July 10, 2024 • 37 mins
Mike Harmon and Rich Ohrnberger weigh in on Joe Burrow’s comments on an 18 game NFL season. Oklahoma State head coach Mike Gundy elaborated on why he didn't suspend Ollie Gordon despite his recent DUI arrest. And the guys celebrate the 20th anniversary of the original 'Anchorman' debuting in theaters.
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where you find him in the Twitter verse. What's going on, buddy?
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Things are good, dude. You know we're we're doing the
summer thing. The Ormburger household was a little restless, so
we went out to Hawaii for a week. We did that,
We got an East coast travel planned, and then, like
everybody else across the country, we do lock it in
for the preseason and we we wait by the hearth
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for the NFL season to come.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
That's you got the hearth in very early, nicely, agun.
That's right. Yeah, it's all our vocabulary words. Generally, what
you and I do is we try to stack up
our five dollars words to justify me the cost of
Northwestern and you giving up your body and sacrificing for
Penn State. That's right, That's right. So that's where we're at.
A plenty of NFL, NBA and chaos across our sporting
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lot of you know, Euro twenty twenty twenty four. We
(02:17):
just had the Copa America game just went final with
Argentina and a win, and Messi finally scores a goal.
You know, I did this a little with Arnie Spanier,
but you know, you're a man who loves, you know,
all sporting events, especially when you're trying to find some
betting angles for the shows on the weekend as well
as I went and took in some Gaelic football.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
I was in Ireland two weeks ago, so you know,
a little bit of chaos and they actually had a
situation whereby they were attending to an injured player on
the field and played continued. It's one of the greatest
things I've ever seen.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
It's amazing how how different areas of the country root
on their sports. Like the first time I experienced soccer
stateside was at a New England revs. Game the Revolution,
who played at Jiled Stadium, sharing the field that we
played on when I was with the Patriots, and it
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was sparsely attended, not a lot of people around, you know,
so sit but standing field side and watching these athletes,
you know, a whole new appreciation for the sport. Then
after that time, I probably didn't see a live soccer
event until the inaugural LAFC season, and much like you,
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just the pomp and circumstance around soccer. Now, I never
experienced it in Europe. I've never been to Ireland as
a matter of fact. But in the stands during this
LAFC game, they had a giant bass drum they were
banging on, they were setting off smoke bombs everywhere. It
was like nothing I had ever seen. And I was
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paying more attention to the crowd than it was the
actual pitch or field or whatever they call it.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
It was unbelievable, it was.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
I mean, it's it's just a completely different environment than
watching an American football game.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Any any piss bags or batteries in the crowd As.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
A matter of fact, I didn't see any piss bags.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
I saw no batteries.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
I did see a bald man with his shirt off
get more and more inebriated until he fell asleep on
top of the woman standing in front of him. Okay,
he was dragged out of there, but it was But
other than that, yeah, nothing out of the norm.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
No, that's some next level stuff. I mean, for all
for all of the you know, excitation and a fifty
thousand person crowd for this for this matchup that I
was watching Galway and Dublin, really not a lot in
the crowd, do you know, a lot of positivity and
a lot of kind of quiet observation of what was
going on. A lot of screaming and chaos. I mean
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you had more of that down in the tunnel trying
to get towards the beer and the concession stands because
there was nothing actually in the state him two thirty
five minute halfs very fast moving, but you know, the
level of violence was immense, which was great on the pitch,
I should say, so you know, it just kept the
line moving. So it was a nice experience there overseas,
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and it's good to be back in the throes of
all of the chaos. Ahead of the beginning of training camp,
we got the Hard Knocks story of all stories because
we all want to challenge our athleticism, so we'll do that.
Because there is off season Hard Knocks. We're less than
a month away from the Bears being featured, and right now,
if you were to call it a stock, I think
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it would be overweighted with the number of people that
have jumped on board the Bear's bandwagon. But we'll get
into that a little more in earnest as we go on,
as I mentioned, watching a lot of Copa America and
the Euro twenty twenty four, and here here's just a
great stat. As we get jumping off, we've got the
Mike Gundy, what the hell are you doing? Quote of
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the day coming up in about fifteen minutes. But Messi
scored his first goal of the tournament tonight. In two
thousand and seven, he scored his first career goal at
Copa America. Earlier, Spain beat France to advance and Bape
had a chance in the eighty fifth minute, defender on
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his heel and he ended up sailing it about twenty
feet over the crossbar. So failed by one of the
big names. But a guy named Jamal who's sixteen years old.
Rich sixteen years old, he scores his first Euros goal. Yeah,
at this time that Messi was scoring his first career
goal at Copa America, Jamal was being born. So there
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you go.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
Crazy.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
It's a crazy world that we're living in because we're
talking about forty year old Lebron James, his kid coming
into the league and all of that fun stuff. As
we go on. But we're gonna get started with Joe
Burrow back in the news saying he wants all the smoke,
he wants all the attention, because, hey, you forgot about me,
right he's with M and M dropping his new album
(07:03):
on Friday. It's only appropriate, right, forgot about Dre. Same
thing here, Joe Burrow saying, Hey, I'm gonna give people
something to talk about. Channeling a little what is that
early nineties Bonnie ray it? Yeah, while he's at it,
how about that leaving no musical stone in pop culture
reference on turned But he's got a couple of things.
He was on the Pardon My Take podcast and he
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started talking about the schedule and the inevitability of the
eighteen game coming to this to the NFL. Right, we've
got that big direct TV lawsuit thing going on that's
gonna cost him a lot of money, and you know,
really kind of funny how it equates to the amount
of money that was gonna be split nationally from the
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revenue of the National Football League. It's really crazy how
that works in terms of penalties and all that fun
stuff when you parse it out. But he's saying, hey,
if we're gonna do an eighteenth game, then we wanted
a second and he's already mapped it out. How about
a buy in week thirteen to where you know, hey,
we'll do the Pro Bowl there, which is kind of
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silly because the Pro Bowl in the middle of season.
Who the hell's participating unless you're gonna go shuit up
Barry Sanders a bunch of legends.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
But Mike, nobody, nobody is participating in the Pro Bowl
right now. It's a two hand touch football game. It's
a glorified you know, attendance. Roll call, No, that's it.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Show up, wave your little cab, let your sponsor money,
sign a couple of autographs, take a couple of pictures,
and run off the field. So like the whole concept
at this point, it's like hard knocks for me as well.
It's like, I guess it's a necessity for the job
that I've got to pay attention to it to a degree.
But if it went away, I don't think i'd miss it.
(08:47):
Not a lot of people in your life, right they go,
oh you remember that guy? Yeah, I guess, Okay, cool,
Moving on, same thing here, the Pro Bowl. Look, a
lot of folks still want to watch and bet on it,
but moving it into season. I mean, you want to
talk about zero participation? Are you gonna play it as
a video game?
