August 30, 2025 • 42 mins
Jason Smith & Steve DeSaegher discuss Lee Corso's last College Game Day and reminisce about what an illustrious career he has had and what an end of an era it is! Plus, the guys try to make sense of the Cowboys answers on life with Micah Parsons, the Packers hype with getting Parsons, and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:51):
Do you have an your research that Jonahtan graduated from
University of Maryland Global Campus a couple of weeks ago?
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Do you have that?
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Certainly?
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Not?
Speaker 4 (00:57):
No?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yeah, okay, all right, very good.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Although he would be some sort of international student visiting
I'm guessing.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yeah, well he's Canadian.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
No, I mean not from New York cor Maryland.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
No, no, no, but it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.
I mean and a Nickelback fan potentially, So there's that.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Okay, we were going well until.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
We were going well until Nickelback, But that happens right now.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Georgia Tech and Colorado tied twenty a piece, was seven
and a half to go in the fourth quarter. Colorado
got out to a seven to nothing lead in this game,
and Georgia Tech took control in the second quarter. But
it has been a back and forth battle. Caden Salter
tonight taking over four Schador Sanders twelve out of nineteen
four hundred and twenty one yards in a touchdown. He's
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also run for thirty four yards in a score. He
is going to be Look, I'll tell you this, He's
gonna be.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Really good like him.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
I'm not worried about Like we talked about Colorado last hour,
They're gonna be a six to eight win team. I
love the over for them. The schedule is not that
difficult as they get better. The schedule is more difficult
the end of the season, but that's when they're going
to be the better team. There'll be a six to
eight win team. But I'll tell you, Salter, coming out
of the transfer portal one of the most sought after
guys quarterback. I think the number one most sought after
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quarterback in the portal this offseason, and I really thought
Syracuse was going to get him. I'm like, he's scheduled
to go, that's awesome, But I think he was scheduled
visit Syracuse after Colorado and.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Then oh, hey, guess what, I'm going to Colorado? Oh
all right, then he.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Mean something sometimes yeah, yeh yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
It's the old days in the NFL, where hey, my
free agent schedule is the Vikings on Monday, the Jets
on Tuesday, the Browns on Wednesday, and it's like, we
don't want to let you out of the building. Oh yeah, sorry,
I'm signing.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
That was when Doc Rivers was Clippers coach. Remember they
had a center visiting and they kind of blocked the doors.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Sign him.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
He's not leaving to go visiting where else? It's done tonight.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
It's the It's the everyday equivalent of listening through a
timeshare presentation when you go, hey, get a free weekend
in Barbados, everything paid for. You just have to listen
to a time Timeshare pitch for you know, a half
hour and what that's all You gotta do is sit
through a half hour.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
There's no such thing as a time sharre presentation that
lacks half.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
But then they have ton then they convince you to
try to buy a time share and spend.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
That's what it's all about.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Like we get it's that type of thing.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
You had free fruit loops and you're not gonna sit
here and buy some kind of time share for five
thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Come on, man, free fruit loops. You could have had them.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
What is a maintenance fee? Can we go over that again?
Speaker 3 (03:30):
But speaking of fruit loops, let's get to the Dallas Cowboys.
Uh so you like that? Huh? You like that?
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Well the cuckoo part of the TV commercial for the
cereal So yeah, sure you're rolling.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
The day after for the Dallas Cowboys and Micah Parsons
after the trade that still has shaken the NFL, and
I think a lot of people like my side, woke
up today going people on the Dallas team. Yeah, oh,
I'd be really And that's be the first place we
go here is that we heard from both Brian Schottenheimer
today head coach of the Cowboys, and Micah Parsons, who
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spoke for the first time since the train. Obviously, yesterday
belonged to Jerry Jones, because you know, if there's oxygen,
he's got to have it first, yes, yes, and then
when he's done and too tired, okay.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
There might be something left over for you a lot.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Let Brian talk today. I'm just I gotten over.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
I believe that was the general manager speaking. Whoever is
the Dallas owner, I think is probably going to hold
a separate news conference.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
I think you're right. We're waiting for that. We're waiting
to hear from that.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
But here's Brian Schottenheimer today talking about how for the
Cowboys after trading the best defensive player in the NFL
and getting back a defensive tackle who, as we said,
is a Pro bowler, but it is twenty nine, coming
off a bad year, and you know his.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Best days are clearly behind him.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
This is Brian Schottenheimer telling everybody, Hey, the goals for
the Dallas Cowboys are still the same.
Speaker 6 (04:54):
Nothing's changed. My goals haven't changed. Our team goals haven't changed.
I hit the players on that today after I talked about,
you know, just the tough couple of days, you know,
for all the guys, and it doesn't change, you know,
the standard is the standard.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
So team goals haven't changed, nine or ten wins, sneak
into the playoffs, maybe on the strength of the offense,
and maybe's really good.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Strength of the defense. No, no, no, oh.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
No, no, guys, guys, don't look everyone, We're gonna have
to win a shootout every week.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
I just came to pause mid sentence and stared directly
into one of the cameras, said, you saw this team
play defense last year, right, nothing's changed.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Nothing's changed for the goal. So that's so that's what
the goal. So we know because that was really the
goal going in and that's the goal.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Now, yeah, the standard is the standard. So apparently the
standard is stann It's let's try not to make the
Super Bowl for say, thirty years. Let's do that. That's
the standard. We're doing well.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
And keep that thirty year drought going. Right, Hey, we're
going to keep that going for all we know.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
This might con true to that, but.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
This is the thing, right.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
He talked today as well about the conversation he had
with the team and like it's it's it's got to
be difficult for for Schottenheimer to sit back and say, Okay,
now I got to talk to the guys about this,
right because you know, it's something we didn't really get
into a lot last night. But but it's more the
day after is how the Cowboys players feel following this,
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because this is basically the Cowboys saying, Okay, we're punting
on this season. You can sit here and say, well,
you know we got two draft picks and we got
a defensive to okay, you got a defenseive we got
to stop the run. Well, you know what it's like,
Jerry Jones has decided to say that because clearly you
knew you have to stop the run for a long
time now.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
You could have addressed stopping the run.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
To the general manager, knock on the door.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
All the meetings with the owners that you could have.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
You know, you have the owners here once a week,
just knowing that, Okay, well you could have taken care
of that in free agency, in the draft. That's like
they're trying to come up with a reason to justify
this trade. Right, So the team knows you can't. You can't,
you can't feed them aligne. They know how bad it is.
And and Schottenheimer said today, you know, we had an
honest conversation and it got passionate, right, like it got heated,
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but it was good.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
It was positive going on.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
And I don't know, you know, I get you know heat,
you know, it got passionate. I wonder if that's you know,
really the code for passionate is the Cowboys players going, hey.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Coach, what the blank are we doing?
Speaker 7 (07:24):
Man?
Speaker 3 (07:25):
What the blank?
Speaker 1 (07:26):
We just traded the absolute biggest game changer, biggest defensive superstar.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
In the NFL and his sixty sacks or whatever it is.
How the hell are we gonna keep playing? Man? What's
that's what you're sending to us?
Speaker 4 (07:37):
That is exactly what passionate means. It means that we're
screaming over the phone for the what did he say,
twelve to fourteen players he managed to hit up on
the phone.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Yeah, I mean so.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
And that's the thing is that that's a really hard
message to send because the players are smart, right, they
know to you know, a week before the regular season
that we're kneecapping the team, we're taking away our best
defensive player and getting back.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Send a Dan Campbell resterence. Did that go over everybody's head?
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Did you just that would bite?
Speaker 6 (08:05):
No?
Speaker 1 (08:05):
I didn't say they were biting the knee couch. I
mean they were biting that would literally crushing. That's what
is just this is this is with the baton and
the big stick and like, yeah, just an kneecap you
right there, Like that's really what they're doing. And it's
it's a hard message to send this close to the season.
And it's not like you traded away Micah Parson. Okay,
well now we have money to go get guys. No,
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you're you're you're on the hook with Clark now for
twenty million a year the next two years. Right, like,
where in what world does this make sense?
Speaker 3 (08:32):
But this is the Cowboys and there's.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Been a pro bowler. Let's not you know, under sell
what Kenny Clark has been coming out of UCLA, A
very good pro. It's just not the same position. And
you still have a bad defense potentially.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I mean that's the part of it that really is
going to play out over the course of the next
few months. Right like the shock of the Parsons trade,
I get it, But think about how bad it can
get in Dallas this year, which if you hate the Cowboys,
it's like, think about how good can get Dallas. But
just think about how bad this gets if the Cowboys
start getting boat race and their offense isn't enough to
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keep them in games, and all of a sudden they're
just getting like after the first three weeks, like it
could it could be absolute mutiny on the on the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
The fans have already revolted.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
I'm sure Micah Parsons is gonna get a standing ovation
when he gets to play back in Dallas this year.
Because everybody hates Jerry Jones. The Cowboys are the one
team where I think the fans hate their.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Own team more than they hate everybody else.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Right, Like, as much as mad as I get at
the Jets sometimes I still love the Jets more than you,
But I really think Cowboys fans hate.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Their team more than they hate the Philadelphia Eagles. Right now,
who do you hate most? Okay?
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Eagles, Okay, Giants, Okay, I hate my team seventy five percent,
Eagles fifteen percent, Giants ten percent, Commanders ten percent.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Like that's how things are, That's how bad things are. Now.
