September 2, 2025 • 41 mins
Jason Smith and Steve DreSaegher are reacting LIVE to Bill Belichicks UNC debut. Lots of NFL greatness with longtime Insider Jason La Canfora. And why Arch Manning's debut was all Jason’s fault!
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One day, one of my grandchildren's gonna come to me
and say, Grandpa, what was Bill Belichick's debut for North Carolina?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Like?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
And I'm gonna say, well, you mean the first drive
or the entirety of the game and there's a difference.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Your response is gonna be, well, let me tell you,
son about one of the great coaches in New York
Jets history.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
Do you have enough time.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Game one at North Carolina. He's already lost more games
than he did as the Jet said, coach, just to
let you know, ut, whoo uh to go, Marv albert
on you not exactly what Bill Belichick had in mind.
Right now, early in the third quarter, and I mean
thirteen and a half to go in the third quarter,
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TCU has rebounded from what was a really great first
drive of the game for North Carolina. You really we'll
have to spend a lot of time that I'm talking
about that first drive from North Carolina when they were
gonna be in the playoff and they were gonna be
undefeated and Belichick was gonna jump back to the NFL,
And I mean, it was that great since North Carolina
started out up seven to nothing. First drive of the game,
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touchdown run by Caleb Hood Hey, fantastic, right. They panned
out to Jordan Hudson and Randy Moss and Michael Jordan,
all the great Broy Williams, all the great North Carolina
luminaries are there. Yeah, TCU has now outscored North Carolina
twenty seven to nothing in that span, including first drive
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of the second half, North Carolina down twenty to Seveniforian
Barnes takes the hand off, goes right and goes seventy
five yards for a touchdown to give the horn Frogs
a twenty seven to seven lead over North Carolina.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
In other words, after that great opening drive, even including that,
it's only four first downs for the night for the
tar Heels offense and they have yet to convert on
third down, zero for six right.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Now, Yeah, this is what's called adjusting. After the opening
drive is Okay, we know what they can do. Okay,
this next drive is gonna be better. And boy, it
has been a clinic now to to go realistic things
and tell you about stuff. Look reacting to this game
in real time. Now, this is not that surprising, Okay,
to just stop for I mean, I know, because because
it's Belichick. We'll get to the attention and how big
(03:13):
a deal Belichick is. But this result is not that surprising. Okay,
you watched tc This is the team that was when
a hair's breadth of getting to the college football playoff
last year. Right, Josh Hoover is a really good quarterback.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Man.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
He's making NFL throws. They're running all over North Carolina.
This was an eight win team last year that was again,
was that close to making the playoff.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
Nine the bowl game, Yeah, you gotta talk about the ball.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
The bowl games are tough those teams because you know,
I can't really say, hey, what a bowl game, because
it's like, yeah, sometimes teams only show up with like
eight players for bowl games. You know, that's the whole thing.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
But it was in the street.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
As we talked about last week, it was an extremely
competitive conference that they were in last year. Yes, and
yes they were one of those contenders. Yeah, and favorite
on the road correct if for tonight.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Yes they were, they were. Look there, TCU is a
good team, right, they're a good team. This is a
North Carolina team that honestly is starting over. They were
a five hundred team last year. They lose A Murray
and Hampton to the NFL. And of course, you know
the season he had if you do fantasy football, he's
been a guy on everybody's lips for the past couple
of months. He was fantastic at North Carolina, last year.
(04:23):
This is a North Carolina team that Belichick comes in
a lot of questions. The recruiting had been going okay, right,
Like he's getting the guys he's supposed to get, he's
getting the you know, the four star guys.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
He got his quarterback that we're seeing tonight after spring ball.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, proving that Hey, I'm still gonna
do stuff like I did it in New England and
maybe it doesn't work. But the big thing, the big
question is not, Hey, is this surprising for Belichick because again,
North Carolina opening at home? Yeah, you never know, because
college football is that is that kind of a sport.
Let's just just ask Alabama. But seeing this happen, I'm
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not as surprised. Like I am more surprised at arch
Manning's bad and horrible weekend, which we'll get to in
a little bit. I am much more surprised at that
it is it is. It is my fault. Hey, Now,
Ohio State loves me, even though even though my wife
went to Michigan. Ohio State loves me because we curs
to arch Manning. But I'm much more surprised at arch
Manning than I am at this simply because yes, TCU
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is good. But it's like, because North Carolina has become
and this is the big thing, is that no matter
what kind of season they have, the attention on North
Carolina it is going to mirror in every way, shape
and form what twenty twenty three was like for Colorado.
Deon Sanders shows up. It's a really big deal. Here
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comes a legend. Yes, you know, a little bit different
path for Dion than Belichick because Dion goes Hall of Fame. Hey,
I'm coaching at FCS and I'm still in outsized personality,
was on NFL network for a long time. He jumps
to Colorado very brash, very arrogant, very we're gonna come
kick your ass, and all of a sudden that became
the story, Like that sucked up all the auction he
(06:03):
brought in, all kinds of of luminaries himself, right, all
kinds of legends declan to want to be his coaches,
and Warren sapp wants to coach, and there's all kinds
of attention for Deon Sanders in Colorado and it's come
beat us and it's very polarizing, but the attention on
Colorado is it was the deal, right, It was the
it was the thing, and all the way through September October,
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they became must see games. Didn't matter that they were losing.
They became must see games because of everything that went
along with Dion and Shadoor and Travis Hunter and how
good he was. Right, they jumped onto the on the
onto the scene. In a second, it's the same thing
here at North Carolina. Here's Bill Belichick. Wait a minute,
this is Belichick. Cut This cuts through the clutter again,
different journey fro him to get to college football, but
(06:45):
still the same thing. You see all the celebrities that
are here at the game. He was the dominant story
in college football in the offseason, Belichick going to North Carolina,
Arch Manning of Texas right one two one two one two,
and you see tonight and the pageantry that's gone along
with this game. The only thing that rivaled it was
Texas and Ohio State Saturday because of arch Manning and
his big quote debut this time as Texas's starting quarterback.
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So yeah, win or lose for North Carolina. This is
the story all year. Because this story becomes hey will
Bill Belichick win? To what becomes more interesting, which is
if he doesn't win, how long does Belichick have to
get it right? Because of the entire drama of the
off season with Jordan Hudson and the negative attention around
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North Carolina football, they finally did the right thing and
they got it right in the off season by saying, okay,
no more interviews were staying away from this, and for
most of the summer the Jordan Hudson Bill Belichick drama
went away, but still it was really difficult. A lot
of negative attention brought to North Carolina. So the thing is,
if Carolina doesn't win, how long does Belichick have right
to really? Does he have more than a season? If
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he are recruit's gonna say I'm not going there, man,
that's just gonna blow up in a year like that
becomes the question. And here this game to night in
which TCU is up twenty seven to seven, throwing the
football all over the field and not driving again for
what could be another score. That's kind of where you
could be going just in one night for Bill Belichick.
From Wow, first drive of the game was we're going
(08:13):
to the playoff and now it's hey, how long does
he have to get it right before he's out? Like that?
That's how fast things change in college football.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
And also we brought up the North Carolina schedule last week. Yes,
they have a high profile game in that the NFL
hasn't started, and this is the loan game on the
docket for this Monday night to finish up the first
big weekend of college football.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
It's two unranked teams. Let's be honest, but they're getting rolled.
A loss by.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
North Carolina would not at all have surprised me, but
to be down twenty right after halftime, and the way
they have done nothing on offense after the opening drive.
They have twenty five yards of offense since that opening
drive touchdown where they went straight down the field and
went up seven to nothing. They're down twenty seven to seven.
That schedule that North Carolina had, Fortunately for them, they
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play almost nobody outside of Clemson for the next couple
of months. They have time to get it right and
do all the teaching that he wants to do. The
odd thing that you brought up the parallels with Colorado,
the attention there is that you had the high profile
coach with the NFL name and his son as the quarterback.
Here you have the high profile coach with the NFL name.
(09:24):
His son is the defensive coordinator that's getting rolled tonight.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Yeah, I mean, this is it's just just chunk yardage
since the second half started, It's chunk yardage on every
play for TCU. Like this is becoming a stat game
for them, right like this. I mean they just had
they just had had a quick out that got inside
the twenty yard line. But it looks like there's a
holding penalty. It's gonna bring it back.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
It's still They're gonna get close to four hundred yards
in three quarters.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
This is Yeah, this looks like Bill Belichick at the
end in New England, Like when he's on the sideline
with the big with the with the face with the mask,
the big wool mass. It just shows his eyes and
he's los to the Jets the final game of his career,
going okay, this is.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
I'm actually there is a parallel there too, because in
that case with the Patriots and in this case with
North Carolina, he was the general manager of the roster.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
How's it going?
