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This is a no Hobo week now right. It's a
no hobo week, ty shirt, no hobo week, no hobo week,
all right, very no hobe. To say no week means
I'm here all week. I mean wow, are you sure
about that?

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Yes? Okay, it's making okay.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Let's making sure because usually say I'll be here every
day and then the next two days you miss Yeah,
but then I remember, I go to see you something. Hey, Hey,
I'm the best part of your day.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Are you kidding?

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Do you want to see other people and you come
in here? Come on, man, you know I'm happy with
Steve's here. You don't want That's all my It's why
it's a no Hobo day. It's no Hobo day, No
no hobo. Uh So, hey, big day in the NFL.
Quarterback is back and who knew we missed that show
so much. But it's not often that a big anniversary
just stands out so much in the world of sports.

(01:39):
But you know, look, it's it's a it's a thing,
uh that fifteen years ago today, you know, all of
us who were old enough, we all remember where we were,
We all remember what we saw, we all remember seeing
And I don't know that I feel like this is
a hot take, but I don't know that really is
Steve is that I think this is the biggest moment
in basket for the last twenty five years. You want

(02:01):
to go back to two thousand, This has been the
biggest moment for basketball the last twenty five years, which
is kind of nice. Saying in twenty twenty five, you
can look back to a nice round number of two thousand, like, hey,
this is the biggest story, the biggest thing the NBA
has had in the last twenty five years.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
And it was summer of twenty ten. Lebron James was,
to say the least a known quantity in high school
and congratulations for the Cabs not blowing it in the
standings and still being able to draft him. It was
looking a little dicey there for a little bit, and
the question was was he going to decide to stay
in Ohio or decide to go elsewhere. It's kind of like,

(02:40):
I think it's Martin Weiss on our airwave says a
lot of these draft like the NBA draft recently, this
really could have been done in a memo. But okay, fine,
you're having the I mean, people hockey fans left and
right across the continent complained about TEA draft show this
year that man, this is taking a long would you
just announced the next already, Lebron James in this announcement

(03:03):
it took, as I recall, it was sixty to ninety minutes,
it was an hour.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
It was an hour, and it was it was an
incredible day. Look, the night turned out to be not
great for Lebron James, right, we know this, right, you
see how it is aged. You see how the decision
is aged. And it turned out to be not great
for him. But it was an incredible moment for basketball
and the decision which turns fifteen today. There's been no

(03:29):
bigger event in the NBA the last twenty five years.
And when Jim Gray, finally, after an hour hour plus
of sitting in front of a bunch of kids from
the Boys and Girls Club, finally asked the question that
Lebron James was going to answer.

Speaker 4 (03:41):
To, the biggest play chance just gets hit, the ball
is loose and it's alive.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
Yeah, I know, I think. I think in the NFL
that's up there, last twenty five years, that's up there.
But in the NBA, which is basketball, Oh yeah, this
fifteen years ago tonight the.

Speaker 5 (04:02):
Answer to the question.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
Everybody wants to know, Lebron, what's your decision?

Speaker 6 (04:07):
And this fall, man, this is very tough, and this
fall I'm gonna take my town's to Salva Beach and
joining Miami Heat.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Miami Heat.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
That was a conclusion you woke up with this morning.

Speaker 6 (04:20):
That was a conclusion I woke up with this morning.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
So there was after it, and you know, so no
one really clapped. It was like, whoa, no going to the.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
He get more cheers at some high school or picking
a college. Oh that's on a hat.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
I mean, just think about it for a second, right,
Because I heard this was in the you know, the
middle of my first run at ESPN, I could peel
back the curtain and tell you. I'll tell you a
great story about the decision.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
By the way, this clip that we just played of that,
I honestly thought they were gonna go to the clip
of Jim Gray so you still bite your nails?

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yeah, I thought I light the I thought we were
gonna get the fail Mary on Thanksgiving Day from last
year of the Jets Dolphins. But it was this, this
is champions come and go, big players and go. This
story this stopped time. Here's Lebron James, the best player
that we had seen, a guy we want to fill

(05:08):
the void for Michael Jordan, a guy who has been
so incredibly polarizing his entire career. We didn't talk like, yeah,
Jordan was around before social media, but he still was
a dominant conversation piece. But sports talk radio really didn't
start blowing up until the late nineties early two thousands.
By this time, Michael Jordan was at the end of
his career. You had sports talk radio on the weekends

(05:30):
in the early nineties, it wasn't really every ESPN radio
was only on the weekends at that point, so he
really hadn't had that explode. Jordan really got to survive
and thrive in an era in which his every move
wasn't documented. Lebron James was the first big star of
that era. And when he said I'm gonna become a
free agent, I'm going to decide where to go, that

(05:51):
was the dominant story. Every day was something new he
visited with all the different teams, and every day, well
to and hey, the Knicks are showing up to have
their presentation to Lebron James and Donnie Nelson. I think
who was who was running the next the time had
like you know, broken his un ankle or something had
to be wheelded in a wheelchair to give the presentation

(06:14):
to the to Lebron and his taeelchair.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
Paul Pierce.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
No, no, no, no, no, no no no no, this was
this was like he had to be wheeled in and
he saw teams and they were and every every day
it was how did this meeting go? How did this
presentation go? And there were rumors that, hey, he didn't
really he was kind of tuned out during the Knicks
because it was the same type of presentation that the
Nets had for him. And and everywhere here.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
Is doing his Shoudur Sanders impersonation.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
Everywhere you looked, it was where is Lebron going to go?
And it got dragged out and there was no story
that stopped time more than this, Again, biggest thing the NBA,
because we're still talking about this big situation fifteen years later.
I mean, yes, when Lebron is still playing, he's still
playing really well. He's still someone who was pushing the
conversation forward. He's still the guy we talk about the

(07:01):
most in the NBA. There has been no bigger moment
and fallout than what we had with the decision. Because
after Lebron made a decision, he became public enemy number one.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
He left his hometown team.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
How do you leave?

