August 10, 2023 • 42 mins
Jason and Mike discuss the recent episode of Hard Knocks with the Jets and react to the Phillies no hitter.
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tire buying should be. Well, we didn't know we'd have it.
Mike Harmon didn't know we'd open up tonight and go, well,
what's the odd We're gonna have a no hitter tonight. No,
we had a no hitter and Major League Baseball. This
pushes Aaron Rodgers conversation for at least another ten minutes.
We got a no hitter in Major League Baseball and
it was a big, big night. We have a no hitter.
(01:11):
We have your White Sox are winnings, are beating the
Cubs in the ninth inning, so everything is work. We're
helping each other out, so everything's coming up for harmon.
Right now you're beating the Cubs. White Socks are beating
the Yankees, so I'm helping you with your old man.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Yeah, and Fabiano and then Aaron Rodgers had a bad day,
so he's all salty and receivers who might be on
the verge of getting cut or talking out of turn.
Bad job by them, Corey Davis. But we'll get to him.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
This is how it goes. But before we get to
the no hit, I want to say this because obviously
everybody's thoughts and prayers are with Maui on the Big
Island Lehana, the wildfires that have devastated Hawaii over the
course of the past couple of days, and you know,
spending a lot of time today looking at it. We
just were in Leahna, which we were. We that's where
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we were over Thanksgiving. We stayed in Lahna. We we
were We went to Front Street where all the all
the markets are. We went to the Banyan tree, which
had stood for hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years
and to read today about how the wildfires have just
like Lehna is gone, like seeing the video all front Street,
all the shops, the the Banyan tree, everything else, just
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being gone, a place where we spent our entire vacation,
where we were where everybody spends their vacation. We we
were just there seeing it all and and how vibrant
the streets are and how vibrant, uh, you know, Maui is,
and it was such a an incredible experience in Maui
is such a special place and to see it just
gone is was just incredibly shocking today. And you know,
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please have prayers up for Maui. They're gonna need a
lot of our help the big island as well as
they fight the wildfires, which you know right now, there's
no no real cause for it other than it could
be atmosphere conditions of different kinds, and we talk about
climate change and and and that could be what it is.
It doesn't look like there's any bit of nefarious activity.
But just seeing this, I mean, being right there and
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just seeing the video that that just this whole area
that was filled with stores up and down the road,
there was this big school there that was that that
was there, and and like I said, the Banyantry had
been there for hundreds and hundreds of years. I got
so many pictures of my daughter and one of her
best friends there, and and to see it all gone,
it just just makes you stop for a second and
think and and and really, you know, hopefully all our
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thoughts are with Hawaii in this time today and tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Yeah, it's It's one of those things, is that the
day goes on, right We're constantly on the internet for
stories and and going through the blogs and and getting
back into social media, and just heartbreaking some of the
videos making the rounds news coverage U here in southern
California for those and across the states and the globe.
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A bunch of fires breaking out here. I know, it's
been a lot of talk the last couple of weeks
of they're deploying hundreds of goats here here here to
try to help in the prevention. It's just an unfathomable circumstance,
right because once it begins, the amount of resources it
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takes to try to not put it out, but just
to stem the tide is so monumental. So just devastating,
heartbreaking images all day long. So I wish and we will,
we'll work to do more than thoughts and prayers are
gonna need a lot of resources and a lot of help.
Governmental agencies already getting involved. All the places that you
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donate to each year that give human aid are being
called on already. But it is just a devastating look
and just a reminder, you know that we get so
many times anymore. Jason of you know, be thankful for
what your day has been, because there's so many ways
it can turn.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Well, said that, Jason Smithcher with Mike Harmon and Live
from the tirec dot Com Studers. There's already plays you
can't places you can help. I know, website, CNN others
have put up hey if you need to, if you
can donate here or donate here. Maybe you want to
wait a little bit and see who needs more money
and who needs you know where you want to go
with it. But there's already places out there that you
can find pretty easy to be able to help. Again.
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other things happening in the world. And we'll get to
the Jets because every everything is still fine. It's fine
with the Jets. Everything is fine. It's all done. But
a no hitter in Major League Baseball and just his
second start from the Phillies, Michael Lorenzen seven nothing in
it's the Nationals. This is how it ended.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
The three to two pitch, swinging a high five ball
center field, coming in his row house.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
He's calling he.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Has got it.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Lorenzen leaps into the arms of real New Tone and
the Phillies pile out of the knuckout in front of
the man. They celebrate a no hitter tonight by Michael Lorenzen.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Phillies Radio Network on the call. One hundred and twenty
four pitches, a career high for Michael Lorenzen to get
his no hitter. He did walk four so it's not
like he was very close to a perfect game. But
in just his second start, he goes all the way
through the crowd of thirty thousand as you heard erupting.
It only took two hours and nine minutes. This is
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what happens when you pitch a no hitter. And in
today's pace of play, Lorenzo flipping his cap backward after
it was over a great celebration. And you know, this
goes into my philosophy, Mike, about starting pitching. Right, this
is a perfect time to get into starting pitching some
one like Michael Lorenzen, who was just obtained at the
deadline from the Tigers four minor leaguer. Now, Michael Lorenzen
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throughout as he look, he's thirty one years old. He
has been an okay starter throughout his career. Right, He's
never been elite. He has been acceptable. He's had some
years whereas where he's had a bunch of starts and
his his ERA is under is under three or four.
He's had some seasons where eh, you know, not so great.
But he was sought after the deadline here uh era
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for a really bad Tigers team of three and a half.
So he was sought after the deadline. This proves my philosophy.
What do you think about think about starting pitching. I
kind of think about it like you think about milk, right,
Like you buy milk and you want to make sure
it says it says best if drank by or expires
on this date, right or yeah? Or you buy something
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else that says best if used by like you buy
you buy some kind of lunch meet and lunch meat,
and it says best if used by August second, August fourteenth,
whatever it is. Starting pitching. There should be a label
on every starting pitcher that is good, that is desirable,
like this is best if purchased at deadline. That's rich.
(08:10):
Would be like if you're thinking of buying big time
starting pitching in February. No, no, no, no, no. Look at
what does a science sat starting pitching best if purchased
by deadline? Starting pitching is so dicey, Right, It's so
dicey to say, hey, we're gonna build our team around
starting pitching. Right. I've watched my team try to do
that for the last eight years. One year they hit
lightning in a bottle with it in twenty fifteen. Ever since,
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on the starting pitching we have now the Mets, they've
had to jettison everybody, get rid of guys. It's too
much of a dice roll. It's too difficult because too
much can go wrong with starting pitching. With elite starting pitching,
there can be injuries, there could be ineffectiveness, and you
are paying somebody who could have a down year be
unavailable because that's how it goes with pitching. Pitching is
always difficult. You never know when a player is one throwaway,
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one pitch away from sitting on the injured list for
the next month, two months. The Dodgers hold their breath
every time Clayton Kershaw comes out to pitch. He hasn't
pitched in a couple of months. Starting pitching is an
absolute dice roll. The best time to go get starting pitching,
go get it at the deadline. I just want when
I go into the season, I want my team to
have five guys who can give me a quality start.
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If you give me a if you give me five
guys or three or four guys that have eras about
four and a half, that are about the league average,
that can go six innings and eat innings, that's what
I want. I don't need to have elite guys because
they don't always pitch a leak, you don't always win.
You can have an elite pitcher. He's not gonna be
twenty and seven every year. Sometimes he's gonna be an
elite pitcher. He's gonna be fifteen and fourteen. Well, that
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didn't work out well, but he was great. Yeah, it
doesn't matter. He lost fourteen games, you lost. He won
one more game than he was able to lose. So
if you go into the season with, hey, we just
have starting pitching. That's gonna give us innings, get us
to our bullpen, and then you are contending, go rent
starting pitching at the deadline. That way, you never have
to worry about getting involved in starting pitching for the
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long term. You never have to worry about injuries. Hey
is this guy. No, this guy, he's healthy. We're gonna
have him for a month and a half or two
months whatever it is man and hopefully the playoffs. Then
we can either sign him or not we can let
them go. That's the best part about getting starting pitching right,
that's where you go get it. That's you go get
the elite guys, the guys that are out there that
can make a difference for you and the Phillies. Going
to get Michael Lorenzen you see what he's done so
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far and the no hitter just as an illustration of that.
Then here was a move to go get a starting
pitcher at the deadline. This is what we wanted to do.
The Dodgers. What did they tried? They try to get
a starting pitcher the deadline, and one of Rodriguezy is
I don't want to go well, what do you mean?
