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November 7, 2025 • 43 mins

Jason Smith and Mike Harmon break down the Thursday night football game in all its mediocre glory, the next upcoming teams to look out for, and a new wave of super stardom in the NBA!

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This is a load of crap right now. What we're watching?
It's an APPA? How the hell are the Raiders and
Broncos tied at seven? How are the Raiders tied in
this game? How is that that? I can boil it
all down to one word. This is so the Broncos
stink day stace. This makes absolutely no. Hunter stinks. The

(01:17):
offense had forty four yards and for one drive made
it a tie. And that's the other thing, because the
Raiders stink. It's a tie game. Yeah. Look, and I'm
not upset because you know the big bull prediction made
last night, I said Gino's gonna throw three picks, including
one in the first five throws of the game. The
Broncos are gonna score forty points because their offense is
better at home. I'm not upset about that because a

(01:40):
little bit. I'm not the only way now, but I'm
not the two where Broncos are gonna win. I mean,
they were nine and a half point favorites. Yeah, but
this is the point now, is that I'm I'm just
upset that and I'm more embarrassed for the Broncos that
I am happy that we have a close game on
Thursday night. Wow. I mean, I'm excited because it's close
me instead of Gift. I should be more excited that

(02:02):
it's close, But instead, I'm just mad that that the
Raiders and Broncos are tough like this. This shouldn't be taught.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
The Raiders are terrible.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
But that's the thing we've talked about these Broncos. And
while the final final stuff looks pretty right, you have
a quarter here, a quarter there, and you put up
some points, the overall sixty minute effort is highly inconsistent.
Yeah right, and and there are parts of this. Look
they may still score forty. You have no idea what's
what's still to come? But then in this game, because

(02:30):
it is after all, yeah the Raiders. Yeah, but they're
playing at home on a Thursday night. They look great though.
The uniforms look great. That that's the only passing part
now is you can say, boy, the Broncos stink tonight,
But Bob, they look great in those you know, I'm
thinking about Craig Borton, I'm thinking about hell Way. Oh
that's like that the Seinnful episode when you know George

(02:50):
designed the uniforms for the Yankees. Boy, the Yankees losing
six to one, but boy, they sure look comfortable in
those uniforms. They look around like, hey, they look great
in those uniforms. Like that orange, like that that really
like this these throwback Tom Jackson, John Elway, early Ara
Broncos unis are great, but good for you, they stink
inside them, recognizing the greatness that is Tom Jackson. I

(03:11):
think they need to go back and look at his career.
He had a fantastic rul. But yeah, this is game
two seventy right now. I mean if I'm just like
throwing a dart at the board of my two seventy
two in terms of celebration, because this is this has
been terrible. There's been three plays and misadventures. The punter
for for Denver has been awful. Uh, and then they

(03:33):
keep citing the wind. I'm like, forget about the wind.
He's hitting it off the side of the foot. Yeah,
the wind doesn't have anything to do unless you're it's
that powerful. It could be that in that two yards
he's dropping it onto his foot that suddenly there's just
that ninety five mile an hour gust. That's, you know,
taking him through a wind tunnel. Hey, hey, you guys

(03:54):
went to the super Bowl in part because Sean Landetta
whiffed on a punt in the playoffs he stats gold Locke. Yeah,
but those were those were like hurricane gusts. Here, I'm
looking at everything weather wise talking about is like, I
don't see anything stronger than eight miles an hour, which
is nothing. That's a that's a little breeze. But what
if the breeze, what if it was all centralized and

(04:14):
localized to his foots? What if it's Drew Brees, What
if it's what if the breeze? What if it's like
a like a dust devil and starts the middle of
the field, Like I like that the dust If that happens,
not not the vacuum cleaner, no, but the actual dirt devil. Yeah,
no dirt levels. But you know what welcome wants one
one and never and never got it. From time out
for trivia he won, He won a dirt devel. He

(04:36):
was supposed to weigh. He won a bunch of prizes
answering trivia questions. We're all sitting around. It's funny as hell.
Todd Donahoe is the host, you know, going all the
way back and it was one of the early call
in shows. He gets on and he wins a metal detector,
He wins the dirt Devil and a couple other things.
The only thing that showed up was the metal detect.
Want a metal detect So he was walking around on

(04:57):
the beach just you know. They bought a house on
a river and he would go find some cool stuff
Oh that's nice as well. I found an engagement ring
money clips. You never know what you're gonna fight on.
I never know what actually an adventure. Yeah, so seven
to seven, middle of the third quarter and Gino Smith.

