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Jason and Mike with all the latest on the Knicks, who are headed to their first Eastern Conference Finals in over 25 years after demolishing the Celtics. The Brockalypse is here. Plus, a visit from Knicks Insider John Schmeelk!

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Speaker 1 (00:29):
Bye Jalen Brown. Bye, see you next season. Jalen see you,
Jalen Brown, see you fouling out in the third corner. Bye, goodbye.
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(01:20):
I could just listen to this for a second. Two
minutes to go in the third quarter, the party is
underway at MSG the Knicks lead the Celtice. I should
say it like Marv Albert does. The Knicks leave the
Celtics eighty nine to fifty one with a minute fifty
seven left to go in the third quarter. Uh, it

(01:43):
has been all Knicks from the jump. Make it ninety
two fifty one. After an og anunobi III, I think
Joe Mizuula is gonna call time out and they're all
gonna leave. I think the celt just gonna leave and
it's just gonna be a big party. Michael Straighthan is excited.
This is the look at stuffog you got, you got
Marbury there, this is this is a party, Mike Harmon.

(02:05):
It is an absolute party. But you're gonna be the
disapproving girlfriend with the coat over her arms going we
can leave whenever you want to. I know you're having fun,
but we can leave whenever you want to. You're gonna
play that role tonight. I can already tell. I can
already tell, just by your countenance, just by the way
you are, just by You're gonna be that. I'm ready
to leave I didn't want to go to this party
at all. I'm ready to go home.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
This is where you have your kid who's hopped up
on sugar and you let them run around hoping that
at some point they just fall out napping. That's where
I'm at right now, because I have already had forty
minutes of this, yeah, leading into the start of the show.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Huh.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
And I've said for a very long time there's a
jealousy to a point of your fandom, okay, and we've
tipped past that jealousy of the excitement. Okay, Judy, shut.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Up, Okay, alright, I'm not happy when your teams get,
you know, the little success they have, so im I
thought you'd be happy for me. But okay, to a
point where, because you're screaming at at the Dave, they're
going to win to go to the Eastern Conference Finals
for the first time since I was in my thirties. Yeah,

(03:13):
but that was presumptive when we got to halftime when
Kendrick Perkins said they need to find Jesus to play
the second half. That's what he said about the Celtics.
They're like any closing thought, get Perk. It's like, you know,
what they need. And there's a pause, and you know,
everybody on sets looking at him, nervous what he's gonna say.
To find Jesus, he said they'd go on a diet

(03:33):
if the Knicks blew the lead. They would go on
a diet. If the Knicks blew this lead at halftime
and they have grown it out. Yeah, it is a
forty one point Nick lead, now ninety two to fifty
one with just under a minute half to go with
the third quarter. Bird and Michale are ready to check
in for the Celtics in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
I don't even think they would. They don't want any
minutes of this. This is where you go find uh
what was that guy's?

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (03:58):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Three? Dino Raja and guys like that. We start bringing
those guys in or to get some minutes.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
But like Jalen Brown did what Nikola Jokic did the
other night, except this is an elimination game and he
tapped out.

Speaker 5 (04:12):
Porzingis is sick.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
I can't make any jokes about him sitting because I
have no idea what's going on there. I hope he
finds whatever solution he needs in the offseason. He's ready
for twenty twenty five. But this is a gutless effort, right,
You're down six to start the second quarter. You score
four points in the first half of the second quarter,

(04:34):
and then it's like you wave the white flag.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Effort. Plays are non existent. You're seeing reaching falls, just
sloppy play. It's like no sense of urgency whatsoever. It's like,
all right, we're down twenty five, what are we gonna do.
Let's run the shot clock down to two. And then
you're still contesting every shot, because I mean, that's the
celebration of what the Knicks have been here. They smelled

(04:58):
the blood in the water like any shark movie and
attack the hell out of this squad. So I give
full credit to whatever Thibodeau said. It pregame whatever they needed.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
In the fuel of the New York media to go
finish this thing off, because they never let the Celtics
get a quarter breadth, no once. Once it really started
to get out of hand in the middle of that
second one. Look, and this is why I told you
all week when I can't no one believe me when
I said I'm fine they lose Game five. I told

(05:28):
you we're gonna lose Game five. We're gonna show up
and kind of play, all right, well kind of play
if the game is there, maybe they try to close
in the second half, but it wasn't there. Brunson fouls
out of the game five thousand and one quarter, Karl
Anthony Townsend foul trouble.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
I said, Okay, this is how it's gonna go. But
it's gonna be a different story on Friday night. What
if I said the last two days, Hey, Friday night,
I'm going to the Eastern Conference Finals for the first
time in twenty two years. I was absolutely fine because
I knew this was the next team we were gonna
see on Friday. Bad feeling about Wednesday. I knew it
was gonna Hey, okay, we're not gonna get Rick Buker

(06:03):
had a great comment on that with us the other night, saying, hey,
there's lots of teams in the NBA that come in
to close out type games like the Knicks did, and
and you know, like we've seen in the playoffs elsewhere
as well, where it's been, Hey, we know we're not
going to get the calls, and if the calls go
against you in the beginning of the game at Sea,
we're not getting him let's put it away for the
next game. And that's kind of what the Knicks. Didn't

(06:23):
we see that it's not just the next thing to
do that strategy. Sure, and I toold it, but tonight
was gonna be different. It was going to be physical,
and it was going to be a Karl Anthony Towns night,
and this was how it was going to go. Guys,
didn't believe. You thought I was nervous, and Frostburg's going on,
what are you gonna say in game se? We are
you saying Game seven? I knew we're never getting to
Game seven because this was going to be the game
we're going to get tonight.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
You did not predict a forty point burial and that
the Celtics would quit.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
I said, I said, when I say fifteen, last night,
I said ten to fifteen. When we met our I said, no, no,
But there's a difference between Hey, we win by ten
because down the stretch we're making free throws and finishing
the job right Jalen Bronson getting to the fallout versus
I should have said fifty. Here win by fifty. Look
in in game betting, I was laughing before it was

(07:11):
thirty thirty two.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
When you and I were sitting before we started this
soire on a big Friday night party for you. Where
it sits now, I can only uh, I can only
guess because it's it's bloomed.

