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Welcome inside. The NFL season is here. We made it. Yeah,
we made it, we made it. We made it another year.
Here we are real life football with great uniforms and everything. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Now then, now we just need at least a safety
for the rest of the game. And we're sitting pretty
let's go.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
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here we are midway through the third quarter, Chargers all
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over the Lions twenty four to seven, and you know
after vacationing in Detroit for the better part or the
Greater Michigan area. Great. Yeah, now you're a greater Michigan. Yeah.
I've always been a greater Michigan. I've been one of
the greatest Michiganders ever. You've certainly proclaimed yourself to be.
So this is with these two teams right now, and
Trey Lance is playing quarterback for the Chargers. Now it
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feels like it's twenty twenty again. We're back in five
This is awesome. I want to say this, the sense
of football fans and the general sense of how they
feel in Detroit now, going back once a year like
I normally do, it's one of those where I can
take a snapshot and because I'm not there every day,
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I can see the progression. Right.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
So you went and checked out all the jerseys that
people are wearing and all that, or they're wearing tigers gear.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
A little none of the I tell you, well, first
of all, everybody, it's it's University of Michigan. It's everything.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Whether they have an allegiance doesn't matter tied to them
or not. You just have to pretend.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
There's people who have never even been to the Greater
ann Arbor area. Everybody where's Michigan.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Gu Yeah, I mean, look, Notre Dame fans and all
that other I mean there's plenty.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
And boy did I did I go shopping great in
Ann Arbor at the Michigan Store when I was fantastic.
But in the last few years, right, because remember when
I told you, hey, this Lion's team is coming, They're
going to the Super Bowl. And they were one. They
fell one game shot, they lose in the NFC Championship game,
they throw up on themselves in the second half. The
general sense of Lions fans now has gone and I agree,
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it's gone from it's unbelievable that we're this good. Pinch
me because I can't believe this. We've never been this good.
And then it went to the following year was okay, hey,
we got a taste last year. This is a super
Bowl year for us now and it comes to a
screeching hauled against Jayden Daniels and the Commanders in the playoffs.
And now it's more, hey, man, if it ain't this year,
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we gotta blow it up. Like this is where in
just two years, forget about the fact the Lions have
been relevant, being at in years. I mean it's been
you go back to Barry Sanders retiring on the eve
of training, cam Right, Matthew Stafford getting to one playoff game,
whatever it was. You forget Calvin Johnson. Yeah, oh, I'm
done like it. It's gone in the last three years.
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It's gone from what a great story this is, this
is a magic carpet ride to hey man, if we
don't do it this year, we gotta make changes. We
got to blow it up and and and honestly, that's
what's gonna likely have to happen. Because Jared Goff needs
new contract. I'm and Ross saying Brown's gotta gotta need
a new contract. These guys are up. They want to
give more money to Aiden Hutchinson. It's like, okay, there's
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only so much and there's other players a guy to
get paid to Like, this is a super Bowl or
bust year for the Lions, and when's the last time
and not even when Bob because they didn't have a
super Bowl when Bobby Lane was a quarterback. This is
a super Bowl or bust year for the Loans. And
if they don't, if it doesn't happen, this is we
gotta retool. We gotta redo things. We gotta pay Jared Goffield,
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we gotta pay some Like what are you gonna do this?
This is it? This should be the year, right, they
should be the favorites in the NFC. It should be
them and the Eagles again, Right, but the Eagles coming
off a super Bowl? Okay, are they still gonna have
the hunger? Things are gonna go right for them? Like
they should be the team that you say, who should
be in the super Bowl this year, it's the Lions.
It is super Bowl or bust. And if it's bust,
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it's gonna be an entirely new look to this team
because you guess what eventually Jimmie or Gibbs is gonna
want to give me. You gotta pay all this money. Right,
they've already I think realized that, Okay, this is Jameis
and Williams's last year, Right, we can't we can't pay
the guy. We're just gonna have it and he's gonna
go away. But all these guys are gonna want to
get paid. Sam Laport is gonna want to get paid
after this year because he's one of the top five
tight ends in the NFL. Like this is it is
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for the Lions. In two years, it's gone from what
a great story we are to it's super Bowl or
bust and everything change. We need new guys who doesn't
work out well.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
It's an a amazing run and shows you how quickly
the life cycle is in this league and that you're
also talking about super Bowl or Bust as the second
favorite behind the Eagles, sandwich nicely between those NFC East
powerhouses and the Eagles and the Commanders there. But you're
looking at it from the standpoint of you're also doing
it while changing out your coordinators as they both leave
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this offseason, which we know is not the easiest task.