I don't want to go there? But they tried. That's
when you obtain starting pitching. If teams followed that philosophy,
they would be much more successful. Anytime I see a
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team sign a starting pitcher to a two to three
year deal or long termed years. Here's thirty five million
dollars a year, I go, how long is that deal
gonna be good for?
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Right?
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Verlanders deal wasn't even good for half a seat. Well,
but before the Mets said okay, it's sign for ust
to move on.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
But that's the thing, right, here's a rare example. When
we're talking about all right rising stars versus the h
or I should say those mid level starters that are
available all right, he's making a career high of about
eight and a half million this year. This is coming
off a four two, four, eight and six record season
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with the Angels last year. So one of those kind
of scratch your head. But hey, the market for starting
pitching is what it is. You mentioned the Botch deal
with the Dodgers, that one. You just wonder how early,
how late all of the talking points and everything that
needed to be checked off did h and had gone through,
particularly when it comes to the you know, the Tigers
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side of things of you know, and and the agents
of all right, with the no trade clause, what can
we do? Dot dot? But that's all been said and done,
so we move on to here. Right, you're talking about
the guy who doesn't cost you very much for the
stretch run. And let's face it, he wouldn't have gotten
out of the sixth with that pitch count and Dave
Roberts as his manager.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Oh yeah, for him, he might have been pulled in
the third inning, I don't know, sixth inning. That you're
being generous right there.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Yeah, so good for him, uh seven seven nothing the
opportunity even if he'd given up the hit to rest
your bullpen For me, it hearkens back to a game
I pitched as a in little league. I threw a
no hitter and I had four walks, And you know why,
because I took the two best hitters and just said,
the rest of these guys can't touch me. You can
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just go stand on first base.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
I thought you were gonna say, and why did I
walk those guys because my best friend's dad was the
umpire and he didn't like me because I did something
the week before.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Legitimately, it was you guys want to chase a little bit,
I'll let's chase, but I'm not giving you anything to hit.
And so like they're cursing at me as they're walking
down to first base, like you see who's batting behind you,
Like it was about as disrespectful as I've ever been
on a field, Like the rest of these guys ain't
touching it, So let's go.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Do I need to throw these pitches because in the
future we won't have to throw them. I could just
point down to first pace.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Well, I mean, I debated plunk in one of the
guys just on principle, you know, but I did.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Wait, you actually had to because I'm trying to think
back Now, I remember a couple of times we'd had
intentional walks in the Little League when I was and
we didn't have to throw the pitches.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Oh I I I was like, all right, I'm not
giving you anything over the plate. Oh oh you want
to swing?
Speaker 1 (13:22):
You just threw an unintentional, intentional walk.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Yeah, so all right, if you want to go reach
on something two feet off the plate and dribble it
back to the mound, so I can come and slap
tag you. Uh, I'm happy to do it, but I'm
not giving you anything, uh in your wheelhouse. But yeah,
it's it's cool to get another no hitter, right, I mean,
we love history. I mean I've heard some lamentation, uh
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in the social media, like ah, now this guy has
got a no hitter. It's like it happens. It's like
it's a rare circumstance. It's still what fewer than three
hundred and fifty in the history of Major League Baseball,
And that's that's a rare occurrence. And yes, maybe we
get a couple in rapid successions, so it seems like
they're more common, but they're not.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
They're not.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
It's still a very difficult proposition and you know, we
got to celebrate those big days when they come through,
Especially for a guy like Lorenzen. You get to prof
for your theory on going and getting starting pitching. At
least for one turn in the rotation, it worked.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Yeah. Look and well, well look he's won both games.
Since the Phillies have got him, they have vaulted themselves
up even deeper into the postseason conversation. Look, you're talking
about last year's defending nationally champions, who who did exactly
what you need to do. Hey, we don't need to
go crazy to win the NL East. Right. We watch
teams go crazy to win their divisions, and all it
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guarantees them is that, Okay, you don't have to play
in that first round and that first little round. But
that's the way it goes. It's same thing with the NBA.
Oh we want to win, we want to be a
top seed, so we have to play in the playing round.
It turns out the playing round it's not that big
a deal anymore. So the Phillies had done it exactly right. Look,
we don't need to go crazy, you know. If we
need starting, look, we'll spend all our money on Trey
Turner and oh boy, did that turn out to be
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a mistake.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
You're chasing it, but you're chasing the braves, and you
recognize what what a fool's errand that would be to
try to get into a spending yes pace, just see
where you're at and then be judicious.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Yeah, and that what did they do? They went and
they bought their starting picture of the deadline. And look
where they are. And the Phillies are just fine now
and everything is happy there. Look the Trey Turner, who
stinks is getting standing ovations in Philadelphia. And Bryce Harper
is saying, I wish I played my whole career here,
And I'm like, this is Philadelphia and everybody loves the city.
They're all the faith. What is happening? This is what
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happens when you do things right. I gotta say when
the Phillies are doing when you do things right, you
do things right. They're doing things right.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
But it's a new world order. It's a topsy turvy
world man, cats and dogs.
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You know we're going to talk about the bad day
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Before we get into the day that was for the Jets,
let me just say this. We're gonna get into it.
There's a lot more college football, a lot of stuff
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happening right now, late breaking news coming in that callen
Stanford to the ACC have hit quote a significant roadblock. Apparently,
according to Pete Famil ESPN, there's always been long odds
the school would actually join the conference because there wasn't
a significant value. Add well, yeah, unless you want your
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GPA of the conference to go up. Yeah, that's why
you call callen Stanford, especially Stanford. It's not look callus.
Everybody is just trying to get a seat at the
table now and they're calling wherever we'll have them right.
And this is like I remember when I was a senior.
When I was a senior, I was going to my
senior prom and there are a lot of people that
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we were friends with in the junior class or junior class,
and senior class was kind of close. And it got
to a point where when the prom was coming up,
if there were if you were a senior and you
weren't day anybody, there were a lot of juniors who
would just come up to you would brazenly and say, listen,
I don't know if you're going everybody to the prom,
but I really want to go. We're kind of all friends.
I'll go with you. We'd like to go together. And
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I saw guys and girls going to the problem, like
you're going to the pal You guys are You should
have asked me what's going on here right because Hey,
they wanted to go to the prom. That's what's going
on here with college football. Everybody wants to go to
the prom. No one wants to be left behind. No
one wants to sit home alone listening to music on
Friday night. Will everybody else is out having fun and
you're in the room with your mom and you're just
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being surly to her because you're not at the problem
and everybody else's That's what's going on right now. Everybody
wants to go to the prom, and everybody wants to
go to the dance, and not everybody can. And a
school like cal and Stanford, Yeah, instead of waiting till
the end here, you gotta be more proactive. You can't
just sit around and hope things are gonna happen for you.
Any any school, Washington State, Oregon State. You gotta figure
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something out and be more proactive. That's why we sit
where we are right now. It's why these stories take
a lot of us by surprise. The sec taken by
surprise with all that's going out with a big ten
and big twelve because everybody else is working on it.
We want to go, We want to do this. You
gotta be proactive. You can't just sit back around. Otherwise
you'renna be sitting around going, uh boy, there's no one
to take us to the dance. There's no one to
take us to the prom. And I really want to
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go to the problem and I want to dance. I
want it to be like the end of Pretty and Pink,
when all the confetti comes down and they play orchestral
maneuvers in the dark. If you leave and it's such
a great time and everybody's looking at KidSing, that's what
I want. You gotta go get it. If it's what
you want, you can't sit back and wait.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Well, and it's something you know, Shan I were talking
about before the show. As you get into all this
fun college stuff is you know, Brian Kelly had the
probably the best point of all it made. It's like,
all right, Notre Dame always for football has been independent, right,
stay independent. Everything else is in the acc Like maybe
that's the answer to all this. Right, Stanford and Gal
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are not desirable football programs, but they are academically and
they are for everything else that is in football and
basketball sometimes but aball team.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Mark Mason's gonna kick your ass. Man, I'll tell he
will kick your ass.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
I celebrate the Yeah, you're going back to two thousand
and one, two thousand and five.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
To all those teams, all those years ago, exactly, they'll kick.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Your no question, one after another. They'll just line up
veritable congo line to beat me down.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
But Kyle Bowler will kick your an.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Now we're going all the way back to two thousand
and three. We could do this all day, but yeah,
it's it's the idea that you've got to be proactive.
