Best of the Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon

Jason Smith and Mike Harmon debate if the Lakers are bad or bored right now. Jason officially puts St. John's on his 'Never Again' list. Longtime NFL Insider Jason La Canfora drops by the show. USC star JuJu Watkins is carried off the court after suffering an apparent right knee injury! And Jason already misses Danny Hurley!

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let me just say this right away. Yeah, my bracket
is done and Saint John's is on my never again list.
Never again am I picking them to do anything, folks.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
No, where you fell all the way off the leaderboard,
never doesn't even appear, never again, never, never again. No,
I'm done. I'm done.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
The only reason I know I'm not gonna finish last
is because Alex Tightshirt picked Grand Canyon and Troy in
his national so I'm not gonna finish ahead of him.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
Well, they're gonna play as many games as Saint John's
does from here forward.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
I mean, I I I'm so mad. I'm mad at Patino,
I'm mad at r J. Lewis Man. The months of
equity I put into Saint John's and they just show
up and just throw up on themselves. Now we knew
they weren't great at shooting the basketball deep at all, Like.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
We knew that. But then you don't change your philosophy.
You get guys in fall trouble and they say, out
of hell with it, We're gonna keep chucking from beyond
the arc. We're not gonna make the extra pass. And
that's part of I think why RJ sat the bench
in addition to his three for seventeen as Patino so
passively aggressively, Hey, I'm not gonna give you what you want.

(02:01):
And he was three for seventeen, But I Am not
going to feed into your narrative and bash my kid.
Did I tell you he was three for seventeen? They
so let me down. They let me down and wear
the suit So let me down. You know you didn't
come out and the shoot get a CALIPERI had a
better suit coat on and knew it was over.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Didn't get one white suit day from Patino in the tournament,
not one.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
Not saving it for good? I see, what do I
tell you? Saving it for good? Does you no damn
bit of good? Jason? Yeah? What you got Frost? Who
doesn't feel bad? Oh? This guy right here?

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Why I told you all the second you had them
winning at all, they were screwed.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
I don't even think you put the period at the
end of your sentence. You said they're done.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
I can't, I I really I don't. They had played
so well for so long, and they hit adversity and
and it was like you could see their body language
wasn't great. And a lot of Arkansas players that after
the game was, oh yeah, we could tell we were
kind of getting in their heads a little bit, like
you could tell you Saint John's had. I mean, they
had been cruising right like then. There's and there's something
to be said for when you don't really encounter adversity

(03:08):
for a while, when you finally do, sure it's a
it's a bigger deal. But you think, you know, it's
not like Saint John's undefeated. Look, they finished in the
top five that you know, they won the Big East. Okay,
they lost, you get they lost the game a couple
of weeks before the end of the regular season, but
they they looked like as soon as Arkansas stayed with them,
it was wait, let's go.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
I don't understand. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
It's like when Drago doesn't get why Rocky is still
fighting him in Rockyfo. Come on, man, why come on
that I should have knock this guy out like fifty
times already. And was it was so disappointing. I mean, really,
I'm I'm real, I'm never I'm never gonna pick Saint
John's again.

Speaker 4 (03:41):
Never.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
I just couldn't understand, and never again. They're on my
never again list.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
But you could go through the metrics and we talk
about where they ranked offensively, defensively overall. We we knew
they weren't a great outside shooting squad. But you had
the bigs for Arkansas in foul trouble and I get it.
They're aggressive, they're physical, they've got length, and it's not
an easy entry path, but there was no effort to
drive inside in those final minutes of the game, still

(04:07):
settling for jump shots. Guess what if you're not making them,
they're gonna back off like Caitlin Clark did in that
game last year. Remember, Hey, go ahead, take that shot.
I dare you.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
I am gonna come in last for everybody here at
Fox Sports Radio right then. But if you're gonna in
the host bracket, but I'm gonna least the middle of
but not middle of the pack, man, not towards the bottom.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
Not I make a run late at the end. Not oh,
I was leading for a while.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
If no dead blank and last man d f L
because of Saint John's But that's okay.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
You pushed off the f the guy that shows up.
You are the guy at the poker table that walks
in and you're flashy. Right, you got your Blaine, you
got a giant chain hanging, maybe you got a pinky
ring on the whole nine yard and the first hand
you go all in host host here. You don't watch
college basketball, you're gonna finish higher than that. Yes, well,
there's a lot of them.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Either gonna finish. They're all gonna finish where's Jason. He's
all the way at the bottom. Boy, he's a college
basketball Yeah, he's finished at the bottom because he picked
bleeping Saint John's to win the championship. Never again, and
once you get on my never again unless you never
get off. But here's it, never again, No, never again.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
What was the crypto ad for?

Speaker 1 (05:16):
No, just all the all the great boyhood stuff, all
my great memories of rooting for Saint John's growing up,
you know on Staten Island where the campus is, and
oh my, all.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
The great stuff.

Speaker 5 (05:26):
No.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
Here it is another reminder, Oh Jason, remember your team
suck and they're always gonna disappoint you.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
Ah, there we go. Couldn't even get out of the
second bleeping round of the tournament. Well let me grab
a line from another famous New York native. Good old
days weren't always good. Tomorrow ain't as bad as it seems. Joel.
This was bad. It was bad. No, it's bad. Well,
those final couple of minutes I felt for you. It
was awful. I'm either hosted the great Alley gettis gift

(05:52):
that has become my favorite. A million voices screaming you
know what else is seventy silence? What do you got
the bleeping Lakers, Lakers defense the last couple of days. Oh,
you give me a bailout, Give me a bailout from
Saint John's bulls showed up like they weren't playing in
nineteen ninety six. Oh God, back to back Eastern Conference

(06:12):
Player of the Week Kobe White hair flowing majestically.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
Look, I could bail I could bail out of the
Saint John's go to the let let's bail out the
second Old News.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
Wild card bailout.

