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content out for you every single night. Well, here we
are on Wednesday, and for the first time I will
say this. The Knicks game is ending. The varsity game
is ready to begin. Whoa, whoa?

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Whoa?

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Are you just saying that because Tyler Kolak got a
couple of minutes here at I mean, what do we
talk see some of the guys the next had in
that game at the end, I think Walt Fraser played
a couple of minutes, was it, Daddy? I mean you
had fourteen or fifteen guys, Yeah, find their way on
to the court. Uh yes, So they were looking at
each other like they've never met. No, fine, am I'm Jim,
Hey I'm Alex. How are you doing next to meet

(01:26):
job guys wearing the same laundry? Do you want to
play point card or do you want me to play?
Because I would like to play port Okay, that's that's fine.
I'll play Rock Paper Scissors that final. So yes, look,
big doubleheader of the night. The opening game, the Knicks
just roll past the Minnesota Timberwolves. Uh fourteen. It's a
good game. At half, it was. And then the Knicks
just to say, hey where the Knicks. We're pulling away.

(01:48):
Go New York, Go, New York.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
Go.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
But the Wolves didn't have KG, No they did. They
didn't have Tom Googliata either. It was a huge lot.
That's that's that's that's very difficult. Sure he's the Googs.
Yeah no, you're not winning that game. Not winning but
Marbury shoes, I mean all of that stuff. We are
now getting potentially Western Conference Finals preview. We are getting

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Spurs and the Lakers, Wemby and Luca are playing. I
just I did this? Did you verify that? I? Well, okay,
they show last five minutes. They showed Wemby in the
locker room getting dressed. They had a graphic on Luka
doncic so, I I have there was a graphic Luca,
graphic on Luca. We got no visual, but Luca was
in the graphic. Luca was in Laker gear, not in

(02:34):
the slimming but it wasn't a gear him from the
interwebs like, no, it was actually him, like it was
Harry Potter with the moving person. Well, it's like the
trading cards. You can't expect Dumbledore to stay forever. Video
of Wemby, uh before the game and a graphic of Luca.
I I'm pretty sure we're feeling good about this. Okay, Yeah,
that's good. And your guy Austin Reeves is ready and

(02:56):
loaded for Bear. I'm sure. I mean, look, this is
he's like your hero. Now, this is what Look, he's
the Scottie Pippen till Luca daunted is Michael Jordan Lebron's
coming back Lebron's coming back is Bill Wennington when he
comes back. I mean, come on, man, you got Luca
is is Mike and and Austin Reeves is Pippin' uh

(03:17):
Ruey Hotchimore is bj Armstrong. Just be careful. Jackson has
been lured out of whatever made because he's got a
book out, so he's doing promos. Maybe Lebron is Luke
Longley when he comes back. Maybe maybe he's maybe he's
Horace Grant. Maybe he's Steve Kerr like Lebron. Lebron's coming
back to Grant with or without goggles. Uh, with goggles,

(03:40):
He's with goggles, he's a force. Yeah no, without goggles,
he might be Harvey. You don't know. I mean just look,
this is a big and look and you're saying, well,
Harvey Grant played for the Wizards for long. It was
a bullet and he It all goes back to the
Harry Potter thing. Watching. Look. ESPN is doing their intro
right now. There is a big picture behind Milika and

(04:00):
of Wemby. There's a big one of Luca in his
Laker jersey right behind they are playing. They call him Michael. Yeah, hey, listen,
I don't want you to put anything Lakers behind me,
put that behind her. Okay, I don't want that. I
don't want the Lakers be looking over my shoulder. Okay,
we beat them three years ago before I got fired. Now,
if they animated that Luca graphic, that would have been

(04:20):
funny as hell, like he was looking down on alone
and mocking him. But really, I mean too big. Look,
this is a huge game tonight. There's so much interest
in this watching Luca warm up on the court. Again,
Luca's going to play right. But Wemby, we've talked about,
not surprised that the Spurs are this good. Remember, I
don't like to say this, but I told you they
were my long shot NBA Finals pick because at some

(04:42):
point Wemby's becoming the best player in the NBA. I
thought it might take till closer, till the All Star break,
but it's happening. Now, We're into November and Wemby's the
best player in the NBA.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yeah, Luca lost to Phoenix. Yeah, but it's okay. Well,
I think I think they'll take you'll take six up,
one down. I think you'll you'll take that going along
the way. So you're already giving him the victory tonight. Yeah,
you'll take well, you take the five what I'm saying,
you'll take five to six up, one down, You'll you'll
take that for this. But the Lakers, the Lakers are
so like the Spurs are fun, right, Like they're coming
back and now finally they have a star that's more

(05:13):
exciting to watch than than Tim Duncan. Boy. I really
like watching him just you know, box out and and
hit that fade away off the glass. Boy, that's fun.
That's fun seeing that over and over and over again.
But like Wemby's made the Spurs fun, and the era
of the Spurs is here being a dominant team in
the Western Conference, right, because it's not surprising, oh, when
a guy becomes the best player in the NBA that

(05:35):
his team is gonna be good.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Right.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
I can't believe more people weren't on the Spurs this year.
But the Lakers. This is just absolutely fascinating because this
is the exact opposite of how anyone, including Lebron, thought
this season was gonna start for the Lakers. Because you know, Leblok,
Lebron and the Lakers have been at odds. They've been
keeping him out. He's not in the circle of trust anymore.