Speaker 1 (07:12):
How do you leave Cleveland to go play someplace else? Well,
because he got together with Dwayne Wade, and Chris Botch
the Olympics. Wouldn't it be cool if we all played together? Yeah,
where do you want to play? And Dwayne Wade said, well,
we got the salary cap room on my team.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
Okay, we'll go to the Heat. Like it was that simple.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Like that, pat Riley gets all this credit for Hey,
we but no, they walked into your office and hey,
we all want to play here together. Let's make it work. Oh,
we'll just cut everybody, sign you three and then that's
what we'll have going forward. But this was I mean, really,
there's been no bigger moment. We won't talk about Steph
and their and their championships, Lebron chased down Block, we
won't talk about the Lakers back to back championships, the

(07:47):
back to back Lakers Celtics finals, nothing as much as
the decision because all these other stories were big. But
this the world ceased to exist when it was what
is Lebron going to pick? Where is he going to go?
And I'll tell you this, Stephen A. Smith had it
and we didn't go with it at ESPN. Okay, now

(08:08):
you got to go back to the time. This is
this is fifteen years ago, this is twenty ten and
Stephen A. Smith wasn't quite the person he the personality
he is now, You mean he was more respective he
was Yeah, well he was still an NBA insider, but
he was making he made the twist to go to
the turn to be a more personality driven at ESPN
in first take. So when he would have something, it

(08:28):
wasn't always oh, here's a big insider like it wasn't
like woj or Shams or Jay Glazer or Adam Scheft
or waste. You know, Stephen, He's got this. And every
day leading up to this, for like a week and
a half, there was a different so and so is
reporting Lebron's gonna go here, right, like, Hey, Lebron's gonna
go to the Lebron's gonna go to Cleveland, Lebron's gonna
go Lebron's gonna go to Dallas, Lebron's gonna go to

(08:50):
the Lakers. Lebron's gonna go to the Knicks. Like there
was I can't tell you how many different reports there
were by so many different outlets. And then like about
I think a half a day before day and a
half before the special, like he had it and he
was saying he's going to the heat. He's going to
the heat. I got this, He's going to the heat.
But because it was so crazy, like, we didn't report

(09:13):
that as ESPN. Like normally, if an insider comes out
and Adam Schefter says, hey, so and so is getting traded,
the report is never Well, if the report is true
and Adam Schefter is right, it's oh hey, Adam Schefter says,
this is happening, this is going on. When Jake Glazer
says this goes down, it's okay, this is happening. We
treat that as it's a breaking news story. But like
he said, he kept saying, it's the heat. I got it,

(09:34):
it's the heat.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
It's the heat.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
And I remember coming into work every night, you know,
everyone going, okay, new stuff. Is there anything that we're reporting,
And the last couple of nights coming in, it's and
I remember I remember saying to my producer saying, hey,
Stephen A. Smith, he's pretty seems pretty certain that it's
the heat, and they said, yeah, but we're not reporting it.
We're not reporting it as fact. It's just we're just
you want to mention it when you talk about it,
but we're not reporting it, So I don't know what

(09:57):
kind of battle there went there, there went on, but
he could have had the biggest scoop in the history
of sports baseline. You look back and hey, Chefter getting
the Andrew Luck retiring thing, Wow, what a big deal.
If he had Lebron a day and a half before
the decision, that would have been the biggest scoop ever.
But it was just ESPN didn't go with it as
an official thing for whatever reason. Like I didn't ask

(10:18):
about I just said, Okay, we're not going, but I'm
going to talk about it and say Stephen A. Smith,
if he goes to the heat, X, Y, and Z
and my producers and the managers all said, yeah, that's fine,
go with that as long as you say this is
what Steven A. Smith says, I if and you leave
it out there now, I don't know if part of
it was they didn't want to go with it because
here's the special that's gonna air, which.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
They didn't own, right. We didn't want to work for
ESPN at the time.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
So I don't know if there was kind of a
decision where, hey, this is a big day for basketball,
we're not going to report this because you know it's
a big deal and we're taking the wind out of
the sales because there's a special that's coming up. Or
if it was just we don't want to say this
and get it wrong, because if we say this and
get it wrong, then we make it enemy of Lebron,
making end of his new team, and it becomes a
whole big thing.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
I think Chris Brusar the day of had mentioned it,
but you talked about what a huge deal it was.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
Sure.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
This anniversary is July the eighth. July first is when
free agency starts. Yeah, so it's to say the least
had build up by the time the actual TV show
the decision starts up.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
There were teams that were saying, we have to pull
out because if he doesn't come to us, we're stuck
because other free agents were getting signed. I wish I
could go back to that. That probably two or three
week span. We got to the end of the NBA
season and Lebron was was going to be a free
agent and and was going to be Lebron sweepstakes like

(11:39):
that entire run. I can't even tell you how every
day was filled with energy and confusion and excitement, and
it was I could still feel I still remember the
energy of that story, and I think back, I still
remember the energy of big plays in the NBA finals.
I remember big, big draft picks going on in the NBA.
Maybe Cooper Flag getting draft will be a big deal

(12:00):
one day, but there's not been anything bigger in the
NBA the last twenty five years. And the decision and
so much that has fallen off of it and come
out of it the last few years because nobody's ever
done that again because they saw a boy Lebron really
made himself put himself into a corner there with with
this whole decision thing because it didn't go over how
he thought it was going to go over. So now
nobody does something like that anymore. No one's going to

(12:21):
try to do it. But still the impact of that
that here's a here's a player who can now take
all the empowerment away from from other teams and and
and say I'm gonna grab this for myself and I'm
going to have a special and I'm going to say
where I'm going to go, and I'm going to take
ownership of my career and my brand and everything else.
Like this was This was such a such a a

(12:46):
trendsetting day in so many ways for the NBA, for
NBA fans. I mean, I can't imagine what it would
have been like without it. I mean, really, NBA, everybody else,
you know where you are. I remember where I was
when I saw it. I remember the big intake of breath
I had at my house when he said he's going
to the heat, like he's really going to the heat.
I think even Jim Gray was surprised because Jim Gray
said Miami heat like like like nobody said anything. So

(13:08):
I wonder if Jiff Jim Gray is thinking, Okay, nobody
heard what you said. So I'm gonna say Miami heat,
Miami heat, Miami Okay. So that that's you woke up
with this morning.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
That's kind of a sixty minutes type follow up there.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
Yeah, yeah, mind me. Let's playing one with me a
little more. Please play one more time. You can hear
what I'm saying. That Maybe because he said mat did
no one here because no one was applauding, Noah was
clapping one more time? T shirt The answer to the
question everybody wants to know, Lebron, what's your decision.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
In this fall?

