April 25, 2025 • 37 mins
On tonight’s edition of The Best of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon, the guys break down all the drama from the first round of the 2025 NFL Draft, calling out the biggest winners and losers of the night. Hear from Shedeur Sanders after his surprising slide out of the first round, and find out why the Giants come away as big winners, filling two major needs. Don’t miss it—tune in now to The Best of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
This is the best of The Jason Smith Show with
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
Greetings, Happy Thursday, Happy NFL Draft night. Yeah, the Jason
Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon. I'm anna
ask man. True, the first thirty two picks of the
draft are in the books. We'll get to it in
a second, one, two, three, fourday He actually does count
(00:50):
that high. I'm not gonna can't do that toa eighteen.
There you go? Yeah, okay, is he the official counter?
Did you guys use him during the Draft show? But
something first we had talked about all week, maybe for
a week and a half leading up to it, when
we knew it was going to happen. Great NFL Draft
(01:11):
live show. We just had Jenny Taft, Jay Glazer, LeVar Arrington,
and former Jets GM Joe Douglas, who I got to meet.
There will be a video put up on five Sports
Radio Twitter account very soon, and I don't want to
spoil anything, except I will say this. I can no
(01:32):
longer drink the diet coke that I had in my
hand when I walked in. You will see why. You'll
see why. We'll tell you when it goes up being
edited right now. We put together We got to meet
Joe Douglas, got to talk to him, and and and
I'm on the air and everything is fine.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
So it didn't seem like there was great animosity or
at least he hit it well if he had anything,
good beat for you. Very nice man. Great job by
Jenny and LeVar and Jay and Joe. I mean that
was just fantastic listen throughout. Obviously Jay is the information
man of information man, but Jenny running point uh and
(02:08):
seamlessly through the thirty two picks a lot of moving parts,
add the trades right off the jump, chaos. I'm texting you.
It was like, well, it's all happening. It's all happening
just as we thought. Uh, unless it didn't still the
same order just jumbled the insignias a little bit.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Yeah. Look I was I was a little nervous. I
didn't know how it was gonna go it coming in
and okay, and you know here he is former GM
and the Jets and all talk about the Jets. What
are we gonna how's it gonna go? And and I think, well,
I don't, I don't. I don't know that he would
talk to me again. But but maybe that's a you know,
we let the video happ you go.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
I mean we all just kind of a good back,
let you do your thing. Uh, there was no judgment past. Yeah, no,
that's true.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
That's true.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
We're all mired, you know in our own little conversations.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
What did your team do?
Speaker 3 (02:58):
How'd you like my team? How was the drive in?
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (03:01):
What'd you do with your extra hour while you were
listening to draft coverage? Might have laid down and then
your draft coverage? Sure, second screen experience. I made all
those kind of things. But you got to meet Joe Douglas.
I mean, I know it's been an ambition going on
many a year. I have I still have like five
or six questions for him. So sure when we have
(03:23):
a return bout, we won't have any no fanboy things,
journalistic questions.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Listen, listen, the next bab it'll it'll be legit, and
next thing it will be legit. This was hous you
know this is I don't know, it's a It was
kind of like I thought. The the the atmosphere is
kind of like a way in before a box. That's
kind of where I was a little bit thought you
were gonna get hit.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
I mean, well, and I'm playing a lot of conversations
on the side and then tell you guys in the middle, I'll.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Tell you what. Man. I walked in and I'm like, whoa,
Joe Douglas is way bigger than I am. Wow, this
would not even be closed. That was something that stood
out really fast. He was he was sitting in the
in the in the seat right here in the studio
or watching him coming in, and I'm you know, I'll
tell you this. Here's a teaser. I'm wearing a Jets hoodie.
You know. I had to do it for meeting Joe.
(04:11):
Try to come in. I see everybody. Everybody stands up
and Joe stands up and it's one of those when
people stand up and they don't really need to move
their feet because their feet are already on the ground,
and I'm like, oh, wow, wow, he's a big dude. Wow. Okay,
all right, then okay what uh uh okay? And then
I met Joe Douglas.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
See, here's the thing, me being the five foot seven
fire plug of a man that I am.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Everybody's tall.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Yeah, so the extra two inches here there, it doesn't
really matter, right, the difference between a six foot or
and a seven foot You're all tall. I'm looking at yeah,
and I say you are not you, But you know
people six feet are taller that you're. You're all giants
relative to me, So you know that that extra bit.
But I could see the fear in your eyes that
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if things went badly, he had reach and could you
out one.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Hundred yea undred percent, one hundred percent I I mean
I I mean the gun show. It was a little
bit there. You know, you were bit into I like
to think I'm prepared for any circumstance. That was when
when he stood up, I was like, oh, wow, this
is where you're bad.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
First step really could have cost you, really could have
been problem.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Jason Smith Mike Harmon post NFL Draft show here and
what a first round we had we had fireworks early.
But the biggest story, crazily because this is the NFL, right,
as Jay Laser likes to shave that say, the greatest
reality show in the history of the world is the NFL.
And all the conversation is about a guy that didn't
get taken tonight, and that Shador Sanders, who was still
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on the board. Mel Kiper's number one quarterback is still
on the board going into the beginning of the second round.
You decide you had to throw shade at Mel kip No,
because here's the thing. I think he was a big
deal when I felt so bad for Mel because I
told you, I know, I know Mel for a long time.
I haven't talked to in a few years, but when
I was on ESPN, we talked all the time. And
he comes out right away, Chadoor Sanders, my number one
(06:04):
quarterback on the border and he just falls. All the
way through the first round, Chador Sanders and Kuiper's talking
about and other quarterbacks. I'm going, oh, I just I
just feel bad at this point because here's Mel Sander.
Is that No, there's a pic. It's not your door, Nope,
not your door, Nope, not your door. Nope, not your door.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
And then there were you could speak of it with conviction, Jason,
and in the end you may have your evaluation on
a player. That just means thirty two groups of people
disagreed with you.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
If there was thirty three, they might they might have
been with you. Yeah, I mean that's what thirty three
all you need? It was one you needed one more.
Now before we get into the slide. There is no
like if you said to me, hey, what Schadoor Sanders, like, like,
if you can you can encapsulate Chador Sanders in one
ten second clip, I would say to you absolutely what
we saw tonight when ESPN went to their first commercial
(06:53):
break and Chaudor Sanders hadn't been taken yet, right they
they had the first couple pics. We had the big
trade with the Jaguars and the Browns, which will get
to in a few minutes. And you hear Mike Greenberg saying, hey,
coming up and Shadora Sanders, of course, where is he
gonna go? And they cut to his draft party or
the where he's going to be, and it's a wide
shot of a couch that's got two pillows that say
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legendary on them behind him in all different kinds of
script and font are all words describing Shador Sanders and
says legendary. It says perfect timing everywhere, which I think
is a really great troll job. Right, he doesn't play
on time.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
That was a big thing, Manah, the unnamed coach said yesterday,
Sor Sanders doesn't play on time, and he's got perfect
timing and money signs everywhere, all of this and huge
font behind the couch and he's not in the camera.
Nobody is on camera. It's an empty shot of the
couch that is Shadoor Sanders. That is so on brand
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that I can't I can't even tell you. It's absolute perfection.
This is a guy who is so full is so
he's full of himself, He's full of what he can do.
He is full of confidence. He has it all going on, right,
all of this. And then at the same time, now
I'm not gonna be on camera because you don't need
(08:10):
to see me on camera because I call the shots. Meanwhile,
maybe it's about you're not going to see me on
camera the entire night free falling through the first round
of the draft. But that is so on brand. Here's
how I feel about my own abilities and how my
team feels about my abilities. And then when they take
the shot, the wide shot, there's nobody in it like
whether that was by design, But that I said, that
is that is Shador Sanders. That encapsulates him to a
(08:33):
t What does it mean to be him that right there? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (08:35):
I mean you saw the tweet that was put up
before the draft, I mean I sent the thing to
you and our guy Justin Frossberg, who is producing the draft,
show all the kind of novelty prop bets that had
been out there, one of which Shador Sanders had allegedly
changed his phone number, So there was a prop bet
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of whether teams couldn't.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Get a hoe.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yeah, yeah, because he changed his phone. Like that's how
absurd things got. And then he had that little rubber
room with as you described it, with all of those
kind of like something out of Jared Leto's joker, Right,
I'm telling tell me that wasn't exactly right there that
you couldn't have seen his ass sitting on that throne
right there. So all of that and a lot of
build up, and even when the Giants traded up to
(09:20):
get Jackson Dart there was the shot back to the
spot is the sador Sanders.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Hey, So I'll take being right about that. The Giants
were going to trade back into the first round for quarterback.
