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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
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is the way tire buying should be. Yeah. No, I've
gone from hating now I just hate Abner double Day
for inventing the bleeping game in the place.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Yeah, you've had some great moments over the course of
your life dedicated to this game. Since Double Day died
in eighteen ninety three, Could it just be Rob Manford
as the current show The organizations.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
The game would still be going. Whether Rob Manfred or
Manfred Man was the commissioner, it doesn't matter. Or Leslie
Sure or or or or Charles Man. They'd be playing.
Everybody would been no, no, no, Dad or Doubleday for
inventing a bleep in sport.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
To begin with, I'll make you feel better. How about
Leslie Man. Let's think about her.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
First, I said Leslie Man. I like Leslie.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Yeah, but go back to her for a second. It'll
make it feel slightly better.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Still be a baseball he would still be baseball. The
Mets would still stink. That's why that would have I mean,
my goodness, man, I really, my goodness.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Well, for about a month straight we had to listen
to you. Who's got the best record in baseball? Nonsense?
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Karma's you know said that.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
No I never said that, No, no, no, I never
said that.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Come up.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
I mean Kara Karma's the you know, a boyfriend on
the Chiefs coming home to her, you know, the whole
Taylor Swift thing. But Karma came back on you and
pit you in the ass like so much of a
you know, a meatbone.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Bo like a what like a meatbone like a wait,
karma bites you on the ass like a meatbone.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Like a big bone.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
No, I don't know. I don't understand that, Like what like,
what do you mean, like buy a meatbone?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
What?
Speaker 1 (02:22):
First of all, what's a meatbone?
Speaker 3 (02:24):
I don't know. I'm just wrapped out a bone, like
you know, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
That's meat. Is something that doesn't have meat left on
it when you're done with it.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Oh o, yeah, and you'll have the boat.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
It's just a bone then frostbring it's just a boat's
but it's from meat. It's a meatboat. Yeah, but the
meat is on there, then there's no meat. Asking me
to make sense of what Mike was saying, I know,
I try to figure out what a meatbone is. I know,
I understand, I I get.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
I keep especially beefbones are actually for making flavorful stocks
and blots. Again, come on, they're trying to clown me.
I wasn't wrong. No, no, no, you're not. Because you're
kissed off at the Mets. You can't. You're trying to
say it. Well, he's ridiculous, Like no, because you decided
to not understand, just being purposeful to try, you got
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we just.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Tried to look up meat bone, and whatever AI said
is what you just regurgitated to me. You're relying on AI.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
No, I was giving you a clinical definition pal.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Meat bone, although I will say meatbone sounds like like
a rejected name of a Metallica album. Hey, what do
you call this meatbone? No, let's call it load, yeah, load,
Let's go load instead. Hey, can we call this one meatbone?
Speaker 5 (03:27):
No?
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Reload? Oh reload, Yes, yeah that's that. Yeah, not meatbone,
not meatbone, meat bone, meat boom. Now a little bit
something different tonight to start the show right, because clearly
the Mets have stunk for a while. Now we know this.
I didn't know that we were hen I say we
the colloquial we, and I got colloquial on the show
so early. It's because I just had coffee.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
I didn't try.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
I mean, people, who are you know, on the air
talking about sports like we do every night? You know
what we've been doing for a living. I didn't know,
apparently the last the last twelve or fourteen hours, I
didn't know you were hated so much by Denzel Washington.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
I did not know that.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
I did not know one of the greatest actors of
our generation hated all of us because he doesn't like
people talking about sports that haven't played the game professionally.
I did not know he hated us that much. That's
a shocker to me. Mike Carmen, who, I know, it's insane.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
I can't watch no, I know.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
I mean, he's got plenty of movies that I skip
past him, see him on cable, So I mean, come on.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
We'll get to that. But I mean, like, I was, like,
he's doing press for this new movie he's got coming
out called No One Will See It. I think that's
name of the movie. Is that what it's called. So
he's doing press for this new movie, and he's he's
on everywhere. He was on ESPN the other day. He's
doing the press rounds, and he wanted to make sure
that he spent time talking about he doesn't like what
big talking heads and people with microphones talk about sports
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who haven't played it for a living. Here's Denzel trying
to light us all up on his press tour.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Everybody's got an opinion.
Speaker 6 (05:01):
We live in a world of opinionaire. You know, I
just what I call them, opinionaires. They're all the shows,
a bunch of guys and a couple of them that
are played, but most of them who haven't, who have
an opinion about what something should be when they haven't
done it. Those who can't talk about those who can't.
Those who have know what they talking about. Those who
haven't don't period too much talking, too much talk. Everybody
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got an opinion. Everybody's sitting around getting fat, you know,
thinking they know how to do it just because you
can sit behind the.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Desk and chit chat.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
That don't mean you.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
Can do a damn thing.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Come get up here with me.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Let's find out.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Come get in the gym with me.
Speaker 6 (05:38):
Let's find out. I mean, I don't know you you know
I can throw my hands.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
I can sure do it. I can do it for real.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
I don't talk about it.
Speaker 6 (05:49):
Let me leave the sinny kid you know, who never
played a day in his life and now he can
get back at everybody because he got a mic in.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
The space and show people need to shut up.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
People need to shut up, learn.
Speaker 6 (06:01):
How to do something, be actually good at something.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Shut me an ass can't cook.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Hey god, So first thing I want to say is
this is everybody fat behind a microphone? Or are we
all skinny? Because he said you know, fat behind a microphone,
yet skinny kids that never played the game, Like, I
don't like you got to pick a lane. Man, You
can't say we're fat and skinny.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Right, I got wallets?
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (06:23):
I mean by having success behind a microphone even if
you haven't done anything and you're skinny and.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Getting fat, skinny people getting fat or fat people getting
skinny with now he was doing a microphone.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
While promoting a film on ESPN and then doing the
rest of the rounds with a bunch of people that
just comment on movies. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's doing all
that to promote the movie.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
And then okay, and then because he acted like a
coup or a hit man or a tough guy in
a movie.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
That what am I supposed to take from that?
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Well, well here's the thing I think the best thing
to do. Look, we get into different aspects of Apparently
he hates all of us that haven't played a sport professionally.
What we've got only a couple And I like when
he they asked him to pick the big UFC fight
coming up and he says, I can't. I can't. Like
I'm I'm true to myself. I can't. He'd be the
worst sports talk radio host ever. Oh, who's gonna win
the fight? I don't know. I can't They're both great.
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Alvarez is great. Oh I can't pick. I can't pick.
I can't pick. I can't do it. Like, hey, I'm
true to myself, look at me. So instead, I think
the best thing to do is if Denzel says he
doesn't like us, I think it's only fair since we
have microphones, you know, and we're you know, we're both
fat and skinny. I think we can you know, we
were fat and now we're skinny. So maybe he was
talking about both of us, my Carmen, because you know,
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we were both overweight loss and now we're skinny. He's like, okay,
that's all fat and skinny guys, fat and skinny guys.
Or he just plays that hockey game from Sega in
the eighties with the fat guys and the skinny guys.
So I think the best thing to do is this, Okay,
all right, Denzel, here's what I don't like. Here's what
I can't stand. Training Day would have been one of
the top ten movies of all time. Think about that.
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That that's how good Training Day was. Training Day was amazing,
and then you're ruin it in the last fifteen minutes
because you have to have that crazy ass Oh this
happened to be my cousin and you saved my cousin,
and oh, I gotta have.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
My moment King Kong.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Ain't God knowing you gotta have ruined the movie could
have been an all time top I mean, that's how
good Training Day was. If you end it in the
scene in the bathroom stop it with with Ethan Hawk. Yeah,
and if you end every Mets game in the third inning,
they'd be undefeated exactly. But you don't do that. But
you don't need the end of that. But you know
that was well you know, you know, no, we don't.
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We really don't know, especially not tonight. We did not
need the end of that game. We needed like well,
we didn't need any of the Mets game tonight. But
if you ended Training Day after that, it would be Wow.
That is that is one of the greatest dramas of
all time. It was shot well, the acting was phenomenal.
I love Denzel And how would you know what the Russians?
It doesn't you just have that scene at the end
and say, here's what the Russians are. But you have
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this stupid contrived ending of oh wait, who is this?
Oh you happen to save my cousin earlier today, and
then oh, now Denzel's a bad guy and he has
to have the moment when it was such an incredible movie,
but you have to have that you ruined. Here you go, Denzel,
you ruined the end of Training Day. And that's why
we talk about Training Day as being Wow, it's a really,
(09:20):
really really good movie, instead of Hey, that's on the
Metal Stand top ten movies of all time.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
So you ruin that.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
So there you go.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
How about that? I don't know anything. I'm just a
guy that goes to movies for the last fifty years
of my life. I don't know. But you ruined the
end of that movie. There, how's that? I feel better?
