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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
This is the best of the Jason Smith Show with
Mike Harmon on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Oh that is us. Good evening, everybody, Happy fourth of July.
Aaron Torres, Arnie Spanier in for the guys, Jason Smith
and his best friend Mike Harmon right here on Fox
Sports Radio. We are live at the Fox Sports Radio studios.
(00:50):
Let me welcome my co host did and his anniversary
today won the only Aaron Torres. How you doing today? Torres?
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Busy week of anniversaries for me.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Look at you? Wow?
Speaker 5 (01:03):
Tonight is Let's do some quick mental math here. It
is my eighth anniversary of Fox Sports Radio. It's my
one versus year eight year, July fourth, twenty seventeen.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
And I bet the under eight days. Wow.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Can you believe that good thing that you have no
say with the boss at all.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
Yeah, I was supposed to go to Summer League for
Lonzo Ball's debut and Scotch Shapiro care old. Yes, Scott
Shapiro called me in and said, would you like to
do a show with Mike Harmon?
Speaker 4 (01:37):
So I sat in for Jason Smith.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
The hot topic that night was Gordon Hayward going to
the Celtics.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Baby, when did you get promoted and start working with me?
Was that?
Speaker 5 (01:48):
It was like February of twenty eighteen. By the way,
by the way, what's that demotion? Yeah, that was more
of a demotion. Also, tomorrow's my wedding anniversary. But nobody
cares about that.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Which is a big your anniversary? Your Fox Sports or
your wedding anniversary?
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Yeah, you know, it depends on the day.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yeah. So Gordon, you've been married, Well, you've been married.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
July fifth, twenty nineteen, and I've told that story many
times ex years. Yeah, six years. So that was the night.
Two things happened. Zion made his Summer League debut that day, right,
there was an earthquake in the middle of the game.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Nothing to do with Zion, hold your jokes.
Speaker 6 (02:27):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
He did leave the game with a knee injury though
that was probably a pretty good sign that he wasn't
long for for the NBA. And then also right in
the middle of you know, the reception, it was, you know,
it was past the ceremony, everybody was out on the
dance floor. Kawhi Leonard signed with Clippers, right and.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Paul George got traded to the Clippers.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
I think I was on the air for you that night.
Speaker 6 (02:52):
You might have.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
It was a Friday night.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
I know you could have been in, but it was,
you know, it was crazy because it's easy to forget
this in hindsight, but you know, it was Kawhi is
either going to be a Laker or a Clipper, and
it just kept dragging on and on and on and
on and on and so it kind of felt like
that was the day where something was going to happen.
But also there was no one in the world that
(03:15):
thought Paul George was available in a trade. Now it's
easy in hindsight to be like, oh, okay, that was
a big thing in the body.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Yeah, they got Kawhi and Paul George. So I'm sure
I've told you.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
But there are pictures from the wedding reception of myself
and a couple other guys just literally staring at a
phone trying to get all the details because it's like, Okay,
Kawhi is a clipper?
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Where did this Paul George thing come from? So I
want to tell you lots of tweets. I usually wouldn't
get to Twitter right away. They don't want to know
who was the best co host you ever worked with?
That's too easy, Aaron, who was the best looking co
host you ever work with? I'm sure he's probably from Arizona,
University of Arizona and lives in Vermont. You want to
(03:59):
answer that one.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
Aaron, you want to It sounds like a major HR
violation coming. So I will say all of my coworkers
are are equally good looking.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
So we we went ahead and we worked together. How
many years now? Seven years ago? Is that when we
first started working together?
Speaker 5 (04:15):
So we started in I think it was February twenty
eighteen actually, and Disagre will appreciate this.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Yeah, one of the.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
First shifts we ever did, Arizona with the Packed won
the Pac twelve championship. I think it was the last
time Arizona won a game while you were on air.
Probably it was ironically. Yeah, it was DeAndre Ayton, of
all people there who was the leader of that team.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
So geez, I can't believe you don't have any old
tapes or anything of your first show. I used to say,
I just do away. I'm not kidding around like a
week ago shows from like like forty years ago. That's
how crazy. I mean. It was like on a reel
and stuff and CHRISTI I don't need it anymore. I'm
just tossing everything, VHS taped, everything went out. I can't
(05:00):
believe he didn't keep any of your first shows.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
You know, well, I mean you did ask Ian less
than ninety seconds before he went on air to find
tape of us doing our first show together. So that
not today, but on Sunday when we threw it together.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Right, Well, of course they didn't even look. I'm sure
they didn't bother to walk.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
I'm sure he did look more than night I looked.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
I looked whoa, whoa whoa.
Speaker 7 (05:20):
Arnie called me last week, like I think it was
like Friday last week.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
He calls me.
Speaker 7 (05:24):
He's like, all right, we need we need to do this.
