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December 2, 2025 41 mins

Jason Smith and Mike Harmon discussed that if you're the Bears right now, you got to be thinking about the Super Bowl. And that's not a hot take. It's mind-blowing, but not a hot take. NFL Insider Jason La Canfora joins the Monday madness. And Younghoe Koo, a professional kicker, completely MISSED the ball on a FG attempt!!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
Greetings, Welcome inside, Happy Monday, The Devin Williams Show with
my bas friend Devin Williams.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
We broken Mike Harmon. Now the Mets are gonna fix him.
We broke him with that Alonzo home run. Now we're
gonna build him back. And look, it's the home rehab
kind of clinic that Cohen's opening up saying, well, what's
upon a time this guy was a great closer.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
We broken.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
We can get him kind of cheap on a relative basis, Yeah,
right for what top dogs closers go for. And and
we can rebuild him bigger, faster, stronger like the six
million dollar man.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Listen in the sixteen a year. Yeah, it's our fault.
They hear this bad because Alonzo broke you with that
home run. Now now we'll fix you out.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
It's okay.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
Now, taking ownership and responsibility something everybody should look in
the mirror and maybe do for their own Damn cells,
recognize your part in things. High Lane, giffing all the
way through that that we run through for your mets.
It's a it's a big starts, so understand that. Hey,
if it's our fault, we will do you think they
played Coldplay fix you for you when they brought him

(01:36):
into sign Hey, the.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Giant boombox, Timmy trumpet.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Yeah, well, because it's not booked, it's not resigning Edwin Diaz,
it's getting the guy who will probably set up Edwin.
I find it very hard that he was booked. Wait,
he's got a very busy offseason. He's got he's got
to do new songs at some point. You can't just
keep living on Narco forever. You got have a new
song at some point. Yeah, it's not gonna be the
Dexias Midnight Runners of playing music for closers.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
I was gonna say you could have gone stronger and
brought in Chuck Mangioni and that I remember, Oh too soon, We're.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Not even two minutes into the show.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
Do you bring up the guy guy because I had
to go through my head, so I gotta I gotta
finish the line because it was like, let me look
him up.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
It's like, wow, I'm a terrible human being.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
But it's what happens when you go and watch a
bunch of King and the Hill reruns.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
He's in your brain for over forty years.

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Speaker 3 (02:45):
What I did just debate though, with the Devin Williams
signing was whether I should slow play it and wait
to see your reaction when Steve Disager had it at
his update.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Oh it was awesome. It was awesome. I'm excited.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
I was like, if I do that then you might explode.
I'm excited, and we have to just jump right off
into some other ramoms.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
I went into print things off. I came back to
here you just got Devin Williams. I'm like, wow, really
that fault only there was going to print something off
the computer. Yeah, it just happened. I'm like, wow, that's fantastic.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
Okay, then you immediately left the room and went and
started printing again.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
I went, so, so again, if the Mets sun any
more closers slash set up, then we'll bring it to you.
But tonight Monday night football again, I want to know
who was the executive that said, you know, we need
on Monday night football.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
They said this last spring, you know we need, we need,
we need the.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
Rebuilding Giants on a Monday night game in week thirteen. Yeah,
let's have that.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
They also said, seem that we don't really know how
good they're They also said, a rebuilding New England team.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
There's no way you thought that you got lucky. You
got lucky with New England.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
But who is that executive that's like, yeah, you know,
we got to put these craptastic.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
Teams on like week eleven, twelve, and thirteen. Let's hit
that sweet spot where you know people have holidays and things,
they're going, oh, we got to make sure we put
good teams on. No, no, no, let's put all the big
question marks and the teams that stink a Week eleven,
Week twelve, Week thirteen, I.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
Mean it is that.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
On the plus side, I mean you do have the
Patriots resplendent to those uniforms reminiscent of the Steve Grogan
era with Mike Vrabel rocking a mustache.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
That is the time period. No, the unis do look good. Now,
the the throwback unis do look good. I gotta say,
I enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
They remind you of Tom Brady kicking your ounds.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
No might No, actually remind me the eighties and and
and Grogan and uh and and and garn Varis and
beating us in the wildcard game in the early eighties.
Andre Tippett. No, that's what that's a reminds me of
Dray Tippitt. When I see these uniforms, I think of
Steve Grogan and Andre Tippet.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
Those are the two guys. I gotta dig that. Yeah,
that's it. But again, they look good. They look good.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
I know it looks clean. If you're gonna have they
also look really clean. Because the Giants haven't done a
lot of anything. If you're gonna give me a bad game,
at least give me one team that looks good in
their uniform doing It's like, I say, Okay, maybe it's
not as bad because they look good doing it.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
So all right, that's fine. That's that time of year.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
You keep waiting for the lower third to say you
can buy this uniform on the NFL shot.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
But we are the nine and a half minute mark
of the third quarter and the Patriots Giants game is
really close. If you have the Giants getting twenty three,
it is thirty to seven. It has been all New England.
Did you say thirty seven? From the in row? From
the jump? Tonight they have been dominating New York. Jackson
Dart looks alternately okay and get rusty. In his first

