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Speaker 1 (00:31):
Hello, Welcome inside, Happy Wednesday, the Jason Smith Show with
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Speaker 4 (00:52):
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Speaker 5 (00:55):
You know, it's like a Sunday football preview show because
we got three and a half powers till the Open
kicks off.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
That is true. That is true.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
It's very exciting. It's it's the Open Championship countdown show.
We're going all the way to all the way through. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:08):
By time we get off air, guys will be on
the course.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Man I gotta say this, what what have you missed?
An Open Championship preview so far? Okay, Well, one of
the best golfers in the world doesn't know where any
of his trophies or medals are, and the best golf
in the world doesn't seem like he really cares about playing.
There's your Open Championship, right, yeah, that pretty much settles
her ever since he got the Grand Slam and everything
he's got of like, eh, yeah, but this one right,

(01:32):
it means this time it counts because it's home.

Speaker 4 (01:36):
Uh yeah. The Scheffler stuff is fun. Yeah, what do
you go do?

Speaker 5 (01:40):
I'm really good, but I gotta go.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Why do you uh well, why do you keep playing?
I don't know, you know, do you want to win?

Speaker 4 (01:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:46):
But you know it's the feelings there for like two
seconds and then it's gone. So again you have you
have the two of the both the most high profile
golfer who really feels like he needs a break in,
Rory McElroy and and and just and the.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
Best golfer in the world is like, yeah, I could
take or leave it. You know it really it does.

Speaker 5 (02:05):
One guy playing really tight in his head, everything calculated,
the other guy going Hey, let's.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
Come out there and have some fun. Let's go do it.

Speaker 5 (02:13):
H Scheffler plus five hundred McElroy plus seven hundred year
leaders on the board, rom coming in at twelve to one.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
That's like every golf fans nightmare going, Okay, you're not
gonna pigeonhole?

Speaker 3 (02:24):
Me?

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Is this elitist fan that, Hey, I like golf, so
I talk down to people. And look, when I talk
about golf, it's a conversation above the rim, conversation. Right
when we're talking about golf, you know you understand only
a few people know what we're talking about.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
Sanctity. Yeah, this is the worst. This is the worst
for Colling.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Yeah, your best player doesn't even care if he plays
or wins or not.

Speaker 5 (02:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
I just like to play. Okay, what about Yeah, I
don't know. I guess I guess I'll go out and play.
I mean, I'm great at it, so I could go
do it all right, that's fine.

Speaker 4 (02:53):
Can we just finish the round so I can go home.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
Yeah, I'm just I'm just gonna get I'm just really done,
all cars warmed up and ready to go.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
I've finished. I've finished. That's that's great. It's only your
height for the.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Open, and the thing is the Open Championship, honestly has
always been my favorite golf e end of the year
because I love the off times, I love the swale,
I love the fog. You know, everybody is dressed the same.
They're either wearing a gray sweater with black pants and
a black hat, or a or a gray hat with
a black sweater and gray pants. All Travis Matthew, everybody

(03:24):
looks like like Rory McElroy. Like, it's my thought, I've owed.
The Open Championship has always been my favorite event.

Speaker 4 (03:30):
Always that.

Speaker 5 (03:31):
You also got a reference into the nineteen eighty four
Kentucky Derby in Belmont staates champion Swale.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
Well, that's what they call the grass a swale, you know,
eighty four Swale eighty four. I remember s when Swale died.
That was the big headline on the back page of
the New York Post. It was a big picture of
Swale coming down the stress, says Swale dies. I'm like wow,
even then, when I was a kid, I'm like wow,
that's the headline on the back page of the paper.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
All the stuff going on.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
We got all this buddy at the Mets, the Yankee's
in the Jets and the jumpy huge Chure and the
Islanders and the ranges.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
Swale dies like that's the horse.

Speaker 5 (04:06):
I'm trying to go into my pop culture brain of
what eighty four did they reference it and the dead horse?

Speaker 4 (04:11):
Swale? Yeah, swale, but that's they call the grass.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
I get all that high grass and you lose your
ball in all the time swale the rough. Yeah, oh hey,
I played on it's called the I played on one
course like that once when I went back to Michigan
and and my I call my brother in law. Space
is what he is because my my wife's aunt. They're
basically sisters. So I just called my brother in law.
We went and we played this course that was you know,

(04:37):
link style, right, So I'm like, okay, great, And then
I'm like, oh man, if you if if you're off
the fairway, it's not like the others you have to
worry about trees and bushes and stuff. It's just because
it's a wide open like I'm gonna be great on
this course, right, I could see everywhere. But you get
off that and you're into the god like you're never
finding your ball because the grass is the swale is
so high, and I'm like, I'm not going in there.

Speaker 4 (04:58):
There's gonna be snakes in there.

Speaker 5 (04:59):
Did you you pull an extra compartment into your pants
pocket so you can go shawshank and extra?

Speaker 4 (05:06):
I got right right, it was right in the I
got it right here. Yeah, I'm this wide open little space.
I'm's going to take a drop right here?

Speaker 3 (05:14):
Is that?

Speaker 4 (05:14):
Okay? I gonna take a drop right here?

Speaker 6 (05:16):
That's what I want to do.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
So yeah, so we will take you all the way
up to uh the first hole of the Open Championship.

Speaker 4 (05:21):
Yeah, let's go. Yeah, very exciting.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
And you know it's funny because I always you know,
my wife and I we you know, ever since we
went to the UK last year and we visited and
we visited in London, we went to Scotland. I said,
had that that oh by the way trip where I
got to see Saint Andrews or I'm like, wait a.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
Minute, we're fifteen minutes from Saint Andrews.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
Because you know me, I don't know geography at all
when it comes to trivia geography. I go, I'm going
to the bathroom. You guys got this cause I'm not
going to.

Speaker 6 (05:41):
Give you anything.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
I got a couple of minutes, right, yeah, yeah, I'm
I'm going to bed geography and and uh geography and
and uh world religion. Like that's where I'm like, yeah, okay,
I'm out.

Speaker 4 (05:52):
I'm out.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
I'm bring me back to the other ones. But we
always talked about it. Boy, We tell you know, Scotland
is like this place. What could we retire in Scotland
at some day we think about, you know, living living
in the UK for a while, retiring there, you know,
years from now.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
Years now, I'm.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Saying, I'm gonna go to every course. I'm gonna go
play Carnousti. I'm gonna play all these different courses. It's
all it's and it's all close, right, like all these
I mean everything, Like you think about all the different
places in the United States where we've had the different
open where they have every year where they have the
US Open. So here it is in you know, in
New York, and and it's at Baltisrawl, but then here

(06:26):
it is at Pebble Beach. It's all, you know, it's impossible.
But like all these courses, Like we drove up to
the Scottish Highlands and we drove back, Oh that's where
they had. Oh that's an open chain. Oh, that's it
like four places where they had the Open champion. It
was in like fifteen minutes. It's like all the muni
courses that are around here. Oh, I could play in
Encino or I could play at Shermanoak's. It's like oh,

(06:46):
but it's like, hey, Carnoustie is right here, and you
know that's only a half hour away from Saint Andrews.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
Oh oh right, great, Like I'm like, I'm gonna go
do that.

Speaker 5 (06:54):
It's like trying to drive five minutes up the freeway
here and look, we're in a new city.

Speaker 4 (06:58):
It's exciting.

Speaker 5 (06:58):
Now I have to ask this, since you're talking about
the Highlands, did you keep your head on a swivel
in case you ran into the Kurgan?

Speaker 3 (07:05):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (07:05):
Yeah, well and head on swivels a big things. You
want to make sure you keep it. That's right, Yeah,
one hundred percent.