Speaker 5 (06:23):
No.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
Uh, Look, obviously a heavy basketball night. We're gonna look
back at what we saw go ahead of the Sweet sixteen.
But the Lakers lose again? Uh to the Magic Yeah,
just a few moments ago. The Lakers another really bad
third quarter, and even though they rallied a little bit
in the fourth quarter, doesn't matter. This is the second
straight game they got their butts kicked.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
Two straight wins for Orlando and that will do it.
One eighteen to one oh six.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
The finals score tonight here at the Kia Center, the
biggest crowd in Kia Center history.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
And yes, there were a lot of Laker fans in
the house tonight, and I hope they all had a
very enjoyable and.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Safe Triple Magic Radio Network. On the callish Strong Disney me,
you're tourism dollar. We're gonna shake you out for every
time we can get you know. Really, this thing about Orlando,
just really quick before we get to the Lakers, is
that when we went there a few years ago, I'm
still upset that we didn't go to what what is
voted as the best McDonald's in the world. It's like

(07:24):
a three story McDonald's with different I'm supposedly a different
menu McDonald and we didn't go.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
I'm like, how do we not go? I'm gonna make
it part of it McDonald's universe, right, But I mean like,
but McDonald's for me, I'm like, how do I not
go there?

Speaker 1 (07:38):
I mean, you going, that's gonna be great. You're the
one having a great time. They're gonna give you free
stuff and all kinds of stuff.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
But like, how do I didn't go? I'm like, that's
the one place I really want to to story one
here I wanted to go. Yeah, but no, but Orlando's
always rite best McDonald's in the world.

Speaker 5 (07:54):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
But here, here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
It's since Frostburg, since you were so nice to let me,
uh cut made on Saint Johns.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
You're off the never again never again? I mean you
aren't alone, though. Let's let's make this clear, right. The
betting odds were still long twenty five to one, so
the betting public and the gamblers did not jump on
board the Saint John's bandwagon. But for media members, you're
not alone. You can lock arms hands across America with
a lot of guys in the media world. Hell, you
got Spike Lee dressed up in Saint John.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
He's wearing he's one of the throwback starter Saint John's
jackets from the eighties. Oh yeah, that starter jacket that's
somewhat fabricated for him.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
You think he's still wearing it he jumped. No, oh no,
he's back in and he's insconstin Nick's gear.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
I guarantee you I can either a get that on
eBay or it's in the Spike Lee Museum worn by
Spike Lee on the sideline of this game.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
I'm sure he does. How about that?

Speaker 1 (08:43):
Yeah, he's got sports museum and all kinds of stuff.
This is what he was wearing when he accosted Reggie Miller.
Reggie Miller scored you know, did nine points in six
seconds of a blanket was uh?

Speaker 3 (08:53):
And the suit Kramer was wearing when he announced that
he and Reggie Miller and Spike going after the watch side. Look.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
I will say this because, honestly, and I don't know why,
but I feel like the opposite when things were going
when things were going well.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
For the Laker.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
But I'm really not that upset about the way the
Lakers have played the last couple of nights, Like tonight
really seem like, like, really it's been a quarter the
last couple of nights, and yeah, tonight was more Hey
is like Lebron and Luca like we're the only guys
on the floor, We're the only ones gonna shoot the ball.

Speaker 5 (09:29):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
But I kind of see the Lakers and I see
a lot of see a lot of lazy passes, see
a lot of lazy switching defensively, and honestly, I think
they're bored. If I said one because the Lakers. The
Lakers got Luca. It was such a big jolt of
adrenaline and they got through it and they saw how
good they were and that was okay, we're ready for
the playoffs. Problem is got to play the last twenty

(09:50):
some odd games of the regular season. Lebron gets hurt,
he comes out, the Lakers stumble a little bit because
you're stumbling without Lebron a bit. Now Lebron's back, They
get pasted by the Bulls, they get pasted by the Magic. Honestly,
I think they're bored because they carry themselves as a
team that doesn't do They're not making the extra pass
and I'm making the extra switch on defense.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
You can just see it's much more of a.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
Lottydah attitude of yeah, we're okay, We're okay. Lebron and
Luca will save us. We're gonna hit shots. Because offensively,
they shouldn't be scoring a hundred points a game. It's ridiculous, right,
they should be scoring one hundred and twenty five hundred
and thirty points a game. Defensively, they were so good,
all of a sudden, they can't get it done against
the Bulls and the Magic. This is not cause for
huge alarm because the Lakers just look bored, and that's

(10:35):
something that can be fixed. That's something that you deal
with in the ups and downs in an eighty two
game season, especially when you're a Laker team that has
been ready for the playoffs now for the better part
of the last month, but you still have more games
to play. It's the dog days of August. I don't
see this as being that big.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Is it embarrassing, Yeah, but we've seen the Lakers. We've
seen them when when they play games against teams that
they should beat, they wind up coming up small.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
It happens.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
The good news part of this is that when they
play the better teams, you see how well they play.
The playoffs will be fine. I don't see this as
something that's a big red alarm concern flop. I am
absolutely fine with this, and I'm not saying this just
to get JJ Reddick to be happy.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
I don't care if he.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Hates say I'm the one, JJ red I'm I'm the
one that's spurred you all of a sudden.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
I'm Stephen A. Smith. I'm afraid to say something bad
about Lebron. Oh, Lebron and Brody, you're both so good
and both going in the Hall of Fame together. Johnny
in while he's still playing, and Lebron will get They
won't waive the period for Lebron, but they will go
in the same time. They'll be on the same plaque
the same time.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
I want to say that, but look, I get the
ring if the Lakers win, because we know JJ Reddick
listens to the show and he hates me. But that's okay.
But really, I'm not worried about the Lakers right this year.
I'm not worried now the Bulls.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
With the pace they play, it's been fun to watch
as they they made the shuffle at the trade deadline
and suddenly you're seeing some of the youthfulness. Even Josh Giddy.
He's got his issues off the court. We know, all
those accusations and all, but playing really well of late
and then getting up and down the courts. So some

