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Veejey Vernon Huskey and Arnie Spanier recap the CFP Quarterfinals. They also preview the CFP Semifinals and week 18 in the NFL.

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Speaker 3 (00:29):
Yes, sir, and a happy New Year to all of
our lovely, beautiful, faithful listeners out there. Fox Sports Radio Land.
I am VJ Vernon Husky, the big Vanilla sports Poppy
withit my man Ani Spayn. We're in tonight for Jason
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Speaker 2 (00:51):
Friend Mike Harmon.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
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Speaker 2 (00:57):
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Line up tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
Arnie and I were just so on forty eight hours
ago on New Year's Eve, together great crew and the
best update guy in the business, the Sega's in the building.
My guy I got look, I got a personal thing
with my guy that's producing the night like my man
lead the lap in the building, and I don't get
to work with Lee.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
But Lee was.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
The first guy ten years ago. Lee, you can believe
it was that long ago, ten years ago. Before I
got a key card, I used to have to knock
on the door. Here, I had to knock on the
back door to get it. The first guy to push
that latch and let me in and introduce himself to
me for me to sit in and observe Mike Hill
and Kurt Morrison, who were Mike Hill was over rafis one.

(01:41):
Kurt Morris is doing a great job for the Raiders
and the Rams on his career to sit in, just
sit in on their show. Lead the lap is in
here tonight man. And then of course I mean the
man on the board man, my man at the technician himself,
Alex big Man, Tyshan in the building, the Vegan, the
Edith fool out of a watermelon bowl like this, dude.

(02:02):
If it's healthy, Alex does it. If it's healthy, Alex doesn't.
He's in person, well my juice, and I'm like, nah, bro,
you're the man. You'd a man so but also too,
I would be remiss if I didn't introduce my great host.
We've hosted so many holidays and after holidays all over
time slot. You can hear him here on Sunday evenings
on his show The Stinking Genius. If you want to

(02:23):
follow him over on X my man Arnie Speyers in
the building tonight, man, what's going on?

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Brother?

Speaker 4 (02:28):
Happy Jay, Happy New Year to you, Happy New Year
to all the listeners.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Lead you know, I gotta tell you, this is like
one of.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
The best days to be on because it's after the holidays,
it's a Friday. It's you got the college football playoffs,
you got the NFL, you got the NBA college basketball,
you got just about everything.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
You're right, NHL is popping the night, So it's great.

Speaker 4 (02:53):
Can I I just want to say one thing, because
you know, we only have one rule among us, and
I'm talking about you, me, the listeners, all the sports
fans out there. We have one rule. We have a
sports fan Code of Conduct. Because without the sports fan
Code of Conduct, we have chaos, anarchy, things go crazy.

(03:13):
There's only one rule in the sports fan Code of Conduct,
and IOWA saym broke that tonight when he texts me,
why are your Arizona Wildcats losing?

Speaker 2 (03:23):
When they're down twenty four to nothing?

Speaker 4 (03:24):
You don't text another man when his team is down
twenty four to nothing.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah, I know, why why not?

Speaker 3 (03:30):
I'm saying it's a good it's against the code of conduct.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
You know what.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
I will be taking a vote tonight on the air.
Safety should be fired. Okay, don't you don't break the
code of conduct. We only have one rule. That's the
one rule, and he broke it. But happy New Year
by Wildcats decided not to play today.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
But that's okay. Too many oppounds, but lots to talk about,
lots going on in the world.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
Well, according to you, bowl games don't matter. They don't.
That's to get rid of him. And I thought about
that when I was watching Arizona gets spanked up and
down the field like a five year old that didn't
listen to his dad on the fourth or fifth time
a sey. Now stop jumping on the sofa. Now you
gotta pay the pipe, you gotta pay the price. And
I thought about you, because I said, man, I bet
he's in his feelings about this game. I know he's

(04:17):
watching him. But this is the same man just forty
eight hours ago, for about good eight nine minutes go
back and forth with me about bold games mean nothing.
They need to get rid of him, and now you're
upset because I was Sam, who text you? Why are
they getting crushed now? I disagree this this fan code
of conduct. I agree with there's a fan code of conduct.

(04:39):
But I do believe in our business, yes, being that
we talk so much trash to each other. We talked
so much junk.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
To each other. We troll each other.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
This is and it's all in fair, it's all in love,
it's all in good hearted stuff, man, But we always
do it to each other. Hey, brother, you gotta take
your lumps.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Man.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
I see I see your Twitter, and I see you.
I've done enough shows with you. You don't let things
go by. You throw stuff up too, man. So you lucky.
You're lucky I didn't hit you out.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
I want to say.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
The only thing that bothers me is, first of all,
I'm watching because I went to Arizona.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
I'm not watching because it's a Bowl game.

Speaker 4 (05:17):
But right before the game, about an hour before the game,
we found out that our top three defensive players were
going to opt out of the game, and two more
were heard and game over at that point, I mean,
our captain I think, was out of the game. And
it was not it's not just us, so I'm not
gonna make that big of a.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Deal about it.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
But but VJ, if every team is going to have
like five or ten guys opt out, it just really
defeats the purpose.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Sure, maybe you get to see the.

Speaker 4 (05:42):
Young kids and who's going to play next year. Maybe
that's fun for you and me, and hey maybe I'm like, hey,
this kid could be a good next year.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
Remember, and you enjoy that stuff.

Speaker 4 (05:52):
I enjoy that stuff, But you know it's not a
representative of what we have done this year, and.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
A lot of teams are like that.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
That's why I said that about the ball games.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
Listen, man, I know they get ratings though I know
that absolutely not just ratings, memories, the whole. Now, I'm
not about to go cass with you again because we
had some great football played in college yesterday.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
So let's get right into it, man.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
The college semi finals, the final four is now set.
We will see the Caines and Marti christ ball. We
will see the Ducks out of Eugene. We're gonna see
the number one overall team, the only team that is
still undefeated. I definitely want to ken on them because
you asked me a question. Two nights ago. I told
you I needed to watch yesterday I would have an

(06:36):
answer for you tonight, and I have an emphatic answer
for you tonight, and then we will see the Laane
Kiff in the lists, oh miss in the final four.
So just great matchups yesterday. Let's start with the first
game that was on. Oregon takes out Texas Tech twenty
three to nothing. And I'm gonna let you have this
one because I have a simple question for you.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
Now.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
I normally balk at when people ask, but I think
when you watched this game and put the tape on.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
It's a very fair question. Yeah this game?

Speaker 3 (07:08):
Or did Texas Tech quarterback, running back, in offensive coordinator
lose this game?

Speaker 4 (07:13):
Well, first of all, it wasn't the prettiest games. I
understand that. Very surprised.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
I don't know what.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
I was more surprised about Oregon's offense.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Sputtering the way it did, even though they put up
twenty three.

Speaker 4 (07:22):
Or Texas Taks offense sputtering the way they did, and
I thought they had the best offense in the entire country.
So I was surprised about that. If you would have
told me that Texas Tech would put up zero points.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
I would have thought you were out crazy. Took that
bad all day?