We watched the Eagles have that huge falloff. Now they've
got some shuffling up again after winning the Super Bowl,
but it's now the curiosity for the lines. David Montgomery
spoke to this a little bit last week as they
were entering camp of some of the expectations and looking
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around the locker room of you know, the guys kind
of recognizing exactly what you're talking about. Between contracts and
just the way the National Football League is. You know,
we can talk about how robust and deep the AFC is,
and it's and it is right. You've got a lot
of heavyweights. While in the NFC side of things, we
watched the Commanders rise up quickly. Do you expect a
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little bit of a fallback from the Commanders this year?
Perhaps a little bit right Deebo Samuel checks in with McLaurin,
will eventually figure things out with them. I don't think
he's going anywhere. But they also want a lot of
one score games a year ago. Law of averages says,
maybe you give one or two of those games back,
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which which puts you back into the nice, meaty part
of the curve. Packers. You've got one hundred wide receivers.
I don't know if you have a great one, but
you've got a pretty good roster top to bottom. Forty
nine ers come back and in theory, you'll have better health.
Perhaps the specter that is the injury plague finds another
squad and leaves you Rams.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Matthew Stafford is back. Hold up, love the rest of
the roster.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Do you trust Jimmy g If Stafford's not there, me
and he and DeVonta Adams are best friends. Now the
Buccaneers read too Baker Mayfield. Are they gonna be healthy enough?
Like there's a bunch of teams that are kind of there,
but it's a talent level of the Lions is on paper, right,
them and the Eagles, and it's young talent.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
It's all young. This is not hey, this guy's little
too well, No, the oldest guy is golf and a quarterbacks.
Obviously you play at high level till your mid to
late thirties. Like everybody's young. Everybody this is. This is
the roster everybody wants in the NFL. And it's a
super Bowl. What a world we live in. It's a
super Bowl or bust year for the Lions, not the Cowboys,
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not the Steelers, not the Chiefs, not the Dolphins. I
know it's super Bowl or bus for the line, but
I already go to the offensive side of things.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Right, we look at some of these juggernauts and guys
that for fantasy purposes we're gonna be drafting highly, and
then you decide how much you love or hate youared golf.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
But look at your coordinator.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
It's gonna be a completely different game getting called, oh yeah,
we're not gonna have you know, passes to the offensive
tackle or a little you know, trap plays to them.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
I mean those are gonna be gone all the gadgets.
Ben Johnson such a wizard, and I read today that
they're already all done. Answering the questions of how different
will the offense look this year? A Ben Johnson like,
they're like they're done right with no one's asking, Hey,
how about asking about Aaron Glenn right? Have someone asked
me we lost their defensive No, ask me again about
Ben defensive? Is Hutch healthy?
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Because if Hutch is healthy, we're feeling okay because on
the defensive side of the ball. I mean you talk
about what Glenn was able to do, I mean that
was bandages and duct tape. With the way that defense
was structured at the end of the year, right, so
many guys were out injured, It's like, can you get
to the next game? Like we were trying to learn
who some of these guys were. It's like, remember him,
he was a second team All SEC or what whatever
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in CIRT Conference. Here he hasn't played much of the NFL,
but damnit, he was good college years.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
I'm all up and so far, I'm all on Aaron
Glenn Man. He is done. He is a culture guy.
Hearing the Jets say the practices are better, the communication
is better, everything is. But I'm like, oh my goodness, man,
I'm gonna what else are they gonna say?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
It's gonna you know what, it sucked last year, it's
just as bad.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
No, it's a new guy.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Everybody's sucking up, including all of the beat reporters, Samini.
They all have to suck up because they need the quotes,
they need the access. It's a new regime. So you're
you're gonna say all the positive, glowing things. You paid
your superstars all of that to say, Yeah, it can't
be any darker than it was the last couple of years, right.
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I mean, you've got to have hope springs eternal there
for the New York Football Jets, but yeah, for your Lions.
You started it and then you took them as far
as you could and then you abandon them.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Now they got to do it. Everybody's got to do
something for themselves. Everybody's chomping on that that pistons band.
I can push you on your bicycle, but you got
a pedal and make it doing yours.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
I could do that, but you don't have to pedal anymore.
You got these electric bikes. I don't have to pedal
a damn bit.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Uh, so we'll we'll have stuff on the chargers well
coming up, because Trey Lance is thrown two touchdowns and
we've hit the over. I'm waiting for the for the obligatory.