It was a different quarterback, but I said twenty five
to thirty. They said there was gonna be one, and
there it was. It's gonna be an insider. But I
will say this to be to be to be serious
and take this to it to a point. I am
absolutely shocked. I really I am, And this is you
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and I have been doing this for a long time.
We've been in sports for a long time. There are
stunning stories. There are stories that shock you. But as
you do this for a while, stuff becomes less shocking.
Then it becomes more whoa jarring for a few minutes,
and then you understand right, just because you do this
for a long time. I am shocked that he fell
all the way through the first round. I am stunned
(10:05):
that he did not get taken. That the fall didn't
stop at nine, didn't stop somewhere at fifteen with someone
trading up, didn't stop with the Steelers twenty one, didn't
stop with anybody coming back into the first round to
get him I am stunned that this is a guy
that is that good. How whatever you feel about him?
Oh maybe he's not. Is he not one of the
top two picks? Okay, But now it's like someone's gonna
(10:27):
get an absolute bargain with Shadoor Sanders early in the
second round. Maybe now it's the Browns. We're gonna say, hey,
look at us, man, we're winning. Did we made the
big trade? We got this, We're gonna get our quarterback?
Like Shador Sanders is really good. And I know that
people get caught up in minutia and teams were afraid
to pick him. You get turned off by whatever happens
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in the interviews. You look at tape, you wonder how
good he really is. When a quarterback's gotta be a
gut feel and we've watched him all the things we've
said about him for the past couple of years. He's tough,
he delivers the ball, he's got confidence. There's a stuff
you don't like. I understand. So maybe that prevents you
from going number one and number two, But to prevent
you from going in the first round, yeah, I think
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it's personal a little bit. And I you know, Dion's right,
when he says, hey, you know, if his name wasn't Sanders,
it wouldn't happen. If his name was Manning, he'd be
going number one overall. I understand that.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
But that's finely good. I mean, it's track record when
you look at the Mannings and.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Look, arch still has a lot to prove. Right, we
can put him on all the mock drafts all we
want for two years from now. Guess what if he sucks,
They're not drafting. He's not gonna be number one just
because this surname's Manning. But the fact that you know,
Archie was a damn fine player on a terrible team
and got bludgeted for years, and then Peyton became what
(11:43):
he did and Eli for all this halts. He's a
Hall of Famer just no matter when, right, a couple
of Super Bowls, you move on. So, yeah, there's some
trust there, and one of the things being the surname
of Sanders. Though he's never been coached by anybody other
than Dion, Yeah, which doesn't help. Right.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
We've talked about it from you sports, uh you know
in perspective, you know, as you were coaching your daughter
whatever it was something you were concerned about, and it's
something we've certainly watched other friends, family members have to
deal with at some points. Understand, there's the brains that
handed out. So since he's now finishing college and hasn't
had that, you know, it becomes the all right, who
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and with Dion being the invisible hand.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
As much as you can say he's hands off, he's not, No,
he's not. There's still the tentacles, which means you've got
to have a coach who's willing to deal with whatever
that is. It's drafting, it's drafting Lonzo Ball knowing that. Okay,
LeVar Ball came with it, and look what happened. And
people see this, they see the recent history in sports
and okay, we did that. Is it worth it? Is
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it not? But now he's a bargain, right, That's the thing. Now,
Shador Sanders is a bargain because now he's a first
round talent, a top first round town. Look, the the
analysts don't have it wrong. Again, it does seem a
little personal because I've never seen criticism so over the
top about how we don't like this guy, which I'm like, okay,
you know what, Really everybody loved Baker Mayfield and a
(13:06):
swagger really loved it, loved it, loved Yes, some teams
loved it. I'm sure. I'm sure some teams hated it.
I'm sure some teams didn't like the swagger other guys,
because we've heard stories and other guys and all these
other guys.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
We talked about it with a little bit yesterday, and
something we we've broached a few times over the last
month is that how much of that becomes the interviewer.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
I can't tell you how to feel.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Right, if I'm answering a question, you can decide I'm
either confident or now I'm talking down to you, or
I'm you know, not respecting you. Right that how you
feel about something, tone, verbiage, choice, whatever is, is on
you as much as it. I mean, look, I should
you know the the niceties of it all. Sure, you
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go through it, but in the end, I can't tell
you how you feel. And that's part of what I
think with Shador Sanders and with other players, I'm always curious.
I'd love to be a fly on the wall, right,
what was that exchange like? And how much was you
decided to read into something that really wasn't there or
might have been there a little bit, but it's exacerbated
by your own situation.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Right.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
But because it wasn't like there were three guys that
came out, so there was a.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Few teams that said that. You don't know if part
of it is the strategy of I really don't want
to go to this team, so I'm going to put
this out there. But when enough of that gets out there,
you know it's not just a one off. It's a thing.
And we talked about it last night. It's a job
interview and you're trying to sell yourself and you don't
want people to not give you a job, and that's
kind of what happened. Team said, Okay, we're not ready
to give you. We're not ready to turn our franchise
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over you for a first rep it now, I mean
unless you and you really don't want to go back
to work, but you got to check a box and
get someone decided. But now second round the Browns. Okay, see,
now you'll know if the Browns are tanking or not.
If they take Shadora Sanders in the early party, you'll
know if they're tanking. We're staying away. It's okay, what
are you really going to do. But I mean that's
the whole thing, is that it's it's it's gone from
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he's overrated to now he's a bargain. And really it's
shows you that teams can get well too caught up
in themselves when it comes to evaluating a guy, and
you need that that that minute to step back and say,
are we really evaluating him the right way? Are we
really looking at him the right way?
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Too?
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Right? I mean we we watched it throughout the rounds, like,
all right, guy with injury issues, a couple of guys
that have some some red letters in the the personnel
file of things they've done off the field and things
buzzing around them there. And but if because if you
get it wrong with the quarterback, especially with the surname
(15:34):
of Sanders in this case, yeah, you're the guy that's
probably being shown the door. So you go with the
safer pick, you know, you take the double instead of
swinging for the home run exit.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
How about a Fresca swollen dome. The Jason Smith Show
with Mike Harmon Live our post NFL Draft show coming
up next. Yes, we have a lot to get to tonight.
We'll talk about the trade that rock the draft. Was
it great for the was it great for the Jaguars?
Was it just okay for both of them? Draft? Was
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it maybe a little bit less than just okay? J
That's next Jason and Mike Fox.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern seven
pm Pacific Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon,
Happy Night. One of the NFL Draft thirty two picks,
none of them, shoot, are Sanders in the books, and
just you know, we have a lot of NFL to
get to. But just want to say, NIX show, so
minus one and a half man, let's go. H Now,
you know I'm telling the truth about this because when
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I begrudgingly have to give credit to teams that are
tough that you hate, you know, I'm legit. However, there
is one team that has proven tonight that they're back,
and they had been gone for a while, and I
was happy because all the years, my whole life, it's been, oh,
look how good they do it. They're an exemplary franchise.
Like no, they've been a tire fire the last sixty years,
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and they deserve it. They're just like everybody else. But
then tonight they made two incredibly big moves and now
this team is back.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Third pick in the twenty twenty five NFL Draft, the
New York Giants select Abdul Carter, defensive end Penn State.
With the twenty fifth pick in the twenty twenty five
NFL drafts, the New York Giants select Jackson Dart, quarterback Mississippi.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
The Giants get their dominant edge rusher at number three.
And like we told you the big bold prediction that
I was right about because the Cowboys by but that
Travis Hunter thing kind of screwed the Cowboys moving up
to five after you trade the two and five pick.
I told you the Giants were going to move back
into the first round for a quarterback the back of
be He's twenty five thirty two. They did, maybe Schudorah Sanders,
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maybe Jackson Dart. Jackson Dart turned out to be the guy.
This is how you do it right. You sign a
guy for a year, not Atlanta Falcons, not give somebody
one hundred and sixty million dollars and then say, oh,
we're taking a guy at number nine. You sign a
guy for a year, and then you draft your quarterback
of the future at some point later on where he
either takes over from Russell Wilson in the middle of
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the season, or Russell Wilson plays great and he keeps
him on the bench, or he takes over in week
three when Russell Wilson stinks. Whatever it is, that's how
you do it. And the Giants look their back. They
went out and got the quarterback they wanted. It worked
with Eli in Mississippi, and now it's gonna work with
Jackson Dart At least that's probably what Joe Shane said.
But the Giants proved, Hey, they got two big playmakers
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in the first round of the draft. Carter is great.
This is part of their identity, their defensive line. It's
what made them so good a couple of years ago.
Now they add to that with a premier defensive player
in the draft that's not named Travis Hunter, and you
get a quarterback that moved up draft charts that many
analysts had as the second best quarterback in the draft.
