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March 22, 2025 • 54 mins

This week, the madness is in full effect and the guys are ready to give you their brackets in full extent! We remember the greatness of George Forman, and the great Ric Bucher stops by to join the show!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
Well, it's day after what he got? Our final fours?
What are the five twelve upsets?

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Who do we have? Who's gonna win it all? Saint
John's what do we think? What do you think? Saint John?
Excuse me?

Speaker 4 (00:37):
What?

Speaker 1 (00:37):
However, just to not to find a reason to start
with the Knicks, okay, not to find her and well
they are thumping the heat right now.

Speaker 5 (00:45):
No, you start with the Nicks, whether there's a reason
or no.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
No, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
This was a close game and the Knicks decided Okay,
even without Jalen Brunson, we are better and they're beating
the Heat right now. The couple that's left to go
one twelve to eighty nine. However, crazy moment in this
game earlier where Tracy Morgan UH TV and film star
had to be wheeled out of the game in a wheelchair.

Speaker 6 (01:08):
That's how bad the Knicks are.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
It was, Oh, come on, stop, the dudes had health
problems for like a decade. Man, he's had something. He's
had some real problems. Man, he's he's and he he was,
he was.

Speaker 5 (01:17):
He's often in the front row of Madison Square guard.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
He threw up on the floor and he was escorted
out in a wheelchair with a bloody nose, and you
could see it looks like the Knicks. One of the
Knicks towel boys is telling Scott Foster, who was officiating
this game, is probably why why the Knicks are up
by twenty. He's telling Scott Foster, we don't have a mop.
Like I'm trying to read it. It looks like he's saying,
we don't have a mop, Like, how are we going
to clean this?

Speaker 3 (01:39):
This this up?

Speaker 1 (01:40):
We don't have the court see oh my god, yeah,
like what are we gonna do? Like, who's gonna go
do that?

Speaker 5 (01:45):
No, he got wheeled out like it was Paul Pierce.
Oh so did he come back?

Speaker 3 (01:49):
And then I don't know. I think we're still we're
still waiting for an update on Tracy.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Okay, So it's not like Paul Pierce. No, it's it's not,
it's not this was an actual illness. Uh well, Paul
Pierce had an illness too. It was just a stomach illness.
It was just you know, I you know, ooh boy,
like mistiming my temporary mistiming my pregame coffee kind of thing.
Is what happened? Oh hey, you know, Nope, gotta go,
gotta go, Nope, gotta go. Uh So, I hope he's okay.
I mean, everybody's wondering what's going on right now. I

(02:14):
mean when he left, I mean it was just I'm like, okay,
that's kind of weird. And you hear the guy's talking
about it. It looks like it's trade thirty Rocks. Tracy Morgan
is throwing up on that. You're thinking, is this this
sounds like a sketch from thirty Rock When it happened, Oh, Trace,
remember when you got sick of the Knicks game like that?
It's something with him and Alec Baldwin.

Speaker 5 (02:31):
In case, it's the kind of thing Tracy Morgan himself
would comment, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
Yeah, exactly. So, I mean I hope he's okay, hope
we find out. I mean, Frostburg is going to hell
already for trying to make that joke like that. Mean,
it's gonna happen for so But this NIXT game is
going to end with the Knicks victory and.

Speaker 5 (02:46):
The Miami Heat wondering how many in a road do
we have to lose before we get Cooper flag?

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (02:51):
You keep just keep it too late, Just keep going,
just keep going, just keep just keep going. That's all
They're dribbling out the clock in New York. So this
will be eight straight losses for my I mean, unfortunately
only twenty nine and thirty nine now see.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
And that's the thing is that the NBA, like fifty
five has always been my magic number of the right
amount of games to play in a season because for
a couple of reasons, fifty five is great. And I've
said this for years, because fifty five is where you
can start, have the regular have the normal season, and
you can start on Christmas Day. Right, you can play

(03:24):
fifty five games, start the season on Christmas Day, and
boy that's a huge deal. Right, start Christmas Day and
go all the way through.

Speaker 5 (03:30):
Yeah, back when the NBA owned Christmas Day.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yeah, exactly, Well, okay, and if the NFL is playing,
you can start Christmas Eve, Okay, you can do that,
or the day you can play on Boxing Day, all right,
you can buy because that's a twenty six right Boxing Day,
we could play that.

Speaker 5 (03:42):
Yes, it's a boxing up stuff from Christmas.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Or if Honkah is after Christmas, you can start on
day one of Honkkah.

Speaker 5 (03:47):
Take a holiday, we'll start.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
But the second biggest thing is that fifty You get
to fifty five, and that's when you know where we're
past the trade deadline. And this is where teams are
either in full tank load or they understand that we're
things just aren't going to get better. Nothing really changes
with the standings after fifty five games. In fact, it's
teams like the Heat. Okay, yeah, we traded away Jimmy Butler.

(04:11):
We're done, We're done, and we're just gonna go. We're
just gonna lose games.

Speaker 5 (04:15):
A losing streak that literally they've never had and this
coach has been there forever.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Yeah, yeah, we're doing it because we know we're done.
We know the season's done. We know we're not going anywhere.
We know we're starting over. So yeah, all these games
that happen when when you're a when you're a team,
a contending team with hope, and you're playing a team
that's looking the next year, and half the league is
doing that the last you know, twenty five twenty seven games.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
Of the year. This is kind of nice that you get.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
You get these long ass losing streaks or teams winning
fifteen in a row again, because you're playing teams that
have absolutely given up. The Cavaliers aren't any better now
than they were early in the year, but two fifteen
game winning streaks, while the second fifteen game winning street
you're playing teams that are just, yeah, we're finished. We're
not even gonna We're gonna we'll put four guys on
the floor. Maybe we'll do the whole genck. We're gonna

(04:59):
honor Gene Hackman by putting four on the floor and
finishing a game that way.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
My team's on the way, guy.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
Yeah, that's how you get So it's good, but that
you could always have done it. You could always get
down fifty five games. That's a perfect number for the NBA.

Speaker 5 (05:09):
Honestly, when you at the start of this paragraph, set,
I think fifty five is in magic. I thought you
were talking about like Wizard's losses or the Hornets and
that's how you know that's a bad team. I really
thought that's where you were going. Actually, those two teams
are going to be topping fifty five losses this year?

Speaker 3 (05:25):
Is there a uh?

Speaker 6 (05:26):
Is there?

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Is there some sort of magic number for Cooper flag
like that I don't want to go, but is there
a number where we actually clinch getting him?

Speaker 3 (05:33):
Like? Is that that?

Speaker 1 (05:34):
Because I want to call and tell and tell Duke
not to play him in the tournament, like he's our guy.
Now you're done. You had him for a year, everything
is great, it's down to our guy.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
Now.

