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November 26, 2025 40 mins

Jason Smith and Mike Harmon are LIVE and reacting to the latest College Football Playoff Selection Committee Rankings. Have the Rams peaked too early? And Jason’s wondering if we've seen the last of J.J. McCarthy for this season!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Let's give you're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Greeting is
welcome and son Happy Tuesday. Thanks NBC. We got another
hour to wait until Lakers Clippers.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Yay. Hey, hey, hey, they paid a lot of money
to make that.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
A standalone game.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Why the hell are there only three games? That's a
whole other thing. You've already given up Thursday. You're not
even gonna pretend to play against the NFL. And then
you only have three games on a Tuesday, both two
of the three of them are on Peacock.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
What the hell are we doing?

Speaker 1 (00:58):
Yeah, that's how it got silver, That's how I got
your ass up.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
That's how it.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Goes to wait another hour. Wait, don't worry, it'll start.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
What a clown show. I mean, I'm glad they're cashing
checks right. The money Princh just the same, but seems
to me other than getting U well, I forget what
the company is. Giannis is doing national ads, Steph Curry's
doing ads where he's pretty much uh taking shots at
every every one of his contemporaries.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
That's all finding good, But nobody can watch your damn games.
That's the What have I said from the beginning with this?
What have I said from the beginning? And you want
to say, oh, well this is no, no, no, no, I'm
watched with it can actually schedule more than three games
in the night. Well, are we giving it up to
lamp pass n c A games in Vegas stuff?

Speaker 3 (01:44):
Is that what you're doing? You're backing down on that.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
I watched a lot of holiday Vegas basketball the last
couple of I'm not saying I did Syracuse and two
in those well, I'm not.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Saying I didn't watch it.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
I'm just saying, why are we giving up spots on
a calendar?

Speaker 3 (01:58):
Well, look, you can't have games every night. I mean
the other it's a lot of teens holiday holiday holiday guys.

Speaker 4 (02:04):
I think eight o'clock pm Pacific tip is past Kawhi
Leonards bedtime.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
Oh no, no, he's still he's still out planting trees.
Then it's just the sun is just going down, and
then he's planning tree Then he comes and plays again.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
There's something I'm missing. Trees.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Yeah, yeah, planning trees. He's a tree guy hugger. He's
a tree hugger, the trees, the planning, going back to
I knew he was a fun guy, but I didn't know.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
About the trees.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
No, the whole thing with him, with the with the
trees that he planted, no idea what you're talking about.
I made a harden. The later it gets into the night,
the better he is. Oh my god, do you guys,
I feel like I'm Kathy Bates and Misser do you
have amnesia? The whole Kawhi Leonard, the whole extra money
he was getting because he was playing the other.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
NBA didn't care about that.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
So why should we show Bob Okay side show Bob.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
That's what we get. And the NBA would have you
believe that story never exists. Yeah, yeah, exactly. They gave
you the neuralizer like it was met in black. I'm like,
what are you guys talking about.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
No, we're well aware of the story. It just became
a non story. I mean that was like the the
epay and show. Hey that's why issue a year ago.
It was two weeks later it disappeared. It was just
a throwaway joke. And you guys, what are you talking? Like?

Speaker 3 (03:17):
Water mine? Did I change planets sometime in the.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Last day if you just met him, I feel like,
what's his name from yesterday? When he when he finds out,
Oh no, what do you mean? Who's Oasis?

Speaker 3 (03:28):
Check? No Oasis? All right, there's no Oasis. I mean
that's that's so I feel like it's happening right now.
My good. Sometimes we like to fund you a little bit.
I mean, you know, yeah, you get your brain on
a track, and it's how do we throw something in
the middle. See if we can't get you off your track,
like you're at Autopia, No at Disney. But that's okay

(03:49):
because now we're a minute closer to the Lakers class.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
Yeah, so exciting fifty six minutes.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
I have a fifty said tic tic tic tic tic TikTok.
I mean that's the beginning of the broadcast. I mean
they're not tipping off before we get.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
To the uh, you know, the big the latest college
football playoff poll.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
Let me just say this.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Right, early parts of the NBA season so far, I'll
be honest with you about something. It's it's been nawn
at me all day. Maybe because I've watched my team
lose in college basketball last couple of days, but it's
been nawn at me all day.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
Sure, Uh? Is that?

Speaker 2 (04:19):
You know?

