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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 1 (00:31):
Greetings, Welcome inside, Happy Thursday, Jason Smith's Show with my
best friend Mike Harmon. Well dressed to live from the
Fox Sports Radio Studios. Hur we jump right into Thursday
Night football. Maybe the Commanders are gonna make a play
at some point, although ooh boy, that last play looked
really painful for Jayden Daniels. A fourteen to three lead

(00:54):
for Green Bay right now early in the third quarter,
looks like it's gonna be a field goal attempt for
the Commanders to try to cut this to fourteen to six.
It was a big sack by Micah Parsons. And look,
when we picked this game last night, I said Packers
are gonna win this game. These are the games you
get Micah Parsons for when you have a quarterback that

(01:16):
is absolutely this good in Jade and Daniels and someone
who stresses your defense, not just throwing the football but
getting outside the pocket. Accounting for Micah Parsons in a
game like this is paramount. And as you've seen in
the course of the first half, there's plays where he
is triple teamed and he's still affecting the play. And

(01:37):
again the big sack right here. He had two pressures
in his first fifteen snaps alone. This is why this
is a now a fourteen to three game because doink sorry, buddy,
I know, doinke, I know it's.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
A well, it only counts if it's a double.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
But you are seeing, yes, the Packers' offense is playing well,
Jordan Love is playing well, and Josh Jacobs is running
the football well enough to running the ball okay, but
you can see this is not a Commander's offense that
is in sync. And when you throw the prospect of hey,
here comes Micah Parsons, all of a sudden, this Packers defense,
as good as it is, it may be league best

(02:12):
among the league best. Here you see why it's fourteen
to three and all of a sudden, hey, wait a minute,
maybe the Packers are a real Super Bowl team. Hang
on a second. They beat the crap out of the Lions.
The Lions couldn't score. They're beating the crap out of
the Commanders. The Commanders can't score. Hang on a second,
Maybe Jerry Jones just handed the Lombardi Trophy to the
Green Bay Packers.

Speaker 4 (02:32):
Well, we watched the mural that they keep showing out
there that says thank you, Jerry, with the painting of
him all teary eyed and Micah Parsons smiling. On this
last play, you have the ability to just run past
the right tackle who really couldn't even get out of
his snap, tried to tackle Michaeh Parsons and failed. I

(02:52):
was surprised we didn't see a whistle at the end,
because clearly that play had been blown dead long before
Jayden Daniels got thrown to the turf. But we lived
to see another day. On both sides, the Packers have
just dominated this game. You've had a couple of field
goal attempts for Washington. You just called the doink there.
Going back to the last nineteen seconds of the first half,
you had a fifty eight yard miss that just was short,

(03:16):
and then the Packers got straight into position for a
long field goal attempt, but it goes off the upright.
So those that were over betters thought they were gonna
get some extra juice. But we've watched the defense terrorizem
and I think Washington right now wishes they'd tried to
solve things with Brian Robinson before sending him away because

(03:36):
they have no running game. Bill Bill Crosskey Merritt and
Austin Eckler have been invisible. Daniels has been underseas. You
mentioned the Parsons stats right off the jump, and he's
been uncomfortable all night long trying to slide in the pocket.
You had a big miss to Noah Brown. That was
the one big play that they might have had for

(03:58):
the offense that went asunder. Conversely, Jordan Love averaging sixteen
yards per completion. That's bolstered by that big Tucker Craft
catch and run. But overall they've been able to space
the ball and push down field. Offensive line, even missing
two starters for Green Bay, has held up quite nicely
for Love to be able to deliver the ball downfield. Now,

(04:18):
Golden had a couple of would have, should have, could
have that are just incompletions. They don't help your box score,
your fantasy team. And then you have the big Jayden
Reid play taken back off a holding penalty. But Packer's
doing whatever they want right now.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
Look and look, and the Golden play was just a
complete you know, in the first half when they go
for it on fourth down and Lafleur is just incensed
that they run up to the line of scrimmage to
try to go for it on fourth and three and
the officials make them wait to snap that football, and
he is screaming.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
What do we doing? Why are we waiting? Why are
we waiting?

Speaker 1 (04:51):
And at that point you're like, okay, maybe they're going
to make another decision. But Love drops back in the
shotgun and he's got Matthew Golden wide up and it's
a touchdown and he's three steps by he underthrows the football,
right He just I mean that that should have been
another touchdown and it should have been even a bigger
lead for Green Bay than it is right now. But
all of a sudden, like I think the happiest team

(05:11):
in the NFL now outside of the Packers are the Lions,
because they're like, wait, wait a minute, maybe we are
still really really good. And wow, now we just got
to get used to this defense with Micah Parsons because
maybe maybe it was a little bit not as self
inflicted and things we have to clean up. Just at Hey,
there's now a new beast of a defense because they
got the best defensive player in the NFL. And it's

(05:31):
something we got to navigate because look, these are these
are two high, very prolific offenses for different reasons. The
depth of the talent of the Detroit Lions and the
absolute talent of Jayden Daniels to make everybody around him better.
And you've seen two different styles of offense in the
last two weeks that the Packers have faced, and they're

(05:53):
dominating the first team and they're dominating the second team
right now, like this is all This is like one
of those sea change games where if this holds, you
walk away from tonight going oh, man, I know we
talked about teams like the Rams and the Eagles who
just won, and the Chiefs and the Ravens and the
Bills up, but maybe this is the Packers who are
going to run away in the first half of the
season as the Super Bowl overwhelming super Bowl favorite I

(06:15):
mean sometimes it is as simple as when you take
the best defensive player in the NFL in his prime
and you PLoP him on a team where he is
basically a plug and play guy. Right There's certain positions
where if you're a safety, if you're a middle linebacker,
you're a defensive tackle, okay, affecting the games. But when
you're a linebacker and you're and you're a rusher and
you're getting the quarterback, like, hey, we'll put you right

(06:35):
in and you go right. This is why these guys
certain positions come into the league right away, and you
can tell if a player is good because it's about
taking advantage of your athletic ability and being able to
jump into a spot and not have to have so
much responsibility. Right running backs right away, we find out
when they come into the league, Hey you're good or
you're not.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
Right away.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
You have vision, you can hit the holes, you know
how to cut like you see. You guys are at
running back are good right away. Sometimes other positions takes
a little bit. Right wide receiver, tight end takes a
year or two to get involved in the offense. But
running back, edge rushers, these are the big plug and
play positions where it's okay, you come in here, you
are get the quarterback X, Y and Z, and it's

(07:15):
a lot less to have to worry about fitting into
a scheme. Micah Parson's been able to come in and
just say, yeah, I'm here, let's go. Let's ride, like
doing the whole hustle. Let's ride, Let's ride Backers Country,
Let's ride.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
But that's sick.

