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(00:31):
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Speaker 2 (01:18):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
I have a big night to get too we got
two games in Major League Baseball. Dodgers now one game
away from the World Series. The Blue Jays wanted to
people know, hey, hey, we're still alive here. Don't shovel
durning us yet. And of course Thursday night football second
half about to start in is the Bengals with a
seventeen to ten lead over the Steelers. But the Dodgers

(01:40):
win Game three, three to one, in another game in
which it was an incredibly well pitched game, Tyler Glass.
Now now they Dodgers eat a little bit more out
of their bullpen because Glass, I'll get into a little
bit of the sixth inning through about ninety nine pitches,
but you get what you need from tryning from banda.
Sasaki looks like he's back in the outing. He had
a couple of days ago in his rear view mirror.

(02:00):
And this is three incredible pitching performances by the Dodgers
in a row to move one game away from the
World Series. If you're a Milwaukee you are saying, right now,
what do you want us to do? We had just
run into a pitch, a starting pitching buzzsaw, which is
exactly what the Dodgers envisioned it to be. When they
gave Blake Snell money, when they gave you a motto

(02:21):
three hundred million dollars, when they gave Tyler Glaston one
hundred and seventy five million dollars. This is exactly what
they vision and vision. And I gotta say, Ah, the
Brewers need the X, Y and Z. What are you
gonna do? I mean, you have run into an absolute
pitching buzz saw this round with the Dodgers. You just
throw your throw your hands up and say, Okay, maybe
we'll get back at it. Maybe we'll get some run.

(02:41):
Maybe we'll get a run, maybe we'll get two runs.
Maybe that'll be enough. I don't know. But what are
you gonna do? You can't it's nothing. They've done nothing
they could that this. Sometimes you just run into a
team that is just absolutely white hot. It's not like
the Dodgs are hitting, but they're hitting enough and they're pitching.
I'm gonna tell you what this reminds me of in
a couple of minutes, which is a little little nerve
wracking for the Dodgers. But they're not nerve wracking right now.

(03:03):
They're feeling pretty good. Yeah, there is there is nothing
going wrong right now. This is an unbelievable onslaught of
pitching from the Dodgers in the end, and.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
Pat Murphy, I'm sure he'll be complaining about salaries and
caps and when I'm just a humble manager here, I
have no thoughts on you.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
You had the best record in baseball, You hadybody mean
we have the best record in base fight You've.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
Always got his cry about the disparity in pay you
one ninety seven games.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
They don't know our names and blah blah blah blah blah.
Here's the thing we talked about it coming into the series.
You only have two guys that could qualify on the
current metrics as quasi thumpers. You didn't have a forty
home run guy.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
You have two guys over twenty eight home runs, which
meant it was about generating runs. Get them on, get
them over, get him in stolen base. Uh was one
of the big weapons in the arsenal all year long. Well,
when you only account for four hits and the control
has been fantastic all three pitchers. You look at glass
now at another eight strikeout performance. You're not getting on base.

(04:04):
You're not even giving yourself a chance to be gnats
to be annoying, and that's the tail of the tape, right.
You can't manufacture a run without getting on, which goes
back to terrang and how different it all is if
he just leans in right, knowing that every run was
gonna be at a premium because their pitching was great.

(04:26):
Misrowski's so much fun to watch when he's on and
healthy and ready to go. Maybe not for Dodger fans,
but they got that run early, and that's it. You
never look back, right, you get the one to one,
you finally get the lead, and you make it hold
up Sasaki clean and easy, thirteen pitch ninth inning, eight
strikes strikes out of that. So, I mean he was

(04:46):
ready to go, so all of its reset and you're
in a really good position because you didn't have to
tax any of these guys really hard and him throw
a lot of pitches and you go into Game four
with the commanding three to zero lead. Now we see
what Otani can do in the pitching side.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Here's the thing you talk about, and this is this
is one thing that I feel like I'm I'm kind
of done with after today because it really didn't make sense. Right,
We'll get to the Dodgers in a second. But you
watched the Brewers decide, and this has become a real
thing in vogue the last four or five years, is
to have openers and have different pitching plans. Instead of

(05:20):
here's my starting pitcher out there, we're going to pitching plans,
and by and large they work. Right. I think the
record of teams that go with bullpen games or openers
are like a ten and five or something like that
when they've gotten decisions over the course of the past
five years in the playoffs. So it works to it,
It works to it. I get it. But here's what
I don't get right, And I didn't get this today

(05:41):
watching the game. So obviously Miserowski's coming in and he's
gonna be he's gonna be great. Right, He's gonna come
in and and the Brewers expect him to come in
after the first inning and pitch however long you need to.
Right now, obviously he was ready to come in the
first inning because he did come. He had to. Right,
the Dodgers get a run, and Miserowski it's the damage
which is which is great, and then he's great over

(06:02):
the course next four or five innings. So here's what
I don't get. If miss around, if he's ready to
come in that early, right, he's ready to come in,
and he's gonna come in after the first inning anyway,
why is he not starting the game, Because what the
flip side is gonna be is, well, we have an opener.
However many pitches he goes, and then we bring in
our best guy, and then we get an extra couple

(06:24):
of innings because it's only a couple of times through
the order. And I'm like, okay, well time out a second.
You can always do that on the back end. Right,
If you want to start Miserowski and he goes five
six innings and hey, you get to the order a
third time, you can always make the move to the reliever.
Maybe you need to, Maybe you don't, right, Maybe Miserowski
is saw in bats and you don't need to do it. Right,
But why would you have a lesser pitcher pitch to

(06:46):
the best three hitters or best four hitters in a
team's lineup when clearly you are ready to go to
a better guy for a longer amount of time that's
coming in. That doesn't make sense. I mean I get
where you think, oh, we can skate through the first
inning and they're only gonna see him once and he's
not you know, the odds are Baseball is a game
of failure and getting a run is a thing. But

(07:07):
why would you start somebody, Why would you and not
have your best pitcher that you're gonna pitch that day,
pitch against the best hitters on the other team. I
don't understand that. And this is where I think managers
get so out of control with the bullpen games and
the openers and this. It's like, dude, if you have
a guy that's been and miss Rowski has been really

(07:28):
good in the playoff, right, he was great in regular
season to start, then he hit a lull a little bit.
But you can see the talent this guy, the way
he is throwing. I would want him out there the
first couple of times through the order, and then if
I have to make a change, I'll make a change.
This is we're planning on making changes before we see
how the game goes. When my idea and the idea