(05:32):
start back after concussion, nearly gets another one on a
big hit going out of bounds when he's got to
protect himself, and instead he tries to run towards the
stick for the first down and gets absolutely blown up
on his way out of bound. So that's on Jackson Dart.
But I mean, this game is going exactly how he
thought it was gonna go. Hey, New England's at home.
They do nothing but beat bad teams. I'm sure they'll

(05:52):
beat the Giants badly tonight, and that's what we're getting.
So it's this game is not a surprise.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
Another great example of just take care of the business,
don't play with your food, going obliterate them. When they
had that long protracted drive to start the game that
ended up with a field goal try, it's like, ah,
this could be interesting and then it wasn't. Uh, then
it got out of sorts really quickly. To your point,
Jackson Dart has had a couple of near misses putting

(06:18):
himself in harm's way to the point where that is
now the only talking point when the Giants are on
the field. Yeah, they're down big, what do they need
to do? But look, Jackson Jackson Dart is hands but
he needs to get down. He needs to protect himself
at this point, it's a drinking game. Protect himself. Yeah, yeah,
you know you have to.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
It's it's well, I mean really that's the It's like
it's like a mantra that Giants fans like where they
get taken over, like because you know, stranger things just
came out. It's like, you know, the the mind flayers
and Vechner are taking over people's minds and making them
just say things like Giants fans have been taken over
by whatever the vecna of the Giants would be, and
they're walking around going protect him, protect him, slide out

(06:57):
of bounds, protect him, protect him.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
You must protect.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
You have a little salty At the number of times
in my timeline I'm getting the here's the guy dressed
up as Vecna just sitting on a post or sitting
in a chair.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
It's like, come on, give me some of the magic.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
Let me keep some of my childlike wonder instead of
I'm waiting for this guy to start, you know, smoking
a heater.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
I gotta think, I gotta think of smoking a cigarette.
The ben Affleck posty ben Athlete is an outside I
do have to say, I do believe, and I may
be the first person to say this. I mean, I
wonder how much this version of Vecna is based on
Eddie from Iron Maiden, because it looks a lot like
Eddie from and Number of the Beast, like Vecna looks
a lot like it. Of course, that's the eighties and

(07:38):
in the middle of it the heyday for Iron Maiden.
I wonder how much I said, you know, let's make
Vecna look like Eddie. Do you think Bruce Dickinson starts
showing up? Tell you what Bruce Dickinson shows up. I'll
be wearing gold plate at Diapers. Never question Bruce Dickinson.
He walks onto the set and delivers that line and
immediately gets defeated. Is that what you're anticipating?

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Now?

Speaker 1 (07:58):
We do have to talk about one play this game
for the next few minutes, because it is that important
in the grand scheme of the final score of this game. No,
not that important in the grand scheme of Hey, we
have to talk about this play. We have to talk
about this. The Patriots are up seventeen nothing to start
this game. The field goal punt, touchdown, seventeen nothing, right,

(08:22):
Jackson Dart throws a touchdown pass, and now the Giants,
facing a fourth down from the Patriots thirty yard line,
are about to kick a field goal that would tie
or bring it to within one score, and all of
a sudden, the seventeen nothing Patriots lead is now seventeen
to ten, and you're thinking, wait a minute, the Giants
may have something. Here here's Jackson Dart rally around me.

(08:42):
I will see you, I will see you through hell,
and you think, okay, maybe this could become a game,
except this.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
Iron mate would be playing in the background as here
in the trooper.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Follow me to free.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
Six, six, the number of the beast hell and five ball.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
So Young Wayku is out there for a field goal,
forty five yard field goal. This is going to make
it a seventeen to ten game. Except this happened forty
seven yard try now by Young Way.

Speaker 4 (09:17):
Coo and he stumbled. Jellen gets swallowed up Patriots ball.
I don't think I've ever seen that. Look like his
foot right end of the turf.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
You're laughing at the poor gal. It's been that kind
of year.

