September 17, 2025 • 50 mins
Jason and Mike are remembering the Great Robert Redford who passed away at age the afo of 89. The guys explain why no one cares about the whole Tom Brady/Raiders/FOX story. Plus, a visit from MLB Insider Jon Paul Morosi!
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that is expresspros dot com. Well, we have some big
NFL stories to get to coming up in a few minutes.
Everybody's mad at Tom Brady. Come on, mamm everybody needs
a hug. More than that, I think, more than I
can't believe Brady is ruining the sanctity of the NFL
by sitting in on broadcast meetings.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Toby Brady could do this.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Tom Brady could do that.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Maybe he's gonna help them Raiders win a game.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
I mean, you say it out loud, it really doesn't
make anything.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
Maybe the man in a Gaberdine suit with a spy
like if he showed up on facility, he'd have a
camera and his tie, or is he's wearing some of
those meta glasses so he'd record anything that he saw. Hey,
there was something that was discarded in the trash can. Hey,
could you get me a glass of water? And now
he's rifling through a desk. So we're gonna have that
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coming up in about fifteen minutes. But look, obviously, Hey,
the big stunning story today we all woke up and
saw the news the death of Robert Redford at the
age of eighty nine, one of the greatest movie stars
that any of us have seen. You look up movie
star in the dictionary. You see Robert Redford's picture. I mean,
that's how big a deal it was. His list of
movies is so incredibly long. But really, and I love
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today that things kept coming back to two movies, Butch
and Sundance and The Natural right, things have been whatever
people say, you'd get some sting in there, a little bit,
that's fine, but overall I'm watching The Natural Trend and
Butch and Sundance and The Natural and I'm like, okay,
good because I really want I'm like, wow, it's really
interesting to see. This is the movie that people are
going to gravitate towards the most. Right, everybody's got their friend.
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The Sting was Phinal I've got I've got somebody in
the Sting because it's Chicago, it's Robert Shaw, it's all
about I mean, come on, he's part of the Marvel
cinematic universe.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
I mean, I mean, how many people play are going, Oh,
Alexander Pierce, the guy that played Alexander Pierce, the old guy.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
But that's just it, right, like a career that spanned
so many different things. We I think I probably saw
more movies of him in history lit classes, not film classes.
That's a whole other thing. But we're gonna use the
Robert Redford movie here.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Yeah, I mean, look, every book, everybody's got their fend.
If you ask me if I had to pick between
Butch and sun Dance and The Natural, I'm like, no,
I'm not picking. For a guy that makes his living
with opinions, I'm not picking. I'm not choosing. I'm not
ready for one over the other No Sneakers, Brew Baker,
Oh b Baker, Heartbreaker, Brew Baker Baker, won't you shot
my shoes? For free?
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Or prison corruption?
Speaker 5 (03:18):
Morgan Freeman yaf Coto, great, great cast, going back, I
think it was nineteen to eighty uh so before we
get into something big from the natural, right, I mean,
this is this baseball movie. You know, it goes down
as I I don't look. I don't even know you
can limit it and say as the best baseball movie. Like,
I don't know that I could put a sports movie
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above it, simply because of all the sports movies that
I love, right, how much I stop and watch Moneyball
all the time.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
And we're just watching it. We're just watching Looking for
the Natural somewhere on TV. But like of all the
great movies, of all the great sports movies, Field of
Dreams and Hoosiers and all the ones that people want
to say, oh, it's so good, it's so good, it's
so good, I don't know that, and I just base
it on Oh I see it. I'm stopping and watching it, right,
Like I could tell you how great Field of Dreams is.
But am I always stopping at Field of Dreams to
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what No, I'm not right. As much as I love
other sports, but how great that am I always stopping
to watch?
Speaker 3 (04:10):
No, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
But when in the natural, I'm stopping to watch the
natural Like it's one of those Oh it's like Shaw
Shank or anything else that that's become a classic over
the last thirty some odd years, like that's the move
Like okay, No, So when I thought about that today,
I said, yeah, that's the best sports movie that I've
ever seen, because I just keep going back to it.
It doesn't mean that other movies aren't great, aren't aren't
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made better, but just the natural. It's not sometimes about
cinematic it's not sometimes about well here's the plot and
here's this, but it's it's just about the connection that
the audience has with a movie. And the story is timeless. Right,
it's corruption in sports. Right, it happened in the nineteen
thirty Right, this this book took place that was first
was a book that took place in the nineteen thirties,
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and it was apropos in the eighties, and it's apropos now.
And you're talking about of course, you know, Robert Redford
isn't gambling on his on his on his phone in
the in the New yor Knight's locker room, but like.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
We give a time that we deal with that. Now
surprised we haven't had an update of this week?
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Are you fixing games? Are you not?
Speaker 6 (05:08):
Are you in?
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Are you in for the fix? Are you not?
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Like the movie is absolutely timeless, and I think that's
part of of the the overall appeal of it is that, yeah,
it's a period movie, and sometimes period movies age well
and sometimes they really don't. But this was one of
those period movies that like, yeah, you're in that time.
You're in nineteen thirty nine, when when this when this
movie is taking place, and it's it's still where the
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World Series is the biggest sporting event in the country.
But you know you only get it on radio. You know,
it's it's in the only get game games during the day.
So it's it's really it really is something to see
that be the movie. And I'm glad that that's the
movie that cut through for him as we remember his
life in his career.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
Yeah, it's been a minute since I've sat down and
watched it, you know. Having changed the viewing patterns from
a the old style of cable television right where you'd
be flipping through two hundred channels and you'd probably end
up on it every once in a while. Like I
don't have direct TV, right, I've got all the different
streaming services, so you piece meal it together, which means
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you're you're not necessarily running into it so on site,
out of mind kind of thing. But immediately today you
start going through your metal stand and your list and
the natural gravitates. I mean a lot of it goes
back to the uh, some of the Wilford Brimley fun because.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
We have that.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
I mean between between kids.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Guys don't start playing ball at your age.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
They were tied.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
But you know what I mean, Like that's where part
of the Wilford Brimley line comes from. It's like he
was what three years older than Redford at the time, and.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
I'd like to talk to you for a few minutes
about diabet us.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
Right, he looked thirty years older. I mean, we talked cocoon.
But I mean, here's here's some of the genesis of that.
So all of that, like the timeless nature of it.
Some of the other stars, Robert Duvall, who anytime he
shows up, you've got my rapt attention.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
All the way through Evall and Robert Prosky and and
uh uh and and and James. What's then August the Gambler.
I keep forgetting his name, Darren mcavinuh, even Kim Basinger,
who I've never been the biggest fan of. That's probably
her best movie. Like the performances, top to bottom, Glenn
Close there just for Michael Madson, you know.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
What I mean?
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Everybody in it is so good, and Michael Madson just
has this small part and it's so memorable. Why didn't
you slide bump? That is cigar in my back pocket?
I didn't want to break it, okay, but I do
want to say this. They do have a hot take
on The Natural. I have a hot, hot take, hot
take on the Natural right now, and I'm spoiling it.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
But that's okay. It's been around a long time.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
I was gonna say, what, We've got hot take on it.
So it comes down to the final game, and it's
a playoff to get in because you know that the
bullet wound opens up and and he's got to be
in the hospital for three days. He's in the he's
in the baby ward and everything else. So he comes
out and they're playing there wait to bullet. Well yeah, yeah,
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I just said, look up anyway, look up Eddie Wakes
Philadelphia Pillies Whiz Kids, nineteen fifty one. So it's the
final game against the Pirates, right, so Nights and the
Pirates to go to the World Series.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
And you know Al.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Fowler who was fixing the game up until Roy Hobbs
told him, don't fix the game anymore. Okay, hey, after
the game, I think they're gonna want to talk to
Al Faller about things. But so it's two nothing going
to the ninth inning, right, all right, first two batters
get out, right, you know, Hobbs is hitting third, you
get a base hit, Bivens gets a base hit, and
then you get another. You get another hit sort of
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error where the first baseman doesn't catch the ball and
you wind with runners at second and third.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Okay, all right, then.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Here we go.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
You got running you know, here we are. You got
runny runners or runners at first and third. Here we are. Okay,
now it's too nothing. And young Berry, the pitcher for
the for Pittsburgh, who's an eighteen and nine on the season,
pitching a three hitter. Okay, this is I'm such a nerd,
aren't it. I'm such a nerd. Young Berry's got a three.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Use this for good.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
And here comes Hobbes up with two on, two out,
and it's a two nothing lead in the bottom of
the ninth inning. This is Roy Bleeping Hobbs, right, He's
the best hitter in He's the story. He is Sodo
and O'tani and Judge wrapped into one. Okay, I mean
remember what he did to the whammer. Yeah, I mean,
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come on, it's got balls as dry as your granddaddy's scalp.
So again, I'm such a nerd, right, I'm such a
natural nerd. So Young Berry loses it right obviously, right,
two pitches way outside. The manager of the Pirate, Sibby Cistio,
by the way, former baseball star, comes out to take
Young Berry out of the game. So he comes out
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of the game. Two outs, two on, bottom of the
ninth inning. You're up to nothing. The count is two
and oh on the best hitter on the planet. All
of these guys rolled into one. It's two and oh.
And then here comes and I get goosebumps. Young Nebraska
farm boy John Rhade strides to the mound he's got
the best fastball in the major leagues right now, not
even an entire season under his belt, and already I'm
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thinking of Devin Williams is such a great closer. Pete
a Lonzo gonna face, Oh, sorry, too soon. So he
comes in and he pitches to Hobbs, and it really
you would think, okay, it's two and oh to the
best picture. You need one out. Would you rather pitch
to somebody else with the bases loaded, or Roy Hobbs
with somebody else, Yes, especially when you're inherited.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
I plug him.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
You're especially with the blood on. Make sure you're.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Hey you. So he comes in and you inherit a
two and oh count. Okay, you're sending him to first
base now, actually nineteen thirty nine you have to actually
throw the couple of pitches, but you're taking your chance
with whoever is batty.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
You never no, that's it.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
I don't see the guy on up stretch and he's
got like four bats.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
That he's winging around. You have no idea. Club that
wore him up with none of that.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
It could have been Dave Kingman. You have no idea.
So but you pitch to him.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
And and you know you if you fight back in
the count, you get a two and two count, right,
you're pitching to him. You're pitching to him, and he
hits the home run that wins the game. And that's
a whole thing. I'm like, okay, why would you ever
pitch to him? And then you sayman music.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Rolling out?
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Period?
Speaker 1 (11:25):
He actually did the music for the Like, why would
you do that? Like, well, I didn't understand. You would
never pitch to Hobbs.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
And that's it. There's zero.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
First of all, you would take young Berry out after
the after the ground most likely that they misplay at
thirty beats it out at first base. But those two, okay,
you're taking him out of the game or you're walking
him because Young Berry, you know, tough to take Young
Berry out of the game.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
No, Young Berry was cooked.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
You just saw the Yeah, you had to get out
of the way, right, Youngberry was cooked, right, I get it.