(07:49):
that I think this is why I can be a
major league manager is Okay, let's start the game with
our best idea and we'll adjust as the game goes. Right, Okay,
Misroowski doesn't have it all right, we take him out,
we go to somebody else and X, Y and Z
and that, But I'm gonna go to him. I want
him to face the best the best hitters in the lineup.
I don't want him to come in after Goo. Well
then then two more times through the lineup. Okay, yeah,
but you don't know how the game is gonna go

(08:09):
the rest of the way. You know what's gonna happen.
All you've done is I'm not putting him up against
the best three four hitters in the lineup, and the Dodgers,
and what happened. They were chasing run already after the
first time. That's it, right, Ashby starts and he had
already been seen twice in this series, like he's pitched
in every game. And I get it to a degree, right,
the old oh and playing the percentages Simpson with two

(08:32):
lefties in their first four hitters, however, nine home runs. Today, however,
Otani leads off with the triple Mookie Bets doubles, and
just like that, you're behind, and the only last sixteen
pitches only gets one out before you go to Miserowski,
who was fantastic until fantastic, well until the shadows went
away until yeah, right, but he still really un You're

(08:54):
running in the shadow big deal, you're running the shadows
of the He's not shadow proof. No he's not. No, no, no, no, no,
he's not the shadow Man, that's for sure. But all
in five innings, pitched three hits, one ear and run,
and nine strikeouts. I think you'll sign up for that. Yeah,
but I okay, you start the game and all of
a sudden it's bang bang, Oh you're losing, and now
we're going to him, like, what do you do?

Speaker 4 (09:13):
Like?

Speaker 1 (09:13):
Sometimes managers get too cute, they get too involved in
a plan and not as much as Okay, you gotta
have a feel for the game and how it goes.
And what you're doing is you're saying, this is our plan.
We're gonna do this, this and this before we even
see what happens in the game. Well guess what. When
the game starts, different things happen, And it's about how
you adjust. I would rather adjust to boy Miserowski giving

(09:36):
up a triple in a double. Okay, now we got
adjust because he clearly doesn't have it tonight. Because if
he didn't have it. Then when you go to him
the second inning, then you go into a third pitcher
because if he doesn't have it, to take him out
even earlier. So now you're another pitcher down if Missowski
doesn't have it. So I've like managed, they just get
too cute and too caught up with a whole strategy
of oh, we're gonna do this and this, because I'm
the smartest manager in the world and I know of it.

(09:58):
Ashby again, who now the team has seen a a
couple of times. He's gonna go in the first inning
and we're gonna hope to escape. By We're gonna hope
to escape and get out of the first inning. Otani's
not been swinging the bat. Well, maybe we can get
through here. And then hey, we're feeling good because then
we got Mizerowski through the lineup the next two times.
In theory, but everything changes when the game begins, and
that's the whole thing. And this is this is all

(10:19):
you know, managers who I don't know if because they
feel like they don't have as much impact on the
game as it used to because many front offices make
all the moves. But you gotta have that feel during
a game as to what you got to adjust during
the game. You can only go in with so much
of a plan to say, we want to do X,
Y and Z. What are you gonna do when it
doesn't happen? Okay, well now you go. Now you go
to your best pitcher and it's great, but you're chasing

(10:40):
because you decided, oh, we're gonna have some crazy strategy
where we don't have our best guy pitching against the
best guys in the lineup. But it dies together and
that you're chasing one run. And guess what's really been
hard in this series for you? Scoring runs? Yeah, you're
right on that one. I'm so smart. You're you're not

(11:00):
Jennie runs. You got any Barry Bonds battle armor sitting
around that you can, you know, give a guy to
stand and lean in to get get a runner on
base because you're you're having continually terrible at bats.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
So every run has been magnified. It's not like the
Dodgers are doing a conga line around the bases here. No,
they had a couple of solo home runs. It's fine, right,
I mean, it was never in doubt ball.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
But they've they've scored a total of ten runs in
three games, You've scored three. Yeah, right, so every one
of those moves gets magnified on a whole other level.
And chasing down one. Oh guess what, you haven't gotten
graded bats, But now you know that runs are at
a premium.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
Guess what, the bats get that much worse. It's just
human nature. They start chasing and pressing. And that's what
you saw as this game wore on. Glasow could have
pitched himself into a couple of bad situations. Guess what,
they bailed them out every time with a bad swing.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
I mean really, it's uh. You have to understand that
when the gate, like the mold Mike Tyson thing, everybody's
got a strategy till they get punched the mouth. Sometimes
you don't get punching them out to the fourth round.
Maybe you don't get punch in the mouth at all.
Sometimes the first punch is getting punch in the mouth.
And oh, what we gotta do here? Because the check
so clear, that's the coding question going through your living.
You got punched them out. And the fact that Missowski

(12:19):
comes in with runner at second and nobody yeut, bang
bang bang. I have a pretty I have a pretty
I feel pretty good saying that I think he would
have kept them off the board in the first inning.
I think he would have kept them off the board
in the first inning just throwing one hundred one oh
two is that I think he would have been.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
Okay, how many kids do you think showed up with
Murphy in the post man? Bring a bunch of guys
out to La. No, this is like a like a
like a like an all extended family. It's it's like
my kids, my my siblings, kids, their kids. So since
we're going home tomorrow, let me introduce you all.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
My extending Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. La is a lot
closer to can Kun Milwaukee is everybody. Yeah, because you
if you're leaving right from here after the game, after
Game four, you just got bat flying right out. You
just get what it is, all right, guys, great season.
I know we're packing up. Everybody's going. You guys are
going back. We're you know what, we'll get together in

(13:12):
a week. We'll have our end of season meetings. But hey,
great job, great job. Let's go. We gotta get there.
I'll see on that zoom call. Gotta get there. He
is wearing the Jellies tonight. He was on his phone.
You can see me. He's on like Expedia looking for
about for the flights. Hey, I get that flight tonight.
It can leave, but I kind of have to stay
for game four though. If I leave, no, I'll stay

(13:35):
for one more game, all right, I'll stay for Skie
Game four. But now I need You need kids. You
need adult children, like you know, the kids are like
in their sixteen, seventeen, twenty twenty five years old. You
everybody there, if you're Pat Murphy full range, well go long.
I've been teaching even even just for even even kids
of your friends. Hey, listen, I need more. Any more
kids here? I need more. This is bad. We're down threes.
If I need five kids on one side of me,

(13:57):
five kids on the other. He turns to the young
He goes, this is my game four starter. I mean
because the disparity in payroll. I mean, this is all
I got. I gotta look like John and Kate plus
eight like on steroids. I need that.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
Man.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
I need Brady Bunch times too. That's what I need.
You're going back in rewind.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
I mean we just commemorated eighteen years of Kardashian I need.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
I mean, how long is you Can I get the
octomom with all her kids here and sit in front
of me. Who the wow? You're getting everybody? That's everybody
all right now? Ask me whatever question you want to
ask me about openers. Look at all these kids here
that are hearing every word you say.

