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May 10, 2025 • 52 mins

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
The Jason Smith Show with My best friend Mike Harmon
Live from the Tyrach dot com studios. The NBA night
is over mercifully. We saw a game that was out
of control very early and never got in control. The
t Wolves go on to even the series with the

(00:50):
Warriors one seventeen to ninety three. They got out to
a big lead early and they never looked back and
looked for a while it was Julius Randol and Joe
Nathan Kaminga where the leading scorers in this game? And
it was my goodness, and then it ended up with
Julius Randall and Jonathan Kaminga being the leading scores in
this game. Uh yeah, we could have seen like Nick's

(01:12):
off Day News. It might have been a better show
on TNT. But the t Wolves win this game, and
they even up the series at one game apiece, and
we're gonna hear Steve Kerr on Draymond Green coming up
at a minute, which is awesome. But I want to
tell you this first, right, I'll hit you with it
with a big Bowl prediction out of here. Every game
Steph Curry doesn't play the rest of this series, Minnesota
should win by double digits. There should be no game

(01:35):
even back in Golden State, even if Scott Foster is
cloned and they're all doing the games together and and
Chris Paul suddenly gets signed by the Timberwolves, Like, even
if that happens, it should still be a double digit
win for the t Wolves in every single game. In fact,
as long as Steph Curry doesn't play, the t Wolves
win every game. If Curry's out through Game four, game five,

(01:59):
this is an happening for the For the Warriors, it
was a great effort in Game one. I gave them
their flowers after Game one they lost Steph Curry. They
had a big lead and they were still able to
hold onto it. Buddy Heel turned into Superman and look
what happened. The t Wolves couldn't get their their their
their footing, and they wound up losing by more points.
And when Steph left the game, which really defied logic.

(02:21):
And after the game there was a lot of concern
is there is there any at odds between Chris Finch
and Edwards because Finch said I needed an Edwards to
step up and be a leader and Edwards said, nah,
I was fine. I played great defensively. All of a
sudden things were a mess. But with a day off,
with a way to recalibrate, the t Wolves come out
and win exactly how I thought they would win what

(02:42):
they should have done in game one. It wasn't close.
The Warriors don't have the firepower tonight. Buddy Healed a
much more pedestrian, a much more Buddy Healed, like fifteen
points he had those last two games. That was great,
the Buddy Healed games game Buddy Game seven. In game one,
Buddy Heald was so good. But this is how I
expect things to go, no matter how the officiating goes better.

(03:04):
What happens in game three, every game Steph Curry misses
the Tea Wolves should win. They should be in the
Western Conference Finals with absolutely zero difficulty.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
Game three, the Timberwolves are five point road favorites, So
we'll put a pin in that for a second. The
over under on your guy, little Buddy's points for today
right at fifteen plus or minus the half, depending on
which way you got on it. So you got that
going for you. We did have the anxious moment Anthony Edwards,

(03:36):
because you know, there's been a lot of talk of
how except for Steph Curry, it's been a great path
and everybody's getting their stuff done. It's like, well, hold
my beer, and we had the anxious moment. He goes back,
not putting a lot of weight on his leg and
eventually comes back, finishes with twenty points. But you get
great work from Alexander Walker off the bench. He finishes

(03:59):
with twenty. Luca Garza got into the game. It was
so laughable at the end, the IOWA favorite.

Speaker 4 (04:05):
In the game.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
It was so out of control, showing, wow, look what
you did that. I'm out of Lucas now.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
You just had to take that big swing at him
while you're at it though, But yeah, I mean you
didn't have that other player step up to give you
any kind of offensive juice to give the Haymakers back
to Minnesota, and that game got out of sorts in
short order. Right, We're looking at fifty six thirty nine

(04:32):
at the break, and that was only on the winging
a prayer of a couple of big shots, you know,
towards the end of shot clocks to make it so
So for the Timberwolves, you know, a game they were
able to maybe take a little bit off in the
second half, which which is key as well. Right, get
guys out of arm's way, something Steve Kerr talked about

(04:54):
as well as his comments on Draymond. So all of
that one one, we go back to the Bay and
see what we can come up with.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
So, you know, when I was when I was young
growing up in New York and Mike Tyson first burst
onto the scene right in the mid to late eighties,
and all his fights would last like thirty forty five
seconds because he would just crush everybody. And it was
a fun thing on the local news. They would say, hey,
you know, and you get like three minutes to do sports, right,
you get like three minutes to do It's like okay, hey,
And luckily, because of the way it was. We can

(05:22):
bring you highlight. We can bring you the entirety of
Mike Tyson's fight last night, right, and they would play
twenty eight seconds and it was over right because at
eighteen seconds he knocks the guy out and he wins.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
Right.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
That was kind of fun in that vein. We can
bring you the entirety of Draymond Green's post game tonight
following over his loss.

Speaker 5 (05:42):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Draymond was taken out of the game by Steve Kerr
because Steve Kerr didn't want to see him get any
more technicals. We'll hear from Steve Kerr in a minute
on this. He had a great sound by post game.
So he's taken out because you know, hey, we're getting
close to potential suspension for Draymond Green. But Draymond was asked, hey,
how do you feel about all these technicals and all
these flagrants and everything going on getting called against you?

(06:04):
And here is Draymond Green's statement.

