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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
Well, I got a feeling. Uh uh.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Steve de Sager's updates tonight are not gonna be very long.
No NBA, no NHL. We're good.
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We're good. We got tollege buckets. That's it. A lot
of college basketball, that's where we're gonna.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Have Division three, you name it, from high school CIF
playoffs all over the place. Yeah, we we're gonna get
deep into it. Fake results from sports TV shows that
are on. Hey, AFC Richmond is tied right now. Well,
I gotta think you know, at some point we can
get back into the prop bets from the celebrity game.
You know, Drew Ski go over under his point total
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or anything like that. Sure, dude, did the general viewing
public know who nine of those people were? I'm gonna
take the under uh and then we go from there.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Yeah. No, it's it's a perfect strategy. It's a perfect strategy.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Well, now we've got the Rising Stars game. They just
had Jeremy Lynn. He had like four tone hair.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
It was great. Yeah, yeah, yeah, say they had Jeremy
strong on. He was Kendall Roy.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
He was still well you're still hiding in the coffee beans,
be carefus.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
But with all of that going on, how about this
for a Friday night hitch between the eyes of something
open on a Friday night, how about this. Yeah, I'm
gonna give you a take that is undisputed, undisputed. You
the only way you're disagreeing with this is if you
just want to make an argument because there because I'm
gonna say it, and you're gonna say, oh no, that
is that is an absolute given, that is an absolute
(01:52):
You're right, can't.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
We had the good Caitlin Clark take about All Star
Weekend and and her power that has gone viral. We
appreciate you all at how about a Prescott Swalling Dome
at Fox Sports Radio?
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Keep that going.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Uh So, yeah, you got something that's undisputed, that's undisputed
generally not very good for sports talk radio and debate.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
But see, but I think it is good because it's
something that you can't disagree with, Like, wait, give me
something I can't disnoun if I say nothing, Like if
I even say, look, this is better than Michael Jordan
is the greatest basketball player BECAU team. People are gonna
find that Jerry Rice is the greatest wide receiver.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
No, people are gonna be upset with that.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Uh, you know, Barry Bond's the greatest home run hitteror no,
not the You can disagree with stuff that seems like
it's it's it's gonna happen, like Joe DiMaggio's hitting Street
never be broken.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
No, someone gonna come around and do it. Oh, Tani
might be able to do it.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
No, this is something that is absolutely there's no one
because you can't because you would say, well, oh no, no,
you're you're right, you're right. You'll think about it for
a second. You'll think about it for a second, all right,
but then we're gonna copt it. Okay, you're right. Are
you ready? You ready for that?
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
This is undisputed, undisputed, disputed, can't can't, can't discrrect can't.
Is that is that a show? I mean, it's a
great title for a show. I should call FS one
and see if they want to buy that from me. Oh,
by the way, you know, just speaking of coming up
with it with the title for a show, do you
know I came up with the title for Beyond the Glory,
that TV show that was on Fox for so long
where they it was kind of behind the music, but
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for uh uh for athletes, And I came up with
it when I came into when I went to meet
with uh the big executive producer about the show, and
I said, we can call it Beyond the Glory. And
I wound up working on another show and they called
it Beyond the Glory, and I'm like, it show, that's
my title. And I never thought about it until after,
like I should have done something to get but all
(03:44):
I would have gotten was a producer credit, even though
it mean you know, producer Jake, because you know they
used my type. But I'm like, I never went up
because I never thought it was worth anything. This is
like the old the guys in the in the the
bands in the seventies and eighties going I didn't know
if we didn't have the name of the band. We're
gonna have trouble selling tickets. I thought they were gonna
come see us. The lead singers got the name of
the band. He sells out everywhere.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
We can't get anybody to come to the art concert. No,
but all I would have that guy off, by the way,
I would have got on with producer credit on it.
But I came up with the title for Beyond the Glory.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Yeah, to show how much resonance it had in my life.
That was the name of that Skip Bayless show, by
the way, showing how much it really permeated my brain.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Anyway, moving on.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Beyond the Glory, No, No, Beyond the Glory was No,
that wasn't Skip Bayless.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
No no, No, I undisputed? Was I was Skip Bayless?
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Why do I forget? I Did it really take you
that long to come up that undisputed?
Speaker 5 (04:36):
Was Ski?
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Really? No? It wasn't a show. It wasn't it it
was it was a show. It was on along it
was on front. Yeah, but that shows how many times.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
I watched it, just coming up with that that one.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Oh, I can't.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
No, no it it took me like four seconds that
I waited to get a pontific eight on your world.