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (09:34):
I mean you never acted in the movie. I mean
you were never the greatest fictional coach of all time
Herman Boone. Oh wait, that was an ESPN pole question,
you know, And.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
That's my second one. Right, that's my second one for Denzel.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Right.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Here's the other thing. Nobody wins a championship in football
at any level with six offensive plays. Nobody you could
stop six offensive plays in the veer. Look at this. Oh,
it's like, no, every time you will stop six plays? Right,
all they gotta do, is it? Really, that's all they
run in six plays? Yeah, when they do this, this
is what the play is. When they do this, and
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they do this. Okay, great nobody. And in the movie,
remember the Titans, Herman Boone didn't run six plays. He
had a limited playbook. But it wasn't sixth place. Nobody.
I know that you wanted to say, hey, we're gonna
do this for effect and show you that I believe
in a limited playbook and team work. Nobody wins a
championship with six plays. Nobody, especially since oh it's six
plays and a double reverse quarterback half back pass that
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wins a chance state champion.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
That was the sixth play.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Here's the second. We've run these five and then hey breaks,
so there's there's a there's another one that was ridiculously stupid. Okay,
you know again, great movie ruined by the really six plays,
six plays, really six plays, sixth places? As you saw
six plays with the first quarterback with Donald fai.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Is on TJ.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
He was really a scrub and they had to make
the change to Sunshine at quarterback. Uh so all of
a sudden when we make this change and suddenly now
oh yeah, yeah, all these these six plays are great.
Now nobody went side of with that. So there I
feel better. Now I feel better. They go to of
Denzel's biggest movies, huge problems with them, and now we've
had a talk about them. I got a quote the
(11:14):
great Jeffrey Lebowski here, Okay, go ahead. That's just like
your opinion, man, Now my opinion is right on this.
It's absolutely right. Now, it's not yes, that's.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
That's the beauty of all of that's right.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Is it's all hot take nonsense, and you take from
it what you will. You entertain, you're outgraded, you're engaged, whatever.
Just like all of these. I mean, was he really
a guy? Uh you want to go back to easy rollins?
Did he really run that life?
Speaker 3 (11:38):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Was he really possessed and fallen? When John goodmancane after money?
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Come on, you.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Can't get out from under John Goodman? Come on, man,
is this your homework, Larry? Is this your homework? Larry?
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Just just going on down the line. I mean, I
just I just want to say it's all make belief though.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
If that's how Denzel feels about what we let me
tell you about some stuff in this which is also
a profession that people don't do it. They make up,
they say stuff about it, they say all that, like
that's more made up than sports, Like this is just
we make up what is good in a movie and
what we liked.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Did he really time travel to become Macrinus and Gladiator too?
Speaker 3 (12:17):
I don't think so. Well, that's the thing that you did.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
That's the last thing I want to say, dude, I
need to trust You're supposed to ask me to trust
your judgment on things when you did Gladiator Too, not
what you did Gladiator Too. Now. I love the Equalizer
movies and some of your other the unsung stuff that
he did I think is phenomenal. Right, some stuff in
the early mid two thousands he did was really good.
But I want to say, like, Okay, you want to
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trust your judgment. What went through your mind when you
said Gladiator too, And a lot of other people said yeah, no,
I don't want to go back to that, but you said, yeah,
Gladiator too. Tell me about that. Tell me what you
did say that yesterday. Tell me about that. I mean,
I trust your judgment, but.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
All of it.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
You know, when you when you're taking on a role
as he has, and you know, all the way through
so many years and so many movies. Uh, you're you're
trying to figure out the motivations and and looking through
the lens and here here's your perspective on a bunch
of occupations and places and people you've never been or seen,
which is exactly what we're doing on the radio, and
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so many.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
People going through do through their lives.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
So I thought it's kind of funny that you're going
to try to attack while saying, hey, go watch my
movie while I'm talking to these guys that do it
exactly that job.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
I play other people and and and play fictional characters,
and I want you to judge me and come see that.
But this stuff we actually see, that's on the field.
Yeah no, no, don't listen to people who haven't played.
Oh okay, I got it, I got I got it.
I got it.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Now that's okay, I got it. Well he got us
to talk about him. Did we mention what the new
project was? Now?
Speaker 3 (13:47):
I don't think we did. We did.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
I told you the time, I told you it's called
hang I got the It's called The Last Thing You
Want to See? That's what That's what it's called. That's
the title of the movie.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
End of the World. It's a dystopian movie set and
what city.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
No wait, I'm sorry. That was the working title. They
change it. It's it's only in theaters for a short time.
That's the name of the movie.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Wow, that was just cool.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Well originally it was called straight to video, but then
they decided, I don't know people, would you know, really
get that still with video and not understanding it? Just
like your career, Yeah, straight just straight to video. Why
are you out? Why do you have Denzel Washington's back
on this? Frostburg? He hates you too, Actually he doesn't,
Yeah he does. You've discussed this, me and him? You
and hell really you and Denzel hang out? I say
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we hung out. We discussed that though. Oh okay, all right,
very good, all right, Well I didn't know me at all.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Oh okay, I didn't show.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Can you book them so we could talk about the
end of training day, which was ruined with the whole
moment thing. Can you book them forwards and TJ? Maybe
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The run in the gamut.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Absolutely, we're gonna go and I'm down with that. I'm
down with that because I got to hear Skater Boy
on my way in tonight. I'm very excited. That was
very excited. I'm the only guy with the windows rolled down.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
He was a skater boys.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Just see your ladder Boy Lost Boys shirt. Yeah, got
my Lost Boys T shirt today. No, I'm feeling it, man,
I'm feeling it.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
But that's just it. You gotta own it. That is
the thing that puts you into your happy place.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Right. We talked about happy Gilmore Happy Gilmour too a
couple of weeks ago. At its release, find your happy
place and if that's what gets you in a good
state of mind to go and be better about your
day as opposed to being angry at the world. Like
Denzel Washington.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
You do that.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
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in college football because we got an absolute gift where
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the Associated Press today put out they're number one the
Associated Press All Time Team in college football, the first
team all time All Americans. So basically this was first string,
best guys to play their position in the history of
college football. Now what did they take into account? You
had to be a first team All American at least
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once your professional career was not taken into account at all.
And you saw the headline today with some guys at
the top right, Randy Moss and Larry Fitzgerald were the
two wide receivers starting on the All time College Football
AP All American Team. And this was unlike you know,
seeing all these listens seeing these names and one thing
they talked about on listeners. We're gonna get to a
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couple of things absolutely hundred percent agree with, a couple
of things completely disagree with, but like, I like the
fact that they took into account. Hey, the recency bias
is you want to make sure, But I'm like, okay,
when you say recency bias, I'm pretty sure that you know,
as far as college football goes, we can go back
to the seventies if we need to and not feel like, hey,
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we're missing you know, because really, okay, I can't say
that I can go back and say, well, you know,
Johnny Lujack clearly was the best, you know quarterback and
you know, I mean I would take mister inside over
mister outside. You know, I mean clearly, Jay Burwanger, maybe,
like I get it when if you're saying nineteen seventy
later you're worried about recency bias, Like that's fine, that's
the modern era of college football, that's where things changed.
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It's you know, it's kind of like in movies where
you just had the fiftieth anniversary of Jaws a few
weeks ago, and that was the movie that ushered in
the modern era of movies. And really, when you measure
movies against each other, it's kind of when Jaws debuted
to now and then before Jaws, so you kind of say, okay,
their late sixties nineteen seventies in college football to today,
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and then you had way before that where off where
no one threw the football. The single wing offense was
the Mike Martz inspired scheme that was going to win
all these games. They come out of the huddle in
a snake. We don't know where the ball is going.
There's five running backs. So I feel okay with that.
The whole recency buy is taking into account. I feel
good with that. I say this because you know, two
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people I'm going to say that should be on this list,
you might say recency bias. So I just want to
throw that out there for the beginning.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
It's also, you know, it's all fine. It's based on
what you've seen, what you've done, whatever. Like we talk
about favorite movies, we may have some favorites from the
forties and fifties, they generally don't you know, we're broadcasting
trying to grab everybody in. It's not you know, hey,
the History Channel, let me let me go back and
bring you back in. I'm not all of a sudden
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bringing my guy in, you know, like he's doing ken
Burns and we're doing the you know, the retro. No, no, no, no,
We're trying to you know, appeal to the masses. Yeah,
you want to educate and inform, but you know I don't.
