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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Greetings and welcome in.
Excited to be with you here, it's Fox Sports Radio
Mike Carmon alongside the Stinking Genius himself in for Jason Smith.
We got word yesterday in the way of a tweet

(00:46):
that Smith had made his way safely to the Greater
Detroit area and how he announced his arrival, the fact
that he was at a white castle at twelve fifteen
in the morning. There you go, one half hour after
a life in the Greater Detroit area. One of the
only people I've ever known to vacation in Detroit particularly well,

(01:07):
I guess it's summertime. Normally he goes holiday holiday holiday
visiting there. Why would you leave the beach for Detroit,
But you know what, summertime. Perhaps there's a little more,
maybe he's gonna go take in a Tiger's game. I
don't know, I don't really care at How about a
fresco where you find him? If you want to check
in there at Stink and Genius one is Arnie find
me over at Swollen Dome. Lots going on in the

(01:30):
greater sporting world. I was really getting ready to send
a bunch of really nasty eye kind of funny text
to my mom, you know, Cubs fan, even though she
still has now adopted the raise as another part of
her cheering section. Hey it is what it is. White
Sox were absolutely bludgeoning the Cubs, and it's like, ay,
we got to shut out going into the seventh and

(01:52):
all of a sudden, a three run barrage. And it's
not quite as fun once they get a crooked number
up there, but we'll celebrate it as we will over
the course of the show. We got so much going on.
We got the NFLPA with more chaos, just as we predicted.
The other day, I saw a couple of movies one
very late night as Happy Gilmour two came out, and

(02:16):
then I'm a Fantastic four nerd. I started a new
program outside of our sports world, Arnie. So we'll tease
that ahead where people can interact socially. There we got
linn O Messi a messy, messy situation. And then we've
got a strike. And no it's not the WNBA, it's

(02:38):
not Major League Baseball. No, it's the concession workers at
Fenway Park as the Dodgers come in for a big
series this weekend. Dodgers take the opener five to two.
Walker Bueller gets his ring before the game and everything else.
But they had striking workers all aroun around the facility.

(03:02):
Don't buy food, walking the picket line. You've got the
Ara mark, the concession vendor fighting with their union, and
the Red Sox going, hey, everything, we can tell you
it's not us, it's not on us, Bernie Sanders chiming
in respect the picket line the union posted. We know
ticks are expensive. We're not asking you to stay away

(03:24):
from the home games, but we're asking you not to
buy concessions. No purchase of pretzels, pickles or peanuts. How
many of those folks then set up stands outside and
still made some money, Like you know those mobile hot
dog carts that are everywhere here in Los Angeles.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yeah, that looked like a serious and by the way, hello,
how are you my?

Speaker 2 (03:42):
I'm great body. What's going on? Well? Here we got
four hours of pleasantries, towering me nine thousand times.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
We had four hours. I think that's going to wrap
up the show. So I'll beat to you next week.
Thank you for by the way, you threw me off.
I didn't know you were driving tonight, so but that's okay.
You'll never learn how to drive it unless you do it,
so I'm gonna let you go ahead and do that.
It's good to speak to ice.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
It's good to have a you know, a kindred smart
ass in the chair. You and I go way back.
I'm sorry, Arnie Spaniard. Do we have any trumpets or
anything for his arrival that we want? I got to
roll out of Red Cardiff.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
But I'm like, he's got to get to be right.
I mean we're I think this is our three now.
I I just had dinner disfter Steve Singer.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Look day, there you go his Royal Highness in side
Sunday night. It's alongside Chris Blank. He and I go
back a long way and these sporting highways in my ways.
He's he's honored to be in with me tonight. It's
our guy Arnie Spaniards.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
Fire a fire on the man here that all night long.
We've been hearing that for weeks. That's gonna drive me crazy.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
He's been buying that. That's got nothing to do with
you be on the show.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
Oh, I know, it's it's driving me batty. And it's
only been twice right now.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
It's one of the great drops that you've given us. Many.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
I saw I saw a Grateful Dead, uh cover band
my friend had not my friend. Some lady I met
invited me to our house.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
To wait for a waiver band.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
You gotta bet you want to get a stand up
bass player as you try to tell these stories death,
I hear you call me.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
Yeah exactly. This lady called my name in the parking lot.
I didn't know who she was, but she's like, hey,
you should come to our party. We're having a cover band.
It's Grateful Dead. So I told my wife and we
just kind of, you know, crashed. We didn't know anybody there,
but it was a good.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Did you throw the keys in the right bucket or what? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (05:45):
Yeah, there you go, there you go.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
You got to me a certain age. You go look
that up on the exactly and your inner wes and
what I'm talking about it.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
But yeah, hey, what's going on? I saw you like
thirty six topics today? What that's like an all time wreck?
Are we gonna get to every one of them?

