July 18, 2025 • 47 mins
Today on The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon, the guys dive into Dame Lillard coming back to end his career in Portland, TJ Watt being extending in Pittsburgh & Marc Stein from the Stein Line stops by!
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second half quote of the MLB season. We got big
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basketball news, we got big football. But I want to
welcome back Mike Harmon, who you probably saw. How was
the Coldplay concert last night? You look like you're having
a good time. I saw you all over the place today.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
The hell of a run. Yeah, I mean I didn't
expect to see you, but.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
I was the guy before the guy. But yeah, whatever
you need to do with that, have had it.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Just making sure because it looked like you were having
a good time. And then you know, I don't know,
I mean, you know, apparently it was a thing today.
Speaker 6 (01:24):
Evidently got of a big deal.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
It's the first time Coldplay has been relevant other than
that that Beatles movie that came out.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Now, wait, how long a Viva Levita couldn't have been
twenty years ago? No, no, no, no, no, come on,
Viva lavin no way, Viva Viva Levita was like maybe
ten years ago.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I think he might be right.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
And wow, that was really fast that Alex Tischer had two.
Speaker 6 (01:48):
Thousand and eight.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
So was that long ago? Wow? So right in the
middle for us.
Speaker 6 (01:53):
Yeah, but any way, two eight seventeen. If we're gonna do.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Math, wells right there right in the middle.
Speaker 6 (02:01):
There, right a meeting part of the curve, in the.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Media, part of that curve. I can't believe it's been
that long ago.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
I mean, they bring people together in large drogs. But
do they bring people together or do they they? I
think you can you can argue both sides of the
coin on that.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
Well, the fact that he issued a statement now about
it blaming cold.
Speaker 6 (02:19):
Play, and it's cold Plays chuckling at him.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
And we didn't have to be on the Kiss camp.
We didn't have to be on this. It's not my fault.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Man.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
It's on the back of the ticket or the digital
representation thereof that you received from wherever you got your tickets,
saying on the back, once you go in, I'll be
off man.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you get it.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Yeah, anything that you can't in other words, basically it
should just say hey, by holding this ticket, you can't
sue us.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Like, that's all we need to say. You don't need
any fine.
Speaker 6 (02:46):
There's a lot of disclaimers.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yeah, I could save ink everywhere because people know by
this point, just say hey, if you hold this ticket,
you can't sue us.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
That's all you need to know. This a everybody knows.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Okay, great, Yeah, don't give about fine print all this stuff,
blah blah blah.
Speaker 6 (02:58):
This indentifies us about a lot of stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
All it is.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
Well, I mean, look, I never got paid for being
part of a video game many many years ago. I
couldn't even get them to give me a free game.
So I mean, what am I gonna do.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
If you were on the kiss cam? Maybe? Maybe because
I was.
Speaker 6 (03:12):
In the crowd, I was the cheering cam.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
But you know what, you look at Mike Harmon, he's
the guy in purple shorts that's cheering and yelling.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
Well, a couple of years ago I went to a
game with my brothers and ended up on camera for
quite a while. It became a thing around here, mocking me.
Speaker 6 (03:28):
For for a bit.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
All right, very nice, Okay.
Speaker 6 (03:31):
I had nothing to do with the incident in question.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Your brothers have anything to do with it because I
think they might know.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
You normally just accuse them of stealing things.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
I don't think they co opted any camera wells at
a cold Play concert. My brothers wouldn't walk across the
street to have anything to do with Coldplay shows. Okay,
cold Play is. Coldplay is very innocuous.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Cold Play is.
Speaker 6 (03:56):
I'm not demigrating them. I'm just telling you that my
brothers are.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
It's not something where I say, oh I have this
inventerate hatred. There's this ingrained hatred of cold Play.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
No, this is okay. You could like Coldplay, Okay, I'm
into their stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
I don't like that Coldplay doesn't invoke that kind of
reaction for some many they wouldn't care to walk across
the street for it. That's how little cold play is
meant in their respective life and was I like some
cold play? So I'll just say, hey, would you walk
across the street for something? I might walk across the street.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I mean I might do that. I mean I might not,
but I might walk away that street.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
It depends how big the street is. Are we talking
Vegas streets all right? Because if Vegas streets, probably not.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
That's gonna take me. It sent me forty five minutes
to walk across the street. Not gonna do it, Not
gonna do it.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Uh So, yes, you could take your pick tonight again
waiting for baseball to start tomorrow night. We got big
headlines out of the WNBA, out of the NFL, and
out of the NBA, A story that. Look, I admit,
there's not a lot that really surprises me. But seeing
this today, I was initially very surprised.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Then I got it. But to make a decision this fast.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Damian Lillard is going back home, and by home, I
mean he's going back to Portland. As he rehabs all
year from the injury suffered. Look he had he had
the blood clot as well, he had the torn achilles.
Missed the playoffs this year for the Bucks, and it
was an easy exit for Milwaukee out of the playoffs.
Here Milwaukee buys him out for over one hundred million dollars,
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and hey, the narrative was Damian Lillard one of the
most exciting players in the NBA who's kind of passed
his prime a little bit, but still incredibly exciting. He's
gonna take his time, can rehab on his own back
in Portland with his family, and he'll take his time
picking his next team. He'll take nothing but time. Dah,
this is a decision that could be a year away. Nope,
it's already made, as he has decided to go back
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to Portland for three years and forty two million dollars. Now,
it's not a lot of money, but obviously he's someone
who is Now you get to your age thirty five
year coming off an injury. The Blazers are gonna pay
him this year just to rehab because he's not going
to play all season long, and they're looking at what's
going to be likely a two year deal. He's also
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getting a no trade clause and now he and Lebron
James are the only ones in the NBA with no
trade clauses.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
He also also told that money from Milwaukee. I mean,
you know, so he talked about with Bradley Beal yesterday.
It looks smallish. No, no, no, he's still getting a novelty
check from No.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I said when I was.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Getting that he's getting one hundred and thirteen million dollars.
But this contract, this is what the Blazers are on
the hook for. And it's three years and forty two million.
And you know, I'm happy for Damian Lillard. And I'm
starting to realize that not that I feel guilty, but
that I feel looking looking back at his career, there
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was a lot of players. Let me let me start here.
There's a lot of thoughts in my head. I've had
a lot of coffee in the last few minutes. So
one of the conversations day, yeah, one of the kind
I used to rule. One of the conversations that Rick
Buker and I've had for a long time, right that
was on the air, off the air, is about how
there are a lot of NBA players that enjoy the
lifestyle of being an NBA star and the winning is
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not something that they're so obsessed with. And look, this
is why players like Kobe and Lebron all cut through
because we know how badly they want to win, right
KD Steph Curry? All right, why we gravitate to these guys.
We talk about it all the time. We know how
badly they want to win. But not every star is
like that. And you see many stories of stars who
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get to the NBA and are great players. But is
winning their ultimate goal? Winning an NBA title and then
when they win, go win one again? Or is the
ultimate goal? Hey, this is my dream to play in
the NBA. I love the lifestyle. Winning is great, but
if I don't win, it's okay. Like the old Scotti Scheffler, Hey,
winning is not that big a deal. You'ly gonna like
it for two minutes anyway. And there's a lot of
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players who are like that. And now seeing Damian Lillard,
who had took him forever to leave Portland, and it was,
you know, kicking and screaming, hey dude, you gotta go.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Man.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
You I'm sick and tired of talking about how great
a player. You are at ten thirty at night in
the West Coast when only you know a dozen Portland
Trail Blazer fans live got to see you go for
fifty and start hitting stuff from the logo because the
Blazers are terrible and they're not on the radar screen. Dude,
you could be winning titles. Man, you could be going places.
You could go somewhere. And finally, after years and years
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and years of this, okay, I'll go. And he goes
to Milwaukee and it doesn't go great, and it didn't
seem like he was ever really happy. His preferred destination
was Miami and he couldn't get there. So now what
does he do? He goes home. Clearly he doesn't care
about winning. So I wonder how much he ever cared
about winning. And you know what, sometimes I can say,
that's okay, right, it's okay if you if this is
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the kind of player, but you have to understand if
you're going to trade for a guy like that, that
that's what motivates him. And so clearly seeing this with
Damian Lillard, yeah, already with this injury coming, I want
to go back home. Maybe I never really wanted to
leave to begin with But I want to go back
home to play and play the rest of Mike or
whatever it is it is, I can still find a joint.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I'm still gonna go out and try to win every night.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
But am I I'm but if I don't make it
far in the playoffs, okay, if I don't win the title,
it's okay. I'm gonna try to win wherever I can.
But am I gonna go crazy about building a winner?
Or am I gonna go and just enjoy the rest
of my career? That's Damian Lillard and.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
I feel like we've we we've we've.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Underestimated or or misappropriated him into the into the the
the group of players where it's like, hey, you're a
difference maker, go in a championship. You of course burn
to go win. He doesn't burn to go win. He
burns to play. He loves to play, He loves the game.
He does incredible things in Portland. He's one of the
most love beloved players in franchise history in the area.
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But he's not quite wired like the elite, like we've
come up with Kobe and Lebron and Shaq and all
these guys that want to go and win and win
and win, and Steph Curry and give me another title,
and give me another title. He's just not that guy.
And I think now that we see him decide very quickly, Hey,
I'm okay going back home, and I fight it win,
I to win. That's kind of the guy he has
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been throughout his career. Wasn't so much loyal to a
frand I found a place I like to play, and
I like playing here, and that's enough for me. And
that's kind of Damian Lillard. That's who he's always been.
But it took to get to this point where he
goes back home for us to really see it.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
That three paces.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
He might always have that moment of clarity along the
way too, you know, to everything turn, turn turn. I'm
gonna quote the birds all night now, but we or
the Bible, I guess they took that from But you
look at the situation, right, he goes home where his
kids are, so you know, that was swirling in the
background of a lot of this when he requested the
trade in twenty three. I think it was only the
(10:41):
heat that really came out and all the reporting as
a preferred destination goes to Milwaukee.
Speaker 6 (10:47):
How much you know this.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Now you can have the side conversation of how much
of this is Gianni's telling him, Yeah, I'm gonna be
here when you get back.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
So you had that going on it. You know, maybe
that's swirling yeah here too.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
But you know, in all walks of life, you come
into a situation bright eyed bushytawln. I got a lot
of people at work in education. I'm gonna be you.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
Know, a creator of young minds.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
I'm gonna do this, and then ten years later it's like, boy,
I'm in for ten, so I got to stay for
the extra you know, fifteen or whatever it is, until
I'm fully vested an age and whatever else to you know,
you come into those continuums, whatever it is you do
for your job. We talked about this a lot last night.
