June 7, 2022 • 37 mins
Welcome into The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon! Jason and Mike expected nothing less than the Warriors to win Game 2 against the Celtics but Draymond Green needs to have his priorities in order and Donovan Mitchell will be staying with the Jazz next season! Plus, Jason La Canfora - CBS Sports NFL Insider joins the guys!
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You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Greetings and welcome inside.
Happy Monday, The Jason Smith Show with my best friend
Mike Harmon, Live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios, where
Harmon's got a new cast on his arm. Tighten up
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because I got tired of you complaining and making fun
of me and mocking me for a thing that was
kind of unraveling right the latest edition of it. I
had it nice and tight, and then we were out
kicking soccer balls and crossbar challenge, and up it went
into a tree behind the net, so I had to go.
Eventually my hand did, which I caught a branch, screamed
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in pain, scared some peacocks, and then it unraveled a bit.
So I said, all right, let's before the show today,
let's let's clean that up. So now we cleaned it up,
and now it's nice and tight and almost in a
pre wrap form that I could fit a glove over it.
And then just bludging you, I'm hitting you over the head,
repeat it repeatedly. Let's see, let's see the pain threshold
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with this new rap uh big night. Tonight we had
a it's a day off, actually it's seven days off
before the next game in the NBA Finals is next Sunday,
so we have some time to break down what we
saw in Game two. But right now, Oiler's Avalanche three
one going to the third period, so the Oiler is
looking to try to extend this series. Meanwhile, most importantly,
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the Mets have the bases loaded with two outs here
at the top of the first thing against Blake Snell.
And this is the fun part about being in studio
every night, is no matter what, I can get the
Mets game in front of me. I didn't always get
that one. I'm at home right because, like you know,
trying to get But now I can get the Mets.
If he actually paid the money to MLB TV, you could. No,
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I can't. But I can't get it in the office
on the iPad where I'm I can't it's it's a
weird working. Yeah, it's not it's not working. It's some
text stuff. Yeah, or maybe or maybe it's just that challenge.
They said it was not connected to the app, is
not is connected to the TV, and it's it's a
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different router to connect it to the to the iPad
to bring it in another room. It was this weird thing,
and I'm like, so what what I don't understand. The
dumbest thing ever I don't understand. They go, yeah, um,
you need to talk to uh, you need to talk
to where your your cable coming. I'm like, okay, great,
So that doesn't make any you know, that was last week.
That was last week. So now I'm like, okay, well
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and you know, I just haven't made the phone call
the last time. Yeah. Well look I went to the
game on Saturday and he but nachos for the Mets.
It was awesome. You know what you did not sell
I should say you did not over sell the nachos.
I've never ordered them, I mean generally. And this is
where we get into all those wacky ballpark figures that
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people put up for what's the cause for an average
family of four? And I just gotta Chuck, I all right,
parking tickets, maybe a drink and a snack. That's all
we're getting. We normally eat before we go into a game,
so I've never experienced ballpark. The helmet nachos are the best.
They are the bad Dodgers helmet that might be worth
the bucks you paid for him. It was actually there
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were only twenty bucks. And you have a helmet, and
you have a helmet, if you didn't have such a
damn big head, you could wear. But here's the thing. There,
there's there's two kinds of people at the Dodger games. Right.
There's the dot. There's the fans who you know are
doing it for their kids that after they finished there
in the men's room washing the helmet out so the
kid can wear it. And then there's the kids. Like
I saw one kid had like twelve dirty helmets he
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was walking out with because people like, I'm not gonna
believe she's just walking out with a nuts. Clean them up,
shake them home, clean them up, sell them any even.
I'll tell you what. Alonso goes deepest first home run Saturday,
I'm eating helmet nachos with Zoe. I'm at the game.
I'm like this is that. My life is great, my
heart is full. It was awesome. I mean it was great.
The Mets home run party Saturday was awesome. But just
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having that they were convinced you were getting swept instead
you got split. I know it was nice. Huh hey metsio,
and now you sent set the Dodgers wheeling into Chicago
off day today, which means bars are open to four,
So good luck there. Uh. And then I got the
White Sox. We've been playing some really uneven baseball. Still wait,
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well they're still waiting on ted of their roster guys
to actually come back. Yeah, they're playing there, I think
they're playing. It is an interesting line to have a
field and one guy in the outfield. They kind of
just go, oh, it's a right hand hitter up and
I go to left field, left interrup and go to
right field. I've been told the reddits on White Sox
fandom after she releases the lineup really entertaining. Wait that
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guy's lead off, get it over with, get that first.
Jason Smith showing my carbon Happy Monday. So much fun
stuff to get to tonight. We got so many big
NFL stories, But um, let's deal with Game two of
the NBA Finals. Alright, Game two was a blowout by
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the Warriors, which listen, I told you on Friday, I
expect the war I picked Celtics in this series, but
I expect the Warriors to win Game two. It is
a game they absolutely had to have and the Celtics
had another crantastic third quarter. And Draymond Green is getting
a lot of credit for the attitude, the teeth, everything
he inspired defensively, he had a really good game, uh
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in Game two and not shy talking about it after.
Oh yeah, I listen, I was the reason why we won.
How far behind to I know that falls on me.
The physicality, that's my department. I have to make sure
I lead in that area and everyone else to follow.
So I wanted to come out physical from the make
sure guys knew that that's the intensity, that's the that's
the physicality level that we need to be out in
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order to win in the NBA Finals. And so I
just wanted to come out and lead by examples and
get a guy something to follow. All right. So with
that said, how concerned were you that they may have
given you a second technical when you and Jalen Brown
were down on the floor, not at all. I mean,
you said they treat you differently, that is, but it's
the NBA Finals. And you know, like I said, I
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wear my badge of honor. It's not that I'm saying
they't necessarily treat me different I've earned differential treatment and
I enjoyed that. I embraced that. But I'm never going
to let someone stand over me. I'm a man first,
my kids are in the stands. I don't I don't
play by it like those type of games, and so
whatever happens at that point happens. He went on to
say he gave the Warriors an attitude adjustment. Well, but
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he dared the NBA to throw him out right there
in the middle. In the middle of that. That was
the Robert Conrad battery ad from all those years ago,
where he put it on his shoulder and say I
are and actus off. That's what Draymond Green just did.
Like it's the NBA Finals, they're not. All of the
stuff he did was flat out of It was like
musing guys like they were blocking sleds. Oh, sure, I'll
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show every trick in the book. Look, and as we
always say on the show, you can't fall to good strategy. No,
and and this is what this is where I'm coming
from with this now, is that Draymond Green did everything
he had to do in game two to get the victory. Right.
He was terrific and he always took three shots. He
didn't take twelve shots. Whether he was whether he was um,
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whether it's his attitude, whether it was his inspiration. He
did everything he needed to do in game two. And
he mean, while he didn't take a lot of shots,
but he doesn't always have to know that. But that's better,
that's better for business. If the balls moving through his hands,
you know, he's rather than shooting. So when he had
twelve shots in game one, like, hey, you're the Celtics,
you know we're gonna do that. He did the Hey
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Marcus Smart, Al Horford and and Derek White, you know
they look what they did from three, not gonna do
it again. And then they only took like seven three
point shots between them. But for Draymond, I'm sure in
the Celtics locker rooms like, hey, he wants to take
twelve shots a game, including four threes, have at it. Yeah, Look,
he's not the guy that's gonna take threes and make
them like he did, uh, you know, like like like
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he did a three years ago right there, that once
in a while, he did a couple of big threes
in transition, which is part of when he would score
like twelve a game and not like three a game.