You know, Trey Lance is younger, is still younger than
seventy four percent of the quarterbacks they have a U.
But he has on a couple of touchdowns for the charge.
We got stuff on the chargers coming up. I mean
he had a fumble on the opening. Yeah, hit that over.
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But today also trade deadline day in Major League Baseball.
We get to the big particulars coming up them. That's
make big moves. The Padres make big moves right the Mariners.
But uh, this was a day where everybody seemed to
get a closer. It's like Oprah walking and you get
a closer, and you get a close. The Yankees got
a closer and said, nope, Devin Williams is still a closer. Okay,
I mean closers went yesterday. Today. It's the year of
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the relief picture being traded. Right this trade deadline there
were there were thirty four trades, I think is what
it was, and I think thirty one of them were relievers,
and certainly thirty thirty one were relievers. And it was
Suarez and Mullins, right, and that's it.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Well, and everybody had once upon a time wore up
Padres or Twins Jersey, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Poor twins. They don't have a team.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Then, I think they only have two guys under contract
through the end of next year.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
With nine players off their roster from this week have
been traded in nine guys. A lot of rosters shuffling there.
But look, here's where I could tell you the why, right,
Because why do we get so many relievers traded? Why
is it? Are the the the influx of it? Why
so many today? And this is part of the new
baseball with the one deadline at the end of July.
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Why did all these relievers get traded? Mainly because relievers
are the easiest players to trade and to trade for.
It's it's sometimes it's just that simple, right, Why is
so many every does everybody the Padres need a reliever? No,
but it was pretty easy to trade for. We got
another club. We got Mason Miller, Okay, we got we
got another club. We don't need it, but we got one.
It's easier to trade for relievers because these guys aren't
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getting paid a ton of money. If you want to
resign a reliever, it's generally not for a ton of money.
The prospects you will give up are not gonna be
ones at the top, but there'll be decent prospects. They'll
be periphery top ten prospects. It's easy. It's like trading
and fantasy with the owner you know you can trade with,
versus the owners you know you can't trade with. And
that's kind of what it is in baseball. Okay, Hey,
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all these teams understand that we're gonna build our starting pitching,
we're gonna build our offense, and then if we need relievers,
we can get them at the deadline because there will
be a plethora of relievers available and we'll be able
to trade some prospects that are in our top prospects
and be able to move that. That's just the way
baseball goes. Now, look at all the teams that had weaknesses.
Look what they did. The Mets bullpen huge weakness. Now
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it's one of their big strengths. Right. The Phillies turn
their bullpen into a big strength. The Padres made their
bullpen even a bigger strength. I don't even think they
need starting pitchers anymore. It's gonna go with the relievers
and roll them all the way through. Right, the Yankees
make a trade for a closer. These guys are all
getting all these teams where the bullpen is our weak link.
They know, guess what, at the deadline, we can do
this because it is the cheapest way to improve our team.
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And that's simply why. And this is going to be
a case forever now because you only have the one
deadline in Major League, but they don't have the end
of August, where hey, these other pitchers that are coming up,
we can get rid of them. They can pass through waivers.
They're worth a lot of money. It's the easiest way
to improve your team. And teams are now going to
go into a season saying, hey, we like our bullpen,
but we're not going to go crazy signing bullpen guys
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because we don't know how the first half of the
year is going to go. We don't know if the
magic this guy had for twenty twenty four is going
to come through in twenty twenty five. We're gonna need
to move on from him. So at the deadline, yeo Okay,
who's having a big year? All right, great, we can
make that move again. This is something that is going
to happen every year. Big relievers will get dealt every
single season, and teams are going to build that way.
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So when they get to the deadline, we know, okay,
how do we make our team better check mark. We'll
get a couple of relievers coming in, we'll get a closer,
and suddenly our bullpen has lights out. Now, all of
a sudden, these big contenders got way better by not
giving up a lot. It's a very popular way.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Well, and that's the other part is just the way
the game itself has been structured and changed that you know,
we get guy that goes seven innings, we're busting out
the New Year's Eve streamers and horns to celebrate.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
A big effort.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Otherwise it's you need three four arms a day. We
talked about it last night. Look at the Dodgers. They
made some moves, not the big splash than any anybody.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Was really looking for, although they.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Did get mister Tibbs, so we'll get to run that
line a lot for the second TIBs.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
They picture the Reds and the Mets in the eighties.
