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Jason Smith and Mike Harmon reacted to the latest College Football Playoff Selection Committee Rankings. Have the Rams peaked too early? And Jason’s wondering if we've seen the last of J.J. McCarthy for this season. Plus, a special visit from NFL Insider & Hall of Fame voter Jason Cole!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:29):
Greeen eg is Welcome and son Happy Tuesday. Thanks NBC.
We got another hour to wait until Lakers Clippers.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Yay.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Hey, hey, hey, they paid a lot of money to
make that a standalone game. Why the hell are there
only three games? That's a whole other thing. You've already
given up Thursday. You're not even gonna pretend to play
against the NFL. And then you only have three games
on a Tuesday, both two of the three of them
are on Peacock. What the hell are we doing? Yeah,

(00:58):
that's how it goes, silver, That's how I got your
ass up. That's how it goes to wait another hour. Wait,
don't worry, it'll start.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
What a clown show. I mean, I'm glad they're cashing
checks right. The money prints just the same, but seems
to me other than getting well, I forget what the
company is. Giannis is doing national ads, Steph Curry's doing
ads where he's pretty much uh taking shots at every
every one of his contemporaries. That's all finding good, but
nobody can watch your damn games.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
That's the What have I said from the beginning with this?
What have I said from the beginning? And you want
to say, oh, well this is no, no, no, no, I'm
fine with it. We can actually schedule more than three
games in the night. Well, are we giving it up
to lamp ass n c A games in Vegas stuff?
Is that what you're doing? You're packing down on that.
I watched a lot of holiday Vegas basketball the last
couple of times. I'm not saying I did Syracuse and

(01:51):
two in those well, I'm not saying I didn't watch it.
I'm just saying, why are we giving up spots on
a calendar? Well, look, you can't have games every night
any other It's a lot of teams holiday holiday holiday guys.

Speaker 4 (02:04):
I think eight o'clock pm Pacific tip is past Kawhi
Leonards bedtime.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
Oh no, no, he's still he's still out planting trees.
Then it's just the sun is just going down, and
then he's planning tree. Then he comes and plays against
There's something I'm missing. Trees. Yeah, yeah, planning trees. He's
a tree guy hugger. He's a tree hugger, the trees,
the planning, going back. I knew he was a fun guy,
but I didn't know about the trees. No, the whole
thing with him, with the with the trees that he planted,

(02:30):
no idea, what you're talking about, I mean a harden.
The later it gets into the night, the better he is.
Oh my, do you guys, I feel like I'm Kathy
Bates and Missers. Do you have amnesia? The whole Kawhi Leonard,
the whole extra money he was getting because he was
playing the other.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
NBA didn't care about that, So why should we show
Bob Okay side show Bob. That's what we get and
the NBA would have you believed that story never exists?

Speaker 1 (02:56):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. They gave you the neuralizer like black,
I'm like, what are you guys talking about. No, we're
well aware of the story. It just became a non story.
I mean that was like the the epay and show Hey,
that's why issue a year ago. It was two weeks
later it disappeared. It was just a throwaway joke. And

(03:16):
you guys, what are you talking like? Water An? Did
I change planets sometime in the last day if you
just met him, I feel like, what's his name from yesterday?
When he when he finds out? Oh no, what do
you mean? Who's Oasis? Checking? No Oases? All right, there's
no Oasis. I mean that's that's so I feel like
it's happening right now. My good. Sometimes we like to
fund you a little bit. I mean, you know, yeah,

(03:38):
you get your brain on a track and it's like,
how do we throw something in the middle. See if
we can't get you off your track, like you're at Autopia,
No at Disney. But that's okay because now we're a
minute close in the Lakers class. Yeah, so exciting fifty
six minutes.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
I have a fifty said tick tic tic tic tic TikTok.
I mean that's the beginning of the broadcast. I mean
they're not tipping off.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Before we get to the uh, you know, the big
the latest college football playoff poll. Let me just say this, right,
early parts of the NBA season so far. I'll be
honest with you about something.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
It's been.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
It's been nawn at me all day. Maybe because I've
watched my team lose in college basketball the last couple days,
but it's been nown at me all day. Sure, Uh
is that you know we talk a lot about windows
to win a championship in sports, and is this team's
window open? Is this team's window open? And coming into
this year, a team like the Knicks in the East,
their window was wide open to win it, right, obviously,

(04:34):
look at the talent they have on the team and
there and it's wide open to win.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
Some injuries throughout the conference, right, you talk about Indiana.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
We talked a lot about Halliburton yesterday. Caliburton may be
the MVP, he may really be the real MVP of
the NBA.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
But just going team for team, the number of guys
that are missing in action, Trey Young for Atlanta, they're
still above the fold as it were in the playoff
birth what are you getting from mb can Tyrese MAXI
carry them literally for forty eight minutes a night and
going on down the line.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
But the thing that gets me is that you know,
windows open and shut much quicker than you think they are.
And watching a team like the Knicks right seeing teams
like the Celtics, even though they're playing without Jason Tatum,
he's going to be out for a while. But these
teams that we have seen the last few years that
have kind of that have kind of run things the

(05:25):
last few years, that have been the top of conferences
playing well and okay, this year there's a little bit
change at the top. And obvious Oklahoma City is better
than anybody. They can win seventy five games this year.
Who knows. But I look at a team like the
Knicks and I watch them play, and I just say
to myself, boy, they look really slow defensively. It's not
that they're bad defensively, it's that they're slow and younger,

(05:48):
more athletic teams, even teams that aren't very good, are
blowing by them defensively and putting up points. And seeing
teams like Orlando and to an extent, Detroit. We knew
Detroit was gonna be good, but maybe not this good Toronto.
Seeing all these teams that have gone younger and able
to put stuff together, you can really see the difference

(06:10):
in a lot, even the Lakers to an extent, now, hey,
going younger, not relying on Lebron.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
Jay.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Look, it's not Lebron and Ad who are older and injured,
and they don't run the court like they used to.
Seeing the Lakers do it is a different thing. And
I just I just wonder that if for teams like
the Knicks, and I put the Knicks up there because
I see how much they're struggling, especially defensively, they struggle
because teams get to the basket a lot easier on them.
You see, their defensive metrics are bad. Offensively, they don't

(06:35):
go up and down the floor, and every basket is contested,
and that's really difficult after a while. Not suddenly the team,
the teams like them are going to fall off the cliff.
But when when every possession is contested and these other
younger teams are are are doing this to you, it's
gonna wear you down. And the window for teams like
that to win, I don't know that it's not shut.