Speaker 4 (07:26):
You get the big gift for Hathley the defensive corner.
They were already the sixth best defense last year in
terms of points allowed per game, Chargers at the top
of the list, but the Packers were sixed right there
with Minnesota in terms of disruption. Now you get rid
of you know, a guy that once upawn a time
was a big run defender and in the trade with Dallas.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
But you watched as these first two games. You watched
it with Detroit and their line trying to come back together,
guys injured, whatever, new coordinators. There's a lot going on
in Detroit.

Speaker 4 (07:56):
But here with Washington, you know you got Laramie Tunsell
answering and trying to figure out where Parsons is coming from,
trying to neutralize that rush and get that anticipation. Everything's
thrown just that beat or two off. In terms of
trying to get your coordination, Cliff Kingsbury has the task
cut out for him because last week wasn't terribly clean either. Right,

(08:19):
they beat the Giants, but that was more I think
we walk away saying that's because the Giants aren't very good. Right,
Washington succeed and proceed, and then you get this game
week two, on the short week, and you've been dominated
from pillar to post. Right, Jaydon Daniels been off the spot.
He completed a pass to Terry mcglaurin finally, where I
think everybody exhaled because and even that he had to

(08:42):
juggle before he pulled it. In defensive backs getting to
play a little more freely because you're getting that consummate
pressure up front trying to account for parsons, which means
your running backs have to be engaged in a way
that they're normally not right, because that's the other part, Right,
we don't certainly don't want to dismiss running backs and

(09:03):
the edge rushers and what that transition to the league is, right,
they still have to be special on that next level.
For running backs, you actually have to go in the
past protection, how many guys fail at that, And that's
what we're watching tonight. You've got to keep the extra
guy back there, or keep your tight end in to
try to get to you an extra blocker to give

(09:24):
Daniels time to operate. So yeah, I think if you're
in the NFC North and the NFC as all you got,
the eyebrow rais going, Yeah, they were already good. Now
they're that much better.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
Look and the flip side of it, Jason Smith Mike
Carmon Live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. It's not
as if, well, hey, Micah Parsons joined the team. Their
defense is really good and it's going to bail out
the offense. This is a Packers offense that was looking
for a springboard from last year. We thought last year
was going to be a really big improvement for them,
but nobody really stepped up to say, Okay, I'm the

(09:56):
true number one. Maybe it was going to be Jaden Reid,
but the Packers have shown that Hey, we love Jordan
love he's our guy, and we're gonna continue to throw
depth that you at wide receiver and good luck stopping
our guys, right, No, Jake Jaden Reid got hurt early
in the game tonight, but it doesn't matter. Tuckerkraft is
over one hundred yards, right, A couple of the Dantavian
Wicks has more targets than any wide receiver so far.

(10:18):
Romeo Dubbs has a touchdown, right, Matthew Golden should have
had a touchdown, Like, it doesn't matter, like for fantasy,
everybody hates it, right, I don't know who, Yeah, sorry
about that.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
That's the way it goes.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
But the way Jordan Love is And this might be
a year where where Jordan Love sort of reminds everybody. Yeah,
I'm that I'm in part of that next generation too
of great NFL quarterbacks. It's not guys like Jayden Daniels,
because I will take the guys that I'm playing with
and I will make them better because none of these
receivers are incredible. Like you look at Wicks and Dubs

(10:50):
and say, okay, how good are the Are they great?

Speaker 3 (10:52):
Are they not?

Speaker 1 (10:53):
And again, you're missing guys too, right, Watson, You're missing
and and and now you know who knows with Reed,
But it's like none of these guys are unbelievable, Like
you take them, put them under the team, it's like,
oh yeah, okay, they'd be good number two receiver. But
when you have that kind of depth, and when you
have five umber receivers, it's early to play a Phillies
highlight tight shirt. We don't need it right now. We

(11:14):
don't need that until play of the day.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
Okay, light tip, thank you, I bet uh so.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
But when you have four or five number two ish receivers, yeah,
you're gonna find the mismatch and it's gonna be a
different guy every week. And you know, look, I don't
think anybody had Tuckerkraft on the night tonight with a
he's got one hundred yards receiving midway through the third quarter.
But it doesn't matter every week and could be something
different and offensively for the Packers to take that next step,

(11:44):
and for Jordan Love especially to be that quarterback that
we now view him a little bit differently as Okay,
maybe he didn't really need that. No, they just keep
getting him help. Right every year, it's in the track.
We keep adding receivers, adding receivers. Wet Well, we had
a couple of guys Watson and Reid. Now we had
Matthew Golden and just keep giving him help cycle through guys,
and that can work to an extent, right, The Chiefs
have tried to do that the last few years. It's

(12:05):
just they have not been great at analyzing the talent.
Now finally, hey, Hollywood, Brown, Rashid, Rice, Xavier Worthy, if
they can ever get the three of them on the
field together at the same time, things might work out great.
But you're kind of seeing it in Green Bay a
little bit here now where Hey, it doesn't really matter
who the number one is if they have a number one,
if it's difficult figure out which guy to play every week,

(12:27):
like this is now working for the Green Bay package.

Speaker 4 (12:29):
Oh you go back to last year too. There's two
things that playoff. Remember Jordan Love got hurt in that
Brazil game, so there were the questions of, you know,
his health and maybe how you may have changed a
little bit and trot to play going. You also had
Josh Jacobs come in and score fifteen touchdowns. Right, he
scores fifteen touchdowns, So some of those red zone opportunities

(12:50):
that might have gone to Craft or other options in
the passing game are suddenly sucked away. So the stat
line and it's twenty five and eleven for Jordan Love
last year doesn't look nearly as daunting. Right, only passed
for thirty two hundred yards. Well, if I've got a
guy rushing for fifteen hundred yards and fifteen touchdowns and
I get to pull the strings, if I'm Matt and Lafloor,

(13:12):
I'm feeling pretty good about it. Because you're watching as
this game goes on tonight, You're expending a lot of
energy in that front seven trying to make sure that
Jacobs doesn't get off and hit that second level. Well,
what's that doing. That's giving you man coverage down field?
And Jordan Love's just picking them apart.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
If if I can look for a perfect night right
after picking the game tonight, packers here, Micah Parsons, this
is why you get them. The only thing I'm really
I'm like, okay, Josh Jacobs, if they're winning here in
the second half, Okay, over eighty yards?

Speaker 3 (13:44):
Right? That was my big thing last night?

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Right and DraftKings was hey over under eighty point five
and he's I would guess you would say kind of
on pace, just because you know they'll be more run
heavy as the game goes on. To get a little
bit more responsibility because they're playing with a lead here
in the second half. But I'll sitting here going come on, man,
get to that eighty and a half, go ahead, get
there for me, man.