Speaker 5 (07:24):
It is now at it still only thirty three.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
If you really want to go that, that's basically saying
the Knicks are going to quit and start sipping wine.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
Fourth quarter something like that.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
They're they're relegated, they have to take half court shots
or whatever the case may be. But you know you're officiating.
Thing from the other night rings true, and there are
a number of times where it's just like, really, that's
that's a continuation fall.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
Again, it's a thirty point game, so who the hell
cares thirty five? But at the time it was thirty five.
Karl Anthony Towns gets falled quite clearly. Al Horford bangs
and three feet off of this spot and then he goes, ah,
forget it, I'll take the extra step and throw the
ball up, all right, and one it's like what are
we doing? So again the officiating issue, but by that

(08:11):
point it's long gone. I mean, Jalen Brown tapped out,
so all of the talk and we heard this got
really loud about what a better effort they get when
Jason Tatum isn't there. Just just hang up your microphones,
just quit. You know, the record is not always indicative
of what you're gonna get, and you can do things

(08:31):
for one game.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
We've seen that time and time again in playoffs. We've
seen it in the regular season, the heavy underdogs that
can come up no matter the sport, and certainly in
the NBA, as you alluded to, the all right, it's
really not coming together for us. We'll live to see
another day.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
There's no reason to play another twenty labor and you know,
laborious minutes when we've got a game two days. Hence,
look at what I did there? Yeah, I went on
Dictionary and Literary World. But like when you only play
five or six guys, why play them? And actually twenty
minutes when you're done? So that strategy the other day
certainly comes to bear. But from Missoula and Company, like

(09:12):
when when exactly need you quit? Like that's the first
question I would ask him in the post thing would
you quit? The Knicks? Where the Knicks have been playing tonight,
they're playing with a twenty five point lead, like the
game is tied. There's been no let up. There's been
no open shots for the Celtics because the Knicks have decided,
hey we're up by twenty six and everything is fine.
There's been no running around defensively. It has been there

(09:34):
playing this game. Like in fact, you would think the Knicks,
if they win this game, would be winning the NBA Finals.
The way that the Knicks are playing, the way fans
are responding, we will be going to the Eastern You
still have two more rounds to finish, but eight more wins.
But hey, we're going to the Eastern Conference finals. And
the party is like we're winning it all, like that's
what it is. But that's okay, But that's party, like

(09:55):
that time watching that that connection right and you know
me I.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
One of the mantras of the show is the love
of live events because very few places in the world
you have energy and agreement of what's going on and
the energy going in the same spot. So the fans
feeding off the effort, the players feeding back off the fans,
and that frenzy. You know, every shot is contested. There's
no way, all right, I missed the assignment. It's like no,

(10:21):
they're still cursing at each other. You had a play
down low where Jalen Brown loses the ball and it
gets tapped and eventually goes off his leg. They were
up thirty five and they immediately three guys are signaling
the Thibbadeau to challenge it, which they did and they
won the challenge. It's that kind of thing. Look, I'm
not saying I don't love it. I just I just
have a headache. Look the nick they came out for blood.

(10:43):
They came out for blood, and it's a party, right,
That's That's exactly what.

Speaker 5 (10:46):
May Shalom has been shown ninety seven times.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Spike Lee doesn't have to accost the referee chasing him
down the court.

Speaker 5 (10:55):
He's just sitting there.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
No, doesn't he's got He's gott He's passed because he's
got no role the night we don't need. Coach Spikes
is just like as happy as he should be when
they show them.

Speaker 5 (11:04):
He's like, I wanted a contested game.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
What do you got, Frostburg.

Speaker 6 (11:09):
I mean, this game is so out of hand that
the Necks have just rolled out four players to play
four on five. They're going with my team is on
the court, and one of them is Clyde Fraser and
Ben Stiller, Stefan Marbury and bad Bunny.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
I think we had done. We probably were winning by
thirty three right now, going by twenty five, Uh, we're
going so now all right now, I guess twenty eight
and a half is gone to an aff kicking on Wednesday.
This is very poor Frostburg. So now are you going
to be because you're with Obviously we celebrate your So
that's where it ends. It doesn't just end after the game.

(11:44):
It's you'll celebrate the ends after tonight at eleven o
one eleven when you go to give him DAPs help
you in the face. Okay, all right, that's and the
duel will come in. So the celebration is tonight. Who
cares about tomorrow? Celebration tonight, and it's go Indy, go
Inde go all right. Bill Bradley is at the game. Yeah,
I haven't seen Bill Bradley. I really thought you were

(12:07):
gonna start singing. We've got tonight, we who need tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (12:10):
I'm doing a little bats making last babe.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Ten minutes to go in the fourth quarter, the Knicks
lead the Celtics ninety six to sixty two. We will
begin our Knicks Pacers Eastern Conference Finals preview coming up
a little bit as we'll have more on this game
as the party tonight is going to be off the hook.
We've already ordered pizza. We had all kinds of pizza
and wings coming. It is a Knicks party Friday. But

(12:36):
coming up next as we continue to track the biggest
game of the night, all as freely all the time,
maybe the biggest game all year. Coming up next, Do
we have an NFL story coming your way? Because somebody
really got paid? Go New York, go, New York goes
And when does Tatum come in? Wow? In the next time,

(12:59):
next to next the official time out? You know what,
he would have at least wheeled himself around and give
you an effort. Actually, Tatum O'Neill is coming in. That's
who's coming about that? Shack's brother and TJ click. You
know you ruin, you ruin my bad news bears line tysher,
you know that you're about to win? All right?

Speaker 5 (13:19):
Yeah, it's nothing he says or plays.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
He can play.

Speaker 5 (13:22):
Everybody wants to rule the world forty five times.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
In a run.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
I don't care. Yeah whatever, that doesn't matter. That's counts
could get killed by the Yankees. Oh there was no
baseball ton I don't care. I don't care. I have
bigger fish to Friday night than that, Right, I'll worry
about it. I'll worry about the Mets and the Yankees tomorrow.
That's fine. Bigger fish tonight. First time in twenty two years,
we're going to the Eastern Conference Finals. Okay, it's all good.

(13:47):
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Speaker 2 (14:48):
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Speaker 1 (15:00):
It's like we're counting down to New Year. All the
shots outside Madison Square Garden. Everybody's cheering. Hey, the ball
is dropping. The ball is dropped.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
What do you think the security cost is across the
city of New York?

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Oh man, You know, not a great night to start
the subway series with the Mets. And then you want
to talk about overtime being put in for by police
and first responders.

