June 28, 2023 • 35 mins
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don't look, no, don't look no, gotta have it. Through
(01:01):
five innings, the Dodgers lead the Rockies Ford to nothing.
Clayton Kershaw has not given up a hit. He gave
up a walk in the last inning walked Elias das
b was a race in a double play. Kershaw no
(01:23):
hits through five. He is at sixty five pitches. This
is perfect. Oh sixty five. Maybe by the ninthies at
one hundred. Dave Roberts just rubbing his hands together, going
gonna come at you after like eight and a third,
Clayton coming to get you. Get to one hundred pitches,
maybe you get to eighty five. I'm taking I'm gonna
do it, Clayton. I'm gonna be that guy. Dave Roberts
(01:47):
just get getting ready to yank another Dodger out with
a no.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Hitter, slash perfect game. Yeah, you've already got your grim
Reaper out there. I grabbed the gift from the I
gotta have more cowbell as we don't fear the Reaper
here on a Tuesday night. But kershaw day, he lay
down to two five eight, only two strikeouts, so effective
pitching balls put in play, defense backing them up. Only
(02:14):
sixty five pitches forty four of them for strikes thus far.
And now we just I need the picture and picture
of Dave Roberts man.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
That's all, do you really know?
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Yeah, come on, he's gotta be sweating buckets like they
eat a inching closer and closer to the top step going.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Are they gonna call down from the from the front
office and say take him out. Are they gonna then?
Come on, man, don't do it to me those he's
just pissed.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Kershaw only has sixty five pitches.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Yeah, if he was about ten ten to twelve pitches more,
i'd be an easier decision.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
All right, you get one more game. Yeah, but at
sixty five pitches, so he's averaging about a little over
twelve pitches an inningk Right, so you figure another's good
for you. Another twenty four pitches puts him at ninety.
So maybe he gets to the eighth inning around ninety pitches,
which is when you get really nervous. Right, No, leave
(03:04):
the guy in, No, no, no, get ready, we're gonna
bring it. Get gredder, all up heads. Everybody wants to
see get him up in the eighth inning. We could
be saying it's.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
Gonna no, no, no, he's an opener.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Now it's gonna happen.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
I can't gotta love the theater though, I mean, that's
the beauty baseball every night giving us uh, just beautiful storylines,
great performances. Martinez with two home runs tonight. They're in Colorado,
so everything you could want. As we get closer to
the All Star break, m no.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Hits through five. Dave Roberts has the scythe in one hand.
He's got, he's got, he's getting fitted right now in
the dugout for the robe. I'm ready to come out
there and get you, Clayton, ready to come out and
get you. The big long, bony fingers. He's standing out
there and he's pointing. He points to the bullpen.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
Few Americans. You just talk, talk talk.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
I just want us say and letting me tell you something.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
We shut up because you're all dead.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
I want here. It is like, like, is is Dave Roberts?
And do they even Is he even rooting for him
to continue on with a no hitter? Does he want
him to give up a hits just so it's easier
him to take it out? Take him?
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Really?
Speaker 1 (04:17):
I think he doesn't like sitting there at the end
of games going, you know, people say I'm gonna do this,
and I'm gonna do this. I won't anybody pitch a
no hitter and all that. I mean, I can't think
he likes to do that. But at the same time,
is he really rooting for them to get it? Come on,
give up the hit. Just one little bleeder, just a
little Bleeder. That ah, that just a little two out.
Nobody on Bleeder. I know we get the next out
(04:37):
so we can move on.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Yeah, I gotta think at some point he's also gonna
crack under the Hey, I gotta keep giving these stock
speeches about this management style that they're forcing upon me
from on high.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
Man can't do it anymore.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
You wait for that Dave Roberts book that comes out
at the end chapter five No hitters. Well, let me
tell you that's how it's gonna start.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
Well, hey, I got have I got a story for you.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
I didn't want to do it, felt I owed it
to them. So here's where we are right now. Clayton
Kershaw another typical Clayton Kershaw, outing forty four pitches for strikes.
He's only got two strikeouts in the game, so that's
his strikeouts are down, but still uh, sixty five pitches
through five innings. Dodgers lead the rock. He's pretty comfortable
right now, five to nothing on this. Yeah, but it's
(05:25):
only going to be a no hitter. No, it's only
going to be an open my book. That's why you
don't work for the Elias Sports Bureau. All these stats
are wrong. Frostbury. Keepka, you have guys with all kinds
of no hitters for the Dodgers. Well, I don't count
that hit. It was hit very hard. Oh okay, Well
I would say this if he does face like say,
he finishes and he faces only the minimum number of batters,
(05:46):
I could get on board that dude. That's what I'm
talking about.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
Mike, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
But he walked the guy. But he walked the guy.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Yeah, but then he erased him. Yeah, but he all
schwartzen anger and erased him.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
The guy got on base. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
Did you see him there at the end of the inning?
Speaker 1 (06:03):
He but wait, I thought, no, nope, didn't say it
wasn't a base. Wasn't a base very long? Doesn't really count?
Speaker 4 (06:10):
No, no, no, he will Will Smith say I'm gonna
get all the action heroes in. He did the flashy
thingy thing to him.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
So that's it.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
So still Clayton Kershaw, no hits through five, so much fun.
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We got a lot of big NBA stuff to get
(06:38):
to tonight. We're starting to get a little interesting stuff
going on in the NFL. Josh Jacobs potentially could hold out.
Derek Carr is speaking about what made him really be
done with the Raiders, which is kind of insane, But
we got to spend a few minutes here. Just a shocking,
tragic story to talk about as former Arkansas, Michigan and
Arkansas and NFL quarterback Ryan Mallett in an apparent drowning
(07:01):
accident at the age of thirty five. He was in
Okalouosa County in at a beach with some friends. A
group of people were swimming in the Gulf of Mexico
near a sandbar, and they struggled to make their way
back to shore. Potentially could be a rip current, could
be some kind of undertow, we don't know. One of
the individuals, who has later identified as Ryan Mallett, was
(07:22):
not breathing when he was pulled out of the water.
Was transported to a local hospital where he was pronounced dead.
And a shocking story and tragic for someone that we
all remember his career. We all remember everything that went
on with him. He was coaching in high school. Now
after leaving the NFL, he said, this is what I
always wanted to do. I know the game, I can
give back, and it's what I want to do. And
(07:44):
you know, just for a second, just for his NFL career,
we talk a lot about Jimmy Garoppolo being the guy
that was going to replace Brady, Right, that's what Bill
Belichick wanted because Brady was getting older and here's what
we're going to do. But Ryan Mallett was the first
guy that Belichick had identified to this is who I'm
(08:04):
going to replace Tom Brady with. Because he comes out
of the draft in twenty eleven, you know, after he
went to Michigan for a year and then transferred to
Arkansas where he had some huge years. Could have gone
to the NFL before his junior year, could have been
one of the top five quarterbacks pick, but he said
went back for a senior year. Was a third round pick.
Here's the Patriots who are in the middle of their
Super Bowl run in twenty eleven, and in the third round,
(08:28):
Belichick took Ryan Mallett, and he talked about him what
a great winner he was. He's won at every level.
This is a guy that's impressive when you talk to him.
