Best of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon

On the Best of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon, Jason and Mike touch on some NFL and how much Jason does not miss talking about Aaron Rodgers. The guys jump into some baseball and speak with MLB Insider Jon Paul Morosi. Then, after the Clippers and Timberwolves game finished up, Jason and Mike spoke with LA Clippers Insider Dan Woike!

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Where big night in the NBA. Well we'll get to
that big NFL story in a couple of seconds, but

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night one of the play in we watched the next
dismantle the Cavaliers and at halftime the t Wolves lead
the Clippers fifty three fifty one. All sorts of drama
going on here. This is a huge victory were the
Timberwolves who had to go through a first half for
Karl Anthony Towns oh for seven from the floor, four fouls,

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just two points. This is a game the Clippers should
be up by at least ten, and instead they're trailing
and chasing too with the t Wolves because Edwards and
Russell go for fifteen apiece. Look, I get that other
guys are gonna score, but you're talking about the best
player on the floor is awful and playing with four fouls,
and the Clippers had difficulty pulling away. They should have

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been pulling away the entire first half. Uh, danger Will Robinson.
I don't know, man. The Clippers have a lot of
heart and they're one of those teams and even when
they get down they find a way to suck it
up and come back. But this second half, man, if
this is what happened to them in the first half,
they couldn't pull away. I I don't see things getting
better for them in the second half. Well, as much
as we could say, hey, you won't see the same

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out of Karl Anthony Towns with his fourteen minutes and
two points minus ten uh and certainly four files, he
ain't gonna be around long. Uh. Paul George was also
only two for ten and that first half great job
by the Tea. Wolves. Will see what the second half
brings for him. So if we're gonna say, well, it
won't be that bad for Towns. I gotta I gotta

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think that Paul George has a better half as well,
so we we work it on balance. But the fact
that you already have a number of Tea Wolves players
in foul trouble. Uh you had Beverly picked up two
read the fast foules, uh Towns with with his four,
Edwards has three as well. I mean that's one that
you have to watch because he's been fantastic, and I

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think in this spotlight game, a lot of folks getting me, hey,
watch out for this guy going forward. I mean, we
we've been telling you about him since draft night. Uh,
you know, a couple of years ago at this point.
But uh, the Tea Wolves are fun, but the Clippers
have been on on a role coming into the playoffs.
We'll see what the beloved halftime adjustments bring. But having

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a guy like Powell coming off the bench as they
did with his fourteen points to give them a lift
that they so sorely needed. It's one of those hey,
snap out of it kind of things. Whether you get
slapped by Share or Will Smith, it's time to play Clippers. Clippers,
throw in the towel you've led with fourteen by Norman
Powell had to do that. No, that was really well like.

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But for all the Clipper fans that that really got
all chesty the last couple of weeks of look we're
turning it on and we're getting ready to go, and
look how much better our record is than Lebron and
the Fakers, Lakers whatever other pejorative that got thrown in
after that, Um, you could be going home real fast too,

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So you're gonna join them in a in a long,
horrible off season and just being able to say, hey,
you know what, our guys were hurt for a lot
of the season. So were there's so are their's right?
So uh, it's just more of the same, and it's
it'll be truly time for a Dodger base and as

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cerulean blue sky as we can forget about all the
angst of the Lakers and Clippers seasons. We do actually
have more on the Lakers coming up in a little
bit because today always a great day for NBA head
coaching rumors involving the Lakers. But you know it, it
it didn't hit me until I saw this story today
Mike that I I said to myself, boy, I've really

(04:25):
liked not talking about this person for the last six weeks.
I really have enjoyed it. I really and it really
was and it's exactly what I thought it was gonna be.
Because now that the big decision was made, no one cares.
No one cares anything what happens with Aaron Rodgers any more.
Right because Tom Clements, who was a Packers new quarterback coach,

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gave a press conference today, first time he's spoken since
he was hired, and that was probably the first big
clue we saw that Aaron Rodgers was gonna come back
to the Packers because it was, you know, Clements was
his handpit guy. We find out today that Rogers reached
out to Clemens to Judge's interest, then called, uh, Matt Lafleur, Hey,
would you want can we bring Tom Clements on staff?

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I you know, I really liked working with him earlier
in my career, and so he comes in to be
the quarterback coach. And that was like the big clue that, oh, hey,
they're gonna they're gonna hire, they're gonna bring Aaron Rodgers
gonna come back. And after this story comebout, I said, boy,
I have not missed talking about Aaron Rodgers. I really
have not because because this right here, this is a
non story, right, all right, that's great. Tom Clements is back.

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But I've not missed talking about him because he over
exaggerated his disdain for the franchise for two years. Two
years because obviously it wasn't as bad as he said
it was, because there were no changes and he came
back and he's getting fifty million dollars a year, so
clearly it couldn't have been that bad change. I'm coming back, right,
So he over exaggerated that. Well, to be fair, he

(05:52):
had his minions in the media over exaggerate most of it. Yeah,
but I'll come on a lot of it directly. Come on,
he's he's going on. He's going on Hot McAfee show
the first day. No news today, there's no news on
my situation. He's a diva of the highest right. But
even then, he never he never trashed him when he
given a free opportunity by a guy whose job is

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to do a w w E work every day of
the week. Congratulations to you, Pat McAfee. You were a
star at WrestleMania and I but given an opportunity once
a week to go on that show being goaded on
by a guy that is now done countless rehearsals, countless
shoot interviews to get ready to elicit such moments. They

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never had the aha, wow, that was crazy moment other
than Rogers just gotta be in there. None of it
was related to his football status. So yeah, he's never
had the guts to actually be that guy. But in
the flesh, he milked all of it. Though he milked.
He milked the attention he wanted, and he loved the
diva spotlight. Here's me on vacation. Here's me trolling Matt Lafleur.

