August 9, 2025 • 44 mins
Jason and Mike celebrate the return of NFL football with a full slate of games, a star driven guest list, and some hot takes you don't want to miss!
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
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this is one of those There's like two or three
days over the course of the argo. You know what,
I need a break from the Mets, and tonight's lost
to the Guardian Tonight' say you know what, I need
a break?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I need.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Though that number has risen substantially the last couple of years.
I think your expectations, I think it goes in line
with your age, because like you see the shell shedding
of your mortal coil some fifty years in the distance,
and that shrinking a little bit, which means the expectations
my team needs to win now. So when you see
baby going to field the ground ball and envisioning not
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the first basement club and where he's gonna throw it,
but how he'll look at a Yankees uniform making.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
That terrible throw, because he would fit right in. I
saw you die a.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Little bit inside, a little little Jason Smith took one
for the team, right.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
This was it was hard, very this was difficult. This
was difficult, fifty difficult.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Especially while bab Schwarber keeps rounding the bases like a superhuman,
like he's one of the fantastic for well, you know,
like he's doing all that stuff, then you're gonna try
failing to keep pace. And so when you see a
team score two runs without a hit, including an air
mail throw to second base, the second basements, looking at
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him going really really.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Come back from down five nothing, tie the game, bases
loaded in the bottom of the eighth the only get
would know out you get one run, bases loaded, one out,
and the ninth thing you get zero runs. Like I mean,
like I need a Like, okay, I need a break
from you put the ball in play strikes out.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
I need a break. I'll never come on.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Man. The one of the worst day that my wife
and I ever had. Okay, the worst day we had.
I'm going back like this is like twenty five years.
The worst day we had was when uh and I
was working at Fox is when I was a produced.
This goes back like before, like this is like nineteen
ninety eight, nineteen ninety seven, and we each took you know,
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with the dude, the cars we had. We'd been together
for about four or five years at that point, and
the and we each took each other's car to work
like it didn't matter, like we're taking the car this day,
like it made difference, right, So I forgot about this.
We were coming off a rain storm here in La
you know, back when it used to rain in La.
And I went to work in the morning, and I
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took whatever car we had. I forget and I get
to work, and I get in and I start going
and I see I have a voicemail at work.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
I get a voicemail and it's my.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Wife, and she goes, so you take the other car
when I go to take to take the GJGEO storm.
When I go to take the storm, only to realize
that you left the window open, the sun roof all
weekend with the rain. I am soaked when I get
to you know what, let's just not talk to each
other for the next few hours. Let's let's have a
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little bit of a break. And it is kind of fun.
And I'm listening on the fun I'm going, oh no,
and I realized that. Okay, she knows I didn't do
it on purpose. She knows I didn't do it with
any sort of malicious intent or it was just I
happened to take the other car because I just did.
I don't know why I just did. And I forgot
that oh yeah, I left the sun roof up and
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oh yeah rain, And so she she had to drive
to work sitting on that soaking wet seat. Well, oh boy,
oh boy, she says, let's take it. Let's let's let's
take a break. Let's not talk for the next few
I'm like, okay, because we would always talk like two
three times a day when we're not worth all this, I'm.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Like, do I call her?
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Or do I do I respect the fact that she
really doesn't want to talk to me. I'm like, you
know what, I'm I'm gonna respect that, and I'm gonna
figure out some great place for us to go to
dinner tonight. I'm gonna figure out something great. I have
like six or seven hours to figure something out great.
And the good thing was, after she had the day,
she said, hey, I'm sorry, it's a little too harsh.
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I'm sorry. I didn't I know you didn't do it.
I said, no, no, I look, I'm sorry because I
forgot that I did that. I would have never done that,
and everything to have to be okay. And then ever
since then I realized, okay, you know, sometimes taking a
taking a break, like a little bit, you know, a
day or whatever it is, sometimes it turns out well,
you can reset and standing all right, something happened and
we can go forward. And that's always felt like, you
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know what, there's two three days here. I need a break.
I need a break from the I need a break.
I'm sorry, it's not me, it's you, but I need
a break. Man, I need a break from this craptasticness
that's been going on the last couple of months.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Gotta make you feel better by talking about Jets practice.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
No, this is this is what gets me better is
that you know, last week, right to get to the
big developing story in the NFL. Right, you get to
the big developing story in the end, we'll talk about
justin fields. Uh, you get to the big developing story
in the NFL last week, you know, we had the
big hot take that and I firmly believe this that
the Browns are gonna start all four quarterbacks at some point. Now, well,
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of course.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
That's what I'm doing. I'm setting this whole thing up
so I can do the Fantastic four. But no, no,
I gotta jump in and say the tyl Atley gout sign.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
I had the whole thing set up for us to
do Fantastic four.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
Fans, Franklin, you No, I gotta jump in and I
gotta ruin the joke. Do you want to go to
I Open Mike Night and start shouting out all the
jokes When I said, hey, if I something about Mike Harmon,
two words about Mike Harmon.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
He is cheap and ugly, like what he is? What
do you want me to do?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Wrong?
Speaker 1 (06:11):
And I and the whole thing set up no matter,
sun row fann and like the storm I came in
doesn't matter. You wrote, had the great things set up?
Now now you ruined it. You sing the song you
ruined it? No, now it's over because that's about the
fantastic thought.
Speaker 6 (06:26):
I don't have it.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
I mean, is there a Fantastic five song yet you
ruined it?
Speaker 6 (06:30):
No?
Speaker 3 (06:30):
You right that show?
Speaker 1 (06:33):
I don't think fantastic We're gonna do the sequel yet
it's not gonna do. I don't think fantastic for it's
getting a sequel. What did it fall off like nine
million percent from week one? Like ninety Yeah, I don't
think that's happening. I mean word of mouth. I mean
Galactus was there. He looked cool on the big screen
so on an Imax, Hey you look big?
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Uh he sucked.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
So yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
So we talked about this last week that the well
that the Fantastic four, every single quarterback of the Browns
was gonna start at least one game this year. But
you kind of know that now because Mike Carbon has
had to jump everybody and say, but.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
They signed Tyler Hutley.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Yes, so now they signed Franklin and now they have
Tyler Hutley because everybody is hurt. Shadora Sanders was hurt
and now he's back at practice, Dylan Gabriel is dinged up,
Kenny Pickett still has a practice. And so now we
could potentially get five starting quarterbacks from the Browns this year.
If we go into the season where a couple of
guys are hurt and it takes them a while to come.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Back, five guys you can get fun. We go from
fantastic four to five guys. That's where we're going.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Over priced fast casual meal. By the way, I think
you spoiled a bunch of stuffy by bringing Franklin in,
because I don't think a lot of people know who
to help Franklin. I know, I think is the dude
from Peanuts.
Speaker 7 (07:49):
Peanut.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
No, you saw the movie and and and you're not
gonna wait, I'm gonna go see it in week three.
At this point, with the way it dropped off, you
either saw it week one and and if you really
wanted to see it, you saw it week two. You're
not saying, well, week three, I'm gonna go back now
you saw it, if you wanted to see it.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
I debated seeing it again, and then I went and
saw the Naked Gun instead. Much much better experience. Good crowd, uh,
highly entertaining. But but yeah, I mean, you've got Shador
Sanders was listed with the the injury right to his
shoulder fatigue and all. Kurt Banker, former NFL quarterback, he's
got his coach book that you can buy and all it. Uh,
you know, here's through the eyes of a quarterback. He goes,
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that's usually right right about the the injury you you
announced right before you're gonna trade a guy.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Yeah, and then they signed it, you know, I mean really,
I mean, look, Tyler Huntley, who was, you know, potentially
at one point was the best backup quarterback in the NFL.
And yeah, no, he wasn't gonna, you know, obviously take
the job in Baltimore. But oh, Tyler Huntley's so good,
he's such a great value to have, he's gonna go
someplace else and great. No, no, no, Now you're the
fifth guy that you have now at practice for the Browns, right,
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and clearly part of it is circumstanced because they have
joint practice coming up tomorrow and the next I believe
with the Panthers, and then their first game is this weekend.
So okay, you need a third quarterback because you got
guys dinged up. But for the whole summer it's been
not enough, not enough reps. Now everybody's got the reps.
Now you got the reps, right, flack O can get
the reps. Shador Sanders can get thereight, you guys got
got the guys the reps. Now every guy, everybody could
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have the reps. But now Gabriel and and pick it.
And what I mean, really, we're talking so much about
Sanders and this Browns quarterback. I mean, we're talking so
much about these guys when I know in a year
for or in eight months from now, it's Arch Manning.
Speaker 7 (09:31):
So I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
This has become like the Big the only storyline of
the summer outside of Aaron Rodgers loves Mike Tomlin. Mike
Tomlin loves that, Yes, the Big bro Mans. Everything is
gonna be great until Aaron Rodgers actually throws the football
for real. But like this story, with all this it's
such an amazing uh attention suck when in the end
it's really gonna be okay, as long as he's okay
with being a Brown, it's arch manning in eight months
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like that. That's how it's gonna go.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
If if he wants to come out of school to remember,
I mean, Haslam has done everything. He said, Hey, Andrew Barry,
this is all his guy, shardor Sanders is here because
of him taking no responsibility. And even with the Deshaun
Watson stuff, that was still a Barry. He's like, no, no, no,
it was all of us. I'm not wearing all of
that contract.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
It's not all on me.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
So a little bit of that in fighting, slap fighting,
and let's face it, it'll be a new UH front
office when this goes bad, as it inevitably will. But
they did get Miles Garrett signed after he said he
wanted to trade and he wanted to take his ball
and go home, so at least they can say they
did that properly. But at this point, you know, you
didn't need to see a lot of reps from Flaccos,
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so he just kind of is floating off in no
man's land. Picket to your two rookies. Yeah, you were
hoping that they they'd battle and that you'd see some
separation and actually go through with meaningful reps. And as
it stands now, it's like you're just hoping to have
a warm body under center. That's where we're at in
this process. I mean, this is a just a very
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disappointed not that the Browns had any expectations for anything
right now.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Four and a half, five wins. It's just more of
a blank show.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
And I mean really, it's just there's no bigger blank
show in the NFL than the Cleveland Browns, no bigger.