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Model No, because a bunch of them are actually a
little dated in that I've been doing shows all weekdated
show no, No, No. The point is we're pretty good,
I think between Frostburg Alex when when Steve's in with
us last night, Dan Byer Moncy Belango sending with us
that we grab what's current and new, which means it

(06:22):
doesn't get toes date and see which way the wa
to that point. Seven of them we already did. There's
a couple that I'm I like our license with the FCC.
We know one of the principles and in some of
the notes that you sent me is very litigious. Resides
here in Los Angeles, doesn't show up when he says

(06:43):
he's supposed to show up at a pizza place. May
or may not be trying to force his way out
despite picking up a fifty two point six million dollar
player option. By declining it would have written made his
life a lot easier but instead it's look at me,
look at me, Hey, hey, look at me like I'm

(07:03):
going straight things and ten things I hate about you
say plenty of movie references over the course of the night,
but you know, the Lebron James stuff. It's fun to
kind of look at and weigh that. I mean, we
can talk about the team today today.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
It's changed actually today because Jeff Tigue walked it back.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
No, no, you can't walk that back. Well what no,
you can't. You can't under you might you might have
gotten threat of legal recourse. So you will issue a
public apology and you and walk it back and like that,
have that siren trug.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
If it's true, you can't sue, right, I mean, that's
that's a pretty good defense, at least I thought. I
think it's a good defense.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Well for those unaware Jeff Tigue implying that miss time
by Lebron James in the past. I mean, since you
know you're walking it there, we'll we'll go through it, uh,
implying shenanigans uh in terms of availability and in terms
of readiness to play and maybe supplements how do you
look that will dance around it that way, But and

(08:09):
then immediately within twenty four hours after backlash, and we
have seen litigiousness on the part of Clutch Sports and
Lac James that suddenly, oh, I you know, I was
just speaking off the cup. No, no, no, you knew exactly
what the hell you were doing. And it was only
when you got the call note, multiple notes, maybe a
courier that showed up with a you know, a nice

(08:32):
Manila envelope of stuff, that suddenly you're walking it back.
So yeah, you don't got that there. Whether whether you
want to believe stuff or not, I mean, that's up
to you the listening audience. You're an intelligent group of people,
and I'm not going to try to swear you one
way or another, Arnie. That's not what we're here to do.
In the end, I enjoy what's in between the white lines.

(08:54):
History will decide the rest of it.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
I don't care to be honest with you and talking
about all athletes, I'm not just talking about Lebron. What
supplements they're using, what they're putting in their body, what
they're trying to do to make themselves healthier, trying to
overcome and get back from some injury, a steroid, whatever
it is, whatever doctor says, if the doctor says, hey,

(09:17):
this is gonna make you heal faster, they put their
bodies through so much, Mike, and I don't think and
I'll speak for America, how about that. I don't think
Americans can care anymore. I don't think anybody sits back
right now and go look at that guy. He's a
running back. He's gotta be on steroids. Or look at
that baseball player. Look got what he home runs he has.

(09:38):
He's got to be on something. Nobody cares, Nobody thinks
about it anymore. Mike, It's not important. And like I said,
if you're gonna put your body through that much stuff,
you deserve to go ahead and heal as fast as
possible to get back to the field, and whatever doctor says,
do it. Then it's not like you're, you know, putting

(09:59):
you should put bad things in your body. These are
all healthy things and good things to make key heals.
So I just don't think people care anymore. That's why
maybe he's walking it back. Maybe it's because he was
gonna get sued. But I'm on the Bron's side on this.
I don't think anybody cares what he you know, he
should do whatever it is good for his body.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
All right, So he's hijacked the show once. Keep that
score count over there to saga. As we get through
the night, we'll have the we'll ring the bell each
and every time. I wanted to talk about labor strife,
instead we go down this twisted road. But no, I
mean yesterday, look, we commemorated the life and life and
times wrestling in particular and Master Thespian that of Hulk Hogan.