Three pits, but yeh, but you got your closer, you know,
young Nebraska farm boy jo right, and by the way,
beyond the natural like what happened to John Roads the
rest of his game? Did he let that define him?
And he was out of the league in a couple
of years or did he become one of the best
firemen in baseball?
Speaker 5 (12:07):
He didn't win the Fireman Award. Instead he burned out.
But now he was fixing games.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
But you don't. But you don't do that. You simply
you don't pitch to Roy Hobbs. Now you want to
get even deeper on it. Right, I gave him more
nerdy on you. So the next two pitches, right when
he comes in, he gives you. He gives you a
fastball that that Redford misses, and then you get a
fastball over the heart of the plate that he just
misses a home run on right. So you're like, oh, wow, okay,
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so Rhodes missed his location and you know, you see
the ball and it fade. That's such a great moment
when you think he's got the home runing fading fil
You're like, ah, we'll get to the whole bat thing
in a minute, because that was that was such an
unbelievable moment. But he comes back and you're like okay,
and the catcher sees that Hobbs is bleeding from the
in front, you know, on on on the inside of
his uh on the inside of his belly, and he
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calls again, because he calls from three inside fastballs. So clearly,
as injures Hobbs, is he has enough to turn on
that fastball and and h and and just miss a
home run down the right field line. Wouldn't you call
something a little bit further away? It's two and two
at that point, right, you're calling for an inside fastball
that Hobbs clearly turns on and hits it, you know,
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five thousand feet like clearly, Oh he got all of
that one.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
So you want to get into those two things.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
You would never pitch them, and you would never call
for an inside fastball in that situation. You would call
something outside proof You've seen that, you see whatever his
season was right for home runs, Uh, you would see that.
I know those two big things. You know the older
I got watching basketball, like, I don't understand why why
they didn't do that. You would have never pitched him.
You would have never called for an inside fastball. Make
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him try see at two and two? Clearly you got
him right, you got him. You threw the you know,
you threw the pitchy he fouled back and breaks the
mirror right in front of Robert balls like, oh he
just shattered the glass. Right, Hobbs is getting even with
all his enemies. And then the next one, big wild
swing that he missed on. And then the next one
was that inside Festibal. The last thing you do is
coming back on an inside fastball. That's gonna do that.
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So really two those two, really I could simmy Sisty
really ruined that game. I mean, you can really say
what a horrible decision that is, like you'll beyond the natural. Hey,
you interview Himingo, boy, that was really bad decision making
their grady little Why did you take Pedro Martinez out
of the game? Like that's kind of where those two things.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
Like, ll I insert your favorite I mean, come starter,
who gets yanked from a game?
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Because I'm thinking about that a lot, because watching the end,
the final home run is getting put up there and
it's so great and uh, and I just think all
about those couple of things, like, yeah, you know, he
calls for three straight inside fit.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
You're not doing that.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
You're not slipping three inside fastballs by the best hitter
in the game. I don't care if he's got a
bullet leaking out of his abdomen, he's got one that
bat left in his life. That's it, man, he's done.
He's walking, not even gonna play in the World Series.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
He's done.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
And if nothing else, you've got him. Clearly, he's aggravated.
The stories bleeding what you want him to stretch?
Speaker 4 (14:55):
See if he really take him out?
Speaker 1 (14:57):
I mean, come on, let's see if he reaches for
the you know, i mean, what the hell's gonna happen?
Speaker 4 (15:01):
All hell's gonna break loose? And you want to wait
straight out of a terrifier movie, and.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
You probably want to waste one anyway, because you've just
come in with three strikes in a row. It's not
full count, right, you make him go outside like this.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
It was a horrible baseball strategy, man.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Figuring he's not gonna have full power.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
You know, he is bloody, Yeah, no, the blood Like
if you watch like the blood that he goes up
there with, he's got like one one big stand and
one tiny one. By the time he gets to his
third swing, it's like three big sweats like Wolverine.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Got him with his claws.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
And I'm like, oh my god, he's he's never gonna
hit this and the catch, yeah, I like the game. No, no, no,
he's starting to rock back and forth. Yeah, yeah, but
you like it the same month, the very beginning, the
first he was the first umpire when Hobbs's first at bat,
calls a strike that Hobbs didn't like and he stares
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him down. And then you see, because the movie, the
way that went the court, the respect he gets. He says,
you are right fella. The umpire says you are right fella,
like I'm calling this strike on you and I'm staring
you down because you're just a guy coming up here.
But now, over the course of the movie, then you
see at the end, hey, oh, are you a right fella?
You know, like, I don't know if that was initiate,
that that was something Barry Levinson decided to do, saying, hey,
we're gonna see the evolution of Hobbs through this umpire,
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or if it's just well, this guy's the umpire for
the other game. We'll save money if we keep them
for the final game. We don't have to have somebody
else come in an umpire. So that's fine, whatever it.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Is, it worked.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
You know what's funny is I quoted this today and
like my daughter was going off to school and she
was having a little bit of a rant that she
was making about something with the teacher in terms of
interpreting literature and and such, And in my timeline came
a quote from Ernest Hemingway to somebody, It's like, you
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know what, sometimes in a book, a fish is a fish,
a fisherman is a fisherman, the sea is the sea,
and sharks are sharks.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Okay, right, Yeah, So your simplest answer of the same
umpire might be it might be something a lot deeper
the evolution.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Listen these two. Through the years, he.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
Gained a respect for his hitting eye and the battling
that he'd done for his career. Yeah, but you don't
have that the whole time, So you can infer it
if you want.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
We're taking to say, hey, we're taking the whole week.
We're doing all the baseball scenes in one week here Buffalo.
So if he stays for three days, he can stay
for the first game a Hobbs had, and he can
stay for the final game.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
All right, let's get it.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Let's get him a room for a couple extra nights
instead of bringing the other guy in. We'll save about
two thousand dollars on a plane flight a new row
to hotel room, So let's just do that. Oh hey,
I can just look at the end and go, oh yeah,
cause it's the same guy. Oh I can oh really
looks like I did it that way. I'm a great filmmaker, Okay,
Like you know who says that stuff like that has
Vince Gilligan, Like when people ask him stuff about breaking
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bad and like, when you did this in this scene,
it was unbelievable. And sometimes he says, you know, we
thought about that, or he always gives credit to all
my director photography or my cinematographer, my cameraman saw this,
But sometimes he just says, yeah, we just looked into that,
like yeah, there's half.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
Great that that.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
I mean, the famous pizza on the roof thing. Yeah
right there, Yeah, one and done. Now it is uh
so then a movie? What what a career? What a legacy?
Speaker 4 (18:13):
I mean?
Speaker 5 (18:14):
And we didn't even get into everything else when you
talk about sun Dance and everything else that float out
of that. But you talk about a guy that, over
the course of his acting career, let alone directing, producing
all the other stuff he did, You've got so many
definable characters for him. It's like and then it becomes
not only your favorite movie, but you remember him from.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
And there's memes all over that.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
I saw people today going, wait that that Johnson guy
who was Robert redd is not glafan Akus. That's do
that's Robert, That's actually Robert Redford. That's smiling at me.
People have been sending me for a decade. Yes, Jeremiah
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decide when you're broadcasting a Major League Baseball game tonight, Hey,
the first home run by the home team we get,
we're gonna give it the natural treatment. Well you get
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Speaker 3 (20:33):
And now.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
To pity and it's time not paying to New York?
Can they open again?
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Met's TV on the call.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
You would see the broadcast as Baty is rounding the bases.
They have the light explode, you know, falling over him.
They superimposed stuff from the natural. They play the natural music.
You hear the crack of the bat for Redford. A
really cool thing. And I don't know if other ballparks
have done stuff like that tonight. I'm sure they have,
but that's been the big thing that's got a lot
of attension on social media.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
You know, you see the you.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Know the lights, you know, and you like how in
the movie the Light, you know, one light it's connected
to the entire staateum. You hit the wrong light, you
knocked the wrong light out that all the other lights
are gonna do.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
It's like a Christmas tree.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Yeah, that's how it goes.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
All It takes that one bulb to take down your
entire tree. All the work, all the hours.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
Now you gotta go bulb by bulb and find that
little bag of replacements that's tethered at the end of
one of those strands. You're not sure what you or
if you pull them off, what box they're now?
Speaker 8 (21:35):
Wit?
Speaker 3 (21:36):
No, you're right, you're absolutely right. You're absolutely right.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Now you're in lighting hell.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
So again, that's awesome, a big ovation for that, and
you know, as we remember the life of Robert Redford,
who passed away earlier today at the age of eighty nine,
we'll have more natural a conversation, maybe more hot takes
about some.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
More natural conversation.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
Yeah, I mean, you just tried to go through the
whole thing of logic instead of suspending your disbelief.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
I don't know that they'd really pitched to him there.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Well, it probably wouldn't know. They wouldn't. That's a whole thing though.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
You want me.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
I really think they'd be trying to set him up
on the outside, maybe get him to extend, since you
know he's bleeding. I mean I realized the first time
he actually hit the ball, the cover got torn off
the ball, which I you know you but I think
that happened once in baseball. I want to say that
sometime and there was some kind of minor league thing
where the ball where the uh, the flap came off
the ball a little bit. Some I thought I remember something.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
I mean, you had enough guys with razor blades and
stuff cutting into the ball. I'm sure that did something. Dude,
disrupt the integrity of the leather and the stitch. That's
not a ball. We want a real ball. I throw
the ball, not that, not that stuff. Give me the ball.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
I'll tell me.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
Tell me you didn't love it when the ball you
were using, you know, with your buddies out on the
play loot started to come apart. Oh yeah, that's it,
now you pull it off. It was all sticky, yeah
the way down. Let's take forever to try to just unloose.
Oh yeah, uh so, such nerds. But like this movie
(23:04):
just takes when.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
I tell you, you know, in about a half hour,
because we got we had a lot of football to
get to you. I'll tell you. I'll tell you a
great story about the natural and something I did in
high school that I can't believe I did it, but
I did. But I'll tell uh So, everybody's mad at
Tom Brady. Apparently Tom Brady buying into the Raiders, having
(23:27):
an active role and also broadcasting for Fox is ruining
the sanctity of the National Football Oh you know, that's
my favorite terminology we use here on this show, Stern, Stern,
you have ruined the sanctity of this Last night, a
bridge too far from Many that Brady was shown on
a headset in the booth for the Raiders game against
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the Chargers, and there's been a lot of hubbub about this.
The NFL responded to that today by saying that Brady
did not violate any NFL rule by wearing the headset.
There is not any conflict of interest with Brady being
a broadcaster for Fox and getting inside information by owning
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the Raiders and hearing what he hears for before a
game and using it to help the Raiders during a game.
