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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, welcome in side, Happy Monday, and it is a
happy Monday. It is well because there was a group
called Happy Mondays. Remember Happy Mondays had a big hit
like in the had one big hit like in the
late eighties, the Happy Mondays. I can't say that, happy mom.
Don't ask me the song, but I remember. I think
the beginning of the video is someone talking in Japanese

(00:24):
and they're tired, and then and then if you finished
by saying happy Mondays, and then the Happy Mondays has
a song interesting, Happy Mondays Happy. How We're gonna have
to look this up. That's a great name for a man. Yeah,
what do you got, frost perers? A happy Monday? What
you call going through the drive through at McDonald's. Oh dude,
that's happy any day. That is a happy any day.
But it's happy Monday because the Mets are beating the
Phillies ten three. But you cheated, happy mind. No, there

(00:48):
is no cheating. There is no cheating going on. Stop
tagging everybody with that. That's not that's not happening. No cheating.
And if we do need to cheat, you see how
bad we've been. I'm okay with the cheating for you
win a game or two. Well, but I mean the
big blow would have come after any adjustments were made,
so you tried to gain an advantage. Maybe you did,

(01:09):
but it was neutralized as to how you were replacing
parabolic microphones around and causing issues. And then you had
the three run homer. After you complain, it's like, oh,
you gotta have a better You got a sacrifice fly yeah,
to give you an added insurance run late, and you
were still complaining. I'm like, he got you the run home.

(01:30):
What do you want?

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Oh you're right, dude, you're right man, you're absolutely run on.
You're absolute right. So okay, like I said, the cheating
if it, but I mean they've sucked for weeks on end,
and all of a sudden, you're beating the Phillies and
taking care of business. You get a terrible strike, a
third strike call against Bryce Harper, which I would have
been tapping my helmet immediately. Uh yeah, come on, come on,
and he went down and then took the the l

(01:55):
on that one. And then you have the big three
run blow to make it a ten to three game,
and you're still not happy. No, I say, I'm not happy.
I'm very house wise happy mondays Man, Happy mondays Still
trying to figure out who that happy mondays Man. We're good.
Sprout is on the way, Jonah is on the way.
Sever kusman, it's good. But now he's he sat there
justin before we we came into the studio and he

(02:18):
was rattling up all these names of double A and
Triple A pitchers and guys coming back. He's got hope again, thought,
But but he's going back. He's buying back in Frostburg.
That's the thing I'm dealing. You can only buy back
in if we if we let him. But either that

(02:38):
or just start saying I'm always back. I've always been in.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
A certain.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Guy stuff. There's day just like anybody has in a
relationship where hey, maybe there's a day or two or
a couple of times, Hey, you know what, maybe we're
not in sync today. And like I told you about
the time that I left Pam sunroof opening it rained
and she said, let's not talk today, And I was like,
I understand that that really was only a one day.
It was a one day thing. We were supposed to

(03:06):
be together, That's why. But like there's certain times, but
you know, just just you're not just you know, you
dumping out the entire relationship, right, It's like, Okay, certain
days are a little bit more tougher than the other,
but it shows you the relationship and how strong this
has been a fifty year relationship I've had with the Mets.
A lot of ups and downs, a lot of downs,
mostly downs, a lot of bad times again sometimes relationship.

(03:27):
I don't know why I'm in it as long as
I am, but now I'm feeling pretty good. The Mets
are killing the Phillies, two young star pitchers are on
the way. Generation K and twenty twenty five is here again,
and I'm all right, you know what we're gonna need
to do. Though for us, it's just like we did
with that last run of generational pictures from the Mets.
We're gonna have to walk him through it. Oh, it

(03:49):
didn't work out great. The last Generation K were well, no,
but that was that was what they were supposed to be,
all those guys the Dark Night and yeah, like we
combined the Marvel and see us. Supposedly, it's a lot
of supposed to be supposed to be. And now we'll
get to supposed to be in a second. But I
do want to say this, You want to hot take
right off the bat and want of Frostberg your greatest

(04:10):
favorite players of all time. So tonight cal Rawley hit
his fiftieth home run of the year for the Marinis. Right,
fifty home runs by a catcher. And we're in the
middle of August, okay, or I always try to say,
we're in the latter stages of August. But we still
have a few days left to go, right, we still
got six days left another week basically, And he's got
fifty home runs, he's got one hundred and seven RBIs

(04:32):
right now now he's hitting two fifty. But okay, when
it's all said and done, Okay, you want to talk
about seeing history. Cal Raley is going to have the
second best season by a catcher in the history of baseball,
behind Mike Piazza's nineteen ninety seven when he hit three
seventy forty home runs and one hundred and twenty five
RBI like that, no matter how you want to And

(04:54):
I think his war was like nine or ten or
something insane like that. But you look at the great season,
you know, seasons by catchers throughout history. Okay, this is
gonna be something else, he's gonna hit sixty home runs, right,
Like that's he's good. By the time he's done, he's
gonna sixt year. One's gonna knock in one hundred and
twenty five one hundred and thirty runs. Yeah, he's gonna
hit two fifty ish, But you're talking about sixty and

(05:15):
one hundred and thirty RBIs like Piazza. Yeah, he's gonna
have more home runs and a couple more RBIs Piazza,
But Piazza is gonna hundred point higher. So I can't
sit here and say, okay, but second best season all
time behind Piazza in ninety seven. That's how good a
year that that's the historic year that cal Rawly is having.
Go back to some of the greats of all time,
and immediately you go back to some of the seasons

(05:37):
Hovey Lopez had, Johnny Bench obviously a forty five home
run season back in nineteen seventy or home runs, and
certainly the catching position, right, and that's the thing, like
the weight that you put on the position through the years.
We talked about it, the passing of Ryan Sandberg h
and the dearth of big time hitting second second baseman.

