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Good about preseason predictions.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
He's everywhere San Diego State football, well, maybe a bar
at eight o'clock in the morning for his morning show,
He's Rich Ornberger and Ornberger's where.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
You find him on Buddy. Welcome in, oh Man. Thank
you for having me. It's good to be back in
the chair and really nice. Jason's taking a little time
to be with the fam.
Speaker 6 (01:18):
So let's rock it roll.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
We are not in any shortage of sports topics tonight,
my friend. This has been a busy weekend, a busy
start to the week. There's a lot going on. We
got preseason football getting started this Thursday.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Life's good Hall of Fame Induction weekend on the baseball side,
Hall of Fame coming up, the game between the Lions
and the Chargers, all the pomp and circumstance and pageantry
that goes along with that. But we have to start
off once again, as we've done so many times here
in the last couple of weeks. I feel like I'm
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getting chipped away at bit by bit here Rich as
we just have you heard Steve de Seger's update the
passing of Ryan Sandberg, Chicago Cub's great go back to
a bunch of magical moments talking with Frostburg about it
right as we're coming on air. As children right growing
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up in Chicago. Look, I was a White Sox fan.
But one thing that we had, and as a nation,
we had, was afternoon baseball at Wrigley Field. Because the
lights didn't come in untill nineteen eighty eight, so all
eighty one were home dates were day games, which meant
you'd finish school and you'd get home by the top
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of the third and you'd watch Harry Carey and you
grew up watching. You know, for me, this is you know,
the hallmark moment as Sandberg became the everyday guy. Go
back to eighty three and into eighty four when he
was really starting to establish himself and they have that
magical run which we'll get to the ultimate of Sandberg
highlights here in a moment, but before they met, you know,
(03:00):
your padres in in the faded playoffs that that year.
But all of that to say, you know, he was
just such a staple of everything. Ten time All starred,
nine time, nine time Gold Gloves. It's in a row, right.
He was a guy that just dominated at the position.
(03:21):
His fielding percentage for his career nine eighty nine, which
is just insane, or seven times Silver Schlager, nine time
Gold Glove, ten time All Star, Hall of Fame two
thousand and five.
Speaker 7 (03:33):
Die.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
He's long been battling prostate cancer and they'd made an announcement,
you know, a couple of couple of days ago, you know,
kind of backing, backing down on some of the responsibilities
and hopes that you know, he was going to be
able to be part of intriment?
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Can you believe this right?
Speaker 6 (03:49):
Me?
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Being the trading card lunatic that I am right. I
follow some of these groups and one of them is
guys that that write letters and use the.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Home addresses or whatever.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
He was still returning male as of a week ago,
No including little notes, just saying hey, thanks for the
love and support and everything all the way through. So
you know, he's He's a guy that, as my brother
called it right in an age a week where we
lost hul Cogan, we lost Ozzy Osbourne. My brother decided
to use wrestling parlance related to Ryan Sandberg as he
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was the heel of our childhood as White Sox fans,
because you were watching what was going on over at
Wrigley Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
I mean, look, he's just one of these ballplayers who
I think will always be known for, you know, quiet
leadership and some of his clutch heroics at Wrigley Field especially,
and I think he was part of an error that
really rekindled that hope that sprung eternal every spring for
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Cubs fans around that area of the country, like we know,
a cursed franchise for so long?
Speaker 6 (05:02):
What was it all? The way up until the twenty
sixteen World Series.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
You got it at sixteen, yep.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
I mean it's just it's just one of those fan
bases that have been through a ton, but him and
that crew, they really did something special to the city
of Chicago. And I think you can't mention those teams
without mentioning Harry Carey. You know you can't.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
You don't. You don't really have one without the other.
And how many.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
Calls was was carrying on when Rhino was manning second
base or at the plate. He will be missed, Like
you said, his humility and heroics continued off the baseball
diamond as a member of the community because he he cared.
Speaker 6 (05:49):
He cared about his fans. Yeah, and that's that's.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
Something that not a lot of baseball players, not a
lot of athletes unfortunately do is respond to their fans.
Speaker 6 (05:57):
But he did. That's important.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Well, look at he's also a guy that's on the
list of Hey, I retired but then decided I was
coming back, which would seemed to be a hallmark there
in Chicago as you go through. But certainly you know
with Samberg, he's also a guy that he was a
one team guy right after he came over from the Phillies.
That was it, like there was no pursuing greener pastures
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because they weren't winning. Remember the eighty four season also
marked as we get ready for the trade deadline when
Rick Sutcliffe came over in that trade that sent you know,
Joe Carter and everything like that. That he comes in
and has a monster run and then they're propelled to
that playoff run. But the hallmark game, which is either
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known as the Sandberg game or the Suitor game, depending
on where you sit on that fence, because we get
to bring in Harry Carey, the aforementioned Harry Carey, and
let's let's hear his call.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Proud just absolutely gone batty, all right.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
So this was also an NBC game, So he got
a Bob Costa's call where he goes, is this guy
really Roy Hobbs right, come to life from the natural
kind of thing. So he gets suitored twice in the
y to tie it in the ninth.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
Yeah, tied in the ninth, And did he did he
walk it off in the tenth?
Speaker 4 (07:41):
No?
Speaker 3 (07:41):
No, no, So the Cardinals score too in the tenth.
So this is June twenty third, nineteen eighty four TV
National TV audience, so you have the NBC telecast as well.
Speaker 6 (07:53):
So in the.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Ninth right he hits the home run, so it goes
nine to nine into the tenth and he hits the
two run home run to make it an eleven eleven game,
and eventually the Cubs win it. But the reaction from
sooner as he gets them the second time, full on
fist throw and if you can just go and just
imagine the worst string of expletives you can possibly put together,
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but just the jubilation at Wrigley just you know, midsummer crowd,
which is look, I've always called it the best outdoor
bar in America.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
There's no question about it.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
When Wrigley Field is going and the Cubs are playing
like playing well like they are right now, there's no
better place for ambiance.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
And especially in the in the summertime, because if I
remember correctly, that was that was a late June or
early but man, maybe it was a late July game,
but it was a summertime game.
Speaker 6 (08:50):
And the craziest.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
Thing about that game because I've seen the replay before.
As you know, I've worked many years with Steve Hartman,
and so as a baseball and all sports historian and
a member of our family here at Fox Sports Radio.
We've talked about the Samberg game more than just once,
but I digress.
Speaker 6 (09:11):
I mean that truly may have been the.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Moment that turned the Cubs eighty four season around and
led to a resurgence. And that was a special time
for baseball because if you remember, I mean, it was embattled,
you know, player labor action and things like that, but
you had these special moments that really created lifelong fans
(09:37):
for fan bases like the New York Mets, the Miracle
Mets in the early eighties, this resurgence in eighty four
of the Chicago Cubs, and he was a big part
of that.
Speaker 6 (09:47):
Man, what a special time.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
To watch baseball, and what an incredible job by Harry
carry on that call.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Gosh, you had the strike of eighty one, the collusion
issues going on, and certainly again with Atlanta and Chicago,
those are the two teams you were always able to
watch on the respective superstations. One that we've talked about
a lot, going back to the Hogan story and the
rise of you know, TNT and the nWo and all
(10:15):
that fun stuff WCW versus those Monday Night Wars of
wrestling for all those years. But you know, for me
growing up in Chicago, you know, there were three thousand
Cubs fans per White Sox fan and that ratio is
probably even worse today. But all of that across the
nation and baseball fans around the globe know the Cubs brand,
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the lovable losers, who you lose a little of that
once you win a World Series. But certainly Ryan Samberg
one of those best to never right because for all
of his greatness, and we've read off the accolades before,
never got to go play in the In the Fall Classic,
but gave you big moments like this here from June
(11:00):
twenty third of nineteen eighty four, just a highlight that
everybody that's followed baseball has seen multiple times, heard the
Harry Carey call as.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
We played it there.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
And even as you get into Hall of Fame induction
ceremonies and looking back at the past heroes, you know,
there's always those indelible moments that are etched into the history.
And here is another one, and we celebrate Samberg passed
away today long complications with prostate cancer at the age
(11:33):
of sixty five.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Yeah, yeah, man, I appreciate the battle though, because, like
many people, I've had family members succumb to the battle.
Speaker 6 (11:44):
I've had a couple overcome it, you know, And.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
Man, you just root hard when you hear that diagnosis,
regardless of what it was in this case, you know, prostate.
Many times in my own life personally, it's been breast cancer,
and you pray for those folks and their families, and
you know it's going to take a lot of will
and a lot of strength. And it did for him,
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and like you said, all the way up until last week,
returning calls and letters from people who cared about him.
Speaker 6 (12:18):
Reaching back out. Didn't need to do.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
That, but felt obliged or honored to don't. I don't
know him personally, so I don't know how he felt
about it, but either way, I love what he did.
Speaker 6 (12:33):
For the culture of sports.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
I love what he did for kids growing up during
that time, because I think that's often what's lost when
we talk about these.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
Very I don't know.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
I guess adult topics around sports is that this is
for kids. Like I mean, I remember being motivated by
the heroes on the TV, or when my folks could
scrape together enough money to bring me to an arena
or a stadium, the ones that I'm seeing on a
field or a court in front of me, Like that's
what it's all about. And you know that that Ryan Samberg.
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He motivated a lot of young kids out there to
be maybe to feel like they were more than themselves
or be better one day. And you know he will
be missed. So rest in peace to a Cub's great,
no question about it.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Go back to the eighty four MVP voting.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
He had an eight point five war, two hundred hits,
nineteen home runs, eighty four RBI, thirty two stolen bases
in a three fourteen batting average, just a magnificent, magnificent
season in the beginning of what became a Hall of
Fame run because he wasn't even a power guy at
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that point. We all know the accolades and what he
became at the position. I've long joked here on Fox
Sports Radio outside of Ryan Samberg, go back to a
lot of those National League lineups, and you can bring
in Joe and a few other guys, but generally it
was the pitcher couldn't hit, the catcher couldn't hit, and
the second baseman couldn't hit.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
But in Chicago you had.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Ryan Samberg rested peace Rhino, best to the family, friends, supporters,
and long battle for those that are battling out there.
Our thoughts and prayers and love are with you as well,
and good memories. Go watch yourself some Harry Carey highlights
as you listen to us here at Fox Sports Radio.
(14:31):
Rich Hornberger in for Jason Smith at Ornburger where you
find him on Twitter. Find me over at Swollen Dome again.
Ryan Samberg passes away at the age of sixty five.
Another another piece of that little South Side Chicago upbringing
for me is gone. So we take some heart in that.
(14:52):
As you mentioned Rich, you know it's a game for kids,
and in those moments we become kids again as we
talk about it.