The big rule for Brady, who's minority on for the
Raiders and a broadcaster for Fox, is he is prohibited
from going to a team facility for practices or production meetings,
but he sits in the coaches booth. According to the league,
he can be on zoom calls. And the big thing
(24:30):
that this comes down to is all the meetings you
have before games where the coaches tell you about things
going on with the team so you can use them
for the broadcast. Right, That's where it really comes down to, Oh,
Brady is cheating, Brad shitting. First thing I'm gonna tell
you is this, right, this is the biggest thing. Nobody
cares about this. The NFL was telling you, we don't care. Yeah,
Brady didn't do anything. Fans don't care about this. The
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only people that care. Why this seems like it's a
big story is because there's sports writers and people in
the media who, for some reason, this is the the
worst thing in the world. They want to be haters
and they want to just drink that hater rate and
gulp it down and say, yeah, Brady can't do this.
He is ruining the National Football League. That's the only
reason this story is getting any sort of run is
(25:11):
because there's people in the media that just really think
this is the worst thing in the world. And I'll
tell you what, nobody cares. Yeah, I appreciate body.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
The further he's gotten away from New England, we've gone
back to some semblance of rationality, normalcy, and decorum in
our discussions of Tom Brady. Now, if it goes back
and we play some highlights against the Jets, I can
see you start to get a little uneasy in the chair.
But where we're at right now, with Tampa Bay and
a couple of years of retirement, a bunch of trading
(25:41):
card shops that he's opened as a buffer, you're in
a better place. Related to Tom Brady conversation in this
vein look, I get it his history. You go back
and everybody starts talking about Spygate, everybody starts talking about
to flate gate, even though as they say to flate Gate,
they either start to giggle or they readily admit that
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it's one of the dumbest things that's ever been part
of our lexicon in sports.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
But we move on.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
This would be another potential for chaos with Tom Brady involved,
and that's I think part of it is. All right,
they want it to be the next page, the next chapter,
the next paragraph on a Wikipedia page. In that regard,
he's not going into the facilities, so that does create
a little bit of a buffer, right, So he's not
walking into the building. And again I don't know if
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people think he's gonna suddenly pull out one of those
little spot cameras from back in the day, or he's
got the medical.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
I think you're going the wrong way if you want
to prove your point about spy No, no, no, only not
the right one to you know.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
But what I'm saying is that I like, is that where.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
The lunacy of being really upset about this is like,
that's what he's gonna do. He's gonna start walking in
and suddenly he's going into the shredder and he's taking it.
And now he's taping stuff back together in his home
that he lifts from the facility, or he's trying to
get out.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
On the Hey, could you go get me a glass
of water?
Speaker 5 (27:05):
And then he slips behind the desk, gets behind the
computer or starts, you know, faxing himself documents and scanning
stuff like.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Whatever.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
The coaches are going to tell how much they really
give you every and even if.
Speaker 6 (27:18):
They did giving you, but even if they did, but
even if they did go back to Greg Olsen, we
talked about it in the preseason, right he did a
Bears game and he made a reference about how much
they were gonna utilize and how much they love Luther Burden.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
You know how much that's played out, not a damn
bit now, not years Luthor, He's invisible, no, So I mean,
if nothing else, it was a red herring at this
point of lying doing this is why nobody cares, and
every and and the and the media people that care
about this is overblowing it so much, okay, because the
big thing you're coming down to is that he's in
these meetings with the coaches before the week where they
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tell you about things with the broadcast. Do you really
think these coaches are coming in saying, hey, no, Tom,
these are some secret things we're working on. We're do that,
or are they telling you flavor things for the broadcast?
And when they come up and by the time the
Raiders would play anybody, they would see everything that was
on tape from that game. You'd see everything they tried
to do. Hey, they wanted to get the ball to
this guy. What Brady's gonna go? Hey, they said they
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want to get the ball to this receiver at least
six seven times. Well, yeah, we saw the tape of
the game. They got it to him eight times. I mean, really,
you're not getting any You're not getting any event no one.
No one's coming in here and saying, hey, I will
tell you this, but don't tell anybody. Brady's not running
to the Raiders and saying this is what they like
to do. I think Brady can parse what's going on
in a football field pretty well. I think you see
the tape of the game, But no coaches are coming
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in here and saying, hey, we're giving you all our seagnal.
But that's the thing right, Well, Kevin Burkhart and say, dude, hey,
I'm a Mets and Jets fan. Tell me what this
team told you. So I could tell Aaron Glenn, I'll
call Kevin Burkhart. He's in the same meetings. So with
all of this stuff, it's almost as if they there's
just a wanton disregard and disrespect for every other coach
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and personnel person that Tom Brady would have interaction with
in the course of these meetings, Like they're all a
bunch of fanboys. They're gonna say, here, Tommy, here's everything.
Speaker 8 (29:09):
Right.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
No, this isn't a kid standing on the side of
the road asking for an autograph.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
These are professionals.
Speaker 5 (29:16):
It's Tom Brady. Okay, there's a respect to him, but
not gonna We normally don't do this, but because you're
Tom Brady, like, here's our special plays on third down
that we might trot out. Just want you know, we're
gonna give you the inside dope.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
I mean, what are we doing?
Speaker 1 (29:34):
And really, it's it's it's it's just media. Either it's
grudge media or it's I'm bored. I don't have anything else.
I'm gonna talk about how this is ruining the game
right right? Okay, does it have a look that's a
little bit odd? Sure, But I mean, did anybody get
mad when the Colts owner was down on the sideline with.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
A headset on and a play sheet. Nobody gave a damn?
Speaker 1 (29:57):
So this is so much nobody cares about this story.
Nobody does exit op by to Fresca, exit swallowing' dome.
Brady is fine, And it's not like it's helping the
raiders a rowing too, Like, really, how's it helping?
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Well, what's he doing? Is he trying to submarine Gino Smith?
Speaker 5 (30:11):
So people clamor for him to come out of the
booth and play quarterback.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
He takes off the headset, he just rips his shirt.
He's got his jersey on under like Kareem and airplane.
They pull him out.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
He's got his Laker jersey on.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
Ah, come on, get.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Back in there, Todd, Hey, really, Tom Brady's left the
booth head he's down on the sideline.
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love putting this content out for you every single night.
So the chatter on the toush push is now reached
another limit. It's like every year, we're gonna do this
every few months. The touch push is the outer limits.
The touch push is terrible. It took you had Eagles
players saying today that their blood is boiling. It's disrespectful
(31:24):
when people talk about banning the toush push. And look,
I've told you before, I don't care so much because
other teams are allowed to do it, they decide not to. Okay,
you want to talk about the safety of the play, Okay,
you can still do it if you.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Wanted to do.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
At this point, you you've got no data to support
the safety thing, right, you're you're waiting that and you've
got that box, right, you put it in your spreadsheet.
You're waiting to get that first guy that you can
put down at sea.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
He got he got hurt really badly and what did again?
Speaker 5 (31:52):
He got a he got a face mask that scraped
across his arm.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Yeah, but it counts.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Josh Allen had a broken nose. He came back in
right away, plays land Trubisky. It refers down on third
and seven. Okay, but like it's hey, hey, it's all time.
Playoff leader mitched Trubisky to you found the leader. Leader Leader.
You've seen the last year and a half teams that
don't want the toush push, try to find a way.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
What's going there?
Speaker 1 (32:20):
They're pushing and prodding and saying, okay, what works right,
Like when you when you're trying to prod the Jenga pile, like, okay,
what's the one what's the one block that's going to
move so I can grab it put it on top,
and oh, we're pushing with the safety thing. Safety things
not working. But if you want to ban it, what's
going on the last twenty four hours, this is what's
going to ban it? Because what has been the latest
the latest thing with the toush push after this past week,
(32:42):
after the Eagles use it a few times against the Chiefs.
Look at how the Eagles are lining up offside, look
at how they get a jump on it. Look at
we'll get their their alignment or not lining up correctly.
And you have heard through officiating sources that the play
is very difficult to officiate.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
The Dean Blandino and the quiet part out loud.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
That is where if you want the tush push band,
that's what you have to look at and say officials
can't officiate it. You can't have a play that officials
can't look at and can't tell what's legal and not legal.
We can't have that. If you go down that road,
that's gonna wind up getting the play banned, because then
you come with all kinds of instances and example saying here,
(33:23):
look right here, here's off sides, here's the two guards
getting a little bit of a forward momentum push. Here's
where the tackle is allowed to line up in this
spot you can and these are all things that are missed.
And you have Dean Blandie and others saying it's really
hard to officiate so while that part of it has
come out as hey, hey, hey, don't yell at us,
it's a hard play to officiate. Whoa, whoa, whoa. If
(33:43):
it's too hard to officiate, we can't really have it
because now you can't give a team incredible advantage when
they're skirting the rules on it. If this is just
we do it better than everybody else, Sorry, you're up
a creek without a paddle, right, If they do it better,
you can still do it if you want to. Right,
you've decided not to. Okay, I'm not gonna say that,
but if you but if it's now become where they
(34:04):
have an advantage because officiating they can't do it, that's
where that's what you can't. That's where that's what you push.
That's what's gonna be fungible enough for you to say, Okay,
now we can really get some lamento behind, don't we
can't have the touch push ban. And maybe next year
when they look at things, it gets benned because that's
the evidence of pushes it over the time. Yeah, they
just needed a couple more votes this last round of it.
And look, we saw an x a number.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
Of videos that got tagged right, by the NFL in
terms of impropriety of as, hey, you have no right
to redistribute that. So that was kind of an interesting
little twist to it. But we have the invisible line,
we get the all twenty two and everybody doing their
screen grabs and everything else, and it gets the chatter further.
You've got Dean Blandino, who is a former head of
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officiating all of that, so his comments are certainly going
to add fuel to the fire. And when you get
down to it, you can make some of the other
arguments and back those up again of hey, why is
it legal for the offense to push? But defensively you
still lose the opportunity based on forward progress and all
(35:13):
of those kind of things that those are secondary the
officiating raising their hand and saying, hey, it's tough for
us to separate the pile, to spot the ball, to
do all of those things right, Because where's Jalen Hurts
really down trying to adjudicate that unless he's well into
the end zone.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Good luck.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
And yes, I understand it's legal for the other thirty
one teams to try it, they haven't been able to
do it.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
Do I want it outlawed?
Speaker 2 (35:42):
No?
Speaker 4 (35:42):
But certainly this week. Yeah, you found the legal loophole.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (35:47):
I would send the lawyer lawyers to make the argument.
There's Lionel Huts, go just hammer that home. I Linel Huts,
attorney in law.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Coming up next to got more in the Natural, and
we take a look at what big win from the
week it's impossible to celebrate.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
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as we celebrate the life of Robert Redford today, passed
(36:33):
away at the age of eighty nine. The Natural is
the movie that everybody is gravitating towards on social media,
which is awesome because look, my favorite sports movie of
all time, because I know it's the one I keep
going back to whenever it's on I stop and watch it.
But we started the show talking about the incorrect baseball strategy.
At the end of the natural nobody better to throw
(36:54):
this body, and I'm sure he will agree with me. Yeah,
throw this by as if you were getting that third
dike on the outside corner and said it trying to
path it inside again. Not my first rodeo with us
down the hotline, longtime MLB insider, MLB Network, Fox Sports Radio.