Speaker 5 (05:42):
Four teams will have the chance at the worst record.
Four teams are currently still under twenty wins here and
we're only a month left in the regular season. So
I mentioned two of them in the East and Utah
which lost again last night, and New Orleans which is
about to lose again, and they in the West. So
it's those four if you if you can call it battling,

(06:04):
it's those for battling it out. And I think instead
of looking at how many losses. At this point, we
really say, how few wins is it going to take
to get the top pick in the draft in June,
because some of these teams are sitting on fifteen eighteen
right now? Twenty one wins? In other words, say three
four more victories max in the next three four weeks.

(06:27):
Will that do it?

Speaker 1 (06:29):
Listen, let me know when we're getting dangerously close to
that number. Okay, just let just let me know know
we're getting there.

Speaker 5 (06:34):
We'll sit, everybody will take the fine, We'll play less
than eight players suited up. Who cares.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
Cuban's done that before, so yeah, why not? Right four?

Speaker 5 (06:43):
So about the Cuban national team, Mark Cuban, I've done
that before.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
So again, good thoughts to Tracy Morgan because normally, if
you hear, hey, somebody throws up court side during a
game on Saint Patrick's Day, you think, oh, I know
exactly what happened there, so hopefully you know, you know
everything is well.

Speaker 5 (06:59):
Throwing up courts I had a knixt game used to
be commonplace. Now this is an actual good team.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Welling on saying my dad always says Saint Patrick's Day.
You went on Saint Patrick's date? Dad, No, whit's that's
amateur hour. Saint Patrick's Day and New Year's Eve says
amateur hour. I don't go out those days. I don't
want to be in the doing, to be on the road.
I don't want to be outnywhere I stay home. It's amateur hour.
Those I'm like, oh, not a bad bit of advice.
I started thinking back to my old Saint Patrick's days
and I'm like, yeah, okay, I can kind of kind
of go although now for the last and this is

(07:26):
this is a big day. Actually, I didn't know if
I was going to talk about this or not, but
this is my wife and I's thirty year anniversary of
our first date. Our first date was March seventeenth, nineteen
ninety five, renovation thirty years today.

Speaker 6 (07:39):
How many hats did you give her?

Speaker 3 (07:40):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (07:41):
So many hats, so many hats. A Florida had a
Bronco Remember, she told me I really liked the Broncos logo.
I bought her like two Broncos hats, Like, yeah, here,
I brought two Broncos hats for you.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
Oh yeah yeah? And it worked, Yeah, oh yeah, it worked.
It worked.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Thirty years day, we went to Poncho's in in Southington, Connecticut,
and we had we had dinner and went to them
And did you go to the movies after? I think
we went to see Legends of the Fall, If I'm
not mistake, that's a good day with Legends of the Fall.
Uh and Brad Pitt, Craig Scheffer, Julia Ormond, Anthony Hopkins.

Speaker 6 (08:14):
Definitely the dad.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
Yes, yeah, And I walked away going, wow, So.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
She she had sex with like all three guys in
that movie, Like she hooked up with everybody in that movie.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
That was your conclusion.

Speaker 5 (08:23):
Okay, it's this gorgeous fill in the wilds of Montana
and that's your conclusion like.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
A soap opera, you know, absolutely, it is, like that's
what it was. Like, I think she hooked up with
everybody in that movie. I mean, it's not what the
movie was. And that move was it was, you know,
it was.

Speaker 5 (08:38):
A I'm not gonna mention World War One because this
is the this is your show of records for spoiler
alerts and I don't want to contribute that.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
So what do you got for us? But you got
something on Tracy Morgan.

Speaker 6 (08:50):
Yeah, he's actually addressing the media.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Now.

Speaker 6 (08:52):
We should probably go love to this.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
Oh yeah, let's go, let's hear it. Go ahead, come on.
I really thought you would have something from thirty participating
in this. Sally and the Knicks played, well, you went
to see the.

Speaker 6 (09:10):
Knicks play You have killed the man?

Speaker 7 (09:12):
He stops to Frosburg. What what are you doing?

Speaker 3 (09:15):
What do you do?

Speaker 6 (09:16):
Am I doing it?

Speaker 1 (09:17):
This is there could be something that just kill Carl. Yeah,
well that actually did happen. Yeah, yeah, and Austin. Austin's
Fernie Jenkins did complete the catch. He did complete They
have taken out one of the greatest comedians.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
Of all time. I I all best thoughts to Tracy
Morgan three. I really thought we're getting something.

Speaker 5 (09:34):
It's all of those things happening at the same time
with an ill person in public. Don't you expect like
Dustin Hoffman to come swooping in on the military helicopter
and clear you out the town?

Speaker 3 (09:45):
Oh that's outbreak right?

Speaker 5 (09:47):
That was outbro Oh yeah, yeah, okay, okay, ebrews or.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that was where the uh that
was back when the big run of movies and the
the Disaster the World Disaster movies, and that was Army
get in.

Speaker 5 (10:00):
Came on cable again, you know, like five years ago
where hey, there's an actual close up here in the
movie of people catching droplets in the dark movie theater
and everybody's leaving sick.

Speaker 6 (10:12):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (10:13):
We thought at the time, that'll never happen. What don't
we it's a movie. It's Hollywood.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
No, no, no, you know you know what should That
would have been great if they actually did a movie
like you know when they sometimes I'll have the d
box chairs where you sit and it like rumbles and
you can you can get oh yeah, a lot of
the special theater seats a movie like this, like where
there's a big contagion out like when someone that was
another movie, when someone sneezes on screen to get it,
then you get that like that is your case.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
No, that actually happened.

Speaker 5 (10:40):
Universal in the Shrek ride where the seats you know,
rumble and jumble when they're going through both and then
when someone sneezes.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
Yes, there's a myst that comes to the scenes and
like it's someone like when a zombie bite somebody else.
You can feel like this like little pin prick on your.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
Oh what just happened there? Oh my god, I got
to get to get it. To get it.

Speaker 8 (10:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (10:56):
I make people in there, that's right. It's one step
above smell a vision.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yeah, make people think, oh, I'm actually I'm actually going
through it right now.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
Okay, that's great. I got out and I don't know
what I need.

Speaker 5 (11:05):
As long as you're only going through it for two
hours and you can leave healthy.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
Yeah, yeah, sure, sure, oh yeah, yeah, I'm walking out
here at the end. Right, I'm not paid for this.

Speaker 6 (11:12):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
Matt Damon's Matt Damon's the only one walking out of
this movie?

Speaker 5 (11:16):
Is this another spoiler alert?

Speaker 8 (11:18):
No?

Speaker 3 (11:18):
Oh, come on, we's been out a long time now.