Speaker 5 (06:06):
You look like the angry black man. I'm not an
angry black man. I'm a very successful, educated black man
with a great family, and I'm great at basketball. I'm
great at what I do to the a gender to
try to keep making me look like an angry black
man is crazy. I'm sick of it. Is ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
Woof wow, Wow that is absolutely loaded. Like that is loaded.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
Yeah, his the fall that ended up becoming the flagrant
and they're you know, getting him the drawing the ire
to where he was chasing the referee around was play
where he tried to sell that he'd been fouled. The
problem is in his follow through. He gets up around
the head and neck area of the defender, so you

(06:51):
immediately have other teammates stepping in and then you have
two minutes of him berating and all sorts of word
combinations we can't possibly try to emulate here on Fox
Sports Radio for fear of FCC licensure and our jobs.
But suffice to say, he did not say fertilizer. He

(07:11):
was saying other things along the way and screaming and
would start heading back towards the bench and then would
go back at the official. So it's not anything having
from where I said, anything having to do with race
other than Draymond Green doesn't like officials and he's giving
it getting his two cents.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
All right, let's hear it one more time and then
we'll break it down again. This is Draymond Green, the
entirety of his post game from earlier, from just a
few moments ago, Play one more time, look.

Speaker 5 (07:38):
Like the angry black man. I'm not an angry black man.
I'm a very successful, educated black man with a great family,
and I'm great at basketball. I'm great at what I
do to the gender. To try to keep making me
look like an angry black man is crazy. I'm sick
of it. Is ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Oh no, okay, what's ridiculous, Draymond? Is you saying this? Okay?
No one is questioning how great you are a basketball
No one's questioning you know, how you are, how successful
you are. No one's questioning how great your family is.
That's not you know. The games are broadcast and we
can see replays of what you do and how you
hit people and plays you make that have been on

(08:15):
the borderline for the better part of your entire career.
It's how you make your money. I get it. But
don't sit here and tell don't sit here and tell
me that, Oh, there's some kind of agenda out there.
An agenda would be, Hey, we're gonna preemptively whistle you
for stuff. No there's stuff that happens that you do
during a game because you get out of control. You
do get it. I'm sorry, but you get out of control.

(08:36):
It's how it goes. Does your reputation precede you, Yeah,
but that's for any player. It happens, right. No one's
questioning anything about that. But I see Draymond Green. There's
a guy that's responsible for plays that are on the line,
maybe over it of the vast majority of the time.
So to sit here and all of a sudden say,
I get he's frustrated, he feels like he's being picked on.
I'm sorry, don't play that way anymore. But then you

(08:58):
lose your effectiveness because playing the way you do is
what's given you the edge. Don't curse at the refs,
don't get in the ref's face when they want to
talk to you about different things. And I'm pretty sure
it's referees of all different races who he talks to
when he gets mad at So for this, I get
that he's mad. I get he's upset. I get he's frustrated.
I understand this, but wow, man, you want to take

(09:18):
this into a different direction that nobody is talking about.
No one is saying anything other than Draymond Green, here's suspensions,
here's this. I mean, I'll go back to Steve Kerr
saying Draymond's got to keep control of himself. I mean,
I don't think anybody's making anything up about Draymond Green
in this situation. But he wants to take this and
he's upset. And I get it. And we've seen the

(09:39):
strategy in this country the last few years, because hey,
no matter what something goes on, if I just come
out against it, I will have people having my back
on social media and it becomes a hole he said.
He said type situation. So I get it, and I
get that he's mad, but dude, come on, man, no
one is going to this at this level and make
it or make it a racial thing for you. Come on,
that's ridiculous. There's other players that get complained about all

(10:02):
the time. Let's go back Grace and Allen came into
the league and he was the dirtiest player in the
history of the game. Right Look at the guy was
tripping everybody in college getting to the NBA trip So
you know, yeah, I get that you're mad, but but
go somewhere different than this.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
I mean, come on, Yeah, if you're responding to someone
in particular, then then you got to call out the name,
You got to call out the venue.

Speaker 4 (10:22):
You gotta go.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
If it's just you know, the equivalent of the Jason
Smith one to what I forgot, whatever the number was
that JJ Reddick did, then then you know, cite that
or don't. But to just throw out a blanket thing
that that infuses the race part of it it And look,
I don't live a life where where folks are casting

(10:45):
that on me, and I haven't felt that. Maybe Draymond
certainly does. He's taken that out here. But how many
incidents have we seen on the court? How many technical falls,
how many suspensions near brawls, near fights? And Steve Kerr,
you know, has spoken on it many many times, and
certainly we'll hear from him in a moment. But it's

(11:08):
you play on the edge and it's part of the
greatness and sometimes you go over it. And in this case,
they decided that it was too egregious and then the
I don't know, put a stopwatch on it. How long
does he stalk the officials screaming before they finally get
him to the sideline we were on air, and we're
starting to talk about it. Steph Curry had to come

(11:29):
off the bench, limp and grab him and pull him
back towards the sideline, pull him away from the officials,
pull him away from the opponent, pull him back past
all the coaches, towards the back end of the bench.
They basically went to the giant camera that's at as
high a point as they possibly could to show, Hey,
Draymond's getting put all the way back over here because

(11:52):
he's been too loud and might get himself thrown out,
Get that extra technical, get one more towards suspension. It
was a well thought out discussion point of where he's
at on the continuum, and it had nothing to do
with raise, Like, here's just fact.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
He's playing again, he's playing against other black players, So
I don't say he's he's playing against other black players.
So wait, so it's racist that that's going on. It's
a race thing for you and you're playing. He's the
one making it racial. He's the only one making it racial.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
Yeah, it's it's exasperating because we we do have so
many issues as a society, as a as a country,
as a global populace. We don't need to invent more.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Nothing is invented. Nothing, nothing is again. We are a
read and react business in sports talk and sports talk radio, right, Hey,
lots of ideas, we have the things. Hey, we're gonna
do this, and we're gonna but we are in a
read and react business, and the games happen and we
react to them. Nothing is made up. There's no something hey,
that never happened in the game last night. No a
I put in that that you went and grabbed a

(12:58):
guy around the neck and knocked him to the ground. No,
that doesn't happen. We read and reacts. It's the playoffs.
The highlights are everywhere. Everybody gets to see it. All
the games are on television. I'm sorry, it's how it goes.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
Yeah, I think when we get down to it, we
have in the NBA and they've made up a lot
of awards, but at this point they don't have what
is it. It's the Lady Bing right, the Sportsmanship Award
in hockey.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
We don't have one of.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
Those for the NBA. And I gotta imagine Draymond ain't
winning that one.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
I don't know how you have the career that he
has and do what he does and say, yeah, Yeah,
that's what it is. That's what it is. I'm the victim. No, no,
yet not really.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
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Speaker 1 (13:52):
The Celtics are now down two. You've feared a lot
of different reasons behind it. What's going on the last
couple of days. If I said, do you feel the
blank Rick the Nix lead the Celtics two? Is it
because blank? What would you tell me?