But it was just more the in the in the
because you said I should be the name of a show,
and you know, in my head it was like, well,
I'm sure it was, but and then it's.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
That's why you brought it up, going that's your name.
It wink wink to you know the f s one undisputed.
I thought you were doing you with a wink wow
for a second, you thought I came up with another
incredible idea for the name of.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
No that would have been it would have been great.
I might have watched that one.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
All right, all right, it's undisputed. Came all right, hey,
Jason Smith came up with undisputed. Uh, eight years after
it was.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
But here's the thing. You can relaunch it. It's time
for a reboot. Everything to you again.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Uh, here it is your undisputed. Take undisputed. Take no
fans in the history of sports.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Celebrate championships at the level of Philadelphia Eagles fans and fine,
one can't one. Here's the here's the problem. No problem,
it's no because because here's the problem with it.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
We don't live in the alternate universe like the Marvel
You know, Earth whatever ninety eighty two, where the Mets
or Knicks had won something substantive, because remember when the
Knicks won just a measly playoff series, I thought that
was it.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Go New York. I thought that was the end of
the city.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
In that evening, Guys bouncing up and down on cars,
things are a blaze, all of that stuff that like,
all right, if they actually want something, you know, real,
this could get really bad.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
But we haven't seen that. So it's all theoretical.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Especially okay for this world that not not the non
all the other Marvel Wars.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
This world. Yeah, you're thinking, that's where you had to go.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
That's where you had to go to find a way
to disagree with this take. I had to go to
an entirely fictional world.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
To disagree with you, and you were never actually gonna
see it.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
So I at least give you that moment of positivity.
Let's see what else after after today? Obil socker or anything.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
No, no, no one, no, not Eagles fans I going
flares at each other or anything. I mean, it was
enough the first time around when they had to grease
the poles in downtown Philadelphia because the people were climbing
them and and cars were getting okay. But now today
this was just a different level. I I can't tell
you how much fun it was all day scrolling through
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social media going oh my god, this is real. Someone
did this at the at the parade for the Eagles today.
I mean, and it's it's great. All the player stuff
is great, like Jalen Hurts running up the rocky steps.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
That's awesome. A couple of.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Players who were were helping kids like I saw that
uh Nolan Smith uh put it took a kid from
the from the crowd and put him on his shoulders
and started walking around with him speaking high five people.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Which at point that's really cool.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
The other point, I'm like, if I'm the kid's parents
are going, how far you going with my kid?
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Get? How far are you going?
Speaker 2 (07:59):
I want that Saquon Barkley grabbing the ball boy from
the crowd, sad come come march with us?
Speaker 3 (08:04):
How I mean?
Speaker 2 (08:05):
The player stuff is great, right, but stuff like the
guy who was sitting on the top of the Citizens
Bank Park sign. I don't know how he got up there,
but he's sitting on the top of the Citizens Bank
Park sign. There is no support around him and someone
chucks him a beer and he catches it behind his
head like he doesn't like catch it. He catches it
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behind his head, opens up and starts drinking. I'm like,
this is just this is dangerous and it's and it's crazy,
and I'm going, how did they do this? And it's
like watching magic tricks. I don't understand how this happens.
How Philadelphia is able to pull this stuff off.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Yeah, I mean, look, there were a lot of highs.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
We got a couple of head wounds, right roseman with
the giant gash on his head.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
The GM gets hitting the head with a beer people
because they were throwing beer beer cans at players all day,
and one guy got a hogy thrown to him.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
They threw him a hogy. Oh hey here, you won't
catch this and have this.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
I know you're getting beer, but how about a little
turkey and cheese sandwich, little chitter?
Speaker 3 (09:01):
How about little saye? I got it? Wah wah, you're
all good? Right here he go catch Oh he caught it.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
He caught the HOGI I threw him aut I hope
I don't see that on eBay later.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Yeah, that's straight out of Happy Gilmore hitting the uh
the sandwich in the commercial. Right, you know, obviously they're
some serious stuff too. Right, we had a couple of shootings.
