BONUS CONTENT -Jason Smith & Ryan Hollins fill in on The Dan Patrick Show

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Similar to the NBA, we have an all star break
of our own it's almost like spring break. Samely, Dan Patrick,
he's not here, something's missing, but filling in. We have
a couple of rising stars of our own. Come on,
we didn't come to the game to see that. Jason
Smith and Ryan Holly's greetings and welcome inside The Dan

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Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio. Jason Smith, Ryan Hollins
in for Dan today My show heard nights here on Fox.
Checkout Ryan as well on Twitter at the Ryan Hollins
coming up in a few minutes. We'll get into Duke's
big victory last night, that come from behind wind that
nobody saw coming. Louisville is working them in the second

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half there, up by twenty and the next thing you know,
people on social media are saying, wait, Duke one, wait,
wait wait, I turned it off. I need that app
that tells you when to tune back into the game.
Duke with a huge comeback and victory. Also, the Lakers
fall under five hundred for the first time since earlier
in the season. Lebron James says he hopes that the

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Lakers can use this All Star break to get away
and refocus and repurpose. Maybe they're returning with a new coach.
I mean Lebron didn't say that, I mean I did.
I mean, I'm thinking that's what's gonna happen, Lebron's and
all the other stuff about that. The Lakers under five hundred,
they lose to the Atlanta Hawks, and that fourth quarter
of that game last night that really set basketball back
about fifty years. That was one of the worst quarters

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of basketball you could possibly see. It was like a
Knicks game, I mean, my goodest, but at least like
that from the Knicks. I mean, I'd expect that from
the Lakers. Well from the Hawks, Okay, so you kind
of can't expect it from both things, but not so
much with Lebron. There was a stretch in the fourth
quarter of the Lakers could have got back into this
game where their possessions went turnover miss miss miss miss turnover,

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turnover missmiss miss turnover, and that was the ballgame. Lakers
again fall under five hundred for the first time since
earlier this year as they head to the All Star break.
But we have some big NFL stories to get to.
We're gonna kick things off with first. And now it's
finally official, I mean officially official. Forget about all the

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other stuff you heard in the off season when you
knew Antonio Brown wanted to be traded. No, now it
is absolutely official. Antonio Brown has officially requested a trade
from the Pittsburgh Steelers. This first reported by ESPN on Tuesday. Now,
maybe if you're like me, when you woke up yesterday
you saw the newsboy Antonio Brown convicted of driving Hunters

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h not in court for this, okay, And then later
on is Hey, I gotta spin the narrative. I gotta
turn it away from you know, I gotta call you know,
hundred miles and hours is really embarrassing. Hey, guess what
I officially want to trade? He said? It is quote
time to move on and forward, tweeting a farewell to
the fans of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Thank you Stealer Nation

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for a big nine years. Time to move on and
forward hashtag new demands. Now, obviously, we knew this day
was coming. We knew that Antonio Brown was gonna wind
up being a member an ex member of the Steelers,
because that was the way things had gone. It was
last month that Art Rooney told reporters that something changed
with him the last week of the season, when Antonio

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Brown didn't show up for the last game of the
year against the Bengals, and this is what is pushed
and predicated what's going on this offseason. So first things first,
why does this happen with Antonio Brown? You know why.
He's been very charismatic but at times maddening for the
Steelers who have pretty much just and tired of his
act over the past few years. Routinely late for meetings.

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Some of the players say, Okay, we didn't really care
about that because he really produced on Sunday and always
bawled out and that was awesome. Got to stay in
a separate airbnb during training camp, didn't have to sweat
it out in the dorms. Some players were upset. Others said, man,
I can't believe he pulled that off. But things started
to change when obviously you don't show up for a game.

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You know, this is the Steeler team that has lived
a lot of drama very publicly over the course of
the past couple of years, not just Antonio Brown, but
lave On Bell. You knew that Mike Tomlin tolerated Antonio
Brown and his act for a long time, whether it
was being late to meetings all the time. Some players say,
I don't recall him being in a Wednesday meeting at
all in the in the year I was with the team,

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and he was very upset with Facebook Live when he
facebook live this his postgame speech when Tomlin said some
things about the Patriots that have gone viral and stuff
we still play on Fox Sports Radio to this day,
so you know, he was kind of upset with him,
tired of his act. Antonio Brown middle of the season,
got upset with Ben Roethlisberger. Ben Roethlisberger likes to go
on the radio and say things, and he said during

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one game that the Steelers blew at the end. Hey,
I wish Antonio Brown had run a better pass route
in that, and that really upset Antonio Brown so much
so that the reason that we're hearing that Antonio Brown
wants out in Pittsburgh is because sources close to him
say he's tired of being the scapegoat for the Steelers

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problems and wants to show he can thrive in another offense.
All right, if you're driving in your car or if
you're listening, show of hands, if you have ever heard
anybody say Antonio Brown is the source of the Steelers problems,
REGI hand. No one's raising their hand. No one's Antonio Brown.
If you're listening, you're not allowed to raise your hand.
Whatever your whatever Airbnb you're staying, you're not allowed to
raise your hand. No one has ever blamed Antonio Brown

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for any of the problems the Steelers have. There's not
one game where the Steelers have lost. It was a
huge game that I go, boy, you know what they
really need Antonio Brown. I can't be Antonio Brown. He
was so bad in that game, not once, not once,
you know, because the guy shows up on Sundays. It's
not about Antonio Brown and getting the blame. This is

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all about Antonio Brown and his desire to just do
something different because, for whatever reason, he has had it
with the Steelers. He is the biggest drama queen in
the NFL, biggest the But you thought Levy on Belt
forget it. Antonio Brown is like making stuff up to
be mad about. You're mad that your quarterback said you

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should have run a better pass route. Okay, maybe not
the best thing for Roethlisberger to say, but it's not
like it wasn't showered in all kinds of praise of
Antonio Brown and all the praise and Antonio Brown gets
over the course of his croup, but somehow the guys
not happy, and he needs to have drama and he
needs to have it and he thrives on it. And
that's really what he is, the biggest drama queen in

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the National Football League. He's that friend you have that
you know and your friends and you really like them,
and you're hanging out and you're having a lot of
fun and and things are great, and then there's always
the part where she, ah, do you can I tell
you what just happened? Can I tell you what went on? Uh?
And you know, at work, so and so my boss
did this, did this, did this, And I don't know

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what to do when I may quit. And you say
to yourself, I don't think that was all that bad, okay,
all right? Then the next time you're hanging out with
him at all, So and So I'm dating and this
is happening, and this is happening. And then after a
while you just go, oh, you just are addicted to drama.
You just aret addicted to you can you can't get
away from it. You gotta have some kind of drama.
And that's something that Antonio Brown wears to a t.

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That is why he is in the position he isn't
He can't stand to not have drama around him. How
do you not show up for a game? I mean real,
you can be upset as you want to. How do
you not show up for a game? Oh, I want
to see how you win without me? Nobody said we
could win with no Nobody said any of these things.
He's like don Quixote. He's fighting at windmills with all

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of this. So what's gonna happen? Now? He's gonna get traded?
Of course he is. The stealers are gonna trade him.
They think they can get a first round pick for
Antonio Brown. That's about the ceiling you could expect for
Antonio Brown. Absolute ceiling because if I'm a GM, I
can't go more than a second, maybe two seconds, a

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second and the third because what's going on is he
has shown that, without a doubt, no matter what his
situation is, he will walk out on your team. It's
one thing to be late to meetings. Guys have been
late to meetings before. You can tolerate that as long
as they perform on the field. Antonio Brown is getting
a little older. Now you know, the guy's gonna be
the guys north of thirty. That's gonna be something that's

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gonna be very difficult as you get on for him
to continue at this level of excellence. But you can
deal with stuff like that. You can deal with being upset.
You can deal with a couple of sideline tirades. You
can deal with attacking the water cooler. As long as
you don't try to marry it and kiss it and
doever whatever what l. Beckham likes to do, you can get.
You can get by with all that stuff. But when
you don't show up a game, I mean, that's it.

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That's like gay, that's like doors closed. And the fact
that he has shown he could do that, that he's
okay with that, I mean, that's something you you realize
that if you sign him, if things go bad, this
is what you're signing. Right. People sometimes forget Dan Patrick Show,
Fox Sports Radio, Jason Smith, Ryan Hollins in for Dan.
This is something that people forget is that whatever you

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do publicly as an athlete, you can be very upset
with your team, and you can be back and forth
and have rightful reasons to be upset and have rightful
reasons to say, hey, they're not treating me right. All
of these things, but this is all on display for
the rest of the league to see. All of this.
It's on display for the rest of the league to see.
So you have to read if you want to, if

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you want out. You're also auditioning for those other teams,
So someone like Antonio Brown's got to know that. Okay,
if I act like this, the next team that trades
for me is gonna see. Okay, this is a guy
who has all these shoes and doesn't show up for
a game. He I mean, doesn't come for a game,
has his agent call and say, hey, Antonio thinks he
can show up after missing a walk through practice on

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the Friday before the game against the Bengals, and the
Steelers saying, no, that doesn't happen, So you do that.
I can't give up a lot for this guy. I mean,
it's it's just insane. I mean the Steelers were like
in the beginning, it was to first and a couple
of first and a couple of seconds. We're not just
gonna give him away. They may have to, because I
don't a team. I don't know that the team's gonna
go with a high first round pick, knowing full well

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that he could walk out on the team eight seven,
seven ninety nine on Fox Twitter at how about a
Fresco Ryan Hollands at the Ryan Hollins. So you tell
me now with Antonio Brown, this whole situation, knowing what's
going on. You're a player and he's doing this to
your team. He's a guy that's late to meetings all
the time, but you let it go right. He's like
you were, you know, always take the meetings and U

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c l A always always late, you know, and just
shoot around everything. But a big smile on you face.
The guys liked you. You Facebook live stuff that coaches
didn't want to see. All this up and then you
don't show up for a game, last game of the
season when you need to win to get in the
playoffs and potentially get in the playoffs. I mean, can
a guy can you ever treat that guy like hey,
I can count on him and for the future when

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he just doesn't show up for a game. Ultimately, I've
had a situation like that. I don't want to name
the players. Lebron, go ahead, you can say it's all right.
I look at the front office, I look at the
coach because I say, you could have penalized this guy
when he was younger. You could have done something different

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to allow him to not feel like this. Okay, this
is okay, and now his talent outweighs is it is
talent outweighs his shenanigans off the field. But right now
it's taken him away from the game that he loves.
He misses the last game. We bring up the incidents,
use incidences that you talked about, and he's seemingly well

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know he's been rewarded for it. But now you get
the fool's gold, the false sense of reality because Antonio
Brown is a guy now that is in golfing the
Steelers organization. It was Levan Bill And I don't mind
what levy because that was money, right, that was money.
We we don't we don't talk another man's money. That

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maybe you can say, man, get out in the field.
I don't know. We love talking about money. We're talking
about money. Everything is money. Money. We don't talk another
man's money. You know, come on, we're the cheap game guys. Okay,
we don't talk man. Sure, I know what I'm saying
is now is taking Antonio off the field, and that
becomes a problem. But I look at the enablers and

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I played with a guy we'll not reveal, but I
just say that big name. Everybody knows. This is a
huge name. This isn't like a like a Penny's name.
This isn't our cheap game. Ryan Hollins was Griffin to me.

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Those guys uh are enabled by the organization because they're
talent and that's all they've ever known. Now for me, obviously,
I lived a different story, and I knew that if
I was late, if I became any bit of a headache,
I was not going to be there on the team anymore.
I was gonna be benched, I was gonna be penalized.
Those guys have gotten past that fear, and now there's

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a monster there that has been created. So now it's
a problem. It's a problem, and it's a culture. And
to my understanding with the Steevel's organization, everything I've heard
from behind the stands from my guys, that's a norm
there and that's a problem. Well, yeah, Tomlin could have
easily snipped this in the butt a while ago with
the with the meetings, But it's like, okay, you allow

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a little bit, and then the's a little bit more,
and then a little bit more and a little bit
more than Pretty soon you know, I'm not coming to
meetings at all. And then one thing happens and it's
not taken care of, and then you can't control it anymore.
You can't suddenly go okay, well now this is that,
because then there's bristling, and then you worry about upsetting
the players. And that's something that always needs to be
taken care of early, because if you allow a player

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to continue to be late to meetings and not show
up all right now, but then then the next incarnation
of it is you're staying off campus for for training camp.
All right, that's fine, and then you eat a little
bit more, a little bit more, a little bit more,
and then it's completely out of control. It's like it's
like trying to ring in a teenage kid when you
when you give him a little bit of rope too much,
it's like, I shouldn't have done that, and then everything
gets out of control. And unfortunately with your teenager, he's

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gotta go getting a car accident, he's got to go
run away from home and and and and get trashed
at a nightclub. He's gotta go. You gotta go your teenagers,
he's gotta go experience life. And then he comes back
and mom and dad, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Yeah, like
Kyrie Irving, Hey, Lebron, I'm sorry, don't I don't know.

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This is tough. This is tough. All right, here's we're
gonna do. Here's me too real fast. I'm gonna count
to three. You're gonna turn the mic off, and you're
gonna turn the mics off. You're gonna say the name
of the person you're talking about, right, not on the air.
You to say the name so I can know who
it is. When we turned the one to three, it
was Jason Smith. I actually turned my Mike car thought
you gonna do it? What are you doing? Wait? Jason

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Smith the basketball player? No you? Oh me? Oh? I
thought it was Jason Smith the basketball player. Like Jason Smith,
I worked out. I get I get with Jason. Would
never be late. I get Twitter requests from people asking
me to sign Jersey's all the time because they think
it's so I always yes, send it, I'll sign it,
live it out, live it out. And there's a He's

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ben on a lot of teams. So there's a lot
of jersey requests. I have your jersey. Oh that's awesome,
like a one just like not not not like Kobe
like you were saying a couple of seconds ago, the
guy you were talking about. Okay, I'm just trying to
I'm just trying to get a reaction from you. We
didn't turn your mic Twitter at How about a Fresco
Ryan at the Ryan Hollands will love more in Antonio

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Brown coming up later. I can't give up a lot
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Some features not available in all states. Coming up next,
two big stories out of basketball from last night, The
Duke come back in the Lakers Underwater under five hundred.
That's next. Jason Smith, Ryan Hollins in for Dan This
is Fox Sports Radio. Be sure to catch live editions

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of The Jason Smith Show with Mike harmon weekdays at
ten pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio
and the I Heart Radio APPA. You know, it's not

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often that I can get put in a bad mood
when I'm listening to a song on the radio, but
I swear to God. Jason Smith, Mind Hollands and for
Dan Patrick. Today. Two days ago, I'm driving into work
and my Prerogative comes on right and I'm listening's on satellite,
and I got it up really high because remember this,
I was still in high school. It was awesome, So

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I know the whole thing so I'm doing the dance movies.
I'm driving. Uh no, no, no, oh the pants pants
and oh yeah yeah, and pants went through like college.
It was nice wearing. Uh. And then they went to
a new song before the rap. They went to a
new song. I made this money, you didn't, right, Ted.