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Speaker 1 (14:37):
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Speaker 1 (15:52):
He's on the left and I'm on the right. We're
watching sports on all our TVs and it's out of
sight here we are on at night. We'll have more
on what's going on Thursday Night football, major League Baseball
in a minute. But obviously look the big stunning news today.
Ace Freeley, Kiss lead guitarist, dies at the age of

(16:13):
seventy four, succumbed to a brain bleed. That he had
a fall in the studio a few weeks ago. We
talked about this the other day, you and I that
he had to postpone a bunch of gigs because there
was an accident he had, but he was going to
get back out hopefully in the next.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
Yeah, they'd already scheduled some stuff for you know, late
February early March of twenty six.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
Man TMZ had the story today hospitalized with a brain bleed.
It did not look good. And then we get news
late this afternoon. Ace Freeley dies at the age of
seventy four. And you know the thing about this, since
it's a sad story, because Freeley's one of the more
more love guys in rock and roll history, had a
great sense of humor. Everybody liked talking to him. It's

(16:55):
it's in times like this, like I always I feel
good about rock and roll in general, because, like I
get to talk to people who don't know what Ace
Freely and Kiss was. I mean, kill, Kiss is one
of the most iconic bands rock bands of all time.
And you have some kind of no matter how old
you are, you have some kind of working knowledge of Kiss. Sure,

(17:16):
but I got to tell you this and this is
this is what I told Tysher because he was like
Ace Friel, he didn't really know Kiss, And I just said,
you know how big Taylor Swift is right now, right, okay, biggest,
biggest recording star in the world, right all this stuff,
Taylor Swift, Taylor Swift, Taylor Swift is the junior varsity
compared to what Kiss was at the height of their
popularity in the seventies and early eighties. That's bold, but

(17:38):
I like it, And this is this is back probabm
but mainly because hey, you go back when when Kiss
had the makeup on. Obviously they all have the different masks,
and obviously you know Ace Freeley was spaceman and the
overall interest in Kiss was it dwarfed? What what people
think about tailor swipt? No, great, It's a different time frame,
a different landscape back then, with less music, less things

(18:01):
to do. But Kiss, like I try to tell people
they were there was such a popular I couldn't even
they had movies. They were in movies, they had Each
of the members of the band did a solo album.
The drummer Peter Chris did a solo WELB, but also
had a big song right like this song back in
the New York group, which I listened to at least
two or three times a week more during the baseball season,

(18:23):
the biggest song of any of the Kiss members coming
off of their solo albums. Who had Ace Freeley on
that he was the guitarist, not the singer. I remember
when they were on Hollywood squares, they had the big
square that went all the way out to the side.
There was four of them. They were in movies Kiss
meets The Phantom of the Park. Like there was nothing
bigger music wise for a good seven to ten year
stretch than Kiss. They were dangerous. I remember being scared

(18:45):
of them because I was just young enough to get
to get Kiss in the songs and love Gun and
rock and roll night, and here they are with all
this makeup on, and like, I'm scared of Geene Simmons.
He's the guy that bites, the bites, the blood PAGs
in his mouth and it comes to the blood comes
all the way down. As I was scared of Kiss,
but I couldn't stop listening to their music. And I
wanted to get Kiss double platinum for Christmas so bad.

(19:05):
It was the only thing I put on my list. Like,
I don't think people understand it. Show up under the tree?
How big? Yes, I did get the ble okay, oh yeah,
like just how big Kiss was. Like I remember Tarantino
saying this, Hey, you know when when pulp fiction came
out and and here's John Travolta getting his second career
and people were kind of seeing him for the first time.
I remember him saying, Hey, Tom Cruise had his heyday
and this is Tom Cruise, few good men and top

(19:27):
gun everything else. Tom Cruise couldn't touch how popular John
Travolta was in his heyday late seventies, early eighties, right.
I remember him saying that, like twenty five thirty years ago,
and I feel the same, like, no one understand all
the how popular as people are right now. No one
understands just how popular Kiss was and how big a
deal they were in the rocks and in the music scene.
Like I remember when they didn't have when they because

(19:50):
all they did was where uh face paint? Right, they
had all the different masks on and the face paint
and there was like millions of dollars from all these
different pop rotzi that said, if you could get the
first picture of a member of Kiss without their their
paint on, you know, with without the with without and
it's like, WHOA, what are we gonna do? Can I

(20:10):
get a picture of them without the makeup on? Okay?
I remember one guy actually got a picture of Gene
Simmons who was dating Chaer, but nobody knew what he
looked like, and it never got published. I remember Geen
Simmons doing an interview saying, one guy's got it somewhere.
He took a picture of me and Cherry's kind of
popped out boom, and I'm like, well, that's the that's
the game right there. They're all gonna see us without
makeup on and and and I don't know what's gonna happen.

(20:31):
And now we got to figure out the next phase
of our career. But nobody knew it was him.

Speaker 6 (20:35):
No one knew.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
I was like, okay, I don't know it was this guy,
So okay. So they it kept going and no one
knew what they looked like till they finally took there
the makeup off in the mid eighties. And that was
a big deal when they came out and they were
still doing great music and I mean ace freely, I
mean this, this band was the way rock and roll
is now. There's so many things you can say were
birthed because of Kiss. All right, people are just seeing

(20:56):
Kiss now, going to see fall guy. I was made
for loving you as used in their right. The big
the big hard rock metal band Ghost now most popular
band in that genre. They all wear masks. We're joking
about role models. Yeah, I mean yeah, oh this spaceman Ah,
you know kiss my Anthea. I mean the the impact
Kisses had on the world of music in general, it

(21:17):
can't even be quantified with where it is right with
performance and music and and and being able to capture
that mystery. And Ace Freely is the guitar, you know,
at the head of all of this, you know him
and Paul Stanley, Gean Simmons, Peter Chris, Like, these guys
are all incredible icons. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
I mean you go back and the one thing I
always appreciated and loved and you've you've mocked me for
a decade plus of like, all right, how do you
make money off it? Like, how do you how do
you promote? Nobody were better self promoters than these guys, right,
they put their label on frigging everything you get for
a while. You can go to Costco and buy a
casket not to be you know, uh an A dour As.

