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Speaker 1 (00:28):
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Speaker 4 (00:37):
Still counting his RBIs today seventy seven, seventy eight, one
hundred and forty six, one hundred and forty seven, one hundred.

Speaker 5 (00:48):
And eighty one.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Oh and I'm sorry, that's how many points the Cavs
won by. Sorry I got confused there.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
Well live betting it got up to minus fifty seven and.

Speaker 5 (00:56):
A half and now it's dead betting. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (00:59):
Put up at swollen Alma on Twitter, slash x, whatever
you want to call it. The poll question for the
uh the best sports meme you can attribute to this
particular beat down. Do you take the stop Stop, he's
already dead from the Simpsons.

Speaker 5 (01:16):
Yeah, but that's been used a lot, but it's still more.

Speaker 4 (01:17):
Do you have Duke throw the damn towel? Or is
there another entry? Comes one? Just trying to figure out
what would be that one to start pushing forward.

Speaker 5 (01:27):
Oh, you get some ideas. It's some ideas.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
You never know something from there will be blood where
he's sitting there. After bludgeting this guy, I'm done.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
I can say this because it's a week later. I
can say the final the final scene from the Last
of Us episode two, where's stop Stop?

Speaker 5 (01:47):
It's not like that's the one.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
Can I say of all the shows that have in
the last two years, Half.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Broken Golf Club, that's that's that's the one. That's the
one you put in there. There's my vote.

Speaker 5 (01:57):
You see.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
You can't even spoil for me because I don't know that
there's a show I had less anticipation for and season
two events.

Speaker 5 (02:04):
Well you should. Hey, I'll tell you what.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
It's got me more anticipatory than what I've been watching
with and or the first I've heard the bad things.
Here's there's only one problem with it. What's the problem
is only one Probably only one. One problem, only one
problem one PC everything falls under one problem. One problem.
It stinks this season is so boring because.

Speaker 4 (02:23):
They sold the hell out of it. I saw ads
for it everywhere. I feel like I feel like critics
are watching watching a different show. Do I have a
different show, because this is just the first three episodes
they released are so incredibly boring. Well, maybe they were
comparing it to some of these beatdowns in the NBA playoffs,
because you've had some marvelous games, some controversial finishes, and

(02:43):
then you get what we forced to.

Speaker 5 (02:44):
Know of Calves.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Heat was better than the first three episodes. Oh sure, DJ,
Clearly I could watch that basketball game, a TV show
and or something different from what I watched earlier today, DJ.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
Now, is that fourth quarter only if you have a
bet live?

Speaker 5 (03:02):
Dude? Even that even that was better? Man, I'm about
to that's that's wow. That's bad.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
Even a two screen experience doesn't save that. And by that,
I mean with the TV on and you playing on
your iPad. That doesn't even I.

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we watched an absolutely I mean, I can't even I
can't even describe what it's been the last two games
for the Miami Heat. The Cleveland Cavaliers say hello to
the second round by beating the Miami Heat tonight one
thirty eight to eighty three. In case you did do
math really fast, that is a fifty five point victory

(03:50):
for the Cavaliers. This game was absolutely never in doubt.
First quarter, Cavaliers led forty three seventeen, They led seventy
two to thirty three. At halftime, you say seventy two
to thirty three, you would go, wait, is that an
old Bellichick.

Speaker 5 (04:06):
And his girlfriend? No, hey, we don't talk about that.

Speaker 4 (04:10):
At least nine more we're not talking about it. Look,
it doesn't get more embarrassing in sports, and I'm serious,
it doesn't get more embarrassing than what the Heat put
out there the last two games against this Cavaliers team.
I get that the Heat should not win this series.
They probably shouldn't win a game. They're eight games under
five hundred. This is how it goes. You get hot,
you win a play you win a playing game. I'm

(04:32):
not expecting them to win a gain, but you show
up and lose by thirty and then basically it's we've
been up, we've been on the plane, we've been gone
ever since, ever since that game three. This is just embarrassing.
It's just excited. That's it. This is as embarrassing as
it gets. Like this is where pat Riley and Eric
Spolstra have to look at each other and look in
the mirror and go, what are we doing?

Speaker 1 (04:52):
Like like, what what what are we doing? I mean,
we thought things were terrific during the playing week. We
found Tyler heroes our guy. We got to build around him.
Now you see not only just how far they are
from real competition, but how far they are from caring,
from care about about sh Hey, we'd lose by the
four game four. We're just going through the most. We're done.

Speaker 5 (05:09):
We're absolutely well, that's.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
A difficult part of it, right, You're gonna lose, and
you may lose handily.

Speaker 5 (05:15):
Here you've got searchest even lost handily. Losing handily is
losing by twenty or twenty five but that's just it.

Speaker 4 (05:21):
Like the effort level. First quarter, they get blitzed, what
forty three seventeen, and like, all right, we're done. You
know you could do the one, two three, can coon
start holding up auctions for the the roster spots for
the rest of the game, you know, maybe get deeper
into the rotation than the five guys. JJ Redick used, uh,

(05:41):
and then you maybe maybe you just have a bunch
of people sitting courtside that suddenly hold up Jimmy Butler
pictures lat he would have tried.

