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Jason and Steve DreSaegher with all the latest and greatest from Bill Belichicks UNC coaching debut. NFL Insider Jason La Canfora joins the show. Arch Manning's failures are all Jason’s fault. And people will certainly enjoy ‘hate watching’ Bill Belichick’s games at UNC!

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Speaker 1 (00:29):
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and say, Grandpa, what was Bill Belichick's debut for North Carolina?

Speaker 3 (01:08):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:08):
And I'm gonna say, well, you mean the first drive
or the entirety of the game, which there's the difference.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
Your response is gonna be, well, let me tell you,
son about one of the great coaches in New York
Jets history.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Do you have enough time Game one at North Carolina.
He's already lost more games than he did as the
Jets said, coach, just to let you know out whoo
uh to go, Marv Albert on you not exactly what
Bill Belichick had in mind. Right now, early in the
third quarter, and I mean thirteen and a half to

(01:43):
go in the third quarter, TCU has rebounded from what
was a really great first drive of the game for
North Carolina. You really we'll have to spend a lot
of time that I'm talking about that first drive from
North Carolina when they were gonna be in the playoff
and they were gonna be undefeated and Belichick was gonna
jump back to the NFL in mid sex. I mean,
it was that great since North Carolina started out up

(02:04):
seven to nothing. First drive of the game touchdown run
by Caleb Hood Hey, fantastic, right. They panned out to
Jordan Hudson and Randy Moss and Michael Jordan, all the
great Broy Williams, all the great North Carolina Luminaries are there. Yeah,
TCU has now outscored North Carolina twenty seven to nothing
in that span, including first drive of the second half,

(02:27):
North Carolina down twenty to Sevenireian Barnes takes the handoff,
goes right and goes seventy five yards for a touchdown
to give the horn Frogs a twenty seven to seven
lead over North Carolina.

Speaker 4 (02:40):
In other words, after that great opening drive, even including that,
it's only four first downs for the night for the
tar Heels offense and they have yet to convert on
third down, zero for six right now.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yeah, this is what's called adjusting after the opening drive
is okay, we know what they can do. Okay, this
next drive is going to be better. And boy, it
has been a clinic now to to go realistic things
and tell you about stuff. Look reacting to this game
in real time. Now, this is not that surprising, Okay,
to just stop for I mean, I know, because because
it's Belichick. We'll get to the attention and how big

(03:13):
a deal Belichick is. But this result is not that surprising. Okay,
you watched tc This is the team that was when
a hair's breadth of getting to the College football Playoff
last year. Right, Josh Hoover is a really good quarterback. Man.
He is making NFL throws. They're running all over North Carolina.
This was an eight win team last year that was again,

(03:33):
was that close to making the playoff.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
Nine the bowl game, Yeah, you got.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
To talk about the boy. The ball games are tough
those teams because you know, I can't really say, hey,
what a bowl game, because it's like, yeah, sometimes teams
only show up with like eight players for bowl games.
You know, it's the whole thing.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
But it was in the street. As we talked about
last week, it was an extremely competitive conference that they
were in last year. Yes, and yes they were one
of those contenders. Yeah, and favorite on the road, correct
me if I'm wrong for tonight, Yes they were.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
They were. Look there, TCUs a good team, right, they're
a good team. This is a North Carolina team that
honestly is starting over. They were a five hundred team
last year. They lose a Murrai in Hampton to the NFL.
And of course, you know the season he had if
you do fantasy football, he's been a guy on everybody's
lips for the past couple of months. He was fantastic
at North Carolina last year. This is a North Carolina

(04:23):
team that Belichick comes in a lot of questions. The
recruiting has been going okay, right, Like he's getting the
guys he's supposed to get, He's getting the the you know,
the four star guys.

Speaker 4 (04:33):
He got his quarterback that we're seeing tonight after spring ball.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, proving that Hey, I'm still gonna
do stuff like I did it in New England and
maybe it doesn't work. But the big thing, the big
question is not, Hey, is this surprising for Belichick because
again North Carolina opening at home? Yeah, you never know,
because college football is that is that kind of a sport.
Let's just just ask Alabama. But seeing this happen, I'm

(04:58):
not as surprised. Like I am more surprised at Arch
Manning's bad and horrible weekend, which we'll get to in
a little bit. I am much more surprised at that
it is it is. It is my fault. Hey, Now,
Ohio State loves me even though even though my wife
went to Michigan. Ohio State loves me because we cursed
to Arch Manning. But I'm much more surprised at Arch
Manning than I am at this simply because yes, TCU

(05:21):
is good. But it's like, because North Carolina has become
and this is the big thing, is that no matter
what kind of season they have, the attention on North
Carolina it is going to mirror in every way, shape
and form what twenty twenty three was like for Colorado.
Deon Sanders shows up. It's a really big deal. Here

(05:41):
comes a legend. Yes, you know, a little bit different
path for Dion than Belichick because Dion goes Hall of Fame. Hey,
I'm coaching at FCS and I'm still in outsized personality,
was on NFL network for a long time. He jumps
to Colorado very brash, very arrogant, very we're gonna come
kick your ass, and all of a sudden that became
the story, Like that sucked up all the auction. He

(06:03):
brought in all kinds of of luminaries himself, right, all
kinds of legends to come to want to be his coaches,
and Warren sapp wants to coach. And there's all kinds
of attention for Deon Sanders in Colorado and it's come
beat us and it's very polarizing. But the attention on
Colorado is it was the deal, right, it was the
it was the thing, and all the way through September October,

(06:24):
they became must see games. Didn't matter that they were losing.
They became must see games because of everything that went
along with Dion and Shador and Travis Hunter and how
good he was. Right, they jumped onto the on the
onder the scene in a second, it's the same thing
here at North Carolina. Here's Bill Belichick. Wait a minute,
this is Belichick. Cut this cuts through the clutter again,
different journey for him to get to college football, but

(06:45):
still the same thing. You see all the celebrities that
are here at the game. He was the dominant story
in college football in the offseason, Belichick going to North Carolina,
Arch Manning of Texas right one two one two one two,
and you see tonight and the pageantry that's gone along
with this game. The only thing that rivaled it was
Texas and Ohio State Saturday because of arch Manning and
his big quote debut this time as Texas's starting quarterback.

