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Jason Smith and Mike Harmon update the day in Wild Card Postseason Baseball. Jason compares Blake Snell to Madison Bumgarner. And the WNBA will have a new commissioner for next season. Plus, Dillon Gabriel will start for the Browns...until it's time to go to Shedeur Sanders!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:24):
to Fox Sports Radio. Greetings, Welcome inside, Happy Tuesday, Happy
opening day of the Major League Baseball Playoffs. Jason Smith
Show with my base friend Mike Harmon.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Two really big reasons you're excitable coming into the studio
other than the fact that you forgot your sleeves they
were running so fast to get to the studio.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
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Let them off Hartford Whaler's hoodie tonight because it's the

(01:10):
only sports team I can wear that. I know. Nothing
bad is gonna happen tonight because they don't exist anymore.
I mean, they're the Carolina Hurricanes, but nothing bad can
happen to the Whalers tonight. I'm wearing it tonight. I
am Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Remember, there may be a parallel universe that you haven't
figured out. You know, you haven't gone full peacemaker yet
to find that happy, blissful place where the Whalers are
still in existence. You just don't know that they might
be still losing in that alternate universe.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
This way, if Jason's a fan of them, they're losing.
It's tough. It's tough. And oh, by the way, I
do have to say this tonight, look big night. Major
League Baseball playoffs underway. Will have the latest and the
Dodger Reds game coming up in a minute. My goodness,
it's home run night at Chavez Raviem But we really
the Yankees may be done because on social media, the

(02:00):
Jets wish them good luck in this round against the
Red Sox. The Yankees are down one zip after tonight
the Jets wishing you good luck. That's it, man, You
have the Jets stain on you. I did Red Sox
can walk out of here with a with a with
a quick sweep and it's gonna be over. And really,
you want the Jets to come out against you, not
for you. That's kind of me. The if the Jets

(02:20):
today go Boston blank you. Oh hey, we feel pretty good. Nah, hey,
good luck the big good luck. Most they put out
on social media pictures of Judge and ah yeah, now
the Jets just screwed.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
The Yankees saw that and just had to start laughing.
I'm sure Walt did not find it funny. We'll have
to check in on your dad as the night goes on.
But I just want to remind you former White Sox
Ace Garrett Crochet getting it done.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
Is croutch Mike. Okay, I mean he did do the
triple h Here's what I want to know. Here's what
I don't want you to tell me. Seriously, you try
White Sox fame. Don't mess around with me. Okay, you're
the worst team in baseball the last couple of year, okay, worse.
How come every guy you trade goes someplace and is good.

(03:05):
You would think that he would be good with the
what But yet every guy you get rid of, oh yeah,
well you remember he was on I didn't remember every
guy you get rid of is good elsewhere. So you
had the guys there. Now they just just couldn't do it.
They're like, what's up?

Speaker 2 (03:17):
Well, they didn't have a critical mass. I mean, this
guy wasn't wasn't bad in Chicago. I mean the fact
they couldn't win. He was six and twelve, but he
had a three five eight e RA. That's like one
and a half with another team.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
That's what I'm talking about here, Like three five eight
it's a great damn era. Yeah, man, but if you
have enough good players. But we had enough good pitchers.
There were several Chrissale and Don and all these guys.
They were good. They were all in the playoff, all
pitching in the playoffs. The last couple of years they
shown on the play in the playoffs. They don't need

(03:51):
the four's team removal like your Jets play. Ah okay,
all right, he kind of siphons off bit by bit,
you know, like a half life of some kind of element. No,
here they go straight from one team to the next. Hey,
that guy's on the White Sox last year. What's it
gonna do. He's gonna lead them to greatness. It's coming

(04:12):
and sure enough today eleven strikeouts in those seven plus
innings to roll through. I mean the games earlier today,
just pitching dual one after another. So fun stuff to
start the Major League Baseball playoffs for sure. Yes, we'll
get to Dodgers' Reds coming up in a minute. But
game of the day so far Yankees and the Red Sox.

(04:33):
The Red Sox win it three to one to take
a one game to none lead, they go for the sweep.
Are all just chatting with the very Edwin Diaz esque
ninth inning, loading the bases with nobody out, Oh wait
a minute, wait a minute, then getting the next two outs.
Everything was up to Trent Grisham, the Yankees, all their hopes,
all their dreams resting on his shoulders. And this brings

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Speaker 3 (05:31):
He got up.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Chapman leaves the bases loaded, and the Red Sox win
Game one, three to one. In the Bronx Red Sox
Radio Network on the call, Eral Chatman made it interesting,
made for a fun ass ninth inning, I'll tell you that.
But gets the strikeout of Stanton, a flyout from Chisholm,
and then the strikeout of Grisham. The Red Sox take

(05:56):
Game one. And let me just say this before we
get into something something pretty big about that last night,
I just want to say this. I'm really, really, really
looking forward to all the Yankee fans who had so
much to say yesterday about the Mats and making the
playoffs and Wan Sodo. I'm really looking forward to seeing
all the Yankee fans rationalizing and putting out think pieces

(06:17):
on social media site about how you know, it's still
good that we went out and didn't get one Soto,
and we got all these other guys. Yeah, all these
other guys that couldn't get a run across in the
ninth in and yeah, so glad you didn't get Soto.
I feel like Vincent Price and Thriller at the end
when he goes, nah, what the hell was that Vincent

(06:42):
Price thriller. He's a man who's starting to lose his mind.
It's the exact same laugh, that's the exact I had
to wait twenty four hours. No, the seventy two hours
is broken. I had to wait twenty four hours for
my revenge on Yankee fans. Oh you suck, you suck
No One Soto. Yeah you didn't have Sodo in the
ninth thing. Did you want to come up in the
night then you tex yet?

Speaker 4 (07:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (07:03):
No, no, no, he was sending me stuff. Time was
three hours. He was sending me stuff. Opie home wrong.
After the Mets loss yesterday, I was getting stuff like
he was spamming me. It was just like like, well,
you sign up for all of a sudden, you keep getting,
you keep getting I'm like, oh my god, stop stop
stop stop stop. So I think I blocked him. It's
kind of fun. It's kind of fun tonight. Do you

(07:24):
shin them Cowboys gifts and plus now this? Uh no, no, no,
I'll save the Cowboys. After the Jets beat the Cowboys Sunday,
you should send them to Jerry Jones Audio. How's it taste? Well,
we got the Jets on Sunday, we don't beat the Jets,
may as well just give up. It's made be it
for the season for us. But let's not. Let's focus

(07:46):
on how the Yankees. Boy, they were ass and nod.
That was really that was a really tough night. I
mean really, bases loaded, nobody out in the Bronx and
Eraldus Chapman comes back to Yankees. They had seen this,
and you know the funny thing is watching people live
tweet this as it's going on. We've seen this playoff
Chapman before in the Bronx. Yeah, we've seen it. Yeah,
we've seen it. Yeah, loads of bases and then bang