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(16:17):
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Speaker 5 (16:24):
Well, I will say this, I I think I can
clean up all right, but man, oh man, if they
start digging in my closet, no no, no, no, thank you,
no thank you?
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Yeah, just what you need. All right, how about we
got to the hotline now talk a little National Football
League just a couple of days away from the Hall
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we're calling it today, mister Locke, and how are we
doing this evening?
Speaker 7 (17:02):
What's going on? Gentlemen? It'll always be Twitter with me.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Yeah, I refuse to uh.
Speaker 7 (17:07):
Till I got that's it?
Speaker 5 (17:09):
Yeah, yeah, same here, it's it's too tough. I mean,
you know, I mean, what were we gonna do?
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Every branding just didn't work quite so well.
Speaker 8 (17:16):
Well, so it's so clunky saying a post on X
when we used to be able to, especially Jason, a
longtime journalist, reporter, man of words, being concise and word
efficiency is so important in your trade.
Speaker 6 (17:32):
Just being able to say it's a tweet was so nice. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (17:37):
Right, No one's ever gonna be like, hey, I sent
you an X or xed you know what I mean?
I want to rex your X. I mean, that was
grow smart. I'd like to retweet your tweet, right whatever,
like I'm going to react your X like it actually
sounds kind of dirty.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Yeah, just a little bit. And that's what we're trying
to figure out. Exactly what's what's imagined in this Christian
Wilkins situation there Las Vegas Raiders. Have you been able
to make sense of it? And how many layers of
the onion do we get to peel back?
Speaker 7 (18:10):
I cannot make sense of it presently. There's obviously hr involved.
There's obviously the Raiders, I guess, kind of navigating this
duality of some air personal politics and an alleged smooths
on the forehead and then this whole idea about his rehabit,
(18:33):
whether you know he's followed through on everything he needs
to follow through to at least their lawyers would see it,
you know, not violate his contract. I don't. I don't
know where the truth is exactly in all this and
how much of it is ultimately open to interpretation. I'll
(18:57):
say this, whatever had like whatever data didn't happen there,
like if he's healthy and he's able to play football,
and it is you know, at at worst I guess
him violating somebody's personal space a little bit. He's going
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to have no difficulty of finding work and probably finding
work at a pretty substantial sociality. He's a whole football player.
He's not that far removed from the open market where
he did quite well. And the Raiders, like, I you know,
I see a lot of stuff out there and people
are like, oh, well, he's a different cat's this or that? Well?
(19:40):
Like yeah, and the Raiders are a different franchise, Like
what the hell are the Raiders? Like what have they done? Right?
Like and if you want to summon that Pete Terrell's
been there for two point five seconds, I mean whatever,
but like, what what have they done? That's credible? Like
what have they done the last thirty years? Right? Like
the most memorable Raiders stuff of the last thirty years
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is like Al Davis pulling out a projector to like
remount Lane Kiffin. Right, It's like ridiculous statements. It's like
the Richard Seymour trade. It's it's I mean the Talk Bowl.
But that that really wasn't I can't for that. That's anything.
Maybe they can pose, but like they weren't on the
right side of it, like the idea, you know what
(20:21):
I mean that the raiders are arbitures of truth and reality.
I just don't know, you know, I don't know that
they deserve the benefit of the doubt. So we're going
to have to learn more about this situation. But I
have a hard time thinking again, if it's in the
realm of what is currently in the public spector, I
(20:44):
think Christian Wilkins is going to make out.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
Okay, Yeah, I mean I guess, I guess essentially, are
we looking at a mountain or an iceberg?
Speaker 6 (20:53):
You know, do we have the full story? Do we
have this right?
Speaker 7 (20:56):
I don't know?
Speaker 6 (20:58):
Or is there so much more? Like you don't know,
We don't know.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
And and but one thing all of us here know
is that the NFL and gosh, I mean, like it
or not. And I think most people would find this
part of the business somewhat detestable. I mean, the NFL
has housed, you know, men who were guilty pled guilty
of the mystic violences, abuses towards women, rape allegations, I mean,
(21:26):
like the list, murder allegations. The list goes on and
on and on. And you know, as long as they're
ready for Sunday, Monday, Thursday playoff games, whatever dates they
happen to land on. There's a lot of fans and
people and and spectators who look on, and to be
perfectly honest, I'm not above it.
Speaker 6 (21:46):
I do too, you know.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
I can hold two truths in my head at the
same time, where I did watch the Joe Mixon tape,
and I also watch him rush for over a thousand
yards a bunch of times over in the end l
and have to admit that I've been impressed at times
Tyreek Hill. I mean, how many times has he had
run ins with the low you know? So look, I
(22:09):
guess my point is, if the worst of this story
has already been released, Jason, I completely agree with you.
I think he's going to help a team if he's
healthy enough to. But going back to the Raiders, all
the changes they've made in a very competitive, very difficult division,
what do you make of Pete Carroll Carroll's opening salvo
(22:30):
as a coach in Vegas?
Speaker 6 (22:32):
Do you think this is going to work?
Speaker 7 (22:38):
I don't. I think it's a three year chore. You know,
and I especially in that division. Mayby coach in that
division is a Hall of Famer. Every other coach in
that division seems to me to have a franchise quarterback,
or if you want to say the verdict still out
on Bonnicks, I'm going to say it's Sean Payton tells
me he's a franchise quarterback. I'm gonna take his work
(22:58):
for it. But if you're not, oh, I think you
probably will be by the middle of the season. Right,
But he's lacking. He's starting from behind in a couple
of major ways. And it's not like this is you
know the NFC, Yeah, the NFC South or the AFC South,
where he could just parachute in that division and already
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have a level of expertise and acumen and a resume
that seems pretty unimpeachable compared to his peers. That's just
not the case where he finds himself now, you know,
I mean even the whole Tom Brady but all like,
is is that necessarily a good thing? Like I've never
seen someone who's an owner or you know, whether he's
(23:44):
allowed to pretend to be the acting owner or whatever,
who doesn't like kind of pee all down their leg
at first. Like it's just I know, he's been around
professional sports his whole life, and a lot of these
guys whose daddies were billionaires who were born into it
and were nepo babies, like they never figured out. But
I just think it's different, man, and I don't know
too many who have made that smooth transition. And so
(24:08):
even if you're going to tell me all, well, he
can protect Mark Davison this or that, I don't even
know if Tom Brady knows where all the minefields are
in terms of what he's navigating right now. So no,
I think I think it's it's kind of fought with peril,
to be honest, and Pete Terroll is only going to
approach it one way, right, It's going to always be
(24:30):
about winning this next second, this next minute, this next series,
this next play. I means he's always kind of been
that way, and now he's very close to the end,
and I just don't know that they sync up with
where they are as a franchise and where he is
as a coach, And so I tend to think the
thirty years of Raiders' futility tells me this is probably
(24:50):
going to be pretty futile.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Jase, we talked a lot about contracts the last couple
of weeks. When you've joined us A couple of them
still out when we look at Hendrickson, uh and Micah Parsons.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
But let's go to Cowboys camp.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
They averted a major catastrophe today with guitting it, but
it's still.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Six week injury to your left tackle.
Speaker 7 (25:15):
Yeah, and and you worry about, you know, if that's
what he's like on the other side of it, if
there's any you know, if this becomes a situation where
that that knee is robbly, you're unstable. And he's got
a lot to prove to begin with, and him missing
all this these reps is not good. Yeah, I don't
(25:38):
have good vibes about the Cowboys. I have to follow
the column for the Washington Post on them today. Honestly, Uh,
it's just the same. It's just they're checking all the
boxes they always check, you know, and all that stuff
plays at the box office and it plays on the
TV ratings, but it doesn't it doesn't play in the standings.
You know. They continually take risks all character guys because
they can get them cheaper and carry's he's the vat
(26:00):
the potential value and he sees how many jerseys that
guy could sell if it pans out, and this or that.
But it kind of looks like they're collection of individuals,
you know, and like they're perfect thumb unders, Like yeah,
they have enough top side, you know, high end talent
that if they get off to a fast start and
they're able to play with the lead and they can
just attack the quarterback all the time, like that's great.
(26:21):
But I mean this is a team that was, like
I've seen I mean just looking at them some of
the metrics like if you look at every team in
the NFL, and how many yards they allowed before before
contact against the rush and how few yards they generated
before contact when they rushed, Like it's staggering from the
(26:42):
metrics that fund when I dug more into their season,
like they're a bottom five offensive team on first down
and the bottom five defensive team are like I just
and I mean, where is the roster that much better?
You know? I just they got a forty five million
dollar quarterback. He makes sixty million dollars a year, Like,
I don't think it's it's going to work. The culture's work.
(27:05):
We got four or five guys who get overpaid and
everybody else has got to beg for scraps and listen
to Jerry rip them publicly he doesn't think they're playing
up to their contractor rip them for getting hurt, Like,
I don't think that really breeds, you know, camaraderie and
cohesiveness and selflessness. And I look at their schedule and
I look at a head coach was probably over his head,
(27:26):
and I say, I don't think they're gonna be frontrunner.
I think they're gonna be chasing, and they're gonna be
chasing a lot, and they're gonna be chasing even some
teams early on, like maybe the Giant, who if that
defensive front gets off, like they could muck that game up,
that could be an un game. Like, I mean, I
don't know. I don't see they're gonna be up much
better running the ball, and I don't think they can
stop the run still, So I got questions, you know,
(27:50):
like Evra Flues won't give up the big play, but
he gonna try to rain in Mike at all. I
don't buy them. I would play them under seven and
a half wings. Wow, I have played them on this
seven and a half points. I think it's I'll struggle.
Speaker 6 (28:05):
I love the motto, the team model you gave them.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
You know, they're like indelible words that are attached to franchises.
In many of them three three word monikers, you know,
the Patriot Way or the or legion of boom or
why do they move? In the case of the LA Chargers,
I know I'm using a contraction there, a cheated a
little bit, but you but collection of individuals pretty much
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sums up the past quarter century for the Dallas Cowboys.
That is perfectly stated. Jason lockin Ford joining US Fox
Sports Radio. How about the Browns. I've heard everything from
Flacco's the day one starter, to Shador Sanders the best
quarterback we've ever seen in football pads to Kenny Pickett's
the guy but ooh the injury we don't know. And
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then I've also heard all three of them are going
to be traded at different points. So who the hell
is starting the season in Cleveland Jason Flacco?
Speaker 7 (29:00):
And I think they're keeping him under the bubble reps
because you know, they've seen what he can do there. Now.