Speaker 6 (14:05):
Because they are more prepared to play the physical style
of basketball that we're seeing in the postseason. I think
that they're comfortable playing with force. I think that force
is one of the reasons why you're seeing the Celtics
miss as many threes as they are, and even wide
open threes. I mean, for the most part, the shots

(14:25):
have been good, but I think that the physicality of
the game is taking their legs out a little bit,
and they're finding that with the physicality having you know,
the physicality is one going to stop finishes at the rim.
You get a little more contact, it's a little more
difficult to finish at the rim. And then if a

(14:47):
team is energetic and is willing to run guys off
the line, then it's and and they're going to meet
them at the rim. Then it comes down to your
mid range game. And the Knicks have a guy in
Jalen Brunson who shoots the mid range as well as
anybody in the league and can do it in a
variety of ways and under pressure. And conversely, the Celtics

(15:10):
have just been so so focused on either threes or
layups that I was looking at the numbers and Jason
Tatum nearly half of his shots this season were threes
and shot the fewest took the fewest shots at the
rim this season as he has in any of his

(15:32):
seven seasons in the league. So that's one of the
one of the elements here in the fourth quarter, I
checked the shot chart and I was just curious, and
Game two, in the mid range, the Boston Celtics were
zero for seven and the New York Knicks for six

(15:53):
for ten. That's where they're that's where they're winning this game.
They can once they can get the pace down and
they can make it a half court game. They can
get to their spots and score and Boston is not
nearly as comfortable playing that way.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
Rick, I'll tell you how strange these two games have been.
Jason issued a nationwide and global apology to Bridges based
on the ending of both of these games. That's how
big and monumentally shifting. This is like me and my
new White Sox loving pope. It's it's Smith apologizing to

(16:28):
the world for wanting to ship Bridges out of town.

Speaker 6 (16:31):
I yeah, I almost called in sick on this episode
because I wasn't sure if I was going to be
able to I was going to be able to handle
Jason and the outright floating that would be going that
would be going on. You know, you know you're in
a really happy place when you are running the show

(16:52):
and you're issuing apologies at the same time. That is
that is very strong. That's very strong.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
Well, well listen, because I and I know you know
you you could have called him said here, but you
sat next to Paul Pierce when he said on speak
a day, oh god, hey if the Celtics game to
walk to work the next day, and he sort of
walked to work today, Rick, what was that like?

Speaker 4 (17:13):
Man?

Speaker 6 (17:14):
We we we tried to stop him. The best part.
Quite honestly, the best part of it all was we
were on a tech string while that game was going
on last night, and so we had like we had
like why reaction. Paul at one time texted us and
he said, you're never gonna see me again. I'm just

(17:39):
going And then I texted, I said, you know what,
we need to alert the authorities because if they see
Paul wandering around barefoot in a bathrobe, they're gonna think
he's been eating bath salts and they're gonna have n't
we got to look out for him. So yeah, look,
I mean, I I'm really happy that he did that

(18:00):
because he gave me cover because I was just confident
about myself. He was. I just wasn't making ridiculous, ridiculous claims.
But you know, it's it's it's really interesting how this
physicality in the game. I mean, we saw it ratchet
up in last year's playoffs, but I don't think it's
ever been like this in oh maybe twenty twenty five years.

(18:25):
And I think it's why the games have been so
good and entertaining and relatively close, because the players are
now able to play, and they're allowed and they're able
to show their emotion and they're able to get after it,
and you have to earn your buckets. It's not you know,
stopping every five minutes to look at a replay to
send somebody to the free throw lines. There's a lot

(18:46):
more natural flow to the game. So I'm loving that.
But in looking at teams going into the playoffs and
looking at how they matched up in typical matchups like there's, there's,
it does change the dynamic, it does change the game,
and a team like New York is much more formidable

(19:12):
playing this style than they were during the regular season,
obviously against the Boston Celtics, who just you know, ran
away with games. None of those games were close, and
but but this is a different game, and and right now,
the Knicks are more suited for it, and I don't
think that's I don't think that's going to change. Celtics

(19:32):
might shoot the three a little bit better, but if
you look at the at the the width and breath
of the season, the Knicks and the Celtics are are
just about dead. Even when it comes to three point
shooting percentage. They shoot it just about as well, and
they have as many guys who can shoot it well.
The only difference is that Boston shoots more of them.

(19:53):
So if you can limit the number of shots that
you that they take, then you or or they're just
missing a ton of them, that that evens the scales.
And then it goes to who has an advantage in
other places, And and I think that the Knick's just
by value of because they think we've seen at the
end of games, like everybody knows the Nicks, know how

(20:15):
they're going to play, they know who their go to
guy is, they know where he wants to operate from,
so everybody can work off of that with a sense
of understanding. The Boston Celtics don't know where Jason Tatum's
going to shoot the ball, if he's going to shoot
the ball, and and so it leaves them uncertain in
these nip and tuck games, and most playoff games come

(20:35):
down to that.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
Rick, let's go to the Cavaliers and the Pacers. Calves
get the Oh, here's your apology on official letterhead about
lane violations. That might be the only win they get
the series at this point.