(05:17):
Maybe we spurred Gino Smith on because I will he
did have four touchdowns a week ago. I will take
credit for last night saying he's gonna throw three picks,
one's going to be, one's gonna be a pick six,
one's gonna be within the.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
First five throws.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
And he's been acceptable so far, meaning he hasn't thrown
a pick. He hasn't been the four touchdown guy a
last week, but he's been acceptable. Maybe throwing that out there,
I got that out of Geno Smith now, so you're welcome,
Raiders Nation. Well, one of the things that's been really
uh pressing here for for Gino Smith, and we talked
about it a bunch last night. While you're down a

(05:52):
top notch cover corner in certain you do have one
of the greatest pass rushes going in the game. We're
talking record setting through this point in the season. Historically
they're already talking about eighty four bears. You want to
go back that way. He's taken five sacks, but that
means that's five times he did not put the ball
in harm's way. Yeah, maybe they could have been two

(06:13):
or three in second that could have happened, but that's
just it, and so instead he ate it. So he
did the right thing, you know, and to think that
the Bronco Look, it doesn't make any sense that the
Broncos are here, right, it doesn't. It really doesn't make
any sense that they're struggling tonight with the Raiders after
some of the performances they have put together so far

(06:34):
this season. Now we're at the midway point of the
year now, right, so we're in week nine, and this
should have been the moment where the great teams, the
ones that are showing you we are far and away
the top of the NFL. Right, yes, there's a lot
of contenders, but usually get a couple of teams in
each conference that separate themselves a little bit, that show you, hey,

(06:58):
these first eight ten weeks, you know what, we're really good.
We're really good. And yeah, we're gonna lose a game
or two the rest of the way because you know,
you can't win every week, and maybe it's a matchup,
maybe it's an injury or something. But usually you get
a couple of teams that are separated themselves. That's the
unique thing about this NFL season. Not one team has
separated themselves where you could say they are the overwhelming

(07:20):
favorite to go to the super Bowl. They're one of
the top two teams in the conference, and boy, I
expect to see them in the conference title game. Right,
you go, division by division, the Bills and the Patriots
leading the AFC East. Right. The Bills not quite what
we thought they'd be. They they've shown that they are
much more fallible than we thought. The Patriots have played
nobody right. Their schedule, it's the easiest schedule in the

(07:42):
NFL and five final. They play a good team on Sunday,
but everybody they play stinks. And they haven't even played
the Jets yet. Okay, So is that what makes it
hurt so much? Easy? I can see how much this
wounds you because they're walking through this schedule. They haven't
played the Jets yet. No, and you just had a
half of fires. It doesn't shut down halfway through now, Listen.
It doesn't bother me that they're winning. It bothers me that,

(08:04):
look how good the Patriots are. Look how great vrabel
Is looked at that. Drake May is an MVP candidate.
He's playing a bunch of stiff teams. Haven't played anybody good.
They played the Bills once. Okay, that's but it's not
like the schedule gets harder than but they've got you
gotta beat who's on the schedule right now. It's the
same thing for me. But don't tell but don't sit
here and tell me how great they are because they

(08:25):
they're beating a bunch of stiff teams. That's the thing
about the payo. Oh, Drake May is Yeah, I think
I'd put these numbers up against team, and I can't
throw the ball more than twenty five yard. The duke
is a really hard way.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
But you go there.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
The Steelers they stink, They don't do anything well, yet
they're at the top of the division. Okay, in the South,
the Colts are good. Does anybody believe in the Colts. No,
it's not a team that we think, oh, they're gonna
go all the way. Look at the AFC West, you
had a lot of talented teams, Broncos up at the top. Yeah,
they got problems obviously, because here they are. They've lost
a couple of games and nearly lost a game to
the Giants. He to score thirty points in the fourth quarter,

(09:01):
and they're tied with the Raiders. You go to the
NFC East and the Eagles have issues, still figuring out
who they are offensively. In the NFC North, the Lions,
we thought they would jump in and be great all
the way through, but they have shown you we will
starb bar tow all the way through the South, we
thought Tampa Bay might be really good, but no, they've
hit the skids last couple weeks. Now they're coming off
the buy. In the NFC West, you want to say

(09:22):
the Rams maybe, but the Rams have shown you, hey,
we can lose. This is not every week where we're
beating teams forty one seventeen. This is usually we get
like there's at least three teams right now in the
NFL that we can say, hey, they're really good. They
are the elite. Right, even the Chiefs. Everyone's pointed to.
Chiefs are one game over five hundred. They lost last week. Right,
the Chiefs have problems. Everybody's got problems. There's not one

(09:44):
team or again, you'd think there would be at least
three that you could say they're great, they're at the top.
This is who right now the favorites are to get
to the super Bowl. Instead, it's everybody has issues. The
best teams have issues. This is a wide open sea
in one of the more wide open seasons I can remember.
And it's like college football. The NFL the same thing,

(10:04):
absolutely wide open. Everybody's even if the Broncos win this game,
I'm not gonna walk around and say see how great
they are. No, they held the Raiders up for three
and a half quarters before they found it. Why not
winning a game like I can't remember where there's not
been that favorite because normally it's the Chiefs are this
good and the Eagles are this good, or before them,
the Patriots were this good, the Steelers were this good,

(10:25):
the forty nine Ers were this good. But this year, nobody, nobody.
You can say, yeah, they can beat anybody any given
Sunday on a field right now, you cannot say that
about any team in the NFL. This is great for
business and certainly for us for the second half. Look,
if you're a fan out there of a team that's
in a quasi contender status and you've ever thought, oh,
maybe if things break our way, you know, I would

(10:45):
go to the Super Bowl city. Go book yourself a
room somewhere in the larger Santa Clara area, because right
now you have no idea how this is gonna break out.
Right Which teams are healthy? You talk about Tampa, can
they keep anybody on the field, and it's Baker Mayfield
every week and see like he's being introduced to some
new guys to either run the ball or catch it.
You talk about these Broncos, well, last week, great game

