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Jason Smith & Mike Harmon talk about why Jimmy Butler is not feeling the joy with his team.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
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(00:52):
a chance to take our breath from the college football
bowl system. Everything is fine. We do have one bowl
game on right now, the Dukes may We do Duke's
Mayo Bowl.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
I've never had Duke's brand mayo.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Uh, I never have. It's a it's I think it's
a South thing.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
It's tangy and zesty and has some other kind of
flavor to it.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Probably if you said to me sight unseen. I don't
know why I would do this because I'm not like
a taster. You said sight unseen. What would Duke's Mayo
taste like. I would say it tastes like miracle whip.
That would be my guest. I don't know, because you know, Mayo,
you gotta kind of do something, do it to to
kind of stand out as Mayo?

Speaker 3 (01:30):
Do you do you? I think I feel the need
to buy a jar for next week so we can
try it. Okay, i'd begin you could order one on Amazon,
and that's what I'm gonna do.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
You're gonna do it right.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
Now because I gotta replace the headphones that went walking,
so I gotta do that too.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
You're gonna wait, someone stole your headphones?

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Yes, studio? No good, Really, I don't know what someone
stole your.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
Head I could. I could do this now, I can
investigate and find out who did it. Done.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
Yeah, No, I don't know either that or I left
him somewhere. No no, no, no, don't order headphones anyway. Listen,
here's how I do it, because I know how to
do it. I'll do it just like they did every
episode of NYPD Blue. I'll pinpoint who my whom I
think the the perpetrator is. I'll let them lie to me.
Then I'll bully them a little bit and they'll confess.
And that's every NYP and I will find it.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
Well, he got the.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
First lights that go on that are pretty brightened here,
so we can put them under the heat lamps.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
No, no, no, no, first, get the needle. I need to
I just need to talk to Tyshirt. That's the he
knows everything that goes. He's the only I need to
talk to him, and that's it, and he'll tell me.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
No, I'm not making an accusation. I'm just saying I
have not been able to find them. No, no, no,
but there here somewhere.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
You just said the headphones that went walking. That doesn't
mean I lost them. That means somewhat stole my headphones.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
Dunt dunt m just saying they're not here. Yeah, yeah,
it's kind of crazy, but yeah, I will order some
mayonnaise the case.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
Of the stolen heades. It's like a Hardy Boys Mike
Harmon in the case of the stolen.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
Hardy Boys mystery. Now now you're talking. Now we're going
old school here.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
Frank and Joe try to find Mike Harbin, betther.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
A hair of Parker Stephenson or what there you go,
old guy reference every.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah you got it, dude, I don't know that, Jen
X remembers Parker Stevenson. I mean you got, you got,
you gotta get, you gotta get boring.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
Man.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
He's one of the hardy boys. He was married to
Kirsty Ally And that was Parker Stevenson. There you go.
I just summed up the guy's career in four seconds.
That was Parker Stephens. That was really well done by
Sean Cassidy. Would take me a little bit longer, Run Run,
Run It Guy. In the seventies, became a TV producer,
produced American Gothic six seconds for Yeah, Yeah, it was

(03:48):
like that was like his baby. I think American Gothic
was his baby. About that he loosed Gary Cole on
the world before he became Bill Lumberg.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
The night Stalker.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Yeah, oh no, no, Bill Lumbert. He was a bad
due Gary Cole bad. He was the bad guy in
Bad Guy and also look also getting their start that's
a big TV show because getting their starts in those
shows Gary Cole, Uh, Lucas black Right and uh, What's
her name from Ocean's eight. I can't. I could see

(04:18):
her right now now. She's she's, she goes, she's, she's
did she lives with she Daves Holland Taylor Uh, Sarah
paul Sarah Paulson. There you go, Ye, there you go.
All got their start in American Gothic.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
How about that?

Speaker 1 (04:30):
That was the show was like six episodes in like
the nineties. But anyway, so that's where we are. The
Duke's Mayo bawl. Now before we get to the NBA.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
I mean, we did have that Texas Bowl earlier, so
that was good.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Yeah we did, but but I mean, come on, the
Texas Ball what was it? North Texas and Texas State.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
But you know what was great, though, is you eventually
got to the point where they had to say famous
alumni and your stone cold Steve Austin up on the screen.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
I thought, they're gonna do famous alumni Sindbad and Kathy
Ireland and Scott Bakula.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
All coached by Robert Loja.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Let's go, let's go back and take a look. And
when Kathy Ireland beat Texas with this big field goal
back in nineteen ninety one.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
The Armadillos let's go.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Robert Loja. When the play wouldn't work, he would just
rip it out of the playbook in front. We're never
calling that again. He would just rip it and throw
it away.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
Robert Loja.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
But look, there's a big thing here, because now we
take our we take a pause. Obviously, you know the
Duke's Mayo Bowl where you look at the game and
you think LSU is in the Mayo Bolt nol, it's Minnesota.
But wait a minute, but Virginia Tech. No, no, no,
Virginia Tech is wearing their uniforms which look like Minnesota's uniforms.
Minnesota is wearing LSU uniform Is.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
It the screaming Eagles? As coach Hayden fox out there
it works, Luther.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
Is that now that we have seen the playoff get
to the final four? Right? Because here's where we would
normally be if we were just getting to the playoff now, right,
who are the four teams in? And I think all
of the controversy surrounding this, of the seedings weren't right,
and the home games are a much bigger deal, and
twelve teams might be too many, and do we let

