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Jason and Harmon debate if the Bears are Super Bowl bound. Longtime NFL Insider Jason La Canfora joins the party to put a bow on Week 13. Younghoe Koo completely MISSES the ball on a FG attempt. Plus, something different on Lane Kiffin!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:31):
Welcome inside, Happy Monday, The Devin Williams Show with my
base friend Devin Williams. We broken Mike Harmon. Now the
Mets are gonna fix him. We broke him with that
Alonso home run. Now we're gonna build him back.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Look, it's the home rehab kind of clinic that Cohen's
opening up saying, well, what's upon a time this guy
was a great closer.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
We broken.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
We can get him kind of cheap on a relative base,
is yeah, right for what top dollarge closers go for,
and and we can rebuild him bigger, faster, stronger like
the six million dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
May listen in the sixteen a year. Yeah, it's our fault.
The hear this bad because Alonzo broke you with that
home runneat Now we'll fix you out. It's okay.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Now, taking ownership and responsibility something everybody should look in
the mirror and maybe do for their own Damn cells,
recognize your part in things. High Lane giffing all the
way through that that we run through for your mets.
It's a it's a big starts, so understand that. Hey,
if it's our fault, we will do you think they
played Coldplay fix you for you when they brought him

(01:36):
into sign.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Hey, they do it like giant boombox, Timmy trumpets. Yeah, well,
because it's not rebooked, it's not resigning Edwin Diaz, it's
getting the guy who will probably set up Edwin. I
find it very hard that he was booked. Wait, he's
got a very busy offseason. He's got he's got to
do new songs at some point. He can't just keep
living on Narco forever. You got have a new song
at some point. Yeah, it's not gonna be the Dexia's

(01:59):
Midnight Runners of play music for Closers.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Yeah. I was gonna say you could have gone stronger
and brought in Chuck Mangioni and that I remember, Oh
too soon.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
We're not even two minutes into the show, do you
bring up the Game of Guy?

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Because I had to go through my head, so I
gotta I gotta finish the line because it was like,
let me look him up.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
It's like, wow, I'm a terrible human being.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
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bunch of King and the Hill reruns.

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Speaker 2 (02:45):
What I did is debate though with the Devin Williams signing,
was whether I should slow play it and wait to
see your reaction When Steve Disager had it in his update.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Oh it was awesome. It was awesome. I'm excited. I
was like, if I do that, then you might explode.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
I'm excited, and we'd have to just jump right off
into some other rams.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
I went into print things off, I came back to you.
You just got Devin Williams. I'm like, wow, really that
fault only there was going to print something off the computer. Yeah,
it just happened. I'm like, wow, that's fantastic. Okay, then
you immediately left the room and wait, I started printing again.
I went, so again, if the Mets signed any more

(03:25):
closers slash setup, then we'll bring it to you. But
tonight Monday night football. Again, I want to know who
was the executive that said, you know, we need on
Monday night football. They said this last spring, you know
we need, we need, we need the rebuilding Giants on
a Monday night game in week thirteen. Yeah, let's have that.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
They also said, seem that we don't really know how
good they're They also said, a rebuilding New England team.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
There's no way you thought that you got lucky. You
got lucky with New England. But who is that executive
that's like, yeah, you know, we got to put these
craptastic teams on like week eleven, twelve, and thirteen. Let's
hit that sweet spot where you know people have holidays
and things. They're going, oh, we got to make sure
we put good teams on. No, no, no, let's put
all the big question marks and the teams that stink.
Week eleven Week twelve, Week thirteen. Who is that?

Speaker 2 (04:10):
On the plus side, I mean, you do have the
Patriots resplendent to those uniforms reminiscent of the Steve Grogan
era with Mike Rabel rocking a mustache. That is the
time period.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
No, the unis do look good. Now, the the throwback
unis do look good. I gotta say, I enjoy it.
They remind you of Tom Brady kicking your ounds. No,
there might no, Actually, there remind me the eighties and
and and Grogan and uh and and and garn Varis
and beating us in the wildcard game in the early eighties.
Andre Tippett. Now that's what that's a reminders me, Dray Tipping.

(04:42):
When I see these uniforms, I think of Steve Grogan
and Andre Tippett. Those are the two guys. I gotta
dig that. Yeah, that's it. But again, they look good.
They look good.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
I know it looks clean. If you're gonna have they
also look really clean. Because the Giants haven't done a
lot of anything. If you're gonna give me a bad game,
at least give me one team that looks good in
their uniform doing It's like I say, all Okay, maybe
it's not as bad because they look good doing it,
So all right, that's fine.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
That's that time of year.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
You keep waiting for the lower third to say you
can buy this uniform on the NFL shot.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
But we are the nine and a half minute mark
of the third quarter and the Patriots Giants game is
really close. If you have the Giants getting twenty three,
it is thirty to seven. It has been all New England.
Did you say thirty seven from the in row? From
the jump? Tonight they have been dominating New York. Jackson
Dart looks alternately okay and get rusty. In his first

(05:33):
start back after concussion, nearly gets another one on a
big hit going out of bounds when he's got to
protect himself, and instead he tries to run towards the
stick for the first down and gets absolutely blown up
on his way out of bound. So that's on Jackson Dart.
But I mean, this game is going exactly how he
thought it was gonna go. Hey, New England's at home.
They do nothing but beat bad teams. I'm sure they'll

(05:53):
beat the Giants badly tonight, and that's what we're getting.
So it's this game is not a surprise.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Another great example of just take care of the business,
don't play with your food, going obliterate them. When they
had that long protracted drive to start the game that
ended up with a field goal try, it's like, ah,
this could be interesting and then it wasn't. Uh, then
it got out of sorts really quickly. To your point,
Jackson Dart has had a couple of near misses putting

(06:18):
himself in harm's way, to the point where that is
now the only talking point when the Giants are on
the field. Yeah, they're down big, what do they need
to do? But look, Jackson Jackson Dart is but he
needs to get down. He needs to protect himself at
this point. It's a drinking game. Protect himself. Yeah, yeah,
you know you have to.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
It's it's well, I mean really, that's the It's like
it's like a mantra that Giants fans like where they
get taken over, like because you know, stranger things just
came out. It's like, you know, the the mind flayers
and Vechner are taking over people's minds and making them
just say things like Giants fans have been taken over
by whatever. The vecna of the Giants would be. And
they're walking around going protect him, protect him, slide out