Speaker 5 (13:35):
Man?

Speaker 6 (13:35):
It's very tough and this fall, I'm gonna take my
town's to South of Beach and join in Miami Heat.

Speaker 5 (13:43):
Miami Heat.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
That was a conclusion you woke up with this morning.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Yeah, that was a conclusion I woke up.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
With this morning.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
You're like two clips.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
Yeah, hey, but Miami show noise is it really is
going to be the heat?

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Right, It's really is the heat.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
Okay, it's it's going to be the heat.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
And by the way, part of the reason this is
so big in the year since is because what happened
with the Miami he You referenced Chris Bosh he had
just joined this same off season to Dwayne Wade in Miami.
Now you had the heatles, you had the big three together,
and yes, four years and four times winning the East

(14:20):
and Lebron two time MVP in the league out of
those four years. So it was the follow up of
always winning the Eastern Conference Miami of you know what
really cemented this being a big story. It was big
in and of itself for that summer, but now we
look back on the long two decade career of Lebron

(14:42):
and there's proper context.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Really, I mean, tell me something that was bigger, that
had a bigger impact that was bigger at the time. Yeah,
you could have the most watched Game seven of the
NBA Finals. Ever, it's not going to be what this
was with everybody just waiting with Baita. I'm gonna watch
this show for an hour. You know he's not. I
can answer the question till like at least forty five
or fifty, it doesn't matter. I'm gonna watch for just
in case, I'm gonna watch for an hour, Gonna make

(15:06):
sure we got it.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
One item before we break A's All Star shortstep. Jack
Wilson has just been hit by a pitch on the
hand and left the game against the Atlanta Braves. Oh
boy in the first inning. Ooh boy, not good news.
And the Mets have taken the lead in extra innings
at Baltimore.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
All right, we have more on this coming up. Jason
Smith Steve de Sager in for Mike Harmon. Happy fifteenth
anniversary to the decision. I guess it's apropos that on
the fifteenth anniversary of the decision, we have an NFL
decision that one quarterback probably would have done.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
Differently if he gets his chance.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
Get to that coming up next right here, Jason Smith
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(17:07):
anniversary of the decision, and uh, I guess it's just
the Steve. Did this be the one year anniversary of
the Kirk Cousins decision?

Speaker 3 (17:15):
One year of the decision? He'd probably do over.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Yes, I think there was a There wasn't even a
six minute show for get sixty.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
Uh So Quarterback is back the Netflix show. And I'll
be quite honest with you, I didn't know how much
I missed this show until all of a sudden, bang
bang bang we got We got a host of stories
coming off this today with the first episodes and the
and the the teasers being released. Uh stuff with Kirk Cousins.
We'll get to the Joe Burrow crazy story coming up

(17:44):
in a few minutes. But he realized that we're so
thirsty for NFL right now, Like this is okay, it's
we're just pass the fourth of July.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
Everybody had their vacationous, I'm there, I'm thirsty.

Speaker 7 (17:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
The bad news is all we're gonna get in August
is preseason and I need I need at least the
teams to be on the field together. We're all like
dying for it now, and all of a sudden, here
comes quarterback and we're like, oh, what an unbud. Look,
the the month of July on the schedule is crying
for incredible NFL content, right because we've had enough of
the off season. We had free agency, into the draft,

(18:20):
then into mini camps and then okay, and now it's okay.
Now it's away for a month. I need I need
something like it's it's it's the arit it's the Gobi
Desert of NFL programming, and all of a sudden, here
comes quarterback.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
To save us all.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
It's like walking out, we walk finding an oasis, just
jumping out in the rain, like like Tim Robbins and
shawshing when he gets out for a sorry spoiler, when
when he crawls out through all the worst muck and
filth you could ever want to imagine, and the rain
is just downsion. By the way he pulls the shirt off,
it was a pretty good one.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
And he pulls his shirt off and the.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
Rain is he he's he's seeing the outside as a
free man for the first That's NFL fans, right now,
go give us something and we get Quarterback.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Now, not all of us subscribe to what gave us
Quarterback or today or last year for that matter. So
I have yet to and may never see an episode
of Quarterback. But the way you're framing it is the
timing of the release, not necessarily that it's better than
any of the HBO stuff that we've gotten over the years,

(19:26):
because they have in season HBO stuff, you know, with divisions.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
So you're missing on Kirk Cousins, Media star, You're missing Kirk.
You didn't know Kirk Cousins, who has a has a
room under the stairs like hand like that, and he
and he you know, he shops at Target and and
Coohle's and and and you know, Patagonia and all these
This is who Kirk Cousins is.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
He's on Home Guy.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
He is, yes, And so now that the new season
is going to be chronicling Kirk Cousins and and a
couple of other quart including Joe Burrow, but Cousins, who
was such a big story in the first Quarterback because
we got the story of of of what he would
like and how different he was and and and look,
Kirk Cousins kind of cut through the clutter of Oh,
this is not how you expect a quarterback to act, right,

(20:08):
you get you get the Mahomes. Okay, Mahomes that's great,
you understand. Mahomes is the big superstars dealing with things.
Here's Marcus Mariota, who is trying to stay a starting
quarterback in the NFL, and it's about a journey. It's
kind of like a mini Hard Knocks. And here's Kirk Cousins. Yeah,
he's been good for a while, he's got got paid
a lot of money. Why is Kirk Cousins so interesting? Oh?
I get it, I get it. Kirk Kirk Cousins is

(20:28):
the guys. It seems like a real regular, albeit eccentric,
a little you know, kind of weird dude, but but
kind of a little bit more down to earth.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
Than you'd expect.