We need to find some some footage of Erentitarid's And
I was like, all right, I'll look for it. I'll
see I'll see what I do it eight years ago.
All right, first off, eight years ago. So I started looking.
I look on YouTube. I go back to his Twitter.
I scroll all the way eight years looking for a
tweet saying, oh, maybe like maybe like a live time.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
I went to the podcast.
Speaker 7 (05:44):
Oh I spent I spent a good maybe like forty
five maybe to an hour looking for this thing. Good
for you of my young young twenties, mid mid twenties
weekday life.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
You know. So I just want to say I tried
one whole.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
Hour to r well, I'll tell you what I know.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
I bet you a listener could find that fifteen minutes
and somebody that's sitting in the amazement of their mom's
house they want to use a computer.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
I will say two things.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
One I did say this on air the other night,
is that if people can find Arnie on the Newlywed game,
yes and put it on YouTube, that has to be somewhere.
But if we don't have any anything in the archives,
that's kind of disappointing.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
I'll tell you why. One time I filled in with
Andy Furman.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
And he booked Bill Belichick for US, so I remember
that I and lives by that.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
He tells everyone that, by the.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Way, yeah, it was.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
It was like the only national interview that Bill Belichick
did his entire time with the Patriots, Like he just
didn't do anything other than mandatory media availability, but shout out.
Andy Furman was tight with him, and it was like
the day after Christmas. I'm driving around and Lee de
Lapp was producing at the time, and he's like, oh.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Yeah, Torris, we're gonna lead with this this.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
Oh we might have Bill Belichick in hour two and
I'm like, oh, okay, cool, we gotta get Lebron.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
At our three and uh, you know Brady an hour four.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
He's like, no, we're seriously might get Bill Belichick, and
sure enough we got Belichick.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
So I remember that. I listened to that, So that
was that was awesome. I remember him able to pull
that off.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
So great interview.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
But uh, happy anniversary for your wedding and for your
time here at Fox Sports. So I want to throw
that out there.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
Yes, both are equally important to me. Scott Shapiro, if
you're listening.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
To believe me, you know we I've been getting tweets
people wanting to take phone calls.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Dude, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Look, there's a couple of reasons. One, I don't know
if I can trust Mary to pot up the phone calls.
I don't know if I could trust Shake to answer
the phone. And I'm just getting and I don't know
if I could trust you Aarons actually introduced the calls
and do that right properly either, So I mean that's
kind of your job.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
But it's okay, no, yeah, but I'm not in this driving.
I thought you were driving.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
I'm driving, God forbid. I mean you're still learning how
to drive.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Driving Miss Daisy over here is what driving?
Speaker 3 (08:07):
It's remember that so you.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Drove horse and carriage.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
But yeah, you're old Arnie, Arnie, real quick, this is
an important day.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
July fourth? What was the first July fourth?
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Like? I hate you, man, I mean I hate you.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
I mean it's you know, I mean it must have
been special, like it was good and we all get
to wear those great hats. You and bet Frank are
just sitting around. Oh he was, I mean he he
did have a ponytail at one time.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
So I did fit right in I absolutely fit right.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Do you still have the white wig?
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Of course? I mean what did you think I was
gonna throw that out? Of course I have to have
the white wig. Still got that. I put it on
from time to time.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
It's all moldy and stuff.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
No, we keep it clean, all right, We look, we
got a lot to get to. It's it's fourth of July.
Happy fourth of July. Everybody will have a little fun.
Will keep you busy, keep your company on this holiday.
Of course, it feels I don't know if it feels
like a Sunday, a Wednesday. I don't even know what
day it is. To be honest with you, Aaron, it's
kind of crazy. It certainly doesn't feel like a Friday.
(09:14):
But we'll keep you busy, and we do have a
lot of topics to get to. It is a busy show.
You want to be part of the show. Real simple,
Twitter is the best way, Aaron underscore Torres, I'm its
thinking genius one. I don't know. We could try to
take calls. A little nervous about that. I used to
be the king of calls. I know you say. Rob
Parker and Kelvin Washington say that the king of calls. Aaron.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
I have never personally said that, but well someone said
they What was it Shay that told me that?
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Did you say that? Did our producers say that? So? Yeah, yeah, okay,
Well I used to take calls. I used to take
like over sixty in an hour.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
How about that sounds made up sixteen.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
So you didn't say a word, they would get like
a quick thirty seconds in. I'd hang up and then
I'd give a quick answer and I would just churn
him out. The boss just wanted as many phone calls
as possible, and I would just boom boom boom, boom,
boom boom, just spin him out. We didn't we didn't
have as many commercials as we do now, and certainly
(10:13):
not two updates. But yeah, I'm not kidding around. The
Sega could vouch for me. I've known the Sega for
over one hundred years, so he was good friends with
Ben Franklin. I'll tell you all about it, all right.