It is the Pope, John Paul Morosi, John Paul, Happy Tuesday, man,
(37:15):
How you doing?
Speaker 8 (37:16):
I am doing outstanding, my friends. The Mets one tonight
an easy win for your team, So I knew watching
that first thing unfold. I'm gonna speak to a very happy, relieve,
and newly confident Jason Smith here this evening.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
Yeah, like, I don't even care who wins now between
the Giants and the Diamond Baskers are basically time doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Somebody's gonna win.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
So okay, I'll let the stress go for me the
rest of the night tonight, John Paul, Well, here.
Speaker 8 (37:45):
We go, and I think that there was plenty of
conversation about what was going on with the pitching for
the Mets tonight. They get four innings on the Holmes
and Manaia comes in. Juan Soto continues to build, by
the way, one of the great debut seasons with a
team with a new team that any free agent player
(38:07):
has ever had. That was not as you may recall
a prevailing thought process on jan Soto season when it
was in the early days there. I recall seeing him
in Boston in May when there was all this pressure.
But he has exhausted all that dialogue. And now the
Mets are branding a little easier right now about exactly
(38:29):
what their playoff chances are.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
All right now, we'll get to the rest of baseball
in the second. But I want to throw this by
you because we talked about this a lot obviously, you know,
honoring the life memory of Robert Redform the natural, which
I'm sure you have seen approximately one hundred and fifty times.
Speaker 8 (38:41):
Like I have, of course.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
So I want to throw this by you here because
you know this is something that I really feel like.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Okay, a big error at the end of the playing game.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Right, So the Knights are down to bottom the ninth
inning with runners on first and third to young Berry.
Wild goes two and zero on Roy Hobbs, and then
the manager, Ciddy sisty, former mlber, comes and takes young
Berry out of the game, brings in John Rhodes, best
fastball in Major League Baseball, not even a season under
his belt. Aren't you walking Roy Hobbs in that situation?
(39:16):
First of all, you're probably walking him because you don't
want him to beat you with two on and two out,
you're absolutely walking him.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
If a reliever is.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Coming in inheriting a two and ohero count, you're not
trying to come from behind in this a bat. You're saying, Okay,
go down to first base. I'll figure it out with
a cleanup batter. That a character that we don't even know,
he's not even been the movie yet. I think that
was like a strategy that could have been done a
little bit differently correct.
Speaker 8 (39:39):
I think that there was a different way to pitch him.
And as we know, one of the tenants that has
always existed in in professional baseball is that if a
veteran left handed slugger has bloody spots on his jersey,
you gotta side fastball inside bastball. And that's basically what
(40:05):
what the logic was. And the catcher's like, oh my gosh, well, Roy,
what's going on? I got, I got throw on the
inside fastball, and it's we believed that forever, and he
and it was interesting because he goes with he puts
the two fingers down first and then goes one, indicating
that there was probably a system of multiple signs going on,
and he thought he could beat him inside with with
(40:28):
with a fastball. Clearly he did not, I believe, by
the way that And since you are a greater historian
in this movie than I am, but I believe that
that scene was filmed at the War Memorial Stadium in Buffalo,
New York, Am i am? I correct about that. It
was the old War Memorial Stadium, which I've heard was
(40:49):
just a cavernous old triple A ballpark. Of course, they
now play closer to downtown at salein Field, which once
was called dun Tire Park, which of course was home
to the Blue Jays for a while. Dalla Blue Jays
have their residence at the top spot of the Al East.
But yes, love Buffalo, great baseball town, great hockey town,
(41:13):
and for that movie was the home of the the
New York Nights. And certainly condolences to the family of
Robert Redford, what a legend. I would also say all
the President's men also epic that as as a journalist,
the clip has been making the rounds of when he's
(41:33):
on the phone working the Watergate story, as as the
Allan Eagleton news is going over the ticker and the
wire in the background, just cinematically, dramatically, absolute masterpiece. Robert Redford,
we have lost a legend.
Speaker 5 (41:49):
To my friends, I figured you were going to give
us a couple of lines out of indecent proposal.
Speaker 4 (41:53):
Instead, instead you went journalistic.
Speaker 8 (41:57):
I should probably stay with what I know, which would
be sports and journalism. When we venture outside and into
indies and proposal, I'm not so sure that i'd be
that I would be in my same comfort.
Speaker 5 (42:09):
Zone all right now about some marvel cinematic universe, No
like the superheroes we've been watching on the Diamond. Another
guy that probably shouldn't see another pitch to hit is
cal Raley. How do you best encapsulate what he's done
and continues to do here with record setting moments each
and every night, the.
Speaker 8 (42:26):
Best season all around that any one catcher has ever had.
You could easily argue that I realized that Joe Mauer
won three batting titles and Yogi Berra won all the
World Series rings. And obviously we don't know if cal
Rowley seems gonna win the World Series or not. But
(42:47):
in the modern game, the demands on the catcher being
what they are. The nbple runs and he's hit the
fact that he's got to keep two different swings in
line all the time, and he's catching so frequently. I
just I think that he has had one of the
(43:07):
great seasons that we've ever witnessed. And I'm not convinced
that he's going to win the MVP yet. I think
there's still a pretty compelling argument for Aaron Judge too,
And by the way, this is one of those years
when there's no wrong answer. I just think that what
Ralegh has done is so unique historically. It's just it's
really hard, really hard to catch that many games and
(43:32):
to still be that productive all season long. And where
guys people were saying in July, Oh, cal Raley, he's
gonna taper off his numbers. No way, He's going to
still be a productive hitter in the second half. He is.
And not only is that the case, he's pulling even
passing people like Mickey Mannlin, Ken, Griffy Jor. I mean,
(43:54):
it's his next level stuff. So cal Raley, the Mariners
now won ten games in a row and his MVP chances,
I would say, my friends are as strong now as
they have ever been.
Speaker 3 (44:08):
Is it this simple?
Speaker 1 (44:09):
John Paul? We break it down. Is it this simple?
If the Mariners win the West, cal Rawley wins the MVP.
If he doesn't, it's Aaron Judges.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
Is it really? Could it be that simple?
Speaker 8 (44:19):
It could be. I think that it's let's put it
this way. If I back up a little bit, it
should not be that simple, because let's say on the
last day, if the center fielder drops a routine fly
ball that with two outs the ninth inning and the
Mariners lose the division. It wasn't like. It wasn't like
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cal Rally's season becomes any less impressive because of something
that had nothing to do with him. So I'm always
a little bit wary of that. But I'll say this,
this team has not won the America League West title
in twenty four years. They've had a surge in September
(45:00):
to give themselves a chance, and if they win it,
it's going to be because of him. I don't know, guys,
it's historically great what he's done as a catcher. This
is an MVP year. I'm not convinced he's gonna win it,
but it's an MVP year. What Aaron Judge is doing
is also an MVP year. The piece that Rally, though,
(45:23):
just to me elevates him a bit, is just the
difficulty that we have in quantifying the value of a
catcher and how many plays, the impacts he impacts every
single pitch during the course of a major league game,
he impacts when this team is on defense, and now
(45:44):
he's hitting into the mid fifties at home runs. Guys,
as a you're talking about value of a player to
his team, I just don't know that there's a more
vital player anywhere in Major League Baseball to his team
than cal Rawly is the Mariners. And that's not It's
not a Christmas of anybody else. I just think that
(46:04):
the delta between between Raleigh and the second most important
Mariner is greater than Judge. To take your pick of
a Yankee, whether it's Stanton right now, others with with
the Phillies, Shoreber to Harper. Let's say Dodgers show a
to Freddie. I just think the gap is bigger for
(46:26):
for cal Rally to the number two player on that
team than probably anyone else that's been a serious MVP
candidate in recent years.
Speaker 5 (46:34):
Fun with numbers. Current implied odds have Raleigh at a
five percent chance. Meanwhile, in the National League, we got
a no hitter f have no hit innings from.
Speaker 4 (46:44):
Shot is two yeah, nine chance of him beating Schwarber
right now, Jas.
Speaker 8 (46:57):
Those chances are they're going up. I would say the
chances are a little less than ninety nine percent. The
Dodgers would allow him to try to finish nine innings tonight.
I'm not I'm not banking on that.
Speaker 4 (47:10):
Yeah, he's already gone there ye, so there you go.
Speaker 8 (47:14):
That was I was following the boxerom before we came
on the air. That was what I was witnessing. So
he's not going to get the complete game. But everything
that Otani has done has told the Dodgers that he'll
be ready to start whatever game they need and that
he really should not have significant limits in terms of
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his of his pitch count in October. He should be able,
in my opinion, at least get to the ninety pitch
range and if for being fair, the Dodgers rarely let
their guys go above ninety pitches in the in the
postseason anyhow so, I think in many ways he is
ideally prepared for what's to come and showy Otani all
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the criticism that he was there are just the questions,
I should say, not criticism, but just questions about if
he was going to be able to come back, what
do you ever pitch again? How can he keep all
this stuff balance now that his body is older than
it was two years ago when he was doing this
for the Angels. I just think it's one of the
most impressive things I've ever seen his sports, which Showeyo
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Towny has been able to do, and he's proven to
the Dodgers and the entire baseball landscape that he is
still the elite pitcher that he showed himself to be
with the Los Angeles Angels.
Speaker 1 (48:33):
He's on Twitter at John Morosi, that is at John Morosi.
Check him out on the MLB Network. John Paul is
always buddy, Appreciate it, my friend. We'll talk to you
next week. Enjoy the games.
Speaker 8 (48:43):
That was good, Hey by today. I think my Lions
Bears pick was fairly accurate. I might have given the
Bears a little more credit than I thought they deserve. Yeah, okay,
but there you go. So I guess I am two
and zero. The Lions are one and one.
Speaker 3 (48:59):
Yeah, but long you have a better record than the Lions.
Speaker 8 (49:02):
I haven't bet a record than the Lions. All right,
real good about it.
Speaker 1 (49:04):
So give me your pick for this weekend coming up?
After fifty two points against the Bears, the line, the line,
the red hot Lions offense now red hot coming back?
How do you like them this week? Monday Night against
the Ravens.
Speaker 8 (49:18):
I guess the Ravens Monday Night. My goodness, What a
great spectacle that's gonna be. I believe it will be
the Lions twenty four to twenty. It's gonna be tighter.
Notice I didn't pick twenty seven or seventeen. Detroit twenty four, Baltimore.
Speaker 1 (49:38):
Twenty undefeated celebrity Lions picker John PALMROSI giving you the
final score four Monday Nights taking the under, John Paul,
Thanks so much.
Speaker 2 (49:47):
We'll talk to you Joyce.
Speaker 8 (49:48):
But my understanding is that the Ravens didn't score a
ton of points last weekend, so I think it's there's
a bit of a low scoring vibe right now, so
it's gonna be twenty four to twenty Detroit.
Speaker 1 (49:58):
There we go, There we go, making from his normal score,
which is usually twenty seven for detection right twenty four
for the Lions this weekend.