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I'm like, that's the best part of songing. I got
really bad. I'm like, what the hell, I'm jamming my
finger onto the change of the chatnel, like I'm never
listening to you again. How do you cut out of
the song before you get to that part? Do we
let it right out a little bit? Well, they just
cut your song on you. This world is a trip.
I don't know what's going on. I got this person
over here talking about me, this person, this person. Hey,
let me tell you by parack. I want to do

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what I want to do. And I think then they
went got out of it before the song. I remember,
you're gonna love this because I was an elementary at
the time. You're in college. I'm an elementary. I was
in high school. I'm not that Yeah. This is like
this is like just post new edition Bobby Brown. This
is such a kid's way of thinking. I love this.
You gotta love this. So I'm getting teased by a

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couple of kids because you're six in grade school? Oh,
I was. I was teaching for a lot more reasons, right.
And I remember my my friend, my good friend, Richard.
He was one of the cool kids, but he was
he was. I called him like he was a mediator.
He was, you know, and he goes to the kids
are teaching me kind of and he goes, hey, guys,

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leave him alone because that's his prerogative. That wasn't that
just said, hey, guys, it's his prerogative, man, that's what
that's the way he wants to do it. Y'all leave
him alone. And they looked at me kind of out, yeah,
that's his prerogative, man, And you said the kids took it,

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and you said, why don't you just let me live.
I don't need permission. I make my own decisions. That's
my prerogative, prerogative. That's exactly how I went down, Bro,
can we can we hear? The song? Got me coming
real low? But I keep chasing kids. You not, but
isn't it? And you have kids here the same They

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interpret that, you know, But my friend, it was like
this epivoty, Hey, man, it's this prerogative. Leave him alone, guys.
And he thought, I'm sounding so smart right now. I'm like,
because I used I used because I'm in grade school.
I used the word prerogative and it worked. That's pretty good.
I don't even know if he knew it. He just
knew was his way doesn't matter. It's his way. It
doesn't matter, it doesn't matter. And and and that person

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turned out to be Justin Bieber. Actually my good friend Richard, okay,
very Richard Jefferson. No, no, no, listen, these famous no,
these famous people came around in the NBA. I'm not
I promise, I'm I'm not that cool. You're not. Okay, well,
I never thought you were really cool. I thought you were,

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you know, like the cool like the one of your
friends that did some cool things. But it's still the
same guy, you know growing up. That's that's kind of
what I think of you. Like, hey, I got all
these great stories. Oh that's that's all. That's it, But
you know, you're still the same guy, like you were
never that guy. They say, Yeah, you know, I was
in the club with Harden and I saw his jersey
get retired at the Strip Club and everything and yeah,

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you know you'll strike me as that guy unless wait, wait,
is there is there a Ryan Hollins jersey retired in
a strip club in l a somewhere streament Ryno, doesn't
have your jersey retired nude nude nude done by the airport. Now, okay,
uh So last night we got two big NBA star
two big basketball stories to get to. First one is

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this is the comeback that nobody saw coming down by
twenty in the second half, it looked like Duke was
dead in the water until fadeaway jumper no good Sion
fights for the rebound. He's got it. That'll do it.
The Blue Devil's roar back from twenty three down. So

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when at Louisville seventy one to sixty nine, Duke Radio
Network on the call an absolute stunner led by Zion Williamson,
who had a huge, huge night for Duke. Look early
on he was the only guy that had anything going on,
and they continue to ride him. He made shots throughout
the second half and twenty seven points twelve rebounds later,

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Duke comes away with such a huge victory. All right,
So before you get designed Williamson, because because this is
he's so I don't want to say polarizing, but where
he is at with his potential really has people going
in different directions. But you're down in this game and
it's a twenty point game in the second half, and
even though it's you know, it's kids, and you have
a little bit less of a of of a long memory.

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What gets into you where you realize that you can
make a comeback and and try to win this game
because you're you're down twenty and second it's it's done.
You know, you can make a little bit of a
mini run, but somebody on the team is going to
hit a shot and that's gonna stem the tide and
you're gonna wind up not being able to come back
in this game. What tells you, Hey, you know what,
I could you know this is our game. Even though
we're down, we can still win this game. You know

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what's you know, it's funny, like you just mentioned, we
joked about Hey, even know, Ryan, You've been places, You've
done stuff. I feel like you're the same guy. You're
a normal everyday guy. You just went third person. You
realize you just had to say you said I you know,
you said Ryan, Alan's u c l a legend former
NBA stuff. You know, you said to me that Dryan
that uh use my name, and you said Ryan seemed

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to be that regular guy. And I'm just I'm just
that tall, good looking guy named Ryan who likes to
wear Clippers gear that I got when I played for
the team. That's it's kind of who I am. I'm Ryan.
And I sit back and I think, sometimes, you know what,
I like to go to the beach and just walk,
and I think, Ryan, what's what's my life like? What's
my reason to be here? Check out my my space? Here,

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my space. I'm sorry the third person. So we got
talking college. You run up my space? All right? Black Planet?
Do you have a black planet account? By the way,
I did not have a black my Space black planet
dot com. All right, I know, I just had. I
went from my face to Facebook to Twitter. I mean

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I made, I made, you know, I grew up like
everybody else did my Space Facebook. But I say that
to say, when you're down in a ball game, down
twenty points and things look bleak, I find out who
you are. I find out who you are in those moments.
Are you the type to shrink up and complain? Are

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you type to keep doing your job. Are you the
type to actually excel at your job? Because you know
what the circumstances bear. So when you look at Zion,
you look at R. J. Barrett, you look at those
guys that duke As, you want to draft them. You
want to find out who they are. You find out
a lot in a twenty point comeback. We know guys

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that are front runners, Jason, you know, you know guys
are front run things. They're going, Oh they're great, they're great.
They're regular season. As soon as the playoffs hit, as
soon as a tough moment hits, they're gonna be missing.
And it seemed like, dude, guys like that, that's a
game that you'll look that in the NBA draft and say,
I see what those kids are made of. That means

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more than a ten point win by point win, it's
a twenty point comeback. I test the fibers of a
man because at some point, especially in eighty two games
and NBA say I need to know who you are.
I need to know who you are and what you're
made of. I think back as the Charlotte All Star
Game is upon us, guy who's gonna be featured in

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its hometown Kimball Walker. Remember that game was a triple
overtime or whatever, crazy Kimba Walker. It's so many huge
clutch in so many big moments that you remember from Kimba.
So you look back at Kimba Walker and go, man,
I see the fibers of who he is. I see
who who he is from the shots that he hits.

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So there's a huge value when you evaluate talent, and
you and we all we're all trying to fare out
who the heck is? Zion William said, who the heck
is this guy? Okay, it's safe to say he's not
the Ron We're trying to figure Is that Blake Griffin?
We're trying to figure is that Julius Randall? Is it
is it Sean camp Who is it? Is it? Is
it Lebron? Are we are we missing the boat? We're

(27:09):
trying to figure out. But in a game like that,
in r. J. Bartt and those kids, that is gonna
show more of who they are than just any old game.
You feel me, J I got you. I'm just thinking
back to the Big East Tournament when they won five
games in five nights, and I remember saying on the
radio there's no way they can win the championship. That
just played five games and five nights and they want
to win the championship. Yeah, it just happened that right,

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But as it as a scout, as a talent evaluator,
that's the game. You're gonna go back and watch. Like
I'm a after ten years in the NBA, four in college.
You know, Ryan Hollands, you just did that for you.
You know what I did these years in college? You know,
ten years in the NBA, And I'll lead you my
net worth and tell everything that I've done with my

(27:52):
money and invested wisely. I'm not gonna be like those
other guys. Ryan Hollands knows what Brian Hollands likes. No,
but you read by any language, you read character, you read.
All those things are big because if I don't invest
a lot of money in you, I gotta find out
what type of person you are. We you know, we
we talked about with Kyler Murray a lot. The type
of leader is he? Like, like, like, how do you

(28:14):
find the next Russell Wilson? Like you know, Matt Flinn,
we paid you a lot of money, but you're not
the leader that that guy is. You know what I'm saying,
you got him. So when it comes to design Williamson,
then Jason Smith, Ryan Hollins in for Dan and the
Dan that's here the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio.
He has another huge game, you know, coming off the
big highlight this past weekend when he blocked the three
and it looked like he jumped forty feet in the

(28:35):
air to do it. You know, look, as a Nick fan,
I'm already I'm getting my Zigon Williams and Jersey ready
I'm thinking, you know, four chas the number one pick.
But all right, ay, we're continue to tank and you
know this is awesome and Zion is that great And
see him run up and down the floor the way
he does, being as big as he does, being able
to hit shots, being able to hit three, is being
able to get back on defense. I mean, he is

(28:57):
really men against boys in college basketball. But what is
he so freakishly athletic that we overvalue what he can
do at the next level because it's you know, he's
not you know, he's not even Duke's best player. He's
not even their go to Guy's probably the third guy
that they go to for a basket. But his potential
obviously is so huge. We talked about Zion Zion and

(29:17):
he's got this such an it factor about him. But
could we be overvaluing him a little bit because of
how great athletically he is because you get to the
NBA and everybody's athletic. It's not you know, I mean, yeah,
you stand out now, but as a big you know,
everybody's athletic, and maybe we're we're pumping him up a
little bit too much. Yes and no? Yes and no

(29:37):
isn't no for the two reasons. Brian Hollan says, yes
and no. Yes, isn't that. I'm sorry, you know, I
hate it. I'm sorry, I'm so against doing it. But
I'm sorry, but you're it's it's so yes and no.
But I'm gonna explain this to you all. Yes, we
overvalue it because you're not gonna jump over Janic's outs
of the COOPO when you get You're not gonna, are
you even You're not gonna You're not better than Montrez

(29:59):
Harrow right now, You're not gonna You're not gonna go
just turning and look at Brook Lopez and just dunking
it like that's not happening. Bro, and every team in
the league is gonna know you're a dunker. They're probably
gonna put their center on you and say, shoot a
jump shot. Let's see who you are blots. But here's
the intriguing part. For a guy that's six seven, let's

(30:21):
say six six, let's just trying to make it sound
even worse. Pounds, Well, go ahead. They don't get off
the floor like that. And if you watch him in
high school, he's a nimble he's very fleet of foot,
and he you know, he's got a little crossover to him.
You know, he can push the ball full of court.
He's very comfortable handling the basketball. That's not normal, but

(30:46):
you and I can look at it, say he's not
very polished though it's not it's not really all refined,
not all put together, but they're just kind of just
raw elements of Zion Williamson that make you a stack
as a ball player. And that's something else I like
about him. I really really like about him. I don't
know if you want to wait for this, I don't
want to. You little on topic. Your finger, you're pointing,

(31:09):
You're like a fing, You're like a foot from my face.
You're pointing at me, Jason, you just get me excited.
When you got me all fired up, Jason Smith has
Ryan Hollands excited. Yes, go ahead. The fact that Zion
shows Duke over Kentucky spoke volumes to me. It spoke volumes. Okay,

(31:35):
it spoke volumes to me because it told me, as
I watched this kid, he wants to be coached. You
go to Kentucky. It's the Junior NBA. It's the fashion show.
It's the you know how many McDonald's all Americans? What
it's the show. Every player from there is the first

(31:56):
or second pick in the drift. And not to say
that those kids don't play hard, not to say that
they don't work, not to say that there's a reason
they don't find the level of success that they have,
but to me, when you chose duke, which wasn't for
that type of pick, j the glamorous pick, like this
is a new duke. Forgive me right, This is a
new duke right where you're getting one and done type

(32:16):
of guys. It's not the duke that we know. This
is r J. Barrett three three first rounders. They always
have guys, but this this is a different that's more
of a Kentucky guy. Right, the one and done has
been a Kentucky thing to tell me if you want
to go for a play for Coach k tells me
that Zion understands he needs to get better. He needs
to do work. There are skills that he needs to

(32:37):
develop as far as footwork, as far as how to
win games. Something he has to add to his game.
So when I looked at his move to Duke, that
impressed me more than anything that I watched the kid play.
Most guys like that, I'm good. They just run around,
they dunk. This guy will block a shot. This guy
will dive on the floor, he'll jump out of bounds.
He does a lot of those intangibles, which tells me

(33:00):
he's bought in. He's bought in. This isn't a guy
who's good. He's um. You know. We we don't like
the extracurricular that you you think you're better. Zion is
not a guy to feel like he's better than what
he is. You feel me, well, I think it's about
the image of because look at this point, now there's
no difference between Duke and Kentucky. Yeah, Kentucky will have

(33:22):
maybe five guys come in turn pro and then they
turned to the next five guys. Duke will have you know,
two or three who show up and then but there's
no real difference. They're both getting the same caliber guys.
But it's about the image. The image of Duke's program is, Hey,
you go to coach K and Coach K is gonna
take care of you. And this is this is Duke
and it's longtime college basketball. Relative have always done it
this way. They've always done it the right way. People

(33:43):
hate Duke, but they respect you. And now you've got
John Calipari, who wherever he goes, he wins, and you know,
his success level is really not appreciated the way it
should be as well. He doesn't win enough championships. Everywhere
he goes. He's turns programs into from nothing into gold,
whether it's you, Mask or Kentucky. But he sells the
image of come here. I'm not gonna make it a
big deal for you to stay like you come here.

(34:05):
He has a succeed and proceed that's his thing. You
come here, play here, you're play great, go to the NBA,
get a second contract. I mean this is like, hey,
you know, Kentucky. He he sells it as come here
and play, and that's great, but it's gonna be a
stop over for you. You we understand it's a stop
you play for a year, you move on to the NBA,
because I mean when he does interviews and says things like, hey,

(34:25):
people want to criticize us, but no other school has
has guys get second contracts in the NBA like we do,
and you don't think about that part. You think about, well,
where you're gonna get drafted and how much money you
gonna make. Then you realize after that first contract, if
you're playing in Turkey or if you're you know, you're
down in the G League and stuff, you're screwed. You're
not getting paid it. But you get that second contract,
You get a second contract that's money. And so that

(34:46):
that's where I get it from Calipari's perspective. But the
images of well, you just kind of go there and
you're there for a year, and it's like it's like,
do you really want to buy a house even though
you're only gonna go there for a year, or do
you want to rent a house knowing at the end
you're gonna even though they're the same, it's the image
of Dukes. I mean, you have to give Cal credit.
And I don't want to take this away from cow.