I don't want to take it down because obviously I
got what you're saying. There were a lot of there
were a lot of positives, right, so you know one
of those just you know the reality that you know
(09:29):
you do have, uh, the the.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Lunatic fringe and knuckleheads that get in.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
But the guy that was trying to you know, scream
along and sing along the Eagles in the middle of
throwing up like that was another viral video that was
kind of fun. Leave for this city. I bleed for
this good line. It's a good line right there. There's
a guy that his meal per diem. He gets to
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pocket that for the rest of his life, like he
will never have to write off another beer. Takeout me, No, howie,
you're the guy you bled for the city. Just just
take it now. So like if I if I had
any tangential ties to the Eagle, if I played at
any point, I would have been showing up to basking
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that because I would have been getting free stuff and
love man like no other. Hey, you remember me, I
played wide receiver in the late eighties. Good to see it, are.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
You, Kenny Jackson? Yeah, all right, day, thanks, I'm here
for today. I am let's go.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
You and cops doing the gritty. Oh, I'm watching chewing
cigars through thee The cops are doing the gritty, you
know they were.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
One guy was beating up a Kermit doll. And then
I saw one my friend sent me one video. Somebody
had a pig roast and they had the pig and
they had a number fifteen on the pig. I'm like,
oh my good, this is all right, this is now
a little bit. Let's let's check mak far. Yeah, but
let's make sure.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Let's make sure.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
But like the one guy on the top of the
on the top of the street light drinking whiskey or
whatever out of a snifter, Like he's just drinking straight
out of a snifter, like this is in No one
celebrates championships like Eagles.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Nobody in the story of sports. Nobody.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Yeah, those guys by the museum, they're waving the flag.
They climbed up there like there was just all these
little snippets and it was funny because you know, the
the girls this avenue we went and saw the uh,
the Captain America movie. And then afterwards, you know, because
phones are buzzing and whatever they get, they gotta get
on and they like, yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
It's nothing but Eagles stuff on my timeline. I just
started laughing.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
It's like, I don't know if my phone and my
content infected yours or if somehow you guys just got
on board sports sports kick. But they're like, it's nothing
but Eagles parade highlights.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
One after the other. It's like, what the hell? Like sweet,
I mean, so I do clear victory.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
I almost climbed up on top of the the AMC
structure and started waving a flag.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
I one, damn it my super Bowl today.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
I mean I think I think when I saw the
cops doing the gritty, that's when I said, Okay, this
is just this is this is a party that I
want to be at, Like this is this is a
party that you could walk and every five feet see
something where you go, oh you never see that again? Ope, nope,
never see that again. Oh I'm never gonna see that again.
I never see that again, guarantee, guarantee.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
But just I mean the Saquon Barkley one was the
one that that hits you first, but then uh, Jalen
hurts being compared to nine thousand different movie characters and
being put an inserted and photoshop into so many different
historical moments while smoking a cigar and running around with
the super Bowl trophy. Uh, you mentioned the Rocky steps,
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which I mean.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
His love Hurts hoodie is awesome. That was good.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
If I was an Eagles fan, I would I would.
I would have went out and said how much is
that I'm buying it today? Like the love Comma hurts?
Like that's I mean, that's a great hoodie.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Man, that is fantastic.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
I mean that's straight out of to sir with love
Comma hurts, I mean grammatically correct.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Too good for him.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
C J.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Gardner Johnson continuing the the stuff with the Swifties and
Travis Kelsey. We're not going to talk about it on
air because it's we're not in safe harbor to read
his shirt.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
And I know and I know you're also a swifty too,
and you're in a family of Swifties.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
I understand, I understand.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
No, no, no, I mean, look, I I take no
offense to it. I mean, hopefully gets a couple of
sales and they do some good with the money.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Uh so that was good. I mean, but you are
a swifty I know you're a swift Oh.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
No, I'm in I you know, she's she's she's gotten
plenty of my my ear time.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
And uh you went to ire money to go. We
did her, We did. You went to Ireland. That was great.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Bracelets we we we traded bracelets. We made a lot
of friends. We might have found some more people in
a pub that were ready to hang out and be
swifties with us and sing along.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
No, it was great.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
I mean we really had a good time with it.
So yeah, Look CJ. Gardner Johnson though, I mean he's
been known to talk trash and and get in people's heads,
so you know where he could get his extra five
minutes during a parade that was celebrating so many other Look.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Dowid Roseman though man MVP. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
But here's the thing though, when you when that's something
like that, like you know that's like, hey, now that
this is I got free publicity now on this.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
But everybody's gonna say, what a great guy.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
As long as as long as I'm fine, as long
as I had an Eagles doctor come and look at
him and say, Okay, you're good. We'll get your stitched
up at some point. No, no, I'm walking this parade, madam. Okay,
Like everybody's gonna love the guy and your shit. He's
the best GM in sports. He's the best. He's got
three teams of the Super Bowl with different coaching staffs,
different talent, different players at big positions, three times in
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the last six years. Like, how do you do that?
He is the best GM in sports.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
But that's the thing.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
He's been able to cycle all these guys out of
different players. We talked about the defense, eight different starters
than the Super Bowl team of just a couple of
years ago.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
He's like, I can never be replaced. You'll have to
clone me. Cause not only did I have I done
this for the city. Man, look at what we're celebrating here.
