August 16, 2025 • 54 mins
Jason and Mike finally put the Mets out of their misery as Jason is officially out of supporting them for the rest of not only this season but maybe his lifetime... Plus, Jason Cole and Pete Fiutak join the guys!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
Step right up, Ben, sweep the Mets.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
I just kill yourself.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
The Mets are swinging in missing that ball. The other
team's home runs over the wall.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
This isn't entertaining anymore.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I would really like, you know, here's my favorite. I
ask for so little, right, I asked for so little here.
I would really like if the Mets are going to
lose this game right where where you know? They will
allowed five and the seventh to the Mariners. They're losing eleven,
nine and the ninth inning. If they're gonna lose, lose
before the Dodgers Padre starts. Okay, so I can have
a clean slate for the biggest baseball.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Series of the year.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
All right, I don't want to have this hanging If
you're gonna lose, I don't want it hanging over me
and have to worry about going back and forth everything
I like lose so I can go right to Padres Dodgers.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Well, I mean, you gotta have a little bit of
suffering in you gotta pay for your sins.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
What do you what do you think it's been all suffering?
What are you talking about.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
To Yeah, a level brated Beatles day and everything.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Yeah, yeah, that's great, and another l and another it's
gonna be another.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Yet yeah, okay, Well, I mean it's inevitable. As he
walks the bas is full, of course it is, of
course it is.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
It's I mean, if you're gonna, I mean, I may
just I may just have to pull the plug and
just go over to Padres Dodgers and in uh in
six minutes, I just have to do it. So you know,
it's sorry, I gotta just go.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
I gotta.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
I'm sorry, I can't anymore.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Iguez hits a grand slam on you, But then I'm
gonna throw my TV out the window, which is one
of my favorite gifts is the guy that yanks's TV
out of the wall and throws the window.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Throw yourself out the window. They're so bad.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
The better one is just going back to the old
Elvis theory of having a long line of TVs and
waiting and if you didn't like what was on, you'd
just shoot it.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Yeah no, but here's it, shoot it now. But here's
the thing is is I don't really I don't really care.
I can't do that because you know the Knicks. I mean,
come on, this is gonna be our year, right, this
is how we go to the finals.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
It gives you a couple of months to replace it.
Give me that a bigger TV. Look, you got out
of the inning, first ball, swinging Rodriguez lines to write.
Now you get you just need three in the bottom
of the ninth.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Man, I'll tell you, well, all right, let I'll take two.
I'll take two. I'll also take a quick one two
three so I can get over to Padres. Dodgers.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Really, I mean this screen experience, let's go. I mean,
so this is the baseball series of the year. There
has not been one bigger where the Dodgers somehow enter
this series trailing by a game. In the NL West,
it has been a trade deadline where The Padres have
just continued their hot play. They've added to their bullpen.
(03:08):
They're closing games out. They're bringing relievers in the third inning.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Even in shutout games when the starting pitchers given up
no hits and hasn't thrown a ball, they're still going
to the bullpen and the third they are winning. This
is they are playing as well as they have. The
Dodgers are questionable. If this is a Padres sweep, and
clearly you look at which team is playing better going
in like that, that that might that might basically have
(03:33):
the Dodgers have to settle for a wild card if
this is a four game lead coming out, and I
can't say it's not gonna happen even Look, Dodgers are
home everything. But the Dodgers aren't playing well. They got
problems up and down the lineup, problems with pitching. The
Padres have none, which is clearly means the Dodgers will
get five in the first and win this game nine
to one. But look what you're doing, You're you're salting
them away before the saltiest of them all, Clayton Kershaw
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takes the mound and throws that first pitch at seven
to ten, seven eleven, not seven or nine seven ten.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Because he's salty. You're talking sweep already. I mean, that's
that's dangerous stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
You don't think if you're Manny Machado, you're fighting some
way to delay the start of the game by a
minute to get so seven eleven. There's another minute when
Kershaw throws.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
The trying to get under his skin, like you start
walking up towards the batter's box, and so you got
a cramp in your cap allegedly.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Oh yeah, give me a second, give me a second.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Oh for a second.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Yeah yeah, And they bring out the the the what
the cold stuff that they spray on.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
They need the band in the whole nine yards hold.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
But the trainer says, listen, it is nothing. It's just
like al just it just protects you. Don't worry. It's nothing.
I just here you go. Okay, very good, you get
up there. It hit all right, that's fantastic, all right.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Yeah, eight and a half runs is the was the open.
It's up to nine and a half. As we get
ready for first pitch.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
It's seven twelve. We can start now. He's never gonna
get out of the first inning. Uh this again, this
is some again biggest baseball series of the year. Nothing
else has closed. Padres Dodgers just a few minutes away.
Will of course keep you up to on this throughout the.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Stats stats on Kershaw. If it does get delayed, how
does that?
Speaker 1 (05:07):
I don't, I don't. I don't. You know what I
would have to ask Ai, But I don't think it's good.
I don't. I don't think it's good. What what happens
when Kershaw? Okay, what happens? Okay, it auto filled for me?
What happened to Odell Beckham Junior? Right, that's the auto film.
That's what happens when Kershaw has a game start late.
(05:30):
Let's see. The answer is uh, it makes him difficult
to regain his ramp up. It could lead to a
shortened outing, with the team opting to use the bullpen
to cover the longer duration of the game. Basically, Frostburg,
you're screwed. There you go, there's a that I'm not
a nuts fan.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Yeah, but there was no specificity to that at all.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 4 (05:53):
No, no, not you the way.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Yeah, he's screwed.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
If they start the game late. I just read it.
The whole thing off of Ai what happens when the
game starts late.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
AI also has the Mets winning tonight.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
They did get in one hundred and thirteen bucks for
this game, Oh boy, fifty strong as the Dodgers host
the Podgers.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
So we'll keep you updated on this throughout the night.
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two preseason games in the NFL tonight, and it's really
hard to do this. I mean, first, while we got
Kansas City, Seattle is just underway. Titans lead the Falcons
right now, twenty three to twenty late in the fourth court.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
And the Chiefs are already cheating.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
This is already they they're giving it. They gave them
a first down. They said Mahomes got late hit on
a handle.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
They don't even have the ball. They gave them a
first down.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
But this is really hard to do, Mike. But absolutely
this has happened the number one overall pick in the
NFL draft, who is a quarterback, has been absolutely invisible
and off the radar screen since the NFL draft.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Well drafted by Tennessee.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
But but still, though, I mean, this is this is
It's not you know, in the NBA, I get it
because you see that you need guys to start in
bigger markets. It happens that way. But the NFL, they
find you everywhere, They find you everywhere, and here's the
number one pick. And it's not like he's an offensive tackle,
it's a defensive end. This is a quarterback. It's about
a quarterback man and cam Ward who has been perfectly
(07:42):
acceptable so far. Right, he had an okay first game,
he had an okay first quarter tonight, you know, finished
two out of seven for forty two yards in limited play,
but still led the Titans down to a score in
the first quarter. Before he came out. Everything was you know,
he's been perfectly acceptable so far, and there has been
absolutely no buzz, no attention, no anything, nothing about the
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number one overall pick in the draft. And that that,
you know, in a in a time when not a
lot in the NFL shocks me. This does because it
shouldn't be no buzz on cam Ward. It's wild that
this is the case. Do we talk way more about
Shador Sanders, who is fourth string not playing this weekend
and all the drama that goes along with it with
(08:28):
the If you had a pie chart, it would be
ninety nine point nine nine percent of Shador Sanders in
the in the country. And the only reason it's point
point one percent cam Ward is because we're talking about
it right now. This is the first time he's been
mentioned since he got drafted. This is done, and he's
a quarterback and he's exciting, and he throws for a
lot of yards, and still it's like, oh, yeah, yeah,
(08:50):
how's cam.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Ward gonna do?
Speaker 1 (08:51):
He's let He's not even on page one of of
of you know, he's not even below the fold. He's
what beIN o'cook would say, it would be a page
f eight in the agate type on the bottom of
the page. That's how unimportant is That's how low. That's
how low cam Ward has been. And he's the number
one pick in the draft.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Yeah, I think a couple of things come into play, right.
We've been talking a lot about the veterans, you know,
the back stuff, with Matthew Stafford the last week or so,
Aaron Rodgers. For the longest time, was he going to play?
Where was he gonna go? Was the thing with Pittsburgh inevitable?
It ended up happening, and here we are, And then
you've got so many questions about the second year guys.
I mean, look at all the hot air being blown
(09:33):
about Caleb Williams. Just every every day, it's a new headline,
it's a new breakdown, it's a new Hey, maybe this
was an AI driven bot versus an actual source telling
you something about what's going on behind the scenes. Right,
You've got so much chaos and all of that, and
the Schador Sanders because of the surname and what we've
watched that takes up a bit of the pie chart.
(09:56):
Travis Hunter, how much is he going to play on
both sides of the ball. We gotta give it a
sliver off to him. So, yeah, cam Ward has been
able to operate in relative anonymity there in Tennessee. Not
often you get to do that as a number one pick.
But when last year's is drawing so much higher and
slinging ink in one of the big metroplexes, that's what
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it does.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
I mean, just think about what the the preseason has
been so far as we get into week two, think
about what it's been so far, which has been basically
Shador Sanders has been the story. And you want to say,
what's the second story. Well, if there's drama with Jerry
Jones about paying or not paying Micah Parsons or Jerry
Jones saying something or doing something, or just general Cowboys
(10:41):
the Shenanigans, Right, that there's number two stayed in general.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Yeah, that's it. Really that that's been it like like
it's it. I know that the draft didn't go well
with a lot of big playmakers at the top, and
obviously Travis Hunter, you know we're waiting it's basically just
seeing him play both sides of the ball. But this
that's why I thought, for sure, well we're gonna at
least default to cam Ward that the number one pick
in the draft's gonna get something. Nope, Nope, he's even
(11:05):
he's even being looked over in every kind of dynasty
draft I'm doing in fantasy where he's the only quarterback
you're gonna take, And I'm seeing dynasty rookie drafts where
he's making it out of the first round, like no
one's even not to but he's a starting quarterback and
when you do Dynasty, it's it happens that way, like,
oh my goodness, no, no, no, he's making it out of
the NAA don't like Cam Woard going out of the
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first round, number one pick of the draft. This is
how much it is, and I really it really shocks me.
I hope he has some sort of incredible run beginning
of the season. He bursts on the scene like Cam
Newton and all of a sudden, it's, oh my goodness,
he throws for four hundred yards and look at what
Cam Newton did?
Speaker 5 (11:43):
You know?
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Remember his first couple of games with the Panthers were
like eight hundred yards passing and Steve Smith had like
six hundred yards receiving. Like, I hope he does that
because he should be getting a little bit more of
the uh, the spoils that go along with being the
number one pick in the draft.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Yeah. I mean, look, it's good to not have the
spotlight be quite so loud and bright for you. But
you know, I get what you're saying. Let's see, they
are currently at plus seven seventy five to win the
AFC South one that we've discussed at at nauseum, going
back to some of the Jacksonville stuff and our discussion
(12:18):
of the Colts, and look, the Texans are the favorite,
but they're just minus one oh five, so not exactly
a prohibited favorite by any stretch of the imagination. So
you know, when things break right, you have the opportunity
to go make some noise. You got a couple of
playmakers in there, some decent wideouts that have been added
(12:39):
over the course of this offseason. We'll see what Calvin
Ridley's got. But you bring in Tyler Lockett. Van Jefferson
has shown as a third at spots. Now he's got
to take on a bigger role Tony Pollard. You lost
Spears to injuries, so keeping an eye on the running
back position behind Pollard. But you got some playmakers. Hell,
you got a guy named Gunner running at tight end
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con Quo. He had a big game tonight, So yeah,
curiosity no question in that division. So maybe he'll start
getting some noise in some pub But you know, I
think most guys would rather come into their first camp
and be left alone as opposed to the constant headlines
and talking heads right to go, owing back to Denzel
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Washington or going back to Shador Sanders trying to find
his guy Tony Grossi afterwards like hey, why do you
hate me? So all of that to say for cam Ward,
wish him the best. We certainly watched a lot of
his games the last couple of years in the studio
and he made his share of big plays. So with that,
(13:42):
he'll get his He'll just just do But for the
off season, sometimes it's okay to just go go do
your work behind the scenes.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
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Speaker 1 (14:02):
It is already been some kind of Friday, and we
still have a lot left to go here in football.