But the quarterback you're paying all the money to is
never gonna play for you again. You decide to go
out and bring in make your number one guy. You're
going after.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
The most bridge of bridge guys.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Okay, I get if you're tanking for next season, you're
tanking for the year after because you want a quarterback
you didn't, Okay, but then you overdraft a guy in
the third round in Dylan Gabriel and then you go
get Sha Door Sanders, who you spent four rounds passing on. Oh,
but now he's an assets. He's a quarterback. Either. You
could do that with a defensive back. You can do
it with a defensive end. You can do it with
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a wide receiver, but you don't go, oh, now he's
a value guy at quarterback. Now if he's great, we
don't pay him for the next five years. Like what
world does that make sense? Also, world does it make sense?
Take a quarterback in the third round and they say okay,
like and then take a guy in the fifth round
that was projected to go higher than the guy in
the third round, Like, I'm trying to figure this out.
Like everything with the Browns, and the more you think
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about it, the more do they really have any it?
It's like guys won contests and got to run the Browns.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
Well.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Some of it plays straight out of draft day. Hey
what are you hearing? What do you know? Hey? What
do you know? Sonny?
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Why's he falling? Why's he falling? I don't know, but
you're on the clock. Can make us both look pretty good.
Run all sorts of lines out of that. But you know,
when you get back to the fifth round, he's still
sitting there. You think you could be the smartest guy
in the room, particularly if you think your job's potentially
in peril. It's like, hey, if this breaks right now,
I look like a genius. And even if Haslam and
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I don't get along anymore. Maybe I get a second
bite at the apple somewhere else. But where you sit
now is all reports were just disastrous from anything that
wasn't the glorified hey, let's just throw it up and
let guys make plays kind of scenario. Anything that was
a synchronized, choreographed and orchestrated offensive set went to hell.
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And so now you sit at the precipice of another disaster.
I want to know who in that. Remember when they
unveiled that that giant helmet, Remember that guy fell in
and everybody pointed at it out. Oh, I was the
guy pointing out the fact that it was brought to
you by Dude Wipes. This special shade of brown helmet
that we've never done before has brought to you by
Dude Wipes. It was almost like, I, look, my internship
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is ending by contract ending.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Here's what I'm gonna propose.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
And then it worked, and so this guy got over
because that's exactly how you described how this season is
gonna go a blank show?
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Is I mean, really, it is such I don't understand
it's it's such a blank show here. That's like, now
they're bringing we have to have another quarterback. But two
years ago fantastic plus one.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
But I remember just two years ago was well the
Browns except for the giant question market quarterback, they have
one of the constructed, one of the best rosters in football.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Oh sure, yeah, Life comes at you fast. I'll tell
you things changed change really quickly, Mike. I'm telling you, man,
there's no it's the old Ferris Buelle. Life comes at
you pretty fast. You don't sit top and look around
a while. You could miss it. You can miss it.
You can miss it. Absolutely, that's how it goes. That's
where we're telling you what a blank show man. Really,
we got to go get another quarterback.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
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Speaker 1 (14:23):
It is already been some kind of Friday, and we
still have a lot left to go here in football.
We'll get to Shador Sanders in a second. But sometimes
the you know, the scariest moments in sports bring out
the best in us. And that's clearly a case that
unfortunately we saw and then saw the reaction in tonight's
preseason game between the Lions and the Falcons.
Speaker 7 (14:46):
This game was suspended and.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Ended early in the fourth quarter with the Lions winning
seventeen to ten. After Maurice Norris, the Lions, is injured.
Looked very serious on a tackle he attempts to make.
Norris goes into the tackle. You see his head kind
of snapped back. There's seizure activity in his legs and
right away personnel came out. They took him away in
an ambulance. Prayers up for him. Will have an update
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on him as soon as we do in this game.
And it really was something I mean to see the
Lions and Falcons decide with each other. They held hands
around him as he was being tended to on the field,
and they decided we're not gonna play. And the next
play happened, and the ball was snapped and the clock
ticked and I don't know if there were still some
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unsuredness as to what was going on on the field
it was gonna happen, but both teams decided amongst themselves
that's it. This game is over, and that was the
final snap and they suspended the game with about fourteen
minutes left to go. The Lions and Falcons again deciding
this right after they watched Norris get taken off the
field and again, we'll have an update for you as
soon as we do. He was taken to the hospital,
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but the two teams decided, okay, this game is done,
and out of respect for him. It was a very
much a Tomorrow Hamlin esque situation where we watched it
and said, okay, what's gonna happen. Now, clearly fourteen minutes
left in game one of the preseason, there really is
no need to finish the game, and I'm glad to
see humanity and concern for Norris kind of just take over.
Speaker 7 (16:13):
And that's what we saw, and that's how the game ended.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
You see the snap and players just kind of standing there, going,
we're not going to play.
Speaker 7 (16:19):
So this is kind of the end of.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
The game, and the game ended a great moment of
humanity and together and it's an NFL brotherhood between the
Lions and the Falcons.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
I mean, you talk about the fraternity, right, and all
the guys that we know and we've worked with through
the years, you watch games with them, and when there's
a moment of this nature, it still resonates on that
grand scale, and certainly you know with the type of
adrenaline and the way players have to be right in
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terms of their readiness for that next play, and certainly
regular season, we know there'd be a suspension of play
and eventually they get back into it because of the
stakes in this particular case. Uh, you recognize what this
moment means.
Speaker 8 (17:07):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (17:07):
And against a preseason the fans understood it, right, a
lot of a lot of people emotional, uh shown and
certainly outside the prayer circles and everything that flowed through,
so all thoughts with with Norris, his family, his teammates
and everybody. But yeah, showing the humanity of this moment,
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much bigger stakes, you know, in the injury as it occurred,
takes the the knee and to your point, Jason, Uh,
the immediacy of trainers, uh, quick acting personnel and credit
to you know how quickly everybody mobilized and recognized the
severity of the moment. And then look, the game doesn't
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matter at that point, right, It's all about, you know,
putting all the effort towards Norris and his his health
and getting him the help he needs.
Speaker 6 (18:01):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
And and still I mean you hear it in my
voice as as I'm saying it, because I watched the
replay a couple of times, probably one too many, because
we recognize the fragility of things when we talk about
contact sports at every level, and in the NFL, you
know here it is spotlight today. We've got a lot
of positives to talk about and the love of the
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football being back, but also you know that grim reminder
of what can happen just so quickly and I'll play yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
I mean, it's something you'll see and and he goes
in for a tackle and it's a helmet to the
knee and you see is his head kind of snap
back and and uh, you know, look, it's something, it's
it's part of the game, and it's an it's an
awful part of the game, and it's such an unfortunate
part of the game. And unfortunately we've seen it now
a couple of times over the course of the past
few years, and everybody's got their fingers crossed again. As
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soon as we hear any moments on this, we will
we will let you know. But sometimes we respond to
our most difficult moments by displaying the best of us,
and that clearly was the Lions and the Falcons tonight. Again,
this game suspended with about fourteen minutes to go seventeen
to ten game and they're really It didn't seem to
me like there was any like there was any question
that that was they were going to do. Mike, like
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I said, Okay, they're gonna do this and just line
up and say we're doing this far. They could have
easily said look, we're not doing it and made it
some kind of you know, we're walking off the field
and there's a lot of craziness and bizarreness and what's happening,
or the teams refusing to play. But by getting up
there and saying, okay, this play is gonna run the
last fourteen minutes. Okay, you know you're not gonna blow
the whistle, and this is this is how we're gonna
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do it. And I thought stepping up and showing not
just deciding hey we're walking away, we're done, but to
stand up and say hey, we're doing this moment for you.
This was kind of an extra way to do it,
because they easily could have just said, hey, we're not
gonna play. Okay, that's fine, the coaches talk and where
and we're gonna you go to your sideline, you go
to your sideline. We'll do a quick congratulations and that's
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how it's gonna end. But to say, hey, we're snapping
the football and not playing for you, it's there. It
was their way of doing even a bigger moment for
him on the field, which I thought was, I mean,
what what again? Sometimes these these moments bring out the
best and it's not clear was that was an incredible
decision uh from the from the Lions and Falcons on this.
Speaker 7 (20:15):
I can't say enough about it.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Yeah, the recognition of what what's uh at play here?
Speaker 6 (20:21):
Right?
Speaker 4 (20:21):
The the game gets minimized and we we see this
uh far too often, uh happily not too too too much,
uh you know, in in the grand scale of how
many games are played, but it's you know, still the
severity of it, you know, wreck that recognition, uh and
that moment and to your point, just going running out
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the clock, all right, games gone to zeros, let's go
uh and let's put our thoughts where they need to be.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Uh So again, we'll continue to update this story throughout
the night. Again, best thoughts to Norris's family lines as well.
Speaker 7 (20:57):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
But look, our business is sports, and we go to
the biggest story coming into tonight on the field when
we talk about a big level of interest. We saw
the debut of shador Sanders tonight for the Cleveland Browns,
and look, I'll be honest, game had ended thirty to ten.
Speaker 7 (21:16):
There's two things for this game, right right, There's two things.
There's There's the first.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
One is what we think about Shadora Sanders, and then
the second part is reality. And you know, I kept
thinking of this tonight. I knew, Okay, Sanders is gonna
come out, and he's gonna and he's gonna play. He's
gonna go ball to the wall, right like he know
this is his chance to win the job. He wants
to show everybody I'm the guy that you thought I
was in college. I'm not a fifth round pick. I
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need to seize this job. I'm getting a chance here.
And I kept thinking of that. That Herb Brooks moment
from Miracle when he starts his speech to the guys
and he says, and Kurt ros I just hear in
Kurt Russell's voice now when he says, great moments are
born from great opportunity, and that's you have here tonight, gentlemen,
That's what you've earned tonight, right, And I thought, that's
exactly the deal for Shador Sanders. All this craziness, all
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the Browns was setting him up to fail. Now Browns
will put him out there to play. Like there he's
the only guy healthy enough to play at least been
there for a minute and a half.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
I mean, what the hell that more analysis is there than.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
That he's one of your four guys, right, Okay, so
this is how it's gonna go. And he goes out
and in the beginning he did some good things, and
he did some rookie things. Okay, you had a great
scramble for a first down, you know, a couple of
bad decisions, you know, trying to run around like he
would have done in college when clearly, okay, that doesn't
happen in the NFL.
