Best of the Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon

Mike Harmon and Dan Beyer (in for Jason) get you all up to date on one of the craziest sports day of the year.  WE react LIVE to one of the craziest finishes to an NBA game you’ll ever see. And Maryland’s head coach Kevin Willard holds a very weird press conference!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Give this you're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
It's the greatest day in sports history, hands down, cannot
be defeated, won't be defeated, White Sox greater than Nets.
I A Harmon.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
Honestly, Mike, think that this puts when we have the
argument of what is the best time of year? Like you,
if you're a Spring fan, if you're if you're a
March sort of vote, this is back pocket ammunition that
September can never pull out and match.

Speaker 4 (00:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
In the end, I mean I still at a wall
the wall football guy from the opening of the pregame
shows through the end of any Hawaii game or however
late we go deep into the night. But it's still
just that I don't know. Opening day, my brother's taunting
me by showing up on the south side of Chicago
to watch what was a glorious victory over the Angels.

(01:19):
I was showing you, Nikki Lopez, there's your trivia answer
for twenty twenty five. Who will be the first position
player to throw a pitch in a twenty twenty five game.
It took game one for the Angels to break that seal.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Things are looking up because there's nowhere else to look
up for the Angels.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
Yeah, we take our victory laps where we can. White Sox.
The over under for wins the lowest in fifty years,
fifty three and a half, Dan Byer. So I'm gonna
find my damn wins wherever I can't. Good, So we're
celebrating here. Well, the other is my brothers were telling
me this as they were walking. They got off the train,
right off the l and they're getting ready to walk

(01:59):
to the ball park. And for the last several years,
rule of law really didn't exist. Right, So we've got
street meat vendors, right, hot dog vendors with their little
carts all over the place.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
Whatever.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
In Chicago, you had guys that were now just pulling
up with the forty gallon coolers full of mini bottles
of booze. And cans of beer and just selling them
that it's the problem and nobody bought, but from a
legality circumstance, right, it's one thing. You're in a tailgate.
I guess there's a free exchange of food, beverage, whatever.
So this was exaggerated. Hey, you just got off a

(02:32):
long arduous l ride. Would you like a little bottle
of teos to take into the ballpark? You know at
six seven like these probably got for three years, probably
made hundreds of thousands of dollars selling booze. Police were
rousting them from their spot today ahead of the opening day.

Speaker 4 (02:49):
Oh that's amazing.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
There is the point where you're like, man, okay, where
do we draw the line here?

Speaker 4 (02:53):
What is it?

Speaker 1 (02:53):
They're not harming anybody. It's just a couple of hot
dogs out there on a grill. What are we really doing?
That's where you draw the line. That is, as much
as as I know, Frostburg is all for it. I
do think that the police of Chicago figured out where
you draw the line.

Speaker 5 (03:07):
But you are watching the White Sox. You do need
several models.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
But that's where they're going to make their money, is
that you're going to come in and drink and a
life well and get some of those milkshakes right, because
that's what they have every year, is the White Sox
unveil some crazy ass milkshake that becomes the thing.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
Last year it was the s'mores.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
This dim it's like a birthday cake kind of thing
for their anniversary and all that. It's it's the fantastic thing.
Now we've had the discussion of street meets. Welcome in.
It's the Jason Smith Show with me Mike Carmon, No
Jason Smith. For the rest of the week. We don't have,
you know, any Mets talk other than they lost, and
we'll hear about, you know, that final grated bat from
Juan Soto at least five times tonight because the Dodgers

(03:49):
were victorious, the White Sox were victorious.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
That's not so much.

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(04:15):
processes of opening a restaurant, food truck, whatever. That is
a long, arduous and costly process. Versus I have a
cart where I can boil some water and have meat.

Speaker 4 (04:27):
On the street.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Sure, with no certifications for food safety, a hanging from
the Sure, this is a beef dog, correct, I get it.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
I get it.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
When you're on a sidewalk as well, it can be
a safety hazard with cars pulling up blocking lanes.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
I get it.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
I trust me, I understand, I understand. And Mike, it
may not be real meat, but those carts do smell
really good.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
They do really well.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
Yeah, there's no question about.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
It's the tough thing, right.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
I appreciate the hustle, you know, me say industrious, you
know kind of side of me of where can we
find an angle? Where can we find a win? And
certainly coming folks half staggering back to their cars or
to the trains after sporting events and concerts has become
a very lucrative business across these United States. So certainly there.

(05:19):
So we have Opening Day Major League Baseball Part two.
So we have that, and now we're looking at the
fun and excitement of the NCAA tournament as we resume
the Sweet sixteen, couple of games already in the books.
If you had chalk moving forward, you're feeling pretty good.
Arizona and Duke just underway. Duke two nothing. Arnie Spanier

(05:42):
has already broken his television.

Speaker 4 (05:44):
This is the the night man. Hey, Duke. I'll tell
you what.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
If there was ever a surprise that we could see
from this weekend, this would be the biggest of them.
If Houston loses to Purdue, which I don't think they're
going to do, but you could say, well, heck produce
playing in their backyard Kentucky and Tennessee Conference rivals, you
know they're gonna play. The other side of the bracket.
Ole Miss is playing some good basketball. I'm not sure

(06:12):
how great things are from Michigan State, but that's a
battle of two similar teams. But if there was craziness
to happen, which we haven't had on this bracket, this
would be the crazy option, and you'd have to think
that Arizona at least can match up with Duke talent wise,
do just maybe the better team and maybe the team
that locks in defensively.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
But boxing one on Cooper flag make your decisions nine
and a half. Arnie Spanier is yelling something far more
or nefarious given that Cooper Flag has already been injured.
So you know, all of those kind of things. As
I take the stink and genius to task here because
he's been bugging me about Arizona Duke all day.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
This well, I'll tell you, Mike, this is the Marquee
that's at the Marquie window. They didn't start with this.
They put it at the top of the hour, It's
on CBS, it has.

Speaker 4 (07:00):
The brand names.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Even with cal Perry and the undercard, you could say
tonight against Texas Tech. It doesn't rise to the level
of these Arizona's not a blue blood, but if you
want to get knocking on the door, they're darn close
to what.

Speaker 4 (07:14):
We've got in the top of college basketball.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
But that's it. We know their history, right, We've seen
a lot of big teams and players come out. Certainly,
you've got mouthpieces like Richard Jefferson out there, Luke Walton
and going down the line, guys that have had some
prominence as coaches, players, broadcasters, et cetera. So you know,
you run with that. I'm just thinking of that team.