Speaker 4 (14:04):
Get it tighted it out well. I mean that efficiency again.
Sixteen completions for Jordan Love for two hundred and sixty
five yards. You're pushing the ball down the field and
having a field day, no question about it. Saving on
Williams just one carry. Matthew Golden had a wide receiver
running issue, and then you had a play, I should say.
And then Jordan Love with one carry for fourteen yards.

(14:25):
Jacob's averaging four yards of carry, nice and steady as
they go.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
It's fifteen carries for sixty yards. Midway through the third quarter,
a field goal for the Packers. They get stopped on
third and goal. It is seventeen to three. Again, as
you said, Jordan Love two to sixty five in a touchdown.
Jacob's at sixty in a touchdown. Micah Parsons forcing the
Commanders into all kinds of difficulty just by being on
the field.

Speaker 4 (14:48):
Time and possession over twenty three minutes thus far for
the Packers in this game. That pretends, dude, we're gonna
hit the eighty in short order.

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(18:18):
three packers with the lead, though the commander's defense gonna
force them into a punt on fourth and long from
their own end zone. Tonight it's gonna be a jail break.
So if you're gonna get something from the Commanders. This
kind of has to be the time.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
Again.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
Late in the third quarter, they've been able to muster
basically zero offense, and the the the mental flatness that
hits you after Hey, you finally get a little something
going on. You drive down the field and you joint
the field goal off the upright. Yeah, that's gonna be
something that's gonna stick with you a bit. So this
might be it, Like this might be the last chance
we really get to see them do something. One more

(18:55):
score by the Packers and this game's done.

Speaker 4 (18:58):
Honey, out of zone end zone. Love pushed off the spot.
You know, you have to account for Parsons on one side.
Somehow the Packers' offensive line forgot to account for Bobby Wagner,
who comes in to terrorize Jordan Love to get the
ball out fast. Tucker Kraft was wide open towards the
right sideline, but there's no chance for Love to set
his feet and make a throw. So we'll keep you

(19:19):
updated on this game.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
We got more from the NFL coming up in a
second because we had a big injury to break down.
But just just this for it, because I feel like
this is a story that is getting too much attention
because not enough people care about it. But so it's
good to do and say, hey, I don't think this
story is that big a deal.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
Okay. So we have this whole.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
Drama with Kawhi Leonard and did the Clippers circumvent NBA
rules with this ridiculous endorsement deal that gave him an
extra game the game extra money twenty five million dollars
for a no show jobs like college for a dollar or.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
Like any mob movie from the eighties and nineties where.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
He's supposed to do public relations or appearance is for
a company that he's not gonna do any of them for.
And you know, every couple of days there's an update
on this story. And there's a report today that links
Kawhi Leonard's pay to one of the Clippers investors, and
all this Pablo Tory finds out stuff. This is where
he's going on. He's finding got everything. Now he's a

(20:18):
new investigative reporter. He's the twenty twenty five answer Geraldo Rivera,
i'mbout aj Benza. We're gonna open this to him fame, Okay,
I miss aj Benze. I just like saying his name,
aj ben should we try to get him on the show.
I think we could call him right now and he
would come on. Well, let's make it happen. So you
have this story out here that the Kawhi Leonard got

(20:38):
money and he probably shouldn't have gotten it, helping the
Clippers circumvent the salary cap and Steve Balmer goes on
sports and right after saying I've been duped. I'm one
of the biggest businessmen in the history of the world.
I've been duped. I got we got duped on this.
I don't I can't believe this. Yeah, okay, So this
story is going on, and I feel like this is
a story that is it's called It's fun for five minutes.

(21:00):
Like when you're in a when you're in a mall
and you're walking down and there's the kiosks in the middle,
and there's the one guy that's got the hovercraft or
the helicopter that he's flying over with the remote. You
watch and go wow, and the kids all look and.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
Go ooh, can I get that? That looks so cool?

Speaker 1 (21:14):
And you're watching somebody do and you're like, oh, yeah,
that's kind of cool. And you watch for a couple
of minutes and then all right, okay, and then you
move on, you go down right done with it. Sure,
it's something that's fun for five minutes. You bring it
back home and you realize after playing with it for
three minutes, it's not working that well. You don't know
what's going on. Oh the roator is bent, or I
don't know what's happening. Maybe we didn't get get charge
of batteries a long time, and you forget about it.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
He blew it into a curio and now mom's mad.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
I mean, whatever the case may be, it's fun for
five minutes, right, It's fun for five minutes.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
And I feel like that was this story when it
came out.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
It was whoa, this is kind of interesting, no show job,
clippers getting it? Oh now, potentially the next investigation is
the Nicks and Jalen Brunson because he took a lot
less money. But I feel like nobody really cares about
this story, right Like this, this is something that I
think maybe the top one or two percent of fans
care about, and and and people who are are very

(22:06):
active on social media as reporters and insiders care about it.
But I don't think the general fan gives a crap
about this, because really, number one, what's gonna happen? They're
not gonna ta Kawhi Leonard away from the Clippers. What
are they gonna do. They're gonna find you money. Okay, Bomby,
find fifty million dollars, I'll pay fifty million dollars. We
got Kawhi Leonard. What's it gonna be. We're gonna find
you draft picks. Okay, we lose a first round draft pick?

(22:28):
Who knows if these picks are any good?

Speaker 3 (22:29):
Anyway? Like, what are you gonna do?

Speaker 8 (22:31):
Like?

Speaker 3 (22:31):
What what's the outcome that's gonna be?

Speaker 1 (22:32):
Whoa?

Speaker 3 (22:33):
This is terrible? Same thing.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
Let's say they go to the Knicks. What are they
gonna do? Jalen Brunson can't play for the Knicks. They're
gonna find the next money take them off. That's that's
not gonna happen. It will it will watch if any
team finds a way to lose a player, though, it
will be the next He's going to the bulls. Oh,
we didn't know, we didn't, we didn't know. He got
put on the bulls. But what's the outcome? What's the where?
Where does this story end? Where it's a Wow, right,

(22:56):
it's gonna be a fine. It's gonna be a team
is gonna lose a draft pick. And what are the
Knicks gonna say, yeah, we'll trade a first or any
team in FIA, I should say, in theory, because my
team doesn't do anything wrong.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
Uh, what are they gonna say?