(21:54):
We're talking about the passing of one of their members.
But legitimately between the movies, I mean, there's and my
daughter the one movie that she's bought for streaming that
she watches every couple of weeks is kiss hanging out
with Scooby Doo. Now that doesn't make a lot of
sense to a couple of those songs, probably not belong
but hey, Scooby Doo jump past Hey, it's first seven

(22:16):
and eight year olds, long long ago. So here you
have it, and that one has done very well. One
of my favorite quotes, and just kind of going through
some of the articles, there was a clip with Tom
Snyder that was really making the rounds. That was kind
of funny, but it was there. It came from a
magazine from two thousand and nine. I'm an anmaly, I'm

(22:39):
an unschooled musician. I don't know how to read music,
but I'm one of the most famous guitar players in
the world. So go figure a nice life lesson, right,
if we want to take something from all of this,
because you know, Simmons has talked about it for decades
of you know, we're not the most technically sound of bands,
but people enjoy We rock in front of hundreds of

(23:03):
thousands of people when you do some of those festivals.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
But for Ace freely, yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
Just a long career, always beloved, I mean, the outpouring
of emotion across the rock world, even when it was
still in the balance and hadn't been confirmed, Like everybody
started telling these tales going all the way back forty
fifty years Geddy Lee, right, he and Life Center getting
ready to go on a tour together long after what

(23:28):
a decade after Neil Peart passed away. Like one of
the first things he said is like they gave us
a start. It was a picture from nineteen seventy four
of them hanging out and talking about you know, backstage
and playing cards and just being stupid as a kid,
but being welcomed into rock and roll by these guys.
And that's one of their biggest pieces of their legacy,

(23:49):
was how they opened the door for a lot of
other bands.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
Yeah, it's just I mean, really, you see this today,
I like, wow, it's a huge era of iconic music
and personal and you just think about their impact and
it's it's it mushrooms. It kind of crushes, like, Wow,
this is the impact this band has had.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
But that Tom Snyder clip I reference, I'll retweet it
out at Swollendum was funny because the rest of the
band's pissed.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
Like he asked the question about.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
Their look and how they got you know who decided
on the costumes whatever, and Ace Freeley just starts talking
and the camera pans back and you see the rest
of the band kind of looking like the.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
Hell are you the game? You're now the spokesman, Clay,
that's fun. I'm only the lead singer. Come on, Just
like normally, I guess he would he would sit back
and Jean and Paul would do all the time, and
he's like, Nope, this one's fine. Oh rest in peace,
space Man Fly Brave. Meanwhile, happening right now, we got
the Bengals on top of the Steelers twenty to seventeen

(24:47):
late in the third quarter of more in that game
coming up in a few minutes. But it's all sunshine,
lollipops and rainbows of the Dodgers right now. Look, they're
they're a hot knife through butter through the Brewers. And
like I said, the brewer, you just throw your Okay,
what are you gonna do? We shrug, right, We're just
the Dodgers are just throwing bebies at us.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
They're standing out with like their cleats, begging you for money.
We need another pitcher.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
However, I do have it going on to the World
Series right, I do have one concern because of the
team the Dodgers remind me of, right now, Okay, and look,
we talk a lot about when you play so well
in one series, you get a bounce into the next series. Right,
And the Dodgers are throwing the ball unlike any team

(25:32):
we've seen in the last fifteen years of Major League
Baseball as a team, right, whether it's Snell or Yamamoto
or Glass now tonight, even though relievers are good, right,
that's how good it. Even the relievers who stink are
all good. Right, that's how big. So I see the
Dodgers getting a bit of a bounce pitching wise in
the next round of the playoffs. Right. We also talked

(25:54):
about defense being a thing for the Dodgers, right, Hey,
you gotta make sure, but clearly this round it's not.
And Frostbur is gonna hate me for saying this. He
care you have a chance to not do it then,
But no, But I got, I got you have. I
gotta be me.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
I gotta say that the Dodgers. You want to sing
that out loud, I gotta.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
Be Remember this is gonna come back to bite you,
and that your mi the Dodgers. The Dodgers right now
remind to remind me a lot of the twenty fifteen
Mets who did the same exact thing to the Cubs
in the NLCS. Harvey cinder Guard matts to Gram and

(26:31):
they get to the World's end, it's like, well, hey,
we're gonna we're gonna crush the Royals because look at
the Look at how we threw against the Cubs in
that round of the playoffs. It was fantastic. But what
happened in the World Series. They didn't quite pitch as well,
they didn't quite play as good defense, and the Royals
won the World Series because the Royals made contact, hit
ground balls, and the Royals won the bleeping World Series.

(26:52):
That's kind of what the Dodgers remind me of here,
because they they're gonna get a bounce in the next
round pitching wise, because I can't see how you continue
to keep this up the way, not to this level.
Not they can't still pitch well, but like this, when
you're winning three to one, it's not like, hey, you're
pitching well, you're winning seven to one, eight one. No,
you're squeaking out two to one, three to one games.
So that's the one thing if I can look at

(27:13):
anything from the Dodgers, they remind me the twenty fifteen
Mets who looked like we're getting to the World Series,
and I'm like, nah, I'm ordering all my Mets World Series.
We're gonna win. And then I'm like, oh man, the
first batter of the World Series assessmentus drops a fly
ball the warning track, right, Like, that's like the kind
of series it was. That's the only thing that concerns
me about the Dodgers. Boy, I can see the defense

(27:33):
and I can see the bounce of pitching happening in
the World Series.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
I should of being able to take in extended bats
for both the Blue Jays and the Mariners. That's gonna
be a hallmark of what we see going forward. How
do you get those starters on the horse and back
out of the game?

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Right?

Speaker 3 (27:50):
Not going six to seven innings at a spot and
Glass now gave them a big effort. A guy who
much maligned over the course of the season, right for
early exits and some eccentricities, I think would.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Be the way to put it.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
But yeah, it's curious, and I think for this game,
the fact that you started and again seeing Ashby for
the third time certainly helped. But you get the triple
for sho Hao Tani right off the jump. And Mookie Betts, who,
by the way, you want to talk about your your fielding,
you want to talk about all of those things in
terms of fundamentals.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
He's a Gold Glove finalist. I'll have somehow Freddy Freeman
is not. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Freddy Freeman who should
get it just for the one play at the end
of the game that he made, you know, saving toddyem
in a really, really bad error. He needs to get
the Golden Glove just for that.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
So you know, to talk amongst yourselves won't bring that
back up as this rolls on. And good for Mookie Betts,
that's fantastic. But it's that, you know, dialed up and
right now once again the Dodgers pulling all the proper strings,
just as they did a year ago.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
Does it always make sense? Hell no, But here we
are exit ou about a fresco x had swollen down
the Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmen.
Time how to find out what's trending in the wide
world of sports from someone who came in tonight wearing
kiss makeup. It's Monty Belanos.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
You know.