I have to spoon feed you. Yeah, you have to
have seen so you could say, yeah, that guy was
really good as opposed to I don't know. Let me
go see what kind of loops from the black and
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white footage they got for me here.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Now, the first thing I'm gonna say is this, because
I know this is a lot of controversy. Look, I'd
love to find a way to say this is not
the answer. But Tim Tebow is, according to the ap
List APIL best college quarterback of all time, one hundred
percent agree. Nobody had the career Tim Tebow did, which
was two national championships and a Heisman Trophy. People forget oh,
(20:53):
well college, Yeah, you know, in college he threw for
three thousand yards a year, he threw for thirty touchdowns.
This is not Tim Tebow of the NFL. And also, oh,
by the way, well thirty touchdowns is pretty good. His
touchdowns he ran for twenty three touchdowns in two thousand
and seven, right thirty two touchdowns passing twenty three touchdowns running.
I have not seen a better college quarterback at all
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levels of the game than Tim Tebow. Again, college not pro.
You're taking this out of it. He's got the resume,
he has the numbers, he has the accomplishments. He's got
a statue because of the pregame sp or the postgame
speech he gave after a loss where they where they
use that to spur on to win a national title. Like, yeah,
I am all in. Tim Tebow is the best college quarterback.
(21:35):
I've said this before. He's the best college quarterback that
I've ever seen. And I have no issue with him
being the best quarterback on the list.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
I mean, you actually even had him air yards per
attempt where he was a leader. It wasn't just a hey,
hitch and scheme it up to where guys were sprinting
to daylight or the.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Jump passes on the gold where he would you know,
he would run to the line of scrimmage and just
do that jump pass, which I loved that jump pass.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Well, that just did I mean I go all the
way back, we had some of the guys that was
some of the best plays the Bears had.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Back at the team.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Oh yeah, sure, sure, complete death.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Watch what Vince Evans does here, it's a jump pass.
So Walter Payton he used.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
To do that every now and again. Yeah, yeah, certainly.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
I am completely in on Tibo, and I know that
he's very polarizing because of how his professional career went.
But I mean, do you remember going back, the guy
was a monster, right. He came off the bench Florida's
first national championship with Urban Meyer. Right, he was the
relief quarterback, Chris Leak was the starter and Florida was loaded.
He would come off the bench and not the first
time we saw that in college football. Washington won a
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national title in the nineties with Billy Joe Hobert playing
quarterback and Mark Brunell coming back from injury. We get
a couple of series of games, but Tibo would come
in and he would completely take over the game. It's
almost like when the Warriors were winning their titles and
all the stars would go to the bench and here
comes a second unit and all of a sudden, wait,
the lead is now at fifteen, it was eight.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
How is it more?
Speaker 1 (22:58):
With Sean Livingston on the floor. But like, that's what
Tebo did the first year he came in. He would
play a bunch of series. He would punish people with
runs up the middle, still able to throw the football,
and then of course he goes into national championship, Heisman Trophy,
National Championship. I don't think there's any quarterback as decorated
overall as Tim Tebow in the modern era of college football.
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Two titles of Heisman Trophy three years ap all American quarterback.
Like you're really searching for reasons you basically just don't
like te Bow. If you're saying, oh, he's a great
you just don't because there's no real way I think
you can cut it up. I mean, yes, recency buys,
but this goes back to the early two thousands. You're
kind of in the middle of the run of college
football from the seventies to where we are now. So yeah,
(23:43):
I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I think
people that are saying it's not Tebow, I think you're
just insane.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Well, it's also we talk about the change of the position.
We talk about it for the pros all the time,
right when we go back and look at statistics of
guys that are massive Hall of famers that don't get
there just due guys like Bradshaw, like Aikman, where it's like, well,
bradshot through too many interceptions, different downfield passing game back
then where interceptions weren't as scorned and we didn't look
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so much in terms of touchdown to interception ratio, Troy
Aikman being a field general with a lot of the
run game and balance where you again, you weren't trying
to throw forty five touchdowns a year. It wasn't all
on your arm. Same thing in college football, same kind
of measurements along the way. And also for Tim Tebow,
I think he's the guy that it became the poster
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boy for how great even though there were plenty that
preceded him and plenty after him of college quarterbacks who
had great success and all these awards and accomplishments and
then didn't pan out at the pro level. He became
the poster child for that. Except for the one throw
to beat the Steelers in the playoffs. Other than that,
it was a good pro career that went to the wayside.
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So it kind of just takes him and takes what
he did in college, and people try.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
To bury that little bit. Can't do it here. You
have to go back and celebrate what he was.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Now, where I disagree is he beats out Vince Young
as the greatest college football quarterback of all time. Vince
Young was great. Like you're talking about splitting here some
of my grades of all time. Vince Young gets all
that run because of the National championship game he had
against against USC. Vince Young was a great quarterback in college.
But you look at it. You look at his numbers
when he we won that share, like, okay, well he
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threw for twenty touchdowns and you know he ran for
twenty touchdowns. He had a thousand yards rushing. He threw
for under three thousand yards. Like, Vince Young was still
a terrific quarterback. Don't get me wrong, but he wasn't great.
He wasn't as great as the guy I'm gonna say
should be number two. He but he gets the he
gets this nod all this because of that legendary bowl game.
He hasn't Oh my goodness, right, but I think one
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game you kind of have to back off and all right,
it's one game. Does that really put him ahead of
the guy I'm gonna say and the guy I'm gonna say.
You can say recency biased, but I don't know that
anybody has had a season like what he's done in
the history of college football. And I'm going back to
twenty nineteen and I'm gonna say it should have been
Tim Tebow number one, beating out Joe Burrow at number two.
(26:11):
Burrow had a great he had a great career, right, really,
but his senior year, right, you're talking about greatest players
of all time when LSU won the national championship, won
the Heisman, he threw sixty touchdowns. Man sixty touchdowns. When
we want to celebrate Vince Young, for hey, he had
thirty five touchdowns, and here's sixty touchdowns. He threw for
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fifty six hundred yards. His completion percentage was seventy six percent.
This guy made an absolute mockery of college football. And
yes he had talented guys around him, but you saw him.
But I remember in college going, Man, this guy is
Eli Manning on steroids, and I mean metaphorical steroids. Like
he knows I'm going with the football to a spot
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where I know my wide receiver is going to win
a one on one battle. He always made the right decision,
he read the field well. Again, it's hard to get
past that ten and a half yards per attempt, Like
all these other numbers, these video game numbers that these
guys have had over the course of their career. I mean,
you want to put that up, it pales against Joe Burrow. Now,
Burrow had the one great year, like the year before
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was good for him, but he really exploded. But it
doesn't matter. You're talking about one of the greatest college
football players to ever play and one season of sixty
touchdowns with oh, by the way, six interceptions, so at
ten to one touchdown to interception ratio ratio, First team
All American with National Championship. I mean sixty and fifty
six hundred yards man, fifty six hundred yards in thirteen games,
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not fifty six hundred yards in eighteen games like you
would get if you played in the NFL and you
had an extra game in the regular season. But this season,
it's hard to look back and say, yeah, it's anything
but Joe Burrow. I mean, it gives Tim Tebow a run.
But Tibo had the level of excellence and all the
stuff he's able to accomplish with three years of being
absolutely terrific and a specifically his last two years. That
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gives me the nod for him over Joe Burrow.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Well like the like the Joe Burrow pick. I also
add five rushing touchdowns along the way in that magnificent season.
I'd be remiss we didn't at least give a give
a nod to the longevity, history and brilliance of Tommy Fraser.
Right Heisman runner up, two time national title, legend, All
(28:25):
American m VP, and three three Big Bowl games. I
mean all of that, you know, just check check check check.
So longevity and you know, talking about the outlier seasons
for Young and for Burrow, magnificent seasons that they were,
but you know the career of Tommy Fraser.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
So I guess it. You know, we kind of quibble
as to, you.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
Know, the build and longevity of a guy's run versus
that flash because you and I were on air for
the Burrow stuff and just talking about that weekly was insane.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Yeah, no it was. And you know, and the thing is,
Tommy Fraser gets a lot of run, and I think
he gets more run because he was the quarterback of
that great run of Nebraska teams.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Right.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
I think that because you look at what he did.
You think, okay, if you said, what were Tommy Fraser's numbers? Like, well,
he probably ran for a thousand yards every year, was
a great running quarterback. He probably threw for you know,
a couple thousand, you know, maybe two thousand yards. His
best year throwing the football was thirteen hundred yards, right,
His best year running the football was seven hundred yards. Right.