Speaker 4 (07:37):
Could you imagine? I always think I thought of the
first thing that came to my mind was Jille Winder.
What kind of odds I could have gotten on Texas
Tech being shut out?

Speaker 2 (07:45):
Right? Probably like five hundred the water or something. It was.

Speaker 4 (07:51):
It was absolutely insane. Moregan's defense got to give them
a lot of credit. I thought that was they were fantastic.
Oregon did play sloppy. They played like that the next round.
But Texas Tech, how disappointing is that you couldn't get
points on the board, You got shut out, You played sloppy,
you turned the ball over. Oregon's defense did a phenomenal job.

(08:13):
If anything, VJ. I thought it would be a high
scoring affair being close to that number.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
I don't remember.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
Did I give you a fifty or fifty five?

Speaker 2 (08:20):
With fifty fifty one and a half, okay, I took
the under. Okay, So I'm like, I thought, maybe you'd
be close to that.

Speaker 4 (08:27):
It'd be at least in the forties, you know, maybe
a twenty four to twenty one. I said before the game,
it could be a coin flip either way. I wouldn't
be surprised if Oregon won by three or Tech won
by three. Remember, it was only a six nothing game
at halftimes, so as bad as Texas Tech played in
the first half, still in the game, and even with
their offense it was only thirteen was a thirteen nothing

(08:49):
at the end of the third.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
That's nothing for Tech.

Speaker 4 (08:53):
They could score fourteen points in six point two seconds
or something like that. So it was still their game,
but they they was just never their day. I love
more the quarterback for Oregon. I'm a big fan of his.
I talked with Chris Pike about him a lot, and
I know he'd like to have him on the Raiders.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
But get better sports slot and get down that's what
you better do.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
Well, there's there'll be a lot of that where they
get way gotta meet.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
He takes way too many hits.

Speaker 4 (09:17):
So there's a lot of quarterbacks stay too many hits.
But Oregon, they advanced. It was one of those survive
and advanced, and I think that's.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
What Oregon did.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
So when you look at Texas Tech office, because I
really want a key on this, here's their points just
just to start the year. Sixty seven, sixty two forty five.
Then they win thirty five, thirty four, forty two. Then
they lose by four at Arizona State. It was twenty two.
They only put twenty two on the bore. They lose.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
Then they come back forty two, forty three, shut out.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
Excuse me, b Yu hold them to a touchdown, twenty nine,
shut out Central Florida forty eight nothing, shut out whats
Virginia in a row?

Speaker 2 (09:52):
Forty one nothing?

Speaker 3 (09:53):
Then beat BYU again in their championship game thirty four,
and then they come out and put up goose, saying,
I gotta be honest with you, man, I saw so
many flaws in Oregon and they're coaching yesterday. Why are
you going for it on so many fourth downs early
in the game. Your side of the field, their side

(10:15):
of the field. They weren't converting them some of those
play cards. Two nights ago, we watched the fourth down
and you said, well, revision is history. I said, no,
I would agreed. I agreed that Ryan Day was going
for that fourth down. To me, you can go for it,
but what play are you running, What play are you calling?
Who are you getting the ball to. I'm so sick

(10:36):
of watching teams on fourth and two, run rpo and
try to get to the perimeter. They're already gonna be
rushing from the end and probably sending a backer or
a nickelback or viper back to safety, somebody extras coming
on fourth and two. So you're better just lining up
my eleven against your eleven. I'm gonna get twenty four inches.
Can you stop me?

Speaker 2 (10:56):
No? Right?

Speaker 3 (10:57):
Trying to run wide left and why right row? Now,
it was a disaster as Flores play calling. That's why
I asked the question. I thought Texas Tech lost this
game because they turned the ball over so many times
and then the last turnover inside their own red zone.
I said it when Texas Tech defense had to run

(11:18):
back out onto the field once again, without even getting
a chance to put their helmets on the little holders
and pick up some iPads and see what's going on.
They had to run right back out there. I said,
this is an inception in the zone. Was no, no, no,
that was the fumble. That was the quarterback sack fumble
that they recovered. That was that was a oujung la.
That was the kind of the strip sack kind of

(11:39):
fumble play he had. But if you watch that run
to play. Rodriguez is the best in the business at linebacker.
He looked like he was done, even just kind of
reaching for that running back. He didn't put his full
body into it.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
He did that right.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
There was a telltale sign that the defense is like,
come on, man, you guys got it. We're holding a
high powered offense to six points an half, holding no
more on multiple fourth downs, and you guys can't give
us at least move the ball, then punt. We'll play
a field position. But to have to run back out
there time and time again. Man, I just, I honestly

(12:13):
thought Texas Tech just completely choked.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
This thing away.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
And I mentioned this on Thursday, two nights ago, and
we were on on Wednesday night. Is that these type
of games, man, when you haven't been used to playing
in these type of games, it shows up in the
little things and little things in football, in my opinion,
calls turnovers your thoughts.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
Well, I don't know if you ever heard the expression
dance with who brung you?

Speaker 2 (12:36):
You know, right?

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Right?

Speaker 2 (12:37):
Which right?

Speaker 4 (12:38):
And so I understand why Oregon went for it. They
did that all the year long. Maybe you do change
your thinking when you get to a big playoff game
like that, which which is a good point. Do you
change what got you this far? You know, because they
always went for touchdowns. You say, hey, well, look, this
is a playoff game. We're up six to nothing. Let's
get Tony nothing or let's call this play. But this

(13:00):
is what they've done all year, so I can understand
why they're doing that.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
You know, dance with the girl who brung you for
nineteen on third down?

Speaker 4 (13:07):
I know.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
And let me tell you something.

Speaker 4 (13:09):
As for Texas Tech being bad offensively, yeah, Morton was
just absolutely horrible. Texas Tech the rushing game really never
got on track. They were absolutely miserable too. I got
to give the Oregon defense. I think we're not giving
them or I'm not giving them enough credit because they
came up with a big game. Texas Tech disappointing with
that Big Twelve. Now we're seeing maybe the Big Twelve

(13:31):
not as tough. Ooh, well, you gotta look at it
that way, because they did beat BYU. They kind of
if they murdered him there and they did score points
and BYU I think was the best defense in the
Big twelve, or one of the best defenses.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
I just got to give Oregon credit. We'll see what
they do next game, though, you know what already, I'll
go fifty to fifty with you on that.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
As far as you know, calling out the conference, I
know that's the popular thing they're doing our business. But
those four turnovers. They out rushed Oregon seventy eight to
sixty four. Oregon couldn't even run the football. Oregon's quarterback
had to just I mean more, had to just drop
back all day long and just and sleep. He threw
thirty three times, he was twenty six to thirty three.