Speaker 5 (09:36):
Here it is.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Troy Aikman hasn't seen it. I've never seen it.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Young Way who goes to kick the ball and he
simply kicks the ground about two feet behind the football.
Now you see this game, it's it's it's on a
great turf. There's no mud anywhere, there's no slipperiness, there's
no everything is it's perfect kicking condition. Again, I have
never seen as much as I love kicking field goals

(10:04):
before we played football, I loved I never did this.
This guy, this is a professional field goal kicker in
the NFL, and he goes in and he kicks two
feet behind the ball into the ground like he goes
in it like it's it's not like, well, he duffs
it a little bit and he kicked a little bit
behind the ball. He doesn't get it like he like,

(10:25):
I've hit golf shots like this where a man I
want to hit a couple of inches behind the ball.
But because you know, I'm a I'm a duffer, and
obviously I did duffer. Because I'm a duffer. He once
in a while you'll get that swing where a man
I hit about a foot behind the ball.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
But that's what this is.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
He he kicks and and he lands two feet behind
the football, and then the Giants have to pull it
up and run some kind of crazy ass run around
with the ball because it's not like he even got through.
It's not like he hit it and he brought it
through and it was low. The Giants call on this.
The play by play is even worse. They just thought
he got a block. Oh it's been blocked.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
No, No, he just he kicked two feet kicked the
ground two feet behind the ball.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
I'm gonna give me you do that.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
The Giant's crew credit then, because that meant they had
a really bad viewing point and they.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Were not watching it on a television right.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
That means they were end zone or something somewhere.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
So I was like, I must have been blocked. And
then they see the replay they say, what the hell
is that like?

Speaker 3 (11:21):
As he strides towards the ball and look, I'll be
the first to admit I don't usually look at the
footing of a guy until something's gone terribly wrong, right,
but where he ends up with his plant foot, he's
far ahead of the ball and realizes it and then
literally kicks a giant divot to use your golf thing

(11:43):
with his kicking leg and to where he gets nowhere
near the football. And obviously they're laughing about it in
the press box, but you, you and I were talking about
this before the show, was like, I don't think I've
seen this. And this guy's had a lot of bad
moments begin his His very first field goal for the
Chargers was a kick way too soon.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
He missed at the end and the Chargers thought he
made it and they set the cannon off like they
thought he they thought he you know, they they won
the game and he missed it. I mean, he's had
he's had moments too soon, James bringing memories. I'm sorry,
man to me, No, I don't need to hear the
butt fubble.

Speaker 5 (12:23):
That's fine.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
I don't need to hear that, going all the way
back to twenty seventeen for that one, then a long,
long career in Atlanta where he was fantastic, Yeah for
a good chunk of times.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
And then we have this play that will now become
the punctuation mark of what has been a disastrous effort.
You've got guys once again disciplinarian, uh kind of consequences
for Abdul Carter. You've got Jackson Dart just trying not
to get hurt. That's really the subplot of all Giants
games at this point. And then we're watching the Patriots

(12:55):
roll up, which I know is vexing for you. I
see you know what, Listen, you think that's bad. I've
seen this.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
I've seen the Patriots win super Bowls for the last
twenty years. It doesn't matter that it's Drake May and
Ramandre Stevenson and Trevion Anderson and Christian Gonzales. I've seen
that uniform with I'm okay if it happens. I've seen
it so many times.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
I will say this, though, you use this uniform and
we invoke the name of Grogan and others.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
How about a rematch forty years later what we're getting
right now? How about it?

Speaker 1 (13:21):
That's where home field advantage is getting right now.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Bears. Bears are the number one seed in the EDFC.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
I was waiting to see if we could do the
whole first segment before we brought that up.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
Well, only because of those great uniforms, and they bring
back such memories of well defenders terrorizing quarterbacks wearing such
Because there's a new documentary. I don't know if you
know this, there's another new documentary making of the Super
Bowl shuffle that in because we need Yeah, the sixty
nine Mets and the eighty five Bears, we need more
on that. We need we need more shows on it.

(13:52):
Those guys are still around and need money.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Or had they not let Buddy Ryan go, they probably
would have won back to them.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
Well, if those guys hadn't lifted him over their shoulders
and pissed Ditka off, Yeah, it might have been able.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
To run it back.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Yeah, I mean, first it was Buddy Ryan, then it
was Jerry new Heisel. You know, we pick up the
coordinator and carry him off. Every thirty years, history repeats itself,
so it goes exit at about of Fresco exit. Slowing
down The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon.
Patriots missed field goal, still thirty to seven, Patriots with
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(14:27):
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Speaker 3 (15:50):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon. Fourth quarter, getting set to get underway.
Still already to seven. Pay the damnel Patriots with the
lead over the Giants. New England's going to improve to
eleven and two. Start thinking about home field advantage of
the playoffs. Exactly how we thought this was gonna go chaos.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
Joining us down the hot line for more on this
and all the other big stories out of the NFL.
Longtime NFL Insider Odyssey one oh five seven The Fan
in Baltimore, Washington Post. He's on Twitter at Jason Locking
for It is Jason locking for what's happening?