I don't think he's going to be showing seventy yard
bombs like crazy that Mary Cooper like he did three
years ago, because I don't think they have the offensive
line for it, and they also don't have Pete Nick
Chubb there drawing the kind of attention that he did,
So they've got issues. But no, I think they're keeping
Flaco on the bubble rap because they want to ride
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that as long as they can. But I think even
internally they know trying to ride that more than six
to eight weeks is probably feeble. So in the meantime,
they've got to get these other guys ready to play.
But facto Flaco speaks the language. Flacco has been existing
in this league for five years now, getting no reps.
You know what I mean, he doesn't need training camp.
I mean, hell, the year he took them to the playoffs,
he came up his couch and what November and practice
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for a week and they're throwing for four hundred yards
every game. So I think they have to figure out
who these other kids are. I think Pickett was going
to be traded and the injury set that back, and so,
you know, is he still traded at some point? I
think probably, But Hammy's going to be Turkey And so
really it's about Gabriel and Sanders and repping them up
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and again, can one of them take the baton Week eight,
Week nine, Week ten or picket's still there. You write
picket for a little while, but I don't think to
ride them for a whole half season. So it's got
to play out. It just started. But I mean, I
think the Browns probably the last team to win a
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game in this league, like if them are the Saints,
and when I really dig down on the schedules, like
I think it might be the Browns. I don't like
them in the trenches, you know, really on I just
side of the ball and the defense can it was
you know, great at home two years ago. Even that year,
it wasn't the same on the road. There's been slippage there.
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There's been some decay. I think they're really up against it.
And yeah, I think Flaco starts as long as you can,
but I don't think it's going to be that long
because I think he's going to heal a lot.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
He's Jason Locking for Odyssey Washington Post on a five
to seven the Fan in Baltimore. Jason, as always appreciate
you stopping by. Enjoy the Hall of Fame game. We're
almost there.
Speaker 7 (31:17):
We are almost there and almost there. Have a great night, gentlemen.
Speaker 6 (31:20):
Thank you having me be great.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Buddy, all right, on acs at and Twitter as we
originally called it there at Jason lockerfor see No I'm conditioned,
reconditioning and rebranding all the time. Appreciate Jason stopping by.
He joins us each and every week. He's also got
his Want a Bet podcast. Rich Orberger in for Jason Smith.
I'm Mike Carmon, Thanks for being with us here Fox
Sports Radio. Not stop to send it over to the
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news desk, and a legend among men, It's Steve de Seger.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
Hello, gentlemen, and the sad news.
Speaker 9 (31:48):
First stuff that Hall of Famer Ryan Sandberg passed away
at the age of sixty five. The Cub's second baseman
won nine straight Gold Gloves through nineteen ninety one, was
NLMVP of nineteen eighty four. Sandberg had had a relapse
with his prostate cancer last year and it spread to
other Organs. The Cubs and Brewers were tied for first
in the NL Central to start tonight, Milwaukee at home
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beat the Cubs eight to four. The lost to All
Star pitcher Matthew Boyd, who was eleven and three but
allowed five runs in five innings. This evening, the Braves
are had ten to four at Kansas City and the
bottom of the ninth. Royals catcher Salvador Perez left bruce
elbow suffered at the plate hit by a pitch, and
Kansas City All Star pitcher Chris Bubach is out for
the year with a strained rotator cuff.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
The Braves have lost.
Speaker 6 (32:34):
Five in a row. Trying to end that, Atlanta.
Speaker 9 (32:37):
Acquired pitcher Carlos Carrasco from the Yankees. The Yanks lost
at home to Tampa Bay four to two, the final
for the Rays, who had lost four straight games. In
case you didn't hear, Saturday, Aaron Judge was placed on
the injured list with a strained elbow. The Dodgers were
five two winners at Cincinnati, a Reds team that had
won four straight. Reds left bases loaded in the ninth
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Shoeotani with a two run double the win. Indo Yoshinobu
Yamamoto seven innings, nine strikeouts. Detroit a five to one
winner over Arizona. A Uhenneo Suarez of the Diamondbacks left
hit by a pitch on the hand. X Rays were negative.
Baseball's trade deadline is Thursday. Baltimore beat Toronto eleven to four.
The loss to Chris Bassett, who was eleven and four
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this year, but in two and a third gave up
six runs. The Rockies at Cleveland game had a rain
delay at the start of about two and a half hours.
It's now bottom of the sixth. Colorado up three to
nothing on the Guardians. Cleveland closer Emmanuel Class is on
paid leave after a sports betting investigation. The Red Sox
have taken the lead four to three in the ninth
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at the Twins, and they've just gone to a rain
delay before the bottom of the ninth inning. The tarp
is on the field. Angels lead Texas to nothing in
the top of the fifth. No hits for the Rangers,
yet Texas has won six in a row. The Mets
have won seventh straight. They're leading one nothing at San
Diego in the top of the third. Pirates are ahead
four to three at the Giants top of the third.
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Mariners lead at the A's that is, won nothing at.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
The end of two innings.
Speaker 9 (34:05):
And we do have the NFL news to pass along
that there was an injury at Dallas Cowboys camp today.
Tackle Tyler Geiden was hurt, originally feared to be a
torn acl but no, did not tear it but reportedly
will miss four to six weeks. The Colts gave tackle
Bernard Rayman a four year extension. The Broncos gave wide
receiver Courtland Sutton a four year extension. WNBA wins for
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Dallas and Seattle. And in women's soccer, a Copa America
semifinal has just ended on FS one. Columbia eliminates Argentina
on penalty kicks. Argentina had been four to zero in
this tournament. Tuesday night semi on FS one, we'll at
Brazil against Uruguay the finalist Saturday.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Back to you, Thanks so much. Steve Disager at the
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e DU and coming up next, on the heels of
the question posed in the ponderance of the Cleveland Browns
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quartered and back quarterbacking situation, Doctor Rich is going to
explain to us how we're supposed to assess writers from
training camp. Is it the best of times or the
worst of times.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
Stay with us. We're just getting warmed up here.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Speaker 3 (35:32):
Welcome back in Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show with Me,
Mike Carmon. No, Jason Smithy'll be back later on in
the week. Tonight, we've got doctor Rich Hornberger live from
San Diego with us here, our.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Teammate long time in the NFL.
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Part of Countdown on Saturday mornings, getting you ready for
the day's action. Ramping up towards more TV radio and
chaos with San Diego State and his kids now getting
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maybe tag team wrestling. I don't know a little bit
of everything, but you know what, well, I mean, they're
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gotta be sizeable. Maybe they'll start teaming up and taking
you down soon enough.
Speaker 6 (36:13):
Dude, they're large humans. Yeah, I got my work cut
out for me.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
We were traveling off the weekend and carrying them through
the airport is almost almost a no go at this point.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Yeah, don't skip leg day, baby, That's what it's all about.
Right now, All right, time for the player that day
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Speaker 7 (36:43):
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They just had the Hall of Fame induction ceremonies. Plenty
of people asked about Ryan Sandberg wasn't able to be
there with his you know, his Hall teammates for for
lack of a better term, Wade Boggs talking to our
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he's my classmate, said take care of him, Lord, and
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should be. We'll hear more remembrances of Ryan Sandberg. Circle
back to that a little bit later. I'm seeing highlights
and old footage giving me chills, going back to a
childhood running home from school, raiding the refrigerator, and then
watching those games. But I got to ask you, Rich
a lot of stuff with training camps. We've got all
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the contract hold in hold out, trying to find major
dollars along the way, and then every injury report might
be the season ender, might be the career ender. Oh
it might just be a ripped fingernail. But we also
have the best of time worst of times in terms
of day to day fluidity for the quarterback position. We
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talk about Cleveland and Shador Sanders. One day he's getting cut,
the next day he's on on path to a Hall
of Fame career. How am I supposed to read through
the beat writers rhetoric?
Speaker 6 (39:02):
Here's the deal.
Speaker 5 (39:03):
I want everybody to try to remember what it was
like to.
Speaker 6 (39:08):
Practice, because it's really difficult.
Speaker 5 (39:10):
Like look, practice is not something we often do as adults.
We go to work, we have good work days, we
have bad work days. I guess occasionally you might practice
a conversation you want to have if it's particularly important
with your boss. You might kind of talk to yourself
on the road, you know, while you're white knuckling traffic,
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you might review some of the things you might want
to say when you're asking for that race.
Speaker 6 (39:35):
But not a lot of people remember what practice is like.
Speaker 5 (39:38):
But practice you literally try to fail so that you
don't fail in the game. So when you have failures
at practice, those are good moments because they're learning moments.
When you have successes at practice, they can be good moments,
but they also could be expected moments. So I guess
my point is you cannot fall in love with the
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results of practice. Yeah, Shador had a great day today,
but guess what, He's gonna have a rough day tomorrow,
or the next day or the next day. It all
comes out in the wash. It's about getting better and
seeing improvement. Is it a good thing that Shador Sanders
has had a good game or a good day at practice?
Speaker 6 (40:14):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (40:15):
Is it?
Speaker 5 (40:15):
Everything doesn't mean he's gonna be, you know, the next
Elite mobile quarterback taking over the NFL, like Jayden Daniels
probably not. You know, it's probably gonna settle somewhere in between.
So I would say, pump your brakes on the heavy
expectations and the heavy breathing you see around Twitter or
the artist formerly known as Twitter now named Ax.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
Yeah, because in Chicago they were gripping the other day
as Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams weren't quite seeing eye
to eye and what he was trying to call and
how it was executed.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
But day to day you try.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
To find those wins along the way, and it gives
us more to talk about the great successes and the
great failures. Rich Ohnberger for Jason Smith, not Mike Carbon
coming out next. You know, Rich, if he keeps carrying
Hiss through the airport, he might be on the cover
of Men's Health. That would put him in company with
a guy who's retooled. Welter cadd from the situation or
extricated himself, depending on whose story you believe, or was
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it a mutual parting of the way, because whenever you
hear the mutual breakup, you don't believe it all. Right,
which side called it right? Which side? You know the
made the call? But ever since then, right you were
able to go through the last bits, you won another
super Bowl. Fantastic. Jerry got to pat himself on the back.
The problem is that made him believe that he was
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absolutely right in what he was doing. And then year
after year, my ex's father told me many years ago,
residing in the Dallas area, we're never winning again so
long as he's here. Either sell the team or you know,
going to the inevitable end of things some years later.
(41:52):
Either way, it's a great pr run for us every
year here at Fox Sports Radio. We appreciate the Dallas
Cowboys and the clown show that they can be from
time to time. But once again we're in that usual
dance with a superstar that eventually he's gonna get his money.