If he needs a little bit of time, he needs
a little bit of time. The Giants did it right,
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and the Giants, unfortunately they're.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Back second round pick number thirty four, number ninety nine
in the third round, and a twenty twenty six third
round pick for the guy that many had starting to
creep up into the top ten, perhaps going to the
Giants as early as three. If suddenly Mahra ordered the
code red instead, they're able to get it. Joe Shane
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or his kid, whoever made the move, did very well
because you got that foundational piece. We talked about it
a lot, and it became the marching orders for this
twenty twenty five draft. You only have what three to
four guys that you say stars can't miss benchmark guys.
You got one of those in Carter, and then you're
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able to come back and get your quarterback for that
for that hole.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Yeah, I mean to change it in eight, what ten
slots and then give up a third rounder and a
second rounder next year for a guy that could be
your next franchise quarterback. It's a great move by the Giants.
I'm sorry. I mean you did the right thing too, though, No, no, no,
we did not. I We'll talk about.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
That more, but I mean we talked about building the guts.
But the Giants, coming off of last year, the laughing
stock of the offseason issue and all of the bad
analysis has related to Sakwan Barkley because it was terrible
right in the end. They weren't going to win that
many more games. But you just look like an idiot.
The way you said, hey, give us a call before
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he signed. It didn't really go over Quiet was so well.
They flipped the narrative from a year ago. This is
how you ace a draft. This is how you win
a draft. Now you gotta go win the rest of
the rounds because you're fighting in the division except for
the Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
So if there's someone who won tonight of the draft,
there's got to be someone who lost tonight. And oh yeah,
we're getting to that team coming up up next. Right here,
Jason and Mike, you're listening to Fox Sports Radio. There
was a clue right there.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Greetings, Welcome inside final hour tonight Jason Smith Show with
my best friend Mike Harmon. Uh second hour of our
NFL Draft twenty twenty five post night coverage, and boy
were there are a lot of fireworks tonight and it's
crazy that the main topic of conversation continues to be
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the guy who didn't get taken at all and nat
Schador Sanders, which is not surprised, Which is not surprising
when you think about how well every day for the
last three weeks leading up to the draft, like we
told you there's gonna be a new Shador Sanders story
every day. Well, you can't do a story about a
guy every day that have not get taken. And then yeah,
I know we're blowing past him, not gonna talk about him.
(21:56):
He's done now, righted it up.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
But now let's talk about these You're not gonna do
it because what sells if it bleeds, it leads, and.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Right now it's bleeding.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
So it's like Porzingis's head, Oh oh absolutely yeah, except
without getting the bandage on it. It's like we're just
gonna let it continue to bleed. It's like he got bladed,
like he's Dusty Roads.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yeah, getting bladed, and I'm gonna hide the razor blade
right here into my sweat. Hey. Hey, hey, sorry, I
was telling come on, if the Giants were the big
winners tonight and again it looks like they're back, and
I hate to say this, but I have to give
them credit. They flip the narrative from last offseason where
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they were an absolute laughing stock. We let Saquon even
though Saquon Barkley was never gonna run for two thousand
yards with the Giants. You watch him go to a
division rival that the owner says I don't want to
see him go to, and he goes there and he
wins a super Bowl. So I get it. But they
flip the narrative. They get the big edge rusher they need,
an Abdul Carter who's terrific. They get the quarterback they need,
and Jackson Dart who can develop at whatever pace you
(22:59):
want to behind Russell Wilson. It can be long, it
can be medium, it can be immediate. The Giants are back.
Beating up on the Giants is not gonna last much longer.
But if there's a winner of the draft, you know
there's a team that's a loser now before we get
to the team, because it involves youdor Sanders. Here's Sanders
talking to the media not too long ago after not
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being selected in the first round and what he had
to say about what he saw tonight and what we
could wind up seeing tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
We all didn't expect this, of course, but I feel
like we god anything possible, everything possible. I don't feel
like this happened, you know, for no reason. All this
is is of course feud to the fire, and I
don't know circumstances. We all know this sin to happen,
but we understand we own the bigger and better things.
(23:47):
Tomorrow's the day we're gonna be having regardless.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
There like that, he said we all know it shouldn't happen,
then ends with legendary. It sounds like political concession. Legend
Let me address you all.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
I know, I know we didn't get the results we
wanted tonight.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
That you know. That might be my new favorite phrase
that involves the word legendary, because for years my favorite
phrase was was after I hear it, I take get
back to this. It was after the Steelers Cardinal super Bowl,
right where the Steelers won. Roethlisberger takes him down to
the big drive, the touchdown pass senten. So after the
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super Bowl, he's on set on ESPN and Steve Young
is talking to him, and Steve Young says, Ben, I
want to tell you when I watched what you did
tonight on that last drive my heart I was like
the Grinch where it grew like eight sizes. It was,
it was, And Steve Young is having a tough time
finding words like it's really emotional. It's a great thing.
So Steve Young is like it was, it was, and
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Roethlisberger just says legendary. He just ruts what I was. Legendary. Yes,
what we do is legendary, legendary, legend I'm sure it's
on social media somewhere. So you got legendary, legendary. I
hear the word.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Dely and I go back to a Harold Bain's home run. Boy,
you really got that one. Harold there was a twenty
five inning game that he ended with a home run
to dead center field that just kept going and that
was the way the guy set it up. And he goes, boy,
you really got all that one.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Thanks for coming at that, hey, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Kind of like my interview with Joe Douglas, which legendary
up on social which is legendary. Fox Sports Radio on Twitter.
You'll see my me getting to talk to Joe Douglas
in between shows tonight. But legendary right, So I know
we'll be back tomorrow. Legendary, like I love, and I
want to give him a lot of credit because I
didn't think we'd hear from him. I thought, the way
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the night is going watching him fall through the draft,
we're not gonna see him on ESPN or NFL network.
We're not gonna hear from at the end. They're gonna wait,
it's gonna be radio silence. So I give him a
lot of credit for talking about it. Still, I'm still
me it shouldn't happened, Legendary, But I give him credit
for talking and putting out of state. But in the
end he has to right because if one of the
big criticism is you don't have any bit of humility
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to you, your hubris is what might have been part
that of what led to your fall, right pride before
the fall.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
To stand up and and go to it. And since
I use the dusty roads thing, I can't use another wrestler,
so because sometimes you need to be humbled and if.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
You know, you know. But it's it's that idea that
having the speech. Now that last line kind of cuts
cuts away. Yeah, but you still address the people because
you got a big party, right, you had that little
isolation photo photo booth like you were at prom and
then I kind of like that where they stop and
put the hat on. Long walk through the corridor though,
(26:44):
like you need to be that line. You have all
the logos, all tas at least.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
People up so you can shake some hands, take some photos.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
A long that's a long run. I'm glad. I'm glad
they all decided to sprint because I'm like, if we
had to watch them walk, that would boy. This draft
to go like five and a half hours. It's a
long way to go.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Are crocs really good for running? Because had those on?
I mean diamond crusted because I think if you start
losing jewels off those and you had to return them,
I'd be a problem.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
That's true, That's true. I mean I you know, when
I saw those, I thought back, you know, when we
went to California Adventure on Monday night, the whole big
iHeart night. So I went into the Avengers store and
they had Captain America crocks with the wings on the back.
I was like, Oh, I gotta have those, but they
didn't have my size. I was like, do you have
any in the back? No, sir, there's no back. I'm like,
what do you mean there's no back? What do you
(27:31):
mean there's no back? Well we have it's out.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
I thought my kids a pair that I saw online
and they threatened to disown me if I bought them.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Oh no, you got you gotta say, you know what
the yellow submarine, I do me, I do me, the
Yellow Submarine crocs DJ. We're all here in Harmon's Yellow Crocks.
So if there's a winner in the drag, I give
shred doors Sanders a lot of crowd, and I'm sure
we're gonna hear his dam again. I said it last out.
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I'm absolutely stunned. He felt all the way through the
first round. I can't. I knew he'd fall, I thought,
But at some point, hey, someone's gonna come up and
the slide's gonna stop at twenty one because the Steelers
clearly are gonna say, hey, look at what we did.
We're getting our quarterback. You all didn't know, you all
questioned me and Mike Tomlin's gonna come out, and when
more CON's gonna come out, they'll be patting themselves on
the back. We got our guy. We got them. Later
(28:21):
on in the value pick, all the time, blah blah,
We're gonna get you to our centers, and it's just
gonna work out for the Steelers. Except when the Steelers
come up at number twenty one, they decide, no, no, no,
we want a guy named Harmon instead.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
With the twenty first pick in the twenty twenty five
NFL Draft, Hobo, the Pittsburgh Steelers select well Derek Harman,
defensive tackle Oregon Harmon.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Jersey's on order, baby Harmon out of Oregon. Let's go Arman, Arman.