(06:57):
I mean this is just me you know here, first
first month of this, but seeing those teams that play, hey,
you are getting circles run around you by younger teams,
and other teams that are terrible are still keeping it
close with you all the way through, just because they
are younger and fresher, and maybe you're pulling out some
of these games against against the teams that are that
are inferior, but they're much more difficult than they have

(07:18):
to be. And these teams on the rise that have
a lot of talent that are young again Orlando Detroit,
you know, look at this, even the new look Lakers.
Now you say, Okay, these teams really have a big
advantage and maybe and their window is wide open. I mean,
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I look at
the Knicks the first month of the season. I go,
maybe their window to win a championship is shut. Maybe
they're just gonna be a nice fifty win team because

(07:40):
they'll beat teams as good as them. They'll win most
of their games at home. They'll beat the contenders now
and again. But you get in a playoff against a
younger team that's going to be able to play and
transition a lot better, and I wonder if the window
isn't closed.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
Yeah, I wonder when we talk about playoff basketball, and
historically it slows down pace and play advance. The plotting
style that the Knicks play right, a little slow it
down half court basketball. But when we look at throughout
the Eastern Conference right now, they're fourth in terms of

(08:12):
point differential, taking advantage.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
Of early scheduling. Certainly at the Garden, no question about it.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
The thing I worry about your squad is that you
can't hit free throws when it matters, and if they
are close games in the playoffs, that you're gonna lose
a couple of those and you're gonna be pulling, well
your hair out, eyebrows, the eyebrows. You're gonna be plucking
your eyebrows like you're that kid in that the internship
because he's stressed out and Vince Vaughan gets all weird out.

(08:39):
But no, I get that right. You look at the heat.
They just get Tyler hero back off his injury. He
immediately comes back with the twenty four point performance. They're
eight and two in their last ten, the Raptors nine
and one in their last ten, and the Pistons who
may never lose again. So all of that to say, yeah,
you're chasing younger teams and trying to find that distance

(09:00):
margin of victory. You're not gonna have a lot of
comfortable moments and maybe that over time becomes an issue. Right,
we talk about stressful innings for pitchers, right, you know,
a quick twelve pitch inning versus all right, it went
twenty four pitches. Yeah, you might have gotten out of
it unscathed, but you know, the domino effect is there,
and certainly the more that you have to.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Rely on Brunson to try to lead you latent games.
And we see Kat having to play extra minutes when
he's not breaking baseball card packs, that he's a guy
that I worry about come April and May that doesn't
have enough left in the tank. As much as they've
done a better job at getting more of a rotation
going than they did under Tibbs, that there is a

(09:45):
level of concern, But I'm gonna go glass half full.
That playoff basketball is enough to where get in and
these guys healthy. You still have a puncher chance to
win the conference. So we'll lot more basketball throughout again.
Forty nine minutes away now from that's all you were
able to stall with forgetting it. So the latest college

(10:06):
football playoff poll is out and not a lot of surprises. Right,
We didn't get a lot of surprises. We saw some
teams get eliminated from what could be the bottom part
of the pool, but top five teams are the same
Ohio State, Indiana, Texas A and M Georgia and Texas Tech.
Now this is where things are going to get interesting
because depending on how things go right, this now looks

(10:28):
like a the college football playoff going into this week
where it's all rivalry week. Right, we got Ohio State
Michigan this week, and then we get the conference championship
games the following week. This is where we get into
the bid stealing mode of college football, right like at
the end of the conference tournaments and in college basketball,
you get a lot of schools that are sweating out
the end because oh boy, we're right on the bubble

(10:50):
and if this team pulls an upset and wins this conference,
they get an automatic bid. So now they have to
go and it doesn't mean you're not going to take
these other schools. So we're in the bids stealing part
now of the college football season.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
The guy that in me, the skeptic that has always
watched conference tournaments with great attention to what the officials
are aren't.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Doing in a given game. You know, if this team wins,
they're suddenly on the bubble. Hey guess what they won? Yeah, yeah,
I mean it's watching for years, but yeah, we're certainly
at that point. Here a couple of interesting comments from
the spokesperson in Once these were revealed today though, that
have me waving my hand off like I'm Harvey Kaitel

(11:33):
or Robert de Niro in many a mob movie.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
So the two biggest ones you're looking at this week
is now potentially Alabama's got to win the SEC to
make it, just make it where a couple of weeks
it was, hey, Alabama's great their number four loop job
Kaln de bor is doing. Now suddenly they might have
to win the SEC to get in because suddenly BYU
Texas Tech goes BYU's way. Oh good luck. Guess what, Alabama,

(11:59):
You're out. Same thing with Michigan, Ohio State. Everybody who's
in the playoff this week, they want Ohio State to
just you don't even have to win big but they're
all where in Ohio State gear because if Michigan wins
this game, guess what. No matter what happens in the
Big Ten championship game, Michigan's getting in because they will
have beaten the best team in the country who has
been number one all year long. So you're in the

(12:21):
big stealing season for the college football Playoff, which is
incredibly exciting, and I don't think anybody really envisioned this
as being such a big part. Right when the playoff
went to twelve, probably college ball said, okay, we do this,
we do this, we do this. And I told you
that the big the big thing's going to be how
do you deal with a team that gets their third

(12:41):
loss in their conference championship, because then you're waiting that
against other two loss teams that did make to the
conference championship. So okay, that's a big one. You're okay,
we win these games, we get here, we get here.
But now, I don't know that anybody really thought that, oh,
we could get into a big stealing situation here where
we're real like you're thinking, Okay, if if team A,
you know, Ohio State gets the Big Ten champion game undefeated,

(13:03):
they're gonna beat the crap out whoever they play. But
maybe they don't and something happens and suddenly, wait, we're
cutting that berth out a bit. This is now a
new wrench that's been thrown into the playoff and those
are the two biggest games this weekend, because really Notre
Dame also doesn't have a spot trench in the playoffs.
If these couple of games don't go their way, you're