Speaker 5 (16:28):
Man?

Speaker 1 (16:28):
How are you?

Speaker 5 (16:29):
What's going on? Gentlemen?

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Hello?

Speaker 1 (16:31):
You know this is another game that I don't think
anybody's really surprised by we're watching the Patriots beat the
crap out of the Giants, because this is what the
Patriots do. They beat bad football teams. But look, are
you believing in the Patriots? Are they really this good?
Do you really want to see more? Because I know
where are you with where they are right now?

Speaker 2 (16:49):
This season?

Speaker 5 (16:50):
Well, I mean, it's it's super impressive what they did.
It might not be the most blue chip laden roster
of the world, but they play. They put our asses
off collectively. There's a lot of belief there that manifests
itself in a lot of different ways. Mike Vrabels gets,

(17:13):
you know, even the public act is dig He gets
so much out of his teams, and he gets them
to believe they're capable of something of some things that
you and I and Vegas and a lot of people
with these season starts don't believe this is a team
that you know, we know what happened in Fox Prole
and to Brady at Belichick, they wanted a ridiculous rate.

(17:35):
They almost never trailed, Every tumble went their way, every
break went their way, like and then that place turned
into a house of hers when Brady left. And now
they've restored a home field advantage. This quarterback is super special.
And look, there's no great teams. I mean, this is

(17:56):
the worst version of the Chiefs we've seen since well
homes that we get together. Defending champs are finding ways
to create controversy at lay eggs and two ridiculous things
by the week. I don't know if there's any super teams.
I mean we all would have said the Rams that
we just saw what happened. So I can't discount the

(18:19):
Patriots like I can't say they've become frauds on the
playoffs time, like they're going to have home field advantage.
Might they come up a little small by the more
experienced team knock them all? Sure, but maybe not. They're

(18:44):
clearly one of the best teams in the NFL. And
if you want to define that as well as mostly
come against bad teams, well again that we can go
through every team's wins and losses, you're going to find
the supposed best teams all have a couple of losses
at daylable with that and probably don't have the high

(19:08):
end quality of wins that you would want from your
you know, foot running potential champion in a normal year.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
Yeah, I mean that's the larger point though, right, is
that you know who actually is good? You mentioned the Rams,
which would have been the leader in the clubhouse out
coming back this way. You also have Denver that escapes
on the two point. True, I bat it down nine
in a row. But you go through the laundry list
of wins there, there's not a lot of heavyweights.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
You just beat who's on the schedule.

Speaker 5 (19:39):
Yeah, I mean your career wins. Do you see what
happened in January? I mean I don't. I don't know,
Like we would probably say, right, like the bill's biggest
wins are the Ravens week flooded. We see the Ravens
are incredibly flown to you, and then they beat the Chiefs,

(19:59):
and well, chiefs don't beat anybody on the road, do
you know what I mean? So like if that's to
build's best ridds, well, okay, well how great are those lids?
You know what I mean? Like, what what is that?
What is being the Chiefs at home this year? Like
what does that really really need? Like I'm not sure
it means a whole lot, Like we can do the

(20:22):
same exercise, Like to me, the Bears and the Patriots
are front of the same deal with coaches have only
been there a couple of years, quarterbacks who've only been
there a couple of years exceeding expectations. Do we get
it away that you might say might pretend some some
regression in terms of all the fourth quarter stuff, that

(20:43):
all the turnovers and like delay was like never really
had to trail, like play from behind it all this year.
But you look at time spent leading time, spit trailing,
time spent with with with you know, even be guys
have never had to trail. So that begs questions. But
I don't think it means that they're absolutely fake that
they put the stream together two or three weeks in January.

(21:06):
I don't know. I'm he's putting a whole lot of
money on it, But I also don't think you can
discount it.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
Yeah, I want to.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
I want to thirty for thirty on how the hell
they lost to the Raiders week one, Like, I mean,
I want four hour How did this absolutely happen? How
did can this actually happen?