If you want to get in, we could maybe try
to take calls eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox
eighty seven seven nine nine six six streets sixty nine.
Did you watch the Nathan's Hot dogg I'm always into
(10:35):
it to see if anything goes crazy. It was great
to see Joey Chestnut back. I think he got the
seventy one hot dogs. It was right there on seventy
and a half to seventy one. I think seventy one
was the final number. He looked great, blew away the field.
I think he won by about twenty four because if
you wanted to bet over twenty five Aaron, you could
have gotten like fifteen to one odds on that. But
(10:55):
he dominated the field. Felt like old times having Joey
Chestnut back in.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
This, you know, I like how you say it was
good to have him back, like he was out with
an ankle injury.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Not tyres alipurt. Okay, yeah, I'll be honest.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
So, and this is caught using PD suspend it something, No,
all right, kidd it, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
This is the most anti July fourth thing ever. But
I've said this on air. I find the hot dog
eating contest repulsing. Oh and I can't watch it. It's
just when they start sticking the buns in the water
and then you got wet bread dribbling down your face.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
It's just it makes me nauseous.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
To be perfectly honest, And they don't chew the food,
I mean, yeah, they don't. They just go ahead and swallow.
It's a lot of swallowing. You don't like to watch
any of it. You just too repulsed by the whole thing. Yeah,
what happens if you had to cover the thing? You know,
like like it was an NFL game, We're going down
to Coney Island to cover this thing.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
If if Fox Sports Radio sent me to the hot
dog eating I would be a professional.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
You know.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
It's like, you know, listen but uh but yeah, no,
it doesn't really do anything for me. Let's I'll say this,
Joe Chestnutt is insane, like you know, independent of how
much I watch, or how much I enjoy or how
much I don't enjoy. Like, I know this sounds like
I'm kind of being sarcastic, but I'm actually not. Like
the amount of years that he has been able. He's
(12:18):
forty one years old, Okay, Like you said, close to
seventy one hot dogs. He fell just short of his
twenty twenty one record seventeen wins, Arnie, this guy's got
a longer prime than Tom Brady. Like, I'm sorry, Gez, No,
it's just like I don't know, I don't have you
ever watched stuff on him, because he really does quote
(12:39):
unquote train like he does neck exercises, and he works out,
and he does all sorts of weird stuff, and like,
I give him credit, he's clearly the best that's ever
done it.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
And but you know, I wanted to give you a
little bit. I don't know if I sent this to
you earlier. The hot dog thing is just one of
tons of records. He has one hundred and eighty two
large chicken wings in thirty minutes, one hundred and twenty
one twinkies in six minutes. That that's pretty good. I
(13:10):
think I've got twenty one in six minutes. I think
I've come close to that. Yeah, I think obviously. I
have one hundred and sixty five parogi's in eight minutes.
That's a lot. Forty five pulled pork sandwiches in ten minutes,
fifty three soft beef tacos in ten minutes, and it
really goes on and on. Oh, listen to this. One
(13:33):
hundred and twenty six three inch tacos in eight minutes,
fifty two small cheeseburgers in ten minutes. This guy's an
eating machine. I mean seriously, to be able to go
in and just funnel that and still not be sick.
Think of your interns, you know what I mean, Think
of your inside. It's it's horrible. It's got to be destroyed.
(13:56):
It's crazy. You know.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Yeah, That's what I'm thinking, is he doesn't have any
hell problems.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
I mean, it's one thing if one day a year
and obviously you're training for Here's my question, and I'm
being kind of serious about this, like how much does
he have to eat to train?
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Like?
Speaker 5 (14:10):
It's not like he just shows up on July first
and eats seventy hot dogs.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
You know, I don't think he does that anymore. I
actually heard somebody talking about this. I think like a
day or two before the event. It's not that he eats.
He drinks like special water shifted from somewhere to make
his stomach expanse and he makes it bigger something like that.
There you go. Do you eat Robin? Right? You've eaten
Robin before? You know? Those cups of Robin noodles. I
have ten cups of Robin noodles in another two minutes. Wow,
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that's got a.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
Lot of sodium. I mean, you're telling me that I
have too much salt in my diet. It's a lot
of sodium from a man.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
I'll give you one more eighty one waffles in eight minutes,
and those those are four waffles too. Those those things
they fill you up, you know what I mean. A
couple of those and you're pretty much done. Wow, that's
fifteen large bowls of gumbo in eight minutes. He really
he could, he seriously, and he's got about almost fifty
(15:06):
records here. So it's not just hot dogs that this
guy will eat. He'll put down a lot of things
out there. So congratulations to Joey chessed up at, to
Mickey Soto who won the women's event. Yeah, she blew
away the competition also, so it wasn't really much of
a event by the way. Joey chested at. The over
under was seventy and a half to seventy one, so
(15:31):
it was right there on the over under if you
were betting on it in Vegas. Can you imagine betting
big money on that in Vegas? Too? The overunder was
what seventy and a half and how many did he eat?