(05:59):
That we have Probagion, Oh yes, basically am and Joe Morgan, right,
and a bunch of guys. Otherwise it was an out
in the lineup catching position, the same thing, Johnny Bench
being like an outlier, and then Piazza coming along, and
you had a few guys through the years, no question.
But what cal Raley's been able to do night in,
night out, it's the did he homer tonight? Did that

(06:20):
website go up for this season yet? As cal Homber
tonight Homer? Yeah, So now we've you have fifty home runs,
the MVP odds getting shorter by the day for Aaron
Judge right now still the favorite at sixty six percent
implied odds and by the end of tonight, and I'm
gonna guess that gets a little bit more in the

(06:42):
cal Raley books as we go. So it's curious to
watch that on a nightly basis as well. I mean,
the fifty is a big number, and it's the kind
of again, when you're talking about a sixty one to
thirty type year that he's gonna wind up having. Yeah,
but batting average is not what it used to be.
Like batting average twenty thirty years ago. It was everything.
But but I can't, I can't. I can't discount Piazza

(07:04):
hitting three seven, No man, and Piazza had the back acne.
Come on, he did he did? He did? He did?
He did. I was waiting, waiting to address that, that
elephant in the room as it was.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
That ball.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
I think it's in the catcher's glove. Nope, but sailing
in the right field scene, How did he do that?
I don't understand. It was Oh, that's stress. Yes he was,
That's right, he was, he was, And then he remembered
the end of his career. He tried to eat. He
wasn't good enough to catch anymore, like the beginning of
the World Baseball Classic, and he tried to play for Italy. Yeah,
he was like, hey, I think I can get on

(07:38):
the field if I play for Italy. So I'm gonna
go and pretend Tom you know, no, I'm iteal you now, everybody,
I'm his Last night's Piazza. He dressed, he dressed like
he was straight out of supermarket. And then he bought
a soccer club at one point, Yes, yes, and all
of those things. So yeah, I mean there's a lot
going on, but that is I mean that is something
you want to talk about seeing history and seeing a

(07:58):
season that's just I mean, it's it's it sucks because
it's on the West Coast. Most of the games are late,
and you know, you read about it more. You still
see the hollyge you still get it, but you don't
get it as much as because you know, cal Rally's
not a not a Yankee, he's not a Dodger, he's
not a Philly and his games are late at night
you kind of read about the next day. So there's
a little bit of a down. You know, it's not

(08:19):
as it's not as big a deal in the in
the public main France.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Up.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
Here's another home run for for cal Rally, another home run.
But I mean, really, he's gonna go down second best
season by a catcher ever in I mean in the
history of baseball. I mean that that's the kind of
YE mean, say, I mean sixty, He's gonna have sixty
home Now, Now something's gonna happen. He's not gonna play,
He's gonna get into some kind of contract dispute and
say I'm not playing again until I get all this money.
But I mean he's gonna I mean sixty home runs

(08:44):
for a catcher six? Was that your way of obliquely
getting the w NBA lockout in? Man? How about that
for you? I mean that's that's something, But I mean
also a switch hitter like that's the other part to it. Right.
It's one thing one side of the plate. But you know,
a little bit of national run during the All Star
Game and the home run Derby and all of that

(09:05):
fun stuff, so you start putting a little bit of
a spotlight on him. He's on a squad that certainly
we pay attention to we're on air in these West
Coast games. And the tag team battle that he's got
going to Julio Rodriguez getting his swing back and power
numbers up the second half of the year. It's made
for great theater. And when you've got a nickname like

(09:27):
the Big Dumper, I mean it's good for everybody. I mean,
look already most signing toilet seats for crying out. Well,
I'd sign out. I mean, i'd sign anything. Hey how
much twenty five bucks? I'm yeah, sure, here you go.
Whatever whatever you got right there, whatever you have, awesome,
gotta find every angle man, take every dollar off the
table that you can. I mean, it really is. I mean,
just to think about that kind of season that he

(09:49):
is having and and for the Mariners, it's like, Okay,
we really got to make a run here, right, Like,
we can't sit back and have the season go to waste.
I mean, well, I mean, he's never gonna have a
year like this a guy. I mean, look, you know,
I mean he's a terrific player, but this obviously it's
a career year for him. It's like, we can't, we
can't waste this thing, man, we gotta we gotta make
a run here. It's too bad that Kyle Schwarber isn't

(10:10):
still a catcher because him and the big dumper getting
after it. Come on, well, wait, wouldn't wouldn't Shwarber just
have to play like one inning of one game. He's
still a catcher. I'm a catcher. That's a catcher, always
a catcher. I'm a catcher. I'm a catcher again. You
want to talk about we look for a folk heroes, right,
I mean, that's it. And you gotta break through and

(10:31):
and cut through the noise. And that's why I bring
Schwarber up because he was a folk hero in Chicago
and he was a Catcher once upon a time. For
cal Rawley, we'll see how long he's behind the plate.
But we we get used to Otani and Judge and
back in the day Trout and mentioned Julio Rodriguez. You
look at Bobby Witt junior in case. You've got this

(10:52):
group of guys, and it's good to see other guys
break through, is all I'm trying to say. And cal
Raley being able to do that this year with a
fifty Burger coming off very strong twenty four fifty campaign
a Hamburger. But we'll deal with that in due time. Now,
I want to ask you this. You gotta you have to.
You have to text our buddy Todd Firm in Vegas offics. Yeah,
about this parlay that I want for the season. What

(11:17):
kind of odds are going in this parlay A L
N N L m vps cal Rawley and Kyle Schwarber. Okay,
I want the I want the parlay on both of
them for m VP sending. Now, yeah, I want to
see what that is, because that's something where I'm like, ooh, yeah,
I could see myself saying, oh, you know a little bit,
it's not It might not be the worst thing. In

(11:38):
the world Kyle Schwarber and Cal Raley for m v P.
Let's go that as uh, if you asked this about
three weeks ago, you would have gotten some really good odds. Yeah,
well that's nice. I still think I'm gonna get odds.
I think it's I'm gonna I'm gonna get odds that
are okay. I don't think they're okay. All right, send
me out there, we go, all right, Yeah, buddy and buddy. Yeah,

(12:00):
so we got that. Because as as of earlier today
this is off the Fox sports dot com site, Schwarber's
still at plus sixteen. Yeah. Yeah, but he's still a
month left. Pretty amazing, I mean, because has been good. Yeah,
it's good. The diet, forty five forty six home runs
and batting averages, dip the bit, striking out every other

(12:21):
plate appearance in the right bad I should say, in
the last month. But celebrating after that home run yesterday, certainly,
and then today he couldn't line up fast enough to
meet the guy from BTS. Oh yeah, no, is he
in that movie? Because the movie The Demon Demon Hunters?
Now is that movie about a K pop band that
kills demons? I think so? Is that what it is

(12:41):
because I saw the title. Oh, that's got to be
what it is. Yeah, they did well, they did it
in theaters. Yeah, but it's on Netflix. Yeah yeah yeah,
so is it?