(06:58):
of bounds, protect him, protect him us protect him. You
have a little salty at the e.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
A number of times in my timeline, I'm getting the
here's the guy dressed up as Vecna, just sitting on
a post or sitting in a chair.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
It's like, come on, give me some of the magic.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Let me keep some of my childlike wonder instead of
I'm waiting for this guy to start, you know, smoking
a heater.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
I gotta think, I gotta think of smoking a cigarette.
The ben Affleck posty ben Athlete is sent outside. I
do have to say, I do believe, and I may
be the first person to say this. I mean, I
wonder how much this version of Vecna is based on
Eddie from Iron Maiden, because it looks a lot like
Eddie from The Trooper and Number of the Beast like
Vecna looks a lot like it. Of course, that's the

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eighties and in the middle of it the heyday for
Iron Maiden. I wonder how much he said, you know,
let's make Vecna look like Eddie. Do you think Bruce
Dickinson starts showing up? Tell you what Bruce Dickinson shows up.
I'll be wearing gold plate at diapers. Never question Bruce Dickinson.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
He walks onto the set and delivers that line and
immediately gets defeated.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Is that when you're anticipating Now we do have to
talk about one play in this game for the next
few minutes because it is that important in the grand
scheme of the final score of this game. No, not
that important in the grand scheme of Hey, we have
to talk about this play. We have to talk about this.
The Patriots are up seventeen nothing to start this game.
The field goal punt, touchdown, seventeen nothing, right, Jackson Dart

(08:23):
throws a touchdown pass, and now the Giants, facing a
fourth down from the Patriots thirty yard line, are about
to kick a field goal that would tie or bring
it to within one score, and all of a sudden,
the seventeen nothing Patriots lead is now seventeen to ten,
and you're thinking, wait a minute, the Giants may have something.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Here.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Here's Jackson Dart rally around me. I will see you,
I will see you through hell, and you think, okay,
maybe this could become a game.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Except this iron mate would be playing in the background
as here in the trooper, follow me to free Sex.
Six the number of the beast hell and five the ball.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
So Young Wayku is out there for a field goal.
Forty five yard field goal. This is going to make
it a seventeen to ten game. Except this happened.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
Forty seven yard try now by Young Wayco and he stumbled.
Jellen gets swallowed up Patriots ball. I don't think I've
ever seen that.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
Look like I need his foot right into the turf.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
You're laughing at the poor gual.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
It's been that kind of year.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Here it is Troy Aikman hasn't seen it. I've never
seen it Young way who goes to kick the ball
and he simply kicks the ground about two feet behind
the football. Now you see this game, it's it's it's
on a great turf. There's no mud anywhere, there's no slipperiness,

(09:57):
there's no everything is it's perfect kick conditions. Again, I
have never seen as much as I love kicking field
goals before we played football, I love I never did this.
This guy, this is a professional field goal kicker in
the NFL, and he goes in and he kicks two
feet behind the ball into the ground like he goes

(10:19):
in it like it's not it's not like, well he
duffs it a little bit and he kicked a little
bit behind the ball. He doesn't get it like he like,
I've hit golf shots like this where a man I
want to hit a couple of inches behind the ball.
But because you know I'm a I'm a duffer, and
obviously I did duffer. Because I'm a duffer. He once
in a while you'll get that swing where a man
I hit about a foot behind the ball. But that's

(10:40):
what this is. He he kicks and and he lands
two feet behind the football, and then the Giants have
to pull it up and run some kind of crazy
ass run around with the ball because it's not like
he even got through. It's not like he hit it
and he brought it through and it was low. The
Giants call of this, the play by play is even worse.
They just thought he got a block. Oh it's been blocked.
Oh no, he just he kicked two feet kicked the

(11:02):
ground two feet behind the ball. I'm gonna give you
do that.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
The Giant's crew credit then, because that meant they had
a really bad viewing point and they were not watching
it on a television right, that means they were end
zone or something. So I was like, I must have
been blocked. And then they see the replay they say,
what the hell is that like? As he strides towards
the ball, and look, I'll be the first to admit

(11:26):
I don't usually look at the footing of a guy
until something's gone terribly wrong.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Right, but where he ends up with his plant foot.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
He's far ahead of the ball and realizes it and
then literally kicks a giant did it to use your
golf thing with his kicking.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
Leg and to where he gets nowhere near.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
The football And obviously they're laughing about it in the
press box, but you, you and I were talking about
this before the show, was like, I don't think I've
seen this.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
And this guy's had a lot of bad moments.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
Oh Young went back to his beginning of his think
his very first field goal for the Chargers was a
kick way too soon. He missed at the end and
the Chargers thought he made it and they set the
cannon off like they thought he they thought he you know,
they they won the game and he missed it. I mean,
he's had he's had moments too soon James bringing back memories.

(12:20):
I'm sorry, man to me, No, I don't need to
hear the butt fubble. That's fine, I don't need.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
To hear that.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Going all the way back to twenty seventeen for that one,
and then a long, long career in Atlanta where he
was fantastic, yeah for a good chunk of times.