Speaker 6 (29:10):
I should have is what I should have done that
I would have loved to.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
You could you could have done the Cat like Peter Cris.
You could have done the Spaceman like Las could have
had the Star. I think for the Star, I think
I would have gone with the Star. Okay, all right,
bet Y, Yeah, okay. Star was always a cool one.
It was. It was.

Speaker 4 (29:28):
I mean, they're all, they're all awesome, but I think
I would have gone.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
With the Star and the ones I was. I was
never scared of Peter Chris because he was like a cat,
and I was like, oh, it's a kid, It's okay.
Paul Stanley was okay with the Star. PCE Freely was fine.
Jean Simmons was Simmons, Stanley was free. I mean there's
a lot going on there.

Speaker 4 (29:50):
There's a lot going on, and there's a lot going
on in Cincinnati between the Bengals and the Steelers.

Speaker 6 (29:55):
Here here, guys, to kick off Week seven of the NFL.

Speaker 4 (29:58):
Joe Flacco has thrown for two hundred thirty two yards
in two touchdowns. Bengals are up right now, twenty to seventeen.
They're about to start the fourth quarter. Also, Bengals are
knocking on the door. It's third and goal. They're on
Pittsburgh five yard line, so they may extend their lead.

Speaker 6 (30:11):
Right now.

Speaker 4 (30:11):
Aaron Rodgers has strown for one hundred and forty two
yards two touchdowns. He also has two interceptions so far
in this one. Let's move on to the other old
man playing tonight, Max Scherzer. They officially have taken.

Speaker 6 (30:23):
Him off the mound. He pitched five and two thirds innings.

Speaker 4 (30:26):
He gave him five hits or three hits, excuse me,
one earned run, four walks, five strikeouts. They try to
take him out halfway through like the fifth inning, and
he said no, and he stood his ground and he
got out of it, and they even sent him out
for the sixth inning.

Speaker 6 (30:39):
But it seems like they just took him out.

Speaker 4 (30:41):
Blue Jays are up though, five to one against the
Mariners in this game four of the ALCS, where Seattle
leads the series two to one. As you guys were
just talking about, the Dodgers defeated the Brewers three one.
They are now one went away from advancing to the
World Series. Jackson Cherio, by the way, who did leave
the game in the middle of of an app bad
because of a right leg injury. He already said that

(31:02):
he's going to play in Game four. He just had
a cramp, so that's why he took himself out. But
other than that, Dodgers one went away from the World Series,
and then on the ice, Bruins and Golden Knights tied
at one apiece late in the first period. Hurricanes over
the Ducks one zero, also late in the first just
like the Penguins and the Kings with Kings up to zero.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
Back to you guys, thanks a bunch of mon Yes,
Jason Smith, Mike Carmon Lot from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Uh,
you are seeing right now exactly why Mike Tomlin did
not like the Joe Flacco trade. Why is he ripping Joe?
Why is he ripping the Browns trading John don't know
why you trade Joe Flacco. Yeah, you're seeing why right now,
because he has helped birth a spark in the Bengals offense. Again,

(31:44):
He's over two hundred yards passing a couple of touchdowns.
We said it when it happened. I said, this is
a good fit. Flacco's a good fit for what the
Bengals like to do. He's going to get the ball
to their playmakers. It's gonna make Jamar Chase is gonna
really benefit from having this change in quarterback. And so
far Jamar Chase twelve hundred and ten yards in a touchdown.
It's even Chase Brown is having a good game, Chase Brown.

(32:05):
Mike Harmon is having a.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
Couple of big runs, chunky yardage. T Higgins found the
end zone as well. Flacco in his career at eleven
and eleven against the Steelers, twenty seven touchdowns against twelve
picks and averaging about two hundred and twenty nine passing
yards per game.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
Exit outbout a Fresca Exit Swallen Dome. The Jason Smith
Show with My best friend Mike Carmon Coming up next. Hey,
who's going to replace James Franklin at Penn State?

Speaker 2 (32:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (32:34):
Take a big candidate off the board after a huge
story today. That's next right here, Jason and Mike Fox
Sports Radio. Be sure to catch live editions of The
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many happy people right now. I am happy because I
said last night, as the game goes on, the offenses

(33:19):
are gonna start opening up. It's gonna get oiled as
the time goes on. And here we are. The over
has officially hit forty three and a half. These Steelers
in the end zone. Aaron Rodgers throws a touchdown, a
big drive by Jalen Warren, getting them down close. He
throws a touchdown pass to cut the Bengals lead to
twenty seven to twenty four, still eleven minutes to go

(33:41):
in the fourth quarter. And and you know still now,
Mike Tomlin can sit back and just go I can't
believe they traded this guy to the Bengals. And I
gotta watch Joe Flatto throw for three hundred yards against us,
because you know that's what's happening.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
Well, he's a half yard from his over under from
the yardage through thirty seven yep chase already over one hundred,
but fantastic drive there. Jalen Warren's been great fourteen carries,
one hundred and twenty one yard. Didn't see that coming
to that level of success. Also thirty one yards receiving
on four receptions, but quick strike, no Hendrickson, So no

(34:16):
pass rush means a lot of dancing for Aaron Rodgers
in the ability to break things down. He had at
least three pass attempts in the first half. We had
more than eight seconds to throw the ball, eight seconds
when normally he's the guy that has to get it
out of two and a half seconds. Ye, so plenty
of opportunity there. Meanwhile, Vladimir Guerrero Junior homeward for the
Blue Jays too to extend there. It's his fifth home

(34:38):
run in the playoffs this year. How about that person
dressed like a wizard in the front row. Terrible effort
to get that ball.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
And the guy that came to the game dressed like
a wizard didn't have his glove turned the right way,
didn't catch the home run ball. But I will say this,
if you come to a game dressed as a wizard,
do you really expect him to have great glove work.
If it's not Ozzie Smith, that's a fair so care boy.
Ozzie Smith was the Wizard, but he always dressed like
a baseball player. If you dress like a wizard out
of baseball game, I'm not expecting you to have great

