Best of the Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon

Jason Smith and Monse Bolanos ( In for Mike Harmon) are talking about all the BIG NBA signings of the day. Did the NFLPA/NFL conceal collusion findings?? The Brewers sweep the Dodgers. And NFL Insider Jason Cole joins the show to talk about NFL/NFLPA collusion! 

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Speaker 1 (00:32):
Hello, Welcome inside the Jason Smith Show with Monsey Belano's
in from Mike Harmon tonight, I'm your Poppy Chulo.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Noo.

Speaker 4 (00:40):
That was quick. That was quick.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
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could have hit you with the final call of the
Dodger game, considering now you know, six in a row
and the sky is falling for the Dodgers.

Speaker 4 (01:04):
It is a little bit, ain't it ain't? And thank
you for bringing that up.

Speaker 5 (01:06):
I forgot about it for a second, for a hot second,
I forgot that happened.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
You're doing updates, You're talking about it all day long.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Oh I know.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
I stopped talking about it. Uh you know, I'm just not.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Giving the score in the Updates' not giving the scoring, okay.

Speaker 4 (01:18):
Yeah, or playing the walk off. I did play it
earlier for the first I'm a team player.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
And Dodgers played in Milwaukee today and uh, Sal's wound
up shutting out the Giants fourteen to nothing and just
blow right.

Speaker 5 (01:29):
Past it, right past it. That was the positive. Giants
sucked at home. Okay, all right, you know we still
have a nice lead.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
The Giants missed an.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Opportunity there that would have been a great and the
Dodgers played the saftoon in Milwaukee. That was tight game,
and the Giants suck and the Giants suck. Now back
to you, Jason, Okay, that works. That's a different that's
a very different ways to what's trending.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
That covers the story of what happened today.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
It covers the story. It's like when I watch It's
like when I watched The Bear and I just say, hey,
I didn't watch this week at the Bear. I could
sum up what happened in less than five five seconds.
That's how boring the show is. Now, I could tell
you what happened everything in that for in less than
five seconds.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
I have not gone on that show. Are you telling
me it sucks?

Speaker 6 (02:08):
Now?

Speaker 1 (02:09):
And then watch the first two seasons? Okay, and then
just stop and then just stop?

Speaker 4 (02:13):
Yeah okay, kind of like Dexter after four seasons.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
Sure why you made it four seasons through Dexter four?

Speaker 4 (02:17):
Season was isn't that where Rita passed away? The scene
in the bathtub wasn't that season four?

Speaker 5 (02:23):
There were lots of scenes because that's that's where it
lost me once Rita okay pasted.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
Okay, all right, you know what I mean. But that's
still pretty good for that for that show and make
it through four seasons.

Speaker 4 (02:32):
It's good.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Yeah, no, it's all. But I'm telling you first two scenes, Bear,
it's it's phenomenal. And then it's like it's you know
when you watch a soap opera and you feel like, boy,
if I miss a month, you don't really miss you
caught up in like a day. Yeah right. Because my
wife and I are huge Guiding Light fans, and I
was like, wow, we went on vacation for we haven't
missed anything like the same thing. Josh and Reva are
still fighting. Okay, she goes, yes, this is how it goes. Okay, great,

(02:53):
that's kind of like the bear. You can it doesn't matter.
You don't need to see it. I could just tell
you in five seconds. R Will Poulter came back to
work and a dish. Yeah, and since that had a
heart attack, what else. That's it. That's it. But that's all,
that's all. That's forty five minutes, because twenty five minutes
of it is them chopping onions and making a dessert
and im going wild chef, wild chef, wold chef.

Speaker 4 (03:12):
Oh, you're really selling it, that's what it is. You're
really selling it.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
Okay, seasons's two seasons. Amazing, amazing, amazing. Ke wait, but
not the first not the first show where the first
couple of seasons are great, and then after it's like, hey,
we're kind of out of ideas. All right, let's just uh,
let's just put a lot of music montages in. Let's
just run it out and just extend it as far
as we can. Let's just keep going.

Speaker 4 (03:32):
Don't hate the player, hate the game.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
Speaking of extensions, big news today. If I said to you. Hey,
guess who's going to be the highest paid player in
the history of the game per year by the end
of the day today.

Speaker 7 (03:42):
I'm so excited it.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
Maybe you would have gotten to this person. Maybe not. However,
uh Shamsterrania just putting this out about a half hour ago.
Devin Booker has agreed to a two year, one hundred
and forty five million dollars maximum extension with the Suns
through the twenty twenty nine twenty thirty season. Now, this
money that he is getting puts him just above Shake

(04:05):
Gildess Alexander for the richest contract ever Shake Gildess Alexander
seventy one point two five million dollars a year. And
now you have Devin Booker who is getting two more
years because Phoenix is desperate to keep their stars. He's
now getting the most money per year in the history
of the NBA, history of the league.

Speaker 5 (04:24):
I mean, it sounds crazy, but I think Devin Booker
realizes the situation and he's like, all right, we don't
control our draft picks for the next seven years. We're
kind of screwed, but I can make money hang out
here in Phoenix whatever. Clearly he doesn't care about winning.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
He's it's not like the sun Set. You know, he
made the Sun's game. You walk in with a bunch
of guys and saying, Hey, you're gonna pay me now
or I'm gonna wreck this place. This is such a
crack my knuckles. Why did you hear me crack my
knuckles doing that's tough? Yeah, I've been watching watching too
many movies like that. Yeah, you come in here, you too,
You're gonna give me seventy two million dollars a year,

(05:03):
then you're gonna see what happens. He should be all right,
let's go.

Speaker 4 (05:05):
No, you're right.

Speaker 5 (05:06):
He was not this New York gangster mob Mooster that
came in and took this money. It's the situation that
he is in, and I want to blame him. But
at the same time, I'm like, what else is suppused?

Speaker 1 (05:18):
You wouldn't say no.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
I would. I wouldn't say no.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
The Fox Sports radio say hey, Monci, here's two years,
one hundred and forty five million dollars.

Speaker 4 (05:24):
I would say, I'll take one forty four. Give one
million to Jason Smith.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Oh okay, so that's cool, thank you all I got you.
I only get a million, and I want to get
it just a million.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
You're the only one that's getting anything.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
Oh, okay, you're getting the rest of it.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
Exactly, that's fine, exactly. I know, I hear what you're saying.

Speaker 5 (05:40):
Says. I'm not blaming him because in other situations we
would be like, oh, you should probably take a pay
cut to make your team better, Lebron James, you know
you should probably take a pay cut. But for him,
I don't think there's another scenario for him, Like he
doesn't want to leave.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
They don't want him to leave. The Sons have no
other option.

Speaker 5 (05:56):
Like you said, we got to keep someone here because
we don't know the future. The few sure looks real
dark for the Suns with this Western Conference. They know
they don't need one move, they need twenty seven moves
to all of a sudden be competitive.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
So I think they're just like, all right, we're screwed.

Speaker 5 (06:12):
We'll keep our star. People will keep coming to see
Devin Booker. Devin Booker's like, all.