(07:38):
Michael Wright and those guys that you had back in
the day for loot.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
Yeah, I'll tell you what what Tommy Lloyd's got going on,
Like there's there is a definite correlation. And it's not
that Mark Few has done a bad job, but Tommy
Lloyd leaves and goes to Arizona and has success and
maybe Gonzaga just isn't the Gonzaga that we had known
for so long. This year really good end of the year.

(08:02):
Unfortunately they ended up losing to Houston for the Bulldogs,
but Tommy Lloyd is a big part of that. And
now going to Arizona as a four seed, beating Oregon
in that crazy game.

Speaker 4 (08:11):
That they had in the second round.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
But I mean, nobody's got Cooper Flag on their roster
in college basketball. But you'd have to think that Arizona,
with their talent and size at least has the ability
to match up.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
Match it up.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
Nine and a half was the number coming into this one.
We'll keep you apprized of that two games. As I
said already in the book, you heard it from the
update from Moncy Belanos at the top of the hour,
Florida taking down Maryland. We need to talk about Maryland
a lot of the quiet parts have been set out
loud for the last couple of weeks from Willard from
the departing ad. Now we'll expect I have to expect

(08:46):
Willard to show up with a Villanova sweater on for
his postgame press conference at this point after all of this.
But they go down eighty seven seventy one pretty limply
in this round with all of that swirling around saw
as they were heading towards the arena that they were
getting booze from some of these the folks in attendance there.

(09:07):
I do my weekly hit in Baltimore, and I'd made
the prediction and they're like, well, wait till some more
of this stuff starts to fester. And then they texted
me to kind of say, hey, give it forty eight hours,
you're gonna have a very different opinion of where the
school is headed. And sure enough, you started getting from
the ad and then Willard decided, Hey, I'm going to

(09:27):
tell you whatever whatever is on my mind in terms
of jobs, and it's always been there, Dan and you
and I chatted a little bit before we came on air,
like all of this stuff, I'm not naive, right, everybody
in the building knows what's going on. Coach is probably
gonna leave a bunch of players at least are dipping
their toes to see if there's not a big check

(09:48):
somewhere else, or more playing time or all of those things.
But it usually stayed hidden until you were defeated and out,
and then we'd have the purge in this new and
new world with the transfer portal, with money flowing, and
with everybody everywhere seemingly a quote journalist. Yeah, and I
call them ernalists anymore a lot. That's my that's my

(10:10):
name for steven A. Well done right here ere in
the one hundred million dollar bag and good autumn. But
that jay for journalism left a long damn time ago.
But we can talk about that a little bit. That
was my best. You know, I'm gonna start getting serious
like steven A.

Speaker 4 (10:24):
But from Maryland.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
If they pulled off a win today, it might have
ranked as a top ten upset in NCAA tournament history,
given all of the cesspool that it's become.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
Yeah, they didn't have they just they didn't have the horses.
They have five really good horses, but outside of that,
it's tough to beat a full Florida team that people
feel that when you're looking at a run to a
Final four, run to a national championship, there's always a
game that may be a hiccup. And we know that
Florida had all they could handle it. More from Yukon
and Danny Hurley. Danny Hurley told you so after the

(10:58):
game last weekend. But it is the fact, Mike, of
when your coach is talking about these things and this
has become a distraction. It may not have been a distraction.
Maryland doesn't have a bench floorid out score their bench
something like twenty eighth to nothing. Tonight out rebounded them
two to one. That is all that could be expected.

(11:18):
It's just the point of it doesn't help when your
coach is doing this stuff. I also have a difficult
time in hearing the messaging and the messaging being something
to the effect that I'm paraphrasing, but I think a
lot of us heard. The sound bite was I can't
believe we couldn't get an extra night in New York
City for Christmas with my team. I would love to

(11:41):
take my family to New York City for Christmas. That
would be amazing. It's also really expensive. Okay, so if
you're and you can take a train even if you want,
whatever the case may be. You sound entitled. It sounds
like it's too much. It's not like a Hey, so on,
those parents couldn't make it to the game because they
couldn't travel, so the school couldn't provided Remember those arguments

(12:04):
years ago, absolutely, and we felt You're like, yeah, this
system stinks. The system didn't stink when you're asking for
nights in New York City, an extra night in New
York City, by the way, to spend with your team
and Christmas, and just like that messaging just rings hollow.
And if that might that may be a bigger nil

(12:24):
transfer portal, whatever deal you want to have in this
arms race, we've gotten college sports. But it's just difficult
to hear a message like that and then feel bad
for a guy and then almost feel like he's holding
his team hostage throughout the week.

Speaker 4 (12:37):
They probably weren't going to beat.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
Florida even and maybe even that's right, but still it
just it didn't Shure didn't help keep him focused this week.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
Well, and everybody's got to answer questions about it, right,
All press availabilities of Hey, what's the messaging from coach?
Sure the players are trying to do their best to
be honest but while also not laying everything out that
they've either heard or been told for that week period.
And you know, all the other stuff is part of
the growing pains, right, I've lamented it on air here

(13:08):
and it's getting better. But you know, Smith being a
Syracuse guy, me being a Northwestern guy like this seemed
like a position as everything changed to be ripe for
the picking for schools like that that have alumni bases
as they are. You got you know, you can just
read the Wikipedia pages. There's moneyed people like everywhere else,

(13:29):
but usually they can get activated to a cause. Well,
they didn't decide to do that right now. You see
Andrew Luck trying to do whatever he is up at Stanford.
First thing, getting rid of the football coach. But it's
all about activating your alumni base to say, hey.

Speaker 4 (13:44):
We need men.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
How many commercials do you hear for the UCLA thing
here in Los Angeles?

Speaker 4 (13:48):
Right?

Speaker 3 (13:48):
The Sons of Westwood or whatever. But like all of
that is behind the scenes stuff, whether it's with the
administration or because if that's the reason you're leading, guess what,
you're gonna find another problem the next place you're gonna
air them out to.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
Yeah, exactly, only we're here three years.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
Like, it's not like you were long, long suffering, trying
to build something long term and just couldn't.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
Get them on board.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
Three years is a very short window of time, but
it's accelerated by the way the game has changed. So
you come off as nothing more than a cry day.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
Yeah, no, you're you're one hundred percent right, and there's
there's there's so many different layers to the comments as well. Listen,
Derek Queen's going to the NBA, so like his his
thoughts on everything on oh my gosh, his coach gonna leave.