Speaker 1 (23:08):
Yeah, we were able to figure this out, keep our
star player end bring in other players to help us compete. Okay,
we'll pay a fine. You take a draft pick from us.
It's okay, first round read unless we're picking first and
we're getting Wemby. You can take the first round pick
for me. It's not that big a deal. I don't
see the end game for this, and I think the
average fan is like, yeah, well it's interesting, but okay,

(23:30):
like an everyday thing and being something that, oh, this
is gonna gonna push the needle on this story.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
I don't see it.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
Even the NBA, like Adam Silver said, hey, it's on
us to prove it. Whoa, whoa wait, whoa what do
you mean it's done? You to prove like this is
a story that's out here and there's proof. This is
Adam Silver saying, hey, it says enough to prove it
if we want to. You really think they're gonna go crazy,
try to prove it, dude.

Speaker 4 (23:49):
It's getting put in a create with the Ark of
the Covenant and in the warehouse.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
This makes this is an embarrassing headline for the NBA.
Adam Silver wants nothing to do with embarrassing headlines. He
actually wants nothing to do with running the NBA. He
just likes being called the commission, So he's not gonna
do anything. He's not gonna go crazy for this investigation,
saying it's on us to prove it. What hey, you
know what may be too difficult for us to prove,
just so you know, we may not be anything from this, right.
This is basically what he's telling everybody. I don't think

(24:15):
this story is really that big. Again, it was fun
and shocking for five minutes, but now the every dad
like real, I don't think people care.

Speaker 4 (24:22):
This is the same guy that, after he fleeced all
these networks and streamers to pay them a lot of
money for TV rights, that we're just a highlight league anyway,
So what the hell's the difference?

Speaker 3 (24:32):
Right?

Speaker 4 (24:33):
That was part of his big presser yesterday, all that
fun and excitement like this reminds me a lot of
when we get into performance enhancers in any sport. There's
the outrage from the oh we were duped. No, you
were in the locker rooms, you made millions of dollars.
You watched these guys come back like they were part
of the Marvel Cinematic universe, and you kept your mouth

(24:55):
shut until all of a sudden there was irrefute.

Speaker 3 (24:59):
Well, now I'm outraged. I was fleeced. Like, no, you were.

Speaker 4 (25:02):
You were on part of it, like all of you.
And so anybody that starts doing that hand ringing you
laugh at. But as viewers of said sport baseball, football, right,
we always joke about football, it's like, well, what they
shoot him up with this time? Is it vitamin T?

Speaker 3 (25:17):
Is it? Like? What do we get him on in
the field with?

Speaker 4 (25:20):
As long as we get our players on the field,
fans generally don't care in this particular case, guys moving
from team to team. Now, Balmer has been duped before.
Look at some of the guys he signed a big contracts,
including Kawhi Leonard.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
So he's that's what you say, Hey, I got duped
on signing him, you know what?

Speaker 3 (25:36):
Like that, I got duped on Paul George. I got
duped on all these guys.

Speaker 4 (25:41):
But we watch guys sign in different cities as free agents,
and there's always the secondary concert.

Speaker 9 (25:46):
Right.

Speaker 4 (25:46):
We talked about it a lot with Kevin Durant taking
advantage of when he went to Silicon Valley. Yeah, he
goes to a great team, but he's also now connected,
not that he couldn't have been before, but he's immersed
in a whole other world and other business oppert whatever.
Tell me that doesn't have a probate value even if
there's no direct exchange of money right there, Right, there's
there's different ways that this comes into fruition. And to

(26:09):
think that it hasn't been happening. You mentioned college for decades,
go back to John Wooden and the bag Man. I
don't know plausible deniability, I don't. I don't know anything
about those kind of things, right, So, for for Steve Balmer,
and I think Cuban had had a great response to it,
going would he have let the company fail.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
If he was really that complicit.

Speaker 4 (26:29):
Or maybe he was just that in Bolden knowing that
Adam Silver and the NBA aren't gonna do anything about it.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
Yeah, I mean, like if you take draft picks. Who cares?

Speaker 4 (26:38):
We laughed at like when some when guys go in
the second round that they're not guaranteed anything.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
And those those guys never played. And then are you
gonna look into every guy who takes less money to
go to a team?

Speaker 3 (26:48):
I mean, clearly, I have a buddy here. An is
never gonna have to worry about this. We'll never have
to worry about this, Lebron.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
I'm taking you every single dollar I can, even if
it keeps my team forging go.

Speaker 4 (26:58):
Back to the original deal down in my right, what's
he gonna say, well, I took less money because uh
well I didn't have to pay income tax because I
was in Florida. Like like, even go back to that,
like you can. You want to go into the books,
you want to go start fighting all that stuff. There's
plenty of it.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
It is a It is a is an imperfect situation, obviously,
but this is gonna.

Speaker 3 (27:19):
Be where here's one loan lone wolf.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Reporter in Pablo Torri, who is out, Hey, I do this,
this is my thing now? And is the NBA really
gonna stup?

Speaker 3 (27:28):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (27:29):
You you, you by yourself have unearthed a huge scam
that's been going on in the NBA for so long.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
They're not gonna admit to that.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
It's not gonna It's like, look, the NFL knows how
to bury stories, right, they know how to do it.
The NBA is gonna be the same thing. Oh, we
can't prove a connection. We can't do this, and it's
gonna got really and really for the fans though nobody cares.
This is not gonna If this resulted in some kind
of personnel situation where Kawhi Leonard is now a free
declared a free agent, or he's got to redo a contract.

Speaker 3 (27:57):
Then it's a bit. But that's not happening that that's
just not gonna be here. So it's like, oh, okay,
that's great.

Speaker 4 (28:01):
Well, but at the NFL, every time there's something that
looks like it's going to be good and big and
huge and earth shattering in the league, what happens the
threat of discovery. There's enough for a settlement, right. Colin
Kaepernick supposedly had all sorts of the he had the goods.
Have we heard anything no? How many years is that
now other than he's still working out trying to get

(28:23):
a looksie that's gone right, they John Gruden was made
the fall guy, right, he hears some stuff from him.
You're telling me that's the only stuff in the thousands
and thousands of documents.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
They went through.

Speaker 4 (28:35):
No, that's gone. But for all of this, does this
tip the competitive balance? I mean really in the grand scale?

Speaker 3 (28:42):
Does it?

Speaker 2 (28:43):
You know what?

Speaker 3 (28:43):
This guy got an extra ten? Do you care?

Speaker 8 (28:46):
No?

Speaker 4 (28:47):
Like it's it's all funny money as it is, and
Adam Silver is certainly not going to get in the
way of the beasts.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
Like I said, you just.

Speaker 4 (28:54):
Got how many billions of dollars from all these streamers
while telling them they don't matter?