Speaker 1 (04:20):
We talk a lot about windows to win a championship
in sports, and is this team's window opens? This team's
window open, and coming into this year, a team like
the Knicks in the East, their window was wide open
to win it, right, obviously, look at the talent they
have on the team and there and it's wide open
to win.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
Some injuries throughout the conference, right, you talk about Indiana.
We talked a lot about Halliburton yesterday.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
Caliberton may be the MVP, he may really be the
real MVP of the NBA.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
But just going team for team, the number of guys
that are missing in action, Trey Young for Atlanta, they're
still above the fold as it were in the playoff birth,
what are you getting from mb can Tyrese MAXI carry
them relief for forty eight minutes a night and going
on down the line.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
But the thing that gets me is that you know,
windows open and shut much quicker than you think they are.
And watching a team like the Knicks right seeing teams
like the Celtics, even though you're they're playing without Jason Tatum,
he's going to be out for a while. But these
teams that we have seen the last few years that
have kind of that have kind of run things the

(05:26):
last few years, that that have been at the top
of conferences playing well and Okay, this year there's a
little bit change at the top. And obvious Oklahoma City
is better than anybody. They can win seventy five games
this year.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
Who knows.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
But I look at a team like the Knicks and
I watch them play, and I just say to myself, boy,
they look really slow defensively. It's not that they're bad defensively,
it's that they're slow and younger, more athletic teams, even
teams that aren't very good, are blowing by them defensively
and putting up points. And seeing teams like Orlando and

(05:59):
to an extent, Detroit. But we knew Detroit was gonna
be good, but maybe not this good Toronto. Seeing all
these teams that have gone younger and able to put
stuff together, you can really see the difference in a lot,
even the Lakers to an extent. Now, hey, going younger,
not relying on Lebron Jay, and look, it's not Lebron
and Ad who are older and injured and they don't
run the court like they used to. Seeing the Lakers

(06:20):
do it is a different thing. And I just wonder
that if for teams like the Knicks, and I put
the Knicks up there, because I see how much they're struggling,
especially defensively. They struggle because teams get to the basket
a lot easier on them. You see, their defensive metrics
are bad. Offensively, they don't go up and down the floor,
and every basket is contested, and that's really difficult after
a while. Not suddenly the team, the teams like them

(06:42):
are going to fall off the cliff. But when when
every possession is contested and these other younger teams are
are are doing this to you, it's gonna wear you down.
And the window for teams like that to win, I
don't know that it's not shut. I mean this is
just me, you know here first for month of the season,
but seeing those teams that play, hey, you are getting

(07:03):
circles run around you by younger teams and other teams
that are terrible are still keeping it close with you
all the way through just because they are younger and fresher.
And maybe you're pulling out some of these games against
against the teams that are that are inferior, but they're
much more difficult than they have to be. And these
teams on the rise that have a lot of talent
that are young again, Orlando Detroit, you know, look at this,

(07:25):
even the new look Lakers. Now you say, Okay, these
teams really have a big advantage and maybe and their
window is wide open. I mean, I can't believe I'm
saying this, but I look at the Knicks the first
month of the season. I go, maybe their window to
win a championship is shut. Maybe they're just gonna be
a nice fifty win team because they'll beat teams as
good as them, they'll win most of their games at home,
they'll beat the contenders now and again. But you get

(07:46):
in a playoff against a younger team that's going to
be able to play and transition a lot better, and
I wonder if the window isn't closed.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
Yeah, I wonder when we talk about playoff basketball and
Historically it slows down pace and play advantage. The plotting
style that the Knicks play right a little slow it
down half court basketball. But when we look at throughout
the Eastern Conference right now, they're fourth in terms of

(08:13):
point differential. They can get advantage of early scheduling. Certainly
at the Garden, no question about it. The thing I
worry about your squad is that you can't hit free
throws when it matters, and if they are close games
in the playoffs, that you're gonna lose a couple of those,
and you're gonna be pulling well your hair out, eyebrows,
the eyebrows. You're gonna be plucking your eyebrows like you're

(08:34):
that kid in that the Internship because he's stressed out
and Vince Vaughan gets all weird out. But no, I
get that right. You look at the heat. They just
get Tyler Hero back off his injury. He immediately comes
back with the twenty four point performance. They're eight and
two in their last ten, the Raptors nine and one
in their last ten, and the Pistons, who may never

(08:54):
lose again. So all of that to say, yeah, you're
chasing younger teams and trying to find that distance margin
of victory. You're not gonna have a lot of comfortable moments,
and maybe that over time becomes an issue. Right, we
talk about stressful innings pitchers, right, you know a quick
twelve pitch inning versus all right, it went twenty four pitches. Yeah,

(09:16):
you might have gotten out of it unscathed, but you know,
the domino effect is there. And certainly the more that
you have to rely on Brunson to try to lead
you latent games and we see Kat having to play
extra minutes when he's not breaking baseball card packs. That
he's a guy that I worry about come April and May.