Speaker 3 (12:48):
So?

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Is it so?

Speaker 1 (12:49):
But is it the people from BTS that are actually
killing the demons? That would be something? Okay, cosplay is them?

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Hey?

Speaker 1 (12:56):
What did you say? Mary mac is like cosplaying them? Oh,
it's cosplaying them. Have you seen the movie? Oh? Okay,
wye saw it? All right? When K pop superstars, yeah,
aren't selling out stadions or topping the billboard charts. Their
moonlighting as demon hunters protect their fans from ever present
supernatural danger. I'd watch that. I can see them get
on board this. I can see the meeting in Hollywood.

(13:17):
You know that Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter didn't do too bad. Yeah,
we didn't spend any money on that. What if we
capitalize on the whole big K pop thing?

Speaker 4 (13:25):
Now?

Speaker 1 (13:25):
Yeah? What, we haven't killed demons?

Speaker 2 (13:26):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (13:27):
Hey, I like that. I like that. Let's let's get
that out. You got a script. I don't really have
a script, as more of it's an idea. Doesn't matter.
We'll start shooting tomorrow. Get your guys, you're ready. We're ready.
We don't need a script. We'll just sort of go
and fly by the seat of our pasts. All right.
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Speaker 4 (15:22):
It's kind of how it goes now because it's his
impression has come back to me where it's now was
a little bit higher, but now you know, being over eighty.
Now it's down and really low. So now, really it
sounds like me could just be me. They could say, hey, Jason,
you be the AI Jerry Jones, and I'd be the
AI Jerry Jones. What do you think about that? What

(15:44):
do you think about that?

Speaker 2 (15:45):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (15:45):
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Speaker 2 (16:08):
Happy Monday, A happy Monday to you guys as well.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
So, uh, now we're getting close to cut down day
and obviously we saw a big well my big prediction
of the Brown starting five quarterbacks as years out the
window because they trade Kenny Pickett to the Raiders.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
Is there a big thing to take away from this
as far as how they feel about Gabriel and Sanders
or is this just hey, you know they had five
guys and now they got three.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Yeah, I mean I think we've talked about this in
the past. I expected, you know, Picket to be traded
when they drafted the two kids. That really didn't make
any sense to have him there. There's not enough high
end upside with him to start him right away. Right
that was always going to be black. Oh, I told
you guys that. And so once the draft plays out

(16:55):
like it does, do you really need a young ish
veteran there with it upside as well? It didn't make sense.
The trade might have happened sooner if not for his injuries.
And Watson isn't really a thing and isn't going to
play football this year. And you know, Snoop Huntley was

(17:16):
a get us over guy while they were running out
of body. So I think it's now back to what
will probably be a much more traditional setup. And I
think all three probably have to play this year because
I don't think they can run the ball. I don't
think it's a particularly good offensive line anymore. I mean,

(17:38):
we were they three and fourteen last year. I think
they lost their final six games. It's going to be
a slog and uphill climb and it'll probably be all
hands on deck at the quarterback position.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
What'd you make of all the noise coming out of
the final preseason game, the two minute drill, and the
fact that Snowpuntley gets the call. I didn't think the
as much to be said of the you know, do
you gave him no chance and all of that, but
he was going to go work magic in the final
two minutes. It made for a very interesting forty eight hours.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
Well, I just think people like I don't know, if
they don't have anything else going on, like they don't
have interest outside of football. There's just no sense of
perspective with this. I mean, it seems like anything that's
remotely correlated to sure Door Sanders just going to create

(18:33):
outsized reactions. And then if it's things that are tangentially
related to him, like whatever Dylan Gabriel does, then anything
it touches, I guess we'll also have an equal reaction.
And it will also be just, you know, everything sort
of taken to extremes. Like these kids barely played NFL football.

(18:58):
It's going to be a growing process for both of them.
They both had moments where they looked really good, obviously
Gabriel more than Sadora Sanders, and that's going to happen
young quarterbacks who are going to look you know, good
to terrible and awfully wildly in their production from week
to week in the regular season, let alone the preseason.

(19:21):
I mean, like, you know, Sam Darnold got fifty five
million guaranteed, are we sure we know exactly what he
is now? You know what I mean? Like Daniel Jones
goes from getting big money from the Giants to we'll
see how long he last running the Colts. Like it?
I just think it's it's tough man. Like I said,

(19:43):
I think all three quarterbacks are going to play there,
and maybe some quarterback who's not on their roster right now,
or they cut Snoop but then Snoop has to come
back or whatever. But it's preseason football. It's two you know,
it's a late basically late round quarterbacks who were low risk,

(20:05):
high ish upside developmental place and so they're they're you know,
they're going to look like that. And when they look
better than that, some people will go overboard. And when
they look bad, I guess people will go overboard. But
it's going to be flat though, I think at least
for four, six, eight weeks whatever. So maybe this will

(20:25):
now sort of die down. I hope so because I'm
sick of talking about it.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
Jason Locking for our guest here The Jason Smith Show
with Mike Carbon. Okay, so we saw two big contract
sit ins Holden's come to come to an end today.
Terry McLaurin gets a big bag from the Commanders and
Trey Hendrickson gets fourteen million dollars more for this year.
Now I look at this, Jay and I go, wow,
this is one of those days you got to stop