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Yeah, Oh yeah, I mean look and and and that's
the and that's the whole thing with the drama of
Belichick and again, how things change in just a couple
of quarters here is that. You know, people forget that
the off season for North Carolina was really rough, right,
it was every day there were stories about Belichick and
Jordan Hudson and what kind of uh what us?
Speaker 5 (10:32):
By the way, not a recruit for those.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
No, yes, girlfriend, Jordan Hudson at the game, at the game,
by the way. Uh, you know, I can't believe that
Jordan Hudson hasn't found a way to do something where hey,
you only photograph me next to Michael Jordan, like the
two Jordan's right, the two Jets. It the two Jordans,
and you credit me first.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
And not Lawrence Taylor. Let's be honest. Transfer, I believe
is what the property is called.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
No transit. And and hey listen, you right, and you
font on that screen, the two Jordans, and you spell
Jordan the way I spell my name, not how he
spells his. Right, you say air Jordan, it's h E
I R j O R d O N. That's what
we want right there.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
And Billy Williams was there, and mea Ham who played
at North Carolina was there. I mean, this was a big,
big night for the campus and to have that kind
of first drive you're not kidding. I mean it's a
little bit of hyperboleon joking along, like, hey, the season
might be just like this. I'm sure that's what some
people thought in the crowd after seeing that first drive,
and it.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Said it's more like Jack Nicholson and as good as
it gets. Where he turned when he says to Helen Hunt,
what if this is as good as it gets?
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Right at this moment said, also, according Jack Nicholson, wait
till they get a load of me.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
I almost if Belichick could do it over again. After
that first drive in a touchdown, he goes out to midfield.
He waves to the crowd, takes his headset off and
leaves the field and says, that's the goodbye. It was like,
oh my goodness, it was so great. It was so great, and.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Then writes down on a piece of paper, I am
resign the New York Jets, the North Carolina tar Heels.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
It would be I resign as hc of U NC.
It would be just like that, really, But like that
becomes the thing now, is that you know, you forget
you have to win, right with all the patent you know,
the comparisons with deon Compete and North Carolina. Right, Dion
didn't win the first year, but you remember he was
coming in taking over a program that was basically a
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one win for franchise.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
And offensive line.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Yeah, North Carolina is a mid you know already was
a mid acc program, right, they they were kind of mid.
So when when Dion takes over and the first year, okay,
they only win a handful of games, but it's excitement,
it's more wins. It's you know, we have our quarterback.
We have a superstar coming back next year in Travis Hunter. Okay.
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And then Colorado went last year and won a little
bit more and one a little bit more to say, Okay,
we're building on stuff now, all right, I get it. Okay,
so year three, now there's excitement for it. Now. You
look at Belichick and he comes in year one and
it's a mid program. And if they're still mid or
they're worse, Like, this is not a This is not
a one to ten team or one eleven team. This
is a six and six, six and seventeen from last year,
(13:14):
it's a mid program. If this program stays mid or
doesn't win, like I mean it, like, what how much
time does he have? Like that's that's the weird weird
because of everything that goes along with the drama of
having Belichick come in.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
And anybody who gets hired in his seventies elsewhere, that
is a legitimate question.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
How much time does he have win or lose by
any way, And they weren't quite mid in.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
The conference standings, you know, the ACC like all the
other college conferences. I believe they have eighteen teams in
each league. Now, North Carolina was not middle of the pack.
They were better than Callen Stanford in the ACC. Yes,
those are ACC schools. Yeah, and Florida State was dead
last as we know last year, but most of the
conference was better than UNC last year. They are starting
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at the bottom, it appears this year.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
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name coming up. Yeah, still a twenty seven to seven
lead for TCU on North Carolina, TCU knocking on the door.
They just got a big first down inside the twenty
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Speaker 1 (16:10):
Fox Sports Radio. The Chase and Smith Show is Steve
de Sega in from Mike Harmon and I would like
to tell you that this North Carolina TCU game has
gotten closer. I said, I'd like to tell you, but
I can't. A scoop and score. Geo Lopez is sacked
a fumble return for a touchdown. Fans are streaming to
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the exits now as TCU leads North Carolina forty to
seven extra point pending with seven minutes to go in
the third quarter. A night that began with all sorts
of pageantry, now it's an absolute blowout. Lopez is being
looked at on the sideline right now. He is hit
from behind, fumble the scoop and score again. Now a
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forty one to seven lead for TCU over Bill Belichick
and North Carolina. More this game coming up with a bit.
But a guy that I know wants to get in
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Lock and for it is Jason Lock and for it Jay.
What's happening, man?
Speaker 3 (17:19):
How are you well? I'm doing better than Bill Belichick,
that's for damn sair Well.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Didn't you say, hey, take TCU in the over? I
thought I saw that. Was that one of your advice
earlier to have that was that you was.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
I didn't have a lot on this game. I did
lean to TCU moneyline, but it wasn't I just kind
of wanted to check it out, you know, I didn't.
I didn't want to let the past sort of affect me.
One way or the other. I just wanted to check
out this operation for a few weeks.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Well what do you think tonight?
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Man?
Speaker 1 (17:52):
What do you see? What? What do you see tonight?
From this game?
Speaker 3 (17:55):
I see hot tarbage, I mean I see I mean,
it's it's it's failure across the board here. You know,
whatever Freddy Kitchen scripted the first drive was shute and effective.
But right now, it looks like a lot of guys
who you know, the NFL kind of didn't want much
(18:18):
to do with right and didn't want to do a
build Belichick and they want to know Steve Belchick. They
won't much do with Freddy Kitchen, certainly not in a
role like this. I mean, they're getting absolutely humiliated here
in prime time at home. But you know, a TCU program,
that's solid program. But come on, this is this isn't
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a juggernaut. It It might be a long season. Man.
I don't want to go too crazy about one game,
but these are not guys who are accustomed to getting
They're a custom humiliating other people. Like I just wish
there's no way I'm making it up to this game
all for this, but like god, can we just fast
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forward to Belichick, you know post game, like, I mean
he's gonna like because you think you can get away
with that same crap. I mean, you've never won anything
at this level, hoss, and you're getting absolutely destroyed. Like
we'll see if you think she can get away with that,
you know, obstinate rude, just sort of obfuscating crap that
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he pulled whenever he lost in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
He's on to Charlotte.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Well, that line is guaranteed, is a work in progress,
that line is a moveing. Uh what yeah, I mean geez,
I don't know. I mean they better be Charlotte bro.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
Or a Wismond or or.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
I mean. The thing is Jay is that it's gone
from the first drive of the game, which has been hey,
Belichick's going to the playoff, this is all. And then
really because of all the drama what went on in
the off season, like you lose like this to TCU,
and and obviously you're setting the tone for a season
where you wonder how long does he have, Like does
he have more than a season to win? Does he
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have too you like, what does he have?
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Right? I mean, like look this whole like these aren't
the idea of a recruiting class like, that's hilarious. That's
passe right, you're recruiting him second to second, minute to minute, like,
you know, whatever allure he had because of what he
did at the NFL level, If this is any indicator
of what's to come, that buying's gonna leave the best
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kids that you have there are gonna want to go elsewhere.
The ones you didn't play are gonna want to go elsewhere.
You have to be ready to be a shape shifter
every year and at this stage of his life. Man,
oh man, you know, I just don't know, Like, you
got to get a whole another group. Maybe it won't
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be seventy like this, but fifty something kids to come
and hitch their wagon to a dude who then is
what seventy four years old or whatever. I don't know, man,
Like I say, you better be Charlotte. You like, you
better figure on that one out, hoodie, because you don't
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beat Charlotte. Holy moly.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
Looking ahead.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
By the way, there's somebody on the show who might
or might not be a Syracuse fan and Halloween Knights
Syracuse is hosting this North Carolina team. He will be
on the air directly after the show with I'm sure
much to say. North Carolina probably has about three months
to get it together before they face rival Duke, because
that's looking like the only big game on the schedule
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this year.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Yeah, I mean, look, Syracuse was interesting, like they moved
the ball on when I think it's a pretty good
Tennessee defense, way more than I thought they would. But yeah, defensively,
there's some things up defensively. But yeah, I look, I
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think everybody in the ACC it's gonna look pretty live
against these dudes. If they don't, they're already on the
second quarterback Like, well we'll see.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Jason locking for NFL Insider our guest. All right, so
as we segue away from Belichick in North Carolina, who
just lost another fumble and now TCU is going to
have the ball in uh North Carolina territory. You know
I'm gonna ask you both this. I was gonna say this,
but I'll do it right now. Uh what do you
think is just to get yeah, is not? What do
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you think is the worst loss of Bill Belichick's career?