(07:09):
So yeah, win or lose for North Carolina. This is
the story all year because this story becomes, hey, will
Bill Belichick win to what becomes more interesting, which is,
if he doesn't win, how long does Belichick have to
get it right? Because of the entire drama of the
off season with Jordan Hudson and the negative attention around

(07:30):
North Carolina football, they finally did the right thing and
they got it right in the off season by saying, okay,
no more interviews were staying away from this, and for
most of the summer the Jordan Hudson Bill Belichick drama
went away, but still it was really difficult. A lot
of negative attention brought to North Carolina. So the thing is,
if Carolina doesn't win, how long does Belichick have right
to really? Does he have more than a season? If

(07:53):
a recruit's gonna say I'm not going there, man, that's
just gonna blow up in a year like that becomes
the question. And here this game tonight in which TCU
is up twenty seven to seven, throwing the football all
over the field and aren't driving again for what could
be another score. That's kind of where you could be
going just in one night for Bill Belichick. From wow,
first drive of the game was we're going to the

(08:13):
playoff and now it's hey, how long does he have
to get it right before he's out like that. That's
how fast things change in college football.

Speaker 4 (08:19):
And also we brought up the North Carolina schedule last week. Yes,
they have a high profile game in that the NFL
hasn't started, and this is the loan game on the
docket for this Monday night to finish up the first
big weekend of college football. It's two unranked teams. Let's
be honest, but they're getting rolled. A loss by North
Carolina would not at all have surprised me, but to

(08:40):
be down twenty right after halftime, and the way they
have done nothing on offense after the opening drive. They
have twenty five yards of offense since that opening drive
touchdown when they went straight down the field and went
up seven to nothing. They're down twenty seven to seven.
That schedule that North Carolina has, fortunately for them, they

(09:01):
play almost nobody outside of Clemson for the next couple
of months. They have time to get it right and
do all the teaching that he wants to do. The
odd thing that you brought up the parallels with Colorado,
the attention there is that you had the high profile
coach with the NFL name and his son as the quarterback.
Here you have the high profile coach with the NFL name.

(09:24):
His son is the defensive coordinator that's getting rolled tonight.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
Yeah, I mean, is it's just just chunk yardage since
the second half started, It's chunk yardage on every play
for TCU. Like this is becoming a stat game for them,
right like this, I mean they just had they just
had had a quick out that got inside the twenty
yard line. But it looks like there's a holding penalty.
It's gonna bring it back.

Speaker 4 (09:45):
Still, They're gonna get close to four hundred yards in
three quarters.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
This is Yeah, this looks like Bill Belichick at the
end in New England, Like when he's on the sideline
with the big with the with the face with the mask,
the big wool mass. It just shows his eyes and
he's losing to the Jets the final game of his career.
Going okay, this.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
Is actually there is a parallel there too, because in
that case with the Patriots and in this case with
North Carolina, he was the general manager of the roster.
How's it going?

Speaker 1 (10:12):
Yeah, oh yeah, I mean look and and and that's
the and that's the whole thing with the drama of
Belichick and like again, how things change in just a
couple of quarters. Here is that, you know, people forget
that the off season for North Carolina was really rough, right.
It was every day there were stories about Belichick and
Jordan Hudson and what kind of uh what j Hudson
by the way, not a recruit for those No, yes, girlfriend,

(10:35):
Jordan Hudson at the game, at the game, by the way. Uh,
you know, I can't believe that Jordan Hudson hasn't found
a way to do something where hey, you only photographed
me next to Michael Jordan, like the two Jordan's, right,
the two jets. It the two Jordan's, and you credit
me first.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
And not Lawrence Taylor. Let's be honest. Transfer, I believe
is what the property is called.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
Transit And and hey, listen you right, and you font
on that screen the two Jordan's and you spell Jordan
the way I spell my name, not how he spells
is right? You say air Jordan, it's h E I
R j O R d O N. That's what we
want right there, And.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
Billy Williams was there, and mea Ham who played at
North Carolina was there. I mean, this was a big,
big night for the campus and to have that kind
of first drive. You're not kidding. I mean it's a
little bit of hyperboleon joking along like, hey, this season
might be just like this. I'm sure that's what some
people thought in the crowd after seeing that first drive,
and it.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
Said it's more like Jack Nicholson, as good as it gets.
Ra turned when he says to Helen Hunt, what if
this is as good as it gets.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
Right at this moment said, also, according Jack Nicholson, wait
till they get a load of me.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
I almost if Belichick could do it over again. After
that first drive in a touchdown, he goes out to midfield.
He waves to the crowd, takes his headset off and
leaves the field and says, that's SI goodbye. It was like,
oh my goodness, it was so great. It was so.

Speaker 4 (11:59):
Great, writes down on a piece of paper, I am
resign the New York Jets, the North Carolina tar Heels.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
It would be I resign as HC of U n C.
It would be just like that. But really, but like
that becomes the thing now is that you know, you
forget you have to win, right with all the pat
you know, the comparisons with Deon to compete and North Carolina, Right,
Dion didn't win the first year, but you remember he
was coming in taking over a program that was basically

(12:27):
a one win for franchise and line. Yeah, North Carolina
is a mid you know already was a mid acc program,
right they they they were kind of mid. So when
when Dion takes over and the first year, okay, they
only win a handful of games, but it's excitement, it's
more wins. It's you know, we have our quarterback. We

(12:49):
have a superstar coming back next year in Travis Hunter. Okay.
And then Colorado went last year and won a little
bit more and one a little bit more to say, Okay,
we're building on stuff now, all right, I get it. Okay,
so year three, now there's excitement for it. Now you
look at Belichick and he comes in year one and
it's a mid program. And if they're still mid or
they're worse, Like this is a this is not a

(13:09):
one to ten team or one eleven team. This is
a six and six, six and seventeen from last year,
it's a mid program. If this program stays mid or
doesn't win, like I mean it, like, what how much
time does he have? Like that's that's the weird, weird
because of everything that goes along with the drama of
having Belichick come.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
In and anybody who gets hired in his seventies elsewhere,
that is a legitimate question. How much time does he
have win or lose. By the way, and they weren't
quite mid in the conference standings, you know, the ACC
like all the other college conferences. I believe they have
eighteen teams in each league. Now, North Carolina was not
middle of the pack. They were better than Callen Stanford
in the ACC. Yes, those are ACC schools. Yeah, and

(13:49):
Florida State was dead last as we know last year,
but most of the conference was better than UNC last year.
They are starting at the bottom. It appears this.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
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seven lead for TCU on North Carolina, TCU knocking on
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Speaker 1 (16:11):
Fox Sports Radio. The Chase and Smith's Show is Steve
de Seger in for Mike Harmon, and I would like
to tell you that this North Carolina TCU game has
gotten closer. I said, I'd like to tell you, but
I can't. A scoop and score. Geo Lopez is sacked
a fumble return for a touchdown. Fans are streaming to

(16:31):
the exits now as TCU leads North Carolina forty to
seven extra point pending with seven minutes to go in
the third quarter. A night that began with all sorts
of pageantry, now it's an absolute blowout. Lopez is being
looked at on the sideline right now. He is hit
from behind, fumble the scoop and score again. Now a

(16:54):
forty one to seven lead for TCU over Bill Belichick
and north Ka line. I love more in this game,
coming up with a bit. But a guy that I
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(17:15):
is on Twitter at Jason Lock and for it is
Jason Lock and for it Jay, what's happening, man? How
are you well?