And I think to some degree this is just another example,
particularly when we're talking Callan Stanford, of how everybody was
passive thought it would all work out because well, we're
the PAC twelve, the Conference of Champions again, champions and
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so many other things. But the sports, right, I mean,
look basketball obviously for u U c l A and
its history and USC occasionally can we celebrate old miner
a little bit, I don't know, But we go through
the process and it's the type of you know, roll
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through of all right, what do they add Friday, they
were supposed to all sign a deal, right, and then
it didn't happen all right, ten minutes before Okay, these
guys are out and everything crumbles thereafter. So my guess
is you had a lot of chatter and somehow they
didn't get the memo that the meeting was that day.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Oh oh, we didn't.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
We didn't get it.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
We didn't know.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
We thought it was coming, but we didn't get the
memo that it was Friday morning. That suddenly everybody was
going to torpedo at the conference. And now they're left
holding the bag and trying to figure out where they
fit in. And geography doesn't matter in this, and that's
the part that people keep getting hung up on. It's like, oh,
the the geography is it's once you're on a plane.
(23:58):
If two hours and three hours, how much different are
we talking and you're setting up shop for all the
other non football sports, right, We've seen it. We've seen
the schedules where teams in the Midwest or in the
East are playing down in Florida, they're playing on the
West coast for the first month of their season. Guess
what you can zoom it zoom force people back to
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their offices. That's where we're at in the process. Jason,
you can zoom into your classes. Is that ideal?
Speaker 1 (24:27):
No?
Speaker 3 (24:28):
But technology and stuff is our guy. Rick Wilde would
tell you what allows you to get stuff done? Is it? Again,
it's not always going to be fluid. Sacrifices are made,
just like you do with your schedule, just to be
a student athlete to begin with. But so many of
these presidents, I mean to go back to my alma
mater and the disaster they've got on their hands, and
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you realize once again the old truism. Just because you're
in charge with a big title, or you've got the
most money and you're making the most money at any
corporate or whatever else, doesn't mean you know what the
hell you're doing.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Oh, we'll get to your alma mater in a few minutes.
We'll get to your alma mater coming up in a
few minutes after today. We have to get to them.
We have to. But we also have Pete Futech coming
up there from college. I think, yeah, I'm calling it
Peter Palooza because he was on with us the whole
time he was at Lolla Pelle. So we call it
pet palooza.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
I think he had glow sticks, uh chained around his
neck and the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
So we have a lot of college football coming up.
But remember, don't be the last person at the dead.
Do you want to be what looks like o MD
and if you leave and pretty? Uh? But today was
not a great day for the Jets. Yes, last night
was a great night. I watched Hard Knocks three times.
It was awesome. Oh yeah, it was so good. Are
you kidding?
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Did you go out and buy a bunch of uncrustables
to show your support of Zach Wilson.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
No, I just want I just loved watching the open
of Rogers walking out going I'll give you guys some
good blank today and you slowly just hear the roar
of the crowd as he goes out there for his
first practice. As he's walking close, I'm going, We're going
to the super Bowl, man, We're going to the super Bowl.
This is so great, this is I can't believe it.
And every pass is terrific.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
And not all of them, not all of them.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Well, it's okay.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Those battles of Sauce and Wilson, I mean Sauce going
time and time again.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
That's okay because you're talking about the best cornerback in
the NFL and he's on our team, so I don't
really care about that. That's good for us.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
I think Aaron Rodgers is leaning more into the hype
of Sauce between their handshake and all the uh, the
the chain and everything else than than any team maybe
he's ever had.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Oh yeah, well, so come on when someone gives you
a rhinestone pendant at practice, Hey, thanks for coming. Now
you're gonna be my guy. Hey, you're by how you
gave me that? That's worth a lot of money.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Man, And thank you for being a friend.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
But a different day for the Jets today, Like we'll
get into the hole, uh going on with hard knocks
and the big takeaways from last night. But a different
day today as the Jets had a rough joint practice
with the Carolina Panthers, highlighted by Aaron rodgers visible frustration
when they went three and out in their two minute drill,
which was shocking and doesn't happen at the end of
(27:09):
a joint practice. Bryce Young is able to drive the
Panthers down the field for a field goal against the
jets number one defense, right now. This is one day
of practice, but this is a big headline because it's
Aaron Rodgers. Right. It's one day. Yes, the Jets get
the better the day today, No, but it's not a game.
It's still the early part of August. We're a month away.
There's gonna be growing pains. I get that Aaron Rodgers
(27:31):
is frustrated. You gotta start picking things up. There's a
lot of time to get everything done. But this goes
to show you and I can give you a bold
prediction right now. I already know what the three biggest
stories of the year are gonna be in the NFL.
And by that I mean stories we are going to
talk about every Monday, maybe Monday and Tuesday, and every
(27:53):
Friday going into the weekend. I already and there's a
wild card fourth one, but I'd already know the three
story that are gonna be big. Every Monday and Tuesday,
we're gonna talk about these three stories and every Friday
going to the weekend. You're ready, let's go all right?
Number one obviously is Rogers and the Jets. I mean
you could see already. Are there any reports on hey,
(28:14):
how the number one offense with with the with the
Giants did today or the number one offense with the Rams,
how they did and their No, Rogers and the Jets
have owned the storyline and he's got that factor for
this season.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
Well, the Giants were the big story yesterday and the
disaster for Daniel Jones, and I think he kind of
repeated a little bit today. Yeah, I think he kind
of gets buried because now it's a commonplace every everything.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
It's behind Rogers, right, it's the But it's not nearly
gonna be Aaron Rodgers. We're not gonna talk about Daniel
Jones every Monday. We're going to talk about Rogers and
the Jets every Monday, likely on Tuesday, every Friday going
into the week.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
So I don't have a choice. No, you do, even
if it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
How is it doesn't matter you you really think there's
a bigger story in the NFL this season than Rogers
and the Jets. Tell me what the bigger story?
Speaker 3 (29:02):
The logo?
Speaker 1 (29:04):
No, it's not because half your fans hate the new
logo you're going to they can't. I actually like that.
You're gonna go to the bear like the bear is
a door. We get the little bear there, but Rogers
and the Jets will be number one. Number two will
be the Broncos and Sean Payton and Russell Wilson that
is number two. What's going on this year? Sean Payton,
(29:25):
the genius. Russell Wilson, just like Aaron Rodgers last couple
of years, has stirred the drink as far as quarterbacks go.
How was this week good? Was this bad as Russell
Wilson washed? Is he really good? Denver's a high profile team.
Peyton comes in as a high profile coach who's unafraid
to put his opinions out there. We see what he's
done this offseason already with Oh, I don't like hard knocks,
(29:45):
and I don't like the other coaches that were here
last year. Number two Denver and Sean Payton. Number three
Dak Prescott and the Cowboys. No matter, that's no matter
how Dallas does every week. Either it's either great for
Dallas but they still or they're gonna suck and they
suck even more than you think. That's how we talk
about the Cowboys. Hey they're three and oh but they
(30:06):
still suck. No wait, wit they're eight, No, but they
still suck. Or they're four and four no, they suck
worse than you think. Those three stories every Monday, every Tuesday,
every Friday, without fail, those are the three biggest stories
in the NFL that will be on rinse, repeat for
the next four and a half months.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
It's pretty good. It's a pretty good list you've got
going on there. I think I will add because of
where we are geographically located. And the boy wonder part
of it all is what Sean McVeigh do after nearly
quitting and being bullied back onto the sideline by everybody
saying what it got hard? So now you're gonna quit,
(30:44):
don't forget. He's also juggled. He's got a kid at
home now, So I mean, that's a lot going on there.
And then the San Francisco forty nine Ers quarterback does
the guy who fits the suit? Are they still a contender?
Is Brock Purdy gonna be that guy? Or we still
Paul Hayman and up prat Hurdy or is he just
become another guy?
Speaker 1 (31:05):
So here's the thing. I don't think it matters who
plays quarterback for the forty nine.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Well, I mean, this is the ultimate right.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
It's not a great division that the Ram the Rams
are hoping to stay relevant, right, they're hoping. The Cardinals
are just I don't even know. Are they tanking? Will
they trade Kyler Murray? You have Gina and the Seahawks? Likely?
Will they take a step back now that the league
has a year of tape on Gino in this offense,
maybe take a little bit of a step back so
it's real and everything is there For the Niners, you're
talking about team that that that that was a hair's
(31:33):
breadth away and maybe a Brock party injury away from
the Super Bowl. I don't know. If Brock Purdy is
not good enough and Sam Darnold comes in, oh, you
just get the ball to Christian McCaffrey, get the ball
to Deebo Samuel in the backfield, throw it short to Kittle.
I mean, they might be a quarterback proof team in
San Francisco. I see your point on it. It is
so prop but but I don't know that whoever you
put in there isn't going to succeed with the forty
(31:54):
nine ers.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Yeah, I think the last is in well, I mean
Belichick and Jones and Trader Bill O'Brien or whatever Trader
as in t R A D E R. Not trader
Bill O'Brien, We got to make sure that we make
that distinction. That's the story. But the AFC North as
(32:14):
a whole is can he pick it any good? You
don't think so, Lamar Jackson? Can he play more than
twelve games? And we'll bunk and make him an MVP candidate.