(09:36):
That doesn't have enough left in the tank. As much
as they've done a better job at getting more of
a rotation going than they did under TIBs, That there
is a level of concern, But I'm gonna go glass
half full. That playoff basketball is enough to where get
in and these guys healthy. You still have a puncher
chance to win the conference.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
So we'll have more basketball throughout again. Forty nine minutes
away now from Lake. That's all you were able to
stall with Stock forgetting it. So the latest college football
playoff Poll is out and not a lot of surprises. A. Right,
we didn't get a lot of surprises. We saw some
teams get eliminated from what could be the bottom part
of the pool, but top five teams are the same

(10:18):
Ohio State, Indiana, Texas A and M Georgia and Texas Tech. Now,
this is where things are going to get interesting because
depending on how things go right, this now looks like
a the college football playoff going into this week where
it's all rivalry week. Right, we got Ohio State Michigan
this week, and then we get the conference championship games
the following week. This is where we get into the

(10:41):
bid stealing mode of college football, right like at the
end of the conference tournaments and in college basketball, you
get a lot of schools that are sweating out the
end because oh boy, we're right on the bubble and
if this team pulls an upset and wins this conference,
they get an automatic bid. So now they have to
go and it doesn't mean you're not going to take
these other schools. So we're in the big stealing part

(11:02):
now of the college football season.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
The guy that in me, the skeptic that has always
watched conference tournaments with great attention to what the officials
are aren't doing in a given game. You know, if
this team wins, they're suddenly on the bubble. He guess
what they won? Yeah, yeah, I mean it's it's watching
for years, but yeah, we're certainly at that point. Here.
A couple of interesting comments from the spokesperson in once

(11:28):
these were revealed today though, that that have me waving
my hand off, like I'm Harvey Kaitel or Robert de
Niro in many a mob movie. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
So the two biggest ones you're looking at this week
is now potentially Alabama's got to win the SEC to
make it, just make it. Where a couple of weeks
it was, hey, Alabama's great their number four lou job
kaln de bor is doing. Now suddenly they might have
to win the SEC to get in because suddenly BYU
Texas Tech goes BYU's way. Oh good luck. Guess what, Alabam,

(12:00):
You're out. Same thing with Michigan, Ohio State. Everybody who's
in the playoff this week, they want Ohio State to
just you don't even have to win big, but they're
all where in Ohio State gear because if Michigan wins
this game, guess what, No matter what happens in the
Big Ten Championship game, Michigan's getting in because they will
have beaten the best team in the country who has
been number one all year long. So you're in the

(12:21):
big stealing season for the college football playoff, which is
incredibly exciting. And I don't think anybody really envisioned this
as being such a big part. Right when the playoff
went to twelve, probably college ball said Okay, we do this,
we do this, we do this, And I told you
that the big the big thing's going to be how
do you deal with a team that gets their third

(12:42):
loss in their conference championship, because then you're waiting that
against other two loss teams that did make to the
conference championship. So okay, that's a big one. You're okay,
we win these games, we get here, we get here.
But now, I don't know that anybody really thought that, oh,
we could get into a big stealing situation here where
we're real like thinking, Okay, if team A, you know,
Ohio State, gets the Big Ten champion game undefeated, they're

(13:04):
gonna beat the crap out whoever they playing. But maybe
they don't and something happens and suddenly, wait, we're cutting
that berth out a bit. This is now a new
wrench that's been thrown into the playoff. And those are
the two biggest games this weekend, because really Notre Dame
also doesn't have a spot trench in the playoffs. If
these couple of games don't go their way, you're looking

(13:26):
at Alabama and Notre Dame getting left out. And I
don't know that there's any any magical power of well,
we love these teams and want them on television.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
It's a TV show.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
I don't know there's any power that can help that actually
happen well, And.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
We have the other domino that may or may not
fall as the weak unfolds when we talk about the
egg Bowl and Lane Kiffen's ultimate decision right the press
conference that everybody awaits, but I just found it laughable.
Be remiss not to mention it here.

Speaker 5 (13:56):
Quote.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
We've been waiting for them to have that signature win
to really put them where they need to be. That's
what the committee chair said of Oregon. A win over
USC is that signature win that everybody was waiting for.
You were a ten and a half point favorite. Lincoln
Riley doesn't win there. This is not a new phenomenon.
They haven't won there in forever. So that's the signature

(14:18):
win to put them ahead of Ole miss not. Hey,
this guy may leave, so let's start moving them down
the rankings as a preemptive strike ahead of the Egg
Bowl and whatever announcement he makes this weekend.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
Are you kidding me? That's the signature win. The hell
are we doing here? I want to you know what
I want to see selfishly is because you know they
made a big deal a couple of years ago keeping
Florida State travers Travis. Yeah, if Lane Kiffin leaves, we're
taking and they tell him he's got to be out
before the before the playoff games, we're taking Mississi old
missus out. O.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
We talked about that last week. Coach Right, they lost
their coach. They're out.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
They've opened, but they've opened the door for it by
moving them already. Well, we haven't done that.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
No, you already did. You already did.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
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Speaker 3 (15:09):
Coming up next. Yeah, we got more in the NBA
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Speaker 1 (15:11):
Again forty four minutes away from Lomo Snappers. But we
have the first of some big takes going forward in
the NFL this week as we get set for a
huge Thanksgiving Day. A smorgasbord of football on the way
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Speaker 5 (15:29):
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So I got a big hot take coming your way
off a big quarterback dilemma in the NFL coming up
in a few minutes. But is it Max Brosman's not
Brett Max Brosber? Oh it doesn't he sound like a
guy that owns a year round Christmas shop. You ever
going to Brozmer's Christmas shop? Like, that's what he sounds like,
Max Brosberg. You get it's like it's Christmas all year round,