Speaker 7 (17:21):
I'm doing better than Bill Belichick, that's for damn sair Well.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
Didn't you say, hey, take TCU in the over? I
thought I saw that. Was that what your advice earlier?
To have that was that you was.

Speaker 7 (17:29):
I didn't have a lot on this game. I did
lean to TCU moneyline, but it wasn't. I just kind
of wanted to check it out, you know, I didn't.
I didn't want to let the past sort of affect
me one way or the other. I just wanted to
check out this operation for a few weeks.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
Well what do you think tonight?

Speaker 7 (17:53):
Man?

Speaker 1 (17:53):
What do you see? What? What do you see tonight?
From this game?

Speaker 7 (17:56):
I see hot garbage? I mean I see I mean
it's it's it's failure across the board here. Uh. You know,
whatever Freddy Kitchen scripted the first drive was cute and effective,
but right now, it looks like a lot of guys
who you know, the NFL kind of didn't want much

(18:19):
to do with, right didn't want to do a build
Belichick and they want to know Steve Belchick. They won't
much do with Freddy Kitchen, certainly not in a role
like this. I mean, they're getting absolutely humiliated here in
prime time at home. But you know, a TCU program,
that's a solid program, But come on, this is this

(18:40):
isn't a juggernaut. Ah. It might be a long season, man.
I don't want to go too crazy about one game,
but these are not guys who are accustomed to getting there.
They're accustoming humiliating other people Like I just wish there's
no way I'm making it up to this game I'm
too old for this, but like, God, can we just

(19:02):
fast forward to Belichick, you know, postgame, like, I mean,
he's gonna like because you think you can get away
with that same crap. I mean, you've never won anything
at this level, hoss, and you're getting absolutely destroyed. Like
we'll see if you think she can get away with that,
you know, obstinate rude, just sort of obfuscating crap that

(19:28):
he pulled whenever he lost in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (19:31):
He's on to Charlotte.

Speaker 7 (19:33):
Well, that line is guaranteed is a work in progress.
That line is a movement. Uh do what? Yeah? I mean, jeez,
I don't know. I mean they better be Charlotte.

Speaker 4 (19:46):
Bro or or.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
I mean, the thing is Jay is that it's gone
from the first drive of the game, which has been Hey,
Belichick's going to the play off. This is awesome too,
And I really because of all the drama what went
on in the off season, Like you lose like this
to TCU and obviously you're setting the tone for a
season where you wonder how long does he have, Like
does he have more than a season to win? Does

(20:13):
he have too?

Speaker 7 (20:14):
You?

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Like, what does he have?

Speaker 7 (20:15):
Right? I mean, like look this whole like these aren't
the idea of a recruiting class, Like that's hilarious, that's
pass right. You're recruiting him second to second, minute to minute,
like you know, whatever allure he had because of what
he did at the NFL level. If if this is
any indicator of what's to come, that buying's gonna leave

(20:38):
the best kids that you have there are gonna want
to go elsewhere. The ones you didn't play are gonna
want to go elsewhere. You have to be ready to
be a shape shifter every year and at this stage
of his life. Man, oh man, you know, I just
don't know, Like you got to get a whole another group.

(20:59):
Maybe it won't be like this year, but fifty something
kids to come and hitch their wagon to a dude
who then is what seventy four years old or whatever.
I don't know, man, Like I say, you better bet Charlotte,
you like, you better figure on that one out, hoodie,

(21:21):
because you don't beat Charlotte. Holy moly.

Speaker 4 (21:25):
Looking ahead. By the way, there's somebody on the show
who might or might not be a Syracuse fan, and
Halloween Knights Syracuse is hosting this North Carolina team. He
will be on the air directly after the show with
I'm sure much to say North Carolina probably has about
three months to get it together before they face rival Duke,
because that's looking like the only big game on the

(21:46):
schedule this year.

Speaker 7 (21:48):
Yeah, I mean, look, Sarahcuse was interesting, like they moved
the ball on when I think it's a pretty good
Tennessee defense, way more than I thought they would. But yeah, defense,
there's there's gonna figure some thing up defensively. But yeah,
I look, I think everybody in the ACC it's gonna

(22:13):
look pretty live against these dudes. If they don't, they're
already on the second quarterback like, well we'll.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
See Jason locking for NFL Insider our gust. All right,
So as we segue away from Belichick in North Carolina,
who just lost another fumble and now TCU is gonna
have the ball in uh North Carolina territory. You know
I'm gonna ask you both this. I was gonna say this,
but I'll do it right now. Uh what do you

(22:40):
think is just to get Yeah, it's not. What do
you think is the worst loss of Bill Belichick's career?
Worst loss but by losing by the most points points wise,
what's the worst Jesse?

Speaker 4 (22:52):
Margin?

Speaker 1 (22:53):
Yeah, just margin wise, what do you think it is?

Speaker 7 (22:56):
I mean, it can't be. This has gotta be pretty
damn close. I mean at the NFL level, did he
ever give you loose like thirty I mean give you
loose by thirty more than once, Mike, I don't know,
twenty seven points something like that. I don't know. Twenty eight.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
The Patriots lost thirty eight three to the Cowboys in
October of twenty twenty three. That's the worst loss. Yeah,
thirty five points. And now here we are right now,
midway through the third quarter, and we're already there, right like,
I mean, we are already there. For Belichick, this could
wind up being not only this debut, this could wind
up being the worst loss of his coaching career, which is, like,

(23:36):
you think about how things have changed from that opening
trive just from that, it's insane. Oh ah, So all right,
let's get to the NFL now. Obviously, speaking of the
Dallas Cowboys, you know, they're trying to move on after
Micah Parsons, and you know, I think the most interesting
thing this weekend, Jay was it didn't you know, not
not that it's you know, sunshine lollipops and rainbows of

(23:57):
the Cowboys because you let go the best defensive player
in the end, the fel you do it right before
the season. But it doesn't seem like and I don't
I don't think that Dak Prescott and some of the
other guys are putting this on. It doesn't seem like
the blocker room misses Micah Parsons. I mean, they they'll
miss what he does on the field, but doesn't seem
like from what we've heard and what they've talked about
him being a distraction his podcast, doesn't seem like they

(24:20):
really miss his presence all that much.

