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Speaker 1 (00:30):
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the NBA is back on NBC, and yes, I admit
I went from Oh, it's gonna be exciting to hear
round Ball Rock and now I'm like, okay, I've had

(01:12):
enough with all of you in the round Ball Rock,
and suddenly it's gonna be like the skies have opened
up and people are dropping free money. I got I
got to that point pretty fast. Hey, this is fun too, Okay,
I'm done.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
Yes, round Ball Rock, it's gonna be all right, all right,
all right, all right, alright, yes, it's gonna be awesome.
And guy, okay, okay, we're gonna get it's going. Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
It's not gonna solve everybody's problem. This is not suddenly
gonna turn the Jets into being seven. And oh you're
gonna hear round Ball Rock, and if you're of a
certain age, you're gonna love it.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
That's what made you happy for a minute, until it
was the forty eighth time in your scroll that suddenly
it appeared. We're good.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Hey, we're going to the finals this year. Man, just
watch out. This is our year, just.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Like last year and the year before that.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Okay, we would have gone two years ago, but everybody
got hurt. We should have gone last yob but I
can't talk. I still can't talk about that. But this
is the year.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
This is The.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Knicks have not think about this, right, The have not
been this favorite to get to the finals since the nineties.
So it kind of makes sense that here's the NBA
back on NBC, Round Ball Rock.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
And Michael Jordan retiring again.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
Hosting the Charlotte Hornets Game two the best of seven series.
The next took the first one one oh four ninety five,
Greg Anthony nineteen points and ten assists, Ken Muggsy Bogues
and the Hornets steal Game two and get home court
a vantage back Game two up next on NBC. Don't yes,

(02:33):
don't we get Well, I could do it for a fee,
but don't we get like AI Marv Albert. I mean
we don't need to because Marv could do it himself.
And I was gonna say we get like AI Marv Albert.
Well he's retired though, so I me, you don't want
to bug him and say, hey, Marv, can you do
some liners?

Speaker 3 (02:45):
Can talk? I mean, I mean he can talk, he
can do liners.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
I'm okay with I mean, really, I'm okay with AI
Marv Albert doing all the matchups here.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
I mean he did a lot of games. I mean,
you can Ai the hell out of the entire English language,
can't you?

Speaker 1 (02:59):
At this point, is Chet and KD the NBA on NBC.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
Right now filtering some Snapper Jones Bill Walton bizarre. I mean,
they got lots of guys you could go.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
When Bill Walt would say no, no, no Snapper that
no snapper that is not correct. Snapper that are reaching
over each other to like slap each other. U three
zho seven to go in the fourth are actually two
minutes ago. In the fourth quarter, one oh one, one hundred.
The Rockets have taken the lead over the defending champs.
It's a big night for oppin Shangoon. He's got twenty eight,

(03:35):
seven assists and seven rebounds. Meanwhile for Oklahoma City. Uh,
not a great night three point shooting wise. Uh, they
are one for seventy five. They're actually they're eight for
thirty eight.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
Not a great night. Guy having a rough night tonight.
In the opener, Man.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Chet is leading the way with twenty SGA with nineteen.
It is a one point game again with a couple
of minutes left to go. Again the first game back
on NBC, we got the Lakers in the in the
Warriors coming up. Second game tonight of the NBA Opening
Night doubleheader. I got a Northwestern guy that cracked the rotation.
Oh look at that, Evan Eschemeier Barnheiser. Oh okay, all right,

(04:10):
always gonna say, I know, I'm always gonna say I've
been retired for thirty years out of the game as
long as Michael Jordan.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
He was in the game in the nineties.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Right now, here's the thing about this, right, this is
a big to hear. Here we are opening night for
the NBA was celebrating its return. I feel like we
just had the finals, but it was only four months ago. Uh,
you know, and I get literally four months, I get
where I where I feel like I am sort of
okay the Round Ball Rock, I understand everything because the
NBA and NBC.

Speaker 4 (04:38):
You know.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
Again, in case you didn't know they're back. They did
a little bit today a precursor teaser for the game,
where they asked a bunch of current stars what they
felt when they hear Round Ball Rock and the NBA
being on NBC. They talked to SGA and chet Holmgren
and Wemby is on here and Jalen Brunson's on here.
Here's a sample the answers you're getting from the stars. Hey,

(05:03):
what do you think of when you get this wave
of NBA nineteen nineties nostalgia? This is what it was. Alright,
let's hear.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
When I say the NBA on NBC, what memories come
to mind? I have no land zero nineteen nineties. Oh
I need a.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
Memory from there.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
I have no idea.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
I wasn't old enough.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
I wasn't alive. Man, you're joking, right.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
So that was wemby Wit that you're joking. It was
Jalen Brunson saying, yeah, I wasn't old enough, And it
was Sga the first one to say nineteen nineties, like
you almost said World War One. Mean, you're talking about
Franz Franz Ferdinand, the Archduke getting assassinated. You want me
to tell Bob we wanted to have that in history. Oh,
we're talking about is Dan Bullen Constantinople? Is Dan Bullen Constantinople?

(05:59):
Was it is Dan Bullet Constantinople? Like that's kind of
what we're asking the nineties? The way he say he
looked at the cameraon goes the nineties wide eye. Okay, Hey,
you know, hey, the last great decade was the nineties, right,
the last decade, and we I think we peaked as
a as a population in the globe in the nineteen nineties.
Everything was still. People were making money and everybody bought houses,

(06:19):
and Michael Jordan was winning championships and the Cowboys were
winning and where else.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
Did you want to go? Had sports where sports were fantastic.
The Yankees were winning.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
Oh, it is everything we want, and then and then everything.
You know, the last twenty five years has been a
little bit more of a rougher go.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
Well, there's a lot of stuff. I mean, parody has
come into play quite a bit. I'll use that as
the word to describe life in general. Parody.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
You win some sometimes you don't. Last game, some times
you win, sometimes you don't win. Ok that's right.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
Last game on NBC where the two thousand and two
NBA Finals Lakers and Nets, June twelfth, two thousand and two.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
Let me guess that was a that was a late
It was a Laker win. Jason Kidd with a ten
point tennis is ten rebound triple double, but Shaq went
for like thirty five and nineteen and the Lakers won.
I would assume that because I was pretty sure that
was a sweep. I'm pretty sure they swept the Nets
that year.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
Yeah, it's fun.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Maybe the Nets got a game, but I'm pretty sure
the Lakers swept that series.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
That was it.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
Okay, uh yeah, last game until now twenty three years later,
and now I feel old, right, because you know, the
NBA no, no, no Rogers Man, Hey Aaron Lebron may
Or may not play this year. Hey, Aaron, can we
ask you how do you feel about the NBA going
back to NBC?