(12:02):
of that I'm curious and I want to give a
little bit of props. Go back to that game. Bronni
had his seventeen against the Bucks. They lost by fewer
points in that game than Lebron and Luca did in
their return to the court against the Bulls. So good
on you, Bronni, Good on your Bronnie.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
Wait, I love how people treated that game like Bronni
went for fifty, right, like he scored He scored seventeen
in a game that the Lakers got beat by twenty
five and suddenly.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
It's oh, look, how good R mean? Come on, man,
come on twenty nine point burial. He was minus thirty six,
but that's okay, he scored seventeen. But I do like
that he was bested when the old Man came out
of hibernation after taking those six games off and they
got dusted by the bulls. Now, yes, my south Side
Chicago roots and the fact that I am wearing a

(12:52):
white Sox hat kind of show the colors there. But
I just thought that was delicious theater to watch them
get run around. So if the there was legit an
injury there, you know when we saw it, you know,
when his kid had his state championship and all that stuff.
You know, you can debate how quote injured Lebron was,
but these first two games back don't really give you

(13:14):
a whole the boost of confidence that they effort, like,
maybe they're bored. They didn't pay together long enough to
be bored. Supporting cast hasn't played well enough long enough
to be quote they did it for a Jay Reddick
has done this for four months, and most of it
he was just mad at you.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
They did it for a month. Hey, we everything moves
at warp speed. Now in the world, right, a month
is like two seasons. Now, Oh, we got it, we
got we had that great ten game stretch, the All
Star break.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
We're done.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
There was no assimilation period. Luca came in right away.
He and Lebron had chemistry, right, I don't have to
worry about it and work. It's not like the Knicks
where something's we didn't know what to do. If Jalen
Brunson's not on the floor, No, they're fine, like they're bored.
They're bored, and and every everything will be fine. If
this is the biggest problem in Lake have as all.
We don't show up in games against Orlando. Yeah, I
get it.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
They're board, they want they're ready for the playoffs to start.
They can see it. It's fine. Is this your way
to like beg for box of lads? Absolutely show up here?
No no, no, no, no, no no no.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
Because the thing is if they lose, JJ Reddick would
get more upset at me. So it's okay, would be
more you'd.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
Be more mad.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
In fact, JJ redd is going to be more mad
at me because I know in his post game he's
probably ripping the Lakers a new one and then to
turn on the radio and hear me say.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
Everything is fine. Everything, don't worry about it talking about
defense rotation. It's all fine. Bench productivity and you're rose
colored glasses. Everything is fine, man, Everything is fine. Just
twist that night. But by the way, I think everything
just to punctuate the step and anything. He was reminded

(14:46):
that lebron fans vote.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
To maybe'll be titled his next book and one's one
fifteen banner night at the United Center.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
Hang it up.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
They're sewing it right now, they're getting it. May let's
get ready. We gotta we gotta have something to bring
people there.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
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Oh yeah, Lucas still can't shoot. We'll get to Luca.

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right now. They led their game here against Mississippi State
eleven to zering it is thirteen to two. However, Juju
Watkins was just carried off the floor after what looks
like a right knee injury. She went down on the court.

(17:55):
She was looked at for a couple of minutes. They
didn't even try to stand around up. She was carried
off the floor with trainers and help her supporting her
under her legs, and it was not a good scene.
She looked like she was in a lot of pain.
You could see the grimace on her face. Again, looked
like it was a knee injury to her right knee.

(18:17):
Had to be carried off the floor. She was ushered
off really quickly. The game is in commercial right now.
We'll keep you updated as much as we can on it.
She was coming down on a fast break and just
crumpled and the pain you could see her and right
away had her hands on her face. She is yelling
this was gonna wind up being what looked like was

(18:39):
going to be a breakaway layup. She had two defenders
that she was trying to split, but it looked like
she just fell again. We're looking for a big video
of this and a replay as it comes in. We
will continue to keep you posted on this. We've not
seen any big angles on it right now, although we're
just seeing the replay now and it looks like her
right knee just kind of buckles and she grabs it

(19:01):
right away. Here's the best player in college basketball coming
down making making a plant. You can see the grimace
as she falls. It's almost like her knee just gave out.
And this is what we're seeing right now. Again, we'll
have more on this in a few minutes.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
Steve J. Saga, We'll have more again.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Juju Watkins carried off the floor just a few moments
ago in USC's game against Mississippi State. Again, more in
this in a few minutes. But joining us now in
the hot line. We had a big day in the NFL.
One player is announcing himself as the number one overall pick.
Cam Ward's pro day was pretty good, even had a
little bit of trash talk for the Titans representatives.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
Who are there? Is he going number one overall? With
us now in the hot line?

Speaker 1 (19:42):
Longtime NFL insider Odyssey Washington Post one O five to
seven the fan in Baltimore, it is Jason Lock and
fora Jay, what's.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
Happening, Bud?

Speaker 5 (19:50):
What's going on? Gentlemen?

Speaker 4 (19:52):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (19:52):
So cam Ward does the whole Hey, I'm gonna roll
to my weak side and throw the ball seventy yards downfield.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
Everybody loves him. Good pro day for cam Ward?

Speaker 1 (20:02):
Is he going number one like, is is this gonna
happen work and the Titans are something crazy happened.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
At number one.

Speaker 5 (20:09):
I mean there's always a possibility, but no, I think
this is looking increasingly like a fad of complete And
you know, they hired Byan Callahan a year ago, a
quarterback guy. They kind of thrust this mister Mayo thing
on him and wanted to make that try to work

(20:30):
for a year. Vis is not an NFL starter, and
maybe down the road will be an NFL starter. But
you know, this team's kind of been in quarterback purgatory
for a while really, since you know, they moved on
from Tannehill and since he you know, started hit a
little bit. So, yeah, they're drafting a quarterback and I
don't think they're going to be getting cute and trading

(20:52):
down and doing I don't think anybody's going to come
up and pay a premium, and I think they want
this quarterback in particular. So sometimes it just is what
it is, and that's what this is looking like.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
And then shortly thereafter we hear Shador Sanders's name called
and he becomes a member of the Giants to hang
out with Jameis Winston.