But here's the thing, And I don't think I'm asking
too much. I don't think this is a hot take,
and I don't think that, but you know, people are
gonna think differently. Hey Draymond, how about you do this
every bleeping game? Right? I mean seriously, it's like he's
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he's someone that knows when he doesn't play well, and
it's like he's not motivated enough to do this in
every game. Um it's the NBA Finals. Where were you?
In Game one? Where were you? He plays some games
like he is uninterested, And it's okay with him because
the next game he comes with the intensity and everything
else needed to be able to make plays in and
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he has no problem taking the credit when when he
does that, because he does he affects the game that way.
Not too much to ask, Hey Draymond, how about you
play every game that way? Like he because he's he's
I told you about that kid I played softball with
like fifteen years ago, who would just be helf fast
asleep during the game. But if you challenged him, he
would get up there and he would get a base hit,
and he would get to second and he would round third,
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be physical, and he would say just to show you
that he could be good when he wants to. I'm
not gonna do it all the time, but I'm gonna
show you how good because I think I look cool
when I show you. I don't have to be this good,
but I can show you on this good. That's kind
of what Draymond is. Listen, I don't have to be there,
but when I need to, I can show you on
this good. So you put some respect on my name. Now,
how about you doing every bleeping game at this point,
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it's the NBA Playoffs. How about you do it because
there's so many games where hey, where was Draymond in
this game? He's had He's had so many games over
the course of this this playoff. We talked about it
with Rick Buker where Draymond Green was just awful, Right,
He's just awful, and where is he? But then he
shows up for this game? Well, I knew I needed
to do this, No, you gotta play like this every game.
I don't think I'm asking too much for for Draymond
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to play like this every time he goes out, and
when it gets deep into the NBA plays, I get it.
During the regular season, you've done it a long time.
You're pacing yourself. But this is a time when every
game needs to be a Draymond Green day. But still, no,
I'm gonna pick my spots on. Really, I don't think
I'm asking too much for Draymond to play that way
because he can play that way. He can play that
way every single night. He can. It's just a curiosity,
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right in terms of pacing and process and games. You know,
in Game one, you saw a lot of open shots
and the Warriors would try to tell you to buy
design right the way Draymond immediately went out of hell
Al Horford right off of the opening tip to do
the tie up. And then you start going through the numbers,
just the aggressiveness just going after the basketball, you pick
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up the dribble, I'm coming at you. And Draymond was
the leader of that right So, and it's always curious
to me the psychological chess match that's going on in
terms of this, right lulling, he is a sleep kinda
like it's a boxing match. To take it into the
sporting realm, although you know chess is competitive, so you
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know you gotta have that that heart rate that stays level,
right so you don't get psyched out, kind of like
you're playing poker as well. So You've grabbed a lot
of games, which means I've grabbed all the audience right there.
Everybody's got one of those things that you're doing. But
we we look at the points off turnovers and just
fast hands, aggressiveness, forcing the issue, and the points in
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the paint domination. And so when we look at Draymond Green,
you know there's a lot of talking points that come
out of this. And and certainly he's he's gonna get
chesty because I think every positive play he does the
most muscular pose anymore and shows you the gun show.
So that's part of it. How he didn't get thrown
out because that has to be said at this point
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is embarrassing for the NBA, right And and like we say,
can't fall to good strategy and if there if you
can keep testing the boundaries, right, it's like with your
kids at home, the people that work with and for
you in whatever business you're in. It's the same thing.
All right. We got a little bit of freedom, all right,
let's see if we can make it a lot of freedom. Anyway,
Draymond Green as soon as he realized, wait, they didn't
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toss me for that. Okay, let's do it again. Let's
do it again, and let's push and let's now grab
this guy's shorts and let's do this and let's jaw
at the referee some more. It was embarrassing, right, And
I enjoy watching him play, right, He's crafty, and he
knows what he's doing, and he's the first to tell you,
and he's the first to tell you and that, and
you know, I'll appreciate him for that as well. But
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the reality is that, yeah, he got judged by a
different set of rules, and that the NBA perhaps thinking
if we kick him out here, things really go down.
He's just gonna he's just gonna complain. I don't want
to hear it. It's like, well, but begin whatever, what
can we do to go along? To get along? I
don't want to hear him, but don't right, but don't
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we officiate the finals and the for in the playoffs differently,
like all of those big thought pieces begin, It's like, no,
you acted like a jackass and you should have been
thrown out. It's like, no other ways, of course, but
I'm good, but I'm gonna go on the offensive. And
then it's gonna make it look like if they do
throw me out, that that they are picking on me.
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And meanwhile, part of it is just I just I
just don't want to I just don't want to deal
with this anymore. Can you just don't throw him out?
Just don't throw It's like making a trade with Fabiano
and Fantasy. It's like he just keeps emailing you and
texting you, and you finally just like, all right, I'll
make whatever horrible trade you want me to make. Just
stop texting iture. I told you to start doing that,
which I stopped Ricky Draft right now, that's what we
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Game by the Night. The Mets put up three in
the top of the first against the Padres. Here we go, yeah,
here we go, here we go. Very short slate in
Major League Baseball today, postponements, doubleheaders tomorrow. The game has
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rained out pretty crazy, right, yeah, we can't get a
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The best person to bring it is on the line
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has a lot in come with Jimmy Garoppolo. Both Jason
and Jimmy have been excused from forty Niners minicamp for
the summer, So congratulations, you got some time off. Um, yeah,
I don't think I'll be showing up in any subway,
though I'm like him, so he's got he's got more
going on in his spare time than me. That is
a curiosity, though, whenever he pops up in that ad,
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I'm always confused, Like you think, all right, here, I'm
gonna see more Matt Stafford, I'm gonna see some of
these other big swinging guys. And then there's Jimmy and
it's Capacola. It's Capacola. That's how you say it's Capacola. Yeah,
with his nana, and apparently they sort of infer sandwich
making is cooking, which I don't consider making, Like I
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don't consider putting a sandwich together. Calling their react now,
that's I think it depends how how much effort you're
putting into that sandwich. If it was a meatball marinara,
and you've made the meatball, some head or something I
could see. But but an Italian sub I don't know
that's not cooking, doesn't How does he know? How could
he not know that she doesn't cook? It's bizarre on
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that j Yeah, I don't know about that. I'm just
good for tweets, these days, maybe a couple characters. All right,
So hey, let's start here before we get into Aaron
Donald and pass that. You know, this whole garoppolo thing
with everything going on with you know, the Niners excuse
him form mini camp, and they still talk about trading him. Uh,
if wouldn't a team they know he's gonna be healthy
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at some point, he's gonna come back if they really
wanted to trade him, right, if they really wanted to
move on, they could have traded him by now. There's
a team that would have traded from saying hey, well
we'll be okay, we know he's coming back. We'll get
him for the summer. They could have moved him if
they really wanted to. I don't know, I don't know.
I mean it is it's it's surgery to a throwing shoulder,
and his his throwing program is not doesn't Actually I
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don't believe ramp up for another three weeks. So I
as much as okay, you'd like to have a ideally
and O t s, I'd be more worried about, you know,
what that thing looks like once he starts throwing, how
it's responding, what my medical people think of it, and
all that, especially when we're talking about I mean, look,
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it's not I was gonna say contract to that magnitude.
It's not crazy money but quarterback standards, but it's you know,
whatever dollars. So I don't know what the rush would be,
to be honest with you, I mean, other than you
really want him doing classroom work with you during O
t S. But I don't know. I mean, the setbacks
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do happen, Not everything goes as well as you would like,
and they may not be able to actually trade them
until The interesting thing would be, do they especially in
July where there's nothing going on in this league early July, Like,
do they allow him to sort of work out? I
guess that might be the way it goes, is he
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works out for the teams, you know, he grants permission,
and if he's okay with it, his doctor's okay with it,
his agents okay with that, he may have to throw
for that team because maybe you probably would like to
get it done before camp, you know, And I don't
think they really want him in camp, but who knows,
maybe does go down that way. Maybe he has to
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show a little something in camp, or show a little
something in the first preseason game before you know, before
an owner says, yeah, I'm going to assume that contract
so that the timing look when when it comes out
of the combine that he's having surgery on his throwing shoulder,
that's that's going to complicate things as we move forward.