Speaker 5 (21:24):
Yeah, I don't know, I mean, yeah, at home, but
that was the start of the pet cat receive at
peaks Right then and day I mean that you don't
want to talk about, you want to talk about let
it all hang out right away, like, And that's how
Pete lives. He lives every day to the fullest. And
you know he reached the pinnacle of his Raiders coaching

(21:46):
career and his personal revenge game at Foxborough in the
middle of the summer. You know, it did, like early September.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
So yeah, that was great, got the best of everybody,
relieve them of their duties, and now move on.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
Man, that's how it goes.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Ja Jason Locking for our guests here Fox Sports Radio,
Jason Smith, Mike Carmon. All right, So now the Bears,
I mean, I don't know, you know what kind of
odds they were. If I could say, hey, by week thirteen,
I want the Bears as the number one seed.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
In the NFC.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
But I canna tell you, Jakes, if the Bear, if
the Chiefs were winning like the Bears, we'd make all
kinds of excuses for them. Look how they're pulling stuff
out at the end, complimentary football. But the Bears, it's like, ah, yeah,
that the Bear. The Bears are finding ways to do it.
And this is a pretty talented roster man. This is
like the era of good feeling now for Chicago.

Speaker 5 (22:33):
Yeah, and like I did, I do I see a
whole lot of all pro type players on the football team.
I really don't, but I love them with the like
kind of like like I said with the Patriots, and
maybe put Denver in that category as well. In terms
of the young quarterback, I don't. I don't know that

(22:57):
the Bears have a dominant defense that they are. They
have a dominant trade that dominant traders. They steal three
possessed me from you a game with the Turtles, that's
real for them. It keeps happening, so I can't say
that it won't happen again. Is it gonna happen next year?
I don't know. It's gonna happen in the playoffs. I

(23:18):
don't know, but a damn site keeps happening in the
regular season, and I don't think that's going a way.
So like, I don't know, guys, like this could be
a year like where it's truly wide open and there's
a bit of a changing to the guy and we

(23:41):
get you know, I don't know, Houston against Chicago at
the super Bowl or something like that, but it might
it might be out there. Man, it might be a
little bit bleep crazy. I think it has. It has
that sort of potential.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
Yeah, plus seventeen turnover differential right now. Now, Houston tied
with the Rams and Buccaneers at plus nine, uh for
second place in that category. But you mentioned Houston, and
all of a sudden we got a lot of intrigue
in the AFC South as Trevor Lawrence in his run
game have gotten things going.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
CJ.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
Stroud's back with the great defense, and then we still
have the Colts h and Daniel Jones's broken leg handicapped
the final four weeks.

Speaker 5 (24:25):
Well, look, I've been saying and writing in the post
for a long time that mumps division and going to
the playoffs, and the Colts aren't necessarily one of them.
Uh you know, yeah, you got the soft cargo thing
though he got Dago Zones playing with the broken shoulder
or whatever it is. You've had some certainly some regression
for them. You uh, you have like you got some

(24:51):
tough face games coming up. Jacksonville three is smoked the
Beers and I don't really like the quarterback, but they
want games. Do they have a signature with do they
have a dominant trait other than turnovers, even that has
plowed up since the beginning of the year. I don't

(25:11):
know that they do. I don't really think they have
a huge or discernible hopefield advantage. But like, could they
win that division? I think they absolutely could win that division. Yeah,
I like, I think used To could win that division.

(25:31):
I mean, I think Indianapolis could win that division. I mean,
I don't think three teams from that division are going
to the playoffs, but I guess that's full of mathematical probability,
like possibility. You know, Houston be beating Buffalo could turn
out to be a really significant tiebreaker. So yeah, I

(25:55):
mean I do dart any team there. I mean, at
various times this year, I've made the case for three
to four teams to win that division. The goodness is
one of them probably right with one of them, Tennessee.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
At some point, you got right about without one.

Speaker 5 (26:15):
Hundred percent, right, Jogi Bear would say, yeah, I got
a one hundred chance of being at least thirty three
percent right, Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
He's on Twitter at Jason lock and four. That's at
Jason lock and four. I want to bet one oh
five seven. The fan in Baltimore, Odessey, Washington Post Jay
is always buddy, appreciate.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
Your time, my friend. Enjoy that that win percentage air.
We'll talk to you next week.

Speaker 5 (26:38):
Yeah, let's get three more points of this football teer
game here, boys get let's get the over all, right.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
Jason, Yeah, Look, you know the main point is, Look,
you think about what we talked about the Patriots, and yes,
their schedule is incredibly easy. But when you look at Okay,
they've beaten some allegedly good teams. But that's the thing
is that there's nobody you can and say, well, this
team is a top everybody. What do we say last week?
There's nobody to believe in. The Rams are the only

(27:06):
team to believe it. And now the Rams let me down.
Like the Rams, come on, man, really you go.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
You were walking the beach trying to figure things out,
like reach, you go win to Carolina and let and
let Bryce Young well look like like like a Pro
Bowl quarterback against you, the best defense in the NFC.
Like there was one team to believe in last week.
Now there's no teams. There are no great teams, and
it's hard to measure one team's schedule against another because well,

(27:30):
how good of a win is this? How good of
a win is this? I just look at the Patriots
and go, wow, I feel like they had a five
week stretch of I think. I don't think the teams
have five total wins when they're playing, so it is
an easy schedule. But the flip side to give the
Patriots credit is I again, I don't know what teams
I can say right now.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
Yeah they're great, Yeah they're really really great. Yeah they're
even the Broncos great record, But how you need it
overtime to beat Marcus Mariota last night? I mean, come on, man,
really need a big stand on a two point play
to beat the Commanders?