Speaker 1 (29:00):
You think this is gonna phase you? Come on, now
what you got? You got a punishment for this frost.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
We really want to bring the hammer down.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
If you're gonna say they have to watch the Mets,
I'm way ahead of you.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
They didn't Okay, they didn't do He's not wishing that
any anybody hitting.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
It's not that bad.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
Okay, did they lose again? The Mets lost again? Internet?
They didn't play. They didn't play. I think they did. No,
they haven't played for the last week and have they've
been off. You really want to punish the Clippers. Make
him watch the Jets.

Speaker 10 (29:28):
Dude again, very low hanging. Okay, I'm just saying I'm
just I'm not I'm not doing the whole low hanging.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
Oh okay, you're doing high hanging all right, all right,
So what's your high hanging opinion?

Speaker 10 (29:39):
You make them no substitutes. Run with Clipper Darrel at
point guard at all times for one season. And Clipper
Darrel's gotta wear the You gotta wear his suit.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
Yeah, you gotta wear the red white. He's the point guard. Yeah, no,
I like it.

Speaker 10 (29:51):
Any other four guys on the court, Okay, okay, I
like that.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
And make James Harden play all forty eight minutes. I
want to see that that's not happen.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
Yeah, yeah, I doing. You gotta make him out there.
She played four point eight minutes.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
I would say, just once, make him play all forty
eight minutes, just one time, just to see him have
to play all forty eight yars would fall off the
Clippers playing with four on defense, James Harden deciding to
stay at the other end of the floor, so if
they get a fast break opportunity, this should be an
easy bucket for the Clippers.

Speaker 4 (30:18):
Meanwhile, there's James Harden and he's got a megaphone in
his hand.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
I want to be traded. This is not my fault.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
Exit out about a Fresca exit swollen down the Jason
Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon time how
to find out what's trending in the wide world of sports.
So someone who's been called the Steve Balmer of Fox
Sports Radio because she once thought the iPhone was gonna
fail as well, it's Monty Belogna.

Speaker 5 (30:43):
Damn.

Speaker 8 (30:43):
I wish I was a fraction of where Steve Balmer
is because then I'd have a lot of money.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
You would You would know he still didn't think the
Remember we had the iPhone, He goes, Dude, you really
think people are gonna line up and pay money to
have all that stuff just on your phone?

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Putty do it left?

Speaker 3 (31:02):
And now rip the BlackBerry. Oh yeah, the BlackBerry. I
love the black up too.

Speaker 4 (31:07):
And I had a two way little text thing that
they gave me at Yahoo all those years you were
I think we're.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
Just too stupid.

Speaker 8 (31:13):
That's why they gave us the iPhone.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
It's I guess people now though, with the simplicity having
to pressed the button and wait for the internet to load.
I'm like, okay, I think I think the charm of
the BlackBerry is going is going away.

Speaker 8 (31:24):
But I used to it was like you seem so
important with it. Yeah, yeah, but oh I'm a handling business.
That's what I'm doing with my BlackBerry. The packers are
handling business against the commanders in the business standing on business.
Green Bay packers are up seventeen to three. They just
got going in the fourth quarter. Last I TechEd. I
checked total yards for Washington one hundred and twelve, total

(31:46):
yards for Green Bay three hundred and forty five.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
I think Tucker Craft may have more yards himself than
the Washington.

Speaker 4 (31:52):
He's got more receiving yards than Jayden Daniels has, passing
that he has more yards in the entire commander's office.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
It's real close.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
It's so close.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
Tucker Craft four catches one hundred and eight yards, so.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
You are right there, so close, so close.

Speaker 8 (32:06):
Jordan Love sixteen of twenty five two hundred and sixty
five yards, one touchdown pass that went to Romeo Dobbs.
Josh Jacobs seventeen carries sixty two yards and a touchdown.
Jade and Daniels fourteen of twenty four for eighty eight yards.
The struggle has been real for Washington again, seventeen to three.
They just got going in the in the fourth quarter.

(32:28):
Other NFL news, forty nine Ers quarterback Brock perty Con
missed two to five weeks with a turf toe injury.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
The Chief say wide.

Speaker 8 (32:34):
Receiver Xavier Worthy was limited in practice today because of
his shoulder injury that he suffered against the Chargers in
Week one. Raiders tied on brock Bauers misspractice today because
of a knee injury. And congratulations to Vikings quarterback JJ
McCarthy because he misspracticed today because his wife was giving
birth to their baby boys. So congratulations to JJ McCarthy.
Why don't we go to a little base ball. Yeah,

(32:56):
the Phillies were down four runs and then they came
back to defeat the Mets six to four.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
New York has lost six in a row.

Speaker 8 (33:02):
Phillies completed the four games sweep.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
Aaron, ask me how many hits the Mets got in
the last eight innings of the game tonight, zero zero zero, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
Very good, very good. They scored all of that in.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
The first Mets math zero they got backdoor, no hit,
you know, no no hits the final eight innings.

Speaker 3 (33:20):
Mets math go as well as you car no.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
No boy, no, no boy no.

Speaker 8 (33:23):
Aaron Judge Homer twice today, forty five and forty six
on the season, Yankees outscore the Tigers ninety three. He
also drove in his one hundredth run and tied Joe
DiMaggio on the career home run list for the Yankees,
win number three hundred and sixty one. Other games that
finished up Guardian's Edge the Royals three to two, and
right now the Padres are on the scoreboard. First against
the Rockies, it's one zero bottom of the fourth, marinners

(33:43):
all over the Angels, four zero, top of the third.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
Back to you guys, thanks a.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
Bunch of monsie.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
Well, looks like we may have a game in the
fourth quarter after all, the Commanders convert on a big
fourth down, they convert on a big third down, and
now zach Ertz is in the end zone. Touchdown pass
from Jayden Daniels from twenty yards out. Extra point is
up and good. So it is a seventeen to ten
Packers lead right now, still thirteen and a half to

(34:11):
go in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 4 (34:13):
Grade eleven play drive There under five minutes. Nice composure
from Daniels, and then Erg's getting out and making a
big play. Austin Eckler won't show up in your fantasy
box score, but he helps seal things down towards the
goal line.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
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Speaker 3 (34:39):
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Speaker 1 (34:39):
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Well coming up next, we got the play of the
night and yes, as Monsi said, Brock Party now out
anywhere from two to five weeks. What does it mean
and why does this become a fascinating story? That's next
right here Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific, Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon Live from the
Fox Sports Radio Studios seventeen to ten Packers with the
lead over the Commanders twelve and a half to go
in the fourth quarter. Packers are driving. It was a
touchdown pass to zach Ertz a few moments ago that
the Commanders absolutely had to have. May now making a

(35:31):
one score game. But Packers on the move right now,
they are in field goal range again. A lot of
time left here, just under twelve minutes left to go,
but it is a seventeen to ten lead for the Packers.
And as I wait for Josh Jacobs to hit that
over for eighty point five rush yards, he's sitting right
now at sixty eight with about eleven and a half
to go in the fourth quarter. So slowly but surely,

(35:54):
maybe we're getting their harm.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
Maybe we're getting there.