Speaker 5 (50:06):
There goes job Tall fifty two. As you're over under
for that one. Fireworks for us.
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NFL stories to get to coming up in a few minutes.
Everybody's mad at Tom Brady. Come on, mamm everybody needs
a hug. More than that, I think, more than I
can't believe Brady is ruining the sanctity of the NFL
by sitting in on broadcast meetings.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Toby Brady could do this.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Tom Brady could do that.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Maybe he's gonna help them Raiders win a game.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
I mean, you say it out loud, it really doesn't
make anything.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
Maybe the man in a Gaberdine suit with a spy
like if he showed up on facility, he'd have a
camera and his tie, or is he's wearing some of
those meta glasses so he'd record anything that he saw. Hey,
there was something that was discarded in the trash can. Hey,
could you get me a glass of water? And now
he's rifling through a desk. So we're gonna have that
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coming up in about fifteen minutes. But look, obviously, Hey,
the big stunning story today we all woke up and
saw the news the death of Robert Redford at the
age of eighty nine, one of the greatest movie stars
that any of us have seen. You look up movie
star in the dictionary. You see Robert Redford's picture. I mean,
that's how big a deal it was. His list of
movies is so incredibly long. But really, and I love
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today that things kept coming back to two movies, Butch
and Sundance and The Natural right, things have been whatever
people say, you'd get some sting in there, a little bit,
that's fine, but overall I'm watching The Natural Trend and
Butch and Sundance and The Natural and I'm like, okay,
good because I really want I'm like, wow, it's really
interesting to see. This is the movie that people are
going to gravitate towards the most. Right, everybody's got their friend.
(02:26):
The Sting was Phinal I've got I've got somebody in
the Sting because it's Chicago, it's Robert Shaw, it's all
about I mean, come on, he's part of the Marvel
cinematic universe.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
I mean, I mean, how many people play are going, Oh,
Alexander Pierce, the guy that played Alexander Pierce, the old guy.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
But that's just it, right, like a career that spanned
so many different things. We I think I probably saw
more movies of him in history lit classes, not film classes.
That's a whole other thing. But we're gonna use the
Robert Redford movie here.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Yeah, I mean, look, every book, everybody's got their fend.
If you ask me if I had to pick between
Butch and sun Dance and The Natural, I'm like, no,
I'm not picking. For a guy that makes his living
with opinions, I'm not picking. I'm not choosing. I'm not
ready for one over the other No Sneakers, Brew Baker,
Oh b Baker, Heartbreaker, Brew Baker Baker, won't you shot
my shoes? For free?
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Or prison corruption?
Speaker 5 (03:18):
Morgan Freeman yaf Coto, great, great cast, going back, I
think it was nineteen to eighty uh so before we
get into something big from the natural, right, I mean,
this is this baseball movie. You know, it goes down
as I I don't look. I don't even know you
can limit it and say as the best baseball movie. Like,
I don't know that I could put a sports movie
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above it, simply because of all the sports movies that
I love, right, how much I stop and watch Moneyball
all the time.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
And we're just watching it. We're just watching Looking for
the Natural somewhere on TV. But like of all the
great movies, of all the great sports movies, Field of
Dreams and Hoosiers and all the ones that people want
to say, oh, it's so good, it's so good, it's
so good, I don't know that, and I just base
it on Oh I see it. I'm stopping and watching it, right,
Like I could tell you how great Field of Dreams is.
But am I always stopping at Field of Dreams to
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what No, I'm not right. As much as I love
other sports, but how great that am I always stopping
to watch?
Speaker 3 (04:10):
No, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
But when in the natural, I'm stopping to watch the
natural Like it's one of those Oh it's like Shaw
Shank or anything else that that's become a classic over
the last thirty some odd years, like that's the move
Like okay, No, So when I thought about that today,
I said, yeah, that's the best sports movie that I've
ever seen, because I just keep going back to it.
It doesn't mean that other movies aren't great, aren't aren't
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made better, but just the natural. It's not sometimes about
cinematic it's not sometimes about well here's the plot and
here's this, but it's it's just about the connection that
the audience has with a movie. And the story is timeless. Right,
it's corruption in sports. Right, it happened in the nineteen
thirty Right, this this book took place that was first
was a book that took place in the nineteen thirties,
(04:52):
and it was apropos in the eighties, and it's apropos now.
And you're talking about of course, you know, Robert Redford
isn't gambling on his on his on his phone in
the in the New yor Knight's locker room, but like.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
We give a time that we deal with that. Now
surprised we haven't had an update of this week?
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Are you fixing games? Are you not?
Speaker 6 (05:08):
Are you in?
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Are you in for the fix? Are you not?
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Like the movie is absolutely timeless, and I think that's
part of of the the overall appeal of it is that, yeah,
it's a period movie, and sometimes period movies age well
and sometimes they really don't. But this was one of
those period movies that like, yeah, you're in that time.
You're in nineteen thirty nine, when when this when this
movie is taking place, and it's it's still where the
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World Series is the biggest sporting event in the country.
But you know you only get it on radio. You know,
it's it's in the only get game games during the day.
So it's it's really it really is something to see
that be the movie. And I'm glad that that's the
movie that cut through for him as we remember his
life in his career.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
Yeah, it's been a minute since I've sat down and
watched it, you know. Having changed the viewing patterns from
a the old style of cable television right where you'd
be flipping through two hundred channels and you'd probably end
up on it every once in a while. Like I
don't have direct TV, right, I've got all the different
streaming services, so you piece meal it together, which means
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you're you're not necessarily running into it so on site,
out of mind kind of thing. But immediately today you
start going through your metal stand and your list and
the natural gravitates. I mean a lot of it goes
back to the uh, some of the Wilford Brimley fun because.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
We have that.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
I mean between between kids.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Guys don't start playing ball at your age.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
They were tied.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
But you know what I mean, Like that's where part
of the Wilford Brimley line comes from. It's like he
was what three years older than Redford at the time, and.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
I'd like to talk to you for a few minutes
about diabet us.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
Right, he looked thirty years older. I mean, we talked cocoon.
But I mean, here's here's some of the genesis of that.
So all of that, like the timeless nature of it.
Some of the other stars, Robert Duvall, who anytime he
shows up, you've got my rapt attention.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
All the way through Evall and Robert Prosky and and
uh uh and and and James. What's then August the Gambler.
I keep forgetting his name, Darren mcavinuh, even Kim Basinger,
who I've never been the biggest fan of. That's probably
her best movie. Like the performances, top to bottom, Glenn
Close there just for Michael Madson, you know.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
What I mean?
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Everybody in it is so good, and Michael Madson just
has this small part and it's so memorable. Why didn't
you slide bump? That is cigar in my back pocket?
I didn't want to break it, okay, but I do
want to say this. They do have a hot take
on The Natural. I have a hot, hot take, hot
take on the Natural right now, and I'm spoiling it.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
But that's okay. It's been around a long time.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
I was gonna say, what, We've got hot take on it.
So it comes down to the final game, and it's
a playoff to get in because you know that the
bullet wound opens up and and he's got to be
in the hospital for three days. He's in the he's
in the baby ward and everything else. So he comes
out and they're playing there wait to bullet. Well yeah, yeah,
(08:00):
I just said, look up anyway, look up Eddie Wakes
Philadelphia Pillies Whiz Kids, nineteen fifty one. So it's the
final game against the Pirates, right, so Nights and the
Pirates to go to the World Series.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
And you know Al.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Fowler who was fixing the game up until Roy Hobbs
told him, don't fix the game anymore. Okay, hey, after
the game, I think they're gonna want to talk to
Al Faller about things. But so it's two nothing going
to the ninth inning, right, all right, first two batters
get out, right, you know, Hobbs is hitting third, you
get a base hit, Bivens gets a base hit, and
then you get another. You get another hit sort of
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error where the first baseman doesn't catch the ball and
you wind with runners at second and third.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Okay, all right, then.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Here we go.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
You got running you know, here we are. You got
runny runners or runners at first and third. Here we are. Okay,
now it's too nothing. And young Berry, the pitcher for
the for Pittsburgh, who's an eighteen and nine on the season,
pitching a three hitter. Okay, this is I'm such a nerd,
aren't it. I'm such a nerd. Young Berry's got a three.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Use this for good.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
And here comes Hobbes up with two on, two out,
and it's a two nothing lead in the bottom of
the ninth inning. This is Roy Bleeping Hobbs, right, He's
the best hitter in He's the story. He is Sodo
and O'tani and Judge wrapped into one. Okay, I mean
remember what he did to the whammer. Yeah, I mean,
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come on, it's got balls as dry as your granddaddy's scalp.
So again, I'm such a nerd, right, I'm such a
natural nerd. So Young Berry loses it right obviously, right,
two pitches way outside. The manager of the Pirate, Sibby Cistio,
by the way, former baseball star, comes out to take
Young Berry out of the game. So he comes out
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of the game. Two outs, two on, bottom of the
ninth inning. You're up to nothing. The count is two
and oh on the best hitter on the planet. All
of these guys rolled into one. It's two and oh.
And then here comes and I get goosebumps. Young Nebraska
farm boy John Rhade strides to the mound he's got
the best fastball in the major leagues right now, not
even an entire season under his belt, and already I'm
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thinking of Devin Williams is such a great closer. Pete
a Lonzo gonna face, Oh, sorry, too soon. So he
comes in and he pitches to Hobbs, and it really
you would think, okay, it's two and oh to the
best picture. You need one out. Would you rather pitch
to somebody else with the bases loaded, or Roy Hobbs
with somebody else, Yes, especially when you're inherited.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
I plug him.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
You're especially with the blood on. Make sure you're.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Hey you. So he comes in and you inherit a
two and oh count. Okay, you're sending him to first
base now, actually nineteen thirty nine you have to actually
throw the couple of pitches, but you're taking your chance
with whoever is batty.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
You never no, that's it.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
I don't see the guy on up stretch and he's
got like four bats.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
That he's winging around. You have no idea. Club that
wore him up with none of that.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
It could have been Dave Kingman. You have no idea.
So but you pitch to him.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
And and you know you if you fight back in
the count, you get a two and two count, right,
you're pitching to him. You're pitching to him, and he
hits the home run that wins the game. And that's
a whole thing. I'm like, okay, why would you ever
pitch to him? And then you sayman music.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Rolling out?
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Period?
Speaker 1 (11:25):
He actually did the music for the Like, why would
you do that? Like, well, I didn't understand. You would
never pitch to Hobbs.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
And that's it. There's zero.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
First of all, you would take young Berry out after
the after the ground most likely that they misplay at
thirty beats it out at first base. But those two, okay,
you're taking him out of the game or you're walking
him because Young Berry, you know, tough to take Young
Berry out of the game.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
No, Young Berry was cooked.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
You just saw the Yeah, you had to get out
of the way, right, Youngberry was cooked, right, I get it.
Three pits, but yeh, but you got your closer, you know,
young Nebraska farm boy jo right, and by the way,
beyond the natural like what happened to John Roads the
rest of his game? Did he let that define him?