Speaker 5 (05:48):
Damn it. I can't get over just how I'm bad.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
This is like when a franchise you go, I can't
even talk to anybody postgame. I can't even do it
because I'm so incredibly embouded. But it's the antithesis of
everything they been right.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
The identity was toughness, going all the way back to
when he culture is at two for when those guys
showed up and the years hence, there was always just
an attitude in the building. Now they didn't have to
like Spolster, you don't have to get along, you don't
have to like pat Riley. But it made it work,
and the guys that showed up. You at least knew
they were gonna put their hard hat on and for

(06:20):
four quarters they were gonna battle your ass. The last
two games were on embarrassment. This is Cleveland.

Speaker 5 (06:27):
It's as bad. It's bad.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
This is really It doesn't get worse on the court
in the NBA than this. Like this is like we
we have to question everything we're doing. If this is
how our team shows up back to the wall. Yes,
are you coming back from di.

Speaker 5 (06:41):
And at home? And I get it, Hey, we're on
the run. You're at home, men, this is how you
show up. I mean, I get, I.

Speaker 4 (06:47):
Mean you are in Miami and it is a distraction.
I get, I get that Cleveland was gonna win the series.
When you're at home, it's a distraction.

Speaker 5 (06:55):
I think I'd be Look, I don't.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
I think I would take if you made it the
Miami Heat versus one guy and no gorillas, I would
still I would take.

Speaker 5 (07:06):
The one guy over the heat.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
Well, we need to do that.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
I would take the one guy right from that whole
one hundred men versus a gorilla who wins the whole,
this whole thing going on. I would take one guy, scrawny,
maybe five to five. Maybe like Steve Rodgers before he
took the serum, and I would take that set heart
Captain America. I would take that Steve Rodgers over the Heat.
In this game, he would have won.

Speaker 4 (07:31):
This is one where you really wish there was an
obligation to where if a game truly gets out of
this sort a camera is on or a phone has
to be turned onto Adam Silver for the fourth quarter
and you have to watch his face the entire time
as he's sitting with whoever. He could be at dinner.
He could be having a nice bubble bad. I don't care.

(07:51):
You have to watch this direk too.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
I mean, I can't get on. I mean this is
just there's not a lot to say other than just wow.
You should be absolutely and if there was relegation, you
would think, okay, maybe the heatchuld mayeach.

Speaker 5 (08:04):
But this is a playoff series. Wrexham moves up and
the heat go out. You're relegate.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
Things were so bad losing by fifty five at home, Yeah,
you're getting relegated. You're playing in there, you're playing in
the CBA.

Speaker 4 (08:15):
You're plot tyler hero thirty one minutes played. He was
one of ten from the field one of nine from
three point range, minus forty four for him. Uh so
you finished with four points. I don't even.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
I can't even tell people I played for the Heat.
If I did, I would you played? H No? No,
I played, and I played in college. What do you
do now? I work in the bank.

Speaker 4 (08:35):
Yeah, you know how we get past that? We made
the playoffs. Of course that means you're not in the lottery.
But we made the playoffs, and I just cashed a
really big check. Yeah, and then I put my sunglasses on,
I get in my sports car and I drive. Nah, No,
you can't can I got a long off season?

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Now you can't even You can't. You can't, like, can
you even go to off season functions?

Speaker 4 (08:54):
And so I play for the Heacher.

Speaker 5 (08:56):
You played for the Heat? Wow? Really? Who? So you
haven't needed to take a hour in a couple months
because you haven't been trying.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
Oh no, no, this is where you do the real
cell Like I played hard my teammates. Boy, I tell
you nobody else, especially the guys that are gone. Like
once we get through the cycle, you don't schedule anything
until free agency started, and then once a bunch of
guys got you know that guy he played thirty minutes.
He did not give a damn.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
Don't you play for the heat? No, no, no, my name
is Roger Murdoch. Man, I'm a pilot. You're a tyler.
Here you wearing that bucket? Hut no, no, no, no,
don't kidd I I'm sorry. I work at Starbucks on
the corner. I make that nice little basketball up picture
and you're in the top of your you're moking there.

Speaker 5 (09:35):
Looks nice. Yeah, that's what I do. You win one
thirty eight eighty three.

Speaker 4 (09:38):
Darius Garland doesn't even play.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
No, no, no, Mark Price didn't play.

Speaker 5 (09:44):
Craig eLOAD didn't play.

Speaker 4 (09:46):
This might be the most wait, the most guys on
a roster to get minutes in a game. Man, Oh yeah,
yeah right, I mean it all the way five minutes.
But the Tumak from the twenty nineteen raft class there
is one of those guys you attracted beyond the John
Zion world. He played seven minutes. He had the fewest

(10:07):
minutes of any guys.

Speaker 5 (10:09):
I can't get seven minutes.

Speaker 4 (10:11):
I can't believe the bench guys that played all the
game didn't go middle of the fourth quarter and say, hey,
you gotta take me out. I haven't played this much. Exhausted.
You gotta put the starters back in. I used to
play in twenty minutes.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
Come on, I get like six minutes if I'm lucky,
and at the end, if we're mopping up with the
other team, I get eight minut You can't play me
twenty minutes.

Speaker 5 (10:30):
Can't throw me out. I'm exhausted.

Speaker 4 (10:31):
You had eight bench guys get at least twelve minutes
of playing time today eight and then the ninth was
okik that really seven?

Speaker 1 (10:39):
I can't but look, but this is part of because
you think about this, right, going back to what we
talked about I'll talk to the last few weeks, is that
as entertaining and fun as the NBA playoffs are, there's
all kinds of drama. You got the NBA now apologizing
for miscalls or fouls to the Lakers, to the Pistons.

Speaker 5 (10:53):
Right, for all this going on, what do I say?