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Here's me saying I don't know what I want. I
don't know. And and look, it was a big deal.
Aaron Rodgers could leave the Packers and we kept going
on that crap for two years and then he decides
I'm gonna stay. No changes, no nothing, didn't get anything.
They traded away as best receiver, they let the second
best receiver go. No change, no, not so obviously it
wasn't that bad. Now, well, yeah you did, you did

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not You don't really and just you're like me, You
say you don't, but you really do. Don't do it
quite so frequently. But in this one, that that caused
an industry to do hurdles and chase its own tail.
For two years, I sat there like I was hanging
out with Brady and Gronkowski with my feet and a
kiddie pool, drinking and drink watching everybody else have their

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respective areas burn. But this is now when he talks,
when there's an Aaron Rodger story, he doesn't rate anymore.
Right now? Will it be a story and on the
field story if the Packers are really good, if they're
really bad. But yeah, just like any other team is
going to be a big story if they're star players
are playing well and if if they're not, Just like

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Brady will be a big story how he plays in
Matthew Stafford, everybody else. But the overall interest level in
him is gone because it was all about I could leave,
I could leave. And now that he's back, he's gonna
really find that when he speaks, no one's gonna care anymore.
And I'm fine with it. I'm fine with it because
he he kept us on the line for two years.
In the end, Oh, I'm gonna go back there. But

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did you get any changes? No? Do you hated all
the people in charge? Yes? Are they all still in charge. Yes,
what did you get more money? Could you have done
this a little bit differently and found out a way
to get more money? Yes, it's could have done it
that way, and instead we had two years of just
a waste of time, of an absolute waste of time.
And now when he speaks, when something comes up, people
are gonna are gonna just blow it off because if no,

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I don't need to fall for this anymore. There's other
things I can talk about. Aaron Rodgers telling me he's unhappy.
I don't care, because he can't be that unhappy. You can't.
But you can't blame. You can't sit back and say, oh,
things aren't going great in Green Bay. But no, no, no,
you resigned. You could have gotten out. You could have
said I wanted to be traded. You decided to stay.
So now if you complain about things, you know what,
you can't know that he and he knows he can't,

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because how pissed do you think he is? That? There
goes Davante Adams, there goes MVS. They got nobody who's
got nobody to throw the football too? And he hasn't
said squad because you know what, because he knows because
he can't say, oh, I didn't know what happened here,
I wouldn't have known. I wouldn't have come back if
I didn't know, because all of that is crap, and
he knows. And now I hope that he can sit
back and just you know, kick his feet up and say, boy.

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For two years, man, I had the fast lane. I
had the fast lane. Everybody was the beck and call
of everything I said. Because now no one's gonna care. Yeah,
your Tuesday appearance with Pat McAfee, nobody cares. Nobody cares.
Nobody cares what you do or say anymore. Can't say
you're unhappy, can't say things right. It doesn't matter. If
your team stinks, people are gonna jump up and down
on you and say, look at you, all of this

(09:56):
crap and look, your team is terrible. And if they're good,
and if you're good, it's gonna be Hey, look how
good the Packers are. Let's see what happens in the playoffs.
Because the last two years Packers had as good a
team as anybody in the NFC, and he couldn't win
home playoff games. That's a big deal. How are they
gonna do it now? And their team is worse. So
now it's everybody is waiting to pounce. Like I told you,

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people are waiting to pounce on Lebron James. As soon
as the Lakers missed the playoffs, here comes everybody blaming Lebron,
and now Lebron is on a Hey, I don't control things,
and this season wasn't a failure. And all that crappy
spewed out yesterday. Everybody's now waiting to pounce for Aaron
Rodgers were waiting. They're waiting the last two years playoff failures.
Now he's got more money, highest paid quarterback. Oh and
now let's see what happens. They are waiting to pounce

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because the Packers could go fifteen and o to start
the season, have a chance to go undefeated, and people
are just gonna say, uhuh, let's see what happens when
you get to the playoffs, because when you have home
field advantage, you can't win. Let's see what happens. Now,
let's see And if they think it's gonna be even better,
look at the Packers, look at Aaron Rodgers, all this
crappy us through it. Now they think, get ready because

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now the worm is gonna turn he had all the support,
all the fans are on Aaron Rodgers side, because clearly
fans are gonna take sides of the players. Was it
probably split a little bit in Green Bay? Yeah, because
you're talking about that's their home. Hey, do I support
the team? Do I support Aaron Rodgers? But generally fans
across the country, Yeah, you're gonna side with the player
because you like the players. You watch the players. You

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don't go to a game, you don't watch the owner's
box on television, you don't watch the general manager, you
don't pay a lot of attention to the head coach.
You're watching the quarterback. Right, You're gonna have his back.
Now that's out the window. And now now it's gonna
be a new normal for him to come back and
understand that nobody cares about what he says and if
the team is bad, they're ready to jump up and
down on him. That's gonna be the new reality for

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Aaron Rodgers. And I am there for it, and I
I and I gotta tell you, in the last six weeks,
I have not missed a daily time of A couple
of times the show talking about Aaron Rodgers and his
drama it is so great that it is over. Yeah,
I'll get to part two of the Aaron Rodger Your
Stories from Today, which I think is the uh the
more important, and we're gonna listen to what he says.