We'll get to Shador Sanders in a second. But sometimes
the scariest moments in sports bring out the best in us,
and that's clearly a case that unfortunately we saw and
then saw the reaction in tonight's preseason game between the
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Lions and the Falcons. This game was suspended and ended
early in the fourth quarter with the Lions winning seventeen
to ten after Maurice Norris the Lions is injured. Looked
very serious on a tackle he attempts to make. Norris
goes in to make the tackle. You see his head
kind of snap back. There's seizure activity in his legs
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and right away personnel came out. They took him away
in an ambulance. Prayers up for him. Will have an
update on him as soon as we do in this game.
And it really was something I mean to see the
Lions and Falcons decide with each other. They held hands
around him as he was being tended to on the field,
and they decided we're not gonna play. And the next
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play happened and the ball was snapped and the clock ticked,
and I don't know if there were still some unsuredness
as to what was going on on the field, it
was gonna happen, but both teams decided amongst themselves that's it.
This game is over. And that was the final snap
and they suspended the game with about fourteen minutes left
to go, the Lions and Falcons again deciding this right
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after they watched Norris get taken off the field, And
again we'll have an update for you as soon as
we do. He was taken to the hospital, but the
two teams decided, okay, this game is done, and out
of respect for him. It was a very much a
Tomorrow Hamlin esque situation where we watched it and said, okay,
what's gonna happen? Now, Clearly fourteen minutes left in game
one of the preseason, there really is no need to
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finish the game, and I am I am glad to
see humanity and concern for Norris kind of just take over.
And that's what we saw, and that's how the game ended.
You see the snap and players just kind of standing there,
going we're not gonna play. So this is kind of
the end of the game, and the game ended a
great moment of humanity and together it's an NFL brotherhood
between the Lions and the Falcons.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
I mean you talk about the the fraternity, right and
all the guys that we know and we've worked with
through the years. You watch games with them, and when
there's a moment of this nature, it still resonates on
that grand scale. And certainly you know with the type
of adrenaline and the way players have to be right
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in terms of their readiness for that next play, and
certainly regular season, we know there'd be a suspension of
play and eventually they get back into it because of
the stakes in this particular case, you recognize what this
moment means, and against a preseason the fans understood it, right,
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A lot of a lot of people emotional shown and
certainly outside the prayer circles and everything that flowed through.
So all thoughts with with Norris's family, his teammates and everybody,
but yeah, showing the humanity of this moment, much bigger stakes,
you know, in the injury as it occurred, takes the
(17:11):
the knee and to your point, Jason, Uh, the immediacy
of trainers, uh, quick acting personnel, and the credit to
you know, how quickly everybody mobilized and recognized the severity
of the moment. And then look, the game doesn't matter
at that point, right, It's all about, you know, putting
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all the effort towards Norris and his his health and
getting him the help he needs.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
And and still I mean you hear it in my
voice as I'm saying it, because I watched the replay
a couple of times, probably one too many, because we
recognize the fragility of things when we talk about contact
sports at every level, and in the NFL, you know
here it is spotlight today. We've got a lot of
poz it is to talk about and the love of
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the football being back, but also you know that grim
reminder of what can happen just so quickly and I'll
play yeah, I mean, it's.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Something you'll see and he goes in for a tackle
and it's a helmet to the knee and you see
as his head kind of snap back and and you know, look,
it's something. It's part of the game, and it's an
awful part of the game, and it's such an unfortunate
part of the game. And unfortunately we've seen it now
a couple of times over the course of the past
few years, and everybody's got their fingers crossed again. As
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soon as we hear any moments on this, we will
let you know. But sometimes we respond to our most
difficult moments by displaying the best of us, and that
clearly was the Lions and the Falcons tonight again, this
game suspended with about fourteen minutes to go, seventeen to
ten game, and they're really it didn't seem to me
like there was any like there was any question that
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that was they were going to do. Mike, Like I said, Okay,
they're going to do this and just line up and
say we're doing this far. They could have easily said look,
we're not doing it and made it some kind of
you know, walking off the field and there's a lot
of craziness and bizarreness and what's happening, or the teams
refusing to play. But by getting up there and saying, okay,
this play is gonna run the last fourteen minutes. Okay,
you know you're not gonna blow the whistle, and this
(19:12):
is this is how we're gonna do it. And I
thought stepping up and showing not just deciding hey we're
walking away, we're done, but to stand up and say hey,
we're doing this moment for you. This was kind of
an extra way to do it, because they easily could
have just said, hey, we're not gonna play. Okay, that's fine,
the coaches talk and where and we're gonna you go
to your sideline. You go to your sideline, we'll do
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a quick congratulations and that's how it's gonna end. But
to say hey, we're snapping the football and not playing
for you. It's there. It was their way of doing
even a bigger moment for him on the field, which
I thought was, I mean, what a Again, sometimes these
these moments bring out the best in this and that
clear was. It was an incredible decision, uh, from the
from the Lions and Falcons on this. I can't say
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enough about it.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Yeah, the recognition of what what's at play here, right,
the game gets minimized and we see this far too often,
happily not too much in the gale of how many
games are played, but it's, you know, still the severity
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of it. You know, that recognition and that moment and
to your point, just going running out the clock. All right,
game's gone to Zeros. Let's go and let's put our
thoughts where they need to be.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
So again, we'll continue to update this story throughout the night. Again,
best thoughts to Norris's family lines as well. But look,
our business is sports and we go to the biggest
story coming into tonight on the field when we talk
about a big level of interest. We saw the debut
of Shador Sanders tonight for the Cleveland Browns, and look,
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I'll be honest, game had ended thirty to ten. There's
two things for this game, right right, There's two things.
There's there's the first one is what we think of
about Schador Sanders, and then the second part is reality.
And you know, I kept thinking of this tonight. I knew, Okay,
Sanders is gonna come out and he's gonna and he's
gonna play. He's gonna go ball to the wall, right
like he know this is his chance to win the job.
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He wants to show everybody I'm the guy that you
thought I was in college. I'm not a fifth round pick.
I need to seize this job. I'm getting a chance here.
And I kept thinking of that, that Herb Brooks moment
from Miracle when he starts his speech to the guys
and he says, and uh, Kurt, I just hear it
in Kurt Russell's voice now when he says, great moments
are born from great opportunity, and that's you have here tonight, gentlemen,
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that's what you've earned tonight, right, And I thought, and
I thought, that's exactly the deal for Shador Sanders. All
this craziness, all the Browns is setting him up to fail.
No Browns will put him out there to play like
there he's the only guy healthy enough to play. He's
been there for a minute and a half. I mean,
what the hell that more analysis is there than that
he's one of your four guys, right, Okay, So this
is how it's gonna go. And he goes out and
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in the beginning he did some good things, and he
did some rookie things. Okay, you had a great scramble
for a first down, you know, a couple of bad decisions,
you know, trying to run around like he would have
done in college when clearly, okay, that doesn't happen in
the NFL. Is that the right of passage?
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Do you have to check that one on your Bingo card?
Speaker 5 (22:14):
Now?
Speaker 4 (22:15):
If you're a quarterback with any ability to move laterally,
that you have to do that play like it's a
video game. So Chris Berman would be able to go
whoop whoop nine times before the play ends.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
He said, hey, Russell Wilson, watch this. I've seen you
do this for a long time. You're ready. So he
did some things, He did some good things, and he
did some rookie things. And then the second quarter he
played extremely well. Right, two touchdowns, including this one. The
very first touchdown of Shador Sanders' NFL career. Take a listen, seven.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Year veteran Treyyon Williams in the backfield, play fake to
him Sanders looking throwing down Payden Davis, Shadoor Sanders. Here's
welcome to the n NFL.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Browns Rose Chris Rose on Brown's TV with the call. There, Yes,
that Chris Rose with the call the first of two
touchdowns by Shador Sanders for the night, fourteen out of
twenty three, one hundred and thirty eight yards and two touchdowns.
Right now, here's here's the thing, because people got I mean,
there's nothing crazier than what people even after Shadoor Sanders
(23:25):
when he handed the ball off the first time. Oh,
that was a great handoff by Schendor's head. What a
great handoff by Schador Sanders. He absolutely played well enough
to keep the gig. Like what do we say the
other night? If he plays well enough, let him run
with it. Right, you don't need to say he's the
starter and there's a again, there's a bigger conversation, but
for right now, the results, what we saw in this game,
(23:46):
there is no reason to say, hey, okay, Joe Flacco
you go back to get all the reps. No, let
Shador run with a little bit. You know, I always
say the same thing, and you saw it. They said
it on the broadcast A lot to night. What do
I say? I look for a quarterbacks the first and
the most important thing that the game is not too
big for them, and that it's not too much. It's
not too okay. The game is going really fast right now,
the old Bill Parcells line, I want to see if
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rookie's eyes get real milky in the lights, and they
it's a it's a twister, Andy yem Aniem And it wasn't.
And he made some big throws and he got more
comfortable as the game went on. There is no reason
to not allow him to continue to run with the
ones and get the lion's share of the reps and
continue on here and act as the de facto number
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one quarterback. Look, Joe Flacco has been around a lot.
They interviewed him during the game. He talked about his
comfort level with the offense and how well Schador Sanders
is playing. And that's awesome. You don't need to see
Joe Flacco, right you You tell Joe Flacco. Look, Joe
here's a deal. You know, we have these rookie quarterbacks, Cinger,
you know where you're at, and he understands, we're gonna
let your door go here a little bit and run
with this job. And then we see where we're at.
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We have we have a long preseason, got another couple
of weeks to go, We got a month before the
beginning of the season starts. We're gonna give him a
little bit more of an opportunity, and Joe Flacco's got
to understand that if he doesn't, it doesn't matter. I mean,
you see, Shador Sanders absolutely was the guy we thought
he would be when we thought he was the second
overall picking the draft, going behind cam Ward. There is
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no reason to not say, shaudor you were great. You're
gonna continue to run with the ones. You are now
running as the number one quarterback with the Cleveland Browns
for this summer. And I don't think there's any way
you can come out of this and not do that
for him. I don't see how you don't.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Well, in the end, the other guys aren't healthy enough
to run anyway, So by default, I think he's gonna
get some more run here. You know, look, you play
against who's on the field with you, whether they're the
ones for the Panthers or twos or threes or whatever
it is. Panthers aren't great anyway, So grain of salt
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with somebody. I'm not trying to pour water on the
notion of what he accomplished. Those throws were great. I
want to give a lot of nod on that first
touchdown pass to the concentration of the receiver as the
ball with between a couple of defenders to not have
that either bounce off his face mask or sail through
his hands. Good job by him. The second great throw
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that he made down the sideline on the fingertips, Hey,
you got to give a guy a chance to make
a play where the defenders aren't and he did that.
What it means long term, like the hyperbole is going
to be there, I'm certainly not pouring a giant bucket
of water on it because it's a great first step. Right,
you have the growth moments of the scramble plays and
(26:31):
the chaos there, and then you settle in and take
advantage of what's afforded to you by the defense. How
that gets read by the professionals in the room and
when they go back to evaluate it in the post.
