Best of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon

Jason Smith and Mike Harmon open this 'Best of' edition of the show reacting live to Game 2 of the Knicks vs. Pacers Eastern Conference Finals matchup. Jason explains how he knows the series is pretty much over at this point, and explains his theory on why opposing players tend always seem to play their best at Madison Square Garden. Then, the guys question whether Tom Brady could come out of football retirement to quarterback Team USA in the 2028 Olympics now that flag football is officially in. NBA insider Mark Medina joins the show to help console Jason following his Knicks going down 2-0, react to the All-NBA rosters and more!

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(00:51):
It's over. The Eastern Conference Finals is over. The Western
Conference Finals is over. Had a good run. It's over.
It's over. Johnny, how did it sound at the end
just a few moments ago, Well, it sounded like this
type of funeral march.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
He will love it to heartheart. We'll give it back
to Brunts and Brunson from up top. Lets it go
missed it and that's it. So Indiana takes a two
zero lead in this best of seven for New Year.
They took the same to zero lead against Cleveland in
similar circumstances, winning the two games in Ohio to start
the series.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
Here they win the two games in New York. All right,
So there it is. Pacers Radio Network. Yeah, look, this
is what I know. You've listened the last couple of nights,
bad place, mentally, not great all of this. But here's
where I am right now. It's almost like and it's
not a full relief because it's going to be over
the course of the night tonight, right, but after the

(01:46):
show is done tonight and then the weekend's gonna hit here,
and by the next time we do the show, it's
gonna be three zero Pacers. Is that by the end
of tonight I will be my equilibrium will be back
to zero because the last couple you know, it's been bad,
right since this awful loss, worst loss in the franchise
history of the Knicks in Game one, most devastating loss.

(02:07):
I told you they were going to lose Game two.
I knew they were going to lose Game two, and
they did, right, So it's all it's over again. Seventy
six and six teams that go up two zip, teams
that go up to zip on the road? What what
is it? Eighty one and one? Has anybody lost being
up to zip and going on? I don't think that's happened.
But although wait, wait, wait didn't they wait? Did the

(02:28):
Mavericks do that to the Did Heat do that to
the Mavericks in the NBA Finals? Was that two zip lead?
I gonna look that up. But anyway, okay, so eighty
one and one, what does it matter? But I know
that when the end of the show comes tonight, I'm
going to feel that that bit of okay. Mentally sports wise,
the worst is over. The series is done. The Knicks

(02:49):
have lost. They gave away Game one. It was embarrassing.
They had nothing left there. Tips is getting completely out
coached by Rick Carlisle. As we've seen, the Knicks have
no answer for whatever the Pacers want to do offensively,
and it's been different game plans Game one and Game two.
The Pacers clearly know what they want to do and
the Knicks are trying to react, and the Knicks offense
always completely stalls and gets back to Hey, whatever Brunson

(03:12):
can do, that's how we do it. Now. He's done
it so often, So okay, I'll live and die with
Brunson shots. I'm okay dying with that three at the
end of the fourth quarter when they were down three
and eight seconds left to go. Right, Brunson's the guy.
But honestly, I know by the end of the shows,
I mean, yeah, I'm good. I'm good, and you're gonna say, oh, no,
you're not.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
Not.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
No, I'm good. I tell you when i'm when I'm
when i'm low, I'll tell you when i'm fine, I'll
tell you when i'm up. I'm going to be fine.
Because this was going to be the result following Game one.
There was no way the Knicks were gonna come back
from that devastating a loss, that devastating a loss, and
I and you know, to hear so many people say, oh,

(03:52):
it's just one game, it's just like It's not just
like they blew a five point lead in the last minute.
This was they blew leaves that we have never seen
before in the history of the NBA, or was it
fourteen fourteen, or at least till they were keeping track
right team teams up nine with fifty seconds left to
go in the fourth quarter. Going back to the mid
nineties when they started keeping track fourteen hundred and fourteen

(04:14):
wins and no losses like this, sometimes there's a there's
a mental there's a mental aspect of things you just
can't come back from. And it's not that that the
Knicks that that the Knicks team is going to come
out slow. It's not that they're going to just to
to to not have an effort. It's that when you
blow a lead like that, eventually you start thinking, well,

(04:36):
the worst is going to happen to us, because it did. Right,
This is just what it is. Right when we had
Rick Buker on the show last week and he said,
and I said, listen, you know, for the Knicks, with
with the Celtics and in the Celtics areas, I knew
they were going to come out and not really have
an effort in Game five and they're going to try
to go home and win it in game six. And
Rick said, you know you're right because you do see
a lot of teams. I see a lot of teams

(04:56):
that come out for a game and they know we're
not going to get the calls they're not gonna go
our way. And if it happens that way in the
first quarter, they go see and they put it away
and it's a blowout and they come back for the
next game like that's what I That's what I knew
was gonna be. Game two for the Knicks was going
to be. Yeah, they're gonna play, but they're gonna know
disasters around every corner. They're not going to attack this
game from a standpoint of confidence, from a standpoint of

(05:19):
a game plan where they know they want to execute,
and the Pacers smell blood and they're all kinds of confident,
they're all kinds are ready to execute that. When they
started the way the game that way today, I said, boy,
that's gonna be it. Man Sakham scores the first eleven points.
Sometimes the beginning of the game is everything. Sometimes it's nothing.
But I knew the Pacers are not coming in here
as self satisfied, ready to just go home. Hey it's

(05:40):
one one, We're fine. They said, no, we did it
before to Cleveland, We're gonna do it here to you two.
And that's exactly what happened. I knew this was coming
because that mental hurdle of a loss like that is
really difficult to get over, and it's gonna be in
the back of their heads whenever they play the Pacers
the next two games, next year, two years from now,
when Halliburton's still on the team, is a long as
those guys are still there and brunts are still there,

(06:02):
it's gonna be there. Look what the Pacers can do
to the Knicks. The mental advantage that the Pacers had
coming in was going to be too great because they
were gonna come at it from no matter what the
deficit is, we can win, and let's get out big
and make them quit. And the Knicks maybe not make
them quit, but make them realize and lose whatever confidence
they had.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
It.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Yep, it's just gonna happen to us again. And you
saw the way the Knicks ran around defensively and the
Pacers able to move the ball and wind up with
an open three, and they always hit the open three
when they needed to. There's something to be said for
execution as well, But to see the Pacers play this
game that way and the Knicks really seem to lose
composure and confidence as the game went on. That's why
I said I told you this was coming, and when

(06:43):
I know the result is he is coming, I'm going
to accept it a lot easier. There's a little bit
of that release that I know. Okay, Well, I don't
have to be so wound up about the NBA Playoffs.
They but I don't have to be so locked in
on the Knicks every day because they lost the first
two games at home. It's just going to be a
matter of time till the season ends. Realist, I get it.
I understand. So by the end of the show tonight,
maybe by the third hour, I'll be laughing and making

(07:05):
fun of the next but I know by the end
of the show, Yeah, Okay, I moved on. Mentally, I'll
be in a much better place, which I want to
get in a better place, because I don't want to
be in the mental place I said, no, terrible r.
I was just sitting around counting the minutes until this game,
not so I could watch it, just so it could
be over and I can deal with the result. Because
if they won, hey, it's still a series. It's great.
I could be excited. If they lost. Okay, I knew

(07:26):
it was going to be this way, but I knew
how I could react, and I knew I'd be I'd
be able to deal with things.