Speaker 6 (20:38):
This.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
I mean, this is Kirk Cousins weird. He's he's like,
you know it, Kirk Cousins is kind of like the
friend you have that.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
Yeah, he's a good dude.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
He says a couple of things once in a while,
but it's a good dude. Like that's kind of how
you feel.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
Even the head lies today of what he said in
the episode, I don't find terribly controversial.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
Well, here's well, this is the one year around versary
of the decision. So now Kirk Cousins, who was still
a member of the well, I'm gonna get everything is
going to be the decision coming up. We got Joe
Burrow's decision with the batmobile. We got all these things happened,
the decision to walk Alonzo.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
You boy, we're gonna get that thing some September game
and you're gonna have an anniversary for.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
The Everything is a decision. The decision.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
So Cousins, who is still backup quarterback with the Atlanta Falcons,
the Falcons have said, hey, we're going to keep him
rather than trade him.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
He's valuable to us as a backup.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
Clearly, nobody will trade for Cousins with the contract that
he has because last year in the offseason, the Falcons
gave him four years, one hundred and sixty million dollars,
only to see him watch them draft Michael Pennix Junior
in the top ten and then midway part of the season.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Later part of the.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
Season, Cousins is not playing well. He's dinged up a
little bit. He loses his job to Michael Pennick.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
And we do relate that by the way, he didn't
play well because of the shoulder.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
He's not so they went and he lost his job.
Now Michael Pennick Junior is the president and the future,
and Kirk Cousins is a thirty plus million dollars a
year backup.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
It is not at.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
All how he thought it was going to go, not
at all how the Falcons thought it was going to go.
But we'll have the good Falcons in the second. So
here's Cousins. And this is the first big thing coming
off of the second season of quarterback.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
Is that he says he felt the.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
Falcons weren't really truthful with me when they told me
what their offseason plans were at quarterback.

Speaker 4 (22:27):
I wasn't expecting us to take a quarterback was so
high at the time, it felt like I had been
a little bit misled, or certainly if I had the
information around free agency, it certainly would have affected my decision.
I had no reason to leave Minnesota with how much
we loved it there if both teams are going to
be drafting a quarterback high. But I've also learned in

(22:47):
twelve years in this league that you're not entitled anything.
It's all about being able to earn your spot and
prove yourself sar.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
He was saying he was misled by the Falcons who said, yeah,
we're going to take a quarterback. But here they are,
Michael Pennick Junior is there. They take him in the
top ten. Now, this is where Isaac, when you think
I'm gonna zach?

Speaker 2 (23:06):
He felt misled.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
He felt misled, Well, and who knows what they told him.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
They may said, yeah, we're gonna take a quarterback, but
don't worry about it.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
We just gave you four years, one hundred and sixty
million dollars. Right, they gave more money this offseason. He's
still on the team.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
What are you worrying about? Man, what are you really
worried about? What do you think you're gonna do? Draft
a guy in the top ten because he's a vent?
Come on, we're not gonna do.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
Oh wait, except they absolutely did that.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
Yes, what would have been a better thing, right, This
would have been a better thing and a more apropos
thing for the kirk Cousins to say, hey, how'd you
feel about about Falcons?

Speaker 5 (23:35):
Do it?

Speaker 1 (23:35):
Instead of saying, well, I felt misled by the Falcons
a little bit. I would have said, I didn't think
the Falcons would be that's stupid, but here they are.
Because honestly, who gives a who gives a quarterback four
years and one hundred and sixty million dollars in the
off season and then drafts a quarterback in the top ten?
Who does that? I'll tell you who does that? Nobody,

(23:57):
No teams do that. No one is stupid at the time.
It's stupid now. It was stupid a month after, it
was stupid four months after, and it's just gonna be
more stupid as time goes on. Either Kirk Cousins is
your guy and you went out to get him. Hey,
four years, one hundred and sixty million, this is our guy, man,
this Oh but wait, but a quarterback's available, maybe we

(24:18):
should take him. This is like strategy that I see
teams using fantasy drafts and it screws up their team. Well,
I already have Mahomes. But oh man, I'm telling you,
what do I do? Another quarterback is right here?

Speaker 3 (24:30):
Like I do? I go on, I take Jalen Hurts.
He's available. I mean another.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
Quarterback through the day. If I pass here, I'll take
Jalen Hurts. Why not, I'll take.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
Joll Like, these are decisions that are made in the
heat of the moment in fantasy drafts.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
This is a decision. This was a.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
Franchise altering decision. Now, I like either decision. I like
either one. I keep saying decision and decision. I like
going after Kirk Cousins. Just because Cousins got hurt didn't
work out, didn't mean it was a bad call at the.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
Time, right, And it's not over a quarter No, it's not.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
But he's not gonna be the quarter back unless something
happens to Michael Pennix and it's the NFL. I also
like going in and taking Michael Pennox in the top ten.
I like, hey, Penix has shown he could be special.
I wasn't the biggest Penix fan coming out of school,
but I'm not gonna say that, Hey, I didn't think
he could be a really good quarterback.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
So okay, he proved healthy. He's more mature than some
guys coming out. Nobody not giving him a ten year contract.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
Nobody does both of those things. Nobody, no team, not
even the Jets, do something like that. We thought the
Jets are gonna take Shador set I said, oh my good.
They're gonna give Justin Fields his two year, forty million dollars.
We're still gonna draft a quoin. It's gonna ha No, no,
why why do we draft a quarterback? We like Justin Fields.
He's our guy. He's come in and he's shown leadership
taking over. The Jets believe in him, and at least intangibly,

(25:42):
that's working other teams the same way.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
No, we got our guy.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
We're not gonna go go crazy to go draft Shador
Sanders or some other quarterback or you know, we couldn't
get Cam Word. Okay, that's fine, We're not gonna go
crazy doing it. But the Falcons decided they would do that.
That's just stupid. It's just stupid. And before you defend
it by saying people defended by saying, yeah, but they
have a backup quote doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
You know you're you have Michael Pennock Junior is on
a rookie deal.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
Yeah, just think about how great it would be if
you have your quarterback on a rookie deal and you
have that extra one hundred and twenty million dollars that
you could spend on other players to be better. Think
about that thirty million dollars that would go to Kirk
Cousins this year, or the money you paid him that
could go to other big players that could go to
bring bring something else in that you need offensively or defensively.