Seventy one? Wow? Yeah Vega. Some places had it seventy
one also, so yeah, it could have been a push
(15:51):
depending on where you got down there. Was people talking
about it on Twitter all day long today, pushing for
Joey to get the over He had about fifty in
the first five minutes, or like a little bit past
the five minute mark. It looks like he was gonna
shatter seventy, but then he slowed down and it got
tough at the last twenty were real tough on him,
(16:13):
all right. So if you want to come on, Aaron
underscore Torres, I'm it sticking genius one. Are you like
Aaron and you can't stomach the Nathan's Hotdog contest? Are
you like me? And not only did you watch it?
After that airon? I went upstairs and I had two
hot dogs myself with a little mustard, spicy money. Twinks
what how many twinkies? No, I didn't have any twinkies.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
My hot dogs and seventy eight twinkies.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Yeah, my wife wouldn't if she saw me eating a twinkie,
she'd rather catch me in bed with like two blodes
then than twinkies. I promise you that. Oh my god,
the twinkies. What do you eat it? You want to
kill yourself? Oh? It would it would be pure hell.
I want to get to lebron he's the big news today.
(16:57):
I really don't even know where to start about the
picture about him in the Cleveland facility, or the hat
that said welcome home, or him going to social media
saying everybody chill out. You know, g D I come
here every summer to work out, or if he's going
to be back to the Lakers. So let's start at
the beginning. We know now with the new owners, Lebron's
(17:20):
going to be back or maybe be back for one
more year. Do you think he's going to be back
with the Lakers? Do you think the Lakers make a
move and trade him? There's still value out there? How
many teams would want this guy? Is it just Cleveland
that wants this guy? Do you have to only trade
him to Cleveland because that's where you'd want to go?
Does Lebron even want to come back? What do you think, Aaron?
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Are we doing the Lebron segment now? Yeah? Wellb get
right into it. Maybe we should break. Oh look, you
guys calling the shots today. Huh you know no, you're driving.
You're driving, you're driving. I just that's fine. If you
guys want to want to take a quick break, come
back and get into it. Aaron, we'll do that.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
I mean, I think the boss has gont require and
I'm not really totally sure how it works, but I mean,
you did say there were less breaks back in the
day when you were hosting with Ben Franklin.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
They did take sixty Yes, yeah, it's in a sixty
collar in an hour kind of show tonight already spending.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Torres wants to probably go eat some pizza or something solid.
Twinking bro. Yes, we'll come back. We'll get to Lebron.
I do have a lot of questions. You want to
jump in, Aaron underscore, Toris, I'm in stinking genius one.
We're in for the guys tonight Jason Smith and his
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Speaker 3 (19:13):
You think everyone are in Torres? Arnie Spanier and for
the guys, Jason Smith and his best Fred Mike Harmon
right here on Fox Sports Radio. I hope everybody had
a grade fourth of July out there, all right, Torres.
Before we went to the break, we're getting ready to
talk about Lebron. I think he's a little embarrassed. I
(19:34):
think he knows the Lakers really don't want him back.
I think he wants to be gone. I think all
this social media he did today is planned. And we'll
get you to the real quick. Yeah, go ahead, go
right in.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
If he believes the Lakers don't want him back, why
pick up the player.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Option, the fifty two million or whatever it was.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
Let me ask you, okay, let me ask you a
different questions. No, no, I listen, there are two sides
to everything right, is that there's the side that you know,
guys like us should never question a player for maximizing
the most possible money that they can get over the
course of their career. Lebron is obviously in his you know,
(20:19):
final year or two three whatever in the league. I
would bring it up because if you know you're not
wanted somewhere, you have more money than you can ever spend,
and on top of everything else, you apparently don't believe
they can win right now with the roster currently constructed.