(13:26):
looking at Alabama and Notre Dame getting left out. And
I don't know that there's any any magical power of well,
we love these teams and want them on television, it's
a TV show. I don't there's any power that can
help that actually happen.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
Well, and we have the other domino that may or
may not fall as the weak unfolds when we talk
about the Egg Bowl and Lane Kiffen's ultimate decision right
the press conference that everybody awaits, but I just found
it laughable.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
Be remiss not to mention it here. Quote.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
We've been waiting for them to have that signature win
to really put them where they need to be. That's
what the committee chair said of Oregon. A win over
USC is that signature win that everybody was waiting for.
You were a ten and a half point favorite. Lincoln
Riley doesn't win there. This is not a new phenomenon.
They haven't won there in forever.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
So that's the signature win to put them ahead of
Ole miss not. Hey, this guy may leave, so let's
start moving them down the rankings as a preemptive strike
ahead of the Egg Bowl and whatever announcement he makes
this weekend. Are you kidding me? That's the signature win.
The hell are we doing here? I want to you
know what I want to see selfishly is because you know,

(14:37):
they made a big deal a couple of years ago
keeping Florida State Jordan Travord Travis. Yeah, if Lane Kiffin leaves,
we're taking and they tell him he's got to be
out before the before the playoff games, we're taking mississis
old missus out. Oh we talked about that last week.
Coach right, they lost their coach. They're out.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
They've opened, but they've opened the door for it by
moving them already.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
Well, we haven't done that. No, you already did. You
already did with the quarterback exit out bout of Frasca
exit swollen down. The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Carmon live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios
coming up next. Yeall, we got more in the NBA
on the way again. Forty four minutes away from Lamos,
Nappers but we have the first of some big takes

(15:17):
going forward in the NFL this week as we get
set for a huge Thanksgiving Day, A smorgasbord of football
on the way. Next right here, Jason and Mikes morgas
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Speaker 5 (15:29):
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(16:38):
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Max Brosman's not Bret Max brosber oh Man. Doesn't he
sound like a guy that owns a year round Christmas shop?
You ever going to Brozmor's Christmas shop? Like, that's what
he sounds like, Max Brosberg. You get it's like it's
Christmas all year round, and if the store is open

(16:58):
all year round, go to Max Brosmer's.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
Christ facial Harry looks like he's right out of Shakespeare
in Love.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
And he is a little yeah he is. He is
a little bit like that. Yeah, I could see that. Well,
that's a good refer it. Shakespeare loves Yeah, go a
little it's an Oscar war. I what did that beat?
It beats something that it didn't that like that that
wind didn't hold up?

Speaker 5 (17:17):
Right?

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Like?

Speaker 1 (17:17):
I love Shakespeare in Love. It was awesome.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Right.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
They do the play and they tell it like the
story of the Taming of the Shrew and different it was.
I was awesome for a Shakespeare somewhat nerd like I
used to be. I love that, but I kind of
felt like when it won, like it beat a movie
that Like now you know, twenty years later, we're like, oh,
really that woll Saving Private Ryan? Oh yeah, thin red Line, Well,

(17:40):
Saving Private Ryan was better than Thin redid.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
Yeah, but but still on the pantheon of yeah movies,
we're done with one movies. Okay, we're done with one
Elizabeth and Life is Beautiful.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I said, that's a heavy year, man. Yeah, no,
it's that's a heavy year. That's a lot of heavy stuff,
so cliche. You got a little bit of a comedy
going on there. But when you think about the pain
antheon of war movies, right, and that's you know, you
go back in the in the annals of time and
those always come through, Those always are things. Are are
periods that that are immortalized, you know, on the silver screen,

(18:12):
they think, wow, Saving Private Ryan really didn't win like
Shakespeare in Love. What I mean, Shakespeare Love was a
fantastic movie, right, But what Spielberg did the opening scene
of that you felt like you were watching them actually
storm the beaches. I had three elder and gentlemen leave
the theater head in hands that we actually went out

(18:33):
to check on them. Yeah, like that's how powerful that
first twenty minutes. But to talk about that that year
as a whole, you had affliction, Right, Nick Nolty nominated
for that great movie. I don't know how many people
saw Good Clothing, American History X okay, sure, and Gods
and Monsters gallon Right. So yeah, like you start talking

(18:55):
about a civil action, the Truman Show, like there were
a lot of other movies. So and Shakespeare in Love.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
It's like.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
What they did with the play. It was well acted,
it was it was a really good movie. Gwyneth Paltrow
was really good. And Ben Affleck is you know, he's
in the beginning and the end of it. Tom Wilkinson
is good. The story and the and the script is phenomenal,
telling telling, telling a story about Shakespeare's move Shakespeare's plays,
mixing a lot of them in and doing it in

(19:24):
one fell swoop was so unbelievably impressive. And I think
it was just the time where Okay, we're warred out
by these moves. This was something different that jumped in
and I thought it was great, but then I saw
it saving Private Run and I'm like, oh my goodness,
how did this not win? And you watch it now
and you go, how did Tom Hanks not win for
saving Private Runnini Runnerund? I mean, come on, how pissed

(19:45):
were you at? Matt Damon? No, I'm not going back.
What do you mean You're not going back now? I'm
not going back. You're going back? Man, This entire platoon
is risking their life. No, I'm not going back. I'm
not going back. No, you're going back, you jerk. No,
you didn't hurt it at the end. Everybody died because no,
you wouldn't want to go back. You gotta go back.
Their job was to come get you know. I'm not
going back. Yeah, No, I don't know. We did not
earn that. I was really good in the video for

(20:06):
one though. You've seen that at it. Yeah, Billy Bob Thornton,
for a simple plan was the best supporting actor.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
No, I mean because of Shakespeare. I'm gonna go see
Hamnet this week. I'll let you know how man.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Okay, very good. My wife is actually reading that for
a book club. I said, how is it so far?
She goes, eh, I'm like, okay, all right, all right,
because I always cross off. Okay, whenever she tells me
something's good, I'll read it from her book club. But
if not, I just do my sure and uh, it's
right right now she's reading Hamnet. And here's how fast
I read. I just started Lincoln Highway by Amertols, which

(20:40):
is one of the best books the last twenty five years.
I always wanted to read it. Now I'm getting around
like okay, I'm gonna read it now, and like it's
like a six hundred page book and like I started that,
but like Pam started Hamnet like a week before I started, uh,
Lincoln Highway and now I'm gonna finish it tonight. And
she still has like a third of the book club
to go. Yeah. I just picked up a couple of things.