Speaker 7 (24:23):
Well, let's let's talk around this time Thursday night. Let's
let's table that discussion till around eleven Eastern on Thursday night,
and we'll see. We'll see if they're doing if they're
cat dancing and doing the moonwalk because Mike is not
there anymore. If that is in fact going on, I

(24:47):
think they're I think they got an area for a
long season. Now, I readily admit I think they were
in a long season with him as well. We can
we can certainly argue about what he did or didn't
do in the playoffs, what they did or didn't do

(25:07):
in the playoffs while he was on that roster. You know,
does he elevate people in January? I would still say, boy,
it's a small sample and a lot of those teams
weren't really built for January's success. But if you want
to make the case, well, he's about to become a
forty five fifty million dollar player, so you have to

(25:30):
factor that in. Okay, Like the Dallas Cowboys weren't your right.
They weren't winning with him, but they're not really winning
with anybody. They're not built to win, they're not constructed
to win. They're not able to win when it really matters.
But I certainly think he made their football team better.
I mean, I have a hard time believing if there

(25:52):
is an argument being made out there that now because
there's better camaraderie, they're going like I don't know, man,
I don't know what they're trying to sell in their
locker room or at the ownership level or shoddy, but
I think they're going to suffer. I think they're going
to suffer quite a bit.

Speaker 4 (26:13):
Do you have an idea of what parsons first season
with Green Bay might be like now that we get
the stories if he was getting back treatment before the
deal to Green Bay and now back treatment still And
I know it's a long term contract, but joint sprain
in the back. What do you think of his first
season for Green Bay?

Speaker 7 (26:29):
Well, look, I guarantee you that they gave him as
robust of physical as anybody's going to get for that franchise. No,
that's been fairly judicious about what it does, depending on
other teams players to invest that in someone who's never

(26:50):
played it down for them. I think their medical staff
is obviously very very comfortable with whatever's going on with
my parsis. And that's not to say that people don't
miss things sometime or whatever. But it's been a pretty
durable player. It's been a pretty effective player, you know.

(27:11):
He he uh. I mean I think look, I think
green Bay got a lot better and they say Dallas
got a lot worse. And we could try to we
could you know what I mean. We can try to
thread different needles and talk ourselves into you know, we
can navel gaze and we can try to get into

(27:33):
the apps tract. And it's like, again, you want to
sell me on cowboys culture like you can their cultures
suck forever. So like, do I think that this departure
is gonna make it markedly better? I don't because I
think they're going to be trailing by three scores at
the half way, more than they'd like, And I think
that tends to to to fray your locker room and

(27:55):
and fray your leadership. I think there a group of
independent contractors and he wanted to be paid as the
highest of them all, and at the end of the
day got personal between him and the old man, so
the old man didn't want to give it to him.
But yeah, they weren't going anywhere with them, and they're
really going nowhere without them.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
All right, Lastly, Jay News, Today, the Rams expect Matthew Stafford,
who missed a lot of time in Campbell and aggravated
disc in his back to start the season opener against
the Texans. Now, the Rams another terrific year, expecting a lot,
but here Stafford nearing the end. Back injury kept him out.
What's your level of concern for Stafford the Rams right now?

Speaker 7 (28:36):
Yeah, I mean I talked about wanting to see this
unc thinking you know thing before I invested in it,
Like I I do like the Rams I'm holding a
fair amount of Rams futures tickets. I've purchased them a
long time ago. I've purchased them a long time before,
you know, before spring, before you know he was missing
important stuff in the summer. You know. Look, they've they've

(29:00):
got a backup there they feel pretty good about. I'll
be fascinating to see if there are times through this
season if you know they're kind of keeping Stafford in
bubble rapp or or whatever, how what kind of precautions
they might take with this. I think they've built the
heck of a roster. I think the defense showed you

(29:22):
in the second half of the season, people who are
really paying attention what it can do. I think Devonte Adams,
if the quarterback is playing it, a quarterback is playing,
who's any good. I think he's going to have a
monster season. I think they've made adjustments to their run game.
I buck to shl mcsay about it. You know, I
think they're going to be more dynamic and more diverse

(29:43):
and what they try to run. I think they'll be
more successful running the football. That's a good football team.
I think it's one of the you know, if you're
telling me Stafford's mostly healthy. I think that's the top
three team in the NFC, but he had, look, I
had his share of injury issues. He's taking a lot
of hits over the years. He's nearing the end, so

(30:05):
they might they might be required to get a little
creative in how they navigate him through the season.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
He's on Twitter at Jason locking For That is at
Jason locking For. Hey real quick, So if I said
your super Bowl team right now, you preseason, where things sit?
Who's your pick?

Speaker 7 (30:23):
I like Green Bay Baltemarre. I mean I liked it
before Parsons. I bought those tickets before that trade. So
that's where I am.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
All right there it is again. Get more from Jason
locking For on Twitter at Jason lock and for Washington
Post Odyssey one oh five seven the fan in Baltimore. Jay,
Thanks a bunch, buddy. We'll talk to you next week.
We have real games to break down.

Speaker 7 (30:43):
There you go. You're Cowboys, see all right?

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Speaker 7 (31:09):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
Time Now to find out what's trending in the wide
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it or watch it on TV today, nothing more shocking
than the Grand Slam and triple from Juan Soto as
he leads the Mets by the Tiger. Steve de Seger
has more on that story right now with what's trending?

Speaker 4 (31:25):
By the way, can I ask, since it was a
holiday and maybe some people saw the Mets broadcast on
MLB Network, isn't it It's just a lesser broadcast when
it's only Keith Hernandez. Do you agree with me on that?

Speaker 3 (31:37):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (31:37):
Yeah? The booth. I mean, look, there's a reason why
that's the best booth in Major League Baseball. It's all
three of them. It's Darling, No, but it's Cohen and
Darling and Keith, and it's the best. It's and it's
been the best. Like that's one thing I can say
and you can't. That's the best booth in baseball. But yeah,
when it's just Keith Steve.

Speaker 5 (31:55):
We almost shared a elevator with Keith Hernandez. That's oh,
we will tell that story on her.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
I could tell it, I could tell it quick. But
that's the most. Uh, that's the most. I'll tell you this.
That's the most excited I've ever seen Frostburg in my
life when we almost shared an elevator with Keither nat.

Speaker 4 (32:12):
Because he's a big Seinfeld fan.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
Yeah, yeah, well, yeah, the lines he was gonna say
to him, Oh my goodness. Well, you know what, I'll
tell you that story in a few minutes.

Speaker 4 (32:20):
I'll say there was gonna be accidental spittle and you'd
have to reenact the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
And sure there would be a second spinner. There's lots
of three exactly. He was gonna say, nice game, pretty boy.
Yeah yeah, sure.