(10:43):
Tonight they did the big ten bell salute his part
of SmackDown. But to that point, plenty of stuff back
in the day with Hogan, uh and substances which mayor
you know, not just training, saying your prayers and eating
your vitamins, but a big thing. And there's plenty of
documentaries on it through it all in the ends, that
bridge between sports and entertainment and trying to figure out

(11:05):
where the lines are. And certainly we've seen we'll commemorate
the Hall of Fame inductions this week, and every year
it becomes the same question of all right, you leave
certain people out, and then you've got the other guys
who might have been better to the media or maybe
had a better reputation weren't a jerk and dismissive of

(11:26):
some questions in the clubhouse. They're the ones that get
left out. And then you've got a couple of other
guys that are like, well maybe, but hey they're in,
and you know they get voted in. And I think
you all immediately as I'm saying that, you get one, two,
maybe eight names of the last twenty years that suddenly
pop into your brain. But it's all to your point,

(11:48):
aren't you in the end, if it's going to get
a player back on the field and our all stars
are there and available, something we complain about ad nauseum,
particularly during the NBA season, that you know, there is
something to be said for what availability is the best
ability that.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
Our audience cares?

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Do you think our people think in general? Ashle And no,
I think I think there is. I think there is
to a point, right, you know, the sense of fair play, truth,
justice in the American way and all that. I'm watching
Superman in between all my baseball games here. But all
of that to say that you're you're trying to figure out,

(12:27):
you know, the quote level playing field, which, let's face it,
from day one, as soon as you put on a
pair of cleats, grab a bat whatever. Look science and
genealogy is you're already having problems there.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
There's no correlation.

Speaker 4 (12:45):
Day.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
Yeah, there's no correlation between you know, taking a steroid
and saying that you're gonna hit more home runs. Otherwise
everybody would be doing it, and a lot of people
were doing it. I just think now people just want
to see their favorite athletes, They want to see big
time athletes. The way to do that is, you know,
just keep yourself healthy. That's tough, man. You see what
these do football players go through. You used to what's like.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Football, nobody ever cared. Occasionally you'd have to nab somebody
who didn't followed the protocol right calendar, and they would
get popped or occasionally the wrong thing at the wrong time,
and you'd have, you know, the sacrificial lamb. But I
mean football, You know, I think we've all just kind

(13:29):
of shrugged and laughed at that for a long time.
I cast, why do you think we stopped texting testing?

Speaker 3 (13:34):
Why do you think we stopped testing from marijuana in
the NBA and in all sports?

Speaker 2 (13:37):
Huh, Well, it also got legalized in the vast majority
of states, so you know, to that end, it became
a wait, this is helping guys fight through their pains
and issues. Yeah, let's go. So yeah, not the topic
I was planning to start with. I was celebrating the
great American pastime in another way, but well we we

(13:58):
roped it back in with some Hall of fame and
with some of the chaos, uh and rumor conjecture speculation.
Uh so you ended up getting that in shoehorning that
topic into the show. So take the w There you
get your last one of the nights. Put you unnoticed, now, paal.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
Okay, there you go. I won't steer us into a
ditch anymore.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
And I'm watching the White Sox and the Cubs. One
of the great innovations of our time. Uh the White
Sox wearing what looked like bulls uniforms.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
Is that on the MLB network? Is that what you're
watching on?

Speaker 2 (14:34):
Ummm no, I think I think this one's just your normal.
There is the Apple Friday game. Was I think the
Phillies tonight? Jay got that one going for you, but
in which you know, again people complain, cough up a
buck or don't watch. Well, it's upon a time you
got like three games a week. Is that what it got?
The hell up?

Speaker 3 (14:53):
Is that what it caught? How much does it cost
from I don't even know.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
Apple is like one hundred bucks a year? Okay, Apple
plus and you get and you at shrinking? Yeah, well,
I mean that that is true. Your bunny ears thing
isn't gonna work. You know. It's part of the larger
move topic. I was trying trying to get to and
tease with you. Here is Arnie's on the move, So
we're gonna try to help his sports life along the way.