(16:55):
and if the store is open all year round, go
to Max Brosmer's Christmas facial Harry looks like he's right
out of Shakespeare in Love and he is a little
yeah he is.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
He is a little bit like that. Yeah, I could
see that.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
Well, that's a good refer it Shakespeare loves.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
Yeah, go a little. I mean it's an Oscar war
Make a little deeper.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
What did that beat? It beats something that it didn't
that like that? That wind didn't hold up right, Like
I love Shakespeare in Love. It was awesome, right, they
do the play and they tell it like the story
of the Taming of the Shrew and different it was.
I was awesome for a Shakespeare somewhat nerd like I
used to be. I love that, but I kind of
felt like when it won, like it beat a movie

(17:31):
that Like now you know, twenty years later, we're.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
Like, oh, really that wow, Saving Private Ryan?

Speaker 1 (17:36):
Oh yeah, thin Red Line, Well, Saving Private Ryan was
better than Thin redid yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
Yeah, but but still on the pantheon of yeah, movies,
we're done with movies. Okay, we're done with one. Elizabeth
and Life is Beautiful.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I said, that's a heavy year, man. Yeah, no,
it's not a heavy year. That's a lot of heavy stuff,
so cliche. You got a little bit of a comedy
going on there. But when you think about the pantheon
of war movies, and that's you know, you go back
in the in the annals of time and those always
come through, Those always are things. Are are periods that
that are immortalized, you know, on the silver screen. They think, wow,

(18:11):
Saving Private Ryan really didn't win, Like Shakespeare in Love
what I mean. Shakespeare Love was a fantastic movie, right,
But what Spielberg did the opening scene of that, you
felt like you were watching them actually storm the beaches.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
I had three elder and gentlemen leave the theater head
in hands that we actually went out to check on them. Yeah,
like that's how powerful that first twenty minutes. But to
talk about that that year as a whole, you had affliction, right,
Nick Nolty nominated for that great movie. I don't know
how many people saw clothing American History X okay sure,

(18:46):
and Gods and Monsters, right, So yeah, like you start
talking about a civil action, the Truman Show, Like there
were a lot of other movies. So when Shakespeare in Love,
it's like what they did with the play. It was
well acted, it was It was a really good movie.
Gwyneth Paltrow was really good. And Ben Affleck is you know,

(19:07):
he's in the beginning and the end of it. Tom
Wilkinson is good. The story and the and the script
is phenomenal, telling telling, telling a story about Shakespeare's move
Shakespeare's plays, mixing a lot of them in and doing
it in one fell swoop was so unbelievably impressive. And
I think it was just the time where okay, we're

(19:28):
worred out by these moves. This was something different that
jumped in and I thought it was great. But then
I saw it saving Private Run, and I'm like, oh
my goodness, how did this not win? I mean, you
watch it now and you go, how did Tom Hanks
not win for saving Private Runnini runner around? I mean,
come on, how pissed were you at? Matt Damon? No,
I'm not going back. What do you mean You're not
going back now? I'm not going back.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
You're going back, man, This entire platoon is risking their life. No,
I'm not going back. I'm not going back. No, you're
going back, you jerk. No, you didn't hurt it at
the end everybody died because no, you wouldn't want to
go back.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
You gotta go back there, Jo was it come get?

Speaker 2 (20:00):
You know?

Speaker 3 (20:00):
I'm not going back?

Speaker 2 (20:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (20:02):
No, I don't know. We did not earn that. I
was really good in the video for one though. Darn
you've seen that edity. Yeah, Billy Bob Thornton for a
simple plan was best supporting actor. No, I mean because
of Shakespeare. I'm gonna go see Hamnet this week. I'll
let you know how that. Okay, very good.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
My wife is actually reading that for a book club.
I said, how is it so far? She goes, eh,
I'm like, okay, all right, all right, because I always
cross off. Okay, whenever she tells me something's good, I'll
read it from her book club. But if not, I
just do my no. Sure, and uh, it's right right
now she's reading Hamnet. And here's how fast I read.
I just started Lincoln Highway by Amertols, which is one

(20:39):
of the best books the last twenty five years. I
always wanted to read it, and now I'm getting around,
like okay, I'm gonna read it now, and like it's
like a six hundred page book and like I started that,
but like Pam started Hamnet like a week before I
started Lincoln Highway and now I'm gonna finish it tonight.
And she still has like a third of the book
club to go.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
Yeah. I just picked up a couple of things. I mean,
Lincoln Highway is a doorstop.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Man.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
It's like, oh my god, Jake, how are you are?