Speaker 7 (22:33):
Is that the right of passage?
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Do you have to check that one on your bingo card? Now,
if you're a quarterback with any ability to move laterally,
that you have to do that play where like it's
a video game. So Chris Berman would be able to
go whoop whoop nine times before the play ends.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
He said, Hey, Russell Wilson, watch this. I've seen you
do this for a long time, you're ready. So he
did some things, He did some good things, and he
did some rookie things. And then the second quarter he
played extremely well. Right, two touchdowns, including this one, the
very first touchdown of Shador Sanders NFL career. Take a listen,
seven year veteran Trayyon Williams in the backfield played fake
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to him.
Speaker 8 (23:13):
Sanders looking throwing down d Dayden Davis, Chador Sanders, Welcome
to the NFL.
Speaker 7 (23:26):
Brown's Rose Chris Rose on Brown's TV with the call.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
There, yes, that Chris Rose with the call the first
of two touchdowns by Shador Sanders for the night, fourteen
out of twenty three, one hundred and thirty eight yards
and two touchdowns. Right now, here's here's the thing, because
that people go, I mean, there's nothing crazier than what
people were saying even after Shad Door Sanders when he
handed the ball off the first time. Oh, that was
a great handoff by Jendorad. What a great handoff by
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Schador Sanders. He absolutely played well enough to keep the gig.
Like what do we say the other night? If he
plays well enough, let him run with it. Right, you
don't need to say he's the starter and there's a Again,
there's a bigger conversation. But for right now, the results
what we saw in this game, there is no reason
to say, hey, okay, Joe Flacco, you go back to
get all the reps. No, let Shador run with a
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little bit. You know, I always say the same thing,
and you saw it. They said it on the broadcast
A lot to night. What do I say? I look
for a quarterbacks the first on the most important thing,
that the game is not too big for them, and
that it's not too much. It's not too okay. The
game is going really fast right now. The old Bill
Parcell's line, I want to see if rookie's eyes get
real milky in the lights and they it's a twister
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and yem aniem and it wasn't. And he made some
big throws and he got more comfortable as the game
went on. There is no reason to not allow him
to continue to run with the ones and get the
lion's share of the reps and continue on here and
act as the de facto number one quarterback. Look, Joe
Flacco's been around a lot. They interviewed him during the game.
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He talked about his comfort level with the offense and
how well Shador Sanders is playing, and and that's awesome.
You don't need to see Joe Flacco, right you You
tell Joe Flacco. Look, Joe, here's a deal. You know,
we have these rookie quarterbacks, singer, you know where you're at.
And he understands, we're gonna let your door go here
a little bit and run with this job. And then
we see where we're at. We have we have a
long preseason, got another couple of weeks to go, We
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got a month before the beginning of the season starts.
We're gonna give him a little bit more of an opportunity.
And Joe Flacco's got to understand that. And if he doesn't,
it doesn't matter. I mean, you see, Shador Sanders absolutely
was the guy we thought he would be when we
thought he was the second overall picking the draft, going
behind cam Ward.
Speaker 7 (25:33):
There is no reason to not say, shaudor you were great.
You're gonna continue to run with the ones.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
You are now running as the number one quarterback with
the Cleveland Browns for this summer. And I don't I
don't think there's any way you can come out of
this and not do that.
Speaker 7 (25:45):
For him. I don't see how you don't.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Well in the end, the other guys are aren't healthy
enough to run anyway, So by default I think he's
gonna get some more run here.
Speaker 6 (25:56):
You know.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Look, you play against who's on the field with you,
whether they're the ones for the Panthers or twos or
threes or whatever it is. Panthers aren't great anyway, So
a grain of salt with something. I'm not trying to
pour water on the notion of what he accomplished. Those
throws were great. I want to give a lot of
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nod on that first touchdown pass to the concentration of
the receiver as the ball whizz between a couple of
defenders to not have that either bounce off his face
mask or sail through his hands. Good job by him.
The second great throw that he made down the sideline
on the fingertips, Hey, you got to give a guy
a chance to make a play where the defenders aren't
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and he did that. What it means long term, Look,
the hyperbole is going to be there. I'm certainly not
pouring a giant bucket of water on it. Because it's
a great first step. Right, you have the growth moments
of the scramble plays and the chaos there, and then
you settle in and take advantage of what's afforded to
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you by the defense. How that gets read by the
professionals in the room and when they go back to
evaluate it in the post, that's on them, you know.
For us being loud mouths on the radio, I'm like, hey,
I want to see more, all right, add more to it?
Speaker 6 (27:14):
Right.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
It's like, you know, we discussed and had a little
disagreement with the Anthony Richardson stuff yesterday. In the end,
you got to pile it on and see how much
he can take, you know, in terms of acumen and
what he still needs to learn and develop, and try
to put him in an opportunity to see that growth.
And for now, Joe Flacco, we know what he is.
(27:35):
He's gonna come in, he's gonna wing the ball around,
and there's gonna be some great moments. There's gonna be
some terrible moments. Oh wait, isn't that what you expect
from a rookie quarterback.
Speaker 7 (27:44):
That you drafted it in the fifth round?
Speaker 4 (27:46):
In the end, your your your aspirations other than Miles
Garrett Stone in the company line, because he's you know,
got a massive ass check sticking out of his back pocket. Yeah,
super Bowl Baby, It's like everybody else really recognize it.
It's a train wreck. So if you can go and
get him some meaningful reps and get a true evaluation,
(28:07):
I don't see why you wouldn't once you get to
the regular season, I guess in September you still have
to sell hope, which is why you see Flacco or
Picket at that point. But even still, we got a
lot of football that needs to be played here, Jason.
I'm sure several teams are going to have a quarterback
that comes up a little less than one hundred, so
(28:30):
all of a sudden, one of those guys could be
a viable trade option.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
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It is the aforementioned Jason call What's Happened to j col.
Speaker 6 (28:57):
So? Would tard story be in the Hall of Fame
of Kids Movies?
Speaker 8 (29:01):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Sure, absolutely, Toy Story Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
I mean even the third one is one of the
finest sequels ever made.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Yeah, first ballad, First Ballad, Hall of Fame or Toy Story.
Speaker 6 (29:12):
Okay, I just wanted to know that.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Yeah, Little murmait like, if you.
Speaker 6 (29:16):
How about how about Woody Johnson?
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Oh, Woody Johnson in uh in the in the in
the Disney Pixar Toy Story Hall of Fame. Sure, he's
like a cartoon character, so that works. Oh hey, remind
me off the hour, I want to text you something
about whatoy Johnson? Trust me, it's fine.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
H I would say if you.
Speaker 6 (29:36):
Had heard some very I heard some very funny stories
about Woody Johnson on the Jets today is I can't
Unfortunately I can't repeat, So I'm just teasing you on that.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Wow, you can't just tell one story.
Speaker 6 (29:52):
It's a little too fresh. I gotta I gotta get
it confirmed. Oh okay, I mean, I know, I know,
I know it's true, but I don't want I don't
but I don't really want to for somebody under their
bus when they're just getting started on their jobs. So
that's probably probably probably why was it what he was?
Speaker 3 (30:13):
What he Johnson?
Speaker 1 (30:14):
One that hit Mike Rabel and breaking up the fight
at training camp today.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
There's there's no question about it. Was what.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
You know, I love if you said, Hey, what coach
would go in to a scuffle in training camp and
come out bloody and have his players say, Wow, that
was awesome. Mike Rabel's at the top of the list.
Speaker 6 (30:39):
M Dan Campbell, Jim Harbaugh.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Oh, Harbor.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
I don't know how I think he'd instigated at this point.
I don't think.
Speaker 6 (30:48):
Not John, not John, but Jim would. Jim definitely would
do that. Jim was the guy who is like on
Christmas Eve when you're at Stanford, was had them in
full pad, were out hitting and the fight started, and
he was like overjoyed that they were having a fight
on Christmas Eve. It was on. Yes, he would, he
(31:10):
would jump into a fight about it.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Merry Christmas, doll.
Speaker 6 (31:19):
I love the tots of my team. They will, They'll
go down a chimney for me. I know it.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Yeah, there you go, the fighting Patriots.
Speaker 6 (31:30):
Man.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
They got they got it going on in training camp today.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
Yeah, I count preferred Balchick's way of handling fights. He
just kicked guys out out of practice and say, yeah,
we don't do that. This is game. In games, if
you get in a fight, you got a personal faalue,
you get kicked out of the game. We don't do that.
So you get kicked out of practice and you have to,
you know, pay the consequences for getting in a fight
(31:56):
and getting kicked out of practice, which is probably fine
to go with it. So I kind of like that
way of doing it. But I do have an appreciation
for Rabel and what a tough guy is. So I
have some Rabel stories with Belichick, but I absolutely can't
share on this. The FCC would not allow that.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Okay, escalated, They're they're fun.
Speaker 6 (32:20):
They're fun, they're funny stories. They're they're you know, Rabel saying, coach,
what were you saying about that? You know that kind
of line, you know, like you get under Belichick's in
a little bit stuff there.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
And I do think we're saying that the Belichicks throwing
people out of practice and take care of them. That's
a pre twenty twenty Belichick. I don't think that's a
post twenty twenty Belichick. I don't think so.
Speaker 6 (32:40):
No, It's no, It's always been a Belichick thing. Belichick. No,
that's that's that's consistent. I would I would argue on
that one. He he bullieves in guys keeping their cool
in the middle of the games.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
Okay, all right, well chick.
Speaker 6 (32:56):
On a serious note, you know, I'm like, say, you know,
the owner of the Cowboys who can't seem to keep
this cool about the fact that he blew it with
and he's trying to explain away this negotiation.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
So he looked me in the eye and we shook hands.
That's a contract, just so you know. And when you
look look me in the eye, and it's as good
as sign.