(15:16):
Hashtag fire on the Mountain at Fox Sports Radio at
Stinking Genius one. That's what we're doing for that as
we try to navigate that. But no, the White Sox
went and they found a nice hybrid of some of
their their colors and logos. Add to the bulls with
the black and the red, and you come up with
something that looks pretty pretty good. They also have a

(15:40):
promotion that I saw on ad for during this game,
White Sox twelve three lead here in the eighth Wedding
in a minute. Oh like an old Bill Veck promotions,
So you can apply to get your marriage done on
the mound in a minute.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
So during the change in a game that's aveck.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Dig Well, it screams you, and it screams our guy
Andy Furman back there in Cincinnati. We love some of
the stuff Andy used to do at the rest stating.
All right, we'll get back into strikes and some of
the chaos going around our world because we also reached
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(16:21):
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Speaker 2 (18:23):
Welcome back and Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith's Show with Me,
Mike Carmon, No Jason Smith Tonight, Hail to the King.
He wants to be greeted with fanfare and trumpets. It's
Arnie Spaniard at Stinking Genius One is where you find
him in the Twitter verse. Find me over at Swollen Dome.
Find the show at Fox Sports Radio hashtag fire on

(18:45):
the Mountain for the Arnie Move. We'll tell you what
that's all about coming up a little later on in
the show. But as we continue, we're here in the
Fox Sports Radio studios Arnie mobile me here in Los Angeles. Hey,
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(19:27):
the National Football League as training cancer underway. We'll get
to Arnie's Dolphins because he's got to have his say
about the slap fight and trying to, you know, get
guys you know you feel. Can we get you comfortable here?
Let's do some icebreaker sessions here to and Tyreek not
like you haven't played together for a couple of years.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
I don't know what that's all about, to be honest,
what's going on?

Speaker 6 (19:47):
Then?

Speaker 2 (19:47):
Well, Tyreek Hill was saying, I'm out of here and
I want to trade. What do you mean? What do
you you remember that? But finally, the last of the
first round holdouts as signed his deal earlier this week
with Lega. The quote from Mike Brown, and folks heard
that in all sorts of different ways to me, I
tried to pull back and go to business pragmatism. Of all, right,

(20:12):
if I am a business owner and I have a
guy who's unavailable to me, why should I still have
to guarantee a bunch of money seems kind of logical. Well,
today they found common ground. Stewart signs the deal that
includes said language. I would void future guarantees if he's
unavailable and breaks the terms of the contract and what's

(20:35):
been laid out in the CBA. Here's a new quote.
But what happens is he gets himself an extra half
a million dollars earlier in the process. And I think,
you know, commerheads prevail of all right, maybe it's it's
a little uncomfortable to have those conversations. Jerry Jones had, Hey,
if I'm signing a guy, how do I know he
not doesn't get hit by a bus. So both guys

(20:57):
just decided, well, you're gonna take that road. I'm gonna
take this road, and we'll meet where we meet. But
the deal that reaches out is that the Bengals adjust
the signing bonus payout, giving him an extra five hundred
thousand of his signing bonus now in exchange for having
that new language, which probably becomes more boiler plate once

(21:19):
it's enacted, and other teams will do the same again,
trying to make sure you have protections, and it's not
it's unfortunate that you have a guy that has to
become the poster boy, poster child, whatever term the player
that this gets identified with. But it's language that from
a again business pragmatism seems to make sense. And stay

(21:41):
out of trouble, you get your money.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
But well, you know what exactly the stay out of
trouble me And I'm gonna ask you that for a
full four year fully guaranteed. Like what would people say,
Just don't go to jail. Just don't go to jail
and you'll be fined. So let me get let me
just get this straight. Mike Carmon leaves his house, You
forget your U because you're running to the seven eleven.
You get to the seven eleven, you get pulled over.

(22:04):
You can't identify your sure because you don't have your wallet. Well,
if you can't identify yourself, you automatically get put in
the handcuffs. Right, you gotta go to you gotta go
to the local prews.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
Maybe I've I got a syrup ee tongue and then
you know, I could probably talk my way.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
You're not talking anything out. You're going to jail next thing.