Speaker 3 (07:36):
What what you're over forty?

Speaker 1 (07:37):
We need you to say something because there's a lot
of people over forty who are really upset about this,
Like because you see this and when the NBA is
returning back and NBC's got it, everybody, you know, but
you gotta be of a certain age, and when this
first came back, it's.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
Like, everybody's gonna be so excited.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
All the old video you're gonna get to see and
all the music, and maybe Marv Albert will voice some
stuff over and in the end he reales. You see,
all the eight players from today are going, yeah, God,
I don't know what you're talking about.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
Man, nineties.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
None of these guys have any memories of anything that's
not twenty ten or later.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
But that's the big The bigger thing, though, is the
and whether whether it's a bit or not. There's always
been the the question of how much of the history
of this game, the legacy of this game, the players
really know and care about. Yeah, no, no, but it's
layers like they know they know Lebron and that's just
still being shack. But I don't think they go back

(08:33):
to the night. But that's the question. That's just a
bunch of guys on the whole video term of memory
versus when I say the NBA on NBC, what does
it mean? Right, because that becomes a all right, did
you know it was on NBC? I guess would be
the question. But certainly you I have to believe you've

(08:54):
seen a ton of the video of the guys that
were the stars, So you would have invoked one of
those games or championships or battles, just based on your
knowledge of the game. Yeah, regardless of your age. Yeah,
but I think no, No, but I think they know.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
Look, every kid grows up, every kid who plays sports
for the most who grows up for the most part,
grows up loving the sport, seeing it on television and
you find your favorite players and you fall in love
with the game. Right, some people I understand they don't
because I'm wasn't a fan. I had a great aptitude
for it. And then you hear their story. This coach
went and saw me and said, come here, come here
and do this. But my shot up to six eight. Wait,

(09:31):
most players get that, but none of these, none of
these guys grew up watching Michael Jordan, Like this is
like you and I grow watching highlights of Bill Russell
with the Celtics, going, yeah, I was twenty five years ago.
That was Bill Russell like Jordan. For us, if you're
if you're in your mid forties or later, you remember Jordan.
It was the heyday. Remember the NBA and how great
and how great the series it was and becoming the

(09:51):
first real global superstar. The NBA had Michael Jordan, Like
it was a very special time, right. That's why I
think all of us who are a little bit older
hold it near and dear. But the whole disconnect between
the you know, the gen between gen z now it's like,
I don't know that they remember NBA finals that aren't
that didn't start in twenty fifteen. I don't know if
they remember the beginning of the Warriors run because they

(10:13):
were still, you know, twelve thirteen years.

Speaker 3 (10:15):
Seriously, do you think.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Wemby Wenby remembers the first championship Steph Curry went with
the Warriors or does his NBA stuff come later than that? Hey,
I came in the tail end of the Warriors dynasty. There, Oh,
the tail end of the dynasty. Oh that's still going on.
I mean, that's kind that's the disconnect you get between
players that are stars now because say they're twenty five, right,
So say they were born around two thousand, right, let's

(10:36):
just use as an average number. So when do you
start really remembering things? Well, okay, if you're a fan,
probably two thousand and eight, twenty ten, right, two thousand
and ten, because when you're eight ten years old, But
do you really remember that that well, or do you
remember he's really come. Hey, when I was in middle
school in high school, when I started to understand the
game and I understood what was going on and I

(10:58):
watched players, I didn't just watch the game, was just
like wow, wow, wow. Like, I think a lot of
players would have some sort of of of of scattershot
memories of the Lakers beating the Magic and the Lakers
beating the Celtics to win the title, and the Celtics
beating the Lakers the year before. Like, I think people
have some some sort of really dim memories of that,

(11:18):
but like their first memories are probably hey, you know,
Lebron getting to the finals in twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen,
and the Warriors winning for the first couple of times, Like,
that's probably where most of these guys their NBA of
players they love and play like, that's where they begin
and when they go. I want to look back at
at guys' careers, like I'm looking back at at at
Kobe and Pau Gasol from two thousand and nine. I'm

(11:40):
looking back at Tim Duncan from two thousand and eight.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
Yeah, but the accompanying clip to all of these is
when you have these these moments, right, like the profiles
of the stars from different squads, not the ones that
are in heavy rotation, but when they crack through, it's like, hey,
let's have that introductionory moment. It becomes the Yeah, I
grew up watching Blank and I'd be like, I grew
up watching Kyrie Irving. I grew up, right, guy, guys

(12:04):
of that, you know, in parallel with what you're talking about, uh,
in terms of championships, it's not uh, you know, harken
back to this player and I modeled my game after
some video I watched. It becomes you know, the more
recent and you see the dejected. Look when it's the
one on one interaction. I grew up watching you, Like, dude,

(12:24):
I'm only thirty five. Yeah, yeah, I grew up everything.
It's like, okay, that's like, uh, what was what was that?

Speaker 1 (12:31):
What's the demmur movie from last year where she was
the substance?

Speaker 5 (12:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (12:35):
All of a sudden, Okay, you're my idol growing up
and you're me and you're me when you were younger.
What do you got? Frostburg opening night? Happy opening night?
Justin Lakers? Yoh yeah, getting ready? You know who else
doesn't remember the MEBA finals? Okay who Knicks fans?

Speaker 1 (12:52):
Hey?

Speaker 3 (12:53):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (12:53):
With his version of a knocked down joke. We just
remember the finals with other teams in them. No, no, no,
but that, but that, But that's part of Nobody remembers
the nineteen ninety nine Knicks finals when they had the
lockout and the Knicks went to the finals against the Spurs.
Nobody remembers That's that's it.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
You need you need Georgian ch walkaway and go play
baseball to get to the finals. And everybody remembers that.
For oj More, the finals.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
That is ancient history. Man, you're going back into I
mean really the nineties. It's great, And that's not that
I'm I would have thought one of them would have
said OJ. Yeah, oh no. But again that you're going back,
that's thirty years. That's they watched it, the OJ the
OJ Chase for them.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
And again it's documentaries. It's not watching it live like.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
The OJ Chase for players now, right is like when
you and I growing up seeing the Kennedy assassination or
something from the late fifties, early sixties, video for video
from World War Two, when you're seeing a bunch of
things like that's kind of what you're going back and
looking at. That's that's the same time frame that you
and I had in the nineteen eighties that they're having

