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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Greetings and welcome in.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
Excited to be with you here, it's Fox Sports Radio
Mike Carmon alongside the Stinking Genius himself in for Jason Smith.
We got word yesterday in the way of a tweet
that Smith had made his way safely to the Greater
Detroit area and how he announced his arrival the fact
that he was at a white castle at twelve fifteen.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
In the morning.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
There you go, one a half hour after landing in
the Greater Detroit area. One of the only people I've
ever known to vacation in Detroit particularly well, I guess
it's summertime. Normally he goes holiday holiday holiday visiting there.
Why would you leave the beach for Detroit? But you
know what, summertime. Perhaps there's a little more maybe he's

(01:16):
gonna go take in a Tiger's game.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
I don't really care at How about a fresco where
you find him? If you want to check in there
at Stink and Genius one is Arnie find me over
at Swollen Dome. Lots going on in the greater sporting world.
I was really getting ready to send a bunch of
really nasty eye, kind of funny text to my mom,
you know, Cubs fan, even though she still has now
adopted the raise as another part of her cheering section.

(01:42):
Hey it is what it is. White Sox were absolutely
bludgeoning the Cubs, and it's like, ay, we got to
shut out going into the seventh and all of a
sudden a three run barrage. And it's not quite as
fun once they get a crooked number up there, but
we'll celebrate it as we will over the course of
the show.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
We got so much going on.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
We got the NFLPA with more chaos, just as we predicted.
The other day, I saw a couple of movies one
very late night as Happy Gilmour two came out, and
then I'm a Fantastic four nerd. I started a new
program outside of our Sports World, Arnie. So we'll tease

(02:23):
that ahead where people can interact socially. There we got
linn O MESSI a messy, messy situation. And then we've
got a strike. And no it's not the WNBA, it's
not Major League Baseball. No, it's the concession workers at
Fenway Park as the Dodgers come in for a big

(02:45):
series this weekend.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Dodgers take the opener five to two.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
Walker Buehler gets his ring before the game and everything else,
but they had striking workers all around the facility. I
don't buy food walking the picket line. You've got the
Ara mark, the concession vendor fighting with their union, and
the Red Sox going, hey, everything, we can tell you

(03:11):
it's not us, it's not on us, Bernie Sanders chiming
in respect the picket line the union posted.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
We know ticks are expensive.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
We're not asking to stay away from the home games,
but we're asking you not to buy concessions. No purchase
of pretzels, pickles or peanuts. How many of those folks
then set up stands outside and still made some money,
Like you know those mobile hot dog carts that are
everywhere here in Los Angeles.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
Yeah, that looked like a serious and by the way, hello,
how are you my?

Speaker 2 (03:40):
I'm great body. What's going on?

Speaker 5 (03:41):
Well?

Speaker 3 (03:42):
I mean we got four hours of pleasantrieswering me nine
thousand times.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
We had four hours. I think that's going to wrap
up the show. So I'll beat to you next week.
Thank you for by the way you threw me off.
I didn't know you were driving tonight, so but that's okay.
You'll never learn how to drive and let you do it.
So I'm gonna let you go ahead and do that.
It's good to speak to ice.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
It's good to have a you know, a kindred smart
ass in the chair. You and I go way back.
I'm sorry, Arnie Spaniard. Do we have any trumpets or
anything for his arrival that we want to roll out
of Red Cardiff?

Speaker 4 (04:17):
But I'm like, he's got to get to be right.
I mean we're I think this is our three now.
I just had dinner.

Speaker 6 (04:24):
Like Steve Singer.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
Okay, there you go, his Royal Highness in side you
Sunday night.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
It's alongside Chris Blank.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
He and I go back a long way and these
sporting highways in my ways. He's he's honored to be
in with me tonight. It's our guy Arnie Spaniards.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Fire on the Man all night long. We've been hearing
that for weeks.

Speaker 6 (04:51):
That's gonna drive me crazy.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
He's been buying that. That's got nothing to do with
you be on this show.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
No, I know it's it's it's driving me battye.

Speaker 6 (05:00):
And it's only been twice right now.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
It's one of.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
The great drops that you've given us. There are many
I saw.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
I saw a Grateful Dead uh cover band my friend
had not my friend. Some lady I met invited me
to our house.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
To waver band. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
You gotta bet you want to get a stand up
bass player as you try to tell these stories, Beth,
I hear you call me.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
Yeah exactly this. This lady called my name in the
parking lot. I didn't know who she was, but she's like, hey,
you should come to our party. We're having a cover band.
It's Grateful Dead. So I told my wife and we
just kind of, you know, crashed. We didn't know anybody there,
but it was a good.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
Did you throw the keys in the right bucket or what? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (05:43):
Yeah, there you go, there you go.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
You gotta be a certain age. You go look that
up on the exactly and your inner wes and what
I'm talking about it.

Speaker 4 (05:51):
But yeah, hey, what's going on? I saw you like
thirty six topics today. What that's like an all time record?
Are we going to get to every one of them?

Speaker 3 (05:59):
I don't know, because a bunch of them are actually
a little dated in that I've been doing shows all week.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
No, no, no. The point is we're pretty good.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
I think between Frostburg Alex when when Steve's in with
us last night, Dan Byer, Moncy Belano send with us
that we grab what's current and new, which means it
doesn't get to just date and see which way the.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
We to that point? Seven of them we already did.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
There's a couple that I'm I like our license with
the FCC. We know one of the principles and in
some of the notes that you sent me is very litigious.
Resides here in Los Angeles, doesn't show up when he
says he's supposed.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
To show up at a pizza place.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
May or may not be trying to force his way
out despite picking up a fifty two point six million
dollar player option. By declining it would have written made
his life a lot easier, but instead it's look at me,
look at me, Hey, hey, look at me like I'm
going straight things and ten things I hate about you
say plenty of movie references over the course of the night,

(07:06):
but you know, the Lebron James stuff. It's fun to
kind of look at and wave at.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
I mean, we can talk about the.

Speaker 6 (07:15):
Team today today.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
It's changed actually today because Jeff Tigue walked it back.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
No, you can't walk that back. Well, what, No, you can't.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
You can't under you might you might have gotten threat
of legal recourse. So you will issue a public apology
and and walk.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
It back and like that had that siren truck.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
If it's true, you can't sue, right, I mean, that's
that's a pretty good defense, as I thought.