Speaker 7 (22:22):
You know.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
You're in the local precinct. Just because you forgot your
wallet and you're on the seven eleven. I know it
doesn't sound like a big deal, but does that mean
you could no and void a contract because you semi
got arrested or you got to take it in.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
It's a little too much, and I think what the
Bengals were asking was just a little egregious. I'm glad
he got his deal. I'm glad he got the extra
half million. I'm got to get the four year guaranteed.
Remember when back in football, back in the day, forget
about guaranteeing anything, right, you remember the day.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
I mean that that is a very substantive change these
last couple of years, the size of gearanteed money when
we're talking about the top end players in the league,
but certainly the slotting system for rookies and coming in
the fact that you've only got one guy who isn't
signed in the second round and guess what, he's got
legal problems right right, So there you go in terms

(23:17):
of these processes. But certainly there are plenty of instances
and we'll get to the union stuff next hour sometime.
With all the chaos ensuing there, any grievances, etc. They
have enough people. I mean, they've got plenty of lawyers
on command, but anybody in leadership that's actually going to
be able to fight on their behalfs No, it's going
to get passed to the legal room completely because you've

(23:39):
got all of this chaos. But go back to Christian
Wilkins in the Raiders, right, he didn't want to have
another surgery. So what did Pete Carroll do? What Pete
Carroll does, All right, let's talk about this. You've got
a new front office and said, all right, if he's
not going to go through this process and this is
the course of action, we'll fight about it. Eventually he'll

(24:01):
probably get some more of that. I was gonna say,
point a few million dollars, but I.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
Don't think he's not gonna get any money. If you
think that you've heard the last of this year, no yourself.

Speaker 4 (24:09):
No.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
But it's also the type of thing where the teams
are looking to protect themselves, and in this case, he
missed all but five games a year ago, was probably
not going to be available anytime soon here, so it
becomes a hey, it's a sunk cost. Let's move on
and push into the next sphere and pay out what

(24:31):
we need to and eventually they'll go to an arbiter
and they'll they'll figure it out. But in the interim,
I mean, that's along the lines of what we're talking
about here with Stuart. It's just rarity. When you're starting
to get into the language of a rookie contract, those
have usually been pretty boilerplate. Sign on the dotted line.
Here's where that guy ahead of you, you know, signed for.

(24:52):
Here's what the two guys behind you signed for. And
we find ourselves somewhere nicely in the middle there. In
this case, now it became a little bit of fight
over language. And I think if it was a team
that wasn't the Bengals, it might have been met much differently.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
Right and by the way, taking a step backwards and
tell me you wouldn't if you know, if you're a fan,
if you can give this guy a shot or a
pill or something to get back and get over his
injuries like a steroid, you know, would anybody be against it.
There wouldn't be anybody against it. They'd say, fine, let's
do it. Let's get this guy back out there. Whether
you're a fan of his or not. I just want

(25:27):
to go in and throw that back in there because
that ties into what we're talking about in the first segment.
But you're right, look at least he got his four
year guaranteed. I'm happy about that. You know, sometimes I
think these contract negotiations is really about you know, ego
and the owners, thinking that.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
You've worked in media all these years and negotiated how
many contracts an ego?

Speaker 3 (25:50):
Yes, you know some of them. I'll never forget Mike,
some of them to this day. To this day, I
hold a grudge. I remember bad In, owner of one
of the networks, just him and I going at it,
and it still scars me today, to be honest with you,
because we didn't have agents back then, not for radio personalities.

(26:12):
We were doing the best weekend and you know, to
this day those negotiation and I'm not really much of
a guy that you know, stands by I'll cave in
on the extra money or something. But this guy just
got me going. And I can understand. You know, if
you don't have representation, it's got to suck. But I'm
glad at least got his four year guaranteed.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
To be well, the big thing right when you get
to the representation and look I'll do the full disclosure.
I don't have one, and I've certainly had plenty of
conversations where I remember phrases that have been thrown in
my general direction. And those folks out there know who
they are. It's the kind of area you smile and
you have to make your decision of you know what

(26:53):
you value and when you're going to pull out the proverbial.
Once upon a time in Hollywood flamethrower like Leo Dicapri,
George said things those most of the time, it's most
of the time, it's not. It's not what you want
to do. Now, what the agent's job is. They're the
one that softened the message, right, they get the harsh treatment,
they get the this is what your client isn't doing

(27:16):
quite as well as maybe you think they are in
terms of the number you're asking for. And then you
push from there when you're you're talking about the the
Bengals and and again Mike Brown might have raise his
hand on on conference calls or at the local club
as they're taking a you know, it's taking a steam
and just said, well, everybody hates me anyway, so I'll
be the old guy, right. I mean, look, he's already

(27:39):
been accused of everything and I use the term frugal, uh,
you know, but being cheap and what he's done through
the years running that organization, even though he's paid now
the wide receivers and now.