Speaker 5 (07:10):
Remember there can be only one I know, no, I know,
I know, and you gotta always remember that. But but
doesn't know the one time in your life you gotta
look out for number one truly. But firstly, foremost right,
you're a family man. You want to look out for
your wife, and child you might hit. In this case,
I gotta keep my own damn head.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
You want to look up to the top of this mountain, No,
that's where bad stuff happens.

Speaker 4 (07:29):
I'm not gonna get my head jumped on.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
If Mighty comes down, I got a sore if I'm
if I'm at sea level, I'm good. If I just
get standing up on that thing with Sean Connery, someone's
come to chop my head off if I'm not happening
not happening bad things now, So we continue to count
down towards Day one of the Open Championship. Meanwhile, a
move you would think today meant this was the NBA Championship,

(07:53):
that the Clippers are gonna win it all because they're
getting Bradley Beal Like, Wow, Okay, I understand, we're in
the Hey, we're waiting for Lebron James to get traded.

Speaker 4 (08:02):
We're waiting to see if other trades can happen.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
But let's understand, Bradley, Bradley Beal has never been the
missing piece. At least, Kevin Durant has been the missing
piece once in his career, all right, but now Bradley
Beal is the guy agrees to it buy out with
the Suns, right, you have to not you know, one
of two players of no trade clause and is going
to join the Clippers. This announcement coming very early today,
Shams Tarania having it as soon as he says, has

(08:25):
bought out from the Suns. He's going to the Clippers
two year, eleven million dollar option, two year eleven million
dollar deal. Oh but this is gonna get the Clippers
of the championship. The number of the number of reactions
to this, it was like, oh, Bradley Beal, is your
missing piece for a championship? First of all, if the
guy was a missing piece, a guy signs more than
two years eleven million. But let's just take the salary
thing and throw it out the window. Bradley Beal has

(08:48):
never done anything in his career. He's put up some numbers.
He went to Phoenix supposed to be the guy was
not there, supposed to be the missing piece was not.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
Got bought out by.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
The Sons, who are saying, hey, we're gonna start over
with We have no idea what we're putting out there
outside of Devin Booker, but we're paying him all the money,
so we may play one on five. I mean Bradley Beal.
He's an okay player. Really, I mean, Bradley Beal is
is okay? Yes, when you see the headline three time
NBA All Star Bradley Beal, Yeah, that looks great, that
looks right. But you can again, I say it all

(09:19):
the time, you can't look at the back of a
guy's basketball card and say, boy, this guy is fantastic.
He's a seventeen pointed game score. It's what he does,
all right.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
He's not someone that's gonna come in and suddenly, oh,
this team is going.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Over the top. The Clippers aren't going over the top.
The Clippers, it's gonna be the same. They'll win forty
five to fifty games, and they'll lose in the first
round of the playoffs because they're built around guys who
are forty five years old. That's what's gonna happen for
the Clippers. Okay, I just tell you right away. That's
how the Clippers go. Not that many though, but not
that not that many. It's not like you are almost

(09:52):
thirty and I said forty nine. These guys are all
thirty five. They're a wells at four, like they're getting
there like this is how the Clippers are gonna go
really okay, great.

Speaker 5 (09:59):
Now I will get him credit a couple of moves
that they make and bringing in Lopez, they get rid
of Norman Powell, who should have been an All Star,
had a great year, all of those things, but you
get Beal on a two year, eleven million dollar deal.
Second year is an option player options, So if he
plays well, guess what he's gonna go sign someplace else
or the Clippers have decided, yes, you are the missing

(10:21):
piece and we move forward. The other part of it,
thirteen point nine million give back for over those final
two years. The wave and stretch like they did with
Dame Lillard over in Milwaukee, means about nineteen point two
per year on the books for him for Phoenix for
the next five years. But they're able to go Vegas
blackjack dealer and say beat it and away he goes.

Speaker 4 (10:45):
But you're actually.

Speaker 5 (10:46):
Gonna get a guy in a system where there are
some expectations. Phoenix had to a point, but the Wizards
were what I mean, that's empty stats, right, that's empty calories.
That's sitting down at the couch with a bag of
chips and before you know what, you're at the end
of the bag of chip. Sure you got past the air,
but you still ingested three thousand galleries because you can't

(11:07):
stop it just one and you're watching TV.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
You're not paying attention.

Speaker 5 (11:11):
That's like playing for the Wizards, and to a degree,
playing for the Suns the last couple of years, like
when is this gonna end? I mean, all three of
those guys, we're just sitting around looking at each other,
like really, this this is what we're doing.

Speaker 4 (11:22):
It was the.

Speaker 5 (11:22):
Spider Man's meme of all right, who's taking the blame
for this loss? And why won't you wave your no
trade clause? Why aren't you willing to move? And Devin
Booker's over there. But here's what I agree with you.
In Phoenix, it's okay, who do we blame for the loss?

Speaker 4 (11:39):
What happened? In Washington, it's hey, I have no idea
what's been going on?

Speaker 3 (11:43):
What what?

Speaker 4 (11:44):
What? What's the season? Because no one pays it no.

Speaker 5 (11:46):
But here it's still going by and James Harden and
their failures. Bradley Beal gets to get out of jail
free card so you can just go and play basketball.
Kenny though, Kenny, Kenny, Well, but that's the question can
he played basket?

Speaker 4 (11:58):
Okay, I'm saying he's freed.

Speaker 5 (12:00):
Up of any of the the extra So look, you're
not turning back the clock to when he was.

Speaker 4 (12:05):
Actually a really good player. I'm not suggesting that at all.

Speaker 5 (12:09):
But at five point five million dollars, it keeps you
out of any of the dreaded second aprons and all
that other nonsense that we have to skirt around these days.
And for the Clippers it's the long term. Wait, we
can make this run and then everybody's done except for
Zuba Hutch and maybe one or two other contracts.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (12:27):
No, I kind of liked this.

Speaker 5 (12:28):
Yeah, yeah, so Balmer gets to do a complete reset, right,
he gets a look when he gets.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
To spend a lot of money and try it again
at the end to it dome.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Look, look, let me just let me just say this.
Let me just say this about it's the Clippers. I
know I can't be sold to Bill of Goods on
how this is their year and this is now the
seventh year.

Speaker 4 (12:45):
I didn't do that at all, did I? I mean,
you weren't any of that saying that.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
I feel, you know, Kawhi Leonard's been here long enough
where I feel like it's the only team he's ever
played on.

Speaker 4 (12:56):
I like, wait, he won with the Raptors. That wasn't
what was that like to thousand and three? Now, it
wasn't that long ago with the Spurs.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
What was that In the nineties it was him and
Duncan right when they won when David Robinson retired. To me,
I feel that's all. And that's how long the Clippers
have done nothing. And it's the same thing whether it's
Doc Rivers is the head coach or Philip Rivers is
the head coach. Every year they went about team including
a benure and and they get into the playoffs and
they lose in the first round. Like now, there's a

(13:24):
time where I am gonna say this and don't want
to say too much about too many bad things.

Speaker 4 (13:29):
Uh what do I care?