He was supposed to be great.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Jab is still around, no question, no, but it's it's
just the idea that you're gonna need there. They already
have gone through thirty seven arms.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Shut up.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
But all of that to say, I mean the get
Us Book of World Records.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
We said it last night. It's forty two.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
And now you're adding more arms and hoping Blake Snow
when he comes off Saturday, can give you a bunch
of innings. Otherwise you've got a bunch of relievers that
are already been highly leveraged and trotted out quite frequently.
So team for team, they're trying to match up. When
you look at your front runners in either league, but
also just the changing face of baseball, you need to
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get through the long slog in the dog days of
August and into September. If you're still a competitor, you
need fresh arms, and you need three guys that are
gonna be at the ready every day. And you can't
keep trotting guys out two three times a series and
think you're gonna have great success. Allows more roster management
and opportunity, you know, to find that that perfect matchup
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and give guys, you know, their their inning and push
it forward. So yeah, from an economic standpoint, absolutely, from
a gameplay standing you know, it's just the new new
world order in baseball.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Yeah, it's It's just this is how it goes. It's easy.
Relievers are going to find their market the off season
not being great and then being well sought after the deadline.
That's just how it's gonna I mean, we talk with
John Palmarrossi a little bit Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
We'll talk to them again now that the dust is
starting to settle, and he's like, yeah, it's it's all
relievers all time.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
We asked about starting.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Pitch, he goes, maybe maybe you'll see a couple of
guys that we did, but a couple of jags.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
And no, no, but that we didn't see Dylan Cees,
we didn't see all the going all in.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
I got a lot of people that are really meant
and device degrees. I found his way out right.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
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take best game of Trey Lance's career? Is this the
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best game of Trey Lance's career? Thirteen out of twenty
for one hundred and twenty yards and two touchdowns quarterback
rating of one point fifteen. He's also run for ten yards. Yes,
he did like the first play. Okay, not great, But
is this the best game of Trey Lance his NFL career?
Speaker 2 (19:01):
I don't think you have a lot to compare it to. Remember,
he played in that whatever you would call that weather
storm against the Bears. Yeah, oh yeah, so that that
was not good for anybody. What else we got He's
got a total of twelve games. Yeah, No, this is
by far the best. This is Yeah, this is the best.
This is the best we've seen. Trade took him five years.
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This is the best we have seen Trader.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
No.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
I mean it's the long road, uh long traveled, and
now here's your opportunity.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Made the most of it.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Nice rollout well well, and that completion to Disley, I mean,
come on, that was great.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Like I said, he's looked good tonight. Can't take that away.
I want to say this is part of it that
he looks good because he's wearing that sweet ass charge
of uniform that looked fantastic. Like, yeah, I think I
think you generally look better playing in those uniforms. Well,
look good, feel any good interceptions? Look good? Oh that
wasn't his fault. Why because look at the uniform he's wearing.
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That was not He threw it right to the guy.
There wasn't a receipt twenty yards. Yeah, but look look
how he stretched out that uniform, that powder blue and
the lightning hot look facs.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
But if you look at the rotation of the ball
and the release point, I mean it was picture perfect.
I mean, look at this. It doesn't even look perfect
in this beautiful uniform.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
All right now, So I ask you this, let me
ask you this now before you get back to the
matre Baseball traded loine. So here's Trey Lance. Obviously, you know,
trying to win a job, trying to stay a backup
in the NFL. Didn't work out in San Francisco, didn't
work out in Dallas. Right now, if he was taken
number one overall'd be talking about what an unbelievable draft
bust he is. Because when he was taking three overall,
people kind of forget that. Yeah, yeah, because things worked
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out for the forty nine as well. Jimmy was still
pretty good and well they got lucked in with brock Purty.
So okay, it doesn't seem like it now. It's really
the asset they didn't get. They could had a franchise
player at number three overall that they don't have anymore.
But now at this point, like Trey Lance, if I
said to you, percentage chance by the age of thirty.
By the age of thirty, remember he's only twenty five. Again,
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the obligatory Trey Lance is younger than seventy eight percent
of all the starting quarterbacks in the NFL. Remember that,
what he would.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Say, Well, and seventy eight percent of the guy's drafted
in this no percentage Okay, he's not that young.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
He's young. He's not that young. Okay, it's not like
Chris Wanki was drafted. I just like you, throwing out
the seventy eight percent Ye, no percentage chance that by
the age of thirty he gets Darnoalded or genode where
he somehow finds his way into a starting job in
the NFL, either's a bridge quarterback or someone there's an injury.
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So we're gonna go with him this year and he
has a chance for a big payday and to be
a starter in the NFL by the age of thirty.