The Los Angeles Rams, well, they got and they figured
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out what the price was for Aaron Donald to stop
chirping about retirement and being okay with it. Estimated three year,
ninety five million dollars now on the books, the highest
paid non quarterback. I had no doubts this was going
to get done, but I really want to see the books, Jason,
of how you move money around and keep everybody falling.
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Cat man, I'm just telling you it's a soft cat.
That's really soft cash. Trump's cap and when an owner
is willing to go too, you know, whatever means Nest
Sarry to keep the team together, it can and and
the players themselves are a little bit um malleable. And
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I don't mean in terms of taking less money, just
in how they get it. It's not rocket science. It's
not the league, dude. The league's got everybody full that
the salary cap is the boogeyman. This salary cap is
soft as Charman tissue. If you if you're willing to
put your wallet where your mouth is, and not everybody is.
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And some of the owners of reputation for being big
spenders because they did it in the past, just really
haven't been anymore. And look, we the Dallas Cowboys have
had an exodus account, have they not? Who has a
bigger brand than them? You know, who who has more
creature comforts than them? Who has more revenue streams from them?
But go look at Jerry Jones over the last decade,
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not not salary cap, actual spending cash on payroll. It's
not what a lot of people I think would assume.
Whereas right now you can look at three to five
owners who were way over the two eight million dollar cap. Mean,
last time I look the Browns prior to signing a Joke,
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who already had about two hundred extending in joke, already
had about two hundred and sixty million dollars and next
year's payroll. And again that's a cap of two or eight.
I mean, the rams are way up there, the bucks
are way up there. It can be done, but they
want you to think it's harder than it really is
because it keeps us talking about bs. Fake monopoly money
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is like cap numbers and cap space, where it can
all be changed in an instant with the stroke of
a pen. How do you how do you do it?
You buy your way out of it by continuing to
throw more money at your payroll. And then you'd have
GMS and some team presidents preaching to you. But all
well or dark gasl card that credit card, Bill roll
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carb do and Bill be so screwed. Well, yeah, and
they might have a couple of you know, celebrations and
uh and ring ceremonies before they get there. Jason Locking
for our guest to Jason Smith grow with Mike Harmon
live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. All right, outside
of this, we get to another day. You know, we
had this conversation last week about, you know, all the
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big work the Browns did on DeShawn Watson, a twenty
four woman has now filed a lawsuit against him, and
you know, now it's laughful to talk about the Browns
and the work they did on him. But I'm looking
ahead with this, Jay. This story is not going anywhere. Obviously,
we can see it, and we're getting more more women involved. Here.
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We talked about potentially in eight games suspension for him,
He could you know, bargain it down to six, Could
he get the whole season? Could the NFL be ratcheting
things up now? Well, I think he could be suspended
in definitely, or he could be he could just be
paid placed on the commissioners example list, which would only
cost him that pro rated one million dollars salary while
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he's on it, and definitely while the league continues to
gather information. I mean, and I just find a little
laughable that I'm old enough to remember two weeks ago
where Goodell has to meet the media because it's an
owners meeting, and he always talks too an owner's meeting,
and he sort of gives this non answer answer about
we're getting close to them our investigation, and I'm reading
all these stories about well, they're going to make a decision.
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They're never making a freaking decision until they have to
because of what's known here, which is this individual was
capable of some incredibly troubling behavioral patterns. He's he's he's
he's clearly guilty of having a decision making process in
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regards to how he's handling certain parts of his personal
life that's absolutely broken. And I'm not saying this from
morality standpoint or whatever. I'm saying this degree of accusations
and someone who repeatedly was going out of his way
to initiate these types of sequences and situations where he
would be putting his potentially career reputation, earning potential in
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the balance in seeking out right. And that's not even
disputed because we've already seen some of the d M
seeking out these encounters where it's he is is vulnerable
to um accusations, and then what's known of what he's
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actually you know, some of the apologetic text and etcetera.
Just what we're known to exist, and knowing that we're
not at this point anywhere close to having clarity with
all these standing UM civil cases because he has yet
to resolve any of them, and now being down to
I don't know, five weeks before training camps open or whatever,
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six weeks like, No, they're not going to weigh in
until they have to. And if it's if twenty three
women have said this happened to me, then why who
knows that what number this actually did stop? In terms
of just the setting up these massages that um, you know,
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according to again, at least twenty four women now were
accompanied by Deshaun Watson, um having in many instances that
you know, they're alleging a criminal activity. So no, this
was never close to being wrapped up. No, the league
was never in any rush to make any sort of rulings. Know,
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anyone who's paid any attention shouldn't be surprised that the
scope of this keeps expanding. And um, whatever work the
Cleveland Browns did, and I'm using air quotes there, uh,
it didn't involve a behavioral scientist. It didn't involve a psychologist,
a psychiatrist, or any of the above. So I don't
really know what the hell work they actually did. So Brissette,
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Dobbs or is Baker Mayfield back under center? Uh? Well,
but you're not gonna be able to crack glass and
bring in Baker Mayfield. No, I mean it's gonna be
like Jacobe Brissette. It's gonna be playing a lot football
for them. Well, I see a lot of football. I
don't think the cob can get through a seventeen game season.
That offensive line is not quite what it used to be.
I mean, you know they're going to run the ball.
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But when you don't have a mobile quarterback and you
don't have the thread of option football, um, and you
don't have to feel like you have to defend the
deep ball, then it makes that running game get constricted
right away. So now I think the Cleveland Browns are
in Um, I think they're in trouble. Jason Locking for
our guest here on Fox Sports Radio. J So, uh, lastly,
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I want to I want to bring this up to
you because you know it's it's now We're gonna have
this every week now once again where Patriots and all
their fans and the media want Mac Jones to be
Tom Brady apparently this this this, uh, that's this point.
Now he's so far ahead of he was last year
and and and when it comes to the leadership and yeah,
I mean, I mean, isn't that what you expect at
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this time of year for all young quarterbacks? I guess,
but I don't know. I see Zach Zack Wilson's already
catching some shrapnel, So I don't know, UM, what you
hope for? I had to get that. Look. I think
I think the Patriots are a team that is in
for regression. They were regressing even last season, in the
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year in which they surprised some people to do what
they did. But I think losing like Josh McDaniels for
Matt Patricia is not a win. It's not a win
for that offense. It's not a win for them schematically,
it's not a win for them in game decision making.
It's not a win for them halftime adjustments. It's not
a win for mac Jones. UM and sort of the
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lack of conviction behind this whole plan as well, I
think UM is fairly telling. So now I think that's
a team that UM is going to struggle this year.