Speaker 1 (13:31):
But the thing that like you go back where hey,
if the Clippers, there was a point maybe seven eight
years ago where it was you know, you're you're getting
to the end of the Sterling era and everything that happened,
where you say, all right, time out here, if the
if you're telling me the Clippers they can win forty
five games and get to the playoffs and probably lose
in the first round. Every Clipper the Clippers would sign
up for that. Great, because it's been it's been so

(13:51):
bad for so long. But that was also before you
started spending all kinds of money on Kawhi and Paul
George and James Harden for every year to end this. Yeah, okay,
you bought your way to forty five wins and a
first round playoff exit after eight years, Like that's not
good enough anymore. But instead of saying, hey, we tried
this right, we tried this right. Kawhi this is his

(14:12):
sixteenth year with the Clippers. Okay, he's now a vested
he's now part owner of the Clippers.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
He's been here so long.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
Instead of saying, you know what, hey, we tried it
for five, six, seven years, it just didn't work. Let's
get a younger base. The Clippers have become kind of
a destination. Let's do something different. Nope, let's keep going
with Kawhi and whoa, we have one overpriced aging veteran
having trouble staying healthy. That let's ship him out and
let's bring in another one who's the same way. And

(14:39):
when we go sign guys, let's sign other guys.

Speaker 4 (14:41):
In free agency? Who are that age and older?

Speaker 3 (14:44):
Like?

Speaker 1 (14:44):
You don't win if you are if you're built around
thirty five year old players, he doesn't happen.

Speaker 5 (14:50):
Hey, man, I'm old enough to remember street lights over spotlights. Okay,
those billboards them the injury attorneys now, Jim Harbaugh. But
that's what you got on your highways and buy of
Los Angeles. Yeah, meanwhile, they were you you spend more
money on their.

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we'll get to the league. That is really really nervous
right now. I mean so nervous after news today coming
up in a second, but don't want to ignore some
of the big news today that apparently, you know, we
saw the news Fox Sports one replacing a bunch of.

Speaker 4 (17:17):
Shows and are now according.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
To many reports, we could see Barstool Sports have a
lot of their programming on Fox Sports, right and Dake
Portnoy would be on College Game Day and potentially some
of the shows that they do are gonna be on Fox.
And you know, when I saw this today, I said wow.
I said, you know, there's there's certain things where it's

(17:41):
all about timing, right, I mean people's careers and what
they do in their life. It's really comes down to timing.
You could be really really talented and stuff, but if
the timing just isn't right, it isn't right. There's been
times in my life from my career where the timing
was perfect. There's been times where, boy boy, you know
it's in the like in the Simpsons, when when when
When the when Chief Wiggams says, okay, yeah, I'm the

(18:03):
number one cop in Springfield, and I'm on the case.
And then uh, Mary quinn be comes over and goes, oh,
by the way, here is your kickback. And he said,
you couldn't have come here at a worse time. You
couldn't come at the worst time. Right, there's a certain
time a boy that couldn't come at a worse time.
So if barstool does come to Fox, right, when when
Barstool first had their sports, when they were connected, had
shows on ESPN very briefly, and it was they got

(18:25):
knocked off, they decided, okay, we can have this. It's
a different type of of of content with Barstool Sports
obviously that you've seen, versus what ESPN likes.

Speaker 4 (18:34):
To put on there.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
And when I saw that, I said, how long is
that gonna last? I mean really, how long we talked
about it? How long is that gonna last?

Speaker 3 (18:39):
Right?

Speaker 4 (18:42):
That's it's not gonna last.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
Right?

Speaker 1 (18:44):
But now, okay, so years later, the Barstool brand continues
on and now here they are at Fox that is
competing you know, as more of we ever had been
directly with ESPN for things.

Speaker 4 (18:54):
Look you look at the radio lineup we have here.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
We have the best line up nationally across the across
the country. Fox has become when it comes to radio
and content and content people.

Speaker 4 (19:03):
A you know, we're the top dogs.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
And for Barsool to come in now with their brand
of programming, I get completely what FS one is doing
because it's there now going after Okay, who is going
to move the needle for us during the day. We've
you know, we've we've had the athletes on and everybody
bringing on hot takes, and that seems to be the
way things have been the last few years. But now

(19:26):
you're seeing a bit of an adjustment in the in
the audience towards a younger crowd. And look, these shows
are going to go on and compete directly with Pat
McAfee because that's exactly the audience they're going after, right,
They're only after the younger audience to eighteen to thirty four.

Speaker 4 (19:40):
This is what it's gonna be.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
And instead of here's a couple of former athletes, come on,
it's gonna be here's some shows. This is what we do. Now,
it's gonna be the same type of stuff on a
different network. And and Fox is going to use that
to compete with what goes on in the ESPN because look,
ESPN's built around Steven Asmith and Pat McAfee, right, that's it.
That's their brand is Steven Asmith and Pat mca. So
now here's Fox coming on still with Colin in the

(20:03):
morning and first things first, and those shows are doing
really well. And now if this happens, I think this
is completely and I'm not saying this that hey, I
want to do shows, No, I look at that too.
This is this is how you compete now in twenty
twenty five, right, we tried to go after a certain
audience for a long time. Where's the growth, right, where's
the growth you can go after? And this and this

(20:24):
is that audience and growth to go after. So I
completely get why this is going on.

Speaker 5 (20:28):
Well, the rules of engagement also changed in a lot
of this, right when we look at big noon kickoff
and what it's become for Fox, Hallmark events and entertainers
popping up and whatever. That huge battle and clash for
Saturday morning early afternoon eyeballs is certainly there. But the
McAfee branded to Reverend right, a lot of curse and

(20:49):
a lot of no sleeves. Definitely no sleeves, but lack
of a better job. Good bro not good bro, right,
the brota not good well. And you're also so in
a climate in the United States in twenty twenty five
where you can joke again or make the joke and
see how it lands as opposed to get out, which

(21:10):
is the climate when Barstool was going to ESPN a
few years ago, right, we watched it just you know
the SP's right, it's the All Star break story on
a Wednesday, the Chine chain Meal lists, right, and the
jokes that he's putting out there, those are those things
that got.

Speaker 4 (21:26):
Him fired from other jobs.

Speaker 5 (21:27):
Right, So it's that kind of thing and Barstool, you know,
irreverent content and some controversy.

Speaker 4 (21:35):
You don't shy away.

Speaker 5 (21:37):
From it necessarily the same way, right if your head
competition is going to embrace some of that piece, as
they've done with the McAfee show. And he certainly stepped
into it a number of times, he and his crew
that you know, Portnoy and his band of merriment.

Speaker 4 (21:52):
I mean it could be the same thing.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Well it look look when I talk about timing, like
obviously the timing wasn't right then because it was too
new of a thing and it was too scary to
a lot of executives, right, it's too scary. So but
when you also and so the timing, now things work
better because people have now gotten used to it more.
It's it's no longer where we're gonna put this on
the air and spit what is this? I cannot believe this? Okay,

(22:14):
we get that it's new, and maybe it was too new.
It's it's very similar to what we saw in the
All Star Game last night, where now the ABS system
is gonna you're gonna be able to, at some point
in the future challenge balls and strikes right away. Like
the batter or the pitcher or the catcher can challenge
a ball strike call. They go to the box technology
and it's either gets overruled and and the call stays,

(22:36):
or or either is confirmed in the call stays or
it gets overruled. And eventually we're gonna have robot umpires.
But you can't just throw the computer or robot umpires
in there right away because there'll be too much backlash
because it's too new, too fast. But you get used
to the idea of this technology, and you see how
it worked last night, right four for four, people start Okay,

(22:57):
I get this all right, I'm okay a little bit more,
and the backlash is not that big and the uproar
is not as big. So now the same thing with barstool,
with going towards the Fox brand, which is more hey,
more maverick, more outside the box, more, we don't really
care what you tweet other than ESPN that's very more
buttoned down. So now that everybody is used to this,
and as you say that you know the climate change

(23:17):
is where it goes from. Hey, this is stuff we
really can here to. Let's see what said and see
how it lands. This is now the timing is simply
better because you've gotten used to that brand and certain things,
so it's no longer as big of a shock to you.
And you also have a more frame of reference, as
if we put this show on, we kind of know
what we're gonna get you.