Speaker 4 (09:06):
I waffle back and forth. I really do like you know,
so the Pro Bowl it listen. I do not get
much enjoyment out of the Pro Bowl, and frankly, I
really never did when I was growing up. I was
more of a basketball All Star Game fan. I didn't
really love baseball growing up. That was a taste I
acquired as an adult. Actually, that's when I fell in
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love with baseball as a fan and with football. The
Pro Bowl it just sort of seemed silly, like I
don't know why, even as a kid, like I was like,
what is this game for? And the answer to that
question was, well, for bragging rights, I guess it.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Just kind of like take care of the sponsors, yeah,
and showcase Hawaii and take their tourism off, you know,
advisory board dollars, right.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
And the players they they clearly did not want to
be there, you know. The I don't mean that because
they do want to win Pro Bowls. They want to
have their names attached to that recognition because, like you
just said, that is a great way to market yourself. Obviously,
when your legacy is being totaled after your career is over.
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If you're so lucky to be considered for all Hall
of Fame bid there are voters who care how many
times you were named to these lists. And I'm not
exactly sure why, because these lists are subjective anyways, So
if you are voting on a Hall of Fame candidacy,
why you would lean on other people to advocate for
players instead of doing your own advocacy is ridiculous to me.
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But that's a different, you know, debate for a different day.
But yeah, in terms of like having a mid season
Pro Bowl break like the NBA does, like we're coming
up on in Major League Baseball, I don't think I
would be tremendously opposed. You know, if we expand the
season to eighteen games, I do think a second bye
week would be necessary.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Anyways, Wait, that roster expansion or two things that you
definitely have to look.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
At, you know, and then the other thing you'd have
to look at in terms of contracts, Like you know,
now you go in the span of potentially six years,
ten years, whoever, you know, whatever it is, you expand
by two games. You know, it's almost like imagine your
boss walking into your office and saying, hey, buddy, you're
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doing a great job around here. We're making tremendous amounts
of money, and incrementally your salary is going to increase.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
However, we're gonna have you.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Work an extra hour and twenty minutes every single day.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
And you say, oh, okay, well I'll be paid for that, right, No, no, no, no,
you're not going to be paid for that.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Wait, so I gotta work instead of eight hour days,
I gotta work nine hour, twenty minute days, and I'm
not going to be paid anything more. Yeah, no, no, no,
you're not gonna get paid anymore. And as a matter
of fact, we're thinking about increasing that in a couple
of years, and you're not gonna get a single dime
more upfront by comparison to how much more you're working.
You're just gonna have to deal with those incremental raises, uh,
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every year, just like you always had. Well, what what
sense does that make?
Speaker 5 (12:14):
Yeah? I don't think it'll we'll ever get there.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Where these these uh, these these contracts, these current NFL contracts.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Will ever be recalibrated when they add games.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Because I'm I'm imagining you would have to have a
labor stoppage in order for the owners to you know,
bend the neeed to the players in that way. But
you get into this this discussion, this debate about fairness,
about player safety, about the tradeoff. You know, yeah, the
NFL is going to make a lot more money and
ipso facto, the players are gonna have a larger cut
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of the broadcast revenue, but they're not going to get
it immediately, just like they didn't win they expanded the
league to seventeen game seasons.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Yeah, that's the thing, rich, right is And and you
know this from therr as working in the league and
as a player, how much information flows through a locker
room or doesn't through your player representative? Right? Some are good,
some are really great at it, and some it's kind
of like, all right, well here's the link, get after it,
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and there's not a lot of discussion. And as a
player's association, and look, I've been vilified many a time
by folks I've done shows with and maybe you'll hate
me too. Generally they go for the lowest hanging fruit
stand in right, because you have such a great, large
gradient and so many different slices. You know, you and
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I love to cook, so, right, the stuff that's well
done on the edges versus a little pinker and rare
in the middle. Right, if you've got a nice roast
going on, in terms of your cook time and what
you need to do with it, it's the same thing with
the players that now making guys actually meet. So maybe
not the best analogy, but for the purposes of this,
you know, it's a slab of beef. So it's the
idea of, Hey, the quarterbacks are up here. Concerns at
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fifty million dollars a year are a lot different than
most of the roster, which are just trying to hang
on and get another check in another year towards vesting,
towards retirement benefits and whatever else. Right, So when it's
being parsed out of all, right, here's everything we got
to fight about. You know, you've got different stratas of
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where people's concerns are really pressing, right, And the big
guy and the forty million dollars a year player doesn't
always look out for the interest of the guys on
the back end of the roster that are what eighty
percent of the roster, right, in terms of how much
you know we're talking about guys and what they make
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and their longevity, right, the average career being a shade
over three years, and that includes a very long tail
of guys with a cup of coffee.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
It's amazing.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
How if you pay the massive majority of players better
you know, who make up like you said that eighty
percent of players who are making in that minimum range,
you're going to swing the vote in your favor.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
If you're the owners. They figured that out years ago.
They're going to keep banging that drum.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
And as a result, you know, if they do expand
the league to eighteen game regular seasons, which I imagine
they will, well it's not going to change anything contract wise,
but I do think there will be roster expansion. Like
you mentioned, I do think an additional bye week is
a necessity, and there will be probably some other accommodations
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made along the way. And to be perfectly honest with you,
from a fan perspective, as long as it.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
Doesn't dilute the product, as.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Long as it still remains an urgent regular season, I'm
not gonna mind.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
In fact, the more football the better, No, a hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
The hard part to it is where they have gotten
concession to pass is where they've you know, hey, we're
going to have fewer practices, shorter this. So the game
actually does suffer in some respects, at least a lot
of times in the early September outings that we see
going for plenty more on this and others. Rich Hornberger,
our esteemed colleague here at Fox Sports Radio. At Hornberger
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sort it all out here next. He's Rich. I'm Mike.
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in the chair today with us, got our guys Alex
Tye Shir, Justin Frossberg and Brian Finley up on the
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updates today. One of the stories that hit the headlines today, Rich,
I had to read it a couple of times, and
then when the audio surfaced, well you played it a
couple of times to say is this AI generated or
is this for real? Yea, my Gundy Oklahoma state coach.
Remember once upon a time, I'm a man, I'm forty.
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You know he had a well, a bit of a
controversial statement would be well, perhaps an understatement of it
Oli Gordon the second he had Big twelve Media Days
going on on June thirtieth, Tulsa suspicion of a dui.
He will not miss game time, according to Gundhy, for it,
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he blew a point one zero, so narrowly over the
legal limit. Right now, we get into semantics, and after
looking it up the metric, well, Gundhi decided to be
super sleuth. Yeah, so obviously at Il and all that
talking about money to be made, Gandy would go on
to say the punishment would be, I don't know, give
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him fifty carries. He later tried to walk this back
after saying, you know, it's a decision I've probably made
a thousand times. Hang a star on that one quote.