(35:07):
It is an art for him because, like you said,
if I'm leasing a car, I'm renting a house. I
don't ultimately own it. I want to say own it,
especially not when we're talking about collegiate athletes. But you
know that a guy is going to move on to
be able to develop a kid and get him to
reach his ample potential in a short and small amount
of time speaks volumes. I think about DeAndre Aiden. I

(35:29):
don't know DeAndre Aiden learned it Arizona. I felt like
he went in for a year and he came out
the exact same player that he had been since he
was in middle school and elementary run around. You know
what I'm saying, because is DeAndre Ayden had been good
for a very long time. Then he was just he
was the same kid. But when I think about Duke,
I think about what Cal does. Those guys actually coming

(35:49):
and develop and if for some odd reason, Jason, they
need to stay two years before seeing the NBA or
three years before seeing the NBA, they do it and
it's not a big deal. And you know, when I
was in college and even a number of other guys.
It's not accepted, It had not been accepted the idea
of this one and done type of guy because you

(36:11):
see the impact that it's gonna have on your program.
So so when year after year and to have kind
of made like you you said in art former, I
love that, Jake, because it is it absolutely and it's
not for everybody, and and ultimately it wasn't for Duke.
So this is hats off to coach k for changing
the way he coaches and and kind of the way
he would, you know, shape a program, and hats off

(36:34):
to those kids for going there and buying in Twitter
at how about a Fresco Ryan at the Ryan Hollins. Well,
of course it's at the Ryan Hollins. I mean that's
you know, third person guy, Ryan Hollins. The So I'm
the Ryan Hollins. You could have just been Ryan Hollands.
You're the somebody somebody else did it, all right? Yeah,
people you hired to do it for you. No, No,

(36:57):
you could have been I'm Ryan Hollins. You could have
and not the real Ryan Hollins, but you're the real
Ryan Halls. Could have done that to you? How non
social media savvy I was at the time. So you
have a fan you have a fan Twitter page? Now
I noticed that, yes, do you have fan Twitter pages
liking stuff that you post. These things happen. Sometimes things

(37:19):
happen to the every day guess and Katie, if it's
really you doing your own fan just let me know
right now. Okay, sometimes things happened to the everyday guy, honestly,
So that's the only way I can explain it. Bro,
things happened to the everyday guy. Jason Smith, Ryan Hollins
in for Dan. Coming up next, Michael Jordan's throws absolute

(37:41):
shade at James Harden and Russell Westbrook. We got that
story coming up next. This is Fox Sports Radio, Fox
Sports Radio, The Dan Patrick Show, Jason Smith, Ryan Hollins

(38:04):
and for Dan the dan Ets check my shot nights
here on Fox Sports Radio. You got the Clippers game tonight,
right the Sons. Nice. You can actually play in this game.
I mean that you can actually get in for a
couple of minutes. I think I can play against any NBA.
I'm only thirty four, No, I know, well what well,
you can't say only when you know what I mean

(38:26):
in life, you're only thirty four. But in basketball, it's dude,
you're thirty four. I have great genetics. Yeah, I work
out every day, and I know I'm I could. I
could still play. Just the center position that doesn't shoot
threes is not valued anymore until you gotta shoot threes
the gym and shoot threes. But you know what, at

(38:46):
contract the Nicks could sign you tomorrow, I would rather
be no place else than sitting here, right here, nowhere else.
I dig that, Thank you very much. Uh So we'll
have more on the Laker is suddenly under five hundred
coming up and a little bit less than fifteen minutes
from now as they head to the break. Lebron had
some pretty interesting things to say following they're really ugly

(39:09):
lost to the Hawks last night. But Michael Jordan's decided
he wants to weigh in on the big streaks of
Russell Westbrook and James Harden. Harden whose thirty game points
scoring streak is now at thirty games, breaking the record
that he held with Will Chamberlain. Meanwhile, Russell Westbrook, his
triple double streak is at ten games, which also breaks

(39:32):
a record held by Will Chamberlain. If we get to
the really big record by Will Chamberlain. Well, that's gonna
wind up being the whole show one day. But when
Jordan was asked about how he feels about Westbrook and
Harden what they're accomplishing, he said, you know, it's not
as good as it could be. Both they are both hard,
you know, and uniquely it shows a talent, you know,

(39:52):
that we had within the league. It shows that you're
still a good progression within the league. I'm very proud
about what both guys have done. But because you're making
it more for the league, and I think he really
helps to go to the league, which is parted from
a player's standpoint, six championships mean. So, I mean, I

(40:13):
don't know why he had a press conference other than,
you know, he wanted to say this and obviously you know,
being the host of the All Star Game this weekend.
But Jordan decides to talk, you know, on Tuesday, Hey,
I'm gonna have a press conference, and he never talks,
but yeah, I'll talk. I'll say this look throwing shade
at Harden and Westbrook. The number one thing that steps
out for me on this is that he still can't

(40:34):
let basketball go. He's still competing now and he's been
retired for fifteen years. He's always had that competitive driving.
What was always the question after his playing days over
what's he gonna do? And he's tried to find his way,
you know, being being a GM, being an owner, being
all of these things, and he still finds. But remember
I was the best, Because now he's gone from Hey,

(40:56):
Michael Jordan legend we all remember to being that guy saying,
oh what I played, I was better than all of
these guys. I feel like he still feels a need
to remind everybody in that remember I was the best.
I'm doing commis now we're those tiny whities and looks
intrastated like me. I mean, that's the phase of the

(41:16):
life that Jordan is in right now. Well, there's something
that you don't turn off, and greatness of that level
comes with obsession, comes with the level of crazy that
Jason Man, you just don't understand. We see it. We
we we've understood it, or we we think we understand it,
but it's just it's something you won't necessarily get. So

(41:37):
when I played in Charlotte, Michael was clearly owner drafted
me to the Bobcats at the time. Now the Hornets
once again after practice. Michael was very He was a
little more hands on with the team than I would
say that he should have been from a front office
position and ownership position. So it was always, you know,
he would pop in more. He he wants to be

(41:59):
on the court more he was. He was in it
even though Michael didn't want to coach, but he still
wants to kind of pop in. So Michael would come
in after practice, and Michael could not come in the
gym without talking trash to you or saying something to
the other guys and kind of letting them know. And
I would assume, you know, from his wizard's days, this
wasn't two maybe three or four years off and he

(42:19):
steps into an ownership position. He was still kind of
challenge guys and at times he would play guys one
on one. You can't beat me, you can't beat me,
and and Mike's forty years old at the time, you
can't beat me. So Mike would play guys one on one.
But these were his rules. These were Michael's rules. And
keep in mind, you never forget how to shoot the

(42:40):
guy strong as a Knox. That's not going away. He's
gonna sprint up and down the floor with you know,
so he would play guys um essentially with no dribble
and Michael Jordan's what's his patent and move he's So
you're playing Michael's games on Michael's rules and you don't

(43:02):
have a dribble, you know what Michael would turn to do.
He would literally grab your arm. He would literally so
this was an impossible game to win, and if you
found him, he would call you, call you on it.
And especially a guy like that where he can still
kind of jump over your fadal, I mean he could,
he's I mean he may have to. I mean, I

(43:23):
don't know. Do I compare it with Dirk? But the
best fade away, like if we say a move like
Michael's fade always unstoppable, so you couldn't block a shot
when you play. You could well know Michael didn't play
me because that I'm seven ft tall. That would have
been easy contest for me. He didn't have to have
a dribble. But nonetheless he would shoot fadeaways over guys
he couldn't lose. There's no part of anything that Michael

(43:47):
Jordan's gonna compete in that he's not all in with.
That's why you know, obviously, we don't want to dive
into this. The gambling because a problem because you can't win.
When it comes to gambling, it's completely random. You can
go on hot streaks, you can go on cold streaks,
but you, my friend, cannot control it. You get what
I'm saying. When it comes to you know, Harden Street,

(44:07):
when it comes to Westbrook Street, when it comes to
Lebron's rings or lack thereof, or just getting there, Michael
Jordan is gonna throw out those shocks. Six straight championships?
What's up now? What's up now? Kobe does? What's up now?
Does he talk about not losing in the pickup games too?
Or no? Oh yeah, he's gonna let guys know that

(44:30):
he's very Michael Jordan is very much gonna let you
know that he's gonna talk. He he doesn't turn it
off like it doesn't go off. It doesn't go off.
You don't want to do next hour, We'll do this
next hour. If he played, now what player he would be?
Because I have an idea of what player he would be.
Right now that you know, I'll turn the mic off

(44:51):
and tell you like you did with me earlier, this
out all right, Ready Ready, turn to my Ready one
too three. Ryan Hollins coming up next. The lake is
there under five hundred. What's next is Luke Walton survived
the weekend Fox Information Farewell football. With the NFL season over,

(45:16):
it's time to focus our energies on the NBA. The
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(45:38):
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(46:01):
This is that Dan Patrick Show. Similar to the NBA,
we have an all star break of our own. It's
almost like spring break famely Dan Patrick, He's not here,
something's missing, but filling in. We have a couple of
rising stars of our own. Come on, we didn't come
to the game to see that. Jason Smith and Ryan

(46:22):
Holly's greenings Welcome inside the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio. Jason Smith, Ryan Hollins in for Dan and
the Dan Nets My show heard nights here on Fox.
Ryan the Big U c l a former NBA star,
You continually reminded us of last hour on the show,
Got Clippers in the Suns tonight beyond TV doing that
and maybe playing, maybe getting in the game, maybe getting it.

(46:47):
Like at the end, I can see suddenly they go, hey,
you know it's it's one seventy five to one thirty. Hey,
We'll getting give us a couple of minutes here. You know,
this is very common though, what you're doing right now?
What's up? And I have to be speaking into it?
Oh wow, oh god? Did you go there? Of course? Okay, no,
but I gotta be thankful that people look at me

(47:10):
right now and go, hey, man, you can play You
can play basketball. What team are you on? You can?
Because I get out of time, what team do you
play for? Nice? I don't play for any team because
I don't play basketball anymore. I talk about basketball as
you wear your Clippers gear everywhere you go. No, no, no, no,

(47:31):
But I'm just saying I'm just saying, no matter no
matter where it is, but I appreciate that people look
at me and go, you can play, because if you
know what you know, one day I'm gonna be a
little out of shape, a little older, some gray hairs
and and be like, hey, oh man, where were you
one time? But it's like, no, hey, hey guy, you
can play. Don't put a jersey on and go run
up and down because you can do it. You know.

(47:53):
I saw this really tall guy at Target the other day.
I think he's an NBA player. He's very very tall.
It's reaching things on the top shelf. I was very
very fresh. But today, you know, you look, we do
the cheap out game. You know who wears the outfits
that that that cost the cheapest. You know, we've we
do that a lot. We get together. But you're actually
wearing a Clippers shirt and are you wearing Sacramento Kings pants?

(48:14):
Why would you say are you mixing? You say that
because it's wearing you wearing Clippers shirt and you were
in Sacramento Kings pants. We can't we can't do any
type of crime together, Jason, are you wearing are you
wearing hornet sneakers? We can't do any type of crime,
you know, that right, You got Jordan's socks on? Is

(48:34):
that what you're wearing right now? I mean that's like,
that's that's the equivalent of you know, regular guys like me,
you know guys that you know that work hard for
a living and you know, do things and you know,
live life by a certain code. Now this, this is
like my equivalent of wearing like a Nike shirt and
like Adidas sweats. And it's like you can't do that,
you can't mix the brands like that. True story. It's

(48:56):
almost getting myself in trouble. Wouldn't that like trouble? But
like awkward sits, you wation. So I still wear my
King's sweats because they fit for me. You get older,
you don't really care what you look like. Do they fit?
Are they comfortable? I'm like, nice pair of shoes, great
pair of shoes, comfortable. Oh, we're going comfortable. To we're

(49:17):
going comfortable. That's the dad point in my life. So
when I travel sometimes I throw in my King's sweats,
which have a small King's and one which you would
notice and only you would be glaring. Hey, look what
the Clipper announcers on? All right, thanks Jason and had

(49:38):
I had to travel out of town, and I realized
there was an early game that I was calling, so
I have the red Eye back to make the game right,
and I have to go straight into the game. And
as I'm going into the game, I began to realize, well, Ryan,
you have on your Sacramento Kings wet pants and you're

(50:02):
calling the game for the Clippers, and the big problem
is they're playing the Sacramento Kings. Gladly, I got there
early enough to where I was able to change, and
only like one person saw me. And the person who
gets off the d wonder he's the equipment up there?
He goes, Man, you still got those on? You still

(50:23):
got you still like? And then I'm wearing it like
you're still wearing those things. You get your new pair
of pants. Let me get you a new pair of pants. Yeah,
let me get your new pas. Let me get you
a pair of lotties. He doesn't wear the kind of
smell like they smell like cigarette smokes, so you want
to wash him a couple of times. And then it's funny,
that's you know when I when I uh, when I

(50:45):
pilloged from my clippers, gotta go, uh, you know something,
you know Gallo would wear. Gallow doesn't want to throw
it over to me. You know, I could fit is stuff.
Bobby probably the same. It's one size after seven feet.
It's all they say, you know, when Bobby is there,
My guy, my guy, Hey, hey, my guy, Bobbie's going
that's gonna hurt. Man, that's gonna hurt. It's it's different.
And then uh, who else marching? Yeah, anything, he doesn't

(51:07):
wear it, throll me his stuff stuff. Twitter at have
out of Fresca, Ryan at the Ryan Holland. So if
if you have big pants, hit him up on Twitter.
I'm sure I'll find a way to come pick him
up for you. Meanwhile, the other side of town, the
Lakers hit the All Star break under five hundred. They
have a very dispirited loss to the Atlanta Hawks last night.

(51:28):
They have a fourth quarter that really both them and
the Hawks at the NBA back fifty years. It was
a horrendous fourth quarter. The Lakers had a string of
possessions in the middle of the fourth quarter when they
were trying to cut the Hawks seven seven eight point lead,
where they went turnover miss miss, turnover miss miss miss
turnover missmis. The Hawks wind up winning the game and

(51:49):
they fall under five hundred and to add insult to
the injury of the loss. This is what Hawks fans
were channing at Lebron James during the game, and what
they not part say. You see it up close, the
upper body strength. He's a physical specialist, but what what
what places shooting free throws. You can hear the crowd

(52:10):
channing Kobe's better, Kobe's better at Lebron James. Now, it
was a great reception for him there. They did cheer
him a lot during the game, but they did kind
of throw their own shade at him by saying Kobe
is better. And this is what gets into what is
next for Lebron James. And he really isn't counting on
right now. Everywhere he is gone, he has been universally love.