It's just how long can you draw it out to
keep the audiences with you. It's like the hey, we
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have one more episode before the season finale. Okay, cool,
we'll tie it up there and Michael will get his money, okay,
and now we'll be ready for football. But another guy
who's on the comeback trail in a reinvention. I believe
one of the Kardashians had the Revenge Bod brand rolling
for a while that's Luka Danciz of your Los Angeles
(42:36):
Lakers now on the cover of Men's Health. Things that
I would have thought I'd only see at a carnival
a year ago, right, one of those things where I
could put myself on the magazine cover. Here I am
the man of the Year for Time Magazine. Here I
am the muscle and fitness superstar. After years of Arnold
Schwarzeneger and Luke Farigno and Lee Haney and all those
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guys of yesteryear. No, here's Luca Dacins on Men's Health,
a year after Michael Finley so famously emasculated the man
in front of his dad and.
Speaker 4 (43:07):
Took his beer.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
All these months later, he's come out the other side
and he's on Men's Health, talking about transforming his body,
the two workouts a day, what he's eating, all of
these things. Here he is lifting weights, doing the dead lift.
The road to swol was a real thing, as well
as the next giant contract extension.
Speaker 4 (43:30):
As he takes over La.
Speaker 6 (43:31):
Yeah, I mean it's you know, it's like a beer bun.
Speaker 5 (43:36):
It's like seeing a beer belly on on like a
runner on the cover of Runners World. It's like naming
a turtle lightning.
Speaker 4 (43:47):
It's like, actually done.
Speaker 5 (43:48):
You know Guy Fieri on the cover of Bonappetite magazine,
it's you know, there's there's certain faces or things in
places that don't seem like they would ever make sense.
Speaker 6 (43:59):
And by the way, that's no shade a Guy Field.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
I was gonna say, you're saying donkey sauce isn't hotf cuisine.
Speaker 6 (44:05):
Because I've tried.
Speaker 5 (44:06):
I was about to reference that I've tried the donkey sauce,
and I can say with an emphatic two thumbs up,
it is a lead.
Speaker 4 (44:14):
Can you and I meet in Vegas and go to
his place? Have you ever been there?
Speaker 6 (44:17):
Absolutely? I've been there more than once. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (44:20):
No, insane is a correct adjective of Flavor Town USA.
Speaker 6 (44:25):
No quest So. But but get back to Luca.
Speaker 5 (44:28):
I mean it just yeah, it's an oddity to see
him on this track. But here here's the thing. Here's
the thing about aging superstars. And he's not old yet,
but he's aging. You either age gracefully because you start
investing in self care and you start getting your nutrition
right and your training regime and the massage and the
(44:50):
stretch and the hyperbaric chamber and the science and technology
and the lungety or you end up aging out.
Speaker 6 (45:01):
And that's the reality.
Speaker 5 (45:03):
And I think actually one of the best things for
Luca was having to look it is so hard to
find reasons to compete at a certain point when you
have mastered something, when you are literally being considered one
of the top in your field, what's left to compete
(45:25):
with other than yourself?
Speaker 6 (45:26):
I mean, chasing titles? Of course, I get it.
Speaker 5 (45:28):
Those are highly variable because you're relying on others, not
just yourself. I mean, but he is one of the
best doing it in basketball, So what motivates you, Well,
getting you know, a swift kick to the shins and
you know kind of you know, thrown on the next thing,
smoking out of town might have been the motivation that he.
Speaker 6 (45:49):
Was looking for.
Speaker 5 (45:50):
And then pair that with being teammates with Lebron James,
who is fastidivitous about this.
Speaker 6 (45:57):
He works on his nutrition.
Speaker 5 (46:00):
And he spends you know, if not a million millions
of dollars on his health. I think all of those
were combining factors to get him on the cover of
mental health and get him to take his body as
part of his sport.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
More more seriously, I like you getting the word fastidious
in there.
Speaker 4 (46:18):
Nicely done, Lebron James.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
Also, you had some wild speculation by some folks last week.
We talked about it because Arnie Spanier was absolutely enamored
with the idea of off season training regimens and trips
and whatever. You can find the podcast wherever you download
your audio and go back down that rabbit hole. But
to your point, it's been well chronicled. Here's the money spent,
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some of the partnerships that Lebron has had in the
health and fitness world with different gadgetary et cetera. But
for Luca Donget, it's that point. You know, we were
talking a couple of weeks ago Scottie Scheffler, right, and
some took the who's this guy?
Speaker 4 (46:55):
You know?
Speaker 3 (46:56):
Shut up as you're pondering, you know, something beyond golf,
like he's great at it and clearly puts the work in.
But you're always looking for something more no matter what
your job is, right, you're never satisfied. Right, You either
want to do, if we're in radio, a better show, right,
be a little funnier, be a little smarter in sharp
(47:17):
using words like fastidious for Luca Dauchis, You're now at
that the top of the heap with a historic franchise.
Not that Dallas hasn't had its moments in the past,
but you know, it's apples and oranges. You're in glitz
and glamour of Hollywood. You've got a guy Lebron. However
long he's your teammate, the expectations get ratcheted up immensely.
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Not to mention again, no matter how many times I'll
hear an athlete or anybody in my life tell me
they don't read the comments.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
We'll do.
Speaker 4 (47:51):
I try not to.
Speaker 3 (47:53):
You get the things about your your appearance, like I
can't tell you. I was once the only time I
ever appeared on Barstool Sports was the thing where they
did four guys.
Speaker 4 (48:03):
This is what I was doing, fantasy full time.
Speaker 3 (48:05):
It's like who is the most likely to have female
companionship for a night.
Speaker 4 (48:09):
Now, I was long married at that.
Speaker 3 (48:10):
Point, but it was still the point of the only
time I ever showed up for something was because of
my physicality. Yeah, so immediately it's like, Hey, the road
to swol and we've partnered up and I looking to.
Speaker 4 (48:22):
Lean and mean for the cameras. These days.
Speaker 3 (48:24):
But it's those kind of things people saying they don't
read them, they don't respond to them. They're lying, right.
It's like no folks in our business claiming they're not fans.
You're still a fan of something, whether you root hard
for the hometown team anymore or not as a whole
other equation, but you're still a fan of sport that
brings in it For Luka Doncic, you're gonna read all
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those things where people are like, well, he'd be great
if he didn't do dot dot.
Speaker 4 (48:49):
So yeah, you get back to work.
Speaker 5 (48:52):
I think he knows that weak conditioning is the final
step between being a superstar and being a legend, because
he's witnessing that with Lebron James. I think that he
understands with an aging Lebron and a loaded West, he's
gonna need to be at his peak to help carry
the Lakers forward.
Speaker 6 (49:11):
And that's what he was traded in order to do.
Speaker 5 (49:13):
I mean Lebron James, his agency represents ad This is
a friend or at very's what we were told was
a close friend and ally of Lebron's that he shipped
off to Dallas in exchange for Luca and everybody said,
Dallas got host. Okay, fine, but the deal is you're
in La now. So however you got there, your legacy
(49:34):
is waiting. This is This is where you either take
the stamp and you fill it with ink and you start,
you know, stamping your resume for the Hall of Fame,
or you start making the argument for all of those
people bellying up to the bar in ten years talking
about the should as the kudahs and woods for your career.
(49:55):
And I think Luca understands that he's at that moment,
He's at the precipice. You're either going to fall back
down the way he came up the mountain, or you're
gonna get over the top and you're gonna start, you know,
heading down toward the land of milk and honey.
Speaker 6 (50:10):
And I think I think he again, I.
Speaker 5 (50:12):
Think this trade as sour and dour the mood may
have been at first, I think has opened.
Speaker 6 (50:21):
His eyes to a new challenge.
Speaker 5 (50:24):
And I think, I again, he's not old, but he's aging,
and I think aging superstars need to be challenged and
that and that's exactly what the doctor ordered.
Speaker 4 (50:34):
Well, everybody wants to win the breakup Rich.
Speaker 3 (50:37):
There's no question about it, right, quote, my sleeping, my body,
my everything. I felt more restored, right and going along
his journey, and certainly you speak to it, and I'll
speak for my colleague off in Detroit, mister Smith. Right,
We've we've done this thing with with work, the PhD
weight loss bit, and I sleep a bit better, my
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knees don't hurt as much. I had a better first
step when it comes time to chase down a soccer
ball when I'm fielding for my kids team before a game,
so the ball doesn't fly and screw up somebody else's game.
Speaker 4 (51:11):
The way they line up the fields is just asinine.
But that's a whole other thing.
Speaker 3 (51:14):
But you know, just equating to it all, like he
mentions in the Men's Health article, he mentions Kobe and
MJ and going down quote obviously to be the best
I could be take care of myself this year with
my team, I think we did a huge step, but
it's just the start.
Speaker 4 (51:29):
I need to keep.
Speaker 3 (51:30):
Going, can't stop. And he's a guy that I'm recognized.
He's either a headline or a punchline. What do you
want to be?
Speaker 6 (51:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (51:39):
And I mean and also the fact that you're alongside
guy like Lebron, it is a make or break moment
because like you're getting to see firsthand how longevity is
built through conditioning, You're getting to see firsthand that the Lakers,
I mean really honestly, their window for a championship is
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short and he can't be a decided week link in
all this. I mean, Anthony Davis came in there joining
Lebron James to win a championship. Well, even though a
lot of people don't count it because they were in
a bubble in Orlando, it still counts. They still have
the Larry O'Brien Trophy somewhere in that in that uh,
in that facility. And again, I think the influence of
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not just Lebron, but the relentless LA market, who's decidedly
more of a basketball town than Dallas is is, is
another motivating factor.
Speaker 6 (52:35):
I think it was a.
Speaker 5 (52:36):
Lot louder and more serious of a reaction from fans
in LA when the conditioning was questioned at the midyear
point when he joined the Lakers than it was ever
at any point in his career as a Dallas Maverick.
And so I think he had one of those you know,
come come, come to the light moments where he's like,
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oh boy, if if I want to be taken seriously here,
and I do want to be taken seriously, I better
get this right. And I again, like you said, everyone
wants to win the breakup. I think he wants to
make the Dallas Mavericks look extremely foolish from moving on
from him. But again, I can't deny for a second
it may have been the best thing for his career.
Speaker 4 (53:18):
I will say this.
Speaker 3 (53:19):
You know, I've always, you know, been asked because sports cards, memorabilia,
am I whole like, you know, what's the one piece
you want? I think I now have a new leader
in the clubhouse. I want the can of beer that
Finley took out of his hand. Oh yeah, like the
other Jersey's bats. All those things are all finding good,
no question about it. But I think that that's what
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I want. I want whatever's left of that beer can.
Speaker 5 (53:44):
I think, honestly, it's probably a part of like a Toyota,
like a like the hood of a Camry. Now it's
been recycled, it's long reccling at least one but yeah, yeah,
at least once. Yeah, if not, yeah, a reliable automobile
e the way, No question, out it, Then you got it.