Speaker 4 (06:16):
Right, I don't have to go anywhere that's cold. I'll
hang out here, make a lot of money, and see
you guys in two years see where we're at.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
This sounds like okay, I'd love for us to get divorced,
but we can't. Yes, you're the only one working right now.
I'm you know, I'm not worried. We have our you know,
our son. We got it. We got one kid getting
ready to go to college. Our daughter's going to be
going in three years. We can't sell the house because
we're underwater on it. So okay, we're just gonna have
to be together for the next couple of years because

(06:45):
leaving doesn't help either of us.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
Yeah, but that's perfect.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
That would be exactly what it is. That's exactly what
it is. That's you hit it right on the money.

Speaker 4 (06:53):
The house is Bradley Bial right now.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
The house we can't house.

Speaker 4 (06:57):
Let's Bradley Beial.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
We have a bad real tor. He can't sell this
out now. But look, there's there's no it's the Suns
and they have tried a lot of different things. There's
worse things than building around Devin Booker. Right, he's one
of one of only two. He and Giannis are the
only guys in the last seven years to average over
twenty five a game every year. So there's worse than
building around him. Obviously, you give him a lot of
money it's less to get other players, but hey, you

(07:19):
just got to find the right formula. But you know,
so here's the money for Devin Booker. Now you want
to get bigger than this for Devin Booker. Right, And this,
this is going to wind up being my greatest bull
prediction that I've ever made, because two years ago when
when Jokic signed his extension a couple of years ago,
and the last year he was making sixty two million
a year. Right now, this this extension that he no

(07:41):
longer wants, that he wants a new one next year
so he can make in the eighty like eighty one
million a year at the end, right by twenty thirty, okay,
by the year twenty third, we're twenty twenty five. Right now,
in the summer twenty twenty five, there will be an
NBA player making one hundred million dollars a year. Someone's
going to sign a contract that's going to be four
one hundred million dollars a year. And again, we talked

(08:02):
about this last night because Yo Kicic was, hey, he
wants to opt out so we can sign a bigger
deal next year, and he would be in the eighties
for his final he would be in like eighty four
million a year for the last year or two whatever
it could wind up being for him. So now you're
talking about a year from now, Jokis jumps from seventy
two to eighty four. So I got four years. I
bet it happened before that. Devin Booker got seventy two. Man,
how many guys in the league on a I need more

(08:23):
money than that. It'll probably be Wemby. It'll probably be
win because you're talking about in five years, there's gonna
be somebody who's twenty four twenty five gonna get that
kind of money. But someone one hundred million dollars a year.
I thought it could happen in the NFL too, But
you know, now we see that salaries are being controlled
a little bit morech we'll get to in a few minutes.
So I thought maybe a quarterback would get there, but
probably not. By then. They're growing a little bit more incrementally.

(08:45):
But by twenty thirty, if Devin Booker is getting seventy
two million dollars a year now for the last couple
of years of his contract extension, someone's gonna sign by
twenty thirty for one hundred million dollars a year. Oh
yehe hundred million.

Speaker 5 (08:57):
Anyway, I don't even know how to process that right now,
because I think you're on I think you're on it.
I don't.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
I don't think this is that crazy of a take.
It really isn't.

Speaker 5 (09:04):
And that's the crazy side of it, that.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
This seems like right on par with what we're gonna see.

Speaker 5 (09:10):
I was gonna say, maybe even Luka Doncic could get
up there if he continues to could get closer.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
He keep in shape, another couple of good years and maybe.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
Sure, Wamma's a great one. That is ridiculous to think about.

Speaker 5 (09:24):
So when you put it that way, do you think
the Phoenix Suns were smart in doing this?

Speaker 1 (09:28):
Now? Well, I always think anybody who wants to see
somebody you sign a guy early because the contract's just
gonna get more money. Anybody that doesn't do stuff like this,
you could tell they're scared. So at least Phoenix has
been aggressive. You could talk about managed piece, a guy
he guys, opens up his computer every day and see
somebody says, oh, I didn't know this, Let's go get
this guy, Let's go spend this money. Right, there's worse
owners to have the ones that gets scared of stuff

(09:49):
and say, ooh, I don't know, it's a lot of money,
and maybe we can get him on the cheap. If
he has kind of a down year, it's like, Okay,
that's just not gonna work. So yeah, locking him in now,
by the time would come up to he's thirty two
years old, coming up for the next deal, it would
be more money. It would be a longer time for
more money. So yeah, locking him in for the next
four years of his prime, which are gonna take him
into thirty two. You're thirty two to thirty three. Okay, Now,

(10:12):
you just got to get it right. Right, you said
you have to get it right. Building around him, they
were aggressive. They thought KD was coming. Obviously, Kevin Durant
hasn't led anybody to anything in six years. I could
have told you that, but hey, you know, Matt just
Bea didn't call me. Bradley Beal's gonna come. Now you're stuck. Okay,
Now he's got the no trou Okay, that's great. But
at least they're being aggressive. So I enjoy the aggressiveness
of it because I'm never gonna fault someone for that.

(10:33):
It's just okay, you want to be able to make
the right decisions, keep flexibility, But I mean, who else
are you gonna give that money to? Right? Devin Booker
one of the best pure scorers in the game. Clearly.
I feel like he's kind of on the Damian Lillard
path where we're gonna be talking about him and he's
gonna keep scoring twenty five a game and the Sons
are gonna keep losing and by the time he gets
at thirty two to thirty three, we're gonna say the
same thing with Lillard. Boy, I wish he would get

(10:54):
to another team, right, just like because that was the
way with Damian Liard, Like like like a few nights
NBA Nights year he would go for like forty five
and on the show, we'd go, man, nobody else care.
No one's gonna be talking about this tomorrow because it's
late at night. It's the Blazers and the Kings or
the Blazers, and no one's gonna do. Would love Lillard
to get to another team. That's gonna be the same
thing for Devin Booker, boy, he's a biggs. Would love

(11:15):
to see him get to another team at some point.
That's what we're saying for him.

Speaker 5 (11:18):
I totally hear the comparison, although it was I feel
like it was a little different because right now, the
Suns like, you're I don't expect you to do any
damage in the Western Conference.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
In the next two years. If I'm being completely honest,
you've got to make sense.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Don't sell them short. Two years, maybe maybe ten, maybe
twelve fifteen, still sell them short.

Speaker 5 (11:36):
I feel like with Portland there was a bit of hope,
like they were putting pieces around Damian Lillard and it's again,
it did not go the way that they thought, but.

Speaker 4 (11:45):
I feel like there was hope. There's no hope with
the Sons right now.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
Right now, what happens next the Sons get a first
round pick or the Mets get done paying Bobby Benia. Okay,
because that's twenty thirty five. Okay, that's twenty thirty five.

Speaker 4 (11:58):
It's gonna be.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
It's close.

Speaker 4 (11:59):
It's real close.