You can imagine what that's gonna mean.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
If the Cowboys start out poorly and look like you
look at their schedule, that's going to happen, and I
can't imagine what life is going to be like for
Jerry Jones every game when knowing that I am punting
on the season and I failed in what I normally succeeded,
and that is the business aspect of signing players that
I want to give a lot of money to.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
I failed on this.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
That you think this is bad in Dallas, now just wait,
just wait until we get into October.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
You reference October. The first game they have in October
is at the Jets. What will the record be after
those four Sundays in September? Because interestingly, and coink at Inkaly,
it's the Green Bay Packers at Dallas on a Sunday
night to end the month of September, if you can
believe that. So nobody's expecting to win at Philadelphia. Correct,
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That's the NFL season opener on Thursday night. They've got
the Giants and Bears in between and then hosting Green Bay,
and they're already saying that. Of course, the new guy
on the Dallas side is going to be playing the
very first game, so I assume he'll be playing against
his own team, and we'll see Parsons in Dallas on
a Sunday night. I'm guessing that'll get a rating point
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or two.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
I think so.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Well, look, Dallas has become even more and this is
the one thing where Jerry Jones can pat himself on
the back and say, we're even more of a must
see now because of this trade. Because of this trade
is now there's so many people who want to see
the Cowboys fail, who want to watch the Cowboy not
really hate watch the Cowboys, but watch them and hope
they lose and root against them because boy, look at
Jerry Jones. I can't stand Jerry Jones. Whether you're a
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Cowboy fan or you're outside of it, you're laughing. But
it's like, oh, the Cowboys they carry themselves like they're
the greatest team in the world, and here they are.
They're gonna be terrible, and interest level in them is
even higher than it was because think about it, if
they didn't make this trade, right, just think about they
don't make the trade.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Dallas Cowboys, Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
They're normally a really big story, right because they're the Cowboys,
just like the Steelers every year or a story because they're
the Steelers. Then you get the upper echelon of the
NFL from year to year. The last years, the Chiefs
have owned that. Now the Eagles are up on that,
the Niners, but every year it's the Cowboys, but epssell Boys.
It was just kind of a generic interest in the
Cowboys year. Now the Cowboys have become story number one,
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right ahead of everything.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Else in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
The Cowboys and what they're doing following this Micah Parsons
trade has become story number one. It's leapt ahead of
if Shador Sanders winds up starting for the Browns. It's
lept ahead of if Caleb Williams starts out four and
oh for the Bears and he throws twelve touchdowns in
his first three games. And because I have him in Dynastay,
I hope so like it's jumped past that. Like the Cowboys.
Now the interest level has gone from a garden variety
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great level of interest to now their number. They're the
number one story in the NFL. So Jerry Jones, at
least I know, is patting himself on the back for that.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
And just to you know, you brought up other teams
that certainly have national interest a national fan base, but
the Dallas Cowboys not only have their local Dallas radio
station and all the affiliates in their network around Dallas, Texas, Oklahoma.
They have a separate Compass Media Networks has a separate
Dallas Cowboys radio network with a completely separate boost for
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a national game. So there's another fifty to seventy radio
stations carrying Cowboys there, not with Brad Sham who's done
Cowboys for a year with completely separate crew. You look
at the masthead of the Dallas Cowboys media notes where
they say who's covering this game, and it says what
channel or what network is carrying and the announcers, and
then it says and it's this Compass network, and it's
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this local Dallas network, and it's Telemundo and it's a
secondary and it's preseason, so we got two other TV.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
There's not enough space.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
On the page for all the live coverage of TV
and radio that goes on for this team, a team
that has not won the Super Bowl in thirty years.
To say there is still interest in the Cowboys is
an understatement.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Now when it comes to Micah Parsons, Okay, this is
his big statement from today talking about the trade and
what he hopes happens with the Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Here's Michaeh Parsons.
Speaker 8 (14:11):
I looked on that wall and I saw Brett fav
I saw Reggie, I saw all those legends, and I
was like, I gotta be there.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
And you know, you go and you.
Speaker 8 (14:18):
Go near the draft room and they're all having their
hands up and they having that moment. I'm looking for
that moment, and you know, I'm going to take advantage
of this moment and maximize it to reach that moment.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
You know, this is the one part of the trade
where because it's the coverage has been widely negative. Cowvin obviously,
so right, I can't make it up how bad the
situation was. But for Micah Parsons, Now take take a
look at it from here. This is the Micah Parsons
question that I have. He's focused on wanting out for
so long, and he said today he didn't have a
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say in the destination. Now, the Packers is a great
landing spot, obviously, and here he is. Obviously he's verse
in the history of the Packers and understands what the
legacy of the Packers is.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
And that's great. He's gonna spend the majority.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Of his prime, the rest of his prime until he's
thirty with the Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
So he's only played four years in the league at
this point.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Yeah, I mean, so he's got You know, usually you'll
get linebackers like him having about a ten year NFL
career right before you start to slow down. Maybe guys,
maybe he's one of those guys like Miles Garrett that
will get into his thirties and still be really good
for the first couple of years. But you want to think, okay,
first half of your prime? Is any getting in the
back of the back half for your prime? All of
a sudden, he gets the trade, he gets what he wants.
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But sometimes you get to the point where we have
to go, well, now what, right, Like he didn't have
a say with the Green Bay Packers. He's got to
make it work with the Packers, right, he said, I
did have a say. It did go to his preferred destination.
I want to play in this system because I'm gonna
be great here. Obviously Micah Parsons is good enough and
disruptive enough that he can work in any system. But
still it was basically, you're getting traded here, so you
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have no saying where you're gonna go spend the next
few years. You've already agreed to a big contract extension.
You wanted to get paid.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
You got that. Now you have to make it work.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
And what if it doesn't work as well as it
did with the Cowboys. I mean, you don't think it
will because obviously he's that kind of a player.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
He's kind of a plug and play guy.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
But now you've gone from I want to be a cowboy,
want to be a cowboy, Now I want to get out,
and all of a sudden, here's your next four or
five years, and here's your money and good luck. Now
you have to make the best of it and really
enjoy it. And sometimes that goes great and sometimes it doesn't.
So there is a bit of a dark side from
Michaeh Parsons where suddenly you get thrown to a destination
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that you didn't choose, that you're locked in there for
the next few years.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
You didn't have a free agency.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Tour, you didn't make your time, you didn't go and
get to go talk to teams and talk to coaches
and everything else. Now here you are now in Green Bay.
So now it better work for both sides. So there
is a bit of a dark side for it to
Micah Parsons, when you get thrown into a situation that
is just not of your making it all.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Sorry, Mike, you did get what he wanted, the trade
be the contract, So two out of three ain't bad.
And also, as we okay find he's going to green
Bay could be a playoff team. As you can recall,
green Bay was a playoff team at Dallas a couple
of years ago, back when Dallas had a great home wrecker,
back when Dallas had a better defense than the Packers
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won that and ran up and down against the Cowboys
defense as I recall that day. But the calling card
has been the sacks and all that comes with that.
In his four year career in the league, Parsons can
not only pile up the sacks, he can tip the passes,
he can force the fumbles. He's not going to be
piling up tackles total. This is an edge rusher, not
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a middle linebacker, so he doesn't do everything out there,
but he does so much. He excels so much just
in the sack department you mentioned it. It's in the
four years, it's over fifty sacks. His lowest year for
a sack total was last year and he still had
twelve in only thirteen games played. It's quite Yeah, it's
quite a contract, but it's quite a player acquired by
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Green Bay as well.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Exit how about a fresco Jason Smith Steve de seger
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Speaker 3 (18:08):
It's okay, some bit of a dark side for the Green.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Bay Packers and a bit of a twisty good news
for the Cowboys because more people need way more people
will really care about them passionately this year, even you know,
just because they screwed up so badly. All right, hey,
you gotta hey, attention is great, right uh? Coming up next,
we will ask the scariest question about the college football season,
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and it should scare everybody.
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Speaker 3 (20:11):
Thirteen thirteen late in the third quarter.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Will keep you updated on this, but clearly, look, it's
been a Ladder Day phenomenon of the last decade or
so where Labor Day weekend belongs to college football. Right
the NFL doesn't play until the Thursday, Wednesday or Thursday
after Labor Day, and you know, pretty much it's the
one week of the year where it's like, boy, we
talk about college football going into the weekend, we talk
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about it on Monday and oh, okay, well that's great.
So a big weekend in college football. But a couple
of big things happening tomorrow. I know, I'm not talking
about Dave Portnoy being banned from the from Ohio State tomorrow,
and it's a big event the last game day that
Lee Corso is going to appear on making his final
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appearance on college game day. An incredible career. There's been
a thirty for thirty on the guy. You know he was,
He's he's ninety years old now, he has been with
ESPN for so long, putting on the head gear has
become a cottage industry, and no matter how many times
you see it, it's still so much fun to see
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him put the help, put the logo or put the
head gear ont of.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
The team he's picking. And it's said, no matter why
he's picking the home team, he's not. It's just it's
just an awesome thing.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
And there's a story I've wanted to tell about him
for a long time, because you know, I worked with
him a little bit at ESPN, and you know, I
don't know that he would remember me, you know, working
because you know college football what he did. But I
worked more with Craig James, and Craig James was on
the show and Chris Fowler, you know who was there
when when he worked with Lee so long, and but
Lee Horso is one of those guys where when he
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walks into a room you just immediately feel better. He
walks into it like when he walk in for a
production meeting, or he just comes in and he is
happy to work. He's happy to be there, he's happy
to see people like he was that guy, like one
of those pig And it's not like he always came
in and he was always you know, would take over
a room, but just one of those people that when
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he was there hanging around, you see him came in
the the the vibe of the room just went way up,
like he was. He was that kind of guy. And
from from what I gather, the last you know, twenty
years or so, you know, at ESPN, he's continued to
be that guy.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
And it's you know, it's.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
It's something because you know, Lee putting on the head
gears become a thing with college football for you know,
for the past thirty some odd years.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
And he has said he wants to be remembered as
a guy that put a smile on your face. So
that's good to hear. It was just off the camera,
not just on the camera. And I'm glad he gets
his moment, so to speak. It is time to retire here.