Worst loss? But by losing by the most points? Points wise,
what's the worst Jesse margin? Yeah, just margin wise? What
do you think it is.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
I mean, it can't be. This has gotta be pretty
damn I mean at the NFL level. That did he
ever give you loose by thirty I mean give you
loose by thirty more than once, Mike, I don't know,
twenty seven points something like that, I don't know. Twenty eight.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
The Patriots lost thirty eight three to the Cowboys in
October of twenty twenty three. That's the worst loss, thirty
five points. And now here we are right now, midway
through the third quarter, and we're already there, right like,
I mean, we are already there. For Belichick, this could
wind up being not only this debut, this could wind
up being the worst loss of his coaching career, which is,
(23:35):
like you think about how things have changed from that
opening trive, just from that, it's insane. Oh ah, So
all right, let's get to the NFL now. Obviously, speaking
of the Dallas Cowboys, you know they're trying to move
on after Micah Parsons, and you know, I think the
most interesting thing this weekend, Jay was it, didn't you
know not that it's you know, sunshine, lollipops and rainbows
(23:57):
of the Cowboys because you let go the best defensive
player in the NFL. You do it right now for
the season. But it doesn't seem like and I don't
I don't think that Dak Prescott and some of the
other guys are putting this on. It doesn't seem like
the blocker room misses Micah Parsons. I mean, they they'll
miss what he does on the field, but doesn't seem
like from what we've heard and what they've talked about
him being a distraction his podcast, doesn't seem like they
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really miss his presence all that much.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Well, let's let's talk around this time Thursday night. Okay,
let's let's let's table that discussion till around eleven Eastern
on Thursday night, and we'll see. We'll see if they're
doing if they're tap dancing and doing the moonwalk because
Mike is not there anymore. If that is in fact
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going on, I think they're I think they're got an
area for a long season. Now, I readily admit I
think they were in a long season with him as well.
We can we can I certainly argue about what he
did or didn't do in the playoffs, what they did
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or didn't do in the playoffs, while he was on
the roster, you know, does he elevate people in January?
I would still say, boy, it's a small sample, and
a lot of those teams weren't really built for January's success.
But if you want to make the case, well, he's
about to become a forty five to fifty million dollar player,
(25:29):
so you have to factor that in. Okay, Like the
Dallas Cowboys weren't your right, they weren't winning with him,
but they're not really winning with anybody. They're not built
to win, they're not constructed to win. They're not able
to win when it really matters. But I certainly think
he made their football team better. I mean, I have
(25:49):
a hard time believing if there is an argument being
made out there that now because there's better camaraderie, they're
going like, I don't know, man, I don't know what
they're trying to sell in their locker room or at
the ownership level or shoddy, but I think they're going
to suffer. I think they're going to suffer quite a bit.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Do you have an idea of what Parsons first season
with Green Bay might be like now that we get
the stories if he was getting back treatment before the
deal to Green Bay and now back treatment still and
I know it's a long term contract, but joint sprain
in the back.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
What do you think of his first season for Green Bay?
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Well, look, I guarantee you that they gave him as
robust of physical as anybody's going to get for that franchise. No,
that's been fairly judicious about what it does, depending on
other teams players to invest that in someone who's never
(26:50):
played it down for them. I think their their medical
staff is obviously very very comfortable with whatever's going on
with Michael Parsons. Not not to say that people don't
miss things sometime or whatever, but it's been a pretty
durable player. It's been a pretty effective player, you know.
(27:10):
He uh, I mean I think look, I think Green
Bay got a lot better and they think Dalla's got
a lot worse. But we can try to we can
you know what I mean. We can try to thread
different needles and talk ourselves into you know, we can
navel gaze and we can try to get into the
(27:32):
apps tract. And it's like, again, you want to sell
me on cowboys culture, like you can? Their cultures suck forever.
So like, do I think that this departure is gonna
make it markedly better. I don't because I think they're
going to be trailing by three scores at the half way,
more than they'd like, and I think that tends to
(27:52):
to fray your locker room and and fray your leadership.
I think they're a group of independent contractors, and he
wanted to be paid as the highest of them all.
And at the end of the day, it got personal
between him and the old man, so the old man
didn't want to give it to him. But yeah, they
weren't going anywhere with them, and they're really going nowhere
(28:13):
without them.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
All right, Lastly, Jay News, Today, the Rams expect Matthew Stafford,
who missed a lot of time in Campbell and aggravated
disc in his back to start the season opener against
the Texans. Now, the Rams another terrific year, expecting a lot,
but here Stafford nearing the end. Back injury kept him out.
What's your level of concern for Stafford the Rams right now?
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Yeah, I mean I talked about wanting to see this
unc think team, you know, thing before I invested in it,
like I I do like the Rams. I'm holding a
fair amount of Rams futures tickets. I've purchased them a
long time ago. I've purchased them a long time before,
you know, before spring, before you know he was missing
important stuff in the summer. You know. Look, they've they've
(29:00):
got a backup there they feel pretty good about. I'll
be fascinating to see if there are times to this season,
if you know they're kind of keeping Stafford in bubble
rap or or whatever, how what kind of precautions they
might take with this. I think they've built the heck
of a roster. I think the defense showed you in
(29:22):
the second half of the season people who are really
paying attention to what it can do. I think DeVante
Adams if the quarterback is playing. If a quarterback is playing,
who's any good. I think he's going to have a
monster season. I think they've made adjustments to their run game.
I fuck to Selman say about it. You know, I
think they're going to be more dynamic and more diverse
(29:42):
and what they try to run. I think they'll be
more successful running the football. That's a good football team.
I think it's one of the you know, if you're
telling me Stafford's mostly healthy, I think that's the top
three team in the NFC, but he had look, he
had his share of injury issues. He's taking a lot
of hits over the years. He's nearing the end, so
(30:05):
they might they might be required to get a little
creative and how they NAVI gave him through the seedion.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
He's on Twitter at Jason Locking for that is at
Jason lock and for Hey real quick, So if I
said your Super Bowl team right now, preseason, where things sit,
who's your pick?
Speaker 3 (30:23):
I like Green Bay Baltemarre. I mean I liked it
before Parsons. I bought those tickets before that trade. So
that's where I am. All right.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
There it is again, get more from Jason lock and
for on Twitter at Jason lock and for Washington Post
Odyssey one oh five seven the fan in Baltimore. Jay,
Thanks a bunch, buddy. We'll talk to you next week.
We have real games to break down.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
There. You go, right, cowboys? See all right?
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Uh.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Time now to find out what's trending in the wide
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it or watch it on TV today, nothing more shocking
than the Grand Slam and triple from Juan Soto as
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has more on that story right now with What's trending?
Speaker 4 (31:25):
By the way, can I ask, since it was a
holiday and maybe some people saw the Mets broadcast on
MLB New, isn't it it's just a lesser broadcast when
it's only Keith Hernandez.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
Do you agree with me on that?
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Oh? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (31:37):
The boot I mean, look, there's a reason why that's
the best booth in Major League Baseball. It's all three
of them. It's Darling, no, but it's Cohen and Darling
and Keith, and it's the best. It's and it's been
the best. Like that's one thing I can say and
you can't. That's the best booth in baseball. But yeah,
when it's just.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
Keith, Steve we almost shared a elevator with Keith Hernandez.
It's oh, we will tell that story on her.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
I could tell it, I could tell it quick. But
that's the most, Uh, that's the most. I'll tell you this.
That's the most excited I've ever seen Frostburg in my
life when we almost shared an elevator.
Speaker 5 (32:11):
With Keith n because he's a big Seinfeld fan.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Yeah yeah, well, yeah, the the lines he was gonna
say to him, Oh my goodness. Well, you know what,
I'll tell you that story in a few minutes.
Speaker 5 (32:19):
I'll say there was gonna be accidental spittle and you'd
have to reenact the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
And sure there would be a second spinner. There's lots
of three exactly. He was gonna say, nice game, pretty boy.