(35:07):
flashing of the leather skill.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
I think I might be able to find a clip
of him with Tommy Lasorda as part of the Baseball
Bunch where he was actually dressed like wizard. No, not that, Oh, okay, okay,
now I want to start blowing the harmonica.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
I know it's kiss night, but I mean we could
go back to good Uh so we'll have more from
both games coming up in about ten minutes. But look,
a huge story out of college football today, which should
be good news, not just for the guy who is
getting this contract extension. How happy were you? It's good news? Yes,
I was happy. It's good news for everybody that has

(35:43):
a stake and enjoys watching their college teams succeed. Regardless
as to whether or not you are at the top
of the food chain, close to the top of the
food chain, middle of the food chain, bottom of the
food chain, Kurtzignetti, who was the number one overwhelming choice
to take over for James Franklin at Penn State. Right,

(36:04):
what he's done is with Indiana the last couple of
years had him in the playoff last year. Honestly, they're
probably better this year than they were last year. Undefeated
going into this weekend against Michigan State. He was a guy, right,
of course, you gotta go to Penn State, signs an
eight year, ninety three million dollar contract extension to stay
at Indiana. Now he has said all along, I'm here,

(36:24):
this is where I want to be. I came here
for a reason all this time, right, So yeah, and
saying all the right things, Well you said, but now obviously, hey,
taking advantage of this situation. Hey, guess what, guys, this
is when you got to get paid, right, You got
to take advantage strike when the iron's hot. Right. But
here's the best news for everybody is that in this
nil era Power five conferences doesn't matter if you're in

(36:49):
the middle, if you're at the top, if you're at
the bottom, you can loosen up per strings and you
are able to stay competitive or become e been more
competitive as long as you can get the big alumni,
the big NIL conglomerates to loosen up the purse strings
and be okay with paying money, and they will do

(37:09):
it as long as they like the head coach. Right,
as long as it doesn't whether college basketball, college football,
you will be able to if you go to a
big power five school, Granted you have big graduates somewhere,
big alumni, you have a lot of money that can
give money because they want to see the football program
or the basketball program succeed. You can do it, but
they have to like what's going on, and they have

(37:30):
to like the coach because if they don't like the coach,
it's not going to happen. But you look at these
teams the last couple of years, these middle of the
pack teams that have risen up in stature, whether it's
Indiana now and now Indiana's got their guy because they
have money. They have a lot of famous gro I'm
sure Steve Alford gave a lot of money to keep
signetti there. Right. You look at we talk about Syracuse
and Duke in the ACC that figured out the nil

(37:52):
market and how to get big players come. And people
are transferring from Notre Dame and Alabama and Texas and
going to these places. And now z is probably gonna
get mentioned to be the Penn State head coach because
he was there as a d C and he is
doing really good things at Duke Former Sports Center, PA
meny Ds. But now, you know, as long as as
long as you you have a coach everybody likes, you

(38:13):
can compete with everybody else, right, And that's why all
the top schools hate it. That's why Alabama hates nil.
In Michigan and Ohio said, they all hate it because
they all have to pay a lot more money for
their guys. And also they know that other teams are
gonna get really good players because just because we're Michigan,
they're Indiana doesn't mean Indiana doesn't have people that can
give money to put them on an equal playing field.

(38:35):
That's why the top schools hate nil and the middle
schools now, hey, we can do this and do it legally.
This is what the best part is about college football
now is a guy like Kurtzignetti can stay at Indiana
and get ninety three million dollar. Yeah, it's funny.

Speaker 3 (38:48):
We went through the odds for the Benn State coaching
job yesterday. He wasn't one of the leaders. He was
kind of and also ran because it was believed in
a large way that he probably would stay in Indiana
at least a little while long and see smarter. So
Matt Rule, I think it pushed his percentages up over
the course of the day. Your guy from fran Brown,
I'm sure to come on, man, don't take fran Brown.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
Take manny Ds. He's great. I work with them an ESPN.
I'll write a letter recommendation for him. Don't take fran Brown.
But it becomes part of that equation.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
Right, you talked about legally paying and certainly there's plenty
of athletic departments, coaching staffs, et cetera that you know,
like the old way when it was, if you're willing
to go out there and risk possible exposure of such
that the reward was great with some risk. But again

(39:39):
the toothless NCAA certainly helps you there. But when you
look at the landscape, now, if your team wants to
get be involved, you can activate you decide. Right, you
look at Syracuse, you look at the Northwestern teams that
should have had a first mover advantages based on their
alumni base and where now you just need to make
sure you're coach wants to play the game right. You

(40:01):
always had to do it in the recruiting game anyway,
but it's now that on steroids like it is on
a whole other level of all right, what's the level
of administration and going through that process? And the teams
and organizations that have decided to really lean into that
they're the winners in this process. But players want to
play right.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
So a guy getting six million will go somewhere else
instead of maybe, all right, we're gonna stash you a
bit for a little bit more money because y'all got
no proof of concept. If I have to do that exit,
how about a Fresco at Swollen Dome. Jason Smith Mike
Harmon Live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Coming up next,
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(40:45):
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putting this content out for you every single night. Well,
we are a minute away from getting a very salty
Mike Tomlin as the Bengals are about to kick a

(41:30):
game winning field goal. There's fifty three seconds left to
go in the game. The Bengals have called their second
time out with the play clock ticking down to zero,
and I don't think that Zach Taylor wanted to lose
any more yards. The Bengals look like they're going to
beat the Steelers, which means Mike Tomlin's postgame pres corr
is gonna be awesome and I'm gonna get to say

(41:52):
I told you the Steelers stake Joe Flacco is now
at three forty two and three touchdown. They trail this
game thirty one to thirty. However, they will be trying
a thirty two yard field goal from the middle of
the field to win this game as well. More than that,
actually a little bit more, because Flaco just went back

(42:14):
like four yards the extra second or two and created
potential chaos. It is he's gonna be about a thirty
five thirty seven yard field goal for Evan McPherson to
win this game. The reason it's set up this way
is Flacco hits t Higgins on a big pass that
Higgins goes for twenty nine yards, has an open path
to the end zone, but he slides down at the

(42:35):
five yard line. This allowed the Bengals to make the
Steelers use their last couple of timeouts. Cincinnati's gonna take
it all the way down until they don't need to
anymore to potentially kick the game winning field goal here
to win this game thirty three to thirty one. Again,
the only chance the Steelers have really is to block
this kick, but it's an inside forty yard field goal