(08:09):
bang bang, the inning is over, game over, Yankees tearing
it going home. All of that what you just said
there is completely irrelevant. Why is that over? The second
the Jets sent that tweet? That is true, but it
is fun seeing it play out there ilay out. Everything
else is fine we knew they were gonna get out

(08:29):
of it. Now. Look, the one thing I'm gonna say
is this is that with one out in the ninth inning,
right to get to get to talk strategy here for
a second. I really am surprised there was no tag
up on the flyout to write, because you know, you
would probably get the run in. I can't believe the
Red Sox through home, but you'll get this. It's it's

(08:50):
somewhat deep enough. And in theory, the right baseball play
by the Red Sox would be to throw it to
third base, sure, right, and to keep to keep that
tying run from getting to third. But instead you saw
him throw home. But the Yankees didn't send a runner.
I thought for sure they'll at least try to juice
a run along in that in that type of it.
Not that it mattered in the end, because you know,
they didn't get a hit at all, but I really thought, like, wow,

(09:12):
that was what like, what's you know? It brings you
more to the whole Aaron Boone thing, you know, lifting
a freed who was pitching phenomenal, got to one hundred pitches,
Take him out, Take him out. Luke Weaver comes and
gives it up right away, you know, I mean Suzuki
pinch hits and drives in a run. It's gone from
August get rid of Aaron Boone to the talk is quieted.
Now it's get rid of him, get rid of him,

(09:33):
and I mean it. I mean you see tonight and
it's a big difference. You see what all the the
managers asked of their aces for today in the playoffs,
and they came through right. Schoobl was done right like school,
the Tigers win today. Scoobl walked in, he said, I
emptied the tech. He had one hundred miles an hour
and that final inning when he was he thought, I'm
gonna be done, and they said, yeah, we need you

(09:53):
to want more inning. Okay, I'll go back out there.
He was up over one hundred pitches, right, Crochet was
up over one hundred and fifteen pitches, like Freed, who's
you to shut out? And we're gonna take out of
the game to go to the bullpen, and all of
a sudden, look what happens man? I mean that it's
just more of the Aaron Boone Like what is what
is happening here? Like well, like well, all of a
sudden they got to the playoffs and and like the
free wheeling Yankees and the never and the Devil May

(10:16):
Care Yankee, they're gone now they're going there one game
from going home. I just love that laugh.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
Yeah, you're you're a little too excited. I mean, they'll
at least still be able to say they made the playoffs.
I know, it doesn't really count for much if you
go home and you know, get swept out.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
If they win as many games as the Mets, it
doesn't matter that it really, but it doesn't matter. They
still get to hang a banner. They do Benne for
a squeaking in. It's a squeaking in banner. I say,
it's very very small bantner they put up all the
way to the side. It gets even better. But all
of that to say, yeah, I mean he was able
to skate. And because they they made it to the playoffs,

(10:59):
it gets you that stay of execution. He and Cashman.
It pushes things away, especially when you when you start going, well,
we didn't re sign that guy, we didn't do that.
We don't have these issues. And look they especially when
it's the Mets right with when they can hold up
the giant sign like everybody else has the digital accounting

(11:19):
of how much money the Mets spent and well they
didn't even make it. So I mean, we're we're on grave.
You know, it's gravy over here, which is you can
only live on that for so long. Great, yeah, some
heavy gravy, there's no question. Wait wait heavy gravy. I mean,

(11:43):
I mean I made it. You look at this and
just say, oh boy, soda would have been great in
that last sting. I mean really, that's the best part
is that soda would have been forgetting Again, all it's
irrelevant if he was on the team and he was
up uh yeah, but still it's fun to think, Hi
Stiff had some second The Jets sent out tweet it
was over guilt by association. Does your dad know this?

Speaker 5 (12:04):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (12:05):
I haven't talked to my dad. He's someone I know
I can't talk to until tomorrow, Like I can't because
I know exactly what he's gonna say. It's the bullpen's fault.
I always go, Dad, when you lose two to one,
it's not the bullpen's fault. But tonight I'm like, no, yeah, no,
it kind of was. Yeah, no, no, it was freed.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Was gonna be done shortly anyway, Right, you could say,
all right, it was one hundred and they pull him, Well,
how much further is he going? He's only going six
and a third. Like, you still got a lot of
ballgame to finish off. So a good job by the
Red Sox hitters to extended bats and force into the bullpen.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Yeah, I mean, look, this is a game where look
it's one game, and you see this here and all that,
and this is what I mean by by Yankee Nation. Now, like,
now get rid of Booneck because you knew this was
gonna come up. Because whatever decision that has made that
doesn't go the right way, it's always going to be
Boon's fault. Regardless of whether or not the decision was right.
When you made it, you got it wrong. It's like
when you and I give out fantasy advice. I was like, hey,

(12:58):
here's the advice Garrett Wilson, because the matchup is good,
and their number one cornerback is out and they're sliding
over a guy pro football fow, he's the sixty fifth
All of that could come from. And then Garrett Wilson
has a bad day and then go, oh, why didn't
you tell me why didn't you tell me to play
jaylen Waddle instead? That's your fault. Like, Okay, no, I
got I got it wrong. But it doesn't mean that
the information at the time was erroneous. Right, It's still

(13:22):
good information now we gave you. It's like it doesn't matter.
All it matters is that what the Yankees did, whatever
Aaron Boone does is wrong.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
See for the last twenty five years working in the
fantasy realm, my job is to get you to do
what I say. Whether it actually happens or not doesn't matter.
I did my job. If I made a compelling enough
case for you to toggle your lineup to that player, that's it.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
After that, it's on him to perform whatever Aaron Boone
decides is wrong and not having watch, Well, he didn't
get kicked out, So I mean, at least you got
that going has killed the Yankees. That's killed them. It's
Carl and now Aaron Boon exit ou about a Fresca

(14:10):
exit swollen down the Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Carman. Meanwhile, a home run party going on
at Chavez Ravine right now, Hunter Green Red's Ace. Well,
if you missed the beginning of the game. Because you
were in traffic, you missed Hunter Green. He is out
of the game. The Dodgers have tagged him for five
runs already. As they are batting in the bottom of

(14:30):
the fourth inning, they lead the Reds five nothing. Show Hey,
o Tawny one hundred mile an hour fastball exit VLO
about one hundred and fifteen miles an hour leading off
the game with a home run, Nanas it's a home run, Edmund.
It has been some kind of start to the playoffs
for the Dodgers. Yeah, no, yeah, he was was one
hundred Jason.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Yeah, well it was good until he threw that wild
pitch and then put the next pitch on a tee.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
So Dodgers lead the Reds now five nothing in the
fourth inning, final baseball game of the night. We'll keep
you updated this throughout the night, of course, but coming
up next when four minutes can change the course of
an entire league, and we got those four minutes earlier today,
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Speaker 1 (17:03):
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(17:27):
this game is just motoring along already in the top
of the fifth inning, Blake Snelling, the Dodgers shutting out
the Reds five nothing. It has been a night where
the Dodgers came out right away, started hitting the ball
and haven't really stopped. Shoe Heo Tani leading off with
a home run off one hundred mile an hour fastball
from Hunter Green, and that's really where everything has gone