(26:26):
Think about how that would work. Like this made absolutely
no sense at the time, and it makes no sense
a year later. And the Falcons are absolutely stuck. I
really this was a decision and mean look and the
Falcons again, decision, decision, decision, Like the Falcons decision. Kirk
Cousins would do that decision again. The Falcons should say, yeah,
we would do that decision over again one hundred times

(26:47):
out of one hundred. Right, either you're going to get
a quarterback in the draft or you're going for Kirk Coutt.
Nobody does both. And you see how they're stuck right now.
Because Cousins isn't gonna take less money. He's not gonna say, hey,
I'm gonna take less cash and and you're gonna yo.
He's gonna make them cut him, pay him all the
money that he's doing, and then he'll go sign someplace else.
He has been a businessman from the beginning, right he

(27:08):
he wanted a big offer from the Jets the first
time he was a free agent because he wanted the
Vikings to match it. Vikings match it gave him all
the all the money guaranteed, and that changed things for
quarterbacks forever. Guys are getting fully guaranteed contracts.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
Now.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
He has been a great businessman. Don't let the Target
gear fool you. You know, he's the guy that will
show up in in you know, Target or Champion Target
Gear or Levi's or Lee or Wrangler or whatever else
some of the other styles they have there. The good
Fellow gear they have it at Target now, Oh Goodfellow
is a big thing. It's like a Polo knockoff, Ralph

(27:41):
Lrond knockoff. Like don't he will make sure that you
are paying him every single dime he deserves. The fact
it was stupid then, it's stupid now. And now they're stuck, and.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
They stuck as a good word for it. They kind
of had to pick up that ten million dollar bonus
in the spring when the new NFL league year started.
We've got training camps starting in a few weeks. We've
got two quarterbacks going, but one is a declared starter
and it's not the guy you're paying the most. They're
on the hook for so much salary, well over twenty
five million dollars this year, that it's kind of like

(28:16):
what we talked about on last night's show, How in
the world is Lebron James ever going to be traded?
Because he just opted in for a set amount that's
more than double the twenty five million by the way,
So who's going to pick up a large portion of
what the Falcons owe this year to kirk Cousins to
make a trade possible. So it's looking more and more
like he stays as the backup. You let an NFL

(28:39):
season play out, and what do you know, Quarterbacks get hurt,
even good ones, even rookies, even top ten selections. Kirk
Cousins may be playing half the season this year for
all we know. They're in a corner of their own doing.
But it's not a bad thing now that you've done
that to keep him.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
Yeah, I don't I get that they're trying to, you know,
paint a rosy picture on this. Okay, well, maybe he plays,
you know, if Pennix gets hurts, Like, yeah, no, you know,
there's a reason why you're not paying your backup quarterback
thirty million dollars a year. Nobody does Again, the Jets don't.
The Raiders don't even do that. The Raiders.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
The Raiders don't even do that. And they had a
guy they could have won a game last year.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
All the quarterback had to do was take the snap
from center and they would have beat the Chiefs. But
instead of hit him in a helmet, he fumbled. Right,
the Raiders did. Even the Lions at their worst before
Jared Golf wouldn't do something like this. But the Falcons,
I really it was this. This was getting Michael Pennick
Junior is awesome, right if he turns it, and it
doesn't matter if he turns out to be to be
bad or not.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
Right.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
The signing of Kirk Cousins at the time, whether he's
good or bad. Yeah, anybody would have done it. Drafting
Michael Pennix at the time, Yeah, anybody would have done it.
Nobody would have done both. Nobody, no one, absolutely no one,
not even if the Mets played football, and before Steve
Cohen bought the team, would the Mets do that? Not
even close.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
Speaking of Mets, not.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
Even the A's. They don't even have a home. They
wouldn't do something like that.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Just the A's not the Sacramento as. No, not the
West Sacramento. As you mentioned the Mets.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
Yes, speaking of the Mets, you have some news about
the Mets Orioles game tonight.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
We shall lead with the Mets game at Baltimore tonight
because there was about a one hour rain delay at
the start. Eventually, in ten, the Mets beat the O's
seven to six. Now the closer, Edwin Diaz, pitched a
scoreless ninth inning and then got credit for the victory
as Juan Soto had to go ahead single in the tenth.
The Mets hit two two run homers in the eighth

(30:41):
to come from six to two down to a six
to six tie. Francisco lindor Pete Alonzo with the two
long balls, and they were long each over four hundred feet.
Mets win seven to six at Baltimore. Believe it or not,
they're playing baseball in Saint Louis. There was an even
longer raind lay at the start there. And right now,
bottom of the second inning, we're past nine thirty in Missouri.

(31:03):
Cardinals scoreless with the Nationals end of two. Now they're
in a rain delay in Chicago White Sox may be
facing defeat again. Blue Jays leads six to one over
the White Sox rain delay in the top of the seventh.
Minnesota was a winner over the Cubs eight to one.
Milwaukee beat the Dodgers three to one. The Dodgers have
lost five in a row, and the winning pitcher for
the Brewers, Jacob Misarowski, allowed a leadoff homer to Shoheo

(31:27):
Tani and then struck out twelve in his six innings.
Kansas City handed Pittsburgh a fifth straight loss, four to three.
The Yankees got an Aaron Judge homer, his thirty fourth,
in a ten to three win over Seattle. Gencarlos Stanton
with a three run shot. Cal Rale of the MS
did hit his thirty sixth home run. Detroit won its
fifth straight game, four to two over Tampa Bay. Boston

(31:48):
won its fifth straight game, ten two against Colorado. The
Rockies record is twenty one and seventy one. I would
say the All Star Break can't get here soon enough,
but they still have to play month's worth of games
after the All Star Break. They have twenty one wins
and the All Star Break comes up after this weekend.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
Fifty games under five hundred goodness fifteen not fifteen before
the break.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Fifty Miami a twelve to two winner at Cincinnati Boy.
The Marlins are getting closer to the five hundred mark
now as we approached the break. Anthony Davis of the
Mavericks reportedly at eye surgery this offseason for a detached retina,
but he's due to be healthy for training camp in September.
Two WNBA games tonight Washington Beach Chicago eighty one seventy nine,
although Angel Rees had twenty two points fifteen rebounds, and

(32:34):
it was New York at home beating Las Vegas eighty
seven to seventy eight. Sabrina Yinescu with twenty eight points.
By the way, she was one of the early selections
for the All Star Game, which is coming up in
Indianapolis July nineteenth. The team captains Nafisa Collier and Caitlin
Clark had the draft of their rosters tonight. One of

(32:55):
those selected was Asia Wilson to Caitlin Clark's squad along
with You and Ask You, but Wilson in her game
for Vegas tonight, left in the first half with a
wrist injury after a fall.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
Didn't Caitlyn Clark draft Angel rees first. Overall, didn't that happen?
I thought I saw that somewhere.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Not in our dream first, Hey, come on, did not happen.
In fact, she was taken very late in the draft.
Angel Reese a reserve taken by Team NAFISA Collier. I
did notice they switched to coaches. So Collier Minnesota is
going to get the Minnesota coach. And we did have.
By the way, Caitlyn Clark news today that she is
returning to the court tomorrow. She's missed five straight games

(33:33):
with a groin injury, and number one Arena Sablenka won
her Wimbledon quarter final in three sets.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
Back to you, Nega, Steve O, The Jason Smith Show,
Steve de Sager, and from Mike Harmon coming up next. Yes,
Kirk Cousin is not the only big quarterback making news
with Quarterback release on Netflix.