Speaker 6 (20:50):
Yeah, it's you know, I was I was sleeping on
the paces because I watched them earlier in the year
and kind of through the course of the year, and
they didn't looked that much different than the team that
I saw in in the playoffs last year, which I
just thought was a crazy kind of running, gun up
and down team that got of got favorable matchups, ran

(21:13):
into a next team that was already already beaten up
and you know, just basically broke down because of the
pace that the Pacers played, and uh and then got
swept by by the Celtics, and so I really wasn't
expecting that much. And then whatever whatever reason, Andrew never
Nemhart becomes like Superman in the postseason. Aaron Smith. Aaron

(21:35):
Smith is is legit. I mean, if you look at
if you look at Nemhart's numbers like he is, his
numbers are crazy high compared to what he does in
the regular season. That's usually not the case in playoffs.
Aaron Ne Smith has taken a nice step. Benedict Matherin,
I've always liked uh Ty Halliburton got the you know,
the rocket booster of his peers. Saying that he's the

(21:58):
most overrated player in the league has really juiced him up.
And and they got a sneaky pick up in Thomas
Bryant from Miami mid season. That's given them just enough size,
uh to be able to battle and not be you know,
a little apputian when when Myles Turner goes to the
bench so uh. And then Rick Carlo is actually coaching
this team this year, it looks like a Rick Carlisle

(22:20):
coach team. They're they're defending their executing on offense, and honestly,
I think that I would not be the least bit
surprised if we see Pacers Nicks and uh, and I
think that that's going to be a real battle. I
think that could easily go seven games to decide who
goes to the finals or in next.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
Week because we owe them, like like I'm thinking, I'm
thinking that the crowd, the Knicks fans a TD guardless
Jet Nixon for that's the next round too, Rick Nixon.

Speaker 5 (22:48):
Four.

Speaker 6 (22:49):
This is why I almost called in right that, right
there is.

Speaker 5 (23:00):
A four.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
You know, four is a big number. We just watched
the t Wolves beat the Warriors even that series up
at one game at piece and Steph Curry says, hey,
gonna be out through game four. I'm you know, I've
never had this injury before where we're being smart with it.
Rick I have a hard time believing that if the
if the Warriors are down to one, I expect them
to be down to one because this Timberwolves team is
better than the Warriors. When the Warriors don't have Steph.

(23:21):
I have a hard time believing if they're down to one,
with the possibility of them going down three to one,
he's not playing in Game four.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
It is.

Speaker 6 (23:29):
It is a tricky thing, and I I mean, I
see that, but I also because his mobility and his
quick movement is so vital to his game. I also
don't like how demoralizing would it be if you trot
him out there and then the first five minutes he

(23:49):
makes a move and he pulls it and he's done.
Like I think that's where they have to be really
careful with something like that. And we were having a
debate on morning show in the green room about where
he grabbed his hand string, because the football guys on
the show were saying, if you grab it high, it's

(24:12):
not as bad as if you grab it sort of
in the middle of the back of your thigh. And
I thought I saw him grab it in the middle,
and so even if it's maybe you know, a first degree,
I just looked with the way he has to play
to be effective, I would lean toward them not pushing
it as opposed to trying to get him out there

(24:35):
if he's if he's at all compromised, because he's either
going to make it worse, which at thirty seven, I
don't know that you want to create a hamstring problem
for yourself long term, and I just don't know how
effective he would be if he's at all compromised.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
He's on Twitter at Rick Buker, That is at Rick Buker.
Check him out tomorrow morning, Rick, you'll be on with
Paul Pierce. Are you gonna walk to work tomorrow? Are
you just you're gonna hear? Take a car and and everything.

Speaker 6 (25:09):
I'm staying in Manhattan Beach. I don't have my driver.
Patrick out there bright and early, ready to go.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
Well played.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
Check out the On the Ball podcast as well with
Rick an hour and a half talks about the shot
selection of Jalen Brunson. Ricks always buddy appreciated and congratulations
again to your daughter all the best man. That's fantastic
you brother. All right, there goes Rick Buker. I think
he's all nervous. When I said I think it's the
wrong move, and he's like, Okay, what are you gonna say?

(25:41):
The hell are you gonna say?

Speaker 3 (25:42):
Man, Well, there's always that fear that you might have
done a snippet of research and.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
Found that one hankle.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
It's like, oh, we didn't have that, hey man, potential
for chaos in this universe. But no, we appreciate Rick
all the relationships we have with our our guests and
friends of the show. It's it's Rick rolls with the
punches and even just saying I thought about calling out Sick.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
I mean, he's not kidding, by the way, He's not.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
He was I have no doubt.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
I bet as soon as the Knicks won last night,
he was like, uh, he was more of a game
time decision than Steph Curry. But as always, thanks to
Rick for stopping by with us. Awesome. I liked you
got the Rick rolled in there. That was very nice.

Speaker 7 (26:23):
Harmon.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
I liked that well.

Speaker 4 (26:25):
You know.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
He has Fox Sports Radio MLB Network Insider extraordinaire. He
is the Pope John Paul Morosi, who John Paul, Welcome
to the show once again. As always, I have a
question for you. My Internet is down currently and I
know I'm putting you on the screen. Goo who won
the Knicks Piston series? I can't find that.

Speaker 7 (26:58):
Evening, Hi, buddy, that uh with with me and the building.
The Pistons were un defeated, so evidently I should have
gone to all the games. Now, I would also flip
it around and say, Jason and to New York Knicks
fans everywhere, you're welcome, because the Knicks have not lost

(27:18):
since we had our conversation on the show one night ago,
or one week ago, this very night, they have They
have not lost since the the MSG security guards were
very much on their game and decided to throw me
out of the building.

