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May 22, 2025 • 52 mins

Jason, Mike and our NFL Insider Jason Cole remember Colts Owner Jim Irsay. And the knuckleheads react to Tyrese Haliburton buzzer beater that forced OT. Plus, Jason’s reacting to the Pacers stealing Game 1 from New York in The Garden!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
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the Eastern Conference Finals.

Speaker 5 (01:03):
Again.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
The Knicks are here to save the NBA playoffs, especially
after seeing the ratings of last night's Game one of
the Western Conference Finals.

Speaker 6 (01:09):
But Nixon five or six. Now, hey, maybe to drag
it said, maybe best of nine, now best of eleven.
You know what, since we really didn't get the best
of nine back at the nineteen nineteen World Series, We're
gonna play it here.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
They really need that, Knicks Pacers. How about we extended.
How about we just make this the NBA title. Let's
just let just make this the end of the title. Going
to the fourth quarter, Knicks lead the Pacers ninety to
eighty seven. Jalen Brunson with twenty seven for the Knicks,
Tyres Halliburton with twenty three. They have both looked at
times unstoppable in this game. But the first thing I'm
gonna say is this, because this is one of those

(01:45):
times where and we joked around about this going into
the series, like oh Rick Carlisle's already complaining about the
officiating before they've been played Game one, Like watching this
game be officiated, it's not being officiated great for either side.
Like you've seen Jalen runs and getting foul trouble with
four on a foul that I can't believe was whistled.
Karl Anthony Towns as well. I know the same thing

(02:06):
has happened for the Pacers. You know, the big continuation
foul that Brunson got after he picked up his fourth
foul was kind of a give back. So I really
no matter how this turns out at the end, this
is a game where I watch both sides and I go, okay,
you know what, each side has has an issue with
the officiating, which means the officiating can't be complaint.

Speaker 5 (02:26):
Now we know the fourth quarter ago, we see how
things go.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
Obviously, but to this point, when both sides have issue
with the officiating, neither side can complain because it's not
like the Pacers are getting done.

Speaker 5 (02:36):
It's not like the knicks are being done.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
I'm seeing I'm seeing it on both sides right now,
and I know that Rick Carla every time they cut
await him on the side. It's like, I can't wait
to talk about the officiing. I can't wait to talk
about the officiating postgame. But I'll tell you right now,
there's been some questionable stuff, but it's really been both sides.
I really hope that you would see a little bit
more of letting them play in game one, but this
could also be a Hey, the officials aren't gonna let

(02:59):
things get so out of wax. So Game one might
be a little bit tighter. Uh So, but again here's
where we are. It's a three point game and and
both teams are playing fantastic. This is what you want,
right Game one of the Eastern Conference Finals.

Speaker 6 (03:10):
Well, that's a three point game going to the fourth
as we roll in and we watched the the Pacers
try try to get going. Gonna be one thing for
the for the Knicks, that was huge second quarter. Jalen
bruns had got to sit for a full seven minutes
of game time. Uh So that should play a little
bit of a role given his energizer bunny status. Uh
that you see in the best or I guess the

(03:33):
worst of circumstances. Now he's actually rested. But in terms
of the officiating watching it over the course of that,
I just want consistency, and that's what we're we continue
to struggle with of all, Right, I'm I gonna touch
call the touch files?

Speaker 4 (03:45):
Am I not? I'm gonna call the moving screen? Am
I not?

Speaker 6 (03:50):
The reach in the continuation? Like both guys have gotten it.
Both Haliburton uh and Jalen Brunson have gotten that extra
step gather well and the in the gather. If I
had a nickel for every time that's now said on
a rate, in the gap, tell the.

Speaker 5 (04:04):
Gather, it's the thing now in the gather, Yes, in
the gather.

Speaker 6 (04:06):
Like in the grasp, once upon a time in the NFL,
all of those things. But you know, just trying to
figure out where where they decide the line is, and
that's going to be a moving target. We saw the
Facebook page of the twenty officials that will work the
Conference finals series. They've got their work cut out for
him because these are two teams that love to get

(04:28):
after it and and the big guys are very aggressive
and and will make guys earn their points at the stripe.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Now, I'm glad you mentioned, you know, getting him, getting
Jalen Brunson getting that it's nearly six minutes worth of
rest in the second quarter. It was a huge deal
because Campaign comes in, who barely played and barely scored
so far in the playoffs, and he came in and
the Knicks push that lead out to eight at one point.
Now that they had the lead at halftime when they
were down early because the Pacers i think started twelve

(04:57):
for twelve from the floor. So those are some real
big minutes. Campaign hit a couple of threes to get
the knicks up there and wound up with a you know,
taking the lead.

Speaker 5 (05:04):
So those are some really really.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Big buckets there, and some big minutes by Campaign, because
now here's Brunson who just hits two circus hoops that
you look and go, Okay, that's not nope, there it
goes okay, yep, nope, those are both going. So it's
a three point Nick lead right now, ninety four ninety
one with about ten and a half to go in
the fourth quarter. So we'll have more on this as
the game keeps go. Obviously, we had a big night,
big day today in the NBA with Shay Gildas Alexander

(05:29):
winning the NBA MVP, and uh, I gotta say two things.
What yes, okay, sure. The first thing I'm gonna say
is this all right?

Speaker 5 (05:37):
How's the Lebron James number five?

Speaker 7 (05:39):
What?

Speaker 4 (05:40):
What?

Speaker 3 (05:40):
What?

Speaker 5 (05:40):
What do you want? First? You want? Do you want
the crazy one or do you want the Do you
want the serious one? Whatdy?

Speaker 4 (05:46):
No, you gotta go serious first because then.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Crazy wan So no, you have to actually swing the
bat to win the MVP and not doing that.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
Well, I mean OBP might really really.