Speaker 3 (33:50):
Way do we tell you what Joe Burrow had.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
To say about the Batmobile? My best advice I can
give to the ultra rich. Coming up next, Fox Sports Radio.
Don't avoid taxes, Well, pay your taxes, pay your tax yeah, ye,
don't avoid yeah, don't avoid paying your taxes. Yeah, yes,
Wesley Snipes will be on my podcast. We'll talk about that.

(34:12):
Yeah maybe mc hammerton.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
Sure.

Speaker 5 (34:15):
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Speaker 1 (34:24):
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Speaker 3 (34:49):
Of your screen.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
So here we are.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
Quarterback is back on Netflix, NFL news is coming in.
We just broke down the Kirk Cousins decision visions a
big desative decisions. But now Joe Burrow also gave us
a big story Toad with his decision. C Steve, Everything's
going to be a decision today?

Speaker 2 (35:09):
Is it really?

Speaker 3 (35:09):
Everything's a decision?

Speaker 2 (35:10):
Should it be?

Speaker 3 (35:11):
You made a decision to come into work today, didn't you.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
I think we all did. Yeah, and now.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
You're thinking about doing that over again, just like Kirk Cousins, just.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
Like Lebron James.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
Now we know that Joe Burrow, who is a part
of the subject of this version of Quarterback which is
airing on Netflix, he was going to buy the Batmobile
a few months ago. Now, you know, one of the
few Batmobiles that were on sale like for you know
that well publicized. Yeah, there was like I think there
was like five or seven of them, and they were
like three million dollars each, and he was going to
buy it.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
Remember that there was video of him a practice.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
Telling his friend, Hey, you hear, I'm gonna buy the
Batmobile and buy the BA buy the Battlebile. Now he
says on on Quarterback that he decided against it after
the big break in that happened at his home a
few months ago.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
Uh he was not home.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
Yeah, and he wasn't home and there was a break in,
and he you know, and now he's thinking, Okay, maybe
I'm not going to buy that because maybe I have
the Batmobile and and someone tries to come in and
steal it. They put on a they put on a
cape and then you get in and try to.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
Steal a battle. But actually this crime is something that
you really need to put the spotlight up in the
air for and get shure man on.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
Oh yeah, yeah, get Batman. Why but Batman can't get here?
Why because the batmobile was stolen. He gets he's gonna
get in an uber and Batman will be here really
really soon.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
I mean it was members of.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
A large criminal network. It wasn't just your neighborhood guys
breaking in. It was a whole operation that investigated I
mean they in a bad way. I want to say
this put the time in with the famous athletes, Burrow
being one of them, knowing he was going to be
gone that day, et cetera. This is screaming Batman get involved.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
See and I'm thinking of Batman getting in a way
Moo to try to try to get someplace as a
batmobile was stolen.

Speaker 3 (36:57):
He gets in a weymo into the driverless cars.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Maga, Mega left here, Mega left here, Mega left here.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
There's no one in the car.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
There's no one in the car.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
Like man.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
Maybe the batmobile was the first way moo because it
could drive without a drive.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
You were kind of doing the Christian Bale automated voice. Yes,
maybe the way more voice should be Christian Bale.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
Yes, yes, Commissioner Gordon, No one's going to know it's me,
Bruce Wayne if I talk like this, But if I
do my normal voice, people will.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
Know it's a Batman.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
So it's like when Superman puts on glasses this question,
we won't recognize him at all.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
I don't know who that guy isn't all. I couldn't
tell you. Pirate Steve. Yeah, you know Steve on our team.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
Dress is like a pirate. No, no, you talk.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
So he had a second decision to not buy the batmobile.
Part of what he says, everybody knows where I live now,
and he still lives in that house or he still
owns that house.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
Other things to deal without that point is put it.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
Maybe getting back, maybe to get to the Batmobile needs
to be lower my list of priorities. But after the
break in right now, because of course I have advice
for the ultra rich, right for you know, look when
Joe Burrow signed a three hundred million dollar contract extension, like.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
Well, well they get a paper and pencil.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
When you see stories like this, I say, okay, if
I was really rich, right, And this is just me,
but I think my advice is pretty sound.

Speaker 3 (38:10):
Right.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
You don't want to obviously, you want to avoid stuff
like this happening. You know you're not going to be
home all the time, and you know that people are
going to know where you live. They're going to see
you coming out to your car. Hey, dude, that's Joe
burrow Man. Joe burrow is next door to People are
going to know where you live. If I was really
ultra rich, right and I needed a play, like where
was I going to live in Cincinnati for the season, I.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
Would go wherever I was.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
If I was ultra rich in an athlete, I would
buy a place. I'd buy a great place in the biggest,
most guarded gated community I could, right, because at least
in the gated community, things are a little bit harder.
It's a little bit harder to have someone people break in,
take your stuff and leave because hence, gated community.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
Like Calabasas near where the Rams.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
Practice, I would one hundred try to because it's okay, right,
you can still live in a great, great house, right,
It's just in a gated community. And lots of stars
live in gated commune, but I would absolutely do. I'm
not gonna live on my own somewhere out far.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
Hey, I'm here.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
My closest neighbor's a mile and a half away. That's
that's not a great decision because people are gonna know,
they're gonna know where you live. The second thing is
when I'm out of town, if I have if I
have a three hundred million dollar contract, I'm pretty sure
I could hire an assistant or someone to come and
stay at the house. And hey, I'm out of town
for these four days or five days, stay at the house.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
I'll pay. Just say, all you do is stay at
the house.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
Nothing you need to do? And what about the game
from the house?