You can find the podcast about the Scottie Scheffler stuff,
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et cetera. For Dame Lillard, you might have had that
guy that burned with desire back when he was drafted
in twenty twelve. You have a couple of big runs CJ.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
McCollum.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
They've had a pretty good squad, and then things change.
You have a major injury where you're not gonna be
able to play for a year puts things in perspective
that you know you're on the back nine, as it
will to continue the golf analogy, and you've only got
a couple of years left. You're in the Western com
but you're not expecting to win anything. The fourteen million
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dollars seemed like if you really wanted to go home,
you might have taken a little less and given them
some more flexibility, you know, since yres still getting one
hundred million from Milwaukee. But you ended up you get
your closure. And it might have been loving it and
wanting to fight for for wins for a long long time,
but at some point you have that that moment where
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things change and you recognize, hey, I still love the job,
I still love the paycheck, I still love the locker room,
whatever else, but winning maybe pushes away. We've talked with
guys a long time, right, A lot of football players. Hey,
I happened to be six seven, what are you gonna do?
And that's that's how I got basketball players. I was
good and I kept going. I mean, you know, you
make fun of my guys. You know, Evan Ashmeyer and
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other eyes from North Northwestern as they played through a
couple of those guys went and played made pretty good
money in Europe. Did they make NBA money, No, but
they were taken care of pretty well.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Were they really good players, yeah, college they were good.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Not great, but there's a market for it. And you
play as long as you can. Right, rip the jersey
off my back. And for Dame Lillard, he gets to
go home, you know, I mean, look your girl Jennifer
Nettles sang about that with bon Jovi in his hair.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Yeah he's well, yeah, of course, one of the best
duets ever who says you can't go home.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
See now I got you. You're gonna be off track
all night because I brought up Jennifer Nettle.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Oh, I'll be singing sugar Land on. I'll be singing
sugar Land.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
Well, I'm gonna sing you some of the duets from
the Righteous Gemstones to take that.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
But look, not every NBA stars Kobe lebron Steph kd Brunson,
And that's okay, right, it's okay that because it's not
like I've seen him come out and he doesn't look
like he wants to win, right, Like I could say
that for someone like lamar Odom, who you know, his
goal was to.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Get to the NBA.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
And look, he was a guy who was in every
other game guy and lots of games he you know,
he didn't try to get into the game like I
felt like he was just there to play.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Damian Lillard plays hard.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
It's just he didn't burn to win like the fans
wanted him to, like we wanted Lillard to win, Like
I feel like we wanted Lillard to win more than
he wanted. That didn't burn for It's like, go somewhere,
go win a title, man, it'll be awesome. And Lillard
was like, yeah, I'm gonna play hard and try my best.
But if I don't, it's okay. I'm happy. I'm happy
with what's going on. And and and you know, we
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we we mix we get that mixed up sometimes because hey,
we always think, well, guys want to win as much
as we want them to win.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
And look, certain sports, look football, everybody.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Wants to win, right you the stuff they put their
bodies through, they want to win every single time they
set foot on the field. Right, there's there's not that
out there, but there's others because of what you put
your body through. But other sports there are stars and
that's okay. And and if your efforts never in question,
if you're you're you know, you don't put everything on
the floor, uh everything lead everything out there, Okay, then
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I can look at you and go all right, I
don't know that you you really deserve this money, deserve
this credit. But you see Lillard play, you know how
you know how much he tries to when every time
he gets on the floor, it's just, hey, I'm not
gonna sit here and try to recruit guys to come,
and I'm not going to try to worry about circumventing
the salary cap to sign here and go here and
play for a title.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Like he's not made to win.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
He's not made and judged by how many finals he
gets to like Lebron does.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
And you know, and that's okay, it's okay.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
For it's just weird for us to see this because
we we want to think that, hey, all the stars
we watch they want to win just as much as
we do.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
And that's just not the case.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
But as you let it led, the analysis was the
the idea of he was allegedly gonna take a bunch
of time, take some time to heal. See I get
all ties together, uh, and and then make a decision.
Other teams potentially interested. But that's a year like he's
not in the plans now, right, He's okay, you can
come and use the facilities, We'll get you a key card,
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and you can go hang out with the trainers. So
we'll have to put you in their schedule. Beyond that,
you're not banking on them for this year at all.
So if you're your roster building with the idea that
you're trying to win, well, he's not a fit. Nor
are you gonna commit that kind of money to it
for a guy that's not gonna play. Where does that
make sense? Portland feel good story.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Maybe some folks still have the Damian Lillard cards that
they didn't burn in the barbecue pit this offseason, and
you just get to dust that out because your guy
came home, exit out about a Fresca exit swollen dome.
Jason Smith Mike Harmon, live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.
Just a little bit of a different way to look
at Damian Lillard after this big, I mean this big
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sledgehammer of a headline today, deciding to go home already,
go back to Portland phone.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
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Speaker 1 (16:35):
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Well, when you go to penalties in the Euros and
you win to go on to the semis, guess what
on an on baseball day you get to be the
play of the day.
Speaker 8 (18:14):
It's smitha hold back, she's missed swayed it out and
it's England. They're into the semifiers.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Of the European Championship.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Glory delight for them. They had to come from two
ghost down. They did it a holiday.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
But hardway for Sweden.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
But that I know it's growing strong.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
I know you're listening to the call, but you were
just slinging along the Sweet Caroline in the background.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
That's how it goes. That's how you know.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
He showed up here last week, Neil Diamond musical going.
Speaker 6 (18:54):
He showed up and then they sang along Sweet Caroline.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Wow, who knew? Like you know? Forty years after Carol.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Yeah, it's this little diddy that I wrote back in
the mid seventies. All of a sudden, they play it
in Red Sox games, It's on TVs and movies. Teams
have co opted it. I never have to work again.
I just get the royalty from sweet Caroline.
Speaker 6 (19:12):
It's brilliant. Keeps on rolling in the machine, rolls on.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
But this game Sweden England was an amazing afternoon watch
to nil Sweden. League evaporates. And then you have Jennifer Falk.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
These Swedish goalie saves four penalty get saves four? Not hey,
they missed it over the crossbark like Sweden did. As
you heard there a couple of times, including Fulk herself
with a chance to win the game, says four.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Here's a big deal about this is four players from
each team missed. Yeah, well you've never seen that. Usually
if there's two misses, that's a lot in the pendal.
I thought that's a horrible penalty for a team.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
The first four.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Players on each team missed. It's like, what is happening here?
We had four misses? Seriously four? And then loose Bronze
is the one who scores for England and you know
how Berman would say this, how Burn would call this.
I've been thinking about this all day. And DJ Lucy
Bronze with the game winner, moving England onto the semi
finals where they hope to not finish third.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
DJ I had to it writes itself, doesn't it writes.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
It's well done, It writes itself. Bronze helping them to
not finish third.
Speaker 6 (20:24):
Now it's really really good.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
Uh fight uh in this match all the way through
and then the penalty gigs were insane.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Man, I mean, you go zero for eight the first
think about that in Vegas. I'm gonna bet miss penalty
and I'm rolling over and I'm doubling it every single
one double and.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Miss here, miss here, miss here.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Miss I'll own the win at the end of this
penalty thing. I gotta know when to stop, though, I
got it what it'stopped.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
But the sweetish goally saved for that's one thing to
hit your post, sail it whatever, like for saves like yeah,
you're dominating, yeah, oh.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Yeah, I mean it's incredible, incredible, But I mean to
get I mean when I say yeah, I mean when
I say four, I mean four unsuccessful penalties converted.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
I mean, it's it's just I mean that that you
never see.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
You may never see that again, the fret you know,
out out of first four on each team.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
I really you may never see that again.
Speaker 6 (21:15):
First time in the history of the Women's Euros that
a team came back from two goals down in a
knockout match to win.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Man, I'll tell you. Uh so, congratulations England is the
play of the day. Uh So.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Meanwhile, in the NFL today, DJ Watt and the Steelers
agreed to a three year, one hundred and twenty three
million dollar extension.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Right now, this is a story that we knew was
going to have some sort of head to head solution because.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Wadd had, you know, put a couple of cryptic things
up on social media he wanted a new contract. Like
this is a guy who's been one of the top
two or three defensive players in the game over the
course of the past, you know, six or seven years,
coming off a really good year last year at the
age of thirty, eleven and a half sacks, right, I mean,
he's still one of the pre eminent defensive players in
the game and he's still playing at a high level. Right, So, okay,
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and I understand that you're paying TJ. Watt because you're
paying him for the player he is and has been,
and not the guy he's going to be. Right, we
still see the players like TJ. Watt, Miles Garrett. You know,
you get to the age of thirty, thirty one, thirty two, Hey,
you can still be dominant, but eventually, you know that
runs out you get into your mid thirties, into your
early thirties. So yeah, I think the Steelers know that, Okay,
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we'll get a good year from him this year, maybe
we get one more. Maybe you know, he's been healthy
for the most part his entire career, so okay, but
this is a contract that was for what he's done
and what he's going to do maybe this year, right,
which I get. But it's but in the end, and
you know there's a butt coming here. But this just
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shows you that the Steelers, I don't know that they
are really in tune with what it is to succeed
in the NFL in twenty twenty five. I really don't
look at this decision that they made. Okay, here's TJ. Watt,
we want him to retire a Steeler. That was their
whole big thing wanted to retire a Steeler. You know what,
first of all that era in sports, that's helen gone. Man,
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you are holding onto something that is thirty years old.
Oh we want him to have it. You know what happens.
You don't pay a guy that's thirty thirty one years
old one hundred and twenty million dollars where, boy, it's
really gonna suck. At a year and a half, this
contract is gonna really suck for us. You don't do that.
You let the guy go to another team, let somebody
else pay him, and in the end he comes back.
You retire his number. He retires a Steeler because he's
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always been a Steeler. He plays the majority's grist. That's
kind of how it goes. But the Steelers are stuck
with such an antiquated way of doing things like this
is something that really matters, and I'm scratching my head, going,
how do they think this is?
Speaker 2 (23:47):
This is gonna go right?