Speaker 4 (35:57):
I think you'll get there. I mean, now you try
to bleed club and get it done for me. On
the other side, I was waiting to see a little
gadgetry with Deebo Samuel, which is not yet materialized, and
well at this point it probably won't now I have
to ask you, though. I mean a lot was made
about these Packers' uniforms, the winter White, and on the
radio broadcast they were talking about how well they didn't

(36:18):
want to do it later on in the season because
once it's winter and Green Bay people don't have white jackets.
I'm like, people are sheep. If you put a packer's
logo on a white jacket, you're not selling enough units
to make it worthwhile.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
I don't know that you can see it in the snow.
People want to be seen. If I'm wearing stuff, I
want you to see that I'm wearing my pride.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
And I'm not saying you're wearing it out of hunting.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
You can't, but you'd buy one just for your clothes
in the middle of the snow.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
No, you have Okay, we got white is much more
of a yes, but you get more menacing it though
if you I guess you're not supposed to wear white
after favor we are after Labory. Yeah, so again. But
I think the white looks good. I think it's always
I was just good on a green field, like they're
talking green on a green feel this is it looks
pretty good, not too shabby. Time out for the Play

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Speaker 3 (37:20):
Man?

Speaker 10 (37:20):
Well, when the Philly sweep the Mets, you get the
ride the Johann Duran Express, I guess is what they're
calling it.

Speaker 9 (37:28):
Sure three pictures, back to back case he missed it
by yr he went around the Killings come back from
poor to enough, they complete the full game, sweet and

(37:48):
pull of the Mets.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
Joe Davis on Big Fox with the call, yes we are.
I mean the question is no longer the Mets in
the playoffs. They hold a one and a half game
lead for the final spot. They're giving that. I told
your By the time there's ten games left in the season,
the Mets will be three games out of the wildcard.
There's season's done. Honestly, at this point, I think the
question is are they even going to finish at five hundred?
I don't know that they finish over five hundred. There's

(38:11):
seventy six and seventy one. I don't know that they finished.
They got the Rangers coming into town. Now de gram
is pitching tomorrow night, like Rangers are the hottest team
in Major League Baseball, and the Mets just they play
every night like okay, we're just waiting for disaster to strike,
Like they play waiting for something bad to happen instead
of making big things happen, which is what good teams do.
Now that we're sitting in September and hey, we want

(38:32):
the playoffs, we can smell it. I really, I don't
know if they finish over five hundred this point, that's
how bad it is. Curiosity of how you felt, if
you're a bit demoralized. You score four in the first
guy ends up going eight innings, Yeah right, exactly, five hits,
ten strikeouts, thirteen strikeouts overall for the Mets in this game.
You talk about closing things out nine strikes out, eleven

(38:53):
pitches with three strikeouts to close it. But we just
watched the futility at the top of the order. I mean,
Lindor's having just an off September. Everybody else following in
lockstep with him.

Speaker 4 (39:04):
But at points it's painful to I wish I was
like betting, you know, because You've been so dour on
your squad that I would have made a lot.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
Of money just fading, fading the Mets time and again, fade,
just fade them last three months.

Speaker 4 (39:19):
Wow, we talk about it right, bottom five squad in
terms of records since June thirteenth.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
So we have more on the Thursday night game coming
up in a few minutes. But this big NFL story
from today Brock Party, who he knew was likely going
to be out with an injury this week, now it
looks like he could be out anywhere from two to
five weeks due to a turf toe ish type injury.
Basically that's how I was explained where it well, it's
sort of a it's sort of a version of turf toe,

(39:48):
which is what's keeping Brock Purty out. This has become
a fascinating story because the forty nine ers are in
a lose lose situation, right. That's why, because a if
they win, all right, Kyle Shanahan quiets the doubters who say,
maybe we've gone as far as we can with Kyle Shanahan,
and you know who knows, so yeah, you quiet the doubters.

(40:11):
If Matt Jones is good and they win. But then
all of a sudden, it's wait, why do we give
Brock Purdy two hundred and sixty million dollars if we
can win like this with Matt Jones, All of a sudden,
why do we pay Purdy? He's overpaid? And really the
you know, anybody can be the star of this offense. Now,
if Jones stinks, hey, they win, right, they well, right,
that's awesome, But it's a loss for Shanahan and the

(40:32):
impatience with him continues because this means if he stinks,
they're gonna lose games. And again they're close to a
rebuild for next season, so it is it is kind
of a lose lose situation for the forty nine ers.

Speaker 4 (40:42):
They're really in a tough spot, right because you already
lose Kittle, who's so instrumental in the run game. Trent
Williams missing multiple practices this week, so a little bit
of concern where he's at as to whether it's gone
off the cliff. Remember how much of an issue his
contract and Jennings contract that everybody was a year ago.
But yeah, the Brock party thing where you still have

(41:02):
so many people that have done as much fence riding
as you'll ever see in our business about whether a
guy is a player or really just a uh he
fits the suit, the old Brady Bunch, Johnny Bravo, look
it up, people, it's a fun episode. But literally, it's
all right. Making me a San Francisco quarterback with Shanahan,

(41:23):
He'll succeed to some level. Now, could it be Alabama
Mack is really good and was just screwed all this
time about that?

Speaker 1 (41:31):
But again, if Alabama Mack is good, it's wow, Why
do we pay brock Purty all of this money? Why
do we Why do we succumb to the brocolypse? Why
do we do that? I mean really like, it's lose lose, right, Hey,
it's great if we win, that's awesome. But man, no,
any point Marc Jones will turn into a pumpkin. Then
it's bad for Kyle Shannon again. Lose, lose. Sala goes

(41:51):
exit at about a Fresco exit Swallen Dome. Maybe the
Packers have taken control of this game. We have more
on Thursday Night Football coming up next, as well as
another big quarterback story coming out of the league.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
Today.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
Jason and Mike Fox very machine like game for them,
it feels like they should be winning this game by
more points because you got Jordan Love up at three
hundred yards passing with a couple of touchdowns. Jacob's up
over seventy yards. They're shutting down the entirety of the
Commander's offense, which is something we'll get to after the game.
But again, it feels like it's twenty four to ten.

(42:24):
It should be like thirty five ten on the eye test.

Speaker 4 (42:27):
The number of big plays that were out on the
field for the Packers. You had the one completion to
read that would have been a touchdown that got pulled
back for a holding penalty in the first half. We'll
keep an eye on him. He had to leave with
the shoulder off of that play. But Craft finding his way.
It's the first positive stuff other than talking about mac
and cheese. Yeah, and different recipes in a while. I mean,

(42:49):
so that's good.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
Look, he's got one hundred and twenty five yards of offense.
The Commanders have one hundred and fifty now, so that's
where it's at.