Speaker 6 (07:43):
I think that's a good defense.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
Well for those unaware Jeff Tigue implying that miss time
by Lebron James in the past. I mean, since you
know you're walking it there, we'll we'll go through it, uh,
implying shenanigans. Uh in terms of availability and in terms
of readiness to play and maybe supplements.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
How do you look that?

Speaker 3 (08:04):
We'll dance around it that way. But and then immediately
within twenty four hours after backlash, and we have seen
litigiousness on the part of Clutch Sports and Labron James
that suddenly, oh, I you know, I was just speaking.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Off the cuff. No, no, no, you knew exactly what the
hell you were doing.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
And it was only when you got the call note,
multiple notes, maybe a courier that showed up with a
you know, a nice Manila envelope of stuff, that suddenly
you're walking it back.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
So yeah, you know, got that there.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
Whether you want to believe stuff or not, right, I mean,
that's up to you the listening audience. You're an intelligent
group of people, and I'm not going to try to
swell you one way or another, Arnie. That's not what
we're here to do. In the end, I enjoy what's
in between the white lines. History will decide the rest
of it.

Speaker 4 (08:53):
I don't care to be honest with you. And I'm
talking about all athletes. I'm not just talking about what
supplements they're using, what they're putting in their body, what
they're trying to do to make themselves healthier, trying to
overcome and get back from some injury, a steroid, whatever
it is, whatever doctor says, If the doctor says Hey,

(09:14):
this is gonna make you heal faster. They put their
bodies through so much, Mike, and I don't. And I'll
speak for America, how about that. I don't think Americans
can care anymore. I don't think anybody sits back right now,
and go look at that guy. He's a running back.
He's gotta be on steroids. Or look at that baseball player.
Look got what he home runs he has, he's got

(09:36):
to be on something. Nobody cares, Nobody thinks about it anymore.

Speaker 6 (09:40):
Mike, It's not important.

Speaker 4 (09:42):
And like I said, if you're gonna put your body
through that much stuff, you deserve to go ahead and
heal as fast as possible to get back to the field,
and whatever doctor says, do it. Then it's not like you're,
you know, putting you should put bad things.

Speaker 6 (09:57):
In your body.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
These are all healthy things and good things to make
key heals. So I just don't think people care anymore.
That's why maybe he's walking it back. Maybe it's because
he could get sued. But I'm on the Bron's side
on this. I don't think anybody cares what he You know,
he should do whatever it is good for his body, all.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
Right, So he's hijacked the show once. Keep that score
count over there to saga. As we get through the night,
we'll have the we'll ring the bell each and every time.
I wanted to talk about labor strife, instead we go
down this twisted road. But no, I mean yesterday, look,
we commemorated the life and life and times wrestling in

(10:37):
particular and Master Thespian that of Hulk Hogan. Tonight they
did the big ten bell salute his part of SmackDown.
But to that point, plenty of stuff back in the
day with Hogan uh and substances which mayor you know,
not just training and saying your prayers and eating your vitamins,
but a big thing, and there's plenty of documentaries on

(10:57):
it through it all in the ends, the that bridge
between sports and entertainment and trying to figure out where
the lines are. And certainly we've seen we'll commemorate the
Hall of Fame inductions this week and every year it
becomes the same question of all right, you leave certain
people out, and then you've got the other guys who

(11:17):
might have been better to the media or maybe had
a better reputation, weren't a jerk and dismissive of some
questions in the clubhouse. They're the ones that get left out.
And then you've got a couple of other guys that
are like, well maybe, but hey, they're in, and you
know they get voted in. And I think you all
immediately as I'm saying that you got one, two, maybe

(11:38):
eight names of the last twenty years that suddenly pop
into your brain. But it's all to your point, aren't
you in the end, if it's going to get a
player back on the field and our all stars are
there and available, something we complain about ad nauseum, particularly
during the NBA season, that you know there is something
to be said for what availability is the best ability

(12:02):
that our audience cares. Do you think our people think
in general asull and no, I think I think there is.
I think there is to a point, right, you know,
the sense of fair play, truth, justice in the American
way and all that. I'm watching Superman in between all
my baseball games here. But all of that to say
that you're you're trying to figure out, you know, the

(12:26):
quote level playing field, which, let's face it, from day one,
as soon as you put on a pair of cleats,
grab a bat, whatever. Look science and genealogy is you're
already having problems there.

Speaker 6 (12:41):
There's no correlation.

Speaker 4 (12:43):
Yeah, there's no correlation between you know, taking a steroid
and saying that you could hit more home runs. Otherwise
everybody would be doing it, and a lot of people
were doing it. I just think now people just want
to see their favorite athletes, They want to see big
time athletes. The way to do that is, you know,
just keep yourself health. That's tough, man. You see what
these do football players go through. You've used to what's

(13:05):
like football, nobody ever cared.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
Occasionally you'd have to nab somebody who didn't follow the protocol,
the calendar, and they would get popped or occasionally the
wrong thing at the wrong time, and you'd have, you know,
the sacrificial lamb. But I mean football, You know, I
think we've all just kind of shrugged and laughed at

(13:27):
that for a long time.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
I cast us, why do you think we stopped texting testing?

Speaker 4 (13:31):
Why do you think we stopped testing from marijuana in
the NBA and in all sports?

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Huh?

Speaker 3 (13:35):
Well, it also got legalized in the vast majority of states,
so you know, to that end, it became a wait,
this is helping guys fight through their pains and issues.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Yeah, let's go.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
So yeah, not the topic I was planning to start with.
I was celebrating the great American pastime in another way.
But well we we roped it back in with some
Hall of fame and with some of the chaos, uh
and rumor conjecture speculation. Uh, so you ended up getting
that in shoehorning that topic into the show. So take

(14:09):
the w there, it's your last one of the nights.
Put you unnoticed, now, paal.

Speaker 6 (14:14):
Okay, there you go.

Speaker 4 (14:15):
I won't steer us into a ditch anymore.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
And I'm watching the White Sox and the Cubs. One
of the great innovations of our time. Uh, the White
Sox wearing what looked like bulls uniforms?

Speaker 6 (14:29):
Is that on the MLB network? Is that what you're
watching it on?