(05:58):
all the right teams in? All of that is a
load of crap. And you know why, because the main
reason we have the playoff. We're doing the playoff like
this is because we want to make sure the top
five or six teams are in the playoff. Right because
every year, hey, you talk about top four, you get
a team left out that could easily be one of
the top four teams in the country.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
Right.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Look, Florida State went undefeated last year and they didn't
get in because their quarterback got hurt. Right, was that right? No,
not at all. They won thirteen games, they were third.
Now they got beat in the bowl game, but it
doesn't matter. They did everything they wanted. The main purpose
of this is to make sure that we get the
top five or six teams into the playoff. And that's
what we have and that's why this is a success.

(06:39):
You can argue about teams twelve and eleven, it doesn't matter.
That's irrelevant. It's fun for It's just like the NCACATE tournament.
It's fun for a day, but then we get to
the games and then okay, then the snubs don't matter
and we don't sit back and look at them anymore.
And that's what this was. Because you look at where
we're at right now, who is in the final four?
When you talk about the top twenty five rankings, the

(07:00):
number three, four, five, and six team in the country
are all in. And I think that is that is
the poster statement for the college football playoffs. You want
to make sure the best five or six teams get
in because those are the teams that are above everybody else.
And what happened The top two teams number one and
number two lost, but we got three, four, five six in.
It's not like, hey, teams were a rank eleventh and
fourteenth and no, you got three, four, five six in.

(07:22):
This shows you the playoff works. It's fine. You see
the television ratings, the way college football is taken over
the sports menu over the course of the past couple
of weeks. With the playoff, everything works. Everything is great.
We can debate and want to complain and moan about
oh should this team be it? And look at this
and all those teams losing, It doesn't matter. There is
unprecedented attention on college football, and in the end, you're

(07:46):
letting the right teams in. As long as the top
five or six get in. The last three or four
I don't care about because you can argue you could
have put three of those teams in. We saw the
way they played, you could have knocked them out and
put in Syracuse. And you could have put in another
team for the Big Ten. You could have you could
have done a lot of things right. You could have
put All Miss in right the way they played, right,

(08:06):
come on, we were great. But you could have put
other three loss teams in All Miss Syracuse, whatever was
and and the playoff would have been fine. But but
what they needed to do and what they need to
accomplish was all right, nobody's getting snub that can win
the national championship. And God bless you. If you're a
team that's a twelve seed and you win your way
all the way up, Hey, you know what, you win
the championship. So it's fun to complain. A look at

(08:27):
these seeds. But in the end, what do we have.
We have four of the top six seeds and a
one and two lost. Right, it's pretty exciting, right, We
got one and two losing and we got three, three, four, five,
and six in the AP top twenty five. Everything has
worked out great. This college football Playoff is a tremendous success.
No matter how you cut it.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
Up well, even going back to the beginning, when we're
arguing about who's in who's out. That's a win for
college football in the middle of an NFL season because
normally the bulls would get announced and the playoffs got announced.
And yes, last year we got the outrage from Florida State,
but you could make the argument, much like you could
have done with Georgia looking at You're not that you're

(09:04):
gonna leave them out obviously for what they did all year,
but when we talk about seating and pushing things forward,
there was no back, so you get into those kind
of discussions about where they should have been, and seating
will be a topic of conversation going forward. Because we
had the Rose Bowl in Oregon in Ohio State, and

(09:24):
even before the game's kicked off, it was well is
it right? Is it right? Full Sam Kennison back to
school kind of moment. But all of it to say,
we've argued about everything, We've marveled at the great performances,
and we've excoriated those who fail. It's worked out exactly
as you want, and in the end, they are teams

(09:44):
that still have respect, grandeur, the pageantry, the fan bases
everything to keep your money machine rolling and interest at
a sky high level. Right for Texas, we're still talking about, Hey,
which quarterback is going to be sitting around? Is yours
gonna even be there? Who's the mystery six million dollar team?
All of these storylines and more. They give us so