Speaker 5 (12:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
And then we have this play that will now become
the punctuation mark of what has been a disastrous effort.
You've got guys once again, disciplinarian kind of consequences for
Abdul Carter. You've got Jackson Dart just trying not to
get hurt. That's really the subplot of all Giants games
at this point. And then we're watching the Patriots roll up,

(12:55):
which I know is vexing for you.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
I see you know what, Listen, you think that's bad.
I've seen this. I've seen the Patriots win Super Bowl
for the last twenty years. It doesn't matter that it's
Drake May and Ramandre Stevenson and Trevion Anderson and Christian Gonzales.
I've seen that uniform with I'm okay if it happens,
I've seen it so many times.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
I will say this, though you use this uniform and
we invoke the name of Grogan and others, how about
a rematch forty years later.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
He's where we're getting right now. How about it. That's
where home field advantage is getting right now. Bears, Bears
are the number one seed in the EDFC. I was
waiting to see if we could do the whole first
segment before we brought that up.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
Well, only because of those great uniforms, and they bring
back such memories of well defenders terrorizing quarterbacks wearing such
Because there's a new documentary. I don't know if you
know this, there's another new documentary making of the Super
Bowl shuffle in because.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
We need Yeah, the sixty nine Mets and the eighty
five Bears. We need more on that. We need we
need more shows on it. Those guys are store around
and need money. Or have they not let Buddy Ryan go?
They probably would have won back to them.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
Well, if those guys hadn't lifted him over their shoulders
and pissed Ditka off, it might have been able.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
To run it back. Yeah, I mean, first it was
Buddy Ryan, then it was Jerry new Heisel. You know,
will we pick up the coordinator and carry him off.
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(14:25):
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Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon. Fourth quarter, getting set to get underway,
still thirty to seven. Pay the damn Tel Patriots with
the lead over the Giants. New England's going to improve
to eleven and two. Start thinking about home field advantage
of the playoffs. Exactly how we thought this was gonna

(16:12):
go chaos. Joining us down the hot line for more
on this and all the other big stories out of
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Jason Locking for It is Jason Locking for What's happening?

Speaker 7 (16:28):
Man? How are you what's going on, gentlemen?

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Hello, you know, this is another game that I don't
think anybody's really surprised by. We're watching the Patriots beat
the crap out of the Giants because this is what
the Patriots do. They beat bad football teams. But look,
are you believing in the Patriots? Are they really this good?
Do you really want to see more? Because I know
where are you with where they are right now? This season?

Speaker 7 (16:51):
Well, I mean, it's super impressive what they does. It
might not be the most blue chip laden grass dur
in the world, but they play, Uh, they put our
asses off collectively. There's a lot of belief there that
manifests itself in a lot of different ways. Mike Frabels

(17:13):
gets you know, even the public actor is gig. He
gets so much out of his teams, and he gets
them to believe they're capable of something of some things
that you and I and Vegas and a lot of
people with these seasons thoughts don't believe this is a
team that you know, we know what happened in Fox
prol and Brady at Belichick. They wanted a ridiculous rate.

(17:36):
They almost never trailed. Every fumble went their way, every
break wins their way like and then that place turned
into a house of hers when Brady left, and now
they restored a home field advantage. This quarterback is super special.
And look, there's no great teams. I mean, this is

(17:57):
the worst version of the Chiefs we've since my homes
got together. Defending champs are finding ways to create controversy
at lay eggs and do ridiculous things by the week.
I don't know if there's any super teams. I mean,
we all would have said the Rams that we just
saw what happened. So I can't discount the Patriots like

(18:20):
I can't say they've become frauds when the playoffs time,
like they're going to have home field advantage. Might they
come up a little small by the more experienced team
knock them all? Sure, but maybe not there. They're clearly

(18:47):
one of the best teams in the NFL. And if
you want to define that as well as mostly come
against bad teams, well again that we can go through
every team's wins and losses, you're going to find the
supposed best teams all have a couple of losses at
dailable with that, and probably don't have the high end

(19:09):
quality of wins that you would want from your you know,
foot running potential champion in a normal year. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
I mean that's the larger point though, right, is that
you know who actually is good. You mentioned the Rams,
which would have been the leader in the clubhouse out
coming back this way. You also have Denver that escapes
on the two point. True, I bat it down nine
in a row. But you go through the laundry list
of wins there, there's not a lot of heavyweights.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
You just beat who's on the schedule.

Speaker 7 (19:40):
Yeah, I mean your career wins. Do you see what
happened in January? I mean I don't. I don't know.
Like we would probably say, right, like the Bill's biggest
wins are the Ravens week flooded. We see the Ravens
are incredibly flown to you, and then they beat the
Chiefs at Home. Well, chiefs don't beat anybody on the road,

(20:02):
do you know what I mean? So, like, if that's
the build's best wigs, well okay, well how great are
those lids? You know what I mean? Like, what what
is that? What is being the Chiefs at Home this year?
Like what does that really really need? Like I'm not
sure it means a whole lot, like we can do

(20:23):
the same exercise. Like to me, the Bears and the
Patriots are kind of the same deal. Coaches have only
been there a couple of years, quarterbacks who've only been
there a couple of years exceeding expectations. Do we get
it away that you might say might pretend some some
regression in terms of all the fourth quarter stuff, that

(20:44):
all the turnovers and like the way was like never
really had to trail, like play from behind it all
this year. But you look at time spent leading time,
spit trailing, time spent with with with you know, even
besids of like never had to trail. So that bank question. So,
but I don't think it means that they're absolutely fake
that they couldn't stream together two or three weeks in January.

(21:06):
I don't know how he's putting a whole lot of
money on it. But I also don't think you can
discount it.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
Yeah, I want to. I want to thirty for thirty
on how the hell they lost to the Raiders week one, Like,
I mean, I want four hours. How did this absolutely happen?
How did can this actually happen?

Speaker 7 (21:25):
Yeah, I don't know. I mean, yeah, at home right.
That was the start of the pet cattle receive at
peaks right then and day. I mean that you don't
want to talk about you want to talk about let
it all hang out right away, like, And that's how
Pete lives. He lives every day to the fullest. And
you know he reached the pinnacle of his Raiders coaching

(21:47):
career and his personal revenge game at Foxborough in the
middle of the summer. You know, it did like early September.
So yeah, that was great, got.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
The best of everybody, Relieve them of their duties and
now movements.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
It goes Jason Locking for our guests here Fox Sports Radio,
Jason Smith, Mike Carmon. All right, so now the Bears,
I mean, I don't know, you know what kind of
odds they were. If I could say, hey, by week thirteen,
I want the Bears as the number one seed in
the NFC.

Speaker 7 (22:14):
But I canna tell you, Jakes.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
If the Bear, if the Chiefs were winning like the Bears,
we'd make all kinds of excuses for them. Look how
they're pulling stuff out at the end, complimentary football. But
the Bears, it's like, ah, yeah, but the Bear. The
Bears are finding ways to do it, and this is
a pretty talented roster man. This is like the era
of good feeling now for Chicago.