Speaker 4 (32:31):
Let's update the college football game at North Carolina. The
Tar Heels are in the end zone. Okay, so it
doesn't gonna mean much. Yeah, it's forty one thirteen now.
TCU is leading at North Carolina, extra point pending. We
have about thirty seconds left in the third quarter.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Yeah, but North Carolina's gonna go for thirty on this play. Yeah, good,
that's the thing. Yeah, they go for thirty.

Speaker 7 (32:52):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (32:53):
By the way, AP points out that the tar Heels
program has not lost by thirty points or more to
an unranked team. It's two thousand and eight when they
lost to Russell Wilson and NC State forty one to ten.
Right now, if the extra point's good, it's gonna be
forty one fourteen TCU and the lead at North Carolina
final minute of the third period. North Carolina now does

(33:16):
have more than one hundred yards of offense. Following that
great first drive, they went straight down the field to
open this game, seven plays eighty three yards and in
about four minutes took a seven to nothing lead. Hadn't
scored again until just now. In fact, their starting quarterback
Geo Lopez. His last completed pass was with at eight
twelve Eastern time, and over two hours later he completed

(33:42):
another pass.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
Wow, Andy, that's consistent, Steve. He will complete a pass
every two hours.

Speaker 4 (33:47):
Two hours, Yes, yeah, well give it another two hours.
There will literally be nobody in the stadium because half
of the people have taken off at this point. Goo
Lopez with one interception, one fumble tc you is just dominating.
I can't. I can't believe how night and day this
game is. After the first drive dominating at North Carolina

(34:08):
forty one to fourteen Rams.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
Well, really, the first drive North Carolina was great. This
previous drive North Carolina was great. Now everything in the middle, okay,
it's a little bit there, but that first drive, in
this drive, everything's great.

Speaker 4 (34:21):
Everything in between. They got outscored forty one nothing.

Speaker 7 (34:23):
RAMS.

Speaker 4 (34:23):
Quarterback Matthew Stafford, with the bad back, is expected to
start the opener Sunday against the Texans. Micah Parsons defensive
end was limited in his first practice at Green Bay
with a bad back. Naomi Osaka beat Cocoa Golf at
the US Open in a fourth round match in straight set.
It's a win tonight for Amanda and Nissimova of the
US WNBA wins for Atlanta and Minnesota to Major League Baseball.

(34:46):
The Mets won ten to eight at Detroit. Philadelphia won
ten eight at Milwaukee. Cincinnati with three runs in the
bottom of the ninth beat Toronto five for Toronto had
just scored three runs in the top of the ninth.
There's only one ballgame. I'm still going at the Diamondbacks
Arizona five to three over Texas. In the top of
the ninth inning, the Cubs in ten edged Atlanta seven

(35:07):
to six. Washington end today an eight game losing streak,
shouting out Miami two nothing.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve O. Jason Smith, Steve
de Sager in for Mike Harmon. Coming up next, Well,
the two biggest stories in sports this weekend Bill Belichick's debut,
which is not going well, and arch Mannings Texas debut
on Saturday, which somehow went even worse. Why Well, if
you listen to the show Friday, Yes, arch Manning's debut

(35:35):
is all my fault. We'll tell you why. Coming up next,
Jason Smith Steve de Sager in for Harmon. This is Fox.

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(36:15):
a best of version posted right after the end of
the show. So we'll have more on what is happening
or not happening. Well, it's happening in Chapel Hill right now,
early in the fourth quarter. A North Carolina touchdown has
cut TCU's lead to forty one to fourteen. So we'll
have more on this game. As Bill Belichick is screaming

(36:36):
at the referees now, things are getting a little out
of control in North Carolina. We'll have more on this
coming up in a few minutes. But look, clearly two
big stories this weekend in college football. Right, we watched
What's happening right now to Bill Belichick and Arch Manning
and his less than stellar debut with Texas on Saturday,

(36:56):
seven points for the Longhorns they fall to Ohio State
fourteen seven, and by any of it, however you want
to slice it, this was a bad game by arch Manning. Right,
you can say he's got time to learn and the
second half was better than the first, and yes it was,
but still only seven points. But however, you cut this up.
He was bad. Right, I'm just gonna look at that
third down throw on the final drive and you're saying,

(37:19):
what was that? How do you miss that? What do
you talk like? That's that throw?

Speaker 7 (37:23):
Is?

Speaker 1 (37:23):
It typifies the entire game for arch Manning. And this
is where it's on us, Steve, because we were on
the air Friday night and we talked about this going
in and I said, it's my fault. Like it's my fault.
It's all oh as Austin hates mean, You're right, Frostburg.
Austin hates me because what did I say? What if
arch Manning sucks? Like that's not even out there, That's

(37:44):
not even been a topic Like it's it's he's gonna succeed.
He's like eminem in eight miles. Success is my only
blank blank option failures? Not right, he's gonna what if
he sucks? He has been the poster boy for college
football the offseason. He has been the national story that
was gonna cut through and save the nationality of college football.
That the story. He's gonna be the coast to coast story, right,

(38:05):
not a college football is so regional. He's gonna be
the guy and he was just not good, Like what
if he sucks? And this is the narrative is gonna
stay out here, Steve for the next better part of
the rest of the month because they have three walkover
games until they get to their next good ones. So
this is a narrative that's gonna be out there for
a while with arch Manning.

Speaker 4 (38:25):
But I'll repeat what we said on the Friday show.
He was going against an elite defense in Ohio State,
so there was a chance that somebody getting his first
opening day start with Texas was gonna be made to
look bad because they made a lot of offenses look
bad last year. I know it's not the exact same
roster this year, and seemingly, you know, boatloads of guys

(38:47):
go to the NFL year after year off that roster.
But I don't know how many elite defenses like that
he's going to see this season. Point did he see
them last weekend?

Speaker 1 (38:57):
Well? But yeah. But here's the thing though, is that, Yeah,
I get it, Ohio State's good, but if you're a
really good player, you still play well in those games.

Speaker 4 (39:05):
Right, It's not what it's not play well. But I'm
saying to only score even if you know they had
scored on the fourth and goal. For example, even if
they had finished with fourteen points in the game, a
ton of opponents had only about fourteen points against Ohio
State last year.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
Yeah, but this is Texas, this is the number one
team in the cause. This is not this is not
like arch Manning decided to go to Syracuse and as well. Look,
they're not going to match up. And this is if
they Texas.

Speaker 4 (39:30):
Man, if they'd had Jaden Blue on fource and goal,
I think they would touchdown. But he's not at Texas anymore.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
Now, if they had Ricky Williams, they would have scored
on that fourth and goal.