(52:34):
You look at a guy that Okay, comes out of
high school and he goes to Cleveland and hey, hometown
guy who happens to be the best player in this generation,
and the unadulterated love. He leaves and they hate him,
but he goes to Miami. Miami loves him. He plays
in Miami for four years, he leaves, goes back to Cleveland.
Everything is forgiven I'm going back. I'm going back. They
love him again, love him again. He understands fans were

(52:56):
mad when he left. You know, it gets a little
upset when they burned his jersey and stuff like that,
which I get. But now he's loved. He gets back
to Cleveland. He didn't have to when he just had
to go back there. But he goes back there and
he wins. Now he comes to l a and whether
he is in it to win a championship or set
up the next phase of his NBA career, a post
NBA career, because he's kind of kept the Lakers at

(53:18):
arms length. He's kind of still been like like the
hired gun that the Lakers have had, Like you're still
waiting for him to really, you know, put his imprint
on the team as far as leadership, signature, plays get
you know, because right now that at the point where
the young guys are saying, you know, does he want
to trade me? Does he want me around? Does he not?
You know, does he like Luke Walton? Is he gonna
kill another coach? You know, all these things are happening
right now. But what he's not ready for is the

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level of hate he's gonna get from Laker fans if
this season goes south, and by south, it's you know,
not making the playoffs. I mean it went from before
he got hurt. They were in third in the West
and everything was coming along great, you know that the
supporting castle was coming along. They had to figure out
was brand Ingram gonna come off the bench, was he
gonna be in the starting lineup. But they started figure

(54:01):
things out. There were third, then he gets hurt, and
now they've come back, and now they're struggling and there
are two and a half games out of the final
playoff spot. This is already a fan base that when
Lebron signed and the initial excitement was so great, the
one artist in Venice, you know, painted the Lebron James
mural and then it got to face twice, you know,
because they are Laker fans who were still loyal to

(54:23):
Kobe Bryant and loyal to the players who came before him,
and they have spent most of their lives hating Lebron James.
The other spent fifteen years hating Lebron James, and now
they got a root for him. So okay, hey, Lebron's here,
and that we want to win. I want to win,
but there's just as big a part of the fan
base that will be as excited if they win. That
will be just as will feel just as much satisfaction

(54:47):
if they lose and Lebron can't do it. See, I
told you Lebron wasn't Kobe, Lebron wasn't shocked, Lebron wasn't magic,
Lebron wasn't worthy, And he will get a level of
hate that he is not ready for. And he he
thinks every thing is gonna be fine. Look, I'm here,
I'm detached, I'm all. But he is not ready for
the level of hate he's gonna get. And the day
after the season ends, he will jet back to Akron

(55:09):
and we won't see her here from they'll come back
the day before training camp and and and start and
do all these things. He's not ready because that's gonna
be the reaction, because there's just as big a faction
of Laker fans that are kind of rooting for him
to fail because they want to be able to say, see,
he wasn't one of our guys. He wasn't one of
our Laker Purple and gold all the way through, even
though Shot came in the middle of his career. It

(55:29):
was the prime of his career. Was here, Kobe was
there the whole time, so is Magic. You know, all
these guys, they've all been Lakers, and Lebron is still
technically not really a Laker yet. I got deep on
you there a little bit. I want to give you
the right answer. I want to give you right answer.
But don't get me wrong answers. I've done it before.

(55:50):
It's happened in school, like people said, yeah, I got
the right answers for the test, and people cheat off
you and then oh, yeah I didn't know. I'm sorry.
I'm an athlete. I'm an athlete. This test doesn't really count.
I'm getting the sixty five no matter what, I'm staying eligible.
We didn't get away with that at U c l
all you that. If I could have, I would have,
but not at U c l A. They weren't going
for that one, all right, They're not going for the

(56:10):
athlete treatment. That's fortunately actually had to go to class. Really,
I had to go at all of them that did
that slide. At U c l A did not slide.
I say that to say, no stunt double couldn't find
a seven foot tall guy like you that could go
to class and just take notes for you, no stunt
double that's l A. You could have been not not

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for my size, my size. UM. I have complete and
utter confidence and faith in Lebron James in this situation.
One thing about U c l A. I was a
history major. So as a history major, always looked back
to the history. What has happened before, what can we
draw from before? That applies to the now. We literally

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gern james career. There's always been some chaos, There's always
been something up in the air. He's always done it
his way. As you quoted earlier, my prerogative, prerogative, okay,
you ought to would go back to high school for
Lebron James. There's an investigation saying that Lebron took some money.

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He's driving around in a fifty Hummer at the time.
We're gonna take his eligibility away. In amidst the chaos,
Lebron James comes to u c l A for a
high school tournament. Uh sits in the locker right next
to myself with my boy Josiah Johnson, right next to
our lockers, and scores fifty points against Westchester a team

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that has probably had three or four professional athletes on
it at the time. Uh, all those guys into playing
pro gives them fifty points. Last year, Lebron james Cleveland
squad had Kevin Love depressed, Derek Rose ready to quit basketball,

(57:58):
Dwyane Wade falling apart, Isaiah Thomas was still wearing his
Boston gear the locker room. You know what I'm saying,
utter chaos coach, Hiron Lou coach, steps away. Coach. I
can't handle it because almost killed my man. T Lou Coach,
you gotta step away. I cannot handle it. Lebron James

(58:19):
goes in the NBA Finals, I wha, well, since you
since Ryan Hollins was playing, okay, laying for the for
the Celtics. We had Lebron James down three too. Excuse me,
we had him down three yeah, three too. We had
down three two at home with a chance to win, essentially,

(58:43):
chance to go into the NBA Finals and everything that
we had known or we had thought about. Lebron James
said that he was too soft. Uh, he wasn't prepared
for the moments. He wouldn't show up in a big game.
In our house, we were mentally top we were gritty,
we were He's not that type of guy. Lebron James
gives us about fifteen rebounds and eight or nine assist

(59:06):
Lebron James becomes Lebron James that day. But I say
that amidst chaos, amidst the loss to the Hawks, in
these situations where you look at this guy a man,
he ain't got it. They ain't what it's cracked up
to be. Ah, he he doesn't have enough around him,
Lebron James finds, Oh, Jay, I've seen it too much

(59:29):
to ever have a hesitation to say, as you alluded to,
you go into an off season where l a fan
base is gonna rip you apart because they can't wait.
They're quick to turn. These fans will be quick to
turn and say, you're not Kobe like you said, you're
not worthy, You're not you're not Kurt Ramos. No, you
know what I'm saying, You're not one of us. And

(59:50):
Lebron James will give l a moments that makes you go, huh, yeah, yeah,
he's one of us. But we gotta see that because
he's never shown that, you know, in all his other stops.
Say right away I'm in. You know, hey, I'm a
heat We're here with you know that had the big
We're gonna win five, six, seven championships all But I
have not seen that buying from him yet. Now that's

(01:00:10):
in the buying from him into hey, I'm a Laker
and this is what I'm here for, champion when I
he has always kept the Lakers at arm's length. He
has always been to the point of, you know, I'm
here to play basketball. But to even say the other day, well,
I'm not chasing anything. Whoa, whoa, whoa. I get you
think your legacy is secure, But dude, you're here to

(01:00:33):
win basketball championships first, and whatever else you want to do.
Hollywood and two TV shows on. That's like kind of secondary.
That's not like why you're out here. And hey, I'm
just happen work takes me out to Los Angeles. I mean,
I need, I need to know that he's in, and
I don't know that he is that in yet. I
don't know. I mean, you look, when Rondo hit the
game winning shot, who did Lebron celebrate with Rondo lance,

(01:00:54):
None of the young guys, none of those guys went
over none. It wasn't jumping around with him wasn't a
whole big thing. It was all the veterans there. I
I need him to buy and be a leader and
say hey, this is my team and I've not seen
that yet. You got You gotta understand it is realistic
that one of those young guys is gonna be moved.
It's very realistic. You also got to understand that when

(01:01:17):
things aren't going bad, when losses occur, you are going
to look at that. But as the winning happens, as
the playoffs happen, and I don't know what the winning
will mean and determine this year tb d tbd uh,
all those moments will be forgotten. All those moments will
be forgiven. And you gotta understand. We live in the era.

(01:01:40):
We live in a day and times where Lebron James
easily one of the most I guess I mean the most.
I mean, how would I say this one of them?
I mean easily. I want to hear me, hear me
the most for you, No, no, no, I want to
say this right. The moment is covered athlete ever, I

(01:02:03):
mean just media wise. I mean he can sneeze. Oh,
Laret is sick. Sick, somebody call the like like that
is the generation he lives in. So everything you're you're
grabbing on your hold, Like we didn't watch Jordan's cuss
out teammates on the bench and they go, Jordan isn't bad,

(01:02:24):
like like, there's so many things that were left by
that you have access to. We have acts. I mean,
there's a camera on Lebron James. There might be a
helicopter as he drives into the game every time. There's
nothing that this man can do without a seat. So
it's so easy to just jump into Jay. It's so easy.

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Patrick Show, Jason Smith My Show her nights here on
Fox Sports Radio. Ryan Hollins in for Dan. Both of
us have long days. I gotta come back and do
my show tonight. You got the Clippers game tonight against
the Suns, although it is the Sun's I mean, what
do you show up like at halftime? When you do
when you do a game against the Suns, do you
have to? It doesn't work that way when you're playing.

(01:04:12):
Maybe it's more of a night off, more of a
relaxed But when you're it's like pregame, those are the
tough games. But no, no, no, but you know that,
come on, those are the tough games the call. Those
are tough games to call. At least you're gonna get
a lot of points. That's the main thing. You You're
gonna get a lot of shots. You know, when you're
calling a game from a fans perspective, from a broadcast perspective,

(01:04:34):
you want a close game, you want a big game.
You don't you don't wanna. This means nothing. You don't
want to blow out. You know. Doesn't mean that you
can't have a good broadcast, but it's a it's a
lot tougher, all right, I hear you. Your job changes.
You're gonna walk in two minutes before the game starts. No,
that's the Suns are all good. I'm all good. What
are we gonna say, Devin Booker blah blah blah bla.

(01:04:55):
It's all good. But speaking of rooting for something, when
you're an NFL insider, you are always rooting for big
time stories in the off season. And we have a big,
juicy one this morning, as Antonio Brown has officially asked
the Pittsburgh Stealers for a trade, put up a post
on social media yesterday thanking Steelers fans for the last
nine years, and he is onto whatever is next? So

(01:05:18):
just what is next? We say hello and bringing Alex
Marvez serious X m NFL radio host, longtime NFL insider, Hey,
and what's happening this morning. I think we're gonna send
Antonio Brown to the Phoenix Suns, by the way, after
that past conversation, and they can get into the mix
here and try to spice to one of the few
teams that Ryan Hollins has not played for illustrious basketball career.

(01:05:39):
I look at this lengthy resume here and I'm looking Phoenix, Phoenix.
It's about everybody else but no Phoenix Suns. So that's why,
that's why you're anti Phoenix. I'm not anti phen No
I think you are anti Phoenix. No, I think you are.
I like Phoenix. You know there's another team. There's another
team in Phoenix, the Arizona Cardinals. When you look at

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some of the line down. Of course, we can bet
on everything nowadays, right and at online Dot a G
the Arizona Cardinals are listed as the favorites to claim
Antonio Brown, to acquire him in a trade, four to
one odds for the Cardinals to do this. Of course,
there's a sucker born every minute, and one has to
ask themselves first, Larry Fitzgerald and Antonio Brown and no, no, no, no, no,

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I want one. Those are two things that are degrees
diametrically opposed other than the fact they're incredible wide receivers.
But the Arizona Cardinals a team rebuilding right now. I mean, listen,
don't don't expect an instant going, you know, from the
worst team in the NFL do all of a sudden,
you know, winning a Super Bowl. This is gonna be
a little bit of a more gradual build for them.
And that's why I say for Antonio Brown, he makes

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sense more for a team that is ready to win now.
And I'm not even gonna talk about the other things
that go I have to mention him first. Do you
think Antonio Brown wants to play for thirteen or it's
gonna be fifteen point one million dollars this year That
would make him about the third or fourth highest paid
wide receiver in the NFL. That's not what Antona Brown
was all about. So whatever team acquired him by trade,
he's gonna have his hand out saying give me that

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Odell Beckham junior money. You're throw in the fact he's
thirty one years old as well. Oh and by the way,
his life off the field doesn't seem to be all
that great. If you understand what I'm saying. You put
all those things together, and yeah, there's gonna be a
team that takes a chance on him. Don't get me wrong,
but caveat m Torto. Whoever gets him to meet. The
San Francisco forty Niners seem to make a lot more sense.
By the way, they're the number five teams slotted on

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these bet online dot A G type odds. I listened
at five to one. You know, listen Kyle Shanahan, all
the good vibes that Jimmy Garoppolo stuff. Well, after last season,
not so much. And they are. I don't want to
say that they're under pressure to win now, but it's
a team that really does need to take that next
step and make some significant strides to catch the Rams
and the Seahawks. To me, Antonio Brown would make a
lot more sense there, plus a few of the stillers.

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Do you want to trade him in the conference and
potentially see him again? Not, not anytime soon. See the
thing is, though, I am I've already seen the future.
And tell me you can't see this when you close
your eyes. I see a press conference, I see Levy
On Bell and Antonio Brown standing smiling, holding up Jets
jerseys because the Jets gave all of their hundred million

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dollars to Levy On Bell and Antonio Brown. And here's
a new future. Here's what's happening now. I see it.
I can see the twenty six and the eighty four.
And that's exactly how it's gonna go, right, because Adam
Gates is a people person, right, and you know, during
his time with the Dolphins, he did such an incredible
job relating with his players. You know, Jarvis Landry, jay
A g I heat, do I need to continue down

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the list here? Jordan Phillips, the defensive lineman. I mean,
he had an incredible propensity to get rid of people
that that didn't buy into his ways. So the first
time he runs a foul of Antonio Brown and Levy
on Bell, what he can't it's not as easy as
it was in South Florida where he had control over
football operations. And can tell hey, listen, we're gonna trade
this guy for a magic sack of beams, right, And
ultimately that's what you know, a lot of what happened

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with with Adam Gates was in its inability to co
exist with players. The Jets, by the way, listen is
ten to one by bed online Dot A G. And
I do not have a sponsorship deal with them. I'm
just referencing them as a matter of as a matter
of course here, but I just you know, listen, you
know it's funny now too, because Miniche made a God
bless him, right New York Daily News and a guy
who can stir that pot. I will tell you that
suddenly he's off the Levy on Bell bandwagon. Now he's

(01:09:12):
on the Tevin Coleman bandwagon. And to me, Tevin Coleman
would make a lot more sense than Levy on Bell,
you know. And as far as Antonio Brown again, the Jets,
where are they going in second year quarterback? I just
there's so much that they have to get done, including
finding a pass rusher that I just don't know again,
if Antonio Brown is going to still be able to
help you when he's thirty two, thirty three years old.