Speaker 5 (15:25):
Hey, I've been retired six years. Look I need you
for three nights.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
We got the baseball series that got whatever the hell
goes on with the Knicks eight and a half to
go in the fourth quarter. The Knicks lead the Celtics
one oh four to sixty eight. Ac Earl has checked
in for the Celtics. I think you're think it's my guy.
All I want to show all the love I can
all the obscure Celtics from like the early two thousands

(15:51):
and the late nineties when they were done winning and
it was hey, we're trying to make it work with
Dee Brown, all right, let's go. Yeah, good times those
late nineties trading cards are like, wow, look at those Celtics.
And then you eventually got to Antoine Walker. Oh yeah,
we'll got to.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
Yeah, we'll get to eventually you got to. But yeah, no,
you had a number of years with Finn Baker.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
Yeah, sure, sure, sure, sure, yeah we'll get that. We'll
get that. Then Baker is one of my heroes though.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
I mean the amount of money that guy made and
then in his post career, I mean he did he
did well.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
It is a It's going to be a Knicks final
four in the NBA. I just think about this for
a second. In the final four of the NBA, it's
going to be the Knicks. The Pacers who are synonymous
with the Knicks. It's like they're the Washington Generals for
the Knicks that last year when they won. But we
got a little something something for you already, don't worry
about it. So the Knicks and Pacers are synonymous. Then
in the West is Devincenzo and Julius Randall. Okay, Nicks

(16:48):
up until last year part of their run, and probably Hartenstein.
So okay. So now we are just claiming every all
Knicks Final four. It's like it's a very It's like
a Hallmark movie. It's a very Nicks Christmas Very Knicks
Final four. How many times did they show that Villanova
commercial tonight? Oh lots, lots. Did that guy to have
the heavy rotation for this one? Because it was a

(17:10):
Nick celebration. Yeah, it's been a celebration since halftime. It's
been a this is I told you tonight was going
to be a party. Yeah. In the middle of that
second quarter, five point fifty five left in the second
quarters when the Celtics finally scored their third basket of
the quarter, seventeen for the quarter, and that was it.

(17:31):
Why I said I was cool. I got to halftime
and like, what do we talk about? This game sucks?

Speaker 2 (17:37):
So we'll have more on.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
The greatest sporting event in the last five years coming
up in a bag. No, dude, I have no time
for that tonight, I have bigger I have. I'm going
to the I'm going to the Eastern Conference Finals for
the first time in twenty two No, no, no, I mean
I got bigger fish.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
Yesterday we had the guys strike out Otani and then
just take the ball. I mean, come on, that was
a big I think bobblehead night when he hit two
home runs. I did not watch one second of the
Mets and the Yankees, not one second. And you know,
Mitt the Mets, I've not watched one lying because of that,
because you know what, he he didn't have the TVs

(18:11):
changed in the back though. I mean we were here
in an hour in the game telling.

Speaker 6 (18:15):
Me you didn't ausk for thirty seconds of a long
time when Soto came out there.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
For no, no, I didn't. What not, I didn't fifteen one.

Speaker 5 (18:22):
He would have been in his car for part of it.
That would have gotten weird.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
Not one second. I mean I did see him, you know,
you know, tip his cap to the crowd. Uh him. Yeah,
that's okay, that's fine, that's great. I will worry about
that tomorrow. That's a sixth to your final as my
uh as my high school jim teacher, mister Williams used
to say, that's a story for another day. There's a
different story tonight, one ten seventy four with six minutes

(18:45):
left to go. But we'll have more on the Nicks
and the Celtics. However, big story from the NFL today, Right,
we thought the Broncolypse was coming, all the different stories
we had leaping up to it, and the Brocolypse is here.
Brock Party in the forty nine ers agree to a
five year, two hundred and sixty five million dollar contract,

(19:06):
one hundred and eighty one million dollars in overall guaranteed money.
That is a fifty five million dollar a year average
for brock Purty, who will likely see all of this money.
Being his fourth year in the league, young enough, he's
gonna and look, at some point it will seem like
a bargain year, three year four. You know, Perty's only
getting fifty five million dollars. So Perdy gets paid. We

(19:28):
thought it was coming, and it's here. And there's two
big things I can tell you. Why did Perdy get paid?
Why did he get paid this kind of money when
he has been a good quarterback? Right, he's been good?
Has he been a top quarterback in the league. No,
but he's been good, right. He had a really good
promise his first year in a little bit more than
half a year, had a really good second year, got

(19:49):
to the super Bowl. Not a good third year, right
when the when the weapons got hurt and he didn't
have as many the forty nine ers weren't very good. Right,
So that that's his year, Budge. Generally how things work
in the NFL, though, if your weapons are no good,
But if you're an elite quarterback, if you're Josh Allen,
it doesn't matter if you're throwing the Stefon Diggs or
if you're throwing two Quandre Diggs. Doesn't that.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
But there's always going to be a gap between guy
one and two and the next ten.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Yeah, but but there's gonna be players that make other
players better, that are good no matter who they're throwing to.
And then there's players who are good when they have
a lot of weapons around them. I've played two thirds
of his passes. It was twenty and twelve with a
ninety six rating. Like all the things, all the metrics
we want to do, I don't know. Yeah, twenty and twelve,
is that fifty five million dollars a year. Well, that

(20:34):
was Matthew Stafford last year. But I'll tell you, I'll
tell you who's twenty in twelve. Yeah, okay, But also
the Rams got within a hair's breadth of the Super Bowl.
So there is that where the Niners were sitting and
they say, and they had it packed in beginning of December.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
Set if we're going to do that, you did the
stat things, so twenty and twelve is not fifty five.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
You want to lean a little bit more well, and
also talking about a guy that won a Super Bowl,
that's been to a couple of super bowl you know,
Matthew Stafford's kind of had a good one in the
last year. And last year he was much better the
second half a year than Broughck perty was and he
nearly got his team to the Super Bowl and his
guys and they were playing well down the streets.

Speaker 7 (21:07):
You want to.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Argue with me about something that I'm not arguing with
you about. I'm saying brock Purdy is pretty good. I
don't know what. Why? Why are you just mad that
the Knicks are winning?

Speaker 5 (21:16):
Brought up his stats and dis man so I.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
Brought up a stats. Is that a great year? Is
twenty and twelve a great year?

Speaker 7 (21:22):
No?

Speaker 1 (21:22):
Is it a good year? Yes? Did I say it
was a good year. It's a good year. It's a
good year. The next are winning. I'm sorry, I'm sorry
the Knicks are winning, but they're winning. I said it
was a good year. It's a good year. He got
He played pretty well. He's a good quarterback. Why did
he get paid? He got paid. A lot of reasons
is because of where he came from in the draft.
He's mister irrelevant, right, so when he comes in all

(21:43):
of a sudden, it looks like you got really lucky.
And I'm sure the Niners have had to hear and
John Lynch has had to hear the last few Boy,
look how lucky we got. They know we got lucky.
We drafted a guy that we didn't even know if
he was going to make the team, and here he
is now potentially our franchise quarterback who got us to
a Super Bowl and young and suddenly is someone that
we didn't have to spend a big high draft pick on.