And I love the Steelers' reaction after is They said, hey,
we didn't take it, we didn't take a quarterback. But
Gmomark said, no, no, we weren't tempted. We were on
the clock. We got the player that we wanted. That's
(29:06):
the guy they went, Okay at twenty one, all right,
not not in the top five, not one of the
top five. Pay we got a guy at twenty one,
a guy that we wanted. All right. Let's just understand
for a second. The Steelers are the big losers of
the draft tonight, and at this if it was any
other team, fans would be rioting. We have Mason Rudolph
and Skyler Thompson, are our quarterbacks. This is now the
(29:29):
second year in a row you decided to go bargain
basement dumpster diving for quarterbacks. It didn't work last year.
And yet you treat the quarterback position, which is, oh,
by the way, last time I checked, hang on, still
the most important position on the football legend still there,
legendary going back to Ben Roethlisberger, of course, still the
most important position on the football field, and the Steelers
(29:51):
are treating it like it's a necessary evil at this point,
Omar Khan, Mike Tomlin, unless they have a rabbit they're
gonna pull out of the hat, unless they have some
sort a secret plan that none of us know about
and they pull it off. I mean it's time to say, guys,
I think the NFL has passed you by. It's time
for new leadership. It's time for a new GM and
a new head coach because you've decided to take the
(30:12):
most of it. The only thing your team needs, the
only thing you need is a quarterback. And you've decided,
now going on the last three since you replaced Roethlisberger,
we're gonna go really bargain basement on this like that again,
this is any other team, And it's what are they?
This is malpractice, this is NFL. If the Jets did this,
what people say? If the Raiders did this, what would
(30:32):
people say? But the Steelers are they know No, Clearly
the Steelers don't know what they're doing because they they
have no plan. As far as how do we win
in the NFL in twenty twenty five, Mike Tomlin still
thinks I'm gonna win like it's nineteen eighty seven where
he had a couple of running backs are and to
give the ball a lot to we got a couple
of weapons at wide receiver, Well throw it when we
need to. We're gonna play great defense, and that's how
we're gonna win. It's not how it works. And and
(30:54):
for Tomlin, you would think last year would have been
a bit of an ego check that. Okay, I went
all in on Russell. No, Russell's our guy. Remember all
last year there's a reason why Russell Wilson, Russell Wilson,
Russell Wilson. No, no, no, no, no, no, Russell Wilson,
Russell Wilson, and what happened gone. He was a reason
why you were terrible down the stretch, and you were
you were just running on vapors. At the end, you
(31:16):
had a quarterback that had one games for you, none
that we're gonna stick with Justin Fields. No, not that
Justin Fields might have done more, but you went in saying, hey,
we're gonna bargain basement Justin Fields and bargain basement Russell Wilson,
and that's gonna work. Okay, it didn't work. Okay, let's
let me learn my lesson. Let's make sure we get
a quarterback. Nope, nope, nope, we're gonna bring back Mason
Rudolph and we're gonna have Skylett Thompson. And that's it,
I mean, barring again, a secret plan that none of
(31:40):
us know about. I mean, I'm not on Pete Heggs's
signal shots, so maybe that's on there. But unless you unless,
unless you have that, this is absolutely I mean, this
is how to not run a football team. No, and
that's the curiosity. Obviously, they've got to look at their
defensive interior. Guys are getting a little longer in the tooth, right, Hayward.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Toward the end, I think you're just mad that it
wasn't a guy named Smith, and that it was a
guy named Harmon, and that.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Really cheesed you. No, No, I don't care. I think
you're a little salty if you need to be Smith,
I mean, who are they gonna take Smith? You're gonna
trade for Gino Smith? Gee, Geena ge Gino's got to
I'm glad. I'm glad that got hard. But now, but
you gotta be okay with people in Pittsburgh going, oh,
you know, I just can't stand Harmon. We could have
had Shador Sanders and now we could had Harmon blank Harmon.
(32:25):
I hate that guy, can't you Let's do the radio
show he's on because his name is Harmon. I'm gonna
go out of lamb.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
And there have been a bunch of folks that have
already said that in Pittsburgh for many, many a year
with my guy's touching wolf for in Pittsburgh both no,
no longer with us, so good thoughts there. But when
we look at what the Steelers they've been linked to,
potentially Kirk Cousins, you still have the balloon floating out
(32:51):
of whether Aaron Rodgers shows up or not.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
And again, if he wanted to be there, he would
be there, right, I believe donas right Davont Adam said
the best thing when he said, hey, what's Aaron waiting for?
Because he and he and Aaron are tight. He's waiting
for someone to show that they love him, right, because
that's what Aaron Rodgers watch. Sure, that's sure is nothing.
That was the biggest truth bomb that we saw all
last week. And are the Steelers showing Aaron Rodgers that
(33:14):
they is anybody showing Rogers that they love him? No,
So if you don't love me, I'm gonna sit out
here and maybe my career is done, but I'm gonna
come back. You gotta love me. And the Steelers aren't
suddenly gonna love him. They could have loved him a
few weeks ago. They're not gonna suddenly love him now.
It's not gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Once you get out of the draft and you start
getting in new offseason workouts in earnest, then then maybe
your affections will start taking on the form of I
don't know Michael Rappaport in Beautiful Girls, because until he
was faced with the idea that he was gonna lose
his girl, he ain't care. And then all of a
sudden he got the newest type of diamond. They called
(33:51):
it champagne and things Brown. Okay, thanks Brown, And that's
what it might take for con and for for Mike
tom and just to realize they need to get the
Brown rock. I mean, they bring Aaron Rodgers along.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
They're absolutely mismanaging the quarterback Again. I do have to
say it's the draft isn't over yet. We still have
some time to go. Kirk Cousins is still out there.
There could be some things happening. You could wait and
see where quarterbacks wind up going tomorrow because tomorrow is
going to be the day for Milroe and Sanders and
you know, Okay, so there's that. Okay, Kyle McCourt shot, Okay,
that's fine. But right now I look at the Steelers
(34:27):
like really like there needs to be an intervention. But
you understand this is the And I get that you
had a rough time, Mike tom On dealing with Le'Veon
Bell and Antonio Brown, and you had Ben Roethlisberger for
over a decade, I'm sure, but this is how you
win in the NFL. You can't do it the way
you've been trying to do.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
It well the last few years. Just an abject failure
in that regard, but they win games, so they would
tell you the proof is in the record, right, You're
as good as your record is. You don't have to
make it so hard.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
No, but the Steelers is not about hey, here's a
record and we get and make it to the playoffs.
That's the Jets, right, that's the that's the Raiders. Hey
we win, we make it to the playoffs. Oh my god,
it's amazing. But that's what they become the Steelers. But
it's still this, Hey, we're we're the one of the
top two or three franchises of the entire game. And
success for US as AFC championships and Super Bowls. Now,
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maybe they don't realize they haven't been there in a while,
but that's still the measuring bar of success. And now, okay,
now you're telling me, oh, for the Steelers being over
five hundred and maybe getting in and losing a playoff game,
that's success not for them, but of late, they're just
a better version of the Raiders. Oh wow, Now you're
trading on stuff that happened many, many years ago. People
in Pittsburgh gonna love you after that. You're done, madamn, right,
(35:41):
Because sometimes as ty Shirt's original podcast seven iterations ago
was called you need a reality check.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
And you need to remember you can't just keep living
in the past.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Damn it. He just said, we were a little bit
better than the Raiders. I wanna go find that guy.
I'm gonna go, you know, I'm gonna go buy something
from memorabilia and sell it to them. I'm gonna rip
the cart and mailed to him and go on. I
shouldn't have said that about our guys, but he said,
are we really contenders? Are we not? Well?
Speaker 3 (36:06):
We were above five hundred and we kind of make
the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Every now and then someone someone from Pittsburgh Canna email
you and so I have a mint condition Paul canerko
rookie card for a dollar. You're gonna send them a dollar.
They're gonna send you rip card and say, oh blank,
you harmon, that's what's gonna happen. I actually kind of
hope that does. I mean, a good story, but just
you know, put the button on it. The Steelers for
years with Roethlisberger, I mean, how many years was he
(36:30):
over forty two hundred yards? And if you did a
per game basis on his yards per game, you know
when he actually played because he'd missed some games. He
missed halves of games. Oh no, Roethlisberger's done. Oh wait,
he's taking the coat off and now he's back. Wait.
You had a lot of talent passed through there, right,
pass catchers, there was a lot of talent. They were
all nuts, But you had a lot of talent passed
(36:53):
through there. And now you're in a division where you
can't keep wishing and hoping at the quarterback position. So
there's got to be a plan. Tell me you have
a plan. Exit. How about these marines are on trial
for their lives. Exit? How about a Fresca exit? Swollen dumb?