Speaker 1 (10:56):
I don't know that anything is going to stop Cavaliers
or the Celtics against the Thunder in the NBA Finals.
And clearly this is what's going on. Look at all
these other teams that are having some level of difficulty
in their first round play and here are the Cavaliers. Yeah,
we're not even breaking a sweat and we're gonna win
this in four. We're go the last two games by
a combined eighty five points. Yeah, okay, just again, this

(11:18):
is how good the Cavaliers, the Thunder and the Celtics
on in this one piece of analysis. What's that Wolves
are the best? O? Hey at this point, at this point,
I would be surprised if it's Frostburg would hit me
over the head.

Speaker 5 (11:35):
So I'm not gonna say it.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
Yeah, don't do it.

Speaker 5 (11:37):
Frostburg would hit me over the head with turely, he
would hit me. Save that for hour from Yeah, okay, okay,
just making sure, just make it ben, I.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
Mean he might be a little tired. Yeah, you might be.
I have him off his game and you can slip
one that's going.

Speaker 5 (11:47):
Just just making sure.

Speaker 4 (11:49):
Yeah, but I'll document it all once you actually do that. Yeah,
I mean, just does I mean we'd go viral.

Speaker 5 (11:55):
I mean you see you.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
See that the struggle that even it's a three to
one series that the Knicks having with the with the Pistons, right,
the struggle with the Nuggets and the Clippers and every
other series even this this Rockets Warriors series is still everything.

Speaker 5 (12:09):
Is knocked down. The first round of the playoffs is
knock down, drag out.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
This is no longer. Hey, we're up against the team
we're gonna beat in the first round. We really we're
just gonna go.

Speaker 4 (12:18):
You know, we're gonna play at a pretty good pace
and then we really get things going in the conference.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
Semis right this way said, No, this is where every
year is. You have to it's a knockdown, drag out
brawl just to get to the second round. Except look
at what these teams are doing. Right, and again this
shows you just how good these three teams are. It's incredible.
I mean, I don't know what it's a it's a
complete and total upside. If we're not talking Thunder Calves

(12:43):
or Thunder Celtics in the NBA finals, that's it.

Speaker 4 (12:45):
Well, as a man who loves chaos between the white lines,
I really hope to hell something crazy happening.

Speaker 5 (12:50):
Oh I hope you're right. I want it to man.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
I want nick Lakers and we come on, who wasn't
want that? I mean, just you know, Adam Silver just
petting a white games there first.

Speaker 4 (12:59):
The no ball has to survive there a couple of
seconds in hell Frossburg.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
Who's who's who's winning three to one and who's who's down?

Speaker 5 (13:07):
Three one?

Speaker 4 (13:07):
Got the Wolves where we want one game at a time. Oh,
I'm sorry, is Doc Rivers coaching the Wolves? Because if
it is, you're right, You're absolutely right three one, You're
absolutely could be.

Speaker 5 (13:18):
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Speaker 5 (13:40):
So while the heater in.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
The process of covering up their logos so no one
even knows they have a team. After this incredibly embarrassing
exhibition of past.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
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Speaker 4 (14:00):
Nicks and the Pistons. It is a nip tuck game.
Midway through the fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
Well, don't worry, we'll get to Jannis in a minute,
don't We'll get to Jannis in a minute. Five minutes
to go in the fourth quarter. If you like offense,
this is not your game.

Speaker 4 (14:15):
Nine to the nineties though. Yeah, okay, even in the
nineteen nineties, even scores get into barely into the nineties.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Right, good, five, we might get we might get to
the hunt. We may not get ten more points the
rest of this.

Speaker 4 (14:26):
Not everybody can be the Cleveland Cavaliers, and in a
model of efficiency.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
Time out on the floor, Pistons lead the Knicks ninety
one to ninety. Again, this is not one of those
games you're gonna say, wow, man, I'll tell you doctor Nasmer.

Speaker 4 (14:42):
That it right.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
But but it's a close game and we're down in
the last five minutes.

Speaker 5 (14:47):
That's it what you want.

Speaker 4 (14:48):
So it meets the definition of a good game in
today's NBA.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
Now, you know, I really want to talk about this
when I say that's enough about the Knicks for now. Okay,
that's enough about the Knicks for now, because coming into tonight,
right with the with the Bucks down three to one
to the Indiana Pacers, and all the talk of Giannice
is leaving, Giannice is gone. Certainly it doesn't look great
for the Bucks future because Damian Lillard now might be
out for all of next year as well, with the

(15:13):
Achilles tare coming back from. You feel so bad for
the guy because coming back from where he was and
not getting to a you know, quote real contending team
intil late in his career. So yeah, okay, yeah, things
are gonna be a little difficult, right, Things are gonna
be a little tough. Uh, Jannie's future. Okay, but I
always thought, you know what, he's not gonna leave now.
He's not gonna force a trade. He's got a contract
for another three or four, you know, three more years.

(15:34):
And Okay, it's gonna be an offseason where the Bucks
have to say, okay, once again, we have to go
get somebody because we don't know if Damian Lillard's out.
But after this collapse, after this collapse of a seven
point lead in the final forty seconds to lose to
the Pacers, to get eliminated by turning the ball over

(15:54):
ridiculously badly twice in the final thirty five seconds, this
is where I say, yeah, if if it's like the
Bucks want Giannis to say, I'm out, I don't want
to stay. I can't stay here. If anything is gonna
push you on us out to say I need out.
I want to be dealt. I want to be traded.
What we saw tonight, that's what.