(14:11):
He didn't throw a touchdown. He threw a pick himself. So,
I mean, it wasn't like this offense was humming. If
you just get anything, if Texas Tech gets anything, you see,
you know this is gonna start the talk. And this
is something that you were on earlier too. Steve Harmy
and my partner on end Zone Radio on Sunday, he's
big on this too.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
And I saw one of your fans tweet.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
Tweet you back when we were talking about what should
we start with, and this first round by I'm a man,
I hate to say this, I'm starting to lean towards
first of all, twelve teams is too many for me now.
I know it looks good this year because Miami it
looks like a real contender, Like Miami can win this
whole Miami can win this whole damn thing with the
way that they're playing right now.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
But if I'm not mistaken, is it seven.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
Of the first eight bys have lost a six or
seven of the first eight bys have lost. So now
this what is this by kind of is this by
even helping these teams out?

Speaker 4 (15:04):
Well, I'll say this because you're you're saying, well, maybe
we should get her to the first round.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
No, no, no, no, not get rid of the first round.
I just they always thought twelve was too many. That
That's always been my fans on the college fotball playoff.

Speaker 4 (15:16):
I've never if you took less than twelve, then you're
gonna go ahead and take away that opening round, which
is on campus, which is like I gotta have a
on campus. But my thing is this march madness, which
what everybody loves in the first round.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Everybody loves the.

Speaker 4 (15:31):
Oh you gotta take the fifteen, got to take the
twelve seed they advanced.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
We love that stuff.

Speaker 4 (15:36):
If I told you a fifteen seed was up to
to nothing, you're like upset. Let me get to a TV.
We we eat that stuff up. Yet first rounds are
won by an average seventeen points.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Right, So even though.

Speaker 4 (15:48):
That there's still blowouts, we just crave that one one
game that what.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
Even if it's close and it's not an upset, we
crave that. We love that.

Speaker 4 (15:57):
And just because we've had some blowy in that first
round doesn't mean we have to get rid of it, because,
like I said in March Madness, they're beating people by
an average is seventeen and that's the biggest or the
best part of sports. As far as I'm concerned, is
that first round March Madness.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
So I'm okay with it.

Speaker 4 (16:15):
So we've had some bad luck with some blowouts, I'm
ready to expand it. Let's have twenty four teams and
figure it out.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
It's the more the merrier. Stop yeah, stop, are you
by the way I want you.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
To want to sto college football team playoff?

Speaker 4 (16:31):
You want to know why if you look at every
sports that we have, that's all we've done.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
We've expanded the playoffs, and.

Speaker 4 (16:37):
I mean we have to do with the college for no, no,
but we expanded it in baseball, football, basketball. We want
to expand it in March madness. Look we've gone, Look Comach,
We've gone in March madness. So it's always about expanding
the postseason because that's what people love the most. And
I'm loving this the most. So I'm okay with twenty

(16:57):
four teams.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
I'm like I said, I.

Speaker 4 (17:00):
Could care less about some of these earlier Bowl games.
I go love Arizona. The only reason I'm watching. Nobody
else is watching Arizona SMU or wake Forest.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
I can't even tell you we could remember wake Forest
was playing. So I don't think anybody's toooting it for that.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
I guarantee you that that Arizona game today drew more
than an NBA average game, ANBA average four point eight million.
I guarantee you that NBA wait less. Well, I'm sorry,
you know, I'm sorry. I'm thinking of the Christmas Day numbers. Yeah,
we talked about that two nights and I'm sorry, and
someone was trying to argue. Someone was trying to argue
with me, Uh, the NBA still has Christmas Day. I said, okay, Well,

(17:38):
twenty one to five million doesn't say that. Twenty one
million viewers and this was the Dame Christmas Day that
had what three, three backup quarterbacks starting, and I mean,
I'll give him a little bit. Four or five million
is not well on Christmas Day for the NBA needs
not be more than that. But but back to the
twenty fourteen playoff that you are just crazy talking about.

(17:59):
Number one, it's never gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Number two.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
You you totally obliterate the regular season, which is why
we tune in every Saturday.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
Listen. You and I owe both old enough.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
I remember something called the BCS and I like the BCS,
and people thought I was crazy, but I'm like, look, man,
it means every Saturday.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
Brother.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
Look, if you lose, it better be in the ninth
month of the year. It better be in September. Do
you got a chance to make it up? But if
you lose after October fifteenth, October sixteenth, you could be done.
And I just thought that it just made the college
football season at that point just much more important. And
if you widing the playoffs, I think you diminished that.

(18:37):
We'll get into more of this. I want to talk
about some of these other games and touch on to this,
these these monster games. Yesterday one was the rose Ball
and I'm desperate to get your opinion on that, because
we had big opinions that we thought was going to
happen on this one, and I don't think anybody thought
was gonna happen what happened yesterday.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific. Arnie, great, quick first hour.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
Man, Let's jump right into the second hour, and I
just text you a few minutes to go through a
little curveball, because with the success in postseason sports comes disappointment, Right,
there's always a success story and then there's always a
disappointment storing And I'll let you run this and start
this one first. Who do you think, either a player, coach,

(19:28):
or team overall? And the college football playoffs so far,
who's been the most disappointing to you so far?

Speaker 2 (19:35):
Well?

Speaker 4 (19:35):
Disappointing wise, Well, it comes down to two teams for me,
Ohio State and Texas Tech. But Texas Tech in their
offense at least the defense showed up and did a
great job against the Oregon offense. So really the biggest
disappointment has to be Ohio State. When they were a
two seed, they played a ten seed. They were about
a touchdown favorite. Matter of fact, could have been seven

(19:56):
and a half. Who knows what it was at kick.
I don't know what it was, but it was a
about a touchdout.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
No, it was ten, ten, it was ten. There were
double digits, there were ten.

Speaker 4 (20:04):
It went down the nine and a half, the ten
point favorite. Uh. They didn't show up offensively. They got
shut out in the first half. And I know that
Miami had to pick six.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
But Miami, you know.

Speaker 4 (20:16):
I never felt like they were going to lose the game,
even though they were. Oh help me, oh State made
a little bit of a comeback. We know that Miami
was the better team that day. So I think the
most disappointing team has to be Ohio State. Uh, and
what they went through right now with that loss because
Texas Tech at Leaves lost to a team that was
favored over him.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
I'm with you on that. It's it's it's Ohio State.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
But I'll go deeper. It's not just Ohio State, it's
Ryan Day.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
I figure you were gonna go after.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
Ryan Day because I just told you this and told
the world up two nights ago.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
He's a really, really, really.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
Really good coach. But he's not a great coach. He's
not an excellent coach, and he danced shore. It's not
an elite coach. Because you know what those type of
coaches do. They win playoff games, win they're ten point favorites.
I don't give a damn if you only win by
a point or two, but you win, you find a
way to win the game. I'm actually gonna let the

(21:14):
kids off the hook because the coach has to put
them in better position. Not being able to run the
football the way they got out rushball over.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
One hundred yards the other night.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
Okay, the Kings punched them in the mouth and pushed
them around. Really actually got more physical than them in
the Big Ten is known for what it's known for,
our physicality. Look what Indiana did the Alabama I say
in the Rose Bawl, What was that about physicality up front?
What did Oregon's defense do to Texas tex offense yesterday

(21:45):
and the Orange Bowl in Miami? Physicality up front, punch
you in the mouth, push you around, take another grown
young man and move him where you want him.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
To go against his own will.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
That's football one oh one and that comes from a
lot of coaching and Ryan day. I don't care about
the seventy nine and ten record. And let me tell
you something, when you got that kind of talent, you
should be better than seventy nine and ten. Let's not
act like the Big ten's been world beaters. They just
got Oregon and as seeing some of these other schools
over there, Indiana just got good the last two years.