Speaker 6 (33:18):
When I'm negotiating with you, which is illegal and against
the rules. But hey, I'm saying anything right now because
you know what, they just had some guy who was
the screen actors deal. He didn't know anything about football.
He doesn't know the rules. He doesn't know that I
can't talk to a player without talking to his agent.
That's against the collected bargain in agreement. He didn't know
(33:42):
any of that kind of stuff. So I'll just talk
about it openly and nobody will do anything to me.
Nobody won't take away nothing from my Cowboys. It's great.
That's unbelievable what they're getting away with, Like you're not
like it's in the CBA. You're not supposed to do this,
(34:02):
and he's talking about it openly. You're not supposed to
negotiate with a player if he has representation. It is
absolutely one hundred percent against the rules.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
But alow to look somebody in the eye and shake
their hand.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
I could look him in the eye and shake their hand,
and that, you know, in the old days, that's a contract.
Speaker 6 (34:20):
But before I looked him in the eye, I said
I was good with forty million rather than the forty
eight that you really deserve, because I had to talk
about that before I could look him in the eye
and assume that I had a deal. You know, we
did have to do some talking before that. There was
there was a little bit of that, and he was
(34:40):
good with me, you know, selling them short on the deal.
He was fine with that. He was absolutely fine. He
didn't say nothing about his representation. You know, I didn't
even know we had an agent, even though it was
on his last contract. I don't know, I don't I
don't know these things.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
See plausible deniability as established by Jason Coley.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
So I gotta have so you gotta have card stuff.
Speaker 6 (35:06):
Well, it's just it's just like the criminals just getting
away with everything right in front of our face. Admits
the crime, like, oh, yeah, I took all that money,
But you're not really going to do anything to me,
are you. I guess not. That's what happens.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
Well, I mean I read the news. There's a lot
of that going on.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
He's Jason Cole with us saying we're gonna leave that
right where it is and leave.
Speaker 6 (35:30):
That dare I'm not gonna go anywhere, but it's true.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Yeah, we're gonna leave that right there.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
Let's continue in the NFL another we'll talk about head
coaches being tough guys and whatever they say.
Speaker 8 (35:42):
Go.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Let's go up to Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Aaron Rodgers saying I'm ready to play in the first
preseason game. If Mike Tomlin says so not, Hey, I'm
a forty one year old quarterback. I might want some
extra reps with the guys, but I'm going to leave
it up to coach. But I'm ready and I'm game.
It's all his decision.
Speaker 6 (35:57):
Yeah, and you're a forty one year old quarterback. Just
go take a seat over there. Thank you.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Okay, but I wanted to play. I was good with it.
Speaker 6 (36:06):
That's great, that's great. Go sit out. Yeah, don't even
give him shoulder pads before the game. The helmet, leave
it back behind. Okay, it doesn't don't even take the
helmet off the truck. Don't. Don't do it.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
What about smelling salts? Can I take the smelling salts
off the truck?
Speaker 6 (36:24):
Or no?
Speaker 3 (36:25):
If you bring your.
Speaker 6 (36:25):
Own smelling sauce, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
You bring b Yo s S. Bring your own smelling salts.
Speaker 6 (36:31):
That is what that's what this league is about. B
Yo s S. That is absolutely what this league is about.
You have to bring your own. If you're going to
mess up your mind and hide your concussion syndrome symptoms,
that's up to you to do that on your own.
We will not supply it, but we don't say anything
about you not doing it.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Yes, plausible deniability, the word exact.
Speaker 6 (36:55):
That's what this whole that's what the entire NFL season
is about.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
Gonna be videotape in every one of those equipment. Guys, see, hey,
he brought it to us. We bagged it and tagged it, and.
Speaker 6 (37:08):
It is We didn't touch any of those footballs. I
swear we didn't.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
NFL insider Jason call our guest, the Jason Smithster with
Mike Harmon, live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. All right,
so with all this stuff going on, is a big
mystery over how healthy Matthew Stafford is. He's not today,
it was, Hey, it's a week to week injury and
the Rams expect him back for week one.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
That's a big thing.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Jay called here, Hey, is a week to week injury. Okay,
in the early part of August. But to hear we
expect him back for week one. That's a little bit
of a wait what you expect him back for week one?
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Hang on a.
Speaker 6 (37:43):
Second, Yeah, I was. I mean, when you look at
quarterbacks like this, how many downs do they get during
the preseason anyways?
Speaker 4 (37:54):
Zero?
Speaker 6 (37:55):
Right, so he's getting zero and we think he has
a little bit of an injury or oh yeah, he's
completely healthy and he's getting zero reps anyway, So what's
the I mean, what what's sort of the difference? I mean,
he's an old guy. If he's got a back injury,
you know, just leave it alone, let him, let him
get as healthy as possible, because they have They have
(38:19):
to have him if they're going to be competitive. I mean,
he's the only thing that that you know, saved them
for basically the second half of last season, right, I
mean he was. I mean, obviously Nick who is a
good player, they had a lot of mileage out of
a lot of other guys, but Stafford was Stafford. If
not for Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen putting on some
(38:41):
just unbelievable show, Stafford played nv E caliber football. You know,
in any other season, he would have been up there
in the race. He just he was overwhelmed by those
two guys and you know, to a certain extent, Derrick Henry.
But I mean, he was amazing, and he's the reason
they almost beat Philadelphia in the playoffs him by himself,
because he knew how to handle what they were going
(39:03):
to throw at him. So I don't care if he
plays a single down at this point in time, given
that he's been with the team for a while. Now.
Am I worried about the intry? Sure, because he's old.
He's just old, and that's what happens. So that's why,
just like with Aaron Rodgers, go sit over there, Just
(39:23):
go sit over there. We don't. We don't need to
see you until week one. Go sit over there, that's
what you gotta do.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
I'm ready for Jimmy Garoppolo time.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
Hey, let's go back to Cleveland where they now have
at least Jimmy.
Speaker 6 (39:35):
How many players will give me garoppolo forget from the
huddle to the Linus Krimmage. I told you that story, right.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, that was a good one.
Speaker 6 (39:46):
Yeah, that's my favorite one. How many times he's such
a bream dead eaver. I mean, a really nice guy,
you know, sweetheart of a guy and good looking, like
I mean, you've got to give it to that guy
like that. We should we should all have all have
like one day when we look like Jimmy Garoppolo. Just
one day. That's that's all you need. But man, that's
(40:07):
an amazing thing. So but yeah, he's not not thebody's
in the door.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Okay, neither are the Browns.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
They've got five quarterbacks working on fine, fantastic five.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
Now five guys are going.
Speaker 6 (40:19):
To start now they have Yeah, and we have we
updated the betting order of when they will play. Have
we done that? I mean, because what this is like,
it's not tri fact, it's not. You haven't boxed it.
What happens when you get the five? It's not five factor? Is?
What is it?
Speaker 3 (40:36):
It's a it's a it's a four pole fecta. Now
I don't know it's a it's a quintup fo be careful.
Speaker 4 (40:42):
Well it's a super fact a c stuff it's five.
I think it just gets still being a pick five. Oh, no,
pick five. I think somebody owns that though you can't
use that. Yeah, somebody we got we got to cry
your own term. But should or sayers is going to
get the start? Jacoble, what are you looking for?
Speaker 6 (40:59):
Survival? Well? No, I want to see if the guy,
you know, I want to see the guy in the lights,
and I want to see if he processes fast enough
and take some shots and uh, I just want to
see the normal kind of rookie stuff out of him.
And I hope that people are not too breathless in
their evaluation of a young quarterback. I want you people,
(41:23):
But I don't feel bad for schadur. You know, he
got what he bought and I don't know that he's
all that good either, right, Like when I watch him,
when I watched him a Colorado, I was like, hey,
he's a good college quarterback. I don't know that he's
particularly special. Did he get punished a little bit by
the NFL? Probably, But at the end of the day,
(41:46):
like we need good quarterbacks. So I hope he's good.
I hope he's really good. And Cleveland needs a good
quarterback because God knows you. Like, if you put those
five guys together, I don't know that you have more
than Jimmy Garoppolo at this point time, really.
Speaker 3 (42:02):
The voltronedom and still came up with the Jimmy g.
Speaker 6 (42:05):
Cop Right, Like, if you took those five guys together,
you still don't get one decent quarterback. Like you just don't.
It's just not possible. No, it is you.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
You know, you put them together, you get one super
quarterback out of all the body parts of them, you
get one super quarterback.
Speaker 6 (42:22):
How tell me, how tell me which part becomes the
super quarter Okay, so you have Joe Flacco's arm, which
is not ain't good anymore, but you know he's had
his moment head of hair, and.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
You got your Door Sanders toughness. Okay, you have Kenny
Pickett's giant hands and.
Speaker 6 (42:39):
Uh okay, yeah, we're we're not doing the inverted version of.
Speaker 4 (42:46):
The Volton and Dylan Gabriel is short, Yes, yeah, get you.
Speaker 6 (42:52):
Have Dylan Gabriel's incredible height. Yes, I look again, you
put it all together and don't have a decent quarterback.
That's you know, that's what their room is, and that's
why you came up with a really great bets mess
Like what order these guys are going to play this year?
Because they're all gonna play because they all suck and
(43:13):
all terrible.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
And now we got five. Now, we got five.
Speaker 6 (43:17):
Now now and now we have hunt like, oh, man, like,
how many guys do they get to keep? Like, if
you have that group, how many guys do you keep
on the practice squad? Do you keep? Like two on
the regular season roster? And see the thinking about it
is you can cut any three you want and you
can still get them back on the practice one of them.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
Five on the active roster for every game, five active
for every single order, for every game. You can go
short on special teams. Man, you have five active. Told
me last week they're going to the super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (43:51):
You're not even going short of specialty, Like, you don't
even have a nickelback. You can't cover a five wide format.
That's what. Oh my god, that's fantastic.
Speaker 7 (44:03):
I love that he's on Twitter.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
Jackson Cole sixty two, jac Cole sixty two, Barna what
he's round up it Inkey Jordan loves that easy.
Speaker 3 (44:14):
I'll tetch it hit my buddy.