Speaker 5 (21:14):
You know, I just don't know about that owner, you know,
and he kind of has a certain style of quarterback
and I don't know that he's going to be cool
with this, and if he's not, it's not going to happen.
And so we're still early in the process in terms
of that. These kids are just making their rounds now
and you know, moving into the thirty top thirty visits,

(21:37):
and I'm just not sure about that. Like they've clearly
abstained from drafting quarterbacks. It's kind of become part of
their brand, and they've kind of been stuck in their
sort of own holding patterns in terms of really hitting
the reboot button and falling in love with a kid

(21:59):
and being willing to do it. They should have, you know,
drafted somebody like Penix a year ago. They had again
plenty of opp Kennedy to do things, and they talk
themselves out of it, and I think it goes back
to this owner. And I don't know, man, I'm not
positive that the Browns don't take your door standers. The
Giants certainly could. I just don't know if that's going

(22:23):
to ultimately be a fit. And do they just punt
for another year? Do they take one, you know, at
the top of the second round and you know, try
to get cute that way. I can kind of see
that maybe they do something day two. I just don't
know if that's the fit.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
I think it'll be Eli Manning every week calling Arch
and saying, hey, you know, come come to the Giants.
Why had a great time here, You'll love it here.
The Giants are gonna go. Oh in seventeen this year,
it'll be great. Don't worry.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
The March for Art will be on in New York.

Speaker 5 (22:54):
Well don't. But that's like, that's what they like. I
could totally see that. I mean, you know, they're not
very good at executing the tank and they end up winning,
you know, games that they certainly win at the end
and screw themselves. But Arch Manning, Yeah, like that's that's
the kind of blue blooded thing that that owner could
get completely behind. And even if they don't, you know,

(23:14):
they're not in position automatically the draft him. Would they
move up and move Heaven and Earth for something like that?
You know? I mean people forget the whole Eli Manning
thing was trade too, you know, I mean that was
originally a Philip Rivers kind of swap situation. So yeah,
like what I see, I just don't know if they

(23:35):
and by day I mean him can handle a quarterback.
Who's that brash? Who's to I don't know, man, they
are just such a button up organization and they're so
stuck in their own kakamani bs ways that I don't know, man,
I just don't know that that's going to be the fit.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
Speaking of brash, bowled, outspoken pookin Nakua says, Hey, by thirty,
I'm done. I'm going to do all sorts. It's a
great things coming into year three, and I want to
go out like Aaron Donald on top to where they're
still calling me, I like the cut of his gym.
I got to say, Jason, I mean this game is
not tidting.

Speaker 5 (24:12):
I mean, despite what it, you know what the league
will sell you not getting any safer. I mean, it's
just not It's still a violent collision sport played on
the same grid on that new Rockney and guys and
a lot of helmets played on. The players are bigger,
faster than ever. The field of play has not changed
one iota. A lot of the surfaces they play on
are still not merely as safe as they could be

(24:33):
you know, for natural grass and all that's out of favor.
It's an incredibly brutal sport. And yeah, helmet technology is
nice and this or that, but I can't imagine what
you know, the average fifty five year old former NFL
player feels like a lot of mornings, and these guys
it's an individual decision, and things like this aren't even

(24:56):
uncommon anymore. I mean, we've seen a lot of guys
walk away in what would be deemed that prime then
it's it's a personal decision and good for him, man,
And hopefully these guys can can be smart with the
money and get with the right financial people and be
able to try to turn you know, a seven to
ten year career into something that conceive their family and

(25:19):
the future family members for generations to come.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
Jay, Well, what happens first, who Kannakua retires at thirty
or Aaron Rodgers makes his decision on this season.

Speaker 5 (25:30):
I mean, again, like I was wondering if we can
get through this with I'm talking about, I was starting
to feel I was like telling myself, like it might
actually happen, and then I think this effect.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
I shouldn't have said he's got a no hitter through five.
That's my fault.

Speaker 5 (25:46):
Yeah, this look I again, I mean, are people waiting
for it? I don't know. I think he's he doesn't
understand that like these no one there is no negotiations,
but nobody's upping me, and that there aren't multiple teams
throwing things at him. This is unlike anything he's ever
experienced before. It is take it or leave it. And

(26:06):
maybe he will, maybe he won't. And if he wakes
too long and some of these teams draft somebody or
they trade for Kirk Cousins or whatever, then he might
have even less leverage than he has now. He also
knows that there's not a football game that's going to
be played that matters for a long time. He's a
smart football guy, and there's probably not a whole lot
in playbooks that he doesn't understand or that would take

(26:27):
him a whole long time to pick up. So I
just don't think there's any real rush from anybody. Again,
if you need to tell me, those teams don't have
a quarterback, you need a quarterback, and I would tell
you if they were that serious about him, it would
be it would have happened if anybody really thought he
was absolutely the solution and this has held up over

(26:48):
three million, five million, seven million whatever. Again, if you
really thought he was a true difference maker at that position,
still he wouldn't still be out there.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
I just enjoy that. We're into the psychology of the
you know, which is the greater of two evils, bringing
back Russell Wilson, uh and with Arthur Smith or going
behind door number two and whatever you think of Aaron
Rodgers And then you mentioned Kirk Cousins still sitting down there.
That's got to be a really uncomfortable room eventually. I mean, yeah,
it's the off season now, but Jason, is that a

(27:21):
situation that's tenable?

Speaker 5 (27:24):
Well, I mean, look, Aaron Rodgers didn't spick around from
mandatory mini camp last year, So like, do you really, like,
you know, you think he's gonna be an off season
lawyer where he goes, well, this is true. Really you
think it's going to disrupt him, you know what I mean,
climbing pyramids and I don't know, snorting coconuts or whatever
the hell he does. Like, I don't think it's gonna again.

(27:45):
I don't think he's going to put his other pursuits
on hold to throw himself in mind, body, and soul
at whatever team's paint, especially now there pain and peanuts
compared to what they used to. So I don't I
don't know what's worse, you know, having him show up
when he wants to show up and you know, say
ridiculous stuff and start to poison your locker room. Or

(28:07):
it's better to hold off as long as possible and
break glass only in any case of an emergency. Hi,
I you know, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
Would you rather bring Ryan Tannehill off to scrappy?