Speaker 8 (27:32):
And uh so ever since then, the Knicks have adopted
their tenacity and and now I think that's the reason
why they won Game one.

Speaker 7 (27:43):
By the way, it was amazing. I'm speaking to you
from New Jersey. Of course, we're here covering the Yankees
and Padres this week, and so I was driving to
the ballpark yesterday. Let's just say that there was not
a majority of New Yorkers who bel leave that they
would prevail in Game one, just based on my my

(28:04):
little driving around listening to talk radio here, listening to
the callers gauging it was not exactly an an all
for one, one for all idea that they were they
were about to go up to Boston and and and
take on the parquet floor and defeat the defense, the
defending world champions. And yet they did it. And so
basically now I'm sure the attitude is, well, of course, hey,

(28:28):
we had we believed in you all along. Next venue,
you're going to do it. So it is definitely interesting
for me to ride the waves of the New York
fan as a bit of a as a bit of
an outside observer, who is who has joined join the
flocks for at least this week.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
Oh no, Look if I was back in New York
where I grew up, and I'd be on the radio
call and go, okay, so we got a fire tips,
we got to get rid of bridges. He stinks, we
got to make these change. I'd make the changes right
now because we know we ain't beating the Celtics. I'll
hang up.

Speaker 7 (28:54):
They were advocating for the dismissal of the code before
the series.

Speaker 5 (29:04):
That is.

Speaker 8 (29:05):
I listened to this and I said, wow.

Speaker 6 (29:08):
I am.

Speaker 7 (29:08):
I am now a very place they had to even
say it just beating the Pistons in a fairly, you know,
fairly highly contested series. And the whole idea was was, oh, well,
are we gonna fire a cipoo? And I've been like, guys,
let him play game one, like, let him, let him
at least have the opening tip before we start firing

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the guy.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
Come on.

Speaker 8 (29:29):
Well, so it was.

Speaker 7 (29:31):
It was an interesting insight for me.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
I would say, welcome to New York. But you had
a very curve. You had a very un New York
moment last night because you know, you did the Yankees
game with it with the padres and all the rain
that came down. I watched your postgame interview with Manny
Machado where you interviewed him while you held an umbrella
over Manny Michado's had not over your own head, John
Paul Morosi, but you looked out for your fellow man

(29:55):
holding an umbrella over Manny Michado's had that as a
very very nice thing to do.

Speaker 5 (30:00):
Well.

Speaker 7 (30:00):
I appreciate that. The funny thing is that at the
beginning of the interview I said to Manny. I said, Manny,
I'm sorry that I'm short. I'm gonna have to sort
of extend my arm about as high as it goes
to be able to get this over your head. He
was like, he laughed, but I think it's first of all,
how about this, I've got a credit the one and
only Susan Waldman. That was actually Susan's umbrella. So we

(30:21):
were we were down at the so the rain was
pouring down. Susan was there had the Yankees prevailed, and
we were standing next to each other and Susan said, well,
I'm not going to go into the field because the
Podreys once So do you want the umbrella that for
your you know, for your on field. I said, well sure, Susan,
thank you. I appreciate that. So I'll get I'll get
it back to you in the press conference. So I

(30:42):
brought it out to the field that Susan's umbrella so big.
Thanks to Susan, and I interviewed Manny. I think as
I watched it back later on that night, I realized
you couldn't even see my face, which many would say
I've never looked better on TV. I mean, you can't
see my face that that's how indeed most would prefer
to see me on television and not having to see
my face, So I just hold the old the umbrella

(31:03):
up there interviewing Manny. There was quite a comeback by
the Padres that was I'm sure it warmed your Mets
loving heart to see the Yankees fall in such fashion.
And then I got the umbrella back to Susan and
the Yankees responded with a thorough victory tonight. So we'll
see what happens in the rubber game tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
Evening JP we talked about using the protective layer of
an umbrella to shield you from the storm. How soon
do we start seeing more fielders with you know, helmets
or other security purposes. After watching what Chase my dropped
of the White Sox did tonight in a ninth inning
that led to the White Sox downfall, I'm first.

Speaker 7 (31:40):
Of all, I feel bad for Chase, and there was
a replay after For those who have not yet seen it,
there was a pop up that just planked our man
Chase right on the top of the dome. There's just
there's no other way to describe it.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
I've not seen John Paul. It was Jose Conseco in
ninety three. Was the last time so somebody got hit
with a fly ball or a pop up and it
hit them in the head.

Speaker 7 (32:03):
It was. It was as much of a direct hit
of a pop up as you're probably gonna see a
major league game. It was even with ken Seko was
more of a glancing bloke. He was moving this. This
was Mike Drop was almost camped underneath it. It was
a fairly extraordinary moment. So I feel badly for Chase.
And there was a there was a moment after where

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you used where the camera goes in there and and
looks at his reaction to the play itself, and you
almost you could almost see on his face that he
was thinking, Yeah, this this replay is going to be
around for a while, and and you can just kind
of tell that he's having that thought. Of course, he
came over in the Garrett Crochet trade. I'm a big
fan of him. I think he's going to be a
good contact bat for the White Sox for a while.

(32:47):
But my goodness, that was that was not the kind
of contact he was looking for.

Speaker 8 (32:51):
And uh and by.

Speaker 7 (32:53):
The way, so speaking of speaking of I can't believe
I didn't bring this up earlier. Speaking of also was
listening to the to the F A N Post game
show a couple of days ago of Sunday Sunday and
and and there was literally a twelve year old called
up and demanded the removal of Aaron Boone as the
Yankees manager.

Speaker 8 (33:11):
And I said, to myself, you got twelve.