Odell Beckham Junior? Can he play? How many games does
Joe Burrow miss before it's, you know, time to activate him?
And then, as much as we hate to say it,
we're gonna be paying attention to what the Cleveland Browns
(32:36):
do with Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Well that it depends if they win well, but if
they don't, guess what happens.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
If they don't, their poison pens are out.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Yeah, but look what happened he came back last year.
They weren't any good and we kind of ignored it. Look,
nobody wants to talk about Deshaun Watson. So if they
if they're bad, no, I agree, if they're good, then
that becomes something something that's a little bit different. So well,
wait a minute, now, how do we deal with this? See?
I thought you were gonna go with the possibility that
you talking about the if if the Browns are good. Yes,
if the Packers are good, becomes a really big story.
(33:09):
Or if he's bad, it's if it's an extreme Jordan Love,
that's the number four story. If he's really good and
the Packers are good, Wow, that's a story. If he's
really bad and the Packers stink, boy, that's a story.
But in the middle, if the Packers are winning, okay,
and Jordan Love is playing Okay, yeah, okay, it's what
But it's got to be an extreme Jordan Love for
(33:29):
that conversation. But those two, I'll tell you to be
right behind the top three. If the Packers are good
or really bad or if the Browns are good, yes,
I agree with you on that Packers show, Packers Twitter,
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Speaker 6 (34:10):
Now with what's trending, we will stick in the NFL.
Speaking to Jordan Love, he is expected to play in
some capacity in Green Bay season opener and for the
Browns and Deshaun Watson. He said he will start Cleveland's
second preseason game coming up Friday night. Other quarterback news,
the Buccaneers will star Baker Mayfield this Friday against the Steelers.
(34:31):
Coach Todd Bowles said Kyle Trass the rookie he will
start their second preseason game next week. Commanders coach Ron
Rivera walked back his comments about players being concerned of
Eric Bienemy's coaching style. Rivera said he put his foot
in his mouth and he didn't want to portray his
players as soft or his offensive coordinator as being too demanding.
(34:51):
Free agent running back Kareem Hunt left his visit with
the Colts today without agreeing to a deal. In baseball,
the Phillies Michael Lorenzen threw a no hit and it
comes just eight days after he was traded from the
Tigers to Philly. Fourth no hitter in the big leagues
this season. Phillies beat the Nationals seven to nothing, Astros
Crews passed the Orioles eight to two, and the Rangers
(35:12):
had their eight game winning streak snapped by the A's
two to nothing the final. There, Houston now just two
games back of Texas in the AL West. Cardinals beat
the Rays six to four, so no movement at the
top of the AL East. Blue Jays got a first
inning home run from George Springer and that was enough.
They beat the Guardians one to nothing. Brewers walked off
the Roncky seven to six, and ten innings. Mets over
(35:32):
the Cubs four to three. Pete Alonzo homer and again
that's four in the last three games for him. Marlins
overcame a three run deficit to beat the Reds five
to four, so Milwaukee stretches its lead in the NL
Central to two and a half games. Braves edge the
Pirates six to five, Red Sox over the Royals four
to three, Tigers beat the Twins nine to five. Got
a few games currently going on. White Sox up five
(35:55):
to two on the Yankees and the eighth Giants up
one zip on the Angels in the fourth, no score
but two the Dodgers and Diamondbacks in the fifth, and
a one to one ball game between the Padres and
the Mariners in the fourth. College sports reports say ACC
presidents met tonight to continue discussions on adding Kallen Stanford,
but there remains pushback among the group. They did not
hold a vote. Reports earlier today said Notre Dame is
(36:17):
among those pushing for their addition. ACC needs to have
twelve of the fifteen schools vote yes for it to
be approved. SMU also making a case to the ACC,
saying they wouldn't take any revenue for five to seven years.
About reports say that effort is not heading anywhere either.
Let's head it back to Jason Smith than Mike Harmon.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
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(37:26):
blank show in football. This could have been absolutely avoided
and still dealt with the right way. Of course. I'm
talking about the Northwestern situation with the firing of Pat
Fitzgerald and how they move on from the hazing scandal. Mike,
and I gotta tell you this is it just nothing
Northwestern is done throughout this made sense, right. We saw
(37:47):
that numerous former athletes had stories and charges of bad
hazing incidents. They had None of the current players or
staff was named, but this was something that was very
president in Northwestern athletics for the past few years. And
Pat Fitzgerald being the head coach, of course, is going
to be the guy that gains all the attention for it. Look,
(38:10):
you're the head coach, so he gets fired and the
rest of the coaching staff is allowed to stay, which
wait what wait? Wait? So he has to go, but
the rest of the staff stays. And now you have
this controversy where the school president and the athletic director
pushed back against a T shirt that several football players
were wearing yesterday in practice that supported Pat Fitzgerald, calling
(38:33):
it inappropriate, offensive, and tone deaf. The T shirts the
players are wearing said cats against the World, followed by
fifty one, which is the number fat Pat Fitzgerald wore.
He was player of the Year twice at Northwestern mid
nineteen nineties. He has been synonymous with that school since then,
since you were there. He was a great player. He's
been the head time. I mean, yeah, he's been terrific.
(38:55):
But now you have this crazy scandal that's happened, and
you have a fractured team. And while I get the
whole part of Hey, the players are mad that everybody
hates them, so now they're pushing back. It's us against
the world. I get that. That's what you need to
do in in in the locker room. Hey, everybody hates
let's go out let's band together. I get it. The
(39:15):
T shirt thing is ridiculous. I mean, come on, man,
you're talking about a hazing scandal, right. This is not
coach lost a bunch of games and we didn't win.
He got fired. This is a hazing scandal. That's a
big deal for a lot of people. But what I
don't understand, Mike, is this thing was easily solved for now.
I don't get this. This is a very fast moving story.
And if they were just going to fire Pat Fitzgerald
(39:37):
but keep everybody else, why would you not just say, okay, Pat, sorry,
but you're suspended while we investigate this. And we're gonna
have a full investigation, and it's gonna go for a
long time. Your staff will coach, and then we will
have a resolution at some point. Maybe the resolution is
before the season. Maybe the resolution is during the season.
You can always fire him whenever you need to, and
(40:00):
then after that, after that happens, then you can move
on as a program. Because then you fire Pat Fitzgerald,
these coaches at the end of the season are gonna
look for new gigs because you're gonna hire a new
head coach who's gonna bring in new his new UH
coaching staff with him, and this is how it goes
in college football. But by firing him and keeping everybody else,
now Fitzgerald is suing the school. The players are mad
(40:22):
they lost their coach, but all the other coaches are there,
so it seems like they feel like they've been picking
on Pat Fitzgerald. I mean, this entire thing could have
been avoided had they gone with a little bit more
deliberate staff of Okay, you're suspended, we're gonna look at this,
we're gonna have our things come out, and then we
go forward.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
Yeah, there's a lot to this. I could do another hour,
because we certainly did some of it as it broke.
I happened to be away the day it happened, and
and certainly was getting ready to come back home from
the Midwest. It was in Chicago when fitz Fitzgerald was fired. Look,
this is a few good men. Kendrick still ended up
(41:00):
getting jailed, didn't he follow.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Arrested Kendrick at the end the end.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
Yeah, So even even though Jessup ordered the code read,
the other guys had to pay. So the fact that
the assistant coaches were retained is asinine on a million
levels the lack of leadership. You did an investigation. Okay,
you did an investigation. We'll get to the T shirt
as the show goes on, but just to recap for
(41:26):
those that missed it, because this is now the next
iteration is the you did your investigation, you came up
with the suspension, and then because some of the details
which you were going to squash as a private university
came out through the school newspaper, you went Roger Goodell,
Ray Rice and said oh no, and you reacted to
public pressure and you fired Fitzgerald. There's a lot of
(41:48):
questions with some of the social media accounts of players
who filed lawsuits. It's extended into cheerleading and other sports.
I mean, there's there's a lot more to it. But
the leadership and I use that in quotes at Northwestern
has been an absolute joke through this process and this
is just the latest example.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
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information this hour for the acc the PAC twelve and more.
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tire buying should be. Well, we didn't know we'd have it.
Mike Harmon didn't know we'd open up tonight and go, well,
what's the odd We're gonna have a no hitter tonight. No,
we had a no hitter and Major League Baseball. This
pushes Aaron Rodgers conversation for at least another ten minutes.
We got a no hitter in Major League Baseball and
it was a big, big night. We have a no hitter.