(22:05):
We got really lucky, and we can't let the lucky
guys leave, because, boy, if you if you got lucky
on a guy and let him leave. What does that
tell you? Now, flip this around, if instead of being
mister Irrelevant, brock Purty was taking third overall in the
draft like Trey Lance, what would people be saying? What
would be his contract situation? Are you ready to give?
Are they ready to give brock Purty fifty five million

(22:27):
dollars a year with the number three overall pick in
the draft and what he's done so far? Instead, it's more, eh,
maybe we'll figure out something, maybe we'll franchise you something else.
But he's not getting fifty five million because the pedigree
of him coming into the league. The team would expect more,
and the city would expect more, the fans would expect more,
and the whole push behind why the universal love for

(22:50):
brock Purdy is out there wouldn't quite be what it
is because he seems like he's a lucky fine so
let we have to reward him and keep him. Whereas
if he was a number three overall pick, it would be, yeah,
he's been good, But is he a guy we want
to commit to? Is he really? When you come with
that high a pedigree, there's gonna be a different way
you're looked at Now. It shouldn't matter because once you
get into the NFL, you get to the NFL and

(23:11):
it's okay, Well, it doesn't matter if a guy was
taking three overall or mister irrelevant. What you do on
the field is what matters. But because of where he
came from and where he could have been, there's a
completely different outlook for his career. And part of the
reason why he got paid is because he was he
was a lucky find. He was he was a he
was a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.
That's what and that's part of the reason why Perdy

(23:33):
got this fifty five million dollars deal.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
At some level, you could go to the we've we've
been able to underpay for several years, so you're owed
because we certainly see those deals back end of negotiations,
go back to Kobe's final deal and so many others
where you're like, is that guy really should he be
getting this money? He's like, well, he's worth more than
what he is doing necessarily on the court. Right when
you look at what he guys are to an organization

(23:57):
for perty, you're also looking at the larger quarterback landscape
where he is whether whether he can be great again
as you reset the offense. Right, a lot of those
guys are gone. You're hoping Christian McCaffrey comes back. You're
hoping George Kittle is the guy he was the second
half at some point father time gets him too, right,
or wrestling or he becomes a wrestler or the other one.

(24:19):
But I mean, are you Debo's gone? Like you know,
you've got all these moving parts. Yeah, Jennings came up
big for them. So you're hopeful that, all right, a
year of health whatever you reconstitute that offensive line that
you trust your brain, your brain trust that you're going
to be able to make him that guy he was

(24:40):
two years ago. If all the component parts are there,
and the quarterback landscape, look at look at what it's
a mess, right, we can say all we want, all right,
next year's draft class looks good, all right in theory,
and guys can't take shots in theory. But we've done
that how many times? Right, and even brought with rock
per He's class a bunch of guys that never made

(25:03):
a damn bit.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
Of a move movement in the NFL. So you found
the lucky penny, as you like to say.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
So, Yeah, there's a there's a little bit of that
of of hey, now the expectation, but once you start playing. Yeah,
I mean we've heard for two years. Should they paid
brock Purty. That's been a very hot debated topic, certainly
in the world of sports TV and radio.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
And I look around and like, where.

Speaker 5 (25:29):
Where do you place him?

Speaker 3 (25:29):
He's still top ten, top twelve guy, Right, he's getting
paid a seventh just because he's the next man up.

Speaker 5 (25:35):
Yeah, look right, It's.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
All about timing. And that's and that's the other reason
why did Perdy get paid? Because we're starting to ask
the wrong questions when a quarterback gets paid fifty who
deserves fifty million? Fifty five million? Because that's a big
way brock Purty deserved this money. I can give you
a better answer than that, because I'll tell you it
doesn't matter if you think he deserves the money or
he doesn't. When a team, teams know that it is

(26:00):
miserable without a quarterback, they know life is absolutely miserable
because they see the teams that every year try to
churn through and try to find a quarterback. Jets have
been trying to find a quarterback for thirty years. Like
when you find a guy who all he's got to
do is be a periphery top fifteen quarterback, right like party,
you know Purty is he at his best, He's a

(26:20):
periphery top ten, probably more of a twelve or fifteen,
but he's someone that is good enough you can win
with him, and he doesn't need to be replaced. And
when teams have a quarterback like that, now we're gonna
keep him. We're gonna give him what we need to
because A, it's a quarterback and B it's miserable with
that are we gonna do better if we let him go?

(26:42):
This is why Trevor Lawrence got fifty five million, tremendously overpaid,
because the Jaguars way, we took him high, and boy,
things could always be worse even though he's not that great.
Why did Gino Smith get a three year extension with
the Raiders? They've been living. They know what life is
like without a quarterback. So let's take a guy who
probably is, you know, a league average, maybe a heiny
bit more than league average at his best. This is

(27:02):
why guys get these extensions, because they know how miserable
life is. So it doesn't it's not that a guy
needs to be a top seven, top eight guy to
get paiding more. It's just if you're a top fifteen
quarterback or someone we don't feel the need to replace,
we're gonna give you a lot of money because we
know how miserable life is without a quarterback. Those two reasons,
that's why I brought perty got paid. Well, you're the

(27:23):
guy in the room.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
So you know, in the case of the Jaguars, it's
a have we failed this guy and we don't want
him to go be successful somewhere else. Right, he was
supposed to be the chosen one, right, We laugh about it.
Use the Star Wars line all the time. Generational guy.
That's what he was coming out of college. Didn't they
do him right?

Speaker 1 (27:40):
Right? Go back to Urban Mile.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
If you admire and everything that went down there. If
you're shot Cohn or you're sitting there and you're making
the evalue, it's like, well, can we give him one
more shot? Try to put some talent around him, and
maybe it works, right, you make the big swing, you
go get a big star to come alongside, and maybe
he gets juice from that. But you know, for the

(28:03):
forty nine ers, they're one of the few teams where
you say organizational stability is something that they come to
the table with with the luxury of all right, we've.

Speaker 5 (28:11):
Watched Brock succeed.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
What are the things that have made him successful in
the past, and just owing it to star power is fine?

Speaker 1 (28:19):
All right? Ayuk has been good, degrade at times, debo
when utilized properly. Before he started carrying the ball eight
times a game and getting broken in half, it got cute, right,
it works two times a game.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
Hey, you know what if we did it five times
a game would be even better. Oh wait, he's not
eligible to play these last couple of games. The doctors
won't clear him.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
Damn it.

Speaker 5 (28:41):
Maybe we went too far.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
But all of that and banking on McCaffrey's legs for
another year with the amount of usage, but all of
that to say you believe that with the right structure
and right players, that Brock perty's that guy. Why go
searching in the wasteland that is free agency or the
roll of the dice of the draft. You did that
with Trey Lance. Yeah you remember that that didn't work?