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Here's the thing is that all the folks that carried
water for him on this long trail, uh, they spilled
it out towards the end and through the buckets at him,
which means they're now keeping receipts when he starts talking,
because the ability to then go at him because he
played everybody for a fool, uh, is there in Green Bay.
I gotta imagine if you were to do the poll

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and other shows do that, I do it occasionally with
my tongue planted firmly in my cheek. Um, if you
did the poll question of you know which side were
you on? They'd gone down the road with Brett Farves.
So I gotta I gotta imagine folks had been tired
a bit of this stuff with Aaron Rodgers to the
saltiness of you know what, I'm done with this. Uh.

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So maybe those percentages aren't as uh disparate as one
might think. But the other one is that the report
that he does he's not gonna show up to uh,
to the voluntary workouts. He's not showing up till it's mandatories.
Like you got a whole new crew, you gotta you know,
work into you gotta find out a pecking order. You're

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gonna have to work with draft picks. You're telling them
you're gonna be able to do that in a short
span once you reconvene for training camp. Fool hardy, especially
since again all the eyes are on you after a
couple of m v P bum slayer seasons. Well, when
you win m v P, I mean, you know, you
can only controls on your schedule. I mean you're still

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you're still putting it out there. You still in the playoffs. No,
no, no no regular but they don't give the m v
P until But what the point is you pretty well?
But the point is you've got to carry through and
you didn't know you do. But yeah, okay, well seventeen
weeks the regular season. And he shouldn't have been the

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m v P this year if he did it, Yes,
it should absolutely have been have been Michael Carter. Yes, no,
I agree with you on that, but uh, you gotta
say regulation about Carter Williams. I was gonna, ohning percentage
since two against teams in the NFC North. I mean,
that's a hell of a start each every year that's

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his division. But but know, in the playoffs, that's that's why.
That's the thing. Even if he even if he plays
great in the regular season, it's gonna be nobody cares.
We're gonna wait until the playoffs for you. Now, Rogers,
We're gonna lay in the tall grass and wait for you,
and then we're gonna pounce. It's gonna it's gonna be
like watching the wilde beast. You don't go over the
savannah going look at this, What a nice day. I

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can't see anything in the tall grass. Oh what's that
wind blowing on the side. Look at me. I'm a
happy wilde beast. Oh maybe I'm not a happy wilde
beast anymore. He had a good run. Now, I don't
think wildebeests really have good runs. I don't. Well they
do until they don't. Yeah, well, but you know and
and that, But that could happen at any time, you know,
But you know that that's that's part of life, that's

(14:55):
that circle of life things that that's why I always
say enjoy the moment Smith had that extra piece of cheese.
Then just go enjoy nature and walk it off a
little bit, and then you know what, you can reward
yourself with more cheese. Cheese and circle of life or

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the wheel of cheese, whichever you wish to be cheese.
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(15:41):
was the peacock of regret for the Minnesota Timberwolves, as
Carl Anthony Towns has now fouled out of the game
seven minutes ago on the fourth quarter of the Clippers
are clinging to a seven point lead. Carl Anthony Towns
played twenty four minutes eleven points, three out of a
even from the floor and again those six fouls. He

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is not happy. The Timberwols are not happy. We're gonna
have a big breakdown of this game coming up. And again,
still six and a half to go in the fourth quarter,
Clippers with the lead, now make it the t Wills
were the big three to cut it to three. But
joining us now on the hotline a man who was
excited to now not talk about lockouts, not talk about

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the beginning of the season, so to not talk about pictures.
Who may be using Spider tach. Now, yeah, now, now
we can talk about the best teams in Major League Baseball,
the teams with four wins so far this season, like
the Padres and the Rockies, and the Rays and the Mets.
It's John Paul moros C MLB Network, Fox Sports Radio

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Insider JP. What's happening, good evening, my friends and and Jason,
I suppose I I will try to ask you the
first question to this conversation. Do you know where I
am right now? Uh? You are? If I have my
John paulp. MOROSSI tracker and I let me check my phone,
my iPhone. I haven't find find your friends. You are
actually in Philadelphia for the Mets Phillies. Yes, I am,

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and I can report to you a couple of things.
Number One, this is not a hot take. This is
just observational information. Tyler McGill right now might be the
best picture on the Mets team. He so far this
season has struck out eleven batters and he has walked no. One.
And again, I'm not making this as an all time thing.