Speaker 3 (27:58):
Come on, dude, immediately see the replay of how wide
open the running back and yeah, wide receiver did a
good job of picking off to guys like all he's
got to do is get the ball out over the
art stretched arm. But to that point, right, all the
young quarterbacks, all the teams and trying to parse it
all out, it's kind of like the college football landscape.
We're like, all right, this was a really good win

(28:21):
back in the second week of September. Now that team's
four and seven, How good a win, is it?

Speaker 5 (28:27):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (28:27):
Debate right, I mean, and we're doing that a lot
as we get ready for the next round of playoff
rankings and everything tomorrow. It's that same thing. It's like,
all right, is that really a quality win anymore?

Speaker 2 (28:38):
I don't know. It's difficult.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
I mean it you look and go, well, how you
can't do the transitive property? Look, they beat these three teams.
These three teams lost to these two teams. These two
teams lost. It's really there are there are zero teams,
and I really I feel like the Rams they let
me down. Now, I'm kind of pissed at the Rams.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
I mean on the plus side for the Patriots to
plus ninety two for the years. So generally they're curb
shopping when given an opportunity, won't you play bad? Team's
supposed to win? Well, that's us uh style. Time out
to find out what's trending in the wide world of sports.
So someone who's been called the Lane Kiffin of Fox
Sports Radio really day to day, we don't know where
he's going to be. It's Steve Desager, But I would

(29:16):
like to stay with this show until I go to
my new show.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
Did you Pray on It? Did you pray last night
to pray on it?

Speaker 7 (29:22):
Make their playoff coming up?

Speaker 2 (29:23):
Do? I?

Speaker 7 (29:24):
How about I leave and then I still get paid
for this show for the next few weeks.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
Okay, as long as you tell me how difficult a
decision it was for all.

Speaker 7 (29:32):
The people who didn't hear the people, the journalists who
got a hold of the contract. Lane Kiffen's new deal
with LSU. He's going to get bonus money for his
old team Old Miss advancing to the season's playoffs, and
then if they keep winning over the next month, he'll
keep getting more bonus money from the Old Miss victories. Also,
if his LSU club wins the national title, he'll automatically

(29:55):
become the nation's highest paid coach. And LSU, by the way,
still ow's former coach Brian Kelly over fifty million dollars
after firing him in October, it is still paying former
coach at Oorgeron as well.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
I need a thirty for thirty on.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
Does LSU have the most nil money of any team?
I mean, really, this is insane the money they're spending.
They're spending, but I thought the governor was getting it
under control.

Speaker 7 (30:18):
Right, right exactly. Let's believe the politicians. Yet again, if nil,
If you're talking about the image of the coaches, yes,
I go, it's going to somebody's image, not necessarily making
it onto the playing field. BYU head coach Kalate Sataki
is reportedly a candidate for the Penn State job. His
team is going to be in its conference final this weekend,
so you could guess that he doesn't really want to

(30:39):
hear much about that. Jason Smith, we have a Penn
State story, okay, and we have a UCLA story with
coaching as well.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
We want the Penn State story first. Okay.

Speaker 7 (30:47):
I mentioned Sataki and he reportedly has met with Penn State. Yes,
but he's trying to deflect this week. Obviously, They've got
a big game to play this weekend. UCLA's new football coach.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
Well, now, the big thing about this, though, is that
and with BYU with no no, Yeah, with with BYU
clearly with Satake, hoping this doesn't mushroom into something bigger
than it is.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
J Holy cow. If you thought that was good, wait
till this one coming up.

Speaker 7 (31:15):
Now, those are not served at the restaurants I attend chess.
For the record, UCLA's new coach will be Bob Chesney,
who will still coach James Madison this weekend in the
Sunbelt title game plus any playoff after that.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
TJ.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
Clearly the question for Chesney Kenny winn at his new school.

Speaker 7 (31:33):
Okay, I think we all got.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
That, TJ.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
When the sun goes down? Will Chesney be able to
get victories? Chesney saying, there goes my life at Westwood
for UCLA.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
Did you get a boys of fall equipping while you're
at it?