Speaker 6 (44:15):
Take it easy, man, I'll later on be good
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days over the course of the argo. You know what,
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to the Guardian Tonight' say you know what, I need
a break?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I need.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Though that number has risen substantially the last couple of years.
I think your expectations, I think it goes in line
with your age, because like you see the shell shedding
of your mortal coil some fifty years in the distance,
and that shrinking a little bit, which means the expectations
my team needs to win now. So when you see
baby going to field the ground ball and envisioning not
(01:29):
the first basement club and where he's gonna throw it,
but how he'll look at a Yankees uniform making.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
That terrible throw, because he would fit right in. I
saw you die a.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Little bit inside, a little little Jason Smith took one
for the team, right.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
This was it was hard, very this was difficult. This
was difficult, fifty difficult.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Especially while bab Schwarber keeps rounding the bases like a superhuman,
like he's one of the fantastic for well, you know,
like he's doing all that stuff, then you're gonna try
failing to keep pace. And so when you see a
team score two runs without a hit, including an air
mail throw to second base, the second basements, looking at
(02:12):
him going really really.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Come back from down five nothing, tie the game, bases
loaded in the bottom of the eighth the only get
would know out you get one run, bases loaded, one out,
and the ninth thing you get zero runs. Like I mean,
like I need a Like, okay, I need a break
from you put the ball in play strikes out.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
I need a break. I'll never come on.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Man. The one of the worst day that my wife
and I ever had. Okay, the worst day we had.
I'm going back like this is like twenty five years.
The worst day we had was when uh and I
was working at Fox is when I was a produced.
This goes back like before, like this is like nineteen
ninety eight, nineteen ninety seven, and we each took you know,
(02:52):
with the dude, the cars we had. We'd been together
for about four or five years at that point, and
the and we each took each other's car to work
like it didn't matter, like we're taking the car this day,
like it made difference, right, So I forgot about this.
We were coming off a rain storm here in La
you know, back when it used to rain in La.
And I went to work in the morning, and I
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took whatever car we had. I forget and I get
to work, and I get in and I start going
and I see I have a voicemail at work.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
I get a voicemail and it's my.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Wife, and she goes, so you take the other car
when I go to take to take the GJGEO storm.
When I go to take the storm, only to realize
that you left the window open, the sun roof all
weekend with the rain. I am soaked when I get
to you know what, let's just not talk to each
other for the next few hours. Let's let's have a
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little bit of a break. And it is kind of fun.
And I'm listening on the fun I'm going, oh no,
and I realized that. Okay, she knows I didn't do
it on purpose. She knows I didn't do it with
any sort of malicious intent or it was just I
happened to take the other car because I just did.
I don't know why I just did. And I forgot
that oh yeah, I left the sun roof up and
(04:04):
oh yeah rain, And so she she had to drive
to work sitting on that soaking wet seat. Well, oh boy,
oh boy, she says, let's take it. Let's let's let's
take a break. Let's not talk for the next few
I'm like, okay, because we would always talk like two
three times a day when we're not worth all this, I'm.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Like, do I call her?
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Or do I do I respect the fact that she
really doesn't want to talk to me. I'm like, you
know what, I'm I'm gonna respect that, and I'm gonna
figure out some great place for us to go to
dinner tonight. I'm gonna figure out something great. I have
like six or seven hours to figure something out great.
And the good thing was, after she had the day,
she said, hey, I'm sorry, it's a little too harsh.
(04:42):
I'm sorry. I didn't I know you didn't do it.
I said, no, no, I look, I'm sorry because I
forgot that I did that. I would have never done that,
and everything to have to be okay. And then ever
since then I realized, okay, you know, sometimes taking a
taking a break, like a little bit, you know, a
day or whatever it is, sometimes it turns out well,
you can reset and standing all right, something happened and
we can go forward. And that's always felt like, you
(05:03):
know what, there's two three days here. I need a break.
I need a break from the I need a break.
I'm sorry, it's not me, it's you, but I need
a break. Man, I need a break from this craptasticness
that's been going on the last couple of months.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Gotta make you feel better by talking about Jets practice.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
No, this is this is what gets me better is
that you know, last week, right to get to the
big developing story in the NFL. Right, you get to
the big developing story in the end, we'll talk about
justin fields. Uh, you get to the big developing story
in the NFL last week, you know, we had the
big hot take that and I firmly believe this that
the Browns are gonna start all four quarterbacks at some point. Now, well,
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of course.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
That's what I'm doing. I'm setting this whole thing up
so I can do the Fantastic four. But no, no,
I gotta jump in and say the tyl Atley gout sign.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
I had the whole thing set up for us to
do Fantastic four.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
Fans, Franklin, you No, I gotta jump in and I
gotta ruin the joke. Do you want to go to
I Open Mike Night and start shouting out all the
jokes When I said, hey, if I something about Mike Harmon,
two words about Mike Harmon.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
He is cheap and ugly, like what he is? What
do you want me to do?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Wrong?
Speaker 1 (06:11):
And I and the whole thing set up no matter,
sun row fann and like the storm I came in
doesn't matter. You wrote, had the great things set up?
Now now you ruined it. You sing the song you
ruined it? No, now it's over because that's about the
fantastic thought.
Speaker 6 (06:26):
I don't have it.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
I mean, is there a Fantastic five song yet you
ruined it?
Speaker 6 (06:30):
No?
Speaker 3 (06:30):
You right that show?
Speaker 1 (06:33):
I don't think fantastic We're gonna do the sequel yet
it's not gonna do. I don't think fantastic for it's
getting a sequel. What did it fall off like nine
million percent from week one? Like ninety Yeah, I don't
think that's happening. I mean word of mouth. I mean
Galactus was there. He looked cool on the big screen
so on an Imax, Hey you look big?
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Uh he sucked.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
So yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
So we talked about this last week that the well
that the Fantastic four, every single quarterback of the Browns
was gonna start at least one game this year. But
you kind of know that now because Mike Carbon has
had to jump everybody and say, but.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
They signed Tyler Hutley.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Yes, so now they signed Franklin and now they have
Tyler Hutley because everybody is hurt. Shadora Sanders was hurt
and now he's back at practice, Dylan Gabriel is dinged up,
Kenny Pickett still has a practice. And so now we
could potentially get five starting quarterbacks from the Browns this year.
If we go into the season where a couple of
guys are hurt and it takes them a while to come.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Back, five guys you can get fun. We go from
fantastic four to five guys. That's where we're going.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Over priced fast casual meal. By the way, I think
you spoiled a bunch of stuffy by bringing Franklin in,
because I don't think a lot of people know who
to help Franklin. I know, I think is the dude
from Peanuts.
Speaker 7 (07:49):
Peanut.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
No, you saw the movie and and and you're not
gonna wait, I'm gonna go see it in week three.
At this point, with the way it dropped off, you
either saw it week one and and if you really
wanted to see it, you saw it week two. You're
not saying, well, week three, I'm gonna go back now
you saw it, if you wanted to see it.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
I debated seeing it again, and then I went and
saw the Naked Gun instead. Much much better experience. Good crowd, uh,
highly entertaining. But but yeah, I mean, you've got Shador
Sanders was listed with the the injury right to his
shoulder fatigue and all. Kurt Banker, former NFL quarterback, he's
got his coach book that you can buy and all it. Uh,
you know, here's through the eyes of a quarterback. He goes,
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that's usually right right about the the injury you you
announced right before you're gonna trade a guy.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Yeah, and then they signed it, you know, I mean really,
I mean, look, Tyler Huntley, who was, you know, potentially
at one point was the best backup quarterback in the NFL.
And yeah, no, he wasn't gonna, you know, obviously take
the job in Baltimore. But oh, Tyler Huntley's so good,
he's such a great value to have, he's gonna go
someplace else and great. No, no, no, Now you're the
fifth guy that you have now at practice for the Browns, right,
(08:55):
and clearly part of it is circumstanced because they have
joint practice coming up tomorrow and the next I believe
with the Panthers, and then their first game is this weekend.
So okay, you need a third quarterback because you got
guys dinged up. But for the whole summer it's been
not enough, not enough reps. Now everybody's got the reps.
Now you got the reps, right, flack O can get
the reps. Shador Sanders can get thereight, you guys got
got the guys the reps. Now every guy, everybody could
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have the reps. But now Gabriel and and pick it.
And what I mean, really, we're talking so much about
Sanders and this Browns quarterback. I mean, we're talking so
much about these guys when I know in a year
for or in eight months from now, it's Arch Manning.
Speaker 7 (09:31):
So I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
This has become like the Big the only storyline of
the summer outside of Aaron Rodgers loves Mike Tomlin. Mike
Tomlin loves that, Yes, the Big bro Mans. Everything is
gonna be great until Aaron Rodgers actually throws the football
for real. But like this story, with all this it's
such an amazing uh attention suck when in the end
it's really gonna be okay, as long as he's okay
with being a Brown, it's arch manning in eight months
(09:55):
like that. That's how it's gonna go.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
If if he wants to come out of school to remember,
I mean, Haslam has done everything. He said, Hey, Andrew Barry,
this is all his guy, shardor Sanders is here because
of him taking no responsibility. And even with the Deshaun
Watson stuff, that was still a Barry. He's like, no, no, no,
it was all of us. I'm not wearing all of
that contract.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
It's not all on me.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
So a little bit of that in fighting, slap fighting,
and let's face it, it'll be a new UH front
office when this goes bad, as it inevitably will. But
they did get Miles Garrett signed after he said he
wanted to trade and he wanted to take his ball
and go home, so at least they can say they
did that properly. But at this point, you know, you
didn't need to see a lot of reps from Flaccos,
(10:37):
so he just kind of is floating off in no
man's land. Picket to your two rookies. Yeah, you were
hoping that they they'd battle and that you'd see some
separation and actually go through with meaningful reps. And as
it stands now, it's like you're just hoping to have
a warm body under center. That's where we're at in
this process. I mean, this is a just a very
(10:59):
disappointed not that the Browns had any expectations for anything
right now.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Four and a half, five wins. It's just more of
a blank show.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
And I mean really, it's just there's no bigger blank
show in the NFL than the Cleveland Browns, no bigger.