(05:57):
He is way outside. He is way outside Ben stillers
circle of trust with Robert de Niro and meet the parents. Man,
He's so far outside. You know, both each want the
other person gone. Lebron wants to be gone. The Lakers
want him gone, and Lebron with whether he's old, whether
he just wants to sit out. You know, he is thinking, Okay,
how do I get my cachet back with the Lakers?

(06:17):
Without me? They might not start out great. Maybe Luca
lifts them a little bit and they're a five hundred team.
But when I come back, we're better. And then I
get a little bit of my Hey, don't remember, it's
still Lebron's team. It's still Lebron's team, right, But what
have we seen instead? Luca has been terrific, And when
Luca's been out, Austin Reeves has won games all by himself.

(06:39):
And when he's out, Smith Junior, right exactly off the bench,
is scoring twenty five and twenty five minutes the Lakers.
For all the hot takes you see, you know, the
Indiana Fever are functioning better without Caitlin Clark than they
are with her. Uh. You watch the Lakers and see
how they function They are functioning incredibly well without Lebron James.

(07:01):
They're functioning well without I mean really, I mean obviously
not for a long period of time, but nights when
Luca misses, they've still been okay. Right. You watch Austin
Reeves forty points fifty points thirty in a game winner.
This team is moving the ball around, They're getting more
players involved. It is a much more cohesive team with
Austin Reeves functioning as the one A or the two

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to Luca's one. Especially coming out of the backcourt. Reeves
doesn't need the ball in his hand as much Luca
can have the ball. It's not auditioned by subtraction. It's just, hey,
this fit right now really really works, whereas last year
was hey, Luca's got the ball, Lebron's got the ball.
Does anybody else really get involved in what did you say?
Did anybody really step up when that happened? Do we
think all the Lakers are going to be really good?

(07:44):
They're going to figure things out. They figured things out
without Lebron James. I mean, think about that when he
comes back. How is he going to fit in? I
feel like it's the same conversation we had that when
when sanity was going on and Mellow was hurt, which
is why insanity happened, And the questions were, uh, Mellow,
how are you going to fit into this offense when
you come back? What do you mean for it's my offense?

(08:05):
This guy's been around for about a day and a half.
What are you tough? But that's really where the Lakers are.
They look better so far without Lebron James. I never
thought i'd say that, Yet here we are. Well, I
mean some of it. I think if you went to Carmelo,
first off, and you brought any of that up, he'd
have flashbacks. Oh well, I mean him and Phil Jackson
are still fighting now about them? No, that's it Phil

(08:27):
doing this thing with his you know, top seventy five book.
He and Sam Smith, a longtime beat rider for the
Bulls going through and now a great singer. Oh yeah,
he can get up there me. No, they were all
with Dan Patrick, and he validated a point I've made
for a long time. What's that? He said? The guy
you wished he would have coached was Christian Laytner. How
about that they're selling the Christian Laytner thing forever that

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he was just in a terrible uh oh circumstance. He
was a te wolf for all those years. But you
look at what the Lakers have been and he got
what six seven guys averaging six seven exactly averaging double
digit figures at this point, including Nick Smith Junior in
his three games. La Ravia has been fantastic off the bench.

(09:11):
Reeve's average still averaging nine assists per game. So you're
moving the ball and guys are finding their roles, and
you met, you know, harken back to last year where
there's a lot of standing around with all right, who,
how's this flowing? I mean, how many possessions did each
guy take off? Or you can go back and isolate,
all right, there's Luca. He's not even in frame right,
hands on the hip as Lebron takes the ball or

(09:33):
vice versa, and overall it's still played. It played well,
It's just disjointed here for this first part of the
season with Lebron on the shelf, they've been able to
figure it out when Luca's not there. Everybody's relishing the
extra minutes, the extra touches, knowing that they might be
part of a deal like that's the other part, like
a lot of these guys are just trying to find

(09:53):
their mark to show their value either with JJ Reddick
and what the Lakers are building or if not, auditioning
for another team. Because there's no way I don't believe
at all that this is where we're at anywhere near
the trade deadline in terms of what this Lakers roster
looks like, whether Lebron's gone or still there or whatever.

(10:14):
The ancillary parts. Are you making tweaks or are you
saying we need another big player in but the any
parts need move I don't know. I know we need
a big player. Can't get I gonna get Wemby. So
but I mean, this is this is the worst nightmare
for Lebron James because the one thing Lebron has always
never had to fight about has been relevant. Right, That's
why this is a big deal. Lebron has been the

(10:37):
straw that has stirred the drink in the NBA for
twenty years. Still at this point, he is the number
one star in the league that everybody talks about, that
that that moves the needle. Yeah, it's great to talk about.
We talk a lot about Wemby, Does it doesn't do
what Lebron does. I love talking about the Knicks, and
Knicks are relevant. Nicker Hughte not as big as Lebron.
Twenty years he has had no matter what he has done,

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the one thing he is ever had has been wait
a minute, I'm just the I'm the second guy in
the Buddy Cop movie. I'm I'm the I'm the sidekick,
I'm the he's not been that guy. I'm not gonna lie.
I've really enjoyed these first couple of weeks of the
NBA season because this is i mean, we we talked
about it a little bit, but because of this marquee
matchup against the Spurs, this is the first time that

(11:19):
it's fully in focus. I'm enjoying just watching the rest
of the NBA and seeing these guys getting their shine.