(11:08):
against Houston. Not aesthetically pleasing unless you just love to
watch you a chess match where one little thing is
going to make a game eighteen fifteen isn't something that's
jumping off the pages and the highlight reels. But it
was good fun of you win that one. They're on
this six game winning streak. But you got Cincinnati the
Giants where they needed to comeback. A beat down of

(11:28):
the Cowboys. I beat a lot of teams that, as
you like to say, stink as well. So you beat
who's on the schedule, and you hope that you find
some sense of identity as you go. And certainly for Denver,
they're going to be trading on how far that defense
can take them and hoping to sprinkle a little magic
on bow knicks now and again. But yeah, your point's

(11:49):
well taken is that there's nobody that scares you. You
can go team by team and decide which side of
the ball or when we want to add that pesky
special teams thing. That's where the Rams come in, right,
because they've had all sorts of issues and they're kicking
game and secondary they've addressed it to a degree. We'll
see how that holds it for a second half. You know,

(12:09):
you take a team like the Rams and say, okay, well,
if they didn't have special teams, miscues, miss a field
goal at the end, they would have won those games. Yeah,
remember they would have lost the Colts if aDNA Mitchell
all the way through. But that's just it. It's one
play here, one play there in the margin of error
has been diminished, which is the way he wants it. Well,
he gets it, and that's exactly what you did there,

(12:31):
Guns and Roses. Very nice, very nice. Yeah, yeah, full
on Duff McKagan day for me. But as you know
you're watching this game, this just feels like the Broncos
will do just enough to win. It's not pretty, and
you move on and you're left with the same questions
that you had in the second quarter when they could
move the ball, the third quarter as they're sputtering and

(12:53):
trying to get to midfield. Yeah, this is this is
where we're at. NFL twenty twenty five. It's fantastic. You
want to do you a little super Bowl real quick? Sure?
Go ahead, all right, you got the Chiefs are your
favorite five point fifty, because why everybody else is I
don't know. The Bills at plus six hundred. The Lions
are the favorite in the NFC, tied with the Eagles
at eight to one, Rams just behind them eight and

(13:16):
a half. Packers still at nine to one despite their
sputtering offense. I don't know what they are at this point,
Colt set eleven to one, and then your next favorite
the Seattle. Oh there we go, Yes, eleven to one, Yeah, Sam, Sam, Sam,
Sam Sam Sam So yeah, New England and the Chargers

(13:36):
still down there at twenty five. I mean, it's the fruit.
Nobody you can say is really really good. Nobody nobody,
And again, going towards the end, I agree with you.
It's just gonna be boy, How are the Raiders gonna
blow this game? Is it gonna be such Raider esque
fashion or will be just a generic Thursday Night football
They they there's a field goal to win the game,
or they really go full Raiders like that's what I'm

(13:57):
hoping that some hope. But you want to see Geno fold, Yeah,
hope that happens. But is it gonna I mean really,
because you can never take the full memory of his
Jets dumb out of there, because I mean just every
time he's on national television, what do you get in
your timeline? I sure as hell see Gino Smith was
punched in the face today seven at least three or
four times, seven to seven midway through the third quarter

(14:20):
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Speaker 2 (14:25):
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Speaker 1 (14:32):
Well, it might not be Willis Reied limping back into
the game for the Knicks in the NBA Finals, but
that's kind of what we're seeing right now. Gino Smith,
after getting tackled on a scramble for a first down
came out of the game, went into the medical tent,
was checked out, came back out to play, but is
limping a little bit. Not quite sure, but he is

(14:54):
definitively limping. Okay, we'll see how it goes. The Broncos,
proving that hey, we don't want people to think we're
as good as they say we are, have turned the
ball over with seven minutes to go in the fourth quarter.
The Raiders have the football inside Bronco territory. Bo Nicks,
who has had an absolutely craptastic night, gets picked off

(15:17):
on a tip ball that should have been caught. So
now the Raiders take over. After the runback, they are
on the Bronco side of midfield again. Still time left
to go here, but it is a ten to seven
Bronco lead over the Raiders and Gino Smith has limped
back onto the field to take snaps in the shotgun

(15:38):
for the Raiders. He looks so pained the last possession
every time, just walking back into the huddle, It's like,
all right, I'm watching the longest yard. I was like,
all right, I've been beaten, but they're not gonna get me.
I'm so good. Geneo gene oh, gen O gena look
out tough, I'm Willis Reid. And then at the end

(15:58):
of that last possession, it was the long like the
camera had to go to break because he wasn't getting
off the field fast. No, he was not. Well it's no, no, no,
let's just go to commercial. So you moved that. And
then Franklin use your hands, man, Yeah, the ball get
in on the body, ricochet, you get the interception, and
now you got Gino trying to be a hero on

(16:20):
the Denver side of the field here running the ball
inside a six minutes to play down three. It is.
It is a shocking game, to say the least. It's close.
I wish there were more points. I wish Denver was
actually playing better. So I feel like they're embarrassing the
NFL with their effort tonight so far in a ten
to seven game, and bo Nix looks like the guy

(16:42):
at Oregon or at Auburn when I thought this guy's
going to the NFL. But I asked you that off
air last hour. As we're watching, it's like, are we
sure this was the guy that everybody's been selling because
he's had a couple of good quarters man, But overall,
we're talking about rocky, choppy roads. Look, they're still seven
to two, you can't take that away. And they've had
some fantastic series possessions and opportunities for Knicks to shine.

