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Speaker 3 (00:55):
Well.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Here we are halftime of the the only NBA playoff
game tonight. We'll get to that coming up in a
couple of minutes. Oklahoma sait He leads Denver sixty one
to fifty eight. But my big three part four day
plan has finally been unleashed, and already I have succeeded
my Big three part four day plan. Day one, Hurricanes
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go to the Eastern Conference Finals. Check Day two, Knicks
go to the Eastern Conference Finals. TBA TBA tight Shirt,
We don't know. We got to wait on miss No,
I'm signing it in.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
You're putting him in? Are you're putting out baby? You know?
I'll call Adam Silver.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
We don't need to play the game Alex tight Shirt,
who doesn't really know what sport. The next play says
the Knicks are in the Eastern Conference Final.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
You don't have to tell him that first part.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Well, I want to say, like, you know, you're coming
at it from like you're not biased or anything. It's like, hey,
he doesn't even know, but he's putting them in.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
So nonsports sports perspective you need.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
You should be you know in twenty twenty five, in
ten years, if you became commissioner of a sports league,
I would not be surprised, Right, what was your what
was your what was your big thing in your In
your interview, I told him I didn't really know sports
all that well, and they hired me.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
You start your interview off with I'm better than Manfred.
I don't hire you. Oh that's kind of easy, though,
that's not hard to beat, right, I.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Don't know, but I mean that.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I think the guy would sit there and you say
I'm better than Manfe would go You know how many
resumes I got here, A guy saying they're better than Manford.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Ran away better than Manfred?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
How do you how do you see?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
You know, you know how many other people came and
sat in that chair today and told me they were
better than Manfred every single But you wear at the
minimum of thirty fifth in the last half hour.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
How do you stay?
Speaker 4 (02:36):
I think Manfred goes on interviews saying the same thing,
aren't you Rob Manford?
Speaker 3 (02:41):
No, no, not me? And I want another job away
from baseball because I hate it.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
And then he lets out a fart and they don't
hire him. Oh because the guy doing the hiring smelled,
you know, ketch up and onions.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I really wonder if how many people have had that
happen to them. Yeah, I ripped a big fart in
the interview and I didn't get the job like I
thought it was to get it.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
And then I farted and I didn't get the job.
I wonder I really wanted.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
That at because there's nothing you can do, especially if
you know odoriferously it gets out there. It's like, Okay,
the guy doing or the person doing the interviewing knows
it's not them, Okay, so it must be you, And
all right, you let one go. All right, let me
put him check mark next to your name here, guys
to eliminate.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
So three part plans.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
So today, the Hurricanes, tomorrow the next to the Eastern
Conference Finals.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Sunday, a three day met sweep of the Yankee. Everything.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
I'm like an evil person from from a James Bond movie.
Everything is going according to plans books. I bet all
my evil plans. I'm feeling pretty good right now. I'm
waiting Saturday night, when the Mets have won the first
two against the Yankees. They're gonna want to approach me
about paying me out. I'm gonna say, okay, pay me
out in McDonald's.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Mobile, McDonald's, pay me out in mobile McDonald's McDonalds.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
I wonder if I could win that, Like, could you
win that somehow?
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Like if you like beat Donald Trump up? Maybe, if if.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
You like no, but if you like cut out enough
boxtops or some box tops or like you know, save
all them, like uh, I used to do it in
the eighties with the because Pam's grandpa had Oh my goodness,
Pam's grandpa used to smoke Marlboro reds right like well,
yoh yeah, like he smoked Marble reds. And if you
saved enough of the it was like either the coupon
code or something off of the cartons of cigarettes. If
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you saved enough, you got one of those like calfskin
tan jackets with like the really like with the sheep
skin on the inside and the leather on the outside,
and you look like you're you know, hey, I'm I'm
I'm I run an oil rig or I'm working outdoors
in Texas, like like he got one of those because
he smoked so many, so many Marlboro cigarettes, he was
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able to exchange them in and able to get that jacket.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
I remember going to.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Visit them, like one of the first times when I
went back to Michigan and I said, oh, I would
have tried this jacket on it. They're like, yeah, that's
Grandpa's Marlboro jacket, Like oh yeah, and I put it on, like,
oh my.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
God, this thing stinks.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
I can't even wear it.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
I've known you the how long Jason and I had
no idea Pam's dad was the Marborough man.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
No grandpa, Grandpa, no pa. No, Pam's dad doesn't know
her grandpa. Like it was like he was like he
was like a chainsmoker. Like it was like it was
a smoke and then it was, you know, another cigarette
burning on the end of it. But man, he had
enough for all those box tops to get that jacket.
I was like, I'll wear this, but it's got to
be dry cleaned like three times. I be like, like,
it's like this has to go through and then I'm
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gonna put it. But I just cleaned it for you. No, no,
you had to do it again. I'll come back and
get it on Saturday. And then I come back Saturda.
Say no, one more time. I'm gonna smell it. It's
got to go back one more time. That's how it's
gonna go. So my three part plant is work.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
We speaking of the Marborough man. Jason, he's here now, So.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Marlboro man is here. Smoke. Oh, there he is. There's
my Carmen.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
There's I had that clothing too. I was trying to
get it out of the dry cleaning okay.
Speaker 6 (05:53):
They did not want to give it back. They said
that's been outlawed.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Oh okay, all right, just just you know, just make
sure you get there. You know you have the stuff.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
For the right thing.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
Well sometimes you know, you had to have the shame
you walked in with marble clothing and they're like, we
can't you just go down the street and get something else.
It's like, why are your parents sending you here advertising
for cigarettes? Like free food, free uh, free merch and
and they smoked so they earned it.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Do me a favorite. Run down to the corner, get
grandma a pack of cigarettes. Door. Just tell them who
you are, tell me my grandson. He'll sell them to you.
But I don't know about that grandma.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Now he knows me. It's fine. Just tell them who
you are. He'll know it's for me. Bring it back
and everything will be fine.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Just were you.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
Watching me as a child, because that's exactly what used
to happen.
Speaker 6 (06:37):
Nah, they know you.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
And then i'd get a couple of packs of baseball
cards to really throw things off.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
But I think he's smoking because look he's he's he's
not very tall. He must be doing something to stunt
his growth. He must be going back and smoking all
these things before he gets them back home.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
He must keep telling everybody he watched Charlie huffcards for reasons.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
He's clipping a pack out of that.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
That's my fee. I go down to get the UH
cart and said it's I got one pack.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
All right, it's the big fee.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Uh So second half underway between the Thunder and the
Nuggets sixty two to sixty one, Denver with the lead.
The big story in this game so far tonight, uh
Shake Gildes Alexander leading the way for the Thunder to
no one's surprise with fourteen points, but also surprise in
a game in which Shake Gildess Alexander and the Thunder
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can go to the Western Conference Finals or the Nuggets
can keep it alive with a win at home. Somehow,
Shake Gildess Alexander, who has not fouled out of a.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Game this year, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Has four fouls in the first half. I don't know
how that happens. I don't know, I really I don't.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
I don't know how.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Jalen Brunson, who's fouled out of one game all year,
fouls out of a game early in the fourth quarter
against South I don't know, man, I don't know how
it is I expect it. I don't know. I just
I just accept it.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Now.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
I've gotten to the point where, Okay, I feel like
I've just been beaten down. You've made me accept this
over a long period of time about how NBA officiating
and the playoffs are going to go and series being
extended to the player. Okay, I'm just gonna accept it now.
I accepted Brunson last night. I accepted Towns with four
fouls in the first four seconds of the game, and
I'll accept Shake Gildess Alexander with four fouls tonight in
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a game in which the Thunder can win and go
to the Western Conference Final.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
Jason, it's the acceptance, just like all of those folks
told you to do after the draft lottery.
Speaker 6 (08:27):
There is nothing to see here.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
There's statistically one point eight percent chance that this could happen.
And if you go in the last forty years, every
time there was a generational player or opportunity to resurrect
the franchise involved tada.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
It worked. But there's no conspiracy, nothing to see here.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Likewise, in this situation, hey man, it's just the officials
are calling them the way they see them. Like Rick
Flair used to talk about Tommy Young. I don't like him,
but he calls them like he sees them. So all
of a sudden, those handsy guards and the these big closeout moments,
all those reach and falls that they probably should have
been called for all year.