Speaker 4 (11:23):
Right.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
You got wem Bin Yama and Castle a nice one
to two in their own rights. Right now. That Castle
is healthy and giving you the minutes he is, uh
And you look at some of the other young stars
who talk about your nicks and and laughers like they
pulled off today. It was good that that Ann Edwards
is back and able to play and all but and
Yanna is putting up points. Whether he becomes a nick

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later on, but that Lebron doesn't have to be the
focal point to coverage, right, and and that top part
of a funneling down of NBA stories. There are plenty
of other stars taking their shine and and taking up
the the oxygen in the room. When he comes back, great,
But for now he's over there. He's just in time out.

(12:06):
But he's gone. Look, he's still playing. He's still he
still needs to figure out a way. And maybe this
is why he's sitting out, because I got to figure
out a way to to be be the guy again. Right,
He's never that's the thing. He's never been that guy.
He's never had to be the Oh maybe now I'm
lower in the pecking order. Whether you and and if
he came into this year and it was him and Luca,

(12:26):
you could say, Okay, I'm okay with it being Lucas team,
but still everybody knows it's really my team. And when
the playoffs come, I'm the guy taking the shots because
he's always been a big playoff performer, So I'm okay
with that. But now it's he's getting such shunted aside
to the point where where you really wonder, like, how
is he gonna handle not being the story? And I've
said this scre I can't. I still have a hard

(12:47):
time envisioning Lebron James suiting up for this Laker team,
with the way the off season has gone and how
they have said to him, you are not our guy,
we would like you to go, and he says I
would like to go. I still I can't believe he's
actually gonna play. But that's the most fascinating store in
the NBA. What kind of role he has when he
comes back? Is it the number three guy? How does

(13:07):
he adjust with not being that big star again? Like
how is he just gonna be really sullen and surly
the entire time? Is he gonna be funny and not caring?
Is he gonna play once and then not come back
for the three weeks? Like that's fascinating because I don't
know how he's gonna handle them. I'll take you back
to arriving at Northwestern. I went to a competitive high
school in the in Chicago and a lot a lot

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of smart people, a lot a lot of people smarter
than me. But then I get to Northwestern and I'm
used to that a lot of people that came to
Northwestern were not used to that. They were the smartest
kid by far, and all of their reaches across the
country and globally, and then all of a sudden they
were getting smacked around in those classes didn't go so well.
Lebron is finally seeing that for the first time in

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his life. He's that little kid with the book back, going, yeah,
this ain't so easy anymore. Uh. I mean, he might
be the number three guy in the Lakers if he
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(15:45):
the Night. Spurs lead the Lakers right now thirteen to eight,
midway through the first quarter. We'll continue to keep you
updated on this game, Wemby versus Luca both are playing.
Everybody seems find no load management tonight. Yes, I gotta say, like,
that's already gotten out of control. You know, we're seven
games in and already load management and seeing guys just

(16:06):
rested across the board. Like you know, we're not even
gonna pretend that it's a thing anymore. We're gonna try
to hide behind it. It's just yeah, these guys are
all missing. Now, what are you gonna do? I mean
we talked about it last night. I mean you were
incensed by the eight o'clock start time. I was more
upset that Kawhi was watching like we were against an
Oklahoma City thunder team, defending champs, coming undefeated all of that. Hey,

(16:29):
here's a big marquee event. Could you do this for
the new TV partner? I'll see you in Hell. No,
I'm not working. I mean, who's like, like, the Warriors
are missing what seven guys? You know, Curry is sick
and there's Ah He's danging like It's like now, teams
really because of the play, not just because of the plan,
but as a result of it, teams don't really care anymore. Well,

(16:52):
we want to be in the top six, sure, but
if we're seven through ten, all right, We've seen teams
run to the NBA unless we got the mutant courts
because the Cup is live. We're okay, We're yeah, we're
okay here. So the teams just don't care as much
about the regular season, and now you are seeing it
in just a brazen way, like I don't really care anymore.
It used to be, Hey, this guy's hurt. We're not

(17:13):
gonna we're gonna hide him from the media today even
though he's you know, we're gonna keep him in the back,
say he's getting treatment, but he's not really hurt. But
he's not gonna play tonight. We're gonna say he's dinged up.
We gotta hide it though nobody's saying anything. Now it's just, yeah,
these guys are all missing. Yeah, Steph's out, Draymond's out,
all the all those guys are what's the matter with him?
Steph is sick, and you know, somebody has a has

(17:34):
a concert to go to, and there's you know, somebody's
kid is in a recital, and and yeah, just something
outside of rest. Okay, in the second week of the season,
unless you're Zion Williamson, who's already on the shelf, saying
rest and that you need the time off already. Come on, Like,
what are we doing here. I know it's a long slog,
and we've talked about this forever. I appreciate the product,

(17:56):
appreciate the wear and tear on the body and everything else.
But you're two weeks into the season. Yeah, I mean
you want to talk Hey, December January and you need
and you need a day. I can understand that you're
on a five game roadie, fine hair. Nah, I got
another way. I did appreciate though, because we we do

(18:18):
get the matchup, as you've talked about with Luca and
Wemby both playing. Uh DeAndre Ayton just went in with
one of the weakest efforts in the low post. I've
seen Wemby just laid in wait and that went up
and blocked the thing in this Come on, man strong. Yeah,
but I think sometimes when you get the ball and
you go in and you go why he's he's got this. Yeah, Okay,

(18:38):
you know what, I'm not gonna physically exert myself because
he's he's gonna block, but go in and then make
him work for the block. You basically said, here, here's
a here's one of those highlights that Adam Silver loves
so much. He's so big. It's like running. He's so
it's like big. When you get close to him, he's
got his hands. It's like running into it, like in
a in a in a science fiction movie when when