Speaker 7 (22:34):
Yeah, and like I did, do I do. I see
a whole lot of all pro type players on the
football team. I really don't, but I love them with
the like kind of like like I said with the Patriots,
and maybe put Denver in that category as well. In
terms of the young quarterback, I don't. I don't know

(22:57):
that the Bears have a dumb the defense, but they are.
They have a dominant trade that dominant traders. They steal
Bree possessed me from you a game with the Turtles.
That's real for them. It keeps happening, so I can't
say that it won't happen again. Is it gonna happen
next year? I don't know. It's gonna happen in the playoffs.

(23:19):
I don't know, but a damn site keeps happening in
the regular season, and I don't think that's going a way.
So like, I don't know, guys, like this could be
a year like where it's truly wide open and there's

(23:39):
a bit of a changing to the guy and we
get you know, I don't know Houston against Chicago at
the Super Bowl or something like that. It might it
might be out there, man, it might be a little
bit bleep crazy. I think it has. And you have
that sort of potential.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Yeah, plus seventeen turnover wrenchal right, now, Houston tied with
the Rams and Buccaneers at plus nine for second place
in that category. But you mentioned Houston, and all of
a sudden, we got a lot of intrigue in the
AFC South as Trevor Lawrence in his run game have
gotten things going.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
CJ.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
Stroud's back with a great defense. And then we still
have the Colts and Daniel Jones's broken leg handicapped the
final four weeks.

Speaker 7 (24:26):
Well, look, I've been saying and writing in the Post
for a long time that bumpus division and go to
the playoffs, and the Colts aren't necessarily one of them,
you know. Yeah, you got the soft cargo thing though,
you got Dago Zones playing with the broken shoulder or
whatever it is. You've had some certainly some regression for them.

(24:46):
You you have like you got some puff face games
coming up. Jacksonville three and smoked the beers and I
don't really like the quarterback, but they won eight games.
Do they have a signature with do they have a
dominant trait other than turnovers? Even that has piled up

(25:09):
since the beginning of the year, I don't know that
they do. I don't really think they have a huge
or discernible hopefield advantage. But like, could they win that division?
I think they absolutely could win that division. Yeah, I like,

(25:30):
I think used To could win that division. I mean,
I think Indianapolis could win that division. I mean, I
don't think three teams from that division are going to
the playoffs, but I guess that's full of mathematical probability,
like possibility. You know, Houston be beating Buffalo could turn

(25:51):
out to be a really significant tiebreaker. So yeah, I
mean sowing darted any team there. I mean, at various
times this year, I've made the case for three to
ferent teams to win that division. Uh, the goodness is
one of them probably right with one of them, Tennessee, at.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
Some point, you got right about without.

Speaker 7 (26:16):
One hundred percent, right, Jogi Bear would say, yeah, I
got a one chance of being at least thirty three
percent right, Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
He's on Twitter at Jason lock and four that's at
Jason lock and four. I want to bet one oh
five seven the fan in Baltimore, Odessey, Washington Post. Jay
is always buddy, appreciate your time, my friend. Enjoy that
that win percentage air. We'll talk to you next week.

Speaker 7 (26:39):
Yeah, let's get three more points of this football tier
game here, boys, let's get let's get the.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
Over all, right, Jason, Yeah, Look, you know the main
point is, Look, you think about what we talked about
the Patriots, and yes, their schedule is incredibly easy. But
when you look at Okay, they've beaten some allegedly good teams.
But that's the thing is that there's nobody you can say, well,
this team is a top everybody. What do we say

(27:04):
last week? There's nobody to believe in. The Rams are
the only team to believe it. And now the Rams
let me down. Like the Rams, come on, man, really
you go?

Speaker 2 (27:11):
You were walking the beach trying to figure things out,
like you, Lionel reach the win to Carolina and let
and let Bryce Young well look like like like a
Pro Bowl quarterback.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
Against you, the best defense in the NFC. Like there
was one team to believe in last week. Now there's
no teams, there are no great teams, and it's hard
to measure one team's schedule against another because well, how
good of a win is this, How good of a
win is this. I just look at the Patriots and go, wow,
I feel like they had a five week stretch of
I think. I don't think the teams have five total
wins when they're playing, so what is an easy schedule?

(27:42):
But the flip side to give the Patriots credit is
I again, I don't know what teams I can say
right now. Yeah they're great, Yeah they're really really great.
Yeah they're even the Broncos. Great record, But how you
needed overtime to beat Marcus Mariota last night? I mean,
come on, man, really need need a big stand on
a two point play to beat the Commanders?

Speaker 2 (27:59):
Come on, dude, really immediately see the replay of how
wide open the running back and yeah, wide receiver did
a good job of picking off to you guys, like
all he's got to do is get the ball out
over the outstretched arm. But to that point, right, all
the young quarterbacks, all the teams and trying to parse
it all out, it's kind of like the college football landscape.

(28:19):
We're like, all right, this was a really good win
back in the second week of September. Now that team's
four and seven. How good a win is it?

Speaker 7 (28:27):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (28:28):
Debate right, I mean, and we're doing that a lot
as we get ready for the next round of playoff
rankings and everything tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
It's that same thing. It's like, all right, is that
really a quality win anymore? I don't know. It's difficult.
I mean it you look and go, well, how you
can't do the transitive property? Look, they beat these three teams.
These three teams lost to these two teams. These two
teams lost. It's really there are there are zero teams,
and I really I feel like the Rams they let
me down. Now I'm kind of pissed at the Rams.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
I mean on the plus side for the Patriots, the
plus ninety two for the years, So generally they're curb
stopping when given an.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
Opportunity, won't you play bad team supposed to win?

Speaker 7 (29:05):
Well?

Speaker 1 (29:05):
What that us? Style? Time now to find out what's
trending in the wide world of sports. So someone who's
been called the Lane Kiffin of Fox Sports Radio, really
day to day we don't know where he's going to be.
It's Steve Desager, But I would like to stay with
this show until I go to my new show. Did
you Pray on It? Did you pray last night? To
pray on it?

Speaker 5 (29:22):
Make their playoff coming up?