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Of course you've got into Graham and Bassett. But Tyler McGill,
he is so impressive. Pies almost nothing tonight, and I
interviewed him after the game. He is six ft seven,
but I think we may need to remeasure because it
feels though he was exactly three fer than me, and

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so there was we talk about, uh height disparities. That
was a pretty strong gradient between Tyler McGill, who stands
six seven and me, who stands approximately four ft seven.
At least that's how I felt when I was standing
next to Tyler and he got the guy throws. He's
like the new Randy Johnson. He's a right handed version

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of Randy Johnson's guys. I'm telling you it's it's interesting
for me to watch somebody because I saw him pitch
last year in one game and he was good that day.
But he looks dominant right now. And this is where
we're coming back here, off of a lockout. We had
the last couple of years of baseball obviously affected as

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everything has been by the pandemic, and so there are
some names that are just coming back into our awareness
as as national baseball fans again, and I would just
remind all of our listeners tonight, ty Laura McGill that's
t y l O R. McGill and get it right,
ty Lore and uh to me, the speaking of I
think we're gonna have to now add in the the

(19:03):
high mom reference that Mike likes to play when whatever
he references my name, because it's the unique spelling of
J O N like ky Lore similar there, and it
deserves probably even more notoriety than than the spelling of
my name, thy Lord the creator. I was trying to
figure out how you can start rewriting the lyrics of
Rocky Raccoon by the Beatles to include McGill um. Yeah,

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because I believe I actually sang that song for a
while on this radio program sometime ago. Yeah, but that
will not or you can do that. You could do
the Berman way. I got it, And hey, you better
call Saul because McGill is dealing on the mound tonight.
T J. There you go, so you've got that story.
You also had boom yesterday with the errors and the

(19:52):
melding of a phrase that well we'll not endear him
too many fans unless he goes on to hit three
forty with a bunch of bombs. Uh. So, yeah, an
interesting series that you've gotten to part in here in
week one. It really is. And and I'm glad you
asked about boone because it was such a unique baseball

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story and human story too for those that were not
aware of it. Uh. Last night he made three airs,
all of them throwing, which is not a fun night
at the office. And and when he got some sarcastic
applause from the Phillies fans after making a routine play,
he muttered, accorded to deliberators, I bleeping hate this place.

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And it was pretty clear as the day that that
was what he said. And to his credit, Alec acknowledged
that he said what he said after the game and
said it was a moment of frustration, which is totally
understandable because think about it, Uh, I love I love
my radio. I love listening to your radio program, but

(20:57):
there might be times where if the radio doesn't work,
you say, hey, I hate this radio. And I don't
hate the radio, it's just it is not working right then,
and he had a moment and so I'll say this,
he handled it properly, properly afterward, and then tonight he
comes in as a pin shitter and gets a warm
thunderous ovation, which was a really cool moment. So I

(21:20):
think the Phillies fans realize that he's passionate about it.
He was back this this morning, this afternoon, uh, with
some early works, So he's trying to work his way
out of it. But it is a as we know,
it is a tough thing to work your way out
of a throwing slump in baseball, so it becomes a
very mental process. And I certainly hope Alec gets himself
back into a good defensive rhythm. I think everybody does

(21:41):
who loves the game and just wants to see people succeed.
But yes, it was a very unique twenty four hours
or so for Alec Bohm. So JP, I gotta ask,
did you get the set of bows headphones that Rob
Manford gave to all the players? Say hey, I'm sorry,
please like me to your point. So for those uh

(22:02):
get buddy and the commissioner has sent a pair of
really nice headphones to all minor league players as a
token of support, goodwill, if you if you will in
that respect to sort of say we're sorry for the
for the lockout and for perhaps just that the overall
change of operation in the minor leagues in the last

(22:24):
couple of years. Um, did it solve the problem of
of a of ill relations between the parties? Probably not? Uh?
Is it? Is it going to make those minor league
bus rides a little more a little more enjoyable from
Bowling Green, Kentucky to Midland, Michigan in the Midwest League.
I think it will. It will certainly improve the equality

(22:48):
of music, and maybe it'll even make the bus rides
quiet because everybody's got really great headphones and just kind
of enjoined their own music. So I think it will.
It will be a lifestyle and movement. Will it make
any meaningful change on the larger scale? I am a
little skeptical of that. Still looking for that stack of

(23:09):
gift cards two different food services or maybe gas cards
along the way from their own personal vehicles. But that's
not a great call when in doubt it's wasn't there
some movie recently? I can't remember which one it was?
That nothing I actually watched movie, because I watched movies
as often as I watch the NFL which is which
is like once a year. But did I see the

(23:29):
movie where Where a Kid? Where a kid was given
like a seven year old birthday party and the kid
was given an envelope with a couple of gas gas
cards in it. Like that's that's funny, that's funny. It's
a good move too, though. I mean, that's that's like
good as gold as those headphones should have been. To
really send the gesture and let him know you care.
Jp longest road begins with that first step. Listen, here's

(23:52):
what John Paul is doing right there. He is test
driving our reactions. So when it gets to the holidays
and he's covering the Winter meetings and the m v
P and a science and he's got no time to
shop for his nieces and nephews, that's what they're gonna get.
So he just sets driving that potentially if I get
if I get that for for the kid, they're okay
with that, right exactly. I'll be rushing to cover my

(24:13):
tyl Lord McGill Sidling Award press conference, and I will
not have a lot of time, and so I'm going
to be I'll be busy. But I'm telling you he
was legit tonight that what we saw tonight was all
star stuff, and uh, I wish him great health and
success because man, he is fun to watch pitch. And
I'll say this too, the pitch Colm technology the Mets

(24:35):
Jason that gave us one more headline tonight, which was
we had to see an in inning pitch calm adjustment
and it appeared there was a communication breakdown, a little
bit of a conversation. Uh and and they had to
go back to the original science, which is okay, we
haven't forgotten that that avenue. But McGill mentioned to me
and others have better really helps them have a better tempo.