My intended point today at Big twelve Media Days was
that we are all guilty of making bad decisions. It
was not of reference to something specific. He says he
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considers the matter settled, but trying to walk back the
statement of probably done that a thousand times. You know
I getting away with that one, Mike Gandy.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
Yeah, and right.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Now you've got a lot of folks targeted because we
are in that that quiet time right where we look
for those stories and and coaches and administrators from colleges,
high schools all the way up through the pros. They
don't want their phone to ring. We had that at
the accident over the weekend, killing three young men, a
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draft pick this year and his high school teammates. All
of that that we're talking about, you know, that time
of year where the worst comes out, and from Mike
Gundhy to make light of it with a flippant remark,
I mean, you're you're talking about a guy that is
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going to be watched at every turn going forward.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
So I'm thirty eight years old.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
When I was in high school, a show debuted on
Comedy Central called Chappelle's Show, and it was Dave Chappelle,
who's a stand up comic and you know, oftentimes is
considered controversial for things he says and.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
Writes jokes about.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
But it was widely regarded as one of the funniest
sketch shows around.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
No question about it. Still quoted oftentimes, or maybe a
little less in the hallways than it used to be.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
Well yeah, well, I'm I'm going to quote it right now.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Sometimes keeping it real goes wrong, and this is a
sterling example of when keeping it real goes wrong, because
that was one of the sketches they did, and it
was those intrusive thoughts that you know, they're supposed to
be inside thoughts.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
They're supposed to be things that maybe even take with
you to the grave.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Mike Gundhy, you're not to say all of the things
that the little Mike Gundy voice inside of your head
says to you. Some of those things you just they
they just only those those are yours, Those are all
for you. And you don't tell a single person.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
Now. Am I advocating for anybody drinking and driving.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Obviously not. Do I think it's smart that he's made
that decision a thousand times in the past. Obviously not.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
But when you are the head football coach.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Or when you are the CEO, or you're the president
of the United States, or you hold a high ranking
position in some you know, government branch or military or
what have you, you have to have better sense than
to keep it that real.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
And listen, this is coming from somebody.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Who hates inauthenticity, Like I really I dislike it when
I feel like I'm being lied to. Sure, but you
can not keep it that real and also be authentic
and honest like like he could have addressed this by saying, listen,
my players a young man, and as we all know,
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young men sometimes make mistakes. He's shown contrition. We're upset
about this. He's upset about this, and we're gonna work
through it with him because we believe in him as
a person and we see the light at the other
end of the tunnel already, and we know he's going
to put in the work to improve his situation.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
And that's where you leave it.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
And guess what, you're not lying to anybody, but you
know what, you're not admitting to committing a crime a
thousand times over time of your player.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
But one of the crimes that, let's face it, you
know in the news and when we go through it
that it's so avoidable, right, there's a million services and.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
That's a yes, right by which these.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Days you know a quick you know, three clicks of
you on your phone and you're done. Look, if he
can do legal stuff, I can tell you how to
get an app and get the app and call for
a ride to come get you where you need to go.
Not to mention that in a lot of circumstances, certainly
at the pro level, you've got people on staff that
that's part of their job, right for your well being
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as a player. And I'm guessing more and more colleges implementing,
especially in this new day and age of nil and
other benefits that players are receiving. That means there's also
more people from the administrative side to make sure that
everybody is protected, everybody's mind and their p's and q's
and things of this nature.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
And see that that is the whole story right there.
So the two biggest things about this story that stick
out the most to me is student athletes are going
to be held to a much higher standard than they
ever have before because it's less emphasis on student and
more emphasis on athlete now that they're being paid like
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professionals at the collegiate level. And the more and more
those dollar bills expand and the more sourced reports about
how much these star players are getting paid at all
these different universities, there's going to be a lot less
interest in giving these giving excuses.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Well, yeah, you're not a can anymore.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
Yeah, exactly right, you're a professional.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
And by the way, there are eighteen year olds who
are across the world from their families fighting for this
country that was the argument I always made back in
the Mike Williams, Maurice Colerett and whatever else, Like, if
some team wants to take a shot on a guy,
why do we protect the teams from themselves? And then
the other part of this is, so yeah, like you said,
the accountability is going to be more so on the
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players than ever before.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
Nobody can cry poverty.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Hey, you know I didn't have any money in my
account to call an uber. It's like, oh, yeah, I
didn't have any money in your account after getting the
couple hundred thousand dollars in door deal from the car
dealership or from Jimmy Johns, or from you know, whatever
it may be. And then you know, let's let's also
include in this nightmare of a situation for this collegiate program,
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the fact that Mike Gundhy, who's supposed to be the
liaison between your players in the general public, stepping in
it so royally, Like, I mean, he took a bad
situation and he made it several magnitudes.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Worse, million times worse.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
It's insane.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
So it's like, the accountability is going to be more
so higher and higher on the player side for making
these dumb decisions because they're going to be treated more
like professionals than like amateurs, more so than ever before.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
And then on top of it.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
You're going to have to have coaches smart enough not
to make the bad thing worse when the media comes
sniffing around saying, hey.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
What's going on? Why was your player in a drunk
tank with the Dale last night?
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Oh he's not doing anything I wouldn't do. Wait what,
that's how you're handling this, Mike, right, I mean what
is going on?
Speaker 5 (26:07):
Right?
Speaker 3 (26:07):
You're saying I've done this a million times and look
and by the grace of God, I'm here. Tada. No,
that's not the way this works.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
It's an abhorrent thing to it to admit to. And
look again, many people across our globe, right we're global
here on the iHeartRadio app can say, Okay, I've done
that before, or maybe you know, I had a scary situation,
maybe I survived a terrible situation, whatever, you know somewhere
on that continuum. But for for Gundhy to kind of
(26:37):
throw out the thousand times like to your point, you're
the CEO of this corporation, right, talk about the learning
talk about whatever measures he's got to do in the community,
you know, and as an organization, we can't stand like
because he wasn't contacted. This isn't a phone call twenty
minutes after the incident to where you've got to respond
(26:57):
to something.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
Come on, who has it done? Yeah, Gundy, Gundy wasn't. Yeah,
this wasn't. He was dragged out of bed, shaken, awake
and foisted in front of a camera fifteen minutes after
finding out the news.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
You're absolutely right.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
Yeah, let me ask you this question because I haven't
seen the video yet. I just heard the audio that
we played here. Did he did he put his mullet
on backwards? Did he have the party in the front
and the business in the back? Maybe that was the problem.
It okay, I understood.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
I'm just making sure, you know, because sometimes you know,
like you know, sometimes.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
The party speaks first and then you know, the business
side it gets like, you know, you got to make.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
Sure you wear those mullets, so you got to keep
them on straight. Of course.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
It's it's funny you say that, because we'll we'll talk
about Mullet Night as a as an event as we
go forward, because you do have minor League teams that
celebrate the mullet like no other and every year they
get after it the Blue Wahoo's So there you go.
It's uh, you ever try that look? It's a look
(27:58):
because it's coming back a little bit, which I really
got a frightening.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
I was a kid and I had a buddy at
school who wore a mullet.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
His name was Glenn and Glenn.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
Dude, Glenn, if you're still around, buddy, you know who
I'm talking about.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
We're in miss super wow.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
If you're still around, you went that. That went that far?
Wellst not if you're listening. So what you're saying is
the mullet was one of many bad decisions. Yeah, you're
privy to in the life of Glenn.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
Well, me and Glenn and missoulet second grade class we did.