Speaker 1 (29:05):
Yeah, I mean, look, and then because that's that's you know,
go to go back to my first point about getting
you know, taking you know, and making sure you pay
brought party. Also, that gets into that, Okay, well we
got lucky getting the guy, and we spent the third
overall pick. We traded up to get this guy, and
Trey Lance gave them nothing. So that's more pressure to say,
we really got to keep Purty because we thought we

(29:27):
had the quarterback position right for the next decade. And
the guyst even on the team anymore. So that's more
of the pressure of we gotta keep Purty. It's look there,
you're in a perfect spot right now. If you're a
quarterback and you can be a league average guy, you're
gonna get paid, and you're gonna get paid a lot.
You're gonna get forty fifty million dollars a year. That
that's how it's three years ago was you're really good,
you'll get twenty five million year. But now we have

(29:48):
double bat in the last three years. That's it.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
The escalation of the salary. There, wide receivers, cornerbacks, you
name it, all the way through down to your edge rushers.
Making it what I say, I need to protect sure,
I need an attacker, I needed passer.

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(30:25):
she's had a long day and is ready to go home.
It's Montys. I mean I have had a long day.
I'm not ready to go home just yet.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
But that is That was good.

Speaker 8 (30:37):
That made me laugh.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (30:38):
It was all Nicks total domination from start to finish
against the Celtics. One nineteen to eighty one was the
final score. All five of New York's starters ended in
double digits, but Jalen Brunson, Karl Anthony Towns, og Onnobi,
and mckel bridges all ended with twenty or more points.
Jalen Brown, fouled out late in the third quarter for Boston,
ended with twenty and was the leading scorer for the Celtics.

Speaker 5 (31:00):
So the Knicks are gonna face.

Speaker 8 (31:02):
Indiana on Wednesday in Game one of the Eastern Conference Finals.
Congratulations to you.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Thank you go New York, New York Go.

Speaker 8 (31:12):
On another NBA news, Nuggets bard Aaron Gordon has been
diagnosed with the left hamstring strain and his status is
in doubt according to ESPN. For Game seven against the
Oklahoma City Thunder, which is on Sunday. In the NHL,
the Maple Leaves kept their season alive.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Lease Corral get it out at setter, brought to the
line and hard to the Neti paccheratte Go fuck paccharatte
pounded home at a deflection on a great player to
the front of the net. The Lates lead and they
hold on.

Speaker 8 (31:47):
They beat the Panthers in game six to zero, so
they're headed to a game seven. And they were scoreless
up until the last ten minutes of the third period
and the Maple Leaves pull it out. They stay alive
in the NHL playoffs. In baseball, the Pirates are now
on top of the Phillies, saying thanks to a three
run shot from Alexander Canadio, it's three to one against

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the Phillies.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
Bottom of the seventh inning.

Speaker 8 (32:11):
Bottom of the ninth inning, with the Cardinals on top
of the Royals ten to three after seven innings, the
Astros are beating the Rangers six to two. The Twins,
who have won eleven in a row, trying to make
it twelve. Right now, they're shutting out the Brewers three zero,
and they're about to start the bottom of the ninth inning.
In Milwaukee, the Diamondbacks on the scoreboard first against the Rockies, three.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
Zero, top of the fourth inning.

Speaker 8 (32:31):
The Mariners also on top of the Padres, three zero,
bottom of the fourth Angels on the scoreboard first against
the Dodgers in the freeway series, to zero, bottom of
the second inning.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
The Yankees did defeat the Meds six to two.

Speaker 8 (32:43):
Aaron Judges batting four fourteen Aaron Judge, he was two
of four and today's win Juan Soto wins zero for
two with two walks in the loss.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
The Tigers held on five to four against the Blue Jays.

Speaker 8 (32:54):
Detroit is the first team to reach thirty wins.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
Back to you, guys, thanks a bunch, Yes Smith Mike
Harmon live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Coming up next,
we'll break down what we saw and I already have
my first fearless prediction for the Conference Finals. It's next
right here, Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific, Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon Live from the
Fox Sports Radio Studios. It is over in New York.
It has been over for a couple of hours. But
it was a party, the biggest party MSG has seen.
There were more. I think there were more stars at
the game they showed in the final five minutes than

(33:46):
I think at a Hollywood premiere.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
Well, I think they all realized they were going to
get massive screen time in the final minutes because there
was nothing else really going on once you got back
into the second.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
Halves, like, all right, who else is here?

Speaker 3 (33:58):
If you were sitting in Rod thirty seve, yeah, they
showed you if you got an opportunity to be on
screen in a row.

Speaker 5 (34:03):
Who's that guy?

Speaker 1 (34:04):
He was the fifth lead of some movie from nineteen
ninety seven, But he's here tonight. He was He was
in season four of Sons of Anarchy. He played a guy.

Speaker 5 (34:15):
Uh, it was a third gang member. Can tell you
this a second.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
I got a real quick story for we do play
the day. I found out yesterday that one of Zoe's
teammates on her softball team. Her dad's an actor and
was in Sons of Anarchy. No kidding was what had
a pretty big role in one season. I was like,
oh my goodause because Pam goes because doesn't he look
like I said, yes, Oh my god. He ran the

(34:40):
one Niners. He ran the one Niners after they killed
le Roy sorry spoiler he killed me. He ran the
one Niners. I was like, oh my god, I'm like,
I want to go say something to him, like, hey,
how's the one Niners doing. I was like, oh my good.
I'm like, he ran the one Niners.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
Gotta be careful though, who I mean, you've had incidents,
you know, yeah, urinals in other places that sometimes could
get out of sorts.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
Yeah, no, No.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
I met Bruce Willis at a year at All and
it was, you know, it was a little weird. It's
a little weird. Started quoting or what.

Speaker 5 (35:09):
You'd be Kay, did you every redo moonlighting?

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(35:35):
so many plays we could choose from. But how about
this when even the most staunchest of diehard Celtics fans
had to realize, Okay, it's over for us. When you
bury the Celtics, you get to be the play of
the day.

Speaker 9 (35:48):
Pam gets the rebound with the shot clock turned off.
If you want to knock off the champions, you have
to play like champions.

Speaker 7 (35:57):
And the Knicks did that tonight.

Speaker 9 (35:59):
What nineteen eighty one away and the outcome that no
one in the NBA saw coming aside for the New
York Knicks themselves Nicks and six and they're on their
way to the Eastern Conference Finals for the first time
at twenty five years.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
Oh, that's even better than Deuce McBride shot at the
end of the first half. There's your final call, Knicks
Radio Network, The Knicks going on. They go to the
conference finals every twenty five years, whether you like it
or not, Mike Harmon.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
No, God, bless, I love the way they play Thibodeau
not getting fired. See there you go and everything us
and now he's the hero of the New York.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
He's the gig in New York.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
Again. I'm the king and he was the You. If
you didn't know anything about the game, they had the
scoreboard off and they showed you just watched the fourth
quarter and you spent most of the time watching TIBs,
you would say, are the Knicks losing by twenty? I mean,
are the Knicks are we have to go to Game
seven against the Celtics on Sunday because no matter what
they're up, Forty still got my arms fall. It's almost

(36:59):
like he's got his arms crazy glued, so he doesn't
have to hold his arms up like it's crazy glued
together with his arms folded.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
Is he found that that's less stress on his shoulders
in that position, I think it would be on his
back and he's not you know, slump slumping over.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
Yeah, I could do. That would have helped Phil Jackson.
Was Phil getting out of that chair? I tell you.