Speaker 5 (05:58):
Matter to people. We will get to that. We'll get
to that.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
So here's the thing is that I'll give you the
serious one first is I'm glad SGA one simply because
it shows you that, Okay, this is an MVP award.
It's not Player of the Award. Most Valuable Player is
for a player who is the most valuable to his team,
and you.

Speaker 5 (06:19):
Need to achieve as a team to win MVP.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
Jokich is phenomenal, Right, MVP player three out of last
four years.

Speaker 5 (06:26):
Yeah, I get it.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
But it's not like during the regular season the Nuggets
are suddenly out to winning sixty five games. They're a nice,
middle of the pack, fifty to fifty five win team.
That's what Jokic brings the Nuggets. SGA this year also
had an incredible year, right, I mean, Yokic, the triple double,
all the different things. He had a fantastic year. But
it's for the regular season. It's not just hey, this

(06:48):
is the best player, and SGA helped lead the Thunder
to the best record in the West. He did some
things we'd never seen in the NBA before. So yeah,
he's the MVP because it's not a Player of the Award.
I am okay, if leagues want to say, you know what,
how about we do this. Let's give out more hardware,
Let's have a Player of the Year award, and let's
have an MV. I've been saying this for years. Why

(07:10):
not let's have it, have the the the Kobe Bryant
Player of the Year Award, or however you want to
do it. You can, you can have it, because that
would work. Then you can make hey, who's the best player.
The best player is Nicole Yo, look at it? Okay, great,
and then the MVP. Jay Gilders, Alexander you do it
in Major League Baseball. You could do it in the NFL.
You can do it in the NBA. But really it's

(07:30):
more for the NBA and the MLB getting that going,
because hey, when a guy has that great a year,
doesn't matter if his team is middling in the standings.
And yeah, and the Nuggets were kind of middling in
the standings last way they won the title, right, but
every year regular season they finished third or fourth. So
I mean, I can't sit here and say, yeah, you'll
get just the MVP again, when when it's about raising

(07:51):
your team to a height and they've been just a
you know, steady they did boop boop boop, you know,
fifty five fifty to fifty five win team for the
last five years.

Speaker 6 (07:57):
Well, but that's the thing, right, if we we've got
to take it in the vacuum of this season, you
could argue this might have been Jokic's finest performance, right,
Porter Junior wasn't very good. It had injury issues, but
struggled a bunch, Jamal Murray missed a bunch of time,
and well you fired Michael.

Speaker 4 (08:16):
Malone in the middle of it.

Speaker 6 (08:18):
All of that, say, you finished with eighteen fewer regular
season wins than o case he did so while he
was a wizard himself, and you could make that argument.
I was surprised by the margin of victory, right, not
that sg nds up winning it, but a seventy one
twenty nine final. That one seemed that was curious to

(08:39):
me because I think there was still a lot of
in the you know, anonymous polling towards the end of
the regular season, there was still a lot of nah,
Jokic just having his finest season and yeah, blah blah,
and in the end you get SGA off the thirty
point per game. Now that you hit the backlash because
you start subtracting all the file shots he shouldn't have taken,

(09:00):
and that he takes his scoring average down and all
of those things. But for this season, no, I mean
I don't have an issue with it. You raced out
to sixty eight wins. You you bludgeon teams time and
time again. Right, your average margin of victory was so great.
And I understand the counter argument as folks, well, you
know what, they had it good enough and a deep
enough team, and blah blah blah. He's still the head

(09:21):
of the Snake and he's still the guy that's the leader,
and that is unquestioned, and he gets them to sixty
eight wins in a very difficult and deep Western Conference.
So yeah, to the victor goes the spoils, and it
creates a new narrative. Right, there's sga given Nicole Yo
gets another one.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
Hey, four out of five, Bret, you're creating new stars, right,
That's it has always been creating new stars, right, Like,
how did Jordan not win every year?

Speaker 5 (09:46):
How did Shock not win every year? Right? We want
to create new stars. I get it.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
So I'm glad that happened because I'm glad because it
it shows you. Hey, yeah, we took that this is
going to be MVP of one.

Speaker 6 (09:55):
Yeah, and the margin of victory won't matter when we
get further away from it, because it's it's not like
it's a Shaq iverson thing you would have been getting in.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
Ah, not really.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (10:07):
The other one is this now here?

Speaker 6 (10:08):
Okay, let's go crazy, all right, come on now, we
got to provide content for a lot of folks.

Speaker 4 (10:13):
Get those notebooks out.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
The Oklahoma City Thunder have you know since they've come
into the league. Hey, look at this small market team,
you know, finding a way to stay relevant. Boy, they're
a great story. Okay, but maybe.

Speaker 5 (10:25):
They're the biggest bleeping underachievers in the NBA.

Speaker 7 (10:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
You have had three different MVPs in the last decade. Three,
not one, not two, You've had three. The teams with
three m vps aren't like the Lakers and the Celtics
and Banners and championships. You've had three guys win MVP
in the last decade. And yet and this way, hey,
we get to the finals, it'll be the second time. Like,
maybe you're the biggest underachievers in the NBA talent has

(10:54):
come through the York About that, man, I'm still looking.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
For an original, mister unreliable newspaper.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
And you trade James Harden when you said, oh, we
can't pay him, we got to we can't pay hard.
I won't trade James Harden. And then he goes and
becomes a super duper star. Like maybe maybe maybe you're
the biggest underachievers of the last decade.

Speaker 6 (11:11):
But go back and look at all of the super teams. Right,
that was the the term dejure for about fifteen fifteen years.
It was on the menu. It's like what soup of
the day? Same as it ever was super teams and
you guys are going all over the place to team up.
They had one happen organically fell out of the sky

(11:32):
and they couldn't win.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
I mean really three different MVPs, and they traded James
Harden like like that's like, how do you have all
that talent? And this is what we're here in the
Western Conference finals this year one game to another. Okay, great, right, awesome,
you're here.