Speaker 1 (29:24):
Do? I? How about I leave?

Speaker 5 (29:26):
And then I still get paid for this show for
the next few weeks.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
Okay, as long as you tell me how difficult a
decision it was for all.

Speaker 5 (29:33):
The people who didn't hear the people, the journalists who
got a hold of the contract. Lane Kiffen's new deal
with LSU. He's going to get bonus money for his
old team Old Miss advancing to the season's playoffs, and
then if they keep winning over the next month, he'll
keep getting more bonus money from the Old Miss victories. Also,
if his LSU club wins the national title, he'll automatically

(29:56):
become the nation's highest paid coach. And LSU, by the way,
still was former coach Brian Kelly over fifty million dollars
after firing him in October, it is still paying former
coach at Oorgeron as well.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
I need a thirty for thirty on. Does LSU have
the most nil money of any team? I mean, really,
this is insane the money they're spending. They're spending, but
I thought the governor was getting it under control.

Speaker 5 (30:18):
Right, right, exactly, Let's believe the politicians yet again. If nil,
If you're talking about the image of the coaches, yes,
I go. It's going to somebody's image, not necessarily making
it onto the playing field. BYU head coach Kalate Sataki
is reportedly a candidate for the Penn State job. His
team is going to be in its conference final this weekend,
so you could guess that he doesn't really want to

(30:40):
hear much about that. Jason Smith, we have a Penn
State story, okay, and we have a UCLA story with
coaching as well well. The Penn State story first, okay,
I mentioned Sataki and he reportedly has met with Penn State. Yes,
but he's trying to deflect this week. Obviously they've got
a big game to play this weekend. UCLA's new football coach. Well, now,
the big thing about this, though, is.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
That and with BYU with no no, Yeah, with with
BYU clearly with Satake, hoping this doesn't mushroom into something
bigger than it is. DJ. Holy cow. If you thought
that was good, wait till this one coming up.

Speaker 5 (31:16):
Now, those are not served at the restaurants I attend
Chess to the record. UCLA's new coach will be Bob Chesney,
who will still coach James Madison this weekend in the
Sunbelt title game plus any playoff after that.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
TJ. Clearly the question for Chesney Kenny winn at his
new school.

Speaker 5 (31:34):
Okay, I think we all got.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
That, TJ. When the sun goes down? Will Chesney be
able to get victories? Chesney saying, there goes my life
at Westwood for UCLA.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
Did you get a boys of fall equipping while you're
at it?

Speaker 5 (31:49):
Oh, they've fallen enough this past fall. Kentucky fired coach
Mark Stoops. Anything there, that's that mean, that's the last
name that's asking for?

Speaker 1 (31:57):
Well, TJ. Clearly Kentucky stooped as far as they could
until they had to make a change. He'd been there
thirteen years.

Speaker 5 (32:05):
Over the last two seasons he went nine to fifteen,
including Saturday's forty one nothing loss at rival Louisville. Yeah,
there is a little money involved here as well. This
is a guy who this past year for the bad record,
earned nine million dollars and was signed until twenty thirty one,
so he still owed over thirty five million dollars. Jonathan

(32:26):
Smith was just fired by Michigan State yesterday, Spartan's new
head football coach Pat Fitzgerald X of Northwestern. By the way,
Texas A and M fell to number seven in the
new AP poll. For what it's worth, the new committee
rankings come out Tuesday, but with the A and M
loss this past Friday, Georgia is in the SEC title
game next Saturday, going back to Atlanta to pay to
face Alabama. Texas Tech will be against BYU in the

(32:49):
Big twelve title game. Fox TV this Saturday night has
number one Ohio State against number two ranked Indiana for
the Big Ten Crown in Indianapolis. Now Miami ranked number twelve,
but Duke will be in the ACC Championship game against Virginia.
Go figure College football selection Sunday, an.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
Eleven way tie, See's Duke make it to the ACC Championship.

Speaker 5 (33:12):
Seemingly half of the Mountain West Conference tied for first
as well, and they announced in advance We're just going
to the computers.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
We won't have humans involved in this. Whatsothan really is it?

Speaker 7 (33:22):
That?

Speaker 1 (33:22):
Is it that tough for a tiebreaker? You have to
have foresight, you have to say, okay, new new situation
with the playoff, let's vote on it. Let's just make
sure the highest ranked teams are into the conference championship game.
Why could we not do that? Why could we do?

Speaker 2 (33:36):
Like Texas breaker football, you meet at a gas station,
do you flip a coin?

Speaker 1 (33:40):
I can go for that.

Speaker 5 (33:41):
I can go for that too, the reference of computers.
Do we not all remember when Pete Carroll was coaching
a good team at USC about twenty years ago, and
they were ranked number one in both polls, but the
computers did not have them. In the BCS National Title game,
the Mets gave reliever Devin Williams a three year deal.
Closer Edwin Diaz is a free agent. I assume you
you're gonna have them both.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
Yes, of course, yes, And we may or may not
have Alonzo. If Devin Williams is I can't look at
that guy. The Mets will let him go. If it's
okay to bring him BA, they'll bring him back. Can
he pitch? He's going to be the designated hitter if
they bring him back.

Speaker 5 (34:15):
Well, now, let's get to the Monday night football game.
There's not been a lot to talk about here. It
was thirty to seven Patriots over the Giants at the half.
It's now thirty to fifteen. As yes, there's been a
two point conversion from Jackson Dart, who is back started
after missing time with a concussion. His two point pass,
he first scrambled around a literal distance of over forty

(34:35):
yards before he threw to the end zone successfully. Thirty
to fifteen were mid fourth quarter of this game, but
it's been a blowout. After the first quarter, it was
Patriots seventeen nothing, their largest lead at the end of
one in six years. For the Giants, their largest deficit
at the end of one in nearly twenty years. By halftime,

(34:56):
that Giant's deficit was their second largest ever on a
Monday Football game. Before tonight, they've played on Monday Night
football seventy five times. There are three late games in
the NBA, including at the end of one the Lakers
at home tied with Phoenix thirty one to zero. Luka
Donsich in the first twelve minutes has twenty points, eight
of eleven from the floor. Meanwhile, Anthony Davis twenty three

(35:19):
points in his twenty two minutes, most of that scoring
in the first half. Dallas leads at Denver ninety eight,
ninety seven. Late in the third, Washington was two and sixteen,
but edge Milwaukee. The Clippers are just awful this year
five and sixteen. The record they lost at Miami won
forty to one, twenty three.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve O. Coming up next,
we got the Play of the Day coming your way.
D you wan a great, big hot take coming off
of this Monday night football game. We got it for
you next right here, Jason and Mike. Fox Sports Radio.
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific, Fox Sports Radio. The Jason Smith Show with

(35:56):
Mike Harmon Live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Thirty
to fifteen. Patriots still with the lead and the football
just under six minutes left to go in the fourth quarter,
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Speaker 3 (36:34):
Yard try now by Young Waycoo and he stumbled jell
EN's get swallowed up Patriots ball.