Speaker 4 (39:39):
But no, I see many other times.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
But that's the thing, is that. Yeah, I get that
this wasn't a game where hey, he goes for three
point fifty and four touchdowns. No, I understand that. But
you look at some of the other quarterbacks playing against
really good teams, and still they moved their teams up
and down the field, right still, Kate Clubnick still moved
the team a little bit even though there weren't points
on the on the board. You know, we're looking and
in in Notre Dame where Carr moved Notre dame up

(40:03):
and down the field like you saw this, and and
Carson Beck in his first game, like you saw some
of the other top quarterbacks in tough games have decent games.
And Julian Saying just had an okay game too, but
you know, they didn't really ask him to do a lot.
But it was still, you know, not a great game
from Ohio States perspective. But this is arch Manning and
the number one team in the country, and you know
he's got some dudes on the offensive line, and yeah

(40:24):
he's got some new receivers. But I expected better than
that because how many throws did he just misses? Like
this is not like, hey, here's some coverages. He got
confused like theirs throws it he just has to make
and he didn't get He looked nervous in the beginning
of the game. And while yes, it did get a
little bit better for him, I mean, come on, seven points, Steve.
I mean, to number one team in the country, you can't.
I don't care if you're on the road in Ohio State,

(40:46):
if you're playing in dan Arctica on a glacier, you
gotta score more than seven points.

Speaker 4 (40:49):
They laid an egg. There's no two ways about it.
And it wasn't just the bad result for the team.
It was the nuts and bolts of quarter to quarter.
The quarterback that they're relying on for the full season
just not making the play. They didn't need him to
be superstar, and especially in a low scoring game, they didn't,
but there were I think you're the screen pass and

(41:11):
that you're talking about late in the game is a
really good example. They just need a starting quarterback to
complete that pass give us chance.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
Uh But again, I need to take take take responsibility
because this was my fault, Like I brought this up.
What if he sucks and and look what happened, Like,
that's my fault. That's my fault. That's on me.

Speaker 4 (41:30):
Can they play North Carolina next? Can we to the schedule?

Speaker 1 (41:35):
Yeah? That flexible scheduling, Steve, I think we're gonna college
football soon. Uh more on the biggest most shocking story
of the night next.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
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Steve Desager in for Mike Harmon and the clock is
ticking less than two minutes to go in the fourth quarter,
TCU knocking on the door. Don't know how many more
plays they're gonna run. They lead North Carolina forty eight
to fourteen.

Speaker 4 (42:16):
Should have had a running clock the whole fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
Well, actually, after that opening run of the second half,
the seventy five yard touchdown run like that should have
been the h That should have been the moment where
I was, Okay, we gotta run the clock here.

Speaker 4 (42:29):
That made it twenty seven to seven. It is now
forty eight to fourteen TCU.

Speaker 7 (42:33):
So here.

Speaker 4 (42:34):
Bill Belichick's had almost fifty years as an NFL head
coach or assistant. His teams never once allowed forty eight
points or more in a game. And in his first
night as a college head coach, forty eight for TCU.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
Five hundred and forty three total yards for TCU, and
the coaching staff has taken off their headsets. I don't
think TCU are the first and goal at the eight
is gonna run another play? I mean maybe they do.
I don't know. Be really weird, uh Jim, Yeah, well,
especially Hey, I'm gonna get revenge for all the times
Belichick did this in the NFL. Yeah, TCU. Yeah, they're

(43:12):
running a Neil down play. So that's gonna be a
final snap. This is gonna be a forty eight fourteen final.
The horn Frogs absolutely blow out North Carolina and it
was outside of the first drive of the game that
was as good as it got for North Carolina. We'll
bring you Bill Belichick's press conference when he maybe he'll talk.

(43:32):
I don't know. I mean he may just to say,
you know, I'm done.

Speaker 4 (43:35):
I think it will be a lot of dead air.
As we say in the business.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
They executed, and you know, we got some things to
work on offense, defense, special teams, you know, just some things.

Speaker 4 (43:54):
But just gotta get another hoodie.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
Ah. He is being escorted off the field. Oh, that's
gonna be a meme. Belichick gives the camera a huge stare, like,
don't get too close to me as he's being escorted
off the field.

Speaker 4 (44:12):
It was not him actually getting arrested. I think there
is surrounding him. There are as many law enforcement members
around him as there were points allowed to.

Speaker 5 (44:21):
He's in big trouble.

Speaker 4 (44:22):
Steven.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
I think so. I think they might have had I
think they might have more Mounties surrounding him than first downs.

Speaker 4 (44:28):
She'd be arrested for impersonating an acc football team.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
Ooh boy, Sunny Dyke's doing the postgame interview as soon
as Belichick talks, will bring it to you. But just
to finish when this game second, before we get to
would you like.

Speaker 4 (44:38):
To be the PR guy, the SI D at the
North Carolina program working with Belichick? If it's this kind
of season this year.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
Remember the scene in Airplane when Robert Hayes is just
sweating down his entire face. And that's what it's got
to be for to be the PR guy. Right now,
you spent the whole game like talking to people, Okay, great,
we got this, we got this. Yeah, we lose. Now
you walk in, it's like, oh and nobody.

Speaker 4 (45:00):
Like the nation is leaving. The attention is gone after
tonight for the rest of the season.

Speaker 5 (45:07):
I'm pretty sure I saw the sidach year AFTERCU scored.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
See that's the thing, Steve, I think you're wrong because
one thing we like in sports is a train wreck, right,
and this is not. Hey, a team that we thought
was gonna be good and you lose a couple of
games and they go away. Right If if Michigan isn't
good and they lose a couple of games. Look were
they in the national conversation last year? No, not really,
because they lost a couple of games down they come

(45:33):
back in at the end and they beat Ohio State
and it becomes a thing. But usually you lose a
couple of games in college football, we move on because
we don't have time for you, because hey, you're not
going to the playoffs. We know this, right, It's not
the NFL where you can start zero to three and
figure out.

Speaker 7 (45:45):
We know.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
We move on. But Belichick is such a huge story.
He's the Colorado and Beyond Sanders of this year for
twenty twenty three.