Speaker 5 (11:46):
You have a chance.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
But in the in the last ten years, this is
who you've had come through your come through your team.

Speaker 6 (11:53):
It's funny because you bring this up now, and when
I saw the little graphic pop by and there was
the picture of him with the m MVP trophy, you
know that someone had had doctored and put together because
obviously it wasn't handed to him just yet, and it
was with the other Okay, c MVPs, I had that
fleeting moment to go. It's a lot of talent. I mean,

(12:14):
three m vps with the Thunder, I mean maybe they've
been the biggest underachievers in the NBA. With the Knicks,
stop stop, we had no talent for a long time.
Do you really think the Knicks ever underachieved up until
the last Yeah, towards.

Speaker 5 (12:27):
Zia, Come on, come on, old talent a clown?

Speaker 1 (12:31):
That is true, I'm telling you man, I mean really
just think about that for a second, that this is
this is where they're at that with three m vps
and James Harden and yeah, we're still trying to break through.

Speaker 4 (12:46):
Actually, who else would be on that metal stand though?

Speaker 6 (12:48):
In terms of underachievers, I mean the Lakers because they
just got that one.

Speaker 5 (12:52):
Well yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
With Lebron Yeah, and you could talk about the Kas
were they underachievers for a long time. But Lebron came
back and won there so, But I mean you think
about three did stuf like you had one guy?

Speaker 6 (13:01):
Well, you had multiple bites after yeah, and James Harden
before you traded him.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
You had all of that out. You're maybe the biggest
underachieve in the NBA. I mean, just think of that truck.
They have a lot of draft picks left though. No, no, no, no, no,
we're not We're not under again. You have to be
good to underachieve. Well, you had expectations. The Knicks underachieved
you for a decade. The Knicks only had one thing
wrong with them the last few years.

Speaker 5 (13:26):
What's one thing?

Speaker 6 (13:26):
Just one thing wrong? One thing the whole tame one
thing wrong. They stunk. They don't stink now, you know,
we haven't talked about James Dolan.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
In a while.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
It is a one oh one ninety two lead for
the Knicks over the Pacers. With Brunson on the bench,
the Knicks have pushed this lead out to nine. Karl
Anthony Towns headed to the free throw line. He's gonna
shoot three free throws as he.

Speaker 6 (13:49):
Was fouled taking a three h The result of Rick
Carlisle yelling at Nie Smith after all of the non closeouts,
So this time I'm.

Speaker 4 (13:57):
Getting it his way.

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(14:19):
we get into the biggest shocking story in the NFL today,
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NFL coming up a minute with Jason Cole. But right now,
the Knicks lead is one eleven to ninety six. Is
a fifteen point lead with six minutes left to play.
The big thing to know they have pushed this lead.

Speaker 4 (16:56):
It was It was a.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Three to five point game for the majority of the
second of the last part of the third quarter. Jalen
Brunson goes to the bench picking up his fifth foul.
Now the fourth foul is on the refs fifth foul
was on him a bad play. Look, the Pacers are
going at him defensively because I want to try to
get him in foul trouble. Want to try to make
him work, and it worked. He got up in the air.

Speaker 5 (17:16):
TJ. McConnell gets his fifth foul.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
But since leaving the game, the Knicks have now pushed
this lead out to fifteen with Brunson sitting on the
bench twenty eight and nine for Karl Anthony Towns, who
was taking heat check threes right now because he's feeling
it so much. Look Brunson thirty one before he goes
to the bench with the five fouls. It really has
been something to see with Jalen Brunson on the bench.

(17:40):
You think things are going to get a little nervous.
Things are gonna get a little weird, Things are gonna
a little crazy. The Knicks lead gets pushed out to
fifteen with under six minutes left to get z over.

Speaker 6 (17:48):
Under was thirty and a half Jalen Brunson, So there
you go. But what Rick Carlile's really got to be
salty about is how well the Knicks have played for
Tom Thibodeaux while Jalen Brunson's been sitting on his ass
telling it.

Speaker 4 (18:02):
I'd go back to that second quorder and look at it.

Speaker 6 (18:05):
Now there's a much different Nick squad against this Pacers team,
which is remarkable. They haven't played since February. Yeah, no, right,
but now we're gonna play three more games after.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
This, so.

Speaker 4 (18:19):
Little Jesty be careful.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
More on this coming up in a few minutes. The
next lead one eleven ninety eight, about five minutes left
to go in Game one of the Eastern Conference Finals.
But from the NFL today, look, it began with a
lot of drama with the Tush Push not getting banned
after NFL owners had a very contentious meeting where they
voted and they didn't get enough votes to overturn the
Tush Pushvan band. So it's gonna live for at least

(18:44):
another year. Other big change the NFL as well. We're
talking about how there's no reseting in the playoffs and
other big things. And then the big story occurs later today,
a shocker to all of us. Colts owner Jim Ersay
dies suddenly in his sleep at the age of six,
and you have seen the plaudits come in for him
over the course of the path hours a guy that's

(19:05):
out of life, right. We know he liked to get out.
You know, he had one of those robust, grab life
by the horns type of personality.

Speaker 5 (19:11):
You've seen him.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
He's been very visible and in certain stories where he
probably shouldn't have been. But you see all the philanthropic work,
all the great things being said about him, all the
things he did in and out of the community, and
it's something to have this part of his life be
focused on. But again, the big shock or jim Ers
passing away at the age of sixty five joining us

(19:32):
now on the hotline to break it all down. Longtime
NFL inside or Hall of Fame voter, he's on Twitter
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Speaker 3 (19:46):
Well, listen to this news just I also came out
with a new book. I forgot to tell you guys
about that. Okay, about Robert Taylor, a guy who's a
quadriplegic and former cal rugby player. But we'll get back
to that at the end because Roberts not Roberts said that.