(01:11):
We have your White Sox are winnings, are beating the
Cubs in the ninth inning, so everything is work. We're
helping each other out, so everything's coming up for harmon.
Right now you're beating the Cubs. White Socks are beating
the Yankees, so I'm helping you with your old man.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Yeah, and Fabiano and then Aaron Rodgers had a bad day,
so he's all salty and receivers who might be on
the verge of getting cut or talking out of turn.
Bad job by them, Corey Davis. But we'll get to him.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
This is how it goes. But before we get to
the no hit, I want to say this because obviously
everybody's thoughts and prayers are with Maui on the Big
Island Lehana, the wildfires that have devastated Hawaii over the
course of the past couple of days, and you know,
spending a lot of time today looking at it. We
just were in Leahna, which we were. We that's where
(02:02):
we were over Thanksgiving. We stayed in Lahna. We we
were We went to Front Street where all the all
the markets are. We went to the Banyan tree, which
had stood for hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years
and to read today about how the wildfires have just
like Lehna is gone, like seeing the video all front Street,
all the shops, the the Banyan tree, everything else, just
(02:24):
being gone, a place where we spent our entire vacation,
where we were where everybody spends their vacation. We we
were just there seeing it all and and how vibrant
the streets are and how vibrant, uh, you know, Maui is,
and it was such a an incredible experience in Maui
is such a special place and to see it just
gone is was just incredibly shocking today. And you know,
(02:47):
please have prayers up for Maui. They're gonna need a
lot of our help the big island as well as
they fight the wildfires, which you know right now, there's
no no real cause for it other than it could
be atmosphere conditions of different kinds, and we talk about
climate change and and and that could be what it is.
It doesn't look like there's any bit of nefarious activity.
But just seeing this, I mean, being right there and
(03:09):
just seeing the video that that just this whole area
that was filled with stores up and down the road,
there was this big school there that was that that
was there, and and like I said, the Banyantry had
been there for hundreds and hundreds of years. I got
so many pictures of my daughter and one of her
best friends there, and and to see it all gone,
it just just makes you stop for a second and
think and and and really, you know, hopefully all our
(03:30):
thoughts are with Hawaii in this time today and tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Yeah, it's It's one of those things, is that the
day goes on, right We're constantly on the internet for
stories and and going through the blogs and and getting
back into social media, and just heartbreaking some of the
videos making the rounds news coverage U here in southern
California for those and across the states and the globe.
(03:55):
A bunch of fires breaking out here. I know, it's
been a lot of talk the last couple of weeks
of they're deploying hundreds of goats here here here to
try to help in the prevention. It's just an unfathomable circumstance,
right because once it begins, the amount of resources it
(04:16):
takes to try to not put it out, but just
to stem the tide is so monumental. So just devastating,
heartbreaking images all day long. So I wish and we will,
we'll work to do more than thoughts and prayers are
gonna need a lot of resources and a lot of help.
Governmental agencies already getting involved. All the places that you
(04:38):
donate to each year that give human aid are being
called on already. But it is just a devastating look
and just a reminder, you know that we get so
many times anymore. Jason of you know, be thankful for
what your day has been, because there's so many ways
it can turn.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Well, said that, Jason Smithcher with Mike Harmon and Live
from the tirec dot Com Studers. There's already plays you
can't places you can help. I know, website, CNN others
have put up hey if you need to, if you
can donate here or donate here. Maybe you want to
wait a little bit and see who needs more money
and who needs you know where you want to go
with it. But there's already places out there that you
can find pretty easy to be able to help. Again.
(05:20):
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other things happening in the world. And we'll get to
the Jets because every everything is still fine. It's fine
with the Jets. Everything is fine. It's all done. But
a no hitter in Major League Baseball and just his
second start from the Phillies, Michael Lorenzen seven nothing in
it's the Nationals. This is how it ended.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
The three to two pitch, swinging a high five ball
center field, coming in his row house.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
He's calling he.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Has got it.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Lorenzen leaps into the arms of real New Tone and
the Phillies pile out of the knuckout in front of
the man. They celebrate a no hitter tonight by Michael Lorenzen.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Phillies Radio Network on the call. One hundred and twenty
four pitches, a career high for Michael Lorenzen to get
his no hitter. He did walk four so it's not
like he was very close to a perfect game. But
in just his second start, he goes all the way
through the crowd of thirty thousand as you heard erupting.
It only took two hours and nine minutes. This is
(06:43):
what happens when you pitch a no hitter. And in
today's pace of play, Lorenzo flipping his cap backward after
it was over a great celebration. And you know, this
goes into my philosophy, Mike, about starting pitching. Right, this
is a perfect time to get into starting pitching some
one like Michael Lorenzen, who was just obtained at the
deadline from the Tigers four minor leaguer. Now, Michael Lorenzen
(07:06):
throughout as he look, he's thirty one years old. He
has been an okay starter throughout his career. Right, He's
never been elite. He has been acceptable. He's had some
years whereas where he's had a bunch of starts and
his his ERA is under is under three or four.
He's had some seasons where eh, you know, not so great.
But he was sought after the deadline here uh era
(07:28):
for a really bad Tigers team of three and a half.
So he was sought after the deadline. This proves my philosophy.
What do you think about think about starting pitching. I
kind of think about it like you think about milk, right,
Like you buy milk and you want to make sure
it says it says best if drank by or expires
on this date, right or yeah? Or you buy something
(07:49):
else that says best if used by like you buy
you buy some kind of lunch meet and lunch meat,
and it says best if used by August second, August fourteenth,
whatever it is. Starting pitching. There should be a label
on every starting pitcher that is good, that is desirable,
like this is best if purchased at deadline. That's rich.
(08:10):
Would be like if you're thinking of buying big time
starting pitching in February. No, no, no, no, no. Look at
what does a science sat starting pitching best if purchased
by deadline? Starting pitching is so dicey, Right, It's so
dicey to say, hey, we're gonna build our team around
starting pitching. Right. I've watched my team try to do
that for the last eight years. One year they hit
lightning in a bottle with it in twenty fifteen. Ever since,
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on the starting pitching we have now the Mets, they've
had to jettison everybody, get rid of guys. It's too
much of a dice roll. It's too difficult because too
much can go wrong with starting pitching. With elite starting pitching,
there can be injuries, there could be ineffectiveness, and you
are paying somebody who could have a down year be
unavailable because that's how it goes with pitching. Pitching is
always difficult. You never know when a player is one throwaway,
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one pitch away from sitting on the injured list for
the next month, two months. The Dodgers hold their breath
every time Clayton Kershaw comes out to pitch. He hasn't
pitched in a couple of months. Starting pitching is an
absolute dice roll. The best time to go get starting pitching,
go get it at the deadline. I just want when
I go into the season, I want my team to
have five guys who can give me a quality start.
(09:16):
If you give me a if you give me five
guys or three or four guys that have eras about
four and a half, that are about the league average,
that can go six innings and eat innings, that's what
I want. I don't need to have elite guys because
they don't always pitch a leak, you don't always win.
You can have an elite pitcher. He's not gonna be
twenty and seven every year. Sometimes he's gonna be an
elite pitcher. He's gonna be fifteen and fourteen. Well, that
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didn't work out well, but he was great. Yeah, it
doesn't matter. He lost fourteen games, you lost. He won
one more game than he was able to lose. So
if you go into the season with, hey, we just
have starting pitching. That's gonna give us innings, get us
to our bullpen, and then you are contending, go rent
starting pitching at the deadline. That way, you never have
to worry about getting involved in starting pitching for the
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long term. You never have to worry about injuries. Hey
is this guy. No, this guy, he's healthy. We're gonna
have him for a month and a half or two
months whatever it is man and hopefully the playoffs. Then
we can either sign him or not we can let
them go. That's the best part about getting starting pitching right,
that's where you go get it. That's you go get
the elite guys, the guys that are out there that
can make a difference for you and the Phillies. Going
to get Michael Lorenzen you see what he's done so
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far and the no hitter just as an illustration of that.
Then here was a move to go get a starting
pitcher at the deadline. This is what we wanted to do.
The Dodgers. What did they tried? They try to get
a starting pitcher the deadline, and one of Rodriguezy is
I don't want to go well, what do you mean?
I don't want to go there? But they tried. That's
when you obtain starting pitching. If teams followed that philosophy,
they would be much more successful. Anytime I see a
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team sign a starting pitcher to a two to three
year deal or long termed years. Here's thirty five million
dollars a year, I go, how long is that deal
gonna be good for?
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Right?