But the quarterback you're paying all the money to is
never gonna play for you again. You decide to go
out and bring in make your number one guy. You're
going after.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
The most bridge of bridge guys.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Okay, I get if you're tanking for next season, you're
tanking for the year after because you want a quarterback
you didn't, Okay, but then you overdraft a guy in
the third round in Dylan Gabriel and then you go
get Sha Door Sanders, who you spent four rounds passing on. Oh,
but now he's an assets. He's a quarterback. Either. You
could do that with a defensive back. You can do
it with a defensive end. You can do it with
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a wide receiver, but you don't go, oh, now he's
a value guy at quarterback. Now if he's great, we
don't pay him for the next five years. Like what
world does that make sense? Also, world does it make sense?
Take a quarterback in the third round and they say okay,
like and then take a guy in the fifth round
that was projected to go higher than the guy in
the third round, Like, I'm trying to figure this out.
Like everything with the Browns, and the more you think
(12:04):
about it, the more do they really have any it?
It's like guys won contests and got to run the Browns.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
Well.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Some of it plays straight out of draft day. Hey
what are you hearing? What do you know? Hey? What
do you know? Sonny?
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Why's he falling? Why's he falling? I don't know, but
you're on the clock. Can make us both look pretty good.
Run all sorts of lines out of that. But you know,
when you get back to the fifth round, he's still
sitting there. You think you could be the smartest guy
in the room, particularly if you think your job's potentially
in peril. It's like, hey, if this breaks right now,
I look like a genius. And even if Haslam and
(12:38):
I don't get along anymore. Maybe I get a second
bite at the apple somewhere else. But where you sit
now is all reports were just disastrous from anything that
wasn't the glorified hey, let's just throw it up and
let guys make plays kind of scenario. Anything that was
a synchronized, choreographed and orchestrated offensive set went to hell.
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And so now you sit at the precipice of another disaster.
I want to know who in that. Remember when they
unveiled that that giant helmet, Remember that guy fell in
and everybody pointed at it out. Oh, I was the
guy pointing out the fact that it was brought to
you by Dude Wipes. This special shade of brown helmet
that we've never done before has brought to you by
Dude Wipes. It was almost like, I, look, my internship
(13:23):
is ending by contract ending.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Here's what I'm gonna propose.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
And then it worked, and so this guy got over
because that's exactly how you described how this season is
gonna go a blank show?
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Is I mean, really, it is such I don't understand
it's it's such a blank show here. That's like, now
they're bringing we have to have another quarterback. But two
years ago fantastic plus one.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
But I remember just two years ago was well the
Browns except for the giant question market quarterback, they have
one of the constructed, one of the best rosters in football.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Oh sure, yeah, Life comes at you fast. I'll tell
you things changed change really quickly, Mike. I'm telling you, man,
there's no it's the old Ferris Buelle. Life comes at
you pretty fast. You don't sit top and look around
a while. You could miss it. You can miss it.
You can miss it. Absolutely, that's how it goes. That's
where we're telling you what a blank show man. Really,
we got to go get another quarterback.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
It is already been some kind of Friday, and we
still have a lot left to go here in football.
We'll get to Shador Sanders in a second. But sometimes
the you know, the scariest moments in sports bring out
the best in us. And that's clearly a case that
unfortunately we saw and then saw the reaction in tonight's
preseason game between the Lions and the Falcons.
Speaker 7 (14:46):
This game was suspended and.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Ended early in the fourth quarter with the Lions winning
seventeen to ten. After Maurice Norris, the Lions, is injured.
Looked very serious on a tackle he attempts to make.
Norris goes into the tackle. You see his head kind
of snapped back. There's seizure activity in his legs and
right away personnel came out. They took him away in
an ambulance. Prayers up for him. Will have an update
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on him as soon as we do in this game.
And it really was something I mean to see the
Lions and Falcons decide with each other. They held hands
around him as he was being tended to on the field,
and they decided we're not gonna play. And the next
play happened, and the ball was snapped and the clock
ticked and I don't know if there were still some
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unsuredness as to what was going on on the field
it was gonna happen, but both teams decided amongst themselves
that's it. This game is over, and that was the
final snap and they suspended the game with about fourteen
minutes left to go. The Lions and Falcons again deciding
this right after they watched Norris get taken off the
field and again, we'll have an update for you as
soon as we do. He was taken to the hospital,
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but the two teams decided, okay, this game is done,
and out of respect for him. It was a very
much a Tomorrow Hamlin esque situation where we watched it
and said, okay, what's gonna happen. Now, clearly fourteen minutes
left in game one of the preseason, there really is
no need to finish the game, and I'm glad to
see humanity and concern for Norris kind of just take over.
Speaker 7 (16:13):
And that's what we saw, and that's how the game ended.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
You see the snap and players just kind of standing there, going,
we're not going to play.
Speaker 7 (16:19):
So this is kind of the end of.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
The game, and the game ended a great moment of
humanity and together and it's an NFL brotherhood between the
Lions and the Falcons.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
I mean, you talk about the fraternity, right, and all
the guys that we know and we've worked with through
the years, you watch games with them, and when there's
a moment of this nature, it still resonates on that
grand scale, and certainly you know with the type of
adrenaline and the way players have to be right in
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terms of their readiness for that next play, and certainly
regular season, we know there'd be a suspension of play
and eventually they get back into it because of the
stakes in this particular case. Uh, you recognize what this
moment means.
Speaker 8 (17:07):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (17:07):
And against a preseason the fans understood it, right, a
lot of a lot of people emotional, uh shown and
certainly outside the prayer circles and everything that flowed through,
so all thoughts with with Norris, his family, his teammates
and everybody. But yeah, showing the humanity of this moment,
(17:27):
much bigger stakes, you know, in the injury as it occurred,
takes the the knee and to your point, Jason, Uh,
the immediacy of trainers, uh, quick acting personnel and credit
to you know how quickly everybody mobilized and recognized the
severity of the moment. And then look, the game doesn't
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matter at that point, right, It's all about, you know,
putting all the effort towards Norris and his his health
and getting him the help he needs.
Speaker 6 (18:01):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
And and still I mean you hear it in my
voice as as I'm saying it, because I watched the
replay a couple of times, probably one too many, because
we recognize the fragility of things when we talk about
contact sports at every level, and in the NFL, you
know here it is spotlight today. We've got a lot
of positives to talk about and the love of the
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football being back, but also you know that grim reminder
of what can happen just so quickly and I'll play yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
I mean, it's something you'll see and and he goes
in for a tackle and it's a helmet to the
knee and you see is his head kind of snap
back and and uh, you know, look, it's something, it's
it's part of the game, and it's an it's an
awful part of the game, and it's such an unfortunate
part of the game. And unfortunately we've seen it now
a couple of times over the course of the past
few years, and everybody's got their fingers crossed again. As
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soon as we hear any moments on this, we will
we will let you know. But sometimes we respond to
our most difficult moments by displaying the best of us,
and that clearly was the Lions and the Falcons tonight. Again,
this game suspended with about fourteen minutes to go seventeen
to ten game and they're really It didn't seem to
me like there was any like there was any question
that that was they were going to do. Mike, like
(19:14):
I said, Okay, they're gonna do this and just line
up and say we're doing this far. They could have
easily said look, we're not doing it and made it
some kind of you know, we're walking off the field
and there's a lot of craziness and bizarreness and what's happening,
or the teams refusing to play. But by getting up
there and saying, okay, this play is gonna run the
last fourteen minutes. Okay, you know you're not gonna blow
the whistle, and this is this is how we're gonna
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do it. And I thought stepping up and showing not
just deciding hey we're walking away, we're done, but to
stand up and say hey, we're doing this moment for you.
This was kind of an extra way to do it,
because they easily could have just said, hey, we're not
gonna play. Okay, that's fine, the coaches talk and where
and we're gonna you go to your sideline, you go
to your sideline. We'll do a quick congratulations and that's
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how it's gonna end. But to say, hey, we're snapping
the football and not playing for you, it's there. It
was their way of doing even a bigger moment for
him on the field, which I thought was, I mean,
what what again? Sometimes these these moments bring out the
best and it's not clear was that was an incredible
decision uh from the from the Lions and Falcons on this.
Speaker 7 (20:15):
I can't say enough about it.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Yeah, the recognition of what what's uh at play here?
Speaker 6 (20:21):
Right?
Speaker 4 (20:21):
The the game gets minimized and we we see this
uh far too often, uh happily not too too too much,
uh you know, in in the grand scale of how
many games are played, but it's you know, still the
severity of it, you know, wreck that recognition, uh and
that moment and to your point, just going running out
(20:44):
the clock, all right, games gone to zeros, let's go
uh and let's put our thoughts where they need to be.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Uh So again, we'll continue to update this story throughout
the night. Again, best thoughts to Norris's family lines as well.
Speaker 7 (20:57):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
But look, our business is sports, and we go to
the biggest story coming into tonight on the field when
we talk about a big level of interest. We saw
the debut of shador Sanders tonight for the Cleveland Browns,
and look, I'll be honest, game had ended thirty to ten.
Speaker 7 (21:16):
There's two things for this game, right right, There's two things.
There's There's the first.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
One is what we think about Shadora Sanders, and then
the second part is reality. And you know, I kept
thinking of this tonight. I knew, Okay, Sanders is gonna
come out, and he's gonna and he's gonna play. He's
gonna go ball to the wall, right like he know
this is his chance to win the job. He wants
to show everybody I'm the guy that you thought I
was in college. I'm not a fifth round pick. I
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need to seize this job. I'm getting a chance here.
And I kept thinking of that. That Herb Brooks moment
from Miracle when he starts his speech to the guys
and he says, and Kurt ros I just hear in
Kurt Russell's voice now when he says, great moments are
born from great opportunity, and that's you have here tonight, gentlemen,
That's what you've earned tonight, right, And I thought, that's
exactly the deal for Shador Sanders. All this craziness, all
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the Browns was setting him up to fail. Now Browns
will put him out there to play. Like there he's
the only guy healthy enough to play at least been
there for a minute and a half.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
I mean, what the hell that more analysis is there than.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
That he's one of your four guys, right, Okay, so
this is how it's gonna go. And he goes out
and in the beginning he did some good things, and
he did some rookie things. Okay, you had a great
scramble for a first down, you know, a couple of
bad decisions, you know, trying to run around like he
would have done in college when clearly, okay, that doesn't
happen in the NFL.