Speaker 5 (28:18):
Yes? Absolutely, you got not even non? I mean that's yes,
absolutely positive daily He's on.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
Twitter at Jason lock and four at Jason lock and
four again honesty Washington Post one oh five seven the
fan of Baltimore Jay as always, buddy, Thanks so much man,
we'll talk to.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
You next week. Enjoy my pleasure. Thank you, guys, Jason.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
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thing about Pooka Nakua, just really quick, is that it's great,

(28:58):
you know, saying today I want to retire when i'm third.
It's one thing to say that when you're twenty three,
and because it doesn't seem real right now, it's not
really I can say, oh, yeah, yeah, I want to
do this. That's seven years from now, right, it's great.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
I don't know how I talk. I just I just
take this and.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
Thing like, okay, yeah he says, he says he's gonna
retire in seven years. That's great, and maybe he does,
and maybe it's all vange, but it doesn't even You
can't when you say stuff like that, I go, you
don't really even understand what the world's about right now. Right,
you're twenty three and you I want to retire.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
I wanted to. Okay, I get that.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
But when you're saying I want to do this in
seven years, I must be saying in one hundred years,
I'll be trapped in the lamp with the genie from Aladin.
I'll go get out. Every five thousand, fifteen thousand years.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
Oh I'm out.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
It's fifteen thousand years for seven years, fifteen thousand years.
Like it's it's so abstract. It's not like it's one year.
I'm gonna play one more year and retired. It's a
seventy oh okay.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
But I mean the old standard was that you would
do the where do you see yourself in five years?

Speaker 5 (29:52):
Right?

Speaker 3 (29:53):
That was the old lazy interview question, where do you?
So he just added an extra two. I think you
just kind of get in terms of how how long
are the normal contracts? All right, I want two more
paydays and then I'll be able to walk away. Yeah. Yeah, man,
I think that's kind of what he's maybe going at
from a time. It's like I'll get a three year deal.
I'll get a four year deal first because I'm still

(30:14):
young and relatively healthy, and then I'll have to sign
a three year deal that's a lot of guaranteed money,
but shorter term, and yeah, that then I can go out.

Speaker 5 (30:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
I think he's gonna realize, Oh, I think I could
get one more contract out of it. I think I
might be able to get one more contract out of thirty. Oh,
I think I could make another fifty million dollars. Might
be able to do that.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
Well, look, you could keep doing that and maybe he'll
hold the Rams hostage.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Like Stafford did tell me how to find out what's
trending in the wide world of sports.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
My man, who's been called the Puka Nakua of.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
Fox Sports Radio, really he understood that once he turned thirty,
his career was over.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
It's Steve Disager.

Speaker 6 (30:49):
Might have passed that number. That decision may already have
been made. Unfortunately, we did have potentially an awful injury
in the women's basketball National Tournament tonight for USC. Juju
Watkins averages twenty five points a game. Saturday, in the
first round lopsided win, she appeared to hurt her left
leg maybe knee. She was limping Tonight she was carried

(31:12):
off the court with a right knee injury. She was
in great pain on the court after she went down,
seeming to crumple to the court as if the leg
or knee gave out as she was driving the lane
on a fast break double team. Don't expect to see
Watkins again Tonight's and unfortunately we're not expecting great news

(31:32):
once they do give it. USC for what it's worth,
is leading twenty eight to eight over Mississippi State end
of the first quarter at sc Tonight, Maryland in double
overtime won one eleven to oneh eight against Alabama, forty
five points for Alabama. Sarah Ashley Barker, Maryland was down
seventeen late third quarter. Next up Maryland against one seed

(31:54):
South Carolina in the Sweet sixteen. Man Sweet sixteen starts
Thursday night with Alabama against BYU Florida. Maryland is an
early game on Thursday. Texas has a new basketball coach
on the men's side at Sean Miller from Xavier, taking
over for the fired Rodney Terry. Iowa has hired Drakes
Ben McCollum as head coach. Minnesota's new coach Nico medvid

(32:15):
from Colorado State. He's from Minneapolis, NL.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
The guest of the show We had him on last year,
Nico Meddick. Yeah, he was on the show last year
with US after they won.

Speaker 6 (32:23):
Boy they got hot late season in the Mountain West,
and now he moves on to his home state. UNLV
will reportedly get Josh Passner as head coach. Columbia hired
Florida assistant Kevin Hovdy as head coach. He's a former
Columbia assistant in the past. Virginia introduced new coach Ryan
Odom from VCU and former Sacramento kingsguard Mike Bibbie is

(32:44):
the new coach at Sacramento State. He had coached high
school ball in Arizona in the past. We have two
late games in the NBA that started about a half
an hour ago at Sacramento. It's Celtics thirty one twenty
nine over the King's early second quarter and to man
To Sabonis of Sacramento has returned after a sprained ankle.
Jalen Brown of the Celtics is playing after a bruce knee.

(33:06):
Boston has won five straight. It's the Bucks leading at
the end of one thirty to twenty five at Phoenix
and still going mid third quarter at Denver Bulls leading
the Nuggets eighty five eighty two for Denver. Nikola Jokic
out again for a fifth straight game with the bad ankle.
The team said Jokic should return during this homestand of
THEIRS victories for Dallas and New Orleans, wins for Toronto

(33:28):
and Indiana, which is won five straight. Orlando beat the
Lakers one eighteen to one oh six despite thirty two
points from Luka Doncic and twenty four from Lebron James
in the NHL. Among the four games we have right
now at Dallas, still a two to nothing lead in
the final minutes, Stars over the Minnesota Wild. The Tennessee
Titans signed kicker Joey sli and the Titans attended the

(33:49):
University of Miami's Pro day featuring quarterback cam Ward. Coach
Ken Wisenhunt of Memphis of the UFL is stepping aside
for personal reasons. That Spring League starts this Friday night
on Fox TV.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
Beck to you, Thank you, Steve O.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmon live from the
tyrec dot Com studios. Coming up next will break down
what could be an absolutely devastating injury. The best player
in college basketball just got hurt Juju Watkins her knee injury.
Break it down, give you more details on it as
they come in. That's next right here, Jason and Mike
Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
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the women's tournament taking center stage, and unfortunately a story