Speaker 4 (14:33):
It doesn't matter to him. He knows he's going to
live to the next level.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
But it's also just the point of the conversation of
dealing with throughout the week of maybe there could be
a focus on Florida and Merrily got a.

Speaker 4 (14:43):
Bad draw anyway.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
They were put up in Seattle for the first two rounds,
then they got to play in San Francisco, so they
just stayed out here on the West coast.

Speaker 5 (14:50):
Damn if that guy doesn't travel Colorado State's play.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
It's true, It's very true.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
Is the dress black or blue.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
The question that I then say, though, if I'm a
Marilynd booster, is if I'm hearing Kevin Willard sit there
and complain about all this stuff.

Speaker 4 (15:09):
Why am I willing to open my pocketbook? Please leave?

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Please leave, because you outing us as saying that we're
cheap or there's not funds for it, or the administration
or whoever. Fine, I mean, you put me in a
bad spot because now if I give the money, it's
not even like well received. It feels like it's expected.
Just yeah, it's not a good look at all.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
Difficult moments, but they go down and then we get
some record breaking shooting. We'll break down that because you've
got a scary squad breaking records tonight here as the
Sweet sixteen gets underway at Dan Byron Fox, where you
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Speaker 3 (16:40):
Hey, welcome back in Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show
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sixteen in the NCAA tournament, whether you're still heavily involved,
or maybe you just put on a baseball cap a
jersey and started walking around. I did you check for

(17:24):
stirrups on any of the guys in the hallway.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
Hey, Bursch was decked out.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
He had the opening day Dodgers gold hat and the jersey.
Shay had jersey and hat. Frostburg's got hat.

Speaker 4 (17:38):
I don't. I you've got your white Sox.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
I've got my green white Sox giveaway.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
Haah, very very trendy. There are a lot of guys
that can suit up right now. For the Dodgers, it
just drove down the freeway.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
Yeah, I'm just curious, man, if we did a cup check,
I mean, have we gone full uniform or away?

Speaker 4 (17:56):
It's Opening Day? You got to be in the spirit, right,
I dig it. Except for the Dodgers, it's Game three
that's true home opener.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
But did you see it took? How many people didn't
take to raise that flag?

Speaker 4 (18:06):
What was it like?

Speaker 3 (18:07):
Nine people pulling on that course?

Speaker 5 (18:09):
What did you say, Mike, did you say you wanted
to hear Tony's home run?

Speaker 2 (18:11):
Here's the three two show HiT's this one turns he's carrying.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
There's a kid Otani hold run.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
Tom Hanks must have called it, Magic called it, and
the Dogger fans are looking forward to seeing.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
That for years to come. The league goes to two
Otani second of the season, ESPN on the call five
to four, your final Dodgers close it out a little
threaten the ninth, but able to squash it with a
foul out to Freddie Freeman ending.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
At least the banner was right set up. That's a
good point, Illinois found is half the battle.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
Let's retire a guy his jersey, bring him back. You're
was he there long enough to retire his jersey his
whole other? But I guess you know, Kendall Gill's not
walking through that door.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
You should retire shorts, right if you're only there like
two years for your shortsday. His shorts are hanging in
the rafters. Because he was only here for a hot minute.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
I kind of dig that. All right, We're nearly midway
through the first half, Duke with a seventeen to sixteen
lead on Arizona, Texas Tech Arkansas just underway the other
game from earlier, Dan talking record breaking Alabama one hundred
and thirteen to eighty eight, and the tail of the
tape right an onslaught from three point range, an absolute

(19:36):
barrage from Alabama. Get this overall, just two more made
field goals and two more made free throws like, oh close,
game great? No, they made nineteen more three point shots.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
Most three point attempts in an NCAA tournament game ever
by Alabama, most made threes by a team in a game.
Marks Sears, when he had ten threes, was one shy
of tying Jeff Fryar's all time mark of eleven threes
in an NCAA tournament game. There was a point in
the first half where it was going back and forth,

(20:12):
and I just said to myself, you know, at some
point Alabama's going to just start missing these shots. Maybe
BYU is going to have an advantage. Uh No, I
was completely wrong. They did not miss. They kept shooting
they kept making and kept the Cougars basically at arms
length for the entire second half.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
You can't even say, all right, you got to close
out whatever like this. This is circu shots. This is
anywhere on the court. I mean shooting what forty nine
percent sure three point range twenty five to fifty one.
Let's hear the record breaker. I'm trying to paint the picture.
These people are oooing and on at the dispatch.

Speaker 4 (20:45):
Seers nails of three.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
There's a new NCAA record for three pointers paid by
a team in the tournament, twenty two of them for Alabama.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
The great Scott Graham of Westwood one on the call,
would go ten of sixteen from three point range, made
only one other from inside the arc, finishing eleven of
eighteen for the game. Talk about operational efficiency thirty four
and eight, one of the stories of the college basketball
We're started talking about transfers and impact players. You know

(21:18):
something I sat down and did because you know, you
can't tell the players without a scorecard, but I did
it for the coaches. Kind of looking at ten years,
right and how quickly you turn things over. You've got
nine of these coaches in the Sweet sixteen at their
colleges three years or.

Speaker 4 (21:34):
Fewer more than a half.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
Right, So we know Willard's already leaving, so put the
villain on the tag. We get to restart his start.
But between Kevin young Shire, Willard Golden Calipari in his
first year, yeah right, McCaslin of Texas Tech second year
come to the other side of the bracket, Beards only
in his second year at Ole Miss you got Mark Pope.