I bled for you.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Yeah. I took a can to the head and a
couple of near misses.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Man, when folks started chucking stuff at the buses, you
saw a couple of people duck like, all.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Right, you got you gotta lobb it. It's an underhand
lob what are we doing?
Speaker 4 (15:30):
But I'm still you're throwing it in like a cannon
like it's uh, you know, Aaron Rodgers fire.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
And it really was enjoyable though, seeing the guys catch
these catch these beers thrown to them like easy, like
it's not like hey, they caught, like it's like it's
going They got like they would flick their hands out
at the last second like a lizard when it catches
a fly, like it's like, wow, that's a great catch.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
How did you catch that? That's that's really good.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
But I mean, look, I mean, if you had to
ask my favorite part though, I mean, look, I loved
but man, I would love to be part of a
part of a parade and someone throws me a sandwich
like that that.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Really is next level right there, to throw you a sandwich.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Everybody else you get a beer, right you're going from
the thirty packs and just kind of chucking them up,
maybe a cigar, and we saw a lot of chomping
of cigars all over the place. And then and then
you got the HOGI you got the Hogy. A couple
other guys that you know, decided to go a little
stronger than beers. Uh, and certainly people on the parade route.
I don't know how how trusting I am of anybody
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handing me something off the parade route.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
That's just me. That's fine, I'll eat it.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
But but also just hey, here's here's an open bottle
of something.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
I'm out, I'm out. Yeah, I'm with you. I'm with you.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Although if I hadn't seen people actually do it at
Fox Sports Radio, I would say it's a little weird.
But no seen people do that. Hey, where does this
food come from? I don't know, and people just start
eating it. Where does this food come from?
Speaker 3 (16:56):
In the car?
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Radio?
Speaker 4 (16:57):
People's gonna start eating it. It's gonna start just a
radio people. It It's that that area in the kitchen.
It's the old law of building salvage. If it's not
chained down, it's free.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
No one parties like the Eagles undisputed. Undisputed Eagles fans
are unrivaled in that exit.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Two minutes though, of the hype, you know, the hypothetical.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
You had to go alternate I mean, if you had
to go alternate Earth, I could tell that's how far
you had to go for that week.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
You find someone that put up uh, the Vancouver connuction
and destruction.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Okay, that was that was not about. That was not
celebration that was a little okay, okay, okay, exit out
about a Fresca exit swollen dome.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
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Speaker 3 (19:25):
Happy? All Star Weekend?
Speaker 5 (19:27):
Wow, I's tone lop intro. I've arrived you.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Well look you know, I mean longtime front of the
show you are. If you just tell us what song
you wants your walk up music, We'll play it for
you every time.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
I'm gonna ponder that. I'm gonna think about what is
the most appropriate song. But hey, Valentine's Day Friday night,
Valentine's Day lands on a Friday night. What could be
better than talking to Jason Smith and his best friend
Mike Harmon. I mean, it doesn't it doesn't get much
more romantic than that.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Well, I figured it'd be.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
It'd give you a nice break from going through when
Anthony Davis is going to play again for the Mavericks.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
So I thought, you know, this might be a nice
break for you. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
Now, all jokes aside it is there is not much
joking in the city where I reside, of Dallas, Texas.
It has been an absolute It's been two weeks unlike
any other in my nearly three decades here. And I
mean one of the craziest aspects of the whole thing
is the team has been playing great. I mean, they
(20:32):
are they are. They are three or four bad fable
final seconds against Sacramento on Monday night from taking a
five game winning streak into the All Star right, even
though they have no centers the last two games. They
started Kessler Edwards, a two way contract swingman at center,
and they've managed to beat both Golden State and Miami.
(20:54):
But that is not going to map the pain for
very long because there really isn't much clarity when it
comes to whin they're going to see Anthony Davis And
obviously with the direction they chose, this is a team
that has to win yesterday. And I mean they have
a short window here. Can they win a championship this season?
(21:15):
Next season? Can they stretch that window to three seasons?
But they've got to win one somehow, and they just
have so many injuries this season it's hard to see
how that could happen this June. So yeah, not a jokey,
happy romantic time here in the two one four.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Well here listen, since it is Valentine's Day, I'll give
you something full of sunshine, lollipops and rainbows. Look the
last few nights, yes, and they've beaten good teams, right.
They started the streak by beating the Celtics. They you know,
they beat the Rockets, Like, okay, maybe this can work.
Kyrie looks like he's back saying, hey, I'm happy to
being the number one player on the team again. Ad
gets healthy, But Mark, I keep going back to, you know,
(21:58):
and I get that it's still a shocking But you know,
something we've said on the show since trade was made
is that the MAVs made this trade for a reason.