The last two years where he was so great, you know,
(29:28):
look that the one year he was injured in ninety four,
he didn't play a lot, right, He only played four games,
but he ran for six hundred seven hundred yards, four
hundred yards. It's not like he was, you know, Vince,
he was Vince Young. But he gets but it was
a different time in college football. And I get that,
and being the MVP of the bowl games and the
national title games, I understand that. But when you look
at the percentage of offense that he was responsible for,
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I'm gonna say, yeah, I have no problem keeping him
a little bit lower on the list.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Let me give you one more, guy, Cam.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
I know you're gonna say you a more guy. Kyle McCord.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
Yeah, okay, okay, wow, No, come on, you're all still
feeling all sad about your Mets.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
I can't try to make you feel better by bringing
mcord up.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
All right, So they got Look, we got more on
this list because yeah, some great stuff they got right
with running backs and stuff they didn't get right with
running backs. But telling you man, Tim Tebow number one, yeah,
I like Burrow, you got Tommy Fraser, Cam Newton had
a phenomenal year in twenty ten. I mean, that's why
this is a great, great list. Time not to find
(30:37):
out what's trending in the wide world of sports. Of
someone who is on the first team AP All American
list of Update anchors, it's Monte Milagya. What an honor. Yeah,
what an honor. Thank you so much. Three years of excellence.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
One year you were hurt.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
You only did a couple of updates. But that's okay, you.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Know, yeah, no, you're right, you're right, win and honor.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Pleasure to be here.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Happy Thursday, guys.
Speaker 7 (30:57):
One game going on in baseball and it's the Diamondbacks
in the Rockies. You gotch all this action on FS one.
Diamondbacks up eight to one. Right now, bottom of the
seventh inning about to start. All the other games have
wrapped up. Glabor Torres with the sock flying the eleventh
inning as a Tigers held on four to three against
the Twins. Ozzy Alby's had a home run total of
three rbi and the Braves edge the Mets four to three.
(31:18):
The Guardian scored four runs in the seventh inning and
beat the Marlins nine to four.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Cleveland is now half a game back.
Speaker 7 (31:24):
On the Yankees for the final wildcard spot in the AL.
The Nationals tanded the Phillies, are third straight loss, coming
out on top three to two. Orioles snapped the Mariners
winning streak yesterday. They won again today five to three.
Vladimir Gairero Junior with the two run shot. Blue Jays
beat the Cubs to one. In NFL news, Chargers announced
that Justin Herbert is going to start our quarterback in
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their preseason game on Saturday against the Rams. It's gonna
be Herbert's first career preseason appearance. Cowboys announced that Joe
Milton is going to start our quarterbacks Saturday against the Ravens.
You're not going to see JJ McCarthy for the Vikings
because they announced that it's gonna be Sam Howell who
starts quarterback for their second preseason game against the Patriots.
When it comes to quarterback Matthew Stafford, Rams head coach
(32:06):
Sean McVay mentioned that he is going to have a
workout on Saturday. Stafford has not practiced during training camp
because of an aggravated disc in his back. And lastly
here Chief squad receiver Rashid Rice has a disciplinary hearing
scheduled for September thirtieth. Rice will remain eligible to play
for the Chiefs first four games of the season barring
the reaching of a disciplinary settlement beforehand.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
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Speaker 2 (33:12):
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Speaker 1 (33:20):
Gee, I wonder who the play of the day is
gonna be. Hmmm if we're playing Ozzy? I wonder. Jason
Smith Show with Mike Harmon live from the Fox Sports
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Ozzy Born song. Hmm, that must mean somebody named Ozzie
(34:05):
must be the play of the day. Braves TV on
(34:29):
the call as I open a diet coke of despair.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
Well, I mean, you didn't go full on in, so
you know you're not just tablespooning some sugar India, So
you're okay.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
It's just comical, man, it's just comical.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
Now you and ten since the deadline or something like that.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, And uh, I feel like, you know,
the baseball gods let the Mets win. When Alonzo broke
the record for darrel Star, Okay, we got to give
him that. But now we're not gonna win another game,
not gonna This is the worst run of baseball in
New York.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
In the least. Yeah, both sides of just absolutely absurd.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Both the Mets and the Yankees are both holding on
to the last wild card by a game. Reds fans
have to wake up every day and go, Man, the
Mets find a way to lose all the time. This
is great. We're not great, but hey, if the other
team loses every day and we go five hundred, we're
gonna be a wildcard. Like that's I mean, I can't
get over it.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
Well, you know what's funny is he Alonzo also inscribed
a ball that said down goes Straw that has people
up at arms in New York.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Yeah, yeah, that could be the I would say the
Curse of the Pin a Lonzo ball, But we've been
losing way before that, so it really doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
No, I mean, it makes no difference.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
It makes no difference.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Well, did you lose a bet with you know, did
you meet down at the crossroads and you had an
expiration date that you misread or what?
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Well, listen, I want to tell you. We green lit
a little script called Damn Mets, which is a sequel
to Damn Yankees. And apparently last year was the year
that I bargained my soul for. So yeah, and you
gotta remember next time, bargain your soul for winning the
World Series not making the NLCS. I gotta remember that.
That's what helps. So in the NF I really am
(36:12):
surprised we haven't done this story before.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
Now.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
CBSTV in Georgia misspelled quarterback Michael Pennix's name, and you
can imagine exactly how it was spelled for a few
seconds before they fixed it, you know, doing his press
conference at coming off after practice and it said Michael Pennix,
except the X was replaced with an S and it
(36:39):
was up for a few seconds. Then it was hot chicked.
Doesn't matter, just has to get up there once everybody
sees it. The Internet. Things live forever, and I'll be
on you know, you could say, how does this happen?
How does this happen? Hows this happened? I'm gonna say,
I really can't believe it hasn't happened before now. I
mean not just because X and Y are so close
(37:00):
to each other on the on the keyboard where you
could you type it and miss and do it, but like, really,
like that's been the thing with his name since he
was a quarterback in Indiana. It's been Oh, someone's gonna
make that mistake. You know, someone's gonna make that mistake. Really,
I can't believe we got all the way to year
two in the NFL before it happened.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
We didn't have anything where they had to scrub it
off a broadcast or made fun of it. I didn't
go down the full rabbit hole, but I'm I can't
remember it. So that's kind of impressive that it means
that people really put that as a point of emphasis
on all of their call sheets, all of their adiction
to make sure, all right, I'm gonna get this right.
(37:39):
We're gonna go slowly so we don't have any excited.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Utterances because I know, I know absolutely how it happened.
Because a control room on television, you know, working in
control as I did for a long time, it's a machine, right.
You trust the people to type stuff and put it
at You know, there's there's fifteen or twenty people in
a control room. There's a director, there's a technical director,
(38:02):
there's people doing Chiron's, which are the fonts on TV,
and there's a bunch of people doing their jobs in
wait when they go on the air. It is a machine. Okay, chyron,
get ready, put it in, put it in, great, take
it out, take it out? Ready, Ready, camera four, go here,
And you trust everybody to do their jobs. And the
thing is is that it's really the producer's job because
(38:23):
basically the producer gets the show ready and then turns
it over to the director when they're in the when
they're in the in the studio, and okay, the producer
is really a troubleshooter keeping everybody the time, figuring out
issues like it's the producer's job to see Okay, there's
a font before it goes on screen, because you see it.
It's a it's in like a preview window where you
see it before it goes up. And I'm sure no
(38:44):
one just saw it because they've typed Michael Pennix's name
a thousand times before. Here it is Michael Pennocks. Insert
there it is. Wait, oh and then you see what's
on the air. Wait, change it. It's an X. It's
an X. Change it, okay, hot, change it and it
goes up. But I see how it does because the
way a control room is is that when when you
do shows for a living for so long, and you're
(39:04):
doing two or three new shows a day, the same
crew is doing it. Yeah, stuff like this is gonna
happen because there's not there's not as many people to
throw the emergency brake, and which is why I'm really
surprised it didn't happen until now. With Michael Pennix's name.
Speaker 4 (39:19):
Also, a lot fewer people to throw under the bus.
I mean, who take you who's the fall guy for this?
Speaker 3 (39:23):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Yeah, well the person know, the person typing the name
in that's okay, so you can.
Speaker 4 (39:27):
Go all the way back to them and not you know,
all the checks and balances up the ladder. I mean
someone's you know, someone's in charge, not that guy.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
Girl and the thing, right, but I mean you're the
but you trust that person to do that job and
to and to put and to put the fonts in
right because they do it all the time. And all right,
that's great.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
This is the fonds, this is so and so.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Who's you know, a mayor's aid, this is so and so,
concerned citizen. You know all the fonts that go up there, Well,
the trust.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
Them, trust producer. He's trying to move up the ladder.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
I'm gonna put an ass in for Michael Pennix. I
want everybody in this room.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
Fires see what a slacker this guy is. He's not
doing any of the checks on my work. So blank him.