(10:07):
much time and time again, and then we get down
to it. To your point, if a twelve or eleven
seed or whoever's on that back end suddenly goes on
a monumental run, then we all win, Right, we all
win because it's now gonna bring in the folks who
like absolute chaos and otherwise couldn't care less about college
football because everybody wants to see institutions burn. We thought

(10:31):
we'd do it all the time. Anything that becomes a
monolithic structure. People want to take their whack at it
with the twenty pounds sledge like they're at a carnival.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
That's what we do.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
We all want to do it, and we get to
do it through the power of the microphones and the
Fox Sports Radio network. Everybody else does it around their
office place or to make conversation and keep it, you know,
to where it can still be quasi civil at the
you know, holiday holiday holiday tables. It all worked out beautifully,
and there's still a lot of hate watching to do

(11:03):
based on the fan bases. Whether you like their fans
or the teams that are still playing here, all four
have plenty of reasons for you to wag your finger
at them for past transgressions, annoying fan bases, and their
historic failures on grand stages. It's ripe for us to

(11:24):
have so much more fun with the four deams remaining,
and it's already been one hell of a party. We
got to say scataboo nine thousand times yesterday.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
Satao stataboo. Will you do the fan bango? I've been
saying that all day. I've been saying that all day.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
Just punch you in the head.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
No, because well, here's the thing, and you say it's
fun for everybody, all right, and it's and the one
person that this playoff is not fun for is my wife.
It is not fun for being a Michigan fan. Who
are the teams that are left?

Speaker 3 (11:52):
Yeah, I get it, I get it right.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
Three three of the biggest, she goes. The only thing
that could be worse is if Michigan State was in
instead of Texas.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
Hey, Madge K. Johnson reportedly is going to spend every
last dollar he has to make it a contender.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
She said to me, and I said, look look at
it this way, right, because you know it's awful for you. Right,
it's awful because you're talking about the biggest rival in
Ohio state. You're talking have another biggest rival in Notre Dame. Right,
you're talking about another huge rival at bed State. Yeah,
you're all in on Texas. I said, Now, don't ask
me if I think Texas is gonna win, because you're
not gonna like the answer. But look at it this way, right.

(12:25):
How did I look at the Super Bowl when the
Giants and the Patriots were in it? And she said,
I don't know. I wasn't paying attention. I said, okay,
here's how I look at it. I said, I looked
at it as Okay, this is gonna suck because no
matter who wins, one of my biggest rivals, I gotta watch, right,
the Patriots are gonna win or the Giants are gonna win. Right,
this was awful. Now in the end, I said, eh,
if I'm sitting here rooting, who would i'd rather see win?

(12:46):
I've seen the Patriots win five super Bowls already, so
what's a big deal for another one? Right? If I
could see the Giants win again, that would be worse.
I realized, Okay, I'm sort of pulling for the pain,
which is sounded weird, but that's what it is. But
I look at it this way, look at it instead.
Look at this way. Is that you know for sure
two of those three teams that you don't like are
gonna lose.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
Just look at it this way.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
You know two of those teams are gonna not be
celebrating and being really really upset. And I know she's
hoping for the much.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
She's hoping that it's Ohio State, like that's.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
The one she wants. But I said, just understand that
two of those no matter what happen, worst case scenario,
worst case scenario, two of those rivals are gonna lose,
whether it's Penn State, Notre Dame, Notre Dame, and two
of those teams are gonna lose. And you you know,
at the end, maybe one of those teams, one of
the teams you're not gonna have a choice, is gonna
win and win them. But just know that of the
three teams, two of them are gonna lose. You're not

(13:37):
having You're gonna have a six sixty seven winning percentage
on seeing your rivals lose and leave with a dejected
reason as they walk off that field. So two of
those six sixty seven winning percentage on this.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
You're so much nicer than I would have been. It's
like you won last year. Your team's been mid for decades.
Be quiet?

Speaker 1 (13:57):
Well no, I said that.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
Well, okay, I'm not gonna say that to my wife
and fluffier language.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
You wouldn't you would, you wouldn't be.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
I went for the concise argument.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
Yeah, quite, No, I did with the hey, you won
the championship last year. She said, yeah, but yeah, And
I think a lot of it is the frustration that's
seeing the way Michigan closed the season by beating Ohio
State and and and and beating Alabama. If we had
just had a bleeping quarterback man, this season could have
been different. It would have been way different. But again again,

(14:31):
it's the biggest mystery in college football. Yes, it's great,
they got price onto it. They flipped it from LSU.
How you come into this season with a seventh year senior,
a fifth year walk on, and a gadget guy and
that your.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
The title run like they were hiding from people.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
Look I them. People went away from it and then
came back and said, wait, this is who Michigan's quarterbacks are.
But like, how the hell did this happened?