(17:49):
for the Dodgers since, right you have to Oscar with
a home run, Edvon with a home run. They go
back to back h Dodgers starting reminding everybody, this is
why we're a big favorite, and the Reds reminding everybody, oh,
this is why we square even though we lost in
the final day of the season.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Yeah, I made a couple of bad, bad mistakes from
a Hunter Green and it was funny. It was right
before we came on air, where I'm in the back
getting a cup of coffee talking to our guys, Shay
who's working hard editing with us tonight, and the wild
pitch goes to the back stops like all right, they
move up. It's like, all right, this next pitch is
going to be a problem, and sure enough, ta Oskar

(18:23):
turns on it, three run homer and and blows the
game wide open. So three huge mistakes, five to nothing,
your lead, snow cruising along. Five innings, pitch seven strikeouts,
just sixty pitches thus far, so we can avoid the
bullpen for at least a Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's so far. I mean, look,
it's been a day of incredible starting pitching performances in
Major League Baseball. It's been some kind it's been some
kind of day, which we'll get to.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
That Cleveland game was no man Clubs Cubs and Padres
three to one final.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
This game is right now. I'm not even sweating snow.
You know you should be sweating snow sweat. You shouldn't
be sweating. Snell his twelve start one of his start
ages you like three years. Nah, you know what.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
Just because he looks tired doesn't mean it doesn't to you.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
He's been up late playing video games. Okay, it's been
a big thing. Blake wis on him heavily, don't He
has never pitched for you. You don't understand it. No, No,
I I I'm well versed in the Blake Snell experience.
How because I've watched his career for the past few years.
He's never pitched for you. It doesn't mean crappy team. Dude,
you won the World Series because Kevin Cash decided I'm
taking him out of a game that was awesome. I'll

(19:33):
tell you this about Blake Snell Harmon, So I was
thinking about this, right, just seeing the type of pitcher
he is and what he's been able to do accomplished
so far in his career. He kind of I feel
like he's on the path of becoming the new Madison Bumgardner, right,
because bum Gardner wasn't so he was never really unbeatable
during the regular season. He was always very good, right,

(19:55):
He had that big five years that she was very good.
He had a couple of years where he was, yeah,
he was. We went it's a couple of yeah, week.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
Or two ago as we were going through, like with
the Kershaw finishing of his career, where we're talking about
these kind of stretches and in the regular season there
was a three to four year period where he was
just insane. But then it got reinvented as a postseason specialist, right.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
And well when you do what he did, what seven
innings in the final game of the World Series in
twenty fourteen to win it. I mean, it's incredible, but
you know, same type of situation where, look, you got
two left handed pitchers, both have a lot of attitude.
Bumgarner was just always mad at everybody. Snell more of
a confidence in himself and seeing how yes, they perform
really well during the season, but whenever the stakes are

(20:40):
uped a bit, they have that little bit extra in
the tank. And Bumgardner clearly at you watch him throughout
his career, I don't know that I've seen a more
dominant postseason pitcher in my life than Bumgarner for that
six years. Like, yeah, I'm going all the way back
to the seventies when I'm watching bets go Okay, maybe
Jim Palmer has a great game here, but I don't
know I've seen anybody more dominant in the postseason him.
And I feel like Blake Snell is sort of on

(21:02):
that path where, yeah, really good during the regular season,
not as unbeatable as you would think, but then he
gets the postseason and you see the games he puts
out there, and you go, man, this is amazing. Why couldn'
kirsch r this? Like, man, this is amazing watching Blake
Snell do this well, four and three for his career
and ten starts, twelve appearances, three three three era kind

(21:22):
of goes back to that crochet season of last year
of the six and twelve, but you go back to
his twenty nineteen run three games appearing, it was zero
win one, but still had an ERA of one six nine.
It's got to like it was Paul Skeens. But all
of that to say, working deeper into games and always
the famous all right, I'm cruising along, but I'm gonna

(21:43):
be taken out. The one time I think I really
wanted the extended remix to see a pitcher really want
to fight his manager, right, not just the the the
thing he did with Dave robertson I'm not coming out.
That was fun. Yeah, so, but it it owes to
that run Dodgers and Rais when he's getting pulled out

(22:05):
and has that wide eyed look of am I in
the right universe right now? I mean read that. That's
kind of where I'm looking at him, see, because now
he's on the best team. Right. Snell goes to the Giants.
They have a great team for a good six year, right,
every other year they won the World Series, right, Blake
Snell has been on good teams, but he's never been
on an overwhelming favorite. Okay, now here he is. And

(22:26):
so now for whatever his career is for the Dodgers,
still in his early thirties, Like this is where his
next five or six years you could say, man, Blake Snell,
I mean you want him. I told you during regular
season the end of the regular season, he's got to
have the ball in Game one. He's got to have
the ball as many times as possible over every other
Dodger pitcher. Yea'mamotos terrific. Right. Otani is Otani. Blake Snell

(22:46):
needs the ball more than anybody in any pitcher on
the Dodgers roster throughout the playoff. Yeah, he's also one
of the guys.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
I mean before the offseason commenced till we started talking
about free agency and where guys would sign. It's not
a guy would have given a long term deal just
based on his history. Right between injuries, disappearing in the
non Cy Young Award seasons, He's been a jag, right that.

(23:14):
That's been his career. He's had a couple of massive seasons.
But then you have this deal where he comes forward
and the twelve games that he's pitched us far, he's
been amazing. So finding the right stretch, because that's the
thing that for this Dodgers team. We talked about the
bullpen a lot is that you don't have a lot
of work from guys this year. So in theory, there's
still some gas in the tank. Right, it's not you

(23:36):
only had a handful of guys actually get over two
hundred innings, which used.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
To be the standard. But but you got a Dodgers
rotation where you don't have anybody going over one hundred. Now, dude,
you can get to one twenty. Yeah, Momoto, and that's it.
What a great season? Yet to one twenty? Now? Am
I missing somebody Frosburg on this list?

Speaker 5 (23:52):
Yes, you're missing you said the most dominant pitchers in
the postseason?