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So if it helps the game have a better tempo,
today's game I thought had a very good tempo. We've
seen some good ball games so far this year, guys,
and I think the the pitch com technology is at
least part of the reason why there you are your
impressions of the first week. Any team other than UH
Jason really begging you for more Mets content that stood
out to you. I mean, the Padres had a couple

(25:19):
of big pitching performances to get things going. The Cubs
have actually won three games already. What stands out for you. Yeah,
I think Saya Suzuki stands out to me with the Cubs.
What a tremendous signing he was and really showing that
he belongs right now. He's he looks outstanding, So great
to see his his power coming up from Japan certainly

(25:40):
arriving as advertised. You're right the potres I think early
on the rotation, top end Darvision Mania both outstanding, uh,
and we'll see that team, I think get better as
as the Tatis injury hopefully resolves itself here in the
next couple of months. I think the best bullpen this
is really a time of year for bullpens. Best bullpen
right now in the major leagues belongs to the Yankees.

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They've been exceptional in Nestor Quartel a solid start tonight,
and the bullpen was immaculate after him. So I think
the the divisions have largely been as advertised. I think
the the Mets Phillies race could be really good braves
in the National League e's and they got some really
really tough division. Uh. I think the a L E

(26:22):
still is probably the one that's the most rugged to
get through. But I think overall, guys, we have some
great matchups. Stephen Kuan with the with Cleveland, you can't
swing and miss, can't make it out, so it's fun. Well,
we got baseball stories back, and this is great to
be talking a ball again with you guys. I mean,
John Paul, we had a walk off slide violation rule
last night and we are we are rolling already. We

(26:43):
had to no hit or alerts. We had a walk
off slide violation. Baseball is not messing around now, No, no,
they're not. But there was even that the opening day
walk off review for the Tigers to see if the
ball had had gone off the outfielders glove first or then. Yeah, JP, right,
appreciate you bringing that in on me. Right. I'll say

(27:06):
this though, we need the umpires to study some video
of West mcaulay and and his his NHL refereeing announcements
in the arena because I really want to see some
some really good, really good showmanship here with these announcements.
I mean, this is this is your moment, umpires, own it.
I know you don't want to be the story, but

(27:29):
it is entertaining when you are. Now, JP, I I
want you to leave us. I need you to to
ballpark something for me. Okay, this is very good. We
talked about this a lot on the show. Uh. A
MPM has a promotion with the Dodgers where and when
they steal a base, you get a free hot dog.
That's what it is. Now they've had no stolen basis,
but tonight they have three. So now after the show,

(27:50):
I go to a mp M and get three hot dogs.
How many basses do you think the Dodgers will steal
this year? They stole like sixty five last year? Like?
How many free hot dog? Because do I think I
can get with the app like they are they gonna
start steal? Will they be more of a small ball
team maybe because of the hot dog situation in ballpark?
That that that number for me. Remember they get a

(28:11):
full year of trade Turner this year. Okay, so that
was only the last that was only two months of
last season. I think Trey Turner is a legit based stealer.
I'm saying that you you are going to have so
many hot dogs at a mp M that it's going
to become its own food group for you. Yeah, I

(28:32):
think you're burying the hot dog needs to be like
the amp M hot dog sounding A good stack coming up? No,
I think that that's it because Jason got into a
back and forth because he was trying to evaluate if
he could sneak in after every stolen base and claim
a hot dog or was it all a compositive to
night that they get. Yeah, I'll say they get about

(28:55):
eighty two. About eighty two, so every other day I
gotta I'll get a hot dog, basically. But but here
was the bigger deal health ramifications of an eighty two
hot dog summer. I mean, that is that is significant
in my opinion. I want to know how different, though, JP,

(29:17):
that is to the average American over a summer. Though,
I need to I need to recalibrate what is considered
normal hot dog consumption. This is this actually would be
a really good topic at some point. What is a
normal summer's worth of hot dogs for a day for
the average American? I mean, I am fairly I mean,

(29:38):
but again, I'm not really a good barometer for such
things that I still you know, I have a weak
left of lent. My diet during Lent is quite quite boring.
I take all the fun stuff. So I'm probably not
the best person to ask this question too on the
hot dog front. But when what I need winds Above

(29:59):
replacement dogs. You're the guy I call. I mean, I
need my war HD. You're the guy. Yeah. So I
would say that I'm a fan. I am a fan.
Occasionally have a ballpark hot dog. I like, uh Italian sausage, great,
brott Worst in Milwaukee also great. But I would say
it's not something I really go to a bunch for

(30:19):
for the family dinner. But I you know, summertimes coming up,
getting to the ballpark, gotta have a hot dog, that
is for sure. He's on Twitter at John Morrossi. That
is at John Morrossi, Fox Sports Radio, MLB Network insider,
who will have eight hundred words on wids above replacement
hot dogs coming up this week at a MPM. So
I think there's another question. More ubiquitous AMPM in California

(30:43):
or Wawa here in Philadelphia. Oh oh wow, Well Wawa
you could get like cheese steaks. Get cheese steaks at Wahwah,
I get hoogie. I'll get a hoogie at wah Wah.
That's what I'll wind up. And he wasn't talking about
the quality of the food. He was talking about the
the ability to find one. Well, you can find what
because you look in mayor of Easttown. They went to

(31:04):
wahwah all the time, so you saw wahwa pretty pretty
good pa accent there. Well done, that's pretty cal talk.
You know. Gritty Gritty's my favorite mascot. Philly's Philly's in Harper.
You know, you know Johnny he's a star and he's
going to be the guy that's going to lead us here.
And Philip he's he's the guy. He's a star. Now
we paid a lot of money. Well done, Well done.