Speaker 6 (09:05):
Long, Tada, there they are on this night.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
I mean, does that fourth fall on Shay Gildess Alexander
pretty clear fall? But I bet if we went through
the Subruta film of eighty two regular season games, probably
got away with that a couple hundred times.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
I mean, look, this is and it's not even like
the stages of grief. I've just said, you know what, fine,
I'm accepting this. I fought you know, I kind of
feel like this right right, Like Michael Fabiano, big big
fantasy sports inside it. But I've known him for you know,
a dozen years now, Like he's he's the worst fantasy
trader in the world, right, Like what he does. First
of all, he tries to low ball you all the time,
(09:43):
like yeah, no, oh, you should, right, try to get
at least some value, right right exactly? Hillo, Wait, okay,
But what he does is he is relentless. He is
relent like every day he will text you, I really
I want Lad mcconki. I'm not training Lad mcconki.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Come on, I'll give you this, this and this. No,
I don't want that. What about this? The No, I
don't want so and so.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Oh but if I change so and so to this,
let's do let No, I'm not trading Land mcconki for that.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
You'd have to give me a better player. No, this
is the offer.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Okay, the next day, so what about that offer for
Land McConkie. I'm like, dude, come on. And there's the
point where I feel like at times, I'm like, okay,
and I know people are like this in fantasy. I'm
just gonna do the trade so they'll stop approaching me
with trades. I don't want to wake up to another time.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
I'll just do. I'll just do a trade just so
I can be done.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
I've accepted that he's never gonna leave me alone until
I make a trade. Maybe that's why you win so
many fantasy leagues. But I've accepted that I'm just gonna
make this trade now, even though I don't want to,
because I don't want to keep going back and forth
on this trade, right, And that's kind of where I
am with the officiating NBA playoffs, right for years has
been how can you do this? I don't understand how
players who really don't commit fouls are suddenly in foul
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trouble early in a game. And sometimes it's as simple
as giving a guy two quick ones, right, and then
you don't need to you don't need to call anything
for a while because for the rest of the game
or the rest of the first half, they are playing
as less aggressively than they would because they don't want
to get that third foul. Sometimes Hey, quick whistle, quick whistle,
and we just and we see it. And there's so
many times, like it's been like fifteen or twenty years
(11:10):
now of big time physical and visual evidence and guys
like Scott Foster getting assigned to extend series, Like I'm
really I'm at the point where I'm just like, you
know what, it's no use fighting it anymore because it's
just gonna happen. And when you get to a point
where a team is up three to two and a
team is playing and the team losing is playing at home,
it's a three to one series and the team is
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playing at home, Guess who's gonna get the calls? And
guess whose players are gonna wind up in foul trouble
when they're never in foul troubled all all season again,
Jalen brunts and Shake Gilders Alexander two of the top
five players in the NBA brunts and fouls out last
night with the Nicks up three to one and the
Celtics playing at home, and you got SGA four fouls
in the first half, when the Nuggets are playing at
home with a chance to tie the series and send
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it to Game seven.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
I've accepted it. I've just accepted it and we can
move on.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
But to be fair, doesn't it add just an extra
layer of drama and angst?
Speaker 6 (12:02):
Right? I mean, you know you're alive. You get the
endorphin rush of man.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
They called another foul? How's this gonna play out? When's
number five? How long does he have to sit? All
the drama? Maybe you had a prop bet on one
of the guys on the bench. I don't know all
of those Look I'm not Draymond Green.
Speaker 6 (12:16):
I can say it.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
So all of those things is to say, you know,
it gives that added level of chaos, which, as I
always tell you, I love chaos in between the white lines.
The rest of society follow the rules, damn it. But
inside the white lines of sporting, let's figure out where
the edges are and run with him. And if it
gives us some great conspiracy theories and nonsense to talk about,
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then we win.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
We win.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
But certainly two guards suddenly in deep foul trouble early
in games, all you can do.
Speaker 6 (12:46):
Is just nod and go yep.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
Just like the revival of King of the Hill, I
expect a lot of guys standing around going yep.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
And that's exactly what we're getting here.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
I mean, really, that's where I'm at. I like to see,
here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
And this maybe tells me, like, am I getting too
old now that I'm just accepting this, like I'm not
one of the Hey, let's go and let's protest, and
let's do something, and let's write letters and let's make
phone calls and call your congressman to find out why
the official of the NBA playoffs.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Is not great. You don't have to go, you just
call Rick Carlisle. I'm sure he's talking about it all right.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Well, Jason at least your players want to be there,
unlike Caleb Williams.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Yeah no, Well, listen, we'll get to Caleb Williams. I
mean I was saving Caleb Williams, buddy, saving that.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
I told you I didn't blame him. I told you
you're guy, didn't blame him. But we'll get to that
all of some of the other stuff. Shut your mouth.
But in terms of you know, this type of type
of atmosphere and officials making themselves part of the game,
it's inevitable, right, We lament it every time we get
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into the nc DOUAA conference we get a conference tournament.
For one, right, there's always that suspect call of a
team that's on the fringe. I don't know, they get
one round for they're in the conference conference tournament. Maybe
they'll get an outside chance at getting off the bubble
and getting in and all of a sudden, you have
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a couple of calls at the final final minutes, or
maybe it's a no show effort after halftime by the
higher seeded squad. Then we get to the NBA playoffs
and we see this where there are minutes where it's
like you can do pretty much everything you can do
running shoulder tackles like you're Ed Reid in the secondary
and nobody gives a damn. But then you reach and
(14:29):
even if I mean that fall on Jokisch right not
to take it away from the guards for a moment.
But all he did was standing the guy's way and
impat his progress.
Speaker 6 (14:38):
Did he touch you? No? But it goes down as
a fall. Why that wasn't challenged?
Speaker 5 (14:42):
And if that comes back to hauntum, then Adalmanton is
no longer your temporary coach. He's back in the unemployment line.
But for these the officials, yeah, we just can't wait.
And maybe it's because we have a bigger magnifying glass
out waiting to jump on with baited breath, every move
and every bit of minutia in the playoffs because the
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margins are so narrow.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
I just like it. I think it's just our.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
Safe space to complain and nothing has to be affected, right,
Adam Silver's not gonna acknowledge it. You might get a
typed up two minute report saying me sorry, hanging on
your wall.
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Speaker 3 (17:25):
A big day. It's a big morning.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
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Speaker 3 (17:45):
You know what I read? You know what I read,
and this seems to me back. I mean, I'm not
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Speaker 1 (17:50):
Not a doctor, but I read this that if you
sleep on your left side for the majority of the night,
you will wake up more likely to have a morning
constitutional Who paid for this study on your left side?
On your left side?
Speaker 3 (18:04):
I mean, I don't know. I guess it was sleep
on your left side. Man.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
All I gotta do is go to the bathroom. It
slept on my right side. Haven't gone to the bathroom
in a week. I don't know what's happening here.
Speaker 6 (18:12):
That seems like an awful lot of government waist.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
But yeah, who leads the Constitution in the morning?
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Uh well, while we still have it? I read it,
so it's it's all good.
Speaker 6 (18:23):
Do we still have it? Uh?
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Yeah, yeah, I looked. It's it's still in eighte seven seven.
It's still behind me behind glass. Yeah yeah, at the
Pentagon it's still there, is it?
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Not like just Tupac Now, it's just a hologram. It's
you're supposed to break the glass in case of an emergency.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
It's a holog Isn't that what he did in one
of those National Treasure movies, Like he stole the constitutions
from like.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Right, yeah, thats Cage, right yeah, Cage.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Come on, don't give me Nick Cage tight shirt? Like
you didn't know it was Nick Cage.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
I did not Harvey.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
All you do is break Nick Cage is your entire life?
How do you know? What do you mean you didn't
know that? Of course?
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I thought, have you ever picked people up at a
claiming to be Nick Cage's kid or Nick Cage himself?
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Speaker 3 (19:20):
Up a pretty interesting thing here.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
The first bits of video film evidence are out of
Nicholas Cage's John Madden right, the big you know, the
big John Madden movie that's gonna come out that deals
with his later life. At the beginning of the video game,
It's like, hey, you know, we could do our own
social network, you know, Yeah, let's do that.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Yeah, to be our own social network about the beginning of
the Madden game. Yeah, our own big shorts. What we're
gonna do.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
And when I saw this, I'm like, you've got to
be kidding me. Nick Cage is John. Like, I've seen
Nick Cage be good and things. I've also seen him
be absolutely terrible. And I mean not in not in
like you know, in karaoke bars, like, but I've seen
him be absolutely terrible, and he's kind of a caricature
(20:06):
of himself. But I was thinking about this today and
I'm like, well, Madden kind of became a caricature of
himself because he became the video game guy. This is
not like the entire life of John Madden. This is
Madden at the end of his coaching career and into
the beginning of the video game. And I'm like, Okay,
he was kind of a larger than life guy. He
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would the way he would tell me people remember him
being on the air, and crazy things he would say
that seem crazy back then now seem pretty tame, but hey,
he was the first of the real superstar TV analysts.
So he comes on, he does his own thing, and
he starts as his Cottage Industry video game. And that's
kind of what this movie is gonna take place on.
And all of a sudden I stopped and I go,
(20:48):
more than I think about it, Nicholas Cage is the
absolute perfect choice to play him, right, I mean they
have him dressed up crazy, right, they got ok he
looks like Jason Cole. Yeah, they got him with the
well sure, they got him in the you know.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
In the blue pants.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
And I'm like, you know what, I started thinking, going,
wait a minute, this is genius. Does he may be
like the perfect guy to play John Madden? Like I
wonder if the director or the you know, the the
company that was putting this movie out said hey, I
called me crazy, just let's just have a meeting here.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
But I think it's Nicholas ca Do you want to.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Hear me out, hear me out, hear me out, hear
me out. No, No, hear me out, hear me out. Okay,
because that's kind of what Nick Cage is. And I'll
tell you I'm now I'm excited.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
I wasn't excited to see it.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
But now the more I think about it and think
about the kind of character, what they're gonna do. You know,
the part of John Madden's life they're dealing with where
he became this big media star and and and and
started a video game. Like, Okay, I think Nicholas Cage
is the best guy to play him. Now the big
thing for me is gonna be can I get past
the famous guy playing another famous guy?