And he was out of the league in a couple
of years or did he become one of the best
firemen in baseball?
Speaker 5 (12:07):
He didn't win the Fireman Award. Instead he burned out.
But now he was fixing games.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
But you don't. But you don't do that. You simply
you don't pitch to Roy Hobbs. Now you want to
get even deeper on it. Right, I gave him more
nerdy on you. So the next two pitches, right when
he comes in, he gives you. He gives you a
fastball that that Redford misses, and then you get a
fastball over the heart of the plate that he just
misses a home run on right. So you're like, oh, wow, okay,
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so Rhodes missed his location and you know, you see
the ball and it fade. That's such a great moment
when you think he's got the home runing fading fil
You're like, ah, we'll get to the whole bat thing
in a minute, because that was that was such an
unbelievable moment. But he comes back and you're like okay,
and the catcher sees that Hobbs is bleeding from the
in front, you know, on on on the inside of
his uh on the inside of his belly, and he
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calls again, because he calls from three inside fastballs. So clearly,
as injures Hobbs, is he has enough to turn on
that fastball and and h and and just miss a
home run down the right field line. Wouldn't you call
something a little bit further away? It's two and two
at that point, right, you're calling for an inside fastball
that Hobbs clearly turns on and hits it, you know,
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five thousand feet like clearly, Oh he got all of
that one.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
So you want to get into those two things.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
You would never pitch them, and you would never call
for an inside fastball in that situation. You would call
something outside proof You've seen that, you see whatever his
season was right for home runs, Uh, you would see that.
I know those two big things. You know the older
I got watching basketball, like, I don't understand why why
they didn't do that. You would have never pitched him.
You would have never called for an inside fastball. Make
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him try see at two and two? Clearly you got
him right, you got him. You threw the you know,
you threw the pitchy he fouled back and breaks the
mirror right in front of Robert balls like, oh he
just shattered the glass. Right, Hobbs is getting even with
all his enemies. And then the next one, big wild
swing that he missed on. And then the next one
was that inside Festibal. The last thing you do is
coming back on an inside fastball. That's gonna do that.
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So really two those two, really I could simmy Sisty
really ruined that game. I mean, you can really say
what a horrible decision that is, like you'll beyond the natural. Hey,
you interview Himingo, boy, that was really bad decision making
their grady little Why did you take Pedro Martinez out
of the game? Like that's kind of where those two things.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
Like, ll I insert your favorite I mean, come starter,
who gets yanked from a game?
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Because I'm thinking about that a lot, because watching the end,
the final home run is getting put up there and
it's so great and uh, and I just think all
about those couple of things, like, yeah, you know, he
calls for three straight inside fit.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
You're not doing that.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
You're not slipping three inside fastballs by the best hitter
in the game. I don't care if he's got a
bullet leaking out of his abdomen, he's got one that
bat left in his life. That's it, man, he's done.
He's walking, not even gonna play in the World Series.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
He's done.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
And if nothing else, you've got him. Clearly, he's aggravated.
The stories bleeding what you want him to stretch?
Speaker 4 (14:55):
See if he really take him out?
Speaker 1 (14:57):
I mean, come on, let's see if he reaches for
the you know, i mean, what the hell's gonna happen?
Speaker 4 (15:01):
All hell's gonna break loose? And you want to wait
straight out of a terrifier movie, and.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
You probably want to waste one anyway, because you've just
come in with three strikes in a row. It's not
full count, right, you make him go outside like this.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
It was a horrible baseball strategy, man.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Figuring he's not gonna have full power.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
You know, he is bloody, Yeah, no, the blood Like
if you watch like the blood that he goes up
there with, he's got like one one big stand and
one tiny one. By the time he gets to his
third swing, it's like three big sweats like Wolverine.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Got him with his claws.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
And I'm like, oh my god, he's he's never gonna
hit this and the catch, yeah, I like the game. No, no, no,
he's starting to rock back and forth. Yeah, yeah, but
you like it the same month, the very beginning, the
first he was the first umpire when Hobbs's first at bat,
calls a strike that Hobbs didn't like and he stares
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him down. And then you see, because the movie, the
way that went the court, the respect he gets. He says,
you are right fella. The umpire says you are right fella,
like I'm calling this strike on you and I'm staring
you down because you're just a guy coming up here.
But now, over the course of the movie, then you
see at the end, hey, oh, are you a right fella?
You know, like, I don't know if that was initiate,
that that was something Barry Levinson decided to do, saying, hey,
we're gonna see the evolution of Hobbs through this umpire,
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or if it's just well, this guy's the umpire for
the other game. We'll save money if we keep them
for the final game. We don't have to have somebody
else come in an umpire. So that's fine, whatever it.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Is, it worked.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
You know what's funny is I quoted this today and
like my daughter was going off to school and she
was having a little bit of a rant that she
was making about something with the teacher in terms of
interpreting literature and and such, And in my timeline came
a quote from Ernest Hemingway to somebody, It's like, you
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know what, sometimes in a book, a fish is a fish,
a fisherman is a fisherman, the sea is the sea,
and sharks are sharks.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Okay, right, Yeah, So your simplest answer of the same
umpire might be it might be something a lot deeper
the evolution.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Listen these two. Through the years, he.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
Gained a respect for his hitting eye and the battling
that he'd done for his career. Yeah, but you don't
have that the whole time, So you can infer it
if you want.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
We're taking to say, hey, we're taking the whole week.
We're doing all the baseball scenes in one week here Buffalo.
So if he stays for three days, he can stay
for the first game a Hobbs had, and he can
stay for the final game.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
All right, let's get it.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Let's get him a room for a couple extra nights
instead of bringing the other guy in. We'll save about
two thousand dollars on a plane flight a new row
to hotel room, So let's just do that. Oh hey,
I can just look at the end and go, oh yeah,
cause it's the same guy. Oh I can oh really
looks like I did it that way. I'm a great filmmaker, Okay,
Like you know who says that stuff like that has
Vince Gilligan, Like when people ask him stuff about breaking
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bad and like, when you did this in this scene,
it was unbelievable. And sometimes he says, you know, we
thought about that, or he always gives credit to all
my director photography or my cinematographer, my cameraman saw this,
But sometimes he just says, yeah, we just looked into that,
like yeah, there's half.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
Great that that.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
I mean, the famous pizza on the roof thing. Yeah
right there, Yeah, one and done. Now it is uh
so then a movie? What what a career? What a legacy?
Speaker 4 (18:13):
I mean?
Speaker 5 (18:14):
And we didn't even get into everything else when you
talk about sun Dance and everything else that float out
of that. But you talk about a guy that, over
the course of his acting career, let alone directing, producing
all the other stuff he did, You've got so many
definable characters for him. It's like and then it becomes
not only your favorite movie, but you remember him from.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
And there's memes all over that.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
I saw people today going, wait that that Johnson guy
who was Robert redd is not glafan Akus. That's do
that's Robert, That's actually Robert Redford. That's smiling at me.
People have been sending me for a decade. Yes, Jeremiah
Johnson exit out about a Fresca exit swalling down The
Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Carmen well
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huge play of the coming up next as well as
Tom Brady. What now that everybody seems to be upset
that he's breaking every law in the NFL?
Speaker 4 (19:07):
It help the Raiders.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
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decide when you're broadcasting a Major League Baseball game tonight, Hey,
the first home run by the home team we get,
we're gonna give it the natural treatment. Well you get
to be the play of the day.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
And now.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
To pity and it's time not paying to New York?
Can they open again?
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Met's TV on the call.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
You would see the broadcast as Baty is rounding the bases.
They have the light explode, you know, falling over him.
They superimposed stuff from the natural. They play the natural music.
You hear the crack of the bat for Redford. A
really cool thing. And I don't know if other ballparks
have done stuff like that tonight. I'm sure they have,
but that's been the big thing that's got a lot
of attension on social media.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
You know, you see the you.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Know the lights, you know, and you like how in
the movie the Light, you know, one light it's connected
to the entire staateum. You hit the wrong light, you
knocked the wrong light out that all the other lights
are gonna do.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
It's like a Christmas tree.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Yeah, that's how it goes.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
All It takes that one bulb to take down your
entire tree. All the work, all the hours.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
Now you gotta go bulb by bulb and find that
little bag of replacements that's tethered at the end of
one of those strands. You're not sure what you or
if you pull them off, what box they're now?
Speaker 8 (21:35):
Wit?
Speaker 3 (21:36):
No, you're right, you're absolutely right. You're absolutely right.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Now you're in lighting hell.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
So again, that's awesome, a big ovation for that, and
you know, as we remember the life of Robert Redford,
who passed away earlier today at the age of eighty nine,
we'll have more natural a conversation, maybe more hot takes
about some.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
More natural conversation.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
Yeah, I mean, you just tried to go through the
whole thing of logic instead of suspending your disbelief.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
I don't know that they'd really pitched to him there.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Well, it probably wouldn't know. They wouldn't. That's a whole thing though.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
You want me.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
I really think they'd be trying to set him up
on the outside, maybe get him to extend, since you
know he's bleeding. I mean I realized the first time
he actually hit the ball, the cover got torn off
the ball, which I you know you but I think
that happened once in baseball. I want to say that
sometime and there was some kind of minor league thing
where the ball where the uh, the flap came off
the ball a little bit. Some I thought I remember something.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
I mean, you had enough guys with razor blades and
stuff cutting into the ball. I'm sure that did something. Dude,
disrupt the integrity of the leather and the stitch. That's
not a ball. We want a real ball. I throw
the ball, not that, not that stuff. Give me the ball.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
I'll tell me.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
Tell me you didn't love it when the ball you
were using, you know, with your buddies out on the
play loot started to come apart. Oh yeah, that's it,
now you pull it off. It was all sticky, yeah
the way down. Let's take forever to try to just unloose.
Oh yeah, uh so, such nerds. But like this movie
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just takes when.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
I tell you, you know, in about a half hour,
because we got we had a lot of football to
get to you. I'll tell you. I'll tell you a
great story about the natural and something I did in
high school that I can't believe I did it, but
I did. But I'll tell uh So, everybody's mad at
Tom Brady. Apparently Tom Brady buying into the Raiders, having
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an active role and also broadcasting for Fox is ruining
the sanctity of the National Football Oh you know, that's
my favorite terminology we use here on this show, Stern, Stern,
you have ruined the sanctity of this Last night, a
bridge too far from Many that Brady was shown on
a headset in the booth for the Raiders game against
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the Chargers, and there's been a lot of hubbub about this.
The NFL responded to that today by saying that Brady
did not violate any NFL rule by wearing the headset.
There is not any conflict of interest with Brady being
a broadcaster for Fox and getting inside information by owning
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the Raiders and hearing what he hears for before a
game and using it to help the Raiders during a game.