Speaker 4 (16:15):
When it fails spectacularly, you're going up against the heated
rival and there's a good debt we actually have. That
we can say with great confidence in the NBA because
normally the criticism is everybody gets along, everybody likes No,
these teams hate each other. So we knew we were
gonna get some fireworks as it goes out. And with

(16:36):
Lillard's injury opening the door to all right, they're gonna
go out easy. No they didn't, because they get out
to that thirty to thirteen lead that first quarter, a
blistering pays and like, all right, we got some fight
left in these Bucks for Doc Rivers down three three one, Hey,
he's got a chance. Down three one, yeah, up three one,

(16:57):
no chance, but down three one, yeah, look at the
bug at maybe maybe maybe he can push the right
buttons here, and instead we see this epic collapse in overtime,
you know, building the big lead and then a comedy
of errors followed by postgame fireworks in the celebration line
and chaos. But yeah, coming into this game, a lot

(17:18):
of the it seem fata complete. Uh, and you start
running the math and doing the numbers as to how
you work everything going forward that they're just in a
no win situation to try to augment this roster around
Yannis to where the best thing would seem to be

(17:38):
to cut ties and hit a massive reset button. And
obviously Frostburg is already trying to order his Giannis Lakers jersey.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
No, no, no, you know you've are You've already and
you already made the jiff with Giannis as a Laker.
You send it to me today.

Speaker 4 (17:54):
A couple I already texted shocked and let him use
his jersey number.

Speaker 5 (17:59):
Yeah, I hope you full.

Speaker 4 (18:00):
Lawrence Taylor and says he can't can't wear it, can't
wear Uh.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
Look, I mean you blow a seven point lead with
forty seconds left to go, I mean really special stack,
I mean you had you had misfree throws, you had
two turnovers.

Speaker 5 (18:12):
This is bad.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
And look, I've always want to say, hey, keep your
superstar stay. You're the number one. You want a title there,
but you know what, You've maxed out. Man, Giannis has
maxed out in Milwaukee. Milwaukee has turned into a mess.
They're a mess because they made changes they thought was
gonna result in a championship team. Now you're without Damian Lillard,
who's gonna be gone for you know, most of next year.

(18:35):
Who knows when he comes back, Who knows what the
team is gonna be. Yeah, you wonder everything you can.
But if you're Yiannis, you're like, am I really gonna win?
If I stay? He's got to get to that point
in his career. You mentioned Shack, where Shaq got to
where he said, you know what, I've been having fun.
I've been a dominant player, but I know I want
my legacy to be cemented. I don't want to be
one of those Oh yeah, he won a championship. No, no,

(18:56):
I know.

Speaker 4 (18:56):
So I'm going to the Lakers and look one four
champion chips, right when three at the Lakers, one with
the Miami Heat. And of all the players in the
history of the game, Shack's legacy maybe is the most secure.
And Yiannis has to get to that point too, right,
Kevin Durant did the same thing. Hey, I was in
Oklahoma City. We made it close, we made it to
the finals. Once got boat raced, I have to go.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
I know, I want my legacy to be something that
is that is better than what it is right now.
So he goes to the Golden State Warriors. They win
a couple of titles, probably would have won a third
if he didn't blow out his achilles, and so, yeah,
I went and secured my legacy, no matter what I
did it. Jannis has to get to that point too.
And look, I'm not saying, oh, hey, Milwaukee is off
of but you had a great run with him, and

(19:38):
you got to the top of the mountain and you
won a title a couple of years ago, and it
was a tremendous accomplishment. But Jannis has to look at
this and say, I'm thirty years old. I've seen the
best part of my career. I don't know how many
more peak years I have left, maybe four or five.
He's a bigger player, obviously, being six eleven and two fifty,
So how many more years does he have until is skill?

(20:00):
Because you know, skills a road on big men much earlier.
How many more years do I have Can I wait
two more years in Milwaukee to try to figure this
out two of my last peak four years, or do
I need to go someplace else? And the answer is,
especially after this, you know, and I'm saying no, you can.
You can be emotional, you can say I want out,
I'm done. It's not working here. We're going in the

(20:21):
wrong direction. And this should be the exclamation point that
if your Janisa tells you this is when I knew
I had to leave. If anything was at the end
where if I was questioning myself, do I do it?

Speaker 5 (20:31):
Do I not? I don't know.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
Losing this game like this, with the with the mistakes
at the end of the game, this is what tells you, okay,
you know what. This is the last straw. This pushes
me over the top. Giannis needs to ask out. There
needs to be a big, big looking into this this offseason.
How do we move on?

Speaker 5 (20:46):
Where do we move on?

Speaker 4 (20:47):
Hers to could be the Lakers, right, could be the Knicks.
You know, I mean you don't think he wants to
team up with Luca Yeah, oh of course, of course,
but maybe straight up for mcl bridges. You know, that
could work because you also have to convince Luca that
he wants to stay to Yeah, well Luca just gave
five granted, you know, I get to pay for Coke
to redo Kobe's muau in downtown LA. I think he's staying.
I really just want to do. I think it's a
wrench into all of this. Say that. You know that's

(21:09):
not a guarantee, but this.