Speaker 4 (22:00):
At Kentucky, Dusty Mayes he may and.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
Then then we start getting into the and you got
a fourth year guy and Tommy Lloyd outside of that,
and then you're talking about the grizzled veterans like Painter
and Izzo and Pearl that have been there forever. Just
an interesting dichotomy. What we're talking about, the changing face
and players and how the interchangeable parts and hey come
into a new program and for some of these I

(22:25):
joke with Aaron yesterday is you know, and we've talked
about it a little bit. The trading card world where
they've gone in and because of the change of rules,
you can make cards of collegiate players, right. So it
was a top set that came out and I was
sorting the other day, it's like that guy's not at
that school again, Like and I started doing the game,
it's like more than half the guys weren't at school.
And it's not because they're playing in the NBA, just

(22:47):
they've moved.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
There's a graphics circulating as well with the starting fives
of each and it happened last year and it made
its rounds this year. Perdue is the only team to
have all five of their starters start at Purdue start
their playing careers. Duke had I believe four out of
their five starters, and it helps when they're freshmen, So
like that kind of tilts the scales. But to your point,

(23:08):
I think it's interesting because you do have Izzo and
I don't care. Like I know that we've wanted college
basketball to have names, and you and I grew up
with names, but it wasn't like it wasn't about coaches
back when we were still the coaches John Thompson, Jerry Tarkanian,
Dean Smith, Bob Knight. You know, coach k was making

(23:29):
a name for himself, like Denny Krummet at Louisville. Like
that's that's all it.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
Was for me in Chicago, right, Ray Meyer followed by
his kid Joey and go on.

Speaker 4 (23:40):
Down the line.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
Right, those were all those guys, Gene Katy for a
million years.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
Absolutely, Yeah, you know Dale Brown at LSU for like
they we knew the coaches and now Jim Behim at Syracuse,
I'm your first name would have been out of Jason's
mouth to that to that point.

Speaker 4 (23:56):
But there still is that aspect.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
But that was another domino of NIL and transfer portal
is how long do these guys want to stay in
these certain spots. And now you bring up Kevin Willard's
point of like I'm not getting enough from my school.
All right, Now you have coaches wanting to leave because
they're not getting enough from say NIL or from the
school at least in those sort of lines, not that

(24:20):
the coach is getting an anil, but just it's it's such.

Speaker 4 (24:24):
A changing time.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
But I still think, like when you turn on the
TV tomorrow, you're gonna watch Michigan State and you're gonna
want to see is those teams playing And that's still
a draw.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
But a lot of it does go back to mobility
on the coaching side as well. Right, It's we have
that period in the NBA where guys were signing the
two and ones. It feels like where a lot of
coaches are anymore. Right, it's maybe a three year deal,
and even if it says five, you're hoping to keep
them beyond three.

Speaker 4 (24:53):
Sure, and maybe they turn it.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
Around right away if everything goes right, and we talk
about the team's changing conferences, and obviously that that machine
keeps rolling on towards super leagues or whatever super Liga
comes to college buckets or whatever the case may be.
But for coaches, it's just interesting because we still have
some of those names, and I think that's where we
get some of the warm and fuzzy like you and

(25:16):
I talked about a little bit on Sunday, Right, we're
suddenly Cali, Perry and Patino, who were always pointed out
as everything that was kind of wrong in the old
system of there's there's a bunch of stuff under the
surface that you're trying to wait for the other shoe
to drop. But now because they're familiar that we keep
rolling with it.

Speaker 4 (25:35):
Uh uh uh oh, Mike, did your bulls.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
Just bulls just finished off? Have no idea what just happened?
The sequence in the final twenty seconds of this game
absolutely and absolute insanity.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
So the Lakers were up at one point, what like
thirteen points.

Speaker 4 (25:54):
It was like one oh five ninety two or something
like that.

Speaker 5 (25:57):
One of those Reggie Miller moments against the Knicks happened
a couple sequences ago, and then Josh Giddy from the logo.

Speaker 4 (26:04):
For the win.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
So it was one oh five ninety two Lakers with
five twenty seven remaining in the game.

Speaker 5 (26:11):
What a bad loss.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
And down the stretch you get in the final twelve
seconds two free throws from Austin Reeves to put the
Lakers up four. Then you have a Patrick Williams three
point shot, so one fifteen, one thirteen.

Speaker 4 (26:27):
You have a steal off a.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
Lebron James inbound that gets back out to Kobe White
for a three. So now it's one sixteen, one to fifteen.
Austin Reeves comes down and makes a layup just that fast,
three point one seconds remaining, and then Josh Giddy from
the logo and we're talking.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
We're talking right eye moving right to left. So I
don't think you had crossed mid court. We're in sound
proof rooms in soundproof studios, and I heard two screams yeah,
and one of the person doesn't even have a voice
right now, So that's what's even more amazing.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
So are you gonna do the update because that might
have been the last of it right there, that might have.

Speaker 4 (27:06):
Been tapping out Monty after my goodness.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
Yeah, Josh Giddy pulls up from beyond half swords.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Austin Reeves makes the layup to go up. How much
time is on the clockhead reach takes.

Speaker 6 (27:18):
Point one seconds?

Speaker 3 (27:19):
Actually three point one one after.

Speaker 6 (27:21):
He yes, it was a quick layup, not even contested
right on in and then three seconds and.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
He had kind of turned his ankle earlier. The yes,
he did had to be helped off. But wow, season
sweep for your bull balls. Everything's turning up, har.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
Might you might never have it. I mean that the
White Sox are one to oh, the Mets are oh
in one.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
This is the Night of Harman. I am proclaiming it
Knight of Harmon good a box of cards for him
to open so he can pull one of one's.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
You know what, we might dial up the local shop
and see if they're ripping right now.

Speaker 5 (28:00):
You're gonna pull that uh that card from Japan, the
Otani with the guys whatever his name is.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
Oh, that was insane. Yes, the cards have gotta be
worth a million bucks, be worth well actually in the
Japanese market, and might get to that.

Speaker 4 (28:15):
So there you go.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
I don't know, I'm not familiar, but I am intrigued
with Otani, with the guy. What guy, I'll tell you what.
The tea's had me hanging Frostburg. So it worked with
the guy.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
While during their trip to Japan, one of the things
they did have a big tops slash Fanatics installation. Okay,
so while they have Otani there and you've got a
bunch of the Japanese legends, what better way to do
a bunch of promotion by getting them to stand together
sign some cards that will then be reinserted into packs

(28:55):
in later products. And during that trip they also had
a Japanese only like that started to hit the market,
and there was a one of one h O tani
Ichiro card that got pulled which is absolutely glorious, this
gold finish autograph that is already into six figures, and
didding did you figure out who it was? Frostburg?

Speaker 5 (29:15):
No, but I do have that bull's final call.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
We got that turn around. Let's go.

Speaker 4 (29:22):
Six point one, gotta get him in the get it
in the room. Oh time, that's what you do.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
You they don't have a timeout? True, My god, dude,
I don't think it's gonna count. Oh no from yesterday,
blanket right away, Lakers TV on the call. But yeah,

(29:53):
there you go. Everything coming up me for today? What
do we need to do? Could be the best dinner ever?