Speaker 1 (23:49):
You decided the Yeah, TJ. Watt terrific defensive players. Still
we've seen the best of him, though can't argue that
we've seen the best of him as he's thirty one
years old. They decided it was more important to them
to give TJ. Watt a three year contract at thirty
one instead of going in for the last couple of
years and going to get a quarterback and paying him
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to come in because it's the most important bleeping position
on the field. They've decided it's a hey, we want
to pay a defensive lineman all kinds of money who's
passed the age of thirty.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
But hey, quarterback, we want to.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Shop in the bargain bin and try to make it
work with Russell Wilson all maybe justin fields because the
Bears kicked them and oh now Aaron Rodgers doesn't have
a place to go, We're gonna go no, no, forget about
hey moving up, making a bold move in the draft
to go get your quarterback of the future, getting into
free agency, making a trade to go win now. Like
the Steelers, it's such an antiquated way.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Of doing it.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
It's almost like they're the Lakers of the NFL, in
which the Lakers run as a mom and pop store
for so long. Hey, this is how things used to be.
And look, I was sad when when the Lakers got
sold because I liked it. They that was kind of
what they were. But I also understand that's not a
way that's feasible to you run a team in twenty
twenty five. So yeah, when the Lakers got sold, like, okay,
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first thing he said was maybe now it's gonna be better.
Maybe now they're gonna be run like a like a
professional NBA twenty twenty five franchise.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
I look at the Steelers say the same thing.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
You guys know what it is to run a team, right,
You guys know that you can't keep going cheap at
quarterback like it's nineteen eighty five and you're gonna senter
out and say.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Hey, we can win with a We can win with
Neil O'Donnell.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Okay, look I watch video and Neil o'donnald getting the
Steelers to the super Bowl. We can No, you can't
do it that way. You don't win unless you have
you have a great quarterback. And the Steelers are one
of those teams where the standards are a little bit higher.
It's not just about hey we're staying competitive, we're winning.
The Steelers have different standards. And I watch this antiquated
way they're running things, and I just go, someone's gotta
(25:44):
have some kind of intervention. And tell the Steelers, hey,
you don't think it's really weird. You don't think that
that's the It's not the right thing to do to say,
here's a pass rusher over the age of thirty, here's
one hundred and twenty million dollars, and we're gonna sign
quarterbacks for absolutely next to nothing.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
What world does that make sense?
Speaker 5 (26:02):
One hundred and eight million of it guaranteed three year
extension back to back years. He did participate in all
seventeen games, nineteen and a half sacks two years ago,
eleven and a half this past year. You've got a
roster that Omar Khan he got his three year extension
that was announced a couple of weeks ago. So you've
got your bases in your quarterback position certainly is not
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pushed aside at all, right, because I've got my whole
tap system, the Harmon tap system. I need a thrower,
I need an attacker, and I need a protector. You
can give me whatever else you need out of that.
But if I got those three things, I'm feeling pretty good.
It's like my Big Three. See what I did. I
brought it back after the NBA killed it. But it's
the moving forward.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
You decided you saw enough on tape with his resume,
his history, the.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
First thing being, hey, we want him to retire here.
Probably not the best, but that's who they are, right.
Speaker 6 (26:58):
And it's the family.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
So they're gonna they're gonna acknowledge that at every turn,
and they did with all of the veterans in the past,
and even in changes in the front office. The Rooney
family remains at the top, so only so much change.
We do this with all the owners and every sport
Jason that are that are still their long term that
it's it's hard to what the proverbial teach an old
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dog new tricks kind of thing.
Speaker 6 (27:23):
Right.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
We do it with Jerry Jones. We do it in
baseball with my beloved White Sox, Bulls and all those franchises.
Maybe they're finally turning the page with the Bears. But
all of that to say, they decided this is where
they're gonna commit money, which means they're going to be
just good enough to be on the periphery of the playoffs,
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maybe get in and then eventually lose fairly quickly thereafter.
You and I don't know what it's like to have
a franchise that wins fairly consistently.
Speaker 6 (27:52):
We just don't Oh no, no, no, right.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
The FoST thing I have is the Mets because we
were in the NLCS last year and we're in a
wildcard spot this year.
Speaker 6 (28:00):
Yeah, you're in a World series a decade ago.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Yeah, that's not a big sample size man's.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
Year anniversary of a world series that ESPN refuses to acknowledge.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Okay, So all of that to say, I don't know
how I would like as a Steeler fan. You're excited.
Speaker 6 (28:18):
TJ. Watt stays right.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
It doesn't ultimately get to the tradeing for pennies on
the dollar and all of those things, But it's just
that curiosity of.
Speaker 6 (28:26):
How do you really feel about it?
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Are you okay with being just good enough versus going
towards greatness? It goes back to what we were talking
about with Damian Lillard, the rich tapestry we weave. Is
it good enough to just, hey, the check keeps going,
I got a thing to go show my wares, I
get to punch in, I punch.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
Out, and we go back to our lives. Or do
you actually want something a little more? That's the question.
And not having won twenty straight years, I have no idea.
How the hell that's supposed to feel. I haven't done
that since a couple of years with the Blackhawks and
and then the Bulls, all the way back to ninety
seven to ninety eight, ten years before Coldplay was like wow.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
And now cold Play catching straight. Yeah, Mike Harmon, Coldplay
got me. I mean, look, in no world does what
the Steelers do make sense. I mean, just think about
this for a second. What do we need need a quarterbacks?
What are we gonna do? We're gonna try to get
one as cheap as possible. I mean really, I mean
we were. They were lucky enough to have to be
sold on Roethlisberger for nearly two decades, and they won
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with him, and they won the Super Bowls. Yeah, they
won two. What a great time. And now they's like, yeah, no,
we don't want that anymore. Like whether it's the team
feels we can win with the quarterback being a necessary evil,
you can't. It's the NFL in twenty twenty five, or
however they arrive at these decisions.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
None of none of this makes sense. Not not even the.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Jets on their worst day would say, hey, we don't
need a quarterback. They just always go for the wrong ones.
The Jets know they need a quarterback. They just can't
pick it right no matter what, which makes it. You know,
it doesn't matter the little nervous now this year, aren't you.
They gonna go back and get Tom Brady in his
prime and they would probably screw it up. Ago Brady
just can't start stop throwing interceptions. All he does, throw
it deep, throw it deep like that. At least the
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Jets know, hey, we gotta go. Even the Lions that
couldn't get things done for a lot, what we gotta
go get a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Oh, they go get a quarterback. Okay, it works out.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
And the Steelers, hey, we're just gonna try to do
this with duct tape and gum like they're mcguiver and
they're trying to jerry rig something together to say, ah,
you know, I can I can blow up this big
bomb that's coming in by just using a twig and
and a sling shot and and and a doctor pepper.
How do we do it? Just trust me, Just trust me,
I'll do it. Like That's how the Steelers are trying
to do it. I mean, in no world does this
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make sense how they're doing things cheap at quarterback. But yeah,
we want to give a team legend three years and
one hundred and twenty three million dollars.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
Yeah, to be fair, the Lions always had the quarterback,
the running back, and wide receiver.
Speaker 6 (30:52):
They didn't have a whole hell of a lot else.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
There were a couple of good players that mix there
in I don't want to denigrate careers if some of
those linemen are a few of those defence.
Speaker 6 (31:01):
They're out there and they know who they are.
Speaker 5 (31:03):
But you know, Matthew Stafford was always everybody's favorite, your
favorite quarterback's favorite quarterback, and then he still had to
go to Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
To win.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Exit out bout a Fresca Exit Swollen down The Jason
Smith Show with Mike Carbon live from the Fox Sports
Radio studios, Time out to find out what's trending in
the wide world of sports. But guy who's been called
the Matthew Stafford of Fox Sports Radio, he spent so
much time in Detroit before he realized, I gotta get
to Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
It's Martin Weiss.
Speaker 6 (31:30):
And then he immediately started winning championship. About that.
Speaker 9 (31:37):
Nine time NBA All Star Damian Lillard finalizing a three year,
forty two million dollars contract return a contract to return
to the Portland Trail Blazers after a brief dalliance in Milwaukee.
The dealers expected to include a player option for twenty
twenty seven and a no trade clause. More than forty
w NBA players gathered Thursday for in person meeting with
(31:59):
the Women's Nation the WNBPA. It was the biggest in
person player turnout union history. During CBA talks, they met
for a couple hours and ended with no resolution. Caitlin
Clark will missed a three point contest on All Star
Game in Indianapolis this weekend after sustaining a groin injury
versus Sun on Tuesday. Her statement said that she'll be
(32:19):
present for all the action and I just saw social
media video of her walking up to I forget where
Courtney Williams plays now, but Courtney Williams is head. I
spent three hours watching your live stream as the WNBA
is doing their Opening Nights type of thing for their
All Star So she's locked in.
Speaker 6 (32:36):
She's locked in.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Will not be participating.
Speaker 9 (32:38):
Speaking of locked in, TJ Watt three years, one hundred
and twenty three million dollar extension that makes him the
highest paid none quarterback in NFL history, not for the
first time, but for the second time in his career
one hundred and eight fully guaranteed at signing forty one
million per year average. First baseman Rowdy tu Les took
part in the work out with the Texas Rangers Thursday,
with the expectation he'll join the team after the All
(33:00):
Star break ends tomorrow. Coach quarterback Anthony Richardson believed to
have recovered from his recent right shoulder setback as a
team prepares to report for training camp next week. And
the only first round pick who's not signed rookie Cincinnati
Bengal or might be. I guess Cincinnati Bigo's on his
draft rights, then they're not paying him yet. Shamar Stewart
Texas A and M. Mike Elko, this is where we're
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at with the hit. The tech coach of Texas A
and M squashed any speculation that Shamar Stewart may be
potentially seeking a return to college amid the contract dispute.
So things went well in Cincinnati, got transison.
Speaker 6 (33:34):
And they still got to pay that guy.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Joe, You know what are we doing?
Speaker 5 (33:37):
He's still heading flowers to TJ. Watt here's the thing,
you know.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
I mean, like, I had a really rough first year
out of college, like out of out of Syria, like
your early twenties is a tough age.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
But I had a really rough first year.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
I never thought about, Hey, I could go back to
colle I could if they let me, I would go back.
I'd be like, No, I'm too old now I'm twenty two,
I can't go back there. You got go back to
college till my friends are going. No, I can't do that.
Speaker 5 (34:01):
You could always make new friends, nada. You can run
the collegeine as you walked around campus.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
No, I'd feel like the old guy, like this guy graduated, okay,
keep by beer for us'd be friends of them. I'd
feel like I'm just like I'm hanging out with a
like i'd be babysitting kids. Meanwhile, I'm the same age
as a lot of the I couldn't go back to
college and they said, yeah, go do it, Like no,
I did you do it? And you're done and it's hard.