Speaker 5 (11:20):
Well, you could say that about every movie. I'm not
asking you to give away the ending of Psycho either.
Not everybody has seen every every movie.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Okay, okay, contagent if you if you, if you ever
wanted to see a movie where a lot of a
listers just fall by the wayside, like that's contained.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
Again, well that's that happen.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
But it's a movie about a big global pandemic and
a lot of I mean, it's like a I mean.

Speaker 5 (11:40):
Doesn't mean any of the stars immediately necessarily, you.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
Know, you got he's got to be some kind of accountability.
You know, it's got something. I mean, I gotta say,
like in the beginner.

Speaker 5 (11:49):
Maybe Jimmy Kimmel was executive producer, and so Matt David.
But where's the scene when I can kill off Kimmel's character.
Where's that scene? I'm gonna call He's not in the movie. No,
we're putting him in just so we can do that. Yeah,
but we have Gwyneth Paltrow. No, no, no, no, we
have Kate Winsley. No, no, no, where's Kimmel. Kim I'm
gonna kill Kimmel in every scene. It's like killing Kenny

(12:10):
in South Park. We're gonna kill him in every He's
gonna be a different guy in every single scene.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
That's how it's gonna go. Uh so, oh, well, fro
we got more from Tracy Moore? Waits talking again, It's
got more from Tracy Morgan. Go ahead, exit, how about
a fresco?

Speaker 5 (12:29):
You know, it's dinner time. Somewhere in the world.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
It is it is, and uh hopefully not not for
you with this.

Speaker 5 (12:35):
See I was gonna tell you coming up shortly, it's
dinner time for the Cubs and Dodgers as they get ready.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
I was at Yeah, I was actually gonna tell a
story of time about what one time when I had
to as a as a sophomore, sophomore sophomore, Yes, I
was forced to clean up the men's room on my floor.

Speaker 5 (12:54):
Uh we're talking college there.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Yeah, Oh yeah, yeah, because I got sick after a
Friday Saturday night. And normally like that would happen and
you would call and somebody'd come up and clean and
the well, you know what, Okay, I'll tell the story
real quick now. So I got sick coming back from
happy hour or something and a friend and I got sick,
and I got sick in the bathroom and normally when
it would happen, you would call, they would come and
do it. But apparently there was such a rash of
it happening that the person whose job was said I'm

(13:18):
not doing it, and and the person put a note
on the on the on the door to the bathroom
that said, hey, Stone or brains, I still remember, Hey,
Stone or brains, clean up your own mess, not my
job to do it. And I was like, oh man,
so of course nobody knew, and nobody knew it was me.
I could tell the story now, nobody knew it was me,
and like, nobody wanted to use that bathrooms. You went
and it smelled terribly, and I'm going, I don't know

(13:39):
what to do. So the next day, like twenty four
hours later, it was still awful. Everybody on the floor
was talking about it, and I just said, I'll go
in and do it. So I go, and I take
a couple of T shirts and I clean it up
and I throw the stuff away.

Speaker 5 (13:50):
And one of those pine scented felt Christmas trees you
put in the car.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
It was it was awful, like it was terrible, and
I did the stupidest thing. I'm like, well, I'm gonna wash.
I should have just thrown the T shirts away, but
I threw one in the watching machine and tried to
watch it, and of course that overloaded the watching machine.
The watching machine had to be fixed. But I cleaned
up the bathroom. Right, So here's the thing. Because nobody
knew it was me, they all thought I was a hero. Hey,
thanks for going into clamp bytes. I said, oh, you know,

(14:16):
that does happen in life. Sometimes I had to do.

Speaker 5 (14:18):
Yeah, create the problem, fixed the problem. Considered hero for
the problem. I looked like I was, hey, thanks, Hey,
that was really nice.

Speaker 6 (14:24):
You mad?

Speaker 3 (14:25):
Yeah, no, probably I want to. You know, somebody had
to do it, so you know, why not me? Why not? Mean?

Speaker 1 (14:29):
Nobody knew it was me? Was and that looked like
a hero. And then then I ruined the washing machine.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
So there's that.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
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Speaker 1 (14:44):
Well, we are hit deep into Day two of the
NCAA Tournament. Mike Harmon's Oklahoma Sooners, who he is wearing
Oklahoma gear tonight he's a shoeing as purple shorts for
Oklahoma gear because he wants the Sooners to send Danny
Hurly home. However, it's ucon with a three point lead
nearly eight minutes left in the first half. Here, I

(15:06):
know you, I know you are dying to send the
best coach in all of d one home for the season.

Speaker 9 (15:11):
Well, because I want to finish the week with you
here on Fox Sports Radio or extended family Frostburg and
Ty Shirt and Steve Desager. I want to send us
out with the bang because you know he will not
go meekly into the good night if they're losing in
the second half, pissed off if they lose, he might
give a word or two of encouragement to Oklahoma, and

(15:33):
then he'll be pissed off, and then that'll make our
guy after us, Chris Plank, really really happy, and it'll
be in all Oklahoma night here on Fox Sports Radio.
So all of that, I think it is a beautiful
thing that we need something to upset the Apple card
here Cuz right now I'm sitting in the back going baring,
shut up, Homer Bar. That's kind of where I'm at

(15:55):
with the tournament. Okay, so let me ask you this stuf.
What is more likely to happen? What's more like to happen?

Speaker 3 (16:00):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
At the end of the game, Danny Hurley challenges the
final result and and tries to get an injunction to
get Yukon to continue to play.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
Depends how it finishes.

Speaker 9 (16:10):
He talk about possession game where it becomes a hey,
a judgment called by the officials and check the tape,
and that's when he got a committee and on a sudden,
that guy from North Carolina gets involved, like, no, shut up,
your team got sent home, you got.

Speaker 3 (16:25):
You out here, that's an easy one.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
I mean, he loses by fifteen and they're dribbling out
the clock. Does he still try to get an injunction
to get Yukon.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
To want to tournament? Okay, you guys know what I'm
doing tomorrow. What's that? What you do it?

Speaker 10 (16:37):
Frostberg, I'm gonna steal that guy's boom box. That's what
I'm doing.

Speaker 9 (16:41):
They might have cut it up and put it into
trading cards with the stunnery.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
Yeah, mean, he looked like the rizzler who knew a kid,
a kid who is an equipment.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Manager at student manager or student manager at McNee STU
assistant too. I kept looking for more than that, a
story later than Danny Hurley.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
Just think about that. He could be around more or now.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
The other point is this, or does at the end
of the game if they get eliminated, does somebody ask
after the game is over, Danny, Jim Jiff says symptom.
At this point, do you wish you had taken the
Lakers job?

Speaker 3 (17:19):
Did you see what Bronni James did on Thursday? Danny?

Speaker 1 (17:22):
Danny, I mean Bronny had seventeen last night. You had,
you'd have Luca I mean, I.