And I'm shocked he's had this many years on the
air after the stroke that he had. Yeah, not just
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this many years total. I'm glad he gets his moment.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Now, I've never told this story. I've been way eating
for the right time to tell this story. Clearly now
with Lee Corso retiring tomorrow, this is one of my
favorite stories of all time. So back when I'm a
production assistant at ESPN in the early to mid nineties's
working one night, or I work in Saturday afternoon, sorry,
Saturday afternoon, college football Saturday. You can imagine how busy
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at college football Saturday is at ESPN, where it's one
hundred games and you're trying to edit highlights and throwing
on It's just remember that scene an airplane when Jilly
Haggerty says and we're also out of coffee and the
whole plane to like, that's what a college football Saturday
is like at ed ESPN. So Lee Corso is doing
Game Day, and this is when they're on all day, Right,
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they do the game Day in the morning, and they're
on in the middle and they do the cut ins,
they're on at halftime all day. Right, They're on all
day and it's Chris Fowler and Lee Corso and Craig
James are on the air.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
So at the end of a day.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
It's like, you know, like like like seven o'clock, they're
allatting ready to sign off the air, the production stand
and this is just a random option. October they decide
to play a joke on Lee Corso and Craig James.
They decide to play and Fowler is in on it.
Fowler's in on it. They decide, the production room decides
to play a joke on and they go, okay, they
thought they were done. They go, wait, we got one
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more segment. We have to come back. We have to
do coming off whatever game it was. We had to
do one more segment. Guys, we're gonna do the same
thing we just did here. We just have to finish.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Chris. When you get done, now you throw it back
whatever it is. We have one more segment to go. Meanwhile,
they were done, right, they were done, but they said
we have.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
To do one more segment. Lee and Craig are like, yeah, fine, whatever.
They ordered the same thing, same rundown. All the changes
are for Chris Fowler, right, because he's the guy in
on it. So they start the segment and this is
basically just a five minute recap of the big games
of the day. Here's highlights, a couple of quick comments
from the from the analysts, and they finish and they
go back, you know, and Chris Fallers says, okay, now
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we go back to Sports Center wherever you had to
throw it to at ESPN. So they started, and they
deliberately start making mistakes the entire five minutes the wrong camera,
Like Chris Fowler starts talking the wrong the camera is on,
Craig James, go, Craig, the camera's on you turn around,
and Craig is standing around not knowing what's happening, and
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Chris is talking and and then Chris makes a mistake
with something and he says, what about this game? And
it was the wrong game, and they were looking at
him like he doesn't play Charlie Ward doesn't play quarterback
for Florida. It's Florida State like and this whole thing,
and you can see Craig and Lee are like, what
is going on? And then the camera starts going. The
camera goes to Lee when Craig is talking, and the
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camera goes to Craig when Lee is talking, and everybody's
watching and laughing their asses off, and Craig James.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
And Lee cours are like, what is what is? What
is going on? Right?
Speaker 1 (25:43):
And Fowlers starts saying, all right, guys, sorry, we're having
technical stuff here. We're gonna get our act together soon.
Then the camera just shows like Lee Corso's hands folded
together and the kid the producers like, Leelee, unclench your hands.
The cameras on your hands, and he unclenches his hands
and puts them on the table right like, and no
one it's it's And it gets to the end and
the last thing they do is is Craig James says
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his final bit and the camera stays on him and
Chris Fowler starts talking and Craig James looks at the
camera and just shakes his head like he's he's at
it at this point, right. So then Fowler at the
very end, he goes, Okay, you know what, this is ridiculous,
this is all you know, We're done, and he starts
taking his jacket off and taking micro ROI goes, let's
go back to the studio and everything, and Lee's Lee
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goes Chris. Chris like because Fowler's getting up away from
the front, off the table and walking away and we're like,
what is going on?
Speaker 3 (26:31):
And so they think it's.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Over, and then the producer goes, Lee, Lee, the camera's
on you stay on camera.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
We can't go we can't go to yeah, stay on camera,
and Lee just they go Lie, sit.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Up, and Lee just sits up and looks at the
camera and smiles, and he's like an uncomfortable like five
or six seconds of Lee just smiling at the camera
because because Fowler's gone and and and Craig James is
it doesn't know what's going on. And they finally stop
and they're all laughing hysterically, and Craig James goes, what
was that? And they let him in on the joke.
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They let him all in on the joke, right okay,
And this is the best part the Limona joke. And
Lee Corso turns to Craig James and goes, you knew
this and didn't tell me, and Craig James goes, I.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Didn't know, and he goes you knew, and Craig Joe,
I didn't know. And Lee Corso sits up and goes, blank,
you you knew? You knew?
Speaker 1 (27:18):
And Lee is laughing while he's doing like he's not mad,
he's just he's going blank, you you knew, And I'm
watching Lee Corso go wow, he's going blank, you right,
you knew?
Speaker 3 (27:26):
You knew? What Foller you knew? And Fellows, Oh, absolutely
I knew.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
I was in Absolutely I knew, And Lee is laughing
and he can't get over it because right away he
gets the joke, like he gets that this was really
funny on the air, like he's just he can't start.
He's trying to pretend to be mad and Craig James
for you know, for effect. But it said Craig James going, Lee, I.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Didn't know, Lee, I didn't know. I didn't know Lee
at least, go blank, you you knew? Blank, you you knew.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
And that became a thing we said for like the
next few months at ESPN. When someone says something someone
didn't know, he would look at each other.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Go blank, you you knew, Blank, you you knew.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
Beside from that you're talking about just.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Yeah, I mean I mean like you know in no,
not I don't mean on the air. I mean, like,
you know, personal with somebody saying, hey are you are
you? You know you're working tomorrow night?
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Right? No, I didn't know I was working. Blank you
you knew? Blank, you you knew?
Speaker 1 (28:13):
And it was it And and that tape was legendary
because I remember seeing that and I said, because we're
all watching, going, oh my god, I go and I
said to the tape operator, could I get a copy
of that? He goes, yeah, sure, he gives me a
copy and I'm like, I had the copy of that tape.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
The next week, people go, hey, could I get that tape?
I got that. I want to see the tape, want
to see the Leek Corso thing.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
I want to see the Craig James saying, God, it's
only like four and a half minutes long.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
And it was absolutely hysterical.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
And to see Lee at the end, and the thing
is right away after a moment like that where you
think you just did the worst segment of television of
all time because you don't know it's a joke, and
what they must have been going through for those four
and a half minutes right away to be let in
that it's a joke, and for Lee Corso to get
it right away and just start laughing at it, like
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that's kind of who he was, Like he was he
was pretending to be mad at Craig James, but just
to just blank you you and you knew, and you
knew and you and you and I'm going wow, And
I thought, you know, time to time over the course
of my life, I've thought about that. I said, that's
one of the best pranks I've ever seen. And it
was and like I said, that tape was so I
could have sold that tape.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
For I don't know, five hundred dollars. Someone would have
bought that from me to to have.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
This is before things went viral. And also, by the
way it sounds like in those studios, it's kind of
the opposite reaction as the show. We say, Chris Berman
tape that mates made the rest that was a practical joke.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
No, there's certain tapes where no, you're right, there's certain tape.
Usually most tapes involving Beno Cooker hysterical and they're they're
hysterically funny for a reason.
Speaker 7 (29:43):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
You know who used to co host with Lee Corso
in the early days, is that Oh.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
He would say, you know, Lee Corso and I used
to do shows together. That's back when Methuselah would be
favored by seven points in a.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Big game like that. That's what he would say.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
That's back when when Jonah was favored in the flood.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
But then you know how that went, you know, like he.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
But I get like that.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
We did that show from the arc and it was
really tight because the control room you're trying to fit
two of every animal on the on the boat and
it gets gets crowded in that control room, like that's
what it's.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
And he no doubt predicted Moses to win two Heisman trophies.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Well, if you part the Red Sea, you should win
at least one Heisman Trophy.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Well the problem was He's Ron Paulus was the next Moses,
and we all know where that predictions.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
You know he was friends with him later on with
the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Yeah, because because Palace then became the quarterbacks coach at
Notre Dame.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
And he I remember when I would interview.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
With which worshiped right exactly, yes, and he because and
he always he he gravitated towards me.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
Was college football on ESPN before Leek orso.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Oh, yes, Bino was the best, right, I mean I
had him on my show at ESPN and he was
awesome and he was so good, and he gravitated towards
my show. He says, you know why, because I heard
you you say no Tre Dame the right way you
say no Tre Dame.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
I never said Notre Dame. I always say Notre Dame.
No you say it Notre Dame.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
And he would come on and tell all kinds of
stories and Bino A. Bino was the best. He would
always have have great stuff to say and and always
have these great stories. He has a he had a
knowledge of the final score of bowl games going back
to like nineteen fifty five.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Yeah, it's like some baseball beat writers can actually tell
you who made the last out of each World Series.