This is the first guy that Belichick thought of saying, okay,
when Tom Brady Tom, who knows how much longer Tom
Brady has left, because at that point Brady had been
in the NFL for a decade. Right, So Brady came
in in two thousand. This is twenty eleven, right, this
(08:50):
is ten years as a starter, eleven years. Brady's in
his early thirties, and you don't know how much longer
he's gonna play. You don't know when he's gonna be
done playing. Is Brady gonna be able to stay? Nobody
thought he could be this incredible defire of time and
played till till he was almost forty five years old.
So Ryan Nallet was the guy, like Belichicken identified him as, Hey,
(09:11):
the next iteration of this Patriots dynasty. We have to
start looking who's going to be next, because I don't
know if Tom's going to be this good forever. So
Ryan Mallett was the guy. But Mallet could never get
on the field. I mean, Brady was so durable and
never got you know, he got hurt the one year,
you know, he got hurt in twenty eleven, or in
two thousand and eight when Matt Castle came in, when
(09:31):
Brady tore his acl but that was it, right, Brady
had been pretty durable the rest of the time, so
you knew that Brady was still going to play. So
you know, this was, hey, we don't know how much
who knows how much longer Tom has left? And they
identified that Mallet could have been that guy and if
they moved on at some point, Ryan Mallett could have
been the next quarterback in the Patriots dynasty. Because when
(09:52):
you draft a guy the third round, you don't draft
a quarter even in twenty eleven, you don't draft a
quarterback in the third round unless you think, oh, at
some point, this guy's gonna wind up playing for us.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Yeah, I mean you mentioned the Matt Castle year. Remember
he parlayed that into what was then thought to be
in a ridiculous six year, sixty three million dollar deal
with nearly thirty million guarantees.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
Like whoa, It's like, well, no, that's that's out long ago.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
It is.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
That market was like, now that that's you know, third
backup kind of money. But after that one year, I
mean every year we talk about it. I mean, you've
been doing fantasy football a long time. I was like,
all right, you got Philip Rivers, the Mannings, Breeze and
Brady and then maybe two or three other guys that
would get through a season unscathed. So the opportunity never
(10:39):
grew there, got an opportunity a little bit in Houston,
and then a couple of years with the Ravens, and
then out of football, you know, a high school coach
and you know some outpouring of love in the community.
But you know a guy that we remember as as
one of the many that were there learning in that
(10:59):
that patriot patriot way for lack of a better term, uh,
the one that's often used, but it's it's, you know,
one one thing, one ankle, whatever, maybe a different career,
but you know, I saw this note today and I
passed it to you guys, and immediately, you know, my
daughter was out at the beach with her friends and
it was just like, all right, hey, someone's paying attention
(11:21):
to you know, what the waves are doing and whatever.
All right, so you know, be smart, look out for
each other. Like it immediately hits you of all of
that because I can't swim for anything, so I go
into the water. I'm I'm just terrified, even when it's
only at my waist. But it's just one of those
you know, momentary things that that can can strike.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
So you know, be safe out there, and just a
tragic tale.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Hopefully we get some great montages from the people speaking
that new invest and certainly we get some of that
old video from him slinging it in college when he
was putting up those crazy numbers before throwing was the
thing I remember because you know me, I live in
Michigan house, right because my wife is you know, is
Michigan through and through short in the football obviously every
Michigan game the past thirty five years.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
I could be a Michigan historian. And I remember how
mad everybody was when he transferred because okay, Mallet's the guy.
And then because a new coaching staff comes in with
a new with a new philosophy, it's like, you know what, Yeah,
I don't know that this is for me. He's like wait, wait, wait,
not know this for me? And he goes to Arkansas
and it was whoa we thought we had our guy.
(12:26):
He was our guy, and everybody was being really mad.
Then to go see him play and just play so
well at Arkansas for a couple of years with Patrino,
it was really something. I mean, look, he finished in
the top five, top seven for the Heisman Trophy a
couple but you know both years there all as.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
He thirty touchdown seasons.
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Speaker 3 (13:35):
What's going on? Gentlemen?
Speaker 5 (13:36):
Hid Barny.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
You know, we had a lot of big stuff to
get to all, you know, all those topics that I mentioned,
But I want to just talk to you for a
couple minutes about Ryan Mallett that the chapter story today
dying at the age of thirty five in a drowning accident.
This is a guy that we all remember his career
in college the NFL, and you know, I remember when
he was drafted and thinking, you know, looking back, Jace,
(13:58):
don't you have to think that little Belichick drafted him
to be the heir to Tom Brady Because when they
did it in twenty eleven, Brady's thirty three. Nobody knew
he was going to defy aging and play until he's
forty five. So it was, hey, Brady's still great, but
he's thirty three. Mallet sits for a couple of years.
I love everything about the kid. Belichick would say great
(14:18):
things about him, and in two plus years or so
it would be Ryan Mallett, quarterback of the Patriots.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Yeah, it kind of started a process there where what
was it Jacobe Brissett, you know what I mean a
little bit after that, and you had Garoppolo in there
as well. And yeah, but it's obviously, I mean, this
guy is almost young enough, you know, to be a
child of mine. It's far, far too young in his
(14:46):
life for him to pass. And you have to, you know, obviously,
your heart goes out to everybody who is family, his friends,
people who knew him best because he was very active
coaching the game at the high school level. And yeah,
he's someone who came out of school with with sort
of a rocket arm, and it was kind of like,
you know, is someone going to be able to kind
(15:07):
of corral him and coach him up a little bit?
And because there were some athletic traits there and some
some arm talent that obviously a lot of coaches over
the course of time became sorry, my dog is freaking out,
became enamored with uh geez, I hope that's not super low.
(15:29):
You know that that obviously, you know, kept him in
the league for a while and and and you know,
again there was there was certainly potential that coaches fell
in love with. But yeah, a horrible situation, a guy
who had an opportunity to meet a lot of people
in this league and and playing a bunch of different organizations,
(15:50):
and it's just obviously a sad, sad day.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Jason, back to the off season, as we have these
couple of weeks before you get to work in training camp. Uh,
is there going to be a class action hold out
by running backs across the league or it's going to
be alone?
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Yeah? Look, I really don't know what a group hold out,
you know what I mean, would would accomplish because their
individual and collective leverage is not very high. And it's
a sport of supply and demand, and it's a sport
that has become increasingly sort of I won't say run
(16:34):
by people who specialize in analytics and specialize in developing
and cultivating and figuring out you know, value. But there
is a big moneyball element to every professional sport at
this you know, at this juncture, as deep as we're
into this analytics revolution, and I don't know that there's
(16:56):
an outlier team out there that or teams if we're
talking collectives and you know three or four you know,
running backs, brothers and arms, we're all going to sit
out together. I just don't know what the end game
to that would be. It's just tough letting and no
matter even a Josh Jacobs who everything he accomplished in
(17:18):
terms of you know, yards scrimmage yards and what he
meant to that offense and what he can also help
you do in the passing game a little bit like,
I just don't think anybody's getting back to Christian McCaffrey
type levels, you know, let alone the kind of contract
that Adrian Peterson got, She's you know, I don't know
what was that twenty ten. It's just a different game
(17:43):
and they're not going to pay and I don't think
that's changing in the next six weeks, you know, between
now and the start of training camps are now and
the middle of the preseason. I just don't think anybody's
really going to budge and say that we think that
player puts us over the top. There's just been too
many instances of teams finding value in so many different ways.