(34:51):
center stage that we wish we didn't have to talk about.
Uh USC leads Mississippi State right now in the second
round pretty comfortably thirty five four. They have led pretty
big throughout. However, Juju Watkins, the best player in the country,
left the game earlier in the first half in a
heap after coming down awkwardly on her right leg on

(35:14):
a fast break. We're going to play the sound for you,
and you can hear. You can hear the silence. As
soon as Juju Watkins goes down, the entire arena is
basically understanding that something bad just happened. Here's the Juju
Watkins play. Tied it up, took it away, more great
defense from the Trojans, and Watkins goes down hard and she's.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
Grabbing her right knee quickly, grimacing in pain.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
Silence right away, right away, everybody knew something bad happened,
and ESPN on the call.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
She was yelling and screaming on the floor.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
It was really difficult and it was hard to see
and seeing this replay now, a bunch of times she's
coming down on the brake and there's a defender on
either side of her, and it looks like she's trying
to stop and plant to make her last couple of
steps to the bucket, right, because she gets inside, she
gets inside the lane, this is where I stop and

(36:12):
make my get my two slow steps to go in
for the layup or get a foul, go to the
free throw.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
Dished you a teammate who's on the brake with right exactly? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (36:21):
Or but it looks like she's dribbling. And I don't
want to say it was out of control, but she
was dribbling.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
It looked like she was.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
Trying to dribble past everybody. But she wasn't going to
like sometimes you're dribbling, you know, I'm going to be
past everybody. But it looked like she was moving really fast,
so maybe stopping. Maybe she you know, she could have
slowed down a little bit earlier, knowing, Okay, I'm not
gonna dribble by both of these players. They just have
the they have the lane on me right now, and
she comes down just to stop on her right foot.

(36:49):
And the angle that i'd say, the angle that will
that shows this I don't recommend watching it is the
angle from behind that's the iso of her dribbling down
the floor, or if you're picturing this where she's coming
down the floor and she's dribbling away from you. She
comes down and takes a step and her right knee
just completely dips to the to the left, and it

(37:14):
looks it looks really really bad.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
And it was right for that.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
She hits the ground. She grabs her knee right away
in a lot of pain. Again, we don't know what
the outcome of this is. She's being looked at right now,
but clearly I don't believe she's gonna be coming back
in the game tonight, and who knows what her future is.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
You're starting to think now.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
Usc the NCAA tournament, the WNBA season, she'd be the
number one overall pick and Nate because they start, you know,
forty eight hours after the National Championship game ends, and
all good thoughts for her. She's hanging out with Jayden Daniels,
who was at the game tonight to watch her play again.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
And I mean, this.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
Is just it's it's such a it's such a sad
story because she's so good and she's such hey grabbing
that torch from Caitlin Clark and carrying it through and
USC number one team here and they the only team
to beat UCLA. They beat them twice. And she's had
such an incredible season and she's next. Her and Page
Beckers are next. They're the next two superstars to hit

(38:09):
the WNBA to say Okay, we got it. And now
I'm just hoping she'd get back on the floor. I'm
hoping it's just some kind of it's some kind of kneat,
you know, just just a knee injury where she's able
to take a couple of weeks and then maybe get
back on the floor. But I'll tell you, it looked,
it looked really bad that step and all of a sudden,

(38:31):
her knee just completely buckles all the way to the left,
very unnaturally, and right down in the heap and did
not walk off the floor. She was picked up and
carried off the floor. She was still screaming in pain
and a lot of agony. And again that was about
twenty five minutes ago, and we're you know, obviously waiting
for an update on this.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
But seeing that.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
Angle from behind, I said, oh, you know, you always
want to think maybe maybe maybe maybe it's a little bit.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
Of a hyper extension, you think. But seeing that angle
from behind, I said, oh, man, that's and that's not good.
Well that she's it, watching it live as it transpired,
like from your sideline angle, like, all right, it's an injury.
She goes down, maybe there's enough contact to take her down,
but clearly immediately clutching the knee is like, all right,
there's more to it. And then you get that ISO

(39:16):
shot that you described, that is from the other under
the basket stanchion, which gives you the full run of
her driving up the court and leaves you a bit queasy.
Certainly not repeated viewings of that, and you're not going
to get that angle on the television the way we
do things in twenty twenty five either. I mean, it

(39:38):
took a while before you saw a replay of the
live shot rather than alternate angles. But for Juju Watkins,
to your point, she and Page Becker's a lot of
discussion the last couple of days of you know, why
isn't she getting the run. It's like, no, she is.
She's she's gotten plenty of run. You know, folks need
to calm down on some of that stuff. Plenty of
nil Norse puts literally, we just saw a commercial break

(40:02):
that had two Juju Watkins spots in it. So she's
certainly getting her run and her greatness is recognized. But
you know, the difficult part to all of it is
just how quickly this process works into the next season.
Seems like we've been waiting forever for the WNBA to
come back after that initial run from Clark, Reese and company.

(40:25):
So look camera Brink coming back off a big injury, right,
waiting for her to really become a member of the sparks.
So for Juju Watkins, the great anticipation that you didn't
get these inevitable matchups of the stars to help carry
the women's game again. So best thoughts to her that
you know, it's just that, hey, it gave out, like

(40:46):
her body didn't round one right, and she's been battling
a number of injuries going to the locker room, so
you know, best thoughts for her will keep it up
prized of it.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
Again thirty eight to fourteen. So USC really in no
danger this game against Mississippi State. All thoughts on Juju
Watkins and again, as soon as we have an update,
we'll bring it to you. But she's been in the
locker room now for the better part of the last
half hour. There's been no footage of her. There's been
no update of her. I will keep this is the
biggest story of the night, to keep going on it

(41:17):
throughout the rest of the show. Jason Smith Mike Harmon
Live from the Tirack dot Com Studios. Coming up next,
we have more big stuff out of the end. See
AA tournament from this weekend. Maybe we're talking about the
wrong guy last week being the best coaching college.