(13:55):
right now in twenty twenty five. I mean, no, it's tough.
For it's tougher because retro is so is so much
more in vogue now and there's so many more ways
to consume the past. Yeah, where you could, like you
had to go to like the library and check out
microfiche to look to I want to look at the
NBA Finals in nineteen sixty four when Bill Russell scored

(14:15):
thirty eight point you have to. But now it's like oh,
I can click on in a computer in seconds, right,
you can. You're you're that much closer to the past now,
which makes it easier to see. But again, for the players,
that's the whole thing, is that. Yeah, that's what it's
is for them, this is not well, I want to say,
very rare is the Kobe Bryant that can sit down
and say, let's talk about the the nineteen eighty eighty
one finals, let's talk about Magic and the Lakers, and

(14:37):
let's talk about Magic's hook shot like they know, there's
very rare people that could that could do that. And
now I just feel old because at.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
The nineties, HGAO in the nineties.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
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Speaker 3 (15:23):
So more NBA.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
But coming up next, we have to get into what
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Speaker 3 (15:34):
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here we are right now in the NBA Opening Night
Rockets and the Thunder. First time out of overtime, the
Thunder take a one oh seven, one oh four lead
over the Rockets. It was a big jumper at the
end of regulation to tie the game for SGA. He

(17:08):
now has twenty three, chet Holmgren with twenty five. Meanwhile,
Shane Goons got thirty seven and seven for the Rockets.
KD has twenty. Fun game opening Night. Uh again, I'm
a little surprised. Here here are the Rockets. No Fred
van Vliet obvious leads. He's out and it's a huge blow.
I'm I'm kind of impressed they're sticking so close here

(17:31):
opening night, They get their rings, everything is going their way,
and they nearly pulled this off in regulation.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
Well, we look at the rotation for the Rockets, a
little bit shorter, but big night, get a lot of speculation, right,
Kevin Durant signs his new deal another two years, ninety
million dollars. Talk about the coin that he's racked up
over time. But you know, Ring Knight's always a little
a little difficult because we've seen some pretty poor shooting.

(17:56):
You talked about the three point arc earlier at nine
to forty one. That'll allow you to stay into a team. Yeah,
if you're the opposition, that's true.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
Yeah, when you go nine nine for forty one, that
I feel like that was uh, anyway, there was a
Mets choke in there. So we'll keep you updated here.
One ten, one oh six, a little over three minutes
left to go on regulation opening night, and of course
coming up, we have the other marquee game of the night.
We have the Lakers and the Warriors and the debut

(18:26):
of Skinny Luca. But today NFL News. You know, as
soon as I saw Woody Johnson trending, I said, oh,
what what has happened? What has happened with the owners
meetings happening now in the NFL? Woody Johnson decided to
take today to talk to the media about how he
feels about his zero to seven Jets team Aaron Glenn

(18:47):
and more specifically justin fields. So let's deal with Aaron
Glenn first, because this is the one that really upsets me.
So look, I've told you Aaron Glenn's knockut out to
be a head coach. I'm waiting him out like I
had to wait out Adam Gase.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
It's tough because you had that two month lead up
to the season. You're very excited. I loved him, him
and Vraible running in parallel. Maybe they fight at some point,
but you know, culture builders, and you know guys that
character and long teeth with the league, and well, here we.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Are building a long road to nowhere. I mean really,
I mean when when Aaron Glenn, two weeks in a
row just won't throw a hail Mary from midfield in
the final play of the first half, just because I
want to get to halftime?

Speaker 3 (19:28):
What are you doing? Man?

Speaker 1 (19:29):
I mean really this time, I mean, I've said for
being a head coach is too much trip. Not everybody
has cut out to be a head coach. Some guys
got to be really good coordinators. Maybe after seeing how
good the Lions are without him, maybe he wasn't that
great a coordinator. But I mean, come on, man, you're
supposed to be building a culture. Supposed to be but
not only is he not building a culture because the
players are making really bad mistakes. No again, now it's

(19:51):
like I'm hearing all these big names the Jets are
gonna let go. These are all the best players. Oh yeah,
Quincy Williams could be gone, and Jermaine Johnson could be gone,
and Breece Hame. Like, Okay, I get a couple of guys,
but wow, you get rid all these guys not buying
into Aaron Glenn. Like the Jets are in an absence.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
They sink. So it becomes the how do we shed
uh salary and everything else and start over?

Speaker 1 (20:10):
Now, all I can hope for is that at the
end of the year, when the Jets are zero to
seventeen one, it's one and sixteen whatever it is, and
they're picking first, understand that it's not you know, forget
for a second that he's not up up to being
a head coach. You're gonna trust Aaron Glenn number one
pick in the draft, most likely one or two you're
getting Fernando Mendoza or Dante More likely those are the

(20:31):
first two picks. In the NFL draft in some order.
There could be another quarterback that rises up as the
season goes on, but right now it looks like these
are the guys at one and two that drafts out
another position at this point. But that's just you know,
Jet Jet, We've been looking for a quarterback since name it.
Okay is looking so you need you need somebody that's good,
one you trust to be in charge of this. You
need somebody with an offensive acumen. And what did Aaron

(20:53):
Glenn come in. I'm gonna go sign Justin Fields who stinks,
and we're gonna go back to nineteen sixties football where
we have a quarterback in two running backs. We want
to run the ball every single play Like this is
not how you win modern day NFL. This is the
guy that's gonna be in charge of Fernando Mendoza or
Dante Moore. Come on, man, you gotta do something different.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
To be fair. I mean it wasn't Aaron Glenn that
signed him, No, but still, but Aaron Glenn said, we
don't want you, Aaron Rodgers. We we we're gonna go
in a different direction. Okay, we're gonna get somebody else.
But that was part of that was excising the last
couple of years you had in the building, Yes, but
it was a lot bastion and negativity and a lot
of it's surrounding.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
Right, but stuff has happened. He's made decisions and they
haven't gone well. So I'm sorry if I don't trust
you to make bigger decisions when instead of a bridge quarterback,
it's we're gonna take care of this guy's career.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
The one is it, Darren moy What am I gonna?
What am I?

Speaker 1 (21:42):
I'm gonna watch Fernando Mendoza be awful with the Jets
for three years and then sign with the Rams and
take over for Matthew Stafford and he's gonna be a superstar.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
But that's one hundred percent the way it's gonna go.
I mean, this can go back. Do you want to
play the round ball rock start again? I mean you
can circle all the way back to that JR blip
with Sanchez.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
Whatever the Jets do is right. Otherwise it's been miserable now.
But so I'm like, Okay, we're gonna it's gonna be
a one and done year for Aaron Glenn. No, but
here's Whatdy Johnson today talking about how much he loves
what Aaron Glenn is doing with the Jets.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
It looks like he's turning around parts of it.