Speaker 9 (17:27):
Mean it was minus thirty six. They lost by twenty nine,
and nobody played a lake of defense.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
But that's okay, Danny.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
Do you think that you needed the foresight to, you know,
maybe make a better decision instead of just taking a
free trip to Los Angeles with your wife for the weekend.
Do you think that that decision could have been made
a little bit better? Danny, I'm here in the.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
Back right by any property while he was out here.
I don't know.

Speaker 9 (17:48):
What would have been funny though, is if Yukon would
have been matched up with McNee state and then he
walks over with a baseball bat, if they were to
beat miss McNee state and he smashes that guy's boombach.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
Why are you going to violence right away? Why would violence?
Kid was healthy, amir Con, Nothing happened to him.

Speaker 9 (18:03):
It would have been a great I mean, it's like
you smash you get guitar on stage.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
You know.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
The funny thing is how many people you think that
when they hear you know, amir Con the last couple
of days ago.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
Wait is it is he the gam of the Steelers?
Wait a minute, Wait what he's wait?

Speaker 9 (18:16):
Wait the guy and his dad owns the Jaguars right.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
But look, we will have time to get into everything
going on with the NCAA tournament again. Yukon with a
five point lead over Oklahoma right now, Oregon Liberty, Michigan
State Brian still getting set to tip off Illinois Xavier
just underway. That's fourteen fourteen, early in the first half. However,
news that has just come into the Fox Sports Radio

(18:46):
newsroom within the last fifteen minutes, we have lost an
absolute legend as heavyweight champion George Foreman has passed away
at the age of seventy six. Again, this news is
about fifteen or twenty minutes old George Foreman, who had
a career of careers. The guy had three or four careers.
He put that much living into seventy six years. Heavyweight

(19:07):
champion early in his career. After retirement, came back, won
the heavyweight championship at the age of forty five, stick
a pin in that for a couple of minutes, then
started up a multi million dollar grill industry in which
which he sold a bunch of years ago for like
two hundred million dollars. George Foreman had some kind of

(19:28):
life and some kind of career and a participant in
some of the most famous boxing matches of all time,
whether it was George Frasier or Muhammad Ali on an
absolute legend. George Foreman passed away earlier today at the
age of seventy six.

Speaker 9 (19:41):
All the rights to use his name, all the sons
named George, and so many commercials Pitchman and obviously go
back to some of the most iconic moments in our
in our boxing lexicon, in history, you know, from the
wide world of sports, all the mind tajes that we'd
get through the years. And I think, I mean, the

(20:03):
second act happened because I guess hul Cogan didn't didn't
want to be part of the Foreman. What became the
Foreman Grill would have been his instead. It made George
Foreman a couple hundred million dollars and gave him a
whole second act where he was showing up giving you
recipes of how to how to cook.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
And lean and lean and mean and drain.

Speaker 9 (20:22):
The fat from your burgers, all of that stuff. I
mean just insanity, but just a huge life man, just
a larger than life figure that was a fixture on
our television sets and on our sporting world. What five decades,
six decades. When it's all said and done, just an
amazing run.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
You think about the lasting popularity to him, and of
course you think of George Foreman, and there's one one
of the most famous sports phrases that comes to mind
that people have been saying for going on fifty years now.
They have been I mean this is this is you know,
this is like in Giants Win the pennant and famous
calls Uh Vince Scully.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
You know, uh, this is an.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
Amazing lasting popularity that is still gonna go on for
years after because people still say, down goes Fraser.

Speaker 11 (21:15):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
When George Foreman knocked out Joe Fraser and one of
the most famous boxing matches ever and we got Howard Cosell.
You want to know where it came from? Here people
say down goes Fraser all the time. This is where
it came from.

Speaker 11 (21:26):
Angie Dundee, Ali's trainer right next to me. It is
saying that you may hear him. Down goes Frazier, Downs
goes Crasia, Down goes Frasier, heavyweight champion is taking the
mandatory atl and Foreman is as poised as can be
in a new Joe Cornah.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
There was I mean that's why.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
I mean, the down goes French been part of my
life for you know, for since I was fifteen years old,
people saying down goes anybody named Fraser that you knew
who fell down, you would.

Speaker 7 (21:56):
Say, down goes Fraser.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
People's I mean, it's it's it's part of the ark
and lexicon is so famous.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
Howard Cosell's call of that moment. Well that's it though, right,
he became ubiquitous.

Speaker 9 (22:06):
You used it did if you push somebody down and
you said, down goes Frasier. I just wanted to give
the extra love to George Junior, George the third, also
known as Monk, George the fourth, known as Big Wheel,
George the fifth known as Red, and George the sixth
known as for whatever reason, little Joey.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Okay, well you know, hey, all the kids are named George.
I kind of I remember. I respect that it was.
It's it was a little weird, but I'm like, okay,
all right, I have everybody's you know, Okay, Like I like,
you gotta have nicknames, right. You can't keep saying George
the second, George the third, Georgia four unless you just
call him by numbers, Hey A three.

Speaker 3 (22:42):
Two four three six.

Speaker 9 (22:44):
You know, like my older brother is Arthur James the Fourth,
so they sometimes called them four.

Speaker 7 (22:51):
A J four, called them four Jay four.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
But you just go through. I mean it was a minister.
The man lived many lives. There's no question he was.

Speaker 9 (23:03):
One of the clips that that I saw and that
came up very fast, was a proposed television show that
he was going to do about going to Disney, and
he had a whole deal with.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
Them for like a travel channel kind of thing.

Speaker 9 (23:17):
So just uh, I don't know, it's it's another one
of those legends that's been with me. I mean, obviously
his biggest moments boxing wives were like right as I
came into this world. But it's just been part of
our history and that phraseology, uh, and that product that
launched an industry, the George Forman grill is responsible for

(23:40):
billions of dollars consumption.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
No, I mean, not even just millennials just know him
as the grill guy until tonight.