Speaker 7 (21:54):
Right?
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Am I ever gonna get past that? This is Nick
Cage playing John Madden? Right, Like Austin Butler was so
unknown when he played Elvis, and he looked like it
was like, wow, Austin Butler, he was Elvis, right, Like, Okay, you.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Kind of need somebody unknown, Like, am I gonna get
past that?
Speaker 6 (22:09):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (22:09):
It's Nick Cage playing John madd That's my one big fear,
because it would be for anybody, no matter how good
you are in a role, like, Am I gonna get
past that? But I can't believe I come around to
the fact that I think Nick Cage is now the
perfect choice to play things I didn't think I'd say,
like four months ago when this thing came out, He's
the perfect guy to play John.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
Matt But what's interesting, right is, and we've seen some
video of the coaching career of John Madden. Well, what's
normally over the top of it John Facenda's voice. Right,
there's not a lot of Hey here, here's the footage
of him talking and motivating whatever. There's some but generally
not what is thrust forward. It's the later career where
we watch him and his animated self in a booth.
(22:48):
Plus the game of course, but up against what Pat
summerl was pass god you know, and all that, and
you know murder she wrote and everything else. But we
think about all of our our best and brightest, most successful,
uh and most well known of sports media personalities. I mean,
(23:09):
Dick vy Tale leaned into the diaper dandy and catchphrases
and everything else, Bill Raftery into onions and all.
Speaker 6 (23:17):
You waited for him. When's he gonna say it? What's
the over under that we get one?
Speaker 5 (23:21):
You know that kind of thing, uh, all the way
through and you can pick and choose the rest of
your favorites. But all that to say, yeah, Nick Cage
coming over the top, I'm all in. I still haven't
gotten through that thing. He did with uh Pedro Pascal.
But uh well, I'll get to that eventually. That that
was kind of an odd movie, and I think I
(23:41):
needed to be in the right altered state to watch it.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
So that the movies, that is the best way to
watch them, which I'm not I'm not condoning anything, but
sometimes the best ways to.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Watch if if you're altered, you're altered somehow to watch.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
A Nick Cage movie the finest talents.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Oh boy, fate wow favorite Nick Cage.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Oh no, I'm on drug.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Oh oh no, I just said altered. I didn't say
what that meant. It could be too much dia.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Coke wasn't born yesterday.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
It could be too much diaconke beer beer beer beer
because or whatever the hell Willie Nelson is shilling these days.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Like if I was doing this movie, I would say, Okay,
I gotta see if Frank Caliendo can act. If he
can act, the role is his right, but I don't know,
like he's a comedian, because if Frank Kellio connect, he's
John Madden, right, I would say, okay, this is John MADDI.
I have no problem seeing that this is John Matt
But I don't know what I would bring him in
get a screen test.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
And do you think he screen tested? You think you
might have, like Frank Kelly, Hey, this is my role.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
I think he's been doing that bit long enough that
they needed a new face.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
What part of the movie, Yeah, speaking of new face,
what part of the movie? Does his face come off
in this one?
Speaker 5 (24:51):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (24:51):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Well here's the thing. Well, I don't want to tell you,
so I know a spoiler alert. At the midway point
of the movie, he and Pat Summer all change faces
and it's really really cool to see. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah,
travolt is great. Merton Hanks still on his feet.
Speaker 6 (25:07):
Bam.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Heck of a play.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Like that's what that's what happens. It gets real, baby
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on YouTube. Now, speaking of crazy stuff out of the NFL,
(25:29):
this story that is going to fuel us tonight next week,
the week after the preseason and into the regular season.
Seth Wickersham ESPN Any any time a story begins, Seth
wickers we go, oh boy, somebody said something that they
don't want out there.
Speaker 8 (25:47):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
The famous ESPN centric author has a book coming out
which he chronicles what it's like to be a quarterback
at different levels of football. Right it's called American Kings
Biography of the Quarterback. He deals with quarterbacks in high school, college,
and the NFL. And part of this book offers an
(26:10):
inside look into Caleb Williams state of mind about getting
drafted by the Bears last year. And already there is
a bombshell of stuff in this book that Seth Wickershon
wrote that illustrates some of, but not all, of the
following things regarding Caleb Williams and going number one overall
(26:31):
to the Bears Number one. Caleb Williams was so concerned
about being picked by the Bears he and his family
weighed circumventing the entire draft. They talk with lawyers try
to figure out a way around the collective bargaining agreement
while they considered signing with the United Football League and
after a year becoming a free agent and being to
signed and being able to sign wherever you want to
(26:53):
quote from Carl Williams, Chicago is the place quarterbacks go
to die. That's leading up to the money Before the
NFL Draft, Caleb Williams wondering aloud to other people and
people he sought their counsel for quote, do I want
to go there? I don't think I can do it
with Waldron. This is just a part of what has
been thrown out there for Caleb Williams with the Bears.
(27:18):
There's more things with Carl williamsant maybe not Carl. The
truth Williams Tjan he really wanted to give Caleb Williams
a chance to choose his future employer. Told several agents,
I don't want my son playing for the Bears again.
Looked into labor lawyers and agents to try to see
(27:38):
if I could figure out a way to get out
of the NFL draft. Says the CBA is the worst
piece of blank I've ever read, the worst in sports history.
This all according to Seth Wickersham's book about quarterbacks. The
first thing I'm going to say is this, And I
know it's obvious, but I've said it for so many years,
and I will say it again the next time an
(28:01):
athlete's family member slash parent slash significant other weighs in
on an athlete's career and it's a positive. It will
be the first time. There has never been a time
when an athlete significant other, parent, relative, whoever it is,
has weighed and become part of a story and it's
been good news for the athlete. And here it is
(28:23):
clearly this is not helping Caleb Williams. Carl Williams sounds
like the original sports dad who knows just enough information
to be dangerous. Right, I'm gonna talk to agents. I'm
gonna say this. I'm gonna say we don't want to
go to the Bears. He really wanted to go to
the Vikings according to the book. But this is where
again it's never good when someone's parent, family member, significant
(28:45):
other gets involved. It never paints the athlete in a
favorable light. It always seems to be someone working at
odds to what the goals should.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Be, and it never is a positive.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
And now Caleb Williams has to navigate the rest of
the preseason and this season with hey, you didn't really
want to be here, and his teammates know he really
didn't want to be there. And even though it's new
coaching staff, the fans know he didn't want to be there.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
The media knows he didn't want to be there.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
And now because of this, now he's got to navigate
a situation in which if he doesn't start off hot
out of the gate and put.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Up big numbers and the Bears win games.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
It's gonna get so awful that the Bears are gonna
have to move on from him, and he's gonna be
two years in Chicago and have to go someplace else.
Doesn't matter, there's a new coaching staff there, makes no doubt.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
I feel bad.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
All the good things Mike carbon I said about your
Bears going into that. I feel so bad because I
said so many good things and willas have a great year,
and now this is out there and all that Carl
Williams and Caleb Williams have done with this whole behind
the scenes, we're gonna try to circumvent the draft and
all of this. All this has done is piss off
an entire city against a quarterback. And it's not where Hey,
(29:53):
we have to suck it up because Caleb Williams is
our guy. No, it's if this doesn't work in the
first four games, we'll move on without We'll go to
a new quarterback next year. We don't need this guy.
If he hates the team, doesn't want to be here,
didn't want to be here, try to find a way
to not be a member of the Bears. He has
put his starting quarterback career at the Bears on a
four week clock that begins the beginning of September.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
A couple things to it. I can do a forty
five minute monologue if you want to just go.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
We got plenty.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
But buddy, we're gonna talk about this all night. Man,
you're a train wreck of a team. We're gonna talk
about it all night. Man, don't worry about it.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
And man still never got that coin flip. It was
a fifty to fifty proposition to fix. Didn't need to
have to be one point eight percent man, fifty to
fifty when the coin flip with the.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
With the MAVs.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
The first thing is, uh, it's it's the the grown
up be the grown ups in the room. We've all
talked about the draft, and and how from a business
perspective and and and life and process that it really
doesn't make any sense, right. I don't think anybody at
the deep down inside really disagrees with what Caleb Williams
(31:04):
dad is saying, saying the quiet part out loud, right,
going back to all those guys that tried to challenge
why do I got to stay in school for three
years all those years ago, right, and every once in a.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
While that would percolate.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
Now you make enough money to where it's like, I'll
just go to another school if I'm unhappy, and I'll
bide my time before I go. But don't think that
at some point we won't be fighting about that again.
But all of that to say, it's the opportunity to
say that the part out loud and against the Bears organization,
(31:36):
a lame duck coach, an offensive coordinator that I tried
to tell you last year, I had no vote of
confidence no matter how many bells and whistles you put.