They didn't wake up one day and just decide we're
trading Luca, Like like, they made this deal.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
For a reason.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
There's lots of stuff that whether you talk about the
relationships both sides had, or you know, is Luca going
to be in shape? You got to give them three
hundred and thirty million dollars the end of this year,
like there was a reason why they traded him. And
you know, I watched it when the Lakers played two
nights ago, and you know, and Luca had a tough
time getting up and down the court, and he said
after the game he's looking forward to a break.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
He's played two games since December. He needs a break.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Like, you know, I remember the Mavericks made the move
for a reason, and maybe things could wind up being okay.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
I could not disagree with you more louder, stronger. I'm
trying to stay cool here. I mean, listen, you know,
this is not the first time I've used this line.
It will not be the last time I use this
line on this show. I don't care. At his worst,
it's supposed unfitted, fittest, is angriest as the referees. Luka
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Doncic at age twenty five never wakes up as anything
lower than the third best player in the world. You
do not trade that player when he's twenty five and
when he has an asked out and the Mavericks to
prove me wrong and to prove the zillions of people
who are questioning this trade, They're not only going to
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have to win a championship themselves in the near term,
I mean they need Luka Doncic to not go on
to greatness in Los Angeles, which I fully expect him
to do. I don't think the Lakers as currently constructed
are a title contender right now. But the Lakers have
a ten year runway that they didn't have three weeks ago.
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Give them, you know, they've already pulled off the seemingly
impossible by getting Luka Doncic. If I'm looking at this
through Lakers goggled, I'm giving them a little bit more
time to figure out the rest. Give me Luka Dantis
and I will figure out the rest. But you know, again,
there are certainly reasons being cited but me agreeing with
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them is a separate matter.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Waiting for the other shoe to drop.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
Of course, the Lakers thirty two and twenty eight and
two their final ten.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Luca plays those couple of games.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
Yeah, they take the loss to the Jazz, but the
Williams trade being rescinded connect comes back. Look, he's gonna
get to play against Lebron and on Sunday. I guess
in this one, we.
Speaker 5 (24:33):
Talk about that. We talk about that for a second.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Yeah, what do you what do you think of all this?
Speaker 4 (24:37):
We've been talking about when All Star in construction and
everything else, but then we watched this mess and trying
to figure out exactly what it means.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
Yeah, look, I wanted to get your guy check on
this because I tweeted this earlier tonight. And you know,
I am a child of the seventies and eighties. In
the eighties, it was a twenty three team NBA. The
All Star rosters were twelve in each conference more years
than I care to admit. Later, there are thirty teams
in the NBA and all Star rosters are still at twelve.
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The NBA does not want to expand all Star rosters
to fourteen and fifteen, which is fine. We can debate.
There are certainly things I wouldn't like about it either.
I mean, it does you know, hilp history or to
stort history a little bit more. If all of a sudden,
fifteen guys can make All Star in each conference every
season compared to twelve. However, the format that they have
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chosen to save the All Star games this, does it
make any sense that on All Stars Sunday the night's
winning team and the Rising Stars competition is playing on
All Stars Sunday? Does that make any sense?
Speaker 1 (25:42):
I would say no.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Yeah, we're theorizing mark the idea of, you know, expand
the rosters, and then maybe if these guys are only
going to play a few minutes each as opposed to
you know, where we're at, where they don't even want
to go that by expanding the roster, Yes, we could
talk about what it means for legacies and whatever else,
but maybe you actually can get guys to buy in
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for shorter durations if they're not gonna have to play,
you know, twenty five minutes in this game. I don't know,
you're just throwing stuff up against the wall to try
to make it all make sense.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
Oh, my my bad, my bad, I hit I hit
the wrong button. That was my faulty.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
You started, you were cursing about Luca, and then you
had to get that out in that age.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
It was your fault, Yeah, I said, I said somewhere
I said some words that don't meet SPC specifications. So
I was trying good that I'm muting myself. I am
not in the camp that says that the All Star
Game has to be this ultra competitive, unforgettable game. Like, seriously,
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how many All Star Games in your lifetime do you
truly remember? I mean, you know, obviously Magic Johnson coming
back in Orlando and playing in that game, and like
I remember in the eighties, like I can still see
Rolando Blackman making those free throws to force overtime, and
then I got to know him in Dallas, and when
I see him to this day, I just love the mouth, compete,
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you know, confidence maybe confidence like he was yelling at
the ball to make it drop. Like there are some
moments that just stick with you. But it's pretty rare.
It's the All Star Game. I mean it's and I
think in the NFL and the NHL they've already figured
this out. The reality is in the modern day, in
twenty twenty five, these guys are in our lives hourly.