Speaker 5 (39:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (39:30):
Watching it?

Speaker 3 (39:30):
Here's you need anything else you need?

Speaker 1 (39:32):
Hey, yeah, maybe there's certain things you need to do. Hey,
can you you know my dog is here?

Speaker 2 (39:36):
Whatever the plants?

Speaker 1 (39:37):
Yeah, make sure you water the plants. The boy that
scene from the bear with about the plant watering.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
So another spoiler alert reference.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
No, no, no, it's just the beginning of one of
the episodes. Uh.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
Those two things. One gated community and anytime I was
out of town, I have the money to spend to
give somebody three hundred dollars a day to just live
at the house. Right, don't leave, Hey, go out and
do you thing. Just don't leave for the entire day,
of the entire night, go to the movies, go to dinner,
do but sleep, sleep there overnight, stay there. It's just
so people know that there are people there and I'll

(40:09):
pay you to go do that.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
It's just like all athletes now have the money to
get somebody else to drive them home. It should seem
like they should know that before the evening starts. It
seems like what you were talking about, an athlete should
know that before the season starts. It's a little astounding
that it's not followed up on quite as figuous.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
And then you can own the batmobile, and then you
can have the batmobile, can be in your run. You
can have that person drive it around a drive it
to the store. But just make sure you know nobody's steal. Okay, Greg,
I got I got, I got the batmobile.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
I'm all good.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
Two biggest pieces of advice gated community, someone staying at
the house. Two biggest deterrence you can have to no.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
Batman.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
I'm disappointed. I thought I would hear that much earlier.
If we were talking about the bat. It was a decision.
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Speaker 8 (41:46):
How are you, Jason and Steve? My friends, Good evening.
I do come to you from the great state of Michigan,
which is just among us friends, the base single best
place in the world to spend the summer. Tell you know,
we all lakes would all of a sudden be overcrowded
with people realizing the sheer beauty of our states. So

(42:08):
it's just among us, just among us friends. But I
will say this, the baseball team is pretty great too.
I was there with my family tonights watching the game,
so I got to be a spectator, which was a
lot of fun. And it was a bit of a
classic Tigers game from this season. They're down to nothing early,
they tie it, and then Zach mckinsree's run around the

(42:28):
bases like nobody else can, and all of a sudden,
Cole Keith comes up hit the two run over. Then
the bullpen shuts them down and the Tigers win. It's
been an amazing formula that this is not just a
good start, it's not just a charming story. This is
a really really good baseball team. Not maybe the brand
name team with the Dodgers, even the Mets, but they

(42:50):
play really good baseball and it's a lot of fun
to watch.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
Are they really this good? Jp A? Are they really
this good? Or they they're peaking now? They're a really
good team? Are they really the best team in baseball?

Speaker 8 (43:00):
Well, so here's what I would say, They've they've played
the best to this point. Now, I realize that the
ale Central is not the National League West. I get that,
but in terms of their execution and the way they're
playing the game, there's not a better team in the
sport right now. There really isn't. And they're doing the

(43:22):
little things very well. And also look at it and
realize that Carry Carpenter is not right now on the
active roster. They spend fifteen million dollars on Alex Cobb
and he's yet to throw a pitch for them this season.
Who knows if he actually will, so not everything has
gone right for them. They've had some injuries too, but
Aj Hinch and Chris Fetter, they're pitching coach really know

(43:46):
how to get the most out of this group. And
what's happening with the Tigers now is players who have
had mixed results elsewhere are coming to Detroit and getting better.
And guys like Flaarty, who helped the Dodgers Wan series
last year, decided to come back. It's a really good
culture with They've got I think a bona fide star

(44:08):
in Riley Green. And do they need one more bat
to win the World Series? Probably? There are some spots
you could argue maybe one more outfielder, maybe one more infielder.
But the way in which this lineup is very well balanced,
left and right switch hitter. There's just it's a nice

(44:28):
it's a nice team. So right now, I'm going to
say it, they're the best team in baseball and it's
up to the rest of the group to prove me
wrong or prove the Tigers otherwise. At some point between
now and the end of October.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
Tigers won tonight. If they win the next game, they'll
be sixty and thirty four this year. But I will
discuss what's going on in the Al East. Toronto with
a tenth straight win. Wow, you know, the Yankees did
win at home, and in fact, Judge homered and Stanton homer,
so I can pass along the updated Langstad They're Yankees

(45:01):
record when those two sluggers homer in the same game.
It's only forty six and seven ever since Kevin.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
That's also every game that Stanton has played since he's
signed with the Yankees, fifty three games.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
That's only playing see a.

Speaker 8 (45:16):
Bit of our listeners. That's a joke, Jas and continue.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
They are still three and a half back in the
red hot Toronto Blue Jays who've not only had, to
say the least, a great month. As we head into
the All Star break, they've got a couple of starting
pitchers and it seems like they've found a closer and
they have all stars in the lineup. I mean, the
Toronto Blue Jays, not just for a couple of weeks,
are looking like a playoff team here.

Speaker 8 (45:42):
I think they are a playoff team. I would be
stunned if they missed the playoffs. At this point in time,
they are a playoff team. Vladimergero Junior. We still haven't
even seen the best of him yet. And look at
how well they're playing. The man that's gotten them going
in my view is Boba Schett and the way that
Bo has played of late. He is the guy. And

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you referenced Sarah's statistic on Stanton and judge when Bishett
is going, he is the catalyst for the Toronto Blue Jays.
He is the one that really gets this team going.
And remember we talked a second ago about the Tigers
not getting a lot out of Alex Cobb, or actually
nothing out of Alex Cobb. The Jays have had a

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minimal production from Anthony Santander and look at how they're
playing now. In the case of the Jays, they've had
a really good season, an all Star season from Malejandro Kirks.
They have had a young player and Addison Barger look
like a budding star, and crucially, they have gotten George

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Springer the amount of DH days that he needs to
be productive, and they're being rewarded now with his amazing
bounce back season. So for me, in every way, this
Jays team, maybe they've been a bit of a revelation
or a surprise over the last month, But can I
call them a sustainable surprise because that's what I'm seeing

(47:07):
from them right now. They are a sustainable surprise with
some veterans of the rotation. Health with the pitching might
be the one thing that I'll be a little bit
worried about, and maybe they need to add to a
rental starter, But guess what, those types of guys are
typically out there and available, and I would trust the
Jays and Pete Walker to get the best out of

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a move that they might make here at some point
in the next few weeks.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
John Paul, can the Yankee still win the East or
is their best chance to do it coming gone?