If you got a guy who's calling the shots that
doesn't know what he's doing, bad things man. And that
doesn't mean that Caleb Williams is blameless, because that's the bigger,
the other shoe that needs to he see it.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
That's why he seems.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Like just as big as I was on built with
my dad not wanting to go to Chica, he's put
a clock on his time with the Bears.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
No, so like there's more to it from the play
and whatever else, and a very large thing that they're
not saying in this process, but setting up the Bears ownership,
GM and coaching staff as fall guys going back before
last year, I think you'd have a lot of folks that.
Speaker 6 (32:21):
Go, yeah, it kind of makes sense.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Exit out about a Fresca exit swallowing dome. We'll have
more on this story.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Again, we're just scratching the surface of what's going to
be a huge NFL telling you it's going to go
throughout and into the regular season. That's how big that
Caleb Williams' story is. But first, let's find out what's
trending in the wide world of sports. From a man
who's been called the Caleb Williams of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
I think that says.
Speaker 8 (32:47):
I think Fox Sports Radio would come across worse than
me in that situation.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
His family has all said Ilo doesn't want to be here,
yet still he is here.
Speaker 8 (32:57):
Well, it's actually on that note, my wife is standing
by with a comment. Let's find out how she feels
about this. Lone cron can't close his effing mouth.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
No, I think that says it all right there.
Speaker 6 (33:10):
Again, that's your wife.
Speaker 8 (33:12):
That is a live comment from my wife. Let's see
if she lets she if she feels any differently. Long
cron can't close his effing mouth.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
Yeah, yeah, well, story of my life, ladies.
Speaker 8 (33:24):
Chef, among other things that can't be repeated on Fox
Sports Radio. We're two and a half minutes into the
fourth quarter in Game six of the Western Conference semi
Finals and Denver holds a ninety three to eighty six
lead over Oklahoma City, which leaves the series three games
to two. Denver has outscored the Thunder thirty seven to
twenty five so far in the second half. Jamal Murray
(33:46):
with twenty five points in the contest. Nikoleokicch eighteen points,
thirteen rebounds and six assists in the Stanley Cup playoffs.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Let's set the tone in here now.
Speaker 8 (33:56):
The Winnipeg Jets and Dallas Stars are scoreless after the
first period of Game five in Winnipeg, with Dallas leading
the series three games to one. Earlier, the Carolina Hurricanes
and Washington Capitals were tied at one late in the
third period. Here was Mike Maniscalco on w CMC Sveetchnic cough.
Speaker 7 (34:16):
You'll get it right back from Walker Penny's bards my shirt,
bangel O, Gray Svetchnick. He eats Thompson, Hey, Carolina for
a minute fifty nine to go, takes a two.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
To one lead.
Speaker 8 (34:30):
They would add an empty netter for a three to
one victory to claim the series four games to one
at advance to the Eastern Conference Finals against either the
Florida Panthers or Toronto Maple Leafs, but most likely the
Florida Panthers. Baseball right now, the Los Angeles Dodgers up
three to one over the Athletics and the top of
the second ending thanks in part two to run home
run by Max Munsey in the bottom of the first inning.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
Guys, thanks a bunch.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Ilo.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
I'll call you Isilo? Does your wife call you Ilo?
Or no?
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Uh?
Speaker 8 (35:00):
Only when she's being sarcastic, which is actually most of
the time.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Okay, she calls him bleeping Ilo, Hey, bleeping Ilo, close
your blank in mouth?
Speaker 3 (35:10):
All right? So coming up, Yes, we'll have.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
More on this huge, incendiary Caleb Williams story. I'm telling
you this is now your narrative throughout the offseason and
into the regular season, You're sick and tier Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Now it's going to be Caleb Williams. That's next, right here,
Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
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Speaker 1 (35:38):
Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best friend
Mike Harmon. We got more in Caleb Williams coming up
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Speaker 3 (36:16):
Do we have to play?
Speaker 6 (36:24):
Got it done?
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Okay?
Speaker 6 (36:27):
Semetch the cough All right?
Speaker 1 (36:28):
So tyser, you gotta stop building grunts and orcs and
and why is that not mean?
Speaker 4 (36:33):
Because you're you're the guy that plays it Okay, So
then all the bad takes her from you.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Then all right, well I thought I thought that. I
thought we talked about that. I thought we that was acceptance. Okay, yeah,
soo we had that.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Uh so here we go.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Here's the play of the day sketch the cough you'll
get it right back from Walter.
Speaker 7 (36:50):
Nny scores ship day goal Gray sketch the call. He
beats Thompson in Carolina for a minute fifty nine to go,
takes a two to one lead.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
It's almost like you said, fifty yeah, you're right for us,
but a little bit of fisticuffs for Andre schweitznikoff Man's
pall tell you, I was sweating my you know what
off the end of this game. And you know, listen, listen,
my team is going to the Eastern Conference finals. The
The only difference in this year here's Carolina here where
they're not in years past, is they are simply just
getting the timely, grinding goal that they didn't get in
(37:27):
the past. That's all it is, right, And Freddy Anderson's
been great, but but all it is when like the
Hurricane's one of the best teams in hockey every single year,
but they get to the playoffs and it's always when
they need. When you need to get that grind goal
in a two to one game or a three to
two game or a one nothing game, they just didn't
get it and they're getting it now. I wish I
could tell you it's more scientific than that, but that's
(37:48):
that's kind of what it is.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
I'm happy to be this though.
Speaker 6 (37:51):
That's what it is.
Speaker 5 (37:52):
Yeah, I'm sweating and I'm gripping and whatever. You had
a three to one lead, Yeah, yesterday, I'm calm, I'm collected.
Speaker 6 (37:58):
I expected to Offich just suck. I expect you. Is
it just different levels of dissociation or what? No?
Speaker 3 (38:08):
Hockey? Hockey home ice means.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Home ice means the least in hockey than it does
in any other sport, right really, I mean baseball you
can't get but now the last few years though, with
teams and the final innings of games, but hockey there
is so little home ice advantage. Like a team you
could be down to zip and go on the road
and win a game, right, you can do it. It's
not it's not impossible. If the other goalie gets hot,
(38:32):
there's nothing you can do, right, Because if you're a
volume team throwing the pucket the net, if a goalie
gets hot like that, that's one guy that can flip
a series more than anybody, more than a quarterback in
the NFL, more than any more than a pitcher in
Major League Baseball. If a goalie gets hot, sometimes you
just throw your arms over.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
What can you do? Right?
Speaker 1 (38:50):
So it's even though it's a three to one lead, Okay,
the odds are a team's you know, it's gonna win
three in a row is not great, but still it's
not like it's it's the impossibleness or how how how
less often it happens in the NBA, or a team
does this in the NFL or Major League Baseball.
Speaker 5 (39:06):
Doesn't like having one point eight percent chance to win
a lottery? Yeah yeah, I mean, come on, it is
it is. It's what one point chance and you win
that lottery. That's how I feel.
Speaker 6 (39:19):
All the folks that try to dismiss anything.
Speaker 5 (39:21):
It's like the league is great, fun of the league.
You're not tawing happy fun ball.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
And this may not be what the NHL wants to hear,
but boy, I'll tell you, and I've said it for
the last week and a half, it seems like the
Hurricanes and the Oilers are on a collision course with
the Stanley Cup Final. Do the rematch from fifteen years
ago and the Hurricanes one and seven. It just seems
like these two teams are on that course. Edmonton starts
every game up to zip I feel like you turn
on the TV. Yes, McDavid and dry Sidle have already scored,
(39:50):
setting up each other's goal, and the Oilers lead to
nothing like that's every game.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
You guys, can't beat the Panthers, that's your problem.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Well, in other years, yes, in other years, yes, Now
this year, let's see, let's see, we's got to stop Kachuk.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
From sky but they're not gonna pull it out.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
No, no, no, come on. They lost it. They lost
eleven to one last night. Come on, that's it.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
The Maple Leafs getting this far has to be a
big victory. It's got to be.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
You know, they got their core four core five now,
so okay, things are looking good, but getting this far
is like, okay, you know, this is a victory for us.
Speaker 6 (40:21):
It's a hell of a run. Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
But so there's your play of the day, and there
it is in the Eastern Conference Finals, to be joined
tomorrow by the New York Mix.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
It is happening.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
But straight ahead, we get back into the biggest story. Look,
this NFL story involving Caleb Williams is just so large
and it's going to it's it's going to take over
the narrative of this season like Aaron Rodgers took over
the narrative of the offseason the last couple of years.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
That's how big a deal this is. You have the
number one pick in the draft, now.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
Seemingly at odds with his team, a team he never
wanted to go to, and now it's in print. Finally
Patriots to saying at least Seth Berckersham's got somebody else
he can go up because trouble for We get back
into that big story next right here, Jason and Mike
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Speaker 1 (00:55):
Here we are halftime of the the only NBA playoff
game tonight. We'll get to that coming up in a
couple of minutes. Oklahoma sait He leads Denver sixty one
to fifty eight. But my big three part four day
plan has finally been unleashed, and already I have succeeded
my Big three part four day plan. Day one, Hurricanes
(01:19):
go to the Eastern Conference Finals. Check Day two, Knicks
go to the Eastern Conference Finals. TBA TBA tight Shirt,
We don't know. We got to wait on miss No,
I'm signing it in.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
You're putting him in? Are you're putting out baby? You know?