The big rule for Brady, who's minority on for the
Raiders and a broadcaster for Fox, is he is prohibited
from going to a team facility for practices or production meetings,
but he sits in the coaches booth. According to the league,
he can be on zoom calls. And the big thing
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that this comes down to is all the meetings you
have before games where the coaches tell you about things
going on with the team so you can use them
for the broadcast. Right, That's where it really comes down to, Oh,
Brady is cheating, Brad shitting. First thing I'm gonna tell
you is this, right, this is the biggest thing. Nobody
cares about this. The NFL was telling you, we don't care. Yeah,
Brady didn't do anything. Fans don't care about this. The
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only people that care. Why this seems like it's a
big story is because there's sports writers and people in
the media who, for some reason, this is the the
worst thing in the world. They want to be haters
and they want to just drink that hater rate and
gulp it down and say, yeah, Brady can't do this.
He is ruining the National Football League. That's the only
reason this story is getting any sort of run is
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because there's people in the media that just really think
this is the worst thing in the world. And I'll
tell you what, nobody cares. Yeah, I appreciate body.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
The further he's gotten away from New England, we've gone
back to some semblance of rationality, normalcy, and decorum in
our discussions of Tom Brady. Now, if it goes back
and we play some highlights against the Jets, I can
see you start to get a little uneasy in the chair.
But where we're at right now, with Tampa Bay and
a couple of years of retirement, a bunch of trading
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card shops that he's opened as a buffer, you're in
a better place. Related to Tom Brady conversation in this
vein look, I get it his history. You go back
and everybody starts talking about Spygate, everybody starts talking about
to flate gate, even though as they say to flate Gate,
they either start to giggle or they readily admit that
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it's one of the dumbest things that's ever been part
of our lexicon in sports.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
But we move on.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
This would be another potential for chaos with Tom Brady involved,
and that's I think part of it is. All right,
they want it to be the next page, the next chapter,
the next paragraph on a Wikipedia page. In that regard,
he's not going into the facilities, so that does create
a little bit of a buffer, right, So he's not
walking into the building. And again I don't know if
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people think he's gonna suddenly pull out one of those
little spot cameras from back in the day, or he's
got the medical.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
I think you're going the wrong way if you want
to prove your point about spy No, no, no, only not
the right one to you know.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
But what I'm saying is that I like, is that where.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
The lunacy of being really upset about this is like,
that's what he's gonna do. He's gonna start walking in
and suddenly he's going into the shredder and he's taking it.
And now he's taping stuff back together in his home
that he lifts from the facility, or he's trying to
get out.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
On the Hey, could you go get me a glass
of water?
Speaker 5 (27:05):
And then he slips behind the desk, gets behind the
computer or starts, you know, faxing himself documents and scanning
stuff like.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Whatever.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
The coaches are going to tell how much they really
give you every and even if.
Speaker 6 (27:18):
They did giving you, but even if they did, but
even if they did go back to Greg Olsen, we
talked about it in the preseason, right he did a
Bears game and he made a reference about how much
they were gonna utilize and how much they love Luther Burden.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
You know how much that's played out, not a damn
bit now, not years Luthor, He's invisible, no, So I mean,
if nothing else, it was a red herring at this
point of lying doing this is why nobody cares, and
every and and the and the media people that care
about this is overblowing it so much, okay, because the
big thing you're coming down to is that he's in
these meetings with the coaches before the week where they
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tell you about things with the broadcast. Do you really
think these coaches are coming in saying, hey, no, Tom,
these are some secret things we're working on. We're do that,
or are they telling you flavor things for the broadcast?
And when they come up and by the time the
Raiders would play anybody, they would see everything that was
on tape from that game. You'd see everything they tried
to do. Hey, they wanted to get the ball to
this guy. What Brady's gonna go? Hey, they said they
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want to get the ball to this receiver at least
six seven times. Well, yeah, we saw the tape of
the game. They got it to him eight times. I mean, really,
you're not getting any You're not getting any event no one.
No one's coming in here and saying, hey, I will
tell you this, but don't tell anybody. Brady's not running
to the Raiders and saying this is what they like
to do. I think Brady can parse what's going on
in a football field pretty well. I think you see
the tape of the game, But no coaches are coming
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in here and saying, hey, we're giving you all our seagnal.
But that's the thing right, Well, Kevin Burkhart and say, dude, hey,
I'm a Mets and Jets fan. Tell me what this
team told you. So I could tell Aaron Glenn, I'll
call Kevin Burkhart. He's in the same meetings. So with
all of this stuff, it's almost as if they there's
just a wanton disregard and disrespect for every other coach
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and personnel person that Tom Brady would have interaction with
in the course of these meetings, Like they're all a
bunch of fanboys. They're gonna say, here, Tommy, here's everything.
Speaker 8 (29:09):
Right.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
No, this isn't a kid standing on the side of
the road asking for an autograph.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
These are professionals.
Speaker 5 (29:16):
It's Tom Brady. Okay, there's a respect to him, but
not gonna We normally don't do this, but because you're
Tom Brady, like, here's our special plays on third down
that we might trot out. Just want you know, we're
gonna give you the inside dope.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
I mean, what are we doing?
Speaker 1 (29:34):
And really, it's it's it's it's just media. Either it's
grudge media or it's I'm bored. I don't have anything else.
I'm gonna talk about how this is ruining the game
right right? Okay, does it have a look that's a
little bit odd? Sure, But I mean, did anybody get
mad when the Colts owner was down on the sideline with.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
A headset on and a play sheet. Nobody gave a damn?
Speaker 1 (29:57):
So this is so much nobody cares about this story.
Nobody does exit op by to Fresca, exit swallowing' dome.
Brady is fine, And it's not like it's helping the
raiders a rowing too, Like, really, how's it helping?
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Well, what's he doing? Is he trying to submarine Gino Smith?
Speaker 5 (30:11):
So people clamor for him to come out of the
booth and play quarterback.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
He takes off the headset, he just rips his shirt.
He's got his jersey on under like Kareem and airplane.
They pull him out.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
He's got his Laker jersey on.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
Ah, come on, get.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Back in there, Todd, Hey, really, Tom Brady's left the
booth head he's down on the sideline.
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love putting this content out for you every single night.
So the chatter on the toush push is now reached
another limit. It's like every year, we're gonna do this
every few months. The touch push is the outer limits.
The touch push is terrible. It took you had Eagles
players saying today that their blood is boiling. It's disrespectful
(31:24):
when people talk about banning the toush push. And look,
I've told you before, I don't care so much because
other teams are allowed to do it, they decide not to. Okay,
you want to talk about the safety of the play, Okay,
you can still do it if you.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Wanted to do.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
At this point, you you've got no data to support
the safety thing, right, you're you're waiting that and you've
got that box, right, you put it in your spreadsheet.
You're waiting to get that first guy that you can
put down at sea.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
He got he got hurt really badly and what did again?
Speaker 5 (31:52):
He got a he got a face mask that scraped
across his arm.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Yeah, but it counts.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Josh Allen had a broken nose. He came back in
right away, plays land Trubisky. It refers down on third
and seven. Okay, but like it's hey, hey, it's all time.
Playoff leader mitched Trubisky to you found the leader. Leader Leader.
You've seen the last year and a half teams that
don't want the toush push, try to find a way.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
What's going there?
Speaker 1 (32:20):
They're pushing and prodding and saying, okay, what works right,
Like when you when you're trying to prod the Jenga pile, like, okay,
what's the one what's the one block that's going to
move so I can grab it put it on top,
and oh, we're pushing with the safety thing. Safety things
not working. But if you want to ban it, what's
going on the last twenty four hours, this is what's
going to ban it? Because what has been the latest
the latest thing with the toush push after this past week,
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after the Eagles use it a few times against the Chiefs.
Look at how the Eagles are lining up offside, look
at how they get a jump on it. Look at
we'll get their their alignment or not lining up correctly.
And you have heard through officiating sources that the play
is very difficult to officiate.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
The Dean Blandino and the quiet part out loud.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
That is where if you want the tush push band,
that's what you have to look at and say officials
can't officiate it. You can't have a play that officials
can't look at and can't tell what's legal and not legal.
We can't have that. If you go down that road,
that's gonna wind up getting the play banned, because then
you come with all kinds of instances and example saying here,
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look right here, here's off sides, here's the two guards
getting a little bit of a forward momentum push. Here's
where the tackle is allowed to line up in this
spot you can and these are all things that are missed.
And you have Dean Blandie and others saying it's really
hard to officiate so while that part of it has
come out as hey, hey, hey, don't yell at us,
it's a hard play to officiate. Whoa, whoa, whoa. If
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it's too hard to officiate, we can't really have it
because now you can't give a team incredible advantage when
they're skirting the rules on it. If this is just
we do it better than everybody else, Sorry, you're up
a creek without a paddle, right, If they do it better,
you can still do it if you want to. Right,
you've decided not to. Okay, I'm not gonna say that,
but if you but if it's now become where they
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have an advantage because officiating they can't do it, that's
where that's what you can't. That's where that's what you push.
That's what's gonna be fungible enough for you to say, Okay,
now we can really get some lamento behind, don't we
can't have the touch push ban. And maybe next year
when they look at things, it gets benned because that's
the evidence of pushes it over the time. Yeah, they
just needed a couple more votes this last round of it.
And look, we saw an x a number.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
Of videos that got tagged right, by the NFL in
terms of impropriety of as, hey, you have no right
to redistribute that. So that was kind of an interesting
little twist to it. But we have the invisible line,
we get the all twenty two and everybody doing their
screen grabs and everything else, and it gets the chatter further.
You've got Dean Blandino, who is a former head of
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officiating all of that, so his comments are certainly going
to add fuel to the fire. And when you get
down to it, you can make some of the other
arguments and back those up again of hey, why is
it legal for the offense to push? But defensively you
still lose the opportunity based on forward progress and all
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of those kind of things that those are secondary the
officiating raising their hand and saying, hey, it's tough for
us to separate the pile, to spot the ball, to
do all of those things right, Because where's Jalen Hurts
really down trying to adjudicate that unless he's well into
the end zone.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Good luck.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
And yes, I understand it's legal for the other thirty
one teams to try it, they haven't been able to
do it.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
Do I want it outlawed?
Speaker 2 (35:42):
No?
Speaker 4 (35:42):
But certainly this week. Yeah, you found the legal loophole.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (35:47):
I would send the lawyer lawyers to make the argument.
There's Lionel Huts, go just hammer that home. I Linel Huts,
attorney in law.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Coming up next to got more in the Natural, and
we take a look at what big win from the
week it's impossible to celebrate.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Fox.
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as we celebrate the life of Robert Redford today, passed
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away at the age of eighty nine. The Natural is
the movie that everybody is gravitating towards on social media,
which is awesome because look, my favorite sports movie of
all time, because I know it's the one I keep
going back to whenever it's on I stop and watch it.
But we started the show talking about the incorrect baseball strategy.
At the end of the natural nobody better to throw
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this body, and I'm sure he will agree with me. Yeah,
throw this by as if you were getting that third
dike on the outside corner and said it trying to
path it inside again. Not my first rodeo with us
down the hotline, longtime MLB insider, MLB Network, Fox Sports Radio.
It is the Pope, John Paul Morosi, John Paul, Happy Tuesday, man,
(37:15):
How you doing?