Speaker 1 (23:57):
Right? Right? Okay, so you went with Bumgardner, right? Ye?
Who am I missing any powers? Oh? Yes? And once
he got his pitch back, Kenny Power, he had to
get his pitch back. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (24:08):
Even the dude from the office hit him. No, but
for real, you left off and Andy Pennett's probably one
of the most dominant I've ever seen.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
And Andy Pettitt is terrific. Any Pennet's up and Andy
Pettitt is up there. But but bum Garner just raising
his his level of play so much as it's it's
eye popping what he was at really coming out of
you know, pitching on short rest all the time and
coming in in the bullpen like like that's that's the
legend of Bumgarner. And again it looks like Snow could
be on that same path.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
Yeah, of course, the he who must not be named,
he's like Voldemort over there, would like a word, the
bloody suck.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
I got your favorite John Smoltz. Oh, sure, Smoltz is
great too. Smoltz was terrific too. But it's but again,
Braves didn't always win. They they got one, Uh they did.
They got one. They got one. They got one Dave
Justice home run and that decide in Game seven. So
we have more baseball coming up. But today is you know,

(25:08):
today was a great and a terrible day in that
it was a great day that for one league, four
minutes is going to change the course and trajectory of
this league. The bad part of it is that you
needed to have these four minutes earlier today. Nafisa Collier,
who you know we thought was gonna win w NBA
MVP this year. She was a front runner for a
long time. And then Asia Wilson the Aces you know,

(25:29):
didn't lose all the way through, and they're playing the
fever right now in a in a in a win
or go home game in the playoffs. Nafisa Collier decided
to take all the frustrations that w NBA players have
had over the past couple of seasons with Commissioner Kathy
Engelbert and the league over officiating, which they which they

(25:49):
tell you all the time, is terrible. There's consistent complaining
and the league not doing anything about it. Nafisa Collier
in a four minute I don't want to say ran
today because she came with a prepared statement in four
minutes is going to affect more change in this league
than anything we've seen in the last year and a half.
Here's a little bit of her talking about how bad

(26:12):
she feels and other players weighing in saying yes, yes,
I'm with you. How bad the leadership of the WNBA
has been the last couple of years.

Speaker 3 (26:20):
The real threat to our league isn't money. It isn't
ratings or even miss calls. Or even physical play. It's
the lack of accountability from the league office. Since I've
been in the league, you've heard the constant concerns about officiating,
and it has now reached levels of inconsistency that plague
our sport and undermine the integrity in which it operates.
Whether the league cares about the health of the players

(26:40):
is one thing, but to also not care about the
product we put on the floor is truly self sabotage.
Year off to year. The only thing that remains consistent
is the lack of accountability from our leaders.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
So there you go, starting off with a bang. Okay,
whoa lack of account o key. But we've seen this.
We've seen people talk about the front office and den
leadership and okay, so good start for us. Good it's statement. Yeah,
and then she decides, now I'm bringing out the blowtorch here.
She is one of her many specific examples in this
four minutes four minutes of Kathy Engelbert and her lack

(27:12):
of WNBA leadership.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
I'm concerned about the future of our sport. Everyone deserves
to hear the truth. We have the best players in
the world, we have the best fans in the world.
But right now we have the worst leadership in the world.
At Unarrival this past February, I sat a across from
Kathy and asked how she planned to address the officiating
issues in our league. Her response was, will only the
losers complain about the refs? I also asked how she

(27:38):
planned to fix the fact that players like Caitlin Angel
and Page, who are clearly driving massive revenue for the league,
are making so little for their first four years. Her
response was, Caitlyn should be grateful she makes sixty million
off the court, because without the platform that the WNBA
gives her, she wouldn't make anything. And in that same conversation,
she told me players should be on their knees thanking

(27:59):
their lucky stars for the media right steal that I
got them. That's mentality driving our league from the top.
We go to battle every day to protect a shield
that doesn't value us. The league believes it succeeds despite
its players, not because of them.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
That big blood that's a big space balls the flamethrower
blowtorch that Nefisa Collier pulled out on Kathy Engelbert. Okay, now,
a couple of things. First of all, incredibly gutsy to
do this. I'm gonna come out and say this. I
know everybody is on the same page, but we're sick
of of our leadership not taking us in the right direction.

(28:35):
And then the stories that she told about Kathy Engelbert
with this is what she said about Caitlin Clark, that
she should be thanking everybody. Caitlyn Clark, by the way,
I think she had a thirty million dollar deal with
Nike before she played one minute of the WNBA. One minute,
one minute, you know, so you know it's not like
she'd a WNBA to get thirty million dollars.

Speaker 6 (28:52):
So uh.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
And that is still in anticipation, of course, yes, But
the big point here is that and again, this is
what NAFISA cot to be fair, this is what Nefisa
Collier is saying. Kathy Engelbert told her right now, and
we're waiting for whatever comeback there's going to be. But
it's irrelevant because this is the players saying we have

(29:18):
no confidence in our leadership. And the WNBA is just
the right size for the players to pull a big
power play here and get what they want, which is
more better leadership. And I've told her from the beginning.
What's been the problem. The WNBA is going to face
being able to handle success, and they get They get
handed Caitlin Clark, they get handed Angel Reese, they get

(29:40):
handed Page Beckers. And still while they have incredible success,
there's the bad storylines. The officiating is bad. The players
are unhappy. The players are unhappy in a league that
has had unquestioned and an unmatched growth in the last
eighteen months. She's gone. Kathy Engelbert is gone. Whether it's

(30:00):
whether it's a votive, whether it's a vote to get
her out, or she says I'm sorry the players feel
this way, There's gonna be pressure on her because this
is how the players feel and the players are the league. Now,
would this work in the NBA and the NFL. Probably not.
Those leagues are too big to say, hey, we're upset
with our leader, but everybody's making money. We're not gonna
vote out Roger Goodell. We're not gonna vote out Rob Manfred. Look,

(30:21):
the players, they all hate Rob Manford to a person,
but he's still the commissioner. He's got too much sway.
There's no way Kathy Engelbert has the sway of the
teams and the front offices and the owners. When the
players here, who are incredibly powerful, show you that we
have no confidence in our leadership. A change has to
be made because we just watched the last eighteen months.

(30:43):
They're the game that couldn't shoot straight. It's like, why
are we doing Why aren't we just celebrating the WNBA
and talking about stuff on the court with Caitlyn and Angels. No,
they can't find a way around it. And Kathy Engelbert,
right or wrong is the commissioner. She will be gone
before the WNBA plays their next game and there will
be a new, bigger, higher profile basketball person in place

(31:05):
to help take the WNBA to their next level. Because
the players nobody wants this. They all want out, and
they decided we are going to take our empowerment and
we're going to do this, and she's going to be gone.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
My favorite of all the responses, and plenty of current
and former w NBA superstars have taken their turn on
social media to respond to this. Elena and Deladon, two
time MVP post it on our Instagram story quote, it's
the care for the human part of me. I'm not sure.
I'm still not sure if Kathy knows I retired. I

(31:37):
heard everyone but her.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
Wow, no notes, Angel Reese, that was my favorite. That
was my favorite. Ten to ten not notes, I have
no notes. Note I put it up on no notes notes.
I have no notes for that.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
This was a perfect takedown in four minutes, all the
way through Lexi Hall, I think I agree with everything
she said. And you just go on the list of
people that have chimed in WNBA response corporate lawyer stuff
as you would expect, right like no, no, no, I
didn't do that. I didn't say that, and that's not

(32:12):
how I feel, it's not right whatever that. If that's
the consensus of your players and especially your stars seven
year veteran and Collier who has a bit of work
with management right with what her husband does unrivaled and
all that other stuff, that there's some more conversations to
be had. The vote of no confidence will be there
because you're at a huge part of an intersection of

(32:37):
your sport right now. And certainly I understand folks dismiscas
like you know they should learn to shoot a layup whatever, No, no,
the on court product, there's still growth to be had there, right,
the excellence of execution we've all watched it. At times
it's difficult, but that doesn't mean that you're still not
in a place for the league to make moves with

(32:59):
regard to a fiating, retraining, re education, protecting your players,
all of those things. Those two things can be true
and run in parallel with one another. And right now
you've got a commissioner's office where you've got a full
on revolt happening by all your stars.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
She's gone right before your finals. She's gone exit out
by a Fresca exit, swalling down. We'll have more on
this story throughout the show tonight. This is an incredible story.
It's going to change the course of the WNBA. But
right now, time to find out what's trending in the
wide world of sports. Someone who's been called the Kathy
Engelbert Fox Sports Radio. Ay, he's never called me on
the phone either. It's Steve de Sege. He could come

(33:37):
back with a couple of eight Engelbert humperdinc lines.