Speaker 7 (22:33):
Is that the right of passage?
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Do you have to check that one on your bingo card? Now,
if you're a quarterback with any ability to move laterally,
that you have to do that play where like it's
a video game. So Chris Berman would be able to
go whoop whoop nine times before the play ends.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
He said, Hey, Russell Wilson, watch this. I've seen you
do this for a long time, you're ready. So he
did some things, He did some good things, and he
did some rookie things. And then the second quarter he
played extremely well. Right, two touchdowns, including this one, the
very first touchdown of Shador Sanders NFL career. Take a listen,
seven year veteran Trayyon Williams in the backfield played fake
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to him.
Speaker 8 (23:13):
Sanders looking throwing down d Dayden Davis, Chador Sanders, Welcome
to the NFL.
Speaker 7 (23:26):
Brown's Rose Chris Rose on Brown's TV with the call.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
There, yes, that Chris Rose with the call the first
of two touchdowns by Shador Sanders for the night, fourteen
out of twenty three, one hundred and thirty eight yards
and two touchdowns. Right now, here's here's the thing, because
that people go, I mean, there's nothing crazier than what
people were saying even after Shad Door Sanders when he
handed the ball off the first time. Oh, that was
a great handoff by Jendorad. What a great handoff by
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Schador Sanders. He absolutely played well enough to keep the gig.
Like what do we say the other night? If he
plays well enough, let him run with it. Right, you
don't need to say he's the starter and there's a Again,
there's a bigger conversation. But for right now, the results
what we saw in this game, there is no reason
to say, hey, okay, Joe Flacco, you go back to
get all the reps. No, let Shador run with a
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little bit. You know, I always say the same thing,
and you saw it. They said it on the broadcast
A lot to night. What do I say? I look
for a quarterbacks the first on the most important thing,
that the game is not too big for them, and
that it's not too much. It's not too okay. The
game is going really fast right now. The old Bill
Parcell's line, I want to see if rookie's eyes get
real milky in the lights and they it's a twister
(24:35):
and yem aniem and it wasn't. And he made some
big throws and he got more comfortable as the game
went on. There is no reason to not allow him
to continue to run with the ones and get the
lion's share of the reps and continue on here and
act as the de facto number one quarterback. Look, Joe
Flacco's been around a lot. They interviewed him during the game.
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He talked about his comfort level with the offense and
how well Shador Sanders is playing, and and that's awesome.
You don't need to see Joe Flacco, right you You
tell Joe Flacco. Look, Joe, here's a deal. You know,
we have these rookie quarterbacks, singer, you know where you're at.
And he understands, we're gonna let your door go here
a little bit and run with this job. And then
we see where we're at. We have we have a
long preseason, got another couple of weeks to go, We
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got a month before the beginning of the season starts.
We're gonna give him a little bit more of an opportunity.
And Joe Flacco's got to understand that. And if he doesn't,
it doesn't matter. I mean, you see, Shador Sanders absolutely
was the guy we thought he would be when we
thought he was the second overall picking the draft, going
behind cam Ward.
Speaker 7 (25:33):
There is no reason to not say, shaudor you were great.
You're gonna continue to run with the ones.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
You are now running as the number one quarterback with
the Cleveland Browns for this summer. And I don't I
don't think there's any way you can come out of
this and not do that.
Speaker 7 (25:45):
For him. I don't see how you don't.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Well in the end, the other guys are aren't healthy
enough to run anyway, So by default I think he's
gonna get some more run here.
Speaker 6 (25:56):
You know.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Look, you play against who's on the field with you,
whether they're the ones for the Panthers or twos or
threes or whatever it is. Panthers aren't great anyway, So
a grain of salt with something. I'm not trying to
pour water on the notion of what he accomplished. Those
throws were great. I want to give a lot of
(26:16):
nod on that first touchdown pass to the concentration of
the receiver as the ball whizz between a couple of
defenders to not have that either bounce off his face
mask or sail through his hands. Good job by him.
The second great throw that he made down the sideline
on the fingertips, Hey, you got to give a guy
a chance to make a play where the defenders aren't
(26:37):
and he did that. What it means long term, Look,
the hyperbole is going to be there. I'm certainly not
pouring a giant bucket of water on it. Because it's
a great first step. Right, you have the growth moments
of the scramble plays and the chaos there, and then
you settle in and take advantage of what's afforded to
(26:59):
you by the defense. How that gets read by the
professionals in the room and when they go back to
evaluate it in the post, that's on them, you know.
For us being loud mouths on the radio, I'm like, hey,
I want to see more, all right, add more to it?
Speaker 6 (27:14):
Right.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
It's like, you know, we discussed and had a little
disagreement with the Anthony Richardson stuff yesterday. In the end,
you got to pile it on and see how much
he can take, you know, in terms of acumen and
what he still needs to learn and develop, and try
to put him in an opportunity to see that growth.
And for now, Joe Flacco, we know what he is.
(27:35):
He's gonna come in, he's gonna wing the ball around,
and there's gonna be some great moments. There's gonna be
some terrible moments. Oh wait, isn't that what you expect
from a rookie quarterback.
Speaker 7 (27:44):
That you drafted it in the fifth round?
Speaker 4 (27:46):
In the end, your your your aspirations other than Miles
Garrett Stone in the company line, because he's you know,
got a massive ass check sticking out of his back pocket. Yeah,
super Bowl Baby, It's like everybody else really recognize it.
It's a train wreck. So if you can go and
get him some meaningful reps and get a true evaluation,
(28:07):
I don't see why you wouldn't once you get to
the regular season, I guess in September you still have
to sell hope, which is why you see Flacco or
Picket at that point. But even still, we got a
lot of football that needs to be played here, Jason.
I'm sure several teams are going to have a quarterback
that comes up a little less than one hundred, so
(28:30):
all of a sudden, one of those guys could be
a viable trade option.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
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Speaker 1 (28:44):
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It is the aforementioned Jason call What's Happened to j col.
Speaker 6 (28:57):
So? Would tard story be in the Hall of Fame
of Kids Movies?
Speaker 8 (29:01):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Sure, absolutely, Toy Story Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
I mean even the third one is one of the
finest sequels ever made.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Yeah, first ballad, First Ballad, Hall of Fame or Toy Story.
Speaker 6 (29:12):
Okay, I just wanted to know that.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Yeah, Little murmait like, if you.
Speaker 6 (29:16):
How about how about Woody Johnson?
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Oh, Woody Johnson in uh in the in the in
the Disney Pixar Toy Story Hall of Fame. Sure, he's
like a cartoon character, so that works. Oh hey, remind
me off the hour, I want to text you something
about whatoy Johnson? Trust me, it's fine.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
H I would say if you.
Speaker 6 (29:36):
Had heard some very I heard some very funny stories
about Woody Johnson on the Jets today is I can't
Unfortunately I can't repeat, So I'm just teasing you on that.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Wow, you can't just tell one story.
Speaker 6 (29:52):
It's a little too fresh. I gotta I gotta get
it confirmed. Oh okay, I mean, I know, I know,
I know it's true, but I don't want I don't
but I don't really want to for somebody under their
bus when they're just getting started on their jobs. So
that's probably probably probably why was it what he was?
Speaker 3 (30:13):
What he Johnson?
Speaker 1 (30:14):
One that hit Mike Rabel and breaking up the fight
at training camp today.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
There's there's no question about it. Was what.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
You know, I love if you said, Hey, what coach
would go in to a scuffle in training camp and
come out bloody and have his players say, Wow, that
was awesome. Mike Rabel's at the top of the list.
Speaker 6 (30:39):
M Dan Campbell, Jim Harbaugh.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Oh, Harbor.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
I don't know how I think he'd instigated at this point.
I don't think.
Speaker 6 (30:48):
Not John, not John, but Jim would. Jim definitely would
do that. Jim was the guy who is like on
Christmas Eve when you're at Stanford, was had them in
full pad, were out hitting and the fight started, and
he was like overjoyed that they were having a fight
on Christmas Eve. It was on. Yes, he would, he
(31:10):
would jump into a fight about it.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Merry Christmas, doll.
Speaker 6 (31:19):
I love the tots of my team. They will, They'll
go down a chimney for me. I know it.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Yeah, there you go, the fighting Patriots.
Speaker 6 (31:30):
Man.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
They got they got it going on in training camp today.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
Yeah, I count preferred Balchick's way of handling fights. He
just kicked guys out out of practice and say, yeah,
we don't do that. This is game. In games, if
you get in a fight, you got a personal faalue,
you get kicked out of the game. We don't do that.
So you get kicked out of practice and you have to,
you know, pay the consequences for getting in a fight
(31:56):
and getting kicked out of practice, which is probably fine
to go with it. So I kind of like that
way of doing it. But I do have an appreciation
for Rabel and what a tough guy is. So I
have some Rabel stories with Belichick, but I absolutely can't
share on this. The FCC would not allow that.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Okay, escalated, They're they're fun.
Speaker 6 (32:20):
They're fun, they're funny stories. They're they're you know, Rabel saying, coach,
what were you saying about that? You know that kind
of line, you know, like you get under Belichick's in
a little bit stuff there.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
And I do think we're saying that the Belichicks throwing
people out of practice and take care of them. That's
a pre twenty twenty Belichick. I don't think that's a
post twenty twenty Belichick. I don't think so.
Speaker 6 (32:40):
No, It's no, It's always been a Belichick thing. Belichick. No,
that's that's that's consistent. I would I would argue on
that one. He he bullieves in guys keeping their cool
in the middle of the games.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
Okay, all right, well chick.
Speaker 6 (32:56):
On a serious note, you know, I'm like, say, you know,
the owner of the Cowboys who can't seem to keep
this cool about the fact that he blew it with
and he's trying to explain away this negotiation.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
So he looked me in the eye and we shook hands.
That's a contract, just so you know. And when you
look look me in the eye, and it's as good
as sign.