It's really astounding.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Like I was at being a final score nineteen fifty
seven Sugar Bowl. That was West Virginia beating Texas. It
was it was like twelve to ten, And I would
look it up twelve nine right like, And I know
Bino's not looking up on a computer because didn't have
a computer.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
He did, no, he did.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
He never didn't have a computer. It's nothing else. So
he just knew this off the top of set. But
you know, nineteen seventy five Orange Bowl, come on, that
was eight. Yeah, I'm like, okay, and he would have
it right like he had that kind of knowledge.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
But I mean, he's, you know, the end of an.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Era, you know, for guys like Lee Corso, it's been
He's been such a fabric of college football for Sultan,
no matter how many uh, you know, inventions of the
set they do and look to and he coached.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
One of the early Holiday Bowl games. The thing he
didn't exist here for in the late seventies.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Yeah, I mean, and you know, and the thing is
to be fair, like do I say. ESPN has a
big issue covering the NBA. Yes, they cover the NBA poorly.
They have never figured out how to cover. It's why
they're bringing in all the TNT guys now. They've never
figured out the right people on the set. They get
rid of people who were good, like the NBA. It's
just a disaster. But they do college football incredibly well,
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incredibly well. And and and even though that you changed
through hosts, change to everything, like Lee Corso has been.
No matter what kind of football fan you are, you're
talking about a generation plus of watching on a Saturday
of Leek Courso, you know, taking off the head gear
now and then that's birthing all the different things we
see now and all the personality now that you see
in college football shows, whether it's going to be Dave
(33:15):
Portnoy tomorrow for Fox or Pat McAfee, whoever it is,
like Lee Corso was the guy that brought that great
sense of lightness to a set and knowledge and experience
and just a fun guy to watch talk about college football.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
And he was hosting that Saturday morning show before headgear
and before they were even doing the show live from campuses.
That's how long he's been on the show. Let's get
through the update because we can update the Colorado game
going on right now. It is early fourth quarter and
Georgia Tech has scored to take the lead twenty to
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thirteen over the Buffalos. We've got about twelve minutes left
in this one. Plenty of college football tonight and a
massive amount tomorrow, but twelve's ranked Illinois right now and
on leads forty five three over Western It with eight
minutes to go. On Fox TV. Auburn has scored now
leads twenty four to ten at Baylor late in the third.
Also in progress, UNLV second quarter leads seventeen to seven
(34:11):
at Sam Houston. And the other games of note are finals.
And yeah, Wagner did lose at Kansas Jayhawks forty six
to seven the final.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Sorry, they'll get it back at basketball. Oh no, wait, no, wait,
that's what happening.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
They got Dwan Wagnery, some of the Wagner.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Hey Hall of Famer Billy Wagon.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
Apstate one at Charlotte Wake Forest Edge Kennesaw State ten
to nine, Michigan State beat Western Michigan twenty three six,
and it was Tarleton State winning an army in double overtime.
Of course, there is a game on Fox TV tomorrow
of note noon Eastern Time. It's number one Texas playing
at number three Ohio State. There's also Utah at UCLA
(34:51):
late Saturday night on Fox. The New England Patriots release
Safety Jabrill Peppers. Women's number one Arena Sableca advanced at
the US Open, and number four Jessica Bagoula won a
third round match in the WNBA Atlanta with a home
win against Dallas one hundred to seventy eight. The Dallas
Wings nine and thirty one this year, and to Major
League Baseball, yes, the Mets did win. The Mets hit
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six home runs tonight in New York beat Miami nineteen
to nine, Juan Soto with his thirty third round tripper
of the year, Pete Alonzo with his thirty first and
the win to Jonah Tong in his major league debut
five innings, one earned run aloud.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
The Mets were up nineteen to four. They brought in
Luis Torrenz to pitch their catcher. He couldn't get out
of the ninth innings, so the Mets had to bring
in a real pitcher to finish.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
They had to bring in Ryan Stannik.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
So much for saving the Bullphad.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Lately Stannic hasn't been much better than a position pitcher,
but they brought it. It's like, oh, we can't win this.
We got to bring in a real pitcher to finish.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Out this game.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
The Yankees are leading ten to two at the White
Sox in the bottom of the ninth at Minnesota twins
ahead of the Padres seven to four in the bottom
of the seventh, Dodgers Diamondbacks score in the third. The Giants,
who won five in a row, lead to one over
the Orioles bottom of the first. We already had wins
for Milwaukee and for Philadelphia. Saint Louis won in ten
innings at Cincinnati seven five.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve O, Jason Smith, Steve
de Sager in from Mike Harmon.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Tonight.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Coming up next, we got the play of the day
and our first big pick of the weekend Texas Ohio State,
which Titan walks away.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
With the victory. That's next right here, Jason Smith Steve
de Sager in for Harmon. This is Fox Sports Radio.
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The Jason Smith Show with Steve de Sager in for
Mike Harmon, Colorado a half yard away from tying this
game up against Georgia Tech, first and goal on the
half yard line after a Cadence Salter scramble twenty to thirteen,
eight minutes to go in the fourth quarter. More on
this game coming up in a bit, but time now
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Speaker 3 (37:33):
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the day.
Speaker 7 (37:36):
Fagan is the back and the pistol look snap back
to Altmeyer looks to.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
Throw to the end zone.
Speaker 7 (37:41):
It is caught touchdown Tanner Arkin. First touchdown of the air.
Ald Meyer to Tanner Arkin. And that looked pretty easy.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
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Speaker 1 (37:55):
It's been pretty easy for Illinois against Western Illinois.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
The number twelve.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Five and lion I lead Western Illinois fifty two to
three with about five and a half minutes to go
in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
Steve, you had Illinois giving forty, so I think they're
feeling pretty good right now.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
They were only favored by forty. Alt Myers three touchdown
passes now, by the way, plus the team has over
two hundred yards rushing and over six yards of carry.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
I mean, look, Illinois is a team.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Like every year there's that one team in the Big
tench Like we talk about Michigan and Ohio State.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
We're gonna got to Ohio State, Texas in a second.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
You know, sometimes it's Wisconsin or you know, but really
it's it's Ohio State, Penn State, and Michigan. But every
year there's that one that other team. A boy, hey,
if not for the heavyweights. We'd be talking a lot
more about them. And Illinois might be that team this year.
I mean, Brett Bilma has done a pretty good job,
you know the left. You can feel it coming here
(38:50):
and now suddenly you know, preseason top fifteen team and
all obviously tonight it's Western Illinois there you know, the
winning in a route. But they could be that big
that fod in the side, big ten team that year
that hey, if we squeak out an extra spot in
the college football Playoff, maybe it's Illinois.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
It is a guy that's been well paid to be
the coach there, so maybe my standard the bar is
a little bit high. They need to be talked about
in the top twenty five for what he's earning, because
you know in the SEC where he earned a lot
of money. Pretty much everybody coach is a zillionaire, whether
you actually win something or not. And then he goes
(39:27):
to Illinois. Okay, he's got a great track record. You
know the Wisconsin years, we're superb. Okay, now you can't
be stumbling against Duke next game or no.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
No, no, no, no no listen, and if they don't win,
blame love Smith.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
It's Lovey Smith's So.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
That's sir, that's the name. Still. Believe me, I know
that's a name that's still on the tips of tongues
in the Alini Nation.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
So obviously we are getting forward towards the first weekend
of college football with all the top twenty five teams.
Tonight's the appetizer for what we're getting tomorrow Colorado. Just
as in the end zone, they tie this game up
with Georgia Tech at twenty a piece. Kden Salter throwing
a touchdown. Texas and Ohio State more points than you
(40:11):
think in this game. Arch Manning gets better as the
game goes on. Ohio State is replacing a ton of talent.
They're replacing coaches in different positions. They have a new quarterback.
Texas is gonna win the battle at the line of scrimmage.
They're gonna win this game thirty one to twenty three.
Their defensive line is gonna make it tougher for Ohio State.
Ohio State will be fine, but this is hey, You're
(40:33):
replacing a lot coming off the national championship. It happens,
and arch Manning will make a good amount of plays
with his legs more than his arm. Getting used to
new receivers now in Texas. But he's the real thing.
He's had enough experience last year. He's not gonna walk
in and suddenly boy playing at Ohio State in the
word's gonna be a bit.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
No, he's gonna be just fine. They'll put up a
lot of points.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
And I think there's a reason why people are jumping
to Texas here, which has happened over the course of
the last few hours of betting. Line has changed now
Texas is favored by a point and a lot of
books or a point and a half somewhere. But I
will take arch Manning over Julian Say in game one
and a team with a little bit more coming back
than they do, so I will take Texas thirty one
to twenty three.
Speaker 4 (41:14):
That's a lot more points score than I am guessing
for this game. Not just because it's two good teams.
I believe whether it's actually one and three, I believe
these are two excellent teams and will be very good
teams in the college football landscape this year. But first
game and not getting to you know, there's no preseason
in college football, not getting to get your feet wet.
(41:35):
I'm not sure it'll be that high scoring.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
All right, there we go. So hey, so Steve De
Sager says, take the under, Take the under.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
He hates march Manning. Steve de Sager hates arch Manning
hates arch man So again, we'll preview the other big
games throughout the show tonight, but coming up next way,
do we tell you what was said today the day
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Certainly?
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No?