Yeah yeah, sure.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
Let's update the college football game at North Carolina. The
tar Heels are in the end zone. Okay, so it
doesn't gonna mean much. Yeah, it's forty one thirteen now
TCU is leading at North Carolina, extra point pending. We
have about thirty seconds left in the third quarter.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Yeah, but North Carolina's gonna go for thirty on this play.
Speaker 5 (32:49):
Yeah, that's a thing.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Yeah, they go for thirty uh.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
By the way, AP points out that the tar Heels
program has not lost by thirty points or more to
an unranked team since two thousand, when they lost to
Russell Wilson and NC State forty one to ten. Right now,
if the extra point's good, it's gonna be forty one
fourteen TCU and the lead at North Carolina final minute
(33:12):
of the third period. North Carolina now does have more
than one hundred yards of offense. Following that great first drive,
they went straight down the field to open this game
seven plays eighty three yards and in about four minutes
took a seven to nothing lead. Hadn't scored again until
just now. In fact, their starting quarterback Geo Lopez. His
(33:33):
last completed pass was with at eight twelve Eastern time,
and over two hours later he completed another pass.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Wow, Hey, that's consistent, Steve. He will complete a pass
every two hours, two hours or not?
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Yes, yeah, well give it another two hours. There will
literally be nobody in the stadium because half of the
people have taken off at this point. Goo Lopez with
one interception, one fumble, TCU is just dominating. Can't I
can't believe how night and day this game is after
the first drive, dominating at North Carolina forty one to
(34:08):
fourteen RAMS.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Well, really, the first drive North Carolina was great. This
previous drive North Carolina was great. Now everything in the middle, okay,
it's a little bit there, but that first drive, in
this drive, everything's great.
Speaker 5 (34:20):
Everything in between. They got outscored forty one nothing.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
RAMS.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
Quarterback Matthew Stafford, with the bad back, is expected to
start the opener Sunday against the Texans. Micah Parsons defensive
end was limited in his first practice at Green Bay
with a bad back. Naomi Osaka beat Cocoa Golf at
the US Open in a fourth round match in straight set.
It's a win tonight for Amanda and Nissimova of the
us WNBA. Wins for Atlanta and Minnesota to Major League Baseball.
(34:45):
The Mets won ten to eight at Detroit. Philadelphia won
ten eight at Milwaukee. Cincinnati with three runs in the
bottom of the ninth beat Toronto five for Toronto had
just scored three runs in the top of the ninth.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
There's only one ball game still going.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
The Diamondbags Arizona five to three over Texas in the
top of the ninth inning. The Cubs in ten edged
Atlanta seven to six. Washington end today an eight game
losing streak, shouting out Miami two nothing back to.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
You, thank you, Steve O, Jason Smith Steve de Sager
in for Mike Harmon. Coming up next, Well, the two
biggest stories in sports this weekend Bill Belichick's debut, which
is not going well and arch Mannings Texas debut on Saturday,
which somehow went even worse. Why well you listen to
the show Friday. Yes, arch Manning's debut is all my fault.
(35:36):
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we'll have more on what is happening or not happening. Well,
it's happening in Chapel Hill right now, early in the
fourth quarter, a North Carolina touchdown has cut TCU's lead
to forty one to fourteen. So we'll have more on
(36:32):
this game. As Bill Belichick is screaming at the referees now,
things are getting a little out of control in North Carolina.
We'll have more on this coming up in a few minutes.
But look, clearly two big stories this weekend in college football. Right,
we watched What's happening right now to Bill Belichick and
Arch Manning and his less than stellar debut with Texas
(36:54):
on Saturday, seven points for the Longhorns they fall to
Ohio State fourteen to seven, and any of it, however
you want to slice it. This was a bad game
by arch Manning. Right. You can say he's got time
to learn, and the second half was better than the first,
and yes it was, but still only seven points. But
however you cut this up, he was bad. Right, I'm
just gonna look at that third down throw on the
(37:16):
final drive. You're saying, what was that? How do you
miss that? What are you talk like? That's that throw?
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Is?
Speaker 1 (37:22):
It typifies the entire game for arch Manning. And this
is where it's on us, Steve, because we were on
the air Friday night and we talked about this going
in and I said, it's my fault, like it's my fault.
It's all, Oh, Austin hates mean, you're right, Frossburg. Austin
hates me because what did I say? What if arch
Manning sucks? Like that's not even been put out there,
(37:42):
that's not even been a topic. Like it's it's he's
gonna succeed. He's like eminem and eight miles success is
my only blank blank option failures. Not right, he's gonna
what if he sucks? He has been the poster boy
for college football the offseason. He has been the national
story that was gonna cut through and save the nationality
of college football. That the story. He's gonna be the
(38:03):
coast to coast story, right, not a college football is
so regional. He's gonna be the guy and he was
just not good, Like what if he sucks? And this
is the narrative is gonna stay out here, Steve for
the next better part of the rest of the month,
because they have three walkover games until they get to
their next good ones. So this is a narrative that's
gonna be out there for a while with arch Manning.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
But I'll repeat what we said on the Friday show.
He was going against an elite defense in Ohio State,
so there was a chance that somebody getting his first
opening day start with Texas was gonna be made to
look bad because they made a lot of offenses look
bad last year. I know it's not the exact same
roster this year, and seemingly, you know, boatloads of guys
(38:45):
go to the NFL year after year off that roster.
But I don't know how many elite defenses like that
he's going to see this season.
Speaker 5 (38:53):
Point did he see them last weekend?
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Well? Yeah. But here's the thing though, is that, Yeah,
I get it, Ohio State's good. But if you're a
really good player, you still play well in those games. Right,
it's not what it's not play well.
Speaker 4 (39:06):
But I'm saying to only score even if you know
they had scored on the fourth and goal, for example,
even if they had finished with fourteen points in the game.
A ton of opponents had only about fourteen points against
Ohio State last year.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Yeah, but this is Texas, this is the number one
team in the cause. This is not this is not
like arch Manning decided to go to Syracuse and as well,
they're not going to match up. And this is if
they Texas.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
Man if they'd had Jayden Blue on fourth and goal,
I think touchdown, but he's not at Texas anymore.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
Now that if they had Ricky Williams, they would have
scored on that fourth and goal.
Speaker 5 (39:38):
But no, I see many other times.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
But that's the thing, is that, Yeah, I get that
this wasn't a game where hey, he goes for three
point fifty and four touchdowns. No, I understand that. But
you look at some of the other quarterbacks playing against
really good teams, and still they moved their teams up
and down the field, right still, Kate Klubnick, still moved
the team a little bit even though there weren't points
on the on the board. You know you will looking
in in No Tre Dame where Carr moved Notre Dame
(40:02):
up and down the field like you saw this, and
Carson Beck in his first game, like you saw some
of the other top quarterbacks in tough games have decent games,
and Julian saying just had an okay game too. But
you know, they didn't really ask him to do a lot.
But it was still, you know, not a great game
from Ohio States perspective. But this is arch Manning and
the number one team in the country, and you know
he's got some dudes on the offensive line, and yeah
(40:23):
he's got some new receivers. But I expected better than
that because how many throws did he just misses? Like
this is not like, hey, here's some coverages. He got
confused like theirs throws it he just has to make
and he didn't get He looked nervous in the beginning
of the game. And while yes, it did get a
little bit better for him, I mean, come on, seven points, Steve,
I mean, to number one team in the country, you can't.
I don't care if you're on the road at Ohio State,
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if you're playing in dan Arctica on a glacier, you
gotta score more than seven points.
Speaker 4 (40:48):
They laid an egg, There's no two ways about it.
And it wasn't just the bad result for the team.
It was the nuts and bolts of quarter to quarter.
The quarterback that they're relying on for the season just
not making the play. They didn't need him to be superstar,
and especially in a low scoring game, they didn't. But
there were I think you're the screen pass and that
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you're talking about late in the game is a really
good example. They just need a starting quarterback to complete
that pass give us chance.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
Uh But again, I need to take take uh take
responsibility because this was my fault, Like I brought this up.
What if he sucks and and and look what happened, Like,
that's my fault. That's my fault. That's on me.
Speaker 5 (41:29):
Can they play North Carolina next? Can we do that
to the schedule?