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Verlanders deal wasn't even good for half a seat. Well,
but before the Mets said okay, it's sign for ust
to move on.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
But that's the thing, right, here's a rare example. When
we're talking about all right rising stars versus the h
or I should say those mid level starters that are
available all right, he's making a career high of about
eight and a half million this year. This is coming
off a four two, four, eight and six record season
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with the Angels last year. So one of those kind
of scratch your head. But hey, the market for starting
pitching is what it is. You mentioned the Botch deal
with the Dodgers, that one. You just wonder how early,
how late all of the talking points and everything that
needed to be checked off did h and had gone through,
particularly when it comes to the you know, the Tigers
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side of things of you know, and and the agents
of all right, with the no trade clause, what can
we do? Dot dot? But that's all been said and done,
so we move on to here. Right, you're talking about
the guy who doesn't cost you very much for the
stretch run. And let's face it, he wouldn't have gotten
out of the sixth with that pitch count and Dave
Roberts as his manager.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Oh yeah, for him, he might have been pulled in
the third inning, I don't know, sixth inning. That you're
being generous right there.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Yeah, so good for him, uh seven seven nothing the
opportunity even if he'd given up the hit to rest
your bullpen For me, it hearkens back to a game
I pitched as a in little league. I threw a
no hitter and I had four walks, And you know why,
because I took the two best hitters and just said,
the rest of these guys can't touch me. You can
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just go stand on first base.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
I thought you were gonna say, and why did I
walk those guys because my best friend's dad was the
umpire and he didn't like me because I did something
the week before.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Legitimately, it was you guys want to chase a little bit,
I'll let's chase, but I'm not giving you anything to hit.
And so like they're cursing at me as they're walking
down to first base, like you see who's batting behind you,
Like it was about as disrespectful as I've ever been
on a field, Like the rest of these guys ain't
touching it, So let's go.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Do I need to throw these pitches because in the
future we won't have to throw them. I could just
point down to first pace.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Well, I mean, I debated plunk in one of the
guys just on principle, you know, but I did.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Wait, you actually had to because I'm trying to think
back Now, I remember a couple of times we'd had
intentional walks in the Little League when I was and
we didn't have to throw the pitches.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Oh I I I was like, all right, I'm not
giving you anything over the plate. Oh oh you want
to swing?
Speaker 1 (13:22):
You just threw an unintentional, intentional walk.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Yeah, so all right, if you want to go reach
on something two feet off the plate and dribble it
back to the mound, so I can come and slap
tag you. Uh, I'm happy to do it, but I'm
not giving you anything, uh in your wheelhouse. But yeah,
it's it's cool to get another no hitter, right, I mean,
we love history. I mean I've heard some lamentation, uh
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in the social media, like ah, now this guy has
got a no hitter. It's like it happens. It's like
it's a rare circumstance. It's still what fewer than three
hundred and fifty in the history of Major League Baseball,
And that's that's a rare occurrence. And yes, maybe we
get a couple in rapid successions, so it seems like
they're more common, but they're not.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
They're not.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
It's still a very difficult proposition and you know, we
got to celebrate those big days when they come through,
Especially for a guy like Lorenzen. You get to prof
for your theory on going and getting starting pitching. At
least for one turn in the rotation, it worked.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Yeah. Look and well, well look he's won both games.
Since the Phillies have got him, they have vaulted themselves
up even deeper into the postseason conversation. Look, you're talking
about last year's defending nationally champions, who who did exactly
what you need to do. Hey, we don't need to
go crazy to win the NL East. Right. We watch
teams go crazy to win their divisions, and all it
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guarantees them is that, Okay, you don't have to play
in that first round and that first little round. But
that's the way it goes. It's same thing with the NBA.
Oh we want to win, we want to be a
top seed, so we have to play in the playing round.
It turns out the playing round it's not that big
a deal anymore. So the Phillies had done it exactly right. Look,
we don't need to go crazy, you know. If we
need starting, look, we'll spend all our money on Trey
Turner and oh boy, did that turn out to be
(15:01):
a mistake.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
You're chasing it, but you're chasing the braves, and you
recognize what what a fool's errand that would be to
try to get into a spending yes pace, just see
where you're at and then be judicious.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Yeah, and that what did they do? They went and
they bought their starting picture of the deadline. And look
where they are. And the Phillies are just fine now
and everything is happy there. Look the Trey Turner, who
stinks is getting standing ovations in Philadelphia. And Bryce Harper
is saying, I wish I played my whole career here,
And I'm like, this is Philadelphia and everybody loves the city.
They're all the faith. What is happening? This is what
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happens when you do things right. I gotta say when
the Phillies are doing when you do things right, you
do things right. They're doing things right.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
But it's a new world order. It's a topsy turvy
world man, cats and dogs.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
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Speaker 1 (18:28):
You know we're going to talk about the bad day
that Jets had it practice and this is what you
get the song you get me, Well, yeh, what do
you want me to curse on the air? What's wrong
with you? What are you doing?
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Alex? You want to answer that he's asking if you
want him to curse on air? I mean I can
dump twice, So go for it.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
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Before we get into the day that was for the Jets,
let me just say this. We're gonna get into it.
There's a lot more college football, a lot of stuff
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happening right now, late breaking news coming in that callen
Stanford to the ACC have hit quote a significant roadblock. Apparently,
according to Pete Famil ESPN, there's always been long odds
the school would actually join the conference because there wasn't
a significant value. Add well, yeah, unless you want your
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GPA of the conference to go up. Yeah, that's why
you call callen Stanford, especially Stanford. It's not look callus.
Everybody is just trying to get a seat at the
table now and they're calling wherever we'll have them right.
And this is like I remember when I was a senior.
When I was a senior, I was going to my
senior prom and there are a lot of people that
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we were friends with in the junior class or junior class,
and senior class was kind of close. And it got
to a point where when the prom was coming up,
if there were if you were a senior and you
weren't day anybody, there were a lot of juniors who
would just come up to you would brazenly and say, listen,
I don't know if you're going everybody to the prom,
but I really want to go. We're kind of all friends.
I'll go with you. We'd like to go together. And
(20:10):
I saw guys and girls going to the problem, like
you're going to the pal You guys are You should
have asked me what's going on here right because Hey,
they wanted to go to the prom. That's what's going
on here with college football. Everybody wants to go to
the prom. No one wants to be left behind. No
one wants to sit home alone listening to music on
Friday night. Will everybody else is out having fun and
you're in the room with your mom and you're just
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being surly to her because you're not at the problem
and everybody else's That's what's going on right now. Everybody
wants to go to the prom, and everybody wants to
go to the dance, and not everybody can. And a
school like cal and Stanford, Yeah, instead of waiting till
the end here, you gotta be more proactive. You can't
just sit around and hope things are gonna happen for you.
Any any school, Washington State, Oregon State. You gotta figure
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something out and be more proactive. That's why we sit
where we are right now. It's why these stories take
a lot of us by surprise. The sec taken by
surprise with all that's going out with a big ten
and big twelve because everybody else is working on it.
We want to go, We want to do this. You
gotta be proactive. You can't just sit back around. Otherwise
you'renna be sitting around going, uh boy, there's no one
to take us to the dance. There's no one to
take us to the prom. And I really want to
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go to the problem and I want to dance. I
want it to be like the end of Pretty and Pink,
when all the confetti comes down and they play orchestral
maneuvers in the dark. If you leave and it's such
a great time and everybody's looking at KidSing, that's what
I want. You gotta go get it. If it's what
you want, you can't sit back and wait.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Well, and it's something you know, Shan I were talking
about before the show. As you get into all this
fun college stuff is you know, Brian Kelly had the
probably the best point of all it made. It's like,
all right, Notre Dame always for football has been independent, right,
stay independent. Everything else is in the acc Like maybe
that's the answer to all this. Right, Stanford and Gal
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are not desirable football programs, but they are academically and
they are for everything else that is in football and
basketball sometimes but aball team.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Mark Mason's gonna kick your ass. Man, I'll tell he
will kick your ass.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
I celebrate the Yeah, you're going back to two thousand
and one, two thousand and five.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
To all those teams, all those years ago, exactly, they'll kick.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Your no question, one after another. They'll just line up
veritable congo line to beat me down.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
But Kyle Bowler will kick your an.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Now we're going all the way back to two thousand
and three. We could do this all day, but yeah,
it's it's the idea that you've got to be proactive.