Speaker 4 (23:38):
Before we didn't know what we're gonna go. You've got
proof of concept both.

Speaker 5 (23:40):
For that brand and its extension and good, bad and
different wherever you stand on their content, it's successful and
it attracts often an audience and offense. And then you've
got for McAfee again proof of concept. And you've also
been able to have a little bit of institutional learning
from what has been done and how things have been

(24:02):
navigated on the other side of the aisle.

Speaker 4 (24:04):
So it's that.

Speaker 5 (24:05):
All right, we've seen this, so we know and we
can start planning for when, if when, and if we
have any kind of issues that you know, we have
a tactical response fairly short order. Now you you brought
up the robot umpires. I'd be remiss if I didn't
talk about something that keeps showing up in my timeline.
I don't know if it's AI generated or actual happening

(24:29):
of these running robots in China. Oh yeah, it looked
like Detroit Arnie from the Clone War. Oh that's exactly
what's gonna happens. Terrifying you everything is those might be the.

Speaker 4 (24:38):
Umpires execute Order sixty six. What does that mean? Oh
my goodness. The player guy argued, balls and shrikes he'd done.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
But then it would look good because the players would
be fighting back with bats that would look like lightsabers,
And then someone would would would do the whole like
John Wick scene with lightsabers instead of swords, and it
would look like the players are fighting back with with
lightsabers instead after it gets photoshopped.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
Oh, that'd be fantastic. How have we not figured out
how to make those bats already?

Speaker 1 (25:04):
Yeah, WANs So would have a big purple lightsaber that
big mace Wind.

Speaker 5 (25:10):
Insisted it happen to be purple when he signed on
to the to the franchise.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Yeah, that's my lightsaber, mother blanker. Let's say I did like.

Speaker 4 (25:17):
The little meme.

Speaker 5 (25:18):
Also, at Wan Soto watching the All Star Game, it
was a cartoon surrounded by money, but with a tear coming.

Speaker 4 (25:24):
Yes, uh never guy.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
While the Major League Baseball taking a break after the
All Star Game, we're waiting for the end. Look again,
a couple of NFL teams coming to camp today the
next week or so.

Speaker 4 (25:35):
UJAH tried to get off the snide in summer. Oh yeah, yeah,
you put money on the Jazz tonight.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
You are somewhat nervous right now, But uh, the most
nervous league in the world is the w NBA All
Star festivities at home for Caitlin Clark this weekend and
her status uncertain after her groin injury last night. Missed
tonight's game against the Liberty. And you know when it happened,

(26:00):
We saw right away, we said uh, oh, I think
Caitlyn Clark just got hurt. Backdoor passed with about forty
seconds left to go and the fever win. She ran
down the court, put her hand over her right groin
and stopped and pounded the stanchion with her fists because
she knew she was hurt, not the same groin she
had been out with. So this is now a double
groin injury for Caitlyn Clark and her status for this

(26:22):
weekend is uncertain. This is the worst nightmare for the WNBA,
who has been fighting the perception issue of do they
know what they're doing? Does the league know? Why do
the players all hate Caitlyn Clark? Why is this jealousy?
Why is social media all taken up with Kitlyn Clark
versus angel Rees. This is supposed to be a weekend

(26:44):
where it's okay, everybody understands Caitlyn's the show, right, We're
all in this together. Here is the festivities. She wanted
to wait till she got to Indiana to do the
three point shooting contest, which she still scheduled to do. Oh,
there's still a couple of days ago. This was going
to be that the moment of hey, where where like
when when Hollywood couples announced they're a couple, but he

(27:06):
put that big picture on Instagram and them holding hands,
or they're photographed on a red carpet together, look's together.

Speaker 4 (27:11):
This was the.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
WNBA's moment where it was gonna be this is Caitlin,
She's the show. You got to put your jealousies away,
and you have to understand seeing this All star the
festivities and seeing the r around it. She's bringing us
to great places like this was a big opportunity and
is a big opportunity for the WNBA to maybe move
past some of those crazy issues that they can't seem

(27:33):
to get past. This is that moment where Caitlyn Clark
takes center stage. You know, Blank, you Cheryl Reeve and
you and you don't like me and all this stuff. Understand,
you have to get on board, right because you have to.
No matter how you feel, you got to get on board.
But now who knows? Can she take part in the
three point shooting contest? Can she take part in the
All Star Game? And it's gonna be festivities where you

(27:55):
don't get her, and I know that they'll they'll be
dep put things like put her on TV and they'll
have her during that broadcast, which you can't be on
all these different things, but it's not gonna be the
same as seeing her. She gets people to the television
unlike anybody else in sports right now. Nobody else in
sports gets people to the TV like Caitlyn Clark. You
can look at her games and say, there's the difference

(28:16):
one person playing in a game. That's why they watch
that game. No one liked that in the NFL. No
one liked that in the NBA, no one liked that
in Major League base I mean, I mean, Pete A.
Lonzo Is, but you know, and like that all the
other sports. But she's that, and if she's not there,
this is a huge missed opportunity for the WNBA. They
are doing whatever they can right now. They got all
kinds of they're they're they're putting all kinds of karma
out there right now and trying to Hey, I got

(28:38):
some kind of homemade ointments for you here to get
better and do this. My mom had a strain growing.
She took this pill and she was better in five seconds.
Come on, can we need you this weekend? Like the
w needs Caitlin Clark so badly?

Speaker 5 (28:50):
Well, it's also a difficult process, right, because you did
sign the two point two billion dollar right steal Amazon, NBC,
Disney that starts at next year, so that's in the books,
but it's also you're going into CBA negotiations during this time.
The rights expire and the agreement, I should say expires

(29:11):
in October, so after the season ends were and we've
had a lot of back and forth about you know,
maybe conflict of interest with the other leagues and everything
else that are floating right the unrivaled league. So you've
got that swirling in the background. This is your big
marquee event. It was built for her in Indianapolis to
have this giant spectacle where she might as well have

(29:34):
been main eventing the second night of WrestleMania, the way
this thing has been built for the last year. And
so this injury absolutely crushing in many ways because a
lot of you know, the proof of concept and advertising
rates and everything saying, look at the popularity.

Speaker 4 (29:50):
Look at this is what we can do at our best.

Speaker 5 (29:53):
A lot of those eyeballs go away if she's not there, right,
and a lot of the interest for the weekend doesn't
mean we won't still cover it here Fox Sports Radio
to a degree, but it's it's a little less of
a show. But John Paul Morosi, I think it hurt
him in his being to call the All Star Game
a show yesterday, but he recognized, like with what Fox

(30:14):
put on and what Major League Baseball did was a
big show, that's what the w NBA was banking on
for this weekend, and that star is a little diminished.
A few strands of light just went out on your
Christmas tree.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
I mean, this would be such a huge missed opportunity
and the w Just if I'm Kathy Engelbert, I'm sitting
here saying, just wake me up on Friday and tell
me that she's playing. Just I don't want to know
anything else. I can't sit here. The clock is ticking
so unbelievably slow.

Speaker 5 (30:42):
Just wake me up Friday to tell me she's just
been submerged in one of those tanks, like when Skywalker
was getting defrosted.

Speaker 4 (30:49):
The back to tack, back to come on, man, back
to tank is what it is. The back to tank.

Speaker 5 (30:52):
I was going for what it was. I wasn't gonna
I was going for the I was going broadcast. But yeah,
but that was going to then when you know something,
you gotta say it.