(18:07):
And even just look at the team standing at the
top of the mountain right now, right they did it
at the end of the first round. They got a
lot of accolades for it, and it didn't pan out.
You know what I mean. They take this kid Pacheco
this year and he ends up being a real mainstay
in their offense, and he's you know, they've nothing invested
(18:31):
in him in terms of real capital, So I don't
think anything changes. I think, unfortunately, most of them have
to kind of go back with the tail between their
legs and end up eventually signing that franchise tender. I mean,
Leveon Bell did this, you know what I mean, even
before the pendulum had swung this much, and he got
good money out of the Jets, but he was out
(18:52):
of the league two years later, and he never got
anything close to the money he would have made in
the first three years of the contract that the Steelers
you know, offered him as an extra before he held out.
So I just think it, unfortunately, kind of is what
it is.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Jay. When it comes to Dalvin Cook, you know, one
of the running backs we reference, here's the Jets. Potentially
there's some interest. He's liking tweets the Jets are saying,
come play here. Yes, great, Miami now is interested in
Dalvin Cook. How's this going to end for him?
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Well, I mean, it's it's nice to be interested, but
like is there anybody out there who wants to pay
him anything close to what he's used to make, you know,
to be earning on a per year basis on the
contract extension he did with the Vikings. And the short
and long and obvious and clear answer to that is no,
(19:41):
or you know, the market would have formed. And if
you have two teams that really want you, then you
have a really good chance of getting somewhat close to
what you think you're worth. And that's not out there now,
and it very well may take injury or you know,
a team that thinks it's found its solution and in
the draft to find out that maybe they haven't. But again,
(20:04):
right now is really the only time that coaches and
gms get to kind of like log off and you know,
invest time and energy and their families and their lives
instead of their vocations. And if somebody really felt like
he was the difference in their season as presently constructed,
(20:26):
then this then this would have happened before everybody shut
it down and went on vacation, you know, and and
basically said see you in in late July. So I
again don't think this changes much unless the market changes.
There's teams that want him, but they want him at
a certain value, and there's a disconnect right now. And again,
(20:49):
maybe an injury, maybe some outside factor gets one of
these teams to all of a sudden jump up and say, yeah, yeah,
we really do like you significantly, significantly more than the
rest of these teams, and here's what we're willing to
put in front of you in terms of compensation. But
ultimately it may come down to him trying to find
the best fit and the best game with the best
(21:10):
offensive line and the best play caller to put him
in position to make money a year from now. As
much as that's a difficult situation for any running back to,
you know, that's not the crystal ball they want to
look into because they get hurt so much and because
now you're a year older, and yeah, all those market
forces still work against you. But people have known that
(21:30):
Dalvin cook future was over in Minnesota since pretty much
the end of last season. And who's clamoring, like, tell
me what what am I missing? Here? Where? What?
Speaker 4 (21:41):
What?
Speaker 3 (21:41):
What? What's happened? It seems to me nothing.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
Just a lot of time elapsed.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
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Speaker 3 (22:10):
Rightfully, his meds have kicked in. Yeah, there you go.
Respiratory infection.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
Oh wow, I'm sorry to hear that.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
These day to day is the day to day.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
It could be worth it could be day to day.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
No, trust me, he's yes, he's he's very much choppers
always day to day.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
All right, So let's go back to Nevada and New Orleans.
How many tissues did you need to get through? The
Derek Carr comments about how things ended in his tenureinators
because he would have played for free, you know.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Yeah, yeah, I don't love Come on, this guy's got
a little bit of Ben Roethlisberger in his game, you know,
the self myth mythologizing and thinking people are really, you know,
more caught up in your narratives than they really are.
Of course, he doesn't have anything close to Ben Roethlisberger's
back of the football card, you know, to back that up,
(22:59):
or to really think that people are as interested in
you as you think people should be. I think he's,
you know, a good quarterback who clearly has flaws, who's
never really been able to really get back to the
level he was at when he got hurt, you know
what I mean, under Jack del Rio and wasn't able
(23:19):
to you know, play down the stretch and in the playoffs.
And you know, that was a year when he was
at least on the periphery of the MVP conversation. And
that looks more like an outlier than than the norm.
And something's always off there. Things never quite get to
the level we think they will. And again, last year
really should have been no excuses. Time you got the
(23:41):
best back in the NFL. They went and got your
best buddy, you know what I mean, your college roommate,
arguably the best wide receiver in the NFL. You still
had Darren Waller at least to start, and you lost
your job, you know, to Jared's did him like that
because they wanted to dump your contracts so badly they
(24:02):
couldn't risk you getting hurt. Anymore. So I don't. I
don't look at that New Orleans team and say, oh, yeah,
this is you know, he's just been on. It's been marketing,
everything's worked against him, and woe is him, And now
finally this is going to be the Derek Carr redemption start.
I think he's put on the Dean declined for a while.
(24:23):
I think that team, you know, has its share of issues.
I really don't know who's any good in that division,
so maybe that helps him. But no, I don't think
you're going to see Derek Carr win a whole lot
of really meaningful football games this year. And I don't
think you're going to see Derek Carr back in New
Orleans next year.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
I mean, so we're are we going to get his
southern accent for one year, because you know the Southern
accent is going to be great. You know he's going
to get it for a year.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Yeah, Like I'm trying to think of like great forced
accents of all time. I remember when Brad Friedel you know,
left MLS and went over and started plying his trade
in the Premiership. He quickly adopted and you know, an
English accent. I think Madonna for a while right, sure
(25:10):
kind of relocated to London. She she kind of picked
one up or just foisted one upon us. Yeah, I
don't think this will rate up there with those. I
think this is going to be pretty quickly forgotten.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
He's on Twitter at Jason locking for that is at
Jason locking for a. Checkhim out on Odyssey watching the
posts as well. Jay has always buddy appreciated my friend.
We'll talk to you next week, my pleasure.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Gentlemen, have a good one.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Yeah, I really, because you know, maybe if he has
to go someplace else with a different accent. But I
really want to see the Cajun accent for Derek Carr
for a season or two.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
Well, I think you'll get it for at least a year.
I mean, we'll see how it develops.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Right, how clunky it is, you know how he drifts
in and out of it like so many actors. If
you really watch a movie, it's like I think I
think it drifted there while he was running, he tried
to talk and suddenly it was gone. You know, all
of those kind of things. So yeah, that's one of
our little side stories. You know, while watching the Jets fail.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
He just has stop. You mean fourteen and three.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
He almost slipped that pass there.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Just watch old tapes of Justin Wilson, right, the Cagun
you know the cage. Yeah, I am Papa on young Garlico.
That's what he's gotta say. Alvin Kamara when it cut, woo,
Michael Thomas, we got an all fans here, Chris Larvae woo.
And that's how you start, and then and then it
gets on from there. Just name all the players and
use that Cajun accent.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
I will say this from all the videos of everybody
telling me they're in the best shape of their lives.