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You find him on Buddy. Welcome in, oh Man. Thank
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the chair and really nice. Jason's taking a little time
to be with the fam.
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So let's rock it roll.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
We are not in any shortage of sports topics tonight,
my friend. This has been a busy weekend, a busy
start to the week. There's a lot going on. We
got preseason football getting started this Thursday.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Life's good Hall of Fame Induction weekend on the baseball side,
Hall of Fame coming up, the game between the Lions
and the Chargers, all the pomp and circumstance and pageantry
that goes along with that. But we have to start
off once again, as we've done so many times here
in the last couple of weeks. I feel like I'm
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getting chipped away at bit by bit here Rich as
we just have you heard Steve de Seger's update the
passing of Ryan Sandberg, Chicago Cub's great go back to
a bunch of magical moments talking with Frostburg about it
right as we're coming on air. As children right growing
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up in Chicago. Look, I was a White Sox fan.
But one thing that we had, and as a nation,
we had, was afternoon baseball at Wrigley Field. Because the
lights didn't come in untill nineteen eighty eight, so all
eighty one were home dates were day games, which meant
you'd finish school and you'd get home by the top
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of the third and you'd watch Harry Carey and you
grew up watching. You know, for me, this is you know,
the hallmark moment as Sandberg became the everyday guy. Go
back to eighty three and into eighty four when he
was really starting to establish himself and they have that
magical run which we'll get to the ultimate of Sandberg
highlights here in a moment, but before they met, you know,
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your padres in in the faded playoffs that that year.
But all of that to say, you know, he was
just such a staple of everything. Ten time All starred,
nine time, nine time Gold Gloves. It's in a row, right.
He was a guy that just dominated at the position.
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His fielding percentage for his career nine eighty nine, which
is just insane, or seven times Silver Schlager, nine time
Gold Glove, ten time All Star, Hall of Fame two
thousand and five.
Speaker 7 (03:33):
Die.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
He's long been battling prostate cancer and they'd made an announcement,
you know, a couple of couple of days ago, you know,
kind of backing, backing down on some of the responsibilities
and hopes that you know, he was going to be
able to be part of intriment?
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Can you believe this right?
Speaker 6 (03:49):
Me?
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Being the trading card lunatic that I am right. I
follow some of these groups and one of them is
guys that that write letters and use the.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Home addresses or whatever.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
He was still returning male as of a week ago,
No including little notes, just saying hey, thanks for the
love and support and everything all the way through. So
you know, he's He's a guy that, as my brother
called it right in an age a week where we
lost hul Cogan, we lost Ozzy Osbourne. My brother decided
to use wrestling parlance related to Ryan Sandberg as he
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was the heel of our childhood as White Sox fans,
because you were watching what was going on over at
Wrigley Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
I mean, look, he's just one of these ballplayers who
I think will always be known for, you know, quiet
leadership and some of his clutch heroics at Wrigley Field especially,
and I think he was part of an error that
really rekindled that hope that sprung eternal every spring for
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Cubs fans around that area of the country, like we know,
a cursed franchise for so long?
Speaker 6 (05:02):
What was it all? The way up until the twenty
sixteen World Series.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
You got it at sixteen, yep.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
I mean it's just it's just one of those fan
bases that have been through a ton, but him and
that crew, they really did something special to the city
of Chicago. And I think you can't mention those teams
without mentioning Harry Carey. You know you can't.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
You don't. You don't really have one without the other.
And how many.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
Calls was was carrying on when Rhino was manning second
base or at the plate. He will be missed, Like
you said, his humility and heroics continued off the baseball
diamond as a member of the community because he he cared.
Speaker 6 (05:49):
He cared about his fans. Yeah, and that's that's.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
Something that not a lot of baseball players, not a
lot of athletes unfortunately do is respond to their fans.
Speaker 6 (05:57):
But he did. That's important.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Well, look at he's also a guy that's on the
list of Hey, I retired but then decided I was
coming back, which would seemed to be a hallmark there
in Chicago as you go through. But certainly you know
with Samberg, he's also a guy that he was a
one team guy right after he came over from the Phillies.
That was it, like there was no pursuing greener pastures
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because they weren't winning. Remember the eighty four season also
marked as we get ready for the trade deadline when
Rick Sutcliffe came over in that trade that sent you know,
Joe Carter and everything like that. That he comes in
and has a monster run and then they're propelled to
that playoff run. But the hallmark game, which is either
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known as the Sandberg game or the Suitor game, depending
on where you sit on that fence, because we get
to bring in Harry Carey, the aforementioned Harry Carey, and
let's let's hear his call.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Proud just absolutely gone batty, all right.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
So this was also an NBC game, So he got
a Bob Costa's call where he goes, is this guy
really Roy Hobbs right, come to life from the natural
kind of thing. So he gets suitored twice in the
y to tie it in the ninth.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
Yeah, tied in the ninth, And did he did he
walk it off in the tenth?
Speaker 4 (07:41):
No?
Speaker 3 (07:41):
No, no, So the Cardinals score too in the tenth.
So this is June twenty third, nineteen eighty four TV
National TV audience, so you have the NBC telecast as well.
Speaker 6 (07:53):
So in the.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Ninth right he hits the home run, so it goes
nine to nine into the tenth and he hits the
two run home run to make it an eleven eleven game,
and eventually the Cubs win it. But the reaction from
sooner as he gets them the second time, full on
fist throw and if you can just go and just
imagine the worst string of expletives you can possibly put together,
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but just the jubilation at Wrigley just you know, midsummer crowd,
which is look, I've always called it the best outdoor
bar in America.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
There's no question about it.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
When Wrigley Field is going and the Cubs are playing
like playing well like they are right now, there's no
better place for ambiance.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
And especially in the in the summertime, because if I
remember correctly, that was that was a late June or
early but man, maybe it was a late July game,
but it was a summertime game.
Speaker 6 (08:50):
And the craziest.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
Thing about that game because I've seen the replay before.
As you know, I've worked many years with Steve Hartman,
and so as a baseball and all sports historian and
a member of our family here at Fox Sports Radio.
We've talked about the Samberg game more than just once,
but I digress.
Speaker 6 (09:11):
I mean that truly may have been the.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Moment that turned the Cubs eighty four season around and
led to a resurgence. And that was a special time
for baseball because if you remember, I mean, it was embattled,
you know, player labor action and things like that, but
you had these special moments that really created lifelong fans
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for fan bases like the New York Mets, the Miracle
Mets in the early eighties, this resurgence in eighty four
of the Chicago Cubs, and he was a big part
of that.
Speaker 6 (09:47):
Man, what a special time.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
To watch baseball, and what an incredible job by Harry
carry on that call.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Gosh, you had the strike of eighty one, the collusion
issues going on, and certainly again with Atlanta and Chicago,
those are the two teams you were always able to
watch on the respective superstations. One that we've talked about
a lot, going back to the Hogan story and the
rise of you know, TNT and the nWo and all
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that fun stuff WCW versus those Monday Night Wars of
wrestling for all those years. But you know, for me
growing up in Chicago, you know, there were three thousand
Cubs fans per White Sox fan and that ratio is
probably even worse today. But all of that across the
nation and baseball fans around the globe know the Cubs brand,
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the lovable losers, who you lose a little of that
once you win a World Series. But certainly Ryan Samberg
one of those best to never right because for all
of his greatness, and we've read off the accolades before,
never got to go play in the In the Fall Classic,
but gave you big moments like this here from June
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twenty third of nineteen eighty four, just a highlight that
everybody that's followed baseball has seen multiple times, heard the
Harry Carey call as.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
We played it there.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
And even as you get into Hall of Fame induction
ceremonies and looking back at the past heroes, you know,
there's always those indelible moments that are etched into the history.
And here is another one, and we celebrate Samberg passed
away today long complications with prostate cancer at the age
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of sixty five.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Yeah, yeah, man, I appreciate the battle though, because, like
many people, I've had family members succumb to the battle.
Speaker 6 (11:44):
I've had a couple overcome it, you know, And.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
Man, you just root hard when you hear that diagnosis,
regardless of what it was in this case, you know, prostate.
Many times in my own life personally, it's been breast cancer,
and you pray for those folks and their families, and
you know it's going to take a lot of will
and a lot of strength. And it did for him,
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and like you said, all the way up until last week,
returning calls and letters from people who cared about him.
Speaker 6 (12:18):
Reaching back out. Didn't need to do.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
That, but felt obliged or honored to don't. I don't
know him personally, so I don't know how he felt
about it, but either way, I love what he did.
Speaker 6 (12:33):
For the culture of sports.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
I love what he did for kids growing up during
that time, because I think that's often what's lost when
we talk about these.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
Very I don't know.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
I guess adult topics around sports is that this is
for kids. Like I mean, I remember being motivated by
the heroes on the TV, or when my folks could
scrape together enough money to bring me to an arena
or a stadium, the ones that I'm seeing on a
field or a court in front of me, Like that's
what it's all about. And you know that that Ryan Samberg.
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He motivated a lot of young kids out there to
be maybe to feel like they were more than themselves
or be better one day. And you know he will
be missed. So rest in peace to a Cub's great,
no question about it.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Go back to the eighty four MVP voting.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
He had an eight point five war, two hundred hits,
nineteen home runs, eighty four RBI, thirty two stolen bases
in a three fourteen batting average, just a magnificent, magnificent
season in the beginning of what became a Hall of
Fame run because he wasn't even a power guy at
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that point. We all know the accolades and what he
became at the position. I've long joked here on Fox
Sports Radio outside of Ryan Samberg, go back to a
lot of those National League lineups, and you can bring
in Joe and a few other guys, but generally it
was the pitcher couldn't hit, the catcher couldn't hit, and
the second baseman couldn't hit.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
But in Chicago you had.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Ryan Samberg rested peace Rhino, best to the family, friends, supporters,
and long battle for those that are battling out there.
Our thoughts and prayers and love are with you as well,
and good memories. Go watch yourself some Harry Carey highlights
as you listen to us here at Fox Sports Radio.
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Rich Hornberger in for Jason Smith at Ornburger where you
find him on Twitter. Find me over at Swollen Dome again.
Ryan Samberg passes away at the age of sixty five.
Another another piece of that little South Side Chicago upbringing
for me is gone. So we take some heart in that.
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As you mentioned Rich, you know it's a game for kids,
and in those moments we become kids again as we
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injury crisis averted or sign of trouble to come. We'll
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Speaker 5 (16:24):
Well, I will say this, I I think I can
clean up all right, but man, oh man, if they
start digging in my closet, no no, no, no, thank you,
no thank you?
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got to the hotline now talk a little National Football
League just a couple of days away from the Hall
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we're calling it today, mister Locke, and how are we
doing this evening?