Speaker 5 (12:00):
It's close because they don't have control over their picks
for seven years, so it's like it's not it's not
looking good for them. So it's a little bit different
with the Portland and the Blazer situation with with Lillard,
but it does seem like it's going in that direction
where it's like he's gonna keep having a great career,
but that's as far as it's gonna go.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
Yeah, I mean, it seems success is not looking good
for him.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
No, it's it's it's always hard, and it's kind of
the philosophy of you want to build a team when
your quarterback is on a rookie contract, So that's when
you have the money to be able to pay other players,
and you know your quarterbacks still making money in theory,
but hey, while Jalen Hurts is on his rookie deal
or someone else is on their rookie deal, hey we
can win now. And that's great. If you don't, okay,
it gets a little bit tougher because you're paying your

(12:41):
quarterback now, so it's harder to go out and get
other players. So yeah, it's a lot tougher in the NBA,
but you have to keep your big players. You can't.
You can't win in the NBA without stars, you don't.
You No one wins a championship without at least two superstars. Yeah,
it doesn't happen anymore that way. That that's kind of
how it goes. And so you saw Hey, you know
homegrin today with the with the rookie Max that he

(13:01):
got with the Thunders, and now you're talking about Shay Gilders,
Alexander and chet Holmgren and Williams and you need great players.
So it's it's a catch twenty two. But you gotta spend, man,
you got you got. If you don't spend, you're gonna
sit there and say, Okay, Greg, you gontary to be
the little engine that could. Little engines don't do it
in the NBA.

Speaker 5 (13:15):
Yeah you know, okayse he is spending money because they
have to for one reason. Sons are spending money because
they have to for another completely different reason. Yeah you know,
but yeah, at least at least you're being aggressive.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
Hey, that's all. It's all good. Yeah, it's all good.

Speaker 4 (13:29):
It's better than the alternative.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Yeah, no, this is true. This is true. You wait,
you wait. By twenty third, you gonna remember this conver.
You can say, I was doing a show with Jason
Skin you know, the guy that was on The Golden
Bachelor in one Yeah, remember that guy?

Speaker 3 (13:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (13:40):
Remember he was here Fox Sports Radio. Yeah yeah yeah.
And then and he said, by twenty thirty someone's gonna
be making And look at that. Wenby signs that extension
hard because it's I got five years to make five
years it's gonna happen.

Speaker 4 (13:54):
And the way it's looking like this, like you said,
I might even have them before.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
That, Well that's the big thing is Yoki is gonna
do it next year. But that big jump he's gonna make. Okay, Well,
you guys gonna be up in the eighties, all right?
Then did need somebody else to make a big jump?
And then somebody else make and then Wenby's the guy.
And maybe's that Wenby, it's s Cooper Flag. But somebody's
got one hundred million dollars a year. It's never gonna
go back. So you should have been a basketball player.

Speaker 4 (14:15):
I should have been a basketball there at five feet, Yes.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
You could have. You know, if you could have made
money in like a six foot under league or something
like that, and one of those leagues. Yes, there is
fifty and over softball league. Is there like a height
league for for uh?

Speaker 4 (14:29):
I don't think so. I mean, I'm sure, I'm sure
there is actually, but one that.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
Pays The rims are like it's seven and a half.

Speaker 4 (14:35):
I don't want you to move the rim. I'm not
I can't. I would be able to make a basket
like that. I'm so used to the basket being where
it is. I don't want you to move it. I
don't want you to also to give me a lighter ball,
all right, played with the lighter ball.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
Okay, all right, all right, very just see if there
was a six the money was there. Hey, if big
three can make money and then the rival can make
money money, Yeah, well it's still around. So I think
money exit out about a Frescott Monciet Moll Jason Smith,
Monsey and from Mike Harmon. Tonight we have another we
have a double shot in money conversation coming your way. Next,

(15:07):
a big headline out of the NFL today that I'll
tell you exactly why no fans care about it. That's next,
right here, Jason Monsei, this is Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2 (15:25):
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like a big money hour here we have. It's a
big lots of money left money, money, money, money, money, money.

Speaker 4 (16:47):
I wish money was coming at us.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
I wish you well I'll give Kaishirt a bunch of
ones and he can just make it main in the studio.

Speaker 4 (16:54):
Yeah, gosh, how exciting would that be?

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Tysan? How long would take you to make it rain
with like ten ones? Oh? Points seconds? Okay? Very good?
All just are you are you preparing like Monty? You
do it? That's you're the one raining in no no,
so I dancing? Yes? Oh wow?

Speaker 4 (17:08):
I just yeah, you've got a plan here, talk.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
Less smile more so, like like how many ones would
you need to do an effective make it rain like
legit in a row? Yeah? Forty probably forty? Ye? All right, okay,
al right. It looked good and they got to be
really crisp.

Speaker 4 (17:24):
Yeah, but not because they get stuck together. Separate them first,
you know.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
Wow, He says, seem like you have some experience.

Speaker 4 (17:33):
I may have, you know, thrown ones.

Speaker 5 (17:36):
At people the time or two okay, making it rain
and throwing ones at people, you know, sometimes it's throwing,
sometimes it's making a rain.

Speaker 4 (17:45):
Okay, the same things.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
All right, all right, slighting in mony after dark here
on Fox Radio. So we had the Dead Books money
conversation a few minutes ago. Now, how about this as
far as money goes from the NFL A big story today.
It's weird. We're gonna do a big story. I'm gonna
tell you why fans don't care. Is this Kirk Cousins.

(18:08):
It's not. No, we'll get I know, I I know,
we talked before the show. We'll get to your discovery
that Kirk Cousins is overpaid later on. No, we'll get
to that. It'n't get me start on Matt Ryanry. Apparently
Pablo Torri, who was you know, seen on ESPN for
the last few years, Suddenly he's now turning into the

(18:29):
new mark for ne Ruwata investigative reporter.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
That is going to blow the lid off the stories,
whether we want them or not. Because you know, we
had the whole thing about Bill Belichick and Jordan Hudson
a few weeks ago, and I remember hearing that going,
I don't get why why is he looking into this?
This is just weird. There's no crime, there's no anything.
It's just weird. Why is this taking up all this time?
But there is something else taking up this time, obviously

(18:55):
on the Pablo Tory Finds Out podcast, in which there
is evidence now well that the NFL and senior leaders
of the NFL Player Association committed collusion together. There was
an agreement between the NFL and the NFLPA to limit
the restricted guaranteed money in player contracts. So basically what

(19:15):
happened was everybody got mad when Jimmy Hasselm decided, oh
we need a quarterback. Hey, to Sean Watson, you don't
want to be here at all? Do you know? But
what if we guaranteed every penny of your contract? Well
then I want to go. Okay, great, So all of
that money guaranteed to a guy coming off an awful
story and an awful headline, and I don't even know
what to say at that point where how you can

(19:36):
redeem anything? Where yeah, you went through all of this,
but here's two hundred and fifty million dollars guaranteed. So
a lot of people were upset about this, right and
now apparently there's evidence that both the NFL and the
Player Association colluded to keep the guaranteed money from skyrocketing.
So ensuing years, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen Mahomes, all these
guys got new contracts, and so now they can suddenly say,

(19:58):
wait a minute, we could sue the league, we can
declare free agent, we can do maybe, we can do
a lot of things, because now there's evidence that both
sides colluded to keep that going. Now, there's two takeaways
from this right before one takeawy, before you get to
why why fans don't care? Number one is that, man,
if I'm a player and I go, wait a minute,
I understand the NFL colluding with the owners saying we

(20:21):
don't want to keep that, we don't want to keep
this money. How do you keep that from the players. Hey,
we're gonna make we're gonna take care of you. I
get that you have to work together, there's symbiosis there,
but you work for the players and you keep this
and you keep this quiet Like this is where you
have to just clear out everybody leading the NFLPA and
find new leadership because they're supposed to be working for
the players and instead, Yeah, we kind of had this

(20:44):
agreement that we're gonna limit the guaranteed money and salaries. Wow,
I can't believe NFL players are They haven't all just
storm three four five Park Avenue and said, Okay, something's
got to happen, right like Frankenstein. They're all with torches
at the end, going throw them down, throw them down
at I can't believe that hasn't happened yet.