(20:51):
and say, Okay, the Bengals did it right because they
gave a thirty year old player money for this year,
whereas the commander said, yeah, we're going to give you
an extension that kicks in on your thirty one. I'm like, wow.
Not many days I say, boy, the Bengals really got
it right. But I feel like they really got it
more right than the Commanders did.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
Well. I guess what I don't understand is, well, why
did it have to come to this for either of
these Sure like, if these teams were willing to do,
if you were willing to basically make Hendrickson hole for
one year, I think you might have been able to
avoid a lot of headaches in the Airum, because I

(21:28):
don't think he could have thought he was going to
do much better than this. And then if this is
the end game for Kerry, why do you go you know,
we're bringing in debo and like, like what did they gain?
I don't understand, Like, if you were scared of the age,

(21:49):
but you're adding it on, you know, adding Garan Keets
stuff into the thirties, then why wasn't he just a
priority at the combine? I guess I'm a little baffle
from a team perspective, why they made both of these
players who are clearly super important, Like why they made

(22:11):
them sort of jump through hoops and you know, oh yeah,
I'm over here. I'm over here, and like really get
their attention and really try to take it to the
nth degree to essentially give them what they want.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Yeah, I guess we get the the Hendrick Sik side though,
as we get to free agency that much quicker and
we agree to part ways. So now it's it's all
hands on deck for Joe Burr to make it work
for this year.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
Well, yeah, I don't think they were ever going to
put future money out there, and I think he probably
knew that. But if they had sweetened the pot like this,
six weeks ago, you know what I mean, he's in campus,
he's teaching, you know, he's actually on the field, and
he's showing the guy they drafted to replace him, Tamar Stewart,
how to do it. I just I'm a little confused.

(23:06):
If they were willing to go to these lengths, why
they didn't figure that out sooner?

Speaker 1 (23:11):
Just bangles. I mean, yeah, does this mean that we're
going to get an end to the Micah Parson situation
at some point soon? Because he's the third one, right,
of the three stars that we're doing one all new deals.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
That's what I've been saying. Now, this one's always different
because he's never been paid before, and he's absolutely in
his prime, and no one can quibble about age, and
no one can quibble about market size or you know whatever.
The team's culture, and like he is the culture, he
fits the star. He is a star. He fells jersey,

(23:49):
he moves the needle, all that stuff. And I think
this one is we're talking about new money guarantees that
are going to destroy these other two deals, you know,
by multiples multitudes. This is like basically starting from scratch.
I mean, this is Michael Parson's first real contract. Ever.

(24:14):
You know, that was clearly the last Hendrickson deal with Cincinnati,
and that's going to end up being Terry's last deal
with Washington. So I don't think it really does anything,
to be honest with you, I think Michael Parsons wants
to be the highest paid defensive player by certain multiples,
and at some point I think Jerry will get there.

(24:37):
Maybe it's some time for him to play, you know,
two thursdays from now, and maybe it's not. But I
don't think it bleeds too much into the regular season
one where they are he's going to get his bag.
I have no concerns about.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
That anything from our three weeks of preseason fun and
the reports emanating there out that has gotten you to
change your opinion on an individual team.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
No, not really, No, I mean Baltimore is pretty emphatic
what they did. Like they had that streak where they
won twenty three straight preseason games, and it struck me
as a little bit bizarre and quirky and stupid, and
they were clearly at times pushing the pace and doing

(25:22):
things in the fourth quarter to try to win games
like this three and zero preseason and I don't again
like I'm not sitting here as spousing point differential in
the preseason or whatever, but like they pretty much did
whatever they wanted to do physically running the ball on
the teams they played, and they basically suffocated the opposition.

(25:44):
Like their second stringers and third stringers beat the hell
out of whatever version of the Colts, Cowboys and Commanders
offense that they saw. And the rookie chicker hit one
from sixty one the other day in Washington. Well, so
I think they were bad on special teams. They were
all full on defense the first ten weeks of the season,

(26:06):
and the offense was historically significant. Isaiah like, we's banged up,
but I think he'll be back by two week three
something like that, and otherwise they're they're they're rocking and
rolling on offense. Defensively, I think this Mike Green Jada
is going to hit the ground running and solo Malachi
starts and that defense did get better in the second half,

(26:27):
and dak Or's second year is a defensive coordinator. And
again it's just the preseason, but their backups looked pretty
menacing and physical, so a lot of people think it's
the best roster.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
In the league.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
It might be. I'll just say, from from an injury
standpoint and from a productive production standpoint, I don't think
you could have much better of a summer than the
Ravens had.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
He's on Twitter at Jason locking for that, that Jason
locking for there. He is already set for the Jets
Ravens AFC Championship game.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
Ready to go.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Take it easy, buddy, we'll talk to you next week.
We get ready for the footballs to fly for real.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
Have a great week, brother.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
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dot ed U. Did I miss some say Jets? Did
I miss that? No? He likes the Jets like me.
He likes the Jets to be like a five hundred

(27:30):
is team. So I said, yeah, I ready for Jets Ravens.
I'm just manifesting and I put it on put. Anything's changed,
so why would he say no? He still thinks the
Jets suck. No, he like, look, the Jets with no
expectations are always better than the Jets with expectations. Either
way it sucks. You have five hundred team. I'm telling
you be absolutely fine. The absolutely fine. This year be
more fun than the last few years. I'll be that's

(27:51):
for sure, at least on the field. Off the seal
off field wasn't as great because we didn't really dominate
the off season this year. But I think the field
we might be better because we've got a better head coach.
You finally have something in with a system and a
plan and a culture and all kinds of stuff. So
I'm excited. Yeah, I think the biggest thing is that
you didn't win the off season, so something's got it different. Yeah,

(28:12):
and they won't win the regulars. That's most likely true.
Time now to find out what's trending in the wide
world of sports. And a guy who's been called the
Taoscar Hernandez of Fox Sports Radio. Once in a while,
he runs a ball down and you go, wow, that's
some play, And he also then throws sunflower seeds on
everybody in the office. It's Steve Disager.

Speaker 6 (28:33):
By all means, take away a six time Gold Glove
right field or just put him in the infield and
say anybody could just play the outfield intensively right right, No, okay,
transit in property.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
Steve just proved that today.