I'm doing all the grunt, worth and work, and all
he does is just to point.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
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is the way tire buying should be. Yeah. No, I've
gone from hating now I just hate Abner double Day
for inventing the bleeping game in the place.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Yeah, you've had some great moments over the course of
your life dedicated to this game. Since Double Day died
in eighteen ninety three, Could it just be Rob Manford
as the current show The organizations.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
The game would still be going. Whether Rob Manfred or
Manfred Man was the commissioner, it doesn't matter. Or Leslie
Sure or or or or Charles Man. They'd be playing.
Everybody would been no, no, no, Dad or Doubleday for
inventing a bleep in sport.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
To begin with, I'll make you feel better. How about
Leslie Man. Let's think about her.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
First, I said Leslie Man. I like Leslie.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Yeah, but go back to her for a second. It'll
make it feel slightly better.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Still be a baseball he would still be baseball. The
Mets would still stink. That's why that would have I mean,
my goodness, man, I really, my goodness.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Well, for about a month straight we had to listen
to you. Who's got the best record in baseball? Nonsense?
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Karma's you know said that.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
No I never said that, No, no, no, I never
said that.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Come up.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
I mean Kara Karma's the you know, a boyfriend on
the Chiefs coming home to her, you know, the whole
Taylor Swift thing. But Karma came back on you and
pit you in the ass like so much of a
you know, a meatbone.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Bo like a what like a meatbone like a wait,
karma bites you on the ass like a meatbone.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Like a big bone.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
No, I don't know. I don't understand that, Like what like,
what do you mean, like buy a meatbone?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
What?
Speaker 1 (02:22):
First of all, what's a meatbone?
Speaker 3 (02:24):
I don't know. I'm just wrapped out a bone, like
you know, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
That's meat. Is something that doesn't have meat left on
it when you're done with it.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Oh o, yeah, and you'll have the boat.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
It's just a bone then frostbring it's just a boat's
but it's from meat. It's a meatboat. Yeah, but the
meat is on there, then there's no meat. Asking me
to make sense of what Mike was saying, I know,
I try to figure out what a meatbone is. I know,
I understand, I I get.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
I keep especially beefbones are actually for making flavorful stocks
and blots. Again, come on, they're trying to clown me.
I wasn't wrong. No, no, no, you're not. Because you're
kissed off at the Mets. You can't. You're trying to
say it. Well, he's ridiculous, Like no, because you decided
to not understand, just being purposeful to try, you got
(03:06):
we just.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Tried to look up meat bone, and whatever AI said
is what you just regurgitated to me. You're relying on AI.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
No, I was giving you a clinical definition pal.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Meat bone, although I will say meatbone sounds like like
a rejected name of a Metallica album. Hey, what do
you call this meatbone? No, let's call it load, yeah, load,
Let's go load instead. Hey, can we call this one meatbone?
Speaker 5 (03:27):
No?
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Reload? Oh reload, Yes, yeah that's that. Yeah, not meatbone,
not meatbone, meat bone, meat boom. Now a little bit
something different tonight to start the show right, because clearly
the Mets have stunk for a while. Now we know this.
I didn't know that we were hen I say we
the colloquial we, and I got colloquial on the show
so early. It's because I just had coffee.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
I didn't try.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
I mean, people, who are you know, on the air
talking about sports like we do every night? You know
what we've been doing for a living. I didn't know,
apparently the last the last twelve or fourteen hours, I
didn't know you were hated so much by Denzel Washington.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
I did not know that.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
I did not know one of the greatest actors of
our generation hated all of us because he doesn't like
people talking about sports that haven't played the game professionally.
I did not know he hated us that much. That's
a shocker to me. Mike Carmen, who, I know, it's insane.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
I can't watch no, I know.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
I mean, he's got plenty of movies that I skip
past him, see him on cable, So I mean, come on.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
We'll get to that. But I mean, like, I was, like,
he's doing press for this new movie he's got coming
out called No One Will See It. I think that's
name of the movie. Is that what it's called. So
he's doing press for this new movie, and he's he's
on everywhere. He was on ESPN the other day. He's
doing the press rounds, and he wanted to make sure
that he spent time talking about he doesn't like what
big talking heads and people with microphones talk about sports
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who haven't played it for a living. Here's Denzel trying
to light us all up on his press tour.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Everybody's got an opinion.
Speaker 6 (05:01):
We live in a world of opinionaire. You know, I
just what I call them, opinionaires. They're all the shows,
a bunch of guys and a couple of them that
are played, but most of them who haven't, who have
an opinion about what something should be when they haven't
done it. Those who can't talk about those who can't.
Those who have know what they talking about. Those who
haven't don't period too much talking, too much talk. Everybody
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got an opinion. Everybody's sitting around getting fat, you know,
thinking they know how to do it just because you
can sit behind the.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Desk and chit chat.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
That don't mean you.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
Can do a damn thing.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Come get up here with me.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Let's find out.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Come get in the gym with me.
Speaker 6 (05:38):
Let's find out. I mean, I don't know you you know
I can throw my hands.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
I can sure do it. I can do it for real.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
I don't talk about it.
Speaker 6 (05:49):
Let me leave the sinny kid you know, who never
played a day in his life and now he can
get back at everybody because he got a mic in.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
The space and show people need to shut up.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
People need to shut up, learn.
Speaker 6 (06:01):
How to do something, be actually good at something.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Shut me an ass can't cook.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Hey god, So first thing I want to say is
this is everybody fat behind a microphone? Or are we
all skinny? Because he said you know, fat behind a microphone,
yet skinny kids that never played the game, Like, I
don't like you got to pick a lane. Man, You
can't say we're fat and skinny.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Right, I got wallets?
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (06:23):
I mean by having success behind a microphone even if
you haven't done anything and you're skinny and.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Getting fat, skinny people getting fat or fat people getting
skinny with now he was doing a microphone.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
While promoting a film on ESPN and then doing the
rest of the rounds with a bunch of people that
just comment on movies. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's doing all
that to promote the movie.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
And then okay, and then because he acted like a
coup or a hit man or a tough guy in
a movie.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
That what am I supposed to take from that?
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Well, well here's the thing I think the best thing
to do. Look, we get into different aspects of Apparently
he hates all of us that haven't played a sport professionally.
What we've got only a couple And I like when
he they asked him to pick the big UFC fight
coming up and he says, I can't. I can't. Like
I'm I'm true to myself. I can't. He'd be the
worst sports talk radio host ever. Oh, who's gonna win
the fight? I don't know. I can't They're both great.
(07:19):
Alvarez is great. Oh I can't pick. I can't pick.
I can't pick. I can't do it. Like, hey, I'm
true to myself, look at me. So instead, I think
the best thing to do is if Denzel says he
doesn't like us, I think it's only fair since we
have microphones, you know, and we're you know, we're both
fat and skinny. I think we can you know, we
were fat and now we're skinny. So maybe he was
talking about both of us, my Carmen, because you know,
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we were both overweight loss and now we're skinny. He's like, okay,
that's all fat and skinny guys, fat and skinny guys.
Or he just plays that hockey game from Sega in
the eighties with the fat guys and the skinny guys.
So I think the best thing to do is this, Okay,
all right, Denzel, here's what I don't like. Here's what
I can't stand. Training Day would have been one of
the top ten movies of all time. Think about that.
(08:01):
That that's how good Training Day was. Training Day was amazing,
and then you're ruin it in the last fifteen minutes
because you have to have that crazy ass Oh this
happened to be my cousin and you saved my cousin,
and oh, I gotta have.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
My moment King Kong.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Ain't God knowing you gotta have ruined the movie could
have been an all time top I mean, that's how
good Training Day was. If you end it in the
scene in the bathroom stop it with with Ethan Hawk. Yeah,
and if you end every Mets game in the third inning,
they'd be undefeated exactly. But you don't do that. But
you don't need the end of that. But you know
that was well you know, you know, no, we don't.
(08:38):
We really don't know, especially not tonight. We did not
need the end of that game. We needed like well,
we didn't need any of the Mets game tonight. But
if you ended Training Day after that, it would be Wow.
That is that is one of the greatest dramas of
all time. It was shot well, the acting was phenomenal.
I love Denzel And how would you know what the Russians?
It doesn't you just have that scene at the end
and say, here's what the Russians are. But you have
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this stupid contrived ending of oh wait, who is this?
Oh you happen to save my cousin earlier today, and
then oh, now Denzel's a bad guy and he has
to have the moment when it was such an incredible movie,
but you have to have that you ruined. Here you go, Denzel,
you ruined the end of Training Day. And that's why
we talk about Training Day as being Wow, it's a really,
(09:20):
really really good movie, instead of Hey, that's on the
Metal Stand top ten movies of all time.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
So you ruin that.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
So there you go.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
How about that? I don't know anything. I'm just a
guy that goes to movies for the last fifty years
of my life. I don't know. But you ruined the
end of that movie. There, how's that? I feel better?