(21:01):
A doorstop, I mean, Lincoln Highway is a doorstop.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
Man.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
It's like, oh my god, Jake, how are you are
you really reading those pages? Like I'm just doing like
I'm looking over going turnturn turns and oh interesting turn
turn turnturn. Oh interesting turn turn turn turn turn. Interesting.
Oh that's pretty good. Ah, go to bed. One hundred
and fifty pages down. I'm done. I'm going to bed. Yeah,
she hates that hate way to marker. Uh now, positivity there.

(21:27):
We've told you for talk about being ahead of the curve.
We're gonna give you something new here. So what else
is new? Come on? I told you for a long
time the Rams are the best team in the NFL,
and now you're seeing it a lot. We told hey
this week they're gonna beat the Seahawks. They're the best
team in the NFL and they're the one team you
can believe in. We talked about this and now congratulations
all the shows that are saying, you know, the Rams

(21:47):
are the best. We told you for weeks. Rams are
the best team in the NFL. Well, the best was.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
This win was also a not a clean win, no, right,
this was a all right, we had to moddy it
up and we had to go win a different way, right,
and they did.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
And that's the best part about the Rams is that
they can win any game, the big like the two.
The one playoff concern about the Rams is obviously when
you see them have to play on the road deep
in the playoffs, playing in Philadelphia. Yeah, not quite their bag.
Not that bad, baby, Yeah, not quite their bag. So
that's the one thing. So home field, right, the Rams
have everything they want right now. They're the best record

(22:21):
in the NFC, and yes they lose the tiebreaker with
the Eagles, but boy, the Eagles look like they might
struggle a little bit. That gas tank might be on
a little bit on e the rest of the way.
But still, how often do you get to Week thirteen
in a league year though that You're just going, I
don't know what kind of effort I'm getting weak to
week because again we talked about it with you and
I and then with Jason LOCKEFORI. Yesterday you're up twenty

(22:42):
one nothing and then it's it's still a division river.
Why the hell wouldn't you want to go through the throat?

Speaker 2 (22:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (22:47):
No, I mean you know what I mean, Like, I
just don't understand the philosophy and how that the ebb
and flow of that game.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
It made no sense. Well, the Eagles have made no sense,
all Ye, That's what I mean.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
Everybody else you can say sucks mostly sucks.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Pretty good at any given Sunday, Rams, Well, I tell
you this whole place sucks. That's right. It sucks. That's
like fifteen teams. But I will tell you this about
the Rams, talking about the best team in the NFL, right,
to give you something a little bit different. On the Rams,
everything they have done so far has been according to
what they've wanted to do, what they felt they have

(23:24):
had to do. We have to win early because we
can't rely on being a hot team at the end
of the year. We have to have more of an
f some winning or we have to be ready to
play early. We can't wait for Matthew Stafford to round
into MVP form by the middle of the season. So
what's happened? Matthew Staffords decided to say, Oh, I'm an
MVP forum right now. Since the beginning, Stafford's been great.

(23:44):
The defense has been phenomenal. Right, that's basically what they
they've and you know, hey, this is what great teams
are built on. Your quarterback is great, Your defense is great.
Show me two teams that have that, and I'll show
you teams at the top that are Super Bowl contenders. Right,
your quarterback's great, your defense is great. The only fear
I have for the Rams, right, And this is also
a Rams team that hasn't run the football really well yet,

(24:05):
and maybe they won't. I want to. I like to
think that, Sean mcvas, You know what, when the weather
gets colder, we're playing. We're gonna run, Kien Williams more,
We're gonna run the football. Give you something a little
bit different, because right now the running game is is
really complimentary to it to a fall to the passing game.
But why would you stop? You have guys that are
you guys stopped that are unbeatable on the outside. Right,
you're throwing the football wherever you want to all year long.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
Well, and plus side is do you look at their
schedule down the stretch. You don't exactly have a bunch
of cold weather games, no, right, either indoors or at home.
Detroit comes to la.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
The one fear I have for the Rams right in
this time when we're all looking for something, looking for
teams to step up. The only thing that about the
best team in the NFL, the only thing that that
that gives me any sort of pause right now, is
that are they peaking too early? They're playing so well
for so long. Stafford throwing four touchdowns a week up

(24:58):
until last week, beginning at the front of every MVP conversation.
The defense is shutting everybody down every single week, it
doesn't matter, and that's great, But we're still got five
games left. Can you sustain this all the way through
the season and into the playoffs? Because what do we
see from the Lions last year? Lion's best team in football? Right,

(25:20):
they ran through everybody, get to the playoffs all of
a sudden, what happened, Well, we had a bad quarter
and a half against Washington. What happened, Yeah, we couldn't
win that game, and guess what, we're going home right
like it happens that way. That's my one concern is that, Okay,
the Rams have peaked a little bit too early, and
maybe by the time the season ends, they're entering the
playoffs a little bit of the that gas tank closer

(25:41):
to e than you want it to be. And we're
gonna be talking more about teams that are gonna be
hitting their peak now, because now is when you really
want to start peaking. End of November Thanksgiving through the
end of the year. It's a little bit longer. Season
now is seventeen games, so but right about now you
get to that last five four or five weeks of
the season. This is where we want to enter the
playoffs play our best football when we're on autopilot as

(26:02):
far as what we know what we need to do,
we know how we need to attack every single game.
It's it's a complete and total UH plan following that
we're comfortable with and we just go out and we
just railroad teams. But the Rams, now they've played so well,
are they really going to be one of those door
to door teams where beginning of the year they were great,
middle of the year they're even better, end of the

(26:23):
year great through the playoffs. That's my one concern. It's
really tough to keep up when you're when you're peaking
like the Rams are now.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
Well, you know, my my usual fear with this stuff
is the the injury gods, the football gods, you know,
they they swing on the pendulum. To this point, the
Rams haven't really been hit very hard in that regard.
A little bit on the line, a little bit when
you're talking, you're missing higbee UH changing empire, how you're

(26:51):
working operating with more tight you know, two tight end sets,
three tight end sets at times, et cetera.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
To your point, not being able to run the ball.
So that's just my fear.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
It's like you've had all these other teams that have
had to fight through a lot of adversity, and the
Rams historically that's been the case, right, the slow start
oftentimes due to key guys missing time due to injury
or limitations, say on Matthew Stafford, who's playing but not
not playing at full throttle because of different ailments. Right now,