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In the NBA, maybe even more, we are so connected
to the superstars. It's not like when we were kids
and the All Star Game would be one of the
few chances you got to see Janna Santetokumpo unless you
lived in Milwaukee. Like these go the minute these guys
do anything, it goes viral in seconds. Any amazing play
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that they make, we see it every single night. So,
I mean, the reality about the All Star Game is
everybody wants to be picked, everybody wants All Star status
on their resume. But All Star Weekend is a convention. Now,
it is a convention. It is a place where the
whole league gathers in the you know, in the middle
of February to celebrate the league and to you know.
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But it's like the game itself. The truth is, I
just I don't think guys want to play in that game,
and I don't know that there's anything that can be
done to change it. You know, hockey going to the
to to this format has worked really well for them.
You know, I guess we need to give this a
chance before writing it off. But like, right away, I'm
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just wondering again, nothing against these first and second year
players who are probably beyond hype, you know, the group
of players that won tonight and now gets to play
on Sunday. But it's like, why are they out there
with the twenty four All Stars? It just it doesn't
make sense to me.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
No, Well, here's the thing is that it will and
if you don't like it, just wait five minutes in
the NBA will have a new idea for next year
because well it's it's it's the they're at the All
All Star Games now are at the stunt casting aspect.
Right the days, the heydays of the All Star Games
that you and I grew up on that we still remember,
whether it was the NBA or.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
Major League Baseball.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
I mean it's gone now, right, that's gone, and all
there all the leagues have to do is how do
we just keep the game going? How do we keep
some kind of interest and keep people and maybe we'll
hit on something over the course of throwing stuff up
against the wall and seeing what sticks. Hey, people like this.
We can go to this format for a little while
and we can at least bring you know, bring a
few more people in. But the heydays of what the
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All Star Game was, it's gone, like they have to
just hey, let's just find the new normal, you know,
and and and see what that's gonna be. And that's
gonna be less people watching, obviously, it's gonna be less
people that really want to play hard in the game,
however you want to phrase it. And and just it's
just a yearly. Let's find a way to keep people
coming in.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
You know. I reference last Hour.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
It's like the bar that has okay, well we have
Ladies Night on Wednesday and fifty cent wings on Thursday,
and then it's two for one on Friday Happy Hour,
always trying to find a way to get people in
because you know, I can't just open the bar and
have people in for all stup because it All Star
weekend isn't isn't quite what it was.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
And I guess the one thing I would say in
the NBA's defense though, is look, since the seventies, it
has been a national sport for the media to ask
what's wrong with the NBA, and no league bears the
run of that more than the NBA. When you want
to criticize all start, we focus on what's wrong with
the NBA All Star Game? Is the Pro Bowl any good?
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But it's to me from my team. Maybe you know,
maybe NFL insiders would would dispute me on this, but
I just feel like there is so much discussion about how,
you know, the state of the NBA All Star Game
or the state of the NBA TV rating. It just
it just seems to me like it's for the last
forty plus years, there is this rush to try to
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say what is wrong with the The NBA needs to
fix ab CD and e. You know what, every pro
sports ly in the world has issues, has things they
need to fix, you know, has flaws. And you know, again,
I think in the grand scheme of things, you know,
the NBA just signed this slew of massive NBA TV contracts.
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They're doing fine. So I mean, you know, we get
worked up about the All Star Game during All Star Weekend,
and this weekend there will be countless takes about why
this is bad, why that is bad, and then you know,
by Tuesday, it will all be.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Forgotten once we get back to the games.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
All that being said, we talked about Luca and potential
impact with the Lakers long term, short term outside of
that move, which one do you think has the greatest
impact the second half of the season and into the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
I mean, there were so many. I don't know that
I can narrow one down, but I half to say
I saw Golden State this week and they lost here
in Dallas, but then they bounced back and beat Houston
last night. A really tough back to back for a
team with so many older players. But I just think
jim I, you know, Jimmy Butler. To me, I am
a huge Jimmy Butler. And obviously the sixth week campaign
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he waged to get himself traded has probably cost him
some fans in some way. We've never seen anyone take
pat Riley on like he did, and you know, maybe
that changed the way some people think about him. But
I just think the guy is ultra competitive. He is
a proven winner, he's a proven playoff performer. And I
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just already since when I was around the Warriors, there's
just they've got some of their swagger back. I mean,
they are still super small, and you know, realistically, do
they have enough size to get out of a Western
conference that is, you know, so dangerous? Probably not. But
I will tell you this, I don't think anybody wants
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to see Golden State with Jimmy there, and they are
going to be a much tougher out than they were.