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Although he would be some sort of international student visiting
I'm guessing.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yeah, well he's Canadian.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
No, I mean not from New York cor Maryland.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
No, no, no, but it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.
I mean and a Nickelback fan potentially, So there's that.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Okay, we were going well until.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
We were going well until Nickelback, But that happens right now.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Georgia Tech and Colorado tied twenty a piece, was seven
and a half to go in the fourth quarter. Colorado
got out to a seven to nothing lead in this game,
and Georgia Tech took control in the second quarter. But
it has been a back and forth battle. Caden Salter
tonight taking over four Schador Sanders twelve out of nineteen
four hundred and twenty one yards in a touchdown. He's
(01:41):
also run for thirty four yards in a score. He
is going to be Look, I'll tell you this, He's
gonna be.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Really good like him.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
I'm not worried about Like we talked about Colorado last hour,
They're gonna be a six to eight win team. I
love the over for them. The schedule is not that
difficult as they get better. The schedule is more difficult
the end of the season, but that's when they're going
to be the better team. There'll be a six to
eight win team. But I'll tell you, Salter, coming out
of the transfer portal one of the most sought after
guys quarterback. I think the number one most sought after
(02:11):
quarterback in the portal this offseason, and I really thought
Syracuse was going to get him. I'm like, he's scheduled
to go, that's awesome, But I think he was scheduled
visit Syracuse after Colorado and.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Then oh, hey, guess what, I'm going to Colorado? Oh
all right, then he.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Mean something sometimes yeah, yeh yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
It's the old days in the NFL, where hey, my
free agent schedule is the Vikings on Monday, the Jets
on Tuesday, the Browns on Wednesday, and it's like, we
don't want to let you out of the building. Oh yeah, sorry,
I'm signing.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
That was when Doc Rivers was Clippers coach. Remember they
had a center visiting and they kind of blocked the doors.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Sign him.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
He's not leaving to go visiting where else? It's done tonight.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
It's the It's the everyday equivalent of listening through a
timeshare presentation when you go, hey, get a free weekend
in Barbados, everything paid for. You just have to listen
to a time Timeshare pitch for you know, a half
hour and what that's all You gotta do is sit
through a half hour.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
There's no such thing as a time sharre presentation that
lacks half.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
But then they have ton then they convince you to
try to buy a time share and spend.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
That's what it's all about.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Like we get it's that type of thing.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
You had free fruit loops and you're not gonna sit
here and buy some kind of time share for five
thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Come on, man, free fruit loops. You could have had them.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
What is a maintenance fee? Can we go over that again?
Speaker 3 (03:30):
But speaking of fruit loops, let's get to the Dallas Cowboys.
Uh so you like that? Huh? You like that?
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Well the cuckoo part of the TV commercial for the
cereal So yeah, sure you're rolling.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
The day after for the Dallas Cowboys and Micah Parsons
after the trade that still has shaken the NFL, and
I think a lot of people like my side, woke
up today going people on the Dallas team. Yeah, oh,
I'd be really And that's be the first place we
go here is that we heard from both Brian Schottenheimer
today head coach of the Cowboys, and Micah Parsons, who
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spoke for the first time since the train. Obviously, yesterday
belonged to Jerry Jones, because you know, if there's oxygen,
he's got to have it first, yes, yes, and then
when he's done and too tired, okay.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
There might be something left over for you a lot.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Let Brian talk today. I'm just I gotten over.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
I believe that was the general manager speaking. Whoever is
the Dallas owner, I think is probably going to hold
a separate news conference.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
I think you're right. We're waiting for that. We're waiting
to hear from that.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
But here's Brian Schottenheimer today talking about how for the
Cowboys after trading the best defensive player in the NFL
and getting back a defensive tackle who, as we said,
is a Pro bowler, but it is twenty nine, coming
off a bad year, and you know his.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Best days are clearly behind him.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
This is Brian Schottenheimer telling everybody, Hey, the goals for
the Dallas Cowboys are still the same.
Speaker 6 (04:54):
Nothing's changed. My goals haven't changed. Our team goals haven't changed.
I hit the players on that today after I talked about,
you know, just the tough couple of days, you know,
for all the guys, and it doesn't change, you know,
the standard is the standard.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
So team goals haven't changed, nine or ten wins, sneak
into the playoffs, maybe on the strength of the offense,
and maybe's really good.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Strength of the defense. No, no, no, oh.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
No, no, guys, guys, don't look everyone, We're gonna have
to win a shootout every week.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
I just came to pause mid sentence and stared directly
into one of the cameras, said, you saw this team
play defense last year, right, nothing's changed.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Nothing's changed for the goal. So that's so that's what
the goal. So we know because that was really the
goal going in and that's the goal.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Now, yeah, the standard is the standard. So apparently the
standard is stann It's let's try not to make the
Super Bowl for say, thirty years. Let's do that. That's
the standard. We're doing well.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
And keep that thirty year drought going. Right, Hey, we're
going to keep that going for all we know.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
This might con true to that, but.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
This is the thing, right.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
He talked today as well about the conversation he had
with the team and like it's it's it's got to
be difficult for for Schottenheimer to sit back and say, Okay,
now I got to talk to the guys about this,
right because you know, it's something we didn't really get
into a lot last night. But but it's more the
day after is how the Cowboys players feel following this,
(06:24):
because this is basically the Cowboys saying, Okay, we're punting
on this season. You can sit here and say, well,
you know we got two draft picks and we got
a defensive to okay, you got a defenseive we got
to stop the run. Well, you know what it's like,
Jerry Jones has decided to say that because clearly you
knew you have to stop the run for a long
time now.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
You could have addressed stopping the run.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
To the general manager, knock on the door.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
All the meetings with the owners that you could have.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
You know, you have the owners here once a week,
just knowing that, Okay, well you could have taken care
of that in free agency, in the draft. That's like
they're trying to come up with a reason to justify
this trade. Right, So the team knows you can't. You can't,
you can't feed them aligne. They know how bad it is.
And and Schottenheimer said today, you know, we had an
honest conversation and it got passionate, right, like it got heated,
(07:12):
but it was good.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
It was positive going on.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
And I don't know, you know, I get you know heat,
you know, it got passionate. I wonder if that's you know,
really the code for passionate is the Cowboys players going, hey.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Coach, what the blank are we doing?
Speaker 7 (07:24):
Man?
Speaker 3 (07:25):
What the blank?
Speaker 1 (07:26):
We just traded the absolute biggest game changer, biggest defensive superstar.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
In the NFL and his sixty sacks or whatever it is.
How the hell are we gonna keep playing? Man? What's
that's what you're sending to us?
Speaker 4 (07:37):
That is exactly what passionate means. It means that we're
screaming over the phone for the what did he say,
twelve to fourteen players he managed to hit up on
the phone.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Yeah, I mean so.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
And that's the thing is that that's a really hard
message to send because the players are smart, right, they
know to you know, a week before the regular season
that we're kneecapping the team, we're taking away our best
defensive player and getting back.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Send a Dan Campbell resterence. Did that go over everybody's head?
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Did you just that would bite?
Speaker 6 (08:05):
No?
Speaker 1 (08:05):
I didn't say they were biting the knee couch. I
mean they were biting that would literally crushing. That's what
is just this is this is with the baton and
the big stick and like, yeah, just an kneecap you
right there, Like that's really what they're doing. And it's
it's a hard message to send this close to the season.
And it's not like you traded away Micah Parson. Okay,
well now we have money to go get guys. No,
(08:26):
you're you're you're on the hook with Clark now for
twenty million a year the next two years. Right, like,
where in what world does this make sense?
Speaker 3 (08:32):
But this is the Cowboys and there's.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Been a pro bowler. Let's not you know, under sell
what Kenny Clark has been coming out of UCLA, A
very good pro. It's just not the same position. And
you still have a bad defense potentially.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I mean that's the part of it that really is
going to play out over the course of the next
few months. Right like the shock of the Parsons trade,
I get it, But think about how bad it can
get in Dallas this year, which if you hate the Cowboys,
it's like, think about how good can get Dallas. But
just think about how bad this gets if the Cowboys
start getting boat race and their offense isn't enough to
(09:06):
keep them in games, and all of a sudden they're
just getting like after the first three weeks, like it
could it could be absolute mutiny on the on the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
The fans have already revolted.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
I'm sure Micah Parsons is gonna get a standing ovation
when he gets to play back in Dallas this year.
Because everybody hates Jerry Jones. The Cowboys are the one
team where I think the fans hate their.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Own team more than they hate everybody else.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Right, Like, as much as mad as I get at
the Jets sometimes I still love the Jets more than you,
But I really think Cowboys fans hate.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Their team more than they hate the Philadelphia Eagles. Right now,
who do you hate most? Okay?
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Eagles, Okay, Giants, Okay, I hate my team seventy five percent,
Eagles fifteen percent, Giants ten percent, Commanders ten percent.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Like that's how things are, That's how bad things are. Now.