Speaker 3 (14:32):
Mmm?

Speaker 5 (14:33):
No?

Speaker 3 (14:33):
I think I think this one's just your normal. There
is the Apple Friday game? Was I think the Phillies tonight?
Jay got that one going for you, but which you
know again, people complain, cough up a buck or don't watch.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
Well, it's upon a time you got like three games
a week?

Speaker 6 (14:48):
Is that what it got?

Speaker 2 (14:49):
The hell up?

Speaker 3 (14:50):
Is that what it cast? How much does it cost
from I don't even know. Apple is like one hundred
bucks a year? Okay, Apple plus and you get and
you get shrinking. Yeah, well I mean that that is true.
Your bunny ears thing. Is it going to work?

Speaker 2 (15:03):
You know?

Speaker 3 (15:04):
It's part of the larger move topic. I was trying
trying to get to and tease with you. Here is
Arnie's on the move. So we're going to try to
help his sports life along the way. Hashtag fire on
the mountain at Fox Sports Radio, at stinking Genius one.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
AT's what we're doing for that as we try to
navigate that.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
But no, the White Sox went and they they found
a nice hybrid of some of their their colors and logos.
Add to the bulls with the black and the red,
and you come up with something that.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
Looks pretty pretty good.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
They also have a promotion that I saw on ad
for during this game White Sox twelve three lead here
in the eighth.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
Wedding in a minute, like an old Bill Veck promotions.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
So you can apply to get your marriage done on
the mound in a minute.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
So change in a game.

Speaker 6 (15:56):
That's a total Bill Veck thig.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
Well it screams you when it screams our guy Andy
Furman back there in Cincinnati. We love some of the
stuff Andy used to do at the right strat All right,
we'll get back into strikes and some of the chaos
going around our world because we also reached an agreement
with a long standing holdout.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
See Mike Brown might.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
Have sounded crazy, but he kind of got what he wanted,
didn't he. Yeah, we'll get to that as we continue.
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Speaker 6 (17:40):
Well you know what it's called over promise.

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Speaker 3 (18:22):
Welcome back in Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith's show with Me,
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Speaker 2 (18:30):
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Speaker 3 (18:33):
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Speaker 3 (18:45):
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Speaker 2 (19:29):
We'll get to Arnie's Dolphins because he's got to have
his say about the.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
Slap fight and trying to you know, get guys you
know you feel.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
Can we get you comfortable here?

Speaker 3 (19:38):
Let's do some icebreaker sessions here to and Tyreek not
like you haven't played together for a couple of years.

Speaker 6 (19:44):
I don't know what that's all about, to be honest,
what's going on?

Speaker 7 (19:46):
Then?

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Well, Tyreek Hill was saying, I'm out of here and
I want to trade. What do you mean? What do
you you remember that?

Speaker 3 (19:53):
But finally, the last of the first round to holdouts
has signed his d earlier this week with Lega. The
quote from Mike Brown and and folks heard that in
all sorts of different ways. To me, I tried to
pull back and go to business pragmatism of all, right,
if I am a business owner and I have a
guy who's unavailable to me, why should I still have

(20:15):
to guarantee a bunch of money? Seems kind of logical. Well,
today they found common ground. Stewart signs the deal that
includes said language. I would void future guarantees if he's
unavailable and breaks the terms of the contract and what's
been laid out in the CBA.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Here's a new quote.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
But what happens is he gets himself an extra half
a million dollars earlier in the process. And I think,
you know, commerheads prevail of all right, maybe it's it's a.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
Little uncomfortable to have those conversations.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
Jerry Jones had, Hey, if I'm signing a guy, how
do I know he not doesn't get hit by a bus.
So both guys just decided, well, you're gonna take that road.
I'm gonna take this road, and we'll meet where we meet.
But the deal that reaches out is that the Bengals
adjust the signing bonus payout, giving him an extra five
hundred thousand of his signing bonus now in exchange for

(21:13):
having that new language, which probably becomes more boiler plate
once it's enacted, And other teams will do the same again,
trying to make sure you have protections, and it's not
it's unfortunate that you have a guy that has to
become the poster boy, poster child, whatever term the player
that this gets identified with. But it's language that from

(21:35):
a again, business pragmatism seems to make sense.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
And stay out of trouble, you get your money.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
But well, you know what exactly the stay out of
trouble me And I'm gonna ask you that. First of all,
it's a full four year, fully guaranteed. Like what would
people say, just don't go to jail, Just don't go
to jail, and you'll be fined. So let me get
let me just get this straight. Mike Carmon leaves his house,
You forget your walk because you're running to the seven eleven.
You get to the seven eleven, you get pulled over.

(22:03):
You can't identify yourself because you don't have your wallet. Well,
if you can't identify yourself, you automatically get put in
the handcuffs. Right, you gotta go to you gotta go
to the local prefraw.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
Maybe I've I got a syrup ee tongue and then
you know, I can probably talk my way.

Speaker 4 (22:18):
You're not talking anything out.

Speaker 6 (22:20):
You're going to jail. Next thing you know.

Speaker 4 (22:22):
You're in the local precinct just because you forgot your
wallet and you're on the seven eleven. I know it
doesn't sound like a big deal, but does that mean
you could no and void a contract because you semi
got arrested.

Speaker 6 (22:33):
Or you got to take it in.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (22:35):
It's a little too much, and I think what the
Bengans were asking was just a little egregious. I'm glad
he got his deal. I'm glad he got the extra
half million. I'm got to get the four year guaranteed.
Remember when back in football, back in the day, forget
about guaranteeing anything, right, you remember the day.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
I mean that that is a very substantive change these
last couple of years, the size of guaranteed money. We're
talking about the top end players in the league, but
certainly the slotting system for rookies and coming in the
fact that you've only got one guy who isn't signed
in the second round and guess what, he's got legal
problems right right, So there you go in terms of

(23:16):
these processes. But certainly there are plenty of instances, and
we'll get to the union stuff next hour sometime. With
all the chaos ensuing there, any grievances, etc. They have
enough people I mean, they've got plenty of lawyers on command,
but anybody in leadership that's actually going to be able
to fight on their behalfs no, it's going to get
passed to the legal room completely because you've got all

(23:39):
of this chaos. But go back to Christian Wilkins in
the Raiders, right, he didn't want to have another surgery.
So what did Pete Carroll do? What Pete Carroll does,
All right, let's talk about this. You've got a new
front office, and said, all right, if he's not going
to go through this process and this is the course
of action, we'll fight about it. Eventually he'll probably get

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some more of that. I was going to say point
two million dollars, but I.