That's on them, you know. For us being loud mounts
on the radio, I'm like, hey, I want to see more,
all right, add more to it.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
Right.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
It's like, you know, we discussed and had a little
disagreement with the Anthony Richardson stuff yesterday. In the end,
you got to pile it up and see how much
he can take, you know, in terms of acumen and
what he still needs to learn and develop, and try
to put him in an opportunity to see that growth.
And for now, Joe Flacco, we know what he is.
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He's gonna come in, he's gonna wing the ball around,
and there's gonna be some great moments. There's gonna be
some terrible moments. Oh wait, isn't that what you expect
from a rookie quarterback that you.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Drafted in the fifth round.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
In the end, you're aspirations other than Miles Garrett Stowe
in the company line because he's you know, got a
massive ass check stick it out of his back pocket. Yeah,
super Bowl baby, It's like everybody else recognize it. It's
a train wreck. So if you can go and get
him some meaningful reps and get a true evaluation. I
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don't see why you wouldn't once you get to the
regular season. I guess in September you still have to
sell hope, which is why you see Flacco or Picket
at that point. But even still, we got a lot
of football that needs to be played here, Jason. I'm
sure several teams are going to have a quarterback that
comes up a little less than one hundred, so all
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of a sudden, one of those guys could be a
viable trade option.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
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Speaker 1 (28:18):
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Call sixty two. He is a Hall of Fame voter.
Jake Call, what's happening?
Speaker 5 (28:32):
Man?
Speaker 1 (28:32):
How are you?
Speaker 5 (28:33):
How am I going to get through? It really is
like a New York but sports teams by, isn't it?
It is?
Speaker 1 (28:40):
But for one week the Jets were great in all
facets of the game. They were great justin fields was great.
The running game was great, the defense was great. This
may be as good as it gets.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
Maybe about it real, Yes, this is as good as
it gets. When when the other team doesn't game plan
or design a defense for Justin Grims. Yeah, he can
look pretty good. That's definitely true. Hey, he could even
be very good, maybe even Hall of Famish, if you
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don't have a if you don't game plan against him. However,
once you actually game plans, things changed. That's how football works.
That's strange that happens.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Yeah, that's why I said this is as good as
it's going to get. I'm okay with it.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
Well, this is this is like my friends who it
was friends who were Giants fans, and he was sending
out texts Jackson Dart looking so great, looks stop just
to stop, and I immediately dug out the headline of
Daniel Jones's first, uh first exhibition games, and it's like,
(30:01):
Daniel Jones looks sharp for Giants and debut. Yeah, that's
how good things go. The rookie quarterback always looks sharp
when he's playing against teams that don't actually play defense.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
So much. For that shoot or Sanders question, I was
going to.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
Ask, that's how that's how this always works. It's really
that's how it works.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
No, but I'm telling you now, I'm going to make
you even happier than you were last week. I have
to re think my bold prediction that they're going to
start all four quarterbacks this year. They're now going to
start five quarterbacks this year. Because we talked about that five. Well,
now they're getting five. We said four, but now we
got five. We got five.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
Last week. They had last week, and I said, you're
up to five.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Now it's clearly going to be five. Sanders is hurt,
Picking is hurt. Yeah, now it's going to be five.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
I have very little doubt of that because it's the Brands,
and it doesn't really matter how many games they play,
Like they could only play five games and they would
play five from quarterbacks because there the Brown.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
And then it would be Derek Anderson twice. No, I
see exactly how it's going to work for you.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
Derek Anderson.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
That two thousand and seven season with him and Braylan
Edwards was magical for fantasy.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
Well it really actually it really was. And you forget
that Jojo Vicious was really really good that year too,
Like he was maybe the best third down receiver in
the league that year. I think he tried like forty
passes on third down that year. He's really really good.
Like the whole offense just clicked for a little while,
(31:49):
like all of a sudden, we were like, oh, Romeo
Pronell can really be a great head coach.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
And I was like, no, not really, no, no, now, no, no,
you'll see time will bear me out on it. It'll
be fine. He'll be with Jason Cole with us here
at Fox Sports Radio, Jason Smith, Mike Carmon, All right, now,
I want this is what this is. Believe it or not.
There is a question I've wanted to ask you since
Week one of the preseason. Okay, all right, we watched
(32:19):
we watched Cam Little kick a seventy yard field goal
in the preseason right for Jacksonville, which is like, whoa,
this is not just sixty five, sixty six, this is seventy.
And I want to say, if I said to you,
if you what, what do you think is the absolute
longest any kicker, whoever you think is the best kicker
(32:40):
in the NFL. What's the longest field goal you can
see somebody making. Now that we've seen somebody in the
preseason it won from seventy.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
Well in a live situation, live situation, live, Well that was.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
A live situation. It was the preseason, but it was
a life Yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:54):
Yeah, I mean I just didn't know if you're like
saying I was, if we just like have a like
field goal contest.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Want to hear about that that's what the problem can do?
That they can do that?
Speaker 5 (33:07):
Well, I mean obviously got made it, so somebody's going
to be willing to try it, you know, depending on
the kicker. But there are some factors that go with it,
and that is, are you playing indoors? Are you playing
in a warm weather stadium? And you don't attempt these
kinds of kicks unless a you're in a desperation situation
where you're try and tie the game on the last
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play and you think and you think you have a
kicker can do it, or it's the last play of
a first half and you're going to give it a shot.
But even then it's dangerous. Because I was at the
game between the Giants and the Bears where Tom Kauflin
and one of the rare mistakes that Tom Coughlin made
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from a strategic standpoint, try a really long feeling a lawyer.
Remember it was like sixty something yards and that's the
one that Devin has to return for one hundred and
eight yards famously, and you know, I think Ernie, Ernie,
of course he lost his mind because it's like, why
would you do that here in the wind and all
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those other things. So, I mean it really conditions happy perfect.
So you end up with only like maybe the course
of the season, a dozen situations where this can happen.
And again, what's your weather, like, are you playing indoors?
I mean you can't, you really can't do it once
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the weather starts to turn in late October November, because
it's the ball is just not going to travel. So
you know, I think you got probably yeah, you have
maybe five or six realistic opportunities for it in a
given season where somebody might try it. And even then
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you better have a really good, really good unit for
cub because if that ball is short, it's going to
come back out because that guy's going to get ahead
of team and he's going to be out to about
the twenty five or thirty yards in a hurry. And
on top of your coverage, stam.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
So since you referenced Chicago. Let's let's go there. What
do you make of all the noise surrounding Caleb Williams
Ben Johnson? We're watching net videos and everything else and
getting that extrapolated out.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
Upon you know, for Johnson, it's all going to happen.
It's all happening. It's happening right now.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
So over under eight and a half.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Wins, Well, no number of times Caleb Williams is benched,
that's that's the that's.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
The old no I was asking wins or touchdowns?
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Wow, number of former Bear stars who call for Caleb
Williams to be benched this year? Eight and a half?
What's the over over way way? Well, but you have
to find legend. Can just be someone who played for
the team. It's got to be signed up.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
It's different amongst the fans of a team. Right, there's
guys that you called it. The rest of the world laughs.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
At I were talking about just former quarterbacks of the Bears.
Then eight and a half is a good number. They
were taking that total total former players because Olden cruits, well,
Ollen Krutz is going to come out in his favor.
I think his only crup. I remember getting a semi
argument with Ollen cruits about who was that that draft
(36:29):
that they that they drafted instead of Mahomes? What was
it Trubisky? Yeah, yeah, when Travisky. You know, Trivisky had
like rare games where he was like twenty three or
thirty five and threw a couple of balls me into
the outside that actually looked decent, And I was like, okay,
(36:50):
had he had a decent game, But he's still not
very good. And Owen Krutz just came right after and
we go, oh, what do you know and what do
you use? It's like he's not very good, Like you
have to look at it realistically. And Creutz was a
great defender in that case. So I guess he's the
guy who's always going to stick up for what the
Bears do.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
But but I could find, like I could find like
Steve Fuller getting very upset and go up, there's one
Bears legend, Steve Fuller. Okay, got him?
Speaker 5 (37:18):
Yeah, see, I think Fuller leads the pack. I mean
you're going to get I think eight and a half
on quarterback Salon's good numbers. It's really good number I got.
But I definitely I definitely go over. I definitely go over.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
How do I get crouts into the Hall of Fame
while we're while we're on him.
Speaker 5 (37:36):
Yeah, that's gonna that. That's not gonna happen. I like
all crude, but yeah, it's not gonna happen. Just like that.
Speaker 4 (37:43):
Just dismiss me.
Speaker 5 (37:47):
The way the new rules are, it's gonna be so
hard to get more than three or four guys in
the Hall of Fame in a given year, which.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Well, you just have to have a very good career
when you get in the Hall of Fame. You don't
need to be great. You used to be very good?
Speaker 5 (38:03):
Did you do? You know what the do we discuss
the new rules yet?
Speaker 4 (38:07):
No?
Speaker 1 (38:08):
What did they tell you? You have to be well? About? Sure?
They said, hey, they have to be at least very
good and then they're eligible. Okay, great, that's the new rule.
Speaker 5 (38:15):
No, no, this is actually a realistic thing, and it's
a real problem because a lot of dudes you're going
to get to get in? Are you going to have
a hard time? We're we're going to have a real
backlog of players here in three or four years. Where
are you're going to go That guy really actually does
deserve to get in but can't get in because what
they did is instead of us going from we used
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to go from the you'd have the group of fifteen
that you would argue about, and you cut that group
down from fifteen to ten, and then you would cut
them from ten to five. And it was kind of
became a rubber stamp of those five we're going to
get in, right. And that went on for a few years,
and then there was a bunch of whining and complaining,
especially after the Blue Ribbon year that they put all
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the seniors in, which that was a massive mistake because
that caused the whole Hall of very good argument when
we were letting in Harold Carmichael and the Drew Pearson's
of the world.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Carmichael, I think I know what happened there is he
was supposed to be in the Tall of Fame and
they actually put.
Speaker 5 (39:20):
Yeah, yeah, that was welcome to the layup drill for stuff.
So yeah, you keep going with the radio layup drills, okay.
But the overreaction to that was to do this where
we instead of cutting down from ten to five we
come from, we cut down from ten to seven and
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then the seven. In order to get to gain entry,
you have to get at least eighty percent. Well, there's
fifty voters. There's two hundred and fifty votes because each
of us gets to vote for five. If you have
a guy, like a couple of guys who are like
unanimous pitch, like a Drew Brees is going to be
pretty much a un analyst pick this year, all of
(40:03):
a sudden, you take out fifty of those votes, you
probably take out another forty five for the next best guy,
and you're not less with a lot of votes for
the last five guys. I think this year we only
put in three under the new system. I think that
three is going to be more typical, and it's going
to be hard to get to four and almost impossible
(40:26):
to get to five. So there's actually going to be
guys because the problem with the process is not the
modern day guys. The problem with the process is the
senior guys that you and I talked about or we
talk about that are borderline and those are the guys
who keep getting in where everybody's looking around going that
(40:48):
is in now like seriously, like like Chuck Howligan, but
like he's he's not even like a cowboy B, like
he's a cowboy C. That's you know, like and that
served along the lines of your Tall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Layup Dill, layup Jill, the congratulations for the lamp till,
although that also assumed everybody knew who Harold Carmichael was.
Speaker 4 (41:12):
Yeah, right, come on a label.
Speaker 5 (41:15):
That's the whole point that Harold Carmichael got in the
Hall of Fame. And I remember Harold Carmichael is a
very good player, and he was very tall. It's very tall.
He's very He set some record for most games, like
consecutive games with the catch, like I don't know, two
hundred or something like that, you know, notable achievement. But
I always look back at going Look, I grew up
(41:37):
a Rams fan, and Harold Jackson was better than him.