(22:17):
He's dropping games every year. He can't even go undefeated. Like,
really think about it, he can't even go undefeated. Harbaugh
went undefeated, won a national championship. You got Indiana sitting
undefeated right now, looking like they're gonna go win a
national championship. I just think that the biggest disappointment coming
off of a national championship season where he lost two games,
which is weird, but coming off of that year having

(22:38):
all the money that they have. Jeremiah Smith their receiver.
Do you know where he ranks as far as NIL
paid players. Oh yeah, he's number two behind who arch Manny.
He's got the second biggest nil and domin coming to
him paycheck wise, and the second biggest all of FBS.
Number one is arch Man. Number two is his receiver.
That guy needs fifteen targets. Yesterday, man, like, you gotta

(22:58):
throw that guy the ball over and over and over.
You make the defense have to cover him, and they
just didn't do that. And to me, that's just coaching.
And he just he has these moments at the podium
afterwards where it's almost like he's looking for sympathy, just
the way he talks his body language, like, dude, come on,
you have the most talent. You're the reignted champions. There

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were people that came back, kids like really came back
that could have went to the pros. They want to
come back and beat Michigan and not lose four in
a row. And they want, excuse me, five in a row.
They lost four in a row. They want to lose
five in a row, and they wanted to repeat as
champion and you couldn't even get out of the first
round of the playoffs. I just think that not them.
I'm gonna give the kids and the players a break.
I'm throwing this solely one hundred percent. The most disappointing

(23:45):
anything so far in the college football playoff has been
Ryan Dack.

Speaker 4 (23:49):
Well, it's been disappointing, but I'm not gonna say that
about Ryan. Day one, first of all, he wouldn't. He's
won eighty five percent, eighty six percent.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Of his does ones that matter.

Speaker 4 (23:59):
I'm not sure how much better he can get. He's
been eighty two and twelve. What would have been better
had he only lost six games?

Speaker 2 (24:06):
No games?

Speaker 4 (24:07):
Sure, he could be eighty ninety four. No, he has
a national championship. How many coaches can put that on
the resume? Also, I think you're being a little hard
of him. That doesn't mean he's not responsible for the
loss to Miami, because I think him and the team
are and there's no doubt about that, and it certainly
wasn't his you know, wasn't his best moment. But I

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think overall he's a damn fine coach. I never said
he's a Hall of Fame or anything like that, but
I think people, especially in Columbus, had too harsh.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
On this guy. To be honest with.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
You, he's responsible for this loss. He's responsible for the
Indy law. Do you know Ohio State their last two games,
they scored twenty four points total total? Twenty four points total,
that's what they scored. He's responsible for four losses to Michigan,
the Indiana loss.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
He's responsible for all of Miami.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
No, there are times they have lost games where like
a few years ago Oregon beat them.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
Oregon, it kind of just had their number.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
He coached twelve that day and I even admitted the
fourth and two he went for on and when they scored,
how because they threw the ball to who Jeremiah Smith.
You get the ball to your best players, which I've
always said he doesn't always do the best job at
two years ago. He wanted to prove that he can
muscle Michigan and run with Michigan instead of throwing. We

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were severely out manned as far as the perimeter was concerned.
But he wanted to prove that we could just line
up and punch Michigan in them. No, you can't. Our
defensive line sent three guys to the NFL, two of
them in the first round, one to the Browns, once
to the Dolphins. You don't have that type of power.
You know you got the power.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
Our quarters are.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
Weakened this year. We lost Mikey Sanders. Still, we lost
Will Johnson to the NFL. We lost the safety to
the NFL. That's where you should be attacking. No, that's coaching.
That's what I mean by games. You should win because
you have better players. And then games you should win
because you have better players and you are being coached.

Speaker 4 (26:07):
Well, who's a better coach now, Whittingham or or Ryan Day.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
Winningham is the best coaching? Well, Winny Haam right now, because.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
I gotta give I gotta no, no, no, I.

Speaker 3 (26:20):
Gotta give Kurse Signetti his props. Kurse Signetti right now
is the best coach in the Big Ten. He's the
best coach in the Big Ten. And they're gonna beat
Oregon again. They're gonna beat Oregon again. Oregon doesn't have
a chance in this game. They don't, Man, they don't.
They don't their offense listen, and the and has got
a defense that will punch you in the mouth. Okay,
Texas Tech's got a defense that will punch you in

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the mouth. Texas Tech defense did their job. Texas Tech's
offense didn't give them nothing. But that's not that's not
Mendoza that wears a Texas Tech University uniform. That's not
mendo This quarterback. They're gonna face it. This is the
Heisman Trophy winner. And think about it. They beat them
back in what was that September October when they went
out there to Alton and Eugene and beat them.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
This is now all this time, all these games.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
You got to Penn State, comeback, you beat Ohio State,
You thrash Alabama and the rose ball for the world
to see. Speaking of that, just real fast, quick sidebar.
Do you think any different of Kaylen Deboor over the
last two years coming from Washings Cause this this ay,
this isn't Seattle, buddy, This isn't Washington nine and three,
ten wins, got to the National championship game against Michigan

(27:26):
and got trounced. Right, got to the got National champions
games against Michigan and got trounced. Should have lost to
Texas in the semi final game. Texas is right there
overthrowing the end zone, losing that game. Quinn Arrows, rookie
quarterback nown for the Dolphins, and you look at Chalin now,
is do you have any questions or is it just
he's you know, it's only his second year, Bama. He's

(27:47):
got to get his you know, gotta get his own
players in, gotta get his system going. Are you starting
to kind of look at this guy and say, hey,
look man, you know eleven and four is not gonna
cut it in Tuscaloosa.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
No, I won't cut it. Maybe year four or five,
but not right now. I'm completely fine.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
I'm not saying fire them, but you know, are you
kind of like you might be a little outmatched here, buddy,
because there are a lot of people that didn't think
they should have got it.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Would you had have had them in over notre to day.

Speaker 4 (28:12):
I would have had him in an over note to day. Okay,
so I would have. But I do I do have
a question for you. Sure you know you were talking
about the first game between Indiana and Oregon, and of
course Indiana beat him thirty to twenty, and that was
back in Oregon. My only question is they beat him
pretty you know, pretty well?