You can imagine what that's gonna mean.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
If the Cowboys start out poorly and look like you
look at their schedule, that's going to happen, and I
can't imagine what life is going to be like for
Jerry Jones every game when knowing that I am punting
on the season and I failed in what I normally succeeded,
and that is the business aspect of signing players that
I want to give a lot of money to.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
I failed on this.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
That you think this is bad in Dallas, now just wait,
just wait until we get into October.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
You reference October. The first game they have in October
is at the Jets. What will the record be after
those four Sundays in September? Because interestingly, and coink at Inkaly,
it's the Green Bay Packers at Dallas on a Sunday
night to end the month of September, if you can
believe that. So nobody's expecting to win at Philadelphia. Correct,
(10:49):
That's the NFL season opener on Thursday night. They've got
the Giants and Bears in between and then hosting Green Bay,
and they're already saying that. Of course, the new guy
on the Dallas side is going to be playing the
very first game, so I assume he'll be playing against
his own team, and we'll see Parsons in Dallas on
a Sunday night. I'm guessing that'll get a rating point
(11:12):
or two.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
I think so.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Well, look, Dallas has become even more and this is
the one thing where Jerry Jones can pat himself on
the back and say, we're even more of a must
see now because of this trade. Because of this trade
is now there's so many people who want to see
the Cowboys fail, who want to watch the Cowboy not
really hate watch the Cowboys, but watch them and hope
they lose and root against them because boy, look at
Jerry Jones. I can't stand Jerry Jones. Whether you're a
(11:36):
Cowboy fan or you're outside of it, you're laughing. But
it's like, oh, the Cowboys they carry themselves like they're
the greatest team in the world, and here they are.
They're gonna be terrible, and interest level in them is
even higher than it was because think about it, if
they didn't make this trade, right, just think about they
don't make the trade.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Dallas Cowboys, Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
They're normally a really big story, right because they're the Cowboys,
just like the Steelers every year or a story because they're
the Steelers. Then you get the upper echelon of the
NFL from year to year. The last years, the Chiefs
have owned that. Now the Eagles are up on that,
the Niners, but every year it's the Cowboys, but epssell Boys.
It was just kind of a generic interest in the
Cowboys year. Now the Cowboys have become story number one,
(12:15):
right ahead of everything.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Else in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
The Cowboys and what they're doing following this Micah Parsons
trade has become story number one. It's leapt ahead of
if Shador Sanders winds up starting for the Browns. It's
lept ahead of if Caleb Williams starts out four and
oh for the Bears and he throws twelve touchdowns in
his first three games. And because I have him in Dynastay,
I hope so like it's jumped past that. Like the Cowboys.
Now the interest level has gone from a garden variety
(12:40):
great level of interest to now their number. They're the
number one story in the NFL. So Jerry Jones, at
least I know, is patting himself on the back for that.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
And just to you know, you brought up other teams
that certainly have national interest a national fan base, but
the Dallas Cowboys not only have their local Dallas radio
station and all the affiliates in their network around Dallas, Texas, Oklahoma.
They have a separate Compass Media Networks has a separate
Dallas Cowboys radio network with a completely separate boost for
(13:13):
a national game. So there's another fifty to seventy radio
stations carrying Cowboys there, not with Brad Sham who's done
Cowboys for a year with completely separate crew. You look
at the masthead of the Dallas Cowboys media notes where
they say who's covering this game, and it says what
channel or what network is carrying and the announcers, and
then it says and it's this Compass network, and it's
(13:35):
this local Dallas network, and it's Telemundo and it's a
secondary and it's preseason, so we got two other TV.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
There's not enough space.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
On the page for all the live coverage of TV
and radio that goes on for this team, a team
that has not won the Super Bowl in thirty years.
To say there is still interest in the Cowboys is
an understatement.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Now when it comes to Micah Parsons, Okay, this is
his big statement from today talking about the trade and
what he hopes happens with the Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Here's Michaeh Parsons.
Speaker 8 (14:11):
I looked on that wall and I saw Brett fav
I saw Reggie, I saw all those legends, and I
was like, I gotta be there.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
And you know, you go and you.
Speaker 8 (14:18):
Go near the draft room and they're all having their
hands up and they having that moment. I'm looking for
that moment, and you know, I'm going to take advantage
of this moment and maximize it to reach that moment.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
You know, this is the one part of the trade
where because it's the coverage has been widely negative. Cowvin obviously,
so right, I can't make it up how bad the
situation was. But for Micah Parsons, Now take take a
look at it from here. This is the Micah Parsons
question that I have. He's focused on wanting out for
so long, and he said today he didn't have a
(14:51):
say in the destination. Now, the Packers is a great
landing spot, obviously, and here he is. Obviously he's verse
in the history of the Packers and understands what the
legacy of the Packers is.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
And that's great. He's gonna spend the majority.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Of his prime, the rest of his prime until he's
thirty with the Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
So he's only played four years in the league at
this point.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Yeah, I mean, so he's got You know, usually you'll
get linebackers like him having about a ten year NFL
career right before you start to slow down. Maybe guys,
maybe he's one of those guys like Miles Garrett that
will get into his thirties and still be really good
for the first couple of years. But you want to think, okay,
first half of your prime? Is any getting in the
back of the back half for your prime? All of
a sudden, he gets the trade, he gets what he wants.
(15:32):
But sometimes you get to the point where we have
to go, well, now what, right, Like he didn't have
a say with the Green Bay Packers. He's got to
make it work with the Packers, right, he said, I
did have a say. It did go to his preferred destination.
I want to play in this system because I'm gonna
be great here. Obviously Micah Parsons is good enough and
disruptive enough that he can work in any system. But
still it was basically, you're getting traded here, so you
(15:54):
have no saying where you're gonna go spend the next
few years. You've already agreed to a big contract extension.
You wanted to get paid.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
You got that. Now you have to make it work.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
And what if it doesn't work as well as it
did with the Cowboys. I mean, you don't think it
will because obviously he's that kind of a player.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
He's kind of a plug and play guy.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
But now you've gone from I want to be a cowboy,
want to be a cowboy, Now I want to get out,
and all of a sudden, here's your next four or
five years, and here's your money and good luck. Now
you have to make the best of it and really
enjoy it. And sometimes that goes great and sometimes it doesn't.
So there is a bit of a dark side from
Michaeh Parsons where suddenly you get thrown to a destination
(16:34):
that you didn't choose, that you're locked in there for
the next few years.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
You didn't have a free agency.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Tour, you didn't make your time, you didn't go and
get to go talk to teams and talk to coaches
and everything else. Now here you are now in Green Bay.
So now it better work for both sides. So there
is a bit of a dark side for it to
Micah Parsons, when you get thrown into a situation that
is just not of your making it all.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Sorry, Mike, you did get what he wanted, the trade
be the contract, So two out of three ain't bad.
And also, as we okay find he's going to green
Bay could be a playoff team. As you can recall,
green Bay was a playoff team at Dallas a couple
of years ago, back when Dallas had a great home wrecker,
back when Dallas had a better defense than the Packers
(17:18):
won that and ran up and down against the Cowboys
defense as I recall that day. But the calling card
has been the sacks and all that comes with that.
In his four year career in the league, Parsons can
not only pile up the sacks, he can tip the passes,
he can force the fumbles. He's not going to be
piling up tackles total. This is an edge rusher, not
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a middle linebacker, so he doesn't do everything out there,
but he does so much. He excels so much just
in the sack department you mentioned it. It's in the
four years, it's over fifty sacks. His lowest year for
a sack total was last year and he still had
twelve in only thirteen games played. It's quite Yeah, it's
quite a contract, but it's quite a player acquired by
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Green Bay as well.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Exit how about a fresco Jason Smith Steve de seger
in for Mike Harmon.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
It's okay, some bit of a dark side for the Green.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Bay Packers and a bit of a twisty good news
for the Cowboys because more people need way more people
will really care about them passionately this year, even you know,
just because they screwed up so badly. All right, hey,
you gotta hey, attention is great, right uh? Coming up next,
we will ask the scariest question about the college football season,
(18:32):
and it should scare everybody.
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Speaker 3 (20:11):
Thirteen thirteen late in the third quarter.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Will keep you updated on this, but clearly, look, it's
been a Ladder Day phenomenon of the last decade or
so where Labor Day weekend belongs to college football. Right
the NFL doesn't play until the Thursday, Wednesday or Thursday
after Labor Day, and you know, pretty much it's the
one week of the year where it's like, boy, we
talk about college football going into the weekend, we talk
(20:37):
about it on Monday and oh, okay, well that's great.
So a big weekend in college football. But a couple
of big things happening tomorrow. I know, I'm not talking
about Dave Portnoy being banned from the from Ohio State tomorrow,
and it's a big event the last game day that
Lee Corso is going to appear on making his final
(20:58):
appearance on college game day. An incredible career. There's been
a thirty for thirty on the guy. You know he was,
He's he's ninety years old now, he has been with
ESPN for so long, putting on the head gear has
become a cottage industry, and no matter how many times
you see it, it's still so much fun to see
(21:19):
him put the help, put the logo or put the
head gear ont of.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
The team he's picking. And it's said, no matter why
he's picking the home team, he's not. It's just it's
just an awesome thing.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
And there's a story I've wanted to tell about him
for a long time, because you know, I worked with
him a little bit at ESPN, and you know, I
don't know that he would remember me, you know, working
because you know college football what he did. But I
worked more with Craig James, and Craig James was on
the show and Chris Fowler, you know who was there
when when he worked with Lee so long, and but
Lee Horso is one of those guys where when he
(21:52):
walks into a room you just immediately feel better. He
walks into it like when he walk in for a
production meeting, or he just comes in and he is
happy to work. He's happy to be there, he's happy
to see people like he was that guy, like one
of those pig And it's not like he always came
in and he was always you know, would take over
a room, but just one of those people that when
(22:12):
he was there hanging around, you see him came in
the the the vibe of the room just went way up,
like he was. He was that kind of guy. And
from from what I gather, the last you know, twenty
years or so, you know, at ESPN, he's continued to
be that guy.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
And it's you know, it's.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
It's something because you know, Lee putting on the head
gears become a thing with college football for you know,
for the past thirty some odd years.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
And he has said he wants to be remembered as
a guy that put a smile on your face. So
that's good to hear. It was just off the camera,
not just on the camera. And I'm glad he gets
his moment, so to speak. It is time to retire here.