Speaker 4 (24:03):
Don't think he's not going to get any money. If
you think that you've heard the last of this year,
no yourself.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
But it's also the type of thing where the teams
are looking to protect themselves, and in this case, he
missed all but five games a year ago, was probably
not going to be available anytime soon here, so it
becomes a hey, it's a sunk cost. Let's move on
and push into the next sphere and pay out what

(24:30):
we need to and Eventually they'll go to an arbiter
and they'll they'll figure it out. But in the interim,
I mean, that's along the lines of what we're talking
about here with Stuart. It's just rarity. When you're starting
to get into the language of a rookie contract, those
have usually been pretty boilerplate. Sign on the dotted line.
Here's where that the guy ahead of you, you know,

(24:50):
signed for. Here's what the two guys behind you signed for.
And we find ourselves somewhere nicely in the middle there.
In his case, now it became a little bit of
fun over language. And I think if it was a
team that wasn't the Bengals, it might have been met
much differently.

Speaker 4 (25:06):
Right and by the way, taking a step backwards and
tell me you wouldn't if you know, if you're a fan,
if you can give this guy a shot or a
pill or something to get back and get over his
injuries like a steroid, you know, would anybody be against it.
There wouldn't be anybody against it. They'd say, fine, let's
do it. Let's get this guy back out there. Whether
you're a fan of his or not. I just want

(25:27):
to go in and throw that back in there because
that ties into what we're talking about in the first segment.
But you're right, look at least he got his four
year guaranteed. I'm happy about that. You know, sometimes I
think these contract negotiations is really about you know, ego
and the owners thinking that Noyes.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
You've worked in media all these years and negotiated how
many contracts an ego?

Speaker 4 (25:49):
Yes, you know some of them. I'll never forget, Mike,
some of them to this day. To this day, I
hold a grudge. I remember battling an owner of one
of the networks, just him and I going at it,
and it still scars me today, to be honest with you,
because we didn't have agents back then, not for radio personalities.

(26:11):
We were doing the best weekend and you know, to
this day those negotiation and I'm not really much of
a guy that you know, stands by I'll cave in
on the extra money or something. But this guy just
got me going. And I can understand. You know, if
you don't have representation, it's got to suck. But I'm
glad at least he got his four year guaranteed.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
To be well, the big thing, right when you get
to the representation and look I'll.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
Do the full disclosure.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
I don't have one, and I've certainly had plenty of
conversations where I remember phrases that have been thrown in
my general direction. And those folks out there know who
they are. It's the kind of area you smile and
you have to make your decision of you know what
you value and when you're going to pull out the proverbial.
Once upon a time in Hollywood, flamethrower like Leo DiCaprio

(27:00):
said things those most of.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
The time, it's most of the time.

Speaker 6 (27:03):
It's not.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
It's not what you want to do.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
Now.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
What the agent's job is.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
They're the one that softened the message, right, they get
the harsh treatment, they get the this is what your
client isn't doing quite as well as maybe you think
they are in terms of the number you're asking for.
And then you push from there when you're you're talking
about the the begles and and again, Mike Brown might
have raise his hand on on conference calls or at
the local club as they're taking a you know, it's

(27:30):
taking a steam and just said, well, everybody hates me anyway,
so I'll be the old guy, right. I mean, look,
he's already been accused of everything, and I use the
term frugal, uh, you know, but being cheap and what
he's done through the years running that organization, even though
he's paid. Now the wide receivers and now stupid exist

(27:53):
but because but because of the age of a guy
that once upon a time guarant heed money didn't exist
at all. Right, right, all right, here's your signing bonus
when you first sign your deal.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
That's it. Uh. And then you know all.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
The logistics and hurdles to get have people try to fight.
I mean, how many times did Al Davis have coaches
suing him because he fired and you want to cut
a check? Right, But for players now it's a different world.
You've got more power going back to college and all
the way through to where those guarantees. Even for folks
coming into the league now you don't get the Sam
Bradford forty million dollar check like you did once upon

(28:31):
a time that everybody fought and in the veterans, you know,
got some more power in that regard. But in terms
of these signing bonuses, uh, and guarantees as a higher
percentage of the contracts, I'm sure owners that have.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Been around a while they're not too keen on that.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
So wherever they can still try to rest some level
of power, they're going to do it.

Speaker 4 (28:53):
You know, I know everything's slotted now, but I'm just
interested now that college outletes get nil. So they're not
I mean, into the at least the good players, the
first round players are not coming into the NFL absolutely broke.
They're coming in with millions of dollars. Perhaps there, you
know what I mean, Mike, I'm wondering if that helps
the NFL and negotiations where these guys are not so

(29:14):
desperate for money that.

Speaker 6 (29:16):
They're like, Okay, you.

Speaker 4 (29:17):
Know, we don't care about this year being guaranteed or
you know this extra bone.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
No, I think it absolutely works the other way.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
Oh well, because as a group, assuming they want to
go down this path and owing back to the story that.

Speaker 6 (29:31):
They won't rumble, they won't trumble.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
Right because they then they can fight about language like
this perhaps a little bit more.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
If teams try to enact this as a group, maybe
as a group they go, hey, you know what I
can I can wait this out and we can fight
this a little more.

Speaker 6 (29:47):
Mike.

Speaker 4 (29:48):
If if if I want a five year guaranteed, and
they said, we'll give you a four year if we're
separated by twenty thousand. I'm like, ah, you know, I
got money from the nil. I'm okay, I'll be fine.
I'm thinking about it the other way. You may be right,
but I have the other way.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
It thinks, Well, it's how you approach it, though, right,
is it the all right, I'm a year faster towards
free agency, right in your case, right, if it's four
years versus five. But you know, if it's guaranteed money,
then I may want that fifth year, particularly if I'm
at a position where the attrition, like a running back
or such is pretty high.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
But as a group, perhaps this is where you have,
you know.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
One of the few times where you'd have a group
of players truly unified. Because what we have with the PA,
which is part of the substantive problems that they have,
is the large strata between a sixty million dollars a
year quarterback and you know, half of your roster that's
making near to nothing the back end. Well, but you
know what I mean, like where where that you have

(30:47):
such a divide that you're not fighting for the same.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
Things, right, right?