We did some crazy stuff thousands of times. So it's
you know, who knows where he's at in life now.
But but but I remember he had this mullet. I
mean it was sharp, man. His parents did it right,
and uh, and I went. I went to the Lemon
Tree barber shop in Long Island, New York with my mom.
It was haircut day. All three of us were going
(28:46):
to get in the chair. And when it was my turn,
I said, I want to shorten the sides. I want
a short on top and I want a long in
the back. And my mom, I mean when I say
she dove in the way of the scissors like she
was like she was secret service protecting a high ranking delegate.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
It was unbelievable. She was like, absolutely not not in
my household.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
So no, the closest I ever got was was, you know,
maybe maybe two feet away from having the first of
my golden locks, uh trimmed at a barber shop.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
But yeah, never never wore a mullet.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Now that's funny as hell. Frostburg's admitting that he hat
he wore one for a sum full summer rich dude, Yeah,
I mean, was it this summer shops?
Speaker 4 (29:31):
I mean, honestly, wait, look, and I know you spoke before.
I mean, what was it was? It just was the phone.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Tracking glorious mode.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
Yeah, yeah, I understand.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
I seen the pictures.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
No, I was scared, bring him in, bring him in? Well, yeah,
what about you? I mean the twer ty shirt.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
I mean, I mean he's got a glorious head of hair.
Let us right now, Yeah, he's and he's rocking a
mustag like Sash too.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
I haven't.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
He's gone and watched all A. I think he went
and saw Maxine and he was inspired. I'm scared he's
gonna pull me over.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
I think Ty should have sent me a selfie immediately.
I am a fan of a good mustage.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
This is some next level stuff. I mean the hair
is flowing, slick back a little bit, and then he's
got the mustache going.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
Yeah. Yeah, that's a handsome boy.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Too powerful and attractive men, There's no question about it.
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Speaker 3 (31:38):
Hey, welcome back in Fox Sports, a Radio Jason Smith's
Show with me Mike Harmon, Rich Hornberger in for Jason Smith. Tonight.
Our all star crack team is assembled. And I saw
notice earlier today in my socials. Rich. You know how
much I love going to the movies and celebrating movies,
(31:59):
and we bring pop culture into the show all the time.
You and I randomly quoting like you know little Kid's
lines back and forth. I mean, that's just what we do.
And I hope I never grow up. It's one of
those songs, right, I hope you never grow up, hope
you stay this little It's a whole Taylor Swift thing.
I'm kind of that same thing. But I saw that
(32:20):
Christina Applegate posted that in her latest episode of her
podcast that she had Will Ferrell stop by and they
started talking about Anchorman, which was officially released twenty years
ago today. Yeah, and you know, really it really yawged
(32:41):
my memory when we started talking about Ty Shirt, his
magnificent hair and his mustache, because you know, don't touch
the hair or face. That's part of the fight rules.
But Will Ferrell also talked about how when they first
wrote it and screened it, the ending had to be
completely he done and reshot because it tested terribly.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
Oh Mike.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Basically, they had Christina Applegate's character kidnapped and then they
had to go and save her and this whole thing,
and it tested terribly with the audience that was part
of the podcast. You could find it iHeartRadio and app
and wherever you get your podcasts. It's an amazing story,
just going oh yeah, everybody hated it. You know, you're
(33:24):
hoping for a big test r. I'd score from one
to one hundred. He goes, we're at about a fifty.
Speaker 5 (33:29):
That's insane.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
So fifty percent of people walked away hating the ending
of the movie. What's impressive, though, is how well received
it was, how quotable it is, and how much it
stands up because even still now, when when you find
a young group of guys or girls who haven't been
exposed to the movie yet and you show it to them,
(33:53):
man oh man, like, there are some belly laugh scenes
in there, and I've done that a couple of times.
The privilege of of of of debuting that movie a
couple of times to a couple of different groups of people,
and it was it was fun, man, Like, you know,
that movie holds up Talla Dagan Knights hold up. Will
(34:15):
Ferrell has had a couple of hits and and a
couple of them around sports that I think were even underappreciated,
like kicking and screaming.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
I loved with my brothers stepbrothers. We watch it at
every turn. Kicking and screaming, grossly underrated film. ROAs Mike
Dicktt was good Dick. It was great in it. Robert Duvall,
and of course any movie that includes Rachel Harris.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
I'm gonna punch you in the over a.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
Yeah, he really will, and he really will, by the way,
Tysher at the show break, he sent me a picture
of his beautiful mustache, his flowing locks, and also he
was holding his snake.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
And that's that is not in you Ida.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
He would like, you can't say that until after ten
o'clock local time. No, no, no, no, save Harvard kind of quotes.
Speaker 5 (35:01):
It was. It was.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
It was an immature albino Burmese python mouth.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
No no, ron, I do not have the poop mouth.
I do not know.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
I would you run and I won't read anything on
the prompter. I'm I'm I'm stating facts I was sent.
I mean, it's a beautiful steak too. It looks it resembles,
it resembles the the Britney Spears sneak.
Speaker 5 (35:29):
You remember during the famous.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
When she was singing I'm a slave for you and
dancing around with the snake weet. I'm you know she's
also sworn off all men to now this guy's never
dating again.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
Maybe ten miles north to the San Fernando Valley, Well.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
No, milk was a bad idea.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
We go down the road.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Yeah, it's it's all these these quotables. I mean, the
sequel then came came out. I found out I was
gonna change my role here at Fox Sports Radio as
I answered a voicemail coming out of Seeing Anchorman two.
So it's it's a franchise that has great meaning in
my life and in highly quotable. I mean, how many
(36:11):
times do we talk about punting Baxter? Oh, you wrecked?
Speaker 2 (36:14):
What?
Speaker 3 (36:14):
I love watching I'm gonna do right now his burritos
tou n.
Speaker 5 (36:23):
We've literally been sitting in this bar the entire time.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
David David Kector, he's been. He was on the Sunday
Show with me years ago. He made a visit.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
And when he does comedy stops Rich you should have
him on the Morning Zoos show. I do, I do as.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
David Keckner, who played Champ Kind, The Wet, the Sports Swammy.
Speaker 5 (36:48):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
Every time he plays San Diego. There's a club called
American Comedy Company.
Speaker 5 (36:53):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
All the you know, any of the touring stand ups
they roll through there. And when he plays plays there,
he's Offspire show. He's become a buddy. He's like, you know,
that's a guy who'll I'll shoot a message to every
once in a while, Champ.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
Kind that's that's a beautiful thing, a wonderful man. See
it spills out and you've seen the dominance through the
years of that cast has had. Uh And I celebrate
Vince Vaughan as well. My my daughters. They have an
aversion to him. I mean, he's a cub fan, so
that's problematic, but I mean he is he is a
Chicago guy. Noboy will take him over Cusack any day,
(37:28):
Oh you will. He at least picked a side like yeah, yeah,
Like if it was Cusk, you used to ask for
for tickets from everybody. See exactly all right, he's rich Ornberg.