Speaker 4 (29:59):
Could be?

Speaker 5 (29:59):
I mean, yeah, harmon, we might have to take this
show into a car, plug in a comrades and go
to Vegas.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
Right now, let's go. We do the show.

Speaker 4 (30:09):
It's been done before at Fox Sports Radio, so let's
do it.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
I have no doubt, Yes, Moncey said, I'm in. I
don't need a voice for Vegas.

Speaker 6 (30:15):
That's exactly what I'm ready for marriage.

Speaker 5 (30:18):
I'll get you there for the second half of this
Arkansas game.

Speaker 4 (30:22):
I always tell the story, remember that Chiefs Rams game.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
Remember that that that was, you know, fifty one to
forty or whatever it was. I watched the first quarter
at my father in lawt place in North Hollywood, about
half a mile from Burbank Airport, boarded a flight, went
to Las Vegas, landed, drove out to north Las Vegas
and stopped at a famous Daves and watched the fourth quarter.

Speaker 4 (30:47):
How about that?

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Yeah, that game was so long, but it was so entertaining,
and it gave the NFL network years and years of
programming because if there was never anything on or happening,
they're like, just put that chiefs Rams game on.

Speaker 4 (30:57):
That was awesome. From a couple of years ago, from
the Colorenio, Oh slap that back up.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
All right, I think I found out it wasn't a
it was. There were baseball legends certainly to be had,
but it was the artist, right, Takashi Morikama.

Speaker 4 (31:10):
There you go, h the guy? All right, so that
was the guy. Okay, he's definitely a guy. Oh you
were You had me intrigued, there you go.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
So yeah, they will sign the card because they put
together an insert set that he designed, et cetera. So
there you go. Look for those at your card shop
coming soon enough at Dan Byro on Fox. Where you
find Dan find me over at Swollen Dome. Since we've
got the voice has been re established, maybe awakened by
that crazy ass Finish Bulls Lakers. It's Monsey Belanos. With

(31:44):
everything going on in our sporting universe.

Speaker 6 (31:46):
You know, if I lose my voice, it was totally
worth it.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
Those twelve seconds. Insane, We're insane.

Speaker 6 (31:51):
When Kobe White hit the three, it was insane. And
then when Austin Reeves had the easy layup, I was like, man,
and oh.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
No, did we get a still braun after the failed
inbound back that it was someone else's fault.

Speaker 6 (32:04):
And I'm just kidding.

Speaker 5 (32:04):
I don't know what he did.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
I'm just kidding.

Speaker 5 (32:06):
I just say I question is, how far do you
guys think Stephen Ay flew off his couch in his
tighty white.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
He can't wait for tomorrow, he can't. I'm in his head.
I'm in his head. I forced that bad bad I mean.

Speaker 6 (32:20):
Josh Josh Giddy wins it. He steals the ball, hits
and like you said, Dan, it's beyond the half court
line like he is on the other side. And he
ended with a dribble double twenty five points, fourteen rebounds,
eleven assists.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
Bulls walk it off with that logo.

Speaker 6 (32:34):
Shot one nineteen to one to seventeen against the Lakers.
The Thunder pulled away in the fourth quarter and won
one twenty five to one oh four against the Grizzlies.
That sixty one wins for OKAC, which is a franchise
record port. Nick Gallow their sideline reporter bombarded. They put
a camera over him. They made him hold the camera
as he's interviewing, like you know, they're a.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
Big happy family over there.

Speaker 6 (32:55):
So Nick Gallo literally they put a camera over him
and made him hold it. Right now now in the NBA,
two games going on, Rockets Jazz Houston up eighty five
seventy eight late in the third. Early in the second,
the Kings are on top of the Trailblazers forty.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
To twenty nine.

Speaker 6 (33:08):
We'll check in on those college hoop games you guys
are talking about. Four seed Arizona had the early lead,
but one seed Duke is now on top twenty eight
to twenty five with six minutes to go in the
first half. Cooper Flag seven points so far in the game.
With ten minutes to go in the first half. Ten
seed Arcus Arkansas on top of third seed Texas Tech
eighteen to nine.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
The games had already finished.

Speaker 6 (33:29):
Two seed Alabama moving on in the NCAA Tournament after
cruising past six seed BYU won thirteen to eighty eight.
Mark Sears led the way thirty four points, eight assists,
And you guys were talking about Bama setting the record
for the most threes made in a game with twenty five.
One seed Florida also moving on as a defeat four
seed Maryland eighty seven to seventy one. And it is
Opening Day in Major League Baseball. We've got some games

(33:52):
going on right now. The Cubs have scored against the Diamondbacks.
They're up three to one, bottom of the second inning,
top of the third scoreless's and the Mariners Dodgers as
the Tigers five to four. Show, Hey, Tany hit a
home run? What else is new? Dels got hen Nani
hit a three run homer in the win. The Padres
outscored the Braves seven to four. The Astros top the
Mets three to one. If you're wondering what Juan Soto did,

(34:14):
he had a chance to be the hero and failed.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
He went one for two with the single and a
walk where it Jason Phillies defeated.

Speaker 6 (34:21):
The National seven three and ten innings. Bryce Harper Kyle
Schwarber both homered for the Phillies. The Red Sox had
a five to two win over the Rangers, and the
Marlins walked it off five four against the Pirates, and
of course, the White Sox crushed the Angels eight to one.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
Back to you guys that we all demand restitution because
MLBtv did not work all day. Really, I did not
get to watch my White Sox.

Speaker 4 (34:44):
I'm gonna have the opportunity more.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
I'm still getting text from the ballpark, obviously following a
box score.

Speaker 4 (34:50):
But it's like, come on, man.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
Really smart of the schedule makers. No offense Mike to
put Angels White Sox weekend one. People are going to
show up anyway, right.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
That's what I always argue with the NFL schedule and
every ein Why are you giving me the marquee game.
I've been waiting on it for six months. Give me
Jaguars Titans every day?