Speaker 3 (30:53):
The people that project to a fifteen year career versus
we see that tail it is very long.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
We can do that whole average three and a half
year nonsense that people love to do.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
The reality is so many guys passed through get a
cup of coffee.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
What do they get for their efforts?

Speaker 3 (31:10):
Well, they get a couple of nice checks maybe along
the way, maybe they get to bounce around a little bit,
and they collect a couple of helmets and jerseys. Beyond that,
they're not guaranteed a whole lot of any Well, no,
they at.

Speaker 4 (31:21):
Least they get healthcare. Now you can remember the day
where they wouldn't even get healthcare. They were they were
fighting for that.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
They're still fighting for a lot of that.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
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Speaker 3 (31:52):
Here with everything across the sporting landscape, including that resplendent
White Sox squad with the Titan uniforms, is our guy,
Steve Desager.

Speaker 9 (32:03):
And my goodness, it was eleven nothing White Sox over
the Cubs. Final score is twelve five against the Cubs,
and it was All Star show to I min Augas
seven and three on the mound now seven and four
for the Cubs. He pitched three innings, allowed the first
seven runs, twelve hits, three home runs. Meanwhile, there's a
guy on the A's by himself. He has three home

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runs tonight, rookie Nick Kurtz, and the A's lead eleven
to two at Houston going to the bottom of the eighth.
Houston is the first place team in the AOS five
games over the Mariners. But Kurtz, in his first sixty
six career games, has forty two extra base hits. Wow,
tied for second old time with Ted Williams. Joe DiMaggio

(32:45):
number one in great starts on that list. Also in progress,
Rangers four to one over the Braves in the bottom
of the eighth. Angels lead Seattle in the fourth two
to one, and the Mets are out to a two
to one lead at the Giants. Everything else is final.
Cleveland at Kansas City rained out doubleheader on Saturday. Minnesota
won nothing winners against Washington, each team had just three hits.

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Arizona won nothing at Pittsburgh in eleven innings. The Pirates
offense went one for thirty three. In fact, the Diamondbacks,
according to statsing the only major league team in the
modern era, to win a game one nothing in eleven
innings or more while allowing only one.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
Hit or less.

Speaker 9 (33:25):
Miami beat Milwaukee five to one today. Philadelphia got two
more homers from Kyle Schwarber. He has thirty six. Phillies
won at the Yankees twelve to five. Colorado gave up
four early solo homers at Baltimore and still beat the
Orioles six to five. Wins for Toronto and Cincinnati. Saint
Louis shut out the Padres three nothing, and the Dodgers
won five to two at Boston. Taoscar Hernandez a home

(33:48):
run and three RBIs. Dodger alfielder Mookie bets Ex of
Boston was out for personal reasons. The Dodgers in the NLS,
now six games up on the Padres. The Bengals did
sign first round pass rusher Shamar Stewart. Vikings wide receiver
Justin Jefferson will miss part of camp with the strain
hamstring said.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
To be mild.

Speaker 9 (34:07):
The Falcon side wide receiver DJ Shark Atlanta wide out
Darnell Moody will miss a few weeks with a bad shoulder.
Quarterback Justin Fields, now with the Jets, did not practice
today due to a dislocated toe. Browns linebacker Jordan Hicks retired,
and at least one hundred NFL players face fines for
scalping their tickets to the last Super Bowl, according to ESPN.

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In the WNBA. Among the three games, Minnesota won again
the Links twenty two to four. Undefeated. At home, they
beat Las Vegas one oh nine seventy eight and at
New York Sabrinaganescu twenty nine points in a liberty win
against Phoenix eighty nine to seventy six.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
Final notes.

Speaker 9 (34:44):
MLS Miami's Leono Messi was suspended one game Tomorrow's for
missing the MLS All Star Game last Wednesday, as was
teammate Jordi Alba. Back to you, we're gonna stay with that.
When a league can't get out of its own way,
the team which belongs to the league says, no, we
told them to take the time off. You're scheduling us

(35:05):
for so many games.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
Immediacy we talk about with the WNBA all the time
and the newness of it all.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
MLS bit around a minute.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
Still don't know how to handle a little bit of
success and positivity. Steve Disager at the News desk, I
would be remiss. The left side strong side Avon Barksdale
from the wire, and of course remember the Titans Wood
Harris throughout the first pitch in that white Sox uniform.
So they took strong side and beat the hell out

(35:37):
of the Cups twelve five your final coming up next,
we do turn to the MLS. Yeah, the rare MLS
story because Lionel Messi kind of a big deal and
telling him he's got to take his ball and go
home for a game might be one of the dumbest
things we've heard in sometime. We'll tell you why. Next
Here on Fox he's Arnie in for Jason. I'm Mike
and thanks.

Speaker 5 (35:57):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason In
Smith's Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern,
seven pm Pacific.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
Welcome back and Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith's Show with
Me Mike Harmon.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
No Jason Smith.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
He'll be back mid next week in with me tonight
our body the stinking genius himself, ARN'TI spander? You hear
him Sunday nights alongside Chris playing eight to eleven Pacific
time here on Fox Sports Radio. Yes, as they have
a long standing battle on the airwaves, and you can
hear them bicker.

Speaker 6 (36:29):
Twelve years now, Plank, how about that? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (36:31):
What'd you get them for the anniversary?

Speaker 4 (36:32):
And you know the funny part is, I've never met
Chris Plank, I've never ever ever met him face they Well, it's.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
Good that you both have really put an effort into
forging the next step.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
Of your relationship.

Speaker 6 (36:43):
Thank you, thank you.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
That's pathetic.