I by Carmen. Coming up next, we turned back into
the NBA NFL with DeVante Adams going after Frostburg.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Gonna find my baby, gonna hold her tight, Gonna grab
some afternoon delight. My motel has always been when it's tried,
it's tried.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
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Speaker 4 (01:08):
Things are good, dude. You know we're we're doing the
summer thing. The Ormburger household was a little restless, so
we went out to Hawaii for a week. We did that,
We got an East coast travel planned, and then, like
everybody else across the country, we do lock it in
for the preseason and we we wait by the hearth
(01:30):
for the NFL season to come.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
That's you got the hearth in very early, nicely, agun.
That's right. Yeah, it's all our vocabulary words. Generally, what
you and I do is we try to stack up
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Penn State. That's right, That's right. So that's where we're at.
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lot of you know, Euro twenty twenty twenty four. We
(02:17):
just had the Copa America game just went final with
Argentina and a win, and Messi finally scores a goal.
You know, I did this a little with Arnie Spanier,
but you know, you're a man who loves, you know,
all sporting events, especially when you're trying to find some
betting angles for the shows on the weekend as well
as I went and took in some Gaelic football.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
I was in Ireland two weeks ago, so you know,
a little bit of chaos and they actually had a
situation whereby they were attending to an injured player on
the field and played continued. It's one of the greatest
things I've ever seen.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
It's amazing how how different areas of the country root
on their sports. Like the first time I experienced soccer
stateside was at a New England revs. Game the Revolution,
who played at Jiled Stadium, sharing the field that we
played on when I was with the Patriots, and it
(03:12):
was sparsely attended, not a lot of people around, you know,
so sit but standing field side and watching these athletes,
you know, a whole new appreciation for the sport. Then
after that time, I probably didn't see a live soccer
event until the inaugural LAFC season, and much like you,
(03:34):
just the pomp and circumstance around soccer. Now, I never
experienced it in Europe. I've never been to Ireland as
a matter of fact. But in the stands during this
LAFC game, they had a giant bass drum they were
banging on, they were setting off smoke bombs everywhere. It
was like nothing I had ever seen. And I was
(03:56):
paying more attention to the crowd than it was the
actual pitch or field or whatever they call it.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
It was unbelievable, it was.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
I mean, it's it's just a completely different environment than
watching an American football game.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Any any piss bags or batteries in the crowd As.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
A matter of fact, I didn't see any piss bags.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
I saw no batteries.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
I did see a bald man with his shirt off
get more and more inebriated until he fell asleep on
top of the woman standing in front of him. Okay,
he was dragged out of there, but it was But
other than that, yeah, nothing out of the norm.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
No, that's some next level stuff. I mean, for all
for all of the you know, excitation and a fifty
thousand person crowd for this for this matchup that I
was watching Galway and Dublin, really not a lot in
the crowd, do you know, a lot of positivity and
a lot of kind of quiet observation of what was
going on. A lot of screaming and chaos. I mean
(04:52):
you had more of that down in the tunnel trying
to get towards the beer and the concession stands because
there was nothing actually in the state him two thirty
five minute halfs very fast moving, but you know, the
level of violence was immense, which was great on the pitch,
I should say, so you know, it just kept the
line moving. So it was a nice experience there overseas,
(05:14):
and it's good to be back in the throes of
all of the chaos. Ahead of the beginning of training camp,
we got the Hard Knocks story of all stories because
we all want to challenge our athleticism, so we'll do that.
Because there is off season Hard Knocks. We're less than
a month away from the Bears being featured, and right now,
if you were to call it a stock, I think
(05:35):
it would be overweighted with the number of people that
have jumped on board the Bear's bandwagon. But we'll get
into that a little more in earnest as we go on,
as I mentioned, watching a lot of Copa America and
the Euro twenty twenty four, and here here's just a
great stat. As we get jumping off, we've got the
Mike Gundy, what the hell are you doing? Quote of
(05:56):
the day coming up in about fifteen minutes. But Messi
scored his first goal of the tournament tonight. In two
thousand and seven, he scored his first career goal at
Copa America. Earlier, Spain beat France to advance and Bape
had a chance in the eighty fifth minute, defender on
(06:18):
his heel and he ended up sailing it about twenty
feet over the crossbar. So failed by one of the
big names. But a guy named Jamal who's sixteen years old.
Rich sixteen years old, he scores his first Euros goal. Yeah,
at this time that Messi was scoring his first career
goal at Copa America, Jamal was being born. So there
(06:40):
you go.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
Crazy.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
It's a crazy world that we're living in because we're
talking about forty year old Lebron James, his kid coming
into the league and all of that fun stuff. As
we go on. But we're gonna get started with Joe
Burrow back in the news saying he wants all the smoke,
he wants all the attention, because, hey, you forgot about me,
right he's with M and M dropping his new album
(07:03):
on Friday. It's only appropriate, right, forgot about Dre. Same
thing here, Joe Burrow saying, Hey, I'm gonna give people
something to talk about. Channeling a little what is that
early nineties Bonnie ray it? Yeah, while he's at it,
how about that leaving no musical stone in pop culture
reference on turned But he's got a couple of things.
He was on the Pardon My Take podcast and he
(07:25):
started talking about the schedule and the inevitability of the
eighteen game coming to this to the NFL. Right, we've
got that big direct TV lawsuit thing going on that's
gonna cost him a lot of money, and you know,
really kind of funny how it equates to the amount
of money that was gonna be split nationally from the
(07:47):
revenue of the National Football League. It's really crazy how
that works in terms of penalties and all that fun
stuff when you parse it out. But he's saying, hey,
if we're gonna do an eighteenth game, then we wanted
a second and he's already mapped it out. How about
a buy in week thirteen to where you know, hey,
we'll do the Pro Bowl there, which is kind of
(08:08):
silly because the Pro Bowl in the middle of season.
Who the hell's participating unless you're gonna go shuit up
Barry Sanders a bunch of legends.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
But Mike, nobody, nobody is participating in the Pro Bowl
right now. It's a two hand touch football game. It's
a glorified you know, attendance. Roll call, No, that's it.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Show up, wave your little cab, let your sponsor money,
sign a couple of autographs, take a couple of pictures,
and run off the field. So like the whole concept
at this point, it's like hard knocks for me as well.
It's like, I guess it's a necessity for the job
that I've got to pay attention to it to a degree.
But if it went away, I don't think i'd miss it.
(08:47):
Not a lot of people in your life, right they go,
oh you remember that guy? Yeah, I guess, Okay, cool,
Moving on, same thing here, the Pro Bowl. Look, a
lot of folks still want to watch and bet on it,
but moving it into season. I mean, you want to
talk about zero participation? Are you gonna play it as
a video game?