Speaker 5 (21:10):
You have to.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
I mean, this is where if you're Yannis and you say, Okay,
this is my legacy, my career. We've got to the top.
We had great times. It was an awesome run and
we won a title, but it's just not happening in
the next four years are gonna be the best four
years I have and I gotta be someplace where I
can win. I keep going out in the first round.
That keeps being different iterations of the team. Oh we're

(21:31):
gonna do this instead, we're gonna make a trade, We're
gonna trade this guy here, We're gonna go get Dami Illworth.
And none of it is worked. None of it is
getting you out of the first round. None's getting you
any closer to a title. If you're Yannis in the offseason,
you have to say, hey, let's be let's do this
really well. Let's do this very I'm not gonna throw
you guys under the bus. Let's not do do this
in the in the press. But hey, let's make this
amicable as we can move me. I need you to

(21:53):
move me. Don't make it bad because I'll make it bad.
Because if you say no, I'll make it bad. Because
we know the NBA is a star driven league. Stars
get what they want right you can. Hey, I'm just
gonna hold my breath and pout. We watched James Harden
happen to him, It happens to all bunch of guys.
But if I'm honest, I say, look, let's keep this amicable.
I really need a new start. I need to go
somewhere else. If you make it bad, I can make

(22:14):
it bad. But let's go. Let's do this amicably. And
the Bucks you had your chance, you had your time.
It's not getting any better. You need to move on
and Yis Yannis should be on another team for the
beginning of next year.

Speaker 4 (22:27):
Had their championship win, then you lose in the Eastern
Conference semi final, and now you got three straight first
round losses, so you probably excise the coach and doc
Rivers moves into whatever the next phase of his career is.
But from a roster perspective, you're you're cash strapped. You
made the move to get Lillard, uh and you brought

(22:48):
in Kuzma, who had a big deal. All all of
that to say, moving forward for Yiannis, even with these
gaudy numbers, I mean, statistically just really one of the
uh more rediculous series. You see thirty three fifteen point four,
six point six assists per game, shot sixty one percent
from the field, go on the line, and you're not

(23:11):
nowhere near enough against the Pacers, a good but not
great team, And that should be the thing that gets
underscored here. It's not that you went and lost to
what looks like a juggernaut and a deep squad in Cleveland,
or you know, a squad that's assembled that he's to say, wow,
we probably didn't have a punch of chance. No. Here,

(23:32):
you got eliminated pretty quickly, and obviously between Lillard's illness
and now this injury, you didn't have.

Speaker 5 (23:40):
The full.

Speaker 4 (23:43):
Workload and anticipation of what this series could be. But
you don't have that going forward while you're still committed
to that money on the books, so you're hamstrung in
terms of the moves you can make to make this
any better. So for Giannis, yeah, Shack is don't for
two things, right, He's he was still the big shactice
in all of those things, and it was a vagabond

(24:06):
the final years of his career, the time he's in Cleveland,
that he's in Boston, all of and you know, Phoenix,
all of those things. You don't want to become that
guy because that does take away from some of those titles.
But but your point is still well taken, is that
you're still in the prime of your career if you're Giannis,

(24:26):
so sputtering to first round exits year after year is
certainly not how you anticipate the rest of your career going.
Loyalty is great to a point.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
Yeah, I mean, and you can't fault him for the look.
I stayed, and then after we won a couple of
years later, I kept staying. I said, Okay, you went
out and got played, Okay, but it just hasn't work.

Speaker 5 (24:48):
This is nobody's fault, right.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
I thought when they got Damian Lillard, the Bucks are
going to run the East for the next three or
four years.

Speaker 4 (24:54):
We talked about it even been waiting for it's the playoffs,
that they were potentially a dangerous team if things broke right,
and quite clearly everything that could go wrong did.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
Yeah, I mean, I can't fault them. They went out
and got the best player they could to beat Jannis's
one A and it just hasn't worked. And you can't
tell you, honest, what if we get your new coach? No,
you tried that a couple of times already didn't work. Well, okay,
didn't work.

Speaker 4 (25:19):
Can't tell me Janie's Jannis didn't have an invisible hand
in some of that movement is well.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
Of course, but but there's nothing you can say if
you're Milwaukee that's going to convince him to say, yes,
I'm going to buy and to stay. Who are we
gonna get? I don't know what's the deal with Damian Lillard?
I don't know. Are we gonna get out of the
first round? That's our goal? Okay?

Speaker 5 (25:37):
Not enough? Not good enough?

Speaker 4 (25:38):
Right? That can't be the goal? No, he needs and
that's the Knicks goal. Yeah, this could, This should be Yannis.
Where Yannis gets traded should be the number one topic
of conversation once the NBA Finals, And where is he
going to end up? How are they going to facilitate
this deal? How does it happen?

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Different sources, reports from shams or anybody else over the court,
you know, the month. This is what it should be
because really, and then you're throwing in guys like Embid
who probably should be on the trading block too. Other
big players are gonna be out there, but this should
be the Yannis offseason because you know, he's signed for
the next few years, so okay, And that helps a
team because they know what they're paying for him, so

(26:18):
it's not like, well, we don't know, we gotta pay no, no,
you know we can make a great trade because you
know you got them for the next three years.

Speaker 5 (26:23):
You can give us these assets.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
This is how we can make it work in Milwaukee,
because it's it's just it's done.

Speaker 5 (26:29):
It's hit. Its it's hit.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
Its natural conclusion is the best is the best way
to look at it is that sometimes endings are abrupt,
Sometimes endings are pushed by one side, maybe it ends
too early, maybe it ends too late, but sometimes things
just end. And this is a natural conclusion. This is
a natural end of this relationship.