Speaker 7 (27:52):
Studid you know what ext but because of but because
of the age of a guy that once upon a time,
I'm guaranteed money didn't exist at all.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Right, right, all right, here's your signing bonus when you
first sign your deal. That's it.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
And then you know all the logistics and hurdles to
get have people try to fight. I mean, how many
times did Al Davis have coaches suing him because he
fired and you want to cut a check? Right, But
for players now it's a different world. You've got more
power going back to college and all the way through
to where those guarantees. Even for folks coming into the
league now you don't get the Sam Bradford forty million

(28:30):
dollar check like you did once upon a time that
everybody fought and in the veterans you know, got some
more power in that regard. But in terms of these
signing bonuses, uh, and guarantees as a higher percentage of
the contracts, I'm sure owners that have been around a while,
they're not too keen on that. So wherever they can

(28:50):
still try to rest some level of power, they're going
to do it.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
You know, I know everything's slotted now, but I'm just
interested now that college athletes get nia. So they're not
coming into the at least the good players, the first
round players are not coming into the NFL absolutely broke.
They're coming in with millions of dollars perhaps there, you
know what I mean, Mike, I'm wondering if that helps
the NFL and negotiations where these guys are not so

(29:15):
desperate for money that they're like, Okay, you know, we
don't care about this year being guaranteed or you know
this extra boat.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
No, I think it absolutely works the other way. Oh well,
because as a group, assuming they want to go down
this path and owing back to the story.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
That they won't trumble, they won't.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
Trumble, right because they then they can fight about language
like this perhaps a little bit more I don't know,
to enact this as a group. Maybe as a group
they go, hey, you know what, I can I can
wait this out and we can fight this a little
more the.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
Way Mike, if I if I want a five year guaranteed,
and they said, we'll give you a four year if
we're separated by twenty thousand. I'm like, ah, you know
I got money from the nil. I'm okay, I'll be fine.
I'm thinking about it the other way. You may be right,
but I have the other way.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
It thinks, Well, it's how you approach it, though, right
is the all right, I'm a year faster towards free agency,
right in your case, right, if it's four years versus five.
But you know, if it's guaranteed money, then I may
want that fifth year, particularly if I'm at a position
where the attrition, like a running back or such is
pretty high. But as a group, perhaps this is where

(30:27):
you have, you know, one of the few times where
you'd have a group of players truly unified. Because what
we have with the PA, which is part of the
substant problems that they have, is the large strata between
a sixty million dollars a year quarterback and you know,
half of your roster that's making near to nothing. Well,
but you know what I mean, like where where that

(30:48):
you have such a divide that you're not fighting for
the same things, right, right? The people that project to
a fifteen year career versus we see that tail it
is very long. We could do that whole average three
and a half year nonsense that people love to do.
The reality is so many guys passed through get a

(31:08):
cup of coffee. What do they get for their efforts? Well,
they get a couple of nice checks maybe along the way,
maybe they get to bounce around a little bit, and
they collect a couple of helmets and jerseys. Beyond that,
they're not guaranteed a whole lot of any Well.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
No, they at least they get healthcare. Now, you can
remember the day where they wouldn't even get healthcare. They
were they were fighting for that out there.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
They're still fighting for a lot of that. You're at
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(31:49):
Learn more at UMGC dot edu. Here with everything across
the sporting landscape, including that resplendent white Sox squad with
the heightened uniforms is our guy, Steve Desager, and.