Speaker 5 (37:20):
But but your you're POINTLATIVEEO.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
I mean it is key right because on the broadcast
and you and I just sitting there It's like we
remember Games one and two, huge leads loss from from Boston.
Now again they they beat the snot on him. It's
the uh, the bine line. I didn't know whether it
was gonna quit first, your spirit or your body. Uh
And and well here was both because I mean it

(37:43):
was a merciless transaction. But you got that call, and
so many people had left to go party in the streets.
You had the individual voices coming through. It's been it's
been a party since the middle of the second quarter
for the Knicks, who were in the conference finals. And
I'll tell you this right right away what I've been
saying all along. Yeah, see you in a few days. Indiana,

(38:05):
got a little something something for you. Off for last year.
Nixon four, care for what you wish, you're particular. Don't
have a choice. I don't have a choice. We're playing
the Pacers. Rick Carlisle is already complaining about the officiating.
You can just do already out he's already upset. Well,
we're better than the Pacers. We're better than they are.
You were last year and then everybody got hurt. You
know who we finished. We finished the year. Mark Jackson

(38:26):
was playing point guard for us. He was actually joyer celebration.
He was this next week he was calling the game
and playing point guard for the Knicks. He was doing
both at the end of the year last Mark Jackson reference. Yeah,
I mean it, Rick Carlo. I'm sure Rick Carlo is
having a press conference now. I really really helped the
officiating gets a call. I helped the big market teams
don't get the benefit of the doubt like they tend

(38:48):
to because all the because all the calls and nicks
have been getting the last twenty five years in the playoffs, Yes,
all of them. I'm sure he's complaining about it now.
Which who's the more allegiant to Mark Jackson? I mean
he has route, he's got, you know, ties to bowl.
Does he hate the Knicks because everybody's on board that
bandwagen so he can jump on the other side. I

(39:09):
think everybody who was once it's like, what the Knicks
are one of those teams where once a nick, always
a nick, for for good or bad. Right, Once a nick,
always a nick, and so you know he's a nick
every They're all ex make sure Jr. Smith is a nick.
You saw the video he put out the other night
when the Knicks went up to nothing on the Celtics.
If you played, if you walked onto the arena wearing

(39:29):
a Knick's hat, you're a Nick Jr. Smith in that video,
watching it and reacting was making sounds I didn't think
were human. The squeakiness, pitchiness, whatever, it got weird, it
really did. It's like is he stepping on a cat?
Everybody gets excited. It's exciting.

Speaker 5 (39:49):
Oh look, I aspired to that.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
I'm actually responding to folks on Twitter going, ah, you know,
it's not insufferable.

Speaker 5 (39:54):
I aspire to that level of energy and excitement. I
don't have it. I'm chronicling all the winds in my life.
Guess what.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
They always end in fives and none of them in
twenty twenty five. Listen, you had a long time, you
had a pope that could have a squashed the Caleb
Williams hate Chicago story. B got you the number one
pick in the draft. And the pope doesn't either of
those things.

Speaker 5 (40:15):
But he didn't do this. No, which is a more
Catholic city, Boston?

Speaker 1 (40:20):
Oh, you know, Irish or everywhere?

Speaker 5 (40:21):
I banded them the Irish, you abandoned the Ie banded
them in the abandon the Boston.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
Catholics banded the Irish in their.

Speaker 5 (40:30):
Daddy let the Knicks. Not only did they win, they
rolled right over him and.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
He did nothing to stop it. Oh you're like, you're
like Delroy Lindo and Sinner's excited to get the Irish
beer from Chicago.

Speaker 5 (40:42):
Right well, as soon as he says what it is?

Speaker 3 (40:45):
I mean, come on, how excited for you when you
saw Delroy Lindo pop up.

Speaker 5 (40:50):
From that harmonica And I didn't know he was in it.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
I didn't know he was in it was.

Speaker 5 (40:53):
In See, I didn't spoil those for you.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
Oh you got a bad pope man, all of ausly,
he went from the toast of the town. He's a
bad pope.

Speaker 5 (40:59):
Signing grass on baseball, So you Knicks.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
In four, we have more on this game and more
in another big story out of the NBA coming up next.
What is Michael Jordan gonna be doing for NBC? We
think we know? This is Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Speaker 1 (41:29):
I can relax. The Knicks are in the finals. Relax
for a few days until Wednesday night. I can relax
and worry about the Mets in the Subway Series. Relax,
the Knicks are in there. We're gonna sweep the Pacers.
Conference finals. Finals, doesn't matter. Finals. It's like a finals

(41:51):
is there. It's like Andy Bernard when they say, hey,
how is management? How is anger management training? He goes, well,
management training? Oh, okay, okay. The Knicks are in the
East Finals. They will take on the Pacers after their
burial of the Celtics tonight. Joining us now from outside
of Madison Square Garden at the top of a light

(42:13):
pole because Knicks fans is celebrating like they won the
finals tonight. Nicks insider John Schmielkey is on Twitter at Shmilk,
longtime friend of the show. How you doing man? You
sent me that picture of you at the game. I
can imagine it must have just been an entire party
since midway through the second quarter.

Speaker 7 (42:31):
Heere, I just drove through the Lincoln Tunnel. I did
not need my car to get home. I could have
floated home or flown home. I just don't want to
have to go back into the city tomorrow morning to
get my car. So this is just convenience.

Speaker 4 (42:44):
I could have lumped myself.

Speaker 7 (42:46):
From thirty third Street and Eighth Avenue and set my
butt back to Central New Jersey.

Speaker 4 (42:51):
Baby.

Speaker 7 (42:51):
Oh man, twel look, still work to do. Let's be
very clear about that. Still work to do. You gotta
beat the Pacers, but twenty five years is a long time.
Enjoy the stick fans.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
I'll tell you I no one believed me on the
show this week when I said, oh, they lose Game five.
I said, I'm fine, we are gonna blow the doors
off of them in game six. It's gonna be different.
It's gonna be officiated differently. The Knicks are gonna be
more physical. They're smelling blood. They kind of halfway went
for it in game five, and they all thought you
was crabbed. Oh you're just you're just trying to You're

(43:25):
trying to show us you're not nervous. I'm like, no,
we are gonna win big on Friday night, and there
we go. It happened.