Does that happen for Trey Lance? I mean, based on tonight,
I mean he's a whiz. No you want to I
mean understand what sixty seven quarterbacks a year get hurt? Now? No,
but that's hurt. But that's the number we would go to.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Right is like we're into the sixties every year, either
because of operations shut down in week seventeen or eighteen,
or the obligatory injury bug that hits, or we start
going into the well, eventually we're getting eighteen games. We're
gonna need even more of these guys creeping around Right now.
You got Herbert Heineke, Trey Lance, and.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Who's gonna see some time here? Right? Yeah? And the
people are going, wait, Djuila is in the he's not
stelling college football somewhere. I think he played for your
nine in college foot Well.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Look, if you could keep going, and especially once payments
started for point, why would you leave?
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Who's been on more teams? Leana la or Blake Snell.
Who's been on more teams who's been on. Oh, I
think it's a push, right, I think it's a push.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
But all of that to say that for for Trey Lance,
look in San Francisco, he never got a chance to
reclaim the job. Right once Brock Purdy took over coming
back off injury, that that was the end of that. Dallas,
he was never gonna see the field. And now you
move on here, He's never gonna see the field.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
But I have no doubt. I have no problem saying that.
If we saw it for Sam Darnold, who proved that
he couldn't do it in a lot of places before
he gets into the right system, if we've seen it
for Gino Smith, who was a backup for ten years
in the NFL, Trey Lance's draft pedigree for a good reason,
is going to follow him around the league. Right, This
guy was drafted number three overall for reason, Right, Sam
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Darth guy was drafted number three overall for reason. Right,
Jets took Gino Smith for everybody took him for a read.
He took him for a reason. By the time he
is thirty, he will get a chance. He will get donalded,
he will get geno'ed. He will get a chance to
be a starting quarterback, either as a bridge quarterback or
coming in as a backup that you can trust, and
he gets thrust into a starting role. By the age
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of thirty, he will be starting for an NFL team
for a full season. Look at you all because of
a thirteen for twenty two touchdown performance in a glorious
uniform on of Hall of Fame. He just got you,
just got you. Look you have to find the right system.
Quarterback systems under Jim Harbor generally friendly. They don't ask
you to do too much. They want you, Okay, what
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do you do? How do you do it? Why did
you have to do that? I say this knowing that
I'm trying to trade from the Dynasty League. They didn't
ask McCarthy to do a lot. They justin Herbert had
a great year last year, asking him to do a
little bit less. This is where you go to rehabilitate
yourself as a quarterback. To understand that I'm in a
quarterback friendly system with a guy who was a quarterback. Yeah,
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this is where I needed to be. Right in San Francisco,
I couldn't be healthy. Nothing I could do about that.
In Dallas, I never got the chance because I was
brought in to be someone just to push Dak Prescott.
But by some point in the next five years, is
he gets a little bit of quarterback playing under him
and he's able to play, he's able to stay healthy.
He will go somewhere as a backup and he will
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get to play a little bit, and suddenly Trey Lance
will be someone who all right, hey, we'll we'll pick
him up for a year and see it. Remember you
saw the journeys of all these other guys. You would
never say Geno Smith or Darnold and these are all
ex jets. We'll ever get a chance to start somewhere
else in the NFL again, And look what happened. These
guys are getting chances well.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
But the big thing with him is like we just
don't know. Like, like I said, he's appeared in twelve games,
a couple of those were torrential downpours, injury shortened and
then you know, a cup of coffee to finish games.
Uh So, like now you're trying to figure out where
you fit in the league, and to the point that
you need three guys in camp, or if you're the
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Browns four, maybe a fifth. You never know that you're
gonna go through the paces injury attrition every year. It's
the same thing. So yeah, is the possibility. Look, there's
a lot of bad football teams that are are looking
for a guy who's not necessarily a bridge. Someone's gotta
wear the uniforms. Someone's gotta go out under center. So yes,
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you hang around long enough. There's not that many new
guys coming into.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
The league each year.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
They at least at the quarterback position. It's a handful
that find their way in. So yeah, it is the
craziest thing to say he gets a shot.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
No, it's not. You know, you're drafted third overall, you're
gonna get fourteen chances. We see that.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Ay, no, he no, he doesn't have the excuse of
having been with the Jets. Like that's the one thing
where this kind of falls apart.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Well, but the other guys everybody, but most guys are
with the Jets, and then it happened, but not every guy.
Most guys are with the Jets.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
But but the two most famous in this scenario, every
hey wait for them to find the right spot.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Are guys that they had to beat.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
The bad habits and memories of the Jets out of
them like it was Bucky sitting there with the mouthpiece.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
They gave him the shot treatment in the Avengers. You
need that new arm.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
I need that arm.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
I need to remember. I gotta remember who I was.