Speaker 5 (22:15):
You know, it's hard when you have a quarterback with
a rating that we've got. You knows, I mean, he
has the ability, but something just is not giving. But
if you look at any any head coach of the
quarterback like that, you're going to see similar results.

Speaker 7 (22:27):
If you were across the league, if I were a player,
he would I would respond to him because he's the
real deal. Nobs is no second a Gender's what you're
hearing is the truth. And a lot of time players don't.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
Get the truth.

Speaker 7 (22:40):
They get a lot of gobbledy googy.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
Great, So now I'm good, he said, gobbled got stuck
with Aaron Glenn. I'm stuck with Aaron. Everybody we're stuck
with Aaron Glenn.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
But you get a billionaire owner that said, Gobbler's stuck
with Aaron.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
Just one of us, we're stuck with him. Yeah, And
then he went on the end of that state when
he says, hey, Jets fans are the smartest fans. They
know what's going on. Okay, they know what's going on.
I'm like no for fifteen years. I have no idea
what's going on. I have no idea how every other
team in the NFL has gone to the playoffs. Who
every other team with no hope has found a way
to have hope. How the Lions have found a way

(23:12):
to have hope. And we don't how the Arizona Cardinals
have actually played in a playoff game. Every other team
is fair, but we can't know. So I don't know
what's going on. Jet's van Zeltz. No, Cardinals got a
couple of Super Bowl I don't know what's going on.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
I don't know what's And we could just complete a pass.
It would look good. Well, we got, we got that,
we got, we got, we got here, and we.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
Got It's okay, we's all set up to doing a
lot of wood we got, we got, Woody.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
Here's let's let's since Okay.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Since you since you live and mark tape on that.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
Okay, we're playing that back for Frostburg. Okay, ty share,
we play it back for me.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
It's about you playing it back on Frostburg. I wasn't recording.

Speaker 4 (23:47):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
Here's Woody Johnson laying the blame squarely at the feet
of Justin Fields.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
You know, they found a little spark with that quarterback.
I was talking to John Mayer not too long ago, and.

Speaker 4 (23:59):
I said, we were hoping that that change would.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
Have had.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
No, that's that's shar the other the other Woody Johnson
won maybe hard. We should have just he should have
just said it.

Speaker 7 (24:12):
If I were a player, he would I would respond
to him because he's a real deal. Nobs, there's no
second Agenda's what you're hearing is the truth. A lot
of times players don't get the truth. They get a
lot of gobbledy goolby.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
All right, that's the that's the other way. Okay.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
So Woody Johnson threw blame at Justin Fields and said,
as you said, if we could just complete a pass,
that would be okay. Right, we just complete a pass,
that would be okay. This is why it's tough being
a Jets fan because what he said was true. It
was embarrassing, it was harsh, it needed to be said,

(24:51):
and it's a really rough optic. It's all of these things.
What are you John's it's all of these things. It's
not just bad, it's not just rough. It's not just
what's needed. This is everything. This is why it's so tough.
It's hard to be a Jets fan. And then we
got the news later on today ESPN reporting that likely
they're going to change over to to Rod Taylor to

(25:11):
be the quarterback this week, and now Justin Field is
losing his job, And maybe that was the whole thing,
was Woody Johnson getting out in front of it. So hey,
it's okay to make a quarterback change. It's all right,
we're doing it. But like that, that's what makes it
so tough, because Justin Fields has been terrible, right, he's been.
He's been absolutely awful. But now here's your owner saying
our quarterback has been terrible. We don't need that. We know,
don't I don't think any team needs to say.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
I don't need to.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
Say how bad a quarterby We all see it again.
I don't need you to tell me how deep the
ocean is. I can see everybody knows that he's bad.
But yet, but like I said, it's needed, but it's embarrassing.
It's so hard to be the Jets. It's so hard.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
But the first step is admitting it you have a problem.

Speaker 4 (25:51):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
He was also asked, well, since quarterbacking has been so difficult. Uh,
do you regret what went on with Aaron Rodgers quote?
I never looked back, This is what he said to
Rich Samini. Yeah. Uh, you have to look forward in football,
even when you cut players, they could be a Hall
of famer. You just never know. But Aaron's playing great now.
He's in a situation that's working for him again. Organizational

(26:16):
ineptitude taken to the highest degree. H two years, forty
million dollars. Look, he had to sign off on that.
The aforementioned GM right brought him up. It's not Aaron
Glenn that unilaterally just said I like the cut of
that guy's Jim No, let's give him two years, forty
million dollars. And now to go to Torod Taylor when

(26:38):
you're own seven? What the hell's the point? You know
what Gerrod Taylor is, You're playing for number one. We
might win three games here. Yeah, but why why would
you be stuck with us my er at seven? But
why would you not say like this, I just whether
you like cook or not or you want to just
go find someone who's still hanging out. I'm glad you man,
I can answer that question. I bother a question for you.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Yeah, because Woody Johnson is the worst owner in the NFL. Okay,
he is the He's worse than Jerry. At least Jerry
Jones has somewhat of a plan of succeed. It may
not be good, but at least he's got some kind
of plan. See, I keep defending Jerry. All those double
digit win seasons. We'd kill for those, man, Come on,
I mean, it's really it is. There is no harder

(27:20):
team to root for in all of sports than the Jets.
There is no harder team. Every other team has found
a way to have some sort of excitement, some sort
of positivity. There's no team harder than the Jets. And
when you see stuff like this today, we're here's an
owner saying, hey, our quarterback can't.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
Compete a pass, complete a pass. Yeah we all know that.
But man, where we're at, and there's nowhere to go
just we are just absolutely dysfunctional. We are just at
We can't get out of our own way, and it
woul never gonna change. Which is worse that or I mean,
and we got plenty of time to talk about, you know,
Miami and everything going on there, But like their their
biggest claim to fame is celebrating when the last team loses,

(27:59):
it's the Mercury. Moore is raising up a dog.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
Yeah, we have Marino. They went to playoffs, like the
Jets are. They're living off a one win. We're living off.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
A one win. Saved the NFL five years ago, but
that made the NFL. He just did a whole thing
about how NBA starts. Don't remember the nineties.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
Now, Okay, the Jets are living off a one win
and it was fifty six years ago. Okay, that's how
long ago that. I don't know if the Jets would
still be a team if they didn't win that game.
But this is how bad. There's no worse team to
root for in all those sports. You give me every
other team, I'll say they have more positivity than the Jets.
I mean, really, you see, there's no factory of jad Jones.
Jerry Jones says all the stuff going on with Michael Parsons,

(28:40):
all the things he probably wanted to say, he never
said something like this.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
He never did. Jerry Jones even knows. Yeah, I'm not
gonna throw my quarterback under the bus like that. Now,
Justin Fields can never play for.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
The Shots before the season, not that I wanted to
see Justin Fields play again. But still, I mean, you know,
you don't see this happen. This is a level of
dysfunction that is just wow. There is nothing that's gonna
solve this, man, There is nothing. Even if you bulldoze
it and you build it back up again, You're not
gonna build anything good.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
You're gonna build it in.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
A faulty uh landlights. It's just gonna fall down again.
It's like slash and burn agriculture that never grows back.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
Well, we burned it. Is it growing back?