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (28:30):
Then they went ahead and Indiana is playing their best
football right now. Look what they put up in the playoffs.
Why do you think the line is only four to
Neutral Site after they went by in Oregon and Vegas
is usually pretty good and stuff like that. The way
you're talking, you make it sound like Indiana should be
like a nine or ten point face.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
I do well six and a half. I would give
any in the six and a half.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
I think from the tape when I put the tape
on of these two teams, I would say Indiana is
a touchdown better. I would I would think Indiana is
a touchdown better. Listen, Organ couldn't run the ball. Oregon
could not run the ball against Texas Tech. They only
ran for sixty three yards. They better put up a
whole lot more rushing yards if they think they're gonna
just drop back Dante more against this defense.

Speaker 4 (29:13):
Well, but Donthey Moore didn't have a lot of yards
the first time they played. In the end, he had
listened to under yard. I had two interceptions, which was
the one.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
An interception stealed the game.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
So one interceptions late, that's fine, But at the end
of the day, you better be able to run the
ball in order to keep the ball out of Mendoza's hands,
because this offense is humming right now. He's got tight ends,
he's got receivers, he's got slot guys, he's got dude,
they got three running backs, like two of them scored yesterday.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
Like when he scored.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
The commentator Chris Fowler goes up and it's his turn,
Like when you're hear a commentator say it's his turn.
Brou that means they have a revolving door at the
running back position, and those linemen, the are all healthy
and they're just moving people where they want them to go.
And the running backs are seeing the holes. And once
they get two three four yards into the secondary or

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the you know, the the front seven get to the linebackers,
they're running through arm tackles and breaking tackles. Man, I
I could see Indiana winning this thing by a touchdown
or more.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
I really could. I didn't. I was not impressed with Oregon.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
Oregon to me, for the last two to three years,
has just always been a cuss team. Like, you know,
they're good, you know they're powerful, you know they got
great players. That freshman Finny Junior, that true freshman corner
who already has NFL size, who's already like what six
two sixty three, two ten, two fifteen as a freshman,
he's already an NFL corner right now, was all over

(30:39):
the field making plays, two picks and a fumble recovery. Uh, yesterday,
I just I look at Oregon. They just always seem
to be this cuss team. You know they got talent, man,
but do you ever really trust them to close the
door and seal the National championship deal.

Speaker 4 (30:56):
And I don't even know if this makes a difference,
but Indiana had such an easy time. They even replaced
their quarterback but with my brother in the but halfway
through the fourth I mean, really they had they you know,
coasted to their victor.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
They could have scored fifty.

Speaker 4 (31:12):
No, but they I'm just saying, it's like they had
a half a bye week. And what certainly wasn't the
case with Oregon, who played their starters throughout the entire
game right and clinch the game against Texas Tech. So
I'm wondering because if Indiana had such an easier time,
they'll be a little bit fresher than Oregon is for
the game coming up.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
Also too, with Oregon in this game coming up, they
they better figure out some different protections for more. He
took way too many hits and got up twice limping.
I don't like that.

Speaker 4 (31:41):
Now.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
I know he's not hurt, but if you thought Texas
Tech was was punching you in the mouth, this Indiana
defense is going to do the exact thing.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
Curzignetti is a guy who just.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
He he's old school. Remember he spent four years on
a Satan's staff. He knows what it's like to be
in these moments. He knows what it's like to have
his kids prepared. Did you see him smile one time yesterday?

Speaker 4 (32:03):
No, it's at all, But I did like the look
he gave when they were pretending they were going forward
on fourth down. Say they come out that crap doesn't
go with me. And by the way, he does look
like the the actor from Bossom Buddies that was across
from Tom Hanks.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
I forget the guy's name from those you've never seen
the TV show from Buzz and Buddies.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
I know, because I think it's like with this basketball
show and this this guy. Last time we did what
was it Thanksgiving night? We were you guys put me
onto something?

Speaker 2 (32:32):
Oh that show.

Speaker 4 (32:33):
I think his name is Old White Shadow. I think
I think it was like Peter Skull, Laura or something.
Was the actor from Bosom Buddies. Him and Signetti. I mean,
they could be like twins lost separated at birthday.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
Just he reminds me of a He looks like the
bad guy from a James Bond movie, right, like the
old Pearson, the Pierce Bronson when Pierce Bronson.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Played uh, double O seven, Like he.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
Just looks like one of those bad guys like from
gold Finger from uh way back in the day. All right,
this other uh there's a semifinal matchup that we have
coming up to man, big time game, Ole Miss Miami can.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Are we are we on?

Speaker 3 (33:12):
Are we on pace to see Indiana Old Miss National
Championship game?

Speaker 2 (33:18):
Who the hell would have picked that back in August?

Speaker 4 (33:20):
Yeah, I'm just wondering what the ratings is gonna be
for something like that. Obviously, the the ratings are gonna
be fine.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
I don't know they're gonna be well.

Speaker 4 (33:27):
I mean, I think if you want to have maximum ratings,
I believe they'd like to see Miami in there. I'm
just wondering, is Indiana now considered, you know, like the powerhouse?

Speaker 1 (33:40):
Now?

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Are they one of the blue bloods or are they
you considered him? Ask yourself that would you consider Indiana?
I would? Why not? My thing was, if somebody's in
the houses in football history.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
That's what nobody cares about that, just like nobody cares
about Michigan's got the most wins in college football history
because people are gonna say, well, a bunch of those
came at this time, nobody cares about the Yankees twenty
seven National World Series championship because people are gonna say, well,
the ones in the fifties, in the sixties, nobody cares
about you know, nobody.

Speaker 4 (34:09):
Dame's champions right, right, So we care about the losses then.
So then if we're just going by the last year
or two, that's kind of hard. Well that you can't
say who's a blue blood just based on one or
two years. Then you're saying she gets out of blue
blood because they finished fifth.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
We don't win a national championship two years ago.

Speaker 4 (34:28):
But I'm talking overall general. I don't think Indiada is
close to being a blue blood.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
Just jet a powerhouse? Are they a powerhouse?

Speaker 4 (34:40):
After all the losses they've been through it They they've
turned it around. There's no doubt they are a powerhouse now.
But they've got a long way to go to catch
up to the likes of USC in Michigan and Ohio
State and schools like that.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
No doubt. Are you taking Miami with this three and
a half?

Speaker 4 (34:57):
Uh No, I'm not. I'm not mat a matter of fact,
they're laying three and a half. I'm taking the points.
I'm gonna go ahead and take mississ What I'm saying,
their favorite by three and a half? Do you have
do you have the knes winning and covering this? Are
you're taking O me, you're taking all Missus? I'm taking
oll Miss. I'm taking the points on that one. I
don't know, man, I like the three in the hook
and Ichie think they could win the game. And you
know what I think of him, was like, I'm going

(35:17):
with him. It's a great quarterback, and I think he's
actually a better quarterback than Beck, though I do like Beck.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
I like all four quarterbacks.