(18:58):
there's like killer spider that are like that are like,
you know, fifty feet big, it's like running into it.
Going back to the William Shatner classic Kingdom of the Spiders,
back where are the Spiders? Spack tarantulis now like when
you run it up, you know, I'm running into this
and and I'm not getting out of this web. The
web is just way too big. The spider is fifty
feet big. Tap, I'm gonna I'm done. I'm just gonna
jump in and just stick right on the wall. Right,

(19:20):
That's what's gonna happen to spider Man. Spider Man now,
day after the NFL trade deadline and something that we've
talked about, like we hit on this on Monday night.
We talked about it and know, as always, congratulations to
everybody who picked up the topic in the last day
or so. It catches up eventually but today the Cardinals

(19:41):
announced Kyler Murray will go on injured reserve as he
continues to try to rehabilitate his foot injury. Right, so
now we pushed his story forward because now I got
something for you even better on this is that worth
a one hundred thousand dollars fine? Monday Monday, we said,
you know what, it's really time for the Cardinals to
move on from Kyler Murray. They have to find a
way to trade him in the off season. We said,
it's not gonna happen by Tuesday, obviously because he's injured,

(20:03):
the money that's due the dead cap, but you really
need to move on because you're seeing with Jacobe Brissett,
who's not the answer. But when your number two guy
who's been a backup in the league for a long
time can come in and play better than your starter,
you know, we've gone as far as we can with
the Kyler Murray experience, and somebody else is going to say, yes,

(20:23):
we will take him. There's many different quarterback gurus that think, oh,
we can turn him into something, whether it's the Jets
or the Dolphins or the Browns, or somebody's gonna say, oh, no,
I know how to do it. We can do it. Okay,
So you figure out the money, you figure out a trade, right,
Money's always figure outable. It's always figure out able. You
can always figure it out. Figure out able. I made
that up right now, figure out able. So yeah, Kyler

(20:47):
Murray is going to be traded in the off sea
and maybe the Cardinals get to point where they just
let him go and eat whatever money they need to eat. However,
now you want to push this forward here, he is
on ir now, so he's got to miss it at least
the next four games, which will take you into December. Today,
Jonathan gann and, head coach of the Cardinals, said it

(21:09):
isn't season ending. Murray's got a chance to return if
his foot gets healthy. Quote, I really do hope that happens.
We got a lot of ball to play one day
at a time. Where he sits right now, he's got
to pour into his health bucket and get ready to
get healthy. I will give you this Bowl prediction right now,
Kyler Murray has played his final game for the Arizona Cardinals.

(21:30):
Because you know, you can see you and see the
writing on the wall. You can see they know they
have to move on from him, right, they're knowing this,
seeing Brissette play Monday night against Dallas and really like
Dallas defense, but still seeing him do this, you know
we're moving on. You want to be able to trade him.
You don't have to just cut and move on. And
if he's not healthy, that's going to be really, really

(21:52):
difficult to do. You put him out there and a
guy that's had a trouble staying healthy late in the season,
he gets hurt in December. What if he's not healthy
in March. Teams are gonna say, yeah, I like Kyler Murray,
but man, there's like seven quarterbacks. We can go in
the first round and we can get Garrett Knutsmeyer at seventeen.
You know, we can get Ty Simpson at twenty two.
Whatever it's going to be. I think I kind of

(22:14):
like that and said it's a little bit too much
of a gamble for me. So he's got to be
healthy at the end of the number one thing for
the Cardinals. He's got to be healthy at the end
of the season. So it's pretty easy, quite honestly. You
have a quarterback that the team is playing better with,
so you leave him in there. If you get to
December and you're still in the thick of it, he
gets to stay the quarterback. If you're not, he still

(22:37):
stays the quarterback because he's the backup. And Kyler Murray's
got to stay healthy. Eye this bolt, He's played his
last down for the Arizona Cardinals. Yeah, I don't think
there's any way you bring him back at this point.
Foot injuries like the nebulous back thing, where you can
drag that out as long as you want, and that
is always what has made Kyler Murray special is his
ability to scramble, to improvise, and to make plays that

(23:00):
not yield great success with his other teammates. This year,
in trying to do that when he was still at
one hundred percent, Marvin Harrison Junior was reduced to a
bystander and usually didn't really anticipate the ball finding him,
which is why you had some of the drops issues
where it just there was no connection. Marvin Harrison Junior

(23:21):
is right now the happiest guy in the world. Why
he was the game plan for this week and he's
got a guy that delivers the ball on time. Guess
what he gets what he wants because he's the guy
you're moving forward with Gannon. Also, he's like Tua. I
don't want him in front of a microphone. He sounds
like an idiot every time he gets in front of
a microphone. Yeah, but you can't, but you can't restrict coaching.
But he did that for He's done four or five

(23:43):
interviews and his story has changed. You sit down with
whoever your trainer is, sit down with a PR person
and get your story right and stick to the speaking. Cardinals.
Come on, man, They're lucky that every week they can
actually get the cameras working. I was so hopeful this
year that they were finally going to take a step forward.
And every raft defense they did all that stuff for Harrison.

(24:04):
Here we go. Connor gets hurt every fine they got
trade back. Oh no, he gets hurt now he got
De Mercado and cast of thousand banana the tailpipe every
year with the Cardinals. Every year with the Cardinals, and
they're in the division where there there is no ability
to uh slip. No, because because every team is much better.
Even the forty nine ers, who I think are absolutely overrated,

(24:26):
I'm not gonna believe in them. Even they are much better.
They're good enough on any given Sunday to come and
get you. Yeah, and if they get healthy, but they're
they're a problem. But for the Cardinals with with Kyler Murray,
you know, look, the Jets gave Justin Fields two years,
forty million dollars and the tail yea Mendoza next year.