I'll call Adam Silver.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
We don't need to play the game Alex tight Shirt,
who doesn't really know what sport. The next play says
the Knicks are in the Eastern Conference Final.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
You don't have to tell him that first part.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Well, I want to say, like, you know, you're coming
at it from like you're not biased or anything. It's like, hey,
he doesn't even know, but he's putting them in.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
So nonsports sports perspective you need.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
You should be you know in twenty twenty five, in
ten years, if you became commissioner of a sports league,
I would not be surprised, Right, what was your what
was your what was your big thing in your In
your interview, I told him I didn't really know sports
all that well, and they hired me.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
You start your interview off with I'm better than Manfred.
I don't hire you. Oh that's kind of easy, though,
that's not hard to beat, right, I.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Don't know, but I mean that.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I think the guy would sit there and you say
I'm better than Manfe would go You know how many
resumes I got here, A guy saying they're better than Manford.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Ran away better than Manfred?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
How do you how do you see?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
You know, you know how many other people came and
sat in that chair today and told me they were
better than Manfred every single But you wear at the
minimum of thirty fifth in the last half hour.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
How do you stay?
Speaker 4 (02:36):
I think Manfred goes on interviews saying the same thing,
aren't you Rob Manford?
Speaker 3 (02:41):
No, no, not me? And I want another job away
from baseball because I hate it.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
And then he lets out a fart and they don't
hire him. Oh because the guy doing the hiring smelled,
you know, ketch up and onions.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I really wonder if how many people have had that
happen to them. Yeah, I ripped a big fart in
the interview and I didn't get the job like I
thought it was to get it.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
And then I farted and I didn't get the job.
I wonder I really wanted.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
That at because there's nothing you can do, especially if
you know odoriferously it gets out there. It's like, Okay,
the guy doing or the person doing the interviewing knows
it's not them, Okay, so it must be you, And
all right, you let one go. All right, let me
put him check mark next to your name here, guys
to eliminate.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
So three part plans.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
So today, the Hurricanes, tomorrow the next to the Eastern
Conference Finals.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Sunday, a three day met sweep of the Yankee. Everything.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
I'm like an evil person from from a James Bond movie.
Everything is going according to plans books. I bet all
my evil plans. I'm feeling pretty good right now. I'm
waiting Saturday night, when the Mets have won the first
two against the Yankees. They're gonna want to approach me
about paying me out. I'm gonna say, okay, pay me
out in McDonald's.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Mobile, McDonald's, pay me out in mobile McDonald's McDonalds.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
I wonder if I could win that, Like, could you
win that somehow?
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Like if you like beat Donald Trump up? Maybe, if if.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
You like no, but if you like cut out enough
boxtops or some box tops or like you know, save
all them, like uh, I used to do it in
the eighties with the because Pam's grandpa had Oh my goodness,
Pam's grandpa used to smoke Marlboro reds right like well,
yoh yeah, like he smoked Marble reds. And if you
saved enough of the it was like either the coupon
code or something off of the cartons of cigarettes. If
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you saved enough, you got one of those like calfskin
tan jackets with like the really like with the sheep
skin on the inside and the leather on the outside,
and you look like you're you know, hey, I'm I'm
I'm I run an oil rig or I'm working outdoors
in Texas, like like he got one of those because
he smoked so many, so many Marlboro cigarettes, he was
(04:45):
able to exchange them in and able to get that jacket.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
I remember going to.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Visit them, like one of the first times when I
went back to Michigan and I said, oh, I would
have tried this jacket on it. They're like, yeah, that's
Grandpa's Marlboro jacket, Like oh yeah, and I put it on, like,
oh my.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
God, this thing stinks.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
I can't even wear it.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
I've known you the how long Jason and I had
no idea Pam's dad was the Marborough man.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
No grandpa, Grandpa, no pa. No, Pam's dad doesn't know
her grandpa. Like it was like he was like he
was like a chainsmoker. Like it was like it was
a smoke and then it was, you know, another cigarette
burning on the end of it. But man, he had
enough for all those box tops to get that jacket.
I was like, I'll wear this, but it's got to
be dry cleaned like three times. I be like, like,
it's like this has to go through and then I'm
(05:27):
gonna put it. But I just cleaned it for you. No, no,
you had to do it again. I'll come back and
get it on Saturday. And then I come back Saturda.
Say no, one more time. I'm gonna smell it. It's
got to go back one more time. That's how it's
gonna go. So my three part plant is work.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
We speaking of the Marborough man. Jason, he's here now, So.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Marlboro man is here. Smoke. Oh, there he is. There's
my Carmen.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
There's I had that clothing too. I was trying to
get it out of the dry cleaning okay.
Speaker 6 (05:53):
They did not want to give it back. They said
that's been outlawed.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Oh okay, all right, just just you know, just make
sure you get there. You know you have the stuff.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
For the right thing.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
Well sometimes you know, you had to have the shame
you walked in with marble clothing and they're like, we
can't you just go down the street and get something else.
It's like, why are your parents sending you here advertising
for cigarettes? Like free food, free uh, free merch and
and they smoked so they earned it.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Do me a favorite. Run down to the corner, get
grandma a pack of cigarettes. Door. Just tell them who
you are, tell me my grandson. He'll sell them to you.
But I don't know about that grandma.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Now he knows me. It's fine. Just tell them who
you are. He'll know it's for me. Bring it back
and everything will be fine.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Just were you.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
Watching me as a child, because that's exactly what used
to happen.
Speaker 6 (06:37):
Nah, they know you.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
And then i'd get a couple of packs of baseball
cards to really throw things off.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
But I think he's smoking because look he's he's he's
not very tall. He must be doing something to stunt
his growth. He must be going back and smoking all
these things before he gets them back home.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
He must keep telling everybody he watched Charlie huffcards for reasons.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
He's clipping a pack out of that.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
That's my fee. I go down to get the UH
cart and said it's I got one pack.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
All right, it's the big fee.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Uh So second half underway between the Thunder and the
Nuggets sixty two to sixty one, Denver with the lead.
The big story in this game so far tonight, uh
Shake Gildes Alexander leading the way for the Thunder to
no one's surprise with fourteen points, but also surprise in
a game in which Shake Gildess Alexander and the Thunder
(07:26):
can go to the Western Conference Finals or the Nuggets
can keep it alive with a win at home. Somehow,
Shake Gildess Alexander, who has not fouled out of a.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Game this year, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Has four fouls in the first half. I don't know
how that happens. I don't know, I really I don't.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
I don't know how.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Jalen Brunson, who's fouled out of one game all year,
fouls out of a game early in the fourth quarter
against South I don't know, man, I don't know how
it is I expect it. I don't know. I just
I just accept it.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Now.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
I've gotten to the point where, Okay, I feel like
I've just been beaten down. You've made me accept this
over a long period of time about how NBA officiating
and the playoffs are going to go and series being
extended to the player. Okay, I'm just gonna accept it now.
I accepted Brunson last night. I accepted Towns with four
fouls in the first four seconds of the game, and
I'll accept Shake Gildess Alexander with four fouls tonight in
(08:19):
a game in which the Thunder can win and go
to the Western Conference Final.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
Jason, it's the acceptance, just like all of those folks
told you to do after the draft lottery.
Speaker 6 (08:27):
There is nothing to see here.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
There's statistically one point eight percent chance that this could happen.
And if you go in the last forty years, every
time there was a generational player or opportunity to resurrect
the franchise involved tada.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
It worked. But there's no conspiracy, nothing to see here.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Likewise, in this situation, hey man, it's just the officials
are calling them the way they see them. Like Rick
Flair used to talk about Tommy Young. I don't like him,
but he calls them like he sees them. So all
of a sudden, those handsy guards and the these big closeout moments,
all those reach and falls that they probably should have
been called for all year.