It's hard to go back.
Speaker 6 (34:23):
You'd go back and do it now?
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Though, Uh, you know, I always thought, honestly, if I
could come up with something where you know, they do
you know, fantasy camp for baseball and fantasy camp for
different sports, Like you go and you learn from legends
and you play baseball and everything. Like I said, could
you do college fantasy camp where you would you go
back to college for a week. You'd live in a
dorm and you know, with roommates everything, and you would
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go to classes. You go do the classes that you
want to go to, Like you talk about history or English.
You know'd be like book club or whatever it was,
or or history, and those are the classes you go
to and you eat on campus and you go out
to happy hour all the time.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Like, I don't know, would that be something people would
go for? I don't know. I always thought would that
be something people say?
Speaker 1 (35:03):
I'm gonna go relive, I got my my my back
to school week here, man would go back to college,
going back to Tennessee for a week. I got Tennessee
legends going back, gonna stay in the same dor, I'm
gonna stay like I wonder if that's something people would do.
Speaker 6 (35:15):
Yeah, people would pay for that, there's no think about y'all.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Absolutely patent pending.
Speaker 5 (35:20):
I really thought you were gonna say, can you go
and and teach people how to be on the radio whatever.
Speaker 6 (35:24):
Like I think there's some folks that are trying that.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
No, no, no, no, I just mean to go back
and live a week like it was a college Yeah, yeah, no,
And there's a market for that. You could blow off
whatever assignments you wanted to because at the end, you
don't have to worry about it. You're paying for it. Like, hey,
this assignment's do Friday, and you could choose to do
it or not do it. See, and that's the best part.
You just tell everybody you're a current college, pro football
or basketball player.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
I think there's something to that. Hang on, you know,
we got to get back, you know, let's put a
pin in this.
Speaker 6 (35:50):
To write back to that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Jason Smith Mike Harmon Live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios.
Coming up next to big time wide receivers in the
news today, two very different stories. That's next. Jason and
Mike Fox with us now on the hot Line. You
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Mark Stein, Mark. What's happening man? Happy summer?
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Nope? Is Mark there? Hey? Mark you there?
Speaker 4 (36:14):
I'm here. Hey, I'm here, I'm here. I heard you.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Okay, we got we got some you know.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Look, it's it. It's been a crazy show tonight, but
we're all good. How's your summer so far?
Speaker 4 (36:26):
You guys lost my number?
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Well, Harmon was on vacation. I got vacation. We you know,
we were taking some time.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Hey, you know it's it's it's the jet setting lifestyle
here we have on radio vacation.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
I mean, there's a little thing called NBA Free agency.
If you guys not heard of that, What do you
mean vacation?
Speaker 1 (36:46):
I know, but I can't keep waiting for the trades market.
Some At some point wife is gonna say, hey, we
got it. We gotta go at some point. I'm like, okay,
but the trades are coming any day, any day now.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
Yeah, you got July twenty fifth to mid August. What
are you missing? Exhibition football and NFL training camp?
Speaker 1 (37:04):
So are we still going to get that? Are we
still going to get any big trades coming soon? Or
is that kind of starting to go away?
Speaker 4 (37:11):
Well, look, I think you have to in all seriousness.
I mean, there were five six pretty significant trades before
the draft, and I think you guys have heard this
speech from me before that, Like if it didn't happen yesterday,
we all say this off season was a dudge. I
mean no, this off season was not a dud. And
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even today like Damian Lillard, Damian Lillard, you know, and
basically announcing that he is going back to the Portland
Trailblazers is a pretty significant mid July curve ball slash surprise.
So even free agency, you know, nobody has cap space,
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so free agents aren't moving from team to team. That's
just not the way it happens anymore, because so many
free agents sign extensions. But between trades, the way the
whole Miles Turner thing unfolded, and now Damian Lillard waved
and stretched but going back to the Blazers like I would,
(38:14):
I would stauntily dispute the notion of a dud summer.
But can I promise you another blockbuster trade on the
level of Kevin Durant to Houston Porzingis and Holiday getting
moved by the Celtics. I mean, I cannot promise you,
but I also wouldn't be shocked.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Well, well, what do you make of the Lillard thing
like that?
Speaker 1 (38:35):
We all thought, Okay, he's going to take a long time,
He's going to rehab in Portland before he chooses next
team and not Nope, he's back there three years, forty
two million.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
I think you guys know me pretty well by now.
I think you know I am an incurable romantic.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
So I love it.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
I love the story. Look, he asked out, he asked
for a trade. That was certainly part of it. Now,
I think the Blazers helped nudge him to that place.
It was not one hundred percent on him, but you
know it was. He left on his own volition, essentially
asking for a trade. They traded into Milwaukee. It didn't work.
(39:15):
I mean, you know, what the Bucks did was incredibly bold.
I mean, the Bucks have always been bold in the
yannasen to the Cumpo era, but no, what they gave
up to trade for Drew Holliday was massive, and that
led to a championship and an instant Jana Kumbo contract extension.
Before that, they made the big swing trade for Lillard
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that obviously didn't work nearly as well in the playoffs,
but that also led to a Janis and to the
Kumbo contract extension, and then just the pathway they took
to wave and stretch Lillard and create the cap space
to sign Miles Turner. And you know, we still don't
have a super clear indication of how Janna Santetokounpo really
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feels about that transaction. Have the Bucks done enough to
placate him and convince him that this team can get
back on a title winning pass. That will will have
to see and we'll see how that plays out. But
Damian Lillard decided to go back to Portland. He's going
to be out for this whole season. But uh, like
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I said, I you know, I don't know if they'll
ever win a championship now because the Blazers have a
lot of teams ahead of them in the West. But
I like, I like guys who wanted to stay in
one place, and you know, he did take a two
season d tour, but he is going to be I
mean he lives there in the off season. I mean
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that is his home and he is he is back
home now full time.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
So I love it. I really do.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
Mark talking about another buyout, you know, stretch kind of situation.
Clippers add Bradley Beal and finally he's got a new
home after all of the chaos that we had with Phoenix.
How much does it move the needle for them?
Speaker 4 (41:09):
Well, Bradley Beal on a five million dollar deal. You
would take that in a heartbeat. I mean, there was
a line out the door of teams that wanted Bradley
Beal unrestricted free agents. So you have to say, second
summer in a row, the Clippers let Paul George walk
for nothing, and that would have never happened under the
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previous CBA. But their moves last summer in this summer
since making that decision have been sensational because they are
very competitive in the now and they have financial flexibility
to make a big swing in the relatively near future.
So I think a lot of people around the league
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are really impressed by the way the Clippers have handled
their business. You know, they didn't want to sign Norman
power All too a long term deal. They turned him
into John Collins on an expiring deal. Brook Lopez to
join Zubach makes their front line better and again they
have a lot of flexibility going forward. So the Clippers
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are a very interesting team. And look, they still have
a veteran minimum available. There is mutual interest between the
Clippers and Chris Paul. Doesn't mean it is for sure
going to happen. I think both sides are still weighing it.
But Chris Paul's made it pretty clear he wants to
stay close to home. He wants to either play for
the Clippers or go back to Phoenix. You know, he
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had interest from Charlotte, his home state Hornets. The Bucks
would have loved to have Chris Paul. You know, he
wants to stay. If he's going to play a twenty
first season, he wants to be close to home. So
the Clippers might not be done. They might still add
Chris Paul. So look, Phoenix, I mean they pretty well
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this summer to try to get you know, they're they're
out of the they're out of the tax aprons now.
But it's just it's impossible not to think about how
much matt Ishbia, and it was matt Ishbia, the driving force,
gave up to trade for Durant, and then he insisted
on springing in Deal and like what they've had to
(43:23):
give up to extricate themselves from the dire financial position
they were in. You know, they've also made some nice acquisitions,
but I mean they are you know, they've had to
give up a lot of assets to to to move
away from Durant and Deal, and I do think they'll
be interesting. I do think they'll probably be better than
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people expect because Jalen Green has a lot to prove.
Ne's to Devin Booker, Dylan Brooks, Springs, the toughness that
Ishbia has been so open about wanting. So I mean,
I think they'll be a reasonably feisty team. But again,
and they just they gave up so much to get
Durant and then there took their payroll to just some
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really scary places by trading for Beale and just just
again like Bradley Beal with his buyout still walked away
with ninety seven millions and his free agency ninety seven
mili and his free agency. I'm gonna go out on
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a limb and say that was a buyout record.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
All right.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Lastly, Mark, Now we've seen all the stories the last
few days with the Lakers. They're building towards Luca Lebron
trade rumors, Lebron buyout rumors, all this craziness. If I
said to you fill in the blank between now and
the regular season, the Lakers do blank, what happens as
far as this whole storyline between now and the regular season.
Speaker 4 (44:53):
Look, I don't foresee a Lebron trade. It's just really,
you know, maybe something materializes. I mean, I'm in the
never say never mode after what we witnessed in February
when in the middle of the night on the Saturday
before the trade deadline, we saw Luca Dantage to Lakerland
trade that no one on Earth envision. So there is
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never say never, even even Miles Turner. I mean, the
whole league was expecting Miles Turner to stay in Indiana.
The fact that he's now Milwaukee was just a reminder
again that things move and things are fluid. But to
trade Lebron James, you have to, like the Lakers have
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to be happy with the long term money they're taking back,
because they don't want to take back any long term money.
Lebron has to be happy with where he lands because
he has the no trade clause, and the team that's
trading for him has to be wary of giving up
too much for even if Lebron plays great for another
year or two, you're not going to get more than
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a year or two out of him at this point
most likely. So it's just so hard to make the
trade work. To make that triangle of you know, of
parties involved, all happy to buy out makes zero sense.
Why Why would the Lakers buy him out whatever the
number is, to just let Lebron walk to a rival
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and make a rival team stronger. That doesn't make any
sense for the Lakers. The Lakers want Lebron for the
rest of the season, unless some amazing trade materializes that
meets all their future needs. But they're not just going
to say, Okay, you know what, we're going to buy
you out. Just just go sign for whoever you want
for the minimum. I just don't see that happening.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
He's on Twitter at the Steinline.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
That is at the Steinline, Mark, as always, thanks so much,
appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
We will. We'll talk to you next week. Well I will.
I'm on vacation, so Harmon will talk to you next week.
Speaker 6 (46:52):
Talk to you next week.