Speaker 4 (43:32):
Yeah. Look, I did not think I'd be sitting there
in that building tonight and the Knicks would be leading
by forty one points in the third quarter.

Speaker 7 (43:39):
That I mean, that place for twenty four minutes of
basketball and like an hour and a half of real
time was just a party. The only thing people got
mad about is that Thibodeau wasn't taking the starter. Than
that place was absolutely lit, guys, And look, I said,
as you know, twenty five years since they've been to

(43:59):
the conference finals, that might have been the best defense
I've seen a Nick team play in twenty five years too.
They shut the Celtics down the count bridges. He raced,
Derek White, Jalen Brown sattled out in the third quarter.
It was utter domination in every facet of the game.

Speaker 5 (44:20):
At what point did the did you think the Celtics quit?

Speaker 2 (44:24):
When?

Speaker 1 (44:25):
When did the spirit leave the body?

Speaker 7 (44:28):
I think when Shireman made an appearance in the third quarter. Look,
I think it was a point at the end of
the second quarter where the Celtics I think in one
three and it looked like they were about to make
a run. And then the Knicks counted with like three
straight baskets and they're up by thirty points at a halftime.

(44:49):
The game wasn't over yet, but it was darn close.
And then you know, Celtics made a couple of shots
to start the third Knicks bounced right back. They got
a fight, you know forty and then guys, that was it,
you know it Badulla pold everyone and man, just what
a game. And again it's I don't think fans understand

(45:12):
how I mean they do, but if you'd the root
for the next how bad the last twenty five years
have been, or at least twenty the last twenty five
years watching you know, Ron Baker and Kyle O'Quinn, who
is probably one of the better guys you got to watch.

Speaker 4 (45:27):
I mean, my gosh, Alexi Sived who Nick fans were
in love with, Damian Boxon, my gosh, go through the list.
It was bad, David.

Speaker 7 (45:38):
Fizdale's regime, Larry Brown.

Speaker 4 (45:41):
Four year, my god is say it?

Speaker 7 (45:44):
Thomas it was.

Speaker 4 (45:45):
It's as bad as.

Speaker 7 (45:46):
It was the lowest of the lows. And to finally
get to see this in that building for a night,
it was a blast and it was so much fun.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
So as we look at the squad because Jason and
I were really celebrating, and I did so maybe a
little muted because my guy's been at volume. You know,
you turn into eleven on spinal tap.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
He broke the knob off John I mean's just there's
just no about it. But all of that, with the
defense still up thirty, still challenging.

Speaker 5 (46:19):
Plays, all of that is like, I like it.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
The I believe you actually said, you know, don't don't
get off their necks, and they didn't.

Speaker 7 (46:28):
They didn't, they did not lay it off. And look,
if this team can play like that defensively the rest
of this postseason, they can win an NBA championship. If
they can keep that level of intensity on defense. Hall
Ansity Towns was locked in.

Speaker 4 (46:45):
Boys.

Speaker 7 (46:46):
You do not see that very often for a non defense.
That dude was locked in. If he can play like
that for two more rounds.

Speaker 4 (46:55):
The Knicks can win a championship.

Speaker 7 (46:57):
That's not hyperbolic, that's back. That's where we're at. This
team has not played that way consistently this year. They've
been maddeningly inconsistent. But if you can bring that type
of effort defensively, you the Knicks can be NBA champions
in the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
The Knicks are here to save the playoffs, John, They're
here to save the playoffs because we got Minnesota and
maybe Oklahoma City and the Pacer. The Knicks are here
to save the playoffs.

Speaker 7 (47:25):
Wait wait, you're telling me Mike Silver doesn't want in Indiana, Minnesota, Indiana,
Oklahoma City NBA Finals. But you said not have any
luck on this planet since the u A Lottery, they
have that zero luck. They've gotten no help.

Speaker 4 (47:41):
It's time to start pulling some strengths. Baby, you're gonna
get the big market into the finals.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
Adam Silver, what well, Hey, that's it we's been. But
look at where we're at. John Listen, It's already gonna
be a Knicks Final four. It's gonna be like a
Wholemark Christmas movie because it's the Knicks and the Pacers
who are synonymus with the Knicks in the playoffs, Randall
and de Vincenzo and probably Hartnerstein. It's an entirely Knicks

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final four. It's everything we need right now.

Speaker 7 (48:10):
Look, this goes back to the nineties and Nick Pacers,
where they've kind of went back and forth, like neither
team dominated in the nineties. One year the Pacers would win,
then the Knicks would win. Well, guess what, boys.

Speaker 4 (48:23):
Payback's a bitch, hare Cult's Nick the lots of the
faces last year, Kyrie.

Speaker 7 (48:29):
Halliburn, look He's a really good player, but he is
such a perfect like sequel to Reggie Miller. He's lanky,
he's skinny, he fires threes, he's annoying, he flomps heavy.

Speaker 4 (48:45):
He's like Reggy Miller.

Speaker 7 (48:46):
Not as good, but reincarnated. This could not be. It's
just it's the nineties all over again, and it's gonna
be so much fun. But you're right, Look whoever gets
out of the West that if you're a Nick fan,
I would root for the Denver Nuggets. I want no part,
no part of the Oklahoma City Thunder. So if I'm
a Knicks fan, I root for Denver. Maybe you guys disagree,

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but look, that was a hell of an effort.

Speaker 4 (49:11):
And guys, I can't believe I'm saying that the.

Speaker 7 (49:14):
Knicks have a real chance to win an NBA title
this year. I can't believe I'm saying it on the
radio to millions of people. But them's are the facts, boys.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
And you know I love that. Well, all Knicks, like
you and I. We're all celebrating like we won the title.
They're climbing lightholes, we're all talking about who the Knicks
are going to play in the finals, and it's like
they've been to there. We gotten out of two rounds
of the playoffs that but it's like we won the
whole thing tonight.

Speaker 7 (49:39):
Hey, look like I said, that's when the first question, boys,
you ask me, and what I say, there's still work
to do. You did not put this team together to
win two rounds in the playoffs. You put the teams
together to win an NBA championship. But there's a realistic
window here. You know, the Knicks finish of the day
at home and they have a homeportant Fanta in the

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Eastern Conference title compute for a second boy, all right,
and by the way, if the Timberwls go to the finals,
you know who's gonna have the home court advantage in
the NBA Finals two.

Speaker 4 (50:11):
You're New York next. So this is real.

Speaker 7 (50:16):
There's work to do. They have to keep playing well,
but there is enjoy the series win. Plenty of work
to do. But this is real. You know, I'm always
on the poor cold water on stuff. I'm very realistic.
I've seen too much. You guys have seen too much
as Nick fans.