Speaker 6 (09:05):
Long, Tada, there they are on this night.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
I mean, does that fourth fall on Shay Gildess Alexander
pretty clear fall? But I bet if we went through
the Subruta film of eighty two regular season games, probably
got away with that a couple hundred times.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
I mean, look, this is and it's not even like
the stages of grief. I've just said, you know what, fine,
I'm accepting this. I fought you know, I kind of
feel like this right right, Like Michael Fabiano, big big
fantasy sports inside it. But I've known him for you know,
a dozen years now, Like he's he's the worst fantasy
trader in the world, right, Like what he does. First
of all, he tries to low ball you all the time,
(09:43):
like yeah, no, oh, you should, right, try to get
at least some value, right right exactly? Hillo, Wait, okay,
But what he does is he is relentless. He is
relent like every day he will text you, I really
I want Lad mcconki. I'm not training Lad mcconki.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Come on, I'll give you this, this and this. No,
I don't want that. What about this? The No, I
don't want so and so.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Oh but if I change so and so to this,
let's do let No, I'm not trading Land mcconki for that.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
You'd have to give me a better player. No, this
is the offer.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Okay, the next day, so what about that offer for
Land McConkie. I'm like, dude, come on. And there's the
point where I feel like at times, I'm like, okay,
and I know people are like this in fantasy. I'm
just gonna do the trade so they'll stop approaching me
with trades. I don't want to wake up to another time.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
I'll just do. I'll just do a trade just so
I can be done.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
I've accepted that he's never gonna leave me alone until
I make a trade. Maybe that's why you win so
many fantasy leagues. But I've accepted that I'm just gonna
make this trade now, even though I don't want to,
because I don't want to keep going back and forth
on this trade, right, And that's kind of where I
am with the officiating NBA playoffs, right for years has
been how can you do this? I don't understand how
players who really don't commit fouls are suddenly in foul
(10:48):
trouble early in a game. And sometimes it's as simple
as giving a guy two quick ones, right, and then
you don't need to you don't need to call anything
for a while because for the rest of the game
or the rest of the first half, they are playing
as less aggressively than they would because they don't want
to get that third foul. Sometimes Hey, quick whistle, quick whistle,
and we just and we see it. And there's so
many times, like it's been like fifteen or twenty years
(11:10):
now of big time physical and visual evidence and guys
like Scott Foster getting assigned to extend series, Like I'm
really I'm at the point where I'm just like, you
know what, it's no use fighting it anymore because it's
just gonna happen. And when you get to a point
where a team is up three to two and a
team is playing and the team losing is playing at home,
it's a three to one series and the team is
(11:31):
playing at home, Guess who's gonna get the calls? And
guess whose players are gonna wind up in foul trouble
when they're never in foul troubled all all season again,
Jalen brunts and Shake Gilders Alexander two of the top
five players in the NBA brunts and fouls out last
night with the Nicks up three to one and the
Celtics playing at home, and you got SGA four fouls
in the first half, when the Nuggets are playing at
home with a chance to tie the series and send
(11:52):
it to Game seven.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
I've accepted it. I've just accepted it and we can
move on.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
But to be fair, doesn't it add just an extra
layer of drama and angst?
Speaker 6 (12:02):
Right? I mean, you know you're alive. You get the
endorphin rush of man.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
They called another foul? How's this gonna play out? When's
number five? How long does he have to sit? All
the drama? Maybe you had a prop bet on one
of the guys on the bench. I don't know all
of those Look I'm not Draymond Green.
Speaker 6 (12:16):
I can say it.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
So all of those things is to say, you know,
it gives that added level of chaos, which, as I
always tell you, I love chaos in between the white lines.
The rest of society follow the rules, damn it. But
inside the white lines of sporting, let's figure out where
the edges are and run with him. And if it
gives us some great conspiracy theories and nonsense to talk about,
(12:38):
then we win.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
We win.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
But certainly two guards suddenly in deep foul trouble early
in games, all you can do.
Speaker 6 (12:46):
Is just nod and go yep.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
Just like the revival of King of the Hill, I
expect a lot of guys standing around going yep.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
And that's exactly what we're getting here.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
I mean, really, that's where I'm at. I like to see,
here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
And this maybe tells me, like, am I getting too
old now that I'm just accepting this, like I'm not
one of the Hey, let's go and let's protest, and
let's do something, and let's write letters and let's make
phone calls and call your congressman to find out why
the official of the NBA playoffs.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Is not great. You don't have to go, you just
call Rick Carlisle. I'm sure he's talking about it all right.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Well, Jason at least your players want to be there,
unlike Caleb Williams.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Yeah no, Well, listen, we'll get to Caleb Williams. I
mean I was saving Caleb Williams, buddy, saving that.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
I told you I didn't blame him. I told you
you're guy, didn't blame him. But we'll get to that
all of some of the other stuff. Shut your mouth.
But in terms of you know, this type of type
of atmosphere and officials making themselves part of the game,
it's inevitable, right, We lament it every time we get
(13:49):
into the nc DOUAA conference we get a conference tournament.
For one, right, there's always that suspect call of a
team that's on the fringe. I don't know, they get
one round for they're in the conference conference tournament. Maybe
they'll get an outside chance at getting off the bubble
and getting in and all of a sudden, you have
(14:09):
a couple of calls at the final final minutes, or
maybe it's a no show effort after halftime by the
higher seeded squad. Then we get to the NBA playoffs
and we see this where there are minutes where it's
like you can do pretty much everything you can do
running shoulder tackles like you're Ed Reid in the secondary
and nobody gives a damn. But then you reach and
(14:29):
even if I mean that fall on Jokisch right not
to take it away from the guards for a moment.
But all he did was standing the guy's way and
impat his progress.
Speaker 6 (14:38):
Did he touch you? No? But it goes down as
a fall. Why that wasn't challenged?
Speaker 5 (14:42):
And if that comes back to hauntum, then Adalmanton is
no longer your temporary coach. He's back in the unemployment line.
But for these the officials, yeah, we just can't wait.
And maybe it's because we have a bigger magnifying glass
out waiting to jump on with baited breath, every move
and every bit of minutia in the playoffs because the
(15:06):
margins are so narrow.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
I just like it. I think it's just our.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
Safe space to complain and nothing has to be affected, right,
Adam Silver's not gonna acknowledge it. You might get a
typed up two minute report saying me sorry, hanging on
your wall.
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And what happens when you poop that's also.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
A big day. It's a big morning.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Actually, I start off with a I started from the
morning great, I feel good, ready to attact the day.
Speaker 6 (17:30):
The morning constitutional yes, very good.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
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Speaker 3 (17:36):
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Speaker 5 (17:40):
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Speaker 3 (17:45):
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and this seems to me back. I mean, I'm not
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Speaker 1 (17:50):
Not a doctor, but I read this that if you
sleep on your left side for the majority of the night,
you will wake up more likely to have a morning
constitutional Who paid for this study on your left side?
On your left side?
Speaker 3 (18:04):
I mean, I don't know. I guess it was sleep
on your left side. Man.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
All I gotta do is go to the bathroom. It
slept on my right side. Haven't gone to the bathroom
in a week. I don't know what's happening here.
Speaker 6 (18:12):
That seems like an awful lot of government waist.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
But yeah, who leads the Constitution in the morning?
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Uh well, while we still have it? I read it,
so it's it's all good.
Speaker 6 (18:23):
Do we still have it? Uh?
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Yeah, yeah, I looked. It's it's still in eighte seven seven.
It's still behind me behind glass. Yeah yeah, at the
Pentagon it's still there, is it?
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Not like just Tupac Now, it's just a hologram. It's
you're supposed to break the glass in case of an emergency.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
It's a holog Isn't that what he did in one
of those National Treasure movies, Like he stole the constitutions
from like.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Right, yeah, thats Cage, right yeah, Cage.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Come on, don't give me Nick Cage tight shirt? Like
you didn't know it was Nick Cage.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
I did not Harvey.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
All you do is break Nick Cage is your entire life?
How do you know? What do you mean you didn't
know that? Of course?
Speaker 5 (18:57):
I thought, have you ever picked people up at a
claiming to be Nick Cage's kid or Nick Cage himself?
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Speaker 3 (19:20):
Up a pretty interesting thing here.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
The first bits of video film evidence are out of
Nicholas Cage's John Madden right, the big you know, the
big John Madden movie that's gonna come out that deals
with his later life. At the beginning of the video game,
It's like, hey, you know, we could do our own
social network, you know, Yeah, let's do that.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Yeah, to be our own social network about the beginning of
the Madden game. Yeah, our own big shorts. What we're
gonna do.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
And when I saw this, I'm like, you've got to
be kidding me. Nick Cage is John. Like, I've seen
Nick Cage be good and things. I've also seen him
be absolutely terrible. And I mean not in not in
like you know, in karaoke bars, like, but I've seen
him be absolutely terrible, and he's kind of a caricature
(20:06):
of himself. But I was thinking about this today and
I'm like, well, Madden kind of became a caricature of
himself because he became the video game guy. This is
not like the entire life of John Madden. This is
Madden at the end of his coaching career and into
the beginning of the video game. And I'm like, Okay,
he was kind of a larger than life guy. He
(20:28):
would the way he would tell me people remember him
being on the air, and crazy things he would say
that seem crazy back then now seem pretty tame, but hey,
he was the first of the real superstar TV analysts.
So he comes on, he does his own thing, and
he starts as his Cottage Industry video game. And that's
kind of what this movie is gonna take place on.