Speaker 6 (33:18):
When I'm negotiating with you, which is illegal and against
the rules. But hey, I'm saying anything right now because
you know what, they just had some guy who was
the screen actors deal. He didn't know anything about football.
He doesn't know the rules. He doesn't know that I
can't talk to a player without talking to his agent.
That's against the collected bargain in agreement. He didn't know
(33:42):
any of that kind of stuff. So I'll just talk
about it openly and nobody will do anything to me.
Nobody won't take away nothing from my Cowboys. It's great.
That's unbelievable what they're getting away with, Like you're not
like it's in the CBA. You're not supposed to do this,
(34:02):
and he's talking about it openly. You're not supposed to
negotiate with a player if he has representation. It is
absolutely one hundred percent against the rules.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
But alow to look somebody in the eye and shake
their hand.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
I could look him in the eye and shake their hand,
and that, you know, in the old days, that's a contract.
Speaker 6 (34:20):
But before I looked him in the eye, I said
I was good with forty million rather than the forty
eight that you really deserve, because I had to talk
about that before I could look him in the eye
and assume that I had a deal. You know, we
did have to do some talking before that. There was
there was a little bit of that, and he was
(34:40):
good with me, you know, selling them short on the deal.
He was fine with that. He was absolutely fine. He
didn't say nothing about his representation. You know, I didn't
even know we had an agent, even though it was
on his last contract. I don't know, I don't I
don't know these things.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
See plausible deniability as established by Jason Coley.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
So I gotta have so you gotta have card stuff.
Speaker 6 (35:06):
Well, it's just it's just like the criminals just getting
away with everything right in front of our face. Admits
the crime, like, oh, yeah, I took all that money,
But you're not really going to do anything to me,
are you. I guess not. That's what happens.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
Well, I mean I read the news. There's a lot
of that going on.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
He's Jason Cole with us saying we're gonna leave that
right where it is and leave.
Speaker 6 (35:30):
That dare I'm not gonna go anywhere, but it's true.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Yeah, we're gonna leave that right there.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
Let's continue in the NFL another we'll talk about head
coaches being tough guys and whatever they say.
Speaker 8 (35:42):
Go.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Let's go up to Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Aaron Rodgers saying I'm ready to play in the first
preseason game. If Mike Tomlin says so not, Hey, I'm
a forty one year old quarterback. I might want some
extra reps with the guys, but I'm going to leave
it up to coach. But I'm ready and I'm game.
It's all his decision.
Speaker 6 (35:57):
Yeah, and you're a forty one year old quarterback. Just
go take a seat over there. Thank you.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Okay, but I wanted to play. I was good with it.
Speaker 6 (36:06):
That's great, that's great. Go sit out. Yeah, don't even
give him shoulder pads before the game. The helmet, leave
it back behind. Okay, it doesn't don't even take the
helmet off the truck. Don't. Don't do it.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
What about smelling salts? Can I take the smelling salts
off the truck?
Speaker 6 (36:24):
Or no?
Speaker 3 (36:25):
If you bring your.
Speaker 6 (36:25):
Own smelling sauce, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
You bring b Yo s S. Bring your own smelling salts.
Speaker 6 (36:31):
That is what that's what this league is about. B
Yo s S. That is absolutely what this league is about.
You have to bring your own. If you're going to
mess up your mind and hide your concussion syndrome symptoms,
that's up to you to do that on your own.
We will not supply it, but we don't say anything
about you not doing it.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Yes, plausible deniability, the word exact.
Speaker 6 (36:55):
That's what this whole that's what the entire NFL season
is about.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
Gonna be videotape in every one of those equipment. Guys, see, hey,
he brought it to us. We bagged it and tagged it, and.
Speaker 6 (37:08):
It is We didn't touch any of those footballs. I
swear we didn't.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
NFL insider Jason call our guest, the Jason Smithster with
Mike Harmon, live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. All right,
so with all this stuff going on, is a big
mystery over how healthy Matthew Stafford is. He's not today,
it was, Hey, it's a week to week injury and
the Rams expect him back for week one.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
That's a big thing.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Jay called here, Hey, is a week to week injury. Okay,
in the early part of August. But to hear we
expect him back for week one. That's a little bit
of a wait what you expect him back for week one?
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Hang on a.
Speaker 6 (37:43):
Second, Yeah, I was. I mean, when you look at
quarterbacks like this, how many downs do they get during
the preseason anyways?
Speaker 4 (37:54):
Zero?
Speaker 6 (37:55):
Right, so he's getting zero and we think he has
a little bit of an injury or oh yeah, he's
completely healthy and he's getting zero reps anyway, So what's
the I mean, what what's sort of the difference? I mean,
he's an old guy. If he's got a back injury,
you know, just leave it alone, let him, let him
get as healthy as possible, because they have They have
(38:19):
to have him if they're going to be competitive. I mean,
he's the only thing that that you know, saved them
for basically the second half of last season, right, I
mean he was. I mean, obviously Nick who is a
good player, they had a lot of mileage out of
a lot of other guys, but Stafford was Stafford. If
not for Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen putting on some
(38:41):
just unbelievable show, Stafford played nv E caliber football. You know,
in any other season, he would have been up there
in the race. He just he was overwhelmed by those
two guys and you know, to a certain extent, Derrick Henry.
But I mean, he was amazing, and he's the reason
they almost beat Philadelphia in the playoffs him by himself,
because he knew how to handle what they were going
(39:03):
to throw at him. So I don't care if he
plays a single down at this point in time, given
that he's been with the team for a while. Now.
Am I worried about the intry? Sure, because he's old.
He's just old, and that's what happens. So that's why,
just like with Aaron Rodgers, go sit over there, Just
(39:23):
go sit over there. We don't. We don't need to
see you until week one. Go sit over there, that's
what you gotta do.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
I'm ready for Jimmy Garoppolo time.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
Hey, let's go back to Cleveland where they now have
at least Jimmy.
Speaker 6 (39:35):
How many players will give me garoppolo forget from the
huddle to the Linus Krimmage. I told you that story, right.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, that was a good one.
Speaker 6 (39:46):
Yeah, that's my favorite one. How many times he's such
a bream dead eaver. I mean, a really nice guy,
you know, sweetheart of a guy and good looking, like
I mean, you've got to give it to that guy
like that. We should we should all have all have
like one day when we look like Jimmy Garoppolo. Just
one day. That's that's all you need. But man, that's
(40:07):
an amazing thing. So but yeah, he's not not thebody's
in the door.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Okay, neither are the Browns.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
They've got five quarterbacks working on fine, fantastic five.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
Now five guys are going.
Speaker 6 (40:19):
To start now they have Yeah, and we have we
updated the betting order of when they will play. Have
we done that? I mean, because what this is like,
it's not tri fact, it's not. You haven't boxed it.
What happens when you get the five? It's not five factor? Is?
What is it?
Speaker 3 (40:36):
It's a it's a it's a four pole fecta. Now
I don't know it's a it's a quintup fo be careful.
Speaker 4 (40:42):
Well it's a super fact a c stuff it's five.
I think it just gets still being a pick five. Oh, no,
pick five. I think somebody owns that though you can't
use that. Yeah, somebody we got we got to cry
your own term. But should or sayers is going to
get the start? Jacoble, what are you looking for?
Speaker 6 (40:59):
Survival? Well? No, I want to see if the guy,
you know, I want to see the guy in the lights,
and I want to see if he processes fast enough
and take some shots and uh, I just want to
see the normal kind of rookie stuff out of him.
And I hope that people are not too breathless in
their evaluation of a young quarterback. I want you people,
(41:23):
But I don't feel bad for schadur. You know, he
got what he bought and I don't know that he's
all that good either, right, Like when I watch him,
when I watched him a Colorado, I was like, hey,
he's a good college quarterback. I don't know that he's
particularly special. Did he get punished a little bit by
the NFL? Probably, But at the end of the day,
(41:46):
like we need good quarterbacks. So I hope he's good.
I hope he's really good. And Cleveland needs a good
quarterback because God knows you. Like, if you put those
five guys together, I don't know that you have more
than Jimmy Garoppolo at this point time, really.
Speaker 3 (42:02):
The voltronedom and still came up with the Jimmy g.
Speaker 6 (42:05):
Cop Right, Like, if you took those five guys together,
you still don't get one decent quarterback. Like you just don't.
It's just not possible. No, it is you.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
You know, you put them together, you get one super
quarterback out of all the body parts of them, you
get one super quarterback.
Speaker 6 (42:22):
How tell me, how tell me which part becomes the
super quarter Okay, so you have Joe Flacco's arm, which
is not ain't good anymore, but you know he's had
his moment head of hair, and.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
You got your Door Sanders toughness. Okay, you have Kenny
Pickett's giant hands and.
Speaker 6 (42:39):
Uh okay, yeah, we're we're not doing the inverted version of.
Speaker 4 (42:46):
The Volton and Dylan Gabriel is short, Yes, yeah, get you.
Speaker 6 (42:52):
Have Dylan Gabriel's incredible height. Yes, I look again, you
put it all together and don't have a decent quarterback.
That's you know, that's what their room is, and that's
why you came up with a really great bets mess
Like what order these guys are going to play this year?
Because they're all gonna play because they all suck and
(43:13):
all terrible.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
And now we got five. Now, we got five.
Speaker 6 (43:17):
Now now and now we have hunt like, oh, man, like,
how many guys do they get to keep? Like, if
you have that group, how many guys do you keep
on the practice squad? Do you keep? Like two on
the regular season roster? And see the thinking about it
is you can cut any three you want and you
can still get them back on the practice one of them.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
Five on the active roster for every game, five active
for every single order, for every game. You can go
short on special teams. Man, you have five active. Told
me last week they're going to the super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (43:51):
You're not even going short of specialty, Like, you don't
even have a nickelback. You can't cover a five wide format.
That's what. Oh my god, that's fantastic.
Speaker 7 (44:03):
I love that he's on Twitter.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
Jackson Cole sixty two, jac Cole sixty two, Barna what
he's round up it Inkey Jordan loves that easy.
Speaker 3 (44:14):
I'll tetch it hit my buddy.
Speaker 6 (44:15):
Take it easy, man, I'll later on be good
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