(17:06):
This is one that, at least from all metrics, should
have been a laugher. And in the fourth quarter, all
we're doing is deciding how many yards Dobbins and and
Harvey get and what they're split is at the end
of the game. I know that sometimes Thursday games are weird.
We've seen that. You get a division game, they're weird.

(17:27):
This game should not be this weird. It should not
be it should not be this weird. There's no way
this game should be this weird. Nine and a half
points was the points spread for you here, forty three
the over under No chance we're getting anywhere near that
at this point. But you know, Geno Smith has an
opportunity to go steal this game and create some chaos.
Speaking of chaos, Geno Smith on third and six is rushed.

(17:51):
He throws incomplete, running away from pressure, limping off to
the sideline again favoring his leg. It looks like it
it's gonna be a long field goal for the Raiders
to try to tie this game at ten apiece at
GINO just getting rid of it before getting pushed at
the forty five yard line. So we're gonna get a
long field goal, hooray, which passes for great offense. It's

(18:14):
a long field goal attempt to try to tie this
game at ten. Now, fourth site just got absolutely abused. Now,
Benito's been great, He's been in the backfield a lot, right,
He's had a fantastic season. We're talking a guy who's
already near double digit sacks on the year. Like that
was a no show effort. Get out of your damn stance, man,
Like he walked around him. And because it's the Raiders,

(18:37):
Carlson misses from forty eight yards away a little wide, right.
So the Broncos hold on to lead this game ten
to seven, just under five minutes left to go on
the fourth quarter. Again, we'll have more on this game
because it's an NFL game and it's Thursday night. I mean,
that's kind of what it is, standalone game. It's either that.
I mean, at least these guys showed up kind of
to play.

Speaker 4 (18:58):
Eh.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
As we were talking about the Sun and the Clippers earlier,
kind is even chewing gum? Is it really a game
if he's not running around chewing a gum and shouting
out this This is one of those nights where Adam
Silver goes. We didn't play on Thursday night because of
this game. We could have played some games tonight, even
have to have the Knicks play back to back last night.
We've gotta have some games tonight. But tomorrow is a

(19:20):
cup night, right again, like weirdly painted courts and everything. Yeah, no,
no Cup night tomorrow. We got USC Northwestern. We got
cup night. It's USC Northwestern Cup Night. Oh okay, cup check,
cup check. I'm here to sell sell such now elsewhere

(19:40):
in the NFL. I knew, and we all knew this
story was gonna come back, not to haunt everyone, but
to be something we laugh at. It was just on
Sunday that Bears wide receiver Roma Dunes that you started
out having a great year this year. Uh didn't have
a great game Sunday against the Bengals was held without
a catch, despite the Bears scoring forty seven points in

(20:01):
the game of the week. Right, best game of the
week on Sunday the win over the Bengals. He had
three targets in the game. One went off his hands
in the end zone and not the game we are
accustomed to. And clearly no one knows this better than
Roma Dunesay. Fantasy owners going no points like if they
check your score too late in the day where you're like, oh,
did he get hurt early, and no, he's he's in

(20:23):
the game, they're just not throwing to him. It was
after the game that Roma Dunesay's dad decided I'm mad
that my kid didn't get more than three targets, and
he reposted messages on social media that asked whether the
Bears would train a Doonzay to a team that will
actually throw to him, and another post that declared he
should be getting at least ten targets per game, right,

(20:44):
So these were things that he retweeted or reposted on
social media. Today, Adnezay answered that and answered his dad's
posts by saying, listen, I don't make a big deal
out of it. He's got his opinions. I have mine.
My dad's a big fan of of my I said,
my dad's a big fan of Romadonsay. So you're going
third person and talking about his dad being a fan

(21:05):
of himself is pretty special. But he said, listen, my
dad had his opinions. I have mine. I'm glad he
supports me. Okay, I'm sure there was a conversation with
Roma Dunsay telling dad, what are you doing? What are
you doing? Dad? There's a time to pick And the
thing is is that I understand that you want to

(21:25):
stand up for your kid and sometimes you can't help it.
But you stand up for your kid on a day
when you score ten points and the offense is terrible
and your son only gets three targets. You don't say
we need to be throwing him more. When you're coming
off a forty seven point game. You don't do that.
You don't say, hey, how come my kid? Cause you

(21:45):
seem like just the upset jealous dad going hey, everybody
else had to go why didn't my kids should have
scored more? We scored forty seven points. Dude, there's a
time and a place to say that. But I always
tell you the same thing. There is no time and
place for parents or significant others to go public about
their concerns for their spouses or their family members because

(22:10):
it never reflects well on the athlete. It never does.
There's never been a time where someone in a family,
whether there's a mom or a dad, or a girlfriend
or a husband, who decided, Hey, this is going on
and I'm sorry, I'm sick of it. I'm going to
weigh in on this. There has never been one instance
where that has helped the athlete. All it does is
make things harder for the athlete. May just seem like