(31:26):
You didn't know at that club in my bag? Did you?
Very nice? Yeah? I speak Italian, you speak Philly. I
love you. Say hi to that mcgil guy for me, okay,
because he was everybody. He was good and don't forget
about to grow him. You know, he's he's just he's
a superstar, all right, by JP you guys that. I

(31:49):
love this every week so much. So good boy. He
just hung up the phone going what in the hell
was well? The last five minutes really escalating quickly with
the hot dogs. But I was trying to make is
you know, if Bellinger he got on base. In order
to steal bases, you have to get on base. And

(32:09):
again after his Disastro one. That's a big deal. And
Trey Turners not even playing tonight, and they got Stolen
Bases eighty two, Stolen Base eighty two, Hot Dog Summer.
That could be a movie. That's like a Morgan Spurlock movie. Like,
you know, I went to I ate that I did
the Hot Dog thing. How did you feel after the
first month the set? You have to go like every
time a stolen base happens, that's a Morgan Spurlock movie.

(32:31):
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(33:17):
Hello and welcome. Inside the final hour tonight of the
Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon, and
my goodness, do we have all sorts of craz Who
thought we'd get crazy coming out of Clippers Timberwolves, right,
like crazy out of the nets and the cat, Yes,
crazy out of the Clippers and the tea Wolves. Well yeah, uh,

(33:41):
not just the woman who glued herself to the floor
at halftime, but Patrick Beverley. And if you thought that
maybe he was playing up the fact that he doesn't
like the Clippers for a little bit for the camera
for ribery, say no, no, no, no no. Um a
video making the rounds on Instagram Live of following the
timber Wolves win tonight, Mary Patrick Beverley, you know, leaving

(34:03):
the Clippers and it's been a big rivalry. He had
a big play at the end of the game, taking
the ball away from Reggie Jackson with the Wolves up
six with twenty seconds left to go. He's yelling and screaming,
celebrating in front of Steve Balmer, who was all slouched
in his seat. After the game is over, he's running
into the stands and throwing his jersey out to everybody. Um.

(34:24):
Apparently he went on Instagram Live a few minutes ago,
and uh put out a video and I'm watching the
five seconds of it with him going, weak ass Clippers,
get your blankety blank out of here, blank you blank
you So yeah, Patrick Beverley really was excited to beat
the Clippers, and it really is a rivalry. Is this

(34:45):
not all? Hey, we're gonna play this up for the cameras. Man, No, no, no, no,
I called the weak ass Clippers and blankety blankety blank. Uh,
he's still fired up. The game ended like a half
hour ago and he's up. No I did that. Social media,
you've got Lebron and Kuzma and all sorts of NBA
players mocking. Uh that a enthusiasm, a number of people

(35:09):
posting different celebrations of championships from the Celtics to Lebron
and and others. Uh, Michael Jordan's laying in hugging the
trophy in the Bulls locker room. Uh so you have
all that. And t NT played one shining moment over

(35:29):
so you know what, don't don't try to take it
away from him. You know, he's the king of the
world for one night and perhaps one night only, but
right now it's his world and we're just living in it.
Joining us now on the hot line l A Times
NBA Insider with the Lakers and the Clippers. End is
on the long list, not quite the short list yet,

(35:50):
but the long list to be the next Lakers head coach.
It is l A Times Insider Dan Woiki. Dan, Welcome
to the show. I understand if you can't talk about
your upcoming interview in detail yet, I just appreciate you
taking time out to be on the show with us.
I can tell you that the Lakers love all the
writers currently who have written glowing things about their past season.

(36:11):
So I think they want to get us in there
and as much as possible, as fun, as much time
with us as they can. Think. They're all just want
to relitigate every little bit of this last year, that's
for sure. Okay, So who loves who more? Do the
Lakers love the writers more? Or does Patrick Beverley love

(36:32):
the Clippers more? Who has more? That's a good question.
I look, I think ultimately right, like most of what
I say is jest. I think, like you know, Pet
Beverley probably hates the Clippers more than Lakers hate most
of the writers. Um, but I but I do want
to just like I mean, I do think like this
was just a just a real, a real weird last

(36:56):
few weeks in terms of just like covering the Lakers,
um and like it like it's funny because watching this
playoff tonight with UM Minnesota, and I'm kind of I'm
somewhere in between you guys, like I want to hand
like I like I love that they care, right, Like
we we spent a lot of time talking about how
much we hate and being players. Just go through them