And I think to some degree this is just another example,
particularly when we're talking Callan Stanford, of how everybody was
passive thought it would all work out because well, we're
the PAC twelve, the Conference of Champions again, champions and
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so many other things. But the sports, right, I mean,
look basketball obviously for u U c l A and
its history and USC occasionally can we celebrate old miner
a little bit, I don't know, But we go through
the process and it's the type of you know, roll
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through of all right, what do they add Friday, they
were supposed to all sign a deal, right, and then
it didn't happen all right, ten minutes before Okay, these
guys are out and everything crumbles thereafter. So my guess
is you had a lot of chatter and somehow they
didn't get the memo that the meeting was that day.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Oh oh, we didn't.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
We didn't get it.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
We didn't know.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
We thought it was coming, but we didn't get the
memo that it was Friday morning. That suddenly everybody was
going to torpedo at the conference. And now they're left
holding the bag and trying to figure out where they
fit in. And geography doesn't matter in this, and that's
the part that people keep getting hung up on. It's like, oh,
the the geography is it's once you're on a plane.
(23:58):
If two hours and three hours, how much different are
we talking and you're setting up shop for all the
other non football sports, right, We've seen it. We've seen
the schedules where teams in the Midwest or in the
East are playing down in Florida, they're playing on the
West coast for the first month of their season. Guess
what you can zoom it zoom force people back to
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their offices. That's where we're at in the process. Jason,
you can zoom into your classes. Is that ideal?
Speaker 1 (24:27):
No?
Speaker 3 (24:28):
But technology and stuff is our guy. Rick Wilde would
tell you what allows you to get stuff done? Is it? Again,
it's not always going to be fluid. Sacrifices are made,
just like you do with your schedule, just to be
a student athlete to begin with. But so many of
these presidents, I mean to go back to my alma
mater and the disaster they've got on their hands, and
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you realize once again the old truism. Just because you're
in charge with a big title, or you've got the
most money and you're making the most money at any
corporate or whatever else, doesn't mean you know what the
hell you're doing.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Oh, we'll get to your alma mater in a few minutes.
We'll get to your alma mater coming up in a
few minutes after today. We have to get to them.
We have to. But we also have Pete Futech coming
up there from college. I think, yeah, I'm calling it
Peter Palooza because he was on with us the whole
time he was at Lolla Pelle. So we call it
pet palooza.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
I think he had glow sticks, uh chained around his
neck and the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
So we have a lot of college football coming up.
But remember, don't be the last person at the dead.
Do you want to be what looks like o MD
and if you leave and pretty? Uh? But today was
not a great day for the Jets. Yes, last night
was a great night. I watched Hard Knocks three times.
It was awesome. Oh yeah, it was so good. Are
you kidding?
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Did you go out and buy a bunch of uncrustables
to show your support of Zach Wilson.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
No, I just want I just loved watching the open
of Rogers walking out going I'll give you guys some
good blank today and you slowly just hear the roar
of the crowd as he goes out there for his
first practice. As he's walking close, I'm going, We're going
to the super Bowl, man, We're going to the super Bowl.
This is so great, this is I can't believe it.
And every pass is terrific.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
And not all of them, not all of them.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Well, it's okay.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Those battles of Sauce and Wilson, I mean Sauce going
time and time again.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
That's okay because you're talking about the best cornerback in
the NFL and he's on our team, so I don't
really care about that. That's good for us.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
I think Aaron Rodgers is leaning more into the hype
of Sauce between their handshake and all the uh, the
the chain and everything else than than any team maybe
he's ever had.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Oh yeah, well, so come on when someone gives you
a rhinestone pendant at practice, Hey, thanks for coming. Now
you're gonna be my guy. Hey, you're by how you
gave me that? That's worth a lot of money.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Man, And thank you for being a friend.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
But a different day for the Jets today, Like we'll
get into the hole, uh going on with hard knocks
and the big takeaways from last night. But a different
day today as the Jets had a rough joint practice
with the Carolina Panthers, highlighted by Aaron rodgers visible frustration
when they went three and out in their two minute drill,
which was shocking and doesn't happen at the end of
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a joint practice. Bryce Young is able to drive the
Panthers down the field for a field goal against the
jets number one defense, right now. This is one day
of practice, but this is a big headline because it's
Aaron Rodgers. Right. It's one day. Yes, the Jets get
the better the day today, No, but it's not a game.
It's still the early part of August. We're a month away.
There's gonna be growing pains. I get that Aaron Rodgers
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is frustrated. You gotta start picking things up. There's a
lot of time to get everything done. But this goes
to show you and I can give you a bold
prediction right now. I already know what the three biggest
stories of the year are gonna be in the NFL.
And by that I mean stories we are going to
talk about every Monday, maybe Monday and Tuesday, and every
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Friday going into the weekend. I already and there's a
wild card fourth one, but I'd already know the three
story that are gonna be big. Every Monday and Tuesday,
we're gonna talk about these three stories and every Friday
going to the weekend. You're ready, let's go all right?
Number one obviously is Rogers and the Jets. I mean
you could see already. Are there any reports on hey,
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how the number one offense with with the with the
Giants did today or the number one offense with the Rams,
how they did and their No, Rogers and the Jets
have owned the storyline and he's got that factor for
this season.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
Well, the Giants were the big story yesterday and the
disaster for Daniel Jones, and I think he kind of
repeated a little bit today. Yeah, I think he kind
of gets buried because now it's a commonplace every everything.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
It's behind Rogers, right, it's the But it's not nearly
gonna be Aaron Rodgers. We're not gonna talk about Daniel
Jones every Monday. We're going to talk about Rogers and
the Jets every Monday, likely on Tuesday, every Friday going
into the week.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
So I don't have a choice. No, you do, even
if it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
How is it doesn't matter you you really think there's
a bigger story in the NFL this season than Rogers
and the Jets. Tell me what the bigger story?
Speaker 3 (29:02):
The logo?
Speaker 1 (29:04):
No, it's not because half your fans hate the new
logo you're going to they can't. I actually like that.
You're gonna go to the bear like the bear is
a door. We get the little bear there, but Rogers
and the Jets will be number one. Number two will
be the Broncos and Sean Payton and Russell Wilson that
is number two. What's going on this year? Sean Payton,
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the genius. Russell Wilson, just like Aaron Rodgers last couple
of years, has stirred the drink as far as quarterbacks go.
How was this week good? Was this bad as Russell
Wilson washed? Is he really good? Denver's a high profile team.
Peyton comes in as a high profile coach who's unafraid
to put his opinions out there. We see what he's
done this offseason already with Oh, I don't like hard knocks,
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and I don't like the other coaches that were here
last year. Number two Denver and Sean Payton. Number three
Dak Prescott and the Cowboys. No matter, that's no matter
how Dallas does every week. Either it's either great for
Dallas but they still or they're gonna suck and they
suck even more than you think. That's how we talk
about the Cowboys. Hey they're three and oh but they
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still suck. No wait, wit they're eight, No, but they
still suck. Or they're four and four no, they suck
worse than you think. Those three stories every Monday, every Tuesday,
every Friday, without fail, those are the three biggest stories
in the NFL that will be on rinse, repeat for
the next four and a half months.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
It's pretty good. It's a pretty good list you've got
going on there. I think I will add because of
where we are geographically located. And the boy wonder part
of it all is what Sean McVeigh do after nearly
quitting and being bullied back onto the sideline by everybody
saying what it got hard? So now you're gonna quit,
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don't forget. He's also juggled. He's got a kid at
home now, So I mean, that's a lot going on there.
And then the San Francisco forty nine Ers quarterback does
the guy who fits the suit? Are they still a contender?
Is Brock Purdy gonna be that guy? Or we still
Paul Hayman and up prat Hurdy or is he just
become another guy?
Speaker 1 (31:05):
So here's the thing. I don't think it matters who
plays quarterback for the forty nine.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Well, I mean, this is the ultimate right.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
It's not a great division that the Ram the Rams
are hoping to stay relevant, right, they're hoping. The Cardinals
are just I don't even know. Are they tanking? Will
they trade Kyler Murray? You have Gina and the Seahawks? Likely?
Will they take a step back now that the league
has a year of tape on Gino in this offense,
maybe take a little bit of a step back so
it's real and everything is there For the Niners, you're
talking about team that that that that was a hair's
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breadth away and maybe a Brock party injury away from
the Super Bowl. I don't know. If Brock Purdy is
not good enough and Sam Darnold comes in, oh, you
just get the ball to Christian McCaffrey, get the ball
to Deebo Samuel in the backfield, throw it short to Kittle.
I mean, they might be a quarterback proof team in
San Francisco. I see your point on it. It is
so prop but but I don't know that whoever you
put in there isn't going to succeed with the forty
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nine ers.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Yeah, I think the last is in well, I mean
Belichick and Jones and Trader Bill O'Brien or whatever Trader
as in t R A D E R. Not trader
Bill O'Brien, We got to make sure that we make
that distinction. That's the story. But the AFC North as
(32:14):
a whole is can he pick it any good? You
don't think so, Lamar Jackson? Can he play more than
twelve games? And we'll bunk and make him an MVP candidate.