Speaker 10 (23:49):
Until I told you tonight, you had no idea he
was a boxer.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
Yes, he was the guy that served me delicious cheeseburgers.
You mean the grill guy. Wait a minute, Yeah, legend.
But to put him in perspective.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
Now, think about this for a second, okay, because this
is really what gets lost with the entire life of
George Horman. Right, we'll get into we'll talk about when
we were kings coming up, and yes, we'll get into
more of his life. But this is somebody who retired
from boxing in the seventies.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
He was done.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
He physically, he got ill before a fight and he
didn't think he could fight anymore. He didn't fight ten years.
He didn't fight. Comes out of retirement at the age
of thirty eight. Right, this is the Wilford Brimley line
from The Natural Fella. People don't start playing bali at
your age. A retire comes out out of retirement at
the age of thirty eight. I believe he came out,

(24:38):
he said in the end, he said, listen, people thought
it was this whole big thing. I was just trying
to make money for my boxing academy, like he was
trying to get infusions of cash and stuff. And he
wins the heavyweight title at the age of forty five.
Now he loses a couple of fights along the way.
He had a great fight against the Vander Holyfield and
he went the distance on same thing with Tommy Morrison, right,
but he goes and he wins the he heavyweight title,

(25:00):
beating Michael Moore, who is twenty six years old.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
At the age of forty five.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Now you think about forty five, Okay, Tom Brady, right,
won the Super Bowl forty five years old. You think
about that level what he did and Tom brit Wow,
that's amazing. George Foreman winning the heavyweight championship of the
world at forty five years old, that blows that, like
blows away what Brady did times ten. All right, you're

(25:27):
talking about a team sport. In football, he has Brady
was the best, right, but obviously Brady's still at a
point where physically he could still get by. This is,
you know, a play against younger players, right, absolutely, But
this is, George, a fight in a sport that is
all about quickness and reflexes and strength. That you are
not as strong at forty five as you are when

(25:49):
you are twenty five, you are not. You were not
as fast at forty five as you are when you're
twenty five, you're not. And especially for a professional athlete. Now,
Tom Brady doesn't have to worry about what I'm feeling
a'm belittling Brady. Brady, the stakes is overrated.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
You said that for years anyways.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
But Brady that never had to really worry about his
speed or his strength. He could still throw the foot
bind even near the end. His arm wasn't quite as
strong as it was. But boxing is a sport that
is about, you know, it's about It's about physicality and
quick mental acuity, right, and okay, the mental acuity you
still slow down a little bit. You're not quite as
fast you are on your forty five, but okay. But

(26:24):
physically to be able to win the heavyweight championship of
the world when you are forty five years old, that
that may be the most that may be the most
incredible physical accomplishment of my life that I just don't
spend enough attention thinking about. I mean, forty five years old,
not to Tyson came out of retirement in his mid thirties.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
It was, man, can you even stay in the ring?
Can you do this? Can you can you still do?
Look you look at some guys. It can't.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Tiger Woods can't even golf, you know, in his mid
to late forties, couldn't do it. For most of his forties,
and here's Foreman. Yeah, I'm gonna win the heavy white
tuy still standing in between the r in between sounds
like he would do to really psych out the other guy.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
Dude, can't just sit down.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
You don't need to sit down, Okay, but the heavyweight
championship of the world at forty five years old, like
that is. I mean, it happened, and it happened when
I was young enough to see it and young enough
to understand what it was. But I don't know, maybe
I needed to get older, Maybe I needed to get
into my mid forties myself to understand wow, and you
know when I need an extra couple of seconds just
to get up out of a chair, this guy's standing

(27:25):
up and winning the heavyweight championship of the world like
that is. I mean, I don't know that we really
understand and pay enough attention to give enough respect to
that sort of achievement that George Foreman had.

Speaker 9 (27:36):
Yeah, it's one of those where it's far enough in
the rear view that maybe just not in the purview,
not part of the daily conversation, and certainly when we
talk boxing.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
I mean it's not.

Speaker 9 (27:46):
In in the lexicon and in the front not front
and center like it was with those big pay per
views or even the weekly wide world of sports that
A referenced before. Right, we'd get replays and we'd get
that in our space.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
But boxing is not what it was, right, I mean,
it's been eclipsed by so many other things and that's
really too bad too.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
But it's still healthy.

Speaker 9 (28:10):
If you go find box and we want the heavyweights
seventy six wins, five losses, sixty eight knockouts own, by
the way, how does forty five work? Country strong out
of Marshall, Texas and a reach of.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
Seventy eight inches.

Speaker 9 (28:24):
To put that in perspective, demand stood six three.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
I can reach across the room and tap you on
the shoulder. Really that Oh wow?

Speaker 3 (28:33):
That far?

Speaker 1 (28:34):
Okay, you could do it that way. I mean, what
an unbelievable life, unbelievable career. George Forarn will continue to
remember his life and career throughout the show tonight, but
just think about that heavyweight champion of the world at
forty five years old.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
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Speaker 2 (29:05):
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Speaker 1 (29:12):
News that has just come into the Fox Sports Radio newsroom.
Within the last fifteen minutes, we have lost an absolute
legend as heavyweight champion George Foreman has passed away at
the age of seventy six. Again, this news is about
fifteen or twenty minutes old George Foreman, who had a
career of careers. The guy had three or four careers.

(29:33):
He put that much living into seventy six years. Heavyweight
champion early in his career after retirement, came back, won
the heavyweight championship at the age of forty five, stick
a pin in that for a couple of minutes, then
started up a multi million dollar grill industry in which
which he sold a bunch of years ago for like
two hundred million dollars. George Foreman had some kind of

(29:56):
life and some kind of career and a participant in
some of the most famous boxing matches of all time,
whether it was George Frasier or Muhammad Ali on absolute legend.
George Foreman passed away earlier today at the age of
seventy six.

Speaker 9 (30:10):
All the rights to use his name, all the sons
named George, and so many commercials pitch Man and obviously
go back to some of the most iconic moments in
our in our boxing lexicon, in history, you know, from
the wide world of sports. You know all the montages
that we'd get through the years. And I think, I mean,

(30:32):
the second act happened because I guess hul Cogan didn't
didn't want to be part of the Foreman.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
What became the Foreman Grill would have been his.

Speaker 9 (30:39):
Yes, Instead, it made George Foreman a couple hundred million
dollars and gave him a whole second act where he
was showing up giving you recipes of how to how
to cook and lean and lean and mean and drain
the fat from your burgers, all of that stuff. I
mean just insanity, but just a huge life man, just
a larger than life figure that was a fixture on

(31:03):
our television sets and on our sporting world. What five decades,
six decades when it's all said and done, just an
amazing run.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
You think about the lasting popularity to him, and of
course you think of George Foreman, and there's one one
of the most famous sports phrases that comes to mind
that people have been saying for going on fifty years now.
They have been I mean, this is this is you know,
this is like in Giants Win the Pennant and famous
calls Vince Scully. You know, this is an amazing lasting

(31:37):
popularity that is still gonna go on for years after
because people still say, down goes Fraser. When George Foreman
knocked out Joe Fraser and one of the most famous
boxing matches ever and we got Howard Cosell. You want
to know where it came from? Here people say down
goes Fraser all the time. This is where it came from.

Speaker 11 (31:55):
Agie Dundee, Allie's trainer right next to me. It's saying
that you may hear him Goes Frazier, Down goes Frazier,
Down Goes Frazier. The heavyweight champion is taking the mandatory
a town and Bullman is as poised as can be
in a new Joe.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
Kanna there was. I mean, that's why I mean the
down goes Fret.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
It's been part of my life for you know, for
since I was fifteen years old, people saying down goes
anybody named Fraser that you knew who fell down, you would.