Speaker 4 (42:56):
Yeah, I mean I expected him to be a you know,
a top ten tight end for fantasy purposes. He's gonna
challenge everybody to the top of the board here before
it's done. But we saw the Commanders finally get that
big touchdown drive to Ertz right eleven plays fifty yards
nearly five minutes, and then they gave it right back
ending with the tight end on the other side. Okay, fine,

(43:19):
your ball twenty four to ten, four plays six yards. Yeah,
I mean, look, we'll get to the Packers defense, which
is playing incredibly well.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
But I'll tell you what. The Packers call a time out.
They decide not to punt and McManus is sent out
for a fifty six yard field goal, which is good.
So now make it a three score game for the Commanders.
Now down twenty seven to ten with six and a
half to go in the fourth quarter, that's got to
just about do it. You may get a nice window

(43:50):
dressing touchdown here from the Commanders, depending on how the
Packers play it. But this has been an absolute domination
for Green Bay from the beginning of the game. Here Again,
you would see this game and if they didn't have
the score up, you would say, what do you think
the score of this game is? Oh, I don't know,
forty two to ten. I mean, that's that's how well
they have played to.

Speaker 4 (44:07):
Me, and now you have the weapon that is McManus
to this beast. So as a play caller with Lafleura,
you get to be that much more creative.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
This is a guy for his.

Speaker 4 (44:17):
Career now forty nine of eighty six from fifty plus,
going back to his time with Denver, et cetera.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
So tell me, tell me you don't have more. It's like, wait, Micah,
how you feeling?

Speaker 7 (44:29):
All right?

Speaker 4 (44:29):
We're gonna kick the field goal for fifty eight yards.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
Let's go. It's not just the mile high air, get right?
I mean you start.

Speaker 4 (44:35):
I mean we know kickers in general, like fifty plus
is almost routine anymore for a lot of them, But
you get to really do that much more with your
creativity and plans, Like if we don't get it on
third down, that's fine. We got super Toe over there,
who's gonna finish the job. And we got that defense
that's gonna make it hold up.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
So we'll keep you posted on this exit ab out
of Fresca exit Swollen Dome. Jason Smith Mike Carmon live
from the Fox Sports Radio studios. So, but this story today,
and you know this is insane because we get to
the point we want to make, but it's faulty getting there.

Speaker 3 (45:11):
Okay, let me explain. Okay.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
So earlier today, Cleveland Brown's insider said that Anthony Rizzo
not that Anthony Rizzo.

Speaker 3 (45:20):
Oh, come on.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
Garrett Cole cover First Base said on his weekday program
that Shador Sanders not getting practice reps behind Joe Flacco
and Dylan Gabriel and is not even running the scout
team per Rizzo. Bailey Zappi on the practice squad is
running the scout team. So okay, here's the quote from
Rizzo where he says, hey, this is what I've heard.

(45:40):
I don't know if it's true, but it's what i've heard. Okay, Okay,
so again from me from the big if true category
of oh bigger time, but it's what I've heard.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
Now that's the thing is that, Oh all right Now,
I can't believe he's a Browns insider reporter works. I
can't believe he's going to say things at Orange. But
I mean, really, either either you know it's or you're not.
I don't know if I know if this is true,
but you know, boy, this is big if this is true. Uh,
but the bottom line is that no matter what, Shador
Sanders seems like persona non grata with the Cleveland Browns,

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and I will get to a really really great conspiracy
theory take here in a second. But uh, clearly he's
not top of mind for the Browns at all. Right,
Flakowa's a pretty good game. They nearly upset the Bengals.
So if you're event of all the oh to one
teams this year, if you're the Browns, you're probably feeling
the best because you thought, hey, Bengals are gonna come
in hot knife through butter Our defense plays incredibly well

(46:35):
and we almost pull off the upset.

Speaker 3 (46:37):
Right, couple of missfield.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
Goals, I told you plus five Q So no Andre Schmidt. Uh,
but it's clear that that Shadoor Sanders doesn't have a
future in Cleveland.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
Right, there's too.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
Much mystery, and there's been too much mystery surrounding his
status really since they got to training camp. Well, he's
starting because everybody's hurt. He has a great first game.
Well maybe we'll let him play again now now he's
sitting out, He doesn't move up the death chart. Dylan
Gabriel becomes number two, even though we trade, can he
pick it away? And Gabriel stays number two. Even though
Sanders played better in the first preseason game than Gabriel

(47:11):
played when he got to play in the next game.
There's just been so much, too much mystery around him,
and now it seems like, hey, no matter what, you know,
he's not getting reps, right, you know, he's not getting
reps at all. So this is where you have to
bite the bullet and say, you know what, we're just
gonna trade him. Right, there's teams gonna be looking for quarterbacks.
We should just trade him and get away from this storyline, right,

(47:32):
because you're clearly we're tanking. You know, we're waiting for
next year, waiting for arch Manning because we go with
Flacco and Dylan Gabriel and and Bailey's appy at some point,
so you know we're tanking. Yeah, he flashed a little bit.
You can recoup the pick you got, which if you're
drafting Dylan Gable, you're I don't know why you took
Schud or Sanders.

Speaker 3 (47:50):
That was dune.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
But that gets my conspiracy theory. So why if he's
got no future, get out from under this and trade him.
There's teams that will take him. There's teams that saw
him flash and say, hey, you know what, maybe he's
got a little bit of something. He'll sit, he'll be
you know, he'll be our third quarterback for this year.
He'll learn the offense, and next year we give him
a chance to get in the mix. Maybe he learns
the offense well, he takes us by surprise. There's teams

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out there, man, this seems like the Rams who would say, hey,
we're moving on from Matthew Stafford, let's bring in Shador Sanders.
And there's no better team for Shador Sanders than the
Rams with that offense. The way McVeigh coaches quarterbacks like,
you can come in. You have no pressure right now. Zero,
You're not even gonna suit up, You're not eve gonna
see the field. But it doesn't matter. You're in a
great franchise and a very quarterback friendly team. This is
where you go and we see what happens next year.

(48:32):
Because if the if the Rams are gonna be in
between quarterbacks. As I've told you, this is it for
Matthew Stafford. Hey, you can come in and you play
well in training camp. Sean McVay, Hey, guess what you're
gonna be the guy right. He's brought in players who
have had any kind of pass, great pass, not so
great pass, questions, not questions, responsibility, lack of responsibility. He's
brought in all kinds of players right the last few years,

(48:54):
and it's worked out. So a trade like this would
work and you recoup a draft pick. Right, So this
is and you get out from under the storyline because
it's clear they don't have any plans for the guy. Now,
I still think it's gonna be my my five quarterbacks
of the Browns. You even get to a point where
they have to start him because the guys are injured
and ineffective, and fans are gonna say.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
If you're gonna get rid of them, just play him once.