I need that to it. Oh my god, I was
a jet. No wonder, you also need a new arm.
Why do I keep seeing this guy named Salah? I
don't understand. We don't want those memories. It's like Brian Cott,
Aaron Gleno, Aaron Glenn, Aaron Glenn, Aaron Glenn. Hey, we
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take a look at who the big winner of the
MLB trade deadline was coming up in ninety seconds. But first,
Martin Wise has what's trending in the wide brother sports,
including all the big moves made by the New York Mets,
who made themselves World Series favorites today by acquiring Mariano
Rivera and Kenny Lofton to play center field. Kenny Lofton,
he's not still with the Guardians.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
Can't confirm that one. I can't confirm that. Cedric Mullins.
Though yesterday on MLB dot Com, Jason, You'll be happy
to know the big headline.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Was Cedric Mullin. Rob's home run. Oh yeah, yeah, and
now he's yours. Why the price went up? Hey he
made that great catch. Let's get another player.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
Yeah fine, Cedric Mullins on his way to the Mets.
In the Al East, the Blue Day Trader for Shane
Bieber the Yankees. They added three arms to the bullpen,
Camillo Duvall, David bed Range, Jake Bird. The Red Sox
got Dusty May from the Dodgers. In the NF Those
same Dodgers acquired outfielder Alex Call from the Nationals and
reliever Brock Stewart from Minnesota from Padres. They made twenty
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two trades, five trade, twenty two players.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
On You're right the first time they ve it that way.
Two felt that way.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
It felt that if only every minute I was seeing
something Padres involved with something. They got first base from
Ryan O'Hearn outfielder Ramon Loreano. They also got Mason Miller
JP Sears along with Freddy for Meen. The Texas Rangers
acquired Merrill Kelly from the Diamondbacks Carlos Korea going back
to the Astros from Minnesota. Minnesota also throwing in thirty
three million dollars in that deal. In baseball games, actually
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played today. The Braves won twelve to eleven and ten innings.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
That was a wild game.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
Atlanta trailed, uh San Atlanta had eleven to three lead
in the eighth inning, and Texas and Seattle right now
scoreless in the third. Fajel, I mean the NFL twenty
seven to seven, the Hall of Fame game saw Trey
Lance get to start for the Chargers. As you guys
are just talking about thirteenth to twenty two touchdowns, one
hundred and twenty yards passing, I'm gonna go ahead and
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say it that is his best game and his young
professional career. Dud each, dju Alungela and the famous out
here in southern California in the game. Now, Kyo Allen
two interceptions for the Lions, Hendon Hooker, former Heisman candidate,
before blowing out his knee for Tennessee. Now in the
game with seven minutes left, just under just under seven
minutes left in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
And uh as.
Speaker 6 (29:34):
I thought about this with the Jets, Yeah, justin fields
twenty twenty seven, MVP candidate, back to you with what
teams wash out in twenty twenty five?
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Back then, uh yeah, out to every day. I read
the same thing Justin Fields. Seven on seven drill, incredible
pass to Garrett Wilson finds him over the middle, tight
coverage with Sauce Gardner. Justin Fields is on time. Next one,
Justin Field sails this one way over Mason Taylor's head,
had him wide open in the end zone for a touchdown.