Speaker 7 (17:02):
What's going on? Gentlemen? It'll always be Twitter with me.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Yeah, I refuse to uh.
Speaker 7 (17:07):
Till I got that's it?
Speaker 5 (17:09):
Yeah, yeah, same here, it's it's too tough. I mean,
you know, I mean, what were we gonna do?
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Every branding just didn't work quite so well.
Speaker 8 (17:16):
Well, so it's so clunky saying a post on X
when we used to be able to, especially Jason, a
longtime journalist, reporter, man of words, being concise and word
efficiency is so important in your trade.
Speaker 6 (17:32):
Just being able to say it's a tweet was so nice. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (17:37):
Right, No one's ever gonna be like, hey, I sent
you an X or xed you know what I mean?
I want to rex your X. I mean, that was
grow smart. I'd like to retweet your tweet, right whatever,
like I'm going to react your X like it actually
sounds kind of dirty.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Yeah, just a little bit. And that's what we're trying
to figure out. Exactly what's what's imagined in this Christian
Wilkins situation there Las Vegas Raiders. Have you been able
to make sense of it? And how many layers of
the onion do we get to peel back?
Speaker 7 (18:10):
I cannot make sense of it presently. There's obviously hr involved.
There's obviously the Raiders, I guess, kind of navigating this
duality of some air personal politics and an alleged smooths
on the forehead and then this whole idea about his rehabit,
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whether you know he's followed through on everything he needs
to follow through to at least their lawyers would see it,
you know, not violate his contract. I don't. I don't
know where the truth is exactly in all this and
how much of it is ultimately open to interpretation. I'll
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say this, whatever had like whatever data didn't happen there,
like if he's healthy and he's able to play football,
and it is you know, at at worst I guess
him violating somebody's personal space a little bit. He's going
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to have no difficulty of finding work and probably finding
work at a pretty substantial sociality. He's a whole football player.
He's not that far removed from the open market where
he did quite well. And the Raiders, like, I you know,
I see a lot of stuff out there and people
are like, oh, well, he's a different cat's this or that? Well?
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Like yeah, and the Raiders are a different franchise, Like
what the hell are the Raiders? Like what have they done? Right?
Like and if you want to summon that Pete Terrell's
been there for two point five seconds, I mean whatever,
but like, what what have they done? That's credible? Like
what have they done the last thirty years? Right? Like
the most memorable Raiders stuff of the last thirty years
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is like Al Davis pulling out a projector to like
remount Lane Kiffin. Right, It's like ridiculous statements. It's like
the Richard Seymour trade. It's it's I mean the Talk Bowl.
But that that really wasn't I can't for that. That's anything.
Maybe they can pose, but like they weren't on the
right side of it, like the idea, you know what
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I mean that the raiders are arbitures of truth and reality.
I just don't know, you know, I don't know that
they deserve the benefit of the doubt. So we're going
to have to learn more about this situation. But I
have a hard time thinking again, if it's in the
realm of what is currently in the public spector, I
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think Christian Wilkins is going to make out.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
Okay, Yeah, I mean I guess, I guess essentially, are
we looking at a mountain or an iceberg?
Speaker 6 (20:53):
You know, do we have the full story? Do we
have this right?
Speaker 7 (20:56):
I don't know?
Speaker 6 (20:58):
Or is there so much more? Like you don't know,
We don't know.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
And and but one thing all of us here know
is that the NFL and gosh, I mean, like it
or not. And I think most people would find this
part of the business somewhat detestable. I mean, the NFL
has housed, you know, men who were guilty pled guilty
of the mystic violences, abuses towards women, rape allegations, I mean,
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like the list, murder allegations. The list goes on and
on and on. And you know, as long as they're
ready for Sunday, Monday, Thursday playoff games, whatever dates they
happen to land on. There's a lot of fans and
people and and spectators who look on, and to be
perfectly honest, I'm not above it.
Speaker 6 (21:46):
I do too, you know.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
I can hold two truths in my head at the
same time, where I did watch the Joe Mixon tape,
and I also watch him rush for over a thousand
yards a bunch of times over in the end l
and have to admit that I've been impressed at times
Tyreek Hill. I mean, how many times has he had
run ins with the low you know? So look, I
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guess my point is, if the worst of this story
has already been released, Jason, I completely agree with you.
I think he's going to help a team if he's
healthy enough to. But going back to the Raiders, all
the changes they've made in a very competitive, very difficult division,
what do you make of Pete Carroll Carroll's opening salvo
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as a coach in Vegas?
Speaker 6 (22:32):
Do you think this is going to work?
Speaker 7 (22:38):
I don't. I think it's a three year chore. You know,
and I especially in that division. Mayby coach in that
division is a Hall of Famer. Every other coach in
that division seems to me to have a franchise quarterback,
or if you want to say the verdict still out
on Bonnicks, I'm going to say it's Sean Payton tells
me he's a franchise quarterback. I'm gonna take his work
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for it. But if you're not, oh, I think you
probably will be by the middle of the season. Right,
But he's lacking. He's starting from behind in a couple
of major ways. And it's not like this is you
know the NFC, Yeah, the NFC South or the AFC South,
where he could just parachute in that division and already
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have a level of expertise and acumen and a resume
that seems pretty unimpeachable compared to his peers. That's just
not the case where he finds himself now, you know,
I mean even the whole Tom Brady but all like,
is is that necessarily a good thing? Like I've never
seen someone who's an owner or you know, whether he's
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allowed to pretend to be the acting owner or whatever,
who doesn't like kind of pee all down their leg
at first. Like it's just I know, he's been around
professional sports his whole life, and a lot of these
guys whose daddies were billionaires who were born into it
and were nepo babies, like they never figured out. But
I just think it's different, man, and I don't know
too many who have made that smooth transition. And so
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even if you're going to tell me all, well, he
can protect Mark Davison this or that, I don't even
know if Tom Brady knows where all the minefields are
in terms of what he's navigating right now. So no,
I think I think it's it's kind of fought with peril,
to be honest, and Pete Terroll is only going to
approach it one way, right, It's going to always be
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about winning this next second, this next minute, this next series,
this next play. I means he's always kind of been
that way, and now he's very close to the end,
and I just don't know that they sync up with
where they are as a franchise and where he is
as a coach, And so I tend to think the
thirty years of Raiders' futility tells me this is probably
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going to be pretty futile.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Jase, we talked a lot about contracts the last couple
of weeks. When you've joined us A couple of them
still out when we look at Hendrickson, uh and Micah Parsons.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
But let's go to Cowboys camp.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
They averted a major catastrophe today with guitting it, but
it's still.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Six week injury to your left tackle.
Speaker 7 (25:15):
Yeah, and and you worry about, you know, if that's
what he's like on the other side of it, if
there's any you know, if this becomes a situation where
that that knee is robbly, you're unstable. And he's got
a lot to prove to begin with, and him missing
all this these reps is not good. Yeah, I don't
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have good vibes about the Cowboys. I have to follow
the column for the Washington Post on them today. Honestly, Uh,
it's just the same. It's just they're checking all the
boxes they always check, you know, and all that stuff
plays at the box office and it plays on the
TV ratings, but it doesn't it doesn't play in the standings.
You know. They continually take risks all character guys because
they can get them cheaper and carry's he's the vat
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the potential value and he sees how many jerseys that
guy could sell if it pans out, and this or that.
But it kind of looks like they're collection of individuals,
you know, and like they're perfect thumb unders, Like yeah,
they have enough top side, you know, high end talent
that if they get off to a fast start and
they're able to play with the lead and they can
just attack the quarterback all the time, like that's great.
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But I mean this is a team that was, like
I've seen I mean just looking at them some of
the metrics like if you look at every team in
the NFL, and how many yards they allowed before before
contact against the rush and how few yards they generated
before contact when they rushed, Like it's staggering from the
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metrics that fund when I dug more into their season,
like they're a bottom five offensive team on first down
and the bottom five defensive team are like I just
and I mean, where is the roster that much better?
You know? I just they got a forty five million
dollar quarterback. He makes sixty million dollars a year, Like,
I don't think it's it's going to work. The culture's work.
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We got four or five guys who get overpaid and
everybody else has got to beg for scraps and listen
to Jerry rip them publicly he doesn't think they're playing
up to their contractor rip them for getting hurt, Like,
I don't think that really breeds, you know, camaraderie and
cohesiveness and selflessness. And I look at their schedule and
I look at a head coach was probably over his head,
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and I say, I don't think they're gonna be frontrunner.
I think they're gonna be chasing, and they're gonna be
chasing a lot, and they're gonna be chasing even some
teams early on, like maybe the Giant, who if that
defensive front gets off, like they could muck that game up,
that could be an un game. Like, I mean, I
don't know. I don't see they're gonna be up much
better running the ball, and I don't think they can
stop the run still, So I got questions, you know,
(27:50):
like Evra Flues won't give up the big play, but
he gonna try to rain in Mike at all. I
don't buy them. I would play them under seven and
a half wings. Wow, I have played them on this
seven and a half points. I think it's I'll struggle.
Speaker 6 (28:05):
I love the motto, the team model you gave them.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
You know, they're like indelible words that are attached to franchises.
In many of them three three word monikers, you know,
the Patriot Way or the or legion of boom or
why do they move? In the case of the LA Chargers,
I know I'm using a contraction there, a cheated a
little bit, but you but collection of individuals pretty much
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sums up the past quarter century for the Dallas Cowboys.
That is perfectly stated. Jason lockin Ford joining US Fox
Sports Radio. How about the Browns. I've heard everything from
Flacco's the day one starter, to Shador Sanders the best
quarterback we've ever seen in football pads to Kenny Pickett's
the guy but ooh the injury we don't know. And
(28:52):
then I've also heard all three of them are going
to be traded at different points. So who the hell
is starting the season in Cleveland Jason Flacco?
Speaker 7 (29:00):
And I think they're keeping him under the bubble reps
because you know, they've seen what he can do there. Now.
I don't think he's going to be showing seventy yard
bombs like crazy that Mary Cooper like he did three
years ago, because I don't think they have the offensive
line for it, and they also don't have Pete Nick
Chubb there drawing the kind of attention that he did,
So they've got issues. But no, I think they're keeping
Flaco on the bubble rap because they want to ride
(29:20):
that as long as they can. But I think even
internally they know trying to ride that more than six
to eight weeks is probably feeble. So in the meantime,
they've got to get these other guys ready to play.
But facto Flaco speaks the language. Flacco has been existing
in this league for five years now, getting no reps.
You know what I mean, he doesn't need training camp.