Speaker 7 (33:13):
Year old caught up and the host basically said, like,
do you even were you even alive when Joe Girardi
was the manager of this team, Like that wasn't that
long ago? Were you even alive when that happened? I
just I couldn't believe it. I had to I forgot
that earlier. That was That was one of my other
favorite New York moments, Like a middle schooler legit calling
up and saying that Boon should be dismissed. I just

(33:35):
I thought that was I did not mention this Aaron
the next day when I went in for the meeting
of a day by the way, it was a twelve
year old from from Suffer, New York, who thinks you
should be you should be let go. And I didn't.

Speaker 8 (33:48):
I didn't mention that.

Speaker 7 (33:48):
I just kind of let that go.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
Yeah, No, that was my son's best friend. He calls
the shows all the time. Yeah, is that a relative?

Speaker 3 (33:55):
Is that?

Speaker 1 (33:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (33:57):
Hey?

Speaker 1 (33:58):
Speaking of speaking of calling, you know, making predictions, wanting
things happen. Did I read this right in your in
your Twitter account? Did you do another interview where you
said how much you like the Mariners to make the postseason?
Did you did you do that again? Year fourteen in
a row? John Paul? Are you are you still that

(34:19):
bullish picking how much you like the Mariners for the playoffs?

Speaker 7 (34:23):
Well, if the question is did I say that today?
The better question is does this day end in why?
And if I and if I made this prediction this year,
the question is does the year begin somehow with the
number two? And if it does, then basically.

Speaker 6 (34:39):
Yeah, I've said it.

Speaker 7 (34:39):
I mean it's the year. It's to zero two five percent.
I said the marriage make the playoffs, and I might
actually be right. But can I can I tell you?
Can I tell you the team that's making me the
most worried right now about my pick?

Speaker 1 (34:52):
Okay? Good, so the.

Speaker 7 (34:54):
West Sacramento Athletics, My friend, they have got a good
thing going. Kurtz Wilson, Butler Rucker. If you don't know
these names, you better learn them. Soders from Langeliers. They've
got some guys that can hit now, pitching wise that
they're probably an arm short. But they had a walk
off went over the Mariners last night, and the A's

(35:17):
have me a little bit concerned. The Mariners pitching has
got me a little bit worried to Kirby Gilbert on
the injured list. But yes, I like what Edgar Martinez
has done as the hitting coach, so much so that
the Texas Rangers have now hired Brett Boone, who was
known as the Boone, to be their hitting coach. Now
they're basically all two thousand and one Mariners are now

(35:40):
up to be hitting coaches in Major League Baseball. So
Mark maclamore, Carlos g and Jaye Buner, we're coming for
you to get back on the field.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
I'm going to leave the legacy question since you mentioned
Boone there for a second. But we got big news
in Los Angeles right Clayton Gershaw's on the gumback trail,
but ta Oscar Hernandez goes to the il and now
we get the next coming of James Outman. The injuries
piling up and Dodgers still, you know, pacing through, but

(36:15):
got to be a bit concerning early May with the
number of guys that they've had cycle in and out
in the lineup.

Speaker 7 (36:20):
Yes, indeed outman back in, and you're right, best record
in the game. They still have, I think, fairly a
fairly clear path to do a playoff for the we
get with a good degree of certainty. But let's not
forget who leads the Los Angeles Dodgers and RBI, and
not by a little, by a lot after and Endez

(36:43):
leads the major leagues in fact thirty four RBI, which
is ten more than Tommy Edmond, who was number two,
by the way in this category. Otani has thirteen for
him this season. So, but Taoscar is the guy who
I think in a lot of ways makes this lineup go.
He gives protection for Freeman, he lengthens the lineup. He
is a natural run producer. There are not many bats

(37:05):
in the in the game now who have just different
plate appearances when there's a man in the scoring position, and
tai Oskar does the Threeman does the two. But I
think part of the reason why the Dodgers have been
so good lately is They've got both of them, and
now with only having Freddy, I mean only, of course,
they also have Otani's best at Edmund as well. But
I think ta Oscar is a massive, massive loss. He

(37:28):
is to the lineup. He is about as important as
probably right now anybody, with the exception of Freeman. That's again,
Otani's the reigning MVP. I got that, But the way
the lineup has set up this season, I think he
is the co most important player along with Freeman, and
this is a massive absence for the Dodger staff to
handle right now.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
All right, Lastly, John Paul, I want to ask you
you you you have turned forty one, forty two. How
old are you right now?

Speaker 6 (37:55):
Forty two?

Speaker 2 (37:55):
I think forty twenty three?

Speaker 7 (37:57):
Next week, I think I got I gotta get the county. Yes,
butts turn forty three and I'm already forgetting about it.

Speaker 8 (38:03):
I'm getting old, guys.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
Okay, So I asked you, guys, how old did you
feel today when you saw that Prince Fielder's son, Cecil
Fielder's grandson just hit his first minor league homer and
his first at bat. That now Cecil Fielder's grandson could
be on his way to the majors.

Speaker 7 (38:22):
Yeah, it is amazing. I remember so I covered Prince.
Prince played two years in Detroit twelve and thirteen, and
so Jaden and Haven were both around the ballpark fair
amount at that point. They were also around I covered
Prince a bit during his time in Milwaukee was around
the ballpark then too. So I've seen Jaden and Haven

(38:43):
since they were probably eight years old, seven, eight, nine
years old. So it is it's time is catching up
to me. Families are beginning to lap me, guys, my
years of covering the game. It used to be that.

Speaker 8 (38:59):
It used to be that I always thought it.

Speaker 7 (39:00):
Was unbelievable that when I was a kid growing up
that the teachers at at Little Saint John Elementary would
tell would tell the kid, I used to tell your
parents this, I told your aunt uncle this, And now
I'm covering players, I said, I used to talk to
your dad about this.

Speaker 8 (39:15):
And I'm I'm.