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Speaker 3 (37:03):
Chris Plank, He'll be up after us tonight at eleven
o'clock Pacific time. He liked when I said eleven o'clock
Pacific sounded like it was much earlier, as opposed to
you know one o'clock Oklahoma time now. Steve had it
in his news items there, little messy one of the
games all time Great. You want to talk about chaos,

(37:24):
you know, I love my sports cards and collectible. Little
controversy over some of the signatures that have shown up
in product as to you know, whether he or someone
close to him signed some of the stuff.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
But that's neither here or there for this argument.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
It's about the MLS All Star Game and participation thereof Well,
MESSI told by the team, told by Miami. You don't
have to do any of that stuff. Go home, you
and and Jordi Alba, I think you should just take
some time to heal.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
See.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
I got our Darren Waller's song in while I I
was at it. But they've now been suspended for a
game because of their lack of receiving permission or feigning
injury and just saying, you know what, we need a
little time away, a little time in the hectic pace

(38:17):
and the schedule that's been out here. You've got to fatigue,
which has been an issue across the league. We watch guys,
you know, some of their time on field has been cut,
getting substituted for earlier you hit that part of the schedule. Baseball,
it's always hey, the dog days of August, we're suddenly
an extra day off here during a challenging portion of

(38:39):
the schedule where you don't have the scheduled day off
and you don't necessarily get the travel day. Sometimes that
suddenly it becomes that guy just needs it and needs
a breather.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
It's like, is he hurt?

Speaker 3 (38:51):
No, so sorry, little Johnny and Susie in the third
deck don't get to see him.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
But a way you go.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
The commissioner said, well, I acknowledge, you know, the commitment
to enter Miami and the demanding schedule, but for now,
you you got to sit this game out. We'll look
at it going forward, but you've got to sit this game.
You got to get out of your own way here, right.

Speaker 6 (39:13):
I'm with that. Do you think he should not have
gotten one game?

Speaker 2 (39:15):
I don't think he should have gotten suspended. In the end,
he all start with different people, right. Isn't that the
way life works?

Speaker 6 (39:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (39:22):
But isn't that the way life works?

Speaker 7 (39:24):
Though?

Speaker 2 (39:24):
Already I mean, you got what's more important.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
That he comes out and he and he kisses the
ass of some sponsors at the at the All Star
Game and waves his little hand game.

Speaker 6 (39:34):
I thought there were fans of the game. That's my battle.

Speaker 9 (39:36):
No.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
But but again, if he goes out there and he
plays five minutes and then sits down, what's worse? Is that?

Speaker 2 (39:43):
Great? I got to see him on the field and
take a picture.

Speaker 4 (39:45):
Now out if you go ahead and go, you know,
take pictures with the fans, sign autographs. I don't, you know,
Mike too many times. And whether it's in soccer, you know,
I don't know how many times it happens there. But
whether it's in the NBA with load management or just
the attitude of players.

Speaker 6 (40:02):
In the NFL, you know, give back to the fans.

Speaker 4 (40:05):
They pay a lot of money, man, Relax, you know,
a lot of money comes out.

Speaker 6 (40:10):
Of their pocket, and people are not rich.

Speaker 4 (40:12):
They spend that money to go ahead and enjoy the
experience and to see their favorite players. At least give
back a little bit, you know what I mean? A
little bit that you've been able to enjoy such a
luxury life because of what these fans have given them
to your sports.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
I have no problem with that.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
I just say on the larger scale, the fact that
we call the guys the task and in the end
you can talk about scheduling and look, I get it.
The NBA, it's the long standing. Hey, this guy only
comes into town once a year. It's unfortunate, but in
the end, you're paying for laundry. Now, you could go
in and talk about fraudulent advertising practices. If suddenly it's

(40:51):
a hey, here's your only shot to see Lebron James,
come in and see him.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
I used him.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
I had partial season ticket package for the Lake There no, no, no.
I had it a few years ago when towards the
end of Kobe Bryant's run, I saw him in a
suit twice. Those were the two of the six games.
The other four games he didn't even come to the arena. Yeah,
I complain about no because I knew the risk that
that was what he was doing.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
So you get over it, right.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
And in the end, you make your choices with your money,
and sometimes you lose, you know.

Speaker 4 (41:23):
I wish athletes would be more cognizant about the fans nowadays.
They were back twenty thirty years ago.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
They had no power, Arnie what they had no power.
So it became the you have to play you're.

Speaker 4 (41:37):
One hundred percent right, they had no power back then.
Now it's like, we'll take a good management and the
fans are not as as important as television rights.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
Well, but it all plays together.

Speaker 3 (41:48):
Who's he beholden to a playing in an All Star
Game or being available for Inner Miami? Being available for
Inner Miami. So the extra days off probably helped. Hey,
a ticket scandal next in the National Football League, plenty
of chaos there between the Union and now another issue
that is a squar's head. But first, I mean, in
the update that Steve de Sager just gave you, I

(42:10):
mean it, we'd be remiss if we didn't celebrate the
fact that Kurtz has gone six for six with eight
RBI for the A's and a fifteen to two route
of the Astros with four home runs.

Speaker 6 (42:24):
Wow, Now his.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
Stat line if you bring it up, well you know
you're conjuring evil. Six at bats, six runs scored, and
six hits. That's the way it reads in the box
score before you get to the eight RBI and four
home runs. But four home run games, I mean, we
just do not see this.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
Every everyone seen it.

Speaker 6 (42:43):
Break up, sure, break up the record. We have four
one games?

Speaker 3 (42:47):
Sure, sure, sure, I'm trying to thank Michael Jack Schmid
I think has one in his history.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
There you go, go that it's going to be a
short list.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
Well, I also know that if I give it a
and let it breathe long enough, we're going to have
Steve de Sager is going to know those guys.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
No, he's a wizard. We've had this conversation before.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
According to a quick review, we've had nineteen instances in
the history of Major League Baseball before four home run games. Yep,
get on with Suorez. Hugenio, uh, Henio, Henny. I'm trying
to channel my inner Manci Milanas because she said it

(43:34):
just so brilliantly.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
Well, then look she's got that down.

Speaker 6 (43:39):
He did it this year. I didn't even know.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
Yeah, so he did this year. But I mean, you've
got some of the all time greats that have done it.
Willie Mays did it. Bob Horner, one of the classic
guys from the Braves back in the day, guy who
made me believe I could be a big baseball player.
Why because I was big and a baseball player and
then I stopped growing.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
I'm a short little man.