Odell Beckham Junior? Can he play? How many games does
Joe Burrow miss before it's, you know, time to activate him?
And then, as much as we hate to say it,
we're gonna be paying attention to what the Cleveland Browns
(32:36):
do with Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Well that it depends if they win well, but if
they don't, guess what happens.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
If they don't, their poison pens are out.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Yeah, but look what happened he came back last year.
They weren't any good and we kind of ignored it. Look,
nobody wants to talk about Deshaun Watson. So if they
if they're bad, no, I agree, if they're good, then
that becomes something something that's a little bit different. So well,
wait a minute, now, how do we deal with this? See?
I thought you were gonna go with the possibility that
you talking about the if if the Browns are good. Yes,
if the Packers are good, becomes a really big story.
(33:09):
Or if he's bad, it's if it's an extreme Jordan Love,
that's the number four story. If he's really good and
the Packers are good, Wow, that's a story. If he's
really bad and the Packers stink, boy, that's a story.
But in the middle, if the Packers are winning, okay,
and Jordan Love is playing Okay, yeah, okay, it's what
But it's got to be an extreme Jordan Love for
(33:29):
that conversation. But those two, I'll tell you to be
right behind the top three. If the Packers are good
or really bad or if the Browns are good, yes,
I agree with you on that Packers show, Packers Twitter,
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Speaker 6 (34:10):
Now with what's trending, we will stick in the NFL.
Speaking to Jordan Love, he is expected to play in
some capacity in Green Bay season opener and for the
Browns and Deshaun Watson. He said he will start Cleveland's
second preseason game coming up Friday night. Other quarterback news,
the Buccaneers will star Baker Mayfield this Friday against the Steelers.
(34:31):
Coach Todd Bowles said Kyle Trass the rookie he will
start their second preseason game next week. Commanders coach Ron
Rivera walked back his comments about players being concerned of
Eric Bienemy's coaching style. Rivera said he put his foot
in his mouth and he didn't want to portray his
players as soft or his offensive coordinator as being too demanding.
(34:51):
Free agent running back Kareem Hunt left his visit with
the Colts today without agreeing to a deal. In baseball,
the Phillies Michael Lorenzen threw a no hit and it
comes just eight days after he was traded from the
Tigers to Philly. Fourth no hitter in the big leagues
this season. Phillies beat the Nationals seven to nothing, Astros
Crews passed the Orioles eight to two, and the Rangers
(35:12):
had their eight game winning streak snapped by the A's
two to nothing the final. There, Houston now just two
games back of Texas in the AL West. Cardinals beat
the Rays six to four, so no movement at the
top of the AL East. Blue Jays got a first
inning home run from George Springer and that was enough.
They beat the Guardians one to nothing. Brewers walked off
the Roncky seven to six, and ten innings. Mets over
(35:32):
the Cubs four to three. Pete Alonzo homer and again
that's four in the last three games for him. Marlins
overcame a three run deficit to beat the Reds five
to four, so Milwaukee stretches its lead in the NL
Central to two and a half games. Braves edge the
Pirates six to five, Red Sox over the Royals four
to three, Tigers beat the Twins nine to five. Got
a few games currently going on. White Sox up five
(35:55):
to two on the Yankees and the eighth Giants up
one zip on the Angels in the fourth, no score
but two the Dodgers and Diamondbacks in the fifth, and
a one to one ball game between the Padres and
the Mariners in the fourth. College sports reports say ACC
presidents met tonight to continue discussions on adding Kallen Stanford,
but there remains pushback among the group. They did not
hold a vote. Reports earlier today said Notre Dame is
(36:17):
among those pushing for their addition. ACC needs to have
twelve of the fifteen schools vote yes for it to
be approved. SMU also making a case to the ACC,
saying they wouldn't take any revenue for five to seven years.
About reports say that effort is not heading anywhere either.
Let's head it back to Jason Smith than Mike Harmon.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Thanks a bunch, Nick, appreciate it, my friend. The Jason
Smith Show with Mike Carbon live from thetiraq dot com studios.
We got more football on the way where we have
to get into the biggest blank show in football of
the last couple of weeks. Keep it right here, Jason
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com slash match. We're gonna talk about something now that
was completely avoidable and this blank show. That's the biggest
(37:26):
blank show in football. This could have been absolutely avoided
and still dealt with the right way. Of course. I'm
talking about the Northwestern situation with the firing of Pat
Fitzgerald and how they move on from the hazing scandal. Mike,
and I gotta tell you this is it just nothing
Northwestern is done throughout this made sense, right. We saw
(37:47):
that numerous former athletes had stories and charges of bad
hazing incidents. They had None of the current players or
staff was named, but this was something that was very
president in Northwestern athletics for the past few years. And
Pat Fitzgerald being the head coach, of course, is going
to be the guy that gains all the attention for it. Look,
(38:10):
you're the head coach, so he gets fired and the
rest of the coaching staff is allowed to stay, which
wait what wait? Wait? So he has to go, but
the rest of the staff stays. And now you have
this controversy where the school president and the athletic director
pushed back against a T shirt that several football players
were wearing yesterday in practice that supported Pat Fitzgerald, calling
(38:33):
it inappropriate, offensive, and tone deaf. The T shirts the
players are wearing said cats against the World, followed by
fifty one, which is the number fat Pat Fitzgerald wore.
He was player of the Year twice at Northwestern mid
nineteen nineties. He has been synonymous with that school since then,
since you were there. He was a great player. He's
been the head time. I mean, yeah, he's been terrific.
(38:55):
But now you have this crazy scandal that's happened, and
you have a fractured team. And while I get the
whole part of Hey, the players are mad that everybody
hates them, so now they're pushing back. It's us against
the world. I get that. That's what you need to
do in in in the locker room. Hey, everybody hates
let's go out let's band together. I get it. The
(39:15):
T shirt thing is ridiculous. I mean, come on, man,
you're talking about a hazing scandal, right. This is not
coach lost a bunch of games and we didn't win.
He got fired. This is a hazing scandal. That's a
big deal for a lot of people. But what I
don't understand, Mike, is this thing was easily solved for now.
I don't get this. This is a very fast moving story.
And if they were just going to fire Pat Fitzgerald
(39:37):
but keep everybody else, why would you not just say, okay, Pat, sorry,
but you're suspended while we investigate this. And we're gonna
have a full investigation, and it's gonna go for a
long time. Your staff will coach, and then we will
have a resolution at some point. Maybe the resolution is
before the season. Maybe the resolution is during the season.
You can always fire him whenever you need to, and
(40:00):
then after that, after that happens, then you can move
on as a program. Because then you fire Pat Fitzgerald,
these coaches at the end of the season are gonna
look for new gigs because you're gonna hire a new
head coach who's gonna bring in new his new UH
coaching staff with him, and this is how it goes
in college football. But by firing him and keeping everybody else,
now Fitzgerald is suing the school. The players are mad
(40:22):
they lost their coach, but all the other coaches are there,
so it seems like they feel like they've been picking
on Pat Fitzgerald. I mean, this entire thing could have
been avoided had they gone with a little bit more
deliberate staff of Okay, you're suspended, we're gonna look at this,
we're gonna have our things come out, and then we
go forward.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
Yeah, there's a lot to this. I could do another hour,
because we certainly did some of it as it broke.
I happened to be away the day it happened, and
and certainly was getting ready to come back home from
the Midwest. It was in Chicago when fitz Fitzgerald was fired. Look,
this is a few good men. Kendrick still ended up
(41:00):
getting jailed, didn't he follow.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Arrested Kendrick at the end the end.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
Yeah, So even even though Jessup ordered the code read,
the other guys had to pay. So the fact that
the assistant coaches were retained is asinine on a million
levels the lack of leadership. You did an investigation. Okay,
you did an investigation. We'll get to the T shirt
as the show goes on, but just to recap for
(41:26):
those that missed it, because this is now the next
iteration is the you did your investigation, you came up
with the suspension, and then because some of the details
which you were going to squash as a private university
came out through the school newspaper, you went Roger Goodell,
Ray Rice and said oh no, and you reacted to
public pressure and you fired Fitzgerald. There's a lot of
(41:48):
questions with some of the social media accounts of players
who filed lawsuits. It's extended into cheerleading and other sports.
I mean, there's there's a lot more to it. But
the leadership and I use that in quotes at Northwestern
has been an absolute joke through this process and this
is just the latest example.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
We'll if more on this story and more of the
late breaking developments and conference realignment. Yes, we have new
information this hour for the acc the PAC twelve and more.
Keep it right here, Jason and Mike. This is Fox
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