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Speaker 1 (43:14):
The update the official update we have on Juju Watkins,
USC superstar, likely the number one pick in the WNBA draft,
best player in college basketball. You've seen her play all
season long. Electrifying player went down in a heap with
what looked to be an extremely serious knee injury in
the first half of number one seed USC's game against

(43:34):
Mississippi State. They've not been in trouble in this game.
USC is still up by twenty in the second half,
but Watkins goes down driving down court on a fast
break and her right knee plants and the knee just
goes completely to one side. It could be an injury
very high up on her knee or the upper part

(43:54):
of her leg. She went down screaming, was taken off
the floor immediately. There was no standing up trying to
get her to put weight on her foot. She was
carried off the floor. We are waiting for an update
and I'm sure we'll talk to Lindsay Gottlieb following the game.
There's still ways to go, the game still in the
middle of the third quarter, but the official update from

(44:14):
USC Juju Watkins with a leg injury. She will not
return of the game tonight. There will be more updates
as the night goes on. So she's being evaluated right
now by Kech Medicine. So that's where we're at right now.
Juju Watkins being evaluated by Kech Medicine, and there will
be an update on her following the game tonight. We
will wait and see and all you know, prayers up

(44:35):
in all our best thoughts out there that Juju Watkins
is okay.

Speaker 3 (44:38):
Yeah, I mean, you talk about a woman who's she's
taking a beating this year. For sure. We've watched plenty
of her games, marveled at some of her performances along
the way. In this one, great expectations that you're going
to get a deep run from USC, and you still
very well might right. One of the things we talked
about in the tournament was the depth at the top right,

(45:00):
not of the field overall, but those first four to
six teams all vying for best number one. I can't
believe we were the fourth number one and so on,
but Juju Watkins being one of those players to watch
and to get celebrated and obviously, you know, anticipating a
huge run as we get towards the next WNBA season.

(45:21):
She gets cut off in her lane. The more you
watch it, right, you have the two defenders to where
you get a bit of contact where she extends her
off arm like hey, get off me, and that's when
the leg buckles. So like a lot of just debate
of you know, that contact and how much that throws
off her gait to then create undue pressure. Like so
now it's all the armchair doctors flying in, but as

(45:44):
of now we have no official work.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
Yeah, you know that's why when I saw the play happen,
and you can watch and go, okay, there's nothing dirty done.
There's no I'm sticking my foot in the way for
you to come down on it. You know, the defenders
are trying to get in and get the ball, and
it's it's almost like Juju Watkins. Sometimes I'm just gonna if.
I'm going if. And you see this with players in
the NFL, where they think they're running away from somebody

(46:09):
and I'm just gonna try to out and they know that,
and they don't know that I can outrun you. And
so instead of cutting back and into the end zone,
I'm going to try to outrun you, and the defender
catches up to them and tackles them at the twenty,
instead of, hey, I cut back, I can get into
the ten and maybe.

Speaker 3 (46:22):
Into the end zone.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
It looked like she was continuing to try to outrun
them and get ahead of them for a layup, and
it got to the point where she realized, Okay, I'm
not going to and I'm a little off balance and
I need to make that step to slow down and
get myself under control. And that was the step where
her knee wound up going the other way. You know that,
you know, they got in her way a little bit

(46:44):
of her length, but she still was able to put
her foot out straight.

Speaker 3 (46:47):
And and it just you know where it was. So
whatever she was.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
Trying to do there to slow down, I would think
at some point looking at this, I mean I don't
I don't know. I'm just going by what I saw,
but I go, wow, at some point you with the
maybe she realized, Okay, I'm not gonna dribble by everybody
and I'm not going to get in the clear for
a lamp, so I need to make that cut more
towards the basket to try to draw contact or a foul.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
And when she tried to do it, maybe it was
a little too late. I mean, I'm just kind of
spitballing here a little bit because until we hear from
her and hear what she was trying to do on
the play, But clearly I'm dribbling. I'm going as fast
as I can, and everybody's going as fast as they can,
and when you try to stop on a dime, that's
when that's when things happen. And that's kind of what
she tried to do. Yeah, now we're watching, I mean,
the emotion that the USC squad is playing with every

(47:33):
possession is like it's the final shot, and hugs and
cheering and backing each other up, and you know, you're
watching just the coming together with their star out pretty
impressive run because you know, we saw how silent the
crowd got in the moment, but you know, give gott

(47:55):
Leave her credit. She got she got them to refocus
for the second half to go out and finish the job.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
Yeah, because you don't know how you're going to react.
And then when you see something like that and here
goes your best player and everything you're thinking of, all
our hopes and dreams are winning the tournament with her
and we may have just seen her play her last
minute with USC. What can we do here? And they've
gone out and they've played terrific. I mean there was
no letdown. There's not even a point where Mississippi State
got close. It's telling hey, they won on a run.

Speaker 3 (48:23):
It was still it was it was thirteen to two
at this point, then it was like twenty one to four,
then it was like twenty seven to eight. I mean,
this has been a they've been holding onto this blowout
for a long time. Again, still ways to go, but
it's not like they've been threatened in this game. No,
Kiki erie Offen is just dominating on the interior and
you know she's ready to throw bows with whomever steps

(48:44):
in her way. In a little bit. I would say
the energy high for USC right now.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
Again, more on this story as it develops. But you know,
we talked about Cali Parry a few minutes ago, and
maybe he's the coach of the Maybe he's coach of
the decade for a year ago now having no players,
zero players, zero scholarship players. When he took over at
Arkansas and they're in the sweet sixteen, they beat Saint Johns.

Speaker 3 (49:06):
He's gonna teach you how to run a startup coach
of the day.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
He should he should he should be how do you start? Hey,
how do you start with no employees? And in a
year we're gonna wind up winning. It's like a movie montage,
Like all of a sudden, Jimmy Chipwood comes back and
there's a movie. There's a montage and suddenly, oh, the
Hickory's in the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
Oh they're great. All of a sudden, they couldn't buy
a win. They couldn't buy a win, and.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
Ali is making free throws, you know, Granny style to
win games. And I am, all of a sudden, just
a movie montage. But Danny Hurley's out. Yeah, And we
watched Yukon lose great game. Uh nearly had enough to
pull it off against Florida yesterday, and you saw everything
with Danny Hurley in a nutshell. The video that got
out of him walking off the floor in the tunnel

(49:47):
as Baylor is going on the floor to play the
next game. You see Danny Hurley say, I hope they
don't blank you like they blanked us. Baylor, good luck, Baylor.
I hope they don't blank you like they blanked us,
talking about the officials. And then we had I'm after, okay,
here's Danny Hurley. Salty Danny Hurley, this is my first
loss in two and a half NCAA tournaments.