Speaker 4 (21:01):
You are not wrong.

Speaker 5 (21:02):
When I read the story, that's all I cared about,
because you're right, what don't.

Speaker 4 (21:05):
Fans care about? I don't care or am I.

Speaker 5 (21:07):
Surprised that the owners want this and wanted to control
right guaranteed money. But the NFLPA, huh huh? What else
are you colluding? What else are you hiding?

Speaker 4 (21:21):
What else have you withheld details to the players about?

Speaker 3 (21:26):
You know?

Speaker 5 (21:27):
That's what The next question is, what else have you
kept from us? What else have you not done in
our favor when you were supposed to be fighting for us?
Because if not, then what's the point here? Very it's
very disappointing, I'm sure as a player to read that,
but as the owners, It's like, I'm not surprised about that.
I'm not surprised that the owners are doing this.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
All the owners are. I'm sure the owners are mad.
They got found out, absolutely mad they found out.

Speaker 4 (21:52):
That you found out that they were in on it.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
Yeah now, yeah now everybody, but all the anger is
really going to wind up going to the NFLPA because
I think people are got well. Of course NFL wants
to keep salaries down. I'm sure they all taught. Hey,
there's collusion for different times for keeping money down, whether
it keeping Colin Kaepernick out of the league, wherever you want, wherever,
whatever side you come down on that. But to hear
that though the players Association is doing this is this

(22:14):
is where like this is like if if you were
being defended for a crime and at the end the
lawyer says, hey, I uh, you know, you gotta take this.
You gotta take a deal. I'm not I can't get
you off. You gotta take a deal. Okay, what is it.
So you gotta do five years? Oh okay, great, and
then five years go by and you find out oh yeah, yeah,
maybe they're the prosecutor. We just didn't want to try

(22:34):
the case. We were tired of going on vacation, so
we just struck a deal with each other that yeah,
you were gonna get five years, and that was it,
and I wasn't gonna try. I had a lot of
evidence I could have got I could have got you off. Yeah,
I got DNA, I had everything. Man, you didn't do this.
I know you didn't do it, but boy, it would
have been a lot of money and waiting for the
lab to come in and you know, we had this
vacation book to Egypt with Aaron Rodgers and it was

(22:55):
such a bit there. We really didn't do it. That's
that's finding this out. Now, you're supposed to be for me,
you're supposed to be well, nope, but they're not.

Speaker 5 (23:02):
No, they're not and probably making money themselves out of
this deal. That's the other side of it. It's like,
you agreed to this for what perk? What did you
get out of this? Because this is a big deal.

Speaker 4 (23:13):
The minute it came out, you knew this was gonna
hit the fan.

Speaker 5 (23:16):
For you, not the owners, because again we expect this
from the owners. In a sport where injury can be
so high, it's very different than in other sports. Kind
of like you said in the last hour that you
thought maybe in the NFL one hundred million dollar contract
annually could be a thing, but because of injuries and
the demanding physical toll that this sport takes, it's very
different from the NBA. But none of this is surprising

(23:38):
from the owners. Nobody is now looking at their owners differently.
Now they're just looking at the people they trusted them
most differently. And that's like worst case scenario out of
this story.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
Can't trust anybody, can't trust anybody.

Speaker 4 (23:50):
And it's like, what did you get out of this?

Speaker 5 (23:52):
You didn't just agree to this without getting anything out
of it? So you got the money that was guaranteed
for me?

Speaker 1 (23:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (23:58):
Instead?

Speaker 1 (23:58):
Yeah, or I'm not. The thing is that we're right.
What does this open the flag door?

Speaker 4 (24:04):
Yes, because it's not just one.

Speaker 5 (24:06):
When there's one ant, you know, there's not one ant,
there's hundreds of ants.

Speaker 4 (24:09):
That's always what I've been told my mom. But there's one,
you know, there's a lot, so handle it. So there's
one here, there's a lot more.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
But I don't want to keep looking.

Speaker 4 (24:19):
And that's the thing. I don't want to look. No,
keep looking.

Speaker 5 (24:23):
She get that spray out, that raid spray out and
handle your business.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
Yeah, but but they're the red ants. They bite you.
I'm sorry, you have to. You got to get out there.
I'm sorry, pants on, No, that's red.

Speaker 4 (24:35):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
You get out there and you kill every ant until
but I don't want to do it, But you do it,
or you're not eating tonight. All right, Fine, going out
to kill the ads.

Speaker 4 (24:45):
I got them all, mom.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
So now the other part of it is, this is
one of the biggest reactions I would say of this
is boy, I can't believe it's not a bigger story, right,
I said, like, I can't. How is this not a
bigger story? Like that was a big thing that I
most of the day on social media? How is this?
How is this not a big deal? How more people
not care about this? And like, you know what, it's

(25:08):
a very inside baseball thing where okay, we're keeping salaries
down and people understand. I'm not saying people don't understand
it because certain things, okay, a little too much where
you know, I only have so much ram in my
head for stories and stuff and what I care about
what I don't. Okay, But this is a case where
if you ask the average fan, hey, are you outraged
over this? The average fan is gonna say players get
paid too much? Anyway? What do I care? I mean, really,

(25:31):
I'm supposed to be upset that Joe Burrow couldn't get
three hundred and ten million and had to settle for
two hundred and seventy five million, right or wrong? People
don't care. People don't care about that they've done. Players
have been overpaid since we since we knew what salaries
players were making. I'm sure in the forties and the fifties,
if there was sports talk radio and you found out
that players, you know, hey, so and so signed such

(25:53):
a big contract in baseball, he doesn't have to take
a second job in the offseason selling shoes, which is
what a lot of players today was like, Oh, he's
overpaid if he has need to work in the off season.
I know guys, they are shoe salesmen, they were construction
they do this, they work in the tax office. I'm
sure you would have found fans back then, all this
guy's way overpaid. He's getting five hundred dollars a year.
That's way too much money. I mean, fans generally think

(26:15):
athletes are over as much as they love sports, much
as we love sports. Mostly we care about the money,
and fans care about the money when it comes to
being able to sign other players, right, I don't care
what it costs. I want to be able to bring
in player X, or I want to be able to
have enough money in the salary cap to bring in
an edge rusher, you know, a box safety, a running back, whatever,

(26:38):
that's where we care about money for But this money, Oh,
so players couldn't get paid money. You're talking about the
upper one tenth of one percent of players in the
NFL that have kept salaries down. Because are they really
talking about keeping salaries down for a guy who's gonna
sign for two years and four million. No, But it's
the big top end guys, the big quarterbacks that are
out there that we're going to reset the market. And

(26:58):
I'm sure the owners saw that. Okay, here comes Lamar
and Burrow and Mahomes and all, Okay, let's make sure
we take care of this. But generally, yeah, this is
not gonna be something that you're gonna whip fans up
in a frenzy because that's ninety percent of the fans
are gonna say, hey, I don't care. I don't care.
And if we were doing the show for the players,
it'd be different. We do four hours as if it's

(27:18):
just players listening. But fans, Yeah, I get it. I
get that fans because honestly, I have to think about
how much do I care about this? Right? I care
more about it from the perspective of the people supposed
to be working for the players. The players associations that, Yeah,
we had this agreement that with screwing you, so sorry
about that. That's the part I care about more. But
the money thing, it's gonna be really hard to make this.
To sell this is Oh, look at this story and

(27:40):
all of a sudden there's got to be investigations in
the NFL and people have to lose jobs. That's not
gonna go that way.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (27:45):
No, it's hard to have sympathy for rich people just
wanting to make more money. Right, It's like problems we
don't understand. So it's the rich getting richer, but we
don't have sympathy because, like you said, it's not the
guy coming in that's making a couple of million, it's
the guys that are already making millions.