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Like every day is the same. Hey, what an amazing throw. Boy,
Now he makes a throw that he just he just
threw that one into the river. Okay, that's great. That's
that's every day with Justin Fields.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Well, but I mean that's that's been a lot of
camp coverage, which is why I kind of shrug at
most of it and move on. And yeah, might you
get some insights of of what a guy can do
at his best, but sure, you're also doing testing and
unless you're gonna tell me what the objective was by
the defense on a particular play and sequencing what was conferred,
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you know, like you know the play that's coming, let's
run it again kind of thing, and you know the
excellence of executions fight through it. By the way, you
had Hendon Hooker taking down Jared Goff a year ago.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
No more than that, none I remember picking up Hendon
Hooker in Dynasty, thinking Okay, eventually he's gonna win this,
like I like I remember picking him up when he
was going to be out the entire year because Jared Goff. Still,
I'm showing you that there's there's a system. There's a
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system for everyone. If there's a system to make Jared
Goff look good, there's a system for everyone.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Well to be honest, to be fair though. Even though
he didn't pass through the Jets, he did pass through
Jeff Fisher.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
That just gotta find it. Cit I know, by the way,
yes it counts if you can't sing in a in
a musical. It's not when Oh it doesn't matter that
he can't sing, he's so good, No it matters. Uh,
I'm just kidding. Trade deadline today in Major League Baseball,
And honestly, there's two teams. If you want to say
who won, I could tell you the two teams that
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won easy overall. The Mariners. One. You know, they got
Josh Miller the other day and they got Gino Suarez
who they brought him back, and how excited he is,
Like I think they held up the team plane for
him to join the team, to get there for tonight's
game like they didn't give up anything, And really, the
Diamondbacks blew it because they should have traded Suarez a
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week ago when he was hot and everybody wanted him
and clamored for them. They waited too long, and now
they didn't wind up getting nearly the level of players
they should have gotten. But the Mariners add a couple
of absolute mashers and they don't give up any of
their high prospects. They completely win the trade deadline. And
I'll throw the Padres in there too, because even though
I wasn't crazy about the Mason Miller trade because they
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already have a lights out bullpen and getting Miller was, okay,
that's great, you got him. He's under team control, which
tells me after this year, look that Dylan ces is
gonna be gone. They're gonna move, They're gonna they're gonna
really go to a bullpen heavy team. And that's kind
of what they did. They gave up prospects, they gave
up a couple of guys that are really good, but
they made a ton of other trades and they brought
in stability to the bottom of the lineup. And the
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thing that people forget about the trade deadline in baseball,
it's not always hey, did you go get a star,
But do you have a couple of positions that are
performing way below average? And can you bring in average
players or or a tiny bit above average players to
fill that book. Because if you can do that, that's
the same equivalent of bringing in a superstar. Say if
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we're getting a guy that that can't do anything, if
we got a couple of positions at boy, they're really
in the bottom third of the league of what we're
getting offensively in ops or RBI's this position, and you
can go get a league average guy or guy a
little bit above average, then you win. And that's what
the Padres did. I feel like them wast fool proof
their lineup today. Great that they're going for it. I
love the guts and the Padres. They not only went
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out and made one of their strengths even better, but
they made their lineup pretty solid. Right it's no longer
top heavy like it used to be. They're coming off
the sweep in the Mets and they're feeling good about themselves
right now. They kept their starting pitchers. That the vibe
around the team has to be really, really good. No
Padres and the Mariners the two biggest winners of the deadline.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Yeah, I mean we talked a lot about with the
Dodgers and their need to keep going to the pen
and something that was greatly successful a year ago. But eventually,
do you the wrong guy if you have to go
back through that right and going into the bullpen as
frequently as they do through analytics and the fact that
you don't have a lot of starts. You have a
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lot of starters, you don't have a lot of guys
that can give the innings. We talked about this a
little bit last night. Grab the podcast, listen to the
full discussion. But if you're the Padres, you're pot committed
with a bunch of the talent you already had in
so bringing in o'hear and bringing in Loreano fortifying things
on that roster. Dylan Ceese has pitched better of late.
So yeah, you look at the Dodgers and say, hey,
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we can go maybe go and steal this thing, or
if we get in, if we got enough pitching, we
can go that for bat the Suarez deal is good,
and look the Diamondbacks, I don't know how much juice
they had for the fact that he's a little bit
older and he's in the final year of his deal.
So I'm sure some teams were scared away by all right,
we're gonna bring him in and we have to re
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sign him or is he a rental? So what are
we gonna do? The Padres. I know a lot of
our folks in San Diego were mad because Devriez had
to go back out.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
He was a guy that we're very excited about.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Yeah, so now it becomes that laundry list of young
guys hitters that have come through and passed through San Diego,
maybe gotten a cup of coffee with the team, maybe
never got there, and wondering what if and how.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
And all of that.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Yeah, I'd say though, the Padres were the one for me,
just from the since we reside and work in Los
Angeles and the number of people that are now like, wow,
they didn't go away. Everybody else sold off, everybody else
you know, went in the division. No not, we're here.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Yeah, you're a giant, So like, yeah, yeah, we're gonna
trade some guys out, and diamond Back said, yeah, it's
not our year. Yeah we're tapping out.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Whereas the Padres, I like the we're staying with it
because we kept here and Cease was gonna go. Ceasee
was gonna go. So yeah, and look just for your
dad and Fabiano's sake, Yankees. Mullins uh is the big
winner for me though, because he said, I need number
thirty one off that wall.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Oh yeah. And they gave it to one of them,
of course, but what are they gonna say, Hey, am not? Oh,
will give me a moment? Take thirty one? Blanke you
Piazza where we're taking this off the rafters. We're giving
it to Mulon. You gotta a big deal there, man,
I like it. Exit outbout a Fresca exit swollen Dome.