Michael Thomas certainly has not had any ill effects to
his back, and he does not skip leg day with
what he's been pressing.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
So that's good. Now he just has to get on
the on the field.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Yeah, But just has anybody ever not been in the
greatest shape of their lives who comes in and says
and the cut, Hey what kind of yeah, you know,
not really great shape. I have really been trying. I've
got you know, I really need some time. Well no, no, no,
it's it's really worked myself into it.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
No, Jason Moore, it's the idea of when you've got
to put out the videos of you working out because
there had been questions about you the year before. In
Thomas's case, nobody knows where he's at in terms of
his physical and mentally, where he wants to be and
how he wants to be around. Uh, but I mean
(27:28):
Russell Wilson last week we saw, you know, doing those
slide drills or whatever else. What was the big shot
against him?
Speaker 5 (27:35):
Last year?
Speaker 4 (27:36):
He came into camp pudgy and entitled and whatever else.
And now Sean Payton's kick kicking his ass. So you know,
it's the look he's gonna be in great shape. And
all of a sudden, Denver, it's like they're, you know,
like an insider for the NBA telling you where someone's
gonna get drafted, trying to get you to lean.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
Your money that way or something like that.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Best shape of my Like what kind of shape you
at all? But I could in better shape like I've done.
I haven't done a lot, like I know when I
when I've been down, like like I noticed, like I
feel at my lower back now and yeah, I'm just
I stepped on the scale the other day while I'm
like ten pounds of it. Yeah I'm really not in
great shape. I'm really I'm gonna have a tough time
getting around, probably gonna get hurt a couple of times.
I don't know what my stamina is gonna be. So yeah,
(28:18):
don't count on me for a lot this year.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
Well, the follow up question is there what's been at
training table for you?
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Pizza and cheese burgers? And when I asked, was asked
what you want on top of my hot dog? I
said a hamburger. So that that's what I've been eating
for the last couple of days. That's my training table
for it, not a loaded Chicago dog. Now put a
burger on there. Thank you, chef, Thank you chef. Than Jef.
I gotta watch the I gotta watch the second season
(28:45):
of the Bear.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
Ah. There's like three episodes and they're gonna blow your mind.
Are you three?
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Do they keep saying, I've done, Jef, thank done, Thank
you chef, thank you. Everybody's chef now, thank you chef. Yeah,
well that was last year. Everybody was chef, thank you chef. Yes,
Jeff yea, even guys that aren't working in the kitchen chef.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
When I remember when I binge that a like for
like we watched all like in like five days. It
was so good, and I've been walking around like I
wanted to tell people just to like, you know, at
the car repair place or the supermarket, thank you chef.
Thank you chef, Thank you chef. I'm not going it, Yes,
thank you chef. I wanted to just keep saying thank
you chef. Everybody you should chef. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
Man, that's there's a lot of positivity. I mean, that
level of consistency to get folks fired up about the
jobs they're doing. And if they know they know, then
it takes it to a whole other level. But you know,
we should all have such respect and such paces in
our workplace.
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the question you asked me last time. Uh, yes, Catherine
(30:11):
Zada Jones or Julia Roberts and Jean love.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
Well.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
I mean it was something he suggested in the Las
Vegas episode we spoke about yesterday. I'm just gonna channel
my inner d Drich Vader as Lawrence and say nope,
two chicks.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
And leave it.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Hey, Lawrence, you want to come over. No, Nike's man
to watch you messing up my life too.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
That's right, But.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
That's the It's an either or. You don't get you
don't get to choose both. It's an either or. It's
Catherine Zada, I don't play by your rules. That's what
that's the rules. When I when I give you a choice,
that's the rule. You can't just say no, I'm changing No.
When I give you a choice, like when you give
me a choice, Okay, that's the choice. I got a pick.
I can't change the rules.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
No, I'm gonna stick with Zada Jones. I mean the
continuing working with Notorious Chicago. I'm going with whichever way
the wind blows John Cusack is problematic. But between Chicago
and acting as Charlie in High Fidelity with Jack Black,
I mean that wins Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
No, because I know you're very anti John Cusack. You're
very You're very because of the sports thing. You're very
anti am I understand that.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
Well, he doesn't doesn't know whether he wants to be.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
He's trying to be the Chicago fan I know, right,
I tell you that's a myth, like the Yeddie like
he's running for office.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
What does it mean? You're not running for office now.
People aren't going to vote for you for something.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
Just say what fan you And even when you run
for office, you probably should know who some of the
best players of a team's history are before you do.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
Go do a Q and A on their their stadium walkways.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Well there's no crying in baseball, which we've known now
since the league of their own in Nice Surety one.
But now apparently there's no crying in football. Derek Carr,
uh Saints quarterback, when on the Jim Rome Show earlier
today and was asked about, Hey, could you have gone
back to the Raiders at some point when you know,
when things got really bad they benched him for the
last two games of the season. They started Jared Stidham,
(32:03):
and Derek Carr said all of that went out the
window when they made my wife cross. And now that
now was that, like were they making prank phone calls
and she couldn't take it anymore. No, it wasn't like
they were called gray. No, they would they would call
her up and go. And his name is John cenaunnha
(32:26):
uh No, raiders keep calling me with that John Cena
phone prank. I can't stand it. Likely it was how
the Raiders treated Derek Carr made his wife cry, and
he said, that's it. And when this story came out,
I saw so many people jumping up and down on
Derek Carr and just kicking him in the head and
(32:46):
the ribs and everything, I mean metaphorically on social media.
And I'm like, uh, none of these people are married,
none of these people have been understand that you're in
it with the other person no matter what, and if
something happens that upsets your significant other so badly, Yeah,
that's the kind of the person you have to listen to.
(33:07):
If you know they made my wife cry. I could
never go back after that because a my wife was
so incredibly mad at them, I couldn't do it. Or
they pissed me off so much because they made her
cry there's certain things that personally you can't get past that.
And this is not a guy who was, Hey, I'm
looking for my first break in the NFL, and I
don't know what's gonna happen. This is a guy who knew, Hey,
(33:29):
we don't need to go back there if we're that
upset and this makes you that upset. Now that you're
that upset, I'm that upset. Yeah, we don't need to
go back there at all. We can just turn the
page and go on. I completely get that, because your
significant other, it's who you're in it with, right, that's
the person you happen to need to be the most
beholden too, because that's the person that's gonna stay by
your side and see you through life. And if something
happens to upset them or it makes you met. Yeah,
(33:51):
I completely understand him saying I couldn't go back to
the Raiders after that.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
I mean, look, I'd love to hear what kind of
tales he was telling her out of class that would
get her to that level of agitation, et cetera.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
I mean, look, it is the Raiders. It could be
anything I mean.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
But that's what I mean.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Right, we have no idea.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
I mean, it could be any level of dysfunction through
his time there, but the writing was on the wall
in terms of the longevity, even bringing Devonte Adams in
that the likelihood of moving on and changing direction was there.
Nobody apprized it. They didn't watch what happened to so
many other quarterbacks here. I mean, did they get frozen
(34:32):
out of you know, whatever the couple's Halloween parties were
or whatever in season. I mean, I just I'm sorry
she was reduced to tears on stuff. But I mean, look,
nobody thought the Raiders ever did business well outside of
the Amy Trask era, and even then Al would come
over the top.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
And certainly now it's been a clown show for a
long time. Why what did you expect?