Speaker 1 (21:04):
You're really reading those pages like I'm just doing like
I'm looking over going turn turn turns and Oh, interesting
turn turn turnturt Oh interesting turn turn turn turntory.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
Interesting. Oh that's pretty good.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
Ah, go to bed out one hundred and fifty pages
that I'm done.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
I'm going to bed.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
Yeah, she she hates that hate way to marker.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
Now, positivity there, We've told you for it, talk about
being ahead of the curve. We're gonna give you something
new here.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
So what else is new? Come on? I told you
for a.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
Long time the Rams are the best team in the NFL,
and now you're seeing it a lot. We told hey
this week they're gonna beat the Seahawks. They're the best
team in the NFL, and they're the one team you
can believe in. We talked about this and now congratulations
all the shows that are saying, you know, the Rams
are the best. We told you for weeks Rams are
the best team in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
Well, the best was this win was also a not
a clean win, no right, this was a all right,
we had to muddy it up and we had to
go win a different way, right, and they did.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
And that's the best part about the Rams is that
they can win any game. The big like the two.
The one playoff concern about the Rams is obviously when
you see them have to play on the road deep
in the playoffs, playing in Philadelphia. Yeah, not quite their bag.
Not that bad, baby, Yeah, not quite their bag. So
that's the one thing. So home field, right, the Rams
have everything they want right now. They're the best record

(22:19):
in the NFC. And yes they lose the tie breaker
with the Eagles. Boy, the Eagles look like they might
struggle a little bit. That gas tank might be on
a little bit on e the rest of the way.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
But still, how often do you get to Week thirteen
in a league year though that you're just going, I
don't know what kind of effort I'm getting weak to
week because again we talked about it with you and
I and then with Jason LOCKEFORI. Yesterday you're up twenty
one nothing and then it's it's still a division rival.
Why the hell wouldn't you want to go through the throat? Yeah? No,
I mean you know what I mean, Like, I just

(22:48):
don't understand the philosophy and how that the ebb and
flow of that game. It made no sense. Uh, well
the Eagles have made no sense, all ya. That's what
I mean. Like everybody else you can say sucks it
mostly sucks pretty good at any given Sunday, Rams, Well,
I tell you this whole place sucks.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
That's right, it sucks. That's like fifteen teams. But I
will tell you this about the Rams with the best
team in the NFL, right, to give you something a
little bit different. On the Rams, everything they have done
so far has been according to what they've wanted to do,
what they felt they have had to do. We have
to win early because we can't rely on being a

(23:27):
hot team at the end of the year. We have
to have more of an f some winning or we
have to be ready to play early. We can't wait
for Matthew Stafford to round into MVP form by the
middle of the season. So what's happened. Matthew Staffords decided
to say, Oh, I'm an MVP forum right now. Since
the beginning, Stafford's been great. The defense has been phenomenal. Right,
that's basically what they've and you know, hey, this is

(23:48):
what great teams are built on. Your quarterback is great,
Your defense is great. Show me two teams that have that,
and I'll show you teams at the top that are
Super Bowl contenders. Right, Your quarterback's great, your defense is great.
The only fear I have for the Rams, right and
this is also a Rams team that hasn't run the
football really well yet, and maybe they won't.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
I want to.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
I would like to think that, Sean mcvase, you know what,
when the weather gets colder, we're playing. We're gonna run,
Kien Williams more, We're gonna run the football. Give you
something a little bit different, because right now the running
game is is really complimentary to it to a fall
to the passing game. But why would you stop? You
have guys that are you guys at stop that are
unbeatable on the outside. Right, You're throwing the football wherever
you want to all year long.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
Well, and plus side is do you look at their
schedule down the stretch. You don't exactly have a bunch
of cold weather games, no, right indoors or at home?
Detroit comes to la.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
The one fear I have for the Rams right in
this time when we're all looking for something, looking for
teams to step up. The only thing that about the
best team in the NFL, the only thing that gives
me any sort of pause right now, is that are
they peaking too early? They're playing so well for so
long Stafford throwing four touchdowns a week up until last

(24:57):
week at the beginning, at the front of every MVP conversation,
the defense is shutting everybody down every single week. It
doesn't matter, and that's great, But we're still got five
games left. Can you sustain this all the way through
the season and into the playoffs? Because what do we
see from the Lions last year? Lion's best team in football? Right,

(25:19):
they ran through everybody, get to the playoffs all of
a sudden, what happened, Well, we had a bad quarter
and a half against Washington. What happened, Yeah, we couldn't
win that game, and guess what, We're going home right
like it happens that way. That's my one concern is that, Okay,
the Rams have peaked a little bit too early, and
maybe by the time the season ends, they're entering the
playoffs a little bit of the that gas tank closer