Speaker 5 (07:30):
Well, you've got a pile of cheese that you can eat.
I just need you better before you have a long
drive for the weekend in sporting events where you're listening
to disturbs version of sound of silence over and over
again and tormenting your family. That would be bad. From
land to basketball, I see that there are four hundred
and sixty five instances of playoff status at any round

(07:55):
where it got to two to oho and thirty four
of those teams came back to win, including No. Last
year's Pacer. Now, in terms of winning on the road,
I don't.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
Have that subject. Yeah, I don't think that's working on
that data point. But it's gonna be less than thirty. Yeah,
it's gonna it's gonna beyeah.

Speaker 5 (08:11):
Because one of those thirty four was the Pacers over
the Knicks. Yeah, just last year. Yeah, But all of
that to say I you said quit, I'll just say
that the Knicks perpetrated a fraud on me.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
I thought they were I thought they were tough. No,
I thought they were tougher than this one.

Speaker 5 (08:27):
And I thought that they would be The fans and
everybody would be said in the bodegas and sad having
last call at three thirty in the morning after seeing
a Broadway show or whatever yesterday and whatever the Catharsis was,
but that the Knicks would be.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
Able to come back, and they did battle back.

Speaker 5 (08:44):
Right, it's a one point game with fourteen point one Brunson,
it looks like he gets the turnover, but he's got
all sorts of jersey and what you get the uport films.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
That's an MSG whistle. I was kind of surprised that
they put out there. But well, because as that ball
saled bounds, he even looked back. It's like, yeah, yeah,
the video review is gonna take quite two seconds. Like nope, no,
but look, but there was a tear away. The dude
would be shirtless. There's a there's a different I have
no shirt. I don't know how you lost it. Sorry, Nick, basketball,

(09:15):
it's stuck to his hand like he's Spider Man. No,
there's a difference between quitting and there's a difference between
playing on an edge where you're ready for things to
go wrong, for things to not go your way again. Slowly,
over the course of that game, the Knicks were never
able to take control. Every time they busted out a
three to four point lead, the Pacer they hit a

(09:35):
big three, and that's gonna be my memory of the
series is gonna be all the three is the Pacers
whenever they wanted one.

Speaker 5 (09:40):
Now, the Miles Churner one is the one that sticks
through two games from me, because these other guys gonna
have games Like Siakam, while he wasn't a dominant score,
was still their leading score at twenty per game. And
we've seen him in the past in the playoffs, he's
had big moments, so him starting to get hot didn't
surprive me. Miles Churner setting up in the corner and
looking around like, well, you're not gonna come check me.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
Yeah, I'll take a shot like that. Look and there
and and look and everything is going the Pacers way.
The Pacers are playing their best basketball right now right
the Pace playing their best basketball right now. And I
give them the nod right because they're they're playing incredibly well.
The comeback coming out this game. Uh but look that
I'm saying this all plays into why I said the
other night, that's it, man, that's it. And people who

(10:24):
tried to tell me and going to oh the Knicks
have to I don't know what you're talking about. Man,
this is not happening, This is not it's I don't
think people really understood exactly what happened because they're in
society now, we're in it. We're in an era where
and it's and it's thanks to politics. This is this
is not gonna be political conversation to workcase. It's a

(10:45):
Friday night, right, wondn't be full of positives. Seven Even though
the Nicks lost, is that there's certain things that happen
and and you know, even ten years ago in politics,
something big would happen. You go, wow, that's gonna be
a story for two weeks, and it is, and it's
something that's it's such a huge development, and you think
this is gonna be a story for the rest of
this month and beyond. But now at the point in

(11:06):
politics where a big story gets out and yeah, it's
a story four half a day and then we're onto
something else. Right, it has no staying power. No one
story has any more staying power than it's. Look at
this shocker now, because we're reinventing politics every single day.
So because of that, we you know, hey, Okay, we
can move on. We move on from things in sports,

(11:29):
It's not quite that way. And I know, and I
know the way the way this game comes out. And
then when you got into the following day after Game one,
you saw so many pundits and experts and former players go,
all the Knicks have to put this behind They get ready,
they will, They'll have Brunson, they'll have towns of this.
I'm not like, you guys are insane. You guys played
the game. You know what happens to some, to some

(11:49):
teams mentally, when you give up an all time worst
loss for your franchise in an NBA history, When you
lose a game that no one has ever seen, you
lose it away two ways that no one has ever seen.
Fourteen points with three minutes left to go, nine points
with fifty one seconds left. There's not coming back from that,

(12:10):
and and and and when I watched the breakdown of it,
whether it was on TV list on the radio, I
said to myself, they're not giving they're not giving nearly
enough attention to the fact that this wasn't just Team
A blew a lead late and they won. This is
not hey, it was a seven point later this was
this was an all time NBA choke. And when you

(12:32):
think of the Halliburton shot and the miracle, something breaks
in you, and something breaks in your confidence and how
you approach games and how and how you deal with adversity,
and and no one was giving that enough enough weight.
And that's all I saw in this game is yeah,
the next consider and say we're ready, we're ready to go,
ready to come back, right, come back. But I saw
in the middle of the game, when they're running around defensively,

(12:54):
I said, they're lost. They're absolutely lost. The Pacers are
still getting open shots and the Knicks are playing hard
because it's not like the Pacers ran away. It's a
nip tuck game. The Pacers take out a big lead,
the Knicks buckle down and they make shots. But eventually
the Pacers start making their shots too, and it's a
little bit too much to ask, and the comeback doesn't
get there. I said they'd lose between ten and twenty.