Speaker 4 (09:06):
I waffle back and forth. I really do like you know,
so the Pro Bowl it listen. I do not get
much enjoyment out of the Pro Bowl, and frankly, I
really never did when I was growing up. I was
more of a basketball All Star Game fan. I didn't
really love baseball growing up. That was a taste I
acquired as an adult. Actually, that's when I fell in
(09:29):
love with baseball as a fan and with football. The
Pro Bowl it just sort of seemed silly, like I
don't know why, even as a kid, like I was like,
what is this game for? And the answer to that
question was, well, for bragging rights, I guess it.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Just kind of like take care of the sponsors, yeah,
and showcase Hawaii and take their tourism off, you know,
advisory board dollars, right.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
And the players they they clearly did not want to
be there, you know. The I don't mean that because
they do want to win Pro Bowls. They want to
have their names attached to that recognition because, like you
just said, that is a great way to market yourself. Obviously,
when your legacy is being totaled after your career is over.
(10:18):
If you're so lucky to be considered for all Hall
of Fame bid there are voters who care how many
times you were named to these lists. And I'm not
exactly sure why, because these lists are subjective anyways, So
if you are voting on a Hall of Fame candidacy,
why you would lean on other people to advocate for
players instead of doing your own advocacy is ridiculous to me.
(10:41):
But that's a different, you know, debate for a different day.
But yeah, in terms of like having a mid season
Pro Bowl break like the NBA does, like we're coming
up on in Major League Baseball, I don't think I
would be tremendously opposed. You know, if we expand the
season to eighteen games, I do think a second bye
week would be necessary.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Anyways, Wait, that roster expansion or two things that you
definitely have to look.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
At, you know, and then the other thing you'd have
to look at in terms of contracts, Like you know,
now you go in the span of potentially six years,
ten years, whoever, you know, whatever it is, you expand
by two games. You know, it's almost like imagine your
boss walking into your office and saying, hey, buddy, you're
(11:26):
doing a great job around here. We're making tremendous amounts
of money, and incrementally your salary is going to increase.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
However, we're gonna have you.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Work an extra hour and twenty minutes every single day.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
And you say, oh, okay, well I'll be paid for that, right, No, no, no, no,
you're not going to be paid for that.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Wait, so I gotta work instead of eight hour days,
I gotta work nine hour, twenty minute days, and I'm
not going to be paid anything more. Yeah, no, no, no,
you're not gonna get paid anymore. And as a matter
of fact, we're thinking about increasing that in a couple
of years, and you're not gonna get a single dime
more upfront by comparison to how much more you're working.
You're just gonna have to deal with those incremental raises, uh,
(12:09):
every year, just like you always had. Well, what what
sense does that make?
Speaker 5 (12:14):
Yeah? I don't think it'll we'll ever get there.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Where these these uh, these these contracts, these current NFL contracts.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Will ever be recalibrated when they add games.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Because I'm I'm imagining you would have to have a
labor stoppage in order for the owners to you know,
bend the neeed to the players in that way. But
you get into this this discussion, this debate about fairness,
about player safety, about the tradeoff. You know, yeah, the
NFL is going to make a lot more money and
ipso facto, the players are gonna have a larger cut
(12:46):
of the broadcast revenue, but they're not going to get
it immediately, just like they didn't win they expanded the
league to seventeen game seasons.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Yeah, that's the thing, rich, right is And and you
know this from therr as working in the league and
as a player, how much information flows through a locker
room or doesn't through your player representative? Right? Some are good,
some are really great at it, and some it's kind
of like, all right, well here's the link, get after it,
(13:17):
and there's not a lot of discussion. And as a
player's association, and look, I've been vilified many a time
by folks I've done shows with and maybe you'll hate
me too. Generally they go for the lowest hanging fruit
stand in right, because you have such a great, large
gradient and so many different slices. You know, you and
(13:37):
I love to cook, so, right, the stuff that's well
done on the edges versus a little pinker and rare
in the middle. Right, if you've got a nice roast
going on, in terms of your cook time and what
you need to do with it, it's the same thing with
the players that now making guys actually meet. So maybe
not the best analogy, but for the purposes of this,
you know, it's a slab of beef. So it's the
idea of, Hey, the quarterbacks are up here. Concerns at
(14:01):
fifty million dollars a year are a lot different than
most of the roster, which are just trying to hang
on and get another check in another year towards vesting,
towards retirement benefits and whatever else. Right, So when it's
being parsed out of all, right, here's everything we got
to fight about. You know, you've got different stratas of
(14:23):
where people's concerns are really pressing, right, And the big
guy and the forty million dollars a year player doesn't
always look out for the interest of the guys on
the back end of the roster that are what eighty
percent of the roster, right, in terms of how much
you know we're talking about guys and what they make
(14:43):
and their longevity, right, the average career being a shade
over three years, and that includes a very long tail
of guys with a cup of coffee.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
It's amazing.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
How if you pay the massive majority of players better
you know, who make up like you said that eighty
percent of players who are making in that minimum range,
you're going to swing the vote in your favor.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
If you're the owners. They figured that out years ago.
They're going to keep banging that drum.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
And as a result, you know, if they do expand
the league to eighteen game regular seasons, which I imagine
they will, well it's not going to change anything contract wise,
but I do think there will be roster expansion. Like
you mentioned, I do think an additional bye week is
a necessity, and there will be probably some other accommodations
(15:34):
made along the way. And to be perfectly honest with you,
from a fan perspective, as long as it.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
Doesn't dilute the product, as.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Long as it still remains an urgent regular season, I'm
not gonna mind.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
In fact, the more football the better, No, a hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
The hard part to it is where they have gotten
concession to pass is where they've you know, hey, we're
going to have fewer practices, shorter this. So the game
actually does suffer in some respects, at least a lot
of times in the early September outings that we see
going for plenty more on this and others. Rich Hornberger,
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sort it all out here next. He's Rich. I'm Mike.
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updates today. One of the stories that hit the headlines today, Rich,
I had to read it a couple of times, and
then when the audio surfaced, well you played it a
couple of times to say is this AI generated or
is this for real? Yea, my Gundy Oklahoma state coach.
Remember once upon a time, I'm a man, I'm forty.
(18:00):
You know he had a well, a bit of a
controversial statement would be well, perhaps an understatement of it
Oli Gordon the second he had Big twelve Media Days
going on on June thirtieth, Tulsa suspicion of a dui.
He will not miss game time, according to Gundhy, for it,
(18:20):
he blew a point one zero, so narrowly over the
legal limit. Right now, we get into semantics, and after
looking it up the metric, well, Gundhi decided to be
super sleuth. Yeah, so obviously at Il and all that
talking about money to be made, Gandy would go on
to say the punishment would be, I don't know, give
(18:40):
him fifty carries. He later tried to walk this back
after saying, you know, it's a decision I've probably made
a thousand times. Hang a star on that one quote.