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Right now, he's thirty one, and he's still in his prime,
and he's still a great wide receiver. Although one now
who I believe with his actions, is working his way
out of first ballot Pro Football Hall of Fame induction.
I think if this continues, you're talking about a guy
who would have been a slam dunk. I think now
he's becoming a modern era t O and that may
not go so well with voters. When you look at
Antonio Brown, can he be the same receiver outside of

(01:09:59):
Ben roths Burger? Is it Ben? Is it him? If
it's if it's the Cardinals, if it's the forty Niners.
What impact can a talent like Antonio Brown bring to
a team? You know, this is such a great question,
Ryan on multiple levels because one of the things that
Ben Roethlisberger had with the Pittsburgh Stellers was an outstanding
offensive line that gave him an opportunity to throw the

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football right. He had a complimentary running back and if
it wasn't Levian Bell, then it was James Conner. I
mean so and James did a nice job for much
of the season. So he got hurt and they didn't
have a great backup plan. So I think that's that's
part of it, right. I mean, you listen, there's so
much that goes into it. We've seen great receivers with
her on the vine because they just simply haven't had
the opportunity to add the quarterback, give him the football,

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and of course Antonio is going to have to build
a better relationship than the one that's happened right now
with Ben Roethlisberger, where everything is seemingly fallen apart, you know,
and you know, you have to ask yourself. For example,
the Green Bay Packers there listen at his number two
on this chart with nine to two odds of landing
Antonio Brown, which again seems wild to me. But you know,
could Antonio and Aaron Rodgers co exists, would they become
best friends forever all of a sudden. I mean, that's

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you know, it's a fair question to ask. So I
think just think that that that's part of what predicates
success of these players when they go somewhere. Plus, I
cannot say enough about someone's personal life and how they're
dealing with things. There's been some things that you know
with Antonio Brown, you know, police being called things like that.
You know, he didn't show up in courty. You know,
he get ticketed for a hundred miles an hour in
a in a speed zone, you know, in Pittsburgh in November.

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Is gonna pay the five dollar fine? Or so, and
you know isn't subject to the league's personal conduct policy.
But again, is this a guy who's doing things right
off the field that makes you feel comfortable? And will
he be able to assimilate on a new team? Will
he do the things right that clearly haven't been done
in Pittsburgh where the guy didn't show up to practice
before the biggest game of the season in Week seventeen.
He didn't show up. Oh and by the way, the

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separate Antonio Brown rules that he apparently had accord in
the ESPN doesn't have to stay with the team during
training camp. That's one of them, you know, getting you know,
all these special little perks that the Steelers gave him
that emboldened him to act the way that he did.
It is another team going to allow him to have
a separate set of rules. I'm not so sure that's
such a good idea. Alex Marve, a serious x m
NFL radio host, an insider, our guest here on the

(01:12:09):
Dan Patrick Show, Jason Smith, Ryan Hollins in for Dan
and the Dan Nets. I know, when it comes to
what compensation would be for Antonio Brown, the Steelers, according
to sources, have kind of floated out there they expect
to get a first round pick back. Now, certainly a
first round pick and maybe even more would have been
great in theory. But I'll tell you, Alex, not showing
up for the game, I mean not showing up for

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practice and being benched when you need to get to
the playoffs. The fact that you're okay with that being
an outcome. I can't see a team saying, all right,
we're gonna we're gonna release a high first round pick
from knowing if things go bad, he could just not
show up. Right and now, Jason, another question is, so
where does the blonde mustache fit into all this that
Antonio Brown has adopted. Do you think that could swing

(01:12:51):
a more compensation the marketing aspect of that, right, you know,
it just depends on what type of fan base you're
trying to appeal to. It's a very bold statement by
Antonio Brown, one I could appreciate. Also, one has to
wonder if his if his costume from the Mass singer
will be coming into play here, right that does he
get to keep the hippo costume or is that property
of NBC. I mean that that's a little bit about

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my pay grade to know those things. You know, when
it comes to these types of trades, you're absolutely right.
You know, when it came to the ramps, for example,
trading for Brandon Cooks, a younger wide receiver, you know.
Also you know it was a late first round pick,
relatively late and number twenty three. So if you're a
team that's picking in the twenties, absolutely this makes a
lot of sense for you. And you just look at
the hit and misrate of college wide receivers. It's shaky.

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And we had a couple of years in the NFL
where there were some players drafted who simply didn't pan out,
and that has left you know, a real lack of
some quality wide receivers out there. And you know, so
I think that's a that's another consideration. If you're a
team in the twenties or thirties, you talk about it
and you see what's reasonable. But let me just say this,
Antonio Brown, and by the way, just because he says
he's leaving Pittsburgh, Levan Bell thought he was leaving Pittsburgh, right,

(01:13:57):
So there's never any guarantee on these things. Steeler's minister
is going to have to have something that they want.
I mean, they're stubborn, they're in trench. Look, they traded
Franco Harris to Seattle, Okay because of a contract dispute,
So understand that this is a long seated history with
the Pittsburgh Steelers. But I think a first round pick
is probably reasonable, you know, by a team, especially a contender.
But can you see San Francisco trading a top five

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pick for Antonio Brown. No, so it may have to
be a second round pick, which is relatively high in
the second round, and then maybe you throw in a
mid round pick later compensation, and even staggered to the
twenty twenty draft to try to get this deal done.
Talk to me about Kyler Murray. How realistic is this
that he's the first quarterback off the board? What you know?
What do you what do you make of this situation?

(01:14:40):
Because this is not a deep draft for quarterbacks. It's
has to have, you know, kind of enticed him to
come out and come to the NFL. But what what
how does this thing play out for the draft? Right?
I'm gonna ask you a question here. Did you take
a sadistic pleasure all seven feet of you and swatting
away passes from little guys swatting away shots. Did you
enjoy it? It was? It was personal for me. Every

(01:15:03):
time a little guy came like it was personal, like
he cannot he can't score, and maybe somebody else been
not him right well, and that's well, this is the
first when we talk about Kyler Murray. Let's see if
he flew to Yesque when he gets measured at the
NFL scout and combine, in other words, is five ft
nine because that is going to scare away some teams.
And you know, it's been interesting reading about this, like
the history of the New York Giants. Even fran Tarkinton

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was listed as six ft tall and that was the
last short quarterback that they seemingly had right in the
Giants of course, seemingly leading the list as well right now,
at least in the draft order of a team that
would want a quarterback because of that size. Even though
we only had five passes batted down at the line
of scrimmage last year. He is not going to be
everybody's cup of tea. Another thing, hand size. This is
significant as well. Why hand size? Any quarterback who measures

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under nine inches of hand size has a propensity to fumble.
Dave Craig, for example, the most in NFL history, you
know for a quarterback. Why well he had an eight
and three eight since hand, so you know it contributed
to it. You know sometimes in coal whether you need
to be able to hold onto the football, and having
a bigger hand helps in that regard. So it's great
Jo Brand God bless him, my serious x M co host.
He shook Kyler Murray's hand, and based upon that handshake,

(01:16:11):
he believes that Kyler Murray has hands that are about
nine inches and three quarters. That's what he thinks. I
love it. He can he can try to judge the
man's hand size based upon a handshake. God bless That's
why he's going to the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
But I mean, but you know that's significant as well.
So these are some of the measurables that come to him. Look,
he's a fantastic player. The thing is the team has
to have a vision about how they want to use him.

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You can't, look, he's not going to be a drop
back passer. Traditionally, you're gonna you're gonna want to move
him around some You can still make throw us from
the pocket, but you have to have that vision of
what you think he's going to become for you. So
I think Dwayne Haskins, by the way, who's a passing quarterback.
I just wanted to make sure we clarify that in
case people are listening to other shows. Her for a
hundred yards is senior year. I mean that's you know,

(01:16:52):
a hundred yards over eleven twelve games is like ten
yards of game exactly doesn't and that doesn't count the
Neil downs, right, So you know, we so we've we've
got Dwayne Haskins, who really is the guy that's the
number that seems to be the conventional number one pick.
And let me just give you an example just by
the way, I'm system fit. You know John Elway throughout
his career with the Denver Broncos as a general manager,
he's in the early rounds. He's gone for the tall guys, right,

(01:17:14):
brock Oswiler, you know, Peyton of Paxton Lynch, and I know,
look how well it worked out for him, right, But
the point is that he seems, you know, committed to
those types of players. So if you have a team
that has a quarterback need, how do they feel about
a guy who's a little bit shorter and does the
offensive coordinators to share the same vision. If he's the
second quarterback off the board, it doesn't shock me. Drew
lock is going to be a guy who really impresses
a lot of people. You know, I think you also,

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you know, Daniel Jones of Duke is gonna be someone
that people talk about. Will Career of West Virginia another
guy that's in this quarterback a mix as far as
potential first round picks. But the weird thing about this
draft as well, when you look at the team's drafting
in the first round, not a whole heck of a
lot of them need a quarterback. Want us to wonder
two With the New England Patriots be interested in Kyler
Murray as a potential back up to Tom Brady, and

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maybe they see a different vision about the future of football,
you know, in the post Tom Brady era. Hey, they've
taken quarterbacks high before. Tom Brady isn't sensitive about it.
Jimmy Garoppolo, at least publicly, But Jimmy Garoppolo ended up
being great trade bait for them. Same thing went for
Jacobe Brissette. If Tom Brady plays to a hundred black down,
he's on track to do Hey, you just trade Kyler
Murray in a few years recoup your pick. All right, Now,

(01:18:17):
when when it comes to the latest news involving Kyler Murray,
obviously we're trying to connect the dots. You're a little bit.
Cliff Kingsbury had said in the past Kyler Murray, I
love him so much, I'd take him number one overall. Well,
now you have the Arizona Cardinals picking number one Cliff
Kingsbury their new head coach. He did come out yesterday
and say, no, Josh Rosen is our guy. We're not
taking Kyler Murray. We believe him. Yeah, I think you

(01:18:40):
have to, and I think you know, look, part of
it's just a financial commitment, but you've already made to
Josh Rosen has a number one overall pick. I mean,
your your cap hit is just so so enormous on this,
you know, even if you spread it out, I mean,
you're still swallowing a whole heck of a lot of money.
And what does that say about your scouting assessment that
you've already washed your hands from Josh Rosen? Really, I mean,

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and look, I think Kyler Murray. I mean again, you know,
if Cliff Kingsbury is sitting there saying, I need to
have Kyler Murray as my quarterback. I cannot win with
Josh Rosen. Well, you're gonna do one of two things.
Either you're gonna move on from him quicker than he
moved on from Steve Wilkes, or you're gonna you're gonna
make a move. But I think the Cliff Kingsbury when
he was hired, I'm sure one of the reasons that
the Cardinals hired him was I can make Josh Rosen

(01:19:21):
a winning quarterback and things will work out. But look, again,
great speculation, great talk. It's February. Do we really want
to talk Alliance of American Football? I didn't think so.
So if we want to, if we want to discuss
you know, Cliff Kingsbury's man crush on Kyler Murray, that's fine.
And look, he could love you could love players. There's
coaches around the league who love different types of quarterbacks
and who said that they'd like to have that happened.

(01:19:41):
But it's not Cliff Kingsbury's decision to make. And by
the way, if you're Steve Time, you know you need
to you need to hit on a first round pick.
You need to get this number one pick right. By
the way, have you looked at what Arizona has done
the past six years, the Robert Kinds of the world,
Oh my god. I mean, it has been a graveyard
of number one picks for the Cardinals. They got to
nail this one. I just think Kyler Murray just too
many factors involved financially, and they've already made this commitment

(01:20:04):
to Josh Rosen and I do think Josh can be
a very good NFL quarterback, just needs a little bit
of help around him. You can follow on Twitter at
Alex Marvez at Alex Marvez, Sirius X and NFL radio
host and insider. Check out Alex on his next show
with your Alliance of American Football free agent Waiver Wire
picks in his fantasy league. Alex has always we look
forward to all of that information and more. I am

(01:20:26):
XFL guys next year. Thanks thinking everybody, we'll talk soon.
There goes Alex Marvez, Jason Smith, Ryan Hollins in for
Dan and the Dan. That's you know, That's the thing
about Kyler Murray is that, yeah, there's gonna be these questions,
but somebody's going to jump up to get him. I
mean you all you need. It's like in a in
a market, you just need one team. That team is
gonna be the Raiders. You just need one team to say, yes,

(01:20:48):
I'm in love with you and you're our guy, and
someone's gonna go get You could have thirty teams go yeah,
just one team. So I need one team and that's
gonna happen. I feel like m h in the NFL
would just seeing more stories like this, and these kids
are successful. We're just seeing more stories with the quarterbacks.

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And it's not just Carler Murray, it's Lamar Jackson. Uh,
it's the kid over in Cleveland. There's just a number
of kids and they're successful. You know, a lot of
the things they do are starting to translate. It's just
it's a very intriguing time in the NFL. And these
are all guys who are shorter than you. I mean
that's really something. These are all guys are guys are

(01:21:29):
foot shorter than you. You got a question who's taller
than me? You got a question who's taller? But when
we talk about who's shorter, come on, Jay Twitter out
out about of Fresco. Ryan at the Ryan Hollins Jason Spread,
Ryan Hollins in for Dan Patrick. Coming up next and
NBA superstar hates the referees. No, I mean really hates
the referees. In fact, he said it last night and

(01:21:51):
cursed and now is making headlines. We got that story
coming up next. You will hear it on Fox Sports Radio,
Fox Sports Radio, The Dan Patrick Show. Jason Smith, Ryan

(01:22:11):
Hollins in for Dan My show, Heard nights here on Fox.
Catch Ryan here on Fox Sports Radio. Catch them doing
clipper games, catch them everywhere. I'm catching them today right
now in his clippers, long sleeve Nike top and his
Sacramento Kings pants. You are committing all kinds of sports
fraud right now. I mean, you just you can't do that.