I don't see enough transcended talent, and I think offensively, UM,
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it's it's got a chance to be pretty sort of mundane,
pretty yeah. Yeah. But but at least JA we have
the first time we've ever had an offensive coordinator derby
in training camp. We've never had. We get quarterback derbies
all the time. Remember the Miami Dolphins not wanting to
know what's a Belichick disciple trying to play three card
money about who's calling plays this week and who's really
(27:18):
scheming it up. And you know, if you've got two
offensive coordinators, you've got none, So no, I kind of
think I have seen this before and it didn't go
so well. He's on Twitter at Jason lock and for
that is at Jason Locke and for for all your
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seven j as always, Buddy, appreciated, my friend. We'll talk
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to you soon. Have a great week, gentleman, Appreciate your
great visit. There. From Jason locking forward there it is
Jacoby Brissette's gonna play a lot of football for the
Browns this year. Because that's the one thing about this
is that you know, we can, we can debate and
we will. The Browns completely butchering this and now they
got to own the fact that they they're they're the
biggest train wreck in the NFL. Congratulations, But with more
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of these stories keep coming out, this is not going
to be where Deshaun Watson's gonna play football soon. And
and you know, maybe it was gonna be eight games
to six. Now it's got to be the season. I mean,
when it comes down to it and they have to
make a decision, he's got to he has to be
able to sit for the season. It's got it's got
to be something where hey, this has some teeth to
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it because more women are coming. This is twenty four
women now, you know. And you can sit here and say, oh,
it's a money grap. This is too high profile for
a money grap. Now, it's too high profile for money grap. Right, Well,
here's the thing, and we've talked about it all the
way through from one to twenty two and now up
to twenty four, and we'll we'll talk about this as
the show goes on, and for the detail, but you
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to try to say that there was some kind of
scheme with all these stories and then the details today
we can't even read this stuff on air, right, that's
there's FCC compliancy all over the allegations and and the
level of details there. But to say that it was
a money grab, okay, if it's one to right, you
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start thinking about conspiracies and can you get a couple
of folks to tell a story. You get to the twenties,
I'm finding it hard to believe there's not more to it.
And I think for the Browns what they would argue
is and just two quick points for the Browns are
gonna say, well, we we did the due diligence on
the criminal side to try to back away a little bit.
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And for the NFL, what would be curious is if
you do go to the year now you have a
big fight with the Players Association and the c b
A because that was all put in at six games
with the player conduct policy. So that would be another
unraveling of that. Could could be a Trevor Bauer. You're
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gonna live on the Commissioner's exempt list when we have
to do And that's the other I lived on it
for a long time. Example list is sitting there, which
we're I don't know that we're ever really sure what
constitutes the grounds to get there, but it's but it's
an option. It's a list. I'm gonna put you on
the list. Wait to list. This is just gonna be
awful for the shield of the NFL, which is why
Deshaun Watson playing football sometime soon, it's not gonna happen.
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game at five apiece. This game is drunk. I'll side
there it goes. Edmonton Oilers are the most exciting team
in any playoffs this this time. I mean easily. There's
no team more exciting than the Oilers any series. They
play in the series with the Flames, this series with Colorado,
even though it's three zip, they are so bleep and exciting. Man,
this is so much fun. Well, it's been great watching
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in the in the midst of all of this, right,
this is the type of year, the type of year
with hockey and basketball memorabilia, big auctions. So there's been
a bunch of the old gamer stuff from Wayne Gretzky's
era and all those Edmonton teams, and now obviously the
Grail cards in many products are McDavid's, so trying to
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bridge that gap, and certainly hockey always trying to find
new superstars. They've got a couple in this series. You
mentioned McKinnon before. So you get games like this, eyeballs
start to pop and people start tuning in as those
alerts hit their phones. It's a basketball on tonight, No hockey. Alright, baby,
Charles will talk. Okay, maybe I'll he's a huge hockey fans.
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Maybe Charles and Draymond will getting out of each other
in between periods. I'll turn on to watch. But that's
where it's at right now on t N t F five.
It looks like we're going to overtime now. Speaking of
the NBA, we have a couple of nights off here
before we get to Game three, and there's a lot
of drama surrounding Donovan Mitchell as Quinn Snyder stepped down
as Jazz head coach, something that Donovan Mitchell was not
(32:16):
happy about. He supposedly is lost and forlorn and doesn't
know where to go because he loves Quinn Snyder. And
oh my goodness, what do I do now? And everybody
is jumping up and down, going the next, the next,
all he's gonna go. Donovan Mitchell is gonna go. Now
he's gone, man, his coach is gone. He's gonna go.
He's gonna go. Uh, just stop for one second, Okay.
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The only way Donovan Mitchell goes anywhere is if he
goes Scorched Earth and says, I want out. This is untenable.
And I can't believe that other stars don't realize that
that this is how you do it. It's a horrible
way to go. But I gotta be honest, right, I'm
not gonna lie to you. If he goes Scorched Earth
and says I can't play here anymore the situation is untenable,
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then he'll get out. You gotta go, James Harden. You
saw James hard to do it. He wind up getting
to the nets and now he's on another team. But uh,
you gotta go Scorched Earth. So how is this gonna solve? Yeah,
somebody's gonna get traded, and it's gonna be Rudy Gobert.
All right, it's the off season is gonna come and
it's gonna be Dwyane Wade and and and everybody in
the in the jazz organization saying Donovan, please stay, what
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do you want? They're gonna hire the head coach he wants.
They're gonna do everything to cater to Donovan Mitchell because
they have to. The only way they're getting a superstar
in Utah is in the draft. No one's gonna go
there is a free agent. No one's gonna say, I
want a team up there. Hey, they had Rudy Gobert,
but Rudy Gobert is a big man, and he's gonna
be thirty, and he can't get along with with Donovan Mitchell.
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This is a guard league, it's not a big league anymore.
And and Mitchell is five years younger. So yeah, they're
gonna capitulate to Donovan Mitchell. And Rudy Gobert is going
to be the guy that gets traded. So when it's
all said and done, unless Mitchell go scorched Earth, which
apparently he's not going to do, it's gonna be Gobert gone.
Mitchell's got the contract, he's gonna wind up staying in Utah.
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Already seen a lot of reports of potential trade opportunities
for Gobert to Chicago. That seems to be the not
just a fictional one, not just the local wishing, wanting,
hoping for more out of the big men UH in Chicago,
but the idea that they'd move around assets to make
that happen. So UH four years left very sizeable contract
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left for Rudy Gobert, But it would seem to be
the obvious choice if you're gonna have to split those
two guys up. Now, what it's really like versus what
gets projected in the media. We can only speculate right
as to how well or poorly they get along, whether
it is truly untenable, well, something's got something also has
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to change because this is not a team that's not
progressing at best. But that's just it. Right. Do you
look at their contracts and say, okay, with those two guys,
what could we do working around them? Or is it
best to just separate them all together? And I would
say the ladder probably the more likely just to go
as you on how many teams are going to change
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what they do to accommodate and include a Rudy Gobert. Right,
if you have a center and the not that the
center position is as robust as it once was, but
you know you're also looking at where's where that fit
is for your style of play. Yeah, he's he's someone
that teams will want. Don't get me wrong. Teams are
gonna want Rudy Gobert because he's that missing piece defensively.
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All right, great competitive teams are gonna want him. But
he's the guy that's gonna get traded because of the
position he plays and because he's five years older. I mean,
that's just how it's gonna go. They'll be able to
get a good deal for him from somewhere, and it
might not be a package that right away is going
to mean, hey, the Jazz jump up in the Western Conference,
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But whether it's draft picks or assets, it will be
pretty soon it will be pretty easy for them to
move on from Gobert and go forward. Said, all right,
this is how we're gonna replace him. We're gonna reinvent
this team a different way around. Donovan Mitchell may not
be in this offseason, but they'll get the assets. They'll
be able to do it, because you've got to be
able to trade for somebody to reply list that you're
only getting somebody in the draft, right, so you'll be
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able to trade for somebody have the assets to move,
and it's maybe trade, go bet and then somewhere else
for somebody else that needs to come and and get
out of the situation they were in. So it's it's
it's there for the Utah Jazz to do. It's just
not gonna be Donovan Mitchell. It's just not Yeah. Because
the Bulls ran with Bussovich and he was a seventeen
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point six and eleven boards a game, but all the
other advanced metrics, their offense bogged down a bit. So
the curiosity of how much you shift out of that
and what Gobert brains, certainly defensively is the big win.