Speaker 3 (14:52):
I remember, like I told you, a lot of negative
recruiting can have been out there. You know they're gonna
get the death penalty, right, you know. You know they're
to be on probation, They're not gonna be able to
go to a bowl game or any of that.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
Worry about it. Uh, hey, Wade, I just watched them
beat Ohio, So yeah, it doesn't matter. It's irrelevant. Worry
about it. It doesn't count. It doesn't count, It makes
no different, doesn't count. So that's what I would have been.
I mean that, that's the way I told her to
look at it, and hopefully she sees it more of
a sunny side up thing. I'm singing Eyes of Texas
as I walk around the house during the day, so
hopefully that puts her in a bit of a in
a bit of a.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
But what's the go to? Can you can? I mean,
you go flowers, you go chocolate sandwiches? I mean, what,
what's the key to Pam's heart here to get her
through these next couple of weeks. That'll be better.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
I think it is. It is an unexpected, unexpected decision
of an unexpected initiative that takes care of something that
she had on her to do list.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
Okay, all of a sudden, I comeback, that'll make it better.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Yeah, well I did give her the glug that you
made last night. She was very big fan of that.
She didn't chuck it like Frostburg did when when when
he brought it to him. But no, she was a
big fan. But like if I come up, like if
she's I gotta make sure, I gotta, I gotta get
up to the mall and I gotta buy this for
you know, a like a present for one of Zoe's
friends for a birthday. Like if I said, oh no,
I took care of that, when did it yesterday? That
that would be all Okay, that's.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
You're almost there, my friend. When when Zoe's gonna be
able to drive herself and you don't have to do
that crap anymore. Yeah, it's coming. It's kind You're going
to be sad that it's gone to a degree, and
then you're gonna be happy on the other side, going yeah,
I can still sit here and play with the dog
and watch TV.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Go ahead, that's gonna work. So anyway. So so that's
everybody is happy. Except but here's how you be happy.
Just to understand that some of your rivals are not
going to win and and just celebrate that.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
Well, it's like Sunday, right, I got Lions and Vikings.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
I wanted.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
I wanted to be a tie.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
Yeah, he's not gonna happen. Yeah, And I really like that.
It would be good for me.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
I mean, they're both getting in, so I mean, it's
not like, you know, getting the playoffs not you know, yeah,
but suddenly.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
I don't know one one one seed path may be
easier and better and than the other.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Anyway, Exit out bout a Fresca, Exit Swollen Dome. The
Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmon live from the Ti
rack dot Com studios. Coming up. Hey, We're gonna hit
you with all our big playoff predictions in the AFC
and NFC this weekend. Who's gonna wind up with those
final seeds? Where are they gonna be? We'll give you
our fearless predictions as well as a big developing NBA story.

(17:22):
It looks like a superstar is out there for the taking.
If you want to make a trade, that's coming up
next right here. Happy Friday, Jason and Mike. This hey,
and Happy Friday to you, Pam. Even though your rivals
are gonna play again in a week, I Pam, it
is Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
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Speaker 1 (17:48):
Fox Sports Radio. The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon Homebout live from Thetirack dot Com studios,
and we'll take you through a really big story out
of the NFL coming up in a second. But we
said it last night. It's coming true. It's why we
call the show ahead of the curve. Last night, when

(18:09):
Jimmy Butler decided, I'm gonna get a little extemporaneous at
my postgame press conference and make sure everybody knows how
unhappy I am here in Miami. Oh, I'm happy off
the court. I'm just not happy on the court. Can
you ever find that joy back, Jimmy, Jimmy said no, Jimmy,
Jimmy played good. Jimmy. Jimmy said, no, can't get the

(18:31):
joy back. We told you last night. He's played his
last game for the Miami Heat after that kind of insult.
Can't play. He's gonna be sat down until they trade him.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
You know.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
I thought about it a lot last night after we
finished up and did the IU Watch Flex podcast. I
was driving home and thinking about the Jimmy Butler thinks
some more. Because he's always been one of my favorite guys.
I don't have any joy playing. I didn't know whether
to feel sad or mad at him, because you always can, like, look,
no matter how bad things are in the outside world,
what do we always do when when it comes to uh, say,

(19:02):
our show and many other folks, right, you go to
work and you still find some pleasure, some joy, some respite.
He's even said he even said he can't find he
can't find joy is He said, I can't find That's
what I mean, Like, I