(27:23):
you're looking at them as one of the teams at
the bottom end in terms of games lost by starters
due to injury. And I always fear that as we
get into the winter months that you know, we get
some kind of equalization, normalization that happens in that regard, right,
Other teams get healthy and get reinforcements, and then suddenly

(27:43):
you're missing a key pivotal cog to either side of
your offense and defense. For the Rams, they've the one
thing that they have been able to navigate is subpar
special teams to this point, right, that has been the
one thing. And when you get to the playoffs and
we talk about the margin for error being a little
bit less, that perhaps that's the thing that may fell

(28:08):
them as well. So I got to imagine in the
front office there's a lot of time and consideration trying
to shore up little inefficiencies in the return games, and
certainly when you talk about your placekicker exit out about
a Fresco exit swalling down. The Jason Smith Show with
my best friend Mike Carmon Time Now to find out
what's trending in the wide world of sports with someone

(28:29):
who's been called the Matthew Stafford of Fox Sports Radio.
Everybody wants to ask her about his wife's podcast. It's
Steve Schitzeger.

Speaker 4 (28:38):
I thought it was because I've been so good at
the deep middle bawl ever since that combine. We've got
a lot of fun too. Yeah, I think his beard
is grayer, but sure. You talked about college football earlier.
The Big twelve championship game is going to be hosted
by the Cowboys Stadium a week from Saturday. Texas Tech
gets in if it wins. Its finale is expected Saturday,

(29:02):
and number eleven BYU gets in with a win in
its finale. Texas Tech, already destroyed BYU, had to head
about three weeks ago, twenty nine to seven. In the
big picture, the new college football playoff rankings came out tonight.
The top five stayed the same. Texas Tech is ranked
number five in the country. Only the teams that finish
in the top four in the final Playoff Committee rankings

(29:22):
a week from Sunday get that first round by so
Texas Tech as of now, would open the playoff by
hosting a first rounder against Tulane, the best of the
smaller conference teams at number twenty four. I will say
North Texas is having a great season and it will
likely finish eleven and one after this week, so it
could face Tulane in the American Conference title game. And
the North Texas coach, Eric Morris, is leaving the school

(29:46):
for the Oklahoma State job after this season. Morris was
Patrick Mahomes offensive coordinator at Texas, so I knew this.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
And Hector Alisondo comes in to coach the team and
Robert Loja is his defensive Robert low.

Speaker 7 (29:59):
They have a very kicker, yes, oh.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
Yeah, yeah, an old quarterback Sinbad on the defensive line.

Speaker 7 (30:05):
Yeah. That's another movie from many a decade.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
Ago, Jason Bateman when he couldn't get a job.

Speaker 7 (30:13):
I think sinbat even bet on that game.

Speaker 4 (30:17):
Three games in the NFL This Thursday, Thanksgiving, Green Bay
at Detroit, the first of them. Packers running back Josh
Jacobs was limited at walk through with a knee injury.
He did not play last Sunday. Green Bay quarterback Jordan
Love practice fully despite an injured left shoulder. The second
game on Thanksgiving Kansas City at Dallas. The Chiefs confirmed
that running back Isaiah but Checko will return to play Thursday.

(30:39):
He's missed the past month with a knee injury. Cowboys
wide receiver George Pickens was upgraded to limited practice with
knee and calf injuries. The Thursday night game Cincinnati and
quarterback Joe Burrow playing at Baltimore. And there is one
game streaming only for most people. Black Friday, Chicago at Philadelphia.
Ravens quarterback Lamar Jack And by the way, did return

(31:01):
to full practice today. He's had tow ankle knee injuries
recently did practice.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
He's not right, he is trust he is not not
even clean at best.

Speaker 4 (31:11):
No, he's It's a little bit like late in Cam
Newton's career where he couldn't and wasn't running, and now
he wasn't.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
Special anymore, you know what, watching the Jets corral him
on Sunday when he couldn't get outside and he couldn't scramble.
Reminded me like when I was a kid in this
and in this one kid that would throw a fastball
when I was in the little league. He's better than anybody.
Brian Cokeley, right, he could throw a fastball like like
seventy miles an hour, and I remember, wow, this is
no one can touch an one.

Speaker 7 (31:38):
We can throw that speedball by maybe.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
Yeah, like a fool boy. And then uh, my last year,
all of a sudden, I started hitting him like all
like like it wasn't it wasn't. It wasn't anything crazy
other than I got older and maybe his fastball kind.

Speaker 7 (31:52):
Of stumped out literally he lost his fat.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
So I was like, wow, I can't believe I'm I'm.
I can't believe I'm I'm actually hitting him. And I realized, OK,
maybe that I kind of felt like that watching the
Jets and Lamar Jackson. I can't believe the Jets are
slowing down Lamar Jackson, how is this even possible?

Speaker 4 (32:08):
By the way, as far as the Springsteen lyrics, does
nobody ever bring this up? Catchers don't put down one
finger for the speedball and.

Speaker 7 (32:16):
Two for the curve. What what is with that nobody
has ever spoken against that.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
I don't think he was talking about baseball. Why do
you think nobody went to see the Springsteen movie? I
don't know went.

Speaker 4 (32:27):
No, so oddly it's that movie that's actually a complete unknown.

Speaker 7 (32:32):
Thank you good night.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
Yeah, you couldn't have paid me to walk in on that.
And I love my guy from DJ, just like the
the Gate receipts a complete unknown.

Speaker 7 (32:42):
I would have walked out on that movie on a plane.

Speaker 4 (32:44):
The Buffalo Bill, Sidewide receiver Brandon Cooks, the Saints side Kickers.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
Wait, actually, TJ, that movie was on a Road to Nowhere,
a complete unknown. Was a Bob Dylan one Road to Nowhere. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:59):
The Red Sox acquired pitcher Sunny Gray from the Cardinals
in the NBA only three games. We had just got
in a final Orlando one forty four to one oh
three over Philadelphia. We're still half an hour away from
the tip of the lag game.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
Would you say we're still two and a half hours
away from me? Like that?

Speaker 2 (33:16):
All right? Very good?

Speaker 4 (33:16):
Actually, it's after eleven PM Eastern Lakers hosting the Clippers.
Pajamas optional. Washington ended a fourteen game losing streak with
a home win against Atlanta one thirty two to one
thirteen C. J McCollum forty six points. And in college
hoops number seven Michigan and the Holiday tournament in Vegas
has just ripped Auburn one oh two seventy two. Earlier

(33:38):
Tennessee beat number three Houston seventy six seventy three.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
Back to you, thanks Steve. Though Jason Smith Mike Harmon
live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios coming up next. Yeah,
you want that big hot take on a quarterback situation?
Maybe we have seen the last this year of a
very popular, very in the news quarterback. That's next, Jason
of Mike Fox Radio.