(20:07):
Jim Or said far more important far more interesting person
to discuss even in death. He was a really he
was really a wonderful guy. You know, obviously troubled, obviously
at issue. You know a lot of a lot of demons.
There a lot of demons, you know, probably from childhood,

(20:28):
given that his dad was a pretty heavy alcoholic too,
But really, you know, an earnest guy. He could actually
have a conversation with and like talk to him about
his family, you'd share things, really actually talk about football
because he actually came through in football. He was a
he was general manager. Like he worked at understanding the

(20:51):
game better than most owners who you ever run into. Like,
he really did get it in certain ways. Yeah, that
was you know a lot of a lot of very
negative headlines along the way as well. Unfortunately, what if
I said to you.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
Hey, what's one story about about him that that you
all would defall to and say, this is what I
think about, this, what I think of when I think
of a versay and all of that.

Speaker 5 (21:19):
What story would you tell?

Speaker 3 (21:22):
Oh, I don't think it would be one single story.
It would be anytime you approach to me, always stop
and he would answer our question and he would treat
me with a certain amount of dignity that he was
not above you, like even though he's a billionaire, even
though he you know, had moved a team and his
dad had made a lot of money and he was
a rich kid growing up. Like there's a genuineness, there's

(21:46):
a I don't know, a human frailty about him that
made him understand that he wasn't above anybody else despite
his financial stature. And that's pretty rare in group, Like
they look down upon people a lot. Let me just
pray it to you that way, Like Woody Johnson doesn't
have a lot of respect for people who don't have

(22:08):
as much money as him. Let me just play it
that way.

Speaker 6 (22:11):
Also, a guy that was a fan like the rest
of us, with that rock collection and everything that he
assembled over the year.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
Jacobs, Oh yeah, I mean yeah, a good dude and
really human and I never like didn't hide from the
fact that he had problems, right like, he didn't. He
didn't deny it. He didn't sit there and try and
tell you other that's all lies or you know, pretend
that he was something he wasn't right, Like, he owned it.

(22:38):
He owned his troubles, he owned his frailty, he owned
his humanness, and again, unlike other people in that position
who do not like to you know, have to own
you know, what's wrong with them, Like just so many
of those guys who who don't want to hear anything

(22:59):
bad about themselves. And Jim Orsay was not afraid, was
not afraid of any of that, and that does I'm
not saying that he would embrace it either, but he
wasn't afraid of it. Because I guess the best way to.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
Put it, Jason call our guest, the Jason Smizer with
Mike Carmon live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. And
you know, it's it's kind of you think about it
happening today when when the owners had the vote on
the tush push and a lot of things, and you know,
you and I text us like, hey.

Speaker 5 (23:31):
Was was he there at the owners meeting? And You're like,
I don't think he was there.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
And that's the first I thought it was that he
did go for an afternoon nap and and he didn't
wake up. It was just such an odd thing to
have it happen, you know, surrounding such a big day
for all the owners.

Speaker 5 (23:45):
In the NFL.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
Yeah, I think it's his daughter's alternate control of the team.
At this point, he'd given up the day to day
because physically he just couldn't get around that much. I mean,
the back problems they'd had, you know, all the issues
that he had dealt with physically over it over time.
I mean this is on top of the demons, the
abuse issues. Like physically, he's just yeah, he got he

(24:09):
was destroyed by some of the things that happened over
the course of his life. I mean he bent over,
uncomfortable all the time. You could see that the man
was in pain. Right, So at a certain point about
I think it was like four years ago, he gave
up day to day control and going and go to
the meeting. So I'd be surprised if he was at

(24:29):
this meeting, and that also would have made him for
a much different headline. I'm assuming that he was at
home when that's happened.

Speaker 6 (24:37):
Jacol transitioning to the news from earlier today an hour
of filibustering and speeches. Jason Kelsey shows up admonishment for
some terminology used by the Eagles, but the tush push
remains what flipped it. It seemed like it was a foregone conclusion.
It was going into the Dodo land.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
I think it's an understand Like, this is football, man, Like,
how is this not a really basic football play? And
I just I always look at this going if this
is this is a goal line drill, right, and if
you happen to have an advantage in a goal line drill,

(25:19):
why should you take this away? And I get I
get it that pushing a guy upfield and doing certain
things when when defenders are in helpless positions and not
prepared for it, it's tough, like when guys run down
to like when offensive linemen run downfield and push their

(25:39):
own runner against a tackler in a one on one situation.
That Brunston's on fire.

Speaker 5 (25:46):
By the way, Hey, if.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
I'm not allowed to jump in and say stuff, you
can't say stuff.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
I just wait, you just he just nailed that. Wow
that was another long but whatever. Anyways, but like, this
is football, man, Like, I don't get it. I don't
I don't get why you're taking away something that is
sort of essential to the game. And I know it's not,
you know, one of the twenty yards playdowns. You like,

(26:14):
sometimes football is just a you know, a one on
is a is a man on man battle for you know,
a couple of inches of real estate and that's what
it's supposed to be sometimes and that's okay, right now,
that's not eight you might be getting nervous. So I

(26:37):
just I just think that, Like here, here's the other
thing that really ticks me off. Why are people who
don't play the game making the rules about how the
game is supposed to be played. And not only don't play,
but don't know how to play this game, don't even
have the first clue of how it's done. And you
can tell me about competition committees and coaches and all,

(26:59):
but my opinion is the players should be the ones
that make the rules. Now, the players have to have
to sign off on a few things like if they
want if they want hits to the head, they have
to agree not to sue the owners over you know,
cumulative damage, right, like you guys, there has to be
some give and take, right the owners deserve protection over