Speaker 6 (28:47):
Right, he did make a nice leaping catch at the
left field wall, so I guess the outfield defense it's
all settled. Actually, Harmon referenced this last week, and this
needs to be said over and over everything the dog
made fun of the Yankees about during the World Series
last year. We can always count on them to make
a mistake. Yeah, sure, throw a wrong bass or bobbla bolt.

(29:08):
That's what the Dodgers are this year. Yeah, literally, less
than twelve months away from last year's World Series. Now, granted,
the Dodgers are tied for first in the NL West
with the padres La is scoreless against the Reds bottom
of the second.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
Right, now, can you do me a favorite? Win tonight
when the next couple, and can you sweep the Reds
for me? Can you do me that favor? I'll see
what I can do for sure. YEA all from his
desk right there, Steve Sager, he's gonna be helping you
and Frostburg. Can you get him a sweep in the
Reds positivity? You are we pinch hitting today?

Speaker 6 (29:38):
The red started today only a game and a half
out of the last NL wild card behind the New
York Mets, who, by the way, had Francisco lindorgo Ozero
for six with three strikeouts, but the Mets did eke
out a thirteen three victory against the Phillies. The Padres
are up four to three at the Mariners. In the
bottom of the third. Milwaukee beat Arizona seven to five.
Wins in the alas for Toronto, the Yankees and Austin

(30:00):
Tampa Bay a nine to nothing winner at Cleveland, which
has lost six in a row. Junior Camonaro two home runs.
He has thirty nine. In fact, he had four hits,
four runs scored in this game. And very small crowds
for the White Sox in Miami, but home wins for them.
By the way, the Rockies are off tonight record of
thirty seven and ninety four. They've lost four straight and

(30:21):
are mathematically eliminated from the playoff chase.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
A good run. He stop, not them, just stop.

Speaker 6 (30:27):
You're still in August people the Wash base that you know,
it's like the expansion Mets. They're not going to finish
sixty games back I think in the division, but it
is like the expansion Mets. The Washington Commanders gave wide
receiver Terry McClure in a three year extension. It includes
a thirty million dollars signing bonus. The Bengals gave defensive
end Trey Hendrickson a pay raise for this year. He'll
still be an unrestricted free agent after this season. He

(30:50):
missed all of Cincinnati's offseason workouts, including camp. Hendrickson led
the league in sacks last year. The Raiders Tonight acquired
quarterback Kenny Pickett from Cleveland for a fifth rounder. Backup
quarterback Aidan O'Connell has a broken wrist. The Raiders signed
veteran wide receiver Amari Cooper. Las Vegas white out Jacoby
Myers requested a trade. He wants a contract extension. Texans

(31:11):
running back Joe Mixon.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
You know the things to you've decided, because Jacoby and
Myers is a big law firm. Yeah, And the slogan
for Jacoby and Myers was, and still probably is, it's
about time. So now you can probably just take this
and say, Jacoby and Myers, you want a contract extension.
It's about time.

Speaker 6 (31:28):
I thought you were gonna say eighty receptions and nobody
saw them. Texans running back Joe Mixon will miss at
least the first four games with an ankle injury. He
missed all of last's last offseason's workouts. Houston does have
running back Nick Chubb now the kicker for the Dolphins.
Jason Sanders will miss a few games, according to the team. Reportedly,
he could miss about a month or more with a

(31:50):
hip injury, and Miami running back Jalen Wright will likely
miss the opener with a leg injury. The NFL's cut
down deadline is Tuesday afternoon to get the rosters down
to fifty three. Venus Williams lost her first rounder at
the US Open tonight in three sets. Madison Keys of
the US lost her first round match in three close sets,
and there were two WNBA games tonight. Las Vegas won

(32:11):
it's eleventh game in a row seventy nine seventy four
at Chicago the Chicago Sky nine and twenty eight. This season,
Angel Reason defeat ten points seventeen rebounds Connecticut nine and
twenty eight. After losing at New York eighty one seventy
nine and New York star Breonna Stewart returned and had
nineteen points after missing a month with a brome Bruce
Inner need you. By the way, Caitlin Clark of Indiana

(32:32):
still out with groin and ankle injury. She did at
least participate in shoot around Sunday. Their regular season ends
September ninth.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve. Coming up next the
Play of the Day, which comes with a little bit
of controversy, plus we get into the biggest sports viral
video of the last twenty four hours. Jason and Mike.
This is Fox Sports Radio.

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Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pastern seven pm Pacific.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
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(33:45):
game gets delayed because there's some potential cheating, cheating going
on in the field, that gets to be the play
of the.

Speaker 4 (33:54):
Day and we'll face the left hand hit of Brandon
Marsh And what do we got?

Speaker 1 (34:04):
I can't played umpire. Scott Barry is pointing at something.
I don't know if there's something on the field.

Speaker 6 (34:09):
Oh, is there something hanging over the the Yeah, above
the city sign and centerfield, just sort.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
Of left of the four oh eight. That's a light
the speaker.

Speaker 5 (34:21):
H oh, it's a uh and they're it's one of
those parabolic mics.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
It's not out. That's on the other side too, I
think I think it was John. It was in the
sight line for Marsh with the right hand pitcher. Yeah,
the left hand pitcher. It shouldn't matter, should it. And
there's one on the other side as well. Met's TV
on the calls. This is how petty the Phillies are. Oh,
there's a camera and there's a bit of a reflection

(34:48):
on it because Alec Baum hdn't do a double play
and he comes out of the game saying, oh, that
it's reflecting over the field. Yeah, the Phillies are up
by seven games in the East. They're so petty. The
game gets delayed for six minutes because they have to
move the microphoone that was a little bit too far,
and as a result, the game we have to wait
around seven eight minutes for them to continue on. Clearly

(35:10):
it didn't matter because the Mets won seventy five to
three tonight, So it's okay. Oh, like I dismissed if
you are the guy that tried to trade on the
inflation of a football for months like they But you
know you couldn't you see something you say, So it
couldn't have been that big a deal because the Phillies
would have said something early, or the Mets would it