Speaker 4 (33:39):
Oh, very good coming half a comeback. As for the
WNBA's collective bargaining agreement, yes, it expires at the end
of this season. Halftime in Game five are the best
of five semi Final at Las Vegas. Tonight aces up
on Indiana forty seven, forty five, fourteen points for Asia
Wilson so far, Baseball Dodger's up six nothing on the
Reds top of the six and is dealing. Yeah, he's

(34:02):
been good and this is good. As for great postseason performers,
I think Trek Scooble might be on that list. One day,
he had fourteen strikeouts for the Tigers in seven and
two thirds. Detroit won its wildcard opener at Cleveland. To
start the day two to one, Detroit scored two unearned runs.
And as you were talking about Madison Bumgardner, by the way,
I looked up his career. His first seven years sensational

(34:25):
with the Giants. His last seven years he never had
a winning record and earned over one hundred million dollars
in those seven years. Madison Bumgardner was never even top
three in voting for a cy Young Award in his career.
Blake Snell has won a cy Young in each league
at this point, and tonight five and a third, he's
allowed just one hit, eight strikeouts, one walk against the

(34:48):
Reds six nothing LA. It's now two outs in the
top of the six. This is Game one of the
best of three. Hunter Green, LA Native was the starter
for Cincinnati. He lasted three innings, three home runs a lo,
including a leadoff shot to right field by sho hey
O tani Well. The Cubs beat San Diego at Windy
Wrigley Field three to one. The wind was blowing in

(35:09):
and the Cubs still hit back to back homers in
the fifth a A. S. Suzuki and Carson Kelly. Then
Boston won at Yankee Stadium three to one to open
their Wildcard series. The Yankees eight game winning streak ends.
The Yankees had bases loaded, no outs bottom of the
ninth against Eraaldis Chapman, a former Yankee, who then got strikeout,
flyout and strike had to end it. This was the

(35:30):
first time that Chapman had allowed three hits in an
inning this season, and stunningly, stat Sink says the Yankees
tonight are the first team in the history of the
postseason to have bases loaded, nobody out bottom of the ninth,
not score a run and lose the game. We have
Game two's all coming up tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
Well, if one Soto had gotten hit the ninth inning
instead of all too soon, would have been a different
lineups certainly would have been.

Speaker 4 (35:57):
If there's game threes needed in these best of threes,
that would be Thursday, by the way, and then the
best of five division series all start this Saturday, including
the American League on Fox. Angels manager Ron Washington will
not return next season. Another strikeout for Blake Snell to
the bottom of the six six nothing LA, He's pitching
a one hitter.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
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(36:38):
Two big hot takes coming off a day one of
the MLB Playoffs. That's next, Jason to Mike Fox. Be
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with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern seven pm Pacific.
The home run party at vez Ravine continues. Show Hey

(36:59):
Otani a four four, one hundred and fifty four foot blast,
and I think that's a little light. His second home
run of the game, the fourteenth home run of the
game for the Dodgers. They lead this over Cincinnati now
eight to nothing. Stop the fight in the bottom of
the sixth Andy, This is that Simpson chiff of stop. Stop.
He's already dead. That's what's happening right now. Who you know,

(37:21):
I like small ball sometimes, Yeah, yeah, the top night.

Speaker 4 (37:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
I mean, if they've set off fireworks after every home
run they would have run out. They would have had
to put the sign up on the jumbo tron. We
got nothing left.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
Every other game today was a throwback to you and
I growing up and what playoff baseball was like.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
This game now with the pitchers going deep into the game,
the starters, and then one or two guys out of
the pen to finish.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
It up and one or two hits. Get him on,
get him a nahah mash. I'll tell you how you
got your guy. Little Tommy had one, Jill Tommy, Little Tommy,
I had one. Any Mets owner Tommy had Mets it. Yes,
Mets owner Tommy Evan Frostburg. Whoa move about that? Mookie
Bets is just decked by Phillips. Following Otani's home run,

(38:06):
tensions are running a little high right now at Dodger Stadium,
a little high and tight therey. Yeah, Freddie Freeman just
came to check and make sure he's okay. He got decked,
he didn't get hit. Freddy Freeman's right, Hey, you o
came in. You'll pay.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
I mean you still have to dive and unless you
land properly, that could still be a problem.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
Oh did they say it hit him? I think they're
saying it hit him. Hang on, hang on? I thought,
oh yeah, no, yeah, it grazed his uh, it grazed
his arm. It grazed his arm. So he goes down
to first base and now things might be he's a
little do just wow, was that dirty? Uh? So we'll
see what Blake Snell has to say in the top
of the seventh inning here if he comes out again,

(38:47):
ate nothing lead for the Dodgers over the red Ja
Terry frank Cone is out to just say, all right, everybody,
let's take the temperature down a little bit. Take the
temperature down. Okay, everything is fine. Pitching change happening right now.
So ate nothing new, Pa, you're coming in for the reds.
I don't think you guys realize how far that home
room was hit. Four hundred and sixty four feet They
said it well, they said four fifty four. I just

(39:10):
gave you an extra. There's only like five guys ever
to hit it.

Speaker 4 (39:12):
Like.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
He missed hitting it out of the stadium by maybe
five feet. It was almost out of Dodger Stadium. It
was almost out of the state as.

Speaker 5 (39:19):
A McGuire Stargel and Fernando Tattist Junior might be the
only guy.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
And Jane Carlos Stanton, he would never hit it out.
He hit that so far. You know he may have
hit it too. He may have hit it to where
you get the helmet nachos. Like, that's how far that
ball was in because you got to go far to
get the helmet nachos at Dodger helmet nacho. Oh man,
you catch him with the helmet noda, that would be
all do you do? Do you take it out or
you eat it with it in? Do you leave it
there there? There? It's an art piece at that point,

(39:45):
you set around it, and you shall lack it and
you sell it. There's cheese on it. I didn't do it. Nope,
you shall lack it.

Speaker 4 (39:50):
You just you.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
I need to I need to preserve this right now,
and you sell it here it doesn't on eBay. Right
here there is an art piece I like banksy well
does it?