Speaker 4 (31:01):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Yeah, when two to one B worked on him and
made sure he made him as good as he could
legend and then he kissed his sister.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Time out to find out what's trending in the wide
world of sports. Martin Wise had a time What you
got on for us tonight?

Speaker 6 (31:13):
What's going on? Fellas?

Speaker 8 (31:14):
Free agent defensive vand von Miller will join the Commanders
on a reported one year deal.

Speaker 6 (31:19):
Two sides reporting on this one.

Speaker 8 (31:21):
Von Miller himself posted a picture of Champ Bailey in
a Washington uniform on his Instagram page, and Adam Schefter
taking care of the reported one year deal part the
team still working on the compensation.

Speaker 6 (31:33):
Last year's MLB All Star Show.

Speaker 8 (31:36):
According to John Paul Morose, he drew seven point two
million viewers on Fox three times. NBA All Star Bradley
Beale has agreed to a contract buyout with the Suns
and plans to join the Clippers on a two year,
eleven million dollars deal player option after clearing waivers. The
Spurs are shutting number two overall pick Dylan Harper down
for the remainder of Summer League.

Speaker 6 (31:56):
In the w NBA, the.

Speaker 8 (31:57):
Fever be delivered ninety eight to seventy seven, with Caitlin
Clark out of the lineup.

Speaker 6 (32:02):
She was ruled out before the game.

Speaker 8 (32:04):
Breonna Stewart had a twenty four point eleven rebound double double.
Clark's status for All Star Weekend, as you just heard
the boys talking about yet to be confirmed. Age Wilson
had a thirty seven point ten rebound double double. Ages
beat the Wings ninety to eighty six, storm over the
Valkyrie sixty seven to fifty eight, Links win as well,

(32:24):
and the Dream win big over at the Sky. The
NFL Broncos have signed their first round pick, cornerback John
John Dave Baron out of Texas to his rookie deal.
That means just sir Mark Stewart, who ironically is working
out in Texas, but it's the Cincinnati Bengals seventeenth overall
pick is the only unsigned first round pick from April's draft,

(32:45):
and Chargers running back Najie Harris likely begin training camp
on the NFI list Non Football injury after sustaining a
fourth of July firework injury to his eye.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Back to you guys, thanks a bunch of dub Jason
Smith Mike Harmon live from the Fox Sworts Radio studios.
Coming up next, Why are suddenly the Lakers unbelievably stressed
in this offseason? Here the thing, it ain't about Lebron.
It's next right here, Jason and Mike. Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
I guarantee you that caller tells everybody knows hey.

Speaker 4 (33:29):
On The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon, they.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
Run my thing where I go looking for the woman
looking for the one. Listen, listen they do it. I
guarantee you he tells everybody he knows they do that.
Don't trust me, man, And then they go, dude, I
just heard it. It's it's a song. No, no, they
do a different one.

Speaker 4 (33:44):
It's me.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
Yeah whatever you say, Rick whatever? Man, Yeah, no problem, Ye,
all right. They play him on the radio. Sure, yeah,
but you can't HiPE him too much. He'll come back
saying that tight shirt owes him copyright. Looking for the
woman looking for the one. Fox Sports Radio The Jason
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tire buying should be. So according to reports, and by
that I mean Brian Wenthorse the ESPN, the Lakers are
stressed right now. They are under a lot of stress.

Speaker 4 (34:26):
Well, yeah, Lebron Jay, No, this does not have anything.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
To do with Lebron James. Lebron James a complete separate
entity from this. Whether he's traded, bought out of, stays
with the team, all of this, right.

Speaker 4 (34:37):
Is it the fact that the big move was DeAndre Eyton.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
I'd be stressed if my big move was only DeAndrea. Okay,
but but that's different stress. They are stressed because Luka Donsich,
who in fifteen six seventeen days is eligible to sign
a big contract extension. No, obviously it's less than the
one he could have signed with the mav So he's
gonna he would sign for about one hundred million lesson

(35:03):
he could have made. If he waits another year, he
can sign for more money, right, which is you know
we've heard about you know, many players are waiting for
the next year they can sign for like Nikola Jokic.
Uh didn't sign his his extension this offseason because next
offseason he can make even more money. But the Lakers,
according to Brian Windhorst, are stressed because if Luca doesn't

(35:24):
accept the extension now, which why would you if you
could make more money and you're twenty five twenty six
years old than you're Luca. Potentially this opens the door
to all of a sudden, other teams saying, hey, Luka,
you're so means you're gonna be a free agent because
you're If you're gonna wait till next offseason to sign
this money, you're gonna be a free Hey we love you.
Come here, and all of a sudden, it's open season

(35:46):
on getting Luka Doncic and the Lakers would understandably be
stressed because they made this big trade. They're moving up,
they're pushing Lebron out the door, and they want to
make Luca the franchise part, and he's like, ah, I'm
gonna wait and sign. When you wait to sign, this
allows other teams to come out and maybe you don't
fall in love with the Lakers like you like they
wanted you to. And at the end of the year,

(36:06):
it's yeah, I can still get a lot of money
someplace else. I'm going, all right, so I get the
Lakers stress, right, But here's where I'm a problem solver.

Speaker 4 (36:14):
Here's my problem solver.

Speaker 5 (36:15):
This change all the dope the NBA rules about payments
and bonuses. Yeah, but that what you're eligibles from back. Hey,
that guy the team all NBA, So I'm screwed.

Speaker 4 (36:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
But here's the thing. It's the summer and it's too hot,
not out of time for that. Okay, this this is
a little bit more more straight line. Oyeah, yeah, okay,
that you know that is that's a middle of the winter.
Oh boy, uh mister Marley, you're here, mister Scrooge late tonight, Yeah,
redoing all the NBA stuff. Uh, that's middle of the
winter when you don't go outside in this deepot an

(36:46):
hour of sudden Okay, this is where this is where
I give the Lakers tough love. And I and I say, huh, okay,
I hear you on that. I understand. So, so how
do you fix this?

Speaker 6 (36:55):
Jason?

Speaker 1 (36:56):
Suck it up? Suck it up and woo Luca or
the next g Yeah, you've got this high, suck it up.
This is the price you pay for running your franchise
unlike what a modern NBA franchise is.

Speaker 4 (37:10):
Runner.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
We said this when the Lakers were sold to Mark Walter,
we said, thank you. Maybe now things will get better
because the Lakers being run like a mom and pop show. Hey,
that was great and I miss that, But clearly the
Lakers are not We're not being run to how an
NBA team, a high level, high market NBA team needs
to be run in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 3 (37:30):
Right.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
You can't sit here and say you have money problems.
That's not doesn't work right.

Speaker 4 (37:33):
Everybody's worth so much money now. These are the owners
that are running things.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
So that's why it was such a great day for
the Lakers because, hey, Mark Walter's coming in. Now you expect, Okay,
we're gonna start spending money at some point, really big.
We're not gonna worry about this. We're not gonna let
Rich Paul and Clutch Sports dictate who we go sign
in free agency. That's why this was such a big deal.
But I tell the Lakers, yeah, suck it up. This
is the price you pay for running your franchise the

(37:57):
way you have the last few years. You gotta spend
a year wooing your guy that you want to sign
the day he is able to the minute he is
able to to that long term contract extension. So yeah,
do I feel bad they have to do this? I
do not, because you brought this on yourself. But it's
not unsolvable. Woo him for the next year. Whatever you
need to do to make him happy. You make him

(38:18):
happy because he's the guy you decided to empower and
make him the centerpiece of the franchise. So guess what,
that's what you gotta do. Do you want to have
to do this? No, you want the Lakers to be
able to sell itself. But this is not twenty years ago.
This is not come play with Shack right, This is
not come play with Magic and kareem right. This is
not other destinations across the NBA where I just want

(38:39):
to go play there because they're gonna win and I
love what's going on. This is not the Golden State
Warriors of the you know most of the ten years
up until a couple of years ago. This is the
price you pay. So suck it up, woo him, and
that's how you get hum.