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Threw her out about a fresco Mike get Swallen do
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(01:01):
five innings, the Dodgers lead the Rockies Ford to nothing.
Clayton Kershaw has not given up a hit. He gave
up a walk in the last inning walked Elias das
b was a race in a double play. Kershaw no
(01:23):
hits through five. He is at sixty five pitches. This
is perfect. Oh sixty five. Maybe by the ninthies at
one hundred. Dave Roberts just rubbing his hands together, going
gonna come at you after like eight and a third,
Clayton coming to get you. Get to one hundred pitches,
maybe you get to eighty five. I'm taking I'm gonna
do it, Clayton. I'm gonna be that guy. Dave Roberts
(01:47):
just get getting ready to yank another Dodger out with
a no.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Hitter, slash perfect game. Yeah, you've already got your grim
Reaper out there. I grabbed the gift from the I
gotta have more cowbell as we don't fear the Reaper
here on a Tuesday night. But kershaw day, he lay
down to two five eight, only two strikeouts, so effective
pitching balls put in play, defense backing them up. Only
(02:14):
sixty five pitches forty four of them for strikes thus far.
And now we just I need the picture and picture
of Dave Roberts man.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
That's all, do you really know?
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Yeah, come on, he's gotta be sweating buckets like they
eat a inching closer and closer to the top step going.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Are they gonna call down from the from the front
office and say take him out. Are they gonna then?
Come on, man, don't do it to me those he's
just pissed.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Kershaw only has sixty five pitches.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Yeah, if he was about ten ten to twelve pitches more,
i'd be an easier decision.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
All right, you get one more game. Yeah, but at
sixty five pitches, so he's averaging about a little over
twelve pitches an inningk Right, so you figure another's good
for you. Another twenty four pitches puts him at ninety.
So maybe he gets to the eighth inning around ninety pitches,
which is when you get really nervous. Right, No, leave
(03:04):
the guy in, No, no, no, get ready, we're gonna
bring it. Get gredder, all up heads. Everybody wants to
see get him up in the eighth inning. We could
be saying it's.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
Gonna no, no, no, he's an opener.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Now it's gonna happen.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
I can't gotta love the theater though, I mean, that's
the beauty baseball every night giving us uh, just beautiful storylines,
great performances. Martinez with two home runs tonight. They're in Colorado,
so everything you could want. As we get closer to
the All Star break, m no.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Hits through five. Dave Roberts has the scythe in one hand.
He's got, he's got, he's getting fitted right now in
the dugout for the robe. I'm ready to come out
there and get you, Clayton, ready to come out and
get you. The big long, bony fingers. He's standing out
there and he's pointing. He points to the bullpen.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
Few Americans. You just talk, talk talk.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
I just want us say and letting me tell you something.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
We shut up because you're all dead.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
I want here. It is like, like, is is Dave Roberts?
And do they even Is he even rooting for him
to continue on with a no hitter? Does he want
him to give up a hits just so it's easier
him to take it out? Take him?
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Really?
Speaker 1 (04:17):
I think he doesn't like sitting there at the end
of games going, you know, people say I'm gonna do this,
and I'm gonna do this. I won't anybody pitch a
no hitter and all that. I mean, I can't think
he likes to do that. But at the same time,
is he really rooting for them to get it? Come on,
give up the hit. Just one little bleeder, just a
little Bleeder. That ah, that just a little two out.
Nobody on Bleeder. I know we get the next out
(04:37):
so we can move on.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Yeah, I gotta think at some point he's also gonna
crack under the Hey, I gotta keep giving these stock
speeches about this management style that they're forcing upon me
from on high.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
Man can't do it anymore.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
You wait for that Dave Roberts book that comes out
at the end chapter five No hitters. Well, let me
tell you that's how it's gonna start.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
Well, hey, I got have I got a story for you.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
I didn't want to do it, felt I owed it
to them. So here's where we are right now. Clayton
Kershaw another typical Clayton Kershaw, outing forty four pitches for strikes.
He's only got two strikeouts in the game, so that's
his strikeouts are down, but still uh, sixty five pitches
through five innings. Dodgers lead the rock. He's pretty comfortable
right now, five to nothing on this. Yeah, but it's
(05:25):
only going to be a no hitter. No, it's only
going to be an open my book. That's why you
don't work for the Elias Sports Bureau. All these stats
are wrong. Frostbury. Keepka, you have guys with all kinds
of no hitters for the Dodgers. Well, I don't count
that hit. It was hit very hard. Oh okay, Well
I would say this if he does face like say,
he finishes and he faces only the minimum number of batters,
(05:46):
I could get on board that dude. That's what I'm
talking about.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
Mike, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
But he walked the guy. But he walked the guy.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Yeah, but then he erased him. Yeah, but he all
schwartzen anger and erased him.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
The guy got on base. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
Did you see him there at the end of the inning?
Speaker 1 (06:03):
He but wait, I thought, no, nope, didn't say it
wasn't a base. Wasn't a base very long? Doesn't really count?
Speaker 4 (06:10):
No, no, no, he will Will Smith say I'm gonna
get all the action heroes in. He did the flashy
thingy thing to him.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
So that's it.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
So still Clayton Kershaw, no hits through five, so much fun.
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We got a lot of big NBA stuff to get
(06:38):
to tonight. We're starting to get a little interesting stuff
going on in the NFL. Josh Jacobs potentially could hold out.
Derek Carr is speaking about what made him really be
done with the Raiders, which is kind of insane, But
we got to spend a few minutes here. Just a shocking,
tragic story to talk about as former Arkansas, Michigan and
Arkansas and NFL quarterback Ryan Mallett in an apparent drowning
(07:01):
accident at the age of thirty five. He was in
Okalouosa County in at a beach with some friends. A
group of people were swimming in the Gulf of Mexico
near a sandbar, and they struggled to make their way
back to shore. Potentially could be a rip current, could
be some kind of undertow, we don't know. One of
the individuals, who has later identified as Ryan Mallett, was
(07:22):
not breathing when he was pulled out of the water.
Was transported to a local hospital where he was pronounced dead.
And a shocking story and tragic for someone that we
all remember his career. We all remember everything that went
on with him. He was coaching in high school. Now
after leaving the NFL, he said, this is what I
always wanted to do. I know the game, I can
give back, and it's what I want to do. And
(07:44):
you know, just for a second, just for his NFL career,
we talk a lot about Jimmy Garoppolo being the guy
that was going to replace Brady, Right, that's what Bill
Belichick wanted because Brady was getting older and here's what
we're going to do. But Ryan Mallett was the first
guy that Belichick had identified to this is who I'm
(08:04):
going to replace Tom Brady with. Because he comes out
of the draft in twenty eleven, you know, after he
went to Michigan for a year and then transferred to
Arkansas where he had some huge years. Could have gone
to the NFL before his junior year, could have been
one of the top five quarterbacks pick, but he said
went back for a senior year. Was a third round pick.
Here's the Patriots who are in the middle of their
Super Bowl run in twenty eleven, and in the third round,
(08:28):
Belichick took Ryan Mallett, and he talked about him what
a great winner he was. He's won at every level.
This is a guy that's impressive when you talk to him.