Jason Smith, Mike Harmon coming up next. So there's your
big winners. There are losers for the trade deadline, but
not why you think, not because they made horrible trades,
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but because they've decided that hope is their best strategy
for the rest of the season. Wait, will we tell
you the teams we're talking about? That's next right here,
Jason and Mike not Cleveland, Jason and Mike, Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
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Speaker 1 (36:43):
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friend Mike Harmon. That's because the Chargers lead the Lions
thirty thirty four to seven in the fourth quarner. And
now you got a big pick. He just went quid
over his hit. He went and took it right out
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of Lyle love It's hands.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Oh that was a person late, She's TJ.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
That was a perfect interception. No one lets them know.
So we have the Chargers kneeling on the football now
they're going to win this thirty four to seven. Well,
have more on the first game of the year coming
up in about ten minutes. But we today being trade deadline, right,
we talked about the big winners a few minutes ago,
and it's hard, you know, when you say, oh, because
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the losers now could wind up being winners in a
couple of years, because depending on who you wind up
getting as a prospect takes off right instead, it happens right.
But the two losers, honestly of the trade, and I
know they got a closer. The two losers of the
trade deadline, Dodgers and the Yankees two big losers, because
what they what their philosophy was today was their strategy
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is hope, hope that injured players come back. Sure, hope
that ineffective players start hitting again. We're pitching well again,
because that's what it was. It's the Dodgers minor moves
all across the board. The Yankees miner was though they
did get a closer, and they're still gonna let Devin
Williams closer. Okay, that's great, let's see how along that last.
But but the Yankee still it was a bunch of
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depth moves and they're just and it's hope, because that's
what it is. It's the Dodge and Yankees both hoping that, well,
our guys are gonna hit at some point, right, Okay,
it's the end of July. Just because you think they're
going to doesn't mean they're going to. And both of
them had needs. The Dodge a starting pitching needs. The
Yankees have needs all over the place, and their strategy
was hope that Okay, let's do a couple of things.
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Let's get a couple of hold the fort type players.
All right, Let's go get Amed Rosario. Let's see, let's
let's trade away Dustin May, Let's trade James Autman. Let's
say and it's we got a hope that Mookie Betts
starts hitting and Freddie Freeman starts hitting home runs again,
and and Otani can still pitch and it's only a
you know, his his issue really a cramp, or you know,
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Blake Snell is able to pitch, and Tyler glasnow is
able to pitch, and Cofax can come back and pitch
like this is what both teams decided to subscribe to
in years when hey, if you're the Yankees, you were
the best team in the American League for a while,
and the Dodgers, this is a world series or bust
a year for you. And still it's, yeah, we're gonna
hope our guys come through. Okay, that's great, And we
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say it all the time, and I'm sure people who
wrote Formula One listen to it because we say hope
is not a strategy. They ran it in the movie
Hope is not a strategy. That's why the Dodger and Yankees,
to me, they're the big losers because they just say,
we're gonna do some depth things, even though we have needs.
We're not gonna go crazy when these are years to
go for it because your teams are pretty good, right.
The Dodger's still top of the National League, Yankee still
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in a playoff position, getting hot the last couple of days,
beating the Rays the way they have, They're still really good,
and they've decided yeah, no, we're just gonna kind of
get hold of fort No the hope being their strategy.
They're the losers.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Yeah, I mean you did get mister Ti Bibbs. He's
a second year guy in the minor leagues. He's not coming.
He's not gonna be a second you know, second half
guy that's suddenly bringing you anything off the bench. Outman
for some of his defensive issues the last week, and
Clayton Kershaw comments that might have been the thing to
get him out. And Dustin May we saw him after
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his last appearance at Dodger Stadium taking a bunch of pictures,
So it was just a question of where he was
gonna end up. I'm gonna go and it's not just
because you know, I'm a south side Chicago and the
Cubs were pretty disappointing a lot of expectations, and we
talked about the the lack of starting pitching moving around
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here at the deadline, But that was a clear and
obvious need to anybody looking at this squad. You've got
a bunch of heavy hitters, you've got some of the
great breakout players in Major League Baseball on the offensive side,
but you're light in starting pitching. So adding a utility
infielder and another guy to your bullpen and keeping pace
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with the Brewers.
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trade deadline losers. We got John Paul Morosi coming up
in about a half hour. But next, what team am
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