And like I said, I just think they already have
some of their swagger back because that's the kind of
player he is, and you know, he knows that, you know,
he has something to prove after everything that happened in
Miami this season, and that was that was part of
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the Warriors calculus here. I mean, they looked at as
you know, we're gonna make this trade. But like Jimmy,
Butler is going to come out with a vengeance to
hush the skeptic, hush the naysayers. And I you know,
I think we you know, they've only played four games
with them, but I think we've already seen some evidence
of that. And again I don't I'm not sitting here
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saying the Warriors can win the West, but I think
they are a much more interesting team and not a
team that anybody's going to be super excited to see
in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
He's on Twitter at the Steinline, that is, at the Steinline.
See him on substack as well, Mark stein Mark, Thanks
a bunch, Enjoy whatever we see this.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Weekend for All Star Weekend. We'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
All right, guys, thanks Mark, great stuff to much more
bullish on the Warriors than I've been the Nights.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
But like I said, I like how they're building. I
don't think the Jimmy Butler was for this year more
than it was for Hey, let's get him in. They
sign him for two years past. Here, we're gonna get
another star player to come in and then we're really
gonna make a run the next two years out of this.
So the war I feel like, even if they fall
short this year, No, they started to build around what
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they're gonna do the last couple of years of Steph
being a superstar.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Yeah, I mean a lot of it.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
We're still waiting on the buy out market and what
other chips may fall, right. I mean, we talked about
the Lakers after the Williams trade gets canceled, of whether
they can find another big body, right Jackson Hayes was
gonna fill that role. He got jacked in the face,
so fortunately the All Star break comes a good healing
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time for him at this point, but you know, they
don't have any depth at that position for the Warriors. Intriguing.
You know me, I've always been a big face, coffee
kind of guy. He's a curiosity and he defeated pat
Riley in this scenario.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
But what do they do?
Speaker 4 (35:01):
Can they add another body or two to go through
because they've got a couple of guys playing in the
you know that played tonight in all the the young
youthful games including Get Out and played at Northwestern. Yeah,
things you never thought you'd hear me say. A guy
that played at Northwestern was playing in an All Star activity.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Exit out about a Fresco exit swallen down Jason Smith,
Mike Harmon time out to find out what's trending from
a guy who's been called the Jimmy Butler of Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
It's got a.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Lot of talent, but every couple of years he wants
to fight somebody that works here.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
It's Steve Tasager.
Speaker 6 (35:33):
And we're hairdo that comes out at Media Day? By
the way, it is yes, NBA All Star weekend in
San Francisco. The NHL with no All Star Game this year.
By comparison, this year, the NBA's national TV ratings average.
This is the national TV game so far this season,
down to one point seventy five million viewers per game.
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USA hockey last night one point five five million viewers
for the win against Finland, and for hockey, that's actually
the largest TV audience they've had outside of playoffs for
anything NHL related in over two years. Hockey's Four Nations
faceoff continues in Montreal on Saturday. It'll be US at Canada,
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Saturday night day game, Tomorrow Finland against Sweden, and then
things shift to Boston on Monday. Each team plays three
tournament games in that round robin format. Thursday night game
will be the championship game. NHL is off for almost
two weeks. NBA's off this weekend the Rising Stars games
where tonight team Chris Mullen won it MVP Stefan Castle
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in the final in about eight minutes on the court,
he had twelve points. His club team Chris Mullen won
the semi against team Tim Hardaway Senior with the Bay
Area Flavor Celebrity game was tonight as well. Spurs rookie
Castle will be in the Slam Dunk Contest All Stars
Saturday night, along with two time defending champ Mac McClung
from the g League Three Point Contests will include two
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time defending champ Damian Lillard. Skills Challenge will start things
off tomorrow. The NBA All Star Game is Sunday Night
in San Francisco and that is now a four team
mini tournament. Each team will have eight players, and the
winning team tonight and the Rising Stars advances to be
one of the teams competing on Sunday Night. Carmelo Anthony
and Dwight Howard are finalists for the Basketball Hall of
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Fame as our coaches Mark Few and Billy Donovan college
basketball tonight, So UCLA hold on to win at Indiana
seventy two to seventy and Sunday's Daytona five hundred TV coverage.
We'll start an hour early do the weather forecast there.
The race will begin at two pm Eastern Time on
Fox TV.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve Though The Jason Smith
Ster with Mike Carmen live from thetyreck dot Com studios.