Speaker 3 (44:01):
Michael Schmidt and Michael Jack Schmidt, Gil Hodges Luke garrig
ed Delahanty with you.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
Yeah, no, I mean some legends there.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
I mean it's certainly not happening a lot recently, but
nineteen times before tonight in the history of Major League Baseball,
we celebrate the rarity. It's like the other night right
where you have the catcher's interference and a walk off
that hadn't happened since nineteen seventy one when it happened
against Johnny Bench.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
Oh my, so you know you're seeing like baseball. We
talk about it a lot.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
Jason and I He had a conversation back when he
used to do an evening show at the Other the
Other Shop, and Jason Stark said, look, every night you
watch baseball, you're going to see something you may not
have seen before, or something that maybe only your grandparents
had seen.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
And tonight we give you a little of that.

Speaker 4 (44:54):
You ever do like unbreakable records in baseball, or like
I mean the rby.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
You want to do some list radio, No, I do, no.

Speaker 4 (45:01):
But I mean, just you know, just there's some that
just like back to back no hitters.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
I saw a guy just sell a cut signature of
Johnny Van demir On on Twitter.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
Just the other day got a hundred bock sport.

Speaker 3 (45:17):
I'm an old man. You look young, I look spry.
I'm a powerful and attractive man. But I am old
and I am learning.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
You know what, You know what.

Speaker 4 (45:25):
I'm surprised has stood all this time as Hack Wilson's
RBI record. You would think that somebody like Judge just
would have put a you know the way, Well.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
But you hit a lot, Yeah, but you hit a
lot of solo meaningless home runs at the back end
of games. It just turned former Cub just to tie
tie it to Hack Wilson.

Speaker 4 (45:43):
Nobody's gotten close on that, to be honest, I mean
they haven't really gotten close.

Speaker 3 (45:48):
Well that's a tough one though, right, I mean because
you go back, if you look at the National League
for many, many years, you had essentially three automatic outs
in most lineups. The pitcher of the second basement and
the catcher were all light hitting individuals. And you could
go back and you have outlier years where there were
great lineups, or you had a second basement like the

(46:10):
Cubs and Ryan Samdber should now but now now, now
you might have a little bit more to where hey,
this should make sense. You've got more but all of
that to say, you still have a lot of light hitters.
I mean, and then we've got three outcomes and a
lot of strikeouts. Not many guys draw walks with great frequency,

(46:32):
going up, grip it and rip it kind of thing,
as if they were happy Gilmore.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
Uh so you got so you've got that kind of thing.

Speaker 3 (46:41):
So you've got a lot of free swingers, which means, look,
you were watching team batting averages plumbing year over year
every year.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
That's right, Major League.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
But what in the National League as of last week, right,
you had Will Smith was the only guy hitting over
three hundred.

Speaker 4 (46:56):
There was that stat that You'll Smith the catcher, about
two fifty hitters were what was it like ten fifteen
years ago? You'll have just about every team has you know,
had so many two fits about at least two fifty
or higher. Now team batting there's like only what four
or five teams above two fits. This is horrible the

(47:16):
way hitting has gotten just absolutely and we grew up
or baseball had some some of the best hitters we've
ever seen in our life, you know, like Tony Gwenn
and Rod Carew and and people George Brett, people like
these were like the best hitters in the history of
the game compared to what we have now.

Speaker 3 (47:33):
Well, but look at what you just did. You just
went and pulled the best of the best, like any
football well you.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
Know, Brady or Mahome.

Speaker 3 (47:42):
Yeahs, like you picked four of the greatest hitters the
game has ever seen. We don't have those guys, like,
of course we don't have those guys. Those guys, those
guys are unicorns.

Speaker 6 (47:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (47:52):
Well, Tony Gwinn was just doesn'believe.

Speaker 3 (47:55):
I mean, one of the nicest guys. He's sitting and
talked to that guy forever.

Speaker 4 (47:59):
The dad you can give him about his strikeouts in
his career compared to strikeouts now, is just mind Bobby
Well to put.

Speaker 3 (48:07):
A little pin in this and to give you some
of the historical precedent because you brought up the RBI
in a single season. So curiosity, you know, killed the cat.
But gets Harmon to start click Aty clacken while you talk.
Is you got Hack Wilson at one ninety one, but
Garret goes one eighty five. Hank Greenberg. Now, look well

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look where we're going. We're going one hundred years ago, right,
Jimmy Fox, another couple of Lou Garrett seasons where he
hit one hundred, had one hundred and seventy three and
twenty seven and thirty Kline going back again, Jimmy Fox,
Greenberg again, then Babe Ruth comes in in nineteen twenty one,
one hundred and sixty eight. The most recent guy that

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cracked the top twenty. The only guy recent to crack
the top twenty was Manny Ramirez in nineteen ninety nine had.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
One hundred and sixty five.

Speaker 6 (49:00):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
The next closest two thousand and one. Sammy Sosa had
one hundred and sixty and then Sosa again in nineteen
ninety eight, that magical year had one hundred and fifty eight.
A Wan Gonzalez season.

Speaker 6 (49:13):
We're on pace.

Speaker 4 (49:14):
People were getting walked ahead of them, so they were,
you know, are getting walked behind them.

Speaker 3 (49:18):
I'll tell you what that ninety eight season, man, you
want to talk about fun and baseball. And I was
at Cooperstown and they had a giant day by day scoreboard,
and that was when Ken Griffy Junior was still part
of that race with Maguire and Sosa, and they over
the loud speakers were playing every one of their bats

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so as soon as all right.

Speaker 4 (49:39):
He did we have it on the TV they were
breaking in the season.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
Oh absolutely, I mean it just captivated a nation.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
And then all the guys that got fat and rich
and happy were the first to say, well, those journey
rotten crooks, keep them away from Cooperstown and everything I
hold here, the sanctity of the game. It's like, wait,
where were you in ninety eight when these guys showed
up looking like they were straight out.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
Of a Marvel movie after one off season? Any love it?
But we loved it?

Speaker 3 (50:06):
Right, I mean, look then they had the braves pitchers
with the chicks dig the long ball commercials and everything else.
But hey, we've got a big scandal in the National
Football League, and I know you you love scandal as
much as anybody. We'll get to the union part of
it in a minute. But the NFL was fining roughly
one hundred players and two dozen club employees for violating

(50:30):
the league policy by selling Super Bowl fifty nine tickets
for above face value. This coming from the Associated Press.

Speaker 6 (50:39):
They was selling you two brokers, right, said the.