(37:17):
when they go through the motions like this, like this
is real, genuine care. It's also like an alarming amount
of emotion that makes me like worried for these people
who have to go play basketball again in a few
days in the playoffs too, right, and like so it's
sort of just like you know, when you see like
that storm in Patrick Beverley's eyes, it's just like it

(37:39):
makes me a little uncomfortable too, So I think and
then I think it's funny, like I think, you know,
one genuine were the champions and just kind of just
generally funny. So I think it can be a lot
of things. Um, but but the folks in the Lakers,
like you know, that was the thing was and I
think we talked about this guy, but it felt that
times like I was covering a playoff race, and then

(38:00):
you would take a step back and be like, oh no,
like there are sixteen games under crying trying to get
the ten seed in the West, you know, and so
like the play and does sort of make you recalculate
a little bit of expectations of that's changed the way
you look at a basketball team. And and and that
was like, you know, when you're doing things like the

(38:22):
magic number to be the tenth seed in the Western Conference,
it is a that the shift I think sort of
the way most of us have have covered this game
for most of our lives. Well, it's a new world order,
no question about it. I asked the musical question earlier though, Dan,
when the Lakers are are trying to figure out a
new coach, and obviously they also I think, need to

(38:43):
look at each other in the talent evaluation process and
figure out who's the weak link at the table in
terms of suggestion to puts together? Are they a man
or are they a muppet? So are you gonna come
in and be able to effect change? Are you just,
uh well, a puppet of another regime, whether it's the
front office or Lebron James. Yeah, I think it's Look,

(39:06):
I mean I think, um, everybody has a piece of
this one, right, and I think UM seeming like everybody
but Russell Westbrook knows that based on UM but he
got the Champagne Dan. Yeah, Like it definitely feels like
this is a shared accountability moment, like within the organization.

(39:27):
Like I do think that, you know. I mean, look,
if Lebron James is a lot of things, he's not
dumb when it comes to basketball. If you told them, like, hey, Lebron,
we're all your ideas of good ones this year, I
think you would say now right, like in the privacy
of a private conversation, I'm pretty confident that's what would happen. Um.
You know, I think the same can go seem to
be said for Rob Blinka, the same thing be said

(39:49):
for Kurt Rambis and for everybody else has you know,
I think everybody kind of can can grab a piece
of this um. The challenge that's for the Lakers, right,
It's like none of these things feel like small decisions.
You know, you just like got done doing you know,
basically like having your bad instincts and bad decisions kind
of like play out on display and like just glorious fashion.

(40:10):
Over the course of eighty two games, you know where
you lose themost fifty of them, and like now you
have to fix it. You have to fix it on
like a very tight clock and you have to do
it like functionally with like one hand time badge you're
back right like so it's a paralyzed I think it's
almost a paralyzing tassets ahead of them. It is not
going to be easy to do this, and I don't know,

(40:31):
I don't know how much confidence should be should have
in the parties involved to figure it out. Well, that's
not what I want to hear from the future Lakers
head coach Dan You got to give a better answer
than that when they interview. You can't say I don't
know how you figure this out? Do you gotta have answers? Man? Yeah? Dan?
Are you a man or are you a mupp? I mean,
I mean you can't just say what is rich Paul

(40:52):
think and say, so, okay, do you want to do
we can try to do this really quickly, Like what
what do we think the path forwards is? Okay, So
let's say you're gonna trade Russell Westbrook right, like, which
I think seems like the thing to do. Okay, ideally
you are getting players back from him, right that aren't
John Wall In the perfect world, you're gonna get players

(41:13):
back that can help you. You could get James Harden
depending how this playoff goes. Well, okay, like, let's even
say that it is shames side. Let's even say that
it is shame side. Okay, like, so like that will
cost you two future first round traffics at minimum. In addition,
I mean, well that's at maxim because that's all you
have ten years from now. That's fine, so so so

(41:34):
essentially not like it. It's really is going to treat
James Harden because they are afraid that he is going
to be Russell Westbrook. So basically you are trading for
like an earlier version of Russell Westbrook. Um, and you're
giving up all your assets to do it. I mean,
is our Malcolm Brogden and Buddy heals Worth? Uh, you
know the best thirteen year old in the country right now,
which is essentially what's your trading forre you know, I

(41:57):
don't know, um, like the side of the best eleven
year old. I got that wrong. Even the best eleven
year old you know, um, like, is that is that worth?
Michael Brod didn't know everybody heals? Is that worth? Gordon
Hayward and his creaky bones, you know in his terrific haircut?
Is that worth? Terry Rogier? I mean these are hard

(42:20):
questions and that the reason why they're such hard questions
is because, like, because you got Lebron and because the
clock is ticking there you kind of have to push
your ships. But like you can't feel great him. This
is why guys in my interview I would tell them thinks,
but no, well here's no here's what I will tell you.