Speaker 4 (28:02):
And you you think.

Speaker 5 (28:03):
There's no more collusion here as to why the story
isn't pushed. You think it's fans not being interested, and
I agree to that, but I also feel like there's
probably people sending messages to those who control the stories saying, hey,
you know, don't write about this, don't retweet this.

Speaker 4 (28:20):
You know that's going on as well.

Speaker 5 (28:21):
Oh yes, it's being controlled on the media level of
those people who would be tweeting this information out. Pablo
tweets about things that people aren't talking about, just like
you mentioned the whole thing with Jordan Hudson and Bill Belichick,
Like nobody cared about that.

Speaker 4 (28:35):
He chose to dive into that, and.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
So like, what is he gonna if he's gonna uncover
something illegal or somebody?

Speaker 3 (28:41):
What?

Speaker 1 (28:42):
What? What do you? What do you? What are you uncovering?

Speaker 5 (28:44):
Maybe he was there trying to find something newly, you know,
spygate point point two.

Speaker 4 (28:48):
Oh, I don't know, But here I feel like there is.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
You knew ahead of time that Jordan Hudson would say yes,
exactly ahead of time. That's what it is. Ahead. Yeah,
I have the signals down. They had a guy filming
if he hey, okay, I see this. Okay, so she'll
say yes if you ask he around, So we know
ahead of time.

Speaker 5 (29:03):
So it doesn't exactly exactly, But here I do feel
like maybe there's just a bit of a couple of
people saying, hey, don't.

Speaker 4 (29:10):
Wrung with the story.

Speaker 5 (29:11):
Let's just let it die down, let the players handle
it themselves, don't let the public get involved.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Yeah, and I'm sure it was this works best for
both of our sides. If you do this for us,
the owners say, we'll do something for you. We'll make
sure this is the case. I mean, I understand it
in theory. I understand it in theory, but in the end,
what you got to say, Okay, if it gets out,
and look, the NFL has done a pretty good job
of keeping things secret that they don't want out. But yes,

(29:38):
if this gets out, if the shield is not protected
and this gets out, because it always that happens once
in a while in every zombie movie. You think you
have a great, great defense, but all you need is
one crazy ass zombie to make it through a one
guy to fall asleep or one guy to leave and
go to the bathroom, and one zombie gets through when suddenly, awe,
now we got a problem, right like episode two of
the Last of Us. Right now we got problems. Now

(30:00):
we got all kinds of problems because the zombies broke through.
Sorry spoiler, So now you got problems. And now Joel's
going to pay the ultimate price. So there's so there's that. Yeah,
but it's a while people know that by now.

Speaker 4 (30:09):
Also spoiler it's not good here.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
Yeah, So I mean, like, if that gets you understand
that you could ruin so many things, like the is
the risk versus the reward here of now the players
are going to say, we need all new elected officials.
We need to rip up this collective bargaining agreement and
get a new one. That's the first thing I would
do if I was one of the players in charge,
I would say, we got to rip up this CBA

(30:31):
and sign a new one because we don't know what
else is going on. We need a new CBA ratified
right now. Like that's what I think is going to
wind up being the Hey, now, then you suddenly get
to a oh boy, now you've done it, so I
understand it was it worth it to keep salaries down
for like three or four quarterbacks when when this is
going to be the result.

Speaker 5 (30:48):
Well, they didn't know it was going to come out, right,
And that's what this shield, that's the shield is probably
doing just that, trying to control this, keeping it down,
keeping it low so it doesn't more details don't get
out to the public because you know there's more to it.

Speaker 4 (31:01):
This is not it.

Speaker 5 (31:02):
There's more to the story, more intricate details that we're
probably not gonna know.

Speaker 4 (31:07):
But the shield wants to protect it the Shield.

Speaker 5 (31:09):
If there is a problem now with the NFLPA and
the players, the Shield does not want the public to
know that that is information that we may not hear
unless Pablo decides to dive into it and finds out
more information.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
We jumped into something else.

Speaker 5 (31:23):
But it's damage control almost right. Now, here's this point.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Here's who was dancing with Tom Brady at the Bezos wedding? No, no,
now you look as Sidney Sweeney was dancing with Brady
then photographed for the Orlando Bloom. We're gonna see where
we're at. Was she really the person everybody wanted to
talk to? Who else did Brady talk to at the wedding?
Pablo Tory finds out.

Speaker 4 (31:42):
And then that would be a great story, and that
would be great. Do you have.

Speaker 5 (31:46):
Footage of said Tom Brady with miss Sweeney?

Speaker 4 (31:50):
Because I would have loved to.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
How to throw a football so you hold it like that.

Speaker 4 (31:54):
I would have loved to have seen that. I want
to know how much game Tom Brady has.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
You want to flick your wrist like this a little
bit and then you want to just kind of flick
it like that is no game? Yeah, I feel like
he has no game. He doesn't need. He has to
walk out. Hey, that's tom Brady. Tom that's the only
game you need.

Speaker 4 (32:09):
You need against against Sweeney. You need some games.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
That's that's tom Brady. That's still the only Sweeney. He's
still the only game he needs.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
The game.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
The only game she needs is I'm Sydney Sweeney.

Speaker 4 (32:19):
That's right, right, No, she really does.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
Oh, but really, Tom Brady doesn't need anything else other
than she doesn't care about football.

Speaker 4 (32:26):
He's going to be more than that.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
If she still knows who Tom Brady is, though.

Speaker 4 (32:29):
That doesn't matter. It's about caring. I have friends who
know who Tom Brady. Don't care.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
You call Pablo Tory and you find out what he
says about this.

Speaker 4 (32:37):
Pablo, get the details of this.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
But speaking of finding stuff out right now, what's trending
in the wide world.

Speaker 5 (32:43):
Of sports, Well, a lot of baseball today, and Jason,
we got.

Speaker 4 (32:47):
Some games still going on.

Speaker 5 (32:48):
The Angels and the Rangers right now in La Angels
up four to three, top of the fourth inning, Diamondbacks
on the scoreboard.

Speaker 4 (32:54):
First against the Padres in San.

Speaker 5 (32:56):
Diego, it's two zero, top of the fifth inning, Diamondbacks.

Speaker 4 (32:59):
Do you have a man on first and second still
have two outs to go here.