Tell me you have pin their hopes to a phone bill? Uh,
straight ahead? What team after tonight is continuing to have
(37:18):
a perfect off season? One team is very quietly throwing
a perfect game since the end of twenty twenty four.
Who is it? We'll tell you next right here, Jason
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
This is the best of The Jason Smith Show with
Mike Harmon on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Greetings, Happy Thursday, Happy NFL Draft night. Yeah, the Jason
Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon. I'm anna
ask man. True, the first thirty two picks of the
draft are in the books. We'll get to it in
a second, one, two, three, fourday He actually does count
(00:50):
that high. I'm not gonna can't do that toa eighteen.
There you go? Yeah, okay, is he the official counter?
Did you guys use him during the Draft show? But
something first we had talked about all week, maybe for
a week and a half leading up to it, when
we knew it was going to happen. Great NFL Draft
(01:11):
live show. We just had Jenny Taft, Jay Glazer, LeVar Arrington,
and former Jets GM Joe Douglas, who I got to meet.
There will be a video put up on five Sports
Radio Twitter account very soon, and I don't want to
spoil anything, except I will say this. I can no
(01:32):
longer drink the diet coke that I had in my
hand when I walked in. You will see why. You'll
see why. We'll tell you when it goes up being
edited right now. We put together We got to meet
Joe Douglas, got to talk to him, and and and
I'm on the air and everything is fine.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
So it didn't seem like there was great animosity or
at least he hit it well if he had anything,
good beat for you. Very nice man. Great job by
Jenny and LeVar and Jay and Joe. I mean that
was just fantastic listen throughout. Obviously Jay is the information
man of information man, but Jenny running point uh and
(02:08):
seamlessly through the thirty two picks a lot of moving parts,
add the trades right off the jump, chaos. I'm texting you.
It was like, well, it's all happening. It's all happening
just as we thought. Uh, unless it didn't still the
same order just jumbled the insignias a little bit.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Yeah. Look I was I was a little nervous. I
didn't know how it was gonna go it coming in
and okay, and you know here he is former GM
and the Jets and all talk about the Jets. What
are we gonna how's it gonna go? And and I think, well,
I don't, I don't. I don't know that he would
talk to me again. But but maybe that's a you know,
we let the video happ you go.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
I mean we all just kind of a good back,
let you do your thing. Uh, there was no judgment past. Yeah, no,
that's true.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
That's true.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
We're all mired, you know in our own little conversations.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
What did your team do?
Speaker 3 (02:58):
How'd you like my team? How was the drive in?
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (03:01):
What'd you do with your extra hour while you were
listening to draft coverage? Might have laid down and then
your draft coverage? Sure, second screen experience. I made all
those kind of things. But you got to meet Joe Douglas.
I mean, I know it's been an ambition going on
many a year. I have I still have like five
or six questions for him. So sure when we have
(03:23):
a return bout, we won't have any no fanboy things,
journalistic questions.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Listen, listen, the next bab it'll it'll be legit, and
next thing it will be legit. This was hous you
know this is I don't know, it's a It was
kind of like I thought. The the the atmosphere is
kind of like a way in before a box. That's
kind of where I was a little bit thought you
were gonna get hit.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
I mean, well, and I'm playing a lot of conversations
on the side and then tell you guys in the middle, I'll.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Tell you what. Man. I walked in and I'm like, whoa,
Joe Douglas is way bigger than I am. Wow, this
would not even be closed. That was something that stood
out really fast. He was he was sitting in the
in the in the seat right here in the studio
or watching him coming in, and I'm you know, I'll
tell you this. Here's a teaser. I'm wearing a Jets hoodie.
You know. I had to do it for meeting Joe.
(04:11):
Try to come in. I see everybody. Everybody stands up
and Joe stands up and it's one of those when
people stand up and they don't really need to move
their feet because their feet are already on the ground,
and I'm like, oh, wow, wow, he's a big dude. Wow. Okay,
all right, then okay what uh uh okay? And then
I met Joe Douglas.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
See, here's the thing, me being the five foot seven
fire plug of a man that I am.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Everybody's tall.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Yeah, so the extra two inches here there, it doesn't
really matter, right, the difference between a six foot or
and a seven foot You're all tall. I'm looking at yeah,
and I say you are not you, But you know
people six feet are taller that you're. You're all giants
relative to me, So you know that that extra bit.
But I could see the fear in your eyes that
(04:56):
if things went badly, he had reach and could you
out one.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Hundred yea undred percent, one hundred percent I I mean
I I mean the gun show. It was a little
bit there. You know, you were bit into I like
to think I'm prepared for any circumstance. That was when
when he stood up, I was like, oh, wow, this
is where you're bad.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
First step really could have cost you, really could have
been problem.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Jason Smith Mike Harmon post NFL Draft show here and
what a first round we had we had fireworks early.
But the biggest story, crazily because this is the NFL, right,
as Jay Laser likes to shave that say, the greatest
reality show in the history of the world is the NFL.
And all the conversation is about a guy that didn't
get taken tonight, and that Shador Sanders, who was still
(05:42):
on the board. Mel Kiper's number one quarterback is still
on the board going into the beginning of the second round.
You decide you had to throw shade at Mel kip No,
because here's the thing. I think he was a big
deal when I felt so bad for Mel because I
told you, I know, I know Mel for a long time.
I haven't talked to in a few years, but when
I was on ESPN, we talked all the time. And
he comes out right away, Chadoor Sanders, my number one
(06:04):
quarterback on the border and he just falls. All the
way through the first round, Chador Sanders and Kuiper's talking
about and other quarterbacks. I'm going, oh, I just I
just feel bad at this point because here's Mel Sander.
Is that No, there's a pic. It's not your door, Nope,
not your door, Nope, not your door. Nope, not your door.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
And then there were you could speak of it with conviction, Jason,
and in the end you may have your evaluation on
a player. That just means thirty two groups of people
disagreed with you.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
If there was thirty three, they might they might have
been with you. Yeah, I mean that's what thirty three
all you need? It was one you needed one more.
Now before we get into the slide. There is no
like if you said to me, hey, what Schadoor Sanders, like, like,
if you can you can encapsulate Chador Sanders in one
ten second clip, I would say to you absolutely what
we saw tonight when ESPN went to their first commercial
(06:53):
break and Chaudor Sanders hadn't been taken yet, right they
they had the first couple pics. We had the big
trade with the Jaguars and the Browns, which will get
to in a few minutes. And you hear Mike Greenberg saying, hey,
coming up and Shadora Sanders, of course, where is he
gonna go? And they cut to his draft party or
the where he's going to be, and it's a wide
shot of a couch that's got two pillows that say
(07:15):
legendary on them behind him in all different kinds of
script and font are all words describing Shador Sanders and
says legendary. It says perfect timing everywhere, which I think
is a really great troll job. Right, he doesn't play
on time.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
That was a big thing, Manah, the unnamed coach said yesterday,
Sor Sanders doesn't play on time, and he's got perfect
timing and money signs everywhere, all of this and huge
font behind the couch and he's not in the camera.
Nobody is on camera. It's an empty shot of the
couch that is Shadoor Sanders. That is so on brand
(07:50):
that I can't I can't even tell you. It's absolute perfection.
This is a guy who is so full is so
he's full of himself, He's full of what he can do.
He is full of confidence. He has it all going on, right,
all of this. And then at the same time, now
I'm not gonna be on camera because you don't need
(08:10):
to see me on camera because I call the shots. Meanwhile,
maybe it's about you're not going to see me on
camera the entire night free falling through the first round
of the draft. But that is so on brand. Here's
how I feel about my own abilities and how my
team feels about my abilities. And then when they take
the shot, the wide shot, there's nobody in it like
whether that was by design, But that I said, that
is that is Shador Sanders. That encapsulates him to a
(08:33):
t What does it mean to be him that right there? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (08:35):
I mean you saw the tweet that was put up
before the draft, I mean I sent the thing to
you and our guy Justin Frossberg, who is producing the draft,
show all the kind of novelty prop bets that had
been out there, one of which Shador Sanders had allegedly
changed his phone number, So there was a prop bet
(08:56):
of whether teams couldn't.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Get a hoe.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yeah, yeah, because he changed his phone. Like that's how
absurd things got. And then he had that little rubber
room with as you described it, with all of those
kind of like something out of Jared Leto's joker, Right,
I'm telling tell me that wasn't exactly right there that
you couldn't have seen his ass sitting on that throne
right there. So all of that and a lot of
build up, and even when the Giants traded up to
(09:20):
get Jackson Dart there was the shot back to the
spot is the sador Sanders.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Hey, So I'll take being right about that. The Giants
were going to trade back into the first round for quarterback.