Speaker 6 (32:04):
My goodness, it was eleven nothing White Sox over the Cubs.
Final score is twelve five against the Cubs, and it
was All Star show. Te Minaugas seven and three on
the mound now seven and four for the Cubs. He
pitched three innings, allowed the first seven runs, twelve hits,
three home runs. Meanwhile, there's a guy on the A's
by himself. He has three home runs tonight, rookie Nick Kurtz,

(32:28):
and the A's lead eleven to two at Houston going
to the bottom of the eighth. Houston is the first
place team in the AOS five games over the Mariners.
But Kurtz, in his first sixty six career games, has
forty two extra base hits. Wow, tied for second old
time with Ted Williams. Joe DiMaggio number one in great
starts on that list. Also in progress, Rangers four to

(32:50):
one over the Braves in the bottom of the eighth.
Angels lead Seattle in the fourth two to one, and
the Mets are out to a two to one lead
at the Giants. Everything else is final. Cleveland at Kansas
City rained out doubleheader on Saturday. Minnesota won nothing winners
against Washington, each team had just three hits. Arizona won
nothing at Pittsburgh in eleven innings. The Pirates offense went

(33:13):
one for thirty three. In fact, the Diamondbacks, according to
statsaing the only major league team in the modern era,
to win a game one nothing in eleven innings or
more while allowing only one hit or less. Miami beat
Milwaukee five to one today. Philadelphia got two more homers
from Kyle Schwarber. He has thirty six. Phillies won at
the Yankees twelve to five. Colorado gave up four early

(33:36):
solo homers at Baltimore and still beat the Orioles six
to five. Wins for Toronto and Cincinnati. Saint Louis shut
out the Padres three nothing, and the Dodgers won five
to two at Boston. Taoscar Hernandez a home run and
three RBIs. Dodger alfielder Mookie Betts exit Boston was out
for personal reasons. The Dodgers in the NLS, now six

(33:57):
games up on the Padres. The Bengals did sign first
round pass rusher Schamar Stewart. Vikings wide receiver Justin Jefferson
will miss part of camp with a strain hamstring said
to be mild. The Falcon side wide receiver DJ Shark
Atlanta wide out Darnell Moody will miss a few weeks
with a bad shoulder. Quarterback Justin Fields, now with the Jets,
did not practice today due to a dislocated toe. Browns

(34:20):
linebacker Jordan Hicks retired, and at least one hundred NFL
players face fines for scalping their tickets to the last
Super Bowl, according to ESPN. In the WNBA. Among the
three games, Minnesota won again the Links twenty two to four.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
Undefeated.

Speaker 6 (34:35):
At home, they beat Las Vegas one oh nine seventy
eight and at New York Sabrinaganescu twenty nine points in
a liberty win against Phoenix eighty nine to seventy six.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
Final notes.

Speaker 6 (34:45):
MLS Miami's Leono Messi was suspended one game Tomorrow's for
missing the MLS All Star Game last Wednesday, as was
teammate Jordi Alba. Back team, We're gonna stay with that.
When a league can't get out of its own way,
the team which belongs to the league says, no, we
told them to take the time off. You're scheduling us

(35:06):
for so many games.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
Immediacy we talk about with the WNBA all the time
and the newness of it all. MLS been around a minute,
Still don't know how to handle a little bit of
success and positivity. Steve Disager at the News desk, I
would be remiss. The left side strong side Avon Barksdale
from the wire, and of course remember the Titans Wood

(35:31):
Harris throughout the first pitch in that white Sox uniform.
So they took strongside and beat the hell out of
the Cubs twelve five your final coming up next, we
do turn to the MLS. Yeah, the rare MLS story
because Lionel Messi kind of a big deal and telling
him he's got to take his ball and go home
for a game might be one of the dumbest things

(35:52):
we've heard in sometime. We'll tell you why. Next Here
on Fox he's Arnie in for Jason, A Mike and Thanks.
Be sure to catch live edition and so of The
Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern,
seven pm Pacific. Welcome back in Fox Sports Radio Jason
Smith Show with Me Mike Harmon. No Jason Smith. He'll
be back mid next week in with me tonight, our

(36:14):
body the stinking genius himself, arn'tie Spander. You hear him
Sunday nights alongside Chris playing eight to eleven Pacific time
here on Fox Sports Radio. Yes, as they have a
long standing battle on the airwaves, and you can hear
them bicker twelve years now plan how about that?

Speaker 3 (36:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (36:32):
What'd you get them for the anniversary?

Speaker 3 (36:34):
And i' you know, the funny part is I've never
met Chris Plank. I've never ever ever met him face.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
The Well, it's good that you both have really put
an effort into forging the next step of your relationship.

Speaker 3 (36:45):
Thank you, thank you.