Speaker 4 (46:53):
Mark, somebody there likes me.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
You be good, brother, got you soon, good as mark'stide
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welcome back Mike Harmon, who you probably saw. How was
the Coldplay concert last night? You look like you're having
a good time. I saw you all over the place today.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
The hell of a run. Yeah, I mean I didn't
expect to see you, but.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
I was the guy before the guy. But yeah, whatever
you need to do with that, have had it.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Just making sure because it looked like you were having
a good time. And then you know, I don't know,
I mean, you know, apparently it was a thing today.
Speaker 6 (01:24):
Evidently got of a big deal.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
It's the first time Coldplay has been relevant other than
that that Beatles movie that came out.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Now, wait, how long a Viva Levita couldn't have been
twenty years ago? No, no, no, no, no, come on,
Viva lavin no way, Viva Viva Levita was like maybe
ten years ago.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I think he might be right.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
And wow, that was really fast that Alex Tischer had two.
Speaker 6 (01:48):
Thousand and eight.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
So was that long ago? Wow? So right in the
middle for us.
Speaker 6 (01:53):
Yeah, but any way, two eight seventeen. If we're gonna do.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Math, wells right there right in the middle.
Speaker 6 (02:01):
There, right a meeting part of the curve, in the.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Media, part of that curve. I can't believe it's been
that long ago.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
I mean, they bring people together in large drogs. But
do they bring people together or do they they? I
think you can you can argue both sides of the
coin on that.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
Well, the fact that he issued a statement now about
it blaming cold.
Speaker 6 (02:19):
Play, and it's cold Plays chuckling at him.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
And we didn't have to be on the Kiss camp.
We didn't have to be on this. It's not my fault.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Man.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
It's on the back of the ticket or the digital
representation thereof that you received from wherever you got your tickets,
saying on the back, once you go in, I'll be
off man.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you get it.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Yeah, anything that you can't in other words, basically it
should just say hey, by holding this ticket, you can't
sue us.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Like, that's all we need to say. You don't need
any fine.
Speaker 6 (02:46):
There's a lot of disclaimers.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yeah, I could save ink everywhere because people know by
this point, just say hey, if you hold this ticket,
you can't sue us.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
That's all you need to know. This a everybody knows.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Okay, great, Yeah, don't give about fine print all this stuff,
blah blah blah.
Speaker 6 (02:58):
This indentifies us about a lot of stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
All it is.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
Well, I mean, look, I never got paid for being
part of a video game many many years ago. I
couldn't even get them to give me a free game.
So I mean, what am I gonna do.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
If you were on the kiss cam? Maybe? Maybe because
I was.
Speaker 6 (03:12):
In the crowd, I was the cheering cam.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
But you know what, you look at Mike Harmon, he's
the guy in purple shorts that's cheering and yelling.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
Well, a couple of years ago I went to a
game with my brothers and ended up on camera for
quite a while. It became a thing around here, mocking me.
Speaker 6 (03:28):
For for a bit.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
All right, very nice, Okay.
Speaker 6 (03:31):
I had nothing to do with the incident in question.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Your brothers have anything to do with it because I
think they might know.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
You normally just accuse them of stealing things.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
I don't think they co opted any camera wells at
a cold Play concert. My brothers wouldn't walk across the
street to have anything to do with Coldplay shows. Okay,
cold Play is. Coldplay is very innocuous.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Cold Play is.
Speaker 6 (03:56):
I'm not demigrating them. I'm just telling you that my
brothers are.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
It's not something where I say, oh I have this
inventerate hatred. There's this ingrained hatred of cold Play.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
No, this is okay. You could like Coldplay, Okay, I'm
into their stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
I don't like that Coldplay doesn't invoke that kind of
reaction for some many they wouldn't care to walk across
the street for it. That's how little cold play is
meant in their respective life and was I like some
cold play? So I'll just say, hey, would you walk
across the street for something? I might walk across the street.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I mean I might do that. I mean I might not,
but I might walk away that street.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
It depends how big the street is. Are we talking
Vegas streets all right? Because if Vegas streets, probably not.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
That's gonna take me. It sent me forty five minutes
to walk across the street. Not gonna do it, Not
gonna do it.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Uh So, yes, you could take your pick tonight again
waiting for baseball to start tomorrow night. We got big
headlines out of the WNBA, out of the NFL, and
out of the NBA, A story that. Look, I admit,
there's not a lot that really surprises me. But seeing
this today, I was initially very surprised.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Then I got it. But to make a decision this fast.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Damian Lillard is going back home, and by home, I
mean he's going back to Portland. As he rehabs all
year from the injury suffered. Look he had he had
the blood clot as well, he had the torn achilles.
Missed the playoffs this year for the Bucks, and it
was an easy exit for Milwaukee out of the playoffs.
Here Milwaukee buys him out for over one hundred million dollars,
(05:23):
and hey, the narrative was Damian Lillard one of the
most exciting players in the NBA who's kind of passed
his prime a little bit, but still incredibly exciting. He's
gonna take his time, can rehab on his own back
in Portland with his family, and he'll take his time
picking his next team. He'll take nothing but time. Dah,
this is a decision that could be a year away. Nope,
it's already made, as he has decided to go back
(05:45):
to Portland for three years and forty two million dollars. Now,
it's not a lot of money, but obviously he's someone
who is Now you get to your age thirty five
year coming off an injury. The Blazers are gonna pay
him this year just to rehab because he's not going
to play all season long, and they're looking at what's
going to be likely a two year deal. He's also
(06:06):
getting a no trade clause and now he and Lebron
James are the only ones in the NBA with no
trade clauses.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
He also also told that money from Milwaukee. I mean,
you know, so he talked about with Bradley Beal yesterday.
It looks smallish. No, no, no, he's still getting a novelty
check from No.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I said when I was.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Getting that he's getting one hundred and thirteen million dollars.
But this contract, this is what the Blazers are on
the hook for. And it's three years and forty two million.
And you know, I'm happy for Damian Lillard. And I'm
starting to realize that not that I feel guilty, but
that I feel looking looking back at his career, there
(06:47):
was a lot of players. Let me let me start here.
There's a lot of thoughts in my head. I've had
a lot of coffee in the last few minutes. So
one of the conversations day, yeah, one of the kind
I used to rule. One of the conversations that Rick
Buker and I've had for a long time, right that
was on the air, off the air, is about how
there are a lot of NBA players that enjoy the
lifestyle of being an NBA star and the winning is
(07:09):
not something that they're so obsessed with. And look, this
is why players like Kobe and Lebron all cut through
because we know how badly they want to win, right
KD Steph Curry? All right, why we gravitate to these guys.
We talk about it all the time. We know how
badly they want to win. But not every star is
like that. And you see many stories of stars who
(07:30):
get to the NBA and are great players. But is
winning their ultimate goal? Winning an NBA title and then
when they win, go win one again? Or is the
ultimate goal? Hey, this is my dream to play in
the NBA. I love the lifestyle. Winning is great, but
if I don't win, it's okay. Like the old Scotti Scheffler, Hey,
winning is not that big a deal. You'ly gonna like
it for two minutes anyway. And there's a lot of
(07:51):
players who are like that. And now seeing Damian Lillard,
who had took him forever to leave Portland, and it was,
you know, kicking and screaming, hey dude, you gotta go.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Man.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
You I'm sick and tired of talking about how great
a player. You are at ten thirty at night in
the West Coast when only you know a dozen Portland
Trail Blazer fans live got to see you go for
fifty and start hitting stuff from the logo because the
Blazers are terrible and they're not on the radar screen. Dude,
you could be winning titles. Man, you could be going places.
You could go somewhere. And finally, after years and years
(08:24):
and years of this, okay, I'll go. And he goes
to Milwaukee and it doesn't go great, and it didn't
seem like he was ever really happy. His preferred destination
was Miami and he couldn't get there. So now what
does he do? He goes home. Clearly he doesn't care
about winning. So I wonder how much he ever cared
about winning. And you know what, sometimes I can say,
that's okay, right, it's okay if you if this is
(08:46):
the kind of player, but you have to understand if
you're going to trade for a guy like that, that
that's what motivates him. And so clearly seeing this with
Damian Lillard, yeah, already with this injury coming, I want
to go back home. Maybe I never really wanted to
leave to begin with But I want to go back
home to play and play the rest of Mike or
whatever it is it is, I can still find a joint.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I'm still gonna go out and try to win every night.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
But am I I'm but if I don't make it
far in the playoffs, okay, if I don't win the title,
it's okay. I'm gonna try to win wherever I can.
But am I gonna go crazy about building a winner?
Or am I gonna go and just enjoy the rest
of my career? That's Damian Lillard and.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
I feel like we've we we've we've.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Underestimated or or misappropriated him into the into the the
the group of players where it's like, hey, you're a
difference maker, go in a championship. You of course burn
to go win. He doesn't burn to go win. He
burns to play. He loves to play, He loves the game.
He does incredible things in Portland. He's one of the
most love beloved players in franchise history in the area.
(09:44):
But he's not quite wired like the elite, like we've
come up with Kobe and Lebron and Shaq and all
these guys that want to go and win and win
and win, and Steph Curry and give me another title,
and give me another title. He's just not that guy.
And I think now that we see him decide very quickly, Hey,
I'm okay going back home, and I fight it win,
I to win. That's kind of the guy he has
(10:04):
been throughout his career. Wasn't so much loyal to a
frand I found a place I like to play, and
I like playing here, and that's enough for me. And
that's kind of Damian Lillard. That's who he's always been.
But it took to get to this point where he
goes back home for us to really see it.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
That three paces.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
He might always have that moment of clarity along the
way too, you know, to everything turn, turn turn. I'm
gonna quote the birds all night now, but we or
the Bible, I guess they took that from But you
look at the situation, right, he goes home where his
kids are, so you know, that was swirling in the
background of a lot of this when he requested the
trade in twenty three. I think it was only the
(10:41):
heat that really came out and all the reporting as
a preferred destination goes to Milwaukee.
Speaker 6 (10:47):
How much you know this.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Now you can have the side conversation of how much
of this is Gianni's telling him, Yeah, I'm gonna be
here when you get back.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
So you had that going on it. You know, maybe
that's swirling yeah here too.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
But you know, in all walks of life, you come
into a situation bright eyed bushytawln. I got a lot
of people at work in education. I'm gonna be you.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
Know, a creator of young minds.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
I'm gonna do this, and then ten years later it's like, boy,
I'm in for ten, so I got to stay for
the extra you know, fifteen or whatever it is, until
I'm fully vested an age and whatever else to you know,
you come into those continuums, whatever it is you do
for your job. We talked about this a lot last night.