(35:31):
said if it was in the wrong spot. I don't
think it was getting lowered and moved. And because the
Phillies would have said something, the Phillies would have said, sure,
they weren't moving it around like it was drone operating
and you can't electronically. It was just kind of moving
up and down the railing and then using the Jedi
mind trick to erase it from you after you're actually,
what was I mad about it? It was going to complain
to the empire about something. Nah, I don't know. I

(35:52):
ground it out to second. But it's a bit of gamesmanship, right,
that's just the idea of, hey, you know what, We're
gonna make them move this. I'm upset, Yeah, you gotta move. Yeah. Okay.
But today, with all this chicanery that we've seen across
all sports, go back into everything that just went down
with Connor Stallions, a multi year investigation that was wiped

(36:13):
away with the stroke of a pen. Aron, just write
a big check. Okay, let's not. Let's not compare this
to Connor Stallions going to games and getting and getting
video and getting and getting signals and giving it back
to the team. Let's not. What I'm making. The point
I'm making is the sensitivity around any of these kind
of things and trash cans everything else. And it really

(36:35):
was to just say, okay, let's just be done with it.
And it really was only a big deal because the
Mets made a pitching change. And so when you change
righty to left. He was like, oh, now I can
see the mic. So it wasn't a big deal before.
But when you change picture, you see it from a
different angle. Obviously I see them out. That's up. That's
why into a double play skip. Okay, we'll get that

(36:55):
taken care of. Everybody's looking for an excuse. Nobody just says, hey,
you know what, I had a bad at bad Yeah.
Oh he's that damn microphone parabolic mike. It screwed everything up. Meanwhile,
the biggest viral story of this weekend is a crazy
one that we're hoping everything is okay for Stuart Smith.
He is the wrestler known as Psycho stew You've probably

(37:17):
seen this where over the weekend, a live stream wrestling
event sparked a big police investigation after Roja Jackson, who
was the son of Rampage Jackson, was unleashed a series
of punches to him during what was supposed to be
this big staged event right now. Apparently the story was
they got into an altercation backstage and it bled its

(37:40):
way into the ring where here comes Rajah Jackson, who's
not a wrestler, he's a UFC fighter, he's MMA fighter,
and he knocks Stuart Smith that after gives a pile
driver and then starts punching in the face when clearly
he is unconscious and he lands like twenty punches and
now at some point you gotta go, guys, not scripted,
not scripted, help him out. Not scripted, not scripted. Yeah,
we've gone off the mark, Like this is crazy, and

(38:02):
he's in the hospital and and hopefully you know, continues
to do better, but he gets hit. This is not
a movie where guys get punching the face like twenty
five times. They'll find a way to not only you know,
defeat the guy, but then defeat like seven other guys after.
Like this is where I mean, really, I'm not saying
he could have killed him. You punch a guy that
many times in the face, you're that strong standing over

(38:22):
or or you know, on your knees over him while
his face is on the ground. Yeah, there's one thing
to say. All right, let's set this up. You can
get a little bit back in the ring and give
your receipt, right, so you get to give the blow
to say, hey, you did something wrong. So here's the
response to it. No, guy's clearly out and now we're

(38:43):
talking about I think it was what twenty two was
the count of the number of hits and rampage is
going on saying hey, we're MMA guys. Like at first
it was kind of the all right, this was worked out,
and then it got you know, a little too serious,
and then it became a hey, we're an MMA and
we don't screw around kind of thing, like hard guy

(39:03):
kind of thing. So like trying to figure out where
the middle round is and all of this sounds like
the guy is gonna make a recovery in the hospital whatever.
But pretty scary moment when this video started making the rounds. Yeah,
as he's clearly not moving right at all, and I
think to see why it's at right now, Like why
hasn't he been fully arrested. Wasn't I think what they honestly,

(39:24):
they need to get through the Okay, what was supposed
to be staged? Did this get out of control? Because
it's all getting about like premeditation is what you're talking about,
because this is he just jumps in and starts wailing
on the guy right, Like was this initially part of
it was a premeditator? Like you need to go through
this because because it's it's wrestling. What was what was scripted?
What got out of control? So before they say okay,

(39:45):
you're arrested, your charge with X, Y and Z, like
you got to go through and okay, what was going on?
What was going on backstage? Was at a real beef?
Was it something that was not supposed to be? But
you got to talk to a lot of people, like
there's a lot that has to go on because you
still had a referee count the guy down. Yeah, like
he didn't. He's like, okay, yeah, this is part of it.
The pin Yeah. Like so like everybody just seems to
be let's get our stories right and talk to everybody

(40:08):
that was involved to figure out what was real, what
was k fabe gone berserk and what the truth really is.
So you need a little bit more. But that if
the why is there no been arrest that that's got
to be why because it's so much you don't know
what's real? What was it? Just because of what the
degree of the charges are going down on the final
what's they extended the damage exit about a Fresca exit

(40:31):
swollen dome. Coming up next, we get back into the
biggest NFL quarterback story of the day, Jason and Mike Fox.
I'm not sure it's clarity over to. But with cutdown
Day coming in the NFL tomorrow, we had some big
news that which we're gonna get to a lot over
the next half hour. Right we had trades, we have
extensions agreed to, and a deal that just happened basically

(40:53):
right before we went on the air tonight. Scratch another
quarterback off of the Cleveland Browns list of five guys
are gonna start this year. Can't believe that? Kill you.
Kenny Pickett is no longer a Cleveland brown a guy
they identified in the offseason saying he's gonna be our
bridge quarterback. We love Kenny Pickett. Nope, Kenny Pickett is

(41:14):
now a member of the Las Vegas Raider. Yeah, thank god.
The Browns get a fifth round pick in twenty twenty
six for Kenny Pickett back. Pickett's gonna back up Gino Smith, obviously,
the Raiders having that need after Aidan O'Connell fracture's right
wrist in the finale against the Cardinals. And so now
Kenny Pickett, who we thought was gonna get in there.

(41:36):
I thought he was gonna be in there. Second on
the list of five guy quarterbacks. It would go Flaco Picket, Sanders, Gabriel,
and then Tyler Huntley for the final game of the season.
Now Kenny Pickett is out, he's now a Raider, they'll
still start five quarterbacks. I just need to figure out
who that fifth guy is gonna be. Yeah, now we
just need to because now it's gonna go Flaco, Gabriel, Sanders.