(25:40):
to e than you want it to be, and we're
going to be talking more about teams that are going
to be hitting their peak now, because now is when
you really want to start peaking. End of November Thanksgiving
through the end of the year. It's a little bit
longer season now. Is seventeen games, so but right about
now you get to that last five four or five weeks.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
Of the season.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
This is where we want to enter the playoffs, play
in our best football when we're on auto pilot as
far as what we know what we need to do,
we know how we need to attack every single game.
It's it's a complete and total uh plan following that
we're comfortable with and we just go out and we
just railroad teams. But the Rams, now they've played so well,
are they really going to be one of those door

(26:17):
to door teams where beginning of the year they were great,
middle of the year they're even better, end of the year,
great through the playoffs. That's my one concern. That's really
tough to keep up when you're when you're peaking like
the Rams are now.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
Well, you know, my my usual fear with this stuff
is the the injury gods, the football gods. You know,
they they swing on the pendulum. Uh. To this point,
the Rams haven't really been hit very hard in that regard.
A little bit on the line, a little bit when
you're talking, you're missing higbee, uh, changing up how you're working,

(26:50):
operating with more tight you know, two tight end sets
are three tight end sets at times, et cetera. To
your point, not being able to run the ball. So
that's just my fear. It's like you've had all these
other teams that have had to fight through a lot
of adversity in the RAMS. Historically that's been the case, right,
the slow start oftentimes due to key guys missing time

(27:10):
due to injury or limitations, say on Matthew Stafford who's
playing but not not playing at full throttle because of
different ailments. Right now, you're looking at them as one
of the teams at the bottom end in terms of
games lost by starters due to injury. And I always
fear that as we get into the winter months that

(27:33):
you know, we get some kind of equalization, normalization that
happens in that regard, right, other teams get healthy and
get reinforcements, and then suddenly you're missing a key pivotal
cog to either side of your offense and defense. For
the Rams, they've the one thing that they have been
able to navigate is subpar special teams to this point, right,

(27:55):
that has been the one thing. And when you get
to the playoffs and we talk about the march and
for error, being a little bit less that perhaps that's
the thing that may fell them as well. So I
got to imagine in the front office there's a lot
of time and consideration trying to shore up little inefficiencies

(28:15):
in the return games, and certainly when you talk about
your placekicker exit out about a Fresco exit, swalling down
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Speaker 1 (28:25):
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Speaker 4 (28:36):
I thought it was because I've been so good at
the deep middle bawl ever since that combine, we've got
a lot of fun.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
So there's that too.

Speaker 4 (28:46):
Yeah, I think his beard is grayer, but sure, you're
talking about college football earlier. The Big twelve Championship game
is going to be hosted by the Cowboys Stadium a
week from Saturday. Texas Tech gets in if it wins
its finale as expected. Saturday number eleven BYU gets in
with a win in its finelle. Texas Tech, already destroyed BYU,
had to head about three weeks ago, twenty nine to seven.

(29:08):
In the big picture, the new college football playoff rankings
came out tonight. The top five stayed the same. Texas
Tech is ranked number five in the country. Only the
teams that finish in the top four in the final
Playoff Committee rankings a week from Sunday get that first
round by so Texas Tech, as of now, would open
the playoff by hosting a first rounder against Tulane, the

(29:28):
best of the smaller conference teams at number twenty four.
I will say North Texas is having a great season
and it will likely finish eleven and one after this week,
so it could face Tulane in the American Conference title game.
And the North Texas coach, Eric Morris, is leaving the
school for the Oklahoma State job after this season. Morris
was Patrick Mahomes offensive coordinator at Texas, so I knew this.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
And Hector Alissando comes in to coach the team and
Robert Loja is his defensive Robert Low.

Speaker 4 (29:57):
They have a very attractive kicker, yes, oh yeah, yeah,
an old quarterback sinbad on the defensive line.

Speaker 7 (30:04):
That's another movie from many a decade.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
Ago, Jason Bateman when he couldn't get a job.

Speaker 7 (30:11):
I think Sinbat even bet on that game.

Speaker 4 (30:16):
Three games in the NFL this Thursday, Thanksgiving Green Bay
at Detroit, the first of them. Packers running back Josh
Jacobs was limited at walk through with a knee injury.
He did not play. Last Sunday. Green Bay quarterback Jordan
Love practice fully despite an injured left shoulder. The second
game on Thanksgiving, Kansas City at Dallas. The Chiefs confirmed
that running back Isaiah but Checko will return to play Thursday.

(30:37):
He's missed the past month with a knee injury. Cowboys
wide receiver George Pickens was upgraded to limited practice with
knee and calf injuries. The Thursday night game Cincinnati and
quarterback Joe Burrow playing at Baltimore, and there is one
game streaming only for most people. Black Friday, Chicago at Philadelphia.
Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson, by the way, did return to

(30:59):
full practice today. He's had toe, ankle, knee injuries recently.
Did practice.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
He's not right, he is trust he is not not
even clean sixty percent at best.