My intended point today at Big twelve Media Days was
that we are all guilty of making bad decisions. It
was not of reference to something specific. He says he
(19:04):
considers the matter settled, but trying to walk back the
statement of probably done that a thousand times. You know
I getting away with that one, Mike Gandy.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
Yeah, and right.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Now you've got a lot of folks targeted because we
are in that that quiet time right where we look
for those stories and and coaches and administrators from colleges,
high schools all the way up through the pros. They
don't want their phone to ring. We had that at
the accident over the weekend, killing three young men, a
(19:37):
draft pick this year and his high school teammates. All
of that that we're talking about, you know, that time
of year where the worst comes out, and from Mike
Gundhy to make light of it with a flippant remark,
I mean, you're you're talking about a guy that is
(19:57):
going to be watched at every turn going forward.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
So I'm thirty eight years old.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
When I was in high school, a show debuted on
Comedy Central called Chappelle's Show, and it was Dave Chappelle,
who's a stand up comic and you know, oftentimes is
considered controversial for things he says and.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
Writes jokes about.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
But it was widely regarded as one of the funniest
sketch shows around.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
No question about it. Still quoted oftentimes, or maybe a
little less in the hallways than it used to be.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
Well yeah, well, I'm I'm going to quote it right now.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Sometimes keeping it real goes wrong, and this is a
sterling example of when keeping it real goes wrong, because
that was one of the sketches they did, and it
was those intrusive thoughts that you know, they're supposed to
be inside thoughts.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
They're supposed to be things that maybe even take with
you to the grave.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Mike Gundhy, you're not to say all of the things
that the little Mike Gundy voice inside of your head
says to you. Some of those things you just they
they just only those those are yours, Those are all
for you. And you don't tell a single person.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
Now. Am I advocating for anybody drinking and driving.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Obviously not. Do I think it's smart that he's made
that decision a thousand times in the past. Obviously not.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
But when you are the head football coach.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Or when you are the CEO, or you're the president
of the United States, or you hold a high ranking
position in some you know, government branch or military or
what have you, you have to have better sense than
to keep it that real.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
And listen, this is coming from somebody.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Who hates inauthenticity, Like I really I dislike it when
I feel like I'm being lied to. Sure, but you
can not keep it that real and also be authentic
and honest like like he could have addressed this by saying, listen,
my players a young man, and as we all know,
(22:13):
young men sometimes make mistakes. He's shown contrition. We're upset
about this. He's upset about this, and we're gonna work
through it with him because we believe in him as
a person and we see the light at the other
end of the tunnel already, and we know he's going
to put in the work to improve his situation.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
And that's where you leave it.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
And guess what, you're not lying to anybody, but you
know what, you're not admitting to committing a crime a
thousand times over time of your player.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
But one of the crimes that, let's face it, you
know in the news and when we go through it
that it's so avoidable, right, there's a million services and.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
That's a yes, right by which these.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Days you know a quick you know, three clicks of
you on your phone and you're done. Look, if he
can do legal stuff, I can tell you how to
get an app and get the app and call for
a ride to come get you where you need to go.
Not to mention that in a lot of circumstances, certainly
at the pro level, you've got people on staff that
that's part of their job, right for your well being
(23:24):
as a player. And I'm guessing more and more colleges implementing,
especially in this new day and age of nil and
other benefits that players are receiving. That means there's also
more people from the administrative side to make sure that
everybody is protected, everybody's mind and their p's and q's
and things of this nature.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
And see that that is the whole story right there.
So the two biggest things about this story that stick
out the most to me is student athletes are going
to be held to a much higher standard than they
ever have before because it's less emphasis on student and
more emphasis on athlete now that they're being paid like
(24:04):
professionals at the collegiate level. And the more and more
those dollar bills expand and the more sourced reports about
how much these star players are getting paid at all
these different universities, there's going to be a lot less
interest in giving these giving excuses.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Well, yeah, you're not a can anymore.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
Yeah, exactly right, you're a professional.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
And by the way, there are eighteen year olds who
are across the world from their families fighting for this
country that was the argument I always made back in
the Mike Williams, Maurice Colerett and whatever else, Like, if
some team wants to take a shot on a guy,
why do we protect the teams from themselves? And then
the other part of this is, so yeah, like you said,
the accountability is going to be more so on the
(24:48):
players than ever before.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
Nobody can cry poverty.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Hey, you know I didn't have any money in my
account to call an uber. It's like, oh, yeah, I
didn't have any money in your account after getting the
couple hundred thousand dollars in door deal from the car
dealership or from Jimmy Johns, or from you know, whatever
it may be. And then you know, let's let's also
include in this nightmare of a situation for this collegiate program,
(25:13):
the fact that Mike Gundhy, who's supposed to be the
liaison between your players in the general public, stepping in
it so royally, Like, I mean, he took a bad
situation and he made it several magnitudes.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Worse, million times worse.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
It's insane.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
So it's like, the accountability is going to be more
so higher and higher on the player side for making
these dumb decisions because they're going to be treated more
like professionals than like amateurs, more so than ever before.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
And then on top of it.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
You're going to have to have coaches smart enough not
to make the bad thing worse when the media comes
sniffing around saying, hey.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
What's going on? Why was your player in a drunk
tank with the Dale last night?
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Oh he's not doing anything I wouldn't do. Wait what,
that's how you're handling this, Mike, right, I mean what
is going on?
Speaker 5 (26:07):
Right?
Speaker 3 (26:07):
You're saying I've done this a million times and look
and by the grace of God, I'm here. Tada. No,
that's not the way this works.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
It's an abhorrent thing to it to admit to. And
look again, many people across our globe, right we're global
here on the iHeartRadio app can say, Okay, I've done
that before, or maybe you know, I had a scary situation,
maybe I survived a terrible situation, whatever, you know somewhere
on that continuum. But for for Gundhy to kind of
(26:37):
throw out the thousand times like to your point, you're
the CEO of this corporation, right, talk about the learning
talk about whatever measures he's got to do in the community,
you know, and as an organization, we can't stand like
because he wasn't contacted. This isn't a phone call twenty
minutes after the incident to where you've got to respond
(26:57):
to something.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
Come on, who has it done? Yeah, Gundy, Gundy wasn't. Yeah,
this wasn't. He was dragged out of bed, shaken, awake
and foisted in front of a camera fifteen minutes after
finding out the news.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
You're absolutely right.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
Yeah, let me ask you this question because I haven't
seen the video yet. I just heard the audio that
we played here. Did he did he put his mullet
on backwards? Did he have the party in the front
and the business in the back? Maybe that was the problem.
It okay, I understood.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
I'm just making sure, you know, because sometimes you know,
like you know, sometimes.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
The party speaks first and then you know, the business
side it gets like, you know, you got to make.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
Sure you wear those mullets, so you got to keep
them on straight. Of course.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
It's it's funny you say that, because we'll we'll talk
about Mullet Night as a as an event as we
go forward, because you do have minor League teams that
celebrate the mullet like no other and every year they
get after it the Blue Wahoo's So there you go.
It's uh, you ever try that look? It's a look
(27:58):
because it's coming back a little bit, which I really
got a frightening.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
I was a kid and I had a buddy at
school who wore a mullet.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
His name was Glenn and Glenn.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
Dude, Glenn, if you're still around, buddy, you know who
I'm talking about.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
We're in miss super wow.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
If you're still around, you went that. That went that far?
Wellst not if you're listening. So what you're saying is
the mullet was one of many bad decisions. Yeah, you're
privy to in the life of Glenn.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
Well, me and Glenn and missoulet second grade class we did.
We did some crazy stuff thousands of times. So it's
you know, who knows where he's at in life now.