Speaker 8 (29:15):
No?

Speaker 1 (29:15):
Well you slashed it, Yeah and you burned it. Yeah,
where's the rest of it? It's not back?

Speaker 4 (29:19):
It was.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
That's all.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
We didn't rotate, really is it is the It is
the hardest team to root for in all of sports.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
And yet I must love the misery because I keep
coming back for what he's round up. They keep coming back.
He's always there for you. I keep coming back for
I mean every fault, Jason, we found out what he
sound you wanted? Oh you did, Okay, let's hear it.
Go ahead. You keep pulling the button. He keeps saying,

(29:48):
it is the smartest thing what Johnson's ever said. That's fair.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
That's what he should have said today instead of saying
justin fields that you know, if we can just complete
a pass like I mean, I really.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
We can just complete a pass.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Everybody knows that, Woody, we all know that. We all
watch the games. Jets fans are smart, we all watch
the games. We all know what's going on. Ex I
have no idea what's going on. This is what it
is to be a Jets fan again. Whatever team you
root for, just think, well, I don't have it like Jason,
and somehow he keeps coming back.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
I don't understand. That's how it goes. Got to be smarter, man.
You still have time to change change your evil ways.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Just an unbelievable day with the NF it it's the
hard reset time now to find out what's trending in
the wide world of sports. So someone who has been
called the Woody Johnson of Fox Sports Radio because he
walks around and tells me, Jason no more tears, it's
deep to say.

Speaker 3 (30:35):
And I can complete a pass.

Speaker 8 (30:36):
As for the NBA tonight in downtown La Genie Buss
is seated next to the new Lakers owner Mark Walter,
but of course multiple Laker fans are not seeing that
right now. You see, it's opening night in the NBA
and NBC has a new eleven year media rights deal
starting tonight. There's only two games to televise tonight, and

(30:57):
we're nearly done with the first quarter in LA, and
it's on streaming only.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
Peacock Baby, My Goodness.

Speaker 8 (31:04):
Golden State leads the Lakers in LA twenty two to fourteen.
Late in the first half. It's apparently going to a
second overtime. At defending champion Oklahoma City. The scoreboard shows
a tie at one fifteen for the Rockets Kevin Durant
with twenty points, thirty five for his new teammate Alpa
and Shngoon for Oklahoma City. Twenty eight points each for

(31:25):
Shay Gilgis Alexander, who sent it to the first overtime
with a bucket, and twenty eight for chet Holmgren, who
had started seven for seven from the floor. One fifteen
all end of the first overtime. Again, there's only two
games tonight. Most of the NBA teams start on Wednesday.
For the next Karl Anthony Towns is questionable with a

(31:45):
string quad, but he can complete a pass. Memphis guard
Jah Morant was cleared to play tomorrow after a sprained ankle.
Paul Georgia Philadelphia is out tomorrow after offseason knee surgery.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
Opening Night rosters.

Speaker 8 (31:57):
In the league, by the way, include a record tying
on one hundred and thirty five international players, over seventy
from Europe. The Angel's new manager is Kurt Suzuki, a
former catcher from nearby cow State Fullerton. He had a
sixteen year Major league career, finished as an Angel in
twenty twenty two.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
Oh see, I'm sorry, you mispronounced Albert pool Holes right,
because the Angels hired Pools Tory Hunter right, Oh right,
Tory Hunter.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
No, Tory Hunter. They hired both pool Holes and Hunter.

Speaker 8 (32:24):
All three of those were being paid by the Angels
on personal services contract. So I guess throw spaghetti against
the wall and some strand is gonna stick.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
But can we just say.

Speaker 8 (32:36):
Out loud they were paying Albert pool Holes a million
dollars a year for what exactly ten years ten million
dollars for a personal services contract after they already overpaid
on the actual playing contract and released him before he
was actually finished playing.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
You could just make personal services be manager of the Angels.
That's your personal service.

Speaker 8 (33:00):
And Mike Trout is still signed through twenty thirty and
he's been batting about two thirty the past two seasons.
You know, it's not all about We talked about this
in baseball. The Mets spent a lot of money, didn't
make the play.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
It's not all about money.

Speaker 8 (33:13):
You actually have to have a front office doing some
big people. The Halos have had a losing record for
ten straight years now. The World Series starts Friday night
on Fox TV Toronto, hosting the Dodgers. All the games
are at eight pm Eastern time. Game one for LA.
We'll have pitcher Blakesnell on the mound and then Yoshinobu

(33:33):
Yamamotos starting Game two Saturday night in Toronto. Vikings quarterback
Carson Wentz will start again Thursday at the LA Chargers
and among the NHL games tonight, Florida four to three
winner on a late goal at Boston, New Jersey's five
and one, after a win at Toronto five to two
and tied in overtime, LA at Saint Louis even at

(33:54):
one again for the one of two whole games tonight
for NBC to televise. It's the Rockets starting a second
overtime at Oklahoma City, tied at one fifteen.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
Back to you, Thank you, STEVEO. We'll keep you updated
on both of these NBA games. But coming up next,
got the Play of the Day and are the Dallas
Cowboys on the verge of a huge trade that could
vault them up the standings. That's next right here, Jason
and Mike Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
Fox Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon your selfish Bastard Warriors Lakers at the
end of one twenty five twenty two Warriors with the lead. Meanwhile,
in double overtime right now the Rockets and the thunder
Rockets with a one to nineteen to one seventeen lead.
We'll have more on this game coming up, and of course,

(34:54):
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(35:17):
buying should be. Well, when you win the NBA title
and you kick things off by hitting a big shot
to send the game to overtime, Jay Gilders, Alexander, you
get to be the play of the day.