Speaker 4 (35:08):
What about subday night? I'm watching it. You're still gonna.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
Launch absolutely, no question about it. Hey, we're here at
the Tirack dot Com. Fox Sports Radio Studios coming up next.
We were talking Vegas a little bit. Dan posited a
question that I think deserves a little bit of a
discussion here. Why Why at Dan Byron Fox where you
find them on Twitter, find me over at Swollen Dome.
We'll do that next here at Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Be sure to catch live editions of the Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
Hey, welcome back in Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show
with me and Mike Carmon. No Jason Tonight. Dan Byer
my partner on the iwaunch Flex podcast. You hear me
here at Fox Sports Radio, including our Sunday show nine
to eleven Pacific. Hanging out watching the NCED DOUBLEA Tournament
and has continues. Duke now a four point lead, thirty
six thirty two, about three minutes left in the first half.

(36:02):
Arkansas and Texas Tech very odd game, Dan, as we
were talking about a little as the Bills got paid
the four to five start from Arkansas beyond the arc,
but then they were one of eleven inside.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
Yeah, Texas Tech shot forty four threes in their opening
run win against their first round win against UNC Wilmington.
But they don't like to play with a lot of pace.
Arkansas doesn't play with a ton of pace either, and
coach Callus known to get his teams to play defense.
But they they won some rock fights against Kansas. They
they could have easily lost the Kansas game if if

(36:36):
Kansas wouldn't have completely collapsed at the end of the game,
and then we saw what happened with Saint John's. But
Arkansas does make you play that way, and Texas Tech
is having trouble. I told you during the break, Alabama
and BYU was a fifty one to forty game at
the half, and that could be the final of Arkansas
and Texas Tech in the in the same night of

(36:56):
the Sweet sixteen. So yeah, it's rock fight between those
two teams. But I'll tell you Duke Arizona living up
to the absolute hype. I'm not saying that I called it, Mike,
because I don't want to call anything in the first
half in a two point game, But if you're a
Duke fan, this this was the game that could kind
of scare you. Now, the final ten minutes is really
where the hay is made, obviously, but you'll also have

(37:19):
to wonder if Arizona's got the fire power to keep up.
But if it's a close game, how does Duke respond,
especially with the young stars.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
That they have always about, you know, can you make
them sweat? Because that's certainly something we haven't seen. Duke
have to do a lot over the course of the year,
a lot of blowouts, a lot of operations shut down
in the final eight ten minutes of games. So when
you're talking about young stars trying to carry you through,
this is not a circumstance. If it is close in
those waning minutes, to see how they respond to what

(37:46):
Shier can get out of.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
Them, it's it's it's gonna be I don't want to
make it sound generic Mike and say it's going to
be interesting. But the more Arizona hangs around now a
tigh game at thirty six apiece at two thirty left, Yeah,
this is gonna be the game of the night.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
You know me, I love chaos. Go back to that
Texas Tech stat line for a moment, five of twenty
two from the field, one of ten from three point range.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
They got a lot of guys that can shoot it
as well. But it's just Mike, they don't necessarily need
to get up and down with you. But Arkansas size
and defensive pressure right now giving them headaches.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
Guys looking for their union cards and the brick layers
right now, forty two percent from the field, that's what
Arkansas limited Tech.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
We'll start to hit a couple of shots. Just how
will Arkansas respond is the question?

Speaker 4 (38:30):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
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Detractor Supply. So, Dan, something you posited earlier today. With
the inevitable expansion of the NBA into Las Vegas, and

(39:14):
we're waiting on what the ballpark eventually looks like in
Major League Baseball, the rush to get there over the
last decade has been incredible, and I know there's a
lot of wide open space to take over. You've got
to deal with the elements some but seemed like we
went from we can never be there, we can never
be there. Okay, boys, the doors open, the water's fine,

(39:37):
come on in.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
It's crazy because I thought, Mike that the NBA, when
Vegas had zero professional teams, that the NBA would be
the first team to the first league to have a
team there.

Speaker 4 (39:48):
Remember they had the All Star Game there. It was
a two thousand and four.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
Yeah, that didn't go particularly well. There was a lot
of extracurriculars that I think the league, and certainly with
David Stern at the Helm at that point, and he
wasn't looking for a speedy return.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
And I give credit to the Golden Knights for developing
what they have done, which I think made it even
that much more of a viable option of being a
team that great success. But also then you have a
following around them. And honestly, the the NBA does need
like a marquee, another marquee team in the Western Conference

(40:23):
outside of the Lakers and Warriors. Like when you're talking marquee,
if if they're not in the finals, maybe, I mean
the Eastern Conference has the Celtics as the Knicks, as
the seventy six ers.

Speaker 4 (40:32):
When your bulls are good.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
They're Hey Kobe is bringing them back.

Speaker 4 (40:37):
Yeah, so there's there's Hey.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
Frosts, He's going to try to kill me in the break.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
But it's just it's I don't know where else you
could go in the US if you were to put
another team.

Speaker 4 (40:50):
But it's just to me, like, why does Vegas now
get everything? Yeah, I mean there's an excitement.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
And Adam Silver addressed in a bit with with Seattle
being part of it. We've talked about Nashville for a
while as that. I mean, that's blown up that area
and certainly the surrounding areas watching real esshae get gobbled
up for sure.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
And with Nashville you can even say, well, Memphis has
a team, maybe that fits. But you know, now with baseball,
like what you know is Portlan gonna get a team
from Major League Baseball? What does Vegas end up getting everything?
I just I don't know. I'm not a fan.

Speaker 3 (41:23):
Because people spun it around a little bit, don't get
their income taxes and you know, there's a lot of
tax breaks to go out to hang out in the desert.

Speaker 4 (41:31):
I get it.

Speaker 3 (41:32):
He's Dan Byer on Mike Carmon here, Fox Sports Radio
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We've got Justin, and we got Mary. With us having
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Speaker 2 (41:41):
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Speaker 3 (41:54):
Welcome back into the tirerac dot Com, Fox Sports Radio
Studios Jason Smith Show with Me, Mike Carmon, Dan Bayer
in Jason Stead this evening. Dan and I see a
lot of each other SDEE, I watch a Flex podcast.
Episodes are up. The mock Draft, we'll have to go
back into the lab and do a new one.