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I mean, you keep going down like you keep going down,
no fire. I'm like, I like the physical to us.
He's also a guy that helped get Brian Kelly fire.
So but unless that was the plan, you never know. Checkers,
but you're doing chess. He was playing chess for the
rest of his year before becoming a potential top pick
in the draft. I like the cut of your jib.

(25:09):
But for Kyler Murray, we've seen him play well in spurts.
Can't stay healthy. That has been the knock forever and
now you have all this nebulous stuff. I only have
joke about the Cardinals. They should be writing a giant
ass check for the way they've handled this, because this
has been like if Lamar Jackson. I mean, because that
was ham handed the thing against the Bears before you

(25:30):
saw Snoop un Lee out there. This is one hundred
times worse what they've done because they're fumbling over their
words and how they're going, Oh, now we're gonna put
them on ir Yeah, Like wait a minute, Thursday or Friday,
he was probably gonna start for Monday's game. And between
then and now, what happened? What did I miss?

Speaker 4 (25:49):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (25:50):
They played well against the Dallas defense, and suddenly you
have great confidence in Jacoby Brissett for the rest of
this year. Ham handed Now meanwhile, outside of the okay,
it's almost a ham season. He has played his last
down for the Cardinals. Good run. The Colts are hoping

(26:10):
to get Sauce Gardener to make his debut this week
they play Overseas. Uh, not sure yet because he was
in concussion protocol and when the team had to buy
you don't need to go through all the different qualifications
to get back. So they're hoping to get him back.
Shane Sikin said, that's the plan. They're hoping to get
him back this weekend when they play London, and they
can't wait to unwrap him and all the and I

(26:32):
get it, and let me just say this, just wait,
you'll see. You'll see you have an expectation for a
Sauce Gardener that is through the roof that you're gonna
throw him out there, and Drake Lennon's gonna say, please stop,
I can't even get open and cats a bath. You'll see,
You'll see he's not the same guy. You're gonna put
him in zone coverage. That's great. You traded for a guy.

(26:54):
You're gonna give him thirty five million dollars years. We
can play a cornerback in zone coverage. Okay, everybody thinks
you're getting the Sauce Gardener that was four years ago.
Sauce Gardener. He is not that guy. And you and
I talked about some of the metrics that have been
out there for him the last couple of days where
he ranks at the top of the NFL, and I'm like,
you gotta be kidding me, man, that's not the case.

(27:16):
You see what the quarterback rating is when they're targeting
Sauce guarded quarterback ratings are over one fifteen. Like this
is trust me. I've seen every snap the guy's played.
He's not the guy he was last year, who was
not the guy who was the year before that, who
is not nearly the guy he was as a rookie
right now. A lot of it is We talked about
the rule change the hand, the hand responsibilities that you
can't get away with anymore. That has always whistled. It's

(27:39):
not all on him. It's a different way they call
the game, and that really screwed him. But you think
you're getting this guy that's gonna come in and say
I got everything? Yeah, just wait. Just just remember saying it.
This is not me being bitter Jets fan. I'm just
saying just wait. You think you're getting one thing with
Sauce Gardener and you're not. You're getting something else. Just wait.
Lua Anna Rumo is ready to make magic just way

(28:01):
in Germany this week. How about that? So go get
yourself a nice big stein Indianapolis six and a half
point favorite. Uh, we'll see if he gets the matched
up with Drake London a bunch because right now they
got nobody else that scares you out of it except Robinson Nijean.
You're staying him out of the backfield. But that's not
what I do. But he's their best player. The rest

(28:23):
of their receivers still on the side of Milkirk. You
cover Kyle Pitts. Do we still need to cover Kyle Pitts?
The breakout is not happening. Okay, we're not gay. Is
Morooney actually gonna play this week? I mean, it's not
gonna be crazy because Sauce Gardner. Yes, it's not a
it's not a great day. It's not It's not a
great day for a matchup against a team with with
with tons of great offensive options where we have to

(28:46):
stop this guy outside of Robinson. But they're gonna expect
one thing out of Sauce Gardener and it's not gonna
be there, and the Colts are gonna go, huh, that's
not what I thought was gonna happen. That's not it's
not the guy we thought We're gonna bring it. Chut.
Just watch just one Robinson London and a lot of
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(29:08):
Time out to find out what's trending in the wide
world of sports. Of someone who dressed as Philly Karen
for Halloween. It's Monty Belanga's that's right.

Speaker 4 (29:15):
I did. Thanks to you, Jason for giving me the
suggestion on a late notice.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
That's what I'm here for you. Yeah, and we.

Speaker 4 (29:23):
Had other ideas that we watch sharing case, you know, maybe.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
I'd decide to still do it.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Okay, but yeah, we talked about.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
It and you really inspired me, so thank you.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
It came out. How come you're not wearing the wig anymore?
I think you would still wear the wig.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
You know.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
I like my hair.

Speaker 4 (29:37):
I like my long hair, and I like my darker hair.
And I really was scaring people. People legit thought I
like snuck into this studio and they were going to
introduce my, introduce themselves to me, or escort me out
the building.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
Wow, that's how much they didn't recognize me. Okay, Martin
couldn't even do the show. Well, he just kept staring
at me. I will say, when I saw you post
a picture of yourself as Philly Carro and I knew
it was you.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
You and I talked about it.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
Yeah, so is that why you knew? But well, it
also still looked like you it kind of. I mean,
you didn't do anything to alter the face. Yeah, I
am with you.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
I am just telling you. Most people's reaction.