Speaker 5 (35:28):
Shay in the open court, crossing the time out of
the seven shutter steps off, Tomas Tompson pulls up fires
of linen sixteen pot.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
To forget it. It's het at one oh four, Jugas
Alixander something speciful? Baby is he ever?

Speaker 2 (35:39):
Clutch?

Speaker 1 (35:40):
Thunder Radio Network on the call a big night. What's
turned into a big night for SGA wasn't it wasn't
one early on for him. He's got thirty seven out
of ten from the free throw line. But it's a
two point deficit for the Thunder right now, still a
lot of time left to go, just under two minutes.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
The curiosity they just put up the graphic. Kevin Durant
was seven teen after three quarters. He's taken one shot
since yeah he is uh, well, you know he got
to feel the game. Come yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
He's waiting.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
Maybe he's a little tired. Come on, man, a little
tired Opening night. You're gonna got the running around? What
the hell I expected? More so, we'll have more NBA
coming up in about ten minutes. A big thing from
everybody who's trying to watch the Lakers and Warriors game now.
But big trade Rumor Today reports that the Cowboys have
spoken to the Raiders about Max Crosby, which, again, the

(36:34):
easy joke here is, oh, now, Jerry Jones realized you
needed to defend the pass too. If only you had
a guy like that. Oh you did have him in
Micah Parsons.

Speaker 3 (36:41):
Okay, he still would have had to pay him, don't them.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
I got that guy, and I'm trading this guy, and
I'm trading that guy's making all these trades.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
So look, I'm gonna do things my way.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Yeah, and my way is terrible.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
So if I make enough trades, people won't be able
to keep track of it and they'll just say, hey,
I did a good thing. Three card money is to
see the queen is right here and follow it for
the shell game. Let's go that's maca, that's this that
to help moving moment on.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
Not only would.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
This be a great move for the Cowboys because it
would show the Cowboys that, hey, Jerry Jones has confidence
in this team because the offense is tremendous. Right, it's
even better. And I said beginning of the season, I said,
watch out, how good this Cowboys offic is gonna be? Right,
don't get a shootout with them. The offense is legit,
and it's the best offense in the NFL. It's even

(37:26):
a little it's it's putting up numbers a little bit
better than what the Colts are putting up. Well, you
look at Jake Ferguson's your number one tight end fantasy. Yeah,
he's been ridiculously consistent. George Dickens had an incredible first
six games. He's gonna be Graham is back.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
Now it's a question of whether you can keep Pickings happy.
Now like that that becomes the thing. Javonte Williams has
been a great fine at the running back now again.
Ric o'dodell was a thousand yard runner last year. But
all of that to say is you've got weapons, and
now you figure out defensively how to make things easier
on Eberflus, Right, and.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
It would because Max Crossby the guy. He's a plug
and play guy. We'll get after the quarterback he's got,
you know, to get him. He's already following a lot
of Dallas players on Instagram, like he's following nine players
on Instagram, Like all of a sudden that changed today. Yes,
if you're the Raiders, you really don't have any use
for Max Crosby anymore. He's still an elite pass rusher
that will get to the quarterback. He will bring the
Cowboys the defensive attitude they need they're missing. This is

(38:20):
a home run move for the Dallas Cowboys. Getting Max
Crosby vaults them up into contender status.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
Right.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
This will do that because you see how good the
offense is. They don't need the defense to play the
level of league you know, league elite. They just need
to be hey, just play league average. And certainly Crosby
is a plug and play guy, he would be great.
But more importantly, and this is why it's gonna get done,
because Jerry Jones knows he can rebuild all that goodwill
that he lost with the Micah Parsons trade because he's

(38:47):
still hated so much in Dallas for the move, and
you got rid of our best guy. He goes out
and gets Max Crosby. Okay, we changed things up a
little bit. We don't pay Mike up, but we got
a couple of draft picks. Now we have Max Crosby.
He changes the conversation and he gets back a lot
of good will. He buys back a lot of goodwill
and a lot of optimism, and suddenly everything in Dallas

(39:07):
feels better. The team feels better. They feel that Jones
has confidence in them. They feel they have confidence in
the team going forward with Dak they can win any game.
Crosby's gonna help them defensively. Jerry Jones gets the trust
from the players and the media and Cowboys Nation. Like
everybody wins in this. I can't see how this doesn't
get done at this point, Like this is this is

(39:28):
an absolute must for Jerry Jones to get done.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
Yeah. A couple of insiders followed up, and again it's
all fluid with a couple of weeks before the trade deadline,
but Pellisero said that the Raiders met with him to say, hey,
you're not leaving. We're not going away. And then Jane
Slater covers everything there in Dallas. She also actually put
a gift of someone throwing a bucket of water on
stuff in the conversations to say I would love this

(39:53):
for you. However, at this point it's not happening. But
that doesn't mean it isn't subject to change if the
price is right. Because we look at the Raiders right now,
they're a domster fire, right. And the contract that Crosby has,
it's a three year, one hundred and six million dollar
deal that was signed in March that keeps him there
through twenty twenty nine, average salary of about thirty five

(40:16):
and a half ninety one guaranteed. We know that Parsons
got his four year, one eighty eight one hundred and
thirty six million in guarantees flowing on there. But all
of that is you make a decision in the moment.
You're paying heavy on the offensive side of things. And
I gotta say I go back to a defended Shane
on a lot of it, except for the phone call

(40:38):
where he was crying, Hey, you're gonna let us know, right,
say Kwan now, bad job I have likewise with with
Jerry Jones, like you're trying to figure out how you
build out the best roster and what Mico might mean
to you in terms of wins and losses. Now clearly
it killed your your defense because well you know you're
planning with him being there. Well, now you can plug

(41:00):
and play.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
It's a home run. Jerry Jones has to get this done.
Another big story out of the NFL coming up next
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Speaker 3 (41:36):
It in, rip the knob off, and then you send
it to me. It's proof.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
Fortive Golden State with the lead over the Lakers two
minutes ago before halftime. Remember no Lebron James Tonight, Luka
Doncic carrying the Lakers so far. Skinny Lucas a nice
five point game.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it looks good.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
I didn't know what we're gonna get, but yeah, he
seems to be into However the game ends, much will
be a storyline.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
Yeah, it's fun. It's been Chippy's like in mid season forms.
It's good. And there were a lots so much media
assembled for Skinny Luca like a playoff game. So a
lot more NBA on the way.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
But joining us now, I'm the hotline to take a
look at the World Series. Nobody better than MLB Network
insider extraordinaire John Paul Morosi. He is on Twitter at
John Morosi and I know it's a tough day for you,
John Paul. I want to say thank you for joining
us after explaining to your dad somehow how the Tigers
and Tariq school Ball are two hundred and fifty million

(42:33):
dollars apart, and likely the Mets are going to trade
for him, So I know it was a tough day.
Thank you for joining us on the show.