And Harold Jackson does not belong in the Hall of Fame.
Like Harold Jackson was probably better than Drew Pearson doesn't
belong in the Hall of Fame. That's Drew Pearson had
some moments, no question about it. But like we've sort
of softened that line with some of the old time guys,
(41:57):
and when we put in twenty of them in one
year because we thought that there was some backlog of
these guys have to get in. It's like no, no, no,
they don't have to get in. They didn't get voted
in during their careers because they weren't quite good enough,
you know, Like that's that's how this works. But now
we're punishing guys who, like, I don't know that Tory
(42:19):
Holt or Reggie Wayne are going to get in the
Hall of Fame anytime soon. Like they may take those
guys another five or ten years to get in the
way that the system is set up. And Reggie Wayne
and Tory Holt are guys who I think are definitely
Hall of Fame guys. They're not. They're way better than
(42:40):
Drew Pearson's and Harold Carmichaels of the world.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
He's on Twitter at Jason cole sixty two. That is
at Jason Coleson.
Speaker 5 (42:46):
That was That was way too serious, man, That was
that was very serious.
Speaker 4 (42:50):
It was very somuch fantastic. Well, you did get a
cowboy bes and that was good.
Speaker 5 (42:54):
That was not bad. That's not bad. Now we're gonna
talk about Jerry this week.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
This well, well we'll get to Jerry, don't we go
in my way?
Speaker 5 (43:04):
Terrible's surviving, he is, You're surviving.
Speaker 4 (43:09):
We're cowboy bees. Any part of that treatment.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
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Speaker 1 (43:22):
Walking through our door right now, nobody better to chop
this up with than the editor proprietor Grand Pooba of
College Footballnews dot com. You're one stop shopping for everything
college football. Longtime front of the show, Pete Futech. He
is on Twitter at Pete Futech. Right now he is
feuding with people who say Tim Tebow is the greatest
(43:43):
quarterback in college football history. It is Pete Feutech. What's happening?
Speaker 6 (43:47):
Man, Hey, buddy, hey, he was, whether we all want
to believe it or not.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Sy Oh no, I'm with you. He absolutely was.
Speaker 6 (43:55):
I ever saying I never liked the act, I never
thought the thing, but I will admit to greatness where
I must, and so I would admit to it there.
Speaker 5 (44:03):
So let me ask you this.
Speaker 6 (44:04):
Let's start out our show.
Speaker 5 (44:06):
Cause segment with this.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
OK.
Speaker 6 (44:08):
Have they ever did the Fab five actually go to
a Final four or two or a national championship or two?
Or is that not been acknowledge yet or is that
still considered tainted.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
I know, if everybody remembers a Fab five in the
National Championship game, I think people still remember that.
Speaker 5 (44:27):
But but it didn't exist, right, right.
Speaker 6 (44:30):
They took down the beat, they took down the pieces
of cloth in the in the in the arena, so
it obviously never happened. And if it did, well, then
you know it's tainted. It's you know, you're supposed to
feel bad about yourself when you remember those days, right.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
I mean, repete, could they have done something and taken
away the National Championship have done that? Yeah, but I
feel like you had three years. You had three years
to try to prove this. In the fact, I'm sorry
the Connor Stallions found a way to outsmart you when
you couldn't get the evidence, and that boy, I really
want to be investigated by the NSA if I do
something wrong, because they're not gonna find anything because I'm
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a little bit smarter than him, and boy, look at
what he was able to do. I'm just glad that
it's over, you know, because again, they could have done
something bigger a couple of years ago. They could have said, hey,
this is a big deal, we're gonna ban you from
winning the Big Ten or ban you from postseason play
this year. They could have done something pretty strong for
one year, but instead, no, no, we're gonna wait and
try to get all the proof we can. They couldn't
(45:30):
get any So now, yeah, here's a twenty million dollar
fine and a suspension you were going to give to
your coach anyway.
Speaker 6 (45:36):
There was a window of about four weeks where when
when it all hits a fan, when when they're like,
wait a minute, this, you know, there's nothing illegal here,
and technically there still is it there they're actually getting
nailed for other stuff because there was never any rules
against this. It might have been an American, but there
was never anything that said you are not allowed to
(45:57):
do this. Others that have us you know you're not
except you're not allowed to scout in the stadium, but
that's if you're an official.
Speaker 5 (46:02):
Capacity blah blah blah.
Speaker 6 (46:04):
But like, the only way this would have worked had
it would have been for the Big Ten at the
time to have said no, Michigan is not eligible to
play for the Big Ten championship, and then it would
have been up to the College Football Playoff commit to
decide what it would wanted to have done with that,
which they could have still said, Hey, we're going to do.
Speaker 5 (46:22):
Our job is to come for the four.
Speaker 6 (46:23):
Best teams and that's this year's Michigan teams. And to
your point, all the screaming, all these coaches like, oh
yeah we knew this was happening. Well too bad. You
know where were you then? And also to your point,
Robins racing son I you you know, people really mad
about this are like, well, we didn't think of it first.
Speaker 5 (46:43):
Or do it as well?
Speaker 6 (46:44):
So I I it's not right, it's not good. But
like this, you know, what are you doing twenty twenty million?
I mean you Michigan types have that, you know in
your pockets, you know, and couch cushions. That's that's nothing. Okay,
you're you're suspending your own more against central directional something
or other. And no, if Jim Harbaugh wants the coach
(47:06):
in the college football again, yeah he's coming back. And
if someone says, well you gotta say, you know, you
gotta save yourself, no, yes, who's gonna say no to him?
You can still hire him. There's no east to this,
like it's just like a bunch of blah blah blah
and ball gets kicked off in seven days from well.
Speaker 4 (47:25):
That's it, right, just tie up the bow and let
people gripe for a week and then we'll have a
kickoff and everybody will say squirrel and that's the end.
Speaker 5 (47:33):
Of it exactly.
Speaker 6 (47:35):
And then you know, but oh no, this only g
oh it hainted. Now feel bad about yourselves. Michigan fans, Yeah, okay,
like yeah, that that'll work. Oh I File State fans,
you win. Oh no, you didn't beat that. That there
wins over.
Speaker 5 (47:51):
You don't count now.
Speaker 6 (47:52):
No, it's just it's so silly.
Speaker 4 (47:56):
But that's the end game, right is we're looking twenty
million dollars plus whatever. It's a tenth of your operating budget.
Get Steven Ross or someone uh to cut a check.
Here's Tom Brady from one of his card shops. Boom
uh no postseason ban, none of that and more has
to miss a couple of games. I think you'll take
a national title and a couple of bad headlines from blogs.
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I mean, it's just shows how toothless everything is at
this point, and to the larger collegiate world.
Speaker 6 (48:26):
I mean, you did touch on the one big thing
you touched on the what no postseason banned? Like taking
away scholarships doesn't matter anymore in an NIL world, so
you can't. So the only real thing that they could
have done is said, you know what, You're not gonna
give you a death penalty or but we're gonna say
you can't play in the college football playoff or a
(48:47):
Big Ten championship for the next however many years. But
at this point in the business world of college athletics,
you do that, and five seconds later you're getting calls
from grape Vine, Texas, and Bristol, Connecticut and in all
these places like, ah, you want to take Michigan. We
got billions of dollars invested in this whole Big Ten thing,
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and you want to make Michigan a non entity. No
we're not, We're not doing that and this so try again.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
Now, Pete. The whole thing is that, like somebody could
have done something a year ago, two years or whatever
and it would have been over. And I feel like
like the NCA had a chance to do something. Clearly
there was evidence there there was something they could have done,
and now after three years, I just feel like, Okay,
I think everybody's just glad it's over. Like I think
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they think that's the overwhelming thing takeaway. Okay, good, this
story went on. You know, people are going for their
four years at Michigan and they're going to say, yeah,
every year my coach was suspended for the first two
games of the year. Yeah, I mean saying that, like,
I'm just glad that this is done at this point.
Speaker 6 (49:51):
Yeah, I think so. And you know, now it's all
about you know, Ken Michigan actually winning now, and you know,
because it great year is a one, you know, one
great season built to that, and there's always something. But yeah,
it's I'm glad it's hopefully it's over. But you know,
of course, if you look on social media and stuff,
it'll never be over. But for the people who really matter,
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I mean, remember, in my little, weird little world, it's
only a fraction of the people who care about this.
Ninety eight percent of the people who care about college
football are coming aboard right about now, and this is
when they start to care.
Speaker 4 (50:27):
All that to say they might actually have that quarterback
that they said Jim Harbond never did. Plus eight hundred
to win the Big Ten behind Ohio State, Penn State, Oregon.
Do they have a puncher's chance?
Speaker 6 (50:39):
Yeah, I mean, of course, because we don't know. Ohio
State's just a theory because last year it was they
had everyone, they were everyone back. Now they're replacing everyone.
We're assuming that they're just going to.
Speaker 5 (50:52):
Replace all this talent that was built up over.
Speaker 6 (50:55):
Years and years and years, and they're just there's assuming
that all of ju and Sayan is going to be
the next great Ohio State quarterback because he might be.
You know, they didn't go after anybody, so okay, he
might be that good. And that's that's a lot to ask.
But Oregon's still very, very good. But that's assuming that
Dante More is going to be great at quarterback and
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be the next big thing. I still think if if
penns if the talent, it's at Penn State right now.
If you took the Penn State team and put him
at Alabama or Georgia or Ohio State, nobody else gets
the number one vote just there. They have the most talents,
the most experienced. Now they have Ohio State defensive coordinator.
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They have everything in place to be the number one team,
accept the respect of a wanting nation who thinks that
James Franklin cannot win a game.
Speaker 5 (51:48):
So that's all that's missing.
Speaker 1 (51:49):
Here all right, so pete, lastly, here we are. We're
getting We're creeping closer and closer to opening two week
zero in college football, the soft artening, the soft yeah, yes,
the soft opening coming up next week. Where do you
sit right knowing that full that times it can change
between now and the thirtieth? Are you stock up arch Manning?
Are you stock down arch Manning?
Speaker 6 (52:11):
Where are you on arch I've stock up arch Manning.
I'm not stock up on Texas. I just look, if
they lose to Ohio State in the opener, which isn't crazy,
and they lose at Georgia late in the season, which
is hardly crazy, they can't lose another game, and Oklahoma
is really good. So let's say Texas loses a tough
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one to Ohio State, they lose a tough one to Oklahoma,
and they lose at Georgia. Well we can rationally, we
can say, well, okay, they just lost the three of
the best teams in college football. Of course, they've belong
in a twelve team playoffs. In reality, in the college
football playoff era in the eleven years, if you didn't
have at least ten regular season wins, you're not in
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the thing. So I'm still not quite buying into the
whole Texas thing arch Manning. I keep asking people about him.
I have yet to hear a negative word. I mean,
he's just everyone loves the guy.
Speaker 5 (53:08):
He gets it.
Speaker 6 (53:08):
He's that good, he's that talented. He literally since birth,
he's been preparing for this. He knows who he is,
he knows who his last name is. He still acts
like one of the guys.
Speaker 5 (53:19):
Apparently.
Speaker 6 (53:19):
He's got just this great sense of humor that just
everyone gets fall in love with. And if he lights
up Ohio State to start the season, then this is
the year of Arch Manning. But I actually am buying
into the idea that he's not going to be the
top guy in the draft next yearcause he might stay
around like his brother as a uncle did. So this
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is going to be the year of arch Manning. I
just I'm not sold to Texas As. This be all
end all number one that everyone's putting him at.
Speaker 1 (53:47):
He's on Twitter at Pete Futech, that is at Pete Futech,
starting a string of meeting and coming on with us
every week and previewing and breaking down college football. Pete,
hope you had a bad summer glad you're back man,
we'll talk to you next week.