Speaker 7 (39:17):
Getting up there, guys, I'm not getting any younger. But
I tell you what, it's it's a lot of fun
to cover this game, and the families and the connections
generation the generation are a huge part of the reason why.
So I love that part of the game and certainly
wish the Felder family all the best. Prince was always
a wonderful guy to deal with, and I wish the
best for the next generation too.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
He's on Twitter at John Morosi, that is at John
Morossi the Pope John Paul Morosi. Check him out on
MLB Network. John Paul is always appreciated, and thank you
for being the NIXT Good luck charm.

Speaker 7 (39:48):
Yeah, I am. I know that Halliburton broke the hearts
of the Cabs.

Speaker 8 (39:53):
I mean, you guys have got me watching.

Speaker 7 (39:56):
More basketball in the last month than I had watched
it a long time before. So I'm back in the
NBA family. That feels pretty good.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
There.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
You go, tell you that we're bringing viewers to the NBA. Hey, Silver,
I think he's a John palmergre JP have a good goal.
Jaden Field, I mean really, Cecil Fielter's grand kid. I
just can't get over going. And he's twenty twenty. He's
not like, hey, he's seventeen. He's playing and you know what, no, no, no,
he's what like, hey, he has a couple of big years,

(40:26):
a couple of years. Heason the major dude.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
I mean, you open a pack of new baseball cards
and guys birthdays.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
You look on the back, it's like, oh seven, yeah,
oh seven, come on yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
Come on man. Be sure to catch live editions of
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Speaker 1 (40:51):
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and for Jay, what's happening about? How are you?

Speaker 4 (41:09):
Hey? What's going on?

Speaker 6 (41:10):
Gentlemen?

Speaker 1 (41:11):
Come on? The Knicks just won a huge games. Very
exciting here right now, very exciting.

Speaker 4 (41:15):
Yeah. She had Celtics minus eight and a half in
still quite as bit about forty five miss threes or
whatever the hell that was.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
But yeah, so I'm going out on a limb here.
You had the Celtics minus eight. I'm just saying you
had the Celtics minus eight and a half.

Speaker 4 (41:32):
Tho direct charge.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
All right, Well, hey, let's get to so to get
past a bad memory for you, we'll talk some football
here for the next little bit, and we'll stay away
from the Orioles because I know that's a thing too.
But uh yeah, but look, we finally get the decision
we thought was coming for a while. The Ravens part
ways with Justin Tucker. Now he's under allegations and investigation
for misbehavior with sixteen massage parlor massage therapists, and it's

(42:00):
been hanging over him in the team for a long time.
They draft a kicker in the sixth round. Okay, yesterday
John Harbaugh said, I hate any decision we make as
far as Justin goes. It's football relay, football related. They
put out a big statement today thanking him saying it's
football related, which honestly, it was really tone deaf. Jay
like that was that was so tone deaf.

Speaker 4 (42:21):
Yeah, look, they're clearly worried about their billionaire's money here, right,
this is all about be Bushati and uh, you know,
making sure that they get out of this contract cleanly.
And they you know, post tune first, save themselves the cap,
save themselves to cash. So they're going out of their
way to say, oh, there's other stuff going on that

(42:44):
pay that No mine, This was just a football decision,
and football players get cut for football decisions, and we're
gonna we're gonna cut him. We're going to designate it
for you know, lack of production and you know cap
and we're gonna go different direction, which they could have
done at any point this offseason. But yeah, it was

(43:06):
pretty repugnant statement by Eric Tacosta. It really sort of
defies credulity and it flies in the face of good
I guess anything related to them all compass. It's clear
they're in the business of winning and that's what they
care about above all else. But they've had a very

(43:28):
checkered past with issues of you know, violence and untoward
behavior to women and general sort of misconduct, and they're
at a really interesting point right now in regards to
all of that. And look, they were okay with Justin
fucking not being that good anymore, and they didn't bring

(43:48):
in anybody to compete with him while he was falling
apart the last two seasons, and they let him kick
through the playoffs and he finished on an up swing.
And if the Baltimore Banter doesn't do their reporting on him,
you know, maybe Justin Tucker at the worst case scenario
for him, he asked to take a little bit of
a pay cut or something like that, but I don't
even think that was in the cards, and they didn't
do any of that after the twenty twenty three season

(44:11):
when he started falling apart. So this is completely one
thousand percent related to everything going on off field, though,
although they're trying to pretend that they're not even aware
of that much of that stuff. It's a bad look.
It's pretty shameful. But am I surprised by it? No,

(44:31):
because this whole situation is shameful. I mean, you're to
tell me sixteen different women independently, not coming together as
a group, not all with one lawyer. They were being
contacted individually by the Baltimore bannerd investigating this, and so
many of them were telling the exact same stories that
it was mind boggling, and their lawyers were fine with it,

(44:53):
and Justin Tucker huffed and puffed and said a lot
of crap. But he hadn't suit anybody, He hasn't done it.
There's no defamations in lawsuit going to be anything. So yeah,
it's a sordid chapter here, and it ends what had
been one of the more remarkable careers in franchise history.

Speaker 3 (45:10):
Jason Lockerbore our guest Jason Smith Show with Me Mike
Armin here Fox Sports Radio at Jason Lockerbore where you
find him on Twitter, read them Washington Post here on
one O five seven of the fan in Baltimore. Out
here in Los Angeles, they're celebrating the early fixing I
guess of Matthew Stafford's contract final year for him, despite

(45:33):
what Sean McVay says should be a long fruitful agreement
in partnership or we start looking at draft choices in
twenty twenty six.