(22:32):
they can't find their own they can't fight their own battles,
may just seem like, hey, everything is not in control
in your world. Nothing ever makes them look good. I
don't know how many times we have to see it.
There's very few tenants in sports where blanketly I can
say this is a truth in nineteen ninety five, it
was truth in twenty ten, it's truth now in twenty
twenty five. But family members and significant others getting involved

(22:55):
because they're upset about something going on in that athlete's
career ever reflected well, never, They never looked good. This
was one of my favorite stories of the week for
for a couple of reasons. Okay, DNA didn't catch that
ball in the end zone. It's behind him, but hits
him in the hands, a ball he should probably corral fine,
three targets, fine, but watching the game, it's like that

(23:18):
there's a million things going on. I was like, curious,
you go back and you watch it. Well, the Bears
did it for you. Afterdonsay's dad went public, they went
and found the supercut because he was miked up. They
went and found the supercut of him hyping up his
teammates and the myriad like he had six or seven
key blocks all his block in response. It was one

(23:43):
of the greatest responses by a team, not in front
of a podium, not in front you know, teammates getting
in front of a microphone, none of that stuff, or
Ben Johnson taking up for his guy.

Speaker 4 (23:56):
No, no, no.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
They just put out the super cut of all of
those blocks that broke off huge runs from anong guy,
or got another wide receiver an extra three or four yards,
or sealed an edge to give Caleb more time to throw.
All of those things. It was a great two minute clip.
And it's at the end they should have just had

(24:17):
a guy clap like, I'm a Vegas blackjack dealer, I'm done,
because that was the perfect response to the parrot like
and and for Rome to have to come out and
address it. Today. You know it's it's the tale as
old as time, as you said, true and ninety eighty
go all as long as sports has been around. Right.
I was telling you the other day it was a
guy yelling yeah all day and then the kid got

(24:39):
scored on. Dad wasn't chirping after that. So you know,
you have those kind of moments, and for the bears,
the fact that it comes off of something really positive.
Try to tear it down.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
Man.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
Yeah, I mean had a huge win time and place
and you scored forty seven points, right, lad, he was
having the time of his life. He's like, Dad, look
at this. I want to know is that? What do
you think is gonna happen? Like, I get that you're frustrated.
Maybe you don't get to talk to your kid as
much about it. If he's a listen, everything is fine, Dad,
I understand that, but you have to resist when your

(25:13):
buddies tell you, dude, they got to throw to your
kid more. Man. I know, I know, I know, I
get throw. What do you think you're gonna accomplish by
going on social media? Ben Johnson's gonna go, hey, hey, guys,
let's look guys, let's have a meeting here. I understand. Hey,
so I know, Hey, great great day offense, great day
running the football. We called a great game. The guys
are great. But uh hey, Rome's dad is a little mad.

(25:36):
I can't believe we only throw them the ball three times.
I don't want this to become a thing. Let's make
sure we throw them the football a bunch more. Lea.
He says ten targets a game? Can we get him
ten targets? So his dad, because I really his dad
getting upset, like, we don't want that surrounding the team, Like,
does he think that's what's gonna happen? I really, what
do you think is the is the end all of this?
What's the end of this story for you? How do

(25:58):
you wind up winning? In is? What? Is it? Is
it a public apology from Ben jont Hey, I'm sorry?
Is this other teams in free agency? When Roma Dunes
becomes a free agent, it's well, you know they didn't
use him, right, Hey, just go back. You got to
give my son a thirty million dollar contract because he's
that good. Doesn't matter he didn't catch a lot of passes.
You look at some of these games here when he
should have got the targets he didn't get him. I

(26:19):
got all this, I got all this evidence right here,
he pulls ab out of a briefcase when he's meeting
with the team in free agency. Hey, all this, they
should have got him the ball. More this is he's
clearly a thirty million dollars a year guy like I
don't know, I don't know what the outcome is other
than to make you feel good because you'll feel better
about it. And I get the whole Sometimes being petty

(26:40):
and petulant works, and I'm screening sometimes it doesn't. But
when you're somebody's dad, I think you have to step
back and understand, am I doing what's right by my kid?
Is is this going to help my kid? Instead of Hey,
I feel good about it? Right that? That's kind of
what I would.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
Look back to.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
And I'm still surprised at some one who understands has
lived in the world with their kid, has been a
great athlete their whole life, one of the elite, one
of the top one tenth of one percent athletes in
the world. Uh, when it when it comes to youth football,
and you gotta okay, how is this really helping? How
he's having a really good year. Now the Bears are winning.
What what is this going to accomplish?

Speaker 4 (27:18):
What?