And I'm shocked he's had this many years on the
air after the stroke that he had. Yeah, not just
(22:54):
this many years total. I'm glad he gets his moment.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Now, I've never told this story. I've been way eating
for the right time to tell this story. Clearly now
with Lee Corso retiring tomorrow, this is one of my
favorite stories of all time. So back when I'm a
production assistant at ESPN in the early to mid nineties's
working one night, or I work in Saturday afternoon, sorry,
Saturday afternoon, college football Saturday. You can imagine how busy
(23:20):
at college football Saturday is at ESPN, where it's one
hundred games and you're trying to edit highlights and throwing
on It's just remember that scene an airplane when Jilly
Haggerty says and we're also out of coffee and the
whole plane to like, that's what a college football Saturday
is like at ed ESPN. So Lee Corso is doing
Game Day, and this is when they're on all day, Right,
(23:40):
they do the game Day in the morning, and they're
on in the middle and they do the cut ins,
they're on at halftime all day. Right, They're on all
day and it's Chris Fowler and Lee Corso and Craig
James are on the air.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
So at the end of a day.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
It's like, you know, like like like seven o'clock, they're
allatting ready to sign off the air, the production stand
and this is just a random option. October they decide
to play a joke on Lee Corso and Craig James.
They decide to play and Fowler is in on it.
Fowler's in on it. They decide, the production room decides
to play a joke on and they go, okay, they
thought they were done. They go, wait, we got one
(24:14):
more segment. We have to come back. We have to
do coming off whatever game it was. We had to
do one more segment. Guys, we're gonna do the same
thing we just did here. We just have to finish.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Chris. When you get done, now you throw it back
whatever it is. We have one more segment to go. Meanwhile,
they were done, right, they were done, but they said
we have.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
To do one more segment. Lee and Craig are like, yeah, fine, whatever.
They ordered the same thing, same rundown. All the changes
are for Chris Fowler, right, because he's the guy in
on it. So they start the segment and this is
basically just a five minute recap of the big games
of the day. Here's highlights, a couple of quick comments
from the from the analysts, and they finish and they
go back, you know, and Chris Fallers says, okay, now
(24:51):
we go back to Sports Center wherever you had to
throw it to at ESPN. So they started, and they
deliberately start making mistakes the entire five minutes the wrong camera,
Like Chris Fowler starts talking the wrong the camera is on,
Craig James, go, Craig, the camera's on you turn around,
and Craig is standing around not knowing what's happening, and
(25:12):
Chris is talking and and then Chris makes a mistake
with something and he says, what about this game? And
it was the wrong game, and they were looking at
him like he doesn't play Charlie Ward doesn't play quarterback
for Florida. It's Florida State like and this whole thing,
and you can see Craig and Lee are like, what
is going on? And then the camera starts going. The
camera goes to Lee when Craig is talking, and the
(25:33):
camera goes to Craig when Lee is talking, and everybody's
watching and laughing their asses off, and Craig James.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
And Lee cours are like, what is what is? What
is going on? Right?
Speaker 1 (25:43):
And Fowlers starts saying, all right, guys, sorry, we're having
technical stuff here. We're gonna get our act together soon.
Then the camera just shows like Lee Corso's hands folded
together and the kid the producers like, Leelee, unclench your hands.
The cameras on your hands, and he unclenches his hands
and puts them on the table right like, and no
one it's it's And it gets to the end and
the last thing they do is is Craig James says
(26:04):
his final bit and the camera stays on him and
Chris Fowler starts talking and Craig James looks at the
camera and just shakes his head like he's he's at
it at this point, right. So then Fowler at the
very end, he goes, Okay, you know what, this is ridiculous,
this is all you know, We're done, and he starts
taking his jacket off and taking micro ROI goes, let's
go back to the studio and everything, and Lee's Lee
(26:24):
goes Chris. Chris like because Fowler's getting up away from
the front, off the table and walking away and we're like,
what is going on?
Speaker 3 (26:31):
And so they think it's.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Over, and then the producer goes, Lee, Lee, the camera's
on you stay on camera.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
We can't go we can't go to yeah, stay on camera,
and Lee just they go Lie, sit.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Up, and Lee just sits up and looks at the
camera and smiles, and he's like an uncomfortable like five
or six seconds of Lee just smiling at the camera
because because Fowler's gone and and and Craig James is
it doesn't know what's going on. And they finally stop
and they're all laughing hysterically, and Craig James goes, what
was that? And they let him in on the joke.
(27:01):
They let him all in on the joke, right okay,
And this is the best part the Limona joke. And
Lee Corso turns to Craig James and goes, you knew
this and didn't tell me, and Craig James goes, I.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Didn't know, and he goes you knew, and Craig Joe,
I didn't know. And Lee Corso sits up and goes, blank,
you you knew? You knew?
Speaker 1 (27:18):
And Lee is laughing while he's doing like he's not mad,
he's just he's going blank, you you knew, And I'm
watching Lee Corso go wow, he's going blank, you right,
you knew?
Speaker 3 (27:26):
You knew? What Foller you knew? And Fellows, Oh, absolutely
I knew.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
I was in Absolutely I knew, And Lee is laughing
and he can't get over it because right away he
gets the joke, like he gets that this was really
funny on the air, like he's just he can't start.
He's trying to pretend to be mad and Craig James
for you know, for effect. But it said Craig James going, Lee, I.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Didn't know, Lee, I didn't know. I didn't know Lee
at least, go blank, you you knew? Blank, you you knew.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
And that became a thing we said for like the
next few months at ESPN. When someone says something someone
didn't know, he would look at each other.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Go blank, you you knew, Blank, you you knew.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
Beside from that you're talking about just.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Yeah, I mean I mean like you know in no,
not I don't mean on the air. I mean, like,
you know, personal with somebody saying, hey are you are
you? You know you're working tomorrow night?
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Right? No, I didn't know I was working. Blank you
you knew? Blank, you you knew?
Speaker 1 (28:13):
And it was it And and that tape was legendary
because I remember seeing that and I said, because we're
all watching, going, oh my god, I go and I
said to the tape operator, could I get a copy
of that? He goes, yeah, sure, he gives me a
copy and I'm like, I had the copy of that tape.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
The next week, people go, hey, could I get that tape?
I got that. I want to see the tape, want
to see the Leek Corso thing.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
I want to see the Craig James saying, God, it's
only like four and a half minutes long.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
And it was absolutely hysterical.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
And to see Lee at the end, and the thing
is right away after a moment like that where you
think you just did the worst segment of television of
all time because you don't know it's a joke, and
what they must have been going through for those four
and a half minutes right away to be let in
that it's a joke, and for Lee Corso to get
it right away and just start laughing at it, like
(28:58):
that's kind of who he was, Like he was he
was pretending to be mad at Craig James, but just
to just blank you you and you knew, and you
knew and you and you and I'm going wow, And
I thought, you know, time to time over the course
of my life, I've thought about that. I said, that's
one of the best pranks I've ever seen. And it
was and like I said, that tape was so I
could have sold that tape.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
For I don't know, five hundred dollars. Someone would have
bought that from me to to have.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
This is before things went viral. And also, by the
way it sounds like in those studios, it's kind of
the opposite reaction as the show. We say, Chris Berman
tape that mates made the rest that was a practical joke.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
No, there's certain tapes where no, you're right, there's certain tape.
Usually most tapes involving Beno Cooker hysterical and they're they're
hysterically funny for a reason.
Speaker 7 (29:43):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
You know who used to co host with Lee Corso
in the early days, is that Oh.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
He would say, you know, Lee Corso and I used
to do shows together. That's back when Methuselah would be
favored by seven points in a.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Big game like that. That's what he would say.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
That's back when when Jonah was favored in the flood.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
But then you know how that went, you know, like he.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
But I get like that.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
We did that show from the arc and it was
really tight because the control room you're trying to fit
two of every animal on the on the boat and
it gets gets crowded in that control room, like that's
what it's.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
And he no doubt predicted Moses to win two Heisman trophies.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Well, if you part the Red Sea, you should win
at least one Heisman Trophy.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Well the problem was He's Ron Paulus was the next Moses,
and we all know where that predictions.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
You know he was friends with him later on with
the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Yeah, because because Palace then became the quarterbacks coach at
Notre Dame.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
And he I remember when I would interview.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
With which worshiped right exactly, yes, and he because and
he always he he gravitated towards me.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
Was college football on ESPN before Leek orso.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Oh, yes, Bino was the best, right, I mean I
had him on my show at ESPN and he was
awesome and he was so good, and he gravitated towards
my show. He says, you know why, because I heard
you you say no Tre Dame the right way you
say no Tre Dame.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
I never said Notre Dame. I always say Notre Dame.
No you say it Notre Dame.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
And he would come on and tell all kinds of
stories and Bino A. Bino was the best. He would
always have have great stuff to say and and always
have these great stories. He has a he had a
knowledge of the final score of bowl games going back
to like nineteen fifty five.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Yeah, it's like some baseball beat writers can actually tell
you who made the last out of each World Series.