(13:15):
They lost by five. It doesn't mean I saw the
result coming. And this is why, again, I knew this
was gonna go this way, and no one gave enough
credit to just wow, when stuff is really bad, you
have to sometimes you have to sit and go, all right,
this is way worse than we thought it was, and
we really have to understand, and you know it not
to make it to go away from politics. Is this

(13:36):
is more something that everybody can understand, is that anybody
that has a kid and something happens in their lives
right where they're you know, they're ten, they're twelve, they're fourteen,
and it's like, oh, my best friend's not talking to me.
Why because she thought I said something that I liked
something on social media and I didn't. I didn't mean

(13:57):
to hit the like button because it kind of made
fun of what she said, so I unliked it, and
then you know, she got mad at me. And you
just want to say, your reaction is gonna be, well, okay,
so you make up what's not that big a deal?
So you hit a button the wrong button? Why is
that a big deal? That's fine, don't worry about it.
And that's your reaction because that's what you know as
an adult. But for a kid, you have to understand, Hey,

(14:20):
this is their whole world right now, their whole day
is my day is ruined because my best friend is
mad at me. Whether you think the reason is legitimate
or not. It's their whole day and their best friend
is mad and your kid is upset. So you have
to come at that from the perspective. Okay, I have
to understand how you know that this is a deal
for you right now. This is something you are dealing

(14:40):
with and instead of blowing it off saying everything's gonna
be fine, you need help, you need advice, right, I
need to understand that position. Nobody understood the position that
the Knicks were in after the way they blew Game one.
It was boy, what a horrible choke job. But we're
on to Game two. Hey, what's up next? Here we go,
we're talking about RG three and Ryan Clark and Caitlin
Clark and Roy Clark and Dave Clark five, and Dave

(15:03):
Clarker played basketball and Dave Clarker played baseball and all
the that's TJ Dave Clark five. So no one really
understood that this was the reality after Game one.

Speaker 5 (15:12):
Now, I'll tell you this, with all of that you
mentioned the other stuff going on in media, I'd rather
talk about Roy Clark's far more entertaining to me than
the other nonsense that's been swirling about in the verbal
slap fights.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
I made it.

Speaker 5 (15:30):
Good for views, good for your Q raiding. Everybody knows
who you are. You all look like a bunch of dopes.
But it comes back to the professionalism of what I
anticipated and look at. Shaking off tough losses is difficult, right,
you've coached your daughter's softball soccer. I watch my daughter
with soccer games. Most games, she's okay with it, not

(15:51):
happy if they take an l But it's a fairly
quick reset because there's other stuff to focus on.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
And I get it.

Speaker 5 (15:59):
You're in New York, so you've got the eight hundred
pound gorilla on all the billboards. Hey, the Knicks choke
this way if you're walking around. I mean, that's all
that's there. But again, I'm expecting you, as a professional,
to get back out there and do your job, right,
say tie back to Belichick, do your job. I think
I owe M seven dollars now, but either or I

(16:19):
owne Robert Kraft seven dollars. Either way, the point being
that you have to flush it right, that's just the
way it works. But since you didn't and now you're
down two oh, we get to put back on the
table something we theorized, I don't know about a month
before the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
Is the thin.

Speaker 5 (16:37):
Haired, thin skin, red faced, surly hands, folded arms on
the sideline? Is he getting ready to walk the plank?

Speaker 1 (16:48):
I'd rather think about Giannis Yannis. Yannis will save us?
Is he wearing a cape ex exit? Is this Roy Clark?
Is this Roy Clark? Oh? This a little bit of
Roy Clark. I gotta explain the Generation X with Roy
clarkas I mean, not not non millennials or gen Z

(17:11):
like jen X who Roy Clark is. Yeah, but that
man could pick it. He used to have commercials I
remember growing up where he would he would do his
own guitar lessons where you would teach you a chord
at a time and you would put like stickers on
the guitar world your fan, he would say, And you
get your sticker and you put it on the neck
of the guitar, and you're able to learn cord by Clark,

(17:33):
let's go. I'm already okay, I'm already doing better. Because
the series is over. I mean eventually we'll get some
Roy Clark bad jok in too. And the Mets are
losing and the Hurricanes that are gonna go out to
I hate they were terrible. Okay, they didn't bother to
show up at all yesterday. Exit out about a Fresco
exit swelling Dome. Jason Smith and Mike Harmon live from
the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Coming up next, we got

(17:55):
a big story out of the NFL. We'll continue to
bring you here from Tom tim coming up later on
this hour. But we have a big story out of
the NFL. Is the greatest quarterback of all time coming
out of retirement. That's next. Jason to Mike and Roy Clark.
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Speaker 1 (18:27):
See I can hit another three again. The Knicks fell
down by ten and couldn come back. The series is over.
We don't need to play the next two and the
Pacers and the Thunder. We'll play it finals. No one
will watch, not even stream, not even if it was

(18:52):
on Apple TV. My favorite part is the podcast version
of this is just You Singing at Acapella. Not truly
well done.

Speaker 5 (19:05):
Paul Simon's coming to town in a month I've already
started to write the letter.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
Can you dedicate this to my friend and colleague? Can
you do instead of you can call me? How you
can call me Tibbs? Can you do that one? Can
you do that? Man walks down the street. He says,
why am I? Why am I down?

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (19:23):
Two to the paces Now the rest of my life
is so hard. I need a shot of redempse three
point opportunity. Uh yeah, oh two pacers going home. I honestly,
I'll tell you Nicks aren't gonna win a game. It's
gonna be four games and that's it. They're gonna lose

(19:44):
Game three by twenty in Game four by twenty. Wow,
just like that. It's gonna be it. Man, I'm telling you.
Have I been right so far about telling I've been
right about the Nicks. I've been right. I'm telling you.

Speaker 5 (19:53):
See, part of me is thinking you were playing the
ropidope thing, because he and I were actually talking.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
About this a little bit early.

Speaker 5 (19:59):
He goes, you know, riding the lightning, you know what,
would it was better for the show, And it's like, well,
there's the if they win. Now the Knicks are back,
so perhaps it's four hours. Yeah, Nicks and then and
then as opposed to the I can't console you. I mean,
you have cheese and it's not helping. Yeah, you got cheese.
Now that you got the Mets losing, that doesn't help.