Speaker 4 (45:43):
I think internally there they think they could probably get
two more years out of them when this is all
said and done. At least that's what I've heard. And
because of that, they weren't going to invest heavy draft
capital in a quarterback this year. But next year. Do
I think they explore that with vigor? I do absolutely,

(46:07):
you know, and how many more years of Stafford really
want to play? And obviously, you know, what is his
injury situation like to the course of this year. But yeah,
I think they believe he's got at least two more years,
you know, or probably two years at the top of
this craft. And that's the window they're operating under right now,
and I like their chances to be a factor in

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the NFC again this year.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
It's hard, honestly, if I look back at last year,
Jay they were the second, but when we got to
the playoffs, they were the second best team in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (46:37):
Well, if it doesn't snow in Philadelphia, if it's not
freezing rain and snow where they're obviously a West Coast
basically dome team that doesn't get in that stuff. Much
like if they're not fumbling the ball, there's not ball
security issues, not ball security issues when the ball's being stripped,
but just handling routine things that they're not accustomed to.
I think they win that football game, and I think

(46:59):
they go to the er if that's a not as
much of a weather situation in Philadelphia. It's just a
super cold day, but it's not dealing with the elements.
I think they win that football game, and I think
they probably win the Super Bowl. So yeah, I take
them very seriously. I mean, you can still get them

(47:20):
plus one seventy right now to win the division. Like
I mean, Seattle solid to me. San Francisco is still
in decline. Arizona, I love their draft, but that's going
to take way more than that to close the gap.
And there there wee. Little quarterback runs out of gas
every year at Halloween. So it is what it is like. Yeah,
I think they've got the best coach in the division.

(47:40):
I think they get the best quarterback in the division.
I think they have the best defense in the division.
And they make a pretty compelling argument to me to
be a team that that might be able to hold
serve with Philadelphia, that might be able to serve with
I think Green Bays. And you know, I think Green

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Bay is a team to keep a real eye on
this year because Detroit's well, rain drain, and they're going
to play a brutal schedule and things got a little
different from them and they became the hunted and I
don't know about their quarterback in the postseason, and Chicago's
on the comm Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm sure you guys
are all fired up in YadA, YadA, YadA. But that's

(48:24):
a rookie head coach in the first year, and so well,
we'll see. I think they're improving, but I don't think
they are more talented than Green Bay. I don't think
they have a better coach than Green Bay. And you know,
Minnesota will see what they do with the second year
quarterback is really a rookie. I don't think they're winning
fourteen games. So yeah, I look at the Rams, I

(48:46):
look at Green Bay, I look at Philadelphia. Those are
the teams that stand up to me in that conference.

Speaker 3 (48:53):
So he's just deflated Jason because he's been trying to
put everything on me with the Bear's love and Ben
Jonson love and all of that stuff. San Francisco, do
they sort Rock parties contract out now or does that linger?
Obviously you got Kittle signed and taken care of, Yeah,
and now you move forward here.

Speaker 4 (49:16):
I look, the initial offer was really low. How that
process unfolds and how far they're willing to oftenly go,
I think there'll be a pretty decent expectation on the
team side that he does something that's decidedly team friendly
and that fits in the kind of contract structures that
they've always been basically a slave too, basically like they

(49:40):
have not been willing to budget all much in terms
of how they're going to pay their guarantees out and
the way they want those contracts written is Brock pretty
the guy that they throw it all asunder.

Speaker 5 (49:52):
For I.

Speaker 4 (49:55):
Tend to think not. I suppose they work something out
before the start of the season. But I think he's
you know, it's going to probably require him the budget
off of what a more sort of militant or hardline
ftance might be just given. I mean that a guy

(50:17):
like that, P'scott sicking sixty million dollars a year.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
He's on Twitter at Jason Locke and four that is
at Jason Locke and four Odyssey one oh five seven
the fan in Baltimore, Washington Post Jays always buddy, appreciated,
my friend. We'll talk to you next week. I have
a great one.

Speaker 4 (50:31):
Always my pleasure, gentlemen, Thank you. Thanks.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
Yeah, there he goes.

Speaker 6 (50:34):
You know.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
And the the thing about Justin Tucker, right, like, I
get that the Ravens wanted to wait and because there
was no reason not to write it's in the off season.
It's the same thing with Deshaun Watson offseason. Wait, get
the inform and nothing needs to happen. Everybody wants the
immediate justice, but wait, right, just say because then there's
plenty of time for it. But the fact that the
statement they put out today that they went over the

(50:56):
top with saying it's a football decision when it's not
a football decision, and they put out a written statement
thanking him for all the I'm like, ooh, that really
you need you need to do that. You cut the guy,
You just say you cut the guy. We've cut justin Tucker.
You have to move on that way because this this
tells me that, hey, we really don't want to address

(51:17):
what's going on and why this is a big deal.
Instead we want to just give him flowers on the
way out. When everybody knows you're not I'm like, okay,
you're not fooling anybody.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
That's anybody fans, the local media, mister Locke and for included.
They're not dumb, right, Like they recognize what's swirling in
the background. And yes, he had a bad year, right,
He missed five from fifty plus missed another three from
forty to forty nine, so he had a rough year.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
So you, yeah, you can hide behind the football reason.
But that's not the only reason. No, of course, and
right Jim deef to not say, you know, you have
to say, hey, you have to put out you just
have to say we're moving on where where we made
a movie? Kicker we cut, Justin Tucker, this is what's
going on. We'll answer Quie that that's all you have
to songline. You say it best when you say nothing

(52:05):
at all. Justin Tucker cut, that's it. Really, you look,
it looks so bad, it looks so tone deaf to
what's going on, and we're gonna ignore. And and again
Jay said, that's just a franchise that can't the one
franchise that can't be afford to look at things. Oh hey,
how are you handling this? But they've done that time
and again.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
Right go all the way back, I don't know to
one of their all time greats, and the way that
all gotta handle. You look at the Ray

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Lewis Lewis into Ray Rice, and I mean it's really
there's an run, ye
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