This is the first guy that Belichick thought of saying, okay,
when Tom Brady Tom, who knows how much longer Tom
Brady has left, because at that point Brady had been
in the NFL for a decade. Right, So Brady came
in in two thousand. This is twenty eleven, right, this
(08:50):
is ten years as a starter, eleven years. Brady's in
his early thirties, and you don't know how much longer
he's gonna play. You don't know when he's gonna be
done playing. Is Brady gonna be able to stay? Nobody
thought he could be this incredible defire of time and
played till till he was almost forty five years old.
So Ryan Nallet was the guy, like Belichicken identified him as, Hey,
(09:11):
the next iteration of this Patriots dynasty. We have to
start looking who's going to be next, because I don't
know if Tom's going to be this good forever. So
Ryan Mallett was the guy. But Mallet could never get
on the field. I mean, Brady was so durable and
never got you know, he got hurt the one year,
you know, he got hurt in twenty eleven, or in
two thousand and eight when Matt Castle came in, when
(09:31):
Brady tore his acl but that was it, right, Brady
had been pretty durable the rest of the time, so
you knew that Brady was still going to play. So
you know, this was, hey, we don't know how much
who knows how much longer Tom has left? And they
identified that Mallet could have been that guy and if
they moved on at some point, Ryan Mallett could have
been the next quarterback in the Patriots dynasty. Because when
(09:52):
you draft a guy the third round, you don't draft
a quarter even in twenty eleven, you don't draft a
quarterback in the third round unless you think, oh, at
some point, this guy's gonna wind up playing for us.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Yeah, I mean you mentioned the Matt Castle year. Remember
he parlayed that into what was then thought to be
in a ridiculous six year, sixty three million dollar deal
with nearly thirty million guarantees.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
Like whoa, It's like, well, no, that's that's out long ago.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
It is.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
That market was like, now that that's you know, third
backup kind of money. But after that one year, I
mean every year we talk about it. I mean, you've
been doing fantasy football a long time. I was like,
all right, you got Philip Rivers, the Mannings, Breeze and
Brady and then maybe two or three other guys that
would get through a season unscathed. So the opportunity never
(10:39):
grew there, got an opportunity a little bit in Houston,
and then a couple of years with the Ravens, and
then out of football, you know, a high school coach
and you know some outpouring of love in the community.
But you know a guy that we remember as as
one of the many that were there learning in that
(10:59):
that patriot patriot way for lack of a better term, uh,
the one that's often used, but it's it's, you know,
one one thing, one ankle, whatever, maybe a different career,
but you know, I saw this note today and I
passed it to you guys, and immediately, you know, my
daughter was out at the beach with her friends and
it was just like, all right, hey, someone's paying attention
(11:21):
to you know, what the waves are doing and whatever.
All right, so you know, be smart, look out for
each other. Like it immediately hits you of all of
that because I can't swim for anything, so I go
into the water. I'm I'm just terrified, even when it's
only at my waist. But it's just one of those
you know, momentary things that that can can strike.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
So you know, be safe out there, and just a
tragic tale.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Hopefully we get some great montages from the people speaking
that new invest and certainly we get some of that
old video from him slinging it in college when he
was putting up those crazy numbers before throwing was the
thing I remember because you know me, I live in
Michigan house, right because my wife is you know, is
Michigan through and through short in the football obviously every
Michigan game the past thirty five years.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
I could be a Michigan historian. And I remember how
mad everybody was when he transferred because okay, Mallet's the guy.
And then because a new coaching staff comes in with
a new with a new philosophy, it's like, you know what, Yeah,
I don't know that this is for me. He's like wait, wait, wait,
not know this for me? And he goes to Arkansas
and it was whoa we thought we had our guy.
(12:26):
He was our guy, and everybody was being really mad.
Then to go see him play and just play so
well at Arkansas for a couple of years with Patrino,
it was really something. I mean, look, he finished in
the top five, top seven for the Heisman Trophy a
couple but you know both years there all as.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
He thirty touchdown seasons.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
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Speaker 3 (13:35):
What's going on? Gentlemen?
Speaker 5 (13:36):
Hid Barny.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
You know, we had a lot of big stuff to
get to all, you know, all those topics that I mentioned,
But I want to just talk to you for a
couple minutes about Ryan Mallett that the chapter story today
dying at the age of thirty five in a drowning accident.
This is a guy that we all remember his career
in college the NFL, and you know, I remember when
he was drafted and thinking, you know, looking back, Jace,
(13:58):
don't you have to think that little Belichick drafted him
to be the heir to Tom Brady Because when they
did it in twenty eleven, Brady's thirty three. Nobody knew
he was going to defy aging and play until he's
forty five. So it was, hey, Brady's still great, but
he's thirty three. Mallet sits for a couple of years.
I love everything about the kid. Belichick would say great
(14:18):
things about him, and in two plus years or so
it would be Ryan Mallett, quarterback of the Patriots.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Yeah, it kind of started a process there where what
was it Jacobe Brissett, you know what I mean a
little bit after that, and you had Garoppolo in there
as well. And yeah, but it's obviously, I mean, this
guy is almost young enough, you know, to be a
child of mine. It's far, far too young in his
(14:46):
life for him to pass. And you have to, you know, obviously,
your heart goes out to everybody who is family, his friends,
people who knew him best because he was very active
coaching the game at the high school level. And yeah,
he's someone who came out of school with with sort
of a rocket arm, and it was kind of like,
you know, is someone going to be able to kind
(15:07):
of corral him and coach him up a little bit?
And because there were some athletic traits there and some
some arm talent that obviously a lot of coaches over
the course of time became sorry, my dog is freaking out,
became enamored with uh geez, I hope that's not super low.
(15:29):
You know that that obviously, you know, kept him in
the league for a while and and and you know,
again there was there was certainly potential that coaches fell
in love with. But yeah, a horrible situation, a guy
who had an opportunity to meet a lot of people
in this league and and playing a bunch of different organizations,
(15:50):
and it's just obviously a sad, sad day.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Jason, back to the off season, as we have these
couple of weeks before you get to work in training camp. Uh,
is there going to be a class action hold out
by running backs across the league or it's going to
be alone?
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Yeah? Look, I really don't know what a group hold out,
you know what I mean, would would accomplish because their
individual and collective leverage is not very high. And it's
a sport of supply and demand, and it's a sport
that has become increasingly sort of I won't say run
(16:34):
by people who specialize in analytics and specialize in developing
and cultivating and figuring out you know, value. But there
is a big moneyball element to every professional sport at
this you know, at this juncture, as deep as we're
into this analytics revolution, and I don't know that there's
(16:56):
an outlier team out there that or teams if we're
talking collectives and you know three or four you know,
running backs, brothers and arms, we're all going to sit
out together. I just don't know what the end game
to that would be. It's just tough letting and no
matter even a Josh Jacobs who everything he accomplished in
(17:18):
terms of you know, yards scrimmage yards and what he
meant to that offense and what he can also help
you do in the passing game a little bit like,
I just don't think anybody's getting back to Christian McCaffrey
type levels, you know, let alone the kind of contract
that Adrian Peterson got, She's you know, I don't know
what was that twenty ten. It's just a different game
(17:43):
and they're not going to pay and I don't think
that's changing in the next six weeks, you know, between
now and the start of training camps are now and
the middle of the preseason. I just don't think anybody's
really going to budge and say that we think that
player puts us over the top. There's just been too
many instances of teams finding value in so many different ways.