Speaker 4 (36:43):
I don't think I've ever seen that. Looked like he
just stubbed his foot right into the turf.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
Oh it's been that kind of year. There he is
ESPN on the call, Joe Bunk, Troy Aikman, you know,
and you wonder and people start talking about it online,
some doctors like, is he gonna have some kind of
toe injury? Is he gonna have turf toe something? Because
he missed the ball by two feet he kicked two
feet behind the ball. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
No, his posture as he did his approach, like because
his plant foot ends up going out in front of
the football and it's almost like he realizes he missed
strode in that initial approach to the ball and straight
into the ground and then straight into the ground. Yeah,
So like, did he break his toe? Did he stub
his toes? Are we talking about a bigger foot injury

(37:34):
that now flows out of this and that's a that's
a that's a Jets play that happened right there.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
That's like, oh yeah, this happened. You'd say, oh yeah,
New York team. No, we got folk hero man, folk hero.
You have young white coups. He got two feet behind
the football, bad bad things man. Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
It's a year when everything has gone wrong, mavers cert
and ripping the team and pulling down social media posts.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
You fired a coach.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
You talk about your quarterback in and out of the tent,
former coach going into tent to try to protect him
and look after him. You had a brief moment of
scatabo scatabo hows you were in a helmet playing video
games for crying out loud.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
Come on, now, I do have one bit of good
news for the Giants. You want a big, hot take off,
it's a night's game. I got one for you. This
has not been his greatest game, obviously. You know, fourteen
out of nineteen he's only thrown for one hundred yards.
It's the Giants are a bad football team and weapons
are getting hurt all the time. Tyrone Tracy just left
the game with what looked like it could have been
a head injury. On a tackle. You've already said, we've

(38:33):
lost Malik Neighbors, you lost Scataboo. I mean you're still
trying to make Darius Slayton's going to be forty five
years old, still catching passes for the Giants.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
Hey, we got him first round pick. Doesn't show up
a lot of times. Yeah, I've seen enough from him
this year. The Giants will have head coach TBA next
year who will come in with an offensive background. The
Giants job is the best job in football in the
last three few years because you're coming in with an
opera to succeed. You have a fresh slate that players

(39:03):
need coming in, and you have Dart. You'll have Neighbors
coming back, Scatibo coming back, great defensive line, hopefully get
up Dual Carter to more games, have us first sack tonight.
So congratulations. But I will tell you this, I'll give
you this Bolt prediction. By this time next year, by
next December, we're talking about Jackson Dart being one of
the top five quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
In the NFL. You've seen him flash, You've seen him
put numbers up, You've seen him grab this team by
the throat. You've seen his leadership. I have no doubt
in my mind. By this time next year, full training
camp with the starters, full full season with his weapons again,
watch out, he'll be a top five quarterback. In the end,
he'll be a consensus top five guy by this time.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
Are they gonna have five offensive linemen that can keep
him up right? Will he change his style and approach?
Because I know that's what makes him special And this
is where it's maddening. We talk about quarterbacks and their
ability to move and elude defenders in the pocket, get
to the edge and make plays, and that's been fantastic
a watch.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
I don't trust that he's ever getting there.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
By he's gonna be that guy that could have been
a top Look at you, I'm saying this about a giant.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
I don't want this to happen, but it's going just
like it is.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
He's electric and he's fun as hell to watch. I
don't trust he's staying up.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
Yeah, but this is not for him where it's gonna
be hard for him to unlearn, like Cam Newton or
Kaepernick or RG three because his scrambling abilities I scrambled
get out about. This is not I'm Lamar Jackson running
in the middle of the field and I got to
no one to slide this is this is more. Hey,
just make the smarter, Just make the smart. It's made
a lot of dumb plays. Go back. He used to

(40:35):
do the thing like he was Nelson Munch run down
it goes. I see that guy over there, I'm gonna
go hit him. Now that's an easy enough thing for
him to fix in the office. I don't see this
as being something that's that big a deal. Plus a
lot more weapons a personality.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
He'll have more weapons to make plays and and it'll
be a little bit don't have to do everything himself
like he's trying to do it. Whoever the new coaches
has to say, you don't have to pretend you're you're
a linebacker.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
Lane Kiffin will get the best out of him next year.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
You watch, is he gonna talk to Marty Smith with
him Isolinis behind him?

Speaker 1 (41:01):
First we get into the biggest college football story of
the year coming up next, Jason and Mike Fox stick
right now, you're not feeling good, but you're feeling up.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
There's still too remind you Musburger for many a year.
They're going to say, is Brett Michaels will remind you,
well every rose does have.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
Sure, sure you gotta cry tough. If you don't need
nothing but to get time, you got to give me
something to believe in when I'm watching the last two
minutes of this game, Uh, no question about it. So
we'll have more on this game coming up in a
few minutes. Again, two minutes left to go. The pages
with a thirty three to fifteen lead over the Giants. Meanwhile,
everybody's favorite or least favorite college football story has come

(41:43):
to its conclusion. Lane Kiffin is with LSU. It happened
over the weekend. He had his introductory press conference today.
And the first thing to say before we get to
something you haven't heard all day and all weekend about
Lane kiffn number one. The way this went, this is
so on brand for Lane Kiffin, right, so incredibly on