(41:56):
They'll bring Tyler Huntley back at some point, I'm sure,
so he'll be back, he'll play, and then it'll be
a fifth guy at some point. Yeah, it could be
Brady Quinn you right, be right, Frost, But could be
Brady Quinn once with the Browns back in what two
thousand and seven draft class, could be Derek Anderson, could
be Spurgeon Win. You never know. Wow, you got this,
n How far away can we? How far away can

(42:17):
we really be? From Johnny manziel No, I was excited
because I thought Pickett in this show I did yesterday
with Jared Smith Fox Sports Sunday, thought with the O'Connell
move that Pickett would get traded there. Now, he was
always the trade candidate so long as Joe Flacco was
kept in bubble wrap and upright for week one. But yeah,
it does kill your parlay. Yeah yeah, I mean hunt

(42:40):
thing can go back and drove that two minute drive
that everybody got mad about over the weekend. So some
good will, but behind obviously Dylan Gabriel and should Or Sanders. Well,
I mean really I'm bummed because I had that. It
was such a great five quarterback with the with the
guy in order, and now Kenny Pickett's gonna be in

(43:02):
Las Vegas now in a half hour. We could talk
about that baseball part because I did get the answer
to that one. We'll get back to that later on.
But yeah, just a very curious sort as is cut
down days. So all those quarterbacks of yesteryear that you
thought we're gonna hang on with, No, no, not so fast,
your guy Mike White, Yeah out, yeah, quarterbacks are gone.

(43:24):
But yeah, so we get a little bit of a
shuffle over these last twenty four hours and look cut
downs tomorrow. So we still have more to come now
with Shador Sanders. Something a little different from what you've
heard the past few days about crazy stuff like to
be Madhaanor Sanders was told not to be draft. NFL
told teams not to draft Shador Sanders. Kevin Stefanski is

(43:47):
ruining Shador Sanders on purpose. All right, let's understand a
couple of things here before you get too crazy with stuff. Right.
I understand the Browns are tanking and they're looking for
arch Man. I understand that. I get all of that, right,
I get all of that. But it they didn't have
to take him, Okay, so they didn't have to take them.
They could have done very well this year with Joe

(44:07):
Flago and Kenny Pickett and Dylan Gabriel. They could have
done very well with them, but they went out to
get Shador Sanders. All right, this is not something where
the Browns are out to absolutely ruin a guy. Now,
why is Sanders where he is now? He had a
really poor game this weekend, right to show that. Okay,
really not ready yet, and I understand that, But why

(44:28):
has this been gone so slow for Shador Sanders? And
one reason I'm gonna give you is something we've talked
about a little bit before, and one is something new
that I want to open open everybody's eyes to that. Okay,
now you're gonna say, okay, this is why things have
been going so slow? Right, Number one thing with Shador
Sanders I said, is what the talent is there? Right? Obviously,
everybody comes along at their own pace, and clearly he's

(44:49):
maybe a little bit ahead. With a great first preseason game.
He had bad second game he had I understand that,
you know, and got hurt and missed that and miss
miss miss middlegame. But clearly the Browns it's it's much
different to be a starting quarterback at a big time
D one school and to be the face of a
franchise that is worth a billion dollars, and the Browns

(45:11):
want to make sure that when schaudor Sanders starts that
he is responsible enough and he is mature enough to
not go through knucklehead headlines like we've seen since he
got drafted. We had the speeding situations, two of them.
We had him yelling at a player in the middle
of his first debut right because he had to scramble

(45:31):
and got sacked. We had him get into it with
a reporter right after the game is over because he
didn't say anything nice about him. Now, clearly that was
a little overblown, but still, why are you doing this? Right?
So I have to understand, you have to understand that
the Browns have to see this more as just the
guy is good, put him in and let him play. Right.
You've had instances now since he's become a Brown where

(45:53):
you have to worry. Okay, if we make him the
starting quarterback, is he ready for this? Is he is
he responsible enough to people handle being the face for
Francis or he's still gonna be I'm great and whatever
I do is fine. And if you hate me, it's
your fault. Okay, you can do that at some positions
in the NFL, you can't really do it at quarterback.
So it's got to It's not just can you handle
it physically? It's physically, it's emotionally. It's responsibly. Can you

(46:16):
be the face of a franchise because that's who you
are if you're a quarterback. And clearly this is something
that I understand that Shador Sanders is still struggling with
and has to and and has to improve upon. If
the Browns are gonna make him the quarterback because they
don't want to make him the quarterback and say, well,
we're putting out pr fires every couple of days. And
I don't even stuff with dian I don't even I
mean all the look, look at the stuff that's going

(46:37):
on that chadur is kind of brought on himself a
little bit. They don't want to go through that. They've
been embarrassed enough the last few years, so that part
of it I kind of understand. Or Hey, that Chador,
you need to show that we can trust you, because this, again,
being the face of a billion dollar corporation is more
than just Hey, he can sling it and he's tough
and he's a talented quarterback. You're not protected by your dad,
You're not protected by a You can do that in

(46:59):
college football. Some stuff you could do there you can't
do in the NFL. Yeah, I mean, look, we just
get down to brass tacks. I mean, Kevin Stefanski's the
guy with the track record. He's got a history. As
much as we can mock the Browns and a lot
of their decision making throughout the years. You know, Stefanski,
I think to a degree, has earned the He knows

(47:21):
what he's doing, so you trust the process as it were.
To your point, A lot of the off field and
even on field stuff, getting after teammates, getting after opponents. Right,
we go back to his college days of stalking guys
like setting up to the big showdowns, and anytime someone
might have said something that could be seen as untoward

(47:44):
towards Dion, towards Shador, towards his teammates, that he's certainly
taken umbrage with it throughout the process, and we have
will never know one hundred percent what's going on in
meeting rooms going back to the draft of what caused
him to fall fully to the fifth round. You know,

(48:04):
Eric Dickerson and so many others trying to talk about
the position he's been put in, and yes, when you're
a backup, you play with backup players, right. Jeff Schwartz,
our teammate here, does count down on Sunday mornings here
on Fox Sports Radio, talking about it through his own experience,
Like nobody's going and ordering the code red for a

(48:25):
backup lineman who's fighting to earn a roster spot to
play poorly. If anything, what we saw in that sack
that has been shown a million times and played a
million times here on Fox Sports Radio that he took
for the twenty two yard loss, like that guy did
everything but shoulder tackle him like he was a member
of the WWE to keep that guy from getting torched

(48:48):
or Sanders. He could have been called for holding four
different times on that play ahead of the sack, if
you really wanted to go down that path. So it's
not that there aren't guys fighting for jobs all alongside
him and they're going out of their way to make
him look bad. Right, so we can just cancel that noise,
all this stuff from Eric Dickerson, our other teammate, TJ.