Speaker 4 (35:25):
To be honest with you, I don't know which ones
are gonna be better in the NFL, but I'm gonna
go with Mississippi in this one and take the points.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
I like the over under the over, and they're sitting
at fifty one and a half, and I like that
because Miami, like Ole Miss, doesn't have Ohio State's defense.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
Ohio State has a tremendous defense.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
They got Ohio State is gonna get six or seven
guys drafted off that defense this year in the first
four round. Seven guys will get drafted in the first
four rounds off that defense. Ole Miss doesn't have that
type of defense Georgia done. Listen, Georgia walked up and
down the field. They didn't stop Georgia at all. Georgia
scored thirty plus points on him. So I like the
over under I would take. I take the over on

(36:01):
the fifty one and a half, especially with this extra
time to prepare. This three and a half is scary.
I'm trying to figure out how the Canes are favored.
That's what's getting me when you see what Ole Miss
has done all year. Old Miss was a lock in
Alan Miami was last in. They were the last. It
was either between them and Notre Dame in Alabama. Those

(36:21):
are the three teams everybody was debating about. So I'm
trying to figure out, how do we get to this
point and they're three and a half point favors. This
feels like such a sucker bet. It's an inflated odds,
like such a sucker bet. The money line for Old
missus a plus one thirty six.

Speaker 4 (36:36):
If this was a first round game and there was
no games previous to this, Jeez, Mississippi I believe would
be the favorite by three and a half. This is
like a seven point turnaround based on Island Presdent, Miami
looked against Ohio State. That's what this line is telling you,
and I'm actually shocked that they went past the field goal.
If anything, if Miami was going to be fair though,
it would be about two to two and a half. Mississippi,

(36:58):
I believe, is the better team that way. I think
they'll probably get more money. Well, we'll see this line
drop before before Game three.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
I hope so I needed to come below three. If
it comes below three, I'll take my If it comes
below three, I'll take the Canes. But if it stays
anywhere where it's at now, I'm definitely going Old Miss,
and I might take Old Miss straight up.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
I want to see if this money line moves also
to really quick.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
Before we had to break Indiana four point favorite, are
you going with Oregon to cover this? I'm taking Indiana
straight up on this, and I think they covered the four.

Speaker 4 (37:29):
Indiana is probably going to cover the four. I like
Oregon plus the four way because I want them to win.
And I still think we haven't seen the best Oregon
team yet. That that offense was so it didn't look
good against Texas Tech. I'm hoping they can do a
lot better against Indiana. I want them to win. I'm
afraid Indiana is just too tough for him, right And
the words.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
Of my man, Tony Romano, Indiana defense man. I watched
them yesterday and I'm like, these guys are physical. They
were in your face. They were talking trash like Alabama.
When's the last time you seen Alabama look soft? When's
the last time you seen Alabama get pushed around on

(38:09):
a football field for four full quarters?

Speaker 2 (38:12):
This is this isn't your Nick Sabans. I get it,
but you didn't. You didn't see it last year.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
Last year the defense played well and at points this
year the defense can't remember the offense struggled early this year.
The defense had to hold this thing together and said,
the offense kind of got going this year, so it
was that was the prime. I'm sorry, that was shocking
to me.

Speaker 4 (38:29):
It's not the strongest Alabama team, so there's no doubt
about that, but they're going through a transition. Like I said,
it's like not the Nick Sabans team. And remember, you
know there was talking about divorce actually getting fired had
they not won in the first round or in the
game before that.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
So I'm curious to see.

Speaker 4 (38:46):
I thought that was a lot of the Michigan I
thought that a lot of ps.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
That was a lot of the Michigan noise.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
And we found out you and I talked about this
things given night and Black Friday. We also found out
from Kyle Willeham, which I told you guys two nights ago,
from his own mouth yesterday, that they start. He was
talking to Michigan the day after he resigned, and then
he said within a week the deal was done. The
day after he resigned, he was already talking to Michigan.

(39:10):
The kilnd the board stuff was a total smoke screen.
And once he beat once he beat Oklahoma, it was
it was yinitely.

Speaker 4 (39:18):
Like seventy million, seventy million dollars.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
Where do you get that type of body? Listen, I
don't want to hear that these seventy million.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
I go back and with Hartman and Manzi all the
time about these buyouts. I don't care about by these
schools have more money than.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
The average fan even knows. You think they got money.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
Though you think they got money, add another three hundred
million to it. So whatever you think some of these
schools got, trust me on this, add another three hundred
million to it.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
It's there, they just don't tell.

Speaker 4 (39:48):
Let's see me and doms are in the billions for something, right,
So then, like I said, whatever you think they have,
add another three hundred million to it.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
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Speaker 3 (40:05):
That's more wants in the NFL, man. Fans want to
talk about NFL. People tweet they want to get to
the NFL. So this is what we're gonna do. We'll
start with Saturday's games. We got lines, we got over runners.
But what I'm gonna throw to you is because there's
a lot of games this weekend that don't mean nothing
as far as playoffs code, right, But I do think
every game brings something because that's the NFL. Right, Like
in the NBA, if the Kings are playing the Hornets
on the last night, no one gives a damn.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
Like we don't have no questions.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
There are some NFL matchups of some bad teams that
have some questions going into the offseason. I'll throw that
at you, stinking genius, and you'll give us your reaction.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
Man.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
So let's start with tomorrow's games. Nice head to doubleheader.
We got tomorrow for the NFC South, we have the
Carolina Panthers at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Tampa Bay three
point favors over under forty three and a half. If
you want to take the Panthers on the money line
straight up as a plus one twenty four, I'll tell
you why I'm going right here. I'm sticking with my
man b Y by seeing Bryce young since he was fifteen,

(40:58):
sixteen years old out here high school, covering him when
he was there, also covering him a modern day, know him,
know his family, his mom, his dad. He's a great
young man. I love what he's done in the NFL.
Small guy getting his ass beat behind a bad line.
They need to keep fixing it. Got him some weapons,
got him a running back, got him a tight end,
got him a receiver. Gott to keep fixing these things.
But Tampa Bay has just been crap since Week eight.
I think that continues. Even though you're hearing the rumors

(41:20):
that their head coach is fine, like he's safe this
all season, they're not making looking to make any move
at the head coaching position. Give me the Panthers here,
straight up, even with the plus three, I'm just taking
the Panthers to win this game.

Speaker 4 (41:34):
Well, first of all, on bry shawng I'm sure we'll
hear after the season, there'll be somebody leaking this out.
How close he was to being thrown to the side
on this team last year he was benched. I believe
it's the end of he was for Andy Dalton right
and then, but they had to bring him back.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
But Dalton got hurt.

Speaker 4 (41:52):
Had Dalton not got.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
Hurt, who knows how this would have turned out.

Speaker 4 (41:57):
And I know who knows if what this that the other,
but he came real close to being tossed away to
the side by the Panthers. Turns around has a really
really good year. Baker Mayfield's hurt. He's not gonna say it.
They're not going to bring it up. He just does
not look like the Baker Midfield he's has the last

(42:17):
couple of years. And that's why Tampa's struggling. And I
know a lot of teams, all the teams have injuries,
but it's really taking.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
Install on Tampa. I like Carolina in this game.