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (09:34):
I mean you never acted in the movie. I mean
you were never the greatest fictional coach of all time
Herman Boone. Oh wait, that was an ESPN pole question,
you know, And.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
That's my second one. Right, that's my second one for Denzel.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Right.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Here's the other thing. Nobody wins a championship in football
at any level with six offensive plays. Nobody you could
stop six offensive plays in the veer. Look at this. Oh,
it's like, no, every time you will stop six plays? Right,
all they gotta do, is it? Really, that's all they
run in six plays? Yeah, when they do this, this
is what the play is. When they do this, and
(10:06):
they do this. Okay, great nobody. And in the movie,
remember the Titans, Herman Boone didn't run six plays. He
had a limited playbook. But it wasn't sixth place. Nobody.
I know that you wanted to say, hey, we're gonna
do this for effect and show you that I believe
in a limited playbook and team work. Nobody wins a
championship with six plays. Nobody, especially since oh it's six
plays and a double reverse quarterback half back pass that
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wins a chance state champion.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
That was the sixth play.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Here's the second. We've run these five and then hey breaks,
so there's there's a there's another one that was ridiculously stupid. Okay,
you know again, great movie ruined by the really six plays,
six plays, really six plays, sixth places? As you saw
six plays with the first quarterback with Donald fai.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Is on TJ.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
He was really a scrub and they had to make
the change to Sunshine at quarterback. Uh so all of
a sudden when we make this change and suddenly now
oh yeah, yeah, all these these six plays are great.
Now nobody went side of with that. So there I
feel better. Now I feel better. They go to of
Denzel's biggest movies, huge problems with them, and now we've
had a talk about them. I got a quote the
(11:14):
great Jeffrey Lebowski here, Okay, go ahead. That's just like
your opinion, man, Now my opinion is right on this.
It's absolutely right. Now, it's not yes, that's.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
That's the beauty of all of that's right.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Is it's all hot take nonsense, and you take from
it what you will. You entertain, you're outgraded, you're engaged, whatever.
Just like all of these. I mean, was he really
a guy? Uh you want to go back to easy rollins?
Did he really run that life?
Speaker 3 (11:38):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Was he really possessed and fallen? When John goodmancane after money?
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Come on, you.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Can't get out from under John Goodman? Come on, man,
is this your homework, Larry? Is this your homework? Larry?
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Just just going on down the line. I mean, I
just I just want to say it's all make belief though.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
If that's how Denzel feels about what we let me
tell you about some stuff in this which is also
a profession that people don't do it. They make up,
they say stuff about it, they say all that, like
that's more made up than sports, Like this is just
we make up what is good in a movie and
what we liked.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Did he really time travel to become Macrinus and Gladiator too?
Speaker 3 (12:17):
I don't think so. Well, that's the thing that you did.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
That's the last thing I want to say, dude, I
need to trust You're supposed to ask me to trust
your judgment on things when you did Gladiator Too, not
what you did Gladiator Too. Now. I love the Equalizer
movies and some of your other the unsung stuff that
he did I think is phenomenal. Right, some stuff in
the early mid two thousands he did was really good.
But I want to say, like, Okay, you want to
(12:39):
trust your judgment. What went through your mind when you
said Gladiator too, And a lot of other people said yeah, no,
I don't want to go back to that, but you said, yeah,
Gladiator too. Tell me about that. Tell me what you
did say that yesterday. Tell me about that. I mean,
I trust your judgment, but.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
All of it.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
You know, when you when you're taking on a role
as he has, and you know, all the way through
so many years and so many movies. Uh, you're you're
trying to figure out the motivations and and looking through
the lens and here here's your perspective on a bunch
of occupations and places and people you've never been or seen,
which is exactly what we're doing on the radio, and
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so many.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
People going through do through their lives.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
So I thought it's kind of funny that you're going
to try to attack while saying, hey, go watch my
movie while I'm talking to these guys that do it
exactly that job.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
I play other people and and and play fictional characters,
and I want you to judge me and come see that.
But this stuff we actually see, that's on the field.
Yeah no, no, don't listen to people who haven't played.
Oh okay, I got it, I got I got it.
I got it.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Now that's okay, I got it. Well he got us
to talk about him. Did we mention what the new
project was? Now?
Speaker 3 (13:47):
I don't think we did. We did.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
I told you the time, I told you it's called
hang I got the It's called The Last Thing You
Want to See? That's what That's what it's called. That's
the title of the movie.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
End of the World. It's a dystopian movie set and
what city.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
No wait, I'm sorry. That was the working title. They
change it. It's it's only in theaters for a short time.
That's the name of the movie.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Wow, that was just cool.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Well originally it was called straight to video, but then
they decided, I don't know people, would you know, really
get that still with video and not understanding it? Just
like your career, Yeah, straight just straight to video. Why
are you out? Why do you have Denzel Washington's back
on this? Frostburg? He hates you too, Actually he doesn't,
Yeah he does. You've discussed this, me and him? You
and hell really you and Denzel hang out? I say
(14:33):
we hung out. We discussed that though. Oh okay, all right,
very good, all right, Well I didn't know me at all.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Oh okay, I didn't show.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Can you book them so we could talk about the
end of training day, which was ruined with the whole
moment thing. Can you book them forwards and TJ? Maybe
I will have a hateful eight words later on for
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Speaker 3 (16:29):
The run in the gamut.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Absolutely, we're gonna go and I'm down with that. I'm
down with that because I got to hear Skater Boy
on my way in tonight. I'm very excited. That was
very excited. I'm the only guy with the windows rolled down.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
He was a skater boys.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Just see your ladder Boy Lost Boys shirt. Yeah, got
my Lost Boys T shirt today. No, I'm feeling it, man,
I'm feeling it.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
But that's just it. You gotta own it. That is
the thing that puts you into your happy place.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Right. We talked about happy Gilmore Happy Gilmour too a
couple of weeks ago. At its release, find your happy
place and if that's what gets you in a good
state of mind to go and be better about your
day as opposed to being angry at the world. Like
Denzel Washington.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
You do that.
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That's UMGC dot edu. So today was I loved today
in college football because we got an absolute gift where
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the Associated Press today put out they're number one the
Associated Press All Time Team in college football, the first
team all time All Americans. So basically this was first string,
best guys to play their position in the history of
college football. Now what did they take into account? You
had to be a first team All American at least
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once your professional career was not taken into account at all.
And you saw the headline today with some guys at
the top right, Randy Moss and Larry Fitzgerald were the
two wide receivers starting on the All time College Football
AP All American Team. And this was unlike you know,
seeing all these listens seeing these names and one thing
they talked about on listeners. We're gonna get to a
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couple of things absolutely hundred percent agree with, a couple
of things completely disagree with, but like, I like the
fact that they took into account. Hey, the recency bias
is you want to make sure, But I'm like, okay,
when you say recency bias, I'm pretty sure that you know,
as far as college football goes, we can go back
to the seventies if we need to and not feel like, hey,
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we're missing you know, because really, okay, I can't say
that I can go back and say, well, you know,
Johnny Lujack clearly was the best, you know quarterback and
you know, I mean I would take mister inside over
mister outside. You know, I mean clearly, Jay Burwanger, maybe,
like I get it when if you're saying nineteen seventy
later you're worried about recency bias, Like that's fine, that's
the modern era of college football, that's where things changed.
(18:59):
It's you know, it's kind of like in movies where
you just had the fiftieth anniversary of Jaws a few
weeks ago, and that was the movie that ushered in
the modern era of movies. And really, when you measure
movies against each other, it's kind of when Jaws debuted
to now and then before Jaws, so you kind of say, okay,
their late sixties nineteen seventies in college football to today,
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and then you had way before that where off where
no one threw the football. The single wing offense was
the Mike Martz inspired scheme that was going to win
all these games. They come out of the huddle in
a snake. We don't know where the ball is going.
There's five running backs. So I feel okay with that.
The whole recency buy is taking into account. I feel
good with that. I say this because you know, two
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people I'm going to say that should be on this list,
you might say recency bias. So I just want to
throw that out there for the beginning.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
It's also, you know, it's all fine. It's based on
what you've seen, what you've done, whatever. Like we talk
about favorite movies, we may have some favorites from the
forties and fifties, they generally don't you know, we're broadcasting
trying to grab everybody in. It's not you know, hey,
the History Channel, let me let me go back and
bring you back in. I'm not all of a sudden
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bringing my guy in, you know, like he's doing ken
Burns and we're doing the you know, the retro. No, no, no, no,
We're trying to you know, appeal to the masses. Yeah,
you want to educate and inform, but you know I don't.