You can find the podcast about the Scottie Scheffler stuff,
(11:34):
et cetera. For Dame Lillard, you might have had that
guy that burned with desire back when he was drafted
in twenty twelve. You have a couple of big runs CJ.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
McCollum.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
They've had a pretty good squad, and then things change.
You have a major injury where you're not gonna be
able to play for a year puts things in perspective
that you know you're on the back nine, as it
will to continue the golf analogy, and you've only got
a couple of years left. You're in the Western com
but you're not expecting to win anything. The fourteen million
(12:03):
dollars seemed like if you really wanted to go home,
you might have taken a little less and given them
some more flexibility, you know, since yres still getting one
hundred million from Milwaukee. But you ended up you get
your closure. And it might have been loving it and
wanting to fight for for wins for a long long time,
but at some point you have that that moment where
(12:24):
things change and you recognize, hey, I still love the job,
I still love the paycheck, I still love the locker room,
whatever else, but winning maybe pushes away. We've talked with
guys a long time, right, A lot of football players. Hey,
I happened to be six seven, what are you gonna do?
And that's that's how I got basketball players. I was
good and I kept going. I mean, you know, you
make fun of my guys. You know, Evan Ashmeyer and
(12:47):
other eyes from North Northwestern as they played through a
couple of those guys went and played made pretty good
money in Europe. Did they make NBA money, No, but
they were taken care of pretty well.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Were they really good players, yeah, college they were good.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Not great, but there's a market for it. And you
play as long as you can. Right, rip the jersey
off my back. And for Dame Lillard, he gets to
go home, you know, I mean, look your girl Jennifer
Nettles sang about that with bon Jovi in his hair.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Yeah he's well, yeah, of course, one of the best
duets ever who says you can't go home.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
See now I got you. You're gonna be off track
all night because I brought up Jennifer Nettle.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Oh, I'll be singing sugar Land on. I'll be singing
sugar Land.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
Well, I'm gonna sing you some of the duets from
the Righteous Gemstones to take that.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
But look, not every NBA stars Kobe lebron Steph kd Brunson,
And that's okay, right, it's okay that because it's not
like I've seen him come out and he doesn't look
like he wants to win, right, Like I could say
that for someone like lamar Odom, who you know, his
goal was to.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Get to the NBA.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
And look, he was a guy who was in every
other game guy and lots of games he you know,
he didn't try to get into the game like I
felt like he was just there to play.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Damian Lillard plays hard.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
It's just he didn't burn to win like the fans
wanted him to, like we wanted Lillard to win, Like
I feel like we wanted Lillard to win more than
he wanted. That didn't burn for It's like, go somewhere,
go win a title, man, it'll be awesome. And Lillard
was like, yeah, I'm gonna play hard and try my best.
But if I don't, it's okay. I'm happy. I'm happy
with what's going on. And and and you know, we
(14:16):
we we mix we get that mixed up sometimes because hey,
we always think, well, guys want to win as much
as we want them to win.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
And look, certain sports, look football, everybody.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Wants to win, right you the stuff they put their
bodies through, they want to win every single time they
set foot on the field. Right, there's there's not that
out there, but there's others because of what you put
your body through. But other sports there are stars and
that's okay. And and if your efforts never in question,
if you're you're you know, you don't put everything on
the floor, uh everything lead everything out there, Okay, then
(14:46):
I can look at you and go all right, I
don't know that you you really deserve this money, deserve
this credit. But you see Lillard play, you know how
you know how much he tries to when every time
he gets on the floor, it's just, hey, I'm not
gonna sit here and try to recruit guys to come,
and I'm not going to try to worry about circumventing
the salary cap to sign here and go here and
play for a title.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Like he's not made to win.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
He's not made and judged by how many finals he
gets to like Lebron does.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
And you know, and that's okay, it's okay.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
For it's just weird for us to see this because
we we want to think that, hey, all the stars
we watch they want to win just as much as
we do.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
And that's just not the case.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
But as you let it led, the analysis was the
the idea of he was allegedly gonna take a bunch
of time, take some time to heal. See I get
all ties together, uh, and and then make a decision.
Other teams potentially interested. But that's a year like he's
not in the plans now, right, He's okay, you can
come and use the facilities, We'll get you a key card,
(15:45):
and you can go hang out with the trainers. So
we'll have to put you in their schedule. Beyond that,
you're not banking on them for this year at all.
So if you're your roster building with the idea that
you're trying to win, well, he's not a fit. Nor
are you gonna commit that kind of money to it
for a guy that's not gonna play. Where does that
make sense? Portland feel good story.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Maybe some folks still have the Damian Lillard cards that
they didn't burn in the barbecue pit this offseason, and
you just get to dust that out because your guy
came home, exit out about a Fresca exit swollen dome.
Jason Smith Mike Harmon, live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.
Just a little bit of a different way to look
at Damian Lillard after this big, I mean this big
(16:28):
sledgehammer of a headline today, deciding to go home already,
go back to Portland phone.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
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Well, when you go to penalties in the Euros and
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on an on baseball day you get to be the
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Speaker 8 (18:14):
It's smitha hold back, she's missed swayed it out and
it's England. They're into the semifiers.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Of the European Championship.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Glory delight for them. They had to come from two
ghost down. They did it a holiday.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
But hardway for Sweden.
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But that I know it's growing strong.
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I know you're listening to the call, but you were
just slinging along the Sweet Caroline in the background.
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That's how it goes. That's how you know.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
He showed up here last week, Neil Diamond musical going.
Speaker 6 (18:54):
He showed up and then they sang along Sweet Caroline.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Wow, who knew? Like you know? Forty years after Carol.
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Yeah, it's this little diddy that I wrote back in
the mid seventies. All of a sudden, they play it
in Red Sox games, It's on TVs and movies. Teams
have co opted it. I never have to work again.
I just get the royalty from sweet Caroline.
Speaker 6 (19:12):
It's brilliant. Keeps on rolling in the machine, rolls on.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
But this game Sweden England was an amazing afternoon watch
to nil Sweden. League evaporates. And then you have Jennifer Falk.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
These Swedish goalie saves four penalty get saves four? Not hey,
they missed it over the crossbark like Sweden did. As
you heard there a couple of times, including Fulk herself
with a chance to win the game, says four.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Here's a big deal about this is four players from
each team missed. Yeah, well you've never seen that. Usually
if there's two misses, that's a lot in the pendal.
I thought that's a horrible penalty for a team.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
The first four.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Players on each team missed. It's like, what is happening here?
We had four misses? Seriously four? And then loose Bronze
is the one who scores for England and you know
how Berman would say this, how Burn would call this.
I've been thinking about this all day. And DJ Lucy
Bronze with the game winner, moving England onto the semi
finals where they hope to not finish third.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
DJ I had to it writes itself, doesn't it writes.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
It's well done, It writes itself. Bronze helping them to
not finish third.
Speaker 6 (20:24):
Now it's really really good.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
Uh fight uh in this match all the way through
and then the penalty gigs were insane.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Man, I mean, you go zero for eight the first
think about that in Vegas. I'm gonna bet miss penalty
and I'm rolling over and I'm doubling it every single
one double and.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Miss here, miss here, miss here.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Miss I'll own the win at the end of this
penalty thing. I gotta know when to stop, though, I
got it what it'stopped.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
But the sweetish goally saved for that's one thing to
hit your post, sail it whatever, like for saves like yeah,
you're dominating, yeah, oh.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Yeah, I mean it's incredible, incredible, But I mean to
get I mean when I say yeah, I mean when
I say four, I mean four unsuccessful penalties converted.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
I mean, it's it's just I mean that that you
never see.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
You may never see that again, the fret you know,
out out of first four on each team.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
I really you may never see that again.
Speaker 6 (21:15):
First time in the history of the Women's Euros that
a team came back from two goals down in a
knockout match to win.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Man, I'll tell you. Uh so, congratulations England is the
play of the day. Uh So.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Meanwhile, in the NFL today, DJ Watt and the Steelers
agreed to a three year, one hundred and twenty three
million dollar extension.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Right now, this is a story that we knew was
going to have some sort of head to head solution because.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Wadd had, you know, put a couple of cryptic things
up on social media he wanted a new contract. Like
this is a guy who's been one of the top
two or three defensive players in the game over the
course of the past, you know, six or seven years,
coming off a really good year last year at the
age of thirty, eleven and a half sacks, right, I mean,
he's still one of the pre eminent defensive players in
the game and he's still playing at a high level. Right, So, okay,
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and I understand that you're paying TJ. Watt because you're
paying him for the player he is and has been,
and not the guy he's going to be. Right, we
still see the players like TJ. Watt, Miles Garrett. You know,
you get to the age of thirty, thirty one, thirty two, Hey,
you can still be dominant, but eventually, you know that
runs out you get into your mid thirties, into your
early thirties. So yeah, I think the Steelers know that, Okay,
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we'll get a good year from him this year, maybe
we get one more. Maybe you know, he's been healthy
for the most part his entire career, so okay, but
this is a contract that was for what he's done
and what he's going to do maybe this year, right,
which I get. But it's but in the end, and
you know there's a butt coming here. But this just
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shows you that the Steelers, I don't know that they
are really in tune with what it is to succeed
in the NFL in twenty twenty five. I really don't
look at this decision that they made. Okay, here's TJ. Watt,
we want him to retire a Steeler. That was their
whole big thing wanted to retire a Steeler. You know what,
first of all that era in sports, that's helen gone. Man,
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you are holding onto something that is thirty years old.
Oh we want him to have it. You know what happens.
You don't pay a guy that's thirty thirty one years
old one hundred and twenty million dollars where, boy, it's
really gonna suck. At a year and a half, this
contract is gonna really suck for us. You don't do that.
You let the guy go to another team, let somebody
else pay him, and in the end he comes back.
You retire his number. He retires a Steeler because he's
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always been a Steeler. He plays the majority's grist. That's
kind of how it goes. But the Steelers are stuck
with such an antiquated way of doing things like this
is something that really matters, and I'm scratching my head, going,
how do they think this is?
Speaker 2 (23:47):
This is gonna go right?