(42:56):
by McPherson, and Joe Flacco looks like he's gonna walk
away in Icy Bowl, Icy hot Bowl. Victor the gray
in his beard underneath the chin, smiling on the sideline
did his job thirty one to forty seven, three, forty
two and three. Jamar Chase sixteen catches for one sixty one,
and I'm sorry for t Higgins fantasy owners that played

(43:18):
him tonight. You could have gotten that extra five yards,
maybe you got one hundred yard bonus, but you didn't
get it. Here, you still got twenty points from Ti Higgins.
I think you still thought you might go and it
might have got a back plus another six.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
Man.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
Yeah, no, no, I know, but he's just say it's a
walking point night. Yeah, walked fifteen. But walking out of
that Thursday with that kind of performance, you would have
emulated Aaron Glenn. Okay, you would have done the Aaron
Glenn dance with that kinde of performance. O. Man, So
there is gonna be a little bit of time left
for the Steelers to run some kind of crazy play.
McPherson's field goal was up and good. It is a

(43:53):
thirty three, thirty one lead, seven seconds left to go.
Joe Burrow is applauding on the sideline. He had a
grin for me. One real problem though, Joe Fla was
so incredibly tired what he got Frostburg. It's the real
big problem.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
Aaron Rodgers is their quarterback. Yes, you know, well he's
not getting more last year. Yeah, no, I know, I know,
but but it's still It's been a big, icy hot
ball night for both of these guys, right, Like it's
a big not being over forty, this is gonna be
a big night, right, Anybody over forty is gonna say
I love this game. Rogers is really good and and
oh Flacco was really good. Okay, Yeah, two guys the

(44:29):
Jets had and couldn't make better. You know, that's what
makes this just a little bit depressing for me, just
a little bit. The ex Jet now good thing continues
like it's half the league right now. Look, Flacco and
and Rogers are proving that no matter who you are,
when you get to the Jets, things will get bad,
and when you leave things will get good again. You're

(44:51):
good Jets, bad, leave Jets, things are good. Right. Whether
whether you're either of these guys, or Darnold or Geno
Smith or Todd Bowles doesn't matter. Man, Hey, I was good,
then I got to the Jets, it was bad, and
then I'm good again. Everything else Aaron Rodgers done, his
entire career has been good. Got to the Jets was terrible, right.

(45:11):
Joe Flacco, Okay, he was bad in Denver for that
half the season, but everywhere else, Hey, Flacco's been good
except with the Jets, right, I mean, I feel like
this is it's the ex Jet now good has just
absolutely taken over. And I got to sit here and
watch every quarterback and head coach whoever was the Jets
have had over the course of the past ten years.
When they get there, they're terrible. When they get someplace else,

(45:33):
they're actually good.

Speaker 3 (45:34):
Combined age of what is it eighty two on display
here tonight, and they gave us sixty four points.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
This has been a thriller. I mean, the big hit
to Friarmouth for the sixty eight yard touchdown that gave
them the short term lead, but the old you scored
too fast with Joe Flacco on that other sideline, me
tell you right? Yeah, so again, still seven seconds left,
the kickoff went into the end zone. So the Bengals

(46:02):
are okay with letting them play one last Hail Mary.
Now we've seen Aaron Rodgers throw big Hail Mary's before,
but can he throw it all the way from his
own thirty five in his forties. I don't know if
he can quite do that. Make it up be fun
to saving and crake it up but instead it looks
like the Steelers are going to try a little bit. Hey,
let's get something a little bit closer. They throw an

(46:22):
out to Friar Mooth for five yards that gets him
the forty five yard line, or for ten yards the
forty five yard line, so three seconds left now, making
a little bit easier for Aaron Rodgers potentially to throw
a hail Mary.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
See what we have in that Chuck five catches, one
hundred and eleven yards, two touchdowns for Friar Mouth to
lead the way.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
All of a sudden, right, all the guys said last night, Yeah,
you can't play a lot of these guys fantasy wise.
All of a sudden, it's a fantasy bonanza.

Speaker 3 (46:46):
But it becomes the all right, because it's the Bengals
and what their defense has been, you could say, sure,
we put them in. But it's also with the risk
of it's a Thursday night game, it is a divisional game.
All of those things come to bear. Rogers does have
the arm to get it there. However it gets knocked
down by the Bengals. He moved through, tumbled that he

(47:08):
got it all the way there.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
He got except I think his receivers were a little
bit too deep in the end zone, got it from
about his own thirty five yard line all the way
to the to the goal line where it gets batted down.
Bengals win at thirty three thirty one. The Steelers fall
to four and two. The Bengals are three and four.
Flacco and Rogers at midfield congratulates that.

Speaker 3 (47:28):
Might be the best shot of the year ago as
they walked up to each other, just that because he's
got the sour puss.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
And then he sees flaccoh and he just kind of
starts smiling. He gets like that grinch smile that goes
all the way up to all the all the people
tomorrow that are gonna wear the old guy's rule sweatshirts
and T shirts and hats, old guy's rule hats. That's
gonna be sixty four points for the old guys. Let's go.
You had you had, you had one guy go for
you know, two forty nine and four touchdowns and one

(47:56):
guy go for three forty two and three touchdowns. He
got it to the end zone. He did, He did it.
Looked again, it looked like the Steelers their receivers were
a little bit too deep. Nobody was was right at
the goal line, Bengals go up and knock it down
and they wind up winning this game. And the thing is,
I told you the Steelers stink. I told you they did.

(48:17):
I toldt the Bengals to win out right. So I
told you they stink, and they do. They stink, and
they do. I don't do they stink. They stinking? They do.
But I thought they would pull it out. I'm okay,
I'm okay, they don't stink. I'm okay. Steelers stink the bang.
Come on, man, Steelers, I told you they weren't good.
And the Bengals came in at two and four. Yeah,
with a rejuvenated Joe Flacko. I mean, look at them

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so uh the way resplendent. The White Tiger got it done.
TNF is in the boat. Well yeah, the uniforms of
come on that helmets, Yeah, the White Tiger some sparkles
to that. You got you got gold, Jerry. When I
see the Bengals in those uniforms, I just think of
the big scenes from Uh uh Uh Empire Strikes Back
where they're on Hoff and everybody's wearing like the uh

(49:05):
the rebels and the stormtroopers are all wearing the big
the camouflage, white uniforms and stuff that. It's like, oh,
that's pretty cool, man, they're gonna have blasting. But dude,
too too, too too, I kind of like that. H Meanwhile,
it is also over in Seattle, speaking of old guys,
Max Schurzer. One know in the playoffs is the Blue
Jays beat the Marriage Who's eight to two. We'll have

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more in this game coming up in a couple of minutes.
But now joining us on the hot line again, it's
a big night for guys over forty you me and
Mike Harmony. I mean, Jay Lazer's only twenty nine. True,
he's enjoying the old guy night for Joe Flacco and
Aaron Rodgers. What's happening, Jay?