(49:10):
Houschman's on and everybody else about holding him back and
making him look bad whenever, I don't buy it. Right
the order of not drafting him, there might have been
a couple of rooms where there was a decision to say, hey,
that's not a guy we're bringing in, potentially because of
all the off field and outside noise, but to say

(49:30):
that it was a vast conspiracy to do that. You're
never gonna get me on board that. Now. The other
thing is this right for a different perspective, and this
would this explains just why the Shador Sanders timeline has
gone the way it was now. I didn't and I
didn't see this going into the draft. How big a

(49:51):
story Shador Sanders was going to be, especially after going
in the fifth round. Right, you knew the beginning of
the draft when melk Hyper opens up with five minutes
on Shador Sanders, we're not talking about Camra world at all.
That suddenly Chad Door Sanders was gonna be a big story,
Dion's kid coming out, big deal. But don't I don't
think we were ready for just how big a deal

(50:12):
this was. This was a daily story that overwhelmed so
many other football stories. The Browns became national news because
they drafted Chador Sanders, and obviously they're big news because
it's the Browns, and oh, you need five quarterbacks, but again, Browns.
But I don't think the Browns were ready for how
big a deal this was going to be. Hey, we
got your Door Sanders, it'll be it'll be a deal now,

(50:33):
and they'll talk. But eventually it's gonna calm down and
he's a backup. He's coming in as a fifth round quarterback,
and and it's you know, there'll be a little bit
of excitement early, but eventually we get into the preseason
and go on and he's got to prove himself. Which
is ridiculous because what once you saw it was going
on with the draft, you knew whoever got your door, Sanders,
he was gonna suck all the oxygen out of the room.
So my thing is, I wonder if the Browns just

(50:56):
really don't know how to play this story right. They
don't want Shador Sanders. They hate the fact this is
an everyday story with Shador, everything going on at Shador,
Shador Shador, So they're playing it close to the vest.
You're not getting a lot of explanation from Stefanski, your burrier,
anybody about where as it is, where his position is.
We don't want to give too much oxygen to this,
and whatever we do, we don't want to make a

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decision or a choice that could backfire on us. So
we got to slow play this. We got to slow
play Shador Sanders until we're absolutely sure he's ready for
a bigger role, whether it's a backup, whether it's a
starting job, whether he starts for a few weeks, whatever
it is. And now understanding that they're overwhelmed by this
and don't know how to deal with it, and that
explains why Shador Sanders has come along. Yep, you're on

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the team, you're getting your reps, you're starting because everybody
else's is hurt. Hey, you had a great date. But
then you're hurt. You're not starting, you're coming off the bench,
you're playing in the third and fourth quarter of this game.
We don't know what we have and if we mishandle
the situation, it's gonna be terrible for us. Right, and
then if we mishandle the situation, we're gonna say, ready, hey,
we take arch man And then Archie Manning calls and says, Hey, Browns,

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this is Archie. Hey, I made this phone call twenty
five years ago. I'm doing it now. Yeah, look I
remember what I call. The Chargers said, don't take Eli. Yeah,
don't take arch We're not signing, We're not going there.
You guys are an absolute mess. So they know that
they don't want to be seen as we really can't
handle things like this because of what could be coming
in the future, whether it's Arch Manning or whether they
got to handle your door as a star. So they're

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out of their depth. They still don't know how to
deal with this. So that's why everything with him has
been slow played, and they're kind of learning as the
days go on, and I'm sure they're thinking, now, hey,
when the games start we're gonna stop talking about your
door Sanders. Right, Yeah, no, not so much. But I'm
sure they're hoping that's going to happen, but I don't
know that there. They've been equipped and they are equipped
right now to deal with this story on this level,

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which is why it's being slow played. Well, I mean
some of it is also the fact that he's not
clearly and number one guy. Otherwise you would have been
drafted in one of the first four rounds, right if
he was a clear can't prospect. And he did some
good things in that first game, there's no question about it.
You can't deny that. But he looked equally bad in

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this third game. Right. There were a lot of mistakes,
there were a lot of problems, and you could say, yes,
he's playing with he was playing with third stringers. Then
weren't a lot of starters playing that full run, nor
was he playing against first stringers that entire time. Going
back to week one, those guys had a cup of coffee.
He struggled, and then he stayed in the game and played. Well,

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that's fine, it's all learning as you go through. Remember
Jimmy Haslam had that presser and was asked about Shudor Sanders.
To me, he was like, no, it was all Barry,
it was all his his brain, brain trust to bring
this along. And again Stefanski with the track record of
playing having guys play well, and we got to the

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playoffs a couple of years ago he did with Joe
Flacco in company. But you had a roster that was
pretty widely acknowledged as a pretty good roster. Well, it's
not the same now. Right now you're talking about a
mid to lower tier roster that you have to try
to navigate. There's no easy answer, and Dylan Gabriel is
certainly not a godsend either. No, you gotta you're you're

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talking about a battle between a third round guy and
a fifth round guy. Yeah, good luck. But I'm just
I don't know that they know how to handle this
and that. And that's that's one big Okay, Why he
doesn't get a bigger chance with the ones, Why he
stayed four string all the way through the year, This
is too much for us. Well, you did miss some
time due to injury. That doesn't help you your case.
Exit out about a Fresco exit swelling dome Jason Smith.

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Makarman again just something different for Shador Sanders, which could
explain a lot of the last few months in Cleveland.