(20:20):
But it's a Friday night. Yeah, it's a holiday weekend.
We will be in the studio on Monday and chatting
with you across the globe. But all of that to say,
I didn't know which and sad Jason, retail therapy, Jason
eating cheese and still not finding happiness.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
It concerns me. Like I said, by the end of
the show, I'll be fine. I'm hopeful mentally I will.
Maybe Magic Johnson will give us a tweet or two.
Maybe maybe because I look, because in the end I
knew it was coming. I need the morning time and
I'll be done morning by the time we get to
the end of the shop.

Speaker 5 (20:54):
Should I get to the guy at the local shop
to rip a box of cards for us and we
see what we get, And I mean that might be entertaining.

Speaker 4 (21:01):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
I'm trying to find some wins here for I'll tell you,
I'll be fine. I'll be I'll be absolutely fine.

Speaker 5 (21:05):
Mary's finding sad song after said yeah, it does.

Speaker 4 (21:09):
Make you feel better, though you are like kicking ass
with the freestyles off the dome.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
Well go thank you, that's good. Say yeah, hey, you know, look,
dome is my my thing. Rest ninety nine percent of
the NBA population is happy that the Knicks are losing.
The one percent is me and NBA television rights holders.
Those are the ones who right now shallow may is
living living it. Yeah, but you know shallow ma is
twenty nine. Okay, share you suck it up. You have

(21:35):
you got some years. Okay, you got some years. I
get it. He's got skin in the games. I mean
looking Larry, No, he is Larry, Larry did yeah, yeah
he could have tripped Miles Charner. He didn't. He couldn't.
I got tripped by Larry David only in the next game,
but were sapping. I mean, what are you gonna do?
We'll hear from TIBs coming up in a few minutes.
I wonder if he has one word answers like he
had after Game one against the Pacers. But potentially big

(22:00):
news today, football wise, not NFL wise, but football wise,
is it. There's been some charge, a lot a lot
of people reporting that potentially Tom Brady could come out
of retirement to quarterback the Laws, back to quarterback Team
USA in flag football in twenty twenty eight, Brady would

(22:25):
be fifty years old flag football twenty twenty eight. Now
I'm in he can't. He doesn't have to take a hit.
Nobody's gonna be at his feet. But that's true. No, listen,
I look, what would I say I have too? I
have two big takes this. My first one is why
not it's gonna look like the Dream Team against Angola

(22:46):
from nineteen ninety two when it's when it's Michael and
Magic and Barkley and Bird and final scores are one
oh eight to twenty four, and players are going to
be saying, hey, I when I'm standing next to a
guy in the free throw line, get a picture so
I see what it's like. Backs to this guy. No
one's gone. And I know that flag football is a
little bit different, and it play five on five. Okay,

(23:07):
we're gonna have the best football players in the world.
I don't think anything's gonna be close. If something is close,
I'd be just done to beyond belief.

Speaker 5 (23:14):
But I mean, there are professional professional no, there are
bag football players out I.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
Gotta think we have the great I gotta think, you know, basketball,
I think we have the greatest football players in the
world in the United States. I'm just telling you. I
just think the United States we're gonna We're gonna we
got the greatest football players in the world. I don't
think a team from Canada is gonna know. I don't
think a team from Mexico or Amsterdam is gonna show
up and say, we're really gonna give the United States

(23:41):
all a can handle unless they change of rules and
it's more like Australian rugby than it is flag football. Na,
I think we're gonna be okay.

Speaker 5 (23:48):
What are the rules if you start to run by me,
like say a Tyreek Hill and I just grab your
flag preemptively, is it dead there or does he still
get to run down and catch the ball.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
I think that's a preemptive flag. I don't know about that.
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (24:02):
I don't talk about different things in the rules. How
much contact is enough the play is over for you?
What do you mean, Hey, I barely touch that guy down,
it's over for you.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
Can't do it. You flatten that guy? He ran into me? Like,
what do you want outside? You're out of the play,
go to the sideline, you're out of the play. You're
out of the play, and be like we're gonna win
that bad? So okay, Brady, why not? Right? Why not?
And if I'm an NFL team, I am more than
happy having that because I don't want my quota over
getting her. What did I tell you from the beginning?
And oh, by the way, like we told you being
ahead of the curve when this topic was talked about

(24:33):
this week and today with break, Oh, I don't want
my guys out there. Yeah, that's nice. We told you
that like five days ago. I don't want anybody from
my team out there. Not that I have to worry
about Jets players being out there, but I don't fast
as hell though. Okay, I know I still don't want
him out there. I don't want him out there. Well
in two years say it, he could be if he's
not on my team in two years, Hey, go ahead, play, Hey,
go ahead.

Speaker 5 (24:54):
That ain't doesn't even have to dry Nobody's trade for
you to get rid of him.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
Guy, nobody from mex beat it. So I think everybody's
gonna be okay with with Brady doing now. Oh yeah,
I don't have to have my quarterback go and worry
about some sort of strained strain, injury, strain or injoy. Okay, great,
because you know that's what everybody we talked about.

Speaker 5 (25:12):
The John Harbaugh quote from the other day, right, Actually,
it wasn't even from the other day. That was from
back in March when this was first starting to percolate.
He goes, clearly, I've got a guy who would excel
and dominate.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
I don't want him to play. No, I don't want
to play. I don't want him out there. You know
how is all of a sudden this is accepted for football,
but for World Baseball class, Oh, it's such a great thing. No,
it's a great thing for the rest of the world,
not great for us. I pull you to Edwin Diaz
two years ago. Hey we're celebrating. Oh, I'm not for
the end, right like I like for football. Everybody seems
to be on the same point ful, grammatic. Yeah, we

(25:44):
don't want our guys now. But but for baseball, Oh,
I'm played. It's so great And no, it means nothing.
The World Baseball Classic is a made up event. Everything
is made up about it. It's not the Olympics. It's
not even close. Yeah, but it's not. BIG's gonna come
and kick kick Does it matter? Toma already yelled at
me on the air over it one. Oh, I remember
he got so mad, Jason, Jason, Jason. I'm telling you, Jason,

(26:07):
he wanted to throw you out of the country. Yeah,
he was really mad. Why do you not love your country?
How do you not love the Red, white and Blue?
I really wanted to say, Tommy, can we talk about
the performance and the performance here? Performance? With performance? I mean,
I mean he yelled at me when I know what
he might he might have that would have been good radio.