But but but I remember he had this mullet. I
mean it was sharp, man. His parents did it right,
and uh, and I went. I went to the Lemon
Tree barber shop in Long Island, New York with my mom.
It was haircut day. All three of us were going
(28:46):
to get in the chair. And when it was my turn,
I said, I want to shorten the sides. I want
a short on top and I want a long in
the back. And my mom, I mean when I say
she dove in the way of the scissors like she
was like she was secret service protecting a high ranking delegate.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
It was unbelievable. She was like, absolutely not not in
my household.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
So no, the closest I ever got was was, you know,
maybe maybe two feet away from having the first of
my golden locks, uh trimmed at a barber shop.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
But yeah, never never wore a mullet.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Now that's funny as hell. Frostburg's admitting that he hat
he wore one for a sum full summer rich dude, Yeah,
I mean, was it this summer shops?
Speaker 4 (29:31):
I mean, honestly, wait, look, and I know you spoke before.
I mean, what was it was? It just was the phone.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Tracking glorious mode.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
Yeah, yeah, I understand.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
I seen the pictures.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
No, I was scared, bring him in, bring him in? Well, yeah,
what about you? I mean the twer ty shirt.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
I mean, I mean he's got a glorious head of hair.
Let us right now, Yeah, he's and he's rocking a
mustag like Sash too.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
I haven't.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
He's gone and watched all A. I think he went
and saw Maxine and he was inspired. I'm scared he's
gonna pull me over.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
I think Ty should have sent me a selfie immediately.
I am a fan of a good mustage.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
This is some next level stuff. I mean the hair
is flowing, slick back a little bit, and then he's
got the mustache going.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
Yeah. Yeah, that's a handsome boy.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Too powerful and attractive men, There's no question about it.
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Speaker 3 (31:38):
Hey, welcome back in Fox Sports, a Radio Jason Smith's
Show with me Mike Harmon, Rich Hornberger in for Jason Smith. Tonight.
Our all star crack team is assembled. And I saw
notice earlier today in my socials. Rich. You know how
much I love going to the movies and celebrating movies,
(31:59):
and we bring pop culture into the show all the time.
You and I randomly quoting like you know little Kid's
lines back and forth. I mean, that's just what we do.
And I hope I never grow up. It's one of
those songs, right, I hope you never grow up, hope
you stay this little It's a whole Taylor Swift thing.
I'm kind of that same thing. But I saw that
(32:20):
Christina Applegate posted that in her latest episode of her
podcast that she had Will Ferrell stop by and they
started talking about Anchorman, which was officially released twenty years
ago today. Yeah, and you know, really it really yawged
(32:41):
my memory when we started talking about Ty Shirt, his
magnificent hair and his mustache, because you know, don't touch
the hair or face. That's part of the fight rules.
But Will Ferrell also talked about how when they first
wrote it and screened it, the ending had to be
completely he done and reshot because it tested terribly.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
Oh Mike.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Basically, they had Christina Applegate's character kidnapped and then they
had to go and save her and this whole thing,
and it tested terribly with the audience that was part
of the podcast. You could find it iHeartRadio and app
and wherever you get your podcasts. It's an amazing story,
just going oh yeah, everybody hated it. You know, you're
(33:24):
hoping for a big test r. I'd score from one
to one hundred. He goes, we're at about a fifty.
Speaker 5 (33:29):
That's insane.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
So fifty percent of people walked away hating the ending
of the movie. What's impressive, though, is how well received
it was, how quotable it is, and how much it
stands up because even still now, when when you find
a young group of guys or girls who haven't been
exposed to the movie yet and you show it to them,
(33:53):
man oh man, like, there are some belly laugh scenes
in there, and I've done that a couple of times.
The privilege of of of of debuting that movie a
couple of times to a couple of different groups of people,
and it was it was fun, man, Like, you know,
that movie holds up Talla Dagan Knights hold up. Will
(34:15):
Ferrell has had a couple of hits and and a
couple of them around sports that I think were even underappreciated,
like kicking and screaming.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
I loved with my brothers stepbrothers. We watch it at
every turn. Kicking and screaming, grossly underrated film. ROAs Mike
Dicktt was good Dick. It was great in it. Robert Duvall,
and of course any movie that includes Rachel Harris.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
I'm gonna punch you in the over a.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
Yeah, he really will, and he really will, by the way,
Tysher at the show break, he sent me a picture
of his beautiful mustache, his flowing locks, and also he
was holding his snake.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
And that's that is not in you Ida.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
He would like, you can't say that until after ten
o'clock local time. No, no, no, no, save Harvard kind of quotes.
Speaker 5 (35:01):
It was. It was.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
It was an immature albino Burmese python mouth.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
No no, ron, I do not have the poop mouth.
I do not know.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
I would you run and I won't read anything on
the prompter. I'm I'm I'm stating facts I was sent.
I mean, it's a beautiful steak too. It looks it resembles,
it resembles the the Britney Spears sneak.
Speaker 5 (35:29):
You remember during the famous.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
When she was singing I'm a slave for you and
dancing around with the snake weet. I'm you know she's
also sworn off all men to now this guy's never
dating again.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
Maybe ten miles north to the San Fernando Valley, Well.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
No, milk was a bad idea.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
We go down the road.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Yeah, it's it's all these these quotables. I mean, the
sequel then came came out. I found out I was
gonna change my role here at Fox Sports Radio as
I answered a voicemail coming out of Seeing Anchorman two.
So it's it's a franchise that has great meaning in
my life and in highly quotable. I mean, how many
(36:11):
times do we talk about punting Baxter? Oh, you wrecked?
Speaker 2 (36:14):
What?
Speaker 3 (36:14):
I love watching I'm gonna do right now his burritos
tou n.
Speaker 5 (36:23):
We've literally been sitting in this bar the entire time.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
David David Kector, he's been. He was on the Sunday
Show with me years ago. He made a visit.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
And when he does comedy stops Rich you should have
him on the Morning Zoos show. I do, I do as.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
David Keckner, who played Champ Kind, The Wet, the Sports Swammy.
Speaker 5 (36:48):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
Every time he plays San Diego. There's a club called
American Comedy Company.
Speaker 5 (36:53):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
All the you know, any of the touring stand ups
they roll through there. And when he plays plays there,
he's Offspire show. He's become a buddy. He's like, you know,
that's a guy who'll I'll shoot a message to every
once in a while, Champ.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
Kind that's that's a beautiful thing, a wonderful man. See
it spills out and you've seen the dominance through the
years of that cast has had. Uh And I celebrate
Vince Vaughan as well. My my daughters. They have an
aversion to him. I mean, he's a cub fan, so
that's problematic, but I mean he is he is a
Chicago guy. Noboy will take him over Cusack any day,
(37:28):
Oh you will. He at least picked a side like yeah, yeah,
Like if it was Cusk, you used to ask for
for tickets from everybody. See exactly all right, he's rich Ornberg.
I by Carmen. Coming up next, we turned back into
the NBA NFL with DeVante Adams going after Frostburg.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Gonna find my baby, gonna hold her tight, Gonna grab
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