Speaker 5 (34:02):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Speaker 1 (34:10):
Fox Sports Radio. The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon, Live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios.
And you want a big, fat hot take going into
this week of the NFL, we got, Yeah, let's go,
I got one for you.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
Hit me so.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
At all. Good thoughts to Vikings quarterback JJ McCarthy in
concussion protocol after reporting symptoms on the flight home from
Green Bay on Sunday. It's the third injury that he
has had this year, and the season has been awful
to the point where you're seeing all these rumors that

(34:47):
maybe the Vikings go after mac Jones in the offseason,
somebody else to bring in to come go make that
trade JJ McCarthy. Right, And we've told you this is
an absolute disaster for the Vikings, because if you're a
Vikings fan, you want blood. You're like, we not only
kicked one Pro Bowl quarterback to the curb, but another
guy who's going to the Pro Bowl this year we

(35:08):
kicked to the curb. I can forgive them for Daniel Jones.
Can't forgive him for Sam Darnold. No, no, no, We're
stubborn with JJ McCarthy. And look, the guy was overdrafted.
I told you this from the beginning. I've watched every
JJ McCarthy Michigan game. He was never the reason they won.
They won the title by limiting his involvement in the
game plan.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
Right.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
I know, Harball loves him, he loves all his players.
He was overdrafted, and it's so embarrassing for the Vikings
that this is where they're at, where Nick gets even
it's going to the blowback on this is going to
be even worse because now it's okay, after you realize
that you blew it a quarterback, now you have to
go fix it. When you had your guy and you
see Sam Darnald have another Pro Bowl season with the

(35:48):
Seattle Seahawks, Okay, we had the guy, We had the guy. No, no, no,
we couldn't even keep him for a year and bring
JJ McCarthy. No, no, we couldn't even do that. Like
I said, you want blood if you're a Vikings fan,
But I will tell you this is my Bowl prediction.
You have seen the last of JJ McCarthy for this year.
The Vikings know, and this is much like what the

(36:09):
Rams did when Jared Goff came in as a rookie
and he was awful and he blew chunks and he
got hurt, and the Rams kept him in bubble rap
for the rest of the season and said, you know what,
not going to come back out and play because you
know there's going to be changed in the offseason. Things
are going to happen, and we're going to get him
a fresh look next year. And so all of a

(36:30):
sudden they didn't play him because what were they going
to gain. He wasn't going to gain confidence, he wasn't
going to gain There wasn't going to be a lot
of positivity. You knew there were going to be changes,
So he didn't play the rest of that year. That's
I think, what's going to happen with JJ McCarthy, your
third injury. You're not playing for anything. You're not going
anywhere in the NFC. I mean, you look at the
playoff contenders and yeah, technically you're alive, but you're in

(36:53):
last place, right, And you're in last place, you still
have division games left to go. All the teams are
better than you are. You're not going anywhere this year.
You have to preserve any sort of possibility that you
can rehabilitate McCarthy in the offseason and he can come
in next year and take a little bit of a leap,
so you can so see, hey, don't fire all of us.
We knew what we were doing. Just need a little
bit of time for JJ McCarthy. Because here's McCarthy two

(37:16):
years with a great offensive coach, and this is what
you're getting from him this year. Right, That's a whole thing.
It's not like, hey, here's an odd match where you're
playing quarterback for the first year defensive coordinator who's come
in and figuring things out. Well, you understand that's a
bad market, that that's a bad uh comparison and a
bad partnering. Uh, this is Wait a minute. He's in
with a great with a great coach, with a great

(37:38):
offensive coach that turned the guy before you into a
great quarterback, that kept Kirk Cousins at a Pro Bowl level,
and you're not even close to that. You can barely
stay a starter. So at some point they're gonna need
to say, listen, we have to do all we can
to preserve that maybe there's something we can salvage from him.
What's gonna what's it gonna sell? What's it gonna prove

(37:58):
coming back this year? If he's not ready physically, he's
not ready, mentally, he's not ready, whatever reason he's not achieving,
what positives are you going to get from bringing him back?
Because the most likely scenario is he's gonna get crushed
down the stretch. He's gonna play poorly, his confidence will
erode even further, the confidence in him will erode even further.
So I'm thinking maybe we've seen the last of jj

(38:18):
McCarthy for this year.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
Yeah, at some point you just recognize where you're at
and you let it bottom out right. Maybe Brosemer Rosmer
it could be that guy that unleashes a little bit,
because we saw a big goose egg from Addison. We've
seen how unhappy Justin Jefferson is. You got a lot
of talent there, and you got Ryan Kelly back this
last week, so you finally had your offensive line kind

(38:41):
of look like he expected it to look before the
season began. And it didn't matter right because he's broken,
right And to your point, having watched all those snaps,
you were a very anti early draft pick. Jim Harbaugh
should get a fruit basket from the McCarthy family this
holiday holiday holiday season for how he talked of him

(39:04):
in such laudatory terms and certainly helped, and we always
get into that unquantifiable he's a winner category when it
comes down to it. What's interesting is the six degrees
of separation. Go back to twenty sixteen. You talk about
Jared Goff in Jeff Fisher's final year, and the coordinator
that year was Rob Boris. He had taken over in

(39:26):
twenty fifteen following the fire of Frank Signetti Junior. That's right,
the guy that's currently the offensive coordinator for the high
power Indiana offense. Just thought i'd throw that in there
because it's a fun little six degrees.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
Is well, what's his buyout? What's his buyout? What do
we go get him? But yeah, it's just interesting.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
You go back last year, right, there were a lot
of questions of all right, do you bring back Kirk
Cousins this offseason? But Sam Darnold, can you bring him
back on a franchise tag because you're not sure where
McCarthy is health wise and how much he's going to
be able to ascend or do you not want that
competition the room with Daniel Jones. I think he wanted

(40:03):
to go have an opportunity to go be a starter
instead of being the bright glass in case of emergency
of McCarthy wasn't ready, which is how he ended up
in Indianapolis and the Anthony Richardson battle there. But right
now you're in no man's land and Kevin O'Connell's looking
more like the guy I questioned last year when Sam
Darnold took all the incoming than the guy that everybody

(40:24):
hailed a Genius.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
Exit a by to Fresca Exit Swollen Dome. Jason Smith
Mike Harmon Live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Have
we seen the last of McCarthy for the season. I
am not going to be surprised if that's the case.
Coming up next, Yeah, we're looking ahead at a big
week thirteen in the NFL. We spotlight two teams with
huge games coming up next Fox Fox Sports Radio, The

(40:46):
Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon. Look,
Ricky Lakers Clippers is finally tipped off. Hooray basketball late
night on two. I mean it's a holiday, holiday, holiday Holloa.
There are no bedtimes, there are no curfews. Okay, that's true.
You're right, You're right about that. I'm with you on that.