Speaker 5 (38:51):
Yeah, I mean we know with the second apron it's complicated,
but there are a lot of restrictions that go along
with it in terms of your roster, where your draft
pick goes to.

Speaker 4 (38:59):
The end of the round.

Speaker 5 (39:00):
You can't aggregate salaries and trades, which is part of
the considerations when we start looking at Lebron deals for
anywhere in the trade market.

Speaker 4 (39:08):
But yeah, the Walter.

Speaker 5 (39:10):
Money, and you can't tell me that this wasn't already
going on behind the scenes when that trade came under
cover of night. You know, by that sell you some land,
you know, the oceanfront property in Arizona, right, as George
Strait saying. But all of it to say that you
get all the secondary stuff, right, all the luxuries of

(39:32):
an organization of Wait, we can upgrade our training facilities,
we can have more people on staff, here's the latest equipment,
here's all of these things that maybe cash strapped quote
unquote you couldn't do in the past as a the
mom and bop entity as it were, in terms of
spending on the squad. I mean they spent the money,
not it's just a matter of spending it wisely right

(39:54):
to your point about Rich Paul and Clutch Sports and
their stranglehold over the history. Now, they didn't push for
the second year, an extension or any of that stuff
from Paul's latest comments, So this looks like it's the
final run, assuming he stays in LA but all of that, Yeah,
you've got to really bust it out for Luca and

(40:16):
a lot of bobblehead and pillow nights.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
Not often I give the suck it up advice, but
this is one suck it up. Suck it up and
do it with I suck it up. Coming up next, Boy,
do we have a big NFL rivalry that seems to
have been reignited after the big news today.

Speaker 4 (40:32):
That's next. Fox.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
This is part of the only French I know Let's
use song vissage means eyes without a face. If you
know that, I know that look at you because I
well you do it in the song. I'm like, let's
use song mavissage eyes without a face like yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (41:01):
He just re released the album that was the Rock
the Cradle of Love album Wow.

Speaker 4 (41:06):
Rock the credit Uh Cradle Love ninety No.

Speaker 5 (41:10):
Ninety ninety ninety ninety one, Billy Idol Cradle of Love.

Speaker 4 (41:14):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
Joining us now on the hot line to chop up
Bill Belichick and Bob Kraft.

Speaker 4 (41:23):
Hey, Cradle of Love. It works, h and.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
The Jets doing things right. We have upset wide receivers
and we have his theme music. He has longtime NFL
insider on the thirty third team. He is a Hall
of Very Good voter. It is Jason Cole, Jake Cole.
What's up, buddy.

Speaker 3 (41:44):
I'm trying to thinking about this Rock the Cradle of Love,
very good good. We theocret a.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
Cradle of Love is a very good song. It's not
White Wedding, but it's a it's still a very good
white weddings.

Speaker 3 (41:59):
A great I will say that there's nothing like a
good snarl from Billie Idol.

Speaker 4 (42:05):
Oh yeah, yeah, you can do it.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
I think you do with both with both sides of
his lips too. He's not just a one song guy.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
He was ambl lipstrick. So whatever you call that.

Speaker 4 (42:14):
Yeah, yeah, that big deal.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
I'm going to see if that's the word ambulist, lipstrick,
ambulypic like that.

Speaker 3 (42:23):
It was off the top of my head, and I
don't think that's too bad.

Speaker 4 (42:26):
That's not bad.

Speaker 5 (42:27):
Yeah, nineteen ninety release, and it was after and he
completed the album that had his motorcycle accident.

Speaker 4 (42:31):
Which is why the I just searched it.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
I just searched amble, lipstrick, and it just says, did
you mean one of these other words?

Speaker 4 (42:44):
And it gives me a whole bunch of other words.

Speaker 6 (42:45):
I don't even know.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
Yeah, pretty much that I don't even know.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
Yeah, well, the first one is a premo last. Isn't
that something in ozempic? Right, that's like the first did
you mean to search a premo last?

Speaker 4 (42:57):
I think that's a.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
That's more of a Robert Kennedy question. Okay, I'm not
qualified to answer.

Speaker 4 (43:03):
To that aflabs. I'm not sure he is either, but
I know I'm not applasib. Yeah, adaptick. That's just coming
close to saying we're.

Speaker 3 (43:15):
Making it up, man, We're just making it up search
as you might like, we are rewriting the English language
during this show.

Speaker 4 (43:23):
There we go.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
That is what we bring. That's what that is the
cultural significance of this show, at least when I'm on it.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
But I have to ask you a very serious question,
because we talked about the Bob Kraft Bill Belichick battle
a few minutes ago about you know, Kraft says, hey,
I took a big risk hiring Belichick in nineteen ninety nine,
and Belichick responded to ESPN today saying, I took the
big risk taking the job. Who's taking a bigger risk
tonight us having you on the show. Are you coming
on the show with us?

Speaker 3 (43:51):
Well, it definitely me coming out of the show with
you guys.

Speaker 4 (43:54):
Why is that?

Speaker 3 (43:56):
Well? Whose reputation is more is higher? I'm a hall
of I'm a Hall of.

Speaker 4 (44:02):
Fame almost very good.

Speaker 5 (44:06):
You almost said very good voter, and we've conditioned him
all of very good voter.

Speaker 9 (44:14):
You don't say this.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
To all of fame.

Speaker 4 (44:20):
The thing with the guy in the place.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
I'm a Hall of very fame voter. There we go.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
That was like check swing, let's look it down at
first pace he went around.

Speaker 4 (44:28):
He meant to say hall of very.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
Good, but I'm a hall of very is out on
that wing for pedro Borbone.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
I tell me, what are you making this whole Belichick say,
and he had the bigger risk in his battle with Craft.

Speaker 3 (44:45):
Oh, it's it's a childish It's just it's just the
most childish. I don't understand how two men who who
accomplished everything that they did together can't look at each
other and make teeth. And granted Belichick, Belichick has to

(45:06):
have a certain amount of self awareness that he's a
gigantic pain in Can I say, can I say the
A word? Or yeah, here's a gigantic pain in the
act to deal with. But this time in your life,
if you're Build Belichick, you should sit there and you say, yeah,
that's who I am. I get it. I'm really difficult

(45:29):
to work with, but this is what it takes to
work with me. So you have to do it my way.
And Bob Kraft has to sit there and say, I
needed to get him to run this organization after everything
that happened with ourselves and then Pete Carroll and all
that stuff, and I needed him and together they You know,
when you put Tom Brady together with him, you have

(45:53):
the most magical run in the history of the NFL.
And you should look back and appreciate that because it
put you both on the map, be in the Hall
of fame, not the fame or very fame in the
hall of fame truly. Okay, So the fact that they
can't make peace about this and apologize, to which I

(46:14):
like Kraft does own a legitimate apologize apology for undercutting
him with the Atlanta job last year, and you know,
not supporting him towards the end, and you know, the
way he necessarily could happen. You're definitely running him off
when he maybe could have given him a one more
year to try and see if the rebuild would work.