Speaker 4 (45:53):
Without them, but it was always effort vested and had
something to say, and he could create a story line.
Belichick's not gonna do any of that. And on their
twelve game schedule, ESPN was only scheduled to tear to
carry two other games of the rest of their season.
They're not gonna be adding North Carolina games.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
Now, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (46:14):
I I the belichickrama Stanford, Oh no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
But but the attention on it, it's it's look, it's
gonna be just like just like Colorado. Right, we talked
about coming in that it's like when Dion takes over,
right that you know it's some kind of new energy
and he's got some good players. But we saw after September, well, okay,
the overall end all be all because it was the
only story in college football. Okay, that went away a
little bit because Colorado started losing, right, Okay, and now

(46:41):
Dion was new to college football, and and the Colorado
story was like a comet, like it was white hot,
so you knew it couldn't stay white hot forever. Okay,
Colorado loses, things kind of go away a little bit.
With Belichick in North Carolina, Belichick is a different person
out we've talked about Bill Belichick. He's been a big
deal for the better part of the last twenty year.
Deon Sanders was a big star when he played. He's

(47:03):
on TV NFL network. Right, he went to become a
head coach an FCS and then got the gig at Colorado.
But it's different. Belichick is a much He's much more
and off the field storyline because of his relationship with
Jordan Hudson hitting whatever happens with Bill Belichick because we
could be looking at the end of his career of
a guy that we thought was the best head coach

(47:25):
in the history of the NFL with his Super Bowls
and and coming in and Brady and debating who's more responsible,
Brady Belichick, which way is it? Like Belichick's got a
lot more cache built up into this, and the failure
of Belichick is gonna have way more eyeballs on it
than the failure of Deon Sanders that first year with Colorado, right,
And that's why, you know, whatever it is for him,

(47:47):
it's like, man, yeah, maybe teams aren't picking picking up
on it, and maybe maybe you're gonna have to find
the game on CBS Sports Network or if the game
is on FS one, a North Carolina game and you
know when they play Charlotte, you know, or the oho
oh yeah, but right, you're gonna follow it.

Speaker 4 (48:01):
Right after the slippery steps, You're.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
Gonna follow it. And it's gonna be a story because
the fall of Belichick is just as intriguing as the
rise of Belichick. Like, if they're really bad or mediocre,
it's just the same as them being great. Now okay,
now them being great, obviously they'd be more attention their
games will be, but the attention we're gonna spend it,
people will spend talking about them. There's two stories this

(48:24):
college football season. It's Arch Manning and it's Bill Belichick
and that's not going away.

Speaker 4 (48:28):
Or this story of North Carolina's twenty twenty five season
goes the way of the torpedo beat, which nobody quickly
nobody talked about anymore. This team is going nowhere. And
one big difference compared to Colorado a couple of years
ago is you could tune in because we felt like
we knew the quarterback. Hey dion Son, Hey, you know,

(48:49):
maybe you watch the FCS, you know, HBCU title game,
or you know, there was something to see on the field,
and certainly Travis Hunter became something to see on the field.
This roster has none of that. So in a North
Carolina broadcast for the rest of the season, whatever cable
company picks up a game, if they do, unless they

(49:09):
show Belichick ten times on the sidelines, there may not
be much to see.

Speaker 1 (49:14):
Well, of course they're gonna show that. That's all they're
gonna show. It's that's Belichick, watch Shortan Hudson. But sure
it is, sure it is. But we love we love
the train wreck almost as much as we love dynasties.

Speaker 4 (49:25):
And what games, What North Carolina games are going to
get national?

Speaker 1 (49:31):
They will go crazy for Belichick, right. Belichick has been
antagonistic with the media with fans his entire career. They're
adding the way.

Speaker 4 (49:39):
Forest game and the UKF game.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
The Patriots got all.

Speaker 4 (49:42):
The team cheated on against all your teams. Everybody's gonna
want to watch. Network should carry it.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
Yeah, but I mean, but this is the thing. Is that? Okay?
So next week they play a four o'clock game against Charlotte, right,
just to just to play it out with me here,
and nobody's carrying it right right, No one's carrying it
well right now, ESPN plus has You'll be able to
get it if you really want it, right, But what game?
And it doesn't matter if you even watch the game.
That's the thing. It's all about the results. It doesn't matter.

(50:10):
Like you can watch Michigan and Alabama next week and
just keeping a oh man, North Carolina and North Carolina shark.
It's fourteen fourteen, midway of the fourth quarter. Oh my goodness,
what's gonna happen if they lose? It's just about the
result for Belichick in North Carolina. He's such a big,
oversized personality that is polarizing that people are gonna watch.

(50:31):
They will watch the fall. Yeah, they will watch the fall, right.
I mean there's some that want to see him succeed,
and him succeeding would be an incredible story because we
spend more time talking about the teams that are great regardless.
But when you have a team like the Dallas Cowboys,
if they stink this year, you think we're not gonna
cover them every single week. After the Micah Parsons trade,
they're story number one all year long. The Jets could

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be undefeated, they could be fourteen to zero. Justin Fields
the front runner for MVP. He's got thirty eight touchdown
come through twelve weeks, and if the Cowboys are four
and eight, gets what the number one story is? The
Cowboys being four and eight trying to find a way
to win. No, Mica Parsons, It's still gonna be that
way because that's kind of how we watch sports, It's

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kind of how we consume it. And the Belichick North
Carolina thing, it doesn't match. Just gonna keep going.

Speaker 4 (51:20):
After this atrocious and opening they lose forty eight to
fourteen at home to TCU tonight. It's not a bigger
story next Saturday Night than Michigan Oklahoma.

Speaker 6 (51:30):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
If North Carolina loses to Charlotte next week, I think
it's the same story. I think it's the same size
story as Michigan Oklahoma. It becomes the the one A
one or one A story of the week. All of
a sudden, Wait, you're owing too. You lost to North
Carolina Charlotte, You got Richmond coming up, and you still
haven't won a game. Oh my goodness, Like it becomes
that big a deal only because it's all it could be.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
Like.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
It's not like this could be Belichick where he loses
and we say, okay, this be the end of Belichick's career.
The NFL didn't want to be sure as hell. No
one else is looking saying, boy, we missed out bringing
Belichick back after this game. Correct, Like we're looking at
what could be the end of his career.

Speaker 4 (52:12):
By mid October. This might be like the Linsanity story.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
Oh hey, he just retired, Jeremy Lynn, he just over
the weekend, Steve, Yeah, he just retired. Man, give the
guy a little bit.

Speaker 4 (52:25):
I'm sorry, did I not see him play in North
America last year was a little bit. He was real quick.

Speaker 5 (52:31):
Just to know where Jason's coming from. Imagine your team
is the Jets, Sorry, but just imagine Patriots gave him.
People like Jason are gonna want to see. They're gonna
come out they hate watch Belichick.

Speaker 4 (52:45):
I'm just saying it's not a parallel to Colorado because
Colorado had a product on the field.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
Yeah no, but Colorado also when they started losing lost interest,
even with Shador Sander and Travis Hunter. Right, he's polarized,
but more people don't like Belichick than like him. Right,
Dion was polarizing. Right, He's more of a fifty to
fifty down the middle. More Belichick has been because of
how he's treated the media, how he's talked. He's not

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someone that gives you the warm fuzzies. But he has
a lot of people who respect him, obviously for what
he's accomplished in the NFL. But the flip side is
boy that got caught in two cheating scandals. So there's that.
But the hate watching for Belichick will be much bigger
than it ever was for Dion.