Speaker 4 (26:45):
Well and it's got the much longer tail than perhaps
it even should have. Right when we talk about coaching
changes and the number of times we've seen teams turned
the page on a coach the year after they've won
to Coach of the Year award, don't get that long
run here. Jannis gave them a four year launching pad

(27:07):
after a title. It's it's reached its natural endpoint because
now you're chasing other teams that have risen in conference
that aren't going anywhere anytime soon.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
When someone goes to college and freshman and graduates and
hasn't gotten better.

Speaker 4 (27:21):
Okay, so it's four you've had four years. You've had
four years. That's a good four years.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
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Speaker 1 (27:38):
Yes, we are absolutely well dressed hobos tonight, And no
question about why shouldn't we be well dressed hobos?

Speaker 5 (27:43):
Oh so we are.

Speaker 4 (27:43):
We're wearing slimming down clothes, rebooting the wardrobes. I mean
we'll be in suit and ties up in here before long.
No It's not that I'll quit before that, no way.
Oh yeah no no, no suit and ties. I thought
we'd just become the dapper guys radio or something since we're.

Speaker 5 (27:58):
Doing more video. No no, no, no, got.

Speaker 4 (28:01):
Powerful and attractive. Man, I mean, come on, do you
remember when Mike did that? Just when Yeah, the first day,
very first day, you wore a suit and tie. And
now I'm I'm wearing a T shirt and sweatpants I did. This?

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Is I dressing some I'm seventeen. We're fine, run radio,
It's all good. I haven't a warm pants since I
have a timeless look. Man, it's it's a baseball hat,
T shirt and sweatpants, or if I'm feeling dressing up,
running pants. So it depends on the day, depends on
the n sneakers. There's my other.

Speaker 4 (28:27):
How much running do you do in those running pants?

Speaker 5 (28:30):
Sorry? Sorry sorry?

Speaker 4 (28:31):
Or a hoodie so or a hoodie so so in
the winter it's hoodie, baseball hat, sweatpants slash running pants.

Speaker 5 (28:39):
Or when it's.

Speaker 4 (28:40):
Nicer out and well, you know, T shirt, sweatpants, running pants.

Speaker 5 (28:45):
That's it. That's a look. That's my look. You'll fight,
You'll fight.

Speaker 4 (28:47):
Picture boy, you look these things act I could see
the aging of time. But this looks like the same
t This is the same poison T shirt from when
you're seventeen and when you're twenty seven.

Speaker 5 (28:57):
Yeah. Man, it was great. It was oversized. Then it's
a little more snug now yeah.

Speaker 4 (29:01):
Yeah. I mean the eyes, you know, betray you a
little bit. And the fact that you don't have the
frow anymore. No, you know, it's timeless.

Speaker 5 (29:10):
I miss my hair. No, I gotta say I miss
my hair. I do. I do the one thing, one thing.

Speaker 4 (29:15):
I mean, your daughter did inherit from you?

Speaker 1 (29:17):
She did, Yeah, And I tell her that, And I say,
I say, when nobodys asked her where you get your hair?
Because of course when she has a real curly hair,
I said, tell him that I gave it to you.
That's what she would say, Like from when she was
three until she was seven, my daddy gave it to me.

Speaker 5 (29:28):
My daddy gave you.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
She says that that guy.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
Now she says, can we straighten my hair? I'm like,
you have no idea how many how many girls would
love to have your hair and have curly hair?

Speaker 4 (29:38):
Can? I like, Okay, it's gonna be as got that
with the coloration.

Speaker 5 (29:43):
Ah, okay, sure, right.

Speaker 4 (29:45):
Because you know that their their blonde hues are very
sought after.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
It's like people pay a lot out of a bottle
for that, I said, Zoe. Just wait, in a few years,
everybody's was saying, oh my goodness, your curly hair, how
much it stands in just but.

Speaker 5 (30:00):
I want to stray. Okay, okay. You know what you
can do is you can sell it.

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with the Rockets and the Warriors in a couple of minutes.
And boy was I right about this game?

Speaker 4 (30:28):
Lak Hey, you gotta call that one, didn't you. And
then of course coming up, we have the Lakers and
the Tea Wolves, the Lakers facing elimination. Yeah, Finny Smith
into the starting lineup.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
But this moment, gonna play you, this little play by
play here from something on social media. You're gonna see
and I want to warn you when you look at it.
It's gonna be really difficult to look at It's gonna
be it's it's hard. You're gonna see it from far away.
During tonight's Pirates game. A Pirates fan and you're seeing
reports that he fell from the the right field bleachers

(30:57):
twenty one feet and landed on the warning track. And
there's video of it from far away. There's some video
that's kind of zoomed in a little bit, but it's
not great quality. It's not known what happened where he is.
He was transported to the hospital. But here's what happened
on the play by play Pirates TV on the call
after the fan fell, and here's how they took care

(31:18):
of it.

Speaker 5 (31:18):
Somebody has fallen out of the stands.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
We need to pause here. I think everybody is just
now realizing what has happened. And I'm going to be
intentionally quiet here.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
So there was Pirates TV on the call and you
saw some of the players were praying for him, you know,
the fan.

Speaker 5 (31:48):
And the thing is, you hear the fan fell.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
The fan fell, And now I'm not saying anything more
than what it looked like that I saw. And when
you watch this, the fan there's a small railing in
front of him that comes up about probably about a
three foot railing three four foot railing, and it certainly
looks like when the play happens, he launches himself up,
holding onto the top of the railing, and he flips
over the top of the railing.