Speaker 5 (26:26):
We might have gotten more dumps than we did with
the famous Eric Dickerson.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
So Brady, go ahead, play. It's not gonna matter. We're
gonna roll the gold medal. It doesn't matter. Now. The
one thing I will say is this, because I did
feel this the first way, is that you know, there's
lots of people who play flag football, who do it,
that have Olympic dreams, like, hey, this is what I have.
And especially I think about the one guy who said
he's the Mahomes of flag Yeah, and he can't even

(26:50):
know it's terrible. I'm like dude, I can throw better
than you, and I'm in my fifties and my arm
hasn't been good in like twenty years, and I can
throw better. I can throw farther than you. Come on, man,
you just tell that football. How about that? We get
Uncle Rico.

Speaker 5 (27:02):
Out there from the football John and what grys or yeah,
let's go.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
But like, I do feel really bad for the guys
that play flag football, that do it almost for a living,
that should be able to play. Right, we're playing flag football.
You know, you go to a big tryout and we're
gonna pick Team USA, and they're gonna go play like
you got this guy, gotta have it. I do feel
for those guys because suddenly, hey, we have this big
Olympic dream. We're all gonna go play. It's gonna be awesome.
But the NFL says, oh no, sorry, guys, we're bringing

(27:29):
We're bringing bringing the A team to this. Ah okay, great,
But I.

Speaker 5 (27:34):
Do feel for those guys. I feel for him for
a minute. You can be on the practice squad, you
can come and hang out, you can go uh shag malls.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
I don't know. And here is Tom Brady being benched
for Benny Simonson. Benny Simonson is a liquor salesman out
of Warroad, Minnesota. Here he is, boy, I tell you.
In the Beer League he plays in thirty eight touchdowns
last year. Let's see if some of that last minute
Benny magic is out there again. Brady really struggling, So
here comes Benny Simonson. But it goes back to the

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old tenant of the show.

Speaker 5 (28:06):
And I know your life in radio and TV before
you and I got together here, and certainly for me,
it's a running joke of all right, what's the monetization
possibility of any of these kind of events? Right, if
you're going to spend your time on it, what is
it costing you in terms of times and dollar output?

Speaker 1 (28:24):
Or what are you getting back? Right?

Speaker 5 (28:25):
You got that's how you're making your decision in the world.
For the NFL to say, yeah, go ahead and do this,
they have already three steps ahead in terms of whatever.
The Professional Flag Football League is coming to you as
an offshoot of the NFL with the global reach starting
in the Olympics.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
Ergo, yeah, hey, we're all on board. No, I don't
want my guy to play. He can have his guy
Bay because we only need ten guys. That's the other
part of it. We don't need to feel fifty two. No, no, no,
you We need ten guys, ten and probably some kind
of reserve. We here's our taxing squad. Yeah, but all
of it to.

Speaker 5 (28:59):
Say, hey, it comes down to, all right, who's QB thirty,
thirty one and thirty two. You're still better than the
guy that set's over there throwing a football over the mountain.
You guys are quarterbacks. And now we build from there.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
It's gonna be like when when mister Burns put Homer
in for Daryls Trumper. But I have nine home runs.
Ah well, they think of it as a very well
played game, and sit down and enjoy your success. This
is what manager's strategy coach. I got playing the percentityach.
I got nine home runs today. Oh boy.

Speaker 5 (29:34):
But but that's it right. I appreciate the dream. I'm
all about dreaming.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
Right. Part of it is, you know, if you can
tream it, you could do it right. All of those
self help things to the tune of billions of dollars,
Maybe we were right one of those.

Speaker 5 (29:46):
It started a video series of that you can treat it,
you can do it, brought to you boy, Jason and Mike.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
But I appreciate that. But there's a lot of money
to be made here and global exposure. TV show wins
time find out what's trending in the wide world of
sports from man who's been called the Tom Brady of
Fox Sports Radio. He's not happy about the roast of
his life we had from a few months ago. It's
Steve de Sega.

Speaker 6 (30:11):
No, the only roast in my life is like Sunday's
dinner coming up. That's about the extent, Steve.

Speaker 5 (30:15):
If you'd gotten the twenty five million dollars that Brady
said he got, would you have been okay with it?

Speaker 1 (30:20):
No? Okay, No, that's a no.

Speaker 6 (30:23):
Although you know people who already have twenty five million,
that's kind of an odd question.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
They trade it all for a little more, Okay.

Speaker 6 (30:30):
Yeah, all right. By the way, the New York Knicks
have lost the first two games at home in a
playoff series for the first time ever, and no no
team ever in a conference final has lost the first
two at home and still wound up winning the series.
Indiana wins at New York one fourteen one oh nine tonight,
two games to none. Lead in the East Final. Pass
cool Siakam with thirty nine points Tyrese Halliburton with eleven assists.

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This is the first time in Knick's history that they've
lost five home games in a single postseason. The NBA
record is six home loans losses in a single postseason
Boston a couple of years ago, and Boston three years ago,
and a couple of other teams.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
Meanwhile, we've got I thought you said we were done
updating this game. Okay, just give the one and that's
it all coming through final score. That's it. Hey, okay,
let's you said you said last that we're done updating
the game. All you've done is update it in the
last hour.

Speaker 6 (31:20):
The updating mean the game. The forty eight minutes of
the game was over.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Semantics. Yeah, okay, no more game. Wait, I'm going to
roast you. Wait for the Steve to Sega roast you.

Speaker 6 (31:33):
Wal score is still in lights on the board and
not change.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
It's one line, just like the next season. Yeah, okay.

Speaker 6 (31:41):
Jalen Brunson did have thirty six points and eleven assists.
The All NBA First Team, led by Shay giljis Alexander
in the WNBA four games Tonight, Minnesota Edge Connecticut seventy
six seventy among the late games expansion Golden State is
still winning at LA with about seven minutes left vent
one to fifty eight to the NHL Playoffs Game two

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of the West Final to Edmonton in a three zhe
shutout victory at Dallas that series even at one. A
reminder Fox TV will have the Indy five hundred this Sunday.
The Dodgers are holding on in the bottom of the ninth.
It's now five to four at the Mets, where there
was an over hour and a half rain delay in
the top of the third. So yes, at this late
hour they're still going. The Dodger closer Tanner Scott earlier

(32:26):
this week allowed a home run in the ninth, they
kept him in and he allowed a home run in
the tenth. Tonight he's thrown close to twenty five pitches
in the bottom of the ninth and gotten one out
and allowed two runs. So it's a five to four
LA advantage and the tying run is at third. Well,
no longer there's a base hitt the left, the game
is tied. Scott has allowed three runs in the bottom

(32:48):
of the ninth. It is even at five. I was
almost gonna say at Shay Stadium.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
As City Field.