(46:35):
But there were justifications for Lett Belichick go at the end.
I don't think it was that huge a controversy, but
I would have liked to have seen Kraft say, here,
stay here and break Shula's record, Like, let me give
you that after all you did for us, Stay here,
break Shula's record. Do it as a patriot, and then

(46:56):
you know we'll part we'll part company after that. He
didn't need to do it quite as early as he did, so, like,
you know, just call each other and say, let's put
this aside. This is silly, it's just but they can't.
They're just too Caddy and and Bob Craft is catty
too in his own way. I told you, you know,
being in his office. You know, after Jerry Jones made

(47:16):
the Hall of Fame and he started to say, well
Jerry did this, and I just said, Jerry is p T. Barnum.
You just have to accept that that's what he is,
and that's why he's in the Hall of Fame. And
yet Bob Craft deserves to be in the Hall of Fame.
And the way that they've made the rules with the
Hall of Fame will probably keep him out longer than

(47:39):
he should. But he's he should be in the Hall
of Fame, and he should be in in a large
part because of the partnership that he had with Bill Belichick,
not just because he hired or took a chance on
the old Belichick.

Speaker 5 (47:52):
In the interim, will continue to get the half assed
verbal slap fight between these two.

Speaker 4 (47:57):
I want you, I want someone.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
It's so it's such a joke. It's just such a joke.
That's a joke from both of them. I mean, I
look at it and I just stop being children. You're
just really you both need to stop this ridiculous you know,
this ridiculous cat fight.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
Now here's where I can help you, Ja Cole, because
this is what I want, and this is you know,
this is a good reason we have one tonight because
I are I'm helping.

Speaker 6 (48:26):
Yah.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
Do you say I'm gonna say something to help you? Well,
first of all, I help you by putting you on
We help you by putting you on the radio every week. Secondly,
what I said a few minutes ago is you know what,
I like him and Brady and Craft to just stop
dancing around the fact that they can't stand each other.
And someone's got to say they got to write the
book about what happened. Right, the first person that tells
their story, you always believe them the most. Right, So

(48:48):
how about you call Bob Kraft or Belichick or Brady
whoever you know the most, and say, hey, let's write
this book together, and boom, you have a best seller
and everything looks good for you.

Speaker 4 (48:58):
You kick me and.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
Harmon a couple of bucks, and everybody wins because we
get the stories about Okay, this, all things are so bad.

Speaker 3 (49:05):
Wait a second, I haven't even gotten enough sandwiches out
of you, and I was just go be kicking bucks.
I've been doing I've been doing this show for eighty
seven years. It's a long time free basically, yeah, it's
a long time that I've been doing this show again.

Speaker 4 (49:19):
You signed, You signed.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
Like I got three sandwiches out of you. I'm getting
to get some whiskey out of arm and some some
pizza out of harmony. He's he's a trooper. You like
what I got a donation of gar like the annue
we come through this year.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
You saw, first of all, you signed a five year,
three sandwich deal, and we have the option for a.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
Eighty seven years.

Speaker 4 (49:42):
We have the option of a no sandwich year. We
exercise the option of the no sandwich.

Speaker 6 (49:47):
Year on it.

Speaker 3 (49:48):
NFL free agency in the nineteen seven Okay, it is
worse than that, Okay, because it doesn't even exist. You
guys don't even acknowledge free agency. That's what the NFL
did in the seventies. Free agency. What are you talking about?
Plan B. Let's come up with that idea.

Speaker 5 (50:08):
Oh God, speak of a guy that's really unhappy with
his contract.

Speaker 4 (50:12):
Terry McLaurin telling anybody who listened, he's mad, pransition, but
he walks to thank you.

Speaker 5 (50:17):
But not my first rodeo free agency in the seventies,
it's sandwich gate.

Speaker 4 (50:24):
I'm the Jason Smithzhow do we want to give three
hundred grand to Roy Green? I don't know. I don't know.
That's good s all right?

Speaker 5 (50:32):
So the mclaura does he play on the one final
year of his deal? Do does he get a bump
or does he get traded?

Speaker 3 (50:40):
Okay? Yeah, I don't know what they want. I know
that people talk about mclaurin's well, you know, doesn't run
that grade as that dude gets open. He just gets open.
And there are times where he just carries them because
they're not they're not extremely talented the quarterback because obviously amazing,

(51:02):
but mclaurin's carried them when they've had some ragtag quarterbacks
who don't deserve to be in the league. Now, is
he as good as Roy Green? Good question? Gray Green
hat really truly had his moments for about five years there.
But I'll go with McLaurin right now. And I would
pay him? How much would I pay him? And we're

(51:23):
going top shelf for me on like, do we think
he's better than Brandon Hyuk?

Speaker 6 (51:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (51:29):
Does he get Garrett Wilson money?

Speaker 3 (51:32):
Not quite Garrett Wilson's Garrett Wilson is on a slightly
different plateau in terms of where I think he can
get to if he didn't play for the Jets.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
Hey, he's the modern day Tim Brown. Okay, stop all
those crap tastic quarterbacks he's played with, and still he's
averaging ninety receptions a year of the first three years.
He's the Tim Brown of twenty twenty five.

Speaker 3 (51:55):
Yes, and he's being held back for one reason he
plays for the Jets.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
Circle.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
Where am I wrong? Where am I wrong? Point any
hole in what I just said?

Speaker 4 (52:06):
Okay, how can you do? Hold back?

Speaker 3 (52:07):
He direct its accurate.

Speaker 4 (52:09):
He just signed a huge extension. No, no, no, no, no,
he's still catching one hundred pass a year.

Speaker 3 (52:13):
Radio guy. Listen to me.

Speaker 10 (52:15):
I'm radio guy as I try and talk over you,
because I'm going to make some fun of BS points
because I practice this all the time and I'm a
Jets fan, so I'm well trained in having to BS
my way through any kind of point to justify why
I still love this team that has let me down
for my entire lifetime. That's what's happening here, and that's
what you have to understand, and that's what you have

(52:36):
to accept.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
To just be quiet for a moment. Let it go,
be like Vin Scully. Let the moment just happen.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
I'll do that that It'll give you a chance to
google Roy Green so you can see who he is,
because I know you don't know.

Speaker 4 (52:49):
So that's fine.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
I know Gray Green was a wide receipt. It was
Cardinals who honored his contract in the last year even
though everybody told him in the world to hold out. Yeah,
I know.

Speaker 5 (53:03):
Dangling the next sandwich in front of a parent, you
wander that next.

Speaker 3 (53:09):
Sandwich, I'm getting a whole belly. I'm just telling you that.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
That's like a that's a doughnut on the rope in
front of a treadmill. That's what we're doing right now.
That sandwich is right in front of you.

Speaker 9 (53:26):
All of a sudden, sandwich. It's unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (53:35):
Now I need you to admit.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
I need you to admit the Jets have done the
right thing and are acting like I'm doing with what
they've done with Garrett Wilson and Sauce Gardner this week,
because I know you can't fake your way by saying no,
they haven't, because they have. And the tear comes to
my eye because the Jets are acting like a big
boy franchise.

Speaker 9 (53:58):
They take players.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
Yeah, they paid two players who were twenty four years
old a year before they had to pay them. This
is the Jets we're talking about. They don't do things
like this. They pay guys more money when they're too old,
and then they have to recoup it and we still
don't make the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (54:13):
This is like what good teams do.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
Hey, we're gonna lock up our core guys who we're
twenty four years old a year before they would cost
even more money. Okay, we're gonna do this. This is
what teams do, just not my team. So I need
you to have some I'll respect you your job. I'll
even extend you for one year and one sandwich and
you you because if you you sit here and you
acknowledge mult.

Speaker 3 (54:35):
Right, we've almost gotten the nineteen eighty four in Cree agency.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
Oh by the way, nineteen eighty four Roy Green's best
year fifte hundred yards receiving.