Last night, we had a real hot take about an
NBA story that I know. The reaction we got and
what I got on social media's oh come on, you're crazy. Well,
twenty four hours later, that take looks even better.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
That's next. Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike harmonked He said, ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Fox Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Carmon.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
How about here, we are getting set for.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
NBA All Star Weekend already have the games going on tonight,
and it was last night that the NBA on TNT decided, ay,
we're all taking a break from the games as we
get set for All Star Weekend. And Shaquille O'Neil got
a little extemporaneous when he started talking about how tired
he was after having a race around the set with
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Charles Barkley, which is something that they've been doing the
last few months now. Marshawn Lynch was on the set earlier.
So this is why Shaq referenced Marshawn when he said
this on television last night and the words of.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
Mars Marshall Lynch, I'm tired, America.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
We didn't anywhere, So there're shack dropping an SBO on
the NBA on DND and when we saw it. When
I saw this last night, we talked of this in
the last hour of the show, and I said, you know,
I'm really done.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
With the whole. Hey all, look how awful.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
I feel bad for inside the NBA, who knows if
they're gonna be able to keep going forward. And it's
been a year of just oh, what are we gonna do?
We've had this great show. Yeah, you got a great
show for twenty years. But okay, you want sympathy, you
want sympathy. What's what's your endgame?
Speaker 3 (39:31):
Here? You are?
Speaker 2 (39:32):
We all want to stay at Turner, we all want
to do all these things.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
And here's Shackers in the universe.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Fine, and here's Shack last night saying blanket, we're all
getting fired anyway, right, which is really rich considering what
happened today, which was Shaquille O'Neil agreed to a fifteen
million dollar a year contract to stay with Turner. Now
Turner is going to lease this show out next year
when ESPN and NBC and and streaming service takeover. So
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they're all staying together. They're all staying together. They all
got paid, they all got money. So all of this, oh, hey,
this is awful. Feel bad for us for off. They
all got paid to stay so In the end, all
of this was a negotiation. All of them feel bad
for us, feel awful. I want to know, did you
save everybody else's jobs you were all up about. Did
you say because it was all about family, right, it's
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all about family and family and Turner and staying together.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
Did all everybody's job get saved? Or did you guys
all get paid?
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Like, because that's what it seems like right now, is that,
Oh we want we want them to wear a family.
We all want to stay together. All these things feel
bad for us. They moaned and they self pitied, and
they all got what they wanted.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
Right.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
They're all getting paid a lot of money to stay
and continue to do the show, which is great, right,
it's awesome. These guys are talented. I can't say they
work hard, but they work well on camera, Like Barkley's
the first guy in side, don't really worked very hard,
but they work well on camera. They're fun, they're knowledgeable,
they just get it. It's a great show. But boy,
they asked us to really feel sorry for them for
the last year, like it was the end of Western civilization.
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And in the end, oh, everybody's getting paid. And last night,
Shack is like we're getting fired. They all hate us, Ernie,
Oh no today, Oh fifteen million dollars a year contract?
Speaker 3 (41:10):
Like what the hell? Man? I mean?
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Was was this all just a negotiation? I mean it
was the whole thing. Did you just try to pull
the wool over our eyes for the better part of
the last year, just wanted us to feel bad for you?
Speaker 3 (41:21):
So oh hey, oh and we all got money as
a result of it.
Speaker 4 (41:23):
Yeah, I mean, look, we take some content, and Shaq
gave us some last night, and and certainly over the
years some hot take nonsense or reactions that had been
you know, part of become part of the lexicon and
part of the history as much as the games at
times with that crew. And that's great, so good they
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offer into our sports world and consciousness. But you know,
they didn't solve it anything. I'd be curious to see
how much of the staff now gets run between NBC, Amazon,
ESPN and whoever else has a piece of the pie.
Are those folks working all over the place. How many
of them still got lost in the process to your point, Yeah,
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I mean that was the question. Because Barkley started doing
the thing, I kept waiting for a couple of violinists
to start playing behind him, you know, and I feel
like we all got played. Donate now, Yeah, I feel
like everybody got played. Hey, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're
gonna couch this under the look what's going on? And
we're worried for everybody. And in the end, it's all, Hey,
I got paid, I got paid.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
I got paid, I got paid, Barkley got paid, Shot
got pay, everybody got paid.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
Everyone.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
We're gonna do the show. Oh, everything's fine again. So
tell me, tell me, tell me you save people's jobs.
And I'll say, hey, awesome, awesome job you saved. You
save the hundreds of of hundreds of jobs. Awesome that
that's great. But did you or did you all just
get paid? Now everybody else has to look for new gigs,
like really, like what'd you do? Exit out bout a
Fresco exit swallendum coming up next. Hey, you want a
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solution to fix NBA All Star weekend? Maybe we have
it and it's not about the weekend.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
Fox