Speaker 8 (47:37):
I think it certainly still win the division. This thing
is not over yet by anything.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
They've given up at a lot of real estate or
just the last three weeks.

Speaker 8 (47:46):
Yeah, they've given up a lot of real estate. They're
a team and I know that this will be said
by Yankee fans and I'm sure the media a lot
in New York, but this is a team that needs
to make a trade. They put as Chisholm back to
second base. There's a there's a gap in this, I
think in the lineup and also in the rotation potentially

(48:09):
for some impact. So we're about to find out how
serious the Yankees are about about making a run at this.
And Brian Cashman's going to have to I think if
he really wants to put together a team that can
get back to the World Series. You got to realize
it and compare side by side last year's team, which

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wasn't good enough to win it, and this year's team
and last year's team which wasn't good enough to win it.
It's a lot better than this year's team. Of course,
last year you had Soto. Last year you had a fuller,
healthier season of Stanton, last year you had Garrett Cole.
There's last year. You didn't necessarily have the up and
down bullpen that we've seen out of the Yankees at

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different times this season. So there's some worries there for
the Yankees, no doubt. But but this is a team
that I believe has the capability to make a big
time trade, and now it's gonna require a little bit
of I don't know if ruthless is the right word,
but they're gonna have to be quite unsympathetic the way

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that the teams have put together because there's a lot
of really popular players, some of them are homegrown, but
it's not been good enough. They still have the best
player in the world though, and Aaron Judge the best
hitter at least, and now they need to find a way,
I think, to make a couple more moves to accentuate
the group. I think Cash we'll do it, but there's
no doubt now the task lies ahead for him.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
About the San Diego Padres, amazingly, they're out of the
wild card picture at the moment. If the season ended tonight,
the Padres would not make the playoffs. It astounds me.
And they're scoreless bottom of the seventh right now against Arizona.
It astounds me that they're not better because they're a
little top heavy in the lineup. If someone like Jake
Cronin were with just better with the bat, I think

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it would change the whole bottom of the lineup. Instead,
they get in these lulls and low scoring games and
really have to rely on the pitching and the great
bullpen they do have. With a couple of All stars
at the back end, they can get better, and don't
They need to get better trade deadline.

Speaker 8 (50:18):
This month, offense has to be the thing, and for them, Steve,
it was a very welcome return for you, Darvish to
come back, that was great. I agree with you. And
groner Worth is someone who I still believe there's some
upside with him, but there just hasn't been enough production
consistently to return to that star all star level that

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we saw him have earlier on in his career. I agree.
I think he's probably the X factor for them going forward,
and they can't rely always on Tatis and Machado to
carry the way because there are other lineups in this
National League right now. The Dodgers, the Cubs come to mind,
the Mets, the Phillies, and even with all the Meths injuries.

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I still think they have a bit of a deeper
lineup right now than the Podreys do, so I'm with you.
I think they have to make a potentially a very
difficult decision, which could be would you move a Dylan
Cease for a bat? So basically, would you give up
Cease let's say the Chicago Cubs and bring back either

(51:27):
a young Owen Casey or one of their major league
outfitterers to make it all work out. That's the kind
of a trade that I'm sure Aj Preller, who is
one of the more imaginative executives in the game, will
give a lot of thought to potentially executing here in
the next several weeks.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
All right, Lastly, John Paul, the Dodgers lose again. Clayton
Kershaw pitch as well. They follow the Brewers three to one.
This is five losses in a row. Is this one
of those? Hey, every team has one of these in
them over the course of the season.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
War Is there something the Dodgers need to worry about?

Speaker 8 (51:59):
I would say this, they are a great but flawed team.
They we have to remember how last year's playoffs went.
They're one loss away from from getting bounced in the
first round, and who knows at that point what happens
to the roster, to the coaching staff if that had
been the result. So they are beatable. They they have

(52:22):
looked very beatable in recent days. I'm gonna say this,
I am still confident that they have the best chance
of anybody to win the National League. And part of
the reason is I think Mookie Bets is gonna have
a better second half. He We've got to remember how
his season started. I feel like with with the with

(52:43):
the illness and just being behind. I think he needs
the All Star break in a in a very serious way,
just from a standpoint of his swing and getting everything
locked back into place. We're gonna see a better Mookie
Bets in the second half. And they also believe they're
gonna get their their pitching back healthier. That they've got
Glass now coming back tomorrow. So I'm I am. I'm

(53:04):
actually still pretty bullish on the Dodgers long term, but
by that I mean being able to make it to
the World Series again this season. But there are some
questions that we have to see answered by their guys
who are coming back, and that starts tomorrow night with
Tyler glassnow, who's honestly, guys, going to struggle to be

(53:24):
as effective as Ryan Pepio has been for the race.
Pepio started the game that I was at tonight. He
was outstanding and and I think it's going to be
a very challenging thing for Glass now to be able
to equal the production of the man that was traded
for Glassdow to become a Los Angeles Dodger.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
He's on Twitter at John Morosi, that is at John
Morosi next time seeing with his family in a Tigers game.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
Say hey, tell Stirsy.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
I said, Hi, Hey, I know I know you from
the Jasons Smith Show featuring Steve de Sager.

Speaker 8 (53:59):
I know you. I heard your voice. And there may
in fact be people driving home from the ballpark and
Detroit listening to this conversation right now. That is the
beauty of radio.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
And I wouldn't be doing my job, I find and
tell you next time you talk to Sternsy that Alonso contract,
John Paul, it's just getting more and more expensive every time.

Speaker 8 (54:19):
Now, David, sign it.

Speaker 3 (54:22):
Now, take it easybody, have fun. We'll talk to you
next week.

Speaker 8 (54:25):
You guys, thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (54:27):
There goes John Paul. Morosi,