(42:06):
brand where I'm gonna take this all the way to
the end and I'm gonna play the Egg Bowl. My
decision is to leave. I'm gonna play the victim that,
oh I wanted to stay but they wouldn't let me.
And then he's gonna say that I had no choice
to leave because I talked to Nick Saban and Nick
Saban told me to go. Wait a minute, Nick Saban
works for ESPN. I don't know that that's super legal,

(42:27):
but everybody told me to go. Okay, and miss oh
miss is saying, yeah, we could have kept you, but
we don't want the playoff to be some sort of
crazy infomercial for Lane kiffen who you're gonna wind up
bringing there with you. And we had reports and he
told some of his staff, you're on the plane with
me to LSU or you don't have a job. And
now today more of Lane Kiffin saying, hey, I had

(42:47):
to do this, this was a move, I'm taking this
step up. He prayed on this, you know a lot
of prayer, and you know, twelve million dollars a year.
This was so on brand for everything lane Kiffin, one
hundred percent. This is this is how it should go
when Lane Kiffin's taking a new job. This is how
it went. This was a hundred you. No one lied
to you, no one told this is crazy, No one

(43:08):
tod this is something you don't know how much you
want to talk, No, no, this is exactly how you
thought it was gonna go.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
And that's all I just keep waiting from the bust
out eighty year old it sacked Pearlman to be his
personal violinist behind him as he tries to sell the sop.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
Wait a minute, traveling with a personal violinist. Yeah, I'm
gonna tell a sad tale of how I was wrong.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
Yeah, start, start play that sad music behind me, because.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
I'm thinking back to I'm gonna get you, sucker. All
heroes have their own music.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
And that's exactly like the thing that looked like it
was a jailhouse sad set with Marty Smith to all
the guys Saturday.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
I was telling you I couldn't avoid it.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
I didn't see it live, but all of a sudden,
I go in my timeline, I'm hanging out and it's
every third thing in.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
All that was so good. Yeah, but it was all
of the hanging ones. I know, I like the ben
out with the ben affleck cigarettes.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
No, that's a good but like all of the oh,
you know, the administration's gotta let him coach, No they don't.

Speaker 1 (44:10):
He quit, that's it.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
And anybody taking the encounter is just taking the counter
for the sake of it. Yeah, Like it's idiotic to
me at any level saying you know what, Yeah, Okay,
it's fine. If you're gonna go to an anonymous Bowl
game whatever, and you're just shuffling the deck chairs, that's fine.
We're talking about a team that's it's had a double
digit win again, which is what he's done many times

(44:34):
as ole miss in this reclamation project. We know his
long history and journey, and now he's taking that step.
Guess what, you stepped out the door. The name plates
changed the website. They couldn't update that fast enough.

Speaker 7 (44:49):
That was gone.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
Yeah, and the George Clooney you're either in or you're
out right now. That was both sides, and it was
beautiful Kiff and strong arming guys, the administrative, the evil administer,
those terrible people. I wanted to coach, I really didn't.
Then why'd inc that deal over?

Speaker 1 (45:06):
But that's the thing. Look, it's not difficult to see
because this is who Lane Kiffin is. He's like Bill Parcells, right,
he got to go back and explain to Jenner or
Shesson Bill Parcelson in a minute. Bill Parcells a great
head coach, but could only coach for a few years
before he got happy feet had to go someplace else. Right,
you go back to Lane Kiffin because everybody moves around.
You become a head coach, things slow down for you. No, no,

(45:27):
no no. Lane Kiffin goes from USCOC in two thousand
and six, right him in Sarkisi, and that was when
they were Hey, the co OC's for the for USC
they were both so good and sark has gone on
to be a head coach. Lane Kiffin went to be
the head coach of the Raiders. Then he was the
head coach Tennessee for a year, then head coach at
USC for three years, then the OC at Alabama, then

(45:48):
the head coach at Florida Atlantic, head coach at Ole Miss,
head coach at LSU. That is one, two, three, four five.
He has had six head coaching jobs in the last
eighteen years. And with that stint of Alabama's OC that
really gave him that second run, right that second, that
second burst. Hernan Kiffin can still be that guy. Six
head coaching jobs in the last eighteen It's not surprising

(46:11):
that he left, right, Everything, everything is on. There is
nothing surprising with this, right, It's a big story that, oh,
here's a head coach leaving and we don't see this.
Don't ever tell me we don't see anything in college football,
we've never seen. We see something brand spanking new and
crazy in college football every day because there's no rules,
So don't tell all that's unbelievable. But the thing that
I want to get to that no one's really talking
about with this is that, Okay, why Lsu? Why why

(46:37):
this job? I get leaving money ole Miss? I get
leaving ole Miss. I understand that, Well, how many years
are you really going to make ole Miss into a
college football playoff contender?

Speaker 7 (46:48):
Right?

Speaker 1 (46:48):
How many years is that going to happen? Hey, I
got my eye in the brass ring. I want to
get back up a little bit higher. I was a
head coach at usc Man. I want to go. I
want to I wanted to be That was what a
disaster that was? But like what but you could have
gotten They were to have give him ten million dollars
a year, They would have give him a lifetime contract.
He would have had so much time to stay at

(47:10):
ole Miss and then debate his next move if he
wanted to, if he wanted to go, he had everything
and he could have stayed. But again, happy feet, But Lsu,
LSU is not a great job. You know you're getting,
You're getting all sorts of of interference from the governor
that's getting involved in Hey, we're talking about bytes. And
I love that LSU's got money because apparently they have

(47:32):
more money than any school in the country because they
can pay at Orser and they can pay Brian Kelly.
Now they can pay Lane Kiffin.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
They'll be paying Brian Kelly thing and then all of
a sudden they ca yeah, we'll just pay him.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
All right, he gets we got to bring Lane Kiffin
and we'll just give him the money. Right, I mean,
where do you have all where? I mean I get
it the year, But where do you have all that money?
But why LSU? This is not Lane Kiffen in a
position to succeed. He is a head coach of a
ten and two team that is happy to be in
the playoff, right and near there? You overachieved here. This
is what will be expected at LSU every single year.