I mean, hell, the year he took them to the playoffs,
he came up his couch and what November and practice
(29:43):
for a week and they're throwing for four hundred yards
every game. So I think they have to figure out
who these other kids are. I think Pickett was going
to be traded and the injury set that back, and so,
you know, is he still traded at some point? I
think probably, But Hammy's going to be Turkey And so
really it's about Gabriel and Sanders and repping them up
(30:04):
and again, can one of them take the baton Week eight,
Week nine, Week ten or picket's still there. You write
picket for a little while, but I don't think to
ride them for a whole half season. So it's got
to play out. It just started. But I mean, I
think the Browns probably the last team to win a
(30:25):
game in this league, like if them are the Saints,
and when I really dig down on the schedules, like
I think it might be the Browns. I don't like
them in the trenches, you know, really on I just
side of the ball and the defense can it was
you know, great at home two years ago. Even that year,
it wasn't the same on the road. There's been slippage there.
(30:46):
There's been some decay. I think they're really up against it.
And yeah, I think Flaco starts as long as you can,
but I don't think it's going to be that long
because I think he's going to heal a lot.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
He's Jason Locking for Odyssey Washington Post on a five
to seven the Fan in Baltimore. Jason, as always appreciate
you stopping by. Enjoy the Hall of Fame game. We're
almost there.
Speaker 7 (31:17):
We are almost there and almost there. Have a great night, gentlemen.
Speaker 6 (31:20):
Thank you having me be great.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Buddy, all right, on acs at and Twitter as we
originally called it there at Jason lockerfor see No I'm conditioned,
reconditioning and rebranding all the time. Appreciate Jason stopping by.
He joins us each and every week. He's also got
his Want a Bet podcast. Rich Orberger in for Jason Smith.
I'm Mike Carmon, Thanks for being with us here Fox
Sports Radio. Not stop to send it over to the
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news desk, and a legend among men, It's Steve de Seger.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
Hello, gentlemen, and the sad news.
Speaker 9 (31:48):
First stuff that Hall of Famer Ryan Sandberg passed away
at the age of sixty five. The Cub's second baseman
won nine straight Gold Gloves through nineteen ninety one, was
NLMVP of nineteen eighty four. Sandberg had had a relapse
with his prostate cancer last year and it spread to
other Organs. The Cubs and Brewers were tied for first
in the NL Central to start tonight, Milwaukee at home
(32:11):
beat the Cubs eight to four. The lost to All
Star pitcher Matthew Boyd, who was eleven and three but
allowed five runs in five innings. This evening, the Braves
are had ten to four at Kansas City and the
bottom of the ninth. Royals catcher Salvador Perez left bruce
elbow suffered at the plate hit by a pitch, and
Kansas City All Star pitcher Chris Bubach is out for
the year with a strained rotator cuff.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
The Braves have lost.
Speaker 6 (32:34):
Five in a row. Trying to end that, Atlanta.
Speaker 9 (32:37):
Acquired pitcher Carlos Carrasco from the Yankees. The Yanks lost
at home to Tampa Bay four to two, the final
for the Rays, who had lost four straight games. In
case you didn't hear, Saturday, Aaron Judge was placed on
the injured list with a strained elbow. The Dodgers were
five two winners at Cincinnati, a Reds team that had
won four straight. Reds left bases loaded in the ninth
(32:57):
Shoeotani with a two run double the win. Indo Yoshinobu
Yamamoto seven innings, nine strikeouts. Detroit a five to one
winner over Arizona. A Uhenneo Suarez of the Diamondbacks left
hit by a pitch on the hand. X Rays were negative.
Baseball's trade deadline is Thursday. Baltimore beat Toronto eleven to four.
The loss to Chris Bassett, who was eleven and four
(33:19):
this year, but in two and a third gave up
six runs. The Rockies at Cleveland game had a rain
delay at the start of about two and a half hours.
It's now bottom of the sixth. Colorado up three to
nothing on the Guardians. Cleveland closer Emmanuel Class is on
paid leave after a sports betting investigation. The Red Sox
have taken the lead four to three in the ninth
(33:39):
at the Twins, and they've just gone to a rain
delay before the bottom of the ninth inning. The tarp
is on the field. Angels lead Texas to nothing in
the top of the fifth. No hits for the Rangers,
yet Texas has won six in a row. The Mets
have won seventh straight. They're leading one nothing at San
Diego in the top of the third. Pirates are ahead
four to three at the Giants top of the third.
(34:00):
Mariners lead at the A's that is, won nothing at.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
The end of two innings.
Speaker 9 (34:05):
And we do have the NFL news to pass along
that there was an injury at Dallas Cowboys camp today.
Tackle Tyler Geiden was hurt, originally feared to be a
torn acl but no, did not tear it but reportedly
will miss four to six weeks. The Colts gave tackle
Bernard Rayman a four year extension. The Broncos gave wide
receiver Courtland Sutton a four year extension. WNBA wins for
(34:29):
Dallas and Seattle. And in women's soccer, a Copa America
semifinal has just ended on FS one. Columbia eliminates Argentina
on penalty kicks. Argentina had been four to zero in
this tournament. Tuesday night semi on FS one, we'll at
Brazil against Uruguay the finalist Saturday.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Back to you, Thanks so much. Steve Disager at the
news desk with us tonight. Hey, your next success can
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e DU and coming up next, on the heels of
the question posed in the ponderance of the Cleveland Browns
(35:10):
quartered and back quarterbacking situation, Doctor Rich is going to
explain to us how we're supposed to assess writers from
training camp. Is it the best of times or the
worst of times.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
Stay with us. We're just getting warmed up here.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Welcome back in Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show with Me,
Mike Carmon. No, Jason Smithy'll be back later on in
the week. Tonight, we've got doctor Rich Hornberger live from
San Diego with us here, our.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Teammate long time in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Part of Countdown on Saturday mornings, getting you ready for
the day's action. Ramping up towards more TV radio and
chaos with San Diego State and his kids now getting
ready to just take over the across and football worlds. Yes,
maybe tag team wrestling. I don't know a little bit
of everything, but you know what, well, I mean, they're
(36:09):
gotta be sizeable. Maybe they'll start teaming up and taking
you down soon enough.
Speaker 6 (36:13):
Dude, they're large humans. Yeah, I got my work cut
out for me.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
We were traveling off the weekend and carrying them through
the airport is almost almost a no go at this point.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Yeah, don't skip leg day, baby, That's what it's all about.
Right now, All right, time for the player that day
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Speaker 7 (36:43):
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Speaker 3 (36:43):
They just had the Hall of Fame induction ceremonies. Plenty
of people asked about Ryan Sandberg wasn't able to be
there with his you know, his Hall teammates for for
lack of a better term, Wade Boggs talking to our
own John John Moros, who joins each and every week, quote,
he's my classmate, said take care of him, Lord, and
(37:04):
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we played the first home run. Now it's time to
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should be. We'll hear more remembrances of Ryan Sandberg. Circle
back to that a little bit later. I'm seeing highlights
and old footage giving me chills, going back to a
childhood running home from school, raiding the refrigerator, and then
watching those games. But I got to ask you, Rich
a lot of stuff with training camps. We've got all
(38:28):
the contract hold in hold out, trying to find major
dollars along the way, and then every injury report might
be the season ender, might be the career ender. Oh
it might just be a ripped fingernail. But we also
have the best of time worst of times in terms
of day to day fluidity for the quarterback position. We
(38:50):
talk about Cleveland and Shador Sanders. One day he's getting cut,
the next day he's on on path to a Hall
of Fame career. How am I supposed to read through
the beat writers rhetoric?
Speaker 6 (39:02):
Here's the deal.
Speaker 5 (39:03):
I want everybody to try to remember what it was
like to.
Speaker 6 (39:08):
Practice, because it's really difficult.
Speaker 5 (39:10):
Like look, practice is not something we often do as adults.
We go to work, we have good work days, we
have bad work days. I guess occasionally you might practice
a conversation you want to have if it's particularly important
with your boss. You might kind of talk to yourself
on the road, you know, while you're white knuckling traffic,
(39:32):
you might review some of the things you might want
to say when you're asking for that race.
Speaker 6 (39:35):
But not a lot of people remember what practice is like.
Speaker 5 (39:38):
But practice you literally try to fail so that you
don't fail in the game. So when you have failures
at practice, those are good moments because they're learning moments.
When you have successes at practice, they can be good moments,
but they also could be expected moments. So I guess
my point is you cannot fall in love with the
(39:58):
results of practice. Yeah, Shador had a great day today,
but guess what, He's gonna have a rough day tomorrow,
or the next day or the next day. It all
comes out in the wash. It's about getting better and
seeing improvement. Is it a good thing that Shador Sanders
has had a good game or a good day at practice?
Speaker 6 (40:14):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (40:15):
Is it?
Speaker 5 (40:15):
Everything doesn't mean he's gonna be, you know, the next
Elite mobile quarterback taking over the NFL, like Jayden Daniels
probably not. You know, it's probably gonna settle somewhere in between.
So I would say, pump your brakes on the heavy
expectations and the heavy breathing you see around Twitter or
the artist formerly known as Twitter now named Ax.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
Yeah, because in Chicago they were gripping the other day
as Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams weren't quite seeing eye
to eye and what he was trying to call and
how it was executed.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
But day to day you try.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
To find those wins along the way, and it gives
us more to talk about the great successes and the
great failures. Rich Ohnberger for Jason Smith, not Mike Carbon
coming out next. You know, Rich, if he keeps carrying
Hiss through the airport, he might be on the cover
of Men's Health. That would put him in company with
a guy who's retooled. Welter cadd from the situation or
extricated himself, depending on whose story you believe, or was
(41:11):
it a mutual parting of the way, because whenever you
hear the mutual breakup, you don't believe it all. Right,
which side called it right? Which side? You know the
made the call? But ever since then, right you were
able to go through the last bits, you won another
super Bowl. Fantastic. Jerry got to pat himself on the back.
The problem is that made him believe that he was
(41:32):
absolutely right in what he was doing. And then year
after year, my ex's father told me many years ago,
residing in the Dallas area, we're never winning again so
long as he's here. Either sell the team or you know,
going to the inevitable end of things some years later.
(41:52):
Either way, it's a great pr run for us every
year here at Fox Sports Radio. We appreciate the Dallas
Cowboys and the clown show that they can be from
time to time. But once again we're in that usual
dance with a superstar that eventually he's gonna get his money.