Speaker 3 (49:13):
So we can see it.

Speaker 1 (49:14):
But really, it's clear he's got no future and I
would I really just trade him. Somebody will take him now,
get him on the roster, and maybe he's something. He's
a curiosity for them going into next year. He is
a fifth round pick. You could probably get a fifth
round pick back for him, because everybody's always quarterback quarterback needy.

Speaker 3 (49:30):
You could do that and move on from this whole thing. Yeah,
in the end, if anybody wanted him.

Speaker 4 (49:34):
They had plenty of bites at the Apple if they
really saw something special in him, and nobody, nobody bit right.
And even when the Browns took him, and I'll get
to you know, the own infighting they've got going in
a minute.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
Uh, even when the Browns took him.

Speaker 4 (49:47):
But I remember that Jimmy Haslam standing there with Andrew
Barry and everybody else going, well, it was his decision,
almost like I got nothing to do with this, because
there was a lot of the well, it's got to
be the owner in the invisible hand and what's good
for business and Jersey sales or whatever. And he made
it very clear. It's like, well, he made that pick,
so if it goes south, it goes there. And if

(50:07):
Stefanski thought there was something there, He's supposed to be
a genius, isn't he? And that what I kept getting told,
like him and stike in and aren't they supposed to
be wizards to take these young quarterbacks and make them great.
I don't think either guy's really had a lot of
track record or that, but we'll leave that for another time.
But right now in Cleveland, they're more mad about things.

(50:28):
And look this Rizzo report, the way it was worded.
I mean, come on, that's like I talked to a
guy at the end of the bar.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
He told me. I don't know if it's true, but
this guy sounded good.

Speaker 4 (50:40):
I mean, look, the guy made spot a really good
yarn and then I gave him five bucks and he
went and he played a song on the jukebox for me.
I mean, that's kind of what Rizzo sounds like here.
But right now, the Browns are mad because you know what,
they've been picked as like a homecoming opponent this week
against the Ravens. Now, it's thirty years since well the
movie Trucks, uh and all of that stuff, and and

(51:02):
they're all mad. It's like, you know, the the they
were gonna play in Baltimore at some point this year,
and it just sinks up.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
Uh, the NFL didn't do anything, dah.

Speaker 4 (51:12):
And if the Ravens want to lean into it and
it's gonna make you mad, game set match, get over it.
You got you got assigned another team. The fact that
you haven't been able to get out of your way
for thirty years is not Modell's fault at this points,
but the Shador Sanders thing. Again, if a team really
wanted him, Man, how many picks plus compensatory picks at

(51:34):
the end of the fourth round and stuf that It's
like they will leave him there. So like, if McVeigh
wanted him, tell me, you wouldn't have already been there.
You knew this was the last dance with with Matthew Stafford.
Wouldn't he have fought if he really thought that could
be a guy that could be the guy for him.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
Well, there's the well, there's the there's the part of
it that, Okay, I really don't know what we're gonna get,
but now we've seen him act and react on a
team for a few months, and whatever distractions he brings
are worth it. If they feel that it's a distraction, it's
worth it. We can go out and trade. Okay, the
speeding thing, Okay, didn't really endear himself to Cleveland with
the speeding tickets, and then you know, yelling at at

(52:12):
Tony Grossi and other Brown's radio personality after the free
you don't have anything good to say about me. But
I think a lot of teams that want to say, well,
let me see what we're getting from him, and there's
gonna be team saying Okay, Yeah, he's like I said,
he's a curiosity, right, He's a curiosity and we can
bring him in. He's got a lot of talent. Let's
see what he can do. And now that we've seen
for the first few months, teams are gonna say yes,

(52:33):
we're okay with that or we're not. I still think
there's gonna be team saying hey, as a third quarterback,
we could do a hell of a lot work.

Speaker 4 (52:37):
Well, you start sixty guys over the course of a year,
I mean we throw that stat out. The last five years,
it's brought to Barret's high fifties, low sixties, kind of
like a good fall day in Chicago as you get going.
But for Shador Sanders, yeah, it's Cleveland. Does not look
unless they have to break glass in case of emergency.
Because of a spate of injuries, he probably doesn't see

(52:59):
the field anytime soon. And look, their defense is game
and Flacco, while not elite, put them in the position
to win that game, So it doesn't look like they're
gonna bail necessarily that early either.

Speaker 3 (53:11):
But for Shador.

Speaker 4 (53:11):
Sanders, the fact that this becomes a headline because of
a thing the guy might have heard while in the
bathroom and someone was talking into their phone too loudly
over some gnochie.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
Really is kind of ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
Now let me let me just say this we want
to say because I'll tell you this, this conspiracy theory.
If you told me at this point, hey, the Browns
did the NFL as solid by drafting Shador Sanders and
burying him, I couldn't dismiss that outright. I couldn't say, yeah,
I'm gonna I'd rule that out because really, here's a
guy with a lot of talent, and all of a sudden,
he's not anybody's.

Speaker 3 (53:47):
Board draft board.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
Really, he's not anybody there. He's evaluated by by and
he doesn't go till the fifth round. I get that
there's instances and you're worried about him coming in. But
if this was clear, we've heard a couple of players say, hey,
I know the teams were told to stay like Eric
Dickerson's teams were told to stay away from him. If
you said he likes to hear himself talk, Bruce, If
you told me the Browns are doing the NFL as

(54:09):
solid by keeping him in beat the worst team in
the league that they know is tanking for next year,
will take your door Sanders, keep him on our roster
and just absolutely bury him. I couldn't say, yeah, no,
come on, I think you're crazy. I couldn't say that.

Speaker 3 (54:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (54:21):
I just think with the number of people that would
have to be on this conspiracy across thirty two teams,
that's a lot of bodies, and I could always say
something right. And this is where the world of Insiders
it gets a little weird sometimes, Like I can always
say I heard something from somebody. If it bears out, great,
If it doesn't, it goes into the wind like so

(54:42):
much else, like the Eric Dickerson things kind of funny,
like I heard from a guy like who, But.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
I'd say I couldn't couldn't rule it out, couldn't rule
it out.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
Still twenty seconds tail hat, Green Bay with the lead
over Washington, though Washington is in the red zone again.
Three and a half to go in this one. We'll
have more on this big injury update from this game
as well, and could we potentially see not one but
two people in the news tonight be out of their
respective cities at the end of this season. Uh, that's

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