Speaker 4 (42:39):
It is only a matter of time, my friend. It
is only a matter of time before he is in Flushing,
Queens pitching for your team. But he is not pitching
for the Mets or the Tigers in this World Series.
There are a couple great ball clubs that will be
contesting this Fall Classic. And before we go any further,
I have to say that I I should have trusted

(43:01):
my hometown team or I got admit that right away
I predicted the Bucks would win. I was wrong and
the Lions for the first time this year, I picked
against him and was humbled in the process. So maybe
maybe they will be contesting in football's version of the

(43:23):
World Series later on, but we are several months away
from selling matters matters there.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
Well, I'm see, I'm okay with all that because you
just told me that the Mets are going to get Schooble,
So I'm okay with that.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
You can say whatever you want to. If you really
think that's gonna happen, that's great.

Speaker 4 (43:38):
Well, not imminently. You have to wait for that one too.
I don't think it'll be this offseason, but maybe it's
a deadline maybe next off season. The Mets, I'll tell
you this, the Mets have some issues, the likes of
which schoolble alone will not solve. The Mets have some issues.

(44:00):
They go beyond one one starting pitcher. But there is time. Indeed,
well we can we can reconvene the Mets therapy sessions
really on a weekly basis. If you want all the
way through the fall and winter, so well, we will
make sure we do that after the final out of
this world series is recorded, which I think, by the way,
those that are forecasting a breezy second straight championship for

(44:23):
the Dodgers, I think have not been paying close attention
to the American League playoffs.

Speaker 3 (44:27):
Smith really a depth at getting his own needs in.
So we we got the Mets talk in. So let's
let's get to the how are you two hundred and
fifty million dollars? Apart from Tarik school? Like anybody, they
want to give him a dollar, he wants two hundred
and fifty million dollars. I mean it's not hard. I mean,
how are you that far away?

Speaker 4 (44:46):
What's the quarter of a billion dollars?

Speaker 3 (44:49):
That's right? Between friends?

Speaker 4 (44:50):
Absolutely stopped us before, never stopped us before. But as
you may have surmised, I have. I have returned home
from my travels there of the American League Championship Series,
a great series, classic classic Game seven. And by the way,
we are having this conversation on the fiftieth anniversary of

(45:11):
the Carlton Fiscal n Oh, Yeah, able to talk to
him last week about it. I felt as though this
was like a very long, extended postgame interview from fifty
years ago that I was if I was on the field,
if they had had if I had been alive, and
if they had had a sideline reporters back in the day,
what would I have asked Fisk in that moment. So
that was a lot of fun. By the way, one

(45:31):
of my favorite notes, and I would recommend the full podcast,
at some point, wrote Coopers Down, is that the production
team actually had to explain to Robin Williams why that
game was such a big deal. So obviously Matt Damon knew,
but they had to say, okay, Robin Williams, sit down,
we got to explain this. So you know, Robin had

(45:53):
the connection to the Giants and as a baseball fan,
but did not really know just how important that game
is in the lore of New England. And so that
was my favorite detail that punch Fist told me that, Yeah,
they Matt David said that they had to coach up
Robin Williams on how important that whole game was. Had
to go see about a girl the whole story that
they had to actually coach him up on that a

(46:14):
little bit. That was probably my favorite part of the conversation.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
But to that conversation with White Sox all the famer
Carlton Fiska.

Speaker 4 (46:23):
And we covered that too, We covered that part of
his he played for Bolt Sox, there was obviously the
Red Sox didn't quite value him in the proper way,
and then he went on and became a legend with
the other color of stockings. But again, let's let's maybe
get back to what I was trying to say at
the outset, which is I think that the Blue Jays

(46:47):
are going to present the toughest lineups that the Dodger
pitchers have had to deal with. And I also think
that their rotation is in some ways a mirror image.
Obviously they're all right handed, but has that same approach,
a lot of splitters, a lot of power stuff. Now,

(47:10):
Trey and Savage, what a sensation he's become as a
rookie he starts Game six. I don't know how you
get any more confidence to what Trey Savage has right
now to be able to start an elimination game at
home and and help this team deliver the win there,
So I'm I am bullish on the Jays chances they
may have actually stumbled into Chris Bassett is a legitimate
bullpen option. After he pitches the eighth inning last night,

(47:31):
Jeff Hoffin gets the final three outs Vladimir Guerrero Junior
and ascended Starr. He's able to have a huge postseason.
Springer has the big home run last night. So yeah, yes,
and well I'm not going there.

Speaker 3 (47:47):
It's still part of our history here and with the
Dodgers waiting on him.

Speaker 4 (47:51):
Well, the Dodgers, the Dodgers v. George Springer's that's a
real one. That is a real story, no question about it.
And I'm sure Dodgers day we'll be ready to But
I look at these two teams as being very closely matched.
I still probably believe it's gonna be the Dodgers, but
it's gonna be six games and not the three and

(48:12):
a half that some people think that seems to be
the possibility.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
Well, I'll tell you, John Paul, we talked about this
last night, so you were talking about the first big
Bold predictions. While I think in the World Series, no
matter how you slice it, I think the Dodgers lefties
absolutely feast in this series off of the Blue Jays pitching, Otani, Freeman, Muncie.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
It's gonna be like this.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
These are going to be the guys that carry the
Dodgers in this World series.

Speaker 4 (48:37):
Yeah, and I think to your point that, well, first
of all, the Mariners had cal Raley, and now the
Dodgers have maybe not some of the hit sixty homers
this year, but they've got multiple left handed threats. And
I think it'll be interesting to see exactly how Dave
Roberts separates those lefties out. Obviously you can go Otani one,
Freeman three and handle it from there. I you're right.