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Yeah, that flexible scheduling, Steve, I think we're gonna college
football soon. Uh More on the biggest most shocking story
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One day, one of my grandchildren's gonna come to me
and say, Grandpa, what was Bill Belichick's debut for North Carolina?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Like?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
And I'm gonna say, well, you mean the first drive
or the entirety of the game and there's a difference.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Your response is gonna be, well, let me tell you,
son about one of the great coaches in New York
Jets history.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
Do you have enough time.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Game one at North Carolina. He's already lost more games
than he did as the Jet said, coach, just to
let you know, ut, whoo uh to go, Marv albert
on you not exactly what Bill Belichick had in mind.
Right now, early in the third quarter, and I mean
thirteen and a half to go in the third quarter,
(01:45):
TCU has rebounded from what was a really great first
drive of the game for North Carolina. You really we'll
have to spend a lot of time that I'm talking
about that first drive from North Carolina when they were
gonna be in the playoff and they were gonna be
undefeated and Belichick was gonna jump back to the NFL,
And I mean, it was that great since North Carolina
started out up seven to nothing. First drive of the game,
(02:06):
touchdown run by Caleb Hood Hey, fantastic, right. They panned
out to Jordan Hudson and Randy Moss and Michael Jordan,
all the great Broy Williams, all the great North Carolina
luminaries are there. Yeah, TCU has now outscored North Carolina
twenty seven to nothing in that span, including first drive
(02:26):
of the second half, North Carolina down twenty to Seveniforian
Barnes takes the hand off, goes right and goes seventy
five yards for a touchdown to give the horn Frogs
a twenty seven to seven lead over North Carolina.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
In other words, after that great opening drive, even including that,
it's only four first downs for the night for the
tar Heels offense and they have yet to convert on
third down, zero for six right.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Now, Yeah, this is what's called adjusting. After the opening
drive is Okay, we know what they can do. Okay,
this next drive is gonna be better. And boy, it
has been a clinic now to to go realistic things
and tell you about stuff. Look reacting to this game
in real time. Now, this is not that surprising, Okay,
to just stop for I mean, I know, because because
it's Belichick. We'll get to the attention and how big
(03:13):
a deal Belichick is. But this result is not that surprising. Okay,
you watched tc This is the team that was when
a hair's breadth of getting to the college football playoff
last year. Right, Josh Hoover is a really good quarterback.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Man.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
He's making NFL throws. They're running all over North Carolina.
This was an eight win team last year that was again,
was that close to making the playoff.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
Nine the bowl game, Yeah, you gotta talk about the ball.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
The bowl games are tough those teams because you know,
I can't really say, hey, what a bowl game, because
it's like, yeah, sometimes teams only show up with like
eight players for bowl games. You know, that's the whole thing.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
But it was in the street.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
As we talked about last week, it was an extremely
competitive conference that they were in last year. Yes, and
yes they were one of those contenders. Yeah, and favorite
on the road correct if for tonight.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Yes they were, they were. Look there, TCU is a
good team, right, they're a good team. This is a
North Carolina team that honestly is starting over. They were
a five hundred team last year. They lose A Murray
and Hampton to the NFL. And of course, you know
the season he had if you do fantasy football, he's
been a guy on everybody's lips for the past couple
of months. He was fantastic at North Carolina, last year.
(04:23):
This is a North Carolina team that Belichick comes in
a lot of questions. The recruiting had been going okay, right,
Like he's getting the guys he's supposed to get, he's
getting the you know, the four star guys.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
He got his quarterback that we're seeing tonight after spring ball.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, proving that Hey, I'm still gonna
do stuff like I did it in New England and
maybe it doesn't work. But the big thing, the big
question is not, Hey, is this surprising for Belichick because again,
North Carolina opening at home? Yeah, you never know, because
college football is that is that kind of a sport.
Let's just just ask Alabama. But seeing this happen, I'm
(04:58):
not as surprised. Like I am more surprised at arch
Manning's bad and horrible weekend, which we'll get to in
a little bit. I am much more surprised at that
it is it is. It is my fault. Hey, Now,
Ohio State loves me, even though even though my wife
went to Michigan. Ohio State loves me because we curs
to arch Manning. But I'm much more surprised at arch
Manning than I am at this simply because yes, TCU
(05:21):
is good. But it's like, because North Carolina has become
and this is the big thing, is that no matter
what kind of season they have, the attention on North
Carolina it is going to mirror in every way, shape
and form what twenty twenty three was like for Colorado.
Deon Sanders shows up. It's a really big deal. Here
(05:41):
comes a legend. Yes, you know, a little bit different
path for Dion than Belichick because Dion goes Hall of Fame. Hey,
I'm coaching at FCS and I'm still in outsized personality,
was on NFL network for a long time. He jumps
to Colorado very brash, very arrogant, very we're gonna come
kick your ass, and all of a sudden that became
the story, Like that sucked up all the auction he
(06:03):
brought in, all kinds of of luminaries himself, right, all
kinds of legends declan to want to be his coaches,
and Warren sapp wants to coach, and there's all kinds
of attention for Deon Sanders in Colorado and it's come
beat us and it's very polarizing, but the attention on
Colorado is it was the deal, right, It was the
it was the thing, and all the way through September October,
(06:25):
they became must see games. Didn't matter that they were losing.
They became must see games because of everything that went
along with Dion and Shadoor and Travis Hunter and how
good he was. Right, they jumped onto the on the
onto the scene. In a second, it's the same thing
here at North Carolina. Here's Bill Belichick. Wait a minute,
this is Belichick. Cut This cuts through the clutter again,
different journey fro him to get to college football, but
(06:45):
still the same thing. You see all the celebrities that
are here at the game. He was the dominant story
in college football in the offseason, Belichick going to North Carolina,
Arch Manning of Texas right one two one two one two,
and you see tonight and the pageantry that's gone along
with this game. The only thing that rivaled it was
Texas and Ohio State Saturday because of arch Manning and
his big quote debut this time as Texas's starting quarterback.
(07:10):
So yeah, win or lose for North Carolina. This is
the story all year. Because this story becomes hey will
Bill Belichick win? To what becomes more interesting, which is
if he doesn't win, how long does Belichick have to
get it right? Because of the entire drama of the
off season with Jordan Hudson and the negative attention around
(07:31):
North Carolina football, they finally did the right thing and
they got it right in the off season by saying, okay,
no more interviews were staying away from this, and for
most of the summer the Jordan Hudson Bill Belichick drama
went away, but still it was really difficult. A lot
of negative attention brought to North Carolina. So the thing is,
if Carolina doesn't win, how long does Belichick have right
to really? Does he have more than a season? If
(07:53):
he are recruit's gonna say I'm not going there, man,
that's just gonna blow up in a year like that
becomes the question. And here this game to night in
which TCU is up twenty seven to seven, throwing the
football all over the field and not driving again for
what could be another score. That's kind of where you
could be going just in one night for Bill Belichick.
From Wow, first drive of the game was we're going
(08:13):
to the playoff and now it's hey, how long does
he have to get it right before he's out? Like that?
That's how fast things change in college football.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
And also we brought up the North Carolina schedule last week. Yes,
they have a high profile game in that the NFL
hasn't started, and this is the loan game on the
docket for this Monday night to finish up the first
big weekend of college football.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
It's two unranked teams. Let's be honest, but they're getting rolled.
A loss by.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
North Carolina would not at all have surprised me, but
to be down twenty right after halftime, and the way
they have done nothing on offense after the opening drive.
They have twenty five yards of offense since that opening
drive touchdown where they went straight down the field and
went up seven to nothing. They're down twenty seven to seven.
That schedule that North Carolina had, Fortunately for them, they
(09:01):
play almost nobody outside of Clemson for the next couple
of months. They have time to get it right and
do all the teaching that he wants to do. The
odd thing that you brought up the parallels with Colorado,
the attention there is that you had the high profile
coach with the NFL name and his son as the quarterback.
Here you have the high profile coach with the NFL name.
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His son is the defensive coordinator that's getting rolled tonight.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Yeah, I mean, this is it's just just chunk yardage
since the second half started, It's chunk yardage on every
play for TCU. Like this is becoming a stat game
for them, right like this. I mean they just had
they just had had a quick out that got inside
the twenty yard line. But it looks like there's a
holding penalty. It's gonna bring it back.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
It's still They're gonna get close to four hundred yards
in three quarters.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
This is Yeah, this looks like Bill Belichick at the
end in New England, Like when he's on the sideline
with the big with the with the face with the mask,
the big wool mass. It just shows his eyes and
he's los to the Jets the final game of his career,
going okay, this is.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
I'm actually there is a parallel there too, because in
that case with the Patriots and in this case with
North Carolina, he was the general manager of the roster.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
How's it going?