Speaker 7 (32:25):
Say, down goes Fraser.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
People's I mean, it's it's it's part of the American
lexicon is so famous.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
Howard Kosell's call of that moment.

Speaker 9 (32:32):
Well, that's it though, right, he became ubiquitous you used
it did if you push somebody down and you said,
down goes Fraser. I just wanted to give the extra
love to George Junior, George the third, also known as Monk,
George the fourth, known as Big Wheel, George the fifth
known as Red, and George the sixth known as for
whatever reason, little Joey.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
Okay, well you know, hey, all the kids are named George.
I kind of I remember what I respect that it was.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
It's it was a.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
Little weird, but I'm like, okay, all right, I have
everybody's you know, Okay, Like, like, you gotta have nicknames, right,
You can't keep saying George the second, Georgia, third, Georgia
four unless you just call him by numbers, Hey A three.

Speaker 9 (33:11):
Two six, You know, like, well, my older brother is
Arthur James the fourth, so they sometimes called him.

Speaker 7 (33:19):
Four A J four, called them four J four.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
But you just go through. I mean, it was a minister.
The man lived many lives. There's no question. He was.

Speaker 9 (33:32):
One of the clips that that I saw and that
came up very fast, was uh a proposed television show
that he was going to do about going to Disney,
and he had a whole deal with them for like
a travel channel kind of thing. So just uh, I
don't know, it's it's another one of those legends that's
been with me. I mean, obviously his biggest moments boxing

(33:56):
wives were like right as I came into this world.
But it's just been part of our history and that
phraseology and that product that launched an industry. George Foreman
grill is responsible for billions of dollars consumption.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
No, I mean, not even just millennials, just know him
as the grill guy.

Speaker 10 (34:17):
Until tonight, Until I told you tonight, you had no
idea he was a boxer.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
Yes, he was the guy that served me delicious cheeseburgers.
You mean the grill guy. Wait a minute, Yeah, legend.
But to put him in perspective.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
Now, think about this for a second, okay, because this
is really what gets lost with the entire life of
George Horman. Right, we'll get into we'll talk about when
we were kings coming up, and yes, we'll get into more.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
Of his life.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
But this is somebody who retired from boxing in the seventies.
He was done, he physically, you know, he got ill
before a fight and he didn't think he could fight anymore.
He didn't fight ten years. He didn't fight. Comes out
of retirement at the age of thirty eight. Right, this
is the Wilford Brimley line from The Natural Fellip. People

(35:01):
don't start playing ball at your age. A retire comes
out out.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
Of retirement at the age of thirty eight.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
I believe he came out, he said in the end,
he said, listen, people thought it was this whole big thing.
I was trying to make money for my boxing academy,
like he was trying to get infusions of cash and stuff.
And he wins the heavyweight title at the age of
forty five. Now he loses a couple of fights along
the way. He had a great fight against the Vander
Holyfield and he went the distance on same thing with
Tommy Morrison, right, but he goes and he wins the

(35:28):
heavyweight title, beating Michael Moore, who is twenty six years
old at the age of forty five. Now you think
about forty five, okay, Tom Brady, right, won the Super
Bowl forty five years old. You think about that level
what he did at Tom Britt, Wow, that's amazing. George
Foreman winning the heavyweight championship of the world at forty

(35:50):
five years old, that blowed that like blows away what
Brady did times ten. All right, you're talking about a
team sport. In football, heys Brady was the best, right,
But obviously Brady's still at a point where physically he
could still get by. This is you know, playing against
younger players, right, absolutely, But this is George Troy a
fight in a sport that is all about quickness and

(36:13):
reflexes and strength. That you are not as strong at
forty five as you are when you are twenty five,
you are not. You were not as fast at forty
five as you are in your twenty five you're not.
And especially for a professional athlete. Now Tom Brady doesn't
have to worry about now I'm feeling like a belittling Brady.
Brady stinks he's overrated.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
You said that for years anyways.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
But Brady that never had to really worry about his
speed or his strength. He could still throw the foot
bind even near the end. His arm wasn't quite as
strong as it was. But boxing is a sport that
is about, you know, it's about It's about physicality and
quick mental acuity, right, and okay, the mental acuity you
still slow down a little bit.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
You're not quite as fast you are in your forty
five but okay. But physically to be able to win
the heavyweight championship of the world when you are forty
five years old, that that may be the most that
may be the most incredible physical accomplishment of my life.
That I just don't spend enough attention thinking about Ian
forty five years old. Not to Tyson came out of

(37:12):
retirement in his mid thirties. It was, man, can you
even stay in the ring? Can you do this? Can
you can you still do? Look you look at some guys.
It can't.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
Tiger Woods can't even golf. You know, in his mid
to late forties, he couldn't do it. For most of
his forties and here's Foreman. Yeah, I'm gonna win the
heavy white guy still standing in between the rik in
between rounds like he would do to really psych out
the other guy.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
Dude, can't just sit down. You don't need to sit.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
Down, Okay, But the heavyweight championship of the world at
forty five years old, like that is. I mean, it happened,
and it happened when I was young enough to see
it and young enough to understand what it was. But
I don't know, maybe I needed to get older, Maybe
I needed to get into my mid forties myself to
understand wow, and you know when I need an extra
couple of seconds just to get up out of a chair,

(37:53):
this guy's standing up and winning the heavyweight championship of
the world like that is. I mean, I don't know
that we really understand and paying enough attention to give
enough respect to that sort of achievement that George Foreman had.

Speaker 9 (38:04):
Yeah, it's one of those where it's far enough in
the rear view that maybe just not in the purview,
not part of the daily conversation, and certainly when we
talk boxing.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
I mean it's not.

Speaker 9 (38:15):
In in the lexicon and in the front not front
and center like it was with those big pay per
views or even the weekly wide world of sports that
A referenced before right where we'd get replays and we'd
get that in our space.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
But boxing is not what it was, right, I mean,
it's been eclipsed by so many other things and that's
really too bad too.

Speaker 9 (38:37):
But it's still healthy. If you go find boxing, we
want the heavyweights. Seventy six wins, five losses, sixty eight knockouts. Owing,
by the way, how does forty five work? Country strong
out of Marshall, Texas and a reach of seventy eight inches.
To put that in perspective, the man stood six three.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
I can reach across the room and tap you on
the shoulder. Really that Oh wow? That far?

Speaker 1 (39:03):
Okay, you can do it that way. I mean, what
an unbelievable life, unbelievable career. George Forarn will continue to
remember his life and career throughout the show tonight, but
just think about that heavyweight champion of the world at
forty five years old.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
Teams resting players.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
Well, that is square in the wheelhouse and the cross
has of our next guest joining us now on the
hotline Fox Sports Won NBA Inside are extraordinaire. He is
on Twitter at Rick Buker. You can check out the
Omi Ball podcast as well.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
Rick.