It was a different quarterback, but I said twenty five
to thirty. They said there was gonna be one, and
there it was. It's gonna be an insider. But I
will say this to be to be to be serious
and take this to it to a point. I am
absolutely shocked. I really I am, And this is you
(09:45):
and I have been doing this for a long time.
We've been in sports for a long time. There are
stunning stories. There are stories that shock you. But as
you do this for a while, stuff becomes less shocking.
Then it becomes more whoa jarring for a few minutes,
and then you understand right, just because you do this
for a long time. I am shocked that he fell
all the way through the first round. I am stunned
(10:05):
that he did not get taken. That the fall didn't
stop at nine, didn't stop somewhere at fifteen with someone
trading up, didn't stop with the Steelers twenty one, didn't
stop with anybody coming back into the first round to
get him I am stunned that this is a guy
that is that good. How whatever you feel about him?
Oh maybe he's not. Is he not one of the
top two picks? Okay, But now it's like someone's gonna
(10:27):
get an absolute bargain with Shadoor Sanders early in the
second round. Maybe now it's the Browns. We're gonna say, hey,
look at us, man, we're winning. Did we made the
big trade? We got this, We're gonna get our quarterback?
Like Shador Sanders is really good. And I know that
people get caught up in minutia and teams were afraid
to pick him. You get turned off by whatever happens
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in the interviews. You look at tape, you wonder how
good he really is. When a quarterback's gotta be a
gut feel and we've watched him all the things we've
said about him for the past couple of years. He's tough,
he delivers the ball, he's got confidence. There's a stuff
you don't like. I understand. So maybe that prevents you
from going number one and number two, But to prevent
you from going in the first round, yeah, I think
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it's personal a little bit. And I you know, Dion's right,
when he says, hey, you know, if his name wasn't Sanders,
it wouldn't happen. If his name was Manning, he'd be
going number one overall. I understand that.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
But that's finely good. I mean, it's track record when
you look at the Mannings and.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Look, arch still has a lot to prove. Right, we
can put him on all the mock drafts all we
want for two years from now. Guess what if he sucks,
They're not drafting. He's not gonna be number one just
because this surname's Manning. But the fact that you know,
Archie was a damn fine player on a terrible team
and got bludgeted for years, and then Peyton became what
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he did and Eli for all this halts. He's a
Hall of Famer just no matter when, right, a couple
of Super Bowls, you move on. So, yeah, there's some
trust there, and one of the things being the surname
of Sanders. Though he's never been coached by anybody other
than Dion, Yeah, which doesn't help. Right.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
We've talked about it from you sports, uh you know
in perspective, you know, as you were coaching your daughter
whatever it was something you were concerned about, and it's
something we've certainly watched other friends, family members have to
deal with at some points. Understand, there's the brains that
handed out. So since he's now finishing college and hasn't
had that, you know, it becomes the all right, who
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and with Dion being the invisible hand.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
As much as you can say he's hands off, he's not, No,
he's not. There's still the tentacles, which means you've got
to have a coach who's willing to deal with whatever
that is. It's drafting, it's drafting Lonzo Ball knowing that. Okay,
LeVar Ball came with it, and look what happened. And
people see this, they see the recent history in sports
and okay, we did that. Is it worth it? Is
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it not? But now he's a bargain, right, That's the thing. Now,
Shador Sanders is a bargain because now he's a first
round talent, a top first round town. Look, the the
analysts don't have it wrong. Again, it does seem a
little personal because I've never seen criticism so over the
top about how we don't like this guy, which I'm like, okay,
you know what, Really everybody loved Baker Mayfield and a
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swagger really loved it, loved it, loved Yes, some teams
loved it. I'm sure. I'm sure some teams hated it.
I'm sure some teams didn't like the swagger other guys,
because we've heard stories and other guys and all these
other guys.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
We talked about it with a little bit yesterday, and
something we we've broached a few times over the last
month is that how much of that becomes the interviewer.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
I can't tell you how to feel.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Right, if I'm answering a question, you can decide I'm
either confident or now I'm talking down to you, or
I'm you know, not respecting you. Right that how you
feel about something, tone, verbiage, choice, whatever is, is on
you as much as it. I mean, look, I should
you know the the niceties of it all. Sure, you
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go through it, but in the end, I can't tell
you how you feel. And that's part of what I
think with Shador Sanders and with other players, I'm always curious.
I'd love to be a fly on the wall, right,
what was that exchange like? And how much was you
decided to read into something that really wasn't there or
might have been there a little bit, but it's exacerbated
by your own situation.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Right.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
But because it wasn't like there were three guys that
came out, so there was a.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Few teams that said that. You don't know if part
of it is the strategy of I really don't want
to go to this team, so I'm going to put
this out there. But when enough of that gets out there,
you know it's not just a one off. It's a thing.
And we talked about it last night. It's a job
interview and you're trying to sell yourself and you don't
want people to not give you a job, and that's
kind of what happened. Team said, Okay, we're not ready
to give you. We're not ready to turn our franchise
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over you for a first rep it now, I mean
unless you and you really don't want to go back
to work, but you got to check a box and
get someone decided. But now second round the Browns. Okay, see,
now you'll know if the Browns are tanking or not.
If they take Shadora Sanders in the early party, you'll
know if they're tanking. We're staying away. It's okay, what
are you really going to do. But I mean that's
the whole thing, is that it's it's it's gone from
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he's overrated to now he's a bargain. And really it's
shows you that teams can get well too caught up
in themselves when it comes to evaluating a guy, and
you need that that that minute to step back and say,
are we really evaluating him the right way? Are we
really looking at him the right way?
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Too?
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Right? I mean we we watched it throughout the rounds, like,
all right, guy with injury issues, a couple of guys
that have some some red letters in the the personnel
file of things they've done off the field and things
buzzing around them there. And but if because if you
get it wrong with the quarterback, especially with the surname
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of Sanders in this case, yeah, you're the guy that's
probably being shown the door. So you go with the
safer pick, you know, you take the double instead of
swinging for the home run exit.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
How about a Fresca swollen dome. The Jason Smith Show
with Mike Harmon Live our post NFL Draft show coming
up next. Yes, we have a lot to get to tonight.
We'll talk about the trade that rock the draft. Was
it great for the was it great for the Jaguars?
Was it just okay for both of them? Draft? Was
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it maybe a little bit less than just okay? J
That's next Jason and Mike Fox.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern seven
pm Pacific Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon,
Happy Night. One of the NFL Draft thirty two picks,
none of them, shoot, are Sanders in the books, and
just you know, we have a lot of NFL to
get to. But just want to say, NIX show, so
minus one and a half man, let's go. H Now,
you know I'm telling the truth about this because when
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I begrudgingly have to give credit to teams that are
tough that you hate, you know, I'm legit. However, there
is one team that has proven tonight that they're back,
and they had been gone for a while, and I
was happy because all the years, my whole life, it's been, oh,
look how good they do it. They're an exemplary franchise.
Like no, they've been a tire fire the last sixty years,
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and they deserve it. They're just like everybody else. But
then tonight they made two incredibly big moves and now
this team is back.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Third pick in the twenty twenty five NFL Draft, the
New York Giants select Abdul Carter, defensive end Penn State.
With the twenty fifth pick in the twenty twenty five
NFL drafts, the New York Giants select Jackson Dart, quarterback Mississippi.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
The Giants get their dominant edge rusher at number three.
And like we told you the big bold prediction that
I was right about because the Cowboys by but that
Travis Hunter thing kind of screwed the Cowboys moving up
to five after you trade the two and five pick.
I told you the Giants were going to move back
into the first round for a quarterback the back of
be He's twenty five thirty two. They did, maybe Schudorah Sanders,
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maybe Jackson Dart. Jackson Dart turned out to be the guy.
This is how you do it right. You sign a
guy for a year, not Atlanta Falcons, not give somebody
one hundred and sixty million dollars and then say, oh,
we're taking a guy at number nine. You sign a
guy for a year, and then you draft your quarterback
of the future at some point later on where he
either takes over from Russell Wilson in the middle of
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the season, or Russell Wilson plays great and he keeps
him on the bench, or he takes over in week
three when Russell Wilson stinks. Whatever it is, that's how
you do it. And the Giants look their back. They
went out and got the quarterback they wanted. It worked
with Eli in Mississippi, and now it's gonna work with
Jackson Dart At least that's probably what Joe Shane said.
But the Giants proved, Hey, they got two big playmakers
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in the first round of the draft. Carter is great.
This is part of their identity, their defensive line. It's
what made them so good a couple of years ago.
Now they add to that with a premier defensive player
in the draft that's not named Travis Hunter, and you
get a quarterback that moved up draft charts that many
analysts had as the second best quarterback in the draft.