Speaker 1 (27:18):
What is this going to do? He is currently tied
for twenty third most targeted in the National Football League
at over seven and a half a game. It's not ten,
it's not ten. He wants ten. Look and Jamar Chase
is at one hundred and ten eleven point eight game. Well,

(27:39):
that's gonna sling slinging Joe Flacco with a bad defense.
Chris Olave ain't coming in at just over nine? Wait really,
Jackson Smith and Jig but is not the top of that.
I would think for a second he was. He's fourth.
He catches fIF all the past. He's been a fish, right,
he's got He's got a total of seventy seven targets. Uh,
just over nine and a half per game, but he's

(28:01):
catching all of them. He died.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
There's not a lot that hit the ground.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
He gets it done. Yeah, you got Chase, js N
and Drake London are four of your top five. Who's fifth? Oh,
he's third on the list. Garrett Wilson, Christian McCaffrey. Oh okay,
he remember remember before the season said he being used
as a receiver more than a running back. Okay, just
so you know, Mike Harmon, because it's radio, decided to

(28:29):
hoist his cup up like you could see that are
cameras who said that, this is where you say you did.
Why are you hoisting your cup? Well, I don't know
what you're doing because you're hoisting your cup up in
the air or on the radio. I know not there's
three cameras. I'm right there. There is nothing that that's great.
But you you I didn't know what you were was
taking a victory last I don't know did you want

(28:49):
I was taking a cue from you? Did you want
Tyser to come in here and refill your cup with something?
And I actually darson, I think Joe bu needs a refill. Okay,
So yeah, I really there's very few tenets in sports.
That's one of them. You're not gonna help your kid
by saying anything. You're not be fun, be funny, say

(29:10):
fun stuff, support demb bit. That's great, man, But when
when you want to come out and say, yeah, the
other pert is remember what city your kid's playing into?
You think we can't throw this ball more to roma
doonesday when we score forty seven points, when we give
it to a running back. I'd even know he was
on the roster a week ago. That's what we gotta do,

(29:31):
because the assumption becomes that he's going and he's talking
to his old man and he's complaining about his role,
which is everything. I mean, it's completely the opposite and
very easily improvable. But if stuff gets to fester, then
it starts to become a problem and an infection.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio Deliverance.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
Wait wait, wait, no, you wait, why do you mean
that you're Deliverance?

Speaker 4 (30:05):
Oh? No?

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Does what does he say in Shawshank Redemption?

Speaker 4 (30:08):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (30:08):
Salvation liath within Oh okay, you're referencing that baby my salvation?
Is it? Darn Darren Darren, Darren, Darren, dar Darn Darren
during uh? Is that? I struck a deal with Alex Tyshert.
Maybe was a year and a half ago, and I said, okay,
this is the deal. You can play this song on

(30:29):
the show, right, play it on the show. That's fine,
But when the next season begins, we're done playing that
song and you said, okay, so you have. Now I'm
counting down. I'm like, you know, people to kill Billy Madison.
I'm like Steve Bushmi, you're not knocking exes off the list.
You will know as far as you know. No, but
you have to adhere to our agreement. When season four

(30:52):
drops later on this month, no more running up that hill.
It's over. We don't hear that song on the show again. Ever.
Because you need to be a man of your word.
We said no, I had you had three years of
the fast lane.

Speaker 4 (31:06):
Man.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
You have to, but eventually the devil will come for
your soul. Eventually it happens. Eventually the good times endeth
and it ends for you the end of this month,
the day the next season of Stranger Things drops. Before
you respond, Alex, I mean, you're the one that made
the deal. And he said, no, isn't the devil coming
for you? And he agreed to it.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
I didn't agree.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
Look, nobody goes in search of the devil to say, hey,
you got a deal for me. Well, yeah, give you
this fiddle if you beat me, and no, well you
go down to the cross. Great that the devil showing
the devil searches you out like no one goes looking
your Hey, I'm in search of the devil. No, no one,
no business. Now. The devil knows, no one's gonna come
looking for him. The devil knows I gotta go looking

(31:47):
for people, right I I gotta get out there. I can't.
I'm not just something. I'm gonna sit on my throne
in hades and people go, hey, devil, it's me. It's
it's Jason. Listen. I want to win the World Series.
Can help me out. Who's your team? Mets best I
can do as an NLCS. That's it? All right, Fine,
I'll take it. That's great, appreciate it. Thank you. Yeah,
I got a couple of doesn't gonna let him go.

(32:08):
It doesn't matter. So Alex, what say you in terms
of the deal struck during the twenty twenty two campaign?

Speaker 3 (32:16):
Is there evidence?

Speaker 1 (32:18):
Yeah? We have it saved where in the system this is?
You trust? You trusted him that that would still be there.
You trusted him with a piece of sound that would
exonerate you from ever having to hear this again. You
trusted him and you blew it.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
You know you admitted to it.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
I did not, Yes, you did? You admitted to it.
It's right seven seven, it's right here. I got that
you went. Let's love your old kid, It's right here.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
You listen so I can play it for you.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
Okay, let's I play it for a hang on, here
we go. This is a tape from twenty twenty two. Okay, heng,
here we go? Ready, hang on, ed, all right, I'll
let you play this song. But when the new season
of Stranger Things dropped whenever, that is, maybe in three years,
when that new season drops, you need to not play
this song ever again. What do you mean, Jay? What

(33:09):
do you mean? What do you mean? I want to
play it?

Speaker 2 (33:11):
What do you mean?

Speaker 1 (33:12):
All right? Fine? But what do you mean? I understand?
What do you mean? All right? All right, all right,
you're right, you're right, Jay, you're right. We'll do it,
all right, you're right. What do you mean?

Speaker 3 (33:21):
I sounds so young?