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Yeah, Oh yeah, I mean look and and and that's
the and that's the whole thing with the drama of
Belichick and again, how things change in just a couple
of quarters here is that. You know, people forget that
the off season for North Carolina was really rough, right,
it was every day there were stories about Belichick and
Jordan Hudson and what kind of uh what us?
Speaker 5 (10:32):
By the way, not a recruit for those.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
No, yes, girlfriend, Jordan Hudson at the game, at the game,
by the way. Uh, you know, I can't believe that
Jordan Hudson hasn't found a way to do something where hey,
you only photograph me next to Michael Jordan, like the
two Jordan's right, the two Jets. It the two Jordans,
and you credit me first.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
And not Lawrence Taylor. Let's be honest. Transfer, I believe
is what the property is called.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
No transit. And and hey listen, you right, and you
font on that screen, the two Jordans, and you spell
Jordan the way I spell my name, not how he
spells his. Right, you say air Jordan, it's h E
I R j O R d O N. That's what
we want right there.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
And Billy Williams was there, and mea Ham who played
at North Carolina was there. I mean, this was a big,
big night for the campus and to have that kind
of first drive you're not kidding. I mean it's a
little bit of hyperboleon joking along, like, hey, the season
might be just like this. I'm sure that's what some
people thought in the crowd after seeing that first drive,
and it.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Said it's more like Jack Nicholson and as good as
it gets. Where he turned when he says to Helen Hunt,
what if this is as good as it gets?
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Right at this moment said, also, according Jack Nicholson, wait
till they get a load of me.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
I almost if Belichick could do it over again. After
that first drive in a touchdown, he goes out to midfield.
He waves to the crowd, takes his headset off and
leaves the field and says, that's the goodbye. It was like,
oh my goodness, it was so great. It was so great, and.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Then writes down on a piece of paper, I am
resign the New York Jets, the North Carolina tar Heels.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
It would be I resign as hc of U NC.
It would be just like that, really, But like that
becomes the thing now, is that you know, you forget
you have to win, right with all the patent you know,
the comparisons with deon Compete and North Carolina. Right, Dion
didn't win the first year, but you remember he was
coming in taking over a program that was basically a
(12:28):
one win for franchise.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
And offensive line.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Yeah, North Carolina is a mid you know already was
a mid acc program, right, they they were kind of mid.
So when when Dion takes over and the first year, okay,
they only win a handful of games, but it's excitement,
it's more wins. It's you know, we have our quarterback.
We have a superstar coming back next year in Travis Hunter. Okay.
(12:52):
And then Colorado went last year and won a little
bit more and one a little bit more to say, Okay,
we're building on stuff now, all right, I get it. Okay,
so year three, now there's excitement for it. Now. You
look at Belichick and he comes in year one and
it's a mid program. And if they're still mid or
they're worse, Like, this is not a This is not
a one to ten team or one eleven team. This
is a six and six, six and seventeen from last year,
(13:14):
it's a mid program. If this program stays mid or
doesn't win, like I mean it, like, what how much
time does he have? Like that's that's the weird weird
because of everything that goes along with the drama of
having Belichick come in.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
And anybody who gets hired in his seventies elsewhere, that
is a legitimate question.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
How much time does he have win or lose by
any way, And they weren't quite mid in.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
The conference standings, you know, the ACC like all the
other college conferences. I believe they have eighteen teams in
each league. Now, North Carolina was not middle of the pack.
They were better than Callen Stanford in the ACC. Yes,
those are ACC schools. Yeah, and Florida State was dead
last as we know last year, but most of the
conference was better than UNC last year. They are starting
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at the bottom, it appears this year.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
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name coming up. Yeah, still a twenty seven to seven
lead for TCU on North Carolina, TCU knocking on the door.
They just got a big first down inside the twenty
yard line. But coming up next, Jason Lock and fora
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Speaker 1 (16:10):
Fox Sports Radio. The Chase and Smith Show is Steve
de Sega in from Mike Harmon and I would like
to tell you that this North Carolina TCU game has
gotten closer. I said, I'd like to tell you, but
I can't. A scoop and score. Geo Lopez is sacked
a fumble return for a touchdown. Fans are streaming to
(16:30):
the exits now as TCU leads North Carolina forty to
seven extra point pending with seven minutes to go in
the third quarter. A night that began with all sorts
of pageantry, now it's an absolute blowout. Lopez is being
looked at on the sideline right now. He is hit
from behind, fumble the scoop and score again. Now a
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forty one to seven lead for TCU over Bill Belichick
and North Carolina. More this game coming up with a bit.
But a guy that I know wants to get in
on this joining us now on the hot line, longtime
NFL insider at Odyssey one oh five seven the fan
in Baltimore, Washington Post. He is on Twitter at Jason
(17:15):
Lock and for it is Jason Lock and for it Jay.
What's happening, man?
Speaker 3 (17:19):
How are you well? I'm doing better than Bill Belichick,
that's for damn sair Well.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Didn't you say, hey, take TCU in the over? I
thought I saw that. Was that one of your advice
earlier to have that was that you was.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
I didn't have a lot on this game. I did
lean to TCU moneyline, but it wasn't I just kind
of wanted to check it out, you know, I didn't.
I didn't want to let the past sort of affect me.
One way or the other. I just wanted to check
out this operation for a few weeks.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Well what do you think tonight?
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Man?
Speaker 1 (17:52):
What do you see? What? What do you see tonight?
From this game?
Speaker 3 (17:55):
I see hot tarbage, I mean I see I mean,
it's it's it's failure across the board here. You know,
whatever Freddy Kitchen scripted the first drive was shute and effective.
But right now, it looks like a lot of guys
who you know, the NFL kind of didn't want much
(18:18):
to do with right and didn't want to do a
build Belichick and they want to know Steve Belchick. They
won't much do with Freddy Kitchen, certainly not in a
role like this. I mean, they're getting absolutely humiliated here
in prime time at home. But you know, a TCU program,
that's solid program. But come on, this is this isn't
(18:40):
a juggernaut. It It might be a long season. Man.
I don't want to go too crazy about one game,
but these are not guys who are accustomed to getting
They're a custom humiliating other people. Like I just wish
there's no way I'm making it up to this game
all for this, but like god, can we just fast
(19:02):
forward to Belichick, you know post game, like, I mean
he's gonna like because you think you can get away
with that same crap. I mean, you've never won anything
at this level, hoss, and you're getting absolutely destroyed. Like
we'll see if you think she can get away with that,
you know, obstinate rude, just sort of obfuscating crap that
(19:27):
he pulled whenever he lost in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
He's on to Charlotte.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Well, that line is guaranteed, is a work in progress,
that line is a moveing. Uh what yeah, I mean geez,
I don't know. I mean they better be Charlotte bro.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
Or a Wismond or or.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
I mean. The thing is Jay is that it's gone
from the first drive of the game, which has been hey,
Belichick's going to the playoff, this is all. And then
really because of all the drama what went on in
the off season, like you lose like this to TCU,
and and obviously you're setting the tone for a season
where you wonder how long does he have, Like does
he have more than a season to win? Does he
(20:13):
have too you like, what does he have?
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Right? I mean, like look this whole like these aren't
the idea of a recruiting class like, that's hilarious. That's
passe right, you're recruiting him second to second, minute to minute, like,
you know, whatever allure he had because of what he
did at the NFL level, If this is any indicator
of what's to come, that buying's gonna leave the best
(20:38):
kids that you have there are gonna want to go elsewhere.
The ones you didn't play are gonna want to go elsewhere.
You have to be ready to be a shape shifter
every year and at this stage of his life. Man,
oh man, you know, I just don't know, Like, you
got to get a whole another group. Maybe it won't
(20:59):
be seventy like this, but fifty something kids to come
and hitch their wagon to a dude who then is
what seventy four years old or whatever. I don't know, man,
Like I say, you better be Charlotte. You like, you
better figure on that one out, hoodie, because you don't
(21:21):
beat Charlotte. Holy moly.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
Looking ahead.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
By the way, there's somebody on the show who might
or might not be a Syracuse fan and Halloween Knights
Syracuse is hosting this North Carolina team. He will be
on the air directly after the show with I'm sure
much to say. North Carolina probably has about three months
to get it together before they face rival Duke, because
that's looking like the only big game on the schedule
(21:46):
this year.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Yeah, I mean, look, Syracuse was interesting, like they moved
the ball on when I think it's a pretty good
Tennessee defense, way more than I thought they would. But yeah, defensively,
there's some things up defensively. But yeah, I look, I
(22:09):
think everybody in the ACC it's gonna look pretty live
against these dudes. If they don't, they're already on the
second quarterback Like, well we'll see.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Jason locking for NFL Insider our guest. All right, so
as we segue away from Belichick in North Carolina, who
just lost another fumble and now TCU is going to
have the ball in uh North Carolina territory. You know
I'm gonna ask you both this. I was gonna say this,
but I'll do it right now. Uh what do you
think is just to get yeah, is not? What do
(22:42):
you think is the worst loss of Bill Belichick's career?