Speaker 1 (23:49):
You decided the Yeah, TJ. Watt terrific defensive players. Still
we've seen the best of him, though can't argue that
we've seen the best of him as he's thirty one
years old. They decided it was more important to them
to give TJ. Watt a three year contract at thirty
one instead of going in for the last couple of
years and going to get a quarterback and paying him
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to come in because it's the most important bleeping position
on the field. They've decided it's a hey, we want
to pay a defensive lineman all kinds of money who's
passed the age of thirty.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
But hey, quarterback, we want to.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Shop in the bargain bin and try to make it
work with Russell Wilson all maybe justin fields because the
Bears kicked them and oh now Aaron Rodgers doesn't have
a place to go, We're gonna go no, no, forget about
hey moving up, making a bold move in the draft
to go get your quarterback of the future, getting into
free agency, making a trade to go win now. Like
the Steelers, it's such an antiquated way.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Of doing it.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
It's almost like they're the Lakers of the NFL, in
which the Lakers run as a mom and pop store
for so long. Hey, this is how things used to be.
And look, I was sad when when the Lakers got
sold because I liked it. They that was kind of
what they were. But I also understand that's not a
way that's feasible to you run a team in twenty
twenty five. So yeah, when the Lakers got sold, like, okay,
(25:03):
first thing he said was maybe now it's gonna be better.
Maybe now they're gonna be run like a like a
professional NBA twenty twenty five franchise.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
I look at the Steelers say the same thing.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
You guys know what it is to run a team, right,
You guys know that you can't keep going cheap at
quarterback like it's nineteen eighty five and you're gonna senter
out and say.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Hey, we can win with a We can win with
Neil O'Donnell.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Okay, look I watch video and Neil o'donnald getting the
Steelers to the super Bowl. We can No, you can't
do it that way. You don't win unless you have
you have a great quarterback. And the Steelers are one
of those teams where the standards are a little bit higher.
It's not just about hey we're staying competitive, we're winning.
The Steelers have different standards. And I watch this antiquated
way they're running things, and I just go, someone's gotta
(25:44):
have some kind of intervention. And tell the Steelers, hey,
you don't think it's really weird. You don't think that
that's the It's not the right thing to do to say,
here's a pass rusher over the age of thirty, here's
one hundred and twenty million dollars, and we're gonna sign
quarterbacks for absolutely next to nothing.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
What world does that make sense?
Speaker 5 (26:02):
One hundred and eight million of it guaranteed three year
extension back to back years. He did participate in all
seventeen games, nineteen and a half sacks two years ago,
eleven and a half this past year. You've got a
roster that Omar Khan he got his three year extension
that was announced a couple of weeks ago. So you've
got your bases in your quarterback position certainly is not
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pushed aside at all, right, because I've got my whole
tap system, the Harmon tap system. I need a thrower,
I need an attacker, and I need a protector. You
can give me whatever else you need out of that.
But if I got those three things, I'm feeling pretty good.
It's like my Big Three. See what I did. I
brought it back after the NBA killed it. But it's
the moving forward.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
You decided you saw enough on tape with his resume,
his history, the.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
First thing being, hey, we want him to retire here.
Probably not the best, but that's who they are, right.
Speaker 6 (26:58):
And it's the family.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
So they're gonna they're gonna acknowledge that at every turn,
and they did with all of the veterans in the past,
and even in changes in the front office. The Rooney
family remains at the top, so only so much change.
We do this with all the owners and every sport
Jason that are that are still their long term that
it's it's hard to what the proverbial teach an old
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dog new tricks kind of thing.
Speaker 6 (27:23):
Right.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
We do it with Jerry Jones. We do it in
baseball with my beloved White Sox, Bulls and all those franchises.
Maybe they're finally turning the page with the Bears. But
all of that to say, they decided this is where
they're gonna commit money, which means they're going to be
just good enough to be on the periphery of the playoffs,
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maybe get in and then eventually lose fairly quickly thereafter.
You and I don't know what it's like to have
a franchise that wins fairly consistently.
Speaker 6 (27:52):
We just don't Oh no, no, no, right.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
The FoST thing I have is the Mets because we
were in the NLCS last year and we're in a
wildcard spot this year.
Speaker 6 (28:00):
Yeah, you're in a World series a decade ago.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Yeah, that's not a big sample size man's.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
Year anniversary of a world series that ESPN refuses to acknowledge.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Okay, So all of that to say, I don't know
how I would like as a Steeler fan. You're excited.
Speaker 6 (28:18):
TJ. Watt stays right.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
It doesn't ultimately get to the tradeing for pennies on
the dollar and all of those things, But it's just
that curiosity of.
Speaker 6 (28:26):
How do you really feel about it?
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Are you okay with being just good enough versus going
towards greatness? It goes back to what we were talking
about with Damian Lillard, the rich tapestry we weave. Is
it good enough to just, hey, the check keeps going,
I got a thing to go show my wares, I
get to punch in, I punch.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
Out, and we go back to our lives. Or do
you actually want something a little more? That's the question.
And not having won twenty straight years, I have no idea.
How the hell that's supposed to feel. I haven't done
that since a couple of years with the Blackhawks and
and then the Bulls, all the way back to ninety
seven to ninety eight, ten years before Coldplay was like wow.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
And now cold Play catching straight. Yeah, Mike Harmon, Coldplay
got me. I mean, look, in no world does what
the Steelers do make sense. I mean, just think about
this for a second. What do we need need a quarterbacks?
What are we gonna do? We're gonna try to get
one as cheap as possible. I mean really, I mean
we were. They were lucky enough to have to be
sold on Roethlisberger for nearly two decades, and they won
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with him, and they won the Super Bowls. Yeah, they
won two. What a great time. And now they's like, yeah, no,
we don't want that anymore. Like whether it's the team
feels we can win with the quarterback being a necessary evil,
you can't. It's the NFL in twenty twenty five, or
however they arrive at these decisions.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
None of none of this makes sense. Not not even the.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Jets on their worst day would say, hey, we don't
need a quarterback. They just always go for the wrong ones.
The Jets know they need a quarterback. They just can't
pick it right no matter what, which makes it. You know,
it doesn't matter the little nervous now this year, aren't you.
They gonna go back and get Tom Brady in his
prime and they would probably screw it up. Ago Brady
just can't start stop throwing interceptions. All he does, throw
it deep, throw it deep like that. At least the
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Jets know, hey, we gotta go. Even the Lions that
couldn't get things done for a lot, what we gotta
go get a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Oh, they go get a quarterback. Okay, it works out.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
And the Steelers, hey, we're just gonna try to do
this with duct tape and gum like they're mcguiver and
they're trying to jerry rig something together to say, ah,
you know, I can I can blow up this big
bomb that's coming in by just using a twig and
and a sling shot and and and a doctor pepper.
How do we do it? Just trust me, Just trust me,
I'll do it. Like That's how the Steelers are trying
to do it. I mean, in no world does this
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make sense how they're doing things cheap at quarterback. But yeah,
we want to give a team legend three years and
one hundred and twenty three million dollars.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
Yeah, to be fair, the Lions always had the quarterback,
the running back, and wide receiver.
Speaker 6 (30:52):
They didn't have a whole hell of a lot else.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
There were a couple of good players that mix there
in I don't want to denigrate careers if some of
those linemen are a few of those defence.
Speaker 6 (31:01):
They're out there and they know who they are.
Speaker 5 (31:03):
But you know, Matthew Stafford was always everybody's favorite, your
favorite quarterback's favorite quarterback, and then he still had to
go to Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
To win.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Exit out bout a Fresca Exit Swollen down The Jason
Smith Show with Mike Carbon live from the Fox Sports
Radio studios, Time out to find out what's trending in
the wide world of sports. But guy who's been called
the Matthew Stafford of Fox Sports Radio, he spent so
much time in Detroit before he realized, I gotta get
to Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
It's Martin Weiss.
Speaker 6 (31:30):
And then he immediately started winning championship. About that.
Speaker 9 (31:37):
Nine time NBA All Star Damian Lillard finalizing a three year,
forty two million dollars contract return a contract to return
to the Portland Trail Blazers after a brief dalliance in Milwaukee.
The dealers expected to include a player option for twenty
twenty seven and a no trade clause. More than forty
w NBA players gathered Thursday for in person meeting with
(31:59):
the Women's Nation the WNBPA. It was the biggest in
person player turnout union history. During CBA talks, they met
for a couple hours and ended with no resolution. Caitlin
Clark will missed a three point contest on All Star
Game in Indianapolis this weekend after sustaining a groin injury
versus Sun on Tuesday. Her statement said that she'll be
(32:19):
present for all the action and I just saw social
media video of her walking up to I forget where
Courtney Williams plays now, but Courtney Williams is head. I
spent three hours watching your live stream as the WNBA
is doing their Opening Nights type of thing for their
All Star So she's locked in.
Speaker 6 (32:36):
She's locked in.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Will not be participating.
Speaker 9 (32:38):
Speaking of locked in, TJ Watt three years, one hundred
and twenty three million dollar extension that makes him the
highest paid none quarterback in NFL history, not for the
first time, but for the second time in his career
one hundred and eight fully guaranteed at signing forty one
million per year average. First baseman Rowdy tu Les took
part in the work out with the Texas Rangers Thursday,
with the expectation he'll join the team after the All
(33:00):
Star break ends tomorrow. Coach quarterback Anthony Richardson believed to
have recovered from his recent right shoulder setback as a
team prepares to report for training camp next week. And
the only first round pick who's not signed rookie Cincinnati
Bengal or might be. I guess Cincinnati Bigo's on his
draft rights, then they're not paying him yet. Shamar Stewart
Texas A and M. Mike Elko, this is where we're
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at with the hit. The tech coach of Texas A
and M squashed any speculation that Shamar Stewart may be
potentially seeking a return to college amid the contract dispute.
So things went well in Cincinnati, got transison.
Speaker 6 (33:34):
And they still got to pay that guy.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Joe, You know what are we doing?
Speaker 5 (33:37):
He's still heading flowers to TJ. Watt here's the thing,
you know.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
I mean, like, I had a really rough first year
out of college, like out of out of Syria, like
your early twenties is a tough age.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
But I had a really rough first year.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
I never thought about, Hey, I could go back to
colle I could if they let me, I would go back.
I'd be like, No, I'm too old now I'm twenty two,
I can't go back there. You got go back to
college till my friends are going. No, I can't do that.
Speaker 5 (34:01):
You could always make new friends, nada. You can run
the collegeine as you walked around campus.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
No, I'd feel like the old guy, like this guy graduated, okay,
keep by beer for us'd be friends of them. I'd
feel like I'm just like I'm hanging out with a
like i'd be babysitting kids. Meanwhile, I'm the same age
as a lot of the I couldn't go back to
college and they said, yeah, go do it, Like no,
I did you do it? And you're done and it's hard.
It's hard to go back.
Speaker 6 (34:23):
You'd go back and do it now?