Speaker 5 (32:12):
Like that's what happened.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
He definitely launched himself up and flips over the top
of the railing. Now, whether he got excited and jumped
up because something happened, lost his balance, but the guy,
we don't know he was pushed or not anything else.
But the guy certainly goes up and looks like he
flips like like like he's doing a move like I
can flip. And who knows why he did. Maybe maybe

(32:34):
he had a bet with the guys that I can
make a flip here and I can hold on. And
he fell and he landed on the warning track. He
didn't land on his head. He landed kind of on
his shoulder straight down when then then his head there.
There's been no update on the guy, and of course
we're all hoping our best, but certainly it looks like
he's sort of for some reason, he leapt up and

(32:55):
again it's hard to see exactly why. But the up
and the flip. Is it something that got out of control?
Did he was he trying to do something? That's what
I don't know. But you know, you hear the report
that he fell and you look at it. That's what
you're going to see when you see the video.

Speaker 4 (33:09):
Yeah, you get the hit from McCutcheon and you know
the crowd reacting and then all of a sudden, it's
am I seeing what I when I think I'm seeing right?
And the flip as you say, twenty one feet is
the fall. The statement from the Pirates during the seventh inning,
and adult male fell from the right field bleachers onto
the field to play Pittsburgh Ems, as well as the

(33:29):
Pirates and Cubs athletic training teams and other PNC Park
personnel reacted, responded, immediately administered care. So he's gone to
Allegheny General Hospital and no further information at this time.
Bloodied up face to your point, you know, more of
the shoulder seemed to be the landing spot. But a
pretty terrifying moment. We see at times, foul balls, bats,

(33:53):
you know that that kind of stuff into the stands,
and they're always a question about netting, and then you
have a situation like this that begets a whole other
conversation about railings and protocols and safeties and trying to
figure out exactly what transpired here.

Speaker 5 (34:09):
Did he trip? Did he fall?

Speaker 4 (34:11):
Was it a dare? Was it? I mean, there's a
million questions that need to be answered.

Speaker 5 (34:15):
Exit.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
How about a fresca exit swollen dome? Jason Smith, Mi Carmen. Again,
as soon as we have an update on the fan,
we will bring it to you again. He was taken
to the hospital. The game was stopped while they took
him off the field. Again, no updates. The Pirates put
out a statement basically saying the same thing, as we
learned something more about him later on tonight we will
talk about it. But as you know, as we talk

(34:36):
about our business being sports, and I'll tell you about
what's going on and breaking things down, and we are
moments away from the Lakers and the Tea Wolves because
finally the Rockets and the Warriors game has ended. Yeah,
it was a long fourth quarter and I'll tell you
it was it was just giving you enough that, oh, hey,
maybe the Rockets are gonna give up this lead. No,

(34:58):
the Rockets hang on to win this game. Did I
call this last night or not? Did I say this
was a game We previewed both of these games tonight,
and I said, no, No, this is the Warriors. Don't
close it out. This is a game where the Warriors
understand we are a veteran team, we are up three
games to one, we are going into Houston. We are

(35:19):
not closing it out tonight. Houston's a good team. They're
They're going to have a couple of days to get
their heads right because you know, they realize that, Okay,
Draymond Green is in our heads the entire series, and
he is the one that is just crushing us. So
this was going to be a game. It was going
to be a kind of a get right game for
the Rockets. And you knew that the Warriors were going
to just kind of put up whatever resistance they could,

(35:42):
but you knew that it wasn't going to be a
great night. They were going to kind of put it
away and come back and go for the closer back
at home.

Speaker 4 (35:48):
And you saw in the first quarter. You saw the
you saw Jimmy buckets and Steph no points. Yeah, no,
Butler was terrible. You know, limited time, second half a
lot of minutes by the bench.

Speaker 5 (36:00):
Yeah, and that's what got him back in the game.

Speaker 4 (36:02):
I think, Steve kurb I think I think the Warriors
roster tome I had like twenty seven people on it. Yeah,
you know, really testing the boundaries. We've seen that a
couple of times in these playoffs. Like, I didn't realize
you could have that many active players. Yeah, just calling
up the next guy. Yeah, we're gonna sit in for
the rest of the game, So roll up another guy
from the bench, Steph Curry with a tough, tough game.

(36:23):
I saw this picture before and I show it to
you obviously radio audience. But is he hulking out? I mean,
look at what his thumb is doing. Yeah, Like, I
don't even know what what what that injury is, man,
Like it looks like he's got a bunion growing.

Speaker 5 (36:39):
His thoughts That a bunion on your thumb?

Speaker 4 (36:41):
YEA just giant not a lot of stuff, but a
rough game for the starters struggled mightily. Butler just two
of ten, Curry what was he four of thirteen? So
he started looking to Moody and Spencer and others from
the bench that tried to give him a little bit
of bump, but ultimately Houston gets right and wins and

(37:01):
blowout fashion mercifully, ending that one. As we get ready
to see, Uh, what do you got? JJ Reddick, Well,
I'm glad you said that.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
So this is just a few moments ago and obvious
this is going to play into the drama we're going
to see between the Lakers and the Tea Wolves. JJ
Reddick stormed out of his pregame press conference after he
got a question he didn't like and maybe he might
hate this person more than he hates me. Oh he

(37:31):
hates we know we played, we played the sound. I
don't care what Jason Smith has to say. Okay, he
may hate this person more than he hates me. JJ
Reddick ending his press conference because he got a question
that he just didn't like.