Speaker 4 (30:15):
Was that I did not look like myself at all.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
I will say this though, that is impressive because generally
folks can wander around here and nobody says it word.

Speaker 4 (30:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
They just assume they're working on another show or something.
I was like, I don't know. So the fact that
they actually so, yeah, I had a question for a
minute was good. Yeah, that's right, that's right.

Speaker 4 (30:33):
We'll start in the NBA fellas, where all the threes
are falling for the Spurs. Really, they've already hit four
in the first quarter, while the Lakers are one of eight.
So the Spurs have a twenty three to eighteen lead
late in the first but Luka Danciic eight points so far,
no Austin reeves for LA in this one. Nikola Jokich,
of course, almost to a triple double twenty one points,
eight rebounds, and eleven assists, and we're only halfway through

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the third quarter where their Nuggets are leading the eighty
two to seventy five down to the final four minutes
in Dallas, as the Pelicans are on top of the
Mavericks ninety four to eighty eight. Cooper Flag has sixteen
points and eight rebounds. Klayt Thompson came off the bench
for this one in Dallas, the Thunder on top of
the Blazers right now thirty six to sixteen, late in
the first quarter, Kings losing at home to the Warriors

(31:16):
after the first quarter thirty two to twenty five, and
the Warriors are playing without Jimmy Butler and without Steph Curry.
The games that have wrapped up Cavaliers over the seventy
six ers, Pistons over the Jazz. The Nets get their
first win of the season. They outscore the Pacers win
twelve to one oh three. Celtics cruise past the Wizards,
won thirty six to one oh seven. Rockets defeated the
Grizzlies won twenty four to one oh nine. John Rant

(31:38):
seventeen points in the loss, and the Knicks came alive
in the second half and took over beat the Timberwolves
one thirty seven to one fourteen. When it comes to
the NHL, the Flames right now on top of the
Blue Jackets two to one after the first period, and
another historic milestone for Alexovechkin. He has reached nine hundred
career goals as the Capitals crushed the Blues already six
to one.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
A little NFL for you, quarterback, You guys just talked
about it.

Speaker 4 (32:01):
Kyler Murray on ir because of his foot injury Texans
r quarterbacks CJ shout out for Week ten against Jacksonville
because of his concussion. Davis Mills will get the start
on Sunday and forty nine Ers quarterback Brock Party limited
in practice. Once again.

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Speaker 3 (34:03):
Nine one hundred guys for Alexander next ten.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
The nine one hundred club has its first paper. So
there it is Capital's radio network on the call. Yes,
the first person to hit the nine hundred goal mark
in NHL history, Alexovichkin, of course very publicly broke the
record broke Wayne Gretzky's record last year against the Islanders,

(34:30):
came into this year with eight hundred and ninety seven. Now,
this is this is a great debate, and I love
this topic because we we we talk a lot about
when's the next time we're getting a three hundred game
winner in Major League Baseball? When's the next three thousand
hit member we're gonna get if we're ever gonna get
one again? Like, Okay, we've seen that. I've seen guys
get the three thousand HiT's. I've seen guys get the

(34:50):
three hundred wins. I've seen that, But this is something
we've never seen. Every goal Alex Ovechkin scores continues to
improve his record nine hundred goals. He is forty years
old in the final year of his contract. A thousand
would really be something, big fat number, right, the one
thousand goals. Now here's the thing. Coming off of last year,

(35:15):
I said, yeah, he'll get there. It's a little over
two years because he scored forty four goals last year. Yeah. Now,
the run to get to Gretzky's record, I'm sure help
him a little bit. So when you're thirty nine years
old and you score forty four goals. Okay, I got
to think in a couple of years, you're gonna get there.
But thirteen games so far this year, that's just the

(35:37):
third goal of the year for Alex Novechkin, and he's
got to get to at least nine to thirty. You
want to say, if he thinks about saying, I'll continue
to do it. But even then you have to think
you're two full seasons away from getting there. So I thought,
coming into this year, I'm like, Okay, he'll score forty
four goals, He'll finish at nine thirty five nine, and

(36:00):
then go, hey man, nine to forty. I can see
one thousand, right, I can see it. I'll come back
for another year. I'm gonna score thirty or forty goals.
Then let's say I really slow down my final year,
I only score twenty. I'll get to one thousand, right,
because because I have carte blanche to play for the
Capitol as long as I want, As long as I'm
not making big drastic demands and salary wise, they'll let

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me stay. But now a thousand seems so far away.
I thought for sure the end of last year he
was gonna get it. But when you get to be
forty and you start out and you have three goals
in thirteen games, that's not a big That doesn't pour
ten that I think you can get there, because look,
father time catches up with you all at once. So
by the time, doesn't just I'm gaining on gaining it. No,

(36:46):
father time just grabs you from behind and pulls you down, right,
That's what happens. So that like the big DK Metcalf
Buda Baker play from from like four years ago, that's
what father time does. And now three and thirteen games,
he's got to go on absolute heater. And even like
I said, even if he gets another thirty this year
in his last fifty games, fifty five, that's not close enough.

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I thought for certain he was there. Now that this
thirteen game star tells me, yeah, man, he's not gonna
and this is gonna be his last year in life.
Comes at you fast, man. You know you look at
three and thirteen games. I really thought we were gonna
go back to last night when Drew Dowdy uh set
the team record for the Kings for most goals by
a defenseman, passing Rob Blake with one hundred and sixty two.