Speaker 6 (32:57):
It seems like it's been a while since anyway. The
Angels are leading six to one over the Marlins. Angels
have won seven in a row. Philly has won seven
in a row and leads one nothing in Sacramento against
the A's bottom of the seventh A's have lost nine straight.
The Padres won on a solo homer top of the
night by Manny Machado two to one at Atlanta that

(33:18):
ended a six game losing streak for San Diego. The
Braves did activate Ronald Acunya today and he homered in
his first at bat. Had been out for a year
with a torn acl homeward on the first pitch back
to you.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
Thank you, Steve. The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon, Coming up next, Tibbs is speaking. Oh
are we gonna get more than one word answers from
a guy that's been completely out coached by Rick Carlyle. No,
that's next, Jason and Mike Fox.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
No, I think it's over nah met show, Thank you,
Mary Neither. It's over Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith
Show with my best friend Mike Armie. Yeah, Pacers beat
the Knicks like I told you was gonna happen. One fourteen,
one oh nine. They lead the Eastern Conference Finals to
games to none. Do the Knicks have any hope? Do

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the t Wolves have any hope? Joining us now in
the hot line longtime NBA insider, longtime front of the show.
You can find them on Twitter at Mark g Underscore Medina.
It is the aforementioned Mark Medina.

Speaker 4 (34:31):
Mark.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
What's happening?

Speaker 4 (34:32):
Man?

Speaker 1 (34:32):
How are you?

Speaker 6 (34:34):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (34:34):
I don't say that the troll, but I'm probably doing
better than you right now.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
Oh no, no, you absolutely are one hundred percent. But
by the end of the show. I will be fine
because I knew this was coming.

Speaker 4 (34:44):
So let's just establish. Am I here to console troll
or both? What do we got?

Speaker 1 (34:49):
Well? How about how about this? How about is t
you up? And we'll go from there? How about that?
You ready? Okay? It sounds good percentage chance this series
is over because I have it about one hundred and
seventy five percent chance the series is over.

Speaker 4 (35:03):
Wow, I think it's seventy five percent chances. It's not
quite like that.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
No, I have one hundred. I said one hundred and seventy.
This series is over. This series is over.

Speaker 4 (35:13):
I think it's only seventy five percent chance. I think
it's still that twenty five percent chance that they can
come back. It's better than the slim odds that Mary
Swanson gave you know, Harry or Lloyd about you know,
one to million about them and Dummer.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
Right, So I'm saying there's a chance.

Speaker 4 (35:30):
Oh yeah, sure, there's a much better chance twenty five
percent odds. Uh. The reason I say that is very
few teams come back from O two. It's happened before,
but very few. The Pacers just have much more depth.
They've been more consistent than Knicks. Look tired. I don't
know what I'm getting from coloradton announcement night to night
basis and Jalen Brunson is playing out of his absolute

(35:53):
mind and is putting himself in that conversation of Nick
goats and it's still not enough. So, uh yeah, they'll fight,
all compete because that's what they do. So because of that,
it's technically not over. But you know, this is a
tough Hall.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
You because the NBA has TV partners and they have
two games and the advertising is sold. The series isn't over,
but we're gonna play two more.

Speaker 4 (36:17):
Games, and you know what, there there might be a
frozen envelope express mail coming.

Speaker 5 (36:23):
It was a full week of conspiracy theories, no doubt,
so why not fuel a few more. But final minutes
of this game mark is we're watching it unfold. Pascal
Siakam Early and then Halliburton and seemingly everybody else. The
Miles Turner one is the backbreaker for me standing in
the corner by himself.

Speaker 4 (36:43):
Yeah, and look, Pascal, he's an all star caliber player,
so not like he's a scrub. He didn't come out
of nowhere. They made a huge deal to get him.
His chemistry with Tyres Halburton's great, but he's not a
superstar player. Thereby, to put up thirty nine points, that's indefensible.
No one was over and him. I think the other
thing that's very troubling is Tyres Haliburn didn't shoot the

(37:03):
ball well, he only went five to sixteen. Now, you know,
his value obviously is always in passing first. I mean,
he did have eleven assists, but if he's not a
scoring threat. Usually that leaves the pacer vulnerable. But you know,
to their credit, they roll like eleven deep. They do
have eleven They do have a lot of depth. But

(37:24):
how the stake isn't having his best game. The Knicks
got to take advantage of that. And again you look
at the effective channel Brunt said, thirty six points. Even
all their starters played relatively well except for Carl and
the talents that minus you know, minus twenty and plus minus.
But everyone else showed up to play and still not enough.
I mean, it's it's inexcusable across the board.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
Well, because I'll say this is like watching the first
two games, right, Like, yeah, I was saying, what do
I know about basketball? But when I see the Pacers
attack the Knicks one way in game one and attack
them a different way in game two, win both games.
You have three different players now with over thirty points
in the first two games for the Pacers, which doesn't happen.

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The Knicks look like they're reacting, and I see them
reacting slow defensively, they don't know where to be on
their rotations. Tibbs is getting rings coached around them by
by Rick Carlyle in this series.

Speaker 4 (38:20):
Yeah, I think Tom Thibodo is going to team up
with JJ Ruddick pretty soon and call you out with that.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
He was terrible. He's gonna be out of a job.

Speaker 5 (38:29):
So unless he's doing as a commentator, we'll love Danny
Hurley next year.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
It'll be fine.

Speaker 4 (38:34):
Okay. So here's my defensive tips. I'm not gonna say
you put on a coach in quantify aning means Rick
Carlisle has been the better coach in the series, but
I would say it's also because the Pacers have had
the better roster. Now, in the regular season, the next
starting five is better than the Pacers starting five, but
that hasn't been the case in this series. And when
you add in the fact that they have more depths,

(38:56):
it's kind of like, what do you expect? I mean,
And again, here's why I don't put Tom Tabodak fault.
Who is who else is he supposed to play? Like
any calls for Oh well, if only he played Cameron
pay in a few more minutes or PJ Tucker, how
about given him some time. I don't think that does anything,
So I guess it's point of vetteran for worse like

(39:16):
the Rosy have to bring it and if not, they're
going to get blown out.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
No, I don't think market's about who to play. But clearly, hey,
the Pacers did you know succeeded in game one and
the Knicks clearly expected something they weren't getting because from
the beginning you could tell the plan was is going
to take over this game? Right, you don't just accidentally
score the first eleven points of the game like they knew,
we're going to take advantage of this situation. And Siakam

(39:42):
has a game of his life and the Knicks didn't
know how to respond. So whatever it's like, whatever Rick
Carlisle has had, you know, has had as his play,
the Knicks can adjust to. And that's what I mean
by by Tibbs is getting like he's he wasn't ready
and they couldn't adjust toe Siakam having the hot head
and still he's opened for big threes, he's still able
one on one. He looked like Prian Kevin durant to night,

(40:02):
like he was Durantula in his prime.