Speaker 4 (42:11):
Since there's so much change.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
You could go and wet your appetite a little bit
of a five round mock draft that we did with
our producer of the podcast, Ian Roddy, And obviously the
Sunday Show nine to eleven West Coast time, noon to
two Eastern watching Duke in Arizona, early second half, seven
point game halftime in your other game with Arkansas thirty

(42:37):
eight thirty one over Texas Tech, John Caliperry getting it
Don Defense playing all the rage but the games that
are being played right now, Dan, are getting pushed to
the side very quickly by the story we already talked
about a little bit tonight that is now like a
flaming dumpster floating down a river.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
It is on fire and on we're pouring the gasoline
it because of the flamingness of it. I do want
to say one quick thing about this Duke Arizona game,
like this is a forty two all game, and then
Duke three pointer flag three pointer at the buzzer, three
point play like that up nine in this contest. It

(43:17):
just happened so quick, just like Kevin Willard's combustible comments.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
My old favorite word spurt ability. Yes, I think we
got that into the lexicon a few years ago. So
that's what we're looking at with this Duke squad. They
come at you fast, all right, Kevin Weiller, we talked
about it earlier. Ad going Willard presumed headed to Villanova.
I want you to listen to this Clinton, Dan, because well,

(43:45):
this is kind of interesting. Being asked in the postgame
presser as Marilyn gets sent home in a resounding loss
and being asked about his future. Here are his comments.

Speaker 7 (43:55):
So I have not even No, I don't know what
I'm doing. I would just be honest with you. I
haven't talked to my agent. I haven't talked to my wife.
I made a promise to this team that I was
gonna just focus on this team, and that's all I've done.
So I haven't talked to anybody. It's right now my

(44:16):
biggest concerns.

Speaker 4 (44:17):
In life right now.

Speaker 7 (44:18):
You know, I don't know who my boss is going
to be. It's the guy that brought me here, who
I really liked and appreciative of him bringing me. The
College Park is not here anymore, and I don't know
who we're going to hire. And that's as in today's
day and age, that worries me a little bit. Just
to be I'm just being honest. My honesty got me

(44:40):
in trouble im as well keep getting me in trouble.
So this is going to be a family decision.

Speaker 4 (44:47):
This is.

Speaker 7 (44:50):
I love College Park, I love I love Maryland, you know,
but there's when you're at this point in your career
and you're looking at things. I have to take everything
into consideration about what's going moving forward.

Speaker 3 (45:04):
So every show this week, I seem to keep coming
back to Billy Joel songs. It's been really kind of
interesting because with the Calipari and Patino matchup, we had
our scenes from an Italian restaurant, low hanging Fruit, take
the joke move on. Yesterday we're talking about turning the
lights back on with the some of the coaches that

(45:24):
we've fallen back in love with, including the aforementioned Calipari,
who we're watching tonight. Patino still the love affair with Izzo, right,
the curmudgeon, elderly statesman, and some of these other guys.
Today it's all about honesty. He used the word honesty repeatedly.
And so it comes down to this for me. Either
we're just waiting for ink to dry on something at

(45:47):
Villanova now he mentioned Damon Evans, who is the ad
who's left for SMU or Villanova after all of this,
has decided to withdraw any of the contract terms they
were looking at. Have told him the pound sand and
now he really doesn't know what he's doing because there's
nobody there to extend his job because he's more or

(46:09):
less said he was leaving right in past interviews, and
nobody in the town, in the city, in the state
of Maryland wants him coming back.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
It is. It is interesting, and I get that. You know,
pride comes before the fall.

Speaker 4 (46:24):
Is that the That's it.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
When he was asked if he regrets anything that he
had said over the last week or so, and he
said no, not at all. I don't believe that. I
believe that he does regret that he said it. I
get it, Mike, but this isn't the NFL. The NFL,
we look at head coaches and gms being paired up
so much. Ads and head coaches in college sports. Yeah,

(46:51):
to some extent, sure, but if Maryland wins at basketball,
the AD is not making a move coming off of
a bid to the Sweet sixteen after a successful season,
you bring a new AD in there. Head by no
means is saying I want to bring in my own guy.
And I think he is trying to use that sort

(47:14):
of situation of being like, well, I don't know who
the AD is, and so it's kind of an unknown.
If you win, and you win, if you're a football
coach or a men's basketball coach, doesn't matter who the
AD is, they're not getting rid of you. And so
I feel that he's using this as an excuse to
leave because he's already got the Villanova job. To your point,

(47:35):
it is he feeling remorseful because they pulled it? I
don't think so, because nobody else is out there. Ryan
Odam's at Virginia, Richard Battino is now at Xavier. All
these jobs are the candidates. The guys who you thought
maybe could take that job, took those jobs because they
knew Kevin Willard was going to Villanova. The only question now,
maybe is who's the next coach at Maryland? Because I

(47:56):
don't think that. I don't think that it's I don't
think I think he's remorseful for any of a contract
being pulled. I think he is remorseful and sounds that way,
even though he doesn't want to verbally admit that. He
wish he didn't say some of the things he said.

Speaker 3 (48:10):
Because you're gonna have to really lay the groundwork at
the next stop, right at Villanova. You're gonna have to
play nice sandbox with everybody and walk on eggshells. You're
not gonna be trying to pull power plays like he
did in all these pressers about their accommodations and the
New York Christmas trip and everything else. I only bring

(48:30):
it up because he seems like a guy who's really
on the edge.

Speaker 4 (48:34):
And I get it.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
You get emotional after a game, but you get a
few minutes before you get in front of a blacrophone,
you've addressed the team. Well, the team already knew this
was all swirling, right, we talked about it earlier. This
is not new, it's final. But that's the only thing,
Like to bring up a potential is that there's already
an acrimonious part to the next job, not necessarily that

(48:55):
they pull it. I go to the extreme because he
I mean, he got shaking and like even though he's
trying to use and kind of put off, I don't
know what I'm doing whatever else, Like, Okay, then what
was the last couple of weeks, right right? What was
all of that about? And now you've got you know,
the AD to your point, you've won generally the AD
no matter who they are, they're going to leave you alone. Yeah,

(49:16):
this is this is it becomes a fight about resources,
but not about your job.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
Yeah, in the NFL, the GM is hired, the coach
is already in place.