Speaker 3 (50:07):
Uh, salty Danny Hurley.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
But then we get this part of Hurley talking about
the emotion of seeing some of those guys on the
floor with him, some of his players, like Alex Caravan
for the last time, you.

Speaker 4 (50:16):
Know, I was in a coach That's why I was
on the hot seat going into twenty three. You got
to ask Dave Bennett. But until these men, you know,
until Alex carab be put on the uniform and the
players change your life and you have such special people.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
So you got both ends of the salty Danny Hurley.
Then you got the emotion. You got this and I
didn't know how I'd feel about him until he was out,
and I thought, oh, man, when Yukon goes out, it's
going to be a breath of fresh air and people
are going to exhale because they're sick of his act.

Speaker 3 (50:56):
They're sick of his I'm the greatest coach. I'm always
yelling in the optic.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
Are bad with Danny Hurley because clearly the camera always
finds him when he's yelling, which is most of the time.

Speaker 5 (51:05):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (51:05):
But here's where isaag when you think I'm gonna zeg.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
I already miss him because and I thought about this, like, going, man,
I really you know, watching the game you actually and
see him, was like, Okay, he's out, and I'm like,
I already missed Danny Hurley. Why college basketball isn't like
it used to be where you had the rock star
coaches or all coaches who were heroes that you watch

(51:29):
for a long time, whether it was Mike Krzyzewski or
Roy Williams or Tom Izzo. Until a few years ago,
Jim Beheim like all these guys that would come and
go far in the tournament, and these guys are the
rock stars, right, And you talked about them, and it
was it was look at what they've been able to do,
how many games were able to win, their level of excellence.
Now me might not have been a fan of their team,

(51:50):
but you understood these guys were great at what they did,
what they said always cut through, and these were rock
star heroes. Those guys are all gone now and college
basketball isn't made up of rock star heroes coaches, whereas
the most high profile guys are all anti heroes. They're
all guys that they're great coaches. But John Caliperi great coach.

(52:12):
But Rick Patino great coach. But I mean you say
Danny Hurley, great coach. But always find a way either
in their past with what's going on at different stops
they have had, or what they're like when they're on camera.
College basketball, that's what they have now is they have
the anti hero coaches, the polarizing ones, and they're the

(52:34):
ones that make the sport great to follow because you're
either rooting for them you're not rooting for them. But
it's always less interesting when they're gone. Right, Like the
Yankees may hate the Yankees, evil imp by Yankees have
a lot of fans, but they got a lot of
people that hate them, but it doesn't matter. When the
playoffs are going on, it's more fun to have the
Yankees in it. These coaches, these really are the three
most high profile guys in college basketball are Hurley and

(52:56):
Patino in Caliperi, and they're all polarized. They all have reason,
and you can love them as coaches all the reasons
you can't stand them as coaches, and so when one
of them goes, it's like, oh, there's a big hole
to be filled here, and now we lost two.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
We lost Hurley and Patino, but you know, so now
it's all well, Cali Perry's got a lot on his shoulders,
but especially Hurley because winning the national title last two years,
building this dynasty that he's had at Yukon, and almost
pulling off a win where clearly he didn't have the
team to do it, and he almost did. I can
even forgive him the well, you know, when he was
making NBA threes, that's what it takes to knock out

(53:29):
a team like ours, Like, oh, dude, come on, and
you didn't have a great team this year. But again,
I realize I kind of missed that kind of swagger
and cockiness and arrogance that pisses me off too, because
it makes the game more fun. The tournament's worse off.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
Today than it was yesterday or over the weekend because
we lost two of those two of those coaches that
make it more fun to watch.

Speaker 3 (53:48):
Yeah. So, while there was never any scandal going back
to coach k the way you would finger wagon get
all you know, high and mighty and sanctimonious. Yeah, he
was on my down list. Yeah, what to the expend
to the extent of, hey, look at cala Perry's programs,
what happened when he left everywhere? But Tino's had problems
that he brought on himself for a long time. Oh, absolutely,

(54:09):
And certainly there's finger wagging in there's hey, the NCAA
is coming to town. No no, But with the NCD
Albila come into town, it was why did they pick
those guys? What did you guys do to draw their
higher what everybody else is skating by? That's always the
question I have whenever you're the team, you're the coach
that gets caught with your hand in the cookie jar?
What did you do to piss off the investigators that

(54:31):
you're getting nailed when other people aren't right, go back
to the football side of things with Reggie Bush. Was
it just because there's an extra common a couple more
zeros on the price of the house or what, because
they certainly paid a heavier price than many others that
got in trouble during those years. But for herly he
hasn't hit his Walter White. Hey, let's embrace the anti

(54:53):
hero phase. For Patino and Califari, it's like all the
stuff they were doing is now legal. It's all figure
out where the money flows. So it's hey, now we're
just picking up like we were talking about with our
Calipari discussion before, right, building a team from scratch is
what he'd been doing for years, so he had twenty
years of a head start over anybody else. So he

(55:14):
and Patino are at the you know now that their
elder statesman in the game, along with Izzo, who his
latest claim to fame was, you know, arguing when they
were playing Iowa, if they're gonna ouse Fran, be careful
what you wish for, they don't spend any money like,
and he started doing his finger wagging things. So you know,
I just don't like that. Don't don't preach at me.

(55:34):
But for Caliperi and for Patino, it's the warm and
fuzzy of Oh, remember when they were the renegades. Now
everything has come back to them, so let's celebrate their
final runs. For Danny Hurley, I think people are just
now really realizing who the guy is, even though he's
been on the radar for a lot of years. And
I don't think he's hit the I like that guy yet.

(55:56):
I'll miss him because he gave us great storylines and
whatever else, but I don't think he's in the warm,
fuzzy Walter White. Hey, let's root for him even though
he's the bad guy phase of his world.