(01:22:33):
But I don't wear Nike and Adidas. I don't wear
Nike and Reeboke. Well actually I think what you can
wear Reebok and Adidas because they own each other, because
Adidis owns Rebok. But like you know, that's like my version.
I don't do that. I can't believe clippers and you
were in Sacramento Kings pants. This wasn't supposed to happen.
They're not supposed to see me right now. But they
see me because that's what it is. Well, yesterday you

(01:22:55):
and I talked about how I like to get up,
and you know, I put my clothes out in the
living room. So when I get up at four in
the morning and get dressed and will wake up my
wife and daughter, you're up turning lights on, TV's on,
making coffee, You're listening to music and everything. So I'm
thinking maybe today you just kind of grab clothes and
we're quiet, so your wife and everybody can sleep in
your house. And I think that might be. While you're
wearing the Clippers shirt and the Sacramento Kings pants, You're

(01:23:18):
really started to know me. It really started to me. Look,
I went with the iPhone light today. You did really started.
I'll tell you know. It really is not good because
you're you're you're ripping me not. But here's why it's good,
because now your wife is like, boy, Ryan is so thoughtful.
You know, he got up, gets up in the morning
and you know it doesn't turn the lights on anymore,
and you know, listen to music and get on his

(01:23:39):
phone and everything and turn the TV on. But I
think that's really something he's really becoming a he's really
becoming a man. You know, are she good things? You
have an attitude? You know, so there's that's something else.
Don't play your drum set anymore. You are You're very
You're very in tune with every and I see that
nothing gets by Jason Smith. Now, I'm a people person,

(01:24:00):
your people reader. Try to do you sometimes like go
grab a coffee center. Just people watching people watching is awesome.
People watching people watch. And I'm a big person that
that I can meet somebody the first time and know
who they are and then maybe things change a little
bit of the course I know them, but in the
end they're gonna be that person. Am I the same

(01:24:21):
person you originally met? This completely different? Uh? Speaking of
being completely different, we got something like that from Joel
Embiid following the Celtics victory over the seventies Sixers last night. Look,
it's been an up and down season for the Celtics.
They're trying to get by without Kyrie. They beat the

(01:24:43):
Sixers one twelve, one o nine. A huge game from
Al Horford, who usually matches up pretty well against Joel
embi Now. They both had big stat stuffing lines, but
it was embiat after the game who had this message
for the officiating in the contest. Tell us how you

(01:25:03):
really feel the referees blank and suck. Hey, you know
what else sucks when when you get to your house
today and there's a big FedEx envelope that says, here's
the fine you're gonna pay for insulting the referees. The
referees blanking suck. He was not happy. So how do
I explain this to you? Obviously there's a lot of

(01:25:25):
emotions in there, you know. Joel em Beats speaks out.
Have you ever had anything stolen from you? Oh? Yeah?
All the food I put in the refrigerator here just
disappears if you leave it more than like two hours,
And it's different than when you gave it away. It's
different than when maybe you lost it, which is still front.

(01:25:46):
Maybe you you had somebody steal from you, right Like,
this is something that's mine. I bought, I owned, I purchased,
and someone stole it from me sandwich several times. And
I'm mad for you. I'm mad for you hearing it
right now. I mean, this is down the sandwich that
I put in there, that's like a full sandwich I bought.
It's like sometimes it's half a sandwich. I haven't finished yet,
gone someone takes it need well, Jason. Sometimes the referee

(01:26:09):
still your sandwich. Sometimes NBA referees will still your sandwich.
And when you know there's a tight game and there
are a couple of players that influence the game, where
you know you got fouled, you felt a hand elbow,
something on your wrist that stopped you from shooting, you

(01:26:31):
literally feel like somebody stole something from you. Now it
was a closed game, as I see you, you brought up.
The score was a hundred and twelve to one on nine.
This is a one possession of basketball game in which
Joel was raked across the arm light slightly and Horford
does the veteran move. I was always taught this in
college and taught this in the NBA. If you ever

(01:26:53):
foul a guy, and it's where it works. If you're
a fouler guy, you gotta understand, referees, our game is
so big. We're so big, so strong, so fast. If
you ever had the opportunity to go to an NBA
game or college, is gonna be sit on the floor
so you really see how fast these guys are. So
whenever you foul somebody or something, you throw your hands
straight up, so it's almost like showing the referee I
didn't do it. You could have grabbed somebody, you could

(01:27:14):
have you could have punched him in the guy. But
as soon as the referee you throw your hands straight
up in the airs high you can throw them up,
and some of the referees go, oh man, nothing happens,
and you look over the guys complaint. Well. Al Horford
being the veterans veteran which you will say he is
right now that team and just probably in the league,
he did the same move on and Bead, and he
schooled and Bead in the closing minutes of the game.

(01:27:36):
And you saw the same in the playoffs last year
when they challenged each other. And now joelan beat is
look at the referee is going this is this is
absolutely nuts. It's not necessarily who win, who's the better player,
It's the guy who plays the rules, who knows how
to get away with the most because at the end
of the day, you know what matters, Celtics win the
game and not the sixers. And now embat is trying

(01:27:59):
to figure out how that happened, Bro, how'd that happen?
Bro Jay, how that happened? Bro? See, I always like
when you tell I always like My favorite move was,
you know, instead of putting your hands up, was the
Bruce Bowen move when a guy would go in for
a layup and he would pull down on the off
hand to get you a little bit off balanced guy
with this and that, Like he did that to Steve
Nash so many times, and Steve nashmull just want to
kill the guy. But used to see that it would

(01:28:20):
be so subtle, just like I'm gonna yank on your
off end. No, I didn't do anything. I didn't do anything.
It doesn't take I got the bow tie on. I'm
all good, I'm good, this is fine. Good Twitter at
How about a Fresco Ryan at the Ryan Hollins. Sometimes
the referees steal your sandwich. Coming up next, we'll look
back at Duke's big comeback win last night against Louisville

(01:28:42):
and ask a big question about Zion Williamson And since
Michael Jordan's throwing shade at James Harden and Russell Westbrook,
who would Michael Jordan's b if he was playing in
the NBA right now. The answer is gonna surprise you
that's coming up next. Fox Sports Radio Formation checks the

(01:29:03):
snap farewell football. With the NFL season over, it's time
to focus our energies on the NBA. Repelicans will not
be in this situation again. I better get a big
hole in return. The good news is nobody does it
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(01:29:24):
on the players. He's Anthony Davis to the newsbreaker. Adrian
Wolding Around said the analysts bringing Kenny Smith. Don't miss
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(01:29:53):
from the Mercedes Studios in Los Angeles, California. This is
that Dan Patrick Show. Similar to the NBA. We have
an all star break of our own. It's almost like
spring breaks. Samely, Dan Patrick, he's not here, something's missing,
but filling in. We have a couple of rising stars
of our own. Come on, we didn't come to the

(01:30:14):
game to see that. Jason Smith and Ryan Holly's welcome
inside our three of the Dan Patrick Show here on
Fox Sports Radio. My show heard nights here on Fox.
Ryan Hollins got the Clipper game tonight, coming up against
the Phoenix Suns, one of the few teams in the
NBA he did not play for. I didn't know you

(01:30:36):
you played for eight teams. Nine we'll just affect the
Hornets change your name. That doesn't count as two step
separate teams. Nine teams? Okay, I thought it was eight,
all right, but not Phoenix. Who's the one team you
wish you played for? Lakers? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I mean

(01:30:57):
maybe more of a friends and family thing, you know
what I'm saying. It's just like, okay, I was I
was a Laker or nick you know. You know obviously
all the free gear you would get, it would be awesome.
Will you come to the media you're on our side
and go, yeah, when day you tell your kids I
was a Laker one day? No, no, no, But I
wouldn't trade my clippers in for anything. I'll tell you them.
Look at you, Clipper, trade my clippers in for anything?

(01:31:20):
You are Clippers as you're wearing a Clippers shirt and
Sacramento Kings you were something else? Why you don't stop there?
There were listeners that they had to go to work
five minutes ago, and he tuned out, and then you
remind you re remind everybody. There's listeners who are going
to work wearing two different socks and they go, you know,
I kind of like that Hollands guy wearing a Clippers

(01:31:42):
shirt and Sacramento King sweats and he got for free.
I kind of like that wearing Jordan's shoes. I'm sure
you got when you play. Are you wearing something from
all nine teams? All right? Because you got Jordan's socks, right,
So there's that shoes are from what team? The team
shoes I have. I've had team shoes before, but you know,
you kind of go aside from that, all right, I'm

(01:32:04):
thinking maybe you could you do that? Could you do
one day come in and you wear an article of
clothing from all nine teams you played for? You wear
three shirts every day. You're one of those guys that
wears like a shirt and a shirt over. And I
don't think I have enough articles, you know, yeah, I
would have an I have too many teams, all right,
we don't wear that many. I mean, you can't think shoes, socks, pants, underwear, shirt,

(01:32:30):
you wear two shirts at least seven. I can't get
wrist band and a hat. And already I'm at nine boom.
You just you want me to You just want me
to be a mess, don't you You want me to
be a complete Your gear is just Jim gear, right,
Is that what it is? It's just gear and getting
up early. Nobody was supposed to see me or talk
about the things I'm wearing today. Well that's good because this,

(01:32:52):
you know, what we're doing right now is being filmed
and we're gonna put it on Fox Sports radio. Well
we didn't feel me yesterday. Well thanks, Well it happens
some times this, you know, look, radio is now a
usual medium. I see what I did there. It happens.
The world's gonna get to see you with your clippers
shirt and you're a second one. They can't see it.
You just keep bringing it out. Still. They still have
a lot of cigarettes, and he still gonna pair of

(01:33:12):
cigarettes in there. A couple of things. But he's great.
But he's just as cool as you would imagine in person.
He seems cool. Everything says it's cool. I mean, you
know how many people have had a cigarette with him
and just hung out and just hang I mean it's amazing. Uh.
Two big stories coming off of last night. Number one,
the Duke come from behind victory over the Louisville Cardinals.

(01:33:34):
They were down by twenty in the second half. They
fought back behind Zion Williamson, and this is how it ended.
Fadeaway chumper, no good, si On fights for the rebon.
He's done it. That'll do it. The flue Devil's roar
from twenty three down. So when at Louisville seventy one
to six nine, you know that the uh Duke radio

(01:33:58):
network guy sounds like the oles old PA announcer and
from North Carolina six six guard. So they come from
behind to win. Zion Williamson has a huge game, eight
out of nine from the free throw line. And after
the game, when he was asked, hey, you know you're
able to come from behind and win this game? You
were getting drilled. He reminded everybody, you know what, Coach

(01:34:19):
K only coaches winners. What were some of the things
that Coach K was talking to you about in the
huddles to keep you believing? He said, he don't coach
losers to coach winners. He said, go out that play hard.
He can coach U. So I like that, I don't
coach that. That's like sounds like something from a Will
Ferrell movie. I don't coach losers. I only coach winners.
You're either first or your last. I gotta dig that
from Coach K. I love it. Uh to me, it's

(01:34:42):
just impressive that Zion bought into that system. He bought
into going to Duke, he bought into Coach K. He
didn't go to a Kentucky. He didn't go to another
school that he wouldn't have gotten the same uh coaching,
the same treatment. This guy's being coached up right. Now,
you got the most. You got one of the possibly

(01:35:07):
the greatest collegiate athlete of all time in Zion Williams.
Just a freak athlete. A guy that big, that's strong,
that fast, jump that high, is allowing himself to be coached.
You look at Zion. We can talk about how we're
all he is. Well, he doesn't dribble great, he dribbles okay.
You know, he doesn't shoot great, he shoots okay. Well,

(01:35:29):
he doesn't understand the game of basketball yet, Well, guess what,
he's in a perfect position where he can learn. We've
seen kids like that. Well, heck, we've seen kids a
lot less talented. Half is talented. Okay, kids think they
just walk on water when it comes to the game
of basketball. Zion Williams and hustling learning a game of basketball,

(01:35:49):
finding a position speaks volumes about the player that he's
going to be. And we talked about this team coming
back from twenty down. If I'm a scout in the NBA,
as I scout and draft and and and see what
who Zion is, They're gonna go back and watch this
game down twenty versus them blowing somebody out or another.

(01:36:10):
Just fantastic when they're gonna watch these games when he's
put in a pressure field situation. Because if you're supposed
to be this guy r J Barrett cam Reddish Okay,
Zion Williamson, who are you down tent bro? Because I
want to know who you are? So with the comeback,
you and I talked earlier in the show about Zion Wims. Look,

(01:36:30):
he's not even the first option on the team. Uh,
he's like probably the third option on the team when
they're looking for points. But as far as how he
translates to the next level, because now today is all
about Zion Williamson and Duke and everything and and you know,
and I get to look they own the news cycle
for that. But the one thing that worries me for
Zion Williamson as I get ready to have my knicks,

(01:36:50):
Zion Williamson, Jersey ready, and I'm thinking, oh with Katie, Yeah,
I know, it's tough. It's been a long forty years.
Uh well, now we had ninety mine and we had four.
We came close and and that was kind of it.
Then then Isaiah took over and yeah, and then pretty
much things haven't gotten better since then. Man, oh, Isaiah.

(01:37:13):
Isaiah was tough man. He was tough. I think they're
still paying Jared Jeffries unless you know him. If you
know him, that's awesome, but you know that. But the
one thing that concerns me about it look athletic, running
up and down the floor, and and he has shown
that he has really men men against boys now getting
to the next level. Everybody's athletic, But the skill set
he has is really different than so many different big men.

(01:37:36):
But the thing that gets me though, is he is
a big kid already. He goes to eighty five. Nobody
in the NBA is two eighty five. I think maybe
one or two players can go right around to eight
five nobody's that big and you're nineteen. Now when you
get to the NBA, are they gonna take more care
of you? And you're doing this professionally. Now, we're gonna
make sure that you eat right and everything is good.

(01:37:58):
You get into right weight training program am obviously, but
sometimes you can't stop genetics. You're five and you're eighteen,
nineteen years old, you're gonna turn into a really big guy.
Two guys, uh, come to mind? Two guys come to mind? Now,
obviously we can go the the south route. We can
go south with this and everybody's worried about that, or

(01:38:18):
you can go north. And when I say north, I
mean the positive route. Uh. DeAndre Jordan's Nana Hilario Nana
was chubby. Name was chubby in his early years in
the NBA. Couldn't move well, didn't jump as high, wasn't explosive,
didn't have pop backup player, not impressive in the NBA.

(01:38:39):
When Summer comes back, fixes his diet, gets committed in
the weight room, Literally, dude comes back, chiseled, becomes a
heck of an NBA player, dominant big man in the league.
Second guy, I think about DeAndre Jordan's DeAndre Jordan's early
in the NBA was not that effective. And jump is

(01:39:00):
high and run is fast. You saw his athleticism, he's okay.
Player Don j. Jordan committed himself to his nutrition, to
his diet, to the postseason workouts, due becomes a stud
in the n B. A Zion is a guy that
you don't need to weight from. You need the you
need the cardio, you need the conditioning. And what's freaky

(01:39:21):
about a player like that is he can already run
and jump. So now you've got to allow him to
know how important his nutrition is because that's gonna last
them through eighty two games. And he's a guy that
you don't want to take for granted. You know, you're
saying he's two eight right now, at his age eighteen
nineteen years old, you're still eating French fries and pizza. Bro.