Speaker 4 (49:25):
You don't win.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
Guess what GM brings his own guy that we've seen
that we've seen more GM and head coach pairings in
the NFL. It just it doesn't necessarily work like that
in college, and especially it doesn't work when you're one
of the last sixteen teams playing in the NCAA tournament.
Here here's the deal. I like Kevin Willard. Kevin Willard's
been more than a decade at Seaton Hall. When you

(49:47):
see certain coaches bouncing here, there and everywhere and maybe
could have gotten other jobs. He was there for a while,
so I don't think that he was looking to climb
the ladder. I understand the frustrations that he may have,
and I think there are a lot of proud programs
that maybe aren't getting the nil sort of race and
what is this wild West. I just don't know how
you can say the things that you said again, just

(50:09):
to talk to you and me. You and I both
went to Big ten schools, yours more academically prestigious, but
still football players are football players, right, And I would
have done anything to trade my access as a student
or the things that I got access to, to be
an access to what football players back then got to,

(50:32):
Like I would look at wow, jeez, look at they
got the scooter to drive around campus and do this.
They're going here, they're going there. We knew that there
were perks. I think any student would love to live
the life of a college football athlete back then. Now
we've opened the door completely, Mike, where it's just everything
is crazy. Now it's seeping into the coaches, you know,

(50:52):
in terms of what is being provided to the school.
And that's why I just keep going back to the
extra night in New York City for Christmas. Everybody would
love to spend one night in New York City for
Christmas to complain about not getting an extra one, because
that means that it's not a commitment to your program.

Speaker 4 (51:08):
There may be other reasons.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
Maybe the facility link, it's facilities, but there may be
other reasons why your program may be legging behind others
in your conference, but it's not because you couldn't spend
one extra night in New York City. And that just
that's to me is something that I would just be like, man,
that just falls on deaf ears.

Speaker 3 (51:24):
OK, if we're going to go down the road of
complaining about access to whatever, it is, right, because we
had mc cronin right beloved to some for us, he's
just a great sound bite. UCLA. Look there on AM
five to seventy LA Sports or LA affiliate here for
Fox Sports Radio and mc cronan. We watched him throughout
the year, right, fiery at the host, asking in postgame questions. Yeah,

(51:49):
couldn't do that on Mars, right, I mean you had
all these kinds of things. And then he's complaining about
flights and naming, name checking airlines. I'm I gonna do
that to them here, sure, but like all salty, it's
like no, no, no. For USC and UCLA. That's been the
most interesting thing about their arrival to the Big Ten
is complaining about travel like.

Speaker 4 (52:10):
Nobody did the math of where Maryland is located.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
How about getting out to Happy Valley? Good luck? Right,
unless you're getting air dropped in over the top of
the stadium, that's a pain in the ass. But it's
all book baked into the cake of we're joining the
Big ten and this is what it gets us a
huge TV contract. But guess what, our kids are gonna
pay the price to a degree when it comes to
traveling for road games. That's baked in. So then complaining

(52:38):
about it every chance you got during a tournament, and
then Cronin on the way out complaining about the flight.

Speaker 4 (52:44):
It's like, no, complain about other things that are real.

Speaker 3 (52:47):
If we're gonna go in front of a microphone, don't
sound like an idiot complaining about not being able to
see the holiday parade or go ice skating at Rockefeller
Center or this. You didn't like the accommodations on the
flight home because you didn't get a good snack or
a good movie selection.

Speaker 4 (53:05):
Shut up?

Speaker 1 (53:05):
What coach seat on an airplane any airline is like, yeah,
I love this? None, okay, none, right, I mean, but hey,
if it's chartered, guess what nobody else is on it?
Maybe you're not sitting there at gate twenty two B
waiting to board with everybody else, because I don't think
that's what UCLA was doing. And UCLA neither of the

(53:27):
money is university in the Big ten, So surprise, surprise
if they're struggling in the other factors of it. And
that's what I think is a part of this is
there are schools that were maybe making money hand over fish,
but now you get into this wild West game of
treating your players and treating different things, and you can't
necessarily do it. And some coaches are scratching their head
seeing other teams being able to do those things. Yeah,

(53:50):
it's Rich, Mike, It's Rich good Frostburg.

Speaker 4 (53:54):
What do you got.

Speaker 5 (53:55):
Well, he used the word guys. He used the word
like four or five times in that SoundBite. We heard
the word was honest or honestly yep, or I'm being
honest with you. I've watched enough interrogation shows to know
he's lying through his teeth.

Speaker 3 (54:08):
Sure, you can put up.

Speaker 5 (54:11):
The Villanova press conferences tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
Yeah, but it's like watching him under the lights. I mean,
I told you I was been rewatching the old NYPD
Blue episodes. We've been joking about sip the witz and
threatening guys with the needle under the hot spotlight in
an interrogation room forever. But where we're at in college
basketball and mirrors a lot of what we're talking about
in Major League Baseball, in particular as it relates to

(54:35):
the LA Dodgers, right, deferred payments and whatever. All this
is on the books that your teams can do. Your
owner and management group has just decided not to. Now
with the Dodgers, you've got other all stars, You've got
all sorts of amenities. You've got cash considerations for endorsements,
whatever that may be larger than anyplace else but New

(54:56):
York if you believe the two billion dollar more valuation
that put on the Yankees over the Dodgers. But all
of that to say, it's everybody gets the same revenue
coming out of the TV and merchandise deals that are cut.

Speaker 4 (55:11):
Now.

Speaker 3 (55:11):
The ESPN thing is a whole other ball of wax here.
But the idea is you're all getting a giant payment
before any of your local revenues and whatever else. Some
teams choose to reinvest it, some don't. In college sports,
can you activate your alumni base, fan base, get allocation

(55:32):
of resources greater than other commensurate Do you get enough
intel from your recruits and people in the process of
where are we lagging? Because I guarant damn Tee it
wasn't because you didn't get the extra night and do
you York or because you were flying on whatever spirit frontier,
whatever it is. But like there's something else in the equation,

(55:54):
go complain about that. If it's substantive and real enough,
then it becomes a larger rallying point for schools that
may be in the same boat versus these random one offs, and.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
I'll just I'll tell you this. I think that there
are schools that budget and figure out what they will
need for nil and then are quick to realize when
the market opens or when the market is And I
think maybe Willard is somebody else said that the portal
opened on the transfer portal opened on November fifth, the
day after the first game of the season. The reality

(56:28):
is is you think that you have X amount to
play with, Well, it's X plus y because now, all
of a sudden, all these other kids are.

Speaker 4 (56:34):
Asking for more and more and more.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
And so if you're Kevin Willard and you're not getting
enough to even to bring players in, let alone the
whole deal, then you're wondering if you're again bringing a
knife to a gunfight.

Speaker 3 (56:45):
You thought you had a small house repair and suddenly
they've got to raise that whole side of the ex right,
yere goes, Hey, you his there's no insulation here. You
need insolation?

Speaker 4 (56:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (56:56):
Million, Okay, Yeah, we're good for a million. Actually we
need a million point five. We want the guys, we
need