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
Step right up, Ben, sweep the Mets.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
I just kill yourself.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
The Mets are swinging in missing that ball. The other
team's home runs over the wall.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
This isn't entertaining anymore.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I would really like, you know, here's my favorite. I
ask for so little, right, I asked for so little here.
I would really like if the Mets are going to
lose this game right where where you know? They will
allowed five and the seventh to the Mariners. They're losing eleven,
nine and the ninth inning. If they're gonna lose, lose
before the Dodgers Padre starts. Okay, so I can have
a clean slate for the biggest baseball.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Series of the year.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
All right, I don't want to have this hanging If
you're gonna lose, I don't want it hanging over me
and have to worry about going back and forth everything
I like lose so I can go right to Padres Dodgers.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Well, I mean, you gotta have a little bit of
suffering in you gotta pay for your sins.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
What do you what do you think it's been all suffering?
What are you talking about.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
To Yeah, a level brated Beatles day and everything.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Yeah, yeah, that's great, and another l and another it's
gonna be another.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Yet yeah, okay, Well, I mean it's inevitable. As he
walks the bas is full, of course it is, of
course it is.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
It's I mean, if you're gonna, I mean, I may
just I may just have to pull the plug and
just go over to Padres Dodgers and in uh in
six minutes, I just have to do it. So you know,
it's sorry, I gotta just go.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
I gotta.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
I'm sorry, I can't anymore.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Iguez hits a grand slam on you, But then I'm
gonna throw my TV out the window, which is one
of my favorite gifts is the guy that yanks's TV
out of the wall and throws the window.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Throw yourself out the window. They're so bad.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
The better one is just going back to the old
Elvis theory of having a long line of TVs and
waiting and if you didn't like what was on, you'd
just shoot it.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Yeah no, but here's it, shoot it now. But here's
the thing is is I don't really I don't really care.
I can't do that because you know the Knicks. I mean,
come on, this is gonna be our year, right, this
is how we go to the finals.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
It gives you a couple of months to replace it.
Give me that a bigger TV. Look, you got out
of the inning, first ball, swinging Rodriguez lines to write.
Now you get you just need three in the bottom
of the ninth.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Man, I'll tell you, well, all right, let I'll take two.
I'll take two. I'll also take a quick one two
three so I can get over to Padres. Dodgers.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Really, I mean this screen experience, let's go. I mean,
so this is the baseball series of the year. There
has not been one bigger where the Dodgers somehow enter
this series trailing by a game. In the NL West,
it has been a trade deadline where The Padres have
just continued their hot play. They've added to their bullpen.
(03:08):
They're closing games out. They're bringing relievers in the third inning.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Even in shutout games when the starting pitchers given up
no hits and hasn't thrown a ball, they're still going
to the bullpen and the third they are winning. This
is they are playing as well as they have. The
Dodgers are questionable. If this is a Padres sweep, and
clearly you look at which team is playing better going
in like that, that that might that might basically have
(03:33):
the Dodgers have to settle for a wild card if
this is a four game lead coming out, and I
can't say it's not gonna happen even Look, Dodgers are
home everything. But the Dodgers aren't playing well. They got
problems up and down the lineup, problems with pitching. The
Padres have none, which is clearly means the Dodgers will
get five in the first and win this game nine
to one. But look what you're doing, You're you're salting
them away before the saltiest of them all, Clayton Kershaw
(03:55):
takes the mound and throws that first pitch at seven
to ten, seven eleven, not seven or nine seven ten.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Because he's salty. You're talking sweep already. I mean, that's
that's dangerous stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
You don't think if you're Manny Machado, you're fighting some
way to delay the start of the game by a
minute to get so seven eleven. There's another minute when
Kershaw throws.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
The trying to get under his skin, like you start
walking up towards the batter's box, and so you got
a cramp in your cap allegedly.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Oh yeah, give me a second, give me a second.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Oh for a second.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Yeah yeah, And they bring out the the the what
the cold stuff that they spray on.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
They need the band in the whole nine yards hold.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
But the trainer says, listen, it is nothing. It's just
like al just it just protects you. Don't worry. It's nothing.
I just here you go. Okay, very good, you get
up there. It hit all right, that's fantastic, all right.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Yeah, eight and a half runs is the was the open.
It's up to nine and a half. As we get
ready for first pitch.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
It's seven twelve. We can start now. He's never gonna
get out of the first inning. Uh this again, this
is some again biggest baseball series of the year. Nothing
else has closed. Padres Dodgers just a few minutes away.
Will of course keep you up to on this throughout the.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Stats stats on Kershaw. If it does get delayed, how
does that?
Speaker 1 (05:07):
I don't, I don't. I don't. You know what I
would have to ask Ai, But I don't think it's good.
I don't. I don't think it's good. What what happens
when Kershaw? Okay, what happens? Okay, it auto filled for me?
What happened to Odell Beckham Junior? Right, that's the auto film.
That's what happens when Kershaw has a game start late.
(05:30):
Let's see. The answer is uh, it makes him difficult
to regain his ramp up. It could lead to a
shortened outing, with the team opting to use the bullpen
to cover the longer duration of the game. Basically, Frostburg,
you're screwed. There you go, there's a that I'm not
a nuts fan.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Yeah, but there was no specificity to that at all.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 4 (05:53):
No, no, not you the way.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Yeah, he's screwed.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
If they start the game late. I just read it.
The whole thing off of Ai what happens when the
game starts late.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
AI also has the Mets winning tonight.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
They did get in one hundred and thirteen bucks for
this game, Oh boy, fifty strong as the Dodgers host
the Podgers.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
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two preseason games in the NFL tonight, and it's really
hard to do this. I mean, first, while we got
Kansas City, Seattle is just underway. Titans lead the Falcons
right now, twenty three to twenty late in the fourth court.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
And the Chiefs are already cheating.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
This is already they they're giving it. They gave them
a first down. They said Mahomes got late hit on
a handle.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
They don't even have the ball. They gave them a
first down.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
But this is really hard to do, Mike. But absolutely
this has happened the number one overall pick in the
NFL draft, who is a quarterback, has been absolutely invisible
and off the radar screen since the NFL draft.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Well drafted by Tennessee.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
But but still, though, I mean, this is this is
It's not you know, in the NBA, I get it
because you see that you need guys to start in
bigger markets. It happens that way. But the NFL, they
find you everywhere, They find you everywhere, and here's the
number one pick. And it's not like he's an offensive tackle,
it's a defensive end. This is a quarterback. It's about
a quarterback man and cam Ward who has been perfectly
(07:42):
acceptable so far. Right, he had an okay first game,
he had an okay first quarter tonight, you know, finished
two out of seven for forty two yards in limited play,
but still led the Titans down to a score in
the first quarter. Before he came out. Everything was you know,
he's been perfectly acceptable so far, and there has been
absolutely no buzz, no attention, no anything, nothing about the
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number one overall pick in the draft. And that that,
you know, in a in a time when not a
lot in the NFL shocks me. This does because it
shouldn't be no buzz on cam Ward. It's wild that
this is the case. Do we talk way more about
Shador Sanders, who is fourth string not playing this weekend
and all the drama that goes along with it with
(08:28):
the If you had a pie chart, it would be
ninety nine point nine nine percent of Shador Sanders in
the in the country. And the only reason it's point
point one percent cam Ward is because we're talking about
it right now. This is the first time he's been
mentioned since he got drafted. This is done, and he's
a quarterback and he's exciting, and he throws for a
lot of yards, and still it's like, oh, yeah, yeah,
(08:50):
how's cam.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Ward gonna do?
Speaker 1 (08:51):
He's let He's not even on page one of of
of you know, he's not even below the fold. He's
what beIN o'cook would say, it would be a page
f eight in the agate type on the bottom of
the page. That's how unimportant is That's how low. That's
how low cam Ward has been. And he's the number
one pick in the draft.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Yeah, I think a couple of things come into play, right.
We've been talking a lot about the veterans, you know,
the back stuff, with Matthew Stafford the last week or so,
Aaron Rodgers. For the longest time, was he going to play?
Where was he gonna go? Was the thing with Pittsburgh inevitable?
It ended up happening, and here we are, And then
you've got so many questions about the second year guys.
I mean, look at all the hot air being blown
(09:33):
about Caleb Williams. Just every every day, it's a new headline,
it's a new breakdown, it's a new Hey, maybe this
was an AI driven bot versus an actual source telling
you something about what's going on behind the scenes. Right,
You've got so much chaos and all of that, and
the Schador Sanders because of the surname and what we've
watched that takes up a bit of the pie chart.
(09:56):
Travis Hunter, how much is he going to play on
both sides of the ball. We gotta give it a
sliver off to him. So, yeah, cam Ward has been
able to operate in relative anonymity there in Tennessee. Not
often you get to do that as a number one pick.
But when last year's is drawing so much higher and
slinging ink in one of the big metroplexes, that's what
(10:17):
it does.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
I mean, just think about what the the preseason has
been so far as we get into week two, think
about what it's been so far, which has been basically
Shador Sanders has been the story. And you want to say,
what's the second story. Well, if there's drama with Jerry
Jones about paying or not paying Micah Parsons or Jerry
Jones saying something or doing something, or just general Cowboys
(10:41):
the Shenanigans, Right, that there's number two stayed in general.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Yeah, that's it. Really that that's been it like like
it's it. I know that the draft didn't go well
with a lot of big playmakers at the top, and
obviously Travis Hunter, you know we're waiting it's basically just
seeing him play both sides of the ball. But this
that's why I thought, for sure, well we're gonna at
least default to cam Ward that the number one pick
in the draft's gonna get something. Nope, Nope, he's even
(11:05):
he's even being looked over in every kind of dynasty
draft I'm doing in fantasy where he's the only quarterback
you're gonna take, And I'm seeing dynasty rookie drafts where
he's making it out of the first round, like no
one's even not to but he's a starting quarterback and
when you do Dynasty, it's it happens that way, like,
oh my goodness, no, no, no, he's making it out of
the NAA don't like Cam Woard going out of the
(11:25):
first round, number one pick of the draft. This is
how much it is, and I really it really shocks me.
I hope he has some sort of incredible run beginning
of the season. He bursts on the scene like Cam
Newton and all of a sudden, it's, oh my goodness,
he throws for four hundred yards and look at what
Cam Newton did?
Speaker 5 (11:43):
You know?
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Remember his first couple of games with the Panthers were
like eight hundred yards passing and Steve Smith had like
six hundred yards receiving. Like, I hope he does that
because he should be getting a little bit more of
the uh, the spoils that go along with being the
number one pick in the draft.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Yeah. I mean, look, it's good to not have the
spotlight be quite so loud and bright for you. But
you know, I get what you're saying. Let's see, they
are currently at plus seven seventy five to win the
AFC South one that we've discussed at at nauseum, going
back to some of the Jacksonville stuff and our discussion
(12:18):
of the Colts, and look, the Texans are the favorite,
but they're just minus one oh five, so not exactly
a prohibited favorite by any stretch of the imagination. So
you know, when things break right, you have the opportunity
to go make some noise. You got a couple of
playmakers in there, some decent wideouts that have been added
(12:39):
over the course of this offseason. We'll see what Calvin
Ridley's got. But you bring in Tyler Lockett. Van Jefferson
has shown as a third at spots. Now he's got
to take on a bigger role Tony Pollard. You lost
Spears to injuries, so keeping an eye on the running
back position behind Pollard. But you got some playmakers. Hell,
you got a guy named Gunner running at tight end
(13:00):
con Quo. He had a big game tonight, So yeah,
curiosity no question in that division. So maybe he'll start
getting some noise in some pub But you know, I
think most guys would rather come into their first camp
and be left alone as opposed to the constant headlines
and talking heads right to go, owing back to Denzel
(13:22):
Washington or going back to Shador Sanders trying to find
his guy Tony Grossi afterwards like hey, why do you
hate me? So all of that to say for cam Ward,
wish him the best. We certainly watched a lot of
his games the last couple of years in the studio
and he made his share of big plays. So with that,
(13:42):
he'll get his He'll just just do But for the
off season, sometimes it's okay to just go go do
your work behind the scenes.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
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Speaker 1 (14:02):
It is already been some kind of Friday, and we
still have a lot left to go here in football.