Speaker 2 (39:58):
Does it age like a McDonald's cheeseburger as we've seen
in art exhibits that could sit there for decades and
really suffer no ill effects.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
This cheeseburger's from nineteen seventy four. Wow, okay, points it
looks pretty has it molded it? Nothing's happened here, looks
it looks looks pretty good. They spray on that. So yeah,
we wanted to bring you that this developing story here
we have. Look, we have big hot takes coming your
way from day one of the Baseball playoffs. But the
Yankees stink. Just here you goes that a hot take?
Is that? Is that really hot? And it's not a

(40:27):
hot take? Yeah, Yankees, they wish they had Soto for
the ninth inning, didn't they. One. Sodo's laughing, going, Oh,
they all hated me yesterday because I wasn't on. We
don't need you can't coun you think he's laughing. We're
better getting Bellinger and free and all. Yeah, yeah, he
really knows what's going on. Oh sure he does. One
Sotle loves baseball. Come on, man, the guy, the guys
that he's a baseball It looked like he loved baseball

(40:47):
this week and dude, well okay, I didn't love baseball
this weekend. I didn't like baseball this weekend. I do
think anybody liked how things went this weekend. Thing that
went on this weekend. You know, you know Frostburg attending
the game. It's uh, it's you know, I I know
tonight it's a big night. I'm being I wanna be
nice to you. You don't need to keep throwing the

(41:09):
Mets under the under the bus. Here we're moving on
to the playoffs. Now, we were moving on to to
a home run party. Yeah, that is true. The Dodgers
are they may win this, this series may only go
one game.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
Mic like may say that Francona just waves a white
white flag. He goes full duke and he's debating whether
he's gonna throw the damn towel or not. Yeah, he
realizes his team is done. Yeah, it's it's not so
it's not even worth it. He just drops it.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
We shouldn't even be here. We'd lost the last game
of the season. We're a couple of games over five
hundred only because the Mets are absolutely terrible as we
were in I mean, I don't know what else to
tell you. And find your wins, no, man, So this
is what's happening right now. Dodgers lead the Reds eight. Nothing.
We're gonna see more bean balls, we'll tell you. But
coming up next again hot take Major League Baseball playoffs
and a big change a quarterback in the NFL. That's

(42:00):
next right here, Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio, The
Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon. Yeah,
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generation event, The Harlem Globetrotters one hundred Year Tour. Come

(42:21):
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Get your tickets today at Harlem Globetrotters dot com. That is,
at Harlem Globetrotters dot com. The game smoky final MLB
playoff game of the night. Dodgers lead the Reds ten
to two as the Red's bat in the top of

(42:41):
the eighth inning. So, uh, Alex Vesia in for the Dodgers.
Blake Snell's night is complete? You seeing that piece? Yeah,
I think so well. I think you had an eight
run lead. Yeah, take me out. I'm good, I'm good.
I do not need to go anymore. I'm okay. I
really that's very trusting of the bullpeny. I have the guys,
I have full faith in you. I have this Fortnite

(43:01):
twitch stream thing I have going on site, so that
if I could leave a little bit early tonight, that'd
be great. So I get there for the start back
in the locker room, and he just had a video
game council almost going on that why is that door closed?
All the interviews like he's just playing with the headset
on while they're asking. They stick the mics and we'll
asking him questions. Blake, how do you think you did tonight? Uh?

(43:22):
Good yet? Ahead of working? So things were good tonight?
All right, twelve o'clock, twelve o'clock look out, Thanks, Blake appreciated.
I didn't sweat once tonight. No, Yeah, no, Frostburg did
not sweat Blake Snell. What look, I told you Blake
still Blake's But I told you last week, man, Blake
Snell is your guy. You want him the Mets, We're

(43:43):
gonna make it loft. You want him? No, I didn't.
I told you it was gonna be over and they
were gonna break my heart. I dot I was right
about that. Was that was when you were lying that
was that was like, uh, But Blake Snell is a
guy that's got to pitch the most for the Dodgers
of any star arting pitcher in the series. Like he is.
He has built for the playoffs. He has built to
have this type of responsibility. I'm glad they gave him

(44:07):
the ball for Game one and now looks like he'll
be ready for the next round as well, as long
as the Dodgers, you know, take care of business here
in the next game against the Reds. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
Look at the last five starts, you include this one.
He had in a rough go against the Pirates going
back to the being in September five innings and five
ear in runs, but since then, six scoreless innings against
the Rockies, seven scoreless against the Phillies, one run in
six against the Diamondbacks, and then a game you look

(44:38):
at this game against the Reds goes seven, so I mean,
it's just been a fantastic run for him as they
look to close it out, only another six outs.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
That's it. Six to go well and more in this
game coming up again, we have the big, big first
day in Major league bas Mary r left because she
knew it was over, but big news in the NFL
m A quarterback change is here. Yeah, And I feel
good because I feel like I feel like the bad

(45:07):
guy in the movie. Like you know in movies when
when things always go like Vincent Price, Yeah, no, I
feel like you're you're almost in the rain there too,
like you're you're something like you're not high enough in
the register. But you got the same cadence in the

(45:27):
movies where the bad guy wins a lot in the beginning,
right like the bag went like, Okay, he wins a lot, man,
he wins a lot, and he walks around saying, yeah,
so far my evil plan is going according to every
single detail I had out there, right think, like like
Timothy Oliphant in the Die Hard was a Diehard five,

(45:48):
die Hard four, which is the Diehard he was in
Good Question Diard four, the one where I conflate them,
but justin Long. Yeah, but that was a good one though.
That was Maggie Q was That was a good long
started showing up in schlocky horror. No, no, no, no,
he did Jeepers, Creepers, and then he did this. No
it's not okay. So Diehard one, Diehard two was Dulles.

(46:08):
Diard three with Sam Jackson was die Hard for the
one with die Hard. Yeah, that's it, right, we had
it had four, okay, Diehard four Diary this way because
two thousand and seven. Yeah, yeah, yeah, everything going according
to plan for Timothy Olafive, right and we got it.
We're all going good, right near Cliff Curtis gets involved, like, yeah,
everything's going great. I feel that way right now with

(46:29):
my Browns will start five guys at quarterback this season
bold prediction I gave you in the preseason because Dylan Gabriel.
According to many sources, we'll start at quarterback for the
Cleveland Browns this week, replacing Joe Flacco. Now this game

(46:50):
is not in the United States, so okay, well, we're
gonna do this. We're gonna do it outside the United States. Yeah,
we're doing outside the door again. Shadure is next, Shoudoor
will be next. But Dylan Gabriel is here. And as
I told you, hey, Flaco, the first three or four games,
they started out oh and three to zero to four.