Speaker 8 (39:40):
What's happening, Bud Oh, I'm living life large, just not
as large as Luca doncis right now.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
No, I'll tell you what and this, you know, Mike
and I talked about this last hours. This is one
of those we talked about this when the trade happened.
There's gonna be an unforeseen effect of this trade, and
that is when, hey, when Lebron is out, because he's
going to miss time as he's getting older, he's not
going to play. The minutes aren't going to be there.
The Lakers will be just fine in certain games because

(40:10):
Luca's good enough to go. We watched him carry bad
Mavericks teams. He will be able to carry bad Lakers
teams when Lebron's not playing.

Speaker 8 (40:17):
Yeah, no, there's no question about it. What's going to
be interesting is like they were doing a pretty good
job of sharing the ball and sharing the responsibility of
playmaking and all of that. But this has become the
Luca Dnson show. And what will be interesting And I
don't have any reason to believe it that Lebron won't

(40:41):
take part in this, but Lebron really becomes sort of
a spacer and a off the ball fake creator. If
Luca is going to continue this way, and why wouldn't
you because he's on one right now, the dynamics will
just be interesting. That's the thing that I think ultimately

(41:02):
is going to be the challenge is as Luca expands
his footprint on this team. Obviously, Jackson Hayes will feed
off of that, the spot guys will feed off of that.
In Austin Reeves and and Lebron James, They'll still be effective.

(41:23):
But can they be as effective as they've been? That
is going to be the challenge, because those guys are
at their best still when they have the ball in
their hands, and the way lucas going right now, it's
going to be awfully hard to say we don't want
the ball in Luca's hands.

Speaker 9 (41:40):
Yeah, And and based on the splits Lebron did at his
kids championship game, he looks like he should be ready
to get back on the court here soon, right.

Speaker 8 (41:48):
Yeah, I mean I'm going to leave. I'm going to
leave that alone.

Speaker 9 (41:53):
I'm gonna how about we go to load management as
a whole, Rick and what we saw and guys getting
the parenthetical rest and the investigations that the league is
supposedly undergoing.

Speaker 8 (42:06):
Any Yeah, but I'm not going to leave the Lebron
James thing alone. Forget it. This is this is I'm
not gonna I'm not gonna get into why he's there
and he has this injury and he's skipping around and
dancing and all that, because I don't know what kind
of injury he has and all that. But I just

(42:27):
I've always had this thing like you're going and your
kids having a championship game, and you are Lebron James
and every other player that I've known in those situations,
they sit, they try to be as inconspicuous as possible.
And I know that that's really hard for Lebron James,
but I've seen guys do it. They come in late,

(42:50):
got their hat low, they're sitting in the back, they're
they're sitting or sitting some place where they can they
can sneak in or where they're not front and center,
and I just I don't know whether it's Lebron doesn't
care or whether he doesn't recognize, but I'm just looking
at it and saying, the kids love, no doubt love

(43:11):
that Lebron James is there, certainly, but when he's front
and center, how does it not become Lebron James? And
maybe the kids don't care, maybe the parents don't care.
I'm just looking at this is the one and only
time these kids get to perform and play for something,
And maybe Bryce James is used to it at this point,

(43:33):
but I just I think I would like him to
be a little more inconspicuous when it's not his rather
than like sitting courtside, like, how does it not become
the Lebron James sing? And you guys tell me if
I'm barking up the wrong tree or this I'm taking.
I am taking exception to something that I should not

(43:54):
take exception to. But and I don't feel like strongly
about it. I've just seen whether it's Steph Curry or
any number of guys who like they sneak in and
they try to make sure that they want to be
there to support their kid and their kid knows that
they're there, but they don't want to steal the spotlight
from their kid or anybody else's kid, because this is

(44:17):
this may be the biggest game that they ever play.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
Rick, you realize you're talking about Lebron James. You read
this is Lebron. Lebron James has never you know, walked
in with his hat low anyway. Hey, I don't want
to make any waves here. He doesn't do He hasn't
done that for twenty years.

Speaker 4 (44:34):
Yeah, I would just yeah, you're right, you're right, but
I would think that maybe he'd make an exception here.
I can, I can still hold out hope, right, just maybe,
just maybe anyway.

Speaker 9 (44:47):
Supposed to say this in your best soap opera after voice,
if you're going to do this right, it would be.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
One thing if Lebron had an older kid that he
got into the NBA all by himself. But he hasn't
done Oh wait a minute, wait a minute, Oh you
know you know you want a great Lebron. I got
a great Lebron hot Teke for you. Ready, great Lebron Hoteke.
Who were talking about how injuredy Okay is and I
said this when had happened. Hm, Lebron is magically going

(45:13):
to heal when the Lakers six games and eight nights,
which is ridiculous. I don't know how you put that
on the schedule. But when the Lakers six games and
eight nights expires tomorrow, I think he'll be ready to
play Saturday for the first I think that's when he's
coming back to the line up against the Hawks.

Speaker 8 (45:29):
I will be interested to see that and whether that
is a conspiracy theory that actually comes true, because every
other conspiracy theory that I've heard over the last forty
eight hours has not happened. Like the Denver Nuggets rested
Jamal Murray and Nikola Jokic and Kristan Brown so that

(45:49):
they would be fresh and be able to take down
the Lakers. Oh wait, Nikola Jokic Jamal Murray actually might
be injured. They might They might be missing time because
they actually physically can't play. How about that? Or let's
say Oklahoma City because they own the rights to Philadelphia's

(46:11):
first round pick if it is seventh or lower, and
they played Philly tonight and you know what, they're not
playing Shell Goods, Shay Gilds Alexander Is that because they
want the seventy sixers to win, and then they'll fall
or move higher up in the standings, and then as
a result, there'll be a better chance that they actually

(46:31):
fall seventh through thirtieth. I just that Oklahoma City Center
don't have enough draft picks already, and oh wait, Oklahoma City,
even without Shake Gills is out of the Center for stomp
the Philadelphia seventy six Ers by thirty three points. I
just I think maybe part of it is that we're

(46:53):
in this kind of this low point in the in
the in the sports schedule where we have to create
drama or controversy, and so we're now talking about guys
teams fitting stars for various games and various opponents and
figuring out some sort of you know, underhanded reason why,

(47:18):
some sinister reason why they're they're doing that. And I'm
just looking at it, first of all, any any thought
that like any one game is going to tip the
scales when it comes to the draft or draft positioning.
Do people realize one that we're talking about one game