(41:07):
It's okay. We got more NBA on the way, but
time to break down all the big news in the
NFL ahead of a huge Thanksgiving Day slate of games
and Black Friday. He is longtime NFL insider. He is
a Pro Football Hall of Fame voter. Big Day there too.
He's on the thirty third team. He's on Twitter at

(41:29):
Jason Cole sixty two. It is Jason Cole who I
welcome you, Jason Cole, with a warning. If you don't
vote for Philip Rivers for the Hall of Fame, Justin
Frosberg will strangle you with a bolo tie just so
you know. These are the stakes for Philip Rivers steaks.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
I'm d.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
I mean, you don't want to get strangled with a
bolo tie.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
Do you think Philip Rivers is looking to this song
right now with a bolo tire on?

Speaker 1 (42:04):
Could be? Now? You got me thinking of like the
end of Silence of the Lambs, right the guys doing
the dance, they're playing Goodbye horses. There it is, It's
a staple of the show. And there he is a
little early in the show earlier, but you know it

(42:25):
is a holiday weeks get out.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
Oh lord, we don't want those.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
Hey one way to one way to prevent it. Put
Philip Rivers in the Hall of Fame. You have to
do it.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
I would love to do that. I love Philip Rivers.
I would say that based on the way the map
goes in this process, Uh, highly unlikely, no matter what,
No matter what I mean. Let's see that Gerald gets
in right without too much doubt. Breeze gets in without

(43:01):
too much doubt. Jason witten Is, I mean, the numbers
are monstrous. Frank Gore, the numbers are monstrous. Now, I
don't think Frank gets in first ballot. That's three. And
when you do the math and you take two guys
with probably fifty votes each, Breeze and Fitzgerald, and you

(43:22):
only leave one hundred and fifty votes for to be
split up among five other people, it's like nearly impossible
to get more than three people into the Hall of
Fame in a given year.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
So you think three per that'll be your three person
class this year.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
Yeah, I think it's yeah, based on I mean it's
it's just like it's just a math exercise and people
sit here and they get really upset when certain guys,
guys don't get in the Hall of Fame like Marshallganda
and Luke Keithley aren't going to get in the Hall
of Fame this year, and they you know, those are
strong kids. Vinetieri's on here, really strong candidate, right, Like

(44:08):
there's some guys on there you say, oh, yeah, those
guys should get through. But just simply the way that
the process works, and so just so people understand what
happens is you narrow the field down from the fifteen
finals who will eventually be named, and we name, we
narrow that group down eventually to seven people, and then

(44:30):
all fifty All the fifty voters each get five votes,
and you vote for the top five out of the
remaining seven. Well, you know, the guy has to get
eighty percent, or at least the top three has to
get in. And again, if you give breathe fifty votes,

(44:52):
which he should get, everybody should vote for him, right
fit Jill, probably fifty votes. You know he's got all
number That takes out one hundred votes out of the
basically two hundred and fifty votes, and you've got to
get forty to get in or at least be third place. Okay, Well,

(45:13):
if there's only one hundred and fifty votes left and
there are five people still on the ballot to be
sorted through, the numbers start to not work. So that's
where like Eli Manning, I don't know if he's ever
going to get in, Philip Rivers, it's it's this is brutal,

(45:35):
Like people in New York are going to have a
fit about Eli Manning based on the way we vote
right now, he's never getting in, and it's not because
he doesn't deserve it. It's because the numbers simply don't work.
And this is why, you know, this is going to
be our third year of doing it, and the worst

(45:55):
part of our listening to our second year of doing it.
The worst part that happens is we talk about all
the guys who actually, you know, do deserve to get
in and then fall into that senior category that guys
like to call it the senior abyss. Well, we're stockpiling
guys and backlogging guys who really should get in from
the modern era, and those guys will eventually get pushed

(46:18):
into the senior category when they really do deserve to
get in. And so we're going to have I mean,
it's not like, you know, I make fun of that
Drew Pearson's and Harry Carmichaels and checktalities of the world, right,
but you know, like I really debate whether those guys

(46:38):
deserve to get in. You know, I Manning never get
you know, like never getting close. It's really weird, Like
I'm not sure he's the Hall of Famer, but he's
damn close. And there was a great point made in
a recent debate like if you look back at those
Giants teams that won two titles, and you know, and

(47:00):
in a short period of time, right, you know, over
a five year period of time, Who's ever going to
get into the Hall of Fame from those two Super
Bowl winners? Is it? Eli? It's straight hands in, he
was on the first one. He wasn't on the second one. Coughlin,
Maybe name another guy who's going to get in the

(47:21):
Hall of Fame from those two teams? And those are
the two historic teams. They want historic runs. And I'm
not saying that there's like ten Hall of Famers from
those teams, but usually teams that get win a couple
of Super Bowls in a short period of time have
three or four. I don't know that they're going to
have more than one.

Speaker 3 (47:44):
Chaos ensues hides Ward has to have special consideration. Were
out running Baines explosives in the dark Knight Rise, But
we'll get to that another time.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
Jason Cole, that is that.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
Is that is definitely a Hall of Fame worth video Well, I.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
Mean as the fastest he ever ran. Now, when you're
also the only survivor of that game, you kind of
have to go into the Hall of Fame. Yeah, well.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
To so there you go.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
There you have it all right, So let's hit the
rewind button first, get that reference a lot Batman? Are
you kidding? Everybody gets the gets the modern day Batman reference.
Everybody does if we go Frank Gorshon or little uh Frank,
John asked Frank Gore. Yes, Frank Gorshon.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
Correct, he's a model candidate.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
So there you are, all right, So I've hit the
rewind button. Shore Sanders, much debate, much valued. I just
grabbed my beer and I wait for the sequel. And
that's all it is for me. But what did you
take from the first effort from him?