(49:01):
I think you're gonna have to see No. One One
neutralizer often is the split. The split is a neutralizing
pitch from Gossman, from you Savage. Obviously, Bieber his stuff.
Really I thought ticked up what you saw from there
in Game seven some good sliders. So I think in
general you're right that the lefties, whether it's a young

(49:23):
Mason flu Hardy, is gonna have to I think, have
the series of his life now. He of course, back
on August the tenth truck out Otani and Bets to
end the game. Which is the reason why it's the
Jays and not the Dodgers with home field advantage. How
about that, Mason flu Hardy, go back look at that
play by play, Bass is loaded one out situation. Flu

(49:43):
Hardy comes in and it's Otani bets and he strikes
them both out and the Jays win the game and
they finished with one more win than the Dodgers this year.
Pretty interesting story there. So I do think flu Hardy
is someone that we're going to see probably a good
amount of They may actually change up a bit of
their their late inning approach, maybe one more adjustment, maybe

(50:07):
they find a way to get Nance back on there.
I do think Little is someone that they don't probably
have a ton of confidence in based on what happened
in Seattle in Game five. But probably the biggest adjustment
to the roster is going to be Bobashett coming back,
and I think he's probably going to be a tin
shitter type. I would say that it's unlikely that you're
going to see George Springer starting in the outfield right now,

(50:28):
especially after the d situation that he went through in
the ALCS. So my expectation is Springer stays in the
DH Row and bo is there to face Alex Vesia
in a big spot.

Speaker 3 (50:41):
Well, and that becomes the curiosity, right, how deep can
you get into these games with the Dodger starters? Last
last round wasn't look obviously the three home runs by
show Aotani in the clincher, but the offense still looking
to break through as a whole. But for the Dodger
pitching got to a made. Dave Roberts has to go

(51:01):
to that bingo card a little more frequently.

Speaker 4 (51:04):
Yeah, well, and too think about just how dominant the
rotation was, especially in the first two games in the
series against Milwaukee. Nell was unbelievable. Yamamoto unreal And that's
the benefit. And we've been debating this since the beginning
of time in baseball, which is rest versus rust, and
maybe at the beginning of time, but I think you
get the idea of last hundred years or so, and

(51:26):
I think you discuss that the Dodgers. I think it
will maybe be a bit of an adjustment for them
where they're walking into Rogers Center and the Jays just
won this emotional game they've had. They've really cranked up
the whole bit advantage and now the Dodgers. After having

(51:46):
several days of just workouts and kind of clinching early
and clinching fast against the Brewers, they've got to get
right back into this super high intensity environment. So I
like the Jays chances to win one of those first
two games, even though they're going to be facing Snell
and Yamamodo with the benefit of extra rest. The one
thing you would say is that with Snell, the Jays

(52:09):
did not encounter a lefty starter in the Alcs. It was,
of course, alrightyes, and so I think that you know
this will be again. Snell is not a generic lefty obviously,
but for the righty bats in Toronto's lineup, maybe it
results in some better at bats, even more production from
guys like Springer. Those writings are really vital to the

(52:34):
Jay's success here in this postseason.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
You know, you mentioned the starting pitching, and it's something
we've talked about the last few days where it's almost
it almost reminds me this with the Dodgers and the
Blue Jays have a bit of warning for the Dodgers
of the twenty fifteen World Series, where the Mets just
pitched hot knife through butter through the Cubs and then
you get a.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
Little bit of a bounce.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
In the World Series, you defensively you're not as strong,
and suddenly look at the Royals winning the World Series.
But like, I feel like that's gonna the Dodgers can't
expect to pitch like they did in the NLCS. They're
probably gonn get a little bit of a bounce. However,
maybe they're batch starting to wake up, and I got
a sneaking suspicion they're going to just hit the crap
out of the ball those first couple of games in Toronto.

Speaker 4 (53:11):
Yeah, it's it's really it's a good hitting environment, good
hitting ballpark. That's but that's that's a big question, right,
is a little more unfamiliarity. They've got no familiarity with
your savage beyond seeing them on TV and seeing them
on the video wise, So that's it's certainly now you've
got the projet machines and all these different fancy things
that teams can do to get even better looks at

(53:32):
at at pitchers. But I think that when you consider
the way the Dodgers have hit in this postseason you
mentioned earlier, it's not as though they've been the twenty
seven Yankees is putting up all kinds of runs here
and there. They've they've been winning because they're pitching really
And I think it's actually a pretty interesting comparison that
you make to the Mets Royal series because the Royals

(53:56):
that team. First of all, they didn't have anybody offensively
who was clicking quite like Laddie has been in these playoffs.
But they did have a very good contact oriented team.
And I think my favorite stat, you know, Buster only
mentioned this, I think during the Alcs. At this point
in time, I believe Laddie's that six homers and two
strikeouts for the whole postseason six homers and two strikeouts.

(54:19):
So if you've got guys that are putting the ball
in play, and the Jays do a pretty good job
of that, they can bump when they have to. This
is the type of team that I believe would would
give the Dodgers some fits. And I think the Dodgers,
obviously they strained a bit more to win that series
against the Phillies they did against the Brewers, and the

(54:41):
Phillies I think in some ways have a lineup that
is a little similar to what Toronto has. But I
think in some ways Toronto's lineup is the best in
a postseason setting that the Dodgers will have faced, and
they're gonna have a real challenge here. I think this
is going to be a very very tight series that
goes at least six games, and I think there's gonna
be a lot of really fun storylines emerging. Of course,

(55:03):
you've got Freddie Freeman, his parents are both Canadians, and
you've got that story two Taskerrnandez facing his former team.
A lot of really cool notes. In addition to the
fact that Boba Schet, what kind of stage will that
be for him to come back ideally for the Jays
into some kind of a role in the World Series.
It's gonna be special Canada hosting the World Series for

(55:26):
the first time in more than thirty years.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
He's on Twitter at John Morosi, That is at John
Morosi MLB Network insider John Paul will talk to you
after game one and get your fearless lines picked for
this weekend, get you back on the road to winning.

Speaker 4 (55:42):
Yeah, I appreciate it that. I think I'm probably gonna
have to pick the Lions to win, just as soon
as I figure out who they're gonna play and the
names of players and the team beyond Jared Golf. But
I've only lost one, so I've been feeling pretty good
about it.

Speaker 3 (55:56):
That's okay. If you pick him not to lose this
week because they have a buy, I think you're gonna
be fine. You'll be fine this week. You'll be fine.
To say no, way, you guarantee they won't lose this week.
You guarantee it.

Speaker 4 (56:06):
Let's still talk baseball after the game board of the
World Series.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
That's great.

Speaker 4 (56:10):
And then.

Speaker 3 (56:12):
I think that's a good idea, John Paul, We'll talk
to you after game one.

Speaker 4 (56:15):
I'm looking forward to it.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
But I like that he transited to I was like,
I was only coming out from my alliance King.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
I mean, what are you gonna do?

Speaker 3 (56:21):
Let's do baseball. A little bit of that