And all of a sudden I stopped and I go,
(20:48):
more than I think about it, Nicholas Cage is the
absolute perfect choice to play him, right, I mean they
have him dressed up crazy, right, they got ok he
looks like Jason Cole. Yeah, they got him with the
well sure, they got him in the you know.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
In the blue pants.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
And I'm like, you know what, I started thinking, going,
wait a minute, this is genius. Does he may be
like the perfect guy to play John Madden? Like I
wonder if the director or the you know, the the
company that was putting this movie out said hey, I
called me crazy, just let's just have a meeting here.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
But I think it's Nicholas ca Do you want to.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Hear me out, hear me out, hear me out, hear
me out. No, No, hear me out, hear me out. Okay,
because that's kind of what Nick Cage is. And I'll
tell you I'm now I'm excited.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
I wasn't excited to see it.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
But now the more I think about it and think
about the kind of character, what they're gonna do. You know,
the part of John Madden's life they're dealing with where
he became this big media star and and and and
started a video game. Like, Okay, I think Nicholas Cage
is the best guy to play him. Now the big
thing for me is gonna be can I get past
the famous guy playing another famous guy?
Speaker 7 (21:54):
Right?
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Am I ever gonna get past that? This is Nick
Cage playing John Madden? Right, Like Austin Butler was so
unknown when he played Elvis, and he looked like it
was like, wow, Austin Butler, he was Elvis, right, Like, Okay, you.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Kind of need somebody unknown, Like, am I gonna get
past that?
Speaker 6 (22:09):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (22:09):
It's Nick Cage playing John madd That's my one big fear,
because it would be for anybody, no matter how good
you are in a role, like, Am I gonna get
past that? But I can't believe I come around to
the fact that I think Nick Cage is now the
perfect choice to play things I didn't think I'd say,
like four months ago when this thing came out, He's
the perfect guy to play John.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
Matt But what's interesting, right is, and we've seen some
video of the coaching career of John Madden. Well, what's
normally over the top of it John Facenda's voice. Right,
there's not a lot of Hey here, here's the footage
of him talking and motivating whatever. There's some but generally
not what is thrust forward. It's the later career where
we watch him and his animated self in a booth.
(22:48):
Plus the game of course, but up against what Pat
summerl was pass god you know, and all that, and
you know murder she wrote and everything else. But we
think about all of our our best and brightest, most successful,
uh and most well known of sports media personalities. I mean,
(23:09):
Dick vy Tale leaned into the diaper dandy and catchphrases
and everything else, Bill Raftery into onions and all.
Speaker 6 (23:17):
You waited for him. When's he gonna say it? What's
the over under that we get one?
Speaker 5 (23:21):
You know that kind of thing, uh, all the way
through and you can pick and choose the rest of
your favorites. But all that to say, yeah, Nick Cage
coming over the top, I'm all in. I still haven't
gotten through that thing. He did with uh Pedro Pascal.
But uh well, I'll get to that eventually. That that
was kind of an odd movie, and I think I
(23:41):
needed to be in the right altered state to watch it.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
So that the movies, that is the best way to
watch them, which I'm not I'm not condoning anything, but
sometimes the best ways to.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Watch if if you're altered, you're altered somehow to watch.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
A Nick Cage movie the finest talents.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Oh boy, fate wow favorite Nick Cage.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Oh no, I'm on drug.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Oh oh no, I just said altered. I didn't say
what that meant. It could be too much dia.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Coke wasn't born yesterday.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
It could be too much diaconke beer beer beer beer
because or whatever the hell Willie Nelson is shilling these days.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Like if I was doing this movie, I would say, Okay,
I gotta see if Frank Caliendo can act. If he
can act, the role is his right, but I don't know,
like he's a comedian, because if Frank Kellio connect, he's
John Madden, right, I would say, okay, this is John MADDI.
I have no problem seeing that this is John Matt
But I don't know what I would bring him in
get a screen test.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
And do you think he screen tested? You think you
might have, like Frank Kelly, Hey, this is my role.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
I think he's been doing that bit long enough that
they needed a new face.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
What part of the movie, Yeah, speaking of new face,
what part of the movie? Does his face come off
in this one?
Speaker 5 (24:51):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (24:51):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Well here's the thing. Well, I don't want to tell you,
so I know a spoiler alert. At the midway point
of the movie, he and Pat Summer all change faces
and it's really really cool to see. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah,
travolt is great. Merton Hanks still on his feet.
Speaker 6 (25:07):
Bam.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Heck of a play.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Like that's what that's what happens. It gets real, baby
gets where'd that truck come from? Be sure to check
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on YouTube. Now, speaking of crazy stuff out of the NFL,
(25:29):
this story that is going to fuel us tonight next week,
the week after the preseason and into the regular season.
Seth Wickersham ESPN Any any time a story begins, Seth
wickers we go, oh boy, somebody said something that they
don't want out there.
Speaker 8 (25:47):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
The famous ESPN centric author has a book coming out
which he chronicles what it's like to be a quarterback
at different levels of football. Right it's called American Kings
Biography of the Quarterback. He deals with quarterbacks in high school, college,
and the NFL. And part of this book offers an
(26:10):
inside look into Caleb Williams state of mind about getting
drafted by the Bears last year. And already there is
a bombshell of stuff in this book that Seth Wickershon
wrote that illustrates some of, but not all, of the
following things regarding Caleb Williams and going number one overall
(26:31):
to the Bears Number one. Caleb Williams was so concerned
about being picked by the Bears he and his family
weighed circumventing the entire draft. They talk with lawyers try
to figure out a way around the collective bargaining agreement
while they considered signing with the United Football League and
after a year becoming a free agent and being to
signed and being able to sign wherever you want to
(26:53):
quote from Carl Williams, Chicago is the place quarterbacks go
to die. That's leading up to the money Before the
NFL Draft, Caleb Williams wondering aloud to other people and
people he sought their counsel for quote, do I want
to go there? I don't think I can do it
with Waldron. This is just a part of what has
been thrown out there for Caleb Williams with the Bears.
(27:18):
There's more things with Carl williamsant maybe not Carl. The
truth Williams Tjan he really wanted to give Caleb Williams
a chance to choose his future employer. Told several agents,
I don't want my son playing for the Bears again.
Looked into labor lawyers and agents to try to see
(27:38):
if I could figure out a way to get out
of the NFL draft. Says the CBA is the worst
piece of blank I've ever read, the worst in sports history.
This all according to Seth Wickersham's book about quarterbacks. The
first thing I'm going to say is this, And I
know it's obvious, but I've said it for so many years,
and I will say it again the next time an
(28:01):
athlete's family member slash parent slash significant other weighs in
on an athlete's career and it's a positive. It will
be the first time. There has never been a time
when an athlete significant other, parent, relative, whoever it is,
has weighed and become part of a story and it's
been good news for the athlete. And here it is
(28:23):
clearly this is not helping Caleb Williams. Carl Williams sounds
like the original sports dad who knows just enough information
to be dangerous. Right, I'm gonna talk to agents. I'm
gonna say this. I'm gonna say we don't want to
go to the Bears. He really wanted to go to
the Vikings according to the book. But this is where
again it's never good when someone's parent, family member, significant
(28:45):
other gets involved. It never paints the athlete in a
favorable light. It always seems to be someone working at
odds to what the goals should.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Be, and it never is a positive.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
And now Caleb Williams has to navigate the rest of
the preseason and this season with hey, you didn't really
want to be here, and his teammates know he really
didn't want to be there. And even though it's new
coaching staff, the fans know he didn't want to be there.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
The media knows he didn't want to be there.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
And now because of this, now he's got to navigate
a situation in which if he doesn't start off hot
out of the gate and put.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Up big numbers and the Bears win games.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
It's gonna get so awful that the Bears are gonna
have to move on from him, and he's gonna be
two years in Chicago and have to go someplace else.
Doesn't matter, there's a new coaching staff there, makes no doubt.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
I feel bad.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
All the good things Mike carbon I said about your
Bears going into that. I feel so bad because I
said so many good things and willas have a great year,
and now this is out there and all that Carl
Williams and Caleb Williams have done with this whole behind
the scenes, we're gonna try to circumvent the draft and
all of this. All this has done is piss off
an entire city against a quarterback. And it's not where Hey,
(29:53):
we have to suck it up because Caleb Williams is
our guy. No, it's if this doesn't work in the
first four games, we'll move on without We'll go to
a new quarterback next year. We don't need this guy.
If he hates the team, doesn't want to be here,
didn't want to be here, try to find a way
to not be a member of the Bears. He has
put his starting quarterback career at the Bears on a
four week clock that begins the beginning of September.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
A couple things to it. I can do a forty
five minute monologue if you want to just go.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
We got plenty.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
But buddy, we're gonna talk about this all night. Man,
you're a train wreck of a team. We're gonna talk
about it all night. Man, don't worry about it.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
And man still never got that coin flip. It was
a fifty to fifty proposition to fix. Didn't need to
have to be one point eight percent man, fifty to
fifty when the coin flip with the.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
With the MAVs.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
The first thing is, uh, it's it's the the grown
up be the grown ups in the room. We've all
talked about the draft, and and how from a business
perspective and and and life and process that it really
doesn't make any sense, right. I don't think anybody at
the deep down inside really disagrees with what Caleb Williams
(31:04):
dad is saying, saying the quiet part out loud, right,
going back to all those guys that tried to challenge
why do I got to stay in school for three
years all those years ago, right, and every once in a.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
While that would percolate.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
Now you make enough money to where it's like, I'll
just go to another school if I'm unhappy, and I'll
bide my time before I go. But don't think that
at some point we won't be fighting about that again.