(20:40):
Based on the statement you released right after you signed
that contract, why did you sign the You could say, well,
you don't turn down fifty three million.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
I guess I get it, but Arnie, I don't.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
I can't speak for is it any different than Kobe
taking the money his last two years and people have
been very.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
But he was kobe lifetime Laker, was to retire as
a Laker. Loll Lebron His clear priority is he clearly
wants to put himself in yet another position where he
believes he can win a championship. He doesn't believe like
that's happening with the lot.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
I don't think he wanted to find out how much
it would have been worth on the open market, it
wouldn't have been fifty two million dollars, so that could
have been another reason out there. And again I don't
begrudge him for taking the fifty two mil. I certainly
understand it. I don't care if he has all the
money in the world or not. It's still what he
deserves and still what he earned out there, so I'm
okay with it. I just feel I felt like it
(21:34):
started going south real quick after that, though, and it's
got to the point now I don't think he's going
to be on this Laker roster when the season starts.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
There don't know where's it going to go.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
I think it's going to be Cleveland. Do you think
they want him? That's that's the million dollar question. I mean,
he was in the Cleveland facility. But then again, he said, well,
I work out here every summer, but you wear a
hat that said welcome home, and you know, don't play
us for fools. Don't try to be like Aaron Rodgers
and use different wording. And I come here and you
(22:07):
know you do it on purpose. When when you go
ahead and wear a hat like that, you're sending a
message that's like you taking a picture and go, hey,
look at my new friend, and you send it to
your wife and it's some beautiful blonde next to you
or something like that. We're in a bikini. You got
blondes on your mind tonight. Man. But you know what
I'm saying, You're trying to send the message, and that's
(22:27):
what he was doing. I think he wants to leave
now because he's a little embarrassed, and I think the
Lakers want to move on from him. They're just trying
to figure out the best possible way and how not to.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
Take a big hit right now. So I know you
kind of tease this before the before the break. I
do think he's going to be a Laker because I
don't really think there's a market for him. And listen, Arnie,
you know, we can maybe get Mark Medina on later
or something to explain all these details. These NBA trades,
you gotta trade salary for salary, and if somebody has
(23:03):
a player or two that are the equivalent of fifty
three million, I find it very hard to believe that
they are going to give that player or those players
up for one year of Lebron James. Like if you're
the Cleveland Cavaliers like, oh, he wants to go back
to Cleveland, Well, who are you gonna trade Evan Mobley?
You're gonna trade a twenty three to twenty four year
old Evan Mobley for a forty one year old Lebron?
Speaker 3 (23:25):
No, but what happens if the team that you trade
into it will say Cleveland he brings because Luke what
he did to that team's worth when he was there.
Suppose he's gonna bring in more money to the team.
Doesn't that mean anything or No?
Speaker 5 (23:39):
I think if you're Cleveland and you have a very
finite window to potentially win the East next year, I
don't think i'd have to see who they'd have to
give up. But I don't know if Lebron makes them better.
And I don't think it's about making money. When you
have a chance to legitimately compete for a championship next
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year or at least the Eastern Conference, at least the
NBA Finals in winning the East.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Why doesn't he make them better? You don't still think
he's an elite player. You don't think he's a top
ten player. You don't think he's a guy twenty points
a game.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
I don't think he's a top ten player.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Though you think he lost most of his skills. How
many more years do you think he has left?
Speaker 5 (24:17):
Well to the first question, I don't think he's lost
most of his skills. But again, who are you giving up?
Are you giving up Evan Mobley? Are giving up Donovan Mitchell?
I guess if you're giving up don Darius Garland? Maybe,
But again, it can't just be Darius Garland. It's got
to be other pieces. And I just don't know that
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at forty one years old.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Now, can I just push back on that when you
said that, Look, I'm not a capologist. Nobody listening to
the show as a capologist, so I could probably make
stuff up and nobody could really press me on that.
But look who you're dealing with now, You're dealing with
the Walters group who came up with a new way
to pay everybody for the Dodgers by giving them what
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fifty cents up front and everything else is like backloaded
deferred money.
Speaker 7 (25:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Right, So if anybody could come up with shenanigans, for
lack of better words, it would be him. Right, There'd
be a way to say, okay, Lebron, you get your
fifty two million or fifty three million or whatever it is.
But fifty two million will be deferred as a bonus
and your salaries a million dollars or something like that.
I don't know. Can can they rework it like that
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or is that not possible? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
I also don't know, like when I mean, I assume
Genie Buss is still running things at the moment, so
I mean, obviously Rob Polink is running things.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
But I disagree with that.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
By the way, why I don't think Jesus, I know,
I talk to her talking about blonds down stops.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
I didn't know who different this this uh, you know
buy has been going on for years, you know what
I mean a matter of fact, I don't think I
think the Walters group had the Okay, hey, the Luca trade.
What did you think about that? Oh? Am I wrong
on that? Is that crazy to think that since they
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were in the works of buying this thing, that they
would have to give final approval of something like that or.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
No, I would think that that is not accurate.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Really, the Luca trade was in February, Arnie, no but anything. Yeah,
but it was fine five months ago. But this has
been going on for over a year and a half,
two years this purchase.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
All I'll say is.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
Considering that no one had an inkling that Luca was
even available. Yeah, I think that there were probably not
very many parties that were privy to that trade.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
I could see Genie calling over and said, look, I
know we're getting real close to this purchase. I just
want you to know we're making a big trade. I
hope it doesn't affect the purchase of the Lakers, and
this is what we're gonna do. So I could be crazy,
Maybe maybe you're right. Maybe I'm completely nuts on that
we're gonna come back. I got more Lebron.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
I was gonna say, let's get back to Lebron.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
I want to I want to talk about what, what, what,
what he did on social media today and how he's
going to be remembered as a Waker and what the
Waker fans think of them. So all that's coming up next.