(18:07):
And even just look at the team standing at the
top of the mountain right now, right they did it
at the end of the first round. They got a
lot of accolades for it, and it didn't pan out.
You know what I mean. They take this kid Pacheco
this year and he ends up being a real mainstay
in their offense, and he's you know, they've nothing invested
(18:31):
in him in terms of real capital, So I don't
think anything changes. I think, unfortunately, most of them have
to kind of go back with the tail between their
legs and end up eventually signing that franchise tender. I mean,
Leveon Bell did this, you know what I mean, even
before the pendulum had swung this much, and he got
good money out of the Jets, but he was out
(18:52):
of the league two years later, and he never got
anything close to the money he would have made in
the first three years of the contract that the Steelers
you know, offered him as an extra before he held out.
So I just think it, unfortunately, kind of is what
it is.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Jay. When it comes to Dalvin Cook, you know, one
of the running backs we reference, here's the Jets. Potentially
there's some interest. He's liking tweets the Jets are saying,
come play here. Yes, great, Miami now is interested in
Dalvin Cook. How's this going to end for him?
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Well, I mean, it's it's nice to be interested, but
like is there anybody out there who wants to pay
him anything close to what he's used to make, you know,
to be earning on a per year basis on the
contract extension he did with the Vikings. And the short
and long and obvious and clear answer to that is no,
(19:41):
or you know, the market would have formed. And if
you have two teams that really want you, then you
have a really good chance of getting somewhat close to
what you think you're worth. And that's not out there now,
and it very well may take injury or you know,
a team that thinks it's found its solution and in
the draft to find out that maybe they haven't. But again,
(20:04):
right now is really the only time that coaches and
gms get to kind of like log off and you know,
invest time and energy and their families and their lives
instead of their vocations. And if somebody really felt like
he was the difference in their season as presently constructed,
(20:26):
then this then this would have happened before everybody shut
it down and went on vacation, you know, and and
basically said see you in in late July. So I
again don't think this changes much unless the market changes.
There's teams that want him, but they want him at
a certain value, and there's a disconnect right now. And again,
(20:49):
maybe an injury, maybe some outside factor gets one of
these teams to all of a sudden jump up and say, yeah, yeah,
we really do like you significantly, significantly more than the
rest of these teams, and here's what we're willing to
put in front of you in terms of compensation. But
ultimately it may come down to him trying to find
the best fit and the best game with the best
(21:10):
offensive line and the best play caller to put him
in position to make money a year from now. As
much as that's a difficult situation for any running back to,
you know, that's not the crystal ball they want to
look into because they get hurt so much and because
now you're a year older, and yeah, all those market
forces still work against you. But people have known that
(21:30):
Dalvin cook future was over in Minnesota since pretty much
the end of last season. And who's clamoring, like, tell
me what what am I missing? Here? Where? What?
Speaker 4 (21:41):
What?
Speaker 3 (21:41):
What? What's happened? It seems to me nothing.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
Just a lot of time elapsed.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
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Speaker 3 (22:10):
Rightfully, his meds have kicked in. Yeah, there you go.
Respiratory infection.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
Oh wow, I'm sorry to hear that.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
These day to day is the day to day.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
It could be worth it could be day to day.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
No, trust me, he's yes, he's he's very much choppers
always day to day.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
All right, So let's go back to Nevada and New Orleans.
How many tissues did you need to get through? The
Derek Carr comments about how things ended in his tenureinators
because he would have played for free, you know.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Yeah, yeah, I don't love Come on, this guy's got
a little bit of Ben Roethlisberger in his game, you know,
the self myth mythologizing and thinking people are really, you know,
more caught up in your narratives than they really are.
Of course, he doesn't have anything close to Ben Roethlisberger's
back of the football card, you know, to back that up,
(22:59):
or to really think that people are as interested in
you as you think people should be. I think he's,
you know, a good quarterback who clearly has flaws, who's
never really been able to really get back to the
level he was at when he got hurt, you know
what I mean, under Jack del Rio and wasn't able
(23:19):
to you know, play down the stretch and in the playoffs.
And you know, that was a year when he was
at least on the periphery of the MVP conversation. And
that looks more like an outlier than than the norm.
And something's always off there. Things never quite get to
the level we think they will. And again, last year
really should have been no excuses. Time you got the
(23:41):
best back in the NFL. They went and got your
best buddy, you know what I mean, your college roommate,
arguably the best wide receiver in the NFL. You still
had Darren Waller at least to start, and you lost
your job, you know, to Jared's did him like that
because they wanted to dump your contracts so badly they
(24:02):
couldn't risk you getting hurt. Anymore. So I don't. I
don't look at that New Orleans team and say, oh, yeah,
this is you know, he's just been on. It's been marketing,
everything's worked against him, and woe is him, And now
finally this is going to be the Derek Carr redemption start.
I think he's put on the Dean declined for a while.
(24:23):
I think that team, you know, has its share of issues.
I really don't know who's any good in that division,
so maybe that helps him. But no, I don't think
you're going to see Derek Carr win a whole lot
of really meaningful football games this year. And I don't
think you're going to see Derek Carr back in New
Orleans next year.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
I mean, so we're are we going to get his
southern accent for one year, because you know the Southern
accent is going to be great. You know he's going
to get it for a year.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Yeah, Like I'm trying to think of like great forced
accents of all time. I remember when Brad Friedel you know,
left MLS and went over and started plying his trade
in the Premiership. He quickly adopted and you know, an
English accent. I think Madonna for a while right, sure
(25:10):
kind of relocated to London. She she kind of picked
one up or just foisted one upon us. Yeah, I
don't think this will rate up there with those. I
think this is going to be pretty quickly forgotten.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
He's on Twitter at Jason locking for that is at
Jason locking for a. Checkhim out on Odyssey watching the
posts as well. Jay has always buddy appreciated my friend.
We'll talk to you next week, my pleasure.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Gentlemen, have a good one.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Yeah, I really, because you know, maybe if he has
to go someplace else with a different accent. But I
really want to see the Cajun accent for Derek Carr
for a season or two.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
Well, I think you'll get it for at least a year.
I mean, we'll see how it develops.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Right, how clunky it is, you know how he drifts
in and out of it like so many actors. If
you really watch a movie, it's like I think I
think it drifted there while he was running, he tried
to talk and suddenly it was gone. You know, all
of those kind of things. So yeah, that's one of
our little side stories. You know, while watching the Jets fail.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
He just has stop. You mean fourteen and three.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
He almost slipped that pass there.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Just watch old tapes of Justin Wilson, right, the Cagun
you know the cage. Yeah, I am Papa on young Garlico.
That's what he's gotta say. Alvin Kamara when it cut, woo,
Michael Thomas, we got an all fans here, Chris Larvae woo.
And that's how you start, and then and then it
gets on from there. Just name all the players and
use that Cajun accent.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
I will say this from all the videos of everybody
telling me they're in the best shape of their lives.