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Though, Uh, you know, I always thought, honestly, if I
could come up with something where you know, they do
you know, fantasy camp for baseball and fantasy camp for
different sports, Like you go and you learn from legends
and you play baseball and everything. Like I said, could
you do college fantasy camp where you would you go
back to college for a week. You'd live in a
dorm and you know, with roommates everything, and you would
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go to classes. You go do the classes that you
want to go to, Like you talk about history or English.
You know'd be like book club or whatever it was,
or or history, and those are the classes you go
to and you eat on campus and you go out
to happy hour all the time.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Like, I don't know, would that be something people would
go for? I don't know. I always thought would that
be something people say?
Speaker 1 (35:03):
I'm gonna go relive, I got my my my back
to school week here, man would go back to college,
going back to Tennessee for a week. I got Tennessee
legends going back, gonna stay in the same dor, I'm
gonna stay like I wonder if that's something people would do.
Speaker 6 (35:15):
Yeah, people would pay for that, there's no think about y'all.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Absolutely patent pending.
Speaker 5 (35:20):
I really thought you were gonna say, can you go
and and teach people how to be on the radio whatever.
Speaker 6 (35:24):
Like I think there's some folks that are trying that.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
No, no, no, no, I just mean to go back
and live a week like it was a college Yeah, yeah, no,
And there's a market for that. You could blow off
whatever assignments you wanted to because at the end, you
don't have to worry about it. You're paying for it. Like, hey,
this assignment's do Friday, and you could choose to do
it or not do it. See, and that's the best part.
You just tell everybody you're a current college, pro football
or basketball player.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
I think there's something to that. Hang on, you know,
we got to get back, you know, let's put a
pin in this.
Speaker 6 (35:50):
To write back to that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Jason Smith Mike Harmon Live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios.
Coming up next to big time wide receivers in the
news today, two very different stories. That's next. Jason and
Mike Fox with us now on the hot Line. You
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Mark Stein, Mark. What's happening man? Happy summer?
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Nope? Is Mark there? Hey? Mark you there?
Speaker 4 (36:14):
I'm here. Hey, I'm here, I'm here. I heard you.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Okay, we got we got some you know.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Look, it's it. It's been a crazy show tonight, but
we're all good. How's your summer so far?
Speaker 4 (36:26):
You guys lost my number?
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Well, Harmon was on vacation. I got vacation. We you know,
we were taking some time.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Hey, you know it's it's it's the jet setting lifestyle
here we have on radio vacation.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
I mean, there's a little thing called NBA Free agency.
If you guys not heard of that, What do you
mean vacation?
Speaker 1 (36:46):
I know, but I can't keep waiting for the trades market.
Some At some point wife is gonna say, hey, we
got it. We gotta go at some point. I'm like, okay,
but the trades are coming any day, any day now.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
Yeah, you got July twenty fifth to mid August. What
are you missing? Exhibition football and NFL training camp?
Speaker 1 (37:04):
So are we still going to get that? Are we
still going to get any big trades coming soon? Or
is that kind of starting to go away?
Speaker 4 (37:11):
Well, look, I think you have to in all seriousness.
I mean, there were five six pretty significant trades before
the draft, and I think you guys have heard this
speech from me before that, Like if it didn't happen yesterday,
we all say this off season was a dudge. I
mean no, this off season was not a dud. And
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even today like Damian Lillard, Damian Lillard, you know, and
basically announcing that he is going back to the Portland
Trailblazers is a pretty significant mid July curve ball slash surprise.
So even free agency, you know, nobody has cap space,
(37:52):
so free agents aren't moving from team to team. That's
just not the way it happens anymore, because so many
free agents sign extensions. But between trades, the way the
whole Miles Turner thing unfolded, and now Damian Lillard waved
and stretched but going back to the Blazers like I would,
(38:14):
I would stauntily dispute the notion of a dud summer.
But can I promise you another blockbuster trade on the
level of Kevin Durant to Houston Porzingis and Holiday getting
moved by the Celtics. I mean, I cannot promise you,
but I also wouldn't be shocked.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Well, well, what do you make of the Lillard thing
like that?
Speaker 1 (38:35):
We all thought, Okay, he's going to take a long time,
He's going to rehab in Portland before he chooses next
team and not Nope, he's back there three years, forty
two million.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
I think you guys know me pretty well by now.
I think you know I am an incurable romantic.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
So I love it.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
I love the story. Look, he asked out, he asked
for a trade. That was certainly part of it. Now,
I think the Blazers helped nudge him to that place.
It was not one hundred percent on him, but you
know it was. He left on his own volition, essentially
asking for a trade. They traded into Milwaukee. It didn't work.
(39:15):
I mean, you know, what the Bucks did was incredibly bold.
I mean, the Bucks have always been bold in the
yannasen to the Cumpo era, but no, what they gave
up to trade for Drew Holliday was massive, and that
led to a championship and an instant Jana Kumbo contract extension.
Before that, they made the big swing trade for Lillard
(39:38):
that obviously didn't work nearly as well in the playoffs,
but that also led to a Janis and to the
Kumbo contract extension, and then just the pathway they took
to wave and stretch Lillard and create the cap space
to sign Miles Turner. And you know, we still don't
have a super clear indication of how Janna Santetokounpo really
(40:04):
feels about that transaction. Have the Bucks done enough to
placate him and convince him that this team can get
back on a title winning pass. That will will have
to see and we'll see how that plays out. But
Damian Lillard decided to go back to Portland. He's going
to be out for this whole season. But uh, like
(40:26):
I said, I you know, I don't know if they'll
ever win a championship now because the Blazers have a
lot of teams ahead of them in the West. But
I like, I like guys who wanted to stay in
one place, and you know, he did take a two
season d tour, but he is going to be I
mean he lives there in the off season. I mean
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that is his home and he is he is back
home now full time.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
So I love it. I really do.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
Mark talking about another buyout, you know, stretch kind of situation.
Clippers add Bradley Beal and finally he's got a new
home after all of the chaos that we had with Phoenix.
How much does it move the needle for them?
Speaker 4 (41:09):
Well, Bradley Beal on a five million dollar deal. You
would take that in a heartbeat. I mean, there was
a line out the door of teams that wanted Bradley
Beal unrestricted free agents. So you have to say, second
summer in a row, the Clippers let Paul George walk
for nothing, and that would have never happened under the
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previous CBA. But their moves last summer in this summer
since making that decision have been sensational because they are
very competitive in the now and they have financial flexibility
to make a big swing in the relatively near future.
So I think a lot of people around the league
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are really impressed by the way the Clippers have handled
their business. You know, they didn't want to sign Norman
power All too a long term deal. They turned him
into John Collins on an expiring deal. Brook Lopez to
join Zubach makes their front line better and again they
have a lot of flexibility going forward. So the Clippers
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are a very interesting team. And look, they still have
a veteran minimum available. There is mutual interest between the
Clippers and Chris Paul. Doesn't mean it is for sure
going to happen. I think both sides are still weighing it.
But Chris Paul's made it pretty clear he wants to
stay close to home. He wants to either play for
the Clippers or go back to Phoenix. You know, he
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had interest from Charlotte, his home state Hornets. The Bucks
would have loved to have Chris Paul. You know, he
wants to stay. If he's going to play a twenty
first season, he wants to be close to home. So
the Clippers might not be done. They might still add
Chris Paul. So look, Phoenix, I mean they pretty well
(43:00):
this summer to try to get you know, they're they're
out of the they're out of the tax aprons now.
But it's just it's impossible not to think about how
much matt Ishbia, and it was matt Ishbia, the driving force,
gave up to trade for Durant, and then he insisted
on springing in Deal and like what they've had to
(43:23):
give up to extricate themselves from the dire financial position
they were in. You know, they've also made some nice acquisitions,
but I mean they are you know, they've had to
give up a lot of assets to to to move
away from Durant and Deal, and I do think they'll
be interesting. I do think they'll probably be better than
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people expect because Jalen Green has a lot to prove.
Ne's to Devin Booker, Dylan Brooks, Springs, the toughness that
Ishbia has been so open about wanting. So I mean,
I think they'll be a reasonably feisty team. But again,
and they just they gave up so much to get
Durant and then there took their payroll to just some
(44:05):
really scary places by trading for Beale and just just
again like Bradley Beal with his buyout still walked away
with ninety seven millions and his free agency ninety seven
mili and his free agency. I'm gonna go out on
(44:27):
a limb and say that was a buyout record.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
All right.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Lastly, Mark, Now we've seen all the stories the last
few days with the Lakers. They're building towards Luca Lebron
trade rumors, Lebron buyout rumors, all this craziness. If I
said to you fill in the blank between now and
the regular season, the Lakers do blank, what happens as
far as this whole storyline between now and the regular season.
Speaker 4 (44:53):
Look, I don't foresee a Lebron trade. It's just really,
you know, maybe something materializes. I mean, I'm in the
never say never mode after what we witnessed in February
when in the middle of the night on the Saturday
before the trade deadline, we saw Luca Dantage to Lakerland
trade that no one on Earth envision. So there is
(45:17):
never say never, even even Miles Turner. I mean, the
whole league was expecting Miles Turner to stay in Indiana.
The fact that he's now Milwaukee was just a reminder
again that things move and things are fluid. But to
trade Lebron James, you have to, like the Lakers have
(45:38):
to be happy with the long term money they're taking back,
because they don't want to take back any long term money.
Lebron has to be happy with where he lands because
he has the no trade clause, and the team that's
trading for him has to be wary of giving up
too much for even if Lebron plays great for another
year or two, you're not going to get more than
(45:58):
a year or two out of him at this point
most likely. So it's just so hard to make the
trade work. To make that triangle of you know, of
parties involved, all happy to buy out makes zero sense.
Why Why would the Lakers buy him out whatever the
number is, to just let Lebron walk to a rival
(46:20):
and make a rival team stronger. That doesn't make any
sense for the Lakers. The Lakers want Lebron for the
rest of the season, unless some amazing trade materializes that
meets all their future needs. But they're not just going
to say, Okay, you know what, we're going to buy
you out. Just just go sign for whoever you want
for the minimum. I just don't see that happening.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
He's on Twitter at the Steinline.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
That is at the Steinline, Mark, as always, thanks so much,
appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
We will. We'll talk to you next week. Well I will.
I'm on vacation, so Harmon will talk to you next week.
Speaker 6 (46:52):
Talk to you next week.
Speaker 4 (46:53):
Mark, somebody there likes me.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
You be good, brother, got you soon, good as mark'stide
is the best
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