(01:39:44):
You know what I'm saying. You know you're not adding
no type of weight, right think about like late night,
two am, like, hey j let's go have a pizza run.
How about those burritos? How about that copy he's still doing. Yeah, well,
we pay for it now. You paid for it now,
all right? You do that without working out? You paid
for it. So I say that that's gonna be something

(01:40:05):
that he's going to have to commit himself to. Not
on a basketball side, basketball verse. I'm gonna give you
two angles on how he's going to be effective in
the new NBA. Two angles. This is something he's gonna
have to be, not good, but great at two angles.
He can pick one of two. Now, if he picks both,
he's a Hall of Famer. He picks both out, it's
one of those picks the Knicks. No, I'm not saying picks,

(01:40:28):
but I'm talking about commit himself because great Either he's
gonna have to be a great shooter, knock down three
point shooter because the game is played from the three
point line, and if I have to chase a guy
with a forty inch vertical at two pounds off the
three point line, there's no one gonna stop him at
the rim. Secondly, if it's not that, and I think

(01:40:49):
he's gonna be good at one and have to be
great at the other to be efficient of what we're
talking to the NBA. We're talking Lebron, James Good, We're
talking Kevin Durrant Good. We're gonna mention him with those
names in the second is gonna be playmaking? Is he
gonna be a guy I can give the basketball to
Ali Draymond Green and say he can go and get
his own shot, or dish in past two other guys

(01:41:12):
and create shots for them. If you watch Lebron James,
who in my mind and we can talk about this
is none of the greatest player of all time. What
makes him so effective? You gotta pick your poison. The
guy is not just bigger, stronger, faster when he gets
in the lane. If you don't stop him, he's good
enough to score the basketball when you double team him.
He can find shooters all around himself. If I get

(01:41:33):
two thirds of the equation, we're in good company. Bro.
With that type of size and athleticism. And Zan is
a guy who's actually and I'm mentioning this, I'm not
talking about the post yet. He's a guy who's comfortable
playing on the wings. He does not mind being on
the perimeter. And he's got that we call it, we
got that wiggle. He can move his hips. That's why
you love what you see. And if you are a scout,

(01:41:55):
you salivate watching those things. Because he's not a robot.
He's not a traditional Big Guy Jason Smith. Ryan Hollands
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Limitations they do apply well. Coming up next, I'm ready
to say, Hey, we're gonna talk about Antonio Brown. He's
demanded a trade from the Pittsburgh Steals. Will breakdown where
he's gonna go, oh no, what's the line from Say Anything?
John q Seck says, oh no, my brother. Because the
first big domino in the off season of the NFL

(01:42:56):
has fallen. ESPN is Adam Scheftra is reporting Baltimore has
agreed to trade, Joe Flacco. Flacco is leaving Baltimore. Where
is the ending up? We'll tell you. Oh, coming up next,
not my first, not my first rodeo, that's coming up
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(01:44:00):
Dan Patrick Show Jason Smith Ryan Hollins in for Dan
and the Dan Nettes today. Can you hear my show
nights here on Fox Sports Ready, I'll be back in tonight.
I'm sure our lead story will be the Joe Flacco trade.
While Ryan's on the air doing Clippers game. You'll maybe
called talking about the Joe Flacco trade while doing the
Clippers game tonight. It could be happening for you. I

(01:44:22):
don't think the Clippers audience is going to be interested in,
uh Joe Flacco trade. Something tells me that's not gonna
be a hot topic of the Clippers Keys to success tonight. Sorry, listen,
we're elite alright, so we're not gonna talk about But
according to ESPN, is Adam Schefter, the Baltimore Ravens have
an agreement in principle to trade the former Super Bowl

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m v P two the Alliance America. They have an
agreement to trade Joe Flapper's he going? Where's he going?
The Denver Broncos. John Elway has remade the quarterback position
once again and kind of reuniting Flacco with Vic Fangio,

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new Broncos head coach, because Flacco and Fangio spent one
season together in Baltimore, And of course, Broncos former executive
coach consultant Gary Kubiak big fan of Flacco. Adam Schefter,
tweeting this out as well, has talked about how much
he liked Joe Flacco. This was a big selling point

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for the Broncos and getting Joe Flacco. So here it is.
Flacco is now going to be a member of the Broncos. Now,
the trade cannot be finalized until the new year begins
for the NFL, but the deal has been agreed to
right now. So that's March thirteen. But this is a
great move for the Broncos because every team is unique
as far as what they need and how you go

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get a quarterback. Some teams go, okay, we gotta go
get that franchise quarterback. We got to get him at
the top of the draft. We gotta get our guy
for the next twelve or fifteen years. That's what the
Browns had to do, what the Jets had to do,
what the Cardinals had to do. But the Bills, we
gotta go get our guy. Some teams say, you know
what we need are we need a bridge quarterback. We
need a guy to get us for a couple of
years until we can get that franchise quarterback. Because we

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don't draft high enough in the draft to get a
franchise guy. Guys are gonna be out there free agent wise.
We need a bridge guys with someone who's a little
bit cheaper than maybe comes in for a couple of years.
And then you get this situation where teams are loaded
just about everywhere but need that quarterback to get them
to the next level. Can they afford to wait and

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draft a quarterback. No, because the team is built to
win now. So they gotta go find a guy who
is good enough to be there for the long term,
but is also available. There's not many guys like that.
You have to thread a pretty tough needle. The Jacksonville
Jaguars that's exactly who they're in the market for because
they're built to win right now. They've got a defense
that's good. But you know, these guys are in their prime,

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getting to thirty, maybe a little bit past thirty. They're
built to win right now. It's also pretty combustible locker room,
so you gotta take advantage of your opportunity before you
start shipping guys off. The Broncos are also in that
case because the Broncos have a pretty good team. They
remade their offense. They said goodbye it to Marius Thomas.
They've built it around Philip Lindsay, who was a pretty
good running back. Their defense is very good. They just

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needed somebody better than case Keenum. Look, I could have
told you last year case Keenum had a moment in
time with the Minnesota Vikings. Sometimes you fit in with
your team better than you'd fit in anywhere else, and
to go get him for a couple of years or
a year, all right, you kind of bridged it. But
Elway has biff the quarterback decision for a long time.
You know, Peyton Manning was great and then it was

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brock Oswiler's hand pick that didn't work out. Mark Sanchez
coming and that didn't work out. Trevor Simeon came in.
It was all right for a few games, but then
that didn't work out. He is biff the quarterback decision
for a long time. Flacca was someone who still has
the skill set, who is a former Super Bowl m
v P, who was still playing at a high enough level,
has the respect of all the players in the locker room,

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has a respect to the coaching staff, and can come
in and be a leader and be a guy that
throws the football. Well, you go and play in den
her you get ten more yards on your ball regardless
because of the way the air is a mile high.
That's why peyton Man was able to have such a
good last couple of years to his NFL career because
he got more feet on the football because of that.

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So Flacco is gonna extend his prime a little bit. Obviously,
it's you know, it's not Flacco five seven years ago.
Is Flacco elite? Was he ever really elite quarterback? No?
But he is good enough to take the Broncos to
big heights. And now suddenly everybody in the FC West
is pissed because now the Chiefs saying now he's a
team we gotta worry about. The charges are saying, here's
on the team we have to worry about. Finally, John

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Elway got the quarterback decision right in bringing in Joe
Flacco because there wasn't many other guys gonna be available.
He knew Flacco was available, and they pounced on him,
and they got the move done early. This is a
great move by Denver. You gotta think the Giants already
are going to be in that sweepstakes, you know, So
for John Elway to do that early and not wait, uh,
it's a factor. And as you said, they're a veteran team,

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so you don't want to wait. You know, they can't
kind of experiment with a young guy. And when I
when I think of Flacco, I think of Nick Foles.
Why do I say that there are two guys there
who have done it before. I know you can win
a Super Bowl. I can't say that about every quarterback
in the league. And if those are your goals, I

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need to know I have somebody who's capable. And Tom
Brady clearly is clearly is showing us that the quarterback
position is a position of skill if you have the
right scheme and you play football the correct way. Joe
Flacco is more than capable, as you just stated, so
I like the move in that regard. I'm also interested

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where Nick Foles ends up. Okay, where do a number
of these quarterbacks that are capable, are good enough to win?
Where do they land? How serious are some of these
organizations about winning now? I always believe you gotta do
it now. That's my upset nous with the Steelers and
not bringing back Levian Bell. You don't know how much

(01:49:59):
longer you have. I've been Roethlisberger, Antonio Brown and those guys.
So you don't bring back Laby on bail over a
money dispute. Pay the money now, cut him, worry about
him later. Get the best out of what you have.
If we look at basketball, I like that Philly has
gone all in on Jimmy Butler until Bias Harris on
those guys. Because as a former athlete, sometimes your windows

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this big bro, and as if franchises organization, sometimes you
can't think about tomorrow. You gotta think about today. And
if you're the Denver Broncos and you're bringing in a
guy like Joe Flacco, you're thinking about today. You know
how much time, you're gonna have Chubb, Chubb and Miller
on there on your life. Like you know what I'm saying,
Like those it's a special situation going on that just

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makes sense. Now, how far over the top does this
push them? I don't know. I can't guarantee. What does
Joe Flacco look like? I know one darn thing, And
tell me if I'm wrong on this. He's motivated. Bro
Oh that that's one thing when you get later in
your career and you're motivated to to prove your team wrong.
That's a really big deal. Jason Smith, Ryan Hollins And

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for Dan and the dan Nettes, big news breaking right now.
The Broncos have agreed to acquire Joe Flacco from the
Baltimore Ravens. The deal can be official when the new
league year begins on Wednesday, March thirteenth. Teams can't comment
on that, so you're not gonna hear a lot from
the Broncos or the Ravens until that happens. But for

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the other quarterbacks you mentioned, because now this is gonna
start the run all right, Because we talked about Kyler
Murray Yester, and I said, listen, the Raiders are trading
up for Kyler Murray. There, he's a perfect This is
what Gruden's gonna want. He wants to move on from
Derek Carr. He wants to get his guy, and and
Kyler Murray fits so many ways. They can take him
at the top of the first round. They can move
up to get him because they have too late first

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round picks. He's a typical Gruden. I'm gonna bring him
into the league and we're gonna take over this thing together.
But now he's got to trade Derek Carr and the
philm and the Eagles have to trade Nick Foles because
this whole move of Nick Foles refusing to to opt
in paying the two million dollars is so the Eagles
can franchise him and trade him. But now you have
one team that's all right, We're we're not in the

(01:52:10):
market for a quarterback anymore. So where I thought these
deals are gonna happen closer to the draft, especially the
Derek carrthing that was gonna happen close to the drafts
of Raiders aren't gonna want to reveal their cards about
Kyler Murray so close. In fact, I wouldn't have been
surprised if Derek Carr got traded actually during the draft
or early in the draft. But now this changes things
because now the other teams neither quarterback, not that they

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were in on Joe Flacco, but it's like, okay, well
that's one quarterback and one team down, all right, now
we gotta make sure we get a guy. We gotta
make sure this happened. So now you're gonna see more
of an impetus for these guys to go. And I
still the Giants are gonna wind up trading for Derek Carr.
They need more of a younger, potential franchise guy because
I don't think they're sold on either either Murray or

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Dwayne Haskins in the draft or and look, I don't
think for a second the Eagles are gonna trade Nicholes
to the to the Giants. They're gonna make sure they
get him outside of the division. So but Derek car
is a guy that stands out that it could be
a bidding war for him and turned out great for
the Raiders because Derek Carr is still really good. He
needs a change of scenery. Yeah, help them be able
to move Derek Carr because now other teams are gonna

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move move in for him. But they're not gonna trade
Derek Carr within a division. They're gonna move him out.
So I still think the Giants are in the move
there now, the Eagles there Now, it's okay, you gotta
figure out a place to get me. Folds will be
the next guy to go because he's the guy whose
situation is affected most definitely and most immediately by Joe Flacco.
Because he's a bridge quarterback. All right, Derek Carr is

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a long term answer for a team he's at least
three years. Were buying it on him because he's young.
Flacco is someone who okay, I'm sorry, Folds is someone
who is okay for a couple of years, someone will
sign him. I'm not sold on Folds because he's shown
why he's a backup many times. He's hit it very
briefly for uh short moments in time, but he's been

(01:53:58):
a backup, and there's a reason why he's a backup.
So he's going somewhere. He's kind of like more comparable
to Flackle than he is the car and that he's
only gonna be a couple of years. And so now
a team that's looking for that that's where and now, hey,
I opted out. We got to figure this out now
because you know the free agency is coming and I
want to be able to pick a team. So I

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think Folds is going to be the next guy to go,
and then Derek Carr and the Raiders. They'll make that move,
but it won't be near the draft. It'll be shortly.
It's funny, I do keep hearing. Is Nick Foles going
to be the same Nick Foles and another team? And
and the more that we talk about it, we're speaking
into existence. I like Nick Foles on the jack Wards.
Why it's a team with the dominant run game, dominant defense,

(01:54:39):
similar to the Eagles. You can, Taylor, you can this
is what you do. You still, you go out and
you steal some plays and sets and formations that he
had a lot of success with with the Eagles and
say we can adopt that. They can play that strategy
of football, hard nose, smash mouth football, you know, mixing
a little r po make them happy. And they're a

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team that needs leadership. There's a tough group of guys,
a vetter, some veterans over there that are gonna buy in.
Guess what Nick Foles best attribute is leadership. He knows
how to make people believe he's a selfless, humble guy
and people just teammates just gravitate to him, and that's
why he's had the success that he's had in Philadelphia.
It makes me draw questions of Carson Wentz of his

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leadership because I can tell you one thing, Bro, if
you're playing a point guard position, you're playing a quarterback position.
If you're not a leader, you're not gonna have the
success that you should have. Your career is not gonna
go where it ultimately should go. We're seeing it with
Aaron Rodgers. Uh. We can go get down the list
of point guards Uh in the league have had those struggles.

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But if you do not have leadership qualities, you will
not achieve the highest ranks or the highest success that
you would have had. And there have got been guys
who been jerks who succeeded. Not to say that Aaron
Rodgers isn't a good quarterback, but only one super Bowl
ring and teammates kind of have in their way and
saying what they want about him and not being too
fond of the way he's treated guys in the locker room.