Worst loss? But by losing by the most points? Points wise,
what's the worst Jesse margin? Yeah, just margin wise? What
do you think it is.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
I mean, it can't be. This has gotta be pretty
damn I mean at the NFL level. That did he
ever give you loose by thirty I mean give you
loose by thirty more than once, Mike, I don't know,
twenty seven points something like that, I don't know. Twenty eight.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
The Patriots lost thirty eight three to the Cowboys in
October of twenty twenty three. That's the worst loss, thirty
five points. And now here we are right now, midway
through the third quarter, and we're already there, right like,
I mean, we are already there. For Belichick, this could
wind up being not only this debut, this could wind
up being the worst loss of his coaching career, which is,
(23:35):
like you think about how things have changed from that
opening trive, just from that, it's insane. Oh ah, So
all right, let's get to the NFL now. Obviously, speaking
of the Dallas Cowboys, you know they're trying to move
on after Micah Parsons, and you know, I think the
most interesting thing this weekend, Jay was it, didn't you
know not that it's you know, sunshine, lollipops and rainbows
(23:57):
of the Cowboys because you let go the best defensive
player in the NFL. You do it right now for
the season. But it doesn't seem like and I don't
I don't think that Dak Prescott and some of the
other guys are putting this on. It doesn't seem like
the blocker room misses Micah Parsons. I mean, they they'll
miss what he does on the field, but doesn't seem
like from what we've heard and what they've talked about
him being a distraction his podcast, doesn't seem like they
(24:19):
really miss his presence all that much.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Well, let's let's talk around this time Thursday night. Okay,
let's let's let's table that discussion till around eleven Eastern
on Thursday night, and we'll see. We'll see if they're
doing if they're tap dancing and doing the moonwalk because
Mike is not there anymore. If that is in fact
(24:44):
going on, I think they're I think they're got an
area for a long season. Now, I readily admit I
think they were in a long season with him as well.
We can we can I certainly argue about what he
did or didn't do in the playoffs, what they did
(25:06):
or didn't do in the playoffs, while he was on
the roster, you know, does he elevate people in January?
I would still say, boy, it's a small sample, and
a lot of those teams weren't really built for January's success.
But if you want to make the case, well, he's
about to become a forty five to fifty million dollar player,
(25:29):
so you have to factor that in. Okay, Like the
Dallas Cowboys weren't your right, they weren't winning with him,
but they're not really winning with anybody. They're not built
to win, they're not constructed to win. They're not able
to win when it really matters. But I certainly think
he made their football team better. I mean, I have
(25:49):
a hard time believing if there is an argument being
made out there that now because there's better camaraderie, they're
going like, I don't know, man, I don't know what
they're trying to sell in their locker room or at
the ownership level or shoddy, but I think they're going
to suffer. I think they're going to suffer quite a bit.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Do you have an idea of what Parsons first season
with Green Bay might be like now that we get
the stories if he was getting back treatment before the
deal to Green Bay and now back treatment still and
I know it's a long term contract, but joint sprain
in the back.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
What do you think of his first season for Green Bay?
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Well, look, I guarantee you that they gave him as
robust of physical as anybody's going to get for that franchise. No,
that's been fairly judicious about what it does, depending on
other teams players to invest that in someone who's never
(26:50):
played it down for them. I think their their medical
staff is obviously very very comfortable with whatever's going on
with Michael Parsons. Not not to say that people don't
miss things sometime or whatever, but it's been a pretty
durable player. It's been a pretty effective player, you know.
(27:10):
He uh, I mean I think look, I think Green
Bay got a lot better and they think Dalla's got
a lot worse. But we can try to we can
you know what I mean. We can try to thread
different needles and talk ourselves into you know, we can
navel gaze and we can try to get into the
(27:32):
apps tract. And it's like, again, you want to sell
me on cowboys culture, like you can? Their cultures suck forever.
So like, do I think that this departure is gonna
make it markedly better. I don't because I think they're
going to be trailing by three scores at the half way,
more than they'd like, and I think that tends to
(27:52):
to fray your locker room and and fray your leadership.
I think they're a group of independent contractors, and he
wanted to be paid as the highest of them all.
And at the end of the day, it got personal
between him and the old man, so the old man
didn't want to give it to him. But yeah, they
weren't going anywhere with them, and they're really going nowhere
(28:13):
without them.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
All right, Lastly, Jay News, Today, the Rams expect Matthew Stafford,
who missed a lot of time in Campbell and aggravated
disc in his back to start the season opener against
the Texans. Now, the Rams another terrific year, expecting a lot,
but here Stafford nearing the end. Back injury kept him out.
What's your level of concern for Stafford the Rams right now?
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Yeah, I mean I talked about wanting to see this
unc think team, you know, thing before I invested in it,
like I I do like the Rams. I'm holding a
fair amount of Rams futures tickets. I've purchased them a
long time ago. I've purchased them a long time before,
you know, before spring, before you know he was missing
important stuff in the summer. You know. Look, they've they've
(29:00):
got a backup there they feel pretty good about. I'll
be fascinating to see if there are times to this season,
if you know they're kind of keeping Stafford in bubble
rap or or whatever, how what kind of precautions they
might take with this. I think they've built the heck
of a roster. I think the defense showed you in
(29:22):
the second half of the season people who are really
paying attention to what it can do. I think DeVante
Adams if the quarterback is playing. If a quarterback is playing,
who's any good. I think he's going to have a
monster season. I think they've made adjustments to their run game.
I fuck to Selman say about it. You know, I
think they're going to be more dynamic and more diverse
(29:42):
and what they try to run. I think they'll be
more successful running the football. That's a good football team.
I think it's one of the you know, if you're
telling me Stafford's mostly healthy, I think that's the top
three team in the NFC, but he had look, he
had his share of injury issues. He's taking a lot
of hits over the years. He's nearing the end, so
(30:05):
they might they might be required to get a little
creative and how they NAVI gave him through the seedion.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
He's on Twitter at Jason Locking for that is at
Jason lock and for Hey real quick, So if I
said your Super Bowl team right now, preseason, where things sit,
who's your pick?
Speaker 3 (30:23):
I like Green Bay Baltemarre. I mean I liked it
before Parsons. I bought those tickets before that trade. So
that's where I am. All right.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
There it is again, get more from Jason lock and
for on Twitter at Jason lock and for Washington Post
Odyssey one oh five seven the fan in Baltimore. Jay,
Thanks a bunch, buddy. We'll talk to you next week.
We have real games to break down.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
There. You go, right, cowboys? See all right?
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Uh.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Time now to find out what's trending in the wide
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it or watch it on TV today, nothing more shocking
than the Grand Slam and triple from Juan Soto as
he leads the Mets by the Tigers. Steve de Seger
has more on that story right now with What's trending?
Speaker 4 (31:25):
By the way, can I ask, since it was a
holiday and maybe some people saw the Mets broadcast on
MLB New, isn't it it's just a lesser broadcast when
it's only Keith Hernandez.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
Do you agree with me on that?
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Oh? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (31:37):
The boot I mean, look, there's a reason why that's
the best booth in Major League Baseball. It's all three
of them. It's Darling, no, but it's Cohen and Darling
and Keith, and it's the best. It's and it's been
the best. Like that's one thing I can say and
you can't. That's the best booth in baseball. But yeah,
when it's just.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
Keith, Steve we almost shared a elevator with Keith Hernandez.
It's oh, we will tell that story on her.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
I could tell it, I could tell it quick. But
that's the most, Uh, that's the most. I'll tell you this.
That's the most excited I've ever seen Frostburg in my
life when we almost shared an elevator.
Speaker 5 (32:11):
With Keith n because he's a big Seinfeld fan.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Yeah yeah, well, yeah, the the lines he was gonna
say to him, Oh my goodness. Well, you know what,
I'll tell you that story in a few minutes.