(27:22):
over long term lawsuits. Right if this is the way
the players want to play, And to me, like the
tush push is a is one that should be arguing
amongst the player reps in the union and in that setting,
and especially against guys actually actually played like the kickers
who are the player reps should be kicked out of
the room when they when when this is discussed. I mean,

(27:43):
I'm and I'm serious about that, Like they don't belong
in the room, and the quarterbacks don't really belong their
room to that either, But like that's that's the guys
who should be deciding the rules, with obviously the coaches
having a hand in and guiding them and saying, hey, look,
you might want to think about what you're doing in

(28:03):
this situation if you allow for this kind of play.
That's why I just don't understand why the owners are
in on this and they're part of it, because when
the owners become part of it, it's all about, oh,
are we going to get sued because of this? Are
we going to do? You know? Is this is this bad?
Like you know, they're always changing the rules for reasons

(28:23):
that sometimes don't have anything to do with and with
actual performance and play on the on the field.

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Speaker 5 (29:22):
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Speaker 5 (29:49):
Just nicknapp.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
That's where we're at yes, as Jason Cole bring us
the play by play of the Knicks and the Pacers,
it is a one twenty three, one eighteen lead. Now
for the Knicks with thirty four seconds left to go,
they have the basketball. The one thing is, there's three
minutes to go, you're up by fourteen. Don't allow threes.
All the pages have done is hit threes in the
last three minutes. That's all they've done. Guys hitting threes.

(30:12):
Nie Smith is hitting threes now all hitting three is like,
no threes, give up the twos, no threes. So now
it's a game. And the Knicks half hit free throws
in the last thirty five seconds, but still a five
point lead with thirty four seconds.

Speaker 6 (30:24):
To be fair, they hadn't hit any threes all day,
so they were due.

Speaker 5 (30:27):
That is ra. That is true. What's he gonna do
start hitting them now?

Speaker 3 (30:30):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (30:30):
Yeah, no, they're yeah, I guess they will Oh leave
bet Wow, that's really happening.

Speaker 4 (30:34):
Okay, yeah, they're not gonna want so to it. They
took their swings. What can you say?

Speaker 5 (30:38):
No the nets one tonight okay, just say you know
we won tonight.

Speaker 4 (30:41):
Smiling in this game.

Speaker 5 (30:43):
Oh he had yet a sack. He lost seven million.

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(31:07):
who's been called the Rick Carlisle of Fox Sports Radio,
never really happy with the officiating.

Speaker 5 (31:13):
That's Maski Belagyos.

Speaker 8 (31:14):
You know, I'm not really happy all the time with
the officiating, But you know what, Carlisle is a damn
great coach, so I'm good for that. Nie Smith Aaron
Nesmith that you just mentioned, Jason is seven of eight
from the three.

Speaker 4 (31:27):
So yeah, he's pretty hot.

Speaker 8 (31:28):
And this is not the time for the Pacers to
be hitting those threes. If the Knicks are gonna hold
on to their lead, they are up right now, as
you mentioned, by five points with less than thirty seconds
to go. Tyrese Haliburn is leading scorer for Indiana. He
is twenty is twenty seven points, ten of nineteen from
the field. The Big Bodega Carl Anthony Towns with thirty
two points and ten rebounds. Jalen Brunson's got thirty seven

(31:50):
points and five assists and coming down to the wire
in Game one of the Eastern Conference Finals. Shake Gildess
Alexander was officially named the NBA's MVP of the twenty
twenty four to twenty twenty five season. He gave all
of his teammates rolexes. Jason, when are you gonna give
us all rolexes when the Knicks win? Is that that's

(32:10):
gonna happen?

Speaker 4 (32:11):
Yeah, look at you, Look at you and B B
B all right?

Speaker 5 (32:18):
Why does my watch say R O L.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
L E S.

Speaker 6 (32:23):
Roll?

Speaker 4 (32:24):
That's very roll. When it comes to the NHL playoffs.
Also a great game.

Speaker 8 (32:31):
It's West the West Final Game one between the Oilers
and the Stars. The Stars have scored three goals in
the third period.

Speaker 5 (32:37):
They've taken the lead from the Oilers.

Speaker 8 (32:39):
Four to three is the score with about nine minutes
to go in the third period when it comes to baseball.
The Phillies are on top of the Rockies A nine
to three. It's the top of the seventh inning. The
Angels have oh no. The a's a taking the lead
from the Angels three to two. Bottom of the second inning,
Diamondbacks and Dodgers are scoreless.

Speaker 4 (32:55):
Top of the third.

Speaker 8 (32:56):
The Mets outscored the Red Sox five to one. The
Blue Jays shut out the Hadres fourteen zero, and Dalton
varshow had a grand slam in the win. The Yankees
walked it off against the Rangers four to three thanks
to Jason Dominguez. In the NFL Today, it was voted
that the touch push is gonna stay legal. In twenty
twenty five, after not enough owners voted to ban the
play that was made famous by the Eagles, the Lions

(33:18):
withdrew their proposal to change playoff receding, and now teams
are also allowed to do an on set kick at
any point if they are trailing in the game. And
the Colts announced that their owner and CEO, Jim Erse
passed away peacefully in his sleep this afternoon.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
He was sixty five.

Speaker 5 (33:32):
Back to you guys, Thank you very much.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
MASSI so really quick, it looks like the Pacers are
going to get the basketball. Here with about twenty eight
seconds left to go down five, Jalen Brunson dishes down
load to Ogiannunoby, who goes up and kind of gets
tangled up with Pascal Siakam, and initially it was ruled
the ball out of bounds off the Pacers. However, it's
pretty pretty obvious on the replay that Anunoby was the

(33:56):
last guy to touch the ball. So I think the
Pacers are going to get this ball with about twenty
nine seconds left down five. All the new I mean, defensively,
all you gotta say is okay, no threes, right, give
them the let no threes, no threes. And yet they're
allowing open threes. And Nie Smith looks like Steph Curry.
It looks like he's he's right. He's running around the
floor like, Kurt, give me the ball, give me the ball.