But all of that to say, it's the opportunity to
say that the part out loud and against the Bears organization,
(31:36):
a lame duck coach, an offensive coordinator that I tried
to tell you last year, I had no vote of
confidence no matter how many bells and whistles you put.
If you got a guy who's calling the shots that
doesn't know what he's doing, bad things man. And that
doesn't mean that Caleb Williams is blameless, because that's the bigger,
the other shoe that needs to he see it.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
That's why he seems.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Like just as big as I was on built with
my dad not wanting to go to Chica, he's put
a clock on his time with the Bears.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
No, so like there's more to it from the play
and whatever else, and a very large thing that they're
not saying in this process, but setting up the Bears ownership,
GM and coaching staff as fall guys going back before
last year, I think you'd have a lot of folks that.
Speaker 6 (32:21):
Go, yeah, it kind of makes sense.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Exit out about a Fresca exit swallowing dome. We'll have
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Again, we're just scratching the surface of what's going to
be a huge NFL telling you it's going to go
throughout and into the regular season. That's how big that
Caleb Williams' story is. But first, let's find out what's
trending in the wide world of sports. From a man
who's been called the Caleb Williams of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
I think that says.
Speaker 8 (32:47):
I think Fox Sports Radio would come across worse than
me in that situation.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
His family has all said Ilo doesn't want to be here,
yet still he is here.
Speaker 8 (32:57):
Well, it's actually on that note, my wife is standing
by with a comment. Let's find out how she feels
about this. Lone cron can't close his effing mouth.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
No, I think that says it all right there.
Speaker 6 (33:10):
Again, that's your wife.
Speaker 8 (33:12):
That is a live comment from my wife. Let's see
if she lets she if she feels any differently. Long
cron can't close his effing mouth.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
Yeah, yeah, well, story of my life, ladies.
Speaker 8 (33:24):
Chef, among other things that can't be repeated on Fox
Sports Radio. We're two and a half minutes into the
fourth quarter in Game six of the Western Conference semi
Finals and Denver holds a ninety three to eighty six
lead over Oklahoma City, which leaves the series three games
to two. Denver has outscored the Thunder thirty seven to
twenty five so far in the second half. Jamal Murray
(33:46):
with twenty five points in the contest. Nikoleokicch eighteen points,
thirteen rebounds and six assists in the Stanley Cup playoffs.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Let's set the tone in here now.
Speaker 8 (33:56):
The Winnipeg Jets and Dallas Stars are scoreless after the
first period of Game five in Winnipeg, with Dallas leading
the series three games to one. Earlier, the Carolina Hurricanes
and Washington Capitals were tied at one late in the
third period. Here was Mike Maniscalco on w CMC Sveetchnic cough.
Speaker 7 (34:16):
You'll get it right back from Walker Penny's bards my shirt,
bangel O, Gray Svetchnick. He eats Thompson, Hey, Carolina for
a minute fifty nine to go, takes a two.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
To one lead.
Speaker 8 (34:30):
They would add an empty netter for a three to
one victory to claim the series four games to one
at advance to the Eastern Conference Finals against either the
Florida Panthers or Toronto Maple Leafs, but most likely the
Florida Panthers. Baseball right now, the Los Angeles Dodgers up
three to one over the Athletics and the top of
the second ending thanks in part two to run home
run by Max Munsey in the bottom of the first inning.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
Guys, thanks a bunch.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Ilo.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
I'll call you Isilo? Does your wife call you Ilo?
Or no?
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Uh?
Speaker 8 (35:00):
Only when she's being sarcastic, which is actually most of
the time.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Okay, she calls him bleeping Ilo, Hey, bleeping Ilo, close
your blank in mouth?
Speaker 3 (35:10):
All right? So coming up, Yes, we'll have.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
More on this huge, incendiary Caleb Williams story. I'm telling
you this is now your narrative throughout the offseason and
into the regular season, You're sick and tier Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Now it's going to be Caleb Williams. That's next, right here,
Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific, Fox.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best friend
Mike Harmon. We got more in Caleb Williams coming up
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Speaker 1 (36:07):
Well, when you score a big goal and you get
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be the play of the day.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Do we have to play?
Speaker 6 (36:24):
Got it done?
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Okay?
Speaker 6 (36:27):
Semetch the cough All right?
Speaker 1 (36:28):
So tyser, you gotta stop building grunts and orcs and
and why is that not mean?
Speaker 4 (36:33):
Because you're you're the guy that plays it Okay, So
then all the bad takes her from you.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Then all right, well I thought I thought that. I
thought we talked about that. I thought we that was acceptance. Okay, yeah,
soo we had that.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Uh so here we go.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Here's the play of the day sketch the cough you'll
get it right back from Walter.
Speaker 7 (36:50):
Nny scores ship day goal Gray sketch the call. He
beats Thompson in Carolina for a minute fifty nine to go,
takes a two to one lead.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
It's almost like you said, fifty yeah, you're right for us,
but a little bit of fisticuffs for Andre schweitznikoff Man's
pall tell you, I was sweating my you know what
off the end of this game. And you know, listen, listen,
my team is going to the Eastern Conference finals. The
The only difference in this year here's Carolina here where
they're not in years past, is they are simply just
getting the timely, grinding goal that they didn't get in
(37:27):
the past. That's all it is, right, And Freddy Anderson's
been great, but but all it is when like the
Hurricane's one of the best teams in hockey every single year,
but they get to the playoffs and it's always when
they need. When you need to get that grind goal
in a two to one game or a three to
two game or a one nothing game, they just didn't
get it and they're getting it now. I wish I
could tell you it's more scientific than that, but that's
(37:48):
that's kind of what it is.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
I'm happy to be this though.
Speaker 6 (37:51):
That's what it is.
Speaker 5 (37:52):
Yeah, I'm sweating and I'm gripping and whatever. You had
a three to one lead, Yeah, yesterday, I'm calm, I'm collected.
Speaker 6 (37:58):
I expected to Offich just suck. I expect you. Is
it just different levels of dissociation or what? No?
Speaker 3 (38:08):
Hockey? Hockey home ice means.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Home ice means the least in hockey than it does
in any other sport, right really, I mean baseball you
can't get but now the last few years though, with
teams and the final innings of games, but hockey there
is so little home ice advantage. Like a team you
could be down to zip and go on the road
and win a game, right, you can do it. It's
not it's not impossible. If the other goalie gets hot,
(38:32):
there's nothing you can do, right, Because if you're a
volume team throwing the pucket the net, if a goalie
gets hot like that, that's one guy that can flip
a series more than anybody, more than a quarterback in
the NFL, more than any more than a pitcher in
Major League Baseball. If a goalie gets hot, sometimes you
just throw your arms over.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
What can you do? Right?
Speaker 1 (38:50):
So it's even though it's a three to one lead, Okay,
the odds are a team's you know, it's gonna win
three in a row is not great, but still it's
not like it's it's the impossibleness or how how how
less often it happens in the NBA, or a team
does this in the NFL or Major League Baseball.
Speaker 5 (39:06):
Doesn't like having one point eight percent chance to win
a lottery? Yeah yeah, I mean, come on, it is
it is. It's what one point chance and you win
that lottery. That's how I feel.
Speaker 6 (39:19):
All the folks that try to dismiss anything.
Speaker 5 (39:21):
It's like the league is great, fun of the league.
You're not tawing happy fun ball.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
And this may not be what the NHL wants to hear,
but boy, I'll tell you, and I've said it for
the last week and a half, it seems like the
Hurricanes and the Oilers are on a collision course with
the Stanley Cup Final. Do the rematch from fifteen years
ago and the Hurricanes one and seven. It just seems
like these two teams are on that course. Edmonton starts
every game up to zip I feel like you turn
on the TV. Yes, McDavid and dry Sidle have already scored,
(39:50):
setting up each other's goal, and the Oilers lead to
nothing like that's every game.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
You guys, can't beat the Panthers, that's your problem.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Well, in other years, yes, in other years, yes, Now
this year, let's see, let's see, we's got to stop Kachuk.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
From sky but they're not gonna pull it out.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
No, no, no, come on. They lost it. They lost
eleven to one last night. Come on, that's it.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
The Maple Leafs getting this far has to be a
big victory. It's got to be.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
You know, they got their core four core five now,
so okay, things are looking good, but getting this far
is like, okay, you know, this is a victory for us.
Speaker 6 (40:21):
It's a hell of a run. Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
But so there's your play of the day, and there
it is in the Eastern Conference Finals, to be joined
tomorrow by the New York Mix.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
It is happening.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
But straight ahead, we get back into the biggest story. Look,
this NFL story involving Caleb Williams is just so large
and it's going to it's it's going to take over
the narrative of this season like Aaron Rodgers took over
the narrative of the offseason the last couple of years.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
That's how big a deal this is. You have the
number one pick in the draft, now.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
Seemingly at odds with his team, a team he never
wanted to go to, and now it's in print. Finally
Patriots to saying at least Seth Berckersham's got somebody else
he can go up because trouble for We get back
into that big story next right here, Jason and Mike
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