Speaker 6 (37:45):
As you watched the film, what do you recall about
your thought process in the moment sticking with the five
you stuck with in the fourth quarter the other day?
And is there an assistant or someone maybe that you'll
lean on tonight, maybe try to get you know, some
other guys involved if that opportunity presents.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
Are you saying that because I'm inexperienced and that was
an inexperienced decision that I made. Do you think I
don't talk to my assistance about substitutions every single time out?

Speaker 4 (38:14):
No?

Speaker 6 (38:15):
I just think there's a lot of coaches lean on
their assistance in those situations, as.

Speaker 5 (38:19):
Do every single time. That's a weird assumption that ended
the press conference.

Speaker 4 (38:27):
I'm out he's a think of the guy from a
local TV station, right that asked that question? Guy, he's
not getting any more exclusives?

Speaker 5 (38:37):
Is there a guy you lean on? Like?

Speaker 1 (38:39):
Is there a guy that is going to help you
not make that decision again? Uh? So that doesn't happen again.

Speaker 4 (38:46):
You were going through your thought process? Did Lebron tell
you to do that? I mean, that's really the only
other question he could have asked.

Speaker 5 (38:52):
Follow up?

Speaker 4 (38:53):
Yeah, you know Lebron's decision to just go with that five?
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (38:57):
Does he hate that guy more than he hates me?

Speaker 4 (38:59):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (38:59):
Absolutely?

Speaker 1 (39:00):
Oh yeah, Hey do we have that? Tysher grabbed the
audio of JJ Reddick not liking me. Let's compare it.

Speaker 4 (39:06):
Let let's let me know and you have we can play,
because yours is more dismissive, like you.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
Like, No, he really doesn't like me, He really doesn't
like me. But I don't know if this was just hey,
I'm gonna I'm gonna really, you know, fight, But he
did walk out of this press conference, though he walked
out of this one.

Speaker 5 (39:22):
I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (39:24):
We went at it quite a bit when when Reddick
got hired, and in the aftermath, and then some of
the early commentary, and then certainly the dismissiveness that he's
had towards media as a whole, with this latest one
being a great example.

Speaker 5 (39:38):
Yeah, yeah, sure, no, it might.

Speaker 4 (39:40):
Have not been the best phrased question you can have
about that. The second half decisions and certainly down the
stretch Lebron did. I mean, he could have gone and
taken some of the Lebron quotes and just throwing him
back at JJ Reddick and we weren't fatigued. Sure I
missed a bunch of point blank lamps. Sure Lebron chronicled
every miss that should have in an easy bucket. Well

(40:01):
you missed them. So what is the explanation? Ah, you
know you win something. You know that's a shot you
make ninety percent of the time when you know when
you have your legs underneath you.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
I'm just thinking of the postgame press comments where the
first question no matter what is going to be JJQ.
You talk about the thought process behind your rotation of
why the guys played the minutes they did.

Speaker 5 (40:20):
It's good. JJ just kind of aboutlied. Did the slide
away from the microphone?

Speaker 1 (40:24):
You ever think about playing all five year starters all
forty eight minutes? Like nobody going to the bench like
these guys. I mean, it's a big game right now,
like you need they need this right.

Speaker 4 (40:32):
It's upon a time no one Nichen would call his
style of basketball forty minutes of the hell can you
do forty eight?

Speaker 1 (40:40):
This is gonna be fun to night t Wolves out
to a four nothing lead over the Lakers. So let's
see we heard the JJ Reddick. Here was JJ Reddick
not being happy with me.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
There was a notion after the Luca trade that it's
coming from something on Twitter.

Speaker 5 (40:54):
I'm not gonna know, not at all.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
It is coming from from real people, from your general
manager among them, which was all this was about the
next ten Jason Smith one.

Speaker 5 (41:05):
I'm looking for.

Speaker 4 (41:06):
I just want to make sure.

Speaker 5 (41:07):
And he's listening to us. Hi hi, JJ, So I
don't know what do you think? Who does he? Who
does he.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
Yeah, that's my grinder account. Yeah, that's exactly exactly right there, Hinge. Also,
I'm on there too.

Speaker 5 (41:18):
Yeah, I'm all over the place. I mean, E Harmony.

Speaker 4 (41:20):
You gotta try all the different platforms and see which
one works for you best.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
You know, for the longest time, I thought e Harmony
was like an online greeting card company.

Speaker 4 (41:28):
I actually created it.

Speaker 5 (41:29):
Oh okay, that's good, Okay, all right, nice talk about me?
All right, good okay, good e Harmony.

Speaker 4 (41:33):
E Harmon know me the most soothing and mellow guy
you're ever gonna meet. E Harmon Jason Me. Yeah, I
love how you like act like this is all groundbreaking.
There's a very long line of people who hate you.

Speaker 5 (41:46):
I don't know that.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
Well, how would you say long, Like how like DMV
long or something else?

Speaker 4 (41:52):
Long? Like what do you know, like, oh, tawny bobblehead long.
Oh well, that's that's what's great, witless long. That's really because.

Speaker 5 (41:59):
Here's the thing.

Speaker 4 (42:00):
As as Frostburg was given that statement, it could have
gone one of two ways. People that hate you or
people that JJ Reddick hates. Because clearly he's got animals.

Speaker 5 (42:08):
He's got a list. Yeah, yeah, he's got a list.

Speaker 4 (42:10):
He's got a Jedi.

Speaker 5 (42:12):
His list is longer than Nixon's

Speaker 4 (42:15):
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