We'll get to Shador Sanders in a second. But sometimes
the scariest moments in sports bring out the best in us,
and that's clearly a case that unfortunately we saw and
then saw the reaction in tonight's preseason game between the
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Lions and the Falcons. This game was suspended and ended
early in the fourth quarter with the Lions winning seventeen
to ten after Maurice Norris the Lions is injured. Looked
very serious on a tackle he attempts to make. Norris
goes in to make the tackle. You see his head
kind of snap back. There's seizure activity in his legs
(14:44):
and right away personnel came out. They took him away
in an ambulance. Prayers up for him. Will have an
update on him as soon as we do in this game.
And it really was something I mean to see the
Lions and Falcons decide with each other. They held hands
around him as he was being tended to on the field,
and they decided we're not gonna play. And the next
(15:04):
play happened and the ball was snapped and the clock ticked,
and I don't know if there were still some unsuredness
as to what was going on on the field, it
was gonna happen, but both teams decided amongst themselves that's it.
This game is over. And that was the final snap
and they suspended the game with about fourteen minutes left
to go, the Lions and Falcons again deciding this right
(15:25):
after they watched Norris get taken off the field, And
again we'll have an update for you as soon as
we do. He was taken to the hospital, but the
two teams decided, okay, this game is done, and out
of respect for him. It was a very much a
Tomorrow Hamlin esque situation where we watched it and said, okay,
what's gonna happen? Now, Clearly fourteen minutes left in game
one of the preseason, there really is no need to
(15:45):
finish the game, and I am I am glad to
see humanity and concern for Norris kind of just take over.
And that's what we saw, and that's how the game ended.
You see the snap and players just kind of standing there,
going we're not gonna play. So this is kind of
the end of the game, and the game ended a
great moment of humanity and together it's an NFL brotherhood
between the Lions and the Falcons.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
I mean you talk about the the fraternity, right and
all the guys that we know and we've worked with
through the years. You watch games with them, and when
there's a moment of this nature, it still resonates on
that grand scale. And certainly you know with the type
of adrenaline and the way players have to be right
(16:28):
in terms of their readiness for that next play, and
certainly regular season, we know there'd be a suspension of
play and eventually they get back into it because of
the stakes in this particular case, you recognize what this
moment means, and against a preseason the fans understood it, right,
(16:50):
A lot of a lot of people emotional shown and
certainly outside the prayer circles and everything that flowed through.
So all thoughts with with Norris's family, his teammates and everybody,
but yeah, showing the humanity of this moment, much bigger stakes,
you know, in the injury as it occurred, takes the
(17:11):
the knee and to your point, Jason, Uh, the immediacy
of trainers, uh, quick acting personnel, and the credit to
you know, how quickly everybody mobilized and recognized the severity
of the moment. And then look, the game doesn't matter
at that point, right, It's all about, you know, putting
(17:34):
all the effort towards Norris and his his health and
getting him the help he needs.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
And and still I mean you hear it in my
voice as I'm saying it, because I watched the replay
a couple of times, probably one too many, because we
recognize the fragility of things when we talk about contact
sports at every level, and in the NFL, you know
here it is spotlight today. We've got a lot of
poz it is to talk about and the love of
(18:01):
the football being back, but also you know that grim
reminder of what can happen just so quickly and I'll
play yeah, I mean, it's.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Something you'll see and he goes in for a tackle
and it's a helmet to the knee and you see
as his head kind of snap back and and you know, look,
it's something. It's part of the game, and it's an
awful part of the game, and it's such an unfortunate
part of the game. And unfortunately we've seen it now
a couple of times over the course of the past
few years, and everybody's got their fingers crossed again. As
(18:31):
soon as we hear any moments on this, we will
let you know. But sometimes we respond to our most
difficult moments by displaying the best of us, and that
clearly was the Lions and the Falcons tonight again, this
game suspended with about fourteen minutes to go, seventeen to
ten game, and they're really it didn't seem to me
like there was any like there was any question that
(18:51):
that was they were going to do. Mike, Like I said, Okay,
they're going to do this and just line up and
say we're doing this far. They could have easily said look,
we're not doing it and made it some kind of
you know, walking off the field and there's a lot
of craziness and bizarreness and what's happening, or the teams
refusing to play. But by getting up there and saying, okay,
this play is gonna run the last fourteen minutes. Okay,
you know you're not gonna blow the whistle, and this
(19:12):
is this is how we're gonna do it. And I
thought stepping up and showing not just deciding hey we're
walking away, we're done, but to stand up and say hey,
we're doing this moment for you. This was kind of
an extra way to do it, because they easily could
have just said, hey, we're not gonna play. Okay, that's fine,
the coaches talk and where and we're gonna you go
to your sideline. You go to your sideline, we'll do
(19:32):
a quick congratulations and that's how it's gonna end. But
to say hey, we're snapping the football and not playing
for you. It's there. It was their way of doing
even a bigger moment for him on the field, which
I thought was, I mean, what a Again, sometimes these
these moments bring out the best in this and that
clear was. It was an incredible decision, uh, from the
from the Lions and Falcons on this. I can't say
(19:54):
enough about it.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Yeah, the recognition of what what's at play here, right,
the game gets minimized and we see this far too often,
happily not too much in the gale of how many
games are played, but it's, you know, still the severity
(20:16):
of it. You know, that recognition and that moment and
to your point, just going running out the clock. All right,
game's gone to Zeros. Let's go and let's put our
thoughts where they need to be.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
So again, we'll continue to update this story throughout the night. Again,
best thoughts to Norris's family lines as well. But look,
our business is sports and we go to the biggest
story coming into tonight on the field when we talk
about a big level of interest. We saw the debut
of Shador Sanders tonight for the Cleveland Browns, and look,
(20:52):
I'll be honest, game had ended thirty to ten. There's
two things for this game, right right, There's two things.
There's there's the first one is what we think of
about Schador Sanders, and then the second part is reality.
And you know, I kept thinking of this tonight. I knew, Okay,
Sanders is gonna come out and he's gonna and he's
gonna play. He's gonna go ball to the wall, right
like he know this is his chance to win the job.
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He wants to show everybody I'm the guy that you
thought I was in college. I'm not a fifth round pick.
I need to seize this job. I'm getting a chance here.
And I kept thinking of that, that Herb Brooks moment
from Miracle when he starts his speech to the guys
and he says, and uh, Kurt, I just hear it
in Kurt Russell's voice now when he says, great moments
are born from great opportunity, and that's you have here tonight, gentlemen,
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that's what you've earned tonight, right, And I thought, and
I thought, that's exactly the deal for Shador Sanders. All
this craziness, all the Browns is setting him up to fail.
No Browns will put him out there to play like
there he's the only guy healthy enough to play. He's
been there for a minute and a half. I mean,
what the hell that more analysis is there than that
he's one of your four guys, right, Okay, So this
is how it's gonna go. And he goes out and
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in the beginning he did some good things, and he
did some rookie things. Okay, you had a great scramble
for a first down, you know, a couple of bad decisions,
you know, trying to run around like he would have
done in college when clearly, okay, that doesn't happen in
the NFL. Is that the right of passage?
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Do you have to check that one on your Bingo card?
Speaker 5 (22:14):
Now?
Speaker 4 (22:15):
If you're a quarterback with any ability to move laterally,
that you have to do that play like it's a
video game. So Chris Berman would be able to go
whoop whoop nine times before the play ends.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
He said, hey, Russell Wilson, watch this. I've seen you
do this for a long time. You're ready. So he
did some things, He did some good things, and he
did some rookie things. And then the second quarter he
played extremely well. Right, two touchdowns, including this one. The
very first touchdown of Shador Sanders' NFL career. Take a listen, seven.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Year veteran Treyyon Williams in the backfield, play fake to
him Sanders looking throwing down Payden Davis, Shadoor Sanders. Here's
welcome to the n NFL.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Browns Rose Chris Rose on Brown's TV with the call. There, Yes,
that Chris Rose with the call the first of two
touchdowns by Shador Sanders for the night, fourteen out of
twenty three, one hundred and thirty eight yards and two touchdowns.
Right now, here's here's the thing, because people got I mean,
there's nothing crazier than what people even after Shadoor Sanders
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when he handed the ball off the first time. Oh,
that was a great handoff by Schendor's head. What a
great handoff by Schador Sanders. He absolutely played well enough
to keep the gig. Like what do we say the
other night? If he plays well enough, let him run
with it. Right, you don't need to say he's the
starter and there's a again, there's a bigger conversation, but
for right now, the results, what we saw in this game,
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there is no reason to say, hey, okay, Joe Flacco
you go back to get all the reps. No, let
Shador run with a little bit. You know, I always
say the same thing, and you saw it. They said
it on the broadcast A lot to night. What do
I say? I look for a quarterbacks the first and
the most important thing that the game is not too
big for them, and that it's not too much. It's
not too okay. The game is going really fast right now,
the old Bill Parcells line, I want to see if
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rookie's eyes get real milky in the lights, and they
it's a it's a twister, Andy yem Aniem And it wasn't.
And he made some big throws and he got more
comfortable as the game went on. There is no reason
to not allow him to continue to run with the
ones and get the lion's share of the reps and
continue on here and act as the de facto number
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one quarterback. Look, Joe Flacco has been around a lot.
They interviewed him during the game. He talked about his
comfort level with the offense and how well Schador Sanders
is playing. And that's awesome. You don't need to see
Joe Flacco, right you You tell Joe Flacco. Look, Joe
here's a deal. You know, we have these rookie quarterbacks, Cinger,
you know where you're at, and he understands, we're gonna
let your door go here a little bit and run
with this job. And then we see where we're at.
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We have we have a long preseason, got another couple
of weeks to go, We got a month before the
beginning of the season starts. We're gonna give him a
little bit more of an opportunity, and Joe Flacco's got
to understand that if he doesn't, it doesn't matter. I mean,
you see, Shador Sanders absolutely was the guy we thought
he would be when we thought he was the second
overall picking the draft, going behind cam Ward. There is
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no reason to not say, shaudor you were great. You're
gonna continue to run with the ones. You are now
running as the number one quarterback with the Cleveland Browns
for this summer. And I don't think there's any way
you can come out of this and not do that
for him. I don't see how you don't.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Well, in the end, the other guys aren't healthy enough
to run anyway, So by default, I think he's gonna
get some more run here. You know, look, you play
against who's on the field with you, whether they're the
ones for the Panthers or twos or threes or whatever
it is. Panthers aren't great anyway, So grain of salt
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with somebody. I'm not trying to pour water on the
notion of what he accomplished. Those throws were great. I
want to give a lot of nod on that first
touchdown pass to the concentration of the receiver as the
ball with between a couple of defenders to not have
that either bounce off his face mask or sail through
his hands. Good job by him. The second great throw
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that he made down the sideline on the fingertips, Hey,
you got to give a guy a chance to make
a play where the defenders aren't and he did that.
What it means long term, like the hyperbole is going
to be there, I'm certainly not pouring a giant bucket
of water on it because it's a great first step. Right,
you have the growth moments of the scramble plays and
(26:31):
the chaos there, and then you settle in and take
advantage of what's afforded to you by the defense. How
that gets read by the professionals in the room and
when they go back to evaluate it in the post.