(34:17):
I'm taking three. He's seven out of eight from three
point run.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (34:19):
They have hit five to their last six as a team.

Speaker 6 (34:22):
Uh, you are lucky that your your floor general gets
to stay on the court though, to get open on
the inbounds got away with a big oles shove that
would have disqualified him. But now we have the drama
twenty nine point nine remaining, so they're.

Speaker 5 (34:35):
Still figuring out the replay on this.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
They could be looking at it as well, so that's
kind of there. So if they could rule a fallanc
Yakam who did push Andrew Nobi's arm. So they're gonna
take a while on this. Coming up next, are we
talking about a big Knicks game one win and unbelievable
Pacers comeback that could be deflating or over time. That's
next right here, the drama is live Jason and Mike

(35:00):
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Speaker 5 (35:32):
So time out on the floor.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
The Knicks lead the Pacers one twenty four to one
twenty one. Karl Anthony Towns one for two from the
free throw line. So now the Pacers and the red
hot knee Smith, who is hit I think eleven threes
in the fourth quarter, Pacers have a chance to potentially
tie this game and send it to overtime. They have
the ball with thirteen seconds left in regulation. The Knicks

(35:58):
commit a foul, so foul on the floor, so now
make it twelve seconds. Pacers have to run another play
to inbound again. Still up one twenty four to one
twenty one. Again, twelve and a half seconds left to
go in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 4 (36:12):
You didn't think it was gonna be the Nie Smith game,
did you.

Speaker 5 (36:14):
Nothing's easy? Nothing is easy, My good.

Speaker 4 (36:17):
You were worried about Nemhard.

Speaker 6 (36:18):
Now the other guy with any to start his I mean,
he is.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
Eight out of nine from three point range, and he
is he has just simply been unconscious like he's and
he hit his last three because Josh Hart slipped a
little bit. But that's still running and catching and turning
and hitting it.

Speaker 5 (36:35):
Even Miller's jealous watching him.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
So because of the foul on the floor with Nie Smith.
He's at the free throw. Oh, it looked like he
was out of band.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
Wow, but the.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
Foul may have preceded that. Well, the foul may have
preceded that call. Tyger's to the run. Yeah, they don't
have a challenge either. So with the foul on the floor,
Nie Smith will be shooting two free throws instead of three.
So the best he could do is cut it to
one point where the Knicks will still have to inbound
the ball and shoot free throws with probably seven or
eight seconds left to go. Here again, it was a

(37:06):
fourteen point lead with two and a half left to go,
and then all these threes by the Pacers have cut
this lead now to one point. With just ten seconds
left to go, the Knicks are able to get the
ball in bounds.

Speaker 4 (37:21):
Little weird little crash, random bouncing up and down.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
Yeah, Poganunobi is able to corral the ball at mid court.
He has fouled. He will be going to the free
throw line to shoot two with seven seconds left. Jalen
Brunson and passing the ball out to an Unobi. Great
vision by him, falls into the crowd and into the
lap of Nick Legend. Clyde Fraser, who gets up in
huggs Brunson before they go to shoot free throw.

Speaker 6 (37:48):
Well, the way he threw the ball down, it was
almost like he was trying to throw it off the
Indiana defender.

Speaker 4 (37:53):
Oh, get it off him.

Speaker 6 (37:54):
Bounds Instead, it threads the needle and he finds his
way to Clyde and.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
Here's your hugs it now. Now it's not gonna be
free throws. I don't think the Knicks are in the bonus,
so I think it's gonna be no, no, no, he's at
the free throw line. Okay, they're setting they're setting up
the play after they're Steve Cohen in the background, but
like just to get up, just to get up out
of the out of out of the chair, and yeah,
hey Clyde and the and Brunson stays there for like three.

Speaker 5 (38:18):
Or time five or six seconds. Dam here, I'm gonna
hug you for a little bit.

Speaker 4 (38:22):
It works out, Okay, why not take a minute?

Speaker 6 (38:25):
Yeah sure, uh oh, I've tried to try to distract
you at this.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
Yeah, because it's oh Man misses the first free throw
for the Knicks. So it's one twenty four, one twenty
three with seven seconds left to go, and Unobi is
gonna be shooting the second, and uh, every Nick fan
in Madison Square Garden is me right now. They are
just oh my goodness, Oh my goodness. And Unobi at
the line and look, oh my goodness, I'm shaking right now.

Speaker 4 (38:52):
Yeah, you got you were really calm for a long time.
He hits.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
He hits this second. So it's a one twenty five,
one twenty three lead for the with five seconds left
to go and the final shot by the Pacers. Oh
my god, wow, oh.

Speaker 5 (39:09):
My goodness, I, oh my goodness, six. Do you believe it?

Speaker 4 (39:16):
Unlikelihood?

Speaker 1 (39:17):
I think we're going to overtime. I say think because
I can't believe what I just saw. The final play
in regulation Tyres Halliburton with the ball for the Pacers.
He drives down the lane looking to go in, but
the Knicks are there defensively. He dribbles back out behind

(39:37):
the three point line, puts up a shot that bounces
off the back of the rim. The ball bounces up
higher than the backboard, It goes straight up, It goes
up to where the shot clock is and bounces down
back through. Halliburton immediately does the Reggie Miller choke sign
towards the Nick bench and Spike Lee. However, his foot

(40:00):
was on the line. It is a two pointer. They're
gonna look at it, I am sure, But Halliburton's foot
is on the line. It is a one twenty five,
one twenty five game, end of regulation. Yeah, pray you
see that second angle. His foot is on the line.
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Speaker 5 (40:46):
Two point game Indiana with it.