Speaker 5 (33:02):
The Braves are all over the A's six to zero
top of the third inning. The Yankees defeated the Mariners
nine to six. Jazz Chisholm Junior with two homers in
that one. It was all Red Sox against the Rockies.
Ten to two was the final score. Jaron Duran with
the three run shot in the win. The Pirates did
tie the game against the Royals, but Kansas City wins
at four to three. The Nationals defeated the Cardinals eight

(33:23):
to two, and the Guardians held on to take down
the Astros four to two. And the Dodgers, well, now
they've lost six in a row. The Brewers brought out
The Brewers brought out the brooms today in Milwaukee. Three
to two was the final score in ten innings, and
the White Sox snapped the Blue Jays ten game winning streak,
coming out on top two to one, while the Phillies
crushed the Giants in San Francisco. Thirteen zero was the

(33:46):
final score. MLB also announced today that they're going to
use the automated ball Strike Challenge system during Tuesday's All
Star Game at Truest Park in Atlanta and at wimpledon
Yonick Center defeated American Ben Shelton in three sets. So
he's set it to the semi fi finals. Center, He's
gonna face no Back Djokovic. After all the seeds that
were knocked out in early Wimbledon. At least we're getting

(34:09):
Jonick Centner, n A Novak, Djokovic.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
Jimmy Connors, and Bjorn Borg. We're getting them too, sure, Yeah,
von Lendell McEnroe. Okay, Yeah, we're getting avall, all the
good ones Agacy in Sanpris. They're all coming back.

Speaker 4 (34:23):
They might as well. Might as well at this point.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
Exit up out of Fresco at Monzie Volanos, Jason Smith,
Monsei and for Harmon Tonight. Coming up next is the
best team in baseball really in trouble after another loss today?
That's stop. It's a tease. People supposed to understand. Oh
are they talking about the Dodgers? Oh wait a minute,
that's next. Fox.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
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Speaker 1 (34:58):
Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show with Monsi bolanos in
from Mike Harmon Tonight, not a hobo, not a hobe. No,
it's a non hobo week. Not it's no hobo week.
So no hobo week.

Speaker 4 (35:09):
Yes, Steve and I are not hobo, not hoboes.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
No hobo Week's what it is?

Speaker 4 (35:13):
No, no, no, asked man.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
Yes, yes, ask man, but no hobo.

Speaker 5 (35:17):
No man.

Speaker 4 (35:19):
I don't know, but I say no.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Okay, you want you to get in his car to
show up here and talk to you guys about this?

Speaker 4 (35:27):
At him, holler at him.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
Hey, just because ty Shirt asked you a question doesn't
mean you have to give him the right answer. You
could just say, yeah, I don't know. He's not he's not.
He's not looking out for you. MONSI, Okay, he's not.

Speaker 5 (35:38):
He's not.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
He's saying what can I get Monsie. I'm just gonna
ask any question I want.

Speaker 4 (35:42):
To, And he got me. I was intrigued by it.
I was intrigued.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (35:45):
You know that's a good question. I am an asked man?
Is Steve de Sager and asked man.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
Now, he's gonna play that back every single time he's on,
She's gonna be I am an ask man. No, he's
gonna play the bat that you think Steve disager always
and Steve's gonna go. Okay, I don't know where that
came from.

Speaker 5 (36:02):
To where you're like, No, I think he likes Sydney
Sweeney types.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Did you see that?

Speaker 4 (36:08):
I mean, you know, I'm just guessing here. No reason
to believe what I'm.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
Believing, No reason to not do the play of the day.
How about that?

Speaker 3 (36:15):
How we go?

Speaker 1 (36:15):
How about we don't play?

Speaker 4 (36:17):
It is?

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(36:38):
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Speaker 3 (36:50):
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Speaker 1 (36:53):
Dodgers here this afternoon in Milwaukee, it is.

Speaker 7 (36:57):
Bruise for the Brewers as they sweep the Dodgers.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
For the first time utter Piro Milwaukee.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
First sweep of the Dodgers in a series in franchise history.
They have never swept the a three game series in Milwaukee,
even when the Dodgers were terrible in some years ago,
they have never swept them until today Brewers TV on
the call for the play of the day and the
first time it's ever happened. And now the Dodgers have

(37:27):
lost six in a row. So we have to have
the conversation we had coming off the three games sweep
at the hands of the Astros. They concerned about the
Dodgers right e Look obviously between the Dodger and the Yankees,
the two big high profile teams, more concerned about the
Yankees because they're just not as good the Dodgers. This

(37:47):
is where I feel. I'm out with the Dodgers right now.
Losing six in a row. Their big thing is going
to be, oh, are they gonna wind up with the
best record of the National League right making the playoffs
and being ready to go that That's not gonna be
the question. But I gotta say I do not fear
the Dodgers like I did last year. I think the
average fan I like that Mets fan I don't fear
the Dodgers right now. We already beat them four out

(38:09):
of seven, so okay, just like that in the NLCS,
we'll have so it would be fantastic. So I no
longer I don't fear the Dodgers. Yes, they have injury issues,
and they're gonna be getting back healthy at some point.
But you know, when you're midway through the season and
you're saying, hey, we're hoping to get healthy, it's kind
of what it is, a hope because if a players
have been out for that long, who knows how they're
gonna come back. Yes, Glasdell came back today. Any pitch, well, okay, great,

(38:30):
but you're clearly not quite the same team you were
a year ago. Tani's not having quite the same year.
Mookie Betts has not been very good. Will Smith has
been great, right a catcher hitting three thirty a phenomenal year.
But I don't fear the Dodgers like I have the
last couple of years. I'm not going into a playoff
series thinking it's been a great run. Maybe if something

(38:52):
happens we get lucky. No, I'm going in thinking we
can win this. They are they are beatable. We can
beat the Dodgers in a series in the playoffs. It
doesn't mean we're going.

Speaker 5 (39:00):
Yeah yeah, Chip, Chip, cheerio over there to Johnson Cherio,
congratulations to him.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
I completely understand that was very sarcastic. I don't think
you really meant to congratulation.

Speaker 4 (39:10):
I hope you got it.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
I hope he got it.

Speaker 5 (39:13):
You are not wrong in that feeling, Jason, because right now,
a team like the Dodgers, we're on paper, no team
that has that type of roster should lose six in
a row. So right now, yeah, they look very normal,
very human, and I think last year for a second
they did it.

Speaker 4 (39:32):
There are issues.

Speaker 5 (39:33):
You're right, I'm not worried about the Dodgers making the playoffs. No,
they're gonna make the playoffs, that's not the question. But
they these issues are real. I don't know, Muki, you know,
struggling going to shortstop, Like there are plays where he
looks really good.

Speaker 4 (39:47):
And then there are plays where he doesn't look that great.

Speaker 5 (39:50):
Poor Freddy Freeman has to save a lot of the
balls thrown at his way at first base, not just
from Mookie Bets. That is something that's a real question.
They also got had no one this last year was
our star and he had a great start to the year.
He's dipped off. We want him to come back. There's
a lot of players that we're hoping to come back
to their high potential, but it's a lot. And then

(40:11):
with Shoho Tani, like now you're pitching and you're hitting,
has taken a dip, understandably so and I hate that
the All Star break is actually coming right now, specifically
for Shoheo Toni. He's trying to get in a rhythm
of pitching and hitting, and now you're about to take
a break, So that rhythm is going to take a break,
and that's not great for him.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (40:30):
Freddie Freeman right now.