But for Utah looks like a complete overhaul, realizing they've
gone as far as they can with the current structure.
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And then just bludging you, I'm hitting you over the head,
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with this new rap uh big night. Tonight we had
a it's a day off, actually it's seven days off
before the next game in the NBA Finals is next Sunday,
so we have some time to break down what we
saw in Game two. But right now, Oiler's Avalanche three
one going to the third period, so the Oiler is
looking to try to extend this series. Meanwhile, most importantly,
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the Mets have the bases loaded with two outs here
at the top of the first thing against Blake Snell.
And this is the fun part about being in studio
every night, is no matter what, I can get the
Mets game in front of me. I didn't always get
that one. I'm at home right because, like you know,
trying to get But now I can get the Mets.
If he actually paid the money to MLB TV, you could. No,
(02:12):
I can't. But I can't get it in the office
on the iPad where I'm I can't it's it's a
weird working. Yeah, it's not it's not working. It's some
text stuff. Yeah, or maybe or maybe it's just that challenge.
They said it was not connected to the app, is
not is connected to the TV, and it's it's a
(02:33):
different router to connect it to the to the iPad
to bring it in another room. It was this weird thing,
and I'm like, so what what I don't understand. The
dumbest thing ever I don't understand. They go, yeah, um,
you need to talk to uh, you need to talk
to where your your cable coming. I'm like, okay, great,
So that doesn't make any you know, that was last week.
That was last week. So now I'm like, okay, well
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and you know, I just haven't made the phone call
the last time. Yeah. Well look I went to the
game on Saturday and he but nachos for the Mets.
It was awesome. You know what you did not sell
I should say you did not over sell the nachos.
I've never ordered them, I mean generally. And this is
where we get into all those wacky ballpark figures that
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people put up for what's the cause for an average
family of four? And I just gotta Chuck, I all right,
parking tickets, maybe a drink and a snack. That's all
we're getting. We normally eat before we go into a game,
so I've never experienced ballpark. The helmet nachos are the best.
They are the bad Dodgers helmet that might be worth
the bucks you paid for him. It was actually there
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were only twenty bucks. And you have a helmet, and
you have a helmet, if you didn't have such a
damn big head, you could wear. But here's the thing. There,
there's there's two kinds of people at the Dodger games. Right.
There's the dot. There's the fans who you know are
doing it for their kids that after they finished there
in the men's room washing the helmet out so the
kid can wear it. And then there's the kids. Like
I saw one kid had like twelve dirty helmets he
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was walking out with because people like, I'm not gonna
believe she's just walking out with a nuts. Clean them up,
shake them home, clean them up, sell them any even.
I'll tell you what. Alonso goes deepest first home run Saturday,
I'm eating helmet nachos with Zoe. I'm at the game.
I'm like this is that. My life is great, my
heart is full. It was awesome. I mean it was great.
The Mets home run party Saturday was awesome. But just
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having that they were convinced you were getting swept instead
you got split. I know it was nice. Huh hey metsio,
and now you sent set the Dodgers wheeling into Chicago
off day today, which means bars are open to four,
So good luck there. Uh. And then I got the
White Sox. We've been playing some really uneven baseball. Still wait,
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well they're still waiting on ted of their roster guys
to actually come back. Yeah, they're playing there, I think
they're playing. It is an interesting line to have a
field and one guy in the outfield. They kind of
just go, oh, it's a right hand hitter up and
I go to left field, left interrup and go to
right field. I've been told the reddits on White Sox
fandom after she releases the lineup really entertaining. Wait that
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guy's lead off, get it over with, get that first.
Jason Smith showing my carbon Happy Monday. So much fun
stuff to get to tonight. We got so many big
NFL stories, But um, let's deal with Game two of
the NBA Finals. Alright, Game two was a blowout by
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the Warriors, which listen, I told you on Friday, I
expect the war I picked Celtics in this series, but
I expect the Warriors to win Game two. It is
a game they absolutely had to have and the Celtics
had another crantastic third quarter. And Draymond Green is getting
a lot of credit for the attitude, the teeth, everything
he inspired defensively, he had a really good game, uh
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in Game two and not shy talking about it after.
Oh yeah, I listen, I was the reason why we won.
How far behind to I know that falls on me.
The physicality, that's my department. I have to make sure
I lead in that area and everyone else to follow.
So I wanted to come out physical from the make
sure guys knew that that's the intensity, that's the that's
the physicality level that we need to be out in
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order to win in the NBA Finals. And so I
just wanted to come out and lead by examples and
get a guy something to follow. All right. So with
that said, how concerned were you that they may have
given you a second technical when you and Jalen Brown
were down on the floor, not at all. I mean,
you said they treat you differently, that is, but it's
the NBA Finals. And you know, like I said, I
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wear my badge of honor. It's not that I'm saying
they't necessarily treat me different I've earned differential treatment and
I enjoyed that. I embraced that. But I'm never going
to let someone stand over me. I'm a man first,
my kids are in the stands. I don't I don't
play by it like those type of games, and so
whatever happens at that point happens. He went on to
say he gave the Warriors an attitude adjustment. Well, but
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he dared the NBA to throw him out right there
in the middle. In the middle of that. That was
the Robert Conrad battery ad from all those years ago,
where he put it on his shoulder and say I
are and actus off. That's what Draymond Green just did.
Like it's the NBA Finals, they're not. All of the
stuff he did was flat out of It was like
musing guys like they were blocking sleds. Oh, sure, I'll
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show every trick in the book. Look, and as we
always say on the show, you can't fall to good strategy. No,
and and this is what this is where I'm coming
from with this now, is that Draymond Green did everything
he had to do in game two to get the victory. Right.
He was terrific and he always took three shots. He
didn't take twelve shots. Whether he was whether he was um,
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whether it's his attitude, whether it was his inspiration. He
did everything he needed to do in game two. And
he mean, while he didn't take a lot of shots,
but he doesn't always have to know that. But that's better,
that's better for business. If the balls moving through his hands,
you know, he's rather than shooting. So when he had
twelve shots in game one, like, hey, you're the Celtics,
you know we're gonna do that. He did the Hey
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Marcus Smart, Al Horford and and Derek White, you know
they look what they did from three, not gonna do
it again. And then they only took like seven three
point shots between them. But for Draymond, I'm sure in
the Celtics locker rooms like, hey, he wants to take
twelve shots a game, including four threes, have at it. Yeah, Look,
he's not the guy that's gonna take threes and make
them like he did, uh, you know, like like like
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he did a three years ago right there, that once
in a while, he did a couple of big threes
in transition, which is part of when he would score
like twelve a game and not like three a game.
But here's the thing, And I don't think I'm asking
too much. I don't think this is a hot take,
and I don't think that, but you know, people are
gonna think differently. Hey Draymond, how about you do this
every bleeping game? Right? I mean seriously, it's like he's
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he's someone that knows when he doesn't play well, and
it's like he's not motivated enough to do this in
every game. Um it's the NBA Finals. Where were you?
In Game one? Where were you? He plays some games
like he is uninterested, And it's okay with him because
the next game he comes with the intensity and everything
else needed to be able to make plays in and
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he has no problem taking the credit when when he
does that, because he does he affects the game that way.
Not too much to ask, Hey Draymond, how about you
play every game that way? Like he because he's he's
I told you about that kid I played softball with
like fifteen years ago, who would just be helf fast
asleep during the game. But if you challenged him, he
would get up there and he would get a base hit,
and he would get to second and he would round third,
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be physical, and he would say just to show you
that he could be good when he wants to. I'm
not gonna do it all the time, but I'm gonna
show you how good because I think I look cool
when I show you. I don't have to be this good,
but I can show you on this good. That's kind
of what Draymond is. Listen, I don't have to be there,
but when I need to, I can show you on
this good. So you put some respect on my name. Now,
how about you doing every bleeping game at this point,
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it's the NBA Playoffs. How about you do it because
there's so many games where hey, where was Draymond in
this game? He's had He's had so many games over
the course of this this playoff. We talked about it
with Rick Buker where Draymond Green was just awful, Right,
He's just awful, and where is he? But then he
shows up for this game? Well, I knew I needed
to do this, No, you gotta play like this every game.