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Congratulations Drew Dowdy. But I mean, we look at this,
getting to nine hundred, this this is gonna stand seemingly forever.
I mean, your next guy's on the list that are active.
Sid the kid has six hundred and thirty four. He's
thirty eight, right, and then you go to Stamcoast and
then it's a drop to you know, the guys that
are just getting underway. So maybe whatever, But we talk

(37:52):
about salaries, we talk about you know, all the other
considerations of trying to have this longevity and the game
changing as they all do and evolve. But for for
a Vechkin, it's it's a hell of a run. Like
I just remember him first coming out to the scene.
It seems like yesterday. So you blink and all of

(38:12):
a sudden, he's a forty year old guy, uh slogging,
blogging away. The impressive thing is he's done this, you know,
even with the scoring drought, he got to this mark.
It's only fourteen games more than what Gretzky played in
his career. So I mean, you talk about parallels and
running it together, but nine hundred nice even number. I'm out,

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but yeah, you know, but here's the thing, though, is
that that's why this is so cool, because this goes
this goes way past hockey and that when you think
of the big records in the history of sports, you
think about okay, uh, you think of Emmitt Smith's rushing record.
I don't know at the top of my head with
the exact numbers. I don't think anybody does. I don't
think Emtt Smith does. What the exact number of his
rushing records? Does? You think about the home runs? Barry

(38:54):
Bond seven sixty two? Okay? You know, Hank Aaron seven
fifty five. That was always we had that, we had sight, right,
Babe Ruth at seven fourteen, like those were numbers that
were you had forever. There's only a handful of numbers
in sports that you can reside and you hear that
number and you off top you that's how many home
runs for this guy? That's this, that's this Ted Williams

(39:15):
four h six, right, you know for two? This is sure.
This is a it's a it's a crazy thing to
think that hockey, this would be the number one most
well known red Yeah. Thousand goals thousand, yeah. Alixevetchkin a
thousand goals in AHL is three one thousand goals, one
thousand goals. It would be, it would it would break.

(39:36):
It would be bigger than home runs, be bigger than
than rushing yards, bigger than touchdowns. Whatever you want to say,
wins for a coach in NFL history, whatever number you
could say, A thousand goals. Yeah, that that cuts through everything,
and that would be the number one record people would know.
People our age growing up would know that record. Gen
Z would know up knowing that record, knowing it's a
thousand goals for a guy, it's nice. It's the biggest

(39:58):
even round number you could think of that someone can
get to. It's a thousand and instead it doesn't look
like he's gonna get there. It's sad. No, yeah means sad. Look,
you never know. He could go on a little bit
of a tear and not looking ahead on the schedule.
But as we talk about, you know, you're forty years old,
you're already in rarefied air, still skating at the point,
obviously I mentioned Pete Rose, you get to your record

(40:21):
forty two fifty six, which he probably inscribed nine hundred
billion times before he passed. But for Ovechkin, yeah, it
would be nice. To get to a thousand, But yeah,
that looks like a very difficult task at this point.
It looks so close at the end of last year,
and now now it looks so far away. We were
chronicling at the end of last season. Yeah, it's great.

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(41:30):
tomorrow Thursday night football. We've made it to another week
in the NFL. Week ten is here and it's the
Raiders and the Broncos. Yeah. I would love to find
a world to pick the Raiders in, but I can't.
I don't think there's a world. I don't think there's
an MCU world when you can travel to with Doctor
Strange where you would find one where the Raiders beat
the Broncos tomorrow night. Yeah, No, it's that's really I

(41:52):
don't think you find one. Trying to figure out every
bit of the calculation. Look, the Denver offense has been
fits and starts right and not not exactly a smooth
running operation. But outside of Max Crosby, I haven't cloned him. No,
I know Tom Brady's partial owner at all, but I
don't think it's transcended to hey, we got eleven of

(42:12):
this guy. So can you imagine eleven Max Crosby is
running around on the field. That's a lot of tattoos
that is That would be absolute chaos, man, that would
be Wow, You're gonna have to differentiate them by you know,
special tattoos. It would look like a pollock painting, just
all the different colors everywhere all the day, and they
would still lose it. But it would be fun to

(42:35):
watch though. It be fun to see Max Crosby. So
let's do this, let's preview and pick some other things
that's gonna go along with this big Bronco victory. I
will tell you this tomorrow night. Give me three interceptions
for Gino Smith. Three? Three? Interesting. Now he's coming off
a hot game, right, coming off a hot game through

(42:56):
four touchdowns.

Speaker 3 (42:57):
Ok.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
Great, this is the best defense in the NFL. Give
me three interceptions by Geno Smith. In fact, I'll give
you this three interceptions and one within the first five
passes he throws tomorrow night. One of the first five
passes he throws, Patrick doesn't it doesn't matter, It doesn't matter, Steve,
that water will get him at least once. Wow, I'll

(43:19):
get you like that's old score r wow, a hat trick.
Three picks for Gino Smith tomorrow night. One that may
we see eight and O'Connell in the first Oh no, no,
you probably see him the whole game. Are all three
pick sixes?