Speaker 4 (31:09):
No, it's it's a little bit like late in Cam
Newton's career where he couldn't and wasn't running, and now
he wasn't special anymore.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
You know what.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
Watching the Jets corral him on Sunday when he couldn't
get outside and he couldn't scramble reminded me like when
I was a kid in this and in this one
kid that would throw a fastball when I was in
the Little league. He's better than anybody. Brian Cochley, right,
he could throw a fastball like like seventy miles an hour,
and I remember, wow, this is no one can touch
him one.

Speaker 7 (31:36):
We can throw that speedball by big like a fool boy.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
And then, uh, my last year, all of a sudden,
I started hitting him like all like like it wasn't
it wasn't, it wasn't anything crazy. Other then I got
older and maybe his fastball kind.

Speaker 7 (31:50):
Of sum literally he lost his face.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
So I was like, wow, I can't believe I'm I'm
I can't believe I'm I'm actually hitting him. And I realized, okay,
maybe that I kind of felt that watching the Jets
and Lamar Jackson. I can't believe the Jets are slowing
down Lamar Jackson, how is this even possible?

Speaker 7 (32:06):
By the way, as far as the Springsteen lyrics. Does
nobody ever bring this up?

Speaker 4 (32:11):
Catchers don't put down one finger for the speedball and
two for the curve?

Speaker 3 (32:15):
What what is with that?

Speaker 7 (32:17):
Nobody has ever spoken against that.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
I don't think he was talking about baseball. Why do
you think nobody went to see the Springsteen movie? Went No?
So oddly?

Speaker 4 (32:27):
It's that movie that's actually a complete unknown.

Speaker 7 (32:30):
Thank you good night.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
Yeah, you couldn't have paid me to walk in on that.
And I love my guy.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
From MEJ just like the the Gate receipts a complete unknown.

Speaker 4 (32:40):
I would have walked out on that movie on a plane.
The Buffalo Bill, sidewide receiver Brandon Cooks, the Saints side Kicker.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Ka wait, actually, TJ. That movie was on a Road
to Nowhere a complete unknown? Was the Bob Dylan one
Road to Nowhere?

Speaker 2 (32:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (32:57):
The Red Sox acquired pitcher Sonny Gray from the Cardinals
in the NBA only three games. We just got in
a final Orlando one forty four to one oh three
over Philadelphia. We're still half an hour away from the
tip of the late game.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
Would do you say? We're still two and a half
hours away for seams like that?

Speaker 1 (33:14):
All right?

Speaker 3 (33:14):
Very good?

Speaker 4 (33:15):
Actually, it's after eleven pm Eastern Lakers hosting the Clippers.
Pajamas optional. Washington ended a fourteen game losing streak with
a home win against Atlanta one thirty two to one
thirteen c. J McCollum forty six points and in college
hoops number seven Michigan and then Holiday tournament in Vegas
has just ripped Auburn one oh two seventy two. Earlier

(33:36):
Tennessee beat number three Houston seventy six seventy three.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
Back to you, thanks Stevo. Jason Smith Mike Harmon live
from the Fox Sports Radio Studios coming up next. Yeah,
you want that big hot take on a quarterback situation?
Maybe we have seen the last this year of a
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Speaker 5 (33:59):
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Speaker 1 (34:08):
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon,
Live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. And you want
a big, fat hot take going into this week of
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for you.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
Hit me so.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
At all good thoughts to Vikings quarterback JJ McCarthy in
concussion protocol after reporting symptoms on the flight home from
Green Bay on Sunday. It's the third injury that he
has had this year, and the season has been awful
to the point where you're seeing all these rumors that

(34:44):
maybe the Vikings go after mac Jones in the offseason,
somebody else to bring in.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
To come go make that Traine JJ McCarthy.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Right, and we've told you this is an absolute disaster
for the Vikings because if you're a Vikings fan, you
want blood. You're like, we not only kicked one Pro
Bowl quarterback to the curb, but another guy who's going
to the Pro Bowl this year we kicked to the curb.
I can forgive them for Daniel Jones. Can't forgive him
for Sam Darnold. No, no, no, We're stubborn with JJ McCarthy.