Speaker 2 (49:43):
Unbelievable. I do love it.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
I do love it.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
But you know what it also shows you man, you
know intelligence at that position. Those guys to play forever
and ever and ever. Flacco unreal, man. He gives all
of Scots some jersey. We're kind of you know, I'm
always cheater on in shape, out of shape, all this
stuff he gives us all.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
You know what, when they got im.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
Was in shape. Sometimes the shape is a pairty.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
It doesn't matter what the shape is. Jay, You're in shape,
it doesn't matter. Now, look for Joe Flakka, Like when
they made this trade, I thought, this is the system
that works for him, and he was gonna unlock Jamar
Chase because as we've seen in the NFL, there's a
system for everybody. But wow, I didn't think it was
gonna work this fast for the Bengals with Flacco showing up.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
You know. I talked to Zach Tayler about it last
week and he was like, I was so surprised that
how much he knew of our terminology. But Alex van Pelt,
who was think the quarterback coach or we live in Cleveland,
was with Zach at some point also, so it was
the same terminology. So that helped him out quite a bit.
But he was like, still, even when you're coming out
the place, I was just shocked. He's like, man, it

(50:46):
was like he's been here for a while. So he
was able to just regurgitate. And I said, you can't
go full with him, can you. He's like not to,
But the only thing we can't do is really just
get too fancy with motions and you know, different packages.
That's just this week he's picked go up like the forwards.
Just next week we're going to go. But the one
thing that they really did emphasize is like, man, these

(51:07):
receivers are so happy, they're so excited because he has
that timing. He's able to do things. He's able to
throw it exactly where they want it. You know, he
could reach him deep and yeah, man, like hey, don't
don't ever can out an old fighter.

Speaker 3 (51:24):
But the thing that stood out to me watching this
one Jay is coming in and the tail of the
tape was would that offensive line be able to keep
him up right?

Speaker 1 (51:31):
And they get them clean all night?

Speaker 2 (51:33):
They did. But you know what he does also though,
as oppose to you know what Brodnan was doing. He
just gets rid of the ball fest. Yeah, get rid
of the ball fest. That's it, and that's the thing
what you want to do. You know. A couple of
weeks ago I talked to Kyle Shanahan about you know
what he's done with like mac Jones. What he did
was Sam Donald, what guys like Kevin O'Connell dumb with
Daniel Jones, Sam Donald? You know selman Jay does with

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Baker Michel to a point, and he's like the key
is you got to just give those guys a confidence back.
And the way you do that is just, man, just
play fearless. Like you got to let them play fearless,
and that's fast. If they hold on the ball, they
try and think too much, man, you're going to get
into confidence shields. So just play fearless. If it's like,
if you play fearless, then would God bless them with

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the ability to shine in this league in the first
place comes back out. Don't matter what who you are,
how old, a or whatever it is. If you could
just play fearless, that ability comes back out and you
have the ability to get this league in the first place.
But that's the thing, Like, you know, the quarterback position
is so intricative. The quarterback position is obviously by your arm,

(52:37):
but it's probably more about those six inches between your
ears than anything else. And that's that's the flack. I
think He's just like, I got nothing to lose here.
I got probably the best receiver cannem in the NFL.
Let's go, And it's timing with them. That's the thing
that was I've been more amazing than anything else. He's
timing with those guys. And from the out route from

(52:57):
the hit, like some crossing patterns. That to me was
what was like he had timing with those guys as
if he's been with them for pre training camps.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
Jake Glazer whe us here, Jason Smith, Mike Harmon Fox
Sports Radio. Now, I know you know Mike Tomlin pretty well,
and clearly we see now why Mike Tomlin was so
upset about the Browns trade. I'm so fleck go to
the Bengals. I mean doubt when we said, wow, okay, right,
he's right, yeah, no, he is absolutely, it.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
Is right, And people were like, it's so refreshing to
hear Michael Tomlin talking. Fuck is mind. He always talks
to his mind, like what are you talking about? He's
gonna hold back, but no, he's right though, Like you
don't want to help people within your division ever, Like
you don't want to do it in a position like that.
You know that that was I'm sure that the Browns

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looked like, okay, well we're done with Flea. Let's go
see if we can get something for him. And I
was here, Micro's pissed off. He's like, no, why are
you helping people inside? You don't do that. You don't
do inside of trading in this division. But yeah, you
see why he was so upset. You know, it'll be
interesting see what happen to join the buy. I just
I still think in the end, I think the Steeler
is gonna be a team you're not gonna want to

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face later on. You know, they're gonna be a team.
You know they're finally getting a little bit healthy there,
but they get Aaron. Being healthy at this point is
big for them. Defensively, you know, they kind of struggled
coming out of the gates. Then the pass rus been
great the last few weeks and struggled again tonight, and
I think they have enough forces we'll get it right.

(54:26):
I think I can see Mike kind of diving in
a little bit more on that side. But I think
the Steeler is still gonna be more than five. Listen,
anytime you have division games within that the n Worth,
you never know what's gonna happen. So you can't kind
of look at how season is going to go just
based on these games. Because those guys always beat up
on each other.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
Jay, we know the phone is always glowing with news
and information and rumor, conjecture, speculation floating about we've seen
some deals already, h and we see the names get
longer and longer on the rumor mill.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
Do we are we expecting fireworks here in the next
two weeks?

Speaker 2 (55:02):
Yeah, what's happened? Because actually, because of the Slackload deal
and there were two other deals last week, I had
a bunch of teams and GMS told me that there
it kind of spread the sped the process up that
normally things heat up. The week of the trade deadline
was still a couple of weeks away. Usually he's up
that week, maybe you know, a couple of days earlier

(55:25):
than that, But it definitely started heating up this past
week where a lot of teams are calling around because
those three deals were just done way sooner than than
they normally are.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
You can fall on Twitter at Jay Glazer, that is
at Jay Glazer. Jay as always, Buddy, appreciate the night. Hey,
everyone's been wearing old guys Rule shirts tomorrow, so I
think it'll be a great night for everybody.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
Listen, Man, I still think I'm like twenty four, so
that's how.

Speaker 1 (55:50):
I ad I still dressed that way.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
Yeah, baby, I'm never gonna lose it.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
Good man, Jay'd be good buddy, we'll talk to you
all right in the mass. Be good, Jay,