(47:39):
out of a remaining fourteen when it comes to Oklahoma
City and Philadelphia, as if somehow losing the Philadelphia is
now going to do what in comparison to what happens
in the other thirteen games, Toronto Raptors are still one
game ahead of them. They don't Oklahoma City doesn't control
anything by resting Shago's Alexander in this particular game, and

(48:03):
then regardless of where they finish in the standings, we
then have the lottery, which is going to determine them
the actual positioning of the draft, and then we can
look at the fact that even if you happen to
get the number one pick, you still may not pick
the right player or get the best player in the

(48:25):
draft unless it's just clear cut. And Antonio Spurs did
not have the worst records in the league. They wound
up with the number one pick and they got Victor Wembanyama.
The Atlanta Hawks had a chance of getting the number
one pick, lo and behold, they got the number one
pick and mixed blessings because they got Resa Che. So

(48:47):
like this idea that there's like this master plan going on,
We're going to rest these guys now, and that as
a result, this is going to happen. It's just kind
of goofy because there's so many very bulls and layers
to it. I can't help but feel like and it's
and it's u you know, we got media members who
covered the NBA out there shouting for the tree tops.

(49:10):
This is totally unfair, This is uncalled for. This makes
the league look bad. Okay, what do you say now
when none of the things you suggested were going to
happen actually happened.

Speaker 3 (49:19):
Well, it was more fun than the old argument.

Speaker 9 (49:21):
And think of the children, think of Johnny and Susie
up in the three hundred level, Rick, I mean this,
this at least gives it some GRAVI toss and weight.

Speaker 8 (49:31):
Yeah, well I will I will say this. I feel like,
I don't know how you guys feel about this, but
I've been thinking about this, Like you go when you
buy a three hundred dollars ticket to go watch a game,
and I'm thinking, you know, at this point, if you're
gonna pay three hundred bucks for a ticket and you're

(49:51):
and it's and it's because you want to go see
a particular player, you're not you're not a very smart
investor of your money because there's a good chance you're
not gonna But if it's all about one player that
you want to go see, then uh, you know what,
watch his highlights on YouTube. You don't have to spend
three hundred dollars because it's it's who knows, you know

(50:14):
what happened to going to watch your favorite team play.
I just I look at that, and I can't help
but think that some of the ego or some of
the complaint is, you know what, I bought these tickets
and I told my kids, I am going to take
you to go see Lebron James. And then Lebron James

(50:35):
doesn't play, and dad has egg on his face. I
think that's what drives me. I can't believe that guy
didn't play because I promised my kid he was going
to play. You know what, you should be careful what
those promises, because, like I said, it's a bad investment
at this point here going out and and want to
guarantee anybody that are going to see a particular play
on a given night.

Speaker 1 (50:56):
Well see this Rick, where I think you do? You
and your other you know, NBA media breathren all the
insiders report. You need to stand up and say, hey,
you know we're gonna take some time off. You know,
I worked yesterday, I'm not gonna work today. Wait, but
there's appreciate. No, I'm not gonna not gonna talk about you,
not gonna talk about Lebron, not gonna talk about Steph,
not gonna talk about Giannis.

Speaker 3 (51:14):
I'm telling you I need it's you know, these back
to backs.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
I gotta pick the night I want to work and
say stuff about Steph and Giannis and Lebron.

Speaker 3 (51:21):
I'm paying. I'm gonna do it on Monday night, not Tuesday.

Speaker 8 (51:24):
You know what? You know what I could I could
name you just about every NBA media person who would be.

Speaker 3 (51:33):
All in on that, and.

Speaker 8 (51:37):
Then their their producer or their editor or their boss
to say, you're gonna do what now? You're threatening to
do what now?

Speaker 11 (51:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (51:48):
I turned on FS one to see Rick Buker. Turns
out he's sitting out because his kid has a championship game.
Look at him, he's running on the floor, he's upset
with the referee. He's on TMZ.

Speaker 8 (51:57):
Now, there have been there and plenty of former FS
one people who for one reason or another, failed to
show up when they were supposed to or were late,
and you'll notice they're not on air anymore. So, all right,
I got it may work for players, it does not

(52:18):
work for media. People. Hey, what in fact, in fact,
why don't you guys be the first one's experiment with it?
You just go ahead and decide, you know what. Hey,
by the way, I'm not doing the show on I'm
not doing the show on Thursday. Okay, I'm going to
protest because because Shay Gils Is Alexander did not play
for the Thunder on Wednesday night, and I just don't

(52:41):
feel that I should have to show up and do
the show on Thursday.

Speaker 9 (52:45):
I should be able to claim a mental health day. Yeah,
you could do that, sure, I mean it left, it
rocked me to my core.

Speaker 3 (52:51):
Rick, Yes, I am.

Speaker 4 (52:53):
I am.

Speaker 8 (52:54):
I am wounded. I am wounded as a result of
Shay Gills Alexander not playing against the Philadelphia seventy six.
Is that hurt my soul? And I need to I
need to mend it. Let's see how that flies.

Speaker 3 (53:09):
Let me know, all right now? Less I want, I want.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
I want to leave you with this because now I've
figured out a way I have I can solve all
the Knicks issues.

Speaker 12 (53:16):
Oh boy, solving wall right now, solving wall. That's the
greatest villain laugh I've heard a while. Yeah, Yes, mister Bond,
I expect you to die.

Speaker 8 (53:35):
Okay already.

Speaker 3 (53:36):
It's very simple.

Speaker 8 (53:38):
Let me catch my breath.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
It's very simple.

Speaker 8 (53:40):
If the two words aren't Jim Dolan, then no.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
No, no, no, no no no no no nothing, no
no no. Tracy Morgan. He even said, throwing up at
the game, maybe I'm the Nicks good luck sharm. He
comes to every game he throws up. He becomes the
Knicks Grimace like the Mets had Grimace last year. And
the Knicks go on a run all the way to
the East Finals and beyond.

Speaker 8 (54:04):
Oh oh, you know what. This would be the true
test of a Knicks fan? Are you willing to watch
Morgan throw up night after night for every.

Speaker 3 (54:13):
W Are you kidding? Why do I get him sick
with today chicken?

Speaker 7 (54:18):
Are you kidding?

Speaker 3 (54:18):
I've been sure the best to be possible.

Speaker 8 (54:21):
You'd be right there next to him throwing up.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
Let me do it, sympathy, throwing.

Speaker 8 (54:28):
Up my finger down your throat, So you gotta help, Tracy.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
He's on Twitter at Rick Buker, That is at Rick Buker.
Check out on the Ball podcast as well. The Quad
up there as well with more stuff on the Celtics,
the Nuggets, and a very stubborn, Tom Timbodow and beyond.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
Rick is always buddy. Appreciate it, man. We'll talk to
you next week.

Speaker 8 (54:48):
Projectile YO

Speaker 3 (54:51):
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