Speaker 3 (31:48):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (31:48):
They fallen enough this past fall. Kentucky fired coach Mark Stoops.
Anything there, that's that mean? That's the last name that's
asking for?

Speaker 2 (31:56):
Well, TJ.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
Clearly, Kentucky, he stooped as far as they could until
they had to make a change.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
He'd been there thirteen years.

Speaker 7 (32:05):
Over the last two seasons he went nine to fifteen,
including Saturday's forty one nothing loss at rival Louisville. Yeah,
there is a little money involved here as well. This
is a guy who this past year for the bad record,
earned nine million dollars and was signed until twenty thirty one,
so he still owed over thirty five million dollars. Jonathan

(32:25):
Smith was just fired by Michigan State yesterday Spartan's new
head football coach, Pat Fitzgerald X of Northwestern. By the way,
Texas A and M fell to number seven in the
new AP poll. For what it's worth, the new committee
rankings come out Tuesday, but with the A and M
loss this past Friday, Georgia is in the SEC title
game next Saturday, going back to Atlanta to pay to
face Alabama. Texas Tech will be against BYU in the

(32:48):
Big twelve title game. Fox TV this Saturday night has
number one Ohio State against number two ranked Indiana for
the Big Ten crown in Indianapolis. Now Miami is ranked
number twelve well, but Duke will be in the ACC
Championship game against Virginia. Go figure College Football selection Sunday, an.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
Eleven way tie, She's Duke make it to the ACC Championship.

Speaker 7 (33:11):
Seemingly half of the Mountain West Conference tied for first
as well, and they announced in advance we're just going
to the computers. We won't have humans involved in this.
Whatso mean?

Speaker 5 (33:20):
Really? Is it? That?

Speaker 1 (33:22):
Is it that tough for a tiebreaker? You have to
have foresight, You have to say, okay, new new situation
with the playoff, let's vote on it. Let's just make
sure the highest ranked teams are into the conference championship game?
Why why could we not do that?

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Why could we do?

Speaker 3 (33:35):
Like Texas breaker football. You meet at a gas station,
do you flip a coin?

Speaker 2 (33:39):
I can go for that.

Speaker 7 (33:40):
I can go for that too, the reference of computers.
Do we not all remember when Pete Carroll was coaching
a good team at USC about twenty years ago, and
they were ranked number one in both polls, but the
computers did not have them. In the BCS National Title Game,
the Mets gave reliever Devin Williams a three year deal
closer Edwin Diaz as a free agent. I assume you're
you're gonna have them both.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
Yes, of course, yes, And we may or may not
have Alonzo. If Devin Williams is I can't look at
that guy. The Mets will let him go. If it's
okay to bring him BA, they'll bring him back.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
Can he pitch?

Speaker 1 (34:11):
He's going to be the designated hitter if they bring
him back. Well, now let's get to the Monday night
football game. There's not been a lot to talk about here.
It was thirty to seven Patriots over the Giants at
the half. It's now thirty to fifteen. As yes, there's
been a two point conversion from Jackson Dart, who is
back started after missing time with a concussion. His two
point pass, he first scrambled around a literal distance of

(34:34):
over forty yards before he threw to the end zone successfully.
Thirty to fifteen were mid fourth quarter of this game,
but it's been a blowout. After the first quarter, it
was Patriots seventeen nothing, their largest lead at the end
of one in six years. For the Giants, their largest
deficit at the end of one in nearly twenty years.
By halftime, that Giant's deficit was their second largest ever

(34:58):
on a Monday Night football game. Before tonight, they've played
on Monday Night football seventy five times. There are three
late games in the NBA, including at the end of
one the Lakers at home tied with Phoenix thirty one
to zero. Luka Donsich in the first twelve minutes has
twenty points, eight of eleven from the floor. Meanwhile, Anthony
Davis twenty three points in his twenty two minutes, most

(35:20):
of that scoring in the first half. Dallas leads at
Denver ninety eight ninety seven. Late in the third Washington
was two and sixteen, but edge Milwaukee. The Clippers are
just awful this year five and sixteen. The record they
lost at Miami won forty to one, twenty three. Back
to you, thank you, Steve O. Coming up next, we
got the Play of the Day coming your way. And
you want a great, big hot take coming off of

(35:41):
this Monday night football game, we got it for you
next right here, Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
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Speaker 1 (35:55):
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Speaker 2 (36:00):
Thirty to fifteen.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
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six minutes left to go in the fourth quarter, and
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Speaker 4 (36:33):
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Speaker 2 (36:42):
I don't think I've ever seen that.