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You see why things have happened the way they've happened
with the Packers. But Nick Foles is a guy that
you're gonna gravitate towards with half the talent with a
Super Bowl chant. Nonetheless, eight seven, seven ninety nine on
Fox The Dan Patrick Show. Here on Fox Sports Radio,
Jason Smith and Ryan Hollins in for Dan Today breaking
down the breaking story now that the Broncos have acquired

(01:56:32):
or agreed to acquire Joe Flacco from the Ravens. Deal
cannot be made permanent or any announcement on it until
the league year begins on March thirteen. Vic Fangio now
has his franchise quarterback at least for the next three years,
because you figure that's gonna be Flacco's window to try
to win with the Denver Broncos. Now, the flip side
of this is now Lamar Jackson, free and clear. He

(01:56:57):
runs the team in Baltimore, and watch out for him
all right. Now, there's not many things you know, like
you know, you went third person a couple of times
earlier this show. There's not many things I've been more
right about this year than in August when I said
this is how things go when you draft a quarterback
in the first round. He's going to play in play soon.
It's easy to say in August, oh, we're gonna take

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it easy and this guy, we're gonna bring him along slow,
like okay, that's great. Then when the football start flying
for real, things change. The demand to see a first
round pick is always so immense, and unless Flacco had
such a lights out season he was, he was always
gonna lose the job at some point. To Lamar Jackson.
Lamar Jackson comes in the middle of the season and

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brings a different energy to the Ravens. Not that he
was coming in and suddenly he was gonna be better,
but sometimes you bring a different energy. And you know,
Bill Parcels would always say that the best thing is
that I can't change a team by by moving out
the left guard. You know, I changed a team by
changing the quarterback. And it's not like you would you
were taking a chance with the guy. This guy you

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brought into the first round and with a limited playbook
because he was thrown right in. He brought all kinds
of new talent schemes. He was running for a hundred
yards a week, throwing for he was really good, and
I know that that people don't want to buy into
him because they think, oh, is he a gimmick quarterback?
Is he gonna be able to run? As long as
the Ravens run their offense the way that Louisville ran,

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There's and they ran at this past year. Lamar Jackson's
going to the Pro Bowl because he can run for
a hundred yards every week. He's not gonna throw for
three hundred, but if he throws for one seventy five,
that's all you need. That's all you need on him
because he's gonna make enough plays with his legs where
he's still gonna be responsible for three hundred yards of offense.
This will cut his prime down because any quarterback that

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runs like Lamar Jackson, you're gonna take more hits. And
when you're not a big guy like Cam Newton, you'll
break down a little bit earlier. But still his prime
is gonna be awesome. And John Harboss saw it and
he had a decision to make and he knows, Okay,
I like being the head coach of the Ravens. I
have to make a decision now with Flacco Lamar Jackson.
If I stick with Flacco, who won me a Super

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Bowl who We've been through the ups and downs together.
I mean, that's really what coaches do. But I'll get
fired because Lamar Jackson is the future. And if Lamar
Jackson doesn't believe in me, he'll tell the coaches, coaching staff,
and he'll tell the front office. They'll know, Yeah, maybe
John Harbor is not the right guy for the Ravens.
He was Flacco's guy and Lamar Jackson needs a new guy.
So he makes that tough decision to say, Okay, sorry, Joe,

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you were great, but I gotta make a move. And
it was like both of them were swimming to shore
for a life raft, and the life raft meant you
get to stay in Baltimore if you're the first one there.
John Harbor got there, and now he's he completely went
to team Lamar and went away from team Flacco. And
you knew Flacco was done. You knew Lamar Jackson was
gonna stay. So now John Harbo has made himself part

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of the future because he committed to him. And you
saw the playoff run. Even though he played awful for
three and a half quarters, he almost brought him all
the way back against the Charges in the playoffs. I mean,
that was insane, you know, the way he played so
bad for three and a half quarters like a Lamar
our Jackson. This is his big introductory time to the
NFL and here's where he needs to get no, no, no.
Then he almost brings them all the way back. And
now going into this season, there's a new optimism. Hope

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they moved on from Joe Flacco. And trust me, Lamar Jackson,
I'll give you a Bowl prediction. He'll be in the
Pro Bowl this year. He'll be one of the Pro
Bowl quarterbacks in the a f C. He has that
kind of skill set, you know, you know it's funny
and I'm gonna keep harping back to it. Man. This
leadership is such a big thing because they're just there.
There's something that you can't explain about getting your offensive

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line to block for you. Something you can't explain about
having your defense buy in and say, you know, Lamar,
we got your back. Because on the other side of
the ball, they know he's committed to them. And every
time I watched this kid have an interview, it was
never about what he did. He's always I just did
my job. I did what I was supposed to do
with my guys, I'm giving us a chance to win.

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I'm giving my team an opportunity to be successful. And
that's what helped Lamar Jackson be Lamar Jackson. Obviously we
can pick his game apart he can't throw, he can't
make multiple reads. All you gotta do is run the ball.
If you're gonna win, you're not scoring over twenty points.
It's an ugly style of football in which in today

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I'd have told you you can't make the playoffs playing
like that. Defense wins in the NFL. Are you kidding me?
But his leadership qualities have prevailed, and I gotta give
my hats off the hardball. He wouldn't have had that
success if from day one he was just the starting quarterback.
If day one they said, you know a Flacco, we
dropped this kid in the first round. You're on the bench.

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Because Lamar Jackson got to see what the NFL is
got to play. A minimum numberous snaps came in and
some some wildcats situations, some special situations. He gotta feel
for the game. And then when this opportunity was set,
he was already knowing what he should have expected. Okay,
and when he jumped in there. He did well, he
didn't extremely well. So um, as I watched those plays,

(02:01:59):
as I watched what he's done, I can't help but
feel the same way that you feel um about the
success that he's going to have, just because his leadership qualities. Man,
and there's nothing to be said about like it. It's hard,
like we can't put it on a piece of paper.
When you want to play for a quarterback or you
want to play for a guy, you just believe, like Rondo,
he's the guy. I feel that way about. He can.

(02:02:20):
Rondo can shoot a lick. But guess what, that's the
first jumper of his career when the game winner he
hit against the Celtics. I'll run through a wall for him.
I'll run through a wall for Rondo today. The brick
Wally hits with his jumpers, you run through. We'll run
through that brick Wally jumpers anytime. You know. The other
thing that gets me about Lamar Jackson, this gets into
our conversation about Kyler Murray that we've had the last

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couple of days, is that Lamar Jackson showed that, Okay,
you can kind of blow up your team in the
middle of the season and go to a quarterback whose
skill set is completely different from your incumbent and play
pretty well. You know that this whole. Sometimes mentally you
get an idea of something that just sounds so daunting
that you know you don't want to do it. But

(02:03:01):
then you go do it. You realize, Okay, it's not
so bad. Like like if you have to go to
the d m V for something, I gotta go stand
in line. It's gonna be three hours, gonna take the
driver's test. If I fail the first time, I'm gonna
be there again another twenty minutes. And to take that,
I got a carve out like five. I'm oh my god.
So mentally daunting, you push it off something like that.
Then you wind up getting there and like, oh, the
line wasn't that bad. I wind up being on the

(02:03:22):
phone with a friend for it. I got right. Oh,
I passed the test the first time. Oh, it really
wasn't that bad. That's so daunting. Sometimes I think you
draft Kyler Murray. You have to change your entire offense
for him. You gotta change everything for him. How are
you gonna do? You gotta change philosophies, you gotta change
coordinan you's gotta change everything. Well, Lamar Jackson showed us
you really don't. You can go from a guy who

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is about as immobile as anybody and Joe Flacco and
change Lamar Jackson, who may be the fast, most electrifying
quarterback in the game, and you realize, oh, it actually worked. Okay,
that was I built it up in my mind. It
was so much more difficult than I thought it was
gonna be. But that's the reality with Kyler Murray too.
I need to know what type of leader he is.
I need to know who I need to know who

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he is. I know he's talented, I know he's fast,
I know he can throw. Obviously, we know he's short,
But is he right, very short compared to you your
seven one? No, No, he's of the world is shorter
than you know. He's like short, short, short, short, Yeah yeah, yeah.
But if you were incredibly fast you can throw about

(02:04:25):
a hundred miles per hour, that's you. You're Kyler Murray.
Give you a full head of hair. Okay, sound that
part of the best, all right. Nonetheless, I gotta see
what type of leave this kid is. Is he the
guy that players want to play for? Do they gravitate
towards him. Do guys believe in Kyler Murray? If Kyler

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Murray is that guy, I'm jumping all over with the
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On Fox were breaking down the breaking news le Broncos

(02:05:05):
acquiring Joe Flacco from the Baltimore Ravens. This according to
ESPNS Adam Schefter. Some more details of this trade are
trickling in. We'll have them for you coming up next
right here, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Radio, Dan Patrick Show,
Jason Smith, Ryan Hollins in for Dan Patrick, My show

(02:05:28):
heard nights here on Fox. Got Ryan doing the Clippers
game tonight. Getting set to head out to the All
Star weekend in the NBA, where all anybody's gonna be
talking about is Joe Flacco to the Broncos, Flacco to
the Broncos, Flacco to the Internet. Here, you want to
take a look at Twitter right now. You are ready

(02:05:49):
for this. This is this is this is fun of
all the top trends in the United States, the top
ten trends. The only thing that is trending bisarides this
trade right because Flacco is trending, Broncos is trending, Elway
is trending, Keenan is trending, Lamar Jackson is trending. The
only thing trending besides that is Frozen two and Elsa

(02:06:15):
because the trailer for Frozen two was released earlier today.
And if I can go Chris Berman and t J
the Ravens on the day the Frozen two trailer is released,
let Joe Flecco go to the Denver Broncos d J. Listen.
You gotta understand how big Frozen is Frozen. Yea, My

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daughter was the perfect age when Frozen came out. She
was five. She was Elsa. She was Elsa for Halloween.
She would go to bed at night and say to me, Dad,
I wish Elsa was real, And my heart broke because
you know, she knew she wasn't real, but she wanted
Elsa to come on. She got powers with ice and everything.
It's awesome. Loved Elsa loved let it Go. It Go

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would come on. We would play the music and she
would do the dance to it, just like Elsa did
in the Oh My God. I mean really, yes, Joe
Flacco is big, and for us, it's biggest, But Frozen
two is like, okay, you know I've heard have your
Joe Flacco. That's nice? That is it? Like, I don't
know what it is about this? So every kid sings
that song. Every kid for we're singing it, I mean
literally like on repeat, yeah, buying the instrumental like the karaoga.

(02:07:26):
I mean that can't like let it go. It was read.
I mean the boys, the girls. It didn't matter to
the parents. I mean it was I mean this Frozen two.
I mean, I mean Frozen to electric boogaloo. I mean
I didn't understand it. I mean the kids would sing
it time and time, like what I don't. The thing

(02:07:50):
is about Frozen is that the movie itself is really
not very good, all right, That a lot of stuff
that goes unexplained in the movies. But the songs are
so good you're like, oh my god, this is awesome,
Like like like Moanna, which came out. Moana was awesome.
The songs. I was kind of like, well, Miranda, come on,

(02:08:10):
you gotta give me something A little bit more than that.
So it's like Disney movies Falling one or two. Get
either the movie is just and the songs are great.
But the movie was and the songs are awesome. Yeah,
I would. I didn't understand it. I mean, it's you.
You literally heard it so much the first time, did
you hear it? I was upset, I'm like, what do
you guys? Listen? And then I heard it so much

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and before you know it, you start singing. Go. So
it's Frozen and Flacco, which are the two biggest topics
in the country right now by far. The breaking news.
We brought you to it a few moments ago. The
Broncos and Ravens have agreed to a trade that would
send Joe Flacco to the Broncos in exchange for what

(02:08:53):
is being reported by Ian Rapport on NFL Network, a
mid round pick. Now, this is not going to be
official until the new league year begins on March thirteenth.
We don't know what round, but it looks like a
mid round pick, which is usually around four, three, four
or five. I'd be surprised it was a three. I'm
thinking four or five. But again, what we're hearing is

(02:09:14):
a mid round pick. Other details on this that are
just coming in. The talks between the Broncos and the
Ravens began on Monday and they culminated very early this morning.
So this wasn't something that's been in the works for
a long time. This was John Elway, you know, woke
up Monday and said, all right, we need a quarterback.
Let's go do it and talk to the Broncos, and

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this is what happened. Now. I always feel that this
is kind of a weird thing because I feel like
if I'm a GM and I need a quarterback and
someone says, hey, uh, Joe Flacco. You guys want Joe Flacco. Yeah,
we love I would say, yeah, fourth round pick, and
I'd be able to make that trade in a second.
I meanwhile, all the haggling stuff that goes back and forth,
and it's gonna be like a fourth or fifth round pick. Now,

(02:09:54):
would it be great to hold on to a fourth
round pick instead of a fifth round pick? Yeah, but
you're still shooting darts at that point. You're still saying, Okay,
we're gonna get a guy here we're hoping turns into
somebody whatever. But I feel like, you know, I could
have been the GM of the Broncos if and I
could have called said, yeah, I want Flak, will give
you a fourth round pick, and they had to call
me her back and said, yeah, sure, we'll do it.
I mean, I could have got that deal done. I
could have been a GM. I could be that guy.

(02:10:17):
You are kind of that guy could have been kind
of right, because I mean there's a lot that goes
into you know, it's funny when you talk about GMS
in front office personnel, it's it's that hard, But sometimes
it's really not that hard. You know, if you can
evaluate talent, either either you got it or you don't.
And sometimes you see some hair brains games go on,

(02:10:40):
and you know when you mess up, all you do
just blame the player. So he couldn't figure it out.
He didn't work out, It didn't work out. But when
it comes to sports, there's so much money swirling and
the and the fact that you're you're literally placing someone's
future on a guy who could either be greater or
be horrible. And depending on how Joe Flacco is, John

(02:11:03):
Elways gonna be graded. You know, Peyton Manning was pretty
much a no brainer. He chose the organization himself and
then sometimes you gotta go and do work. And as
far as punching numbers are talking about future looking at
Surley Caps, you have experts that do that. But as
a GM, you step in it, you make the call.
And now Denver Bronco fans can actually cheer Joe flaccomans

(02:11:24):
that are remembering him for the uh the uh mile
high miracle that's seventy yard touchdown pass and the ANFC
champion of game that prevented the Broncos from going to
the Super Bowl. But this is a case. Look, I
love this move on so many cases, on so many levels.
Because they needed a quarterback, they couldn't afford to go
to the draft. They have a team that's built ready
to win now that really good rushing attack, that have
a really good defense, and Flacco clearly still has a

(02:11:46):
lot of time left, got a lot of tread left
on the tires. Not only that, but you have a
first time head coach and Vic Fangio who really is
gonna be the glorified defensive coordinator and he can't bring
in an up and coming guy that he's got a room.
He needs somebody to come and really take charge. And
he's familiar with him from coaching a year with him
in Baltimore. So bringing Joe Flacco was like, Okay, now

(02:12:07):
the office is gonna be taken care of. You know,
I got everything I need. I got. I got a
veteran quarterback who knows much more about things, and I
can concentrate on the defense and be like the CEO
of the offense. And this this works on the way
the Broncos are structured on so many different levels. Look
out for Courtland Sutton. Um. He's a guy similar to
Calvin Johnson, Antoine bolt An, KWin Bolton, you know that

(02:12:29):
played for Flacco, where he's kind of a ball receiver
and Flack has done well with those type of guys.
Look at you giving out fantasy advice already. What Courtland
Sutton is your sleeper for next day? Hey man, I
am a big fantasy football guy. I am a big fan,
probably too big. Jason Smith, Ryan Hollins, Fox Sports Radio
coming up next, more on the big Flacco trade. This

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