Speaker 4 (40:51):
Helliber, they'll take it.

Speaker 5 (40:55):
They'll backpedal a free for them.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
So there was woons he on the call. Your play
today brought you by Tiraq. We're going overtime somehow. Next
straight up in the air about eight feet comes back
down through the hoop. However, he had his foot on
the line. Pretty easy to see. His foot was on
the line. So no controversy there, but yet another big
hoop by the Pacers. They close incredibly. We're in overtime

(41:27):
with about a minute and a half left to go.
I just I just want to say, I hope the
other ninety nine percent of NBA fans have enjoyed the
last few minutes of this game, because I have not.

Speaker 4 (41:40):
No, no, no, it's okay.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
The other ninety nine percent of people watching, I hope
they enjoy it because I really have.

Speaker 6 (41:45):
Now for the radio audience, if you you follow me
on Twitter at Swollen Dome I put out earlier, you know, hey,
join us as Varsity Club assembles at seven o'clock because
we'll watch and live and die with you on each possession.
I'm sure going in the shot chart from the fourth
quarter as we sit here. You can't see it on
the radio, but all of the little blue dots for

(42:08):
the Pacers from three point range. Nick's pretty efficient in
the paint. Not so much from the outside. Yeah, absolute opposite.
You saw Nie Smith amongst others, and then your nemesis
Nemhard shining.

Speaker 4 (42:21):
Bright as well. Both and he like neon lights.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
Yeah, if it's shining on Broadway, it's any and the
Pacers in the playoffs, and it's the Knicks You're going
to do well. So I hope everybody else can can
enjoy because I couldn't enjoy it. I could not enjoyn well.

Speaker 6 (42:34):
You did with the bottom man until the final two
and a half minutes right fourteen point.

Speaker 4 (42:38):
Ly on, Jason asked me if I enjoyed it?

Speaker 3 (42:40):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (42:40):
Did Frostburg? Did you enjoy it?

Speaker 3 (42:42):
Hell?

Speaker 1 (42:42):
Yeah, yeah, because remember that Rostburg's one of the ninety
nine percent. He was with me until the Nicks eliminated
the Celtics, and now he's.

Speaker 5 (42:48):
Away from it.

Speaker 6 (42:49):
He broke the Tocobean peace accord. It's okay, and now
here we are. He's gonna shut down the Avengers.

Speaker 4 (42:54):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
Yeah, that's right, it's being shut down. Brunting out the
free throw line, he hits both free throws. The Knicks
lead at one thirty three one thirty two, with a
little over a minute left to go in overtime. Where
we where if the Knicks lose this game? I don't know, man,
I don't know. If the Knickson win another game this series,
where does it rank? And the all time collapses of
playoff games every twenty years apparently it's Reggie Miller with

(43:16):
the choke sign. It's Halliburton hitting the shot he thought
would win the game, making the choke sign thinking the
game was over, not realizing his foot was on the line.
So when we wind up going to overtime, they still
have to play. I mean, just an incredible run here
in the last few minutes that if the again, if
the Knicks lose this game, Obi Toppen just got a

(43:38):
rebound dunk former Nick to give the Pacers the lead
with about fifty five seconds left to go. I mean,
i'd really if the Knicks lose this game, I don't
know how you come back from this the rest of
the series. I how you blow a fourteen point lead at.

Speaker 4 (43:50):
Home in Game one? I don't know how you do it. Yeah,
just said an amazing run. You had.

Speaker 6 (43:55):
Haliburton with a good ball, fake defender flies by, misses
the three, but top and comes flying in just in
incredible sequencing. Brunson makes the shot to put the Knicks
ahead by one, but living and dying with each possession?
Are you and Tyrese Halliburton, who is having the game
of his life right now. A big drive and dish

(44:18):
for a layup Nembard goes in to give the Pacers
a one thirty six one thirty five lead. Time out
on the floor now with twenty six and a half
seconds left to go, I had to know what to say, like,
this is a heavyweight fight, and sometimes game one can
be everything. Sometimes game one is just game one.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
But while I'm telling you, man, if the Knicks lose
this game, I really I don't know how you come
back from this.

Speaker 5 (44:40):
I really don't.

Speaker 6 (44:41):
Well, we got cheated out of the final minutes that
we're supposed to be. Here's everybody on celebrity row. I
haven't gotten any of those. He's almost gotten run over
a couple of times, so that's why he's near the
chasers bench. No, he has not as of yet. But yeah,
I don't know that I've actually seen shallow. Did he
stay home? I don't know. But your guy Nemhard he's

(45:03):
got fifteen all five starters for the Pacers at least
fourteen points scored. Turner had that hot start. He's been
a bystander here, you know, still rebounding and doing the
other work, but scoring column being filled by everybody else
on this squad right now. Plus add ten from McConnell
off the bench, great balance as you would expect from

(45:24):
the Pacers squad, but just an insane final two and
a half minutes of regulation leading to overtime, wide open looks,
good ball movement by the Pacers and attempts to close out,
but you leave your feet, get taken by the ball
fake and then you look around and you got some
wide open looks.

Speaker 5 (45:42):
You know.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
That's the thing, is that the two things from this
game is the Nicks miss two big free throws in
the final twenty five seconds. Karl Anthony Towns misses a
free throw and Ogianu Nobi misses a free throw that
would have made this irrelevant because then it would have
been here's Halliburton shot, potentially tie the game, but the
play would have probably unfolded differently because they would have
absolutely needed a three. So that's kind of where it

(46:05):
would be. But the fact that all you have to
do when you're up by that much, with that time left,
with that much time left, I don't know how you
don't just say, Okay, no threes, right, no threes.