I don't think I'm asking too much for for Draymond
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to play like this every time he goes out, and
when it gets deep into the NBA plays, I get it.
During the regular season, you've done it a long time.
You're pacing yourself. But this is a time when every
game needs to be a Draymond Green day. But still, no,
I'm gonna pick my spots on. Really, I don't think
I'm asking too much for Draymond to play that way
because he can play that way. He can play that
way every single night. He can. It's just a curiosity,
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right in terms of pacing and process and games. You know,
in Game one, you saw a lot of open shots
and the Warriors would try to tell you to buy
design right the way Draymond immediately went out of hell
Al Horford right off of the opening tip to do
the tie up. And then you start going through the numbers,
just the aggressiveness just going after the basketball, you pick
(10:45):
up the dribble, I'm coming at you. And Draymond was
the leader of that right So, and it's always curious
to me the psychological chess match that's going on in
terms of this, right lulling, he is a sleep kinda
like it's a boxing match. To take it into the
sporting realm, although you know chess is competitive, so you
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know you gotta have that that heart rate that stays level,
right so you don't get psyched out, kind of like
you're playing poker as well. So You've grabbed a lot
of games, which means I've grabbed all the audience right there.
Everybody's got one of those things that you're doing. But
we we look at the points off turnovers and just
fast hands, aggressiveness, forcing the issue, and the points in
(11:29):
the paint domination. And so when we look at Draymond Green,
you know there's a lot of talking points that come
out of this. And and certainly he's he's gonna get
chesty because I think every positive play he does the
most muscular pose anymore and shows you the gun show.
So that's part of it. How he didn't get thrown
out because that has to be said at this point
(11:51):
is embarrassing for the NBA, right And and like we say,
can't fall to good strategy and if there if you
can keep testing the boundaries, right, it's like with your
kids at home, the people that work with and for
you in whatever business you're in. It's the same thing.
All right. We got a little bit of freedom, all right,
let's see if we can make it a lot of freedom. Anyway,
Draymond Green as soon as he realized, wait, they didn't
(12:14):
toss me for that. Okay, let's do it again. Let's
do it again, and let's push and let's now grab
this guy's shorts and let's do this and let's jaw
at the referee some more. It was embarrassing, right, And
I enjoy watching him play, right, He's crafty, and he
knows what he's doing, and he's the first to tell you,
and he's the first to tell you and that, and
you know, I'll appreciate him for that as well. But
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the reality is that, yeah, he got judged by a
different set of rules, and that the NBA perhaps thinking
if we kick him out here, things really go down.
He's just gonna he's just gonna complain. I don't want
to hear it. It's like, well, but begin whatever, what
can we do to go along? To get along? I
don't want to hear him, but don't right, but don't
(12:56):
we officiate the finals and the for in the playoffs differently,
like all of those big thought pieces begin, It's like, no,
you acted like a jackass and you should have been
thrown out. It's like, no other ways, of course, but
I'm good, but I'm gonna go on the offensive. And
then it's gonna make it look like if they do
throw me out, that that they are picking on me.
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And meanwhile, part of it is just I just I
just don't want to I just don't want to deal
with this anymore. Can you just don't throw him out?
Just don't throw It's like making a trade with Fabiano
and Fantasy. It's like he just keeps emailing you and
texting you, and you finally just like, all right, I'll
make whatever horrible trade you want me to make. Just
stop texting iture. I told you to start doing that,
which I stopped Ricky Draft right now, that's what we
(13:38):
need to do. If we could break him down the
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the top of the first against the Padres. Here we go, yeah,
here we go, here we go. Very short slate in
Major League Baseball today, postponements, doubleheaders tomorrow. The game has
(14:24):
rained out pretty crazy, right, yeah, we can't get a
drop over here in Southern California. Just like the song,
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(14:45):
has a lot in come with Jimmy Garoppolo. Both Jason
and Jimmy have been excused from forty Niners minicamp for
the summer, So congratulations, you got some time off. Um, yeah,
I don't think I'll be showing up in any subway,
though I'm like him, so he's got he's got more
going on in his spare time than me. That is
a curiosity, though, whenever he pops up in that ad,
(15:08):
I'm always confused, Like you think, all right, here, I'm
gonna see more Matt Stafford, I'm gonna see some of
these other big swinging guys. And then there's Jimmy and
it's Capacola. It's Capacola. That's how you say it's Capacola. Yeah,
with his nana, and apparently they sort of infer sandwich
making is cooking, which I don't consider making, Like I
(15:29):
don't consider putting a sandwich together. Calling their react now,
that's I think it depends how how much effort you're
putting into that sandwich. If it was a meatball marinara,
and you've made the meatball, some head or something I
could see. But but an Italian sub I don't know
that's not cooking, doesn't How does he know? How could
he not know that she doesn't cook? It's bizarre on
(15:54):
that j Yeah, I don't know about that. I'm just
good for tweets, these days, maybe a couple characters. All right,
So hey, let's start here before we get into Aaron
Donald and pass that. You know, this whole garoppolo thing
with everything going on with you know, the Niners excuse
him form mini camp, and they still talk about trading him. Uh,
if wouldn't a team they know he's gonna be healthy
(16:16):
at some point, he's gonna come back if they really
wanted to trade him, right, if they really wanted to
move on, they could have traded him by now. There's
a team that would have traded from saying hey, well
we'll be okay, we know he's coming back. We'll get
him for the summer. They could have moved him if
they really wanted to. I don't know, I don't know.
I mean it is it's it's surgery to a throwing shoulder,
and his his throwing program is not doesn't Actually I
(16:39):
don't believe ramp up for another three weeks. So I
as much as okay, you'd like to have a ideally
and O t s, I'd be more worried about, you know,
what that thing looks like once he starts throwing, how
it's responding, what my medical people think of it, and
all that, especially when we're talking about I mean, look,
(17:00):
it's not I was gonna say contract to that magnitude.
It's not crazy money but quarterback standards, but it's you know,
whatever dollars. So I don't know what the rush would be,
to be honest with you, I mean, other than you
really want him doing classroom work with you during O
t S. But I don't know. I mean, the setbacks
(17:21):
do happen, Not everything goes as well as you would like,
and they may not be able to actually trade them
until The interesting thing would be, do they especially in
July where there's nothing going on in this league early July, Like,
do they allow him to sort of work out? I
guess that might be the way it goes, is he
(17:42):
works out for the teams, you know, he grants permission,
and if he's okay with it, his doctor's okay with it,
his agents okay with that, he may have to throw
for that team because maybe you probably would like to
get it done before camp, you know, And I don't
think they really want him in camp, but who knows,
maybe does go down that way. Maybe he has to
(18:03):
show a little something in camp, or show a little
something in the first preseason game before you know, before
an owner says, yeah, I'm going to assume that contract
so that the timing look when when it comes out
of the combine that he's having surgery on his throwing shoulder,
that's that's going to complicate things as we move forward.
The Los Angeles Rams, well, they got and they figured
(18:27):
out what the price was for Aaron Donald to stop
chirping about retirement and being okay with it. Estimated three year,
ninety five million dollars now on the books, the highest
paid non quarterback. I had no doubts this was going
to get done, but I really want to see the books, Jason,
of how you move money around and keep everybody falling.
(18:47):
Cat man, I'm just telling you it's a soft cat.