It's just how long can you draw it out to
keep the audiences with you. It's like the hey, we
(42:14):
have one more episode before the season finale. Okay, cool,
we'll tie it up there and Michael will get his money, okay,
and now we'll be ready for football. But another guy
who's on the comeback trail in a reinvention. I believe
one of the Kardashians had the Revenge Bod brand rolling
for a while that's Luka Danciz of your Los Angeles
(42:36):
Lakers now on the cover of Men's Health. Things that
I would have thought I'd only see at a carnival
a year ago, right, one of those things where I
could put myself on the magazine cover. Here I am
the man of the Year for Time Magazine. Here I
am the muscle and fitness superstar. After years of Arnold
Schwarzeneger and Luke Farigno and Lee Haney and all those
(42:58):
guys of yesteryear. No, here's Luca Dacins on Men's Health,
a year after Michael Finley so famously emasculated the man
in front of his dad and.
Speaker 4 (43:07):
Took his beer.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
All these months later, he's come out the other side
and he's on Men's Health, talking about transforming his body,
the two workouts a day, what he's eating, all of
these things. Here he is lifting weights, doing the dead lift.
The road to swol was a real thing, as well
as the next giant contract extension.
Speaker 4 (43:30):
As he takes over La.
Speaker 6 (43:31):
Yeah, I mean it's you know, it's like a beer bun.
Speaker 5 (43:36):
It's like seeing a beer belly on on like a
runner on the cover of Runners World. It's like naming
a turtle lightning.
Speaker 4 (43:47):
It's like, actually done.
Speaker 5 (43:48):
You know Guy Fieri on the cover of Bonappetite magazine,
it's you know, there's there's certain faces or things in
places that don't seem like they would ever make sense.
Speaker 6 (43:59):
And by the way, that's no shade a Guy Field.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
I was gonna say, you're saying donkey sauce isn't hotf cuisine.
Speaker 6 (44:05):
Because I've tried.
Speaker 5 (44:06):
I was about to reference that I've tried the donkey sauce,
and I can say with an emphatic two thumbs up,
it is a lead.
Speaker 4 (44:14):
Can you and I meet in Vegas and go to
his place? Have you ever been there?
Speaker 6 (44:17):
Absolutely? I've been there more than once. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (44:20):
No, insane is a correct adjective of Flavor Town USA.
Speaker 6 (44:25):
No quest So. But but get back to Luca.
Speaker 5 (44:28):
I mean it just yeah, it's an oddity to see
him on this track. But here here's the thing. Here's
the thing about aging superstars. And he's not old yet,
but he's aging. You either age gracefully because you start
investing in self care and you start getting your nutrition
right and your training regime and the massage and the
(44:50):
stretch and the hyperbaric chamber and the science and technology
and the lungety or you end up aging out.
Speaker 6 (45:01):
And that's the reality.
Speaker 5 (45:03):
And I think actually one of the best things for
Luca was having to look it is so hard to
find reasons to compete at a certain point when you
have mastered something, when you are literally being considered one
of the top in your field, what's left to compete
(45:25):
with other than yourself?
Speaker 6 (45:26):
I mean, chasing titles? Of course, I get it.
Speaker 5 (45:28):
Those are highly variable because you're relying on others, not
just yourself. I mean, but he is one of the
best doing it in basketball, So what motivates you, Well,
getting you know, a swift kick to the shins and
you know kind of you know, thrown on the next thing,
smoking out of town might have been the motivation that he.
Speaker 6 (45:49):
Was looking for.
Speaker 5 (45:50):
And then pair that with being teammates with Lebron James,
who is fastidivitous about this.
Speaker 6 (45:57):
He works on his nutrition.
Speaker 5 (46:00):
And he spends you know, if not a million millions
of dollars on his health. I think all of those
were combining factors to get him on the cover of
mental health and get him to take his body as
part of his sport.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
More more seriously, I like you getting the word fastidious
in there.
Speaker 4 (46:18):
Nicely done, Lebron James.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
Also, you had some wild speculation by some folks last week.
We talked about it because Arnie Spanier was absolutely enamored
with the idea of off season training regimens and trips
and whatever. You can find the podcast wherever you download
your audio and go back down that rabbit hole. But
to your point, it's been well chronicled. Here's the money spent,
(46:40):
some of the partnerships that Lebron has had in the
health and fitness world with different gadgetary et cetera. But
for Luca Donget, it's that point. You know, we were
talking a couple of weeks ago Scottie Scheffler, right, and
some took the who's this guy?
Speaker 4 (46:55):
You know?
Speaker 3 (46:56):
Shut up as you're pondering, you know, something beyond golf,
like he's great at it and clearly puts the work in.
But you're always looking for something more no matter what
your job is, right, you're never satisfied. Right, You either
want to do, if we're in radio, a better show, right,
be a little funnier, be a little smarter in sharp
(47:17):
using words like fastidious for Luca Dauchis, You're now at
that the top of the heap with a historic franchise.
Not that Dallas hasn't had its moments in the past,
but you know, it's apples and oranges. You're in glitz
and glamour of Hollywood. You've got a guy Lebron. However
long he's your teammate, the expectations get ratcheted up immensely.
(47:40):
Not to mention again, no matter how many times I'll
hear an athlete or anybody in my life tell me
they don't read the comments.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
We'll do.
Speaker 4 (47:51):
I try not to.
Speaker 3 (47:53):
You get the things about your your appearance, like I
can't tell you. I was once the only time I
ever appeared on Barstool Sports was the thing where they
did four guys.
Speaker 4 (48:03):
This is what I was doing, fantasy full time.
Speaker 3 (48:05):
It's like who is the most likely to have female
companionship for a night.
Speaker 4 (48:09):
Now, I was long married at that.
Speaker 3 (48:10):
Point, but it was still the point of the only
time I ever showed up for something was because of
my physicality. Yeah, so immediately it's like, Hey, the road
to swol and we've partnered up and I looking to.
Speaker 4 (48:22):
Lean and mean for the cameras. These days.
Speaker 3 (48:24):
But it's those kind of things people saying they don't
read them, they don't respond to them. They're lying, right.
It's like no folks in our business claiming they're not fans.
You're still a fan of something, whether you root hard
for the hometown team anymore or not as a whole
other equation, but you're still a fan of sport that
brings in it For Luka Doncic, you're gonna read all
(48:45):
those things where people are like, well, he'd be great
if he didn't do dot dot.
Speaker 4 (48:49):
So yeah, you get back to work.
Speaker 5 (48:52):
I think he knows that weak conditioning is the final
step between being a superstar and being a legend, because
he's witnessing that with Lebron James. I think that he
understands with an aging Lebron and a loaded West, he's
gonna need to be at his peak to help carry
the Lakers forward.
Speaker 6 (49:11):
And that's what he was traded in order to do.
Speaker 5 (49:13):
I mean Lebron James, his agency represents ad This is
a friend or at very's what we were told was
a close friend and ally of Lebron's that he shipped
off to Dallas in exchange for Luca and everybody said,
Dallas got host. Okay, fine, but the deal is you're
in La now. So however you got there, your legacy
(49:34):
is waiting. This is This is where you either take
the stamp and you fill it with ink and you start,
you know, stamping your resume for the Hall of Fame,
or you start making the argument for all of those
people bellying up to the bar in ten years talking
about the should as the kudahs and woods for your career.
(49:55):
And I think Luca understands that he's at that moment,
He's at the precipice. You're either going to fall back
down the way he came up the mountain, or you're
gonna get over the top and you're gonna start, you know,
heading down toward the land of milk and honey.
Speaker 6 (50:10):
And I think I think he again, I.
Speaker 5 (50:12):
Think this trade as sour and dour the mood may
have been at first, I think has opened.
Speaker 6 (50:21):
His eyes to a new challenge.
Speaker 5 (50:24):
And I think, I again, he's not old, but he's aging,
and I think aging superstars need to be challenged and
that and that's exactly what the doctor ordered.
Speaker 4 (50:34):
Well, everybody wants to win the breakup Rich.
Speaker 3 (50:37):
There's no question about it, right, quote, my sleeping, my body,
my everything. I felt more restored, right and going along
his journey, and certainly you speak to it, and I'll
speak for my colleague off in Detroit, mister Smith. Right,
We've we've done this thing with with work, the PhD
weight loss bit, and I sleep a bit better, my
(50:58):
knees don't hurt as much. I had a better first
step when it comes time to chase down a soccer
ball when I'm fielding for my kids team before a game,
so the ball doesn't fly and screw up somebody else's game.
Speaker 4 (51:11):
The way they line up the fields is just asinine.
But that's a whole other thing.
Speaker 3 (51:14):
But you know, just equating to it all, like he
mentions in the Men's Health article, he mentions Kobe and
MJ and going down quote obviously to be the best
I could be take care of myself this year with
my team, I think we did a huge step, but
it's just the start.
Speaker 4 (51:29):
I need to keep.
Speaker 3 (51:30):
Going, can't stop. And he's a guy that I'm recognized.
He's either a headline or a punchline. What do you
want to be?
Speaker 6 (51:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (51:39):
And I mean and also the fact that you're alongside
guy like Lebron, it is a make or break moment
because like you're getting to see firsthand how longevity is
built through conditioning, You're getting to see firsthand that the Lakers,
I mean really honestly, their window for a championship is
(52:00):
short and he can't be a decided week link in
all this. I mean, Anthony Davis came in there joining
Lebron James to win a championship. Well, even though a
lot of people don't count it because they were in
a bubble in Orlando, it still counts. They still have
the Larry O'Brien Trophy somewhere in that in that uh,
in that facility. And again, I think the influence of
(52:24):
not just Lebron, but the relentless LA market, who's decidedly
more of a basketball town than Dallas is is, is
another motivating factor.
Speaker 6 (52:35):
I think it was a.
Speaker 5 (52:36):
Lot louder and more serious of a reaction from fans
in LA when the conditioning was questioned at the midyear
point when he joined the Lakers than it was ever
at any point in his career as a Dallas Maverick.
And so I think he had one of those you know,
come come, come to the light moments where he's like,
(52:57):
oh boy, if if I want to be taken seriously here,
and I do want to be taken seriously, I better
get this right. And I again, like you said, everyone
wants to win the breakup. I think he wants to
make the Dallas Mavericks look extremely foolish from moving on
from him. But again, I can't deny for a second
it may have been the best thing for his career.
Speaker 4 (53:18):
I will say this.
Speaker 3 (53:19):
You know, I've always, you know, been asked because sports cards, memorabilia,
am I whole like, you know, what's the one piece
you want? I think I now have a new leader
in the clubhouse. I want the can of beer that
Finley took out of his hand. Oh yeah, like the
other Jersey's bats. All those things are all finding good,
no question about it. But I think that that's what
(53:40):
I want. I want whatever's left of that beer can.
Speaker 5 (53:44):
I think, honestly, it's probably a part of like a Toyota,
like a like the hood of a Camry. Now it's
been recycled, it's long reccling at least one but yeah, yeah,
at least once. Yeah, if not, yeah, a reliable automobile
e the way, No question, out it, Then you got it.
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.