Michael Thomas certainly has not had any ill effects to
his back, and he does not skip leg day with
what he's been pressing.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
So that's good. Now he just has to get on
the on the field.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Yeah, But just has anybody ever not been in the
greatest shape of their lives who comes in and says
and the cut, Hey what kind of yeah, you know,
not really great shape. I have really been trying. I've
got you know, I really need some time. Well no, no, no,
it's it's really worked myself into it.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
No, Jason Moore, it's the idea of when you've got
to put out the videos of you working out because
there had been questions about you the year before. In
Thomas's case, nobody knows where he's at in terms of
his physical and mentally, where he wants to be and
how he wants to be around. Uh, but I mean
(27:28):
Russell Wilson last week we saw, you know, doing those
slide drills or whatever else. What was the big shot
against him?
Speaker 5 (27:35):
Last year?
Speaker 4 (27:36):
He came into camp pudgy and entitled and whatever else.
And now Sean Payton's kick kicking his ass. So you know,
it's the look he's gonna be in great shape. And
all of a sudden, Denver, it's like they're, you know,
like an insider for the NBA telling you where someone's
gonna get drafted, trying to get you to lean.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
Your money that way or something like that.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Best shape of my Like what kind of shape you
at all? But I could in better shape like I've done.
I haven't done a lot, like I know when I
when I've been down, like like I noticed, like I
feel at my lower back now and yeah, I'm just
I stepped on the scale the other day while I'm
like ten pounds of it. Yeah I'm really not in
great shape. I'm really I'm gonna have a tough time
getting around, probably gonna get hurt a couple of times.
I don't know what my stamina is gonna be. So yeah,
(28:18):
don't count on me for a lot this year.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
Well, the follow up question is there what's been at
training table for you?
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Pizza and cheese burgers? And when I asked, was asked
what you want on top of my hot dog? I
said a hamburger. So that that's what I've been eating
for the last couple of days. That's my training table
for it, not a loaded Chicago dog. Now put a
burger on there. Thank you, chef, Thank you chef. Than Jef.
I gotta watch the I gotta watch the second season
(28:45):
of the Bear.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
Ah. There's like three episodes and they're gonna blow your mind.
Are you three?
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Do they keep saying, I've done, Jef, thank done, Thank
you chef, thank you. Everybody's chef now, thank you chef. Yeah,
well that was last year. Everybody was chef, thank you chef. Yes,
Jeff yea, even guys that aren't working in the kitchen chef.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
When I remember when I binge that a like for
like we watched all like in like five days. It
was so good, and I've been walking around like I
wanted to tell people just to like, you know, at
the car repair place or the supermarket, thank you chef.
Thank you chef, Thank you chef. I'm not going it, Yes,
thank you chef. I wanted to just keep saying thank
you chef. Everybody you should chef. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
Man, that's there's a lot of positivity. I mean, that
level of consistency to get folks fired up about the
jobs they're doing. And if they know they know, then
it takes it to a whole other level. But you know,
we should all have such respect and such paces in
our workplace.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
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the question you asked me last time. Uh, yes, Catherine
(30:11):
Zada Jones or Julia Roberts and Jean love.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
Well.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
I mean it was something he suggested in the Las
Vegas episode we spoke about yesterday. I'm just gonna channel
my inner d Drich Vader as Lawrence and say nope,
two chicks.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
And leave it.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Hey, Lawrence, you want to come over. No, Nike's man
to watch you messing up my life too.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
That's right, But.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
That's the It's an either or. You don't get you
don't get to choose both. It's an either or. It's
Catherine Zada, I don't play by your rules. That's what
that's the rules. When I when I give you a choice,
that's the rule. You can't just say no, I'm changing No.
When I give you a choice, like when you give
me a choice, Okay, that's the choice. I got a pick.
I can't change the rules.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
No, I'm gonna stick with Zada Jones. I mean the
continuing working with Notorious Chicago. I'm going with whichever way
the wind blows John Cusack is problematic. But between Chicago
and acting as Charlie in High Fidelity with Jack Black,
I mean that wins Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
No, because I know you're very anti John Cusack. You're
very You're very because of the sports thing. You're very
anti am I understand that.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
Well, he doesn't doesn't know whether he wants to be.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
He's trying to be the Chicago fan I know, right,
I tell you that's a myth, like the Yeddie like
he's running for office.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
What does it mean? You're not running for office now.
People aren't going to vote for you for something.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
Just say what fan you And even when you run
for office, you probably should know who some of the
best players of a team's history are before you do.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
Go do a Q and A on their their stadium walkways.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Well there's no crying in baseball, which we've known now
since the league of their own in Nice Surety one.
But now apparently there's no crying in football. Derek Carr,
uh Saints quarterback, when on the Jim Rome Show earlier
today and was asked about, Hey, could you have gone
back to the Raiders at some point when you know,
when things got really bad they benched him for the
last two games of the season. They started Jared Stidham,
(32:03):
and Derek Carr said all of that went out the
window when they made my wife cross. And now that
now was that, like were they making prank phone calls
and she couldn't take it anymore. No, it wasn't like
they were called gray. No, they would they would call
her up and go. And his name is John cenaunnha
(32:26):
uh No, raiders keep calling me with that John Cena
phone prank. I can't stand it. Likely it was how
the Raiders treated Derek Carr made his wife cry, and
he said, that's it. And when this story came out,
I saw so many people jumping up and down on
Derek Carr and just kicking him in the head and
(32:46):
the ribs and everything, I mean metaphorically on social media.
And I'm like, uh, none of these people are married,
none of these people have been understand that you're in
it with the other person no matter what, and if
something happens that upsets your significant other so badly, Yeah,
that's the kind of the person you have to listen to.
(33:07):
If you know they made my wife cry. I could
never go back after that because a my wife was
so incredibly mad at them, I couldn't do it. Or
they pissed me off so much because they made her
cry there's certain things that personally you can't get past that.
And this is not a guy who was, Hey, I'm
looking for my first break in the NFL, and I
don't know what's gonna happen. This is a guy who knew, Hey,
(33:29):
we don't need to go back there if we're that
upset and this makes you that upset. Now that you're
that upset, I'm that upset. Yeah, we don't need to
go back there at all. We can just turn the
page and go on. I completely get that, because your
significant other, it's who you're in it with, right, that's
the person you happen to need to be the most
beholden too, because that's the person that's gonna stay by
your side and see you through life. And if something
happens to upset them or it makes you met. Yeah,
(33:51):
I completely understand him saying I couldn't go back to
the Raiders after that.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
I mean, look, I'd love to hear what kind of
tales he was telling her out of class that would
get her to that level of agitation, et cetera.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
I mean, look, it is the Raiders. It could be
anything I mean.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
But that's what I mean.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Right, we have no idea.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
I mean, it could be any level of dysfunction through
his time there, but the writing was on the wall
in terms of the longevity, even bringing Devonte Adams in
that the likelihood of moving on and changing direction was there.
Nobody apprized it. They didn't watch what happened to so
many other quarterbacks here. I mean, did they get frozen
(34:32):
out of you know, whatever the couple's Halloween parties were
or whatever in season. I mean, I just I'm sorry
she was reduced to tears on stuff. But I mean, look,
nobody thought the Raiders ever did business well outside of
the Amy Trask era, and even then Al would come
over the top.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
And certainly now it's been a clown show for a
long time. Why what did you expect?
Speaker 1 (34:59):
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