But first, let's check in with my buddy, who's mad
at me today because I made him work. It's Steve
the Sager. What's going on to saga?
Speaker 6 (27:20):
We let Arnie think that he actually carries power in
the am.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
I not paying you double time.
Speaker 9 (27:25):
Today paying You've never paid for anything?
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Pay you double time? Okay?
Speaker 5 (27:30):
Are you mad that he lumped you in and said
that you were also at the first July fourth with
Benjamin Franklin and.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
Both in person. Actually, wow, the same era you have. Wow,
the youngest charm to you while Arnie Spain.
Speaker 6 (27:46):
Arnie remembers fondly like Sandy Kofax pitching to Roberto Clemente.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Sure, hey, by the way, the saga who is the
king of phone calls? Back? Then?
Speaker 9 (27:55):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Who is the king of phone calls?
Speaker 9 (27:57):
That would be of course, by the way.
Speaker 6 (28:00):
To answer your question from the first segment, it's Rob
Parker who says that Rob Parker Show is the kise.
Nobody else has said that, certainly not Ben Mallar. In fact,
every time Rob says that when Alex is on the board,
Alex plays the Ben Mallard drop in. We've got updates
on July fourth, Major League Baseball, as Houston is leading
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seven to one at Dodger Stadium, bottom of the fifth inning.
You may know, the Dodgers have some pitching injuries, so
when it comes to this point in the starting rotation,
they don't have anybody. So tonight it was Ben Casparius
as the starter. He allowed three homers in his three innings,
which means now in his last four outings, Casparius of
the Dodgers has allowed seventeen runs in under sixteen innings.
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The Dodgers currently have seven starting pitchers on the injured list.
That does include Tyler Glass now who pitched a rehabouting
at Triple A last night four and a third inning,
so he could be back sooner than later. It's going
to be show Hey Otaniaturday night on Fox TV. That's
due to pitch two innings, essentially another all bullpen game,
and they'll be going up against a great lefty from
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er Valdez on Fox.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
Zebeger real quick? What is the plan with Otani?
Speaker 5 (29:11):
Like?
Speaker 4 (29:12):
What is the like way stretch him out slowly?
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Yeah? So like time, what's going on here? Let's go?
Speaker 4 (29:18):
Is there a sinator?
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Like?
Speaker 4 (29:19):
So will he be pitching you know.
Speaker 9 (29:22):
Once a week?
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (29:23):
Not five man rotation?
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Gotcha?
Speaker 5 (29:25):
But would it be like if it's the playoffs, like
and he's ramped up, like, would he go seven innings?
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Like it's not just going to be never two three innings?
Speaker 6 (29:34):
Seven sounds like an awful lot, Yeah, never again will
he go seven.
Speaker 9 (29:38):
Yeah, and and by the.
Speaker 6 (29:39):
Way, for people calling he should be the closer, he
should be, well, then that takes that takes a picture
completely out of his comfort zone because now he doesn't
even know if he's going in the game. Fair so fair,
I'm not so sure about that. And keep in mind
through all of this, he threw a lot of what
they call simulated games batting practice against minor leaguers and oh,
that would have been a hit, and that would have
been an out that type of thing. Because he can't
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go to the minors for rehab start lack Tyler Glasston.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
I think that's the most interesting part, is like, oh,
he just can't do rehab starts.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Because he's the best hitter in baseball.
Speaker 9 (30:09):
You'd be sending your DH to triple.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Ah, he should have done the triple. A team should
have said we'll play at Dodger Stadium before the Dodger game. Oh,
that would have been thinking out of a lot of people.
Speaker 9 (30:20):
That's why I span your needs to be running the Dodgers.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
There you go, look at me. I'm an idea guy.
That's me.
Speaker 9 (30:26):
The A's, don't call them.
Speaker 6 (30:27):
The Oakland A's are leading four nothing over Justin Verlander
and the Giants in the bottom of the second, Kansas
City up six to two at Arizona, bottom of the third,
and my goodness, all weekend we're gonna get White Sox
at Rockies.
Speaker 9 (30:39):
People set the DVR.
Speaker 6 (30:41):
It's the White Sox leading three to two at Colorado
in the bottom of the night. If the Rockies don't
win this one, that means their home record will be
nine and thirty five this year. Padres won in ten
against Texas. Toronto won in ten against the Angels on
a throwing air. Toronto's won six in a row. Meanwhile,
the Yankees have lost five straight. Mets beat him six
to five, and the Mets second in the nl EA,
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is just a half game behind the Phillies, who lost
at home today nine to six to Cincinnati, Milwaukee and
Baltimore with wins Detroit one again two to one at Cleveland,
which has lost eight in a row, and a w
NBA note that league is off tonight, but Caitlin Clark
will miss a fifth straight game Saturday due to her
growing entry back to you.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Hey, by the way, the SEGA, did you hear that
there's a former Dodger and a rapper putting together a
group to put the investors to back the a's and
relocate them to Vegas. Did you see that?