Speaker 8 (37:16):
I am doing outstanding, my friends. The Mets one tonight
an easy win for your team, So I knew watching
that first thing unfold. I'm gonna speak to a very happy, relieve,
and newly confident Jason Smith here this evening.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
Yeah, like, I don't even care who wins now between
the Giants and the Diamond Baskers are basically time doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Somebody's gonna win.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
So okay, I'll let the stress go for me the
rest of the night tonight, John Paul, Well, here.
Speaker 8 (37:45):
We go, and I think that there was plenty of
conversation about what was going on with the pitching for
the Mets tonight. They get four innings on the Holmes
and Manaia comes in. Juan Soto continues to build, by
the way, one of the great debut seasons with a
team with a new team that any free agent player
(38:07):
has ever had. That was not as you may recall
a prevailing thought process on jan Soto season when it
was in the early days there. I recall seeing him
in Boston in May when there was all this pressure.
But he has exhausted all that dialogue. And now the
Mets are branding a little easier right now about exactly
(38:29):
what their playoff chances are.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
All right now, we'll get to the rest of baseball
in the second. But I want to throw this by
you because we talked about this a lot obviously, you know,
honoring the life memory of Robert Redform the natural, which
I'm sure you have seen approximately one hundred and fifty times.
Speaker 8 (38:41):
Like I have, of course.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
So I want to throw this by you here because
you know this is something that I really feel like.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Okay, a big error at the end of the playing game.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Right, So the Knights are down to bottom the ninth
inning with runners on first and third to young Berry.
Wild goes two and zero on Roy Hobbs, and then
the manager, Ciddy sisty, former mlber, comes and takes young
Berry out of the game, brings in John Rhodes, best
fastball in Major League Baseball, not even a season under
his belt. Aren't you walking Roy Hobbs in that situation?
(39:16):
First of all, you're probably walking him because you don't
want him to beat you with two on and two out,
you're absolutely walking him.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
If a reliever is.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Coming in inheriting a two and ohero count, you're not
trying to come from behind in this a bat. You're saying, Okay,
go down to first base. I'll figure it out with
a cleanup batter. That a character that we don't even know,
he's not even been the movie yet. I think that
was like a strategy that could have been done a
little bit differently correct.
Speaker 8 (39:39):
I think that there was a different way to pitch him.
And as we know, one of the tenants that has
always existed in in professional baseball is that if a
veteran left handed slugger has bloody spots on his jersey,
you gotta side fastball inside bastball. And that's basically what
(40:05):
what the logic was. And the catcher's like, oh my gosh, well, Roy,
what's going on? I got, I got throw on the
inside fastball, and it's we believed that forever, and he
and it was interesting because he goes with he puts
the two fingers down first and then goes one, indicating
that there was probably a system of multiple signs going on,
and he thought he could beat him inside with with
(40:28):
with a fastball. Clearly he did not, I believe, by
the way that And since you are a greater historian
in this movie than I am, but I believe that
that scene was filmed at the War Memorial Stadium in Buffalo,
New York, Am i am? I correct about that. It
was the old War Memorial Stadium, which I've heard was
(40:49):
just a cavernous old triple A ballpark. Of course, they
now play closer to downtown at salein Field, which once
was called dun Tire Park, which of course was home
to the Blue Jays for a while. Dalla Blue Jays
have their residence at the top spot of the Al East.
But yes, love Buffalo, great baseball town, great hockey town,
(41:13):
and for that movie was the home of the the
New York Nights. And certainly condolences to the family of
Robert Redford, what a legend. I would also say all
the President's men also epic that as as a journalist,
the clip has been making the rounds of when he's
(41:33):
on the phone working the Watergate story, as as the
Allan Eagleton news is going over the ticker and the
wire in the background, just cinematically, dramatically, absolute masterpiece. Robert Redford,
we have lost a legend.
Speaker 5 (41:49):
To my friends, I figured you were going to give
us a couple of lines out of indecent proposal.
Speaker 4 (41:53):
Instead, instead you went journalistic.
Speaker 8 (41:57):
I should probably stay with what I know, which would
be sports and journalism. When we venture outside and into
indies and proposal, I'm not so sure that i'd be
that I would be in my same comfort.
Speaker 5 (42:09):
Zone all right now about some marvel cinematic universe, No
like the superheroes we've been watching on the Diamond. Another
guy that probably shouldn't see another pitch to hit is
cal Raley. How do you best encapsulate what he's done
and continues to do here with record setting moments each
and every night, the.
Speaker 8 (42:26):
Best season all around that any one catcher has ever had.
You could easily argue that I realized that Joe Mauer
won three batting titles and Yogi Berra won all the
World Series rings. And obviously we don't know if cal
Rowley seems gonna win the World Series or not. But
(42:47):
in the modern game, the demands on the catcher being
what they are. The nbple runs and he's hit the
fact that he's got to keep two different swings in
line all the time, and he's catching so frequently. I
just I think that he has had one of the
(43:07):
great seasons that we've ever witnessed. And I'm not convinced
that he's going to win the MVP yet. I think
there's still a pretty compelling argument for Aaron Judge too,
And by the way, this is one of those years
when there's no wrong answer. I just think that what
Ralegh has done is so unique historically. It's just it's
really hard, really hard to catch that many games and
(43:32):
to still be that productive all season long. And where
guys people were saying in July, Oh, cal Raley, he's
gonna taper off his numbers. No way, He's going to
still be a productive hitter in the second half. He is.
And not only is that the case, he's pulling even
passing people like Mickey Mannlin, Ken, Griffy Jor. I mean,
(43:54):
it's his next level stuff. So cal Raley, the Mariners
now won ten games in a row and his MVP chances,
I would say, my friends are as strong now as
they have ever been.
Speaker 3 (44:08):
Is it this simple?
Speaker 1 (44:09):
John Paul? We break it down. Is it this simple?
If the Mariners win the West, cal Rawley wins the MVP.
If he doesn't, it's Aaron Judges.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
Is it really? Could it be that simple?
Speaker 8 (44:19):
It could be. I think that it's let's put it
this way. If I back up a little bit, it
should not be that simple, because let's say on the
last day, if the center fielder drops a routine fly
ball that with two outs the ninth inning and the
Mariners lose the division. It wasn't like. It wasn't like
(44:40):
cal Rally's season becomes any less impressive because of something
that had nothing to do with him. So I'm always
a little bit wary of that. But I'll say this,
this team has not won the America League West title
in twenty four years. They've had a surge in September
(45:00):
to give themselves a chance, and if they win it,
it's going to be because of him. I don't know, guys,
it's historically great what he's done as a catcher. This
is an MVP year. I'm not convinced he's gonna win it,
but it's an MVP year. What Aaron Judge is doing
is also an MVP year. The piece that Rally, though,
(45:23):
just to me elevates him a bit, is just the
difficulty that we have in quantifying the value of a
catcher and how many plays, the impacts he impacts every
single pitch during the course of a major league game,
he impacts when this team is on defense, and now
(45:44):
he's hitting into the mid fifties at home runs. Guys,
as a you're talking about value of a player to
his team, I just don't know that there's a more
vital player anywhere in Major League Baseball to his team
than cal Rawly is the Mariners. And that's not It's
not a Christmas of anybody else. I just think that
(46:04):
the delta between between Raleigh and the second most important
Mariner is greater than Judge. To take your pick of
a Yankee, whether it's Stanton right now, others with with
the Phillies, Shoreber to Harper. Let's say Dodgers show a
to Freddie. I just think the gap is bigger for
(46:26):
for cal Rally to the number two player on that
team than probably anyone else that's been a serious MVP
candidate in recent years.
Speaker 5 (46:34):
Fun with numbers. Current implied odds have Raleigh at a
five percent chance. Meanwhile, in the National League, we got
a no hitter f have no hit innings from.
Speaker 4 (46:44):
Shot is two yeah, nine chance of him beating Schwarber
right now, Jas.
Speaker 8 (46:57):
Those chances are they're going up. I would say the
chances are a little less than ninety nine percent. The
Dodgers would allow him to try to finish nine innings tonight.
I'm not I'm not banking on that.
Speaker 4 (47:10):
Yeah, he's already gone there ye, so there you go.
Speaker 8 (47:14):
That was I was following the boxerom before we came
on the air. That was what I was witnessing. So
he's not going to get the complete game. But everything
that Otani has done has told the Dodgers that he'll
be ready to start whatever game they need and that
he really should not have significant limits in terms of
(47:38):
his of his pitch count in October. He should be able,
in my opinion, at least get to the ninety pitch
range and if for being fair, the Dodgers rarely let
their guys go above ninety pitches in the in the
postseason anyhow so, I think in many ways he is
ideally prepared for what's to come and showy Otani all
(48:00):
the criticism that he was there are just the questions,
I should say, not criticism, but just questions about if
he was going to be able to come back, what
do you ever pitch again? How can he keep all
this stuff balance now that his body is older than
it was two years ago when he was doing this
for the Angels. I just think it's one of the
most impressive things I've ever seen his sports, which Showeyo
(48:21):
Towny has been able to do, and he's proven to
the Dodgers and the entire baseball landscape that he is
still the elite pitcher that he showed himself to be
with the Los Angeles Angels.
Speaker 1 (48:33):
He's on Twitter at John Morosi, that is at John Morosi.
Check him out on the MLB Network. John Paul is
always buddy, Appreciate it, my friend. We'll talk to you
next week. Enjoy the games.
Speaker 8 (48:43):
That was good, Hey by today. I think my Lions
Bears pick was fairly accurate. I might have given the
Bears a little more credit than I thought they deserve. Yeah, okay,
but there you go. So I guess I am two
and zero. The Lions are one and one.
Speaker 3 (48:59):
Yeah, but long you have a better record than the Lions.
Speaker 8 (49:02):
I haven't bet a record than the Lions. All right,
real good about it.
Speaker 1 (49:04):
So give me your pick for this weekend coming up?
After fifty two points against the Bears, the line, the line,
the red hot Lions offense now red hot coming back?
How do you like them this week? Monday Night against
the Ravens.
Speaker 8 (49:18):
I guess the Ravens Monday Night. My goodness, What a
great spectacle that's gonna be. I believe it will be
the Lions twenty four to twenty. It's gonna be tighter.
Notice I didn't pick twenty seven or seventeen. Detroit twenty four, Baltimore.
Speaker 1 (49:38):
Twenty undefeated celebrity Lions picker John PALMROSI giving you the
final score four Monday Nights taking the under, John Paul,
Thanks so much.
Speaker 2 (49:47):
We'll talk to you Joyce.
Speaker 8 (49:48):
But my understanding is that the Ravens didn't score a
ton of points last weekend, so I think it's there's
a bit of a low scoring vibe right now, so
it's gonna be twenty four to twenty Detroit.
Speaker 1 (49:58):
There we go, There we go, making from his normal score,
which is usually twenty seven for detection right twenty four
for the Lions this weekend.
Speaker 5 (50:06):
There goes job Tall fifty two. As you're over under
for that one. Fireworks for us.
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