That's really soft cash. Trump's cap and when an owner
is willing to go too, you know, whatever means Nest
Sarry to keep the team together, it can and and
the players themselves are a little bit um malleable. And
(19:07):
I don't mean in terms of taking less money, just
in how they get it. It's not rocket science. It's
not the league, dude. The league's got everybody full that
the salary cap is the boogeyman. This salary cap is
soft as Charman tissue. If you if you're willing to
put your wallet where your mouth is, and not everybody is.
(19:30):
And some of the owners of reputation for being big
spenders because they did it in the past, just really
haven't been anymore. And look, we the Dallas Cowboys have
had an exodus account, have they not? Who has a
bigger brand than them? You know, who who has more
creature comforts than them? Who has more revenue streams from them?
But go look at Jerry Jones over the last decade,
(19:51):
not not salary cap, actual spending cash on payroll. It's
not what a lot of people I think would assume.
Whereas right now you can look at three to five
owners who were way over the two eight million dollar cap. Mean,
last time I look the Browns prior to signing a Joke,
(20:12):
who already had about two hundred extending in joke, already
had about two hundred and sixty million dollars and next
year's payroll. And again that's a cap of two or eight.
I mean, the rams are way up there, the bucks
are way up there. It can be done, but they
want you to think it's harder than it really is
because it keeps us talking about bs. Fake monopoly money
(20:34):
is like cap numbers and cap space, where it can
all be changed in an instant with the stroke of
a pen. How do you how do you do it?
You buy your way out of it by continuing to
throw more money at your payroll. And then you'd have
GMS and some team presidents preaching to you. But all
well or dark gasl card that credit card, Bill roll
(20:54):
carb do and Bill be so screwed. Well, yeah, and
they might have a couple of you know, celebrations and
uh and ring ceremonies before they get there. Jason Locking
for our guest to Jason Smith grow with Mike Harmon
live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. All right, outside
of this, we get to another day. You know, we
had this conversation last week about, you know, all the
(21:14):
big work the Browns did on DeShawn Watson, a twenty
four woman has now filed a lawsuit against him, and
you know, now it's laughful to talk about the Browns
and the work they did on him. But I'm looking
ahead with this, Jay. This story is not going anywhere. Obviously,
we can see it, and we're getting more more women involved. Here.
(21:36):
We talked about potentially in eight games suspension for him,
He could you know, bargain it down to six, Could
he get the whole season? Could the NFL be ratcheting
things up now? Well, I think he could be suspended
in definitely, or he could be he could just be
paid placed on the commissioners example list, which would only
cost him that pro rated one million dollars salary while
(21:56):
he's on it, and definitely while the league continues to
gather information. I mean, and I just find a little
laughable that I'm old enough to remember two weeks ago
where Goodell has to meet the media because it's an
owners meeting, and he always talks too an owner's meeting,
and he sort of gives this non answer answer about
we're getting close to them our investigation, and I'm reading
all these stories about well, they're going to make a decision.
(22:16):
They're never making a freaking decision until they have to
because of what's known here, which is this individual was
capable of some incredibly troubling behavioral patterns. He's he's he's
he's clearly guilty of having a decision making process in
(22:36):
regards to how he's handling certain parts of his personal
life that's absolutely broken. And I'm not saying this from
morality standpoint or whatever. I'm saying this degree of accusations
and someone who repeatedly was going out of his way
to initiate these types of sequences and situations where he
would be putting his potentially career reputation, earning potential in
(23:03):
the balance in seeking out right. And that's not even
disputed because we've already seen some of the d M
seeking out these encounters where it's he is is vulnerable
to um accusations, and then what's known of what he's
(23:23):
actually you know, some of the apologetic text and etcetera.
Just what we're known to exist, and knowing that we're
not at this point anywhere close to having clarity with
all these standing UM civil cases because he has yet
to resolve any of them, and now being down to
I don't know, five weeks before training camps open or whatever,
(23:45):
six weeks like, No, they're not going to weigh in
until they have to. And if it's if twenty three
women have said this happened to me, then why who
knows that what number this actually did stop? In terms
of just the setting up these massages that um, you know,
(24:05):
according to again, at least twenty four women now were
accompanied by Deshaun Watson, um having in many instances that
you know, they're alleging a criminal activity. So no, this
was never close to being wrapped up. No, the league
was never in any rush to make any sort of rulings. Know,
(24:27):
anyone who's paid any attention shouldn't be surprised that the
scope of this keeps expanding. And um, whatever work the
Cleveland Browns did, and I'm using air quotes there, uh,
it didn't involve a behavioral scientist. It didn't involve a psychologist,
a psychiatrist, or any of the above. So I don't
really know what the hell work they actually did. So Brissette,
(24:48):
Dobbs or is Baker Mayfield back under center? Uh? Well,
but you're not gonna be able to crack glass and
bring in Baker Mayfield. No, I mean it's gonna be
like Jacobe Brissette. It's gonna be playing a lot football
for them. Well, I see a lot of football. I
don't think the cob can get through a seventeen game season.
That offensive line is not quite what it used to be.
I mean, you know they're going to run the ball.
(25:10):
But when you don't have a mobile quarterback and you
don't have the thread of option football, um, and you
don't have to feel like you have to defend the
deep ball, then it makes that running game get constricted
right away. So now I think the Cleveland Browns are
in Um, I think they're in trouble. Jason Locking for
our guest here on Fox Sports Radio. J So, uh, lastly,
(25:30):
I want to I want to bring this up to
you because you know it's it's now We're gonna have
this every week now once again where Patriots and all
their fans and the media want Mac Jones to be
Tom Brady apparently this this this, uh, that's this point.
Now he's so far ahead of he was last year
and and and when it comes to the leadership and yeah,
I mean, I mean, isn't that what you expect at
(25:50):
this time of year for all young quarterbacks? I guess,
but I don't know. I see Zach Zack Wilson's already
catching some shrapnel, So I don't know, UM, what you
hope for? I had to get that. Look. I think
I think the Patriots are a team that is in
for regression. They were regressing even last season, in the
(26:13):
year in which they surprised some people to do what
they did. But I think losing like Josh McDaniels for
Matt Patricia is not a win. It's not a win
for that offense. It's not a win for them schematically,
it's not a win for them in game decision making.
It's not a win for them halftime adjustments. It's not
a win for mac Jones. UM and sort of the
(26:35):
lack of conviction behind this whole plan as well, I
think UM is fairly telling. So now I think that's
a team that UM is going to struggle this year.
I don't see enough transcended talent, and I think offensively, UM,
(26:56):
it's it's got a chance to be pretty sort of mundane,
pretty yeah. Yeah. But but at least JA we have
the first time we've ever had an offensive coordinator derby
in training camp. We've never had. We get quarterback derbies
all the time. Remember the Miami Dolphins not wanting to
know what's a Belichick disciple trying to play three card
money about who's calling plays this week and who's really
(27:18):
scheming it up. And you know, if you've got two
offensive coordinators, you've got none, So no, I kind of
think I have seen this before and it didn't go
so well. He's on Twitter at Jason lock and for
that is at Jason Locke and for for all your
NFL and trading card needs, he is there for you
seven j as always, Buddy, appreciated, my friend. We'll talk
(27:39):
to you soon. Have a great week, gentleman, Appreciate your
great visit. There. From Jason locking forward there it is
Jacoby Brissette's gonna play a lot of football for the
Browns this year. Because that's the one thing about this
is that you know, we can, we can debate and
we will. The Browns completely butchering this and now they
got to own the fact that they they're they're the
biggest train wreck in the NFL. Congratulations, But with more
(28:00):
of these stories keep coming out, this is not going
to be where Deshaun Watson's gonna play football soon. And
and you know, maybe it was gonna be eight games
to six. Now it's got to be the season. I mean,
when it comes down to it and they have to
make a decision, he's got to he has to be
able to sit for the season. It's got it's got
to be something where hey, this has some teeth to
(28:20):
it because more women are coming. This is twenty four
women now, you know. And you can sit here and say, oh,
it's a money grap. This is too high profile for
a money grap. Now, it's too high profile for money grap. Right, Well,
here's the thing, and we've talked about it all the
way through from one to twenty two and now up
to twenty four, and we'll we'll talk about this as
the show goes on, and for the detail, but you
(28:42):
to try to say that there was some kind of
scheme with all these stories and then the details today
we can't even read this stuff on air, right, that's
there's FCC compliancy all over the allegations and and the
level of details there. But to say that it was
a money grab, okay, if it's one to right, you
(29:03):
start thinking about conspiracies and can you get a couple
of folks to tell a story. You get to the twenties,
I'm finding it hard to believe there's not more to it.