If he needs a little bit of time, he needs
a little bit of time. The Giants did it right,
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and the Giants, unfortunately they're.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Back second round pick number thirty four, number ninety nine
in the third round, and a twenty twenty six third
round pick for the guy that many had starting to
creep up into the top ten, perhaps going to the
Giants as early as three. If suddenly Mahra ordered the
code red instead, they're able to get it. Joe Shane
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or his kid, whoever made the move, did very well
because you got that foundational piece. We talked about it
a lot, and it became the marching orders for this
twenty twenty five draft. You only have what three to
four guys that you say stars can't miss benchmark guys.
You got one of those in Carter, and then you're
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able to come back and get your quarterback for that
for that hole.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Yeah, I mean to change it in eight, what ten
slots and then give up a third rounder and a
second rounder next year for a guy that could be
your next franchise quarterback. It's a great move by the Giants.
I'm sorry. I mean you did the right thing too, though, No, no, no,
we did not. I We'll talk about.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
That more, but I mean we talked about building the guts.
But the Giants, coming off of last year, the laughing
stock of the offseason issue and all of the bad
analysis has related to Sakwan Barkley because it was terrible
right in the end. They weren't going to win that
many more games. But you just look like an idiot.
The way you said, hey, give us a call before
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he signed. It didn't really go over Quiet was so well.
They flipped the narrative from a year ago. This is
how you ace a draft. This is how you win
a draft. Now you gotta go win the rest of
the rounds because you're fighting in the division except for
the Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
So if there's someone who won tonight of the draft,
there's got to be someone who lost tonight. And oh yeah,
we're getting to that team coming up up next. Right here,
Jason and Mike, you're listening to Fox Sports Radio. There
was a clue right there.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Greetings, Welcome inside final hour tonight Jason Smith Show with
my best friend Mike Harmon. Uh second hour of our
NFL Draft twenty twenty five post night coverage, and boy
were there are a lot of fireworks tonight and it's
crazy that the main topic of conversation continues to be
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the guy who didn't get taken at all and nat
Schador Sanders, which is not surprised, Which is not surprising
when you think about how well every day for the
last three weeks leading up to the draft, like we
told you there's gonna be a new Shador Sanders story
every day. Well, you can't do a story about a
guy every day that have not get taken. And then yeah,
I know we're blowing past him, not gonna talk about him.
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He's done now, righted it up.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
But now let's talk about these You're not gonna do
it because what sells if it bleeds, it leads, and.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Right now it's bleeding.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
So it's like Porzingis's head, Oh oh absolutely yeah, except
without getting the bandage on it. It's like we're just
gonna let it continue to bleed. It's like he got bladed,
like he's Dusty Roads.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yeah, getting bladed, and I'm gonna hide the razor blade
right here into my sweat. Hey. Hey, hey, sorry, I
was telling come on, if the Giants were the big
winners tonight and again it looks like they're back, and
I hate to say this, but I have to give
them credit. They flip the narrative from last offseason where
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they were an absolute laughing stock. We let Saquon even
though Saquon Barkley was never gonna run for two thousand
yards with the Giants. You watch him go to a
division rival that the owner says I don't want to
see him go to, and he goes there and he
wins a super Bowl. So I get it. But they
flip the narrative. They get the big edge rusher they need,
an Abdul Carter who's terrific. They get the quarterback they need,
and Jackson Dart who can develop at whatever pace you
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want to behind Russell Wilson. It can be long, it
can be medium, it can be immediate. The Giants are back.
Beating up on the Giants is not gonna last much longer.
But if there's a winner of the draft, you know
there's a team that's a loser now before we get
to the team, because it involves youdor Sanders. Here's Sanders
talking to the media not too long ago after not
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being selected in the first round and what he had
to say about what he saw tonight and what we
could wind up seeing tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
We all didn't expect this, of course, but I feel
like we god anything possible, everything possible. I don't feel
like this happened, you know, for no reason. All this
is is of course feud to the fire, and I
don't know circumstances. We all know this sin to happen,
but we understand we own the bigger and better things.
(23:47):
Tomorrow's the day we're gonna be having regardless.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
There like that, he said we all know it shouldn't happen,
then ends with legendary. It sounds like political concession. Legend
Let me address you all.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
I know, I know we didn't get the results we
wanted tonight.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
That you know. That might be my new favorite phrase
that involves the word legendary, because for years my favorite
phrase was was after I hear it, I take get
back to this. It was after the Steelers Cardinal super Bowl,
right where the Steelers won. Roethlisberger takes him down to
the big drive, the touchdown pass senten. So after the
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super Bowl, he's on set on ESPN and Steve Young
is talking to him, and Steve Young says, Ben, I
want to tell you when I watched what you did
tonight on that last drive my heart I was like
the Grinch where it grew like eight sizes. It was,
it was, And Steve Young is having a tough time
finding words like it's really emotional. It's a great thing.
So Steve Young is like it was, it was, and
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Roethlisberger just says legendary. He just ruts what I was. Legendary. Yes,
what we do is legendary, legendary, legend I'm sure it's
on social media somewhere. So you got legendary, legendary. I
hear the word.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Dely and I go back to a Harold Bain's home run. Boy,
you really got that one. Harold there was a twenty
five inning game that he ended with a home run
to dead center field that just kept going and that
was the way the guy set it up. And he goes, boy,
you really got all that one.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Thanks for coming at that, hey, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Kind of like my interview with Joe Douglas, which legendary
up on social which is legendary. Fox Sports Radio on Twitter.
You'll see my me getting to talk to Joe Douglas
in between shows tonight. But legendary right, So I know
we'll be back tomorrow. Legendary, like I love, and I
want to give him a lot of credit because I
didn't think we'd hear from him. I thought, the way
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the night is going watching him fall through the draft,
we're not gonna see him on ESPN or NFL network.
We're not gonna hear from at the end. They're gonna wait,
it's gonna be radio silence. So I give him a
lot of credit for talking about it. Still, I'm still
me it shouldn't happened, Legendary, But I give him credit
for talking and putting out of state. But in the
end he has to right because if one of the
big criticism is you don't have any bit of humility
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to you, your hubris is what might have been part
that of what led to your fall, right pride before
the fall.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
To stand up and and go to it. And since
I use the dusty roads thing, I can't use another wrestler,
so because sometimes you need to be humbled and if.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
You know, you know. But it's it's that idea that
having the speech. Now that last line kind of cuts
cuts away. Yeah, but you still address the people because
you got a big party, right, you had that little
isolation photo photo booth like you were at prom and
then I kind of like that where they stop and
put the hat on. Long walk through the corridor though,
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like you need to be that line. You have all
the logos, all tas at least.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
People up so you can shake some hands, take some photos.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
A long that's a long run. I'm glad. I'm glad
they all decided to sprint because I'm like, if we
had to watch them walk, that would boy. This draft
to go like five and a half hours. It's a
long way to go.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Are crocs really good for running? Because had those on?
I mean diamond crusted because I think if you start
losing jewels off those and you had to return them,
I'd be a problem.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
That's true, That's true. I mean I you know, when
I saw those, I thought back, you know, when we
went to California Adventure on Monday night, the whole big
iHeart night. So I went into the Avengers store and
they had Captain America crocks with the wings on the back.
I was like, Oh, I gotta have those, but they
didn't have my size. I was like, do you have
any in the back? No, sir, there's no back. I'm like,
what do you mean there's no back? What do you
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mean there's no back? Well we have it's out.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
I thought my kids a pair that I saw online
and they threatened to disown me if I bought them.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Oh no, you got you gotta say, you know what
the yellow submarine, I do me, I do me, the
Yellow Submarine crocs DJ. We're all here in Harmon's Yellow Crocks.
So if there's a winner in the drag, I give
shred doors Sanders a lot of crowd, and I'm sure
we're gonna hear his dam again. I said it last out.
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I'm absolutely stunned. He felt all the way through the
first round. I can't. I knew he'd fall, I thought,
But at some point, hey, someone's gonna come up and
the slide's gonna stop at twenty one because the Steelers
clearly are gonna say, hey, look at what we did.
We're getting our quarterback. You all didn't know, you all
questioned me and Mike Tomlin's gonna come out, and when
more CON's gonna come out, they'll be patting themselves on
the back. We got our guy. We got them. Later
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on in the value pick, all the time, blah blah,
We're gonna get you to our centers, and it's just
gonna work out for the Steelers. Except when the Steelers
come up at number twenty one, they decide, no, no, no,
we want a guy named Harmon instead.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
With the twenty first pick in the twenty twenty five
NFL Draft, Hobo, the Pittsburgh Steelers select well Derek Harman,
defensive tackle Oregon Harmon.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Jersey's on order, baby Harmon out of Oregon. Let's go Arman, Arman.