That's on them, you know. For us being loud mounts
on the radio, I'm like, hey, I want to see more,
all right, add more to it.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
Right.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
It's like, you know, we discussed and had a little
disagreement with the Anthony Richardson stuff yesterday. In the end,
you got to pile it up and see how much
he can take, you know, in terms of acumen and
what he still needs to learn and develop, and try
to put him in an opportunity to see that growth.
And for now, Joe Flacco, we know what he is.
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He's gonna come in, he's gonna wing the ball around,
and there's gonna be some great moments. There's gonna be
some terrible moments. Oh wait, isn't that what you expect
from a rookie quarterback that you.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Drafted in the fifth round.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
In the end, you're aspirations other than Miles Garrett Stowe
in the company line because he's you know, got a
massive ass check stick it out of his back pocket. Yeah,
super Bowl baby, It's like everybody else recognize it. It's
a train wreck. So if you can go and get
him some meaningful reps and get a true evaluation. I
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don't see why you wouldn't once you get to the
regular season. I guess in September you still have to
sell hope, which is why you see Flacco or Picket
at that point. But even still, we got a lot
of football that needs to be played here, Jason. I'm
sure several teams are going to have a quarterback that
comes up a little less than one hundred, so all
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of a sudden, one of those guys could be a
viable trade option.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
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Speaker 1 (28:18):
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Call sixty two. He is a Hall of Fame voter.
Jake Call, what's happening?
Speaker 5 (28:32):
Man?
Speaker 1 (28:32):
How are you?
Speaker 5 (28:33):
How am I going to get through? It really is
like a New York but sports teams by, isn't it?
It is?
Speaker 1 (28:40):
But for one week the Jets were great in all
facets of the game. They were great justin fields was great.
The running game was great, the defense was great. This
may be as good as it gets.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
Maybe about it real, Yes, this is as good as
it gets. When when the other team doesn't game plan
or design a defense for Justin Grims. Yeah, he can
look pretty good. That's definitely true. Hey, he could even
be very good, maybe even Hall of Famish, if you
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don't have a if you don't game plan against him. However,
once you actually game plans, things changed. That's how football works.
That's strange that happens.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Yeah, that's why I said this is as good as
it's going to get. I'm okay with it.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
Well, this is this is like my friends who it
was friends who were Giants fans, and he was sending
out texts Jackson Dart looking so great, looks stop just
to stop, and I immediately dug out the headline of
Daniel Jones's first, uh first exhibition games, and it's like,
(30:01):
Daniel Jones looks sharp for Giants and debut. Yeah, that's
how good things go. The rookie quarterback always looks sharp
when he's playing against teams that don't actually play defense.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
So much. For that shoot or Sanders question, I was
going to.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
Ask, that's how that's how this always works. It's really
that's how it works.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
No, but I'm telling you now, I'm going to make
you even happier than you were last week. I have
to re think my bold prediction that they're going to
start all four quarterbacks this year. They're now going to
start five quarterbacks this year. Because we talked about that five. Well,
now they're getting five. We said four, but now we
got five. We got five.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
Last week. They had last week, and I said, you're
up to five.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Now it's clearly going to be five. Sanders is hurt,
Picking is hurt. Yeah, now it's going to be five.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
I have very little doubt of that because it's the Brands,
and it doesn't really matter how many games they play,
Like they could only play five games and they would
play five from quarterbacks because there the Brown.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
And then it would be Derek Anderson twice. No, I
see exactly how it's going to work for you.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
Derek Anderson.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
That two thousand and seven season with him and Braylan
Edwards was magical for fantasy.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
Well it really actually it really was. And you forget
that Jojo Vicious was really really good that year too,
Like he was maybe the best third down receiver in
the league that year. I think he tried like forty
passes on third down that year. He's really really good.
Like the whole offense just clicked for a little while,
(31:49):
like all of a sudden, we were like, oh, Romeo
Pronell can really be a great head coach.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
And I was like, no, not really, no, no, now, no, no,
you'll see time will bear me out on it. It'll
be fine. He'll be with Jason Cole with us here
at Fox Sports Radio, Jason Smith, Mike Carmon, All right, now,
I want this is what this is. Believe it or not.
There is a question I've wanted to ask you since
Week one of the preseason. Okay, all right, we watched
(32:19):
we watched Cam Little kick a seventy yard field goal
in the preseason right for Jacksonville, which is like, whoa,
this is not just sixty five, sixty six, this is seventy.
And I want to say, if I said to you,
if you what, what do you think is the absolute
longest any kicker, whoever you think is the best kicker
(32:40):
in the NFL. What's the longest field goal you can
see somebody making. Now that we've seen somebody in the
preseason it won from seventy.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
Well in a live situation, live situation, live, Well that was.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
A live situation. It was the preseason, but it was
a life Yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:54):
Yeah, I mean I just didn't know if you're like
saying I was, if we just like have a like
field goal contest.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Want to hear about that that's what the problem can do?
That they can do that?
Speaker 5 (33:07):
Well, I mean obviously got made it, so somebody's going
to be willing to try it, you know, depending on
the kicker. But there are some factors that go with it,
and that is, are you playing indoors? Are you playing
in a warm weather stadium? And you don't attempt these
kinds of kicks unless a you're in a desperation situation
where you're try and tie the game on the last
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play and you think and you think you have a
kicker can do it, or it's the last play of
a first half and you're going to give it a shot.
But even then it's dangerous. Because I was at the
game between the Giants and the Bears where Tom Kauflin
and one of the rare mistakes that Tom Coughlin made
(33:51):
from a strategic standpoint, try a really long feeling a lawyer.
Remember it was like sixty something yards and that's the
one that Devin has to return for one hundred and
eight yards famously, and you know, I think Ernie, Ernie,
of course he lost his mind because it's like, why
would you do that here in the wind and all
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those other things. So, I mean it really conditions happy perfect.
So you end up with only like maybe the course
of the season, a dozen situations where this can happen.
And again, what's your weather, like, are you playing indoors?
I mean you can't, you really can't do it once
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the weather starts to turn in late October November, because
it's the ball is just not going to travel. So
you know, I think you got probably yeah, you have
maybe five or six realistic opportunities for it in a
given season where somebody might try it. And even then
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you better have a really good, really good unit for
cub because if that ball is short, it's going to
come back out because that guy's going to get ahead
of team and he's going to be out to about
the twenty five or thirty yards in a hurry. And
on top of your coverage, stam.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
So since you referenced Chicago. Let's let's go there. What
do you make of all the noise surrounding Caleb Williams
Ben Johnson? We're watching net videos and everything else and
getting that extrapolated out.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
Upon you know, for Johnson, it's all going to happen.
It's all happening. It's happening right now.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
So over under eight and a half.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Wins, Well, no number of times Caleb Williams is benched,
that's that's the that's.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
The old no I was asking wins or touchdowns?
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Wow, number of former Bear stars who call for Caleb
Williams to be benched this year? Eight and a half?
What's the over over way way? Well, but you have
to find legend. Can just be someone who played for
the team. It's got to be signed up.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
It's different amongst the fans of a team. Right, there's
guys that you called it. The rest of the world laughs.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
At I were talking about just former quarterbacks of the Bears.
Then eight and a half is a good number. They
were taking that total total former players because Olden cruits, well,
Ollen Krutz is going to come out in his favor.
I think his only crup. I remember getting a semi
argument with Ollen cruits about who was that that draft
(36:29):
that they that they drafted instead of Mahomes? What was
it Trubisky? Yeah, yeah, when Travisky. You know, Trivisky had
like rare games where he was like twenty three or
thirty five and threw a couple of balls me into
the outside that actually looked decent, And I was like, okay,
(36:50):
had he had a decent game, But he's still not
very good. And Owen Krutz just came right after and
we go, oh, what do you know and what do
you use? It's like he's not very good, Like you
have to look at it realistically. And Creutz was a
great defender in that case. So I guess he's the
guy who's always going to stick up for what the
Bears do.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
But but I could find, like I could find like
Steve Fuller getting very upset and go up, there's one
Bears legend, Steve Fuller. Okay, got him?
Speaker 5 (37:18):
Yeah, see, I think Fuller leads the pack. I mean
you're going to get I think eight and a half
on quarterback Salon's good numbers. It's really good number I got.
But I definitely I definitely go over. I definitely go over.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
How do I get crouts into the Hall of Fame
while we're while we're on him.
Speaker 5 (37:36):
Yeah, that's gonna that. That's not gonna happen. I like
all crude, but yeah, it's not gonna happen. Just like that.
Speaker 4 (37:43):
Just dismiss me.
Speaker 5 (37:47):
The way the new rules are, it's gonna be so
hard to get more than three or four guys in
the Hall of Fame in a given year, which.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Well, you just have to have a very good career
when you get in the Hall of Fame. You don't
need to be great. You used to be very good?
Speaker 5 (38:03):
Did you do? You know what the do we discuss
the new rules yet?
Speaker 4 (38:07):
No?
Speaker 1 (38:08):
What did they tell you? You have to be well? About? Sure?
They said, hey, they have to be at least very
good and then they're eligible. Okay, great, that's the new rule.
Speaker 5 (38:15):
No, no, this is actually a realistic thing, and it's
a real problem because a lot of dudes you're going
to get to get in? Are you going to have
a hard time? We're we're going to have a real
backlog of players here in three or four years. Where
are you're going to go That guy really actually does
deserve to get in but can't get in because what
they did is instead of us going from we used
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to go from the you'd have the group of fifteen
that you would argue about, and you cut that group
down from fifteen to ten, and then you would cut
them from ten to five. And it was kind of
became a rubber stamp of those five we're going to
get in, right. And that went on for a few years,
and then there was a bunch of whining and complaining,
especially after the Blue Ribbon year that they put all
(39:00):
the seniors in, which that was a massive mistake because
that caused the whole Hall of very good argument when
we were letting in Harold Carmichael and the Drew Pearson's
of the world.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Carmichael, I think I know what happened there is he
was supposed to be in the Tall of Fame and
they actually put.
Speaker 5 (39:20):
Yeah, yeah, that was welcome to the layup drill for stuff.
So yeah, you keep going with the radio layup drills, okay.
But the overreaction to that was to do this where
we instead of cutting down from ten to five we
come from, we cut down from ten to seven and
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then the seven. In order to get to gain entry,
you have to get at least eighty percent. Well, there's
fifty voters. There's two hundred and fifty votes because each
of us gets to vote for five. If you have
a guy, like a couple of guys who are like
unanimous pitch, like a Drew Brees is going to be
pretty much a un analyst pick this year, all of
(40:03):
a sudden, you take out fifty of those votes, you
probably take out another forty five for the next best guy,
and you're not less with a lot of votes for
the last five guys. I think this year we only
put in three under the new system. I think that
three is going to be more typical, and it's going
to be hard to get to four and almost impossible
(40:26):
to get to five. So there's actually going to be
guys because the problem with the process is not the
modern day guys. The problem with the process is the
senior guys that you and I talked about or we
talk about that are borderline and those are the guys
who keep getting in where everybody's looking around going that
(40:48):
is in now like seriously, like like Chuck Howligan, but
like he's he's not even like a cowboy B, like
he's a cowboy C. That's you know, like and that
served along the lines of your Tall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Layup Dill, layup Jill, the congratulations for the lamp till,
although that also assumed everybody knew who Harold Carmichael was.
Speaker 4 (41:12):
Yeah, right, come on a label.
Speaker 5 (41:15):
That's the whole point that Harold Carmichael got in the
Hall of Fame. And I remember Harold Carmichael is a
very good player, and he was very tall. It's very tall.
He's very He set some record for most games, like
consecutive games with the catch, like I don't know, two
hundred or something like that, you know, notable achievement. But
I always look back at going Look, I grew up
(41:37):
a Rams fan, and Harold Jackson was better than him.
And Harold Jackson does not belong in the Hall of Fame.