Speaker 4 (42:27):
And by the way, is Donald the most underrated guy
in the entire and a Rico Listen, Dallas never wanted
to let him go.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
They said, right, that's why they didn't have much of
a choice.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
And he ran for one thousand for him. He was
a thousand yard rusher for them, and then he just
comes out of nowhere this year and he's been able
to steady that backfield. I got to push back a
little bit on the buy stuff. I thought my opinion
was they sat him down because he was getting killed
out there.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
And yes, he wasn't playing well, but he wasn't playing well.

Speaker 3 (42:57):
Because when his backfoot hits, he's got who defenders in
his face. This offensive line last year, Pro Football Focus
had it at thirty two. This year, before the season started,
it had it at thirty one. It hadn't gotten that
much better. Man, you gotta have an offensive line in
front of you. They have got to address that this offseason.
I'm not talking skill position players. This defense is a
top half defense in the league, top fifteen, eleven, twelve.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
This is a very good young defense.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
They're fine there, but first round pick, second round pick,
third round pick, and your number one or at least
your second big free agent and you go after this year.
They all need to have a oh in front of
the next letter, whether it's a og or ot, and
get this offensive line fix for Bryce Young.

Speaker 4 (43:39):
Yeah, but you know what, don't we say that to
Joe Burrow in Cincinnati?

Speaker 2 (43:44):
No, we're talking about that defense.

Speaker 4 (43:45):
No, okay, but don't we also say, though all these
teams have problems online, we say that about Miami's No,
Miami's offensive I was about to.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
Say, no running game, but they're the best centers football.

Speaker 4 (43:57):
But you know, it just seems like everybody cries about
the offensive wide, especially out there in Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
What about San Diego? I mean, excuse be the Chargers.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
Well, they gonna both tackles in the guard. That's good,
But that's not That's not all they not crying, thor Arnie,
you have. Football is in the trenches. Football starts in
the trenches. So if teams are crying about a line,
I'm not mad at them. Yeah, you gotta give me
a damn line. How the hell is everybody can't have
Joe Burrow. Everybody can't have six four six thirty pounds
or or Josh Allen. You have to have a line.

(44:28):
Even those guys when they don't have a good line
and they lose games. What do people say, well, if
their line played any better, Well, Josh Allen's got to
scramble and run so much because his line asn't playing soup.
It's always gonna be the line. People want to discredit
the number one rusher in NFL history.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
We hear all the time Emmitt Smith.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
But why is Emmitt Smith other than his own individual talent?
Why is Emmitt Smith the all time leader rusher in
NFL history? Because Jimmy Johnson assembled one of the greatest
offensive lines in NFL?

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Does is Droy and Michael have just do it that?

Speaker 3 (45:01):
Oh, if you got one of the greatest guys in
offensive history, then you can have a time to throw
the quarterback and throw the j Noviacheck. Don't forget about
Alvin Harper, Calvin Williams. Wasn't just Michael Lorvin Man. There
were so many guys. No, no, but I met that
opened up other things right where? But where did it start?
Do you remember how big Larry Allen's ass was?

Speaker 2 (45:20):
Yeah? Absolutely? Do you remember the year he remember the combine?
Like not the combine?

Speaker 3 (45:24):
Remember the competition they used to have where they would
run the forty, do the bench press and all that stuff.
Remember the day Larry Allen showed up with a mouthful
of tobacco and laid down and did two twenty five
like forty times like it was nothing like can you
imagine laying on your back and doing two twenty five?
I can only get out of about thirteen fourteen right now.
I just did it the other day in the gym.

(45:45):
I'm twenty five. I could get to about thirteen fourteen
right I'm maybe trying tomorrow. I think you ain't getting man.
You play, you play pickleball. You're not getting that up
at all. Second game tomorrow, the Seattle Seahawks having a
surprise year with Sam Darnold at quarterback, only a two
and a half point favorite. I'm trying to figure out
if this is another Vegas coup? Why their favorite San Francisco.

(46:08):
I had Vrabel as my coach of the year few
weeks ago, and I said I was gonna stick with that.
I'm probably gonna be wrong if San Francisco wins this game,
because how the hell has Mike Shanahan done this? I mean, God,
I mean these guys, yeah, but listen, I'm with you.
But if they win this game tomorrow, Warner done for
the year, Bosa done for the year, traded away? Who

(46:29):
wonts some of Deebo Samuel I you've been in and
out Chefield, I mean all these guys, and you're leaning
really on one running back that's got over like three
hundred and seventy touches this year. They're wearing his what
they're not wearing him down because he looks like he's
getting stronger at the years going on. You've had to
play your backup quarterback for four or five games. It's
how has Shanahan done this?

Speaker 2 (46:50):
Man? Kyle is just really put this thing together.

Speaker 3 (46:54):
But two and a half point underdogs at home tomorrow
night over under forty five and a half, I'm taking
the Niners here to cover it is. I think this
is a very very close football game, but I think
the Niners pulled this off. I think the Niners have
home field advantage, but I do not think they make
the Super Bowl because they can be gotten, like they
can be beaten, but I just don't think it happens

(47:16):
the morning. Give me the Niners to cover with you.

Speaker 4 (47:19):
You say, you know, how did shanahanan do it? How
did San Francisco?

Speaker 2 (47:22):
And you're right, how did some good points.

Speaker 4 (47:24):
But if you would have told me before the start
of the season that you think that the Seahawks is
gonna be the best team in the NFL, I would
have fired you on the spot. I would Okay, thank
you very much. I appreciate your ten years of service. Goodbye, Seattle.
What Seattle has done is perhaps better than what San
Francisco's done, and they did it with a quarterback where
you know Sam Darnold, who has just been fantastic this year.

(47:45):
Seattle's actually the better team than San Francisco. But I
probably would have had the line of about a pick
of ma all. So this is a big game because
if San Francisco wins this game, they probably go ahead
and make it to the super Bowl. You know, they
don't have to leave the super Bowl there. Yeah, so
they don't have to leave it all. They're done, they're
done traveling. They win today, o to be Sunday Saturday.

(48:07):
I get my days mixed up. If they win Saturday.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
We just have to midnight where you are now? So
yeah today? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (48:13):
Well whatever, If they win their next game, they don't
have to travel throughout the rest of the year and
super Bowl, they'll have all the home games. That's why
I've kind of rooting against them. This one's gonna be
a great one, probably go I'd probably go with San Francisco,
but I want Seattle to go ahead and win this game.
Over on the forty seven and a half, I'd probably

(48:34):
go with the under on this one. I just can't
see it's going to be an offensive explosion. It'll be
close to that number though, but I'd probably go with
the under.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
Give me the over. I think one of these teams
scores almost thirty. I do. I think?

Speaker 3 (48:47):
Are you a party fan or no? I'm not a fan,
but I'm not a hater. Right, he's a he's a
he's a guy to me, like like.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
He's better than that.

Speaker 3 (48:57):
He's no, no, no, I'm not saying his talent. I'm
talking about as far as whether I care or not
about it. Okay, I'm like whatever, Like I don't, I
DON'TM not a hater, but I'm not a fan. I'm
not gonna why is he not more popular? I mean
he's mister irrelevant, last big every every like.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
Kids should be like, look at him. He's the last
drop pick, last bick.