Speaker 3 (43:33):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (43:33):
Okay, okay, wow, now we're talking one within the first
five passes he throws. One is a pick six? All right?
So defense special teams uh plus four forty for a touchdown. Okay,
all right for the Denver. Can I can I get
onto one of the first five throws interceptions? Yeah, no,
I don't have that specifically. I think you'd have to

(43:55):
contact your book. Oh damn, man, hey, can you create
a prop bet just for me? What do you got?
First five, first five? No, that's a great program for
kids to learn how to read and get ready. But no, no, no, no,
first five pick pick six, first five throws by Gino Smith.
One of them is going the other one pretty impressive.
Why is going the other way? I love that. I

(44:15):
think that's minus two fifteen. It's okay, wow, okay, so
I gotta I gotta get I gotta little more. Okay.
And one of them is a tipped interception. Yeah, I
mean the over for his interception is minus one eighty two.
Oh damn, I was close. I mean that's not a
pick six, but I mean to throw an interception at

(44:37):
some point in the game three two. This is like
in Ocean's eleven. No, no, I want to rob three casinos. No,
not one interception. Three interception. The minus one eighty two
implies a six sixty six percent chance. Yeah, that's happening
tomorrow best defense in the NFL, Gino Smith, Absolutely, that's happening. Absolutely,

(44:58):
Gino now denver total points in this game. I will
go over forty. Over forty for the game is forty three. Yeah,
so they win forty three nothing, so forty three. I
will go over forty for the Broncos, right, number one.
You've watched this offense. But no, but it is a

(45:20):
different offense at home and on the road. Sure, they
score tons of points at home, they don't on the road.
This game is at home. It's a Thursday night. The
Raiders are terrible, they score a lot of points. Bo
Nicks will light it up. You will see tons of
point totals across the board for the Broncos tomorrow night.
Lots of guys in play Fantasy. I got a big
Fantasy bull prediction forty a minute two. But there's lots

(45:42):
of guys across the board. Maybe it's Courtland Sutton with
the big night, maybe it's Franklin, maybe they both catch.
But I will go over forty points for the Broncos
tomorrow night. Wow, that's that's Insaneit you like that? Huh?

Speaker 3 (45:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (45:55):
I mean I love the bold proclamation. Of it all.
They score forty four against Dallas a couple of weeks ago, Uh,
thirty three against the Giants, only thirteen against the Jets.
I mean that was overseas, but yeah, you're not at home. Uh.
And then twenty going back to the opener against Tennessee,
different offensive, different offense at home. At this point they

(46:18):
go over forty. They just go up and down the field,
and boy, tomorrow night hol Michael's is gonna say, these
are the games I was afraid of. These are the
games I didn't want to come back for. Right now,
forty three is the total. Kirk, how's your dog doing?
You know, let's just have your dog do the rest
of the game. I see these videos on TikTok all
the time. A dog's doing podcasts, So why why don't

(46:39):
we just don't let your dog come on here and
do some stuff. See now you're hitting the nerve for me.
You know how much I'm tired of Kirk and his
damn dog. But if it was a talking dog like
the pilcarraf Is dog talk, they had dog with a
blow and the dog on the Disney dead Dog. No, no, no, no,
there's not Clay. It's just a new dog. It's just sure.

(46:59):
I think it's the Is it the son of Ben?
Is it Ben? Something like Ben? Ben's deceased. That's starting
right right, had a good run. Men's son. Now I'm
getting I feel like we're doing Star Wars now. I
think it might be Ben's son. I think son, not
Ben's son Robert Gillome, not Ben's son, but son of Ben.
I think it might be son of men Cross. I
might be son of Ben. I'm not sure, but it

(47:21):
might be. It might be a third bull. I'll give
you a big Fantasy ball prediction. Yeah right, So number
one three picks by Gino Smith, one within the first
five throws of the game. One is a pick six
over forty points for the Broncos tomorrow night. Your fantasy
start of the week, your spots started. I might have
to give me a fifteen point PPR game for r J.

(47:44):
Harvey starting to get a few more carries been a
big part of their game, plus the fact that he's
been their red zone guy. For sure, in a short week,
you're not gonna overload, You're gonna try to spread things
out little bit. He's gonna get a little bit more carries.
Dobbins is not going to get all He's going to
start getting a little bit of a work. He's going
to get in the end zone at least once catch
a couple of passes. Give me a fifteen point fantasy

(48:07):
night for our guy. Yeah. I mean he's only plus
two ten for the anytime touchdowns, so given his red
zone proclivities of late, certainly an opportunist there and JK Dobbins,
they've got to be judicious with his work clip given
his history. Yeah, and also the lady you're getting the season,
and I'm sure that's probably the plan at some point
it was we're dividing up responsibily a little bit more.

(48:30):
We don't want to burn out a running young running
back early. We know he's good, but it's going to
be a little while before we get him in midway
part of the season. Now we start getting back and
they've trusted him in the passing game the last couple
of weeks even more so so they trust that he's
not going to get Bonix killed, which is always a
nice plus for a rookie running back. That's usually what
keeps them off the field early on. But for Dobbins, yeah,

(48:53):
you push it back. If it plays to script, then yeah,
that fifteen is definitely doable. What can I get on
the plot? What do you think the odd are going
to that? Parlay the Gino Smith part of it, the
over forty points and the fifteen fantasy points PPR full
point PPR. Take the Gino stuff out, you'd probably do well.
You're why the g But the Geno's in science, He's
going to do it. Oh, so you think the odds

(49:13):
are two, three and three? I in ts three I
t's is a three one pick six one and one
within the first five Send along Deferman. Success is here again.
Smith will give you any odds you want on that.
I'll give you whatever you want on that, Harvey, I
need more specifics to I don't think the fantasy point
we need to translate that into actual stats. But yeah,
we'll make it work. Exit up about a Fresco exit

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