And I think for the Browns what they would argue
is and just two quick points for the Browns are
gonna say, well, we we did the due diligence on
the criminal side to try to back away a little bit.
(29:23):
And for the NFL, what would be curious is if
you do go to the year now you have a
big fight with the Players Association and the c b
A because that was all put in at six games
with the player conduct policy. So that would be another
unraveling of that. Could could be a Trevor Bauer. You're
(29:44):
gonna live on the Commissioner's exempt list when we have
to do And that's the other I lived on it
for a long time. Example list is sitting there, which
we're I don't know that we're ever really sure what
constitutes the grounds to get there, but it's but it's
an option. It's a list. I'm gonna put you on
the list. Wait to list. This is just gonna be
awful for the shield of the NFL, which is why
Deshaun Watson playing football sometime soon, it's not gonna happen.
(30:07):
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(30:52):
game at five apiece. This game is drunk. I'll side
there it goes. Edmonton Oilers are the most exciting team
in any playoffs this this time. I mean easily. There's
no team more exciting than the Oilers any series. They
play in the series with the Flames, this series with Colorado,
even though it's three zip, they are so bleep and exciting. Man,
this is so much fun. Well, it's been great watching
(31:12):
in the in the midst of all of this, right,
this is the type of year, the type of year
with hockey and basketball memorabilia, big auctions. So there's been
a bunch of the old gamer stuff from Wayne Gretzky's
era and all those Edmonton teams, and now obviously the
Grail cards in many products are McDavid's, so trying to
(31:33):
bridge that gap, and certainly hockey always trying to find
new superstars. They've got a couple in this series. You
mentioned McKinnon before. So you get games like this, eyeballs
start to pop and people start tuning in as those
alerts hit their phones. It's a basketball on tonight, No hockey. Alright, baby,
Charles will talk. Okay, maybe I'll he's a huge hockey fans.
(31:54):
Maybe Charles and Draymond will getting out of each other
in between periods. I'll turn on to watch. But that's
where it's at right now on t N t F five.
It looks like we're going to overtime now. Speaking of
the NBA, we have a couple of nights off here
before we get to Game three, and there's a lot
of drama surrounding Donovan Mitchell as Quinn Snyder stepped down
as Jazz head coach, something that Donovan Mitchell was not
(32:16):
happy about. He supposedly is lost and forlorn and doesn't
know where to go because he loves Quinn Snyder. And
oh my goodness, what do I do now? And everybody
is jumping up and down, going the next, the next,
all he's gonna go. Donovan Mitchell is gonna go. Now
he's gone, man, his coach is gone. He's gonna go.
He's gonna go. Uh, just stop for one second, Okay.
(32:36):
The only way Donovan Mitchell goes anywhere is if he
goes Scorched Earth and says, I want out. This is untenable.
And I can't believe that other stars don't realize that
that this is how you do it. It's a horrible
way to go. But I gotta be honest, right, I'm
not gonna lie to you. If he goes Scorched Earth
and says I can't play here anymore the situation is untenable,
(32:57):
then he'll get out. You gotta go, James Harden. You
saw James hard to do it. He wind up getting
to the nets and now he's on another team. But uh,
you gotta go Scorched Earth. So how is this gonna solve? Yeah,
somebody's gonna get traded, and it's gonna be Rudy Gobert.
All right, it's the off season is gonna come and
it's gonna be Dwyane Wade and and and everybody in
the in the jazz organization saying Donovan, please stay, what
(33:20):
do you want? They're gonna hire the head coach he wants.
They're gonna do everything to cater to Donovan Mitchell because
they have to. The only way they're getting a superstar
in Utah is in the draft. No one's gonna go
there is a free agent. No one's gonna say, I
want a team up there. Hey, they had Rudy Gobert,
but Rudy Gobert is a big man, and he's gonna
be thirty, and he can't get along with with Donovan Mitchell.
(33:41):
This is a guard league, it's not a big league anymore.
And and Mitchell is five years younger. So yeah, they're
gonna capitulate to Donovan Mitchell. And Rudy Gobert is going
to be the guy that gets traded. So when it's
all said and done, unless Mitchell go scorched Earth, which
apparently he's not going to do, it's gonna be Gobert gone.
Mitchell's got the contract, he's gonna wind up staying in Utah.
(34:02):
Already seen a lot of reports of potential trade opportunities
for Gobert to Chicago. That seems to be the not
just a fictional one, not just the local wishing, wanting,
hoping for more out of the big men UH in Chicago,
but the idea that they'd move around assets to make
that happen. So UH four years left very sizeable contract
(34:27):
left for Rudy Gobert, But it would seem to be
the obvious choice if you're gonna have to split those
two guys up. Now, what it's really like versus what
gets projected in the media. We can only speculate right
as to how well or poorly they get along, whether
it is truly untenable, well, something's got something also has
(34:47):
to change because this is not a team that's not
progressing at best. But that's just it. Right. Do you
look at their contracts and say, okay, with those two guys,
what could we do working around them? Or is it
best to just separate them all together? And I would
say the ladder probably the more likely just to go
as you on how many teams are going to change
(35:08):
what they do to accommodate and include a Rudy Gobert. Right,
if you have a center and the not that the
center position is as robust as it once was, but
you know you're also looking at where's where that fit
is for your style of play. Yeah, he's he's someone
that teams will want. Don't get me wrong. Teams are
gonna want Rudy Gobert because he's that missing piece defensively.
(35:32):
All right, great competitive teams are gonna want him. But
he's the guy that's gonna get traded because of the
position he plays and because he's five years older. I mean,
that's just how it's gonna go. They'll be able to
get a good deal for him from somewhere, and it
might not be a package that right away is going
to mean, hey, the Jazz jump up in the Western Conference,
(35:52):
But whether it's draft picks or assets, it will be
pretty soon it will be pretty easy for them to
move on from Gobert and go forward. Said, all right,
this is how we're gonna replace him. We're gonna reinvent
this team a different way around. Donovan Mitchell may not
be in this offseason, but they'll get the assets. They'll
be able to do it, because you've got to be
able to trade for somebody to reply list that you're
only getting somebody in the draft, right, so you'll be
(36:14):
able to trade for somebody have the assets to move,
and it's maybe trade, go bet and then somewhere else
for somebody else that needs to come and and get
out of the situation they were in. So it's it's
it's there for the Utah Jazz to do. It's just
not gonna be Donovan Mitchell. It's just not Yeah. Because
the Bulls ran with Bussovich and he was a seventeen
(36:34):
point six and eleven boards a game, but all the
other advanced metrics, their offense bogged down a bit. So
the curiosity of how much you shift out of that
and what Gobert brains, certainly defensively is the big win.
But for Utah looks like a complete overhaul, realizing they've
gone as far as they can with the current structure.
(36:54):
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