Speaker 4 (36:45):
Looked like he just stubbed his foot right into the turf.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Oh it's been that.

Speaker 4 (36:52):
Kind of year.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
There he is ESPN on the call, Joe Buck Troy Aikman,
you know, and you wonder and people start talking about
it online, some doctors like, is he gonna have some
kind of toe injury? Is he gonna have turf toe something?
Because he missed the ball by two feet he kicked
two feet behind the ball. Yeah, no, his posture as
he did his approach, like because his plant foot ends

(37:16):
up going out in front of the football and it's
almost like he realizes he missed strode in that initial
approach to the ball and straight into the ground and
then straight into the ground.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
Yeah, So like did he break his toe? Did he
stub his toes?

Speaker 3 (37:31):
Are we talking about a bigger foot injury that now
flows out of this And.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
That's a that's a that's a Jets play that happened
right there. That's like, oh yeah, this happened. You'd say,
oh yeah, New York team. No, we got folk hero man,
folk hero. You have young white coup. It's got two
feet behind the football, bad bad things man.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
It's a year when everything has gone wrong, mavers cert
and ripping the team and pulling down social media posts.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
You fired a coach.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
You talk about your quarterback in and out of the tent,
former coach going into tent to try to protect him
and look after him. You had a brief moment of
scatabo scatabo. How's were in a helmet playing video games
for crying out loud? Come on, now, I do have
one bit of good news for the Giants. You want
a big, hot take off, it's a night's game.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
I got one for you. This has not been his
greatest game, obviously. You know, fourteen out of nineteen he's
only thrown for one hundred yards. It's the Giants are
a bad football team and weapons are getting hurt all
the time. Tyrone Tracy just left the game with what
looked like it could have been a head injury on
a tackle. You've already said we've lost Malik neighbors. You
lost Scataboo. I mean you're still trying to make Darius

(38:37):
Slayton's going to be forty five years old, still catching
passes for the Giants.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
Hey, we got him.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
First round pick. Doesn't show up a lot of times. Yeah, you,
I've seen enough from him this year. The Giants will
have head coach TBA next year who will come in
with an offensive background. The Giants job is the best
job in football in the last three few years, because
you're coming in with an opportunity to seek seed. You
have a fresh slate that players need coming in, and

(39:04):
you have Dart. You'll have Neighbors coming back, Scatabu coming back,
great defensive line, hopefully get up Dual Carter to more games.
Have his first sack tonight, So congratulations. But I will
tell you this, I'll give you this bolt prediction. By
this time next year, by next December, we're talking about
Jackson Dart being one of the top five quarterbacks in
the NFL. You've seen him flash, you've seen him put
numbers up, You've seen him grab this team by the throat,

(39:26):
You've seen his leadership. I have no doubt in my mind.
By this time next year, full training camp with the starters,
full full season with his weapons. Again, watch out, He'll
be a top five quarterback in the end. He'll be
a consensus top five guy by this time.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Are they gonna have five offensive linemen that can keep
him up?

Speaker 5 (39:43):
Right?

Speaker 3 (39:44):
Will he change his style and approach? Because I know
that's what makes him special And this is where it's maddening.
We talk about quarterbacks and their ability to move and
elude defenders in the pocket, get to the edge and
make plays, and that's been fantastic a watch. I don't
trust that he's ever getting there by he's gonna be
that guy that could have been a top Look at you,

(40:04):
I'm saying this about a giant.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
I don't want this to happen, but it's going just
like it is.

Speaker 3 (40:09):
He's electric and he's fun as hell to watch. I
don't trust he's staying up.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
Yeah, but this is not for him where it's gonna
be hard for him to unlearn, like Cam Newton or
Kaepernick or RG three because his scrambling abilities. I scrambled
got out about this is not I'm Lamar Jackson' running
in the middle of the field and I gotta no
one to slide.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
This is this is more. Hey, just make the smarter,
Just make the smart. It's made a lot of dumb plays.
Go back. He used to do the thing like he
was Nelson Munch run down.

Speaker 5 (40:36):
It goes.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
I see that guy over there, I'm gonna go hit him.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
That's an easy enough thing for him to fix in
the offsea. I don't see this as being something that's
that big a deal. Plus a lot more weapons a personality,
have more weapons to make plays and and it'll be
a little bit don't have to do everything himself like
he's trying to do it.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
Whoever the new coaches has to say, you don't have
to pretend you're you're a linebacker.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
Lane Kiffin will get the best out of him next year.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
You watch, is he gonna talk to Marty Smith with
a violinist behind him?

Speaker 1 (41:00):
First, we get into the biggest college football story of
the year coming up next, Jason and Mike Fox
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