Speaker 4 (40:05):
That's what tonight, Mark, You know what that that is
a fair point. You know, rotations, I don't fault tips,
but here's where the next art fault both coaches and players.
They got to play at their own pace. If you're
going to get in a track me with the Pacers,
it's going to be you Saint Bolt versus Jason Smith
in a fut race that it's so lopsized out of

(40:28):
him funny. So you know, again, the Pacers are doing
this because they have the speed, they have the depth.
The Knicks they have to muck it up. They gotta
be nineties mixed. They have to be physical, and I
haven't seen enough of that discipline on closeouts as well
as just being organized. You know, you don't have to be,

(40:48):
you know, the fastest or most rugged team in the world,
but if you communicate you're on the same page, you
can often minimize those stakes. And again it's just fundling
that it was still overwhelming despite the fact that the
Knicks you know, won the rebound in battle Tyres Halburn,
did not shoot the ball well. Their star player, Joe Brunst,
has played out out of his mind. You add all

(41:10):
those things up in a normal circumstance, that should mean
a win for the next but because of the pacing issues,
it became a much different outcome.

Speaker 5 (41:20):
And Jason's already to ship Cat out of town for
anybody with a near a max deal.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
This is why I'm not a good GM, because I'm
I'm ready to make a movie Bridges before the playoffs started. Yeah,
he's taking them all out.

Speaker 4 (41:34):
Mark. Hey, you know what, Uh, we're talking about the
Wolves and their struggles. I mean maybe they swapped Julius
Randall given.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
Hey, can we get games we'll get Yeah, we'll get
Devincenzo back. Now, I'll be fine that I'd like that
trade that trade back, trade back baseball cards where someone's
parent went and figured out what the true value was. Mark,
if you're going to give that card back, Mark, if
we make that trade, it's going to be Karl Anthony
Townsend Og Hannoby for Giannis. That's what's going to happen. Okay, just.

Speaker 4 (42:02):
Hey, you know what, I think that the Bucks should
be trading me on us up to Cumbo that had
three first round exits. Damian Lillard is probably not going
to be back, and if he is, he's not the
same player. They're going to be in the Hampshire Wheel.
If they just say, oh, we got to keep our
star player just because you know what, this might be
a blessed the Sky's Jason that just think of how

(42:24):
bad and upset and angry you are right now. This
just greases the wheel for that huge deal. And then
next year is when that championship parade finally happens. I
know you've heard it before, now you hear it again.
Just wait till next year.

Speaker 5 (42:38):
If the trade that he proposes goes down, Mark I
will literally walk into the commissioner's office and say, show me,
you know frozen envelops. Prove to me none of these
conspiracies are real. If oh Gianna, no, but yeah, because
that's bringing the Bucks closer to anything.

Speaker 4 (42:56):
Come on, yeah, I think they trade whole starting lineup
to get you.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
Honest, that sounds about right now. We'll we'll keep brought
Brunson and Jonnis. We'll play two on five. Will be good.

Speaker 5 (43:07):
Okay, So you gave the next twenty possibility of coming
back from two to zhou t Wolves.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
What half that? A third that and ate that? What
are we talking?

Speaker 6 (43:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (43:18):
I think this is a Mary Swanson os to Lloyd.
Here's the thing, the Thunder, they're a much different piece
when you have the MVP with Sajjus Alexander, the best
defensive team in the league, so many wing defenders, great
front court players, great chemistry, and they're young. You know

(43:40):
what that means. They're night and day above and beyond
the challenges of the Wolves face and the playoffs with
a Golden State Warriors team that had Steph Curry on
the bench because of a hamstring injury, and a Lakers
team that didn't have any real centers and no real defenders.
So I'd say that with full reconition that the Wolves

(44:00):
are legitimate team. They've raised their game to another level
up until this series. Julius Randall is not the Julius
Randall the New York Next of being either ineffective or
not healthy in the playoffs, and he Edwards has grown
once again as a young star in every category, scoring, shooting, passing, leadership.
And they do have bench deff that's just not the

(44:23):
same kind of depth that the Thunder have. And so
they're putting up a good fight. They don't lack for confidence.
It's just that, you know, the Thunder just above and
beyond ahead of the rest of the Western Conference. So
I think if it goes more than a sweep, now
it's just a gentleman's sweep because of Thunder leather guard
downing game career Game four. But I can't see how

(44:46):
this is going to be competitive the rest of the war.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
I'll go go you won further markt we talked about
this last night. If I put the over under for
Oklahoma City Thunder losses the rest of this playoffs at
two and a half, I'm taking the under because I
don't think anybody out of the East can give him
a series in the finals. They're just that much better
in their proving. I think we're gonna look back at

(45:09):
the end of the playoffs and go, man, how did
the Nuggets take them to seven?

Speaker 5 (45:12):
Like?

Speaker 1 (45:12):
I mean, they're really just playing that much better.

Speaker 4 (45:15):
Yeah, well, look, I think the Pacers have shown through
each round that they're a real deal. They're respectful. I mean,
they beat Cleveland even though they weren't fully healthy. That
team was still the best team in the East. You know,
they're running laps around the Knicks and they're not gonna
beat the Thunder in a presumed NBA Finals, but I
could see them win a game or two. Tyres Halburn

(45:38):
not only is the best passer in the NBA, but
you know when he's aggressive He can be a really
lethal scorer, as we saw in Game one that crazy
shot where's on the line, hit the back of the
rim and dropped in. He can have those kind of moments.
But the thunder Shay is just a scoring machine. He
does it naturally with amazing playmaking, but he also does

(46:02):
it to the annoyance of opponents with finding the angles, flailing,
exaggerating and getting some SAG awards. But he's also has
a lot of good options around him, like Jalel Williams
has become a much more consistent score He's prepared for
that moving on and off the ball, his pick and
roll coverage chemistry with Ched Holmgren and Isaiah Hartenstein, it's

(46:27):
just like clockwork. And then defensively, that's what really drives
the offense. They have so many wing defenders in Case
and Wallace, Aux Cursus, Jallel, Williams, Loue Door. They create
so many easy baskets because they're getting steals, deflections, chasing
loose balls. They really don't have any weakness other than
they might not bring their a game every single night.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
So finally it's it's the end of award season.