(47:11):
Then they make the change the next quarterback. Now I
did say it first was gonna be Kenny Pickett, but
then they traded Kenny Pickets. I said, okay, everybody then
moves up one. So with Kenny Pickett gone, Gabriel moves
up to be the next guy. Then after that'll be
Shador Sanders, and then it's gonna be whoever they wind
up bringing back off their roster at some point, you know,
fourth and fifth, the Als, five guys. Everything is according
going go according to plan, Mike Harmon, I got Flaco

(47:31):
through the first month. I said October first, it's gonna
be Dylan Gabriel. And here comes Dylan Gabriel to start
for the Browns.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
I'd be curious if they'd actually won that game. Going
back to the opener, you know with the kickers against
the Bengals, if they were two and two, would they
be making the change yes, they've gotten thumped twice.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
Yes, yes they have.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
They've gotten worked pretty hard two of those games, one
of which was also a lot on the offense and
their failures and down stants, et cetera. But they got
absolutely run over by Detroit this week. And it really
wasn't even David Montgomery who would normally be doing the
running over more and more Jamiir Gibbs and the excellence

(48:12):
of execution. So you make the change here. Look, a
lot of Shador Sanders talk over the course of the week,
Pop said and chimed in about the draft and everything.
So that's swirling, and then Shador saying he's better than
a lot of quarterbacks. You might as well just put it.
Put Joe Flacco's name out of his mouth at that point.
Oh sure, I'm better than that guy.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
Yeah. Now it's old and he's running scared. He can't
do anymore. He was once elite. Now he's just a guy.
So yeah for Dylan Gabriel, like, they'll run him as
long as it looks moderately efficient, Like there's no there's
no rush to the lineup. No, no, because now that
they made the change, the two guys you have to
see this year. Now at this point you would think

(48:55):
and if you don't, you know that they they you
can get to conspiracy theory that the Browns took him
in the fit round just a benchim so we didn't
play the only two guys you really have to see.
Now you gotta see Gabriel for a few weeks, and
you got to see you do a I gotta say
that's that he's he's really got to be coached up
this week. And I'm talking about Sudor Sanders because it's
a Brian Flora's defense coming at you overseas. So Dylan

(49:16):
Gabriel is gonna see some things he's never seen before.
And that guy's played a lot of football. So on
this report, Yahoo, ESPN Cleveland, Mary kay Cabot, longtime Brown's insider.
Now here's the thing you mean the comedian, Uh yeah, yeah,
the comedian. Uh. She's gonna be hosting the Emmys next year.
Gabriel be the quarterback however long he is the quarterback,

(49:38):
as you said, Joe Flacco has done. Unless something happens
to guys that they're going to play at some point
in the next few weeks, because like I said, you
have to see Dylan Gabriel. You have to see Shodor Sanders.
I don't think you can say, Okay, here's Gabriel if
he's not if he's not any good, we'll go back

(49:59):
to Joe flaccoat They need to see Shador Standers. And
why wouldn't you right at this point, this is the
season you're in, right, I mean, I told you should
have traded for a quarterback. Your defense is good enough,
go out and get a quarterback. But this is the
way they want to go. Whatever they're tanking for for
next year, but it needs to be Gabriel for And
if Gabriel's great, okay, keeps the job right, it keeps
all of But if Gabriel falters, you kind of have

(50:20):
to go to Shador Sanders or there will be a
revolt by Browns fans. And you need to see him
at least a little bit to know that, Okay, this
guy we took. You understood drafting him. You were gonna
have to play him at some point if they don't
play him again. I can get on board with that
conspiracy theory of hey, the NFL doesn't want you door
Sanders to play. They don't like him. They don't like Dion.
So the Browns took him as a favor and they're

(50:41):
gonna bury him on the death chart. But I gotta
think the brown I mean, the Browns are gonna try
to do whatever they can just out the last place.
But knowing that this is this is your situation, Gabriel,
I'm sure is gonna get at least five weeks, right.
I'm sure he's gonna get to at least just past
the midway part of the season. Even if he's not good.
Things have to get really really desperate, really really bad

(51:04):
where the Browns are non competitive to get to Shador Sanders.
But I also don't see Dylan Gabriel having that kind
of an impact where all of a sudden he's got
to keep the job all the way through the end
of the season. So yeah, I feel better than ever
that it's gonna go Gabriel to Shador Sanders. And then
where do you go, right, because are you dalking a
mystery quarterback? Brown's gonna give him that job or well

(51:25):
they go back to somebody else again. My five guys
prediction looks pretty good right now, but it's gotta go
Gabriel to Chador at some point midway part of the season.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
Curiosity, right go back to the offseason when Miles Garrett
was I want to be traded, and then they paid
him a lot of money.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
We're gonna win a super Bowl. Okay, cool? How does
he feel now? After four weeks you go to the rookies.
Now Joe Flacco's off to the side for the moment,
and you're sitting here at one in three. He gave
away a game back in week one against the division rival,
and now you're just playing out the string after four weeks.

(52:03):
That's kind of where you're at at this point already. Well,
this is where you can come back with that. But
I'm rich as blank, you know.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
But you got Minnesota Pittsburgh, then you got Miami, New
England bye week before they're on the road at the Jets.
But all of that to say, the offense, you got
a pretty good running back in Judkins. He's looked pretty
good since he's joined the squads. So perhaps you can
get into a little bit of a play action scenario
and find you just lost Tilman for a couple of weeks,

(52:33):
so that certainly doesn't help your receiving corps. But you
got a couple of tight ends on the roster. You
look at Jerry Judy, perhaps you can start pulling the
strings a little bit, get to a timing offense that
that works a bit, But it's it's just for your
point and to tie to the Miles Garrett the preseason, like,

(52:53):
all right, have we already thrown the towel on this?
Because for Shudor Sanders, I can only go so far
with the conspiracy theory. Part of it is he just
may not be a guy that's showing you what you
need at practices because you're gonna throw him out just beah.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
But but but that's the thing about a quarterback. You
don't really know until you see him play. And if
you're one to ten, you're gonna go to him, right,
You got to, because what if he's great all of
a sudden, whoa, he said, You don't know. I get
that he delivers the ball a little late. I get
that he's not quite there. But you really don't know
about a quarterback until you see him on the field
the honest moment. With the teammates that are working with him,

(53:33):
it's like, yeah, but I think there's some team. I
think there's he's probably got some some people on the
team that want to see him curiosit, Let's say, hey, sure,
not not right now, but at some point this season
he has to start a game. I'm when Dion said,
all all start to get yeah, I mean again, five quarterback,
five guys. Yeah, I've gotten exactly he's gonna start, and
he really has to because after this year, you're gonna

(53:54):
turn the page on this quarterback situation. Likely you're gonna
draft Lenora Sellers, You're gonna draft Carson, You're gonna draft
Arch Manning, You're gonna draft somebody right right, Well, you
never know. I mean, he may be great the last
six weeks and say I want to be done, but
you're gonna get another quarterback, right you did this whatever
you did in the draft this year, which was ridiculous,

(54:15):
but you're gonna move on. You need to see Chador
Sanders go okay. Is everybody good? Everybody good? So we
can move on. Because outside of that, then he hangs
over the franchise of why did we draft this guy?
With all the talent everything going on. There's no there's
no reason why we drafted him in the fifth round
unless we thought he was going to play right, There
was no reason to draft him at that point because