Speaker 3 (54:46):
Okay, okay, so I will like knowledge that they have
done well by their two best players and lost them up. Now,
have the Jets had ideas like this before that didn't quite? Yeah?
I mean it's when they you know, they touched lose
a left tackle that they have for years and years

(55:06):
and years. The britishop Ferguson when they have Ferguson, and
then they drafted Darrell Rivas the next year, right and
and Mike Tannonbom came up with a really great idea
that I don't want both of these guys to come
up as free agents in the same year. So I'm
going to make I'm not gonna I'm going to make

(55:27):
Darrel Rivis hold out for a six year deal instead
of a five year deal and set the table for
the wildest negotiation to ever play out over the next
seven years because you just didn't do a standard five
year deal and think, you know what, they're both rookies.
I can deal with this in five years. Maybe, Yeah,

(55:50):
like that was the advanced I think so based on
history of the Jets and how they've done business. Yeah,
let's say this is this is a solid SAT move
for them. It's advanced thinking. But it's not the first
time that they're undone advanced thinking, and somehow, some way,
because they are the Jets, it will blow up in
their face.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
But you like the move and you admit that it's
a really good move. I need, right there, so I need,
so I need.

Speaker 6 (56:18):
I got it.

Speaker 3 (56:18):
I got it.

Speaker 6 (56:19):
I got it.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
You got it on tape, I got I got it
on tape.

Speaker 3 (56:22):
Okay, yeah, I admit that you did the most amazing
thing ever wonsible and your best players.

Speaker 4 (56:30):
All right, now, I know you a sandwich.

Speaker 3 (56:31):
That's I will say, as compared to what they went
through with three, that it was their best player time. Yes,
this is an advancement from that. I'll give you that.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
So we exercised your option on a no sandwich year
this year, but I'll exercise the one sandwich.

Speaker 4 (56:49):
Year next year.

Speaker 3 (56:50):
When did we have an option?

Speaker 4 (56:52):
Twenty twenty five is a no sandwich year? Twenty twenty
six is a sandwich here.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
I've never agreed to any options. No, I didn't have
no it is I was. I was playing out the contract.
No no, No, I played it out. I played it out.
I was Roy Green.

Speaker 4 (57:07):
No, we checked out changing rules after COVID.

Speaker 3 (57:10):
No. I am coming off a fifteen hundred yard years
all right, I will just staying on this show.

Speaker 4 (57:17):
Sometimes some players get a signing bonus.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
I will give you the bite of a Langer's Deli
sandwich next time. I see you as a bit of
your signing bonus, but your full sandwich is paid next year.

Speaker 3 (57:27):
What are we talking about, like going to Jerry's or
something like that.

Speaker 4 (57:30):
Well, langers are arts. Wherever you want to go, I'll
find I'll let you get the sand let me do.

Speaker 3 (57:34):
We do arts and nothing else. We are loyal to
hard Okay, Studio city Baby, all right, right, the home
land right there on Ventura Boulevard. Okay, that's where it belongs.
That it's where it's always belongs, right there, Art Deli
on Ventura Boulevard. Don't ever forget that.

Speaker 4 (57:54):
He's on Twitter at Jason Cole sixty two. That is
at Jason Pole sixty two.

Speaker 3 (57:59):
Rich Man the Voter.

Speaker 4 (58:02):
Take it easybody. We'll talk to you by Jacole.

Speaker 1 (58:07):
Wow Fox Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with my
best friend Mike Harmon. Yep, time now to find out
what's trending in the wide world of Sportsman Guy has
been called the Billy Idol of Fox Sports Radio because
in the eighties he had real spikey blonde hair.

Speaker 4 (58:24):
It's Martin Weiss.

Speaker 8 (58:25):
Ironically enough, the only song we're trying to learn on
guitar was like the intro in the movie Billy idol
is the guy that walks Adam Tadler.

Speaker 6 (58:32):
In there and says, you know, in first class, they
do whatever they want.

Speaker 4 (58:35):
Yep.

Speaker 6 (58:36):
So that was actually kind of fitting.

Speaker 4 (58:38):
Kind of weird out all ties together, and.

Speaker 6 (58:40):
It, I know, sometimes it's almost like they did it
on purpose.

Speaker 8 (58:43):
I looked up this Roy greenfella, fantastic, very interesting young man.
In a game in college at Henderson State University in
the Arkansaw Intercollegiate Conference, he once scored three touchdowns not
on offense, a ninety yard kick returned, sixty five yard return,
and a forty yard interception return.

Speaker 4 (59:02):
Fam threw a football over the mountains.

Speaker 6 (59:05):
I'm not done, buddy.

Speaker 8 (59:06):
In nineteen eighty one, while a normal player will participate
in about sixty to seventy snaps per game, wore a
green one hundred and eight eat that Travis Hunter. He
played offense, defense and four on special teams. And my
man had two nicknames, the Green Machine in college and
the jet Stream in the pros Now most guys can't
get one.

Speaker 4 (59:26):
No, now he's got.

Speaker 5 (59:27):
You can run that Travis Hunter line from the end
of Take that Travis Hunt right.

Speaker 6 (59:32):
The tame is joke of the night.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
Very nice yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 8 (59:42):
Agent defensive Vod Miller will enjoy the Commanders that are
reported one year deal. He posted a picture of Champ
Bailey in a Washing uniform on his Instagram page earlier.
One will be All Star Game drew seventy two point
seven seventy two million b a pretty big number.

Speaker 4 (59:58):
Seven two big.

Speaker 8 (01:00:00):
Difference viewers on Fox, but still still like the best
rated All Star game of all four sports.

Speaker 6 (01:00:07):
That's seven point two, so it was a good watch.

Speaker 8 (01:00:10):
Three time NBA Allstar Bradley Beial agreed to a contract
by with the Suns. He plans to join the Clippers
on a two year, eleven million dollar deal with a
player option. The Spurs shutting down Dylan Harper for the
remainder of Summer League. The Fever beat I'm sorry. The
Liberty beat the Fever in ninety eight to seventy seven.
Browna Stewart with a twenty four point eleven rebound double double.
Fever had ruled out kateon Leclark before the game with

(01:00:31):
right groin pain in her status for All Star Weekend
not yet been confirmed. Agel Wilson with a thirty seven
point ten rebound double doubles the Aces beat the Wings
ninety to eighty six wins in the WNBA for the Dream,
the Lynx and the Storm as they head.

Speaker 6 (01:00:46):
Towards their All Star break.

Speaker 8 (01:00:48):
The Broncos have signed their first round pick, quarterback joh
A Baron to his rookie deal that leaves the Bengals
seventeenth overrow pick Sjamar Stewart the only unsigned first round
pick for Maples Draft Chargers. Naji Harris will likely be
in training camp with a non football injury list after
sustaining an eye injury during the fourth of July firework mishap. Now,
I do have a question for you guys that are

(01:01:08):
taking back to you. Sure there have been two notable,
very expensive buy out people on this in this free
agent you know cycle here with DeAndre Ayton and Los
Angeles and Bradley Beal both coming to Los Angeles. How
do both people who get essentially laid off when they said.

Speaker 6 (01:01:29):
We'd rather pay you to go somewhere else. How do
both of those guys get player options? But how do
both of.

Speaker 8 (01:01:36):
Those guys get player options on their new teams? I
just don't understand it. It's just, you know, maybe that
was I'm sorry, maybe less of a question, more of event,
but anyway back to.

Speaker 4 (01:01:45):
You there it is, you're Roy Green archivist Martin.

Speaker 5 (01:01:49):
Nicely done, and he asked the question of that one
or two guys that had a no trade gun close
contract