Speaker 5 (31:33):
That is a true story. He's not making it up.
It's Chanho Park Shanhol somehow involved. I thought it right
before he went on here and.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
The rapper Sugar, right, did they get them right.
Speaker 9 (31:44):
To relocate to I've already relocated.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
I think they're gonna buy I think they're gonna buy
a piece of whoever would it be the family that
already owns it, the Fishers.
Speaker 9 (31:55):
Or whatever that took him out of Oakland?
Speaker 8 (31:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Yeah, there was a talk that there's having there's problems
right now from what I hear, some type.
Speaker 6 (32:03):
Of they already broke ground on the new saw that
they have raised. The Tropicana which used to be across
the street. I say, used to be across the street
from MGM on the strip is where that ballpark's going
to be. With air conditioning in the new place distributed
through the seats instead of a centralized system. With the
Vegas summer heat.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
I think they needed more money. I think they needed
more backing. So it says that Sugar, Did I say
that right? Am? I saying that, right, you're asking me
and Channo Park are joining a group of investors that
are backing the A's at a two billion dollar valuation. Wow.
Speaker 6 (32:38):
Yeah, the ballpark is supposed to be one point seventy
five billion. The state responsibility is only a portion of that,
way less than half of that under four hundred million.
In other words, a lot less than the Raiders.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
I was just say I think that was a part
of the reason why people didn't think it was actually
gonna happen. The state was like, we're tired of helping
you build all these stadiums in.
Speaker 6 (32:56):
And the reason they helped the Raiders there, well, there's
Twofold is one UNLV players there, so that's a state school.
So they can say, well, of course we put state
money toward this. But also the Raiders owner. People talk
about all NFL owners are rich, some of them are
not rich until they sell their team.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Yep.
Speaker 6 (33:12):
I mean the Raiders and Chargers have been since nineteen
sixty rivals and they almost went together to build a
stadium before they each moved. Because they're each cash poor.
They don't have stadium money solo.
Speaker 5 (33:25):
Well, that's like the Bus family, like the you know,
the money family tied into the organization until of course, like.
Speaker 6 (33:31):
That when the O'Malleys owned the Dodgers, that was a
very successful franchise.
Speaker 9 (33:35):
They didn't have this kind of money.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Yeah, but the A's you'll remember this to Saga, they
were historic. Remember the Gene tennis, the Joe.
Speaker 6 (33:41):
Rudy Rolly fingers yingers right, oh my, or sure star
player was probably making fifty thousand bucks back.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
But well no, but to.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
Might of Blue, right, he was an Oaklany right to
this conversation about Chanhill Park.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
I mean, that was the thing with the Fisher guy
to begin with.
Speaker 5 (33:58):
I just think it's gonna work out because it's Vegas
and it's gonna be awesome.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
But the way MLB handled that was so embarrassing.
Speaker 6 (34:06):
Just it was just all they're sharing a triple A
stadium for the whole season and potentially what three years?
Speaker 4 (34:12):
Yeah, in twenty twenty eight, I think it is.
Speaker 9 (34:14):
Yeah, that's three seasons.
Speaker 6 (34:15):
Not just in sharing, so that same field is going
to have one hundred and sixty games on it.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Wow, I didn't even I mean, I guess I should
have known that.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
But all right, thank you the SEGA. I'll think what
we'll do. We'll come back more and Lebron more in
some of the moves that the Lakers made and other
moves in the NBA. All that coming up next right
here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
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Speaker 3 (34:43):
All Right, good evening, everyone, Aaron Torres, Arnie Spaniel, win
for the guys to night, Jason Smith and his best
Fred Mike Harmon on this Friday. I hope everybody had
a great Fourth of July out there, all right. Cut
it back to Lebron now, and I do want to
get his latest social media signals today or whatever you
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want to call them. But before I get to that, Aaron,
I'm just kind of curious, how's he gonna be remembered
as a Laker. I mean, he's certainly not gonna be
as popular as I hate to say this, real Lakers
like a Kobe or a Magic or even a Kareem.
Even though Kareem started his, you know, his career in Milwaukee.
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He's still a Laker and everybody thinks of him as
a Laker. There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
Shack started his career in Orlando people, and he didn't
end his career in LA. I think people still think
of him as a Laker, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
And he went to Miami and other teams.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
All Boston, Cleveland. He was with Cleveland for a year,
actually with Lebron. So we were you and either ones
that had this conversation when I filled in for Plank
the other day. I don't think he's gonna be remembered fondly.
And I know there's a lot of people out there
that would say he won a championship, one of their
Western Conference final but they also missed the playoffs a bunch.