(42:40):
I can I can help you, Dan, I can help
you man, I can help you stand out you ready,
I can help you because this is what honestly, I
think the Lakers should do next year. Okay, it sucks, right,
but you have to say, you've got to understand, no
matter what happens, it's just gonna suck next year. Okay.
Lebron is talking about playing three more years, right. He
is motivated to keep playing. He wants to make the

(43:00):
end of his career is gonna pass. Kareem Abdul Jabbar
and he wants to play with brawny. Okay, So you
know what you do next year? You tank, You trade
Russell Westbrook, you get expiring contracts, You trade Anthony Davis,
you get after Will. But hold on, let's stop though,
who's giving you anything for Russell Westbrook? Oh you could,
you could do that. You could do the John wall

(43:21):
thing or whatever it is to get expiring content. That's
gonna cost That's gonna cost you a pick too, like that,
But it doesn't matter. All these people are going to
be fired by the layers by the time these coming around.
If you're gonna takes the way you would tank is
you would keep Russell Westbrook. Yeah, for one more year, honestly, like,
if you're gonna go that route. And I do think
that is nick not pain because here's the problem with

(43:43):
them tanking is that even though they have their pick
in three um, they have to trade it to the
Pelicans a better pick. So it doesn't really you know,
there's really not a lot of advantage. But you free
up the money, you free up the money, you can
do that. I mean, I mean that is where they

(44:04):
are at right now. And this is sort of like
the long term challenge, right, is that you can move
forward with a roster that it has Anthony Davis, Lebron James,
and Russell Westbrook on it. Lebron James provided a doesn't
try an extension. This summer is a freeze, and after
next season, so is Russell Westbrook. You would only have
Anthony Davis and so sale Horn Dark. You only have
Anthony Davis on the books like like it is, it

(44:25):
is open. And that has been some of the reason
why the Lakers, you know, per sources, were hesitant to
engage in like some real significant trade discussions, is they
want to keep the books clean. Um. You know that
might not work for Lebron. And so you know what
I mean. And if you want to try to maximize

(44:46):
your your time with Lebron James, UM, and you and
you want to win and and look, I think you
can the Lakers can talk about how great the brand
is and everything like that. Um. The seats fort Field
this year there were none. There were non sellout games
for a team you know that had that had six
future Hall of Famers on it. UM, you know, and

(45:07):
I think that should be worrisome. And I mean they
need to be good, They need to be a good
team or else people will not go And I think
that's this is all kind of like this big giant
storm of bad decisions and bad ideas and you just
have to find the ones that's at least bad. Yeah,
we got Well, we'll talk about the playoffs as a whole.

(45:28):
I'll leave that one for Jason. But with with this
Laker season done, Clippers joys tonight physically mentally, how are
you doing right now? Dan? I mean, you know they
hear that it was I feel so unburdened. You have
no idea. It is a it is a really good feeling,
um to not watch a team just repeatedly drive full

(45:52):
speed into a wall. You know it was. It was
uncomfortable and like and then you would have to tell
you stuff and you'd listen to everybody tell you what
like maybe tomorrow we won't And then you watch him
do it again, they say, well, maybe it's getting better,
and you kind of always knew it probably wasn't, but
it uh. I will say this the last game of

(46:12):
the Lakers season up until and and you know this
is crazy because I know the news cycle and moved
so fast. We didn't even talk about the way they
fined their coach, which is just I mean the way
totally bonkers. Um, but like what's crazy? And I treat
this that maybe was my favorite win of their seasons.
That that last game. It was maybe the most fun
I had watching the Lakers all year. Um. I was

(46:35):
on Spectrum tonight here in Los Angeles on that you know,
doing some Lakers stuff, and they asked me what my
favorite player of the year wasn't it was the mc
McClung doug At the end of that game ended the season.
Everybody was happy. It was about seven seconds that lasted
until but like a complete total wrench got thrown and
everything and it was chaos again. But it was like
sort of like, oh, it was fun, it was loose,

(46:55):
it was free, it was everything that this team never
was this year. And uh yeah no it was. So
I'm feeling I'm feeling unburned. I feel like a a
snake that is a ship at winter Skin. Wow. I said,
I thought you gonna say your favorite one with Stu
Lance going, let's go and put us out of our misery,
sols d D, Let's go. It was, I I thought

(47:18):
over time, so I did a bad thing, guys. I
was on press row um in Denver that game with
my colleagues, you know, and it's a it's a five
point game with like thirty seconds to go, and I
just looked. I looked over every but I said overtime
and they're all like no, and the like it happened,
I was. I was. I had a huge evil grin

(47:38):
on my face. I'm a bad person for doing that.
Bad person. He's on Twitter at dan Wicky Sports. That
is at dan Wicky Sports. Hey, if you get on
social media, flood the Lakers. You want Dan to be
your Lakers head coach this season? And I'm gonna glue
myself to Rob plink OF's death until like up, that

(48:01):
might work. That might work. Oh by the way, just
really quick, hey, I like the fact that Rob Pelinka
said they weren't pointing fingers at the press conference where
they actually pointed fingers and fired Frank Vogel. That was
really quickly. I liked Stubble. I don't know if you
Gobble said stubble, Oh take it easy, buddy, we'll talk

(48:23):
to you next week. But then I like the sad stubble.
I guess for Dan. I would love the release of
all the audio of his back and forth with all
the Lakers principles, from all the players to Polinka to
Frank Vogel from the season. I would pay money for

(48:43):
that audio archive at l A Times or on his
own website if he owns, and you can do something
with that content because it's gold because you hear them
all the time. It's like, all right, let's play a
clip from this from this press conference, and then you'll
hear the unmistakeable voice of white kids like all right,
what's he gonna ask? Because you can see the player

(49:05):
or the coach clenching up right away, like a here
it comes. So thanks Dan,