Speaker 2 (48:48):
It was he's playing. He's playing in a pre season game.
I mean, like those guys the Raiders have quit. They're awful.
And let's not take away he did what he was
supposed to do. He couldn't He really couldn't do more

(49:09):
than that because the Browns weren't didn't need to do
more than that. So it's not it's not negative, it's
not positives. There are just some games where you go
through the motions and you play and this happened to
be the first start, and you're playing a team that's
so bad that you don't have to really do anything heroic.

(49:30):
He was fine, they were you know, was he great now?
But he didn't have to be great? So okay, next job,
won a game. Let's move to the next one. I
don't draw any conclusions based on Shador Sanders based on that,
nor would I even if he had stunt again the

(49:50):
way that he stunt against the Ravens. I still wouldn't
draw any kind of final conclusion because you want to
see more. I still wonder about his ability to adjust
to the speed of the game. That's that's kind of
forever be a question until he proves otherwise, because he
certainly wasn't great at it in college. So we'll see.

(50:13):
But hey man, good job. Where you go?

Speaker 1 (50:19):
Swich's Yeah NFL Inside of Jason Call our guest Jason Smith,
Mike Harmon.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
I mean, I know that's not exactly deep analysis.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
No, no, look, I said this when we talked about
it last night. I said, they won the game. He
made a couple of nice I thought on Friday, I said,
he's going to make a couple of nice plays because
he stands in he's going to throw the football, he
can deliver it. Okay, he'll make a couple of nice plays.
The Raiders are terrible, they'll win and the team will
be excited and he'll earn another start. And that's kind
of no more, no less. He did enough to earn

(50:50):
another start, and so we get to start this week.
That's kind of where I'm at.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
Yeah, it plays against the sand team. That's not exactly
killing either. I mean, uh, you know, brock Perty tried
everything he did yesterday to give the game the game away,
and I like rock Perty, but yeah, he was terrible
yesterday and you just got to call it what it was, right,
but he was good enough to win a game against

(51:16):
a bad team at home on a Monday night, you know. Again,
move on to the next game, and this is what
happens in the NFL sometimes. So with Shadur, let's see
what you do against forty nine ers.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
Go for it, all right, So let's move on to
next game. And first of all, I want to ask
you this, is there any doubt in your mind that
Chiefs Cowboys is going to be the highest rated game
in the NFL this year. We could have like ninety
million people watching this game on Thanksgiving game it is
that that's.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
A, Yeah, that's a pretty good one. And there's again,
there's no compelling reason for anybody to like, there's not
going to be like an undefeated team like where we
had what the Giants, the Giants against the Patriots on
that Saturday night game when the Patriots were undefeated going
at the end toward the end of the regular season

(52:04):
and everybody want to watch it. We're not going to
have a game like that this year. So yeah, like yeah,
that's that's I'm not sure. And that's like like this
is Jerry's Jerry's perfect year because they're five to five
and one, so they've achieved, you know, they've achieved for
glory status. I didn't say gloria whole status, but glory status.

(52:29):
So they're like they're in the perfect Jerry position because
they could go eight and one this year, which means
they're they're just exciting enough to be mediocre and people
are still watching them and are compelled to watch them
because there's nothing else that they can do but watch
the Cowboys. So this is like the stars have aligned.

(52:53):
It's like the Age of Aquarius for Jerry Jones.

Speaker 3 (52:58):
When the moon is in the seventh house, all right,
Friday we got the Bears in lines with See now
we've taken him down. Hopefully it's a good The plan is.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
I'm sorry and love will. I can't remember the words anymore.
Damn I was. I was on a roll there too. Okay,
going on, moving on?

Speaker 3 (53:20):
Do you have do you believe in the Bears at all?
And will the Eagles ever get the smelling salts?

Speaker 2 (53:28):
I believe in the Bears. Yeah. I mean this is
fun because camvib Williams is learning how to play quarterback
at the NFL level, which is cool to watch because
he's super talented and so like Ben Johnson is getting
three somehow, some way. I don't know how he's doing it,
but it's getting through Philadelphia. I mean, we've talked about

(53:50):
Jalen Hurts, right, went I told you guys a long
time ago, like they don't they don't like him, and
they still don't. But like the best team in football
when they want to be their problem is they don't
have a lot of guys left who are mature enough

(54:11):
to want to be great every week? Right, you know,
they don't have the Fletcher Coxes or the Jason Kelsey's anymore.
To say, like we're supposed to be good. Let's play
like it all the time. They have guys like Jalen
Carter who doesn't know how to be great every week.
But you know, at some point we'll want to be great,

(54:31):
just long enough so that he can get paid his
next contract. We got aj Brown who talked about wanting
to be great, but also like wants the ball a
lot because he's a wide receiver. And that's just the
nature of ye Hurts who just kind of clueless. But
it's great at times. I mean, like you looked at

(54:53):
his two super Bowl performances. Those as did the Super
Bowl performances. You know they lost one if he did
everything that he possibly did to win those games. So
there's times when he shows up. I still have no
doubt that they are the best team in the league.
They just do silly things, as I like to say,

(55:14):
a lot of time, they play with their food way
too much, and they did that again against Dallas where
they played with their food and then the mistakes came
back and bit them in the ass. That's how it
works with them.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
You can follow on Twitter at Jason Coles sixty two,
that is at Jason sixty two. Hey, congratulations on beating
callan Andrew Luck's viral sideline interview. Congratulations.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
That is one of the greatest things of all time.
I'm gonna go see Andre this Saturday, I think. So
I'm going to be back for the I'm going to
the Notre Dad game.

Speaker 1 (55:50):
So go back for that. I want you to okay
for us and we'll play it on the show next week.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
I want you to guard the discussion between me and
Andrew Luck.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
Yes whose voice is what? Yes? And talk about it
and talk about how you sound like each other. That's
what I want for next week.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
Yeah, I've never had that discussion with him, and I
need to.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
And tell me. If he doesn't do it, you're just
gonna impersonate him on the radio from now on and
say crazy things.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
Well, that would be working really well if he was
famous enough that I could make money off that.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
All right, Well, we'll do it for then then then
we'll then we'll monetize it. That your first by Jacob