I have to spoon feed you. Yeah, you have to
have seen so you could say, yeah, that guy was
really good as opposed to I don't know. Let me
go see what kind of loops from the black and
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white footage they got for me here.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Now, the first thing I'm gonna say is this, because
I know this is a lot of controversy. Look, I'd
love to find a way to say this is not
the answer. But Tim Tebow is, according to the ap
List APIL best college quarterback of all time, one hundred
percent agree. Nobody had the career Tim Tebow did, which
was two national championships and a Heisman Trophy. People forget oh,
(20:53):
well college, Yeah, you know, in college he threw for
three thousand yards a year, he threw for thirty touchdowns.
This is not Tim Tebow of the NFL. And also, oh,
by the way, well thirty touchdowns is pretty good. His
touchdowns he ran for twenty three touchdowns in two thousand
and seven, right thirty two touchdowns passing twenty three touchdowns running.
I have not seen a better college quarterback at all
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levels of the game than Tim Tebow. Again, college not pro.
You're taking this out of it. He's got the resume,
he has the numbers, he has the accomplishments. He's got
a statue because of the pregame sp or the postgame
speech he gave after a loss where they where they
use that to spur on to win a national title. Like, yeah,
I am all in. Tim Tebow is the best college quarterback.
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I've said this before. He's the best college quarterback that
I've ever seen. And I have no issue with him
being the best quarterback on the list.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
I mean, you actually even had him air yards per
attempt where he was a leader. It wasn't just a hey,
hitch and scheme it up to where guys were sprinting
to daylight or the.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Jump passes on the gold where he would you know,
he would run to the line of scrimmage and just
do that jump pass, which I loved that jump pass.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Well, that just did I mean I go all the
way back, we had some of the guys that was
some of the best plays the Bears had.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Back at the team.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Oh yeah, sure, sure, complete death.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Watch what Vince Evans does here, it's a jump pass.
So Walter Payton he used.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
To do that every now and again. Yeah, yeah, certainly.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
I am completely in on Tibo, and I know that
he's very polarizing because of how his professional career went.
But I mean, do you remember going back, the guy
was a monster, right. He came off the bench Florida's
first national championship with Urban Meyer. Right, he was the
relief quarterback, Chris Leak was the starter and Florida was loaded.
He would come off the bench and not the first
time we saw that in college football. Washington won a
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national title in the nineties with Billy Joe Hobert playing
quarterback and Mark Brunell coming back from injury. We get
a couple of series of games, but Tibo would come
in and he would completely take over the game. It's
almost like when the Warriors were winning their titles and
all the stars would go to the bench and here
comes a second unit and all of a sudden, wait,
the lead is now at fifteen, it was eight.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
How is it more?
Speaker 1 (22:58):
With Sean Livingston on the floor. But like, that's what
Tebo did the first year he came in. He would
play a bunch of series. He would punish people with
runs up the middle, still able to throw the football,
and then of course he goes into national championship, Heisman Trophy,
National Championship. I don't think there's any quarterback as decorated
overall as Tim Tebow in the modern era of college football.
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Two titles of Heisman Trophy three years ap all American quarterback.
Like you're really searching for reasons you basically just don't
like te Bow. If you're saying, oh, he's a great
you just don't because there's no real way I think
you can cut it up. I mean, yes, recency buys,
but this goes back to the early two thousands. You're
kind of in the middle of the run of college
football from the seventies to where we are now. So yeah,
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I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I think
people that are saying it's not Tebow, I think you're
just insane.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Well, it's also we talk about the change of the position.
We talk about it for the pros all the time,
right when we go back and look at statistics of
guys that are massive Hall of famers that don't get
there just due guys like Bradshaw, like Aikman, where it's like, well,
bradshot through too many interceptions, different downfield passing game back
then where interceptions weren't as scorned and we didn't look
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so much in terms of touchdown to interception ratio, Troy
Aikman being a field general with a lot of the
run game and balance where you again, you weren't trying
to throw forty five touchdowns a year. It wasn't all
on your arm. Same thing in college football, same kind
of measurements along the way. And also for Tim Tebow,
I think he's the guy that it became the poster
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boy for how great even though there were plenty that
preceded him and plenty after him of college quarterbacks who
had great success and all these awards and accomplishments and
then didn't pan out at the pro level. He became
the poster child for that. Except for the one throw
to beat the Steelers in the playoffs. Other than that,
it was a good pro career that went to the wayside.
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So it kind of just takes him and takes what
he did in college, and people try.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
To bury that little bit. Can't do it here. You
have to go back and celebrate what he was.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Now, where I disagree is he beats out Vince Young
as the greatest college football quarterback of all time. Vince
Young was great. Like you're talking about splitting here some
of my grades of all time. Vince Young gets all
that run because of the National championship game he had
against against USC. Vince Young was a great quarterback in college.
But you look at it. You look at his numbers
when he we won that share, like, okay, well he
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threw for twenty touchdowns and you know he ran for
twenty touchdowns. He had a thousand yards rushing. He threw
for under three thousand yards. Like, Vince Young was still
a terrific quarterback. Don't get me wrong, but he wasn't great.
He wasn't as great as the guy I'm gonna say
should be number two. He but he gets the he
gets this nod all this because of that legendary bowl game.
He hasn't Oh my goodness, right, but I think one
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game you kind of have to back off and all right,
it's one game. Does that really put him ahead of
the guy I'm gonna say and the guy I'm gonna say.
You can say recency biased, but I don't know that
anybody has had a season like what he's done in
the history of college football. And I'm going back to
twenty nineteen and I'm gonna say it should have been
Tim Tebow number one, beating out Joe Burrow at number two.
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Burrow had a great he had a great career, right, really,
but his senior year, right, you're talking about greatest players
of all time when LSU won the national championship, won
the Heisman, he threw sixty touchdowns. Man sixty touchdowns. When
we want to celebrate Vince Young, for hey, he had
thirty five touchdowns, and here's sixty touchdowns. He threw for
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fifty six hundred yards. His completion percentage was seventy six percent.
This guy made an absolute mockery of college football. And
yes he had talented guys around him, but you saw him.
But I remember in college going, Man, this guy is
Eli Manning on steroids, and I mean metaphorical steroids. Like
he knows I'm going with the football to a spot
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where I know my wide receiver is going to win
a one on one battle. He always made the right decision,
he read the field well. Again, it's hard to get
past that ten and a half yards per attempt, Like
all these other numbers, these video game numbers that these
guys have had over the course of their career. I mean,
you want to put that up, it pales against Joe Burrow. Now,
Burrow had the one great year, like the year before
(27:17):
was good for him, but he really exploded. But it
doesn't matter. You're talking about one of the greatest college
football players to ever play and one season of sixty
touchdowns with oh, by the way, six interceptions, so at
ten to one touchdown to interception ratio ratio, First team
All American with National Championship. I mean sixty and fifty
six hundred yards man, fifty six hundred yards in thirteen games,
(27:40):
not fifty six hundred yards in eighteen games like you
would get if you played in the NFL and you
had an extra game in the regular season. But this season,
it's hard to look back and say, yeah, it's anything
but Joe Burrow. I mean, it gives Tim Tebow a run.
But Tibo had the level of excellence and all the
stuff he's able to accomplish with three years of being
absolutely terrific and a specifically his last two years. That
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gives me the nod for him over Joe Burrow.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Well like the like the Joe Burrow pick. I also
add five rushing touchdowns along the way in that magnificent season.
I'd be remiss we didn't at least give a give
a nod to the longevity, history and brilliance of Tommy Fraser.
Right Heisman runner up, two time national title, legend, All
(28:25):
American m VP, and three three Big Bowl games. I
mean all of that, you know, just check check check check.
So longevity and you know, talking about the outlier seasons
for Young and for Burrow, magnificent seasons that they were,
but you know the career of Tommy Fraser.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
So I guess it. You know, we kind of quibble
as to, you.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
Know, the build and longevity of a guy's run versus
that flash because you and I were on air for
the Burrow stuff and just talking about that weekly was insane.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Yeah, no it was. And you know, and the thing is,
Tommy Fraser gets a lot of run, and I think
he gets more run because he was the quarterback of
that great run of Nebraska teams.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Right.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
I think that because you look at what he did.
You think, okay, if you said, what were Tommy Fraser's numbers? Like, well,
he probably ran for a thousand yards every year, was
a great running quarterback. He probably threw for you know,
a couple thousand, you know, maybe two thousand yards. His
best year throwing the football was thirteen hundred yards, right,
His best year running the football was seven hundred yards. Right.