Speaker 5 (40:31):
He has this whole this whole month of July has
like fifty strikeouts career, He's like a twenty percent when
it comes to strikeouts right now, fifty percent. Like they're
just swinging that stuff. So they look very normal, very human.
You should feel like they're not scary. Now, hopefully that
is all part of the plan and the.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
Low you in exactly all sense of security exactly the
trade deadline.

Speaker 4 (40:55):
Yeah, hopefully that's the thing.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
At the trade deadline, We're gonna get Max yeah, yeah,
we can do.

Speaker 4 (41:01):
All those things.

Speaker 5 (41:03):
But yeah, they definitely look real human and normal Right now,
with the sixth game losing streak, first time being swept
by the Astros since two thousand and eight at Dodger Stadium.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
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(41:46):
preset Fox Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio app. It'll always
pop up at the top of your screen. So apparently
the NFLPA is not working for the players. A big
bombshell of the story today by Pablo Torri that you
first brought this to light a couple of weeks ago.
There was collusion between the NFL and the NFL Players

(42:08):
Association to limit guaranteed money to players and contracts. Basically,
this stemmed from Deshaun Watson getting his entire contract guaranteed
and the owners didn't want that. And apparently with all
the new contracts coming up of Joe Burrow and Lamar Jackson,
the NFL and the NFLPA worked together to keep the

(42:28):
salaries down and these guys signed big contracts in the
last couple of years, and maybe they could have wound
up getting more money. I can't believe that this is
the nflpa's supposed to work for the players and this. Hey,
sorry about that, guys. Yeah, we screwed you. We screwed
you on getting some money. But yeah, we work with
the owners on this. Wait what you're supposed to represent
me against the owners? Nah?

Speaker 3 (42:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (42:49):
But ah, can you really be mad? I mean most
of the time we worked for you, I mean, MONSI
just a one time, just as one tiny time that
just one tiny time we didn't work for you.

Speaker 4 (43:01):
It's been good, since it's been good so far, that's
what you say.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
Hey, our marriage has been really good. Yeah, we had
a really bad couple of days there when when I
disappeared and showed up and there was lipstick all over
my collars of all my shirts.

Speaker 5 (43:12):
But great, yeah, overall, what what greg would you give me?

Speaker 1 (43:18):
Minus?

Speaker 4 (43:19):
I mean, that's pretty good. That's passing. You know, you
wouldn't give me an for all the work out of Dome.

Speaker 5 (43:26):
No, I was I was maybe at a at a
A minus.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
Now I'm a be minus.

Speaker 5 (43:33):
That's still above average, Still above average, That's what I
would be saying.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
Joining us now on the hotline to break it all down.
Nobody better than longtime NFL insider check them out in
the thirty third team A Hall of Fame voter. I
have to say Hall of Fame voter because it's a
very serious topic going to talk about here with the NFLPA.
It is Jason Cole. J Cole, what's happening? Man?

Speaker 3 (43:57):
Oh man? I just feel so good whenever I hear this,
realizing the Jets will never win, well.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
Oh so bad.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
Maybe maybe I want to sue the NFL. There's collusion
in keeping the Stets from winning. Maybe there's collusion.

Speaker 3 (44:12):
Take collision to keep the Jets from winning. That's not
that doesn't require effort. I mean, come on, just watching
Woody work is is magic.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
We had Rogers and Adams and Wilson last year we said,
I think there's collusion. I didn't think about that.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
Some boy moving along, moving along to more viable subject.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
To this store today. What'd you make of this today?

Speaker 3 (44:39):
Oh? I think that the NFL players doociations should clean
the house, like everybody should be fired, like just like
burn baby burns, just burn the whole building down. This
is I mean, this is a serious subject, right, That's.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
Why that's why I introduced you as a Hall of
Same voter, because it's a serious subject.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
This is a this is a very serious subject. When
you hide the kind of information that they hid from
their own players, you've done such a you've you've forgotten
the purpose of why you exist and the fact that
they hit it for six months and agreed to and

(45:23):
they're not even defending the logic that they put out
there of why they why they didn't want to put
the information out there, like they directly basically admitted you're wrong.
Because they announced today, Oh, we're filing a grievance against
we're you know, we're we're we're asking for a redo. Right,

(45:44):
they're appealing, they're appealing the decision. Well, why don't you
appeal it like the first week? Number one? Why number two?
Why did you agree to keep this secret from your
own players? Like you went out and found all this
kind of information and granted there said they didn't commit
collusion technically, but he provided so much damaging evidence. And

(46:08):
this was so much was gathered and exposed in this
that that all the agents could have lined up and said,
we're going to threaten to do things if you don't
give us what you want. They would have been the league.
We'd have been back teddling so badly from this report
becoming public that we're talking about not you know, a

(46:30):
few million dollars, you know, we're talking about hundreds of
millions of dollars just this year in lock money from
lost leverage. Because if you take the top hundred free agents,
and I think they're probably there's probably somewhere in the area,
what four hundred free agents every year, right, and some
of them, you know, get one hundred million dollar deals

(46:51):
or you know, one hundred and fifteen million dollar deals,
and some of them will get you know, three three
million dollars for one year, but almost all of them
are struggling to get some kind of guaranteed money in
those deals, and they and buy and large those deals
get less than half in guaranteed money. And I know
that most fans are listening to a strong I don't here.

(47:13):
Those guys get paid millions to play a game and
blah blah blah. Right they say that, But like guys
put their their bodies on the line in this sport,
and the biggest struggle that they have is to get
the money that they bargained for, and most of them
don't get even forty or fifty percent of the money
that they technically have wrapped up in contact and their unions,

(47:37):
the people who are supposed to fight for them, didn't
give them ammunition to get more guaranteed money. So this
to me is again clean house. Everybody in that place
should go with no exception.

Speaker 4 (47:54):
But would the Shield allow that?

Speaker 5 (47:56):
Wouldn't that bring more problems? Meeting that that went down,
you know what I mean, Like a meeting that that
went down because they fired everybody. Wouldn't the Shield want
to protect that?

Speaker 3 (48:09):
The League doesn't say over the union. The Shield can do,
it can say whatever it wants, but in this case
the Shield has to shut up because the Shield was
if the shield says anything that only adds to the coin,

(48:30):
that only adds to the damages that could be could
eventually come on to them if they try to do
anything that protects this group. I'm just saying that this
is this is so such an an impeachable offense. This
is so such malfeasance on such a mactive level. And

(48:51):
that's why again, this is normally we're talking about cowboy beings,
and I know that cowboys beats are Okay, we're talking
about Jerry Jones and the beekeeper hat, which is very important. Okay,
I know where that place is right, But at this
moment in time, when you're talking about an issue, this

(49:12):
this essential to negotiation, Like everybody has to go like
you had it, you had those guys. You have proven
that those guys were trying to keep you from making
more money. They were trying to protect their wads. And
I know that again, their fans were probably like, yeah,
those don't deserve the money, and oh they should be

(49:34):
able to do that. It's like, no, they shouldn't like that.
That's wherest train of trade. Okay, this is against the
free market economy. It hurts labor. Labor if you really
thought about you would never want it to happen. Okay,
just because your favorite team doesn't make it a good thing.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
So let me tew Let me throw this out you J. Cole,
because I agree, Like we talked about this last hour. Yes,
everybody needs to be fired. If you're the NFLPA, can
you dem and a new CBA? Say now, okay, obviously
there's lots of bad stuff. We don't know what was
above board beyond unless you really want us dig into this,
we want a new CBA right now?