Speaker 4 (50:35):
It always goes wrong.

Speaker 7 (50:37):
They have a real shot here, that is real.

Speaker 3 (50:39):
I gotta ask the obvious question. First you John dn Smith,
You'll just punch me, is uh? You know, after the
euphoria wears off and you punch yourself out and you
go to sleep. How soon did the nightmares of Reggie
Miller come back?

Speaker 4 (50:53):
You think we're gonna sleep, Well, eventually you're.

Speaker 3 (50:56):
Gonna pass on. I'm not saying it's a it's a natural. Hey,
I'm going to be thing. Eventually, he's just gonna collapse somewhere.

Speaker 7 (51:03):
Hey, look, Cheery. Here's the thing about Reggie Miller. Reggie
Miller had some really awesome moments against the Knicks. The
Knicks also had some really awesome moments against Reggie Miller.
They knocked him out of the.

Speaker 4 (51:14):
Playoffs more than once.

Speaker 8 (51:16):
In the nineties.

Speaker 7 (51:16):
So yes, Reggie got the Knicks a couple of times,
and a couple of times in heartbreaking fashion. But you
know the Nicks beat to go to the NBA finals.
Four Pacers boys. So yeah, Reggie Miller. You hate him,
he's he's the worst.

Speaker 4 (51:31):
But Nick seat him, and now it's coming to beat
Tyler Barton too.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
NIX insider John Schmilkey, he's on Twitter at sch milk.
You can find him there are at the top of
any kind of light pole somewhere in the New Jersey
metropolitan area. After the win tonight, John, thanks a bunch, buddy.
We'll talk to you during the East Finals.

Speaker 7 (51:53):
All right, I'm gonna land in New Jersey.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
I'll talk guys.

Speaker 7 (51:57):
Nick the conference.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
Titles, let's go it, Nix Insider, like Nix Insider, Let's
go I mean, I mean, it was great.

Speaker 5 (52:09):
And now it's in between the.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
Going to sleep when the knickser hoists and hilario'brien trophy.
Now I realize this is a little bit of hyperbole. Okay,
it's a little bit of hyperbole because but going into
this city, you know, thinking about this the last col
and I was thinking, honestly, I was thinking about this
coming into work tonight as as I'm listening and the
Knicks are just pouring it on the Celtics and I'm beeping,

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laying on my horn, I'm banging my horn and I'm
screaming in my car up until tonight.

Speaker 5 (52:40):
Did you cause that accident that deleted me at your
twenty cars?

Speaker 1 (52:44):
You know, I did not thinking about this right in
my lifetime. Okay, Patrick Ewing has been the greatest Nick.
All Right, Hall of famer, got the Knicks to two finals,
multiple All Stars, Right, yeah, you know, failed a little bit.
I keep thinking of showing that miss in the Eastern
Conference Finals in ninety five when he just finger rolled

(53:05):
it out well fer rolls, I mean dunked the ball.
But after Kewing, Patrick Ewing generally has been viewed as
the greatest Nick. I mean Sanitysanity had those couple of
weeks he had. He had a few weeks that was good.
He didn't make it his number two. He didn't even
make it to the end of the season. I realized
this is now the first time that Brunson has even
gotten the Knicks as far as the Eastern Conference finals.

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But you know, thinking back, you know, hey, Ewing brought
the Knicks out of absolute obscurity.

Speaker 5 (53:33):
They were terrible for so long. Bent up envelope showed up.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
It wasn't bent. It was cold. Okay, just it wasn't bent.
It wasn't the envelope cold. It was cold. It was cold.
It was really really cold. I can't touch this, but uh,
quite honestly, now, if US Knicks fans who's the greatest
Nick of all time, they'll all tell you. Jalen Brunson
a little bit prisoner of the moment, but also a
little bit of the Knicks and bringing the big Knicks

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back from obscurity over the last years when they had
all kinds of stars come in to try to do
it right that all kinds of stars come in. Look,
can we do it? Can we make it? And Jalen
Brunson has done this. He's taken less money. He is.
He is more beloved in it as a by Knicks
fans than Ewing ever was. Ewing was great, but it
was ah, we fell short in the finals here, we

(54:19):
fell short in the finals here, and really the one
finals we could have won twenty five years ago. He
tears his achilles when we could have beaten the Spurs,
but that you know, it wasn't his fault. But Brunson
has been able to persevere and lead the team past
where anybody thought they could. You has to. He is
he is the He is the greatest Nick of all
time right now. He's the greatest.

Speaker 5 (54:37):
But there's a couple of things that also go into it.

Speaker 3 (54:39):
I mean, Ewing was notoriously not a guy that did
a whole lot of interviews, and other than the quote
of we make a lot of money, and we spend
a lot of money when when we were talking about
work stoppages, he was a guy that didn't really have
the best relationship. He's also a guy that the weight
of the world and expectations were there frozen envelope theory.

(55:00):
He's aside decorated career at Georgetown that we watched every
minute of. Right, that was when college basketball was one
of the rulers of our sporting world. And you watch
these guys, you got to know them, whether you liked
them or not. Between he Alonso Morning to ken Ba
mctombo and John Thompson like they were and then you
had Alan Iverson, I mean, you just had this squad

(55:20):
that we paid attention to. On a whole other level,
Jalen Brunson was the guy that was the also ran
when Lucas showed up in Dallas. He's short, with you
know the big back porch, right, He's not the quick guy,
he's not lanky, he's not the prototypical star of the NBA. Oh,

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and he's a colossal smart ass at the microphone. So
he's very embraceable and he's got that workmanlike thing that wins.
He's not some feet right like that that usually disqualified center.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
What we talk greatest of all time? What do we do?
We don't talk about Korean and Wilt. They get just
put off in their own corner.

Speaker 3 (55:56):
And you know it's like, ah, whatever, they were seven
feet tall, Like, let's talk about these guys.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
Jalen Brunce is that guy at a whole other level
telling you Brunson is now the greatest nick of all time?
Any nick fane, that's really sad. I know it's sad.
You even talking about Carmellow and it's okay's better than Carmelo. Jalen.
I mean, I'm just.

Speaker 5 (56:14):
Saying you you just went right past. We got to insane.
Any reference. He's alive. That game you can be there, Jileheim,
the only title Mellow.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
Can be there. That's fine. Jalen Brunson's greatest. It's a
metal stand. I mean, actually is Mellow fourth? This is
the fourth man? Probably maybe fourth? Yeah, probably because it's
a really sad Mount Rushmore. But hell, I'm telling you
get you there. Brunson is now the greatest nick ever.
And it's crazy and it's a little sad, but it's true.