The last two years where he was so great, you know,
(29:28):
look that the one year he was injured in ninety four,
he didn't play a lot, right, He only played four games,
but he ran for six hundred seven hundred yards, four
hundred yards. It's not like he was, you know, Vince,
he was Vince Young. But he gets but it was
a different time in college football. And I get that,
and being the MVP of the bowl games and the
national title games, I understand that. But when you look
at the percentage of offense that he was responsible for,
(29:51):
I'm gonna say, yeah, I have no problem keeping him
a little bit lower on the list.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Let me give you one more, guy, Cam.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
I know you're gonna say you a more guy. Kyle McCord.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
Yeah, okay, okay, wow, No, come on, you're all still
feeling all sad about your Mets.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
I can't try to make you feel better by bringing
mcord up.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
All right, So they got Look, we got more on
this list because yeah, some great stuff they got right
with running backs and stuff they didn't get right with
running backs. But telling you man, Tim Tebow number one, yeah,
I like Burrow, you got Tommy Fraser, Cam Newton had
a phenomenal year in twenty ten. I mean, that's why
this is a great, great list. Time not to find
(30:37):
out what's trending in the wide world of sports. Of
someone who is on the first team AP All American
list of Update anchors, it's Monte Milagya. What an honor. Yeah,
what an honor. Thank you so much. Three years of excellence.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
One year you were hurt.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
You only did a couple of updates. But that's okay, you.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Know, yeah, no, you're right, you're right, win and honor.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Pleasure to be here.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Happy Thursday, guys.
Speaker 7 (30:57):
One game going on in baseball and it's the Diamondbacks
in the Rockies. You gotch all this action on FS one.
Diamondbacks up eight to one. Right now, bottom of the
seventh inning about to start. All the other games have
wrapped up. Glabor Torres with the sock flying the eleventh
inning as a Tigers held on four to three against
the Twins. Ozzy Alby's had a home run total of
three rbi and the Braves edge the Mets four to three.
(31:18):
The Guardian scored four runs in the seventh inning and
beat the Marlins nine to four.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Cleveland is now half a game back.
Speaker 7 (31:24):
On the Yankees for the final wildcard spot in the AL.
The Nationals tanded the Phillies, are third straight loss, coming
out on top three to two. Orioles snapped the Mariners
winning streak yesterday. They won again today five to three.
Vladimir Gairero Junior with the two run shot. Blue Jays
beat the Cubs to one. In NFL news, Chargers announced
that Justin Herbert is going to start our quarterback in
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their preseason game on Saturday against the Rams. It's gonna
be Herbert's first career preseason appearance. Cowboys announced that Joe
Milton is going to start our quarterbacks Saturday against the Ravens.
You're not going to see JJ McCarthy for the Vikings
because they announced that it's gonna be Sam Howell who
starts quarterback for their second preseason game against the Patriots.
When it comes to quarterback Matthew Stafford, Rams head coach
(32:06):
Sean McVay mentioned that he is going to have a
workout on Saturday. Stafford has not practiced during training camp
because of an aggravated disc in his back. And lastly
here Chief squad receiver Rashid Rice has a disciplinary hearing
scheduled for September thirtieth. Rice will remain eligible to play
for the Chiefs first four games of the season barring
the reaching of a disciplinary settlement beforehand.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
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Speaker 1 (32:28):
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Speaker 1 (33:20):
Gee, I wonder who the play of the day is
gonna be. Hmmm if we're playing Ozzy? I wonder. Jason
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Ozzy Born song. Hmm, that must mean somebody named Ozzie
(34:05):
must be the play of the day. Braves TV on
(34:29):
the call as I open a diet coke of despair.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
Well, I mean, you didn't go full on in, so
you know you're not just tablespooning some sugar India, So
you're okay.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
It's just comical, man, it's just comical.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
Now you and ten since the deadline or something like that.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, And uh, I feel like, you know,
the baseball gods let the Mets win. When Alonzo broke
the record for darrel Star, Okay, we got to give
him that. But now we're not gonna win another game,
not gonna This is the worst run of baseball in
New York.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
In the least. Yeah, both sides of just absolutely absurd.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Both the Mets and the Yankees are both holding on
to the last wild card by a game. Reds fans
have to wake up every day and go, Man, the
Mets find a way to lose all the time. This
is great. We're not great, but hey, if the other
team loses every day and we go five hundred, we're
gonna be a wildcard. Like that's I mean, I can't
get over it.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
Well, you know what's funny is he Alonzo also inscribed
a ball that said down goes Straw that has people
up at arms in New York.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Yeah, yeah, that could be the I would say the
Curse of the Pin a Lonzo ball, But we've been
losing way before that, so it really doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
No, I mean, it makes no difference.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
It makes no difference.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Well, did you lose a bet with you know, did
you meet down at the crossroads and you had an
expiration date that you misread or what?
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Well, listen, I want to tell you. We green lit
a little script called Damn Mets, which is a sequel
to Damn Yankees. And apparently last year was the year
that I bargained my soul for. So yeah, and you
gotta remember next time, bargain your soul for winning the
World Series not making the NLCS. I gotta remember that.
That's what helps. So in the NF I really am
(36:12):
surprised we haven't done this story before.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
Now.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
CBSTV in Georgia misspelled quarterback Michael Pennix's name, and you
can imagine exactly how it was spelled for a few
seconds before they fixed it, you know, doing his press
conference at coming off after practice and it said Michael Pennix,
except the X was replaced with an S and it
(36:39):
was up for a few seconds. Then it was hot chicked.
Doesn't matter, just has to get up there once everybody
sees it. The Internet. Things live forever, and I'll be
on you know, you could say, how does this happen?
How does this happen? Hows this happened? I'm gonna say,
I really can't believe it hasn't happened before now. I
mean not just because X and Y are so close
(37:00):
to each other on the on the keyboard where you
could you type it and miss and do it, but like, really,
like that's been the thing with his name since he
was a quarterback in Indiana. It's been Oh, someone's gonna
make that mistake. You know, someone's gonna make that mistake. Really,
I can't believe we got all the way to year
two in the NFL before it happened.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
We didn't have anything where they had to scrub it
off a broadcast or made fun of it. I didn't
go down the full rabbit hole, but I'm I can't
remember it. So that's kind of impressive that it means
that people really put that as a point of emphasis
on all of their call sheets, all of their adiction
to make sure, all right, I'm gonna get this right.
(37:39):
We're gonna go slowly so we don't have any excited.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Utterances because I know, I know absolutely how it happened.
Because a control room on television, you know, working in
control as I did for a long time, it's a machine, right.
You trust the people to type stuff and put it
at You know, there's there's fifteen or twenty people in
a control room. There's a director, there's a technical director,
(38:02):
there's people doing Chiron's, which are the fonts on TV,
and there's a bunch of people doing their jobs in
wait when they go on the air. It is a machine. Okay, chyron,
get ready, put it in, put it in, great, take
it out, take it out? Ready, Ready, camera four, go here,
And you trust everybody to do their jobs. And the
thing is is that it's really the producer's job because
(38:23):
basically the producer gets the show ready and then turns
it over to the director when they're in the when
they're in the in the studio, and okay, the producer
is really a troubleshooter keeping everybody the time, figuring out
issues like it's the producer's job to see Okay, there's
a font before it goes on screen, because you see it.
It's a it's in like a preview window where you
see it before it goes up. And I'm sure no
(38:44):
one just saw it because they've typed Michael Pennix's name
a thousand times before. Here it is Michael Pennocks. Insert
there it is. Wait, oh and then you see what's
on the air. Wait, change it. It's an X. It's
an X. Change it, okay, hot, change it and it
goes up. But I see how it does because the
way a control room is is that when when you
do shows for a living for so long, and you're
(39:04):
doing two or three new shows a day, the same
crew is doing it. Yeah, stuff like this is gonna
happen because there's not there's not as many people to
throw the emergency brake, and which is why I'm really
surprised it didn't happen until now. With Michael Pennix's name.
Speaker 4 (39:19):
Also, a lot fewer people to throw under the bus.
I mean, who take you who's the fall guy for this?
Speaker 3 (39:23):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Yeah, well the person know, the person typing the name
in that's okay, so you can.
Speaker 4 (39:27):
Go all the way back to them and not you know,
all the checks and balances up the ladder. I mean
someone's you know, someone's in charge, not that guy.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
Girl and the thing, right, but I mean you're the
but you trust that person to do that job and
to and to put and to put the fonts in
right because they do it all the time. And all right,
that's great.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
This is the fonds, this is so and so.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Who's you know, a mayor's aid, this is so and so,
concerned citizen. You know all the fonts that go up there, Well,
the trust.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
Them, trust producer. He's trying to move up the ladder.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
I'm gonna put an ass in for Michael Pennix. I
want everybody in this room.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
Fires see what a slacker this guy is. He's not
doing any of the checks on my work. So blank him.
I'm doing all the grunt, worth and work, and all
he does is just to point.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
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