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They lost in the first round this year. And you know,
I'll just be real, is that I really believe.
Speaker 8 (36:15):
That.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
I think he's actually sort of killed the Lakers brand
in this town. When I got here, it was amazing,
you know, Lakers were the biggest thing in the city.
And now everybody loves the Dodgers. And I think a
part of it, I mean, everybody always love the Dodgers,
but it just feels like the Dodgers are bigger. But
I feel like a lot of it is Lebron. Why
what why was he brought him a championship. But I
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don't want to hear about bubble, no bubble. I don't
want to hear that, right, I don't even want to
debate that he still brought you. I don't care if
it was a one game season or one hundred game season.
It makes no difference to me. Everybody played by the
same rules. But that's beside the board. He brought you
a championship. Why is what exactly is it the arrogance?
Why is he not popular? Especially among Lakers? It seems like,
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you know, well, I just think the organization he became
bigger than the organization. I think you know, you have
you lived out here, you have an understanding of the
history of the organization. It's like as good as Magic was,
as good as Call, nobody was bigger than the Lakers.
And you know, I think Lebron thought he was still
in Cleveland. And it's like, you know, I'm gonna hire
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the coaches that I want, I'm gonna run off the
coaches that I don't like.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
I'm gonna bring on my son.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Yeah, I just I'm gonna trade Anthony Davis or that's.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know about that.
Speaker 5 (37:33):
I'll tell you what you know what was his I'm
gonna bring in Russell Westbrook and then it didn't work,
and all of a sudden, he's trying to blame everybody else,
and so I just think, you know the I go
back to Arnie and I might have told this story
to you. I know I've said it on air before.
I just go back to I remember the first one
or two press conferences that he did. I don't know
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if it was the opening press conference or what, but
one of the reporters asked him, what would it mean
to your legacy to win a championship as a Laker,
And he said something that I stuck with me forever.
He said, Uh, my legacy's already set. It wouldn't mean anything.
And I was like, Bro, he don't get it. Like,
no one in LA cares about what you did with
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the Cavs, no one in LA cares what you did
in Miami. If you don't bring championships to LA, you're
not gonna be remembered fondly. And so, if I'm reading
this correctly, and I don't know exactly, I don't know
exactly what year he joined the team, but I believe
it was the twenty eighteen twenty nineteen season right, two
miss playoff appearances, three first round exits. Yeah, I'm sorry,
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that's not the standard for the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
That might doesn't make you belove this is what you're saying.
There'll be no statue or shoulder be a statue because
I mean, he is one of the best players in
the history of the game, and one or two depending
on how you want to look at it.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
Didn't Genie say that.
Speaker 5 (38:50):
She I know she doesn't really have a say anymore,
but I don't think he deserves a statue. I mean,
let's let's just talk this out real quick, and I
know we only have a minute. He's not a top Laker, right,
I mean, he's not ahead of Magic, he's not out Kobe,
he's not ahead of Jerry West, he's not ahead of
Sareem No, that's already four right there.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
I wouldn't put him ahead of Shack for sure.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
That's five. Five.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
Yeah, yeah, so I don't know. I mean, let me
ask you this.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
You can't have a statue for everybody who has had
a bigger impact on Lakers history, Robert Rory or Lebron
James Robert Robert Ory. Yes, he's made his big shot
Bob of course, absolutely.
Speaker 4 (39:31):
Rick Fisher, I would say Derek Fisher's had a bigger
impact on.
Speaker 5 (39:33):
Your right about that too. Yeah, you're doesn't have a statue.
I mean serious, Hal Gasol, as best I know, doesn't
have a statue.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
He was a big part of Laker Lord two. You're
one hundred percent right on that. But he gets a
lot of hatred for that reason. I'm not sure why.
I think it's because of the arrogance and some of
the stuff going on and some of the times we
live in and some people don't like his politics or whatever.
But he feels I feel like sometimes he gets a
bad rap on the whole thing. Aaron, I feel like
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we let's go on too much.
Speaker 5 (40:05):
Let's revisit this because I have a further thought on
Lebron that I want to run by you throughout the
show tonight.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
So all right, and well, we got a lot. I
want to get to the MJ situation. I thought that
was a interesting quote by Paul George, so that's gonna
be something. Also, got a great stat on home field
in the NFL that we have to go over. You're
silly gonna love this why NFL home field might not
be as big as it used to be. You want
to be part of the show, real simple, Aaron, underscore Torres,
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I'm its thinking genius one. So we'll certainly take your tweets.
We got a lot of them. That Torres doing a
bad job keeping his eye on the tweets out there,
So bad job by Torres. Shame on you, Aaron.
Speaker 4 (40:46):
So I didn't know I was our social media producer.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
Where you are now, I've promoted you to social media
producer like Animal House. You have to drive us to
the food King. So we're in for the guys tonight.
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