Speaker 3 (50:41):
Players who resold them. We'll have to pay a fine
up one and a half times the face value they paid. Oooo,
what a deterrent since they made far more than one
and a half times the face value.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Have you ever gought into the.

Speaker 3 (50:55):
Secondary market or a Super Bowl as a guy who
paid through the nose to take by then father in
law to the game between the Packers and Steelers in
Big D We're talking three and a half to four
times your face value. And that's even folks in a
fire sale desperation moment. Club employees who violated the policy

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will be fined two times face value, memo sent out.
The league still completing its investigation, but this goes back.
We saw this years ago. Mike Tice, right, offensive line coach,
coach coordinator, all of those things. He had gotten in
trouble for it because he had a nice little business
running tickets through And look, it's part of the policy, right.

(51:39):
There's no betting on baseball that's in the clubhouse, no
betting on your team, fantasy leagues, there's different rules all
of those kind of things. But according to the CBA,
players on all thirty two teams they can purchase two
tickets for the Super Bowl, and they're enhancing the mandatory
compliance training regarding the policy for all personnel emphasizing the

(52:00):
specific requirements of the policy and the broader principle that
no one should profit personally from their NFL affiliation at
the expense of our fans.

Speaker 4 (52:11):
Right right, So some people could understand what's going on here.
Players and coaches are allowed to purchase tickets for the
Super Bowl.

Speaker 6 (52:20):
Whether they're playing in it or not.

Speaker 4 (52:21):
So these players, coaches, administrators, whatever they were, decided I'm
going to purchase two tickets and they get it at
face value, right, So, Mike, what is face value on
these tickets?

Speaker 6 (52:32):
Do you know?

Speaker 3 (52:32):
Off to take anywhere between maybe six fifty and several
thousand dollars, So they get in is on paper, and
they do a lottery for so many tickets or whatever,
where someone Joe and Susie Q public may get to
buy a few. And then you've got people that have
media affiliations also for responsibilities, will be allotted the ability

(52:56):
to buy tickets as well, and they're under the same purview,
right right.

Speaker 4 (52:59):
So you buy a pair of tickets, let's say a
thousand dollars a piece, and you sell them to a
broker for five thousand dollars a piece, and your pocket
to money. How egregious is that, especially if you're a
player or a coach where you're making millions on top
of millions of dollars and you're really sticking it to
the fans who have to pay that exorbitant price in

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the secondary market. It's a big blank you to the fans.
It is so disgusting. If you're going to buy two seats, hey,
how about doing something right with it? How about giving
it to a super fan of your team, or donate
it to charity or who knows, do whatever. You will,
give it to you friends or family. But to go
ahead and make money off it and put it in

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your pocket. I mean, how desperate do you have to
be when you're already a millionaire. I think it's horrible
they do something like that, Mike, I think it's disgusting.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
Wow, do you need a hug on a Friday?

Speaker 6 (53:54):
You're on the other side of that air.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
What the market will bear you're around a millionaire?

Speaker 3 (54:01):
No, no, no, don't do that because that means if
I've got five bucks, I shouldn't have six. If I've
got a million, I can't keep working towards the next
a million.

Speaker 4 (54:11):
So let me just get this right. I got fired
from my job. I'm not working. You're a gazillionaire and
you don't want.

Speaker 6 (54:16):
To buy me lunch.

Speaker 4 (54:17):
Okay, I can see the kind of person you are.

Speaker 6 (54:19):
Then right, that's fine.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
If you if you need some help. I'm not saying
I'm not working.

Speaker 6 (54:23):
I don't have a job.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
Come on, man, you.

Speaker 6 (54:25):
Know what, Pull your head out of here, you know what?

Speaker 4 (54:27):
Come on, man, these these guys make millions of dollars.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
They every not everybody makes millions of dollars. Two.

Speaker 3 (54:34):
You don't know someone's financial responsibility. You better get the
hangers on.

Speaker 6 (54:38):
That, and then I don't care who you do.

Speaker 4 (54:41):
Right, this is come on, that's wrong that don't buy
two takes.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
No, No, it's the look, it's the policy as stated. But
in terms of do I think on the grand scale,
this is some egregious, horrible thing. No, you made a
couple of bucks, not a couple of nicots.

Speaker 4 (54:55):
That's not the point. The point is it was a
big blank you to the fan.

Speaker 3 (55:00):
A lot of those tickets you might have sold them
to your buddies. Well you know what, that league doesn't
know that. How many other employees or players did that?

Speaker 6 (55:11):
What kind of nice guy are you?

Speaker 4 (55:12):
If you say to your buddies, I'm gonna have to
make a couple one hundred dollars on you when you
know you could have just charge them face value as
you're already a millionaires.

Speaker 3 (55:20):
Well, your buddy really wanted to go to the game,
you could go pay five thousand. There you can get
them from me, h for an extra cup of coffee.
Uh please, My point just being you can't. You can't
monitor every one of those transactions. You can try, but
in this particular case of all the things going on
with the league and these leagues, it's is far from

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the most degreeients got going on here. Now it might
feel a little slimy for you, But if I'm a
guy at the back end of a roster like we
were talking about earlier, right, I'm man number fifty three,
and I can make a couple extra bucks before I inevitably.

Speaker 4 (55:55):
Get betcha, that's not who's doing it well.

Speaker 3 (55:58):
But in the app since of that, we're talking about
the larger scale.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
I'm saying, on this end.

Speaker 3 (56:04):
You might have a guy who might be out of
the league, so it's the last couple of bucks he's
making off of that. And and then to your point,
coaches and executives who might be able to go and
buy the better seats, et cetera. So, yeah, it's it's
a topic. We continue going through this. It's it's not
the most egregious. That's also the you know, to me

(56:24):
when it gets you get down to it. Capitalism when
it when it comes to these things, if you have
the opportunity to buy them, Like if I want to
go to a concert and then I don't, should I
just give him away to someone at face value? If
there's worth three times what I paid for him by
time the concert's coming up.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
When I find out I can't go.

Speaker 6 (56:43):
No'll make a botload of money.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
Go make your own cash.

Speaker 3 (56:46):
Right? Is it because I'm not an NFL player that
suddenly the your tone and tenor change there, Arnie Spaniard.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
We'll talk about that as we continue