Speaker 4 (49:14):
I want to he broke all odds and I mean
that this is what sports is all about, what he's doing.

Speaker 3 (49:20):
Right, You want to know why Arnie on some real
man just get human here for saying let's take the
sports talk hats off and get human.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
We act like we like that stuff.

Speaker 3 (49:29):
We we don't, okay, we we act like, yeah, it's
a cool story, right, it's a cool story. Until he
sees something on the NFL level that he hasn't seen before,
and he goes through a little bad spurt that a
lot of rookie quarterbacks do. Then people are gonna get
behind microphones and put their headsets on, or they're gonna
put on badly put together suits and go sit on

(49:50):
debate shows on TV and trash this guy.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
This is why no one wanted them. This is no
wonder it took him so long. We will do this.
We've done it with brock Party.

Speaker 3 (49:59):
I try to stay away from stuff like that because
I understand the evan flows of pro sports and not
everyone can walk in the door and be Damn Marino
and start throwing for five thousand yards in nineteen eighty
four and it didn't happen again for another almost twenty years.
In NFL history, throwing forty seven, forty six, forty eight
touchdown passes. Everybody can't walk in the league and do

(50:21):
that Peyton Man twenty nine interceptions, groop for a year. Yeah,
I don't know. If it's an underdog story can be a.

Speaker 4 (50:27):
Bigger one from mister irrelevant to I mean, I mean
Buster Douglas knocking out Mike Tyson.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
If you want an underdog store, No, but I've been
in the NFL. I mean there's in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (50:37):
There's how many peoples.

Speaker 3 (50:39):
I'll put it to you like this, he was mister irrelevant.
But I'll take Tom Brady's story one ninety nine.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
He can six pick.

Speaker 3 (50:46):
Yeah, I mean, you know remember that. But we liked
time twelve was twelve was the the Brady six. It
was six quarterbacks taken before Tom Brady in that draft,
and we're sixth quarterback. Take it to the first round
show he sure it was guys like Jim Kelly, Ken O'Brien,
All those guys were taken before Marios.

Speaker 2 (51:02):
What party, man?

Speaker 3 (51:03):
I just like I said, I just think this is
one of these stories that we act like in the world,
especially in American sports, we act like we like Jeremy Lynn, Right,
that was cool. For about six weeks. It was huge
for about five and a half weeks. As soon as
it cools down, we go back to loving Kobe and
Lebron and Durant and Steph just like with Brock Purty,

(51:25):
it was cool for a second and we're right back
to Lamar and Josh Allen and Joe Burrow like the
guys man, Like, that's why you ask me how I
feel about Bron.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
Josh was the same thing. He's from Wyoming, those that
dog story. It was the first round draft picks, not
an underdog story.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
When you're coming from that school, it doesn't matter when
you're drafted. No, when you're drafted in the first round,
you are not an underdog. Hell No, mel Kiper, who
was the voice of pre draft for the last thirty
five years of our lives, was the one guy screaming,
screaming for Josh Allen and doesn't and he doesn't let people,

(52:01):
but he doesn't let people forget about it. Because people
were like, Oh, get this guy off the air. This
guy doesn't know what he's talking about. We're so sick
of mel Kuiper. No, it looks like mel Kiper was
ahead of all of us, ladies.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
And gentlemen.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
And I'm not a Josh Allen guy. You know how
I feel about I call him Josh Apple turnover Allen
because all he doesn't turn the ball over when is
most important.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
But he was a first drop pixel. He couldn't have
been that as far ahead of everybody.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
No, I mean, listen, there was other teams wanted them,
there was something somebody saw him. Look think by the
guy like Pat Mahogy. And to call him an underdog
story coming into that draft coming.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
In no, No, I'm not into that. Last season Texas Tech.
Nobody thought he was gonna say he didn't have he
didn't have good numbers at Texas.

Speaker 3 (52:36):
Text, but Reid, but Andy Reid saw something and and
remember they came up to get him. They didn't just
they didn't fall. It didn't fall to Casey. Casey came
up to get him. So I don't look at that
as an underdog story. When you go on to flesh
Tom Brady or Brock Purdy, right did Tom Brady?

Speaker 2 (52:56):
Listen?

Speaker 3 (52:56):
Tom Brady was eighth on the depth chart at Michigan
his freshman year. He said he would get one rep
every other not every practice, every other practice, right, he
would get one rep.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
That's it. Nowadays, you transfer halfway through the ze, not
even halfway through the season.

Speaker 3 (53:14):
You transfer up to one transfer and spring because remember
there's a spring portal portal once everybody goes through spring,
which I like, you go through spring game, you go
through spring practice, you play your spring game in front
of you know, in front of your fans, and if
you feel like, hey, they're not gonna I'm not gonna
get any playing time here, there's another window that opens
up and you can portal out again if you want to.

(53:35):
I wouldn't do it because if you're already portaled on
January second, and you get to the spring game and
you got a portal again, just maybe that level of
D one is not for you. Man, Maybe you need
to go down to like Faris University where Shambliss was,
to go with yourself a national champion.

Speaker 4 (53:48):
Did you see, by the way, did you see the
number they just put it out? Three thousand, seven hundred
and fifty three players have entered the transfer portal today.
How many three three thousand, seven one hundred and fifty.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
Three and seventy percent of them will not find a
new home.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
No, you're probably right off because because already, do you
know how much room has to be made on big
time programs for you to fit in another three thousand players.

Speaker 4 (54:14):
I'm trying to do the math, how many teams, how
many new players?

Speaker 3 (54:17):
We'll think about it. Because each team carries each team's
gonna cary between. There's one hundred plus teams right any teams,
Any team's gonna carry anywhere between eighty to ninety five
suited up players every Saturday, it's about eighty to ninety
five kids on the sideline that will be suited up.
So you're taking an extra thirty per team, Like, well,
then you gotta loure thirty give or take. You got
that it means then it means you must have thirty

(54:38):
poorting out right, So if you don't have thirty point,
if I only got ten kids poorting out, I don't
have to bring in ten new kids. I could just
bring in four or five. Obviously I got something good if.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
Only ten or leaving.

Speaker 3 (54:50):
If you're only leaving losing like eight or nine kids,
you're doing a damn good job at your program.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
In the portal era that we live in, rus.

Speaker 3 (54:56):
Chigan State had thirty six kids hit exactly thirty six
kids hit the portal of Michigan State today and they
got a new Pat FitzGeralds, their new coach coming in.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
Yeah right, well, allot to hit the portal. Like when
Dion came in.

Speaker 4 (55:09):
Some some kids say, I'm not gonna get a fair break.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
I gotta get a look. Dion told him coming in
and I'm bringing luggage, So he let them know most
of y'all better hit the portal. But he was right.

Speaker 3 (55:19):
They were one in eleven, bro, Like, you guys can't play.
Y'all got to get out of here, man,