(54:36):
you had your court right, you had Flakop drafted Dylan
Gabral the third round. Obviously, drafting a guy in the
third round you think maybe he can start at some point,
But then why do you draft a guy in the
fifth round unless you think at some point he can
start for us? And you again, a quarterback, you just
never know until they get out on the field. You
have no ideaok So he's gonna play at some pointment
we're gonna get multiple starts from Shador Sanders at some

(54:57):
point this season. It's just not gonna be for a
little because clearly Dylan Gabriel will get a lot of run,
He'll get a lot of a lot of chances to
show if he can do it, can't do it, Like
this is not gonna be immediate unless something happens to
Dylan Gabriel. Uh, and then said, maybe they go back
to Flacco in the short term and then it's shed
door standers. But if Dylan Gabriel is healthy and playing,
he's gonna get a while. Like this Sanders thing is like, Okay,

(55:19):
he moves up next, but it's still gonna be a
few weeks before it happens.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
Week five of the NFL season. That's the most Cleveland
Browns talk.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
You're gonna get here, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,
well maybe minutes. Fun guys, man, five guys are gonna start.
No read It's right, I said Flacco till October. Flacco
did even make it to October. October's tomorrow. He didn't
even make it to tomorrow, and even get through out
of technicality.

Speaker 4 (55:44):
I made it.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
I made it by a day and a whole day
to sdamn aftare on this all right? August First, what
are we doing? Hey there? He is, okay, great, We're
good to go. We got we got Dylan Gabriel in there.
What a mess? Yeah, I mean really uh and good
luck right because you just you know, you saw it.
The Vikings defense did a couple of weeks ago to

(56:05):
to a quarterback who hadn't played in a while. We're
gonna throw him in there. Good luck, good luck.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
Yeah, I mean he's helped by the fact that the
Cleveland defense should be able to give him decent field
position a bit, because you've got a lot of injuries
going on in Minnesota as well.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
Do you think in fantasy right now, I could trade
the Vikings defense for Josh Allen. Do you think there's
do you think you're gonna get more points than me
than I am with Josh Allen? I gotta I gotta
look up with the projections this week, the Vikings defense
may be projected to have more points than anybody in
the NFL. That could be the case. We're gonna take

(56:42):
a look at that, Oh, Tim, how to find out
what's trending in the wide Worldeah, the the top defense
on the butter, the top player over the projections. Let's
find out what's trending from special delivery Steve de Saeger,
Steve O, what do you got for us?

Speaker 4 (56:57):
Well, it's a good thing the Dodgers have a large
league because now the bullpen is in play. It's Dodgers
ten to two over the Cincinnati Reds and their wildcard opener,
top of the eighth inning, one out, bases loaded for
the Reds. A superb start for LA's Blake Snell, nine
strikeouts in seven innings, ninety one pitches thrown. Show Hey
Otani with two home runs, including a leadoff shot tonight.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
And that was a shot.

Speaker 4 (57:21):
They've had stat cast for how many miles an hour
off the bat for the past decade. This is by
far the hardest hit home run off a one hundred
mile an hour pitch that anybody's had in the last decade.
Previous hearted hardest hit off that kind of pitch was
one hundred and thirteen point seven miles an hour. Tonight,
Otani won seventeen point seven miles an hour the Dodger bullpen.

Speaker 1 (57:45):
Wow, not good.

Speaker 4 (57:46):
This was the perfect spot for ten Or Scott, was
it not. Instead they bring in Alex Fassia twenty two pitches,
one out, no, and now they're bringing in Edgardo Enriquez.
See if they can finish up there. Yoshinobu Yamamoto the
LA starter for Game two against Zach Lttel. If a
game three is necessary on Thursday, sho hey O Tani
could start. The Cubs are up one game to none

(58:08):
and the best of three after beating the Padres three
to one. The lost in Nick Pavetta, who did have
nine strikeouts in five innings, but the Cubs hit back
to back homers in the fifth from Seya Suzuki and
Carson Kelly, hitting into the wind at Wrigley. Suzuki has
homered in five straight games. Now The Padres offense got
back to back doubles in the second inning, then went

(58:28):
two for twenty five the rest of the game. Boston
beat the Yankees three to one in New York Tonight,
the Red Sox took the lead in the seventh on
a two run pinch single by Masatake Yoshida. More on
him in a moment. Garrett Crochet the star on the mound,
eleven strikeouts, no walks in his seven and two third innings.
He threw one hundred and seventeen pitches, the last guy

(58:50):
in the postseason to throw one seventeen or more with
Steven Strasburg in twenty nineteen. The last Red Sox pitch.
I think that was the last pitch he threw in
his career yet, and he was done and his arm
fell off. The last Red Sox pitcher to throw more
than that in the postseason Pedro Martinez in the ill
fated Game seven against the Yankees over twenty years ago. Well,

(59:11):
the Red Sox in the regular season, when they were
leading going to the eighth inning seventy one to four.
They eventually closed this out. It was interesting the Yankees
did that, bases loaded, no outs, bottom of the ninth
against Eraaldus Chapman, but then he got strikeout, flyout, strikeout
to end it, and Yoshida, as the pinch hitter, on
the first pitch he ever sees in his MLB postseason career,

(59:34):
he gets the go ahead team hit with his team
having trailed. That's not happened before in Major League Baseball,
and yet again we see the Yankees bullpen in action.
Luke Weaver takes the loss, ruining a great start for
Max Freed. Since July first, the Yankee bullpen has the
worst ERA in the majors well over five. Detroit started

(59:54):
the day with a two to one win at Cleveland.
Detroit scored two unearned runs. Cleveland's offense I went four
for thirty fifteen strikeouts, a lot of that by Trek Scoobl,
the winning pitcher. Cleveland barely got the ball out of
the infield. Angels manager Ron Washington will not return next season.
The Halos are now looking for their sixth manager in
the last nine years. Cardinals manager Olie marmaul will return.

(01:00:18):
The sale of the Tampa Bay Rays was finalized. The
Minnesota Wild sign left winger Careel Caprisov to a record
eight year extension worth one hundred and thirty six million dollars,
and we're about to decide who's going to the WNBA Finals.
It's Game five of the best of five semis Indiana
at Las Vegas, tied at eighty four under thirty seconds

(01:00:38):
to go, and as you mentioned, Kelsey Mitchell of the
Indiana Fever left with a kind of scary looking either
knee or quad entry. She said no to the stretcher
and was able to limp off with help. She's not
returning tonight to say the lease back to you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
Thank you, Steve. Jason Smith Show with my best friend
Mike Carmon. We have controversy near the end of game
five between the Aces and the Fever. It's tied at
eighty four apiece with twenty six seconds left to go.
We have more on this, and you're not gonna believe
what one NFL head coach said about the tush push

(01:01:13):
going into this weekend. That's next right here, Jason and
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