Speaker 4 (53:26):
It's September first, their next scheduled TV game is not
until mid October, so it's gonna be a Friday night
while the show is on, They're gonna play an ACC
game at Cal So being on the West Coast, it
literally will be on throughout the show.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
So between now and.

Speaker 4 (53:44):
Mid October, I just don't know how huge a story
on this show. It'll get talked about on it until
it just got.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
A they're on. I guarantee you next week they will
find a way to get that front and center. They
will find a way to get that on a better
way to see at the ESPN plus if you can.
But then the week after that, the game's on ACC Network,
which is on most cable channels, and the Clemson game,
which is TBD. You know they're gonna find a way
to put that on there. Bill Belichick against Clemson, who's

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likely still going to be a top twenty now if
Clemson loses the next three games. I lost this weekend,
but Clemson's still pretty good. Kate Clebnick is really good.
They lost a tough game this week, and I'm still
I'm not out on Clemson at all, but I'm sure
that game will wind up being on national TV. Then
you talk about cal like the Syracuse game after that
is on national TV.

Speaker 3 (54:30):
Too.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
I think you might, uh, Steve, this is that I
think you're you're underestimating the hate watching of Belichick.

Speaker 4 (54:36):
No, I'm not saying that people won't watch. I'm saying
as a story, the air is out of the balloon
as of tonight because there is no product on the
field to sell.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
Unlike Colorado, Steve Desager, who if he was the AD
at North Carolina, would fire Bill Belichick after tonight. He
would walk in and say, well, Steve, say Bill, you've
had it. You and Steve, Michael Lombardi, everybody get out.
I'm changing things up.

Speaker 4 (55:03):
Start with Jordan, and I don't mean Michael. College football
had well, they had all the eyebells eyeballs on themselves
tonight because you know, the NFL hasn't started. So the
Monday night football matchup was TCU down seven to nothing
quickly at North Carolina. Eventually, the horn Frogs beat the
tar Heels forty eight to fourteen. TCU had over two

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hundred and eighty yards passing and almost two hundred and
sixty yards rushing as well. This was the debut of
coach Bill Belichick at UNC. Rams quarterback Matthew Stafford with
the bad back. He's expected to start the opener Sunday
against the Texans. Stafford has practice fully for the past
two weeks, and he is expected to do so this week.
Defensive end Micah Parsons was limited in his first practice

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at Green Bay. He has a joint sprain in his back.
Forty nine Ers wide receiver Juwan Jennings practice for the
first time in over a month after a calf injury.
He also wants an extension. The Steelers gave running back
Jalen Warren a two year extension worth a reported twelve
million dollars guaranteed. Running Back Najie Harris, now with the Chargers,
says he expects to play in the opener Friday after

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the July fourth eye injury. He was just cleared for
full practice. Chargers wide receiver Quinton Johnston cleared concussion protocol.
The Chargers opener is in Brazil Friday nights against the Chiefs.
The NFL's regular season opener is this Thursday, Dallas at Philadelphia. Eagles.
Wide receiver Aj Brown said he will play after a
hamstring injury. Naomi Osaka beat Cocoa Golf at the US

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Open in New York today in a fourth round match
six three six two. Number two Egos Fiantec also advanced,
as did number eight Amanda and Nisimova. Men's number one
Yonnick Center one easily. Venus Williams wonder doubles third rounder
today with Leila Fernandez. Three w NBA games.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
You know, see you say what that was on today
and tennis. The ten tennis was on when I was
I was. We were over friend's house, hanging out for
a barbecue, and all of a sudden, my wife goes,
Venus Williams is still playing.

Speaker 4 (56:57):
Jami question, but it's doubles, so you know she can
keep advancing. At age forty five, she was out pretty
quickly trying to play the singles. But three WNBA games.
Atlanta won at Connecticut ninety three seventy six. The Connecticut
Son now ten and thirty. This year, Minnesota won again,
beating Dallas ninety six seventy one. The Dallas Wings are

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nine and thirty two. The late game at Seattle has
the home team up on LA seventy eight seventy with
about seven minutes to go. And if you're asking about
Caitlin Clark of Indiana. She did not play again yesterday,
still out with the groin and ankle injuries, but at
least she was at shoot around a week ago. Their
regular season ends September ninth, about one week away. The

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late ballgame was a pretty good one for the visitors.
The Texas Rangers got two runs in the ninth to
tie two in the tenth to win at Arizona seven
to five. Everything is now final. Baltimore won at San
Diego four to three. Padres reliever Jason Adams suffered a
ruptured quad tendon. The idle Dodgers first in the NL West,
now two and a half games over the Padres. The

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Dodgers play at Pittsburgh and Baltimore this week. Houston beat
the Angels eight three, while Seattle lost ten to two
at Tampa Bay. Seattle now three games back at first
place Houston in the AL West. I mentioned the Texas
ten inning win. That's their sixth victory in a row.
Boston and San Francisco with victory. Cubs won in ten innings,
Philadelphia ten to eight winners at Milwaukee. The Phillies first

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in the NLA, still six games over the Mets, who
won ten to eight at Detroit. Juan Soto, by the way, well,
it was a first to have a go ahead Grand
Slam and a go ahead multi run triple in the
same game had never happened before. He winds up with
the six ribbies that save to Edwin Diez ten eighth
the final at Detroit, but Cincinnati got three in the

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bottom of the ninth to win its home game against
Toronto five to four. The Red still four games out
of the last NL wild card behind the Mets. Back
to you, but I do.

Speaker 1 (58:51):
Want to say this, boy, remember when Juan Soda was
absolutely miserable with the Mets and things were so awful. Yeah, yeah,
he's gonna fourth good Infendel four already home runs, one
hundred and ten RBIs everything is fun.

Speaker 4 (59:02):
An awful season, Everything is fine.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
Now It's different when I say, hey, did you know
Stephen August the Mets scored more runs in August than
they did in any month in their history. But they
were eleven and seventeen. That's right, eleven and seventeen.

Speaker 4 (59:16):
Where is the starting including today? Where is the starting pitching?

Speaker 1 (59:19):
The last Steve, there's two starters we can trust in.
One of them is Jonah Toong, who has pitched five
innings at the major league level. It's Nolan mclan and
Jonah Toong and that's it, Like, that's really it.

Speaker 4 (59:30):
That's kind of astounding.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
Actually, at least tomorrow's like Cline Day.

Speaker 4 (59:33):
So you know, Philadelphia's such a good team. If they
had Diaz as a closer, can you imagine to the
Moon they would go, This is a good team lacking
the back end of the bullpen. Something the Mets actually have.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
Exit out, but yeah, it's the other bullpen to get
there is a struggle.

Speaker 6 (59:50):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
Jason Smith Steve Desager in for Mike Harmon tonight