Like Harold Jackson was probably better than Drew Pearson doesn't
belong in the Hall of Fame. That's Drew Pearson had
some moments, no question about it. But like we've sort
of softened that line with some of the old time guys,
(41:57):
and when we put in twenty of them in one
year because we thought that there was some backlog of
these guys have to get in. It's like no, no, no,
they don't have to get in. They didn't get voted
in during their careers because they weren't quite good enough,
you know, Like that's that's how this works. But now
we're punishing guys who, like, I don't know that Tory
(42:19):
Holt or Reggie Wayne are going to get in the
Hall of Fame anytime soon. Like they may take those
guys another five or ten years to get in the
way that the system is set up. And Reggie Wayne
and Tory Holt are guys who I think are definitely
Hall of Fame guys. They're not. They're way better than
(42:40):
Drew Pearson's and Harold Carmichaels of the world.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
He's on Twitter at Jason cole sixty two. That is
at Jason Coleson.
Speaker 5 (42:46):
That was That was way too serious, man, That was
that was very serious.
Speaker 4 (42:50):
It was very somuch fantastic. Well, you did get a
cowboy bes and that was good.
Speaker 5 (42:54):
That was not bad. That's not bad. Now we're gonna
talk about Jerry this week.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
This well, well we'll get to Jerry, don't we go
in my way?
Speaker 5 (43:04):
Terrible's surviving, he is, You're surviving.
Speaker 4 (43:09):
We're cowboy bees. Any part of that treatment.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Speaker 1 (43:22):
Walking through our door right now, nobody better to chop
this up with than the editor proprietor Grand Pooba of
College Footballnews dot com. You're one stop shopping for everything
college football. Longtime front of the show, Pete Futech. He
is on Twitter at Pete Futech. Right now he is
feuding with people who say Tim Tebow is the greatest
(43:43):
quarterback in college football history. It is Pete Feutech. What's happening?
Speaker 6 (43:47):
Man, Hey, buddy, hey, he was, whether we all want
to believe it or not.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Sy Oh no, I'm with you. He absolutely was.
Speaker 6 (43:55):
I ever saying I never liked the act, I never
thought the thing, but I will admit to greatness where
I must, and so I would admit to it there.
Speaker 5 (44:03):
So let me ask you this.
Speaker 6 (44:04):
Let's start out our show.
Speaker 5 (44:06):
Cause segment with this.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
OK.
Speaker 6 (44:08):
Have they ever did the Fab five actually go to
a Final four or two or a national championship or two?
Or is that not been acknowledge yet or is that
still considered tainted.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
I know, if everybody remembers a Fab five in the
National Championship game, I think people still remember that.
Speaker 5 (44:27):
But but it didn't exist, right, right.
Speaker 6 (44:30):
They took down the beat, they took down the pieces
of cloth in the in the in the arena, so
it obviously never happened. And if it did, well, then
you know it's tainted. It's you know, you're supposed to
feel bad about yourself when you remember those days, right.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
I mean, repete, could they have done something and taken
away the National Championship have done that? Yeah, but I
feel like you had three years. You had three years
to try to prove this. In the fact, I'm sorry
the Connor Stallions found a way to outsmart you when
you couldn't get the evidence, and that boy, I really
want to be investigated by the NSA if I do
something wrong, because they're not gonna find anything because I'm
(45:09):
a little bit smarter than him, and boy, look at
what he was able to do. I'm just glad that
it's over, you know, because again, they could have done
something bigger a couple of years ago. They could have said, hey,
this is a big deal, we're gonna ban you from
winning the Big Ten or ban you from postseason play
this year. They could have done something pretty strong for
one year, but instead, no, no, we're gonna wait and
try to get all the proof we can. They couldn't
(45:30):
get any So now, yeah, here's a twenty million dollar
fine and a suspension you were going to give to
your coach anyway.
Speaker 6 (45:36):
There was a window of about four weeks where when
when it all hits a fan, when when they're like,
wait a minute, this, you know, there's nothing illegal here,
and technically there still is it there they're actually getting
nailed for other stuff because there was never any rules
against this. It might have been an American, but there
was never anything that said you are not allowed to
(45:57):
do this. Others that have us you know you're not
except you're not allowed to scout in the stadium, but
that's if you're an official.
Speaker 5 (46:02):
Capacity blah blah blah.
Speaker 6 (46:04):
But like, the only way this would have worked had
it would have been for the Big Ten at the
time to have said no, Michigan is not eligible to
play for the Big Ten championship, and then it would
have been up to the College Football Playoff commit to
decide what it would wanted to have done with that,
which they could have still said, Hey, we're going to do.
Speaker 5 (46:22):
Our job is to come for the four.
Speaker 6 (46:23):
Best teams and that's this year's Michigan teams. And to
your point, all the screaming, all these coaches like, oh
yeah we knew this was happening. Well too bad. You
know where were you then? And also to your point,
Robins racing son I you you know, people really mad
about this are like, well, we didn't think of it first.
Speaker 5 (46:43):
Or do it as well?
Speaker 6 (46:44):
So I I it's not right, it's not good. But
like this, you know, what are you doing twenty twenty million?
I mean you Michigan types have that, you know in
your pockets, you know, and couch cushions. That's that's nothing. Okay,
you're you're suspending your own more against central directional something
or other. And no, if Jim Harbaugh wants the coach
(47:06):
in the college football again, yeah he's coming back. And
if someone says, well you gotta say, you know, you
gotta save yourself, no, yes, who's gonna say no to him?
You can still hire him. There's no east to this,
like it's just like a bunch of blah blah blah
and ball gets kicked off in seven days from well.
Speaker 4 (47:25):
That's it, right, just tie up the bow and let
people gripe for a week and then we'll have a
kickoff and everybody will say squirrel and that's the end.
Speaker 5 (47:33):
Of it exactly.
Speaker 6 (47:35):
And then you know, but oh no, this only g
oh it hainted. Now feel bad about yourselves. Michigan fans, Yeah, okay,
like yeah, that that'll work. Oh I File State fans,
you win. Oh no, you didn't beat that. That there
wins over.
Speaker 5 (47:51):
You don't count now.
Speaker 6 (47:52):
No, it's just it's so silly.
Speaker 4 (47:56):
But that's the end game, right is we're looking twenty
million dollars plus whatever. It's a tenth of your operating budget.
Get Steven Ross or someone uh to cut a check.
Here's Tom Brady from one of his card shops. Boom
uh no postseason ban, none of that and more has
to miss a couple of games. I think you'll take
a national title and a couple of bad headlines from blogs.
(48:17):
I mean, it's just shows how toothless everything is at
this point, and to the larger collegiate world.
Speaker 6 (48:26):
I mean, you did touch on the one big thing
you touched on the what no postseason banned? Like taking
away scholarships doesn't matter anymore in an NIL world, so
you can't. So the only real thing that they could
have done is said, you know what, You're not gonna
give you a death penalty or but we're gonna say
you can't play in the college football playoff or a
(48:47):
Big Ten championship for the next however many years. But
at this point in the business world of college athletics,
you do that, and five seconds later you're getting calls
from grape Vine, Texas, and Bristol, Connecticut and in all
these places like, ah, you want to take Michigan. We
got billions of dollars invested in this whole Big Ten thing,
(49:08):
and you want to make Michigan a non entity. No
we're not, We're not doing that and this so try again.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
Now, Pete. The whole thing is that, like somebody could
have done something a year ago, two years or whatever
and it would have been over. And I feel like
like the NCA had a chance to do something. Clearly
there was evidence there there was something they could have done,
and now after three years, I just feel like, Okay,
I think everybody's just glad it's over. Like I think
(49:36):
they think that's the overwhelming thing takeaway. Okay, good, this
story went on. You know, people are going for their
four years at Michigan and they're going to say, yeah,
every year my coach was suspended for the first two
games of the year. Yeah, I mean saying that, like,
I'm just glad that this is done at this point.
Speaker 6 (49:51):
Yeah, I think so. And you know, now it's all
about you know, Ken Michigan actually winning now, and you know,
because it great year is a one, you know, one
great season built to that, and there's always something. But yeah,
it's I'm glad it's hopefully it's over. But you know,
of course, if you look on social media and stuff,
it'll never be over. But for the people who really matter,
(50:14):
I mean, remember, in my little, weird little world, it's
only a fraction of the people who care about this.
Ninety eight percent of the people who care about college
football are coming aboard right about now, and this is
when they start to care.
Speaker 4 (50:27):
All that to say they might actually have that quarterback
that they said Jim Harbond never did. Plus eight hundred
to win the Big Ten behind Ohio State, Penn State, Oregon.
Do they have a puncher's chance?
Speaker 6 (50:39):
Yeah, I mean, of course, because we don't know. Ohio
State's just a theory because last year it was they
had everyone, they were everyone back. Now they're replacing everyone.
We're assuming that they're just going to.
Speaker 5 (50:52):
Replace all this talent that was built up over.
Speaker 6 (50:55):
Years and years and years, and they're just there's assuming
that all of ju and Sayan is going to be
the next great Ohio State quarterback because he might be.
You know, they didn't go after anybody, so okay, he
might be that good. And that's that's a lot to ask.
But Oregon's still very, very good. But that's assuming that
Dante More is going to be great at quarterback and
(51:17):
be the next big thing. I still think if if
penns if the talent, it's at Penn State right now.
If you took the Penn State team and put him
at Alabama or Georgia or Ohio State, nobody else gets
the number one vote just there. They have the most talents,
the most experienced. Now they have Ohio State defensive coordinator.
(51:38):
They have everything in place to be the number one team,
accept the respect of a wanting nation who thinks that
James Franklin cannot win a game.
Speaker 5 (51:48):
So that's all that's missing.
Speaker 1 (51:49):
Here all right, so pete, lastly, here we are. We're
getting We're creeping closer and closer to opening two week
zero in college football, the soft artening, the soft yeah, yes,
the soft opening coming up next week. Where do you
sit right knowing that full that times it can change
between now and the thirtieth? Are you stock up arch Manning?
Are you stock down arch Manning?
Speaker 6 (52:11):
Where are you on arch I've stock up arch Manning.
I'm not stock up on Texas. I just look, if
they lose to Ohio State in the opener, which isn't crazy,
and they lose at Georgia late in the season, which
is hardly crazy, they can't lose another game, and Oklahoma
is really good. So let's say Texas loses a tough
(52:32):
one to Ohio State, they lose a tough one to Oklahoma,
and they lose at Georgia. Well we can rationally, we
can say, well, okay, they just lost the three of
the best teams in college football. Of course, they've belong
in a twelve team playoffs. In reality, in the college
football playoff era in the eleven years, if you didn't
have at least ten regular season wins, you're not in
(52:53):
the thing. So I'm still not quite buying into the
whole Texas thing arch Manning. I keep asking people about him.
I have yet to hear a negative word. I mean,
he's just everyone loves the guy.
Speaker 5 (53:08):
He gets it.
Speaker 6 (53:08):
He's that good, he's that talented. He literally since birth,
he's been preparing for this. He knows who he is,
he knows who his last name is. He still acts
like one of the guys.
Speaker 5 (53:19):
Apparently.
Speaker 6 (53:19):
He's got just this great sense of humor that just
everyone gets fall in love with. And if he lights
up Ohio State to start the season, then this is
the year of Arch Manning. But I actually am buying
into the idea that he's not going to be the
top guy in the draft next yearcause he might stay
around like his brother as a uncle did. So this
(53:40):
is going to be the year of arch Manning. I
just I'm not sold to Texas As. This be all
end all number one that everyone's putting him at.
Speaker 1 (53:47):
He's on Twitter at Pete Futech, that is at Pete Futech,
starting a string of meeting and coming on with us
every week and previewing and breaking down college football. Pete,
hope you had a bad summer glad you're back man,
we'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 6 (53:59):
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