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(37:08):
liked when I said eleven o'clock Pacific and sounded like
it was much earlier, as opposed to you know, one
o'clock Oklahoma time. Now, Steve had it in his news
items there, little MESSI one of the games all time Great.
You want to talk about chaos, you know, I love
my sports cards and collectible. Little controversy over some of

(37:29):
the signatures that have shown up in product as to
you know, whether he or someone close to him signed
some of the stuff. But that's neither here or there
for this argument. It's about the MLS All Star Game
and participation thereof Well, MESSI told by the team, told
by Miami, you don't have to do any of that stuff.

(37:51):
Go home, you and and Jordi Alba, I think you
should just take some time to heal. See. I got
our Darren Waller while I was at it. But they've
now been suspended for a game because of their lack
of receiving permission or feigning injury and just saying, you

(38:14):
know what, we need a little time away, a little
time in the hectic pace and the schedule that's been
out here. You've got to fatigue, which has been an
issue across the league. We watch guys, you know, some
of their time on field has been cut, getting substituted
for earlier you hit that part of the schedule. Baseball,

(38:35):
it's always hey, the dog days of August, we're suddenly
an extra day off here during a challenging portion of
the schedule where you don't have the scheduled day off
and you don't necessarily get the travel day. Sometimes that
suddenly it becomes that guy just needs it and needs
a breather. It's like, is he hurt? No, so sorry,
little Johnny and Susie in the third deck don't get

(38:56):
to see him. But a way you go. The commissioner said, well,
I knowledge, you know, the commitment to enter Miami and
the demanding schedule, but for now, you you got to
sit this game out. We'll look at it going forward,
but you've got to sit this game. You got to
get out of your own way here, right.

Speaker 3 (39:14):
I'm with do do you think he should not have
gotten one game?

Speaker 2 (39:16):
I don't think he should have gotten suspended. In the end,
they all start with different people, right, isn't that the
way life works?

Speaker 3 (39:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (39:23):
But isn't that the way life works?

Speaker 3 (39:25):
No?

Speaker 2 (39:25):
Hardy, I mean, you got what's more important that he
comes out and he and he kisses the ass of
some sponsors at the at the All Star Game and
waves his little hand game.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
I thought there were fans of the game. That's my battle.

Speaker 6 (39:38):
No.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
But but again, if he goes out there and he
plays five minutes and then sits down, what's worse? Is that? Great?
I got to see him on the field and take
a picture.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
Now, I not if you go ahead and go, you know,
take pictures with the fans, sign autographs. I don't, you know,
Mike too many times, and whether it's in soccer or
you know, I don't know how many times it happens there.
But whether it's in the NBA with load management or
just the attitude of players in the NFL, you know,
give back to the fans. They pay a lot of money, man, Relax,

(40:09):
you know, a lot of money comes out of their pocket,
and people are not rich. They spend that money to
go ahead and enjoy the experience and to see their
favorite players. At least give back a little bit, you
know what I mean? A little bit that you've been
able to enjoy such a luxury life because of what
these fans have given them to your sports.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
I have no problem with that. I just say on
the larger scale, the fact that we call the guys
to task and in the end you can talk about
scheduling and look, I get it. The NBA, it's the
long standing. Hey, this guy only comes into town once
a year. It's unfortunate, but in the end, you're paying
for laundry. Now, you could go in and talk about

(40:49):
fraudulent advertising practices. If suddenly it's a hey, here's your
only shot to see Lebron James, come in and see him.
I used him. I had partial season ticket package for
the Lakers. No, no, no, I had it a few
years ago when towards the end of Kobe Bryants run,
I saw him in a suit twice. Those were the

(41:10):
two of the six games. The other four games he
didn't even come to the arena. Yet. I complain about
no because I knew the risk that that was what
he was doing. So you get over it, right, and
in the end, you make your choices with your money,
and sometimes you lose, you know.

Speaker 3 (41:24):
I wish athletes would be more cognizant about the fans nowadays.
They were back twenty thirty years ago.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
They had no power, Arnie what they had no power,
So it became the you have to play.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
You're one hundred percent right. They had no power back then.
Now it's like, we'll take a little management and the
fans are not as as important as television rights.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
Well, but it all plays together. Who's he beholden to
a playing in an All Star game or being available
for Inner Miami being available for Inner Miami. So the
extra days off probably helped. Hey a ticket scale handle.
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