It's really astounding.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Like I was at being a final score nineteen fifty
seven Sugar Bowl. That was West Virginia beating Texas. It
was it was like twelve to ten, And I would
look it up twelve nine right like, And I know
Bino's not looking up on a computer because didn't have
a computer.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
He did, no, he did.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
He never didn't have a computer. It's nothing else. So
he just knew this off the top of set. But
you know, nineteen seventy five Orange Bowl, come on, that
was eight. Yeah, I'm like, okay, and he would have
it right like he had that kind of knowledge.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
But I mean, he's, you know, the end of an.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Era, you know, for guys like Lee Corso, it's been
He's been such a fabric of college football for Sultan,
no matter how many uh, you know, inventions of the
set they do and look to and he coached.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
One of the early Holiday Bowl games. The thing he
didn't exist here for in the late seventies.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Yeah, I mean, and you know, and the thing is
to be fair, like do I say. ESPN has a
big issue covering the NBA. Yes, they cover the NBA poorly.
They have never figured out how to cover. It's why
they're bringing in all the TNT guys now. They've never
figured out the right people on the set. They get
rid of people who were good, like the NBA. It's
just a disaster. But they do college football incredibly well,
(32:53):
incredibly well. And and and even though that you changed
through hosts, change to everything, like Lee Corso has been.
No matter what kind of football fan you are, you're
talking about a generation plus of watching on a Saturday
of Leek Courso, you know, taking off the head gear
now and then that's birthing all the different things we
see now and all the personality now that you see
in college football shows, whether it's going to be Dave
(33:15):
Portnoy tomorrow for Fox or Pat McAfee, whoever it is,
like Lee Corso was the guy that brought that great
sense of lightness to a set and knowledge and experience
and just a fun guy to watch talk about college football.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
And he was hosting that Saturday morning show before headgear
and before they were even doing the show live from campuses.
That's how long he's been on the show. Let's get
through the update because we can update the Colorado game
going on right now. It is early fourth quarter and
Georgia Tech has scored to take the lead twenty to
(33:48):
thirteen over the Buffalos. We've got about twelve minutes left
in this one. Plenty of college football tonight and a
massive amount tomorrow, but twelve's ranked Illinois right now and
on leads forty five three over Western It with eight
minutes to go. On Fox TV. Auburn has scored now
leads twenty four to ten at Baylor late in the third.
Also in progress, UNLV second quarter leads seventeen to seven
(34:11):
at Sam Houston. And the other games of note are finals.
And yeah, Wagner did lose at Kansas Jayhawks forty six
to seven the final.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Sorry, they'll get it back at basketball. Oh no, wait, no, wait,
that's what happening.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
They got Dwan Wagnery, some of the Wagner.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Hey Hall of Famer Billy Wagon.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
Apstate one at Charlotte Wake Forest Edge Kennesaw State ten
to nine, Michigan State beat Western Michigan twenty three six,
and it was Tarleton State winning an army in double overtime.
Of course, there is a game on Fox TV tomorrow
of note noon Eastern Time. It's number one Texas playing
at number three Ohio State. There's also Utah at UCLA
(34:51):
late Saturday night on Fox. The New England Patriots release
Safety Jabrill Peppers. Women's number one Arena Sableca advanced at
the US Open, and number four Jessica Bagoula won a
third round match in the WNBA Atlanta with a home
win against Dallas one hundred to seventy eight. The Dallas
Wings nine and thirty one this year, and to Major
League Baseball, yes, the Mets did win. The Mets hit
(35:14):
six home runs tonight in New York beat Miami nineteen
to nine, Juan Soto with his thirty third round tripper
of the year, Pete Alonzo with his thirty first and
the win to Jonah Tong in his major league debut
five innings, one earned run aloud.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
The Mets were up nineteen to four. They brought in
Luis Torrenz to pitch their catcher. He couldn't get out
of the ninth innings, so the Mets had to bring
in a real pitcher to finish.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
They had to bring in Ryan Stannik.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
So much for saving the Bullphad.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Lately Stannic hasn't been much better than a position pitcher,
but they brought it. It's like, oh, we can't win this.
We got to bring in a real pitcher to finish.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Out this game.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
The Yankees are leading ten to two at the White
Sox in the bottom of the ninth at Minnesota twins
ahead of the Padres seven to four in the bottom
of the seventh, Dodgers Diamondbacks score in the third. The Giants,
who won five in a row, lead to one over
the Orioles bottom of the first. We already had wins
for Milwaukee and for Philadelphia. Saint Louis won in ten
innings at Cincinnati seven five.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve O, Jason Smith, Steve
de Sager in from Mike Harmon.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Tonight.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Coming up next, we got the play of the day
and our first big pick of the weekend Texas Ohio State,
which Titan walks away.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
With the victory. That's next right here, Jason Smith Steve
de Sager in for Harmon. This is Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
The Jason Smith Show with Steve de Sager in for
Mike Harmon, Colorado a half yard away from tying this
game up against Georgia Tech, first and goal on the
half yard line after a Cadence Salter scramble twenty to thirteen,
eight minutes to go in the fourth quarter. More on
this game coming up in a bit, but time now
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one team in the Big Ten off to such a
big start. And when you're off to that big start,
(37:31):
and Steve Desager won a lot of money.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
Betting on you, you get to be the play of
the day.
Speaker 7 (37:36):
Fagan is the back and the pistol look snap back
to Altmeyer looks to.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
Throw to the end zone.
Speaker 7 (37:41):
It is caught touchdown Tanner Arkin. First touchdown of the air.
Ald Meyer to Tanner Arkin. And that looked pretty easy.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Lear Field Sports on the call.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
It's been pretty easy for Illinois against Western Illinois.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
The number twelve.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Five and lion I lead Western Illinois fifty two to
three with about five and a half minutes to go
in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
Steve, you had Illinois giving forty, so I think they're
feeling pretty good right now.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
They were only favored by forty. Alt Myers three touchdown
passes now, by the way, plus the team has over
two hundred yards rushing and over six yards of carry.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
I mean, look, Illinois is a team.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Like every year there's that one team in the Big
tench Like we talk about Michigan and Ohio State.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
We're gonna got to Ohio State, Texas in a second.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
You know, sometimes it's Wisconsin or you know, but really
it's it's Ohio State, Penn State, and Michigan. But every
year there's that one that other team. A boy, hey,
if not for the heavyweights. We'd be talking a lot
more about them. And Illinois might be that team this year.
I mean, Brett Bilma has done a pretty good job,
you know the left. You can feel it coming here
(38:50):
and now suddenly you know, preseason top fifteen team and
all obviously tonight it's Western Illinois there you know, the
winning in a route. But they could be that big
that fod in the side, big ten team that year
that hey, if we squeak out an extra spot in
the college football Playoff, maybe it's Illinois.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
It is a guy that's been well paid to be
the coach there, so maybe my standard the bar is
a little bit high. They need to be talked about
in the top twenty five for what he's earning, because
you know in the SEC where he earned a lot
of money. Pretty much everybody coach is a zillionaire, whether
you actually win something or not. And then he goes
(39:27):
to Illinois. Okay, he's got a great track record. You
know the Wisconsin years, we're superb. Okay, now you can't
be stumbling against Duke next game or no.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
No, no, no, no no listen, and if they don't win,
blame love Smith.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
It's Lovey Smith's So.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
That's sir, that's the name. Still. Believe me, I know
that's a name that's still on the tips of tongues
in the Alini Nation.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
So obviously we are getting forward towards the first weekend
of college football with all the top twenty five teams.
Tonight's the appetizer for what we're getting tomorrow Colorado. Just
as in the end zone, they tie this game up
with Georgia Tech at twenty a piece. Kden Salter throwing
a touchdown. Texas and Ohio State more points than you
(40:11):
think in this game. Arch Manning gets better as the
game goes on. Ohio State is replacing a ton of talent.
They're replacing coaches in different positions. They have a new quarterback.
Texas is gonna win the battle at the line of scrimmage.
They're gonna win this game thirty one to twenty three.
Their defensive line is gonna make it tougher for Ohio State.
Ohio State will be fine, but this is hey, You're
(40:33):
replacing a lot coming off the national championship. It happens,
and arch Manning will make a good amount of plays
with his legs more than his arm. Getting used to
new receivers now in Texas. But he's the real thing.
He's had enough experience last year. He's not gonna walk
in and suddenly boy playing at Ohio State in the
word's gonna be a bit.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
No, he's gonna be just fine. They'll put up a
lot of points.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
And I think there's a reason why people are jumping
to Texas here, which has happened over the course of
the last few hours of betting. Line has changed now
Texas is favored by a point and a lot of
books or a point and a half somewhere. But I
will take arch Manning over Julian Say in game one
and a team with a little bit more coming back
than they do, so I will take Texas thirty one
to twenty three.
Speaker 4 (41:14):
That's a lot more points score than I am guessing
for this game. Not just because it's two good teams.
I believe whether it's actually one and three, I believe
these are two excellent teams and will be very good
teams in the college football landscape this year. But first
game and not getting to you know, there's no preseason
in college football, not getting to get your feet wet.
(41:35):
I'm not sure it'll be that high scoring.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
All right, there we go. So hey, so Steve De
Sager says, take the under, Take the under.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
He hates march Manning. Steve de Sager hates arch Manning
hates arch man So again, we'll preview the other big
games throughout the show tonight, but coming up next way,
do we tell you what was said today the day
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