Speaker 3 (50:12):
Well, well you're gonna trust to do it?

Speaker 1 (50:15):
Well, yeah, yeah, somebody knew that. You don't. You don't
have the same people, do it? You bring somebody new
when to do it?

Speaker 3 (50:21):
Can you do all sorts of things? You what you
you accuse them of everything you put those guys you put.
You hold the owners, you hold their feet to the fire. This,
this union is under the idiotic concepts and part of
the part of the biggest idiocy of this.

Speaker 5 (50:38):
And J. C.

Speaker 3 (50:39):
Treader, the former president of the NFLPA, a former player,
should answer this question, why did you think it was
a good idea to hire a man who was from
a management based company to run a union that's one
essential question, right, you know what, how will it comes

(51:03):
from management side? He comes from the ownership side of this,
of this equation. He's not a union guy, let alone.
He knows nothing about football, so he doesn't even know
what he needs to ask for. He doesn't even understand
the concepts that are here. You need to have people
who are actually union people. You need to have people
who understand football. That's why, you know. The more I

(51:25):
look back at and I know Gene Upshaw took a
lot of craft during his time his tenure, that man
understood this is how you fight for players. This is
how you fight for wages. Because the guys who are
the owners are trying to rip off the players less
and right, and they do it most of the time
because they're better at getting leverage. And he understand how
this business works. Okay, and yes, you should fight for

(51:47):
a new CBA. You're not really going to get one
this round, but you should use this as ammunition to
just make these guys look as bad as possible. Not
in front of the fans, because again, the fans don't PAMs,
just want games. They just want to see games. They
don't care about it buy and large, but in the court. Yes,

(52:09):
this is a really bad look if you can somehow
get into court, because this is how they won way
back when in the in the nineties, and they have
a fair CBA back then. Since then, since twenty eleven,
since the since the NFL got out of court and
successfully got themselves out of court, it's been a lotside CBA.

(52:30):
And guess what's happened. The owners have made money hand
over fist. I mean, this is what people don't understand
about the NFL. These aren't businesses anymore where they try
to make money. These are annuities. These are the you know,
the people who bought the Denver Bronco has paid you know,
six hundred million dollars or whatever that was because it

(52:52):
was a guaranteed profit. They knew they were going to
make money year after year after year with the value
of the team only going up. That's how good Roger
Goodell has been at his job. Roger Goodell has been
one of the greatest commissioners in the history of of
all sports. If you think that his job is to

(53:14):
work for the owners, okay, because put it this way,
he's managed to make Woody Johnson Richard despite how wood
he runs the Jets.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
You know, you could have said any other team instead
of the Jet. You don't always have to defend to.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no. I
couldn't say any other team. There was no other team
that I was going to say, not a single other team,
the only team that I was going to go after. Okay,
especially since Harmon you know, decide, you know, and Monty,
praise you for putting up with this for how long

(53:51):
you've got to put up with this show, you know,
whatever you had to do to earn your right to
be on with this guy. Okay, it for you. Okay,
But like Harman, I could have gone after the Bears.
You know, they're they're certainly you know, they're certainly culpable,
but the Jets are own a special place. So it

(54:11):
was only going to be the Jets. You knew this.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
Oh, thanks, buddy, I hear you. So you're looking out
for me, you.

Speaker 3 (54:16):
Know, no, no, no, no, no, give me these thanks, buddy.
You know you knew this was coming. You knew what
was happening. Okay, this was this. You knew it before
I even before I even answered your You know this?
You know, hey, how you doing? You knew that I
was coming after the Jets. You knew I was coming
after sheriff with me. You knew what was happening.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
I thought you're gonna zig instead of zagging.

Speaker 7 (54:41):
Okay, Oh no, no I go, I go zag right
at it.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
I have I go right for the cheap shot. Pal. Okay, okay,
this is this is the Marx Brothers pal. That's what
we do here. We go straight to the cheap shot.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
He goes right from here to watching duck Soup. He's
Jason Cole. He's on Twitter at Jason Cole sixty two.

Speaker 3 (55:03):
That is like Jason Brothers, long long ago and far away.
So there you go.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
Did he really did? Did you write duck Soup?

Speaker 3 (55:13):
No? He did not write duck Soup, but he wrote
some bits for the He wrote for the Marx Brothers
way way way back.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
When, and he couldn't He couldn't transfer any of that
talent over to you.

Speaker 3 (55:25):
That was good, very good.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
It's punch counter punch, Take it easy, body up, fun,
We'll talk to you.

Speaker 6 (55:33):
We be good.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
How about that?

Speaker 4 (55:36):
I think he likes you.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
Jason Cole's dad wrote for the Marx Brothers. Wait, wait, bait,
do you know who the Marx Brothers are.

Speaker 5 (55:42):
Yes, yes, hey, yes, okay, I worked at Universal Studios.

Speaker 4 (55:45):
So they're like, you know I had to learn about that.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
Yes, were you a tour guide? Was really okay?

Speaker 3 (55:51):
All right?

Speaker 1 (55:51):
Do you still? Could you still give a tour if
you had to?

Speaker 4 (55:53):
I think I think I could, if you know I could.
I could talk to Bruce the Shark meanic shark that comes.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
I can talk to very good.

Speaker 4 (56:01):
I can talk to Norman Bates. Oh yes, kill is
on the tram.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
Sure, sure, on a good Norman Bait story. Yes, this
is a good one. So we went this is about
this is about ten years ago. We went to Universal Studios.
We had friends in town. We went on a Sunday
night and it was Sunday night during football and the
Packers were playing somebody I forget who it was. And
in one of my big leagues, I needed Eddie Lacy
to have a big night or you know, we were

(56:27):
gonna lose. And he was having a big night, like
he had a touchdown, he had two touchdowns. I'm on
the tram going, oh we got another touchdown. I need
like ten more yards FM Eddie Lacy And people in
front of me like heard my voice. Sorry. I goes,
are you Jason Smith? And oh my god, hey, will
you take a picture with us?

Speaker 3 (56:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (56:41):
Sure, no problem whatever. So we go and we go
to the Psycho House and you take a picture with
a guy there who's dressed up as Norman Babs. So
he comes and he takes his knife and he puts
it under your under your throat. He's doing so while
we're waiting, and my friends are going and I'm in line.
I'm going, oh, come on, I just need one more catch.
Got to Eddie Lacy get over ninety yards, over ninety yards.
Oh my god, I have enough points. We'll have enough
points to win. Okay, okay. Then it was my turn.

(57:02):
I'm like, sure, I'll go get my picchu shaking. Okay.
So I go stand there and I swag on my
phone in my hand. My phone is down and the
and and the guy puts it. The guy Norman Bates
puts his knife around my neck and goes, how many
Fantasy points are Edie Lacy tonight? And he's got twenty
four Fantasy but so barely. He lays Fantasy League too.
He wanted to know how many Fantasy points he had.
Norman Bates asking me about Eddie Lacy and fantasy.

Speaker 4 (57:24):
Because NFL is king.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
That's how it goes.

Speaker 4 (57:26):
That's how it goes. That's awesome, that's good.