(35:13):
And look, the guy was overdrafted. I told you this
from the beginning. I've watched every JJ McCarthy Michigan game.
He was never the reason they won. They won the
title by limiting his involvement in the game plan. Right.
I know Harball loves him, He loves all his players.
He was overdrafted, and it's so embarrassing for the Vikings
that this is where they're at, where Nick gets even
it's going to the blowback on this is going to

(35:35):
be even worse because now it's okay, after you realize
that you blew it a quarterback, now you have to
go fix it. When you had your guy and you
see Sam Darnald have another Pro Bowl season with the
Seattle Seahawks, Okay, we had the guy. We had the guy. No, no, no,
we couldn't even keep him for a year and bring
JJ McCarthy. No, no, we couldn't even do that. Like
I said, you want blood if you're a Vikings fan,

(35:56):
But I will tell you this is my Bowl prediction.
You have seen the last of JJ McCarthy for this year.
The Vikings know and this is much like what the
Rams did when Jared Goff came in as a rookie
and he was awful and he blew chunks and he
got hurt, and the Rams kept him in bubble rap
for the rest of the season and said, you know what,
not going to come back out and play because you

(36:18):
know there's going to be changed in the offseason. Things
are going to happen, and we're going to get him
a fresh look next year. And so all of a sudden,
they didn't play him because what were they going to gain.
He wasn't going to gain confidence, he wasn't going to
gain There wasn't gonna be a lot of positivity. You
knew there were going to be changes, So he didn't
play the rest of that year. That's I think, what's

(36:39):
going to happen with JJ McCarthy, your third injury. You're
not playing for anything. You're not going anywhere in the NFC.
I mean, you look at the playoff contenders and yeah,
technically you're alive, but you're in last place, right and
you're in last place, you still have division games left
to go. All the teams are better than you are.
You're not going anywhere this year. You have to preserve
any sort of possibility that you can rehabilitate McCarthy in

(37:02):
the offseason and he can come in next year and
take a little bit of a leap, so you can
so see, hey, don't fire all of us. We knew
what we were doing. Just need a little bit of
time for JJ McCarthy, because here's McCarthy two years with
a great offensive coach, and this is what you're getting
from him this year.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
Right, that's a whole thing.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
It's not like, hey, here's an odd match where you're
playing quarterback for the first year defensive coordinator who's come
in and figuring things out. Well, you understand that's a
bad market, that that's a bad uh comparison and a
bad partnering. Uh, this is Wait a minute. He's in
with a great with a great coach, with a great
offensive coach that turned the guy before you into a

(37:38):
great quarterback, that kept Kirk Cousins have at a Pro
Bowl level, and you're not even close to that. You
can barely stay a starter. So at some point they're
gonna need to say, listen, we have to do all
we can to preserve that maybe there's something we can
salvage from him. What's gonna what's it gonna sell, what's
it gonna prove coming back this year? If he's not
ready physically, he's not ready, mentally, he's not ready with

(38:00):
whatever reason he's not achieving, what positives are you going
to get from bringing him back? Because the most likely
scenario is he's gonna get crushed down the stretch he's
gonna play poorly, his confidence will erode even further, the
confidence in him will erode even further. So I'm thinking
maybe we've seen the last of JJ McCarthy for this year.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
Yeah, at some point you just recognize where you're at
and you let it bottom out.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
Right.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
Maybe Brosemer Rosmer it could be that guy that unleashes
a little bit, because we saw a big goose egg
from Addison. We've seen how unhappy Justin Jefferson is. You
got a lot of talent there, and you got Ryan
Kelly back this last week, so you finally had your
offensive line kind of look like he expected it to
look before the season began. And it didn't matter, right

(38:44):
because he's broken, right And to your point, having watched
all those snaps, you were a very anti early draft pick.
Jim Harbaugh should get a fruit basket from the McCarthy
family this holiday holiday holiday season for how he talked
of him in such laudatory terms and certainly helped, and

(39:04):
we always get into that unquantifiable he's a winner category
when it comes down to it. What's interesting is the
six degrees of separation go back to twenty sixteen. You
talk about Jared Goff in Jeff Fisher's final year, and
the coordinator that year was Rob Boris. He had taken
over in twenty fifteen following the fire of Frank Signetti Junior.

(39:27):
That's right, the guy that's currently the offensive coordinator for
the high power Indiana offense. I just thought i'd throw
that in there because it's a fun little six degrees
is what's his buyout? What's his buyout? What do we
go get him? But yeah, it's just interesting you go
back last year, right, there were a lot of questions of, all, right,
do you bring back Kirk Cousins this offseason? But Sam Darnold,
can you bring him back on a franchise tag because

(39:52):
you're not sure where McCarthy is health wise and how
much he's going to be able to ascend or do
you not want that competition in the room with Daniel Jones.
I think he wanted to go have an opportunity to
go be a starter instead of being the bright glass
in case of emergency of McCarthy wasn't ready, which is
how he ended up in Indianapolis and the Anthony Richardson
battle there. But right now you're in no man's land

(40:14):
and Kevin O'Connell's looking more like the guy I questioned
last year when Sam Darnold took all the incoming than
the guy that everybody hailed a genius.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
Exit abya Fresca exit, swollen dome. Jason Smith Mike Harmon
Live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Have we seen
the last of McCarthy for the season. I Am not
going to be surprised if that's the case. Coming up next, Yeah,
we're looking ahead at a big Week thirteen in the NFL.
We spotlight two teams with huge games coming up next.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
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