Speaker 5 (46:51):
We saw the All NBA teams announced today SGA with
the MVP Award Eddie Shock In any of the first
or second team seeing Lebron as the second team or
any of that stand out to you.

Speaker 4 (47:06):
No, not really. I think what you saw was what
you expected, right, I mean Lebron's second team, he would
bat and I if it was in his prime. But
he's forty years old, so I think if anything, that's
like wow, like still play at All Star caliber level,
it's still pretty impressive.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
So waity, don'd you write a whole column about how
Bronni was completely snubbed off the All Rookie team? I
think I thought you wrote that article.

Speaker 4 (47:30):
Yeah, you're right, You're right. I'm exposed here, I'm exposed. Yeah, Ronnie, Ronnie,
Bronnie should get a Max steal this upcoming summer instead
of trying to give Luca donca to an extension, because
it's about the Lebron and Bronny show. It's not about Luca.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
Okay, Hi, good, just wanted to make sure. Just want
to make sure you can follow on Twitter at Mark
G Underscore Medina. That's at Mark G Underscore Medina Mark
as always, Buddy, appreciate it, great stuff. We'll talk to
you next week when we uh for real we preview
the Pacers and the thunder.

Speaker 4 (48:04):
Yeah, and I'm sure we'll start worker shopping some more
next trade ideas.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
Yeah, very good. Well, no, we don't need any more. No,
it's honest, like, yeah, yeah, it's honest. That that's that's
that's what's happening. There's no other trade offer going on.
It's honest.

Speaker 5 (48:17):
He's holding up his one finger like he's doctor Strange
one telling all the possibility.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
This is, this is this is only a nick fan
thing where they could be in the middle of the
Eastern Conference finals and no, I want to talk about
next year. See you buddy, have fun market, all right,
take it is. I I really do feel like I
am gonna be okay, and maybe about an hour and

(48:44):
a half from now, I am, I am, I am.
You got a bowl of ice cream cream, bowl of
ice cream sandwich. No, we had a lot of cheese
tonight that they had cheese cheese. Jeez, jeez, jeez. It's
good coming up next Hey, it's not just be honest,

(49:05):
we're talking about potentially moving on after this year. What
about Lebron James, Lebron James, that's next Jason to Mike
Fox Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my
best friend Mike Harmon. Yes, sir, really, not my night.
In sports Dodgers have two in the top of the thirteenth.

(49:27):
They lead the Mets seven five the Mets. I'm not lying,
I'm I'm not saying anything that I'm being The Mets
have left eight runners on base in the last three innings. Yeah,
no runs. And this is why we can't have nice.
This is like when I say you deserve to lose,
you deserve to lose. Not my night. This is not
my night, my garment not mine. You know what, You'll

(49:47):
get up and get after it again. Tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (49:49):
You'll stop and maybe you'll get a donut. Not my night,
nice big coffee, not my night. You'll sing some show
tunes in life will be better. So we talked about
potentially Jannis being on his way to the Knicks. You know,
certainly Karl Anthony Town's getting bench in the fourth quarter tonight.
It's not quite been the season that the Knicks have

(50:10):
expected from Karl Anthony towns.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
Odega got shut down. I think it started out how
they thought it was going to, but it just didn't.
I don't think that they said. I think they expected
this offense and and Karl Anthony Towns to be a
little bit different spot right now than it is. And
getting bench with the fourth quarter. Wow, man, I go
with Mitchell Robinson all the way.

Speaker 5 (50:30):
You basically saying we don't need offense now, we need
someone who's gonna get at least give us some modicum
of extra effort.

Speaker 6 (50:38):
I mean it is you know that that.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
Really that's really something. It's really something when you're number
two guy, he's bench with the entire fourth quarter. So yeah, Uh,
could I see a Karl Anthony Towns Anernobe type deal
for you?

Speaker 5 (50:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (50:50):
Absolutely, I can see that for you, honest.

Speaker 5 (50:51):
But the other one on the tay say that forty
five times, it just magically by say it one more time,
will it happen?

Speaker 6 (50:59):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (51:00):
The other thing is, and we told you this a
couple of weeks ago. Get ready for this to be
the last year in LA for Lebron. A couple of
reports in The Athletic also sam Ammick that Lebron's relationship
with the Lakers is quote a frosty one. This is
something that came out earlier. Today's relationship with the Lakers
is frosty, and you know, potentially there's always a chance

(51:24):
he can walk. Now, I don't think that's gonna happen.
He's not going to turn his back on fifty million dollars.
He's not going to get that from somebody else. But
short of a Western Conference Finals run next year, this
is it. We told you this year is it for
Lebron in LA. They have already hit frosty, They've already
put him at arm's length. He has already been someone
that look, you don't run the team anymore. They trade ad.

(51:47):
You and Rich Paul don't have the poll that you
once did, so Lebron is kind of on the outsider.

Speaker 5 (51:53):
Now.

Speaker 1 (51:53):
The Lakers aren't going to simply just say okay, we're
gonna do it now at the bed. No, they want
to give Lebron and Luca more than two months to
get something go because maybe it works out. But clearly
I see this short of a Western Conference Finals appearance
next year, and that might not even be enough. Lebron
is finishing his career the last couple of years someplace else,
probably Cleveland, And he is finishing his career someplace else.

(52:16):
It's not LA.

Speaker 5 (52:17):
One year fifty two million dollars, no trade clause, one
of the rare contracts in the NBA. He's taken swipes
at the front office. Go back to a d right ah,
and you know the last guy that talked about big Man,
he got traded.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
So no, I'm not gonna do that.

Speaker 5 (52:32):
Should you know what advice you're gonna give Luca about,
you know, helping to build and whatever. I don't have
any advice for him, right, That's not my thing to
talk about that. So he's distanced himself in every respect,
and certainly Luca coming to town realizing you have to
pass the torch not doing it quite so gracefully. He's

(52:53):
gonna keep taking little baby steps to make Luca chase
him to take it. But certainly the frosty relationship to
that does not surprise me. Something we talked about weeks ago.
As you start reading the tea leaves of how they're
constructing twenty twenty five, twenty six.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
One and done for lebron in La and then Hello Cleveland,
I'm back to finishing off Me and Bronny and Bryce.
We're all here. Coming up next more on the biggest
story of the night. Fox