(48:04):
You expect this from LSU every single year. If this
doesn't happen, how long until you are fired? Two years?
What's slang? Kiffen? Apparently they print money at LSU, and
so it's gonna be okay, I think and order it
is actually on the money that they're paying Brian Kelly
off with you see, they have the money, they can
do this. You went to LSU, Are you really in

(48:25):
a position to succeed there. I get that you're gonna
have expectations when you go to the big schools, and
I understand that, but you're going to another school in
the same conference that with a guy that went to
a national championship game in Brian Kelly, oh, by the way,
who by the way, was a pretty good head coach
and still is a pretty good head coach, and he
couldn't win at LSU. He couldn't win enough there. You

(48:47):
now have the parody aspect of college football is so
great that you now have to worry about teams off
the radar every year getting an nil year together being
able to pay guys. Hey, you see some teams now
they're gonna be playing in the in the College Football
Playoff that you wouldn't expect to be there every couple
of years. You expect to be all the blue bloods

(49:09):
all the time. But now it's not. It's a bigger,
it's a more, it's a more. It's a wider landscape
of teams that can contend on a year to year
basis every year. It's not gonna be a team like Indiana,
but there will be in Indiana or two every year.
You've now gone to a place where they are expecting
two losses at most at most and the playoff every

(49:31):
single year. And if that doesn't happen in two years,
you're out and you're trying to start your college career
again someplace else, a little bit smaller like Ole Miss,
to get back there. I get wanting to leave, I understand,
but this simply was a job he took where he's
getting two million more a year, Okay, getting too many more?
You Ole Miss would have paid you. You would have gotten

(49:51):
that money. You would have been able to figure out
your own buy You would have called everything. I want
the buy out to be this. I wanted to be this.
I wanted to be this. You could have called your
shots and the next great opportunity that opens up, Hey,
that's the job I really want now. I don't know
what that job is going to be, but in a year,
who knows where things could be. Michigan's job could be
open in a year. Searan Moore doesn't win next year

(50:11):
with Bryce Underwood, and he disappoints again guess what. The
Michigan job is going to be open. That's a great
bleeping job.

Speaker 7 (50:17):
Man.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
What if in a year from now, Ryan Day leaves
to go coach the Giants, right, like, what all of
a sudden, Ohio State. That's an unbelievable job. There are
better jobs that would be open. I feel he jumped
to this job because, hey, it was a chance to
go to a really good program, a step up. But
you go and put yourself in a position where you
can fail really easy and the expectations are going to

(50:40):
be way too high. Few I don't get why this
was where he went.

Speaker 7 (50:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
I think a lot of it comes back to and
all of you out there, whatever your job is, whatever
your career, personal aspirations are. Hell even so much as
going to take a trip, it's like, oh, I'll get
there someday. Maybe you don't. Right for Lane Kiffen, four
double digit win seasons the last five years at all Miss,

(51:05):
everything's cruising along. Now, Florida opens, Penn State opens, LSU
opens in season. Right, this weird convergence of events where
you've got three massive schools where suddenly the head coaching
job and you don't know if that's gonna happen next year,
Like to your point, they could. Dude's nine and three

(51:26):
at Michigan. Has it been a clean, consistent year. No,
he's still nine and three. I mean that's still by
most standards. And this goes back to our Jim Harbaugh
conversations of years ago to pull the curtain back for
folks when we were arguing before the championship run of
you gotta recognize what you are right just because you
have a run up, and you eventually got it with

(51:47):
Jim Harbaugh. Those days of BeO Shembeckler are really a
long time ago, and the Lloyd Carr Championship that's a
long time ago. There was a lot of mediocrity and
coaching churn before you got back to where you're at.
But the point is, overall, year to year, you don't
know when these jobs are going to become available, and
everybody has you know, the old seven year itch, five

(52:09):
year itch, whatever your time. You know, timetable is sometimes
when you've got it good, you don't know it so
you've changed it. And no, I'm not going to start
singing Cinderella, but it's it's just that idea that you've
got an opportunity, and the Florida ended up being a
non starter. Right, we're seeing all the reports of immediate
discord with the powers that being administrators there to where

(52:32):
that became a all right pivot kind of moment initially, LSU,
you've got some new people in charge and decision making,
and you've probably got a lot of promises about what
you can have because the salaries, salaries the easiest thing
to match. It's everything else that has to flow in
the infrastructure whatever. To your point, Yeah, within two years,

(52:53):
the wolves are at the door. If you're not winning consistently,
you go and get blown out by Alabama insert other
team here that wants to be your rival in the moment. Yeah,
and you stayed in conference, so you're gonna have an
eye over at all Miss the whole time as well
with what they're doing. And this new nil world is
still being navigated, right, the inclusion of all these general managers,

(53:16):
all of this stuff. It's a new world order for
Lane Kiffin. He decided these were big jobs that were
available now. Old Miss he'd outgrown it, he'd had his reclamation,
his rehabilitation, whatever, and then he was able to try
to play victim now.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
You're not gonna get longer than Brian Kelly. If anything's
gonna be less tolerance for you losing at LSU.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
I mean, yeah, a lot of people that know Brian
Kelly didn't like him, but nationally he seemed to get
a pass. Yeah, whereas Lane Kiffin, there's a giant spotlight
on you right now.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
I mean, I get everything about Lane Kiffin accepted, like,
this is the job you're leaving for. You see what
kind of a mess this is. This is the job
where you want to be able to go somewhere where
I will succeed here, and I'm gonna get every single
chance I can to succeed. He cand had three straight
losing seasons at almost They're gonna say no, no, no, But
look at how great it was and we're in the
play off. It okay, I can bide my time because

(54:07):
the next great opportunity will be there, right, I'm not
I know that. We can say, well, you know, maybe
Michigan's open, but maybe it's a different gig that's open.
Maybe USC comes open again in a couple of years. Hey,
we've got Lane Kiffin coming back in to day I
hire him on the tarmac, Right, But we fired you
here or hiring you here right on this spot. But
that's but that's the thing is that there are great
opportunities that are coming out every year. I don't know

(54:29):
what they are, but I damn well know that there's
opportunities better than what this is at LSU. There will
be next year, the year after. I don't get why
this that makes sense.