Speaker 5 (32:19):
I'll say there was gonna be accidental spittle and you'd
have to reenact the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
And sure there would be a second spinner. There's lots
of three exactly. He was gonna say, nice game, pretty boy.
Yeah yeah, sure.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
Let's update the college football game at North Carolina. The
tar Heels are in the end zone. Okay, so it
doesn't gonna mean much. Yeah, it's forty one thirteen now
TCU is leading at North Carolina, extra point pending. We
have about thirty seconds left in the third quarter.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Yeah, but North Carolina's gonna go for thirty on this play.
Speaker 5 (32:49):
Yeah, that's a thing.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Yeah, they go for thirty uh.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
By the way, AP points out that the tar Heels
program has not lost by thirty points or more to
an unranked team since two thousand, when they lost to
Russell Wilson and NC State forty one to ten. Right now,
if the extra point's good, it's gonna be forty one
fourteen TCU and the lead at North Carolina final minute
(33:12):
of the third period. North Carolina now does have more
than one hundred yards of offense. Following that great first drive,
they went straight down the field to open this game
seven plays eighty three yards and in about four minutes
took a seven to nothing lead. Hadn't scored again until
just now. In fact, their starting quarterback Geo Lopez. His
(33:33):
last completed pass was with at eight twelve Eastern time,
and over two hours later he completed another pass.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Wow, Hey, that's consistent, Steve. He will complete a pass
every two hours, two hours or not?
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Yes, yeah, well give it another two hours. There will
literally be nobody in the stadium because half of the
people have taken off at this point. Goo Lopez with
one interception, one fumble, TCU is just dominating. Can't I
can't believe how night and day this game is after
the first drive, dominating at North Carolina forty one to
(34:08):
fourteen RAMS.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Well, really, the first drive North Carolina was great. This
previous drive North Carolina was great. Now everything in the middle, okay,
it's a little bit there, but that first drive, in
this drive, everything's great.
Speaker 5 (34:20):
Everything in between. They got outscored forty one nothing.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
RAMS.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
Quarterback Matthew Stafford, with the bad back, is expected to
start the opener Sunday against the Texans. Micah Parsons defensive
end was limited in his first practice at Green Bay
with a bad back. Naomi Osaka beat Cocoa Golf at
the US Open in a fourth round match in straight set.
It's a win tonight for Amanda and Nissimova of the
us WNBA. Wins for Atlanta and Minnesota to Major League Baseball.
(34:45):
The Mets won ten to eight at Detroit. Philadelphia won
ten eight at Milwaukee. Cincinnati with three runs in the
bottom of the ninth beat Toronto five for Toronto had
just scored three runs in the top of the ninth.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
There's only one ball game still going.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
The Diamondbags Arizona five to three over Texas in the
top of the ninth inning. The Cubs in ten edged
Atlanta seven to six. Washington end today an eight game
losing streak, shouting out Miami two nothing back to.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
You, thank you, Steve O, Jason Smith Steve de Sager
in for Mike Harmon. Coming up next, Well, the two
biggest stories in sports this weekend Bill Belichick's debut, which
is not going well and arch Mannings Texas debut on Saturday,
which somehow went even worse. Why well you listen to
the show Friday. Yes, arch Manning's debut is all my fault.
(35:36):
We'll tell you why. Coming up next, Jason Smith, Steve
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we'll have more on what is happening or not happening. Well,
it's happening in Chapel Hill right now, early in the
fourth quarter, a North Carolina touchdown has cut TCU's lead
to forty one to fourteen. So we'll have more on
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this game. As Bill Belichick is screaming at the referees now,
things are getting a little out of control in North Carolina.
We'll have more on this coming up in a few minutes.
But look, clearly two big stories this weekend in college football. Right,
we watched What's happening right now to Bill Belichick and
Arch Manning and his less than stellar debut with Texas
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on Saturday, seven points for the Longhorns they fall to
Ohio State fourteen to seven, and any of it, however
you want to slice it. This was a bad game
by arch Manning. Right. You can say he's got time
to learn, and the second half was better than the first,
and yes it was, but still only seven points. But
however you cut this up, he was bad. Right, I'm
just gonna look at that third down throw on the
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final drive. You're saying, what was that? How do you
miss that? What are you talk like? That's that throw?
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Is?
Speaker 1 (37:22):
It typifies the entire game for arch Manning. And this
is where it's on us, Steve, because we were on
the air Friday night and we talked about this going
in and I said, it's my fault, like it's my fault.
It's all, Oh, Austin hates mean, you're right, Frossburg. Austin
hates me because what did I say? What if arch
Manning sucks? Like that's not even been put out there,
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that's not even been a topic. Like it's it's he's
gonna succeed. He's like eminem and eight miles success is
my only blank blank option failures. Not right, he's gonna
what if he sucks? He has been the poster boy
for college football the offseason. He has been the national
story that was gonna cut through and save the nationality
of college football. That the story. He's gonna be the
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coast to coast story, right, not a college football is
so regional. He's gonna be the guy and he was
just not good, Like what if he sucks? And this
is the narrative is gonna stay out here, Steve for
the next better part of the rest of the month,
because they have three walkover games until they get to
their next good ones. So this is a narrative that's
gonna be out there for a while with arch Manning.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
But I'll repeat what we said on the Friday show.
He was going against an elite defense in Ohio State,
so there was a chance that somebody getting his first
opening day start with Texas was gonna be made to
look bad because they made a lot of offenses look
bad last year. I know it's not the exact same
roster this year, and seemingly, you know, boatloads of guys
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go to the NFL year after year off that roster.
But I don't know how many elite defenses like that
he's going to see this season.
Speaker 5 (38:53):
Point did he see them last weekend?
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Well? Yeah. But here's the thing though, is that, Yeah,
I get it, Ohio State's good. But if you're a
really good player, you still play well in those games. Right,
it's not what it's not play well.
Speaker 4 (39:06):
But I'm saying to only score even if you know
they had scored on the fourth and goal, for example,
even if they had finished with fourteen points in the game.
A ton of opponents had only about fourteen points against
Ohio State last year.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Yeah, but this is Texas, this is the number one
team in the cause. This is not this is not
like arch Manning decided to go to Syracuse and as well,
they're not going to match up. And this is if
they Texas.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
Man if they'd had Jayden Blue on fourth and goal,
I think touchdown, but he's not at Texas anymore.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
Now that if they had Ricky Williams, they would have
scored on that fourth and goal.
Speaker 5 (39:38):
But no, I see many other times.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
But that's the thing, is that, Yeah, I get that
this wasn't a game where hey, he goes for three
point fifty and four touchdowns. No, I understand that. But
you look at some of the other quarterbacks playing against
really good teams, and still they moved their teams up
and down the field, right still, Kate Klubnick, still moved
the team a little bit even though there weren't points
on the on the board. You know you will looking
in in No Tre Dame where Carr moved Notre Dame
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up and down the field like you saw this, and
Carson Beck in his first game, like you saw some
of the other top quarterbacks in tough games have decent games,
and Julian saying just had an okay game too. But
you know, they didn't really ask him to do a lot.
But it was still, you know, not a great game
from Ohio States perspective. But this is arch Manning and
the number one team in the country, and you know
he's got some dudes on the offensive line, and yeah
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he's got some new receivers. But I expected better than
that because how many throws did he just misses? Like
this is not like, hey, here's some coverages. He got
confused like theirs throws it he just has to make
and he didn't get He looked nervous in the beginning
of the game. And while yes, it did get a
little bit better for him, I mean, come on, seven points, Steve,
I mean, to number one team in the country, you can't.
I don't care if you're on the road at Ohio State,
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if you're playing in dan Arctica on a glacier, you
gotta score more than seven points.
Speaker 4 (40:48):
They laid an egg, There's no two ways about it.
And it wasn't just the bad result for the team.
It was the nuts and bolts of quarter to quarter.
The quarterback that they're relying on for the season just
not making the play. They didn't need him to be superstar,
and especially in a low scoring game, they didn't. But
there were I think you're the screen pass and that
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you're talking about late in the game is a really
good example. They just need a starting quarterback to complete
that pass give us chance.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
Uh But again, I need to take take uh take
responsibility because this was my fault, Like I brought this up.
What if he sucks and and and look what happened, Like,
that's my fault. That's my fault. That's on me.
Speaker 5 (41:29):
Can they play North Carolina next? Can we do that
to the schedule?
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Yeah, that flexible scheduling, Steve, I think we're gonna college
football soon. Uh More on the biggest most shocking story
of the night next
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