Speaker 1 (33:22):
There we go. That's well it was three years ago.
Yeah you're twenty four, right, but yeah, so there you go.
There's the proof I need. Right, Yeah, I called it
up on the I'm impressed. Yeah that's good. I really
think you had that in your arsenal. That was pretty good.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
What are we playing then?

Speaker 1 (33:41):
Uh? Then we go back to Goodbye Horses. Can we
talk silence of the line, We'll talk. What's what's the
next song that Stranger Things tries to get over the
Greatness from Metallica, who embraced it eighty seven eighty eight.
When does this take place this last season?

Speaker 4 (34:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Less he's supposed to stand. No, I know, but like
it's a specific year.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
Is the eighties? Eighties?

Speaker 1 (34:05):
Okay? Yeah, so that could be eighty eight or eighty
nine or eighty nine, eighty nine recording to an AI overview, Okay,
it's the Fall of eighty seven. So we getting guns
and roses? Oh, that would be guns and guns and
Roses is too popular though, although you would have thinked
they would say, hey, we're gonna use Master of Puppets.
Oh no, people are just gonna think about the old
school scene. No, no, no, we're gonna use that. So
Fall of eighty seven was guns and roses. Could get

(34:27):
guns and roses. Welcome to the jungle, Welcome to the
upside down. We got fun in games or walk like
an Egyptian. We been dancing with mister Vecna. He's been
turning things upside down.

Speaker 4 (34:43):
Have the top five songs from eighty seven. You guys
want them top five top let me let you do this?

Speaker 1 (34:48):
He let me do this? Uh xpos No Madonna? Which
one eighty seven would have been, Papa, don't preach? Who's
that girl?

Speaker 3 (35:00):
There's no Madonna. I just wanted to choot a guess.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
Oh man, I thought Who's that girl? Was eighty eight?
Wasn't it that? I thought it was right? Was that
the movie? Yeah? Uh, Sweet Child of Mine? No, well,
that would have been Fall into the Spring, so maybe not. Okay?
Five different artists, okay, wait, hang on, hang on, hang
on with or without you? You too? Yes?

Speaker 3 (35:20):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (35:21):
Uh almost Paradise no American tale too? Five goes West.
Let me say eighty seven? I got with her without
you you two? Hmmm?

Speaker 3 (35:37):
One of these is uh Breeze favorite artists Prince?

Speaker 1 (35:41):
No oh, Michael Jackson bad?

Speaker 2 (35:43):
No?

Speaker 1 (35:44):
No, I was saying one of her favorite artsts. I'm
just like, was Michael Jackson bad? One of them? No?

Speaker 2 (35:49):
No?

Speaker 1 (35:49):
Wow?

Speaker 3 (35:50):
Her favorite artist is bon Jovi. Oh, I'll be there
for you. Living on a Prayer?

Speaker 1 (35:55):
Eighty seven? Living on a Prayer? I thought there was earlier. Okay,
whoa whoa Tommy? Yeah, g yeah, that fits though for
season yea, and you can just play that loop. Tell
me used to live in the upside down. Gina went
to find him. They're dead on there. Look all the
rest of the people are dead. Wow so dead wow

(36:17):
wow oh wow whoa. Al Right, Okay, took us to
a very bad The thing is they went to heavy
metal with with Master of Puppets and do Oh and
Iron Maidens. I think they gotta go metal.

Speaker 3 (36:29):
Let me give you last three.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
Give me the artist. I'll tell you the song.

Speaker 4 (36:32):
Okay, Starship, Oh, nothing gonna stop us now, yep, ye
heart alone, these dreams alone alone, Whitney Houston.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
I want to dance with somebody. Yes, there we go.
Come on man, eighty seven way, I just ripped off
three the top three songs of eighty seven.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
You all you do was give me the artists. I
could have given you entire catalog.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
Man. My knowledge a pretty good of the late eighties
early nineties and bought music is really really good. Trust me,
it's okay. Sports TV the music pop music of the
late eighties early nineties. When I started, when I was
doing the morning show, playing music all the time. Jason,
Oh yeah, I have a there's a very short window
of knowledge of pop music that I have in that
amount of time. It's awesome. I still have a dream

(37:13):
of hosting one of those radio shows where we get
to introduce some of you know, remember the first time
I heard the Whitney Houston record back when she was
a guest on Silver Spoons Joe Gray and Rick Schroeder
on NBC, and I remember they played the Sun, they
played uh, they played the Greatest Love of All and
I remember at the end they held up the album
and I thought I was gonna go out and buy it.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
So here's Whitney Houston very first for you.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
Aaron gra just turned seventy five. Oh. I had the
biggest crush on Aaron Gray when I was a kid,
Like I'm like that. That's where I realized, yep, I
like girls because I like Aaron Gray. I like it,
Buck Rogers and twenty I loved Gray. Oh my goodness.
Not so about Silver Spoons Aaron Gray, but Buck Rogers
big fan. Now we went back earlier this year. We

(37:57):
gave you a big bold prediction that involved the Raiders,
and now it's time to look back at it. Midway
through the season, we talked about how the AFC West
is gonna be the toughest division in football, and so
far it seems that way. We said, now, listen, Denver
is gonna be really good. I'm up on the Chargers.
It's gonna be a tough slog, but the Chiefs are