And I love the Steelers' reaction after is They said, hey,
we didn't take it, we didn't take a quarterback. But
Gmomark said, no, no, we weren't tempted. We were on
the clock. We got the player that we wanted. That's
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the guy they went, Okay at twenty one, all right,
not not in the top five, not one of the
top five. Pay we got a guy at twenty one,
a guy that we wanted. All right. Let's just understand
for a second. The Steelers are the big losers of
the draft tonight, and at this if it was any
other team, fans would be rioting. We have Mason Rudolph
and Skyler Thompson, are our quarterbacks. This is now the
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second year in a row you decided to go bargain
basement dumpster diving for quarterbacks. It didn't work last year.
And yet you treat the quarterback position, which is, oh,
by the way, last time I checked, hang on, still
the most important position on the football legend still there,
legendary going back to Ben Roethlisberger, of course, still the
most important position on the football field, and the Steelers
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are treating it like it's a necessary evil at this point,
Omar Khan, Mike Tomlin, unless they have a rabbit they're
gonna pull out of the hat, unless they have some
sort a secret plan that none of us know about
and they pull it off. I mean it's time to say, guys,
I think the NFL has passed you by. It's time
for new leadership. It's time for a new GM and
a new head coach because you've decided to take the
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most of it. The only thing your team needs, the
only thing you need is a quarterback. And you've decided,
now going on the last three since you replaced Roethlisberger,
we're gonna go really bargain basement on this like that again,
this is any other team, And it's what are they?
This is malpractice, this is NFL. If the Jets did this,
what people say? If the Raiders did this, what would
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people say? But the Steelers are they know No, Clearly
the Steelers don't know what they're doing because they they
have no plan. As far as how do we win
in the NFL in twenty twenty five, Mike Tomlin still
thinks I'm gonna win like it's nineteen eighty seven where
he had a couple of running backs are and to
give the ball a lot to we got a couple
of weapons at wide receiver, Well throw it when we
need to. We're gonna play great defense, and that's how
we're gonna win. It's not how it works. And and
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for Tomlin, you would think last year would have been
a bit of an ego check that. Okay, I went
all in on Russell. No, Russell's our guy. Remember all
last year there's a reason why Russell Wilson, Russell Wilson,
Russell Wilson. No, no, no, no, no, no, Russell Wilson,
Russell Wilson, and what happened gone. He was a reason
why you were terrible down the stretch, and you were
you were just running on vapors. At the end, you
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had a quarterback that had one games for you, none
that we're gonna stick with Justin Fields. No, not that
Justin Fields might have done more, but you went in saying, hey,
we're gonna bargain basement Justin Fields and bargain basement Russell Wilson,
and that's gonna work. Okay, it didn't work. Okay, let's
let me learn my lesson. Let's make sure we get
a quarterback. Nope, nope, nope, we're gonna bring back Mason
Rudolph and we're gonna have Skylett Thompson. And that's it,
I mean, barring again, a secret plan that none of
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us know about. I mean, I'm not on Pete Heggs's
signal shots, so maybe that's on there. But unless you unless,
unless you have that, this is absolutely I mean, this
is how to not run a football team. No, and
that's the curiosity. Obviously, they've got to look at their
defensive interior. Guys are getting a little longer in the tooth, right, Hayward.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Toward the end, I think you're just mad that it
wasn't a guy named Smith, and that it was a
guy named Harmon, and that.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Really cheesed you. No, No, I don't care. I think
you're a little salty if you need to be Smith,
I mean, who are they gonna take Smith? You're gonna
trade for Gino Smith? Gee, Geena ge Gino's got to
I'm glad. I'm glad that got hard. But now, but
you gotta be okay with people in Pittsburgh going, oh,
you know, I just can't stand Harmon. We could have
had Shador Sanders and now we could had Harmon blank Harmon.
(32:25):
I hate that guy, can't you Let's do the radio
show he's on because his name is Harmon. I'm gonna
go out of lamb.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
And there have been a bunch of folks that have
already said that in Pittsburgh for many, many a year
with my guy's touching wolf for in Pittsburgh both no,
no longer with us, so good thoughts there. But when
we look at what the Steelers they've been linked to,
potentially Kirk Cousins, you still have the balloon floating out
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of whether Aaron Rodgers shows up or not.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
And again, if he wanted to be there, he would
be there, right, I believe donas right Davont Adam said
the best thing when he said, hey, what's Aaron waiting for?
Because he and he and Aaron are tight. He's waiting
for someone to show that they love him, right, because
that's what Aaron Rodgers watch. Sure, that's sure is nothing.
That was the biggest truth bomb that we saw all
last week. And are the Steelers showing Aaron Rodgers that
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they is anybody showing Rogers that they love him? No,
So if you don't love me, I'm gonna sit out
here and maybe my career is done, but I'm gonna
come back. You gotta love me. And the Steelers aren't
suddenly gonna love him. They could have loved him a
few weeks ago. They're not gonna suddenly love him now.
It's not gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Once you get out of the draft and you start
getting in new offseason workouts in earnest, then then maybe
your affections will start taking on the form of I
don't know Michael Rappaport in Beautiful Girls, because until he
was faced with the idea that he was gonna lose
his girl, he ain't care. And then all of a
sudden he got the newest type of diamond. They called
(33:51):
it champagne and things Brown. Okay, thanks Brown, And that's
what it might take for con and for for Mike
tom and just to realize they need to get the
Brown rock. I mean, they bring Aaron Rodgers along.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
They're absolutely mismanaging the quarterback Again. I do have to
say it's the draft isn't over yet. We still have
some time to go. Kirk Cousins is still out there.
There could be some things happening. You could wait and
see where quarterbacks wind up going tomorrow because tomorrow is
going to be the day for Milroe and Sanders and
you know, Okay, so there's that. Okay, Kyle McCourt shot, Okay,
that's fine. But right now I look at the Steelers
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like really like there needs to be an intervention. But
you understand this is the And I get that you
had a rough time, Mike tom On dealing with Le'Veon
Bell and Antonio Brown, and you had Ben Roethlisberger for
over a decade, I'm sure, but this is how you
win in the NFL. You can't do it the way
you've been trying to do.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
It well the last few years. Just an abject failure
in that regard, but they win games, so they would
tell you the proof is in the record, right, You're
as good as your record is. You don't have to
make it so hard.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
No, but the Steelers is not about hey, here's a
record and we get and make it to the playoffs.
That's the Jets, right, that's the that's the Raiders. Hey
we win, we make it to the playoffs. Oh my god,
it's amazing. But that's what they become the Steelers. But
it's still this, Hey, we're we're the one of the
top two or three franchises of the entire game. And
success for US as AFC championships and Super Bowls. Now,
(35:18):
maybe they don't realize they haven't been there in a while,
but that's still the measuring bar of success. And now, okay,
now you're telling me, oh, for the Steelers being over
five hundred and maybe getting in and losing a playoff game,
that's success not for them, but of late, they're just
a better version of the Raiders. Oh wow, Now you're
trading on stuff that happened many, many years ago. People
in Pittsburgh gonna love you after that. You're done, madamn, right,
(35:41):
Because sometimes as ty Shirt's original podcast seven iterations ago
was called you need a reality check.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
And you need to remember you can't just keep living
in the past.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Damn it. He just said, we were a little bit
better than the Raiders. I wanna go find that guy.
I'm gonna go, you know, I'm gonna go buy something
from memorabilia and sell it to them. I'm gonna rip
the cart and mailed to him and go on. I
shouldn't have said that about our guys, but he said,
are we really contenders? Are we not? Well?
Speaker 3 (36:06):
We were above five hundred and we kind of make
the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Every now and then someone someone from Pittsburgh Canna email
you and so I have a mint condition Paul canerko
rookie card for a dollar. You're gonna send them a dollar.
They're gonna send you rip card and say, oh blank,
you harmon, that's what's gonna happen. I actually kind of
hope that does. I mean, a good story, but just
you know, put the button on it. The Steelers for
years with Roethlisberger, I mean, how many years was he
(36:30):
over forty two hundred yards? And if you did a
per game basis on his yards per game, you know
when he actually played because he'd missed some games. He
missed halves of games. Oh no, Roethlisberger's done. Oh wait,
he's taking the coat off and now he's back. Wait.
You had a lot of talent passed through there, right,
pass catchers, there was a lot of talent. They were
all nuts, But you had a lot of talent passed
(36:53):
through there. And now you're in a division where you
can't keep wishing and hoping at the quarterback position. So
there's got to be a plan. Tell me you have
a plan. Exit. How about these marines are on trial
for their lives. Exit? How about a Fresca exit? Swollen dumb?
Tell me you have pin their hopes to a phone bill? Uh,
straight ahead? What team after tonight is continuing to have
(37:18):
a perfect off season? One team is very quietly throwing
a perfect game since the end of twenty twenty four.
Who is it? We'll tell you next right here, Jason
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