Speaker 5 (46:16):
That's what it is. No threes.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
Don't allow threes, And they just kept finding a way
to get open and get open, and get open. They
kept finding a way to get open, and the Knicks
kept allowing threes when it was clearly something that you
needed to not be able to just DISI just don't
allow it. Let him go, let them go in for layfs,
let them go. Two's are not threes. And they kept

(46:37):
getting threes, and now it looks like the Pacers are
going to have the ball with the lead, and twenty
five seconds left, there was a pass from Ogan Nobi
to Jalen Brunson that goes off the hands. Nembard gets
his hand in there to deflect it, but it looks
like the ball deflects off and them hard and then
hits Jalen Brunson.

Speaker 5 (46:59):
So the it all goes out of bounds.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
Right now it's Knicks ball, but it looks like they're
gonna reverse it and it's gonna go back to the Pacers.
An awful turnover by the Knicks here. I mean, I'm
telling you, like I'm seeing the end of this game going.
This is going to be an all time one of
the all time worst losses in Knick's history that we're
looking at right now.

Speaker 6 (47:16):
Yeah, Brunson reaching for the ball trying to get it
in bounds as quickly as he could. You know, one
of those I know that's off me kind of moments,
and the look on his face, the countenance a bit dejected.
We don't normally see that from Brunson, but this one
a huge play, a huge challenge coming up here as
we've got eighteen point nine seconds remaining. But to your

(47:40):
larger point, right, they did everything right. They were able
to buy time with Brunson on the bench in the
second we talked about its seven minutes of your backups
in taking care of business, extending the lead. Later in
the game he's in foul trouble. He's on the bench
taking care of business, extending maintaining the lead. And then
you have the final two and a half minuts that
are worse than anything else going out from a twenty

(48:05):
four at stand ups and previews, you know, cinema con
and all of those kind of things. It looks like
it's gonna be the ruling is coming in. It is
off Brunson, so they're putting time back on the clock.
So twenty seconds now left to go, but the Knicks
are going to have to foil because the Pacers have
the ball they're up on. That is just a horrendous turnover.

(48:26):
Not a great pass by Ananobe, but still something that
Brunson's got to get his hands on, because watching the replay,
I don't even know if if never even got his
hand on the ball. Looked like he just got his
hand in there and it went off of Brunson and
went out of bounds. I don't even know that he
got his hand on the ball. Yeah, for depending on
the camera angle, the one we saw was a bit inconclusive,

(48:48):
but certainly it's moot at this point, clearly off Brunson.
On weekend, the ensuing possession right now, still one thirty six,
one thirty five. Obi Toppin just gets the inbounds pass
and goes in for a slam. He goes and this

(49:09):
is an NBA slam dunk contest dump that he goes
in for to give the Pacers a one thirty six,
a one thirty eight, one thirty five lead now with
fifteen seconds left to go, So no trying to get
to the free throw line for the Pacers.

Speaker 5 (49:24):
They go in get the easy.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
Bucket and so now it's the Knicks with a three
point facing a three point deficit, with fifteen seconds left
to go. He was fouled on the way up, but
it doesn't look like they called the foul Again. I'm
try trying to do the show and talk about what happened. Yeah,
he didn't bear the brunt of it either. Fender get
popped in the face. Yeah, Mitchell Robinson went up and

(49:49):
clearly committed a foul on top and I don't believe
he got whistled for it. So I think it's gonna
wind up being nick basketball with fifteen seconds left in
their down three, even though Brett Goldstein kept yelling where
so WHI so so where so?

Speaker 7 (50:03):
I got the volume up here, guys, and it was
hilarious and you'll you'll hear it during the break. We
can't play it unless we bleep it, okay, oh okay? Sure,
And the ball went off Bronson. When they reversed the call,
somebody in the crowd yelled.

Speaker 4 (50:15):
Bool duty.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
That was Spike Lee. I'm sure it was spink. Nobody
told it. It might have been shallow.

Speaker 6 (50:22):
May shout, he shout, shout, drunk shout, and an absolute
catastrophe at the garden. What looked like it was going
to be a crowding achievement and a blowout victory. Now
we've got a three point game, nixt looking to inbound
h with fifteen point three.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
Uh, I mean again, this is gonna be disaster for
the Knicks. This is I really, I don't know how
you would come back after this. Jalen Brunson misses a
three and it goes. It doesn't even draw iron and
Karl Anthony Towns three hits the front of the rim
with a couple of seconds left to go. The Knicks
now the ball is out of bounds with two tense

(51:00):
of a second left to go. I believe it's Indiana
basketball and that's gonna do it. And the Pacers are
going to absolutely steal Game one in a game the
Knicks had all but wrapped up. I oh man, I
don't know what to say. I really, I don't know
what to say. I gotta get my mind right, Harmon.
I need to time out. No, this was truly I

(51:20):
need to time out four of it. Like you were calm,
and I got to give you credit, right because it's
close game first half. Maybe you were just being nice
to my ear drums.

Speaker 6 (51:30):
You weren't, you weren't over the top, Or maybe you
just saw that it was the Eastern Conference Finals, so
you needed to be measured in your approach either way.
I was very uh concerned because we didn't get your
normal Nicks vandom.

Speaker 5 (51:47):
It's like who took it? Who took your soul?

Speaker 1 (51:49):
I mean we were we were at the next that
would be the Pacers are up by fourteen with three
and a half left, and and somehow a perfect ending
by the Pacers is gonna wind up when they're gonna
wind up winning this game no matter who gets the basket. Well,
there's two tents in a second left, so it's gonna
be an incredible Knicks collapse again. I don't know how
you come back the rest of the series for this.
I an't too wide open looks here. On this last possession,
I could see. I coun see the Knicks losing by

(52:10):
twenty in Game two. I can see it happening.

Speaker 5 (52:12):
I can there's no stopping that will be topping. Unreal
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