(38:18):
still really good too. Right, right top to bottom, we
got the AFC AFC West right and the end of
the Big Bowl, prediction for the Raiders was they will
be the best last place team in the NFL. Now
you look at the other last place teams in the NFL,
there's only one you can argue with. Okay, because the
Raiders have played a pretty tough schedule, but their last

(38:40):
place in the AFC West, they play a pretty tough schedule.
They're better than the Tennessee Titans, better than the Browns,
better than the Jets. So already they're the best last
place team in the AFC. Sure, NFC, they're better than
the Giants. Sure they're better than the Saints. Okay, better
than the Cardinals. The only team is Minnesota at four

(39:03):
and four at the bottom of the NFC North, but
they are only a couple of games out of first place.
That's the one thing where I could say yeah, all right,
maybe right now the Raiders in the last place power rankings.
The Raiders right now are second now the time they
have timing it up there, they have timing it up there.
But I got the Vikings and the Cardinals are better.

(39:24):
The Cardinals are a top twelve defense.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
They're terrible.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
They're playing Jacoby Brisset at quarterback. Man, come on, you
want him Gino right now? No, that's a good point
you want. But the fact that the Raiders are this
good while playing Gino I think works better for them
than it does for you for your Cardinals. See this
means the Denver stinks. Let's focus the last place team. No,

(39:48):
I get that, but last place to power Vikings number one,
Raiders number two, That's where I'll go for the the
last place power Right there, they're on the metal stand.
There's no quiet shit about it. I've got them third.
But you know I'm partial too. If the Raiders played
the Cardinals right now, I would like to say the

(40:08):
Raiders Cardinals game would be ten to seven, but that's
what we had to stay with. The Broncos. Raiders Cardinals
might be four to three, where safety starts it out
to nothing. So Gino's taking two safeties. Gino takes a safety,
the Cardinals lead to nothing, Raiders kick a field goal,
although we watched Carlson miss tonight. But and then with

(40:30):
a chance to sault the game away, they fumble the
ball near their own end zone and the Cardinals fall
on it for a safety. And it could be like
one of those four to three kind of games when
you're living on the edge. A forty eight yard field
goal keeps it a ten to seven game. That's really
the score of Gami, the NFL scorer, Gomi. I hope
that would happen at some point. My life is I
want to see a game end four to four. Each

(40:52):
team gets two safeties and they can't do anything in overtime.
Now that would be four to four. That'd be the
best score of Goami. And of course that would be
a game probably would be a Raiders Jets game, or
I mean, it's gotta be a Thursday night football. Have
l L just walk off the set, Oh yeah, yeah, Raiders.
He just says, I'm done. I would say, though, the Raiders, Jets,
Browns between those three teams that were probably playing in

(41:13):
that game, because I mean, obviously we did not have
the benefit of the audio tonight, but I got to
imagine he was fairly incensed. I saw at least several
promos where it was like, here's the Almanac. Oh so
let's go back in the way back machine, because you
don't want to talk about this game. He's really really bad.
It's not even close. Al's like, why do I do
this again? Like this is night where Al goes home

(41:33):
to his wife and goes home and sits there and
at the end and sits it goes, why do I
do this again? Tell me why I got on a
plane on Wednesdays? Tell me why I go do this?
Why go do these games? Why don't tell me why
I go do this? Well? Because, aw, they're paying you
a lot of money, I know, but I've made a
lot of money. Why do tell me why I do
this again? I just see him in a in a
big room with a roaring fireplace and a and like

(41:54):
some sort of like bear skin actual Chicago bears like
rug on the ground, and he's got like a brandy
sniff dr and he's saying, tell me why I do this?
Tell me why I go out and do this? Well,
I think most people have at least one of those
moments a week, all right, a month, okay, where their motivation. Yeah,
but Al is like it's every Thursday. Yeah. No, summer
obviously worse than others, and this one today was tough.

(42:18):
Do you think Al would want a flexible will flex
out games? He was, I get four games a year,
I can flex out of superpower, and then you get
to do that, like what at the end of the
Monday night game, all of a sudden, we beam live.
He's got that brandy. Hey, I'm flexing out. He's got
the brandy, and he's got a fire roaring behind him

(42:38):
like he's the Joker dog, like a bit like a
say Bernard next to him, he's petting it, going, I'm
flexing out of this, and CHRISA. Thompson goes in and
does play by players. Well, no, I'm not saying he
flexes out. He gets to change the game to something
that's more interesting him. No, I think I'd rather see
Al flex flex flex himself out. I would like to
see that. And then he's got a he gets to

(42:59):
pick yeah from a seven or eight people that are
on staff. Shuity, he just decides, all right, you're in
for me. Yeah, okay, can you go talk to Kirk
about it, dog, Yeah, Or or just to see him
actually making the announcement, like on a Monday night at
halftime of the Monday night game, just to see him
flexing out, push his Boomer off the screen like he's
the joker in Batman, like you did to the mayor,

(43:20):
Like my turn, now, Boomer, get out of here. Fastest
three minutes. It's mine and I'm flexing out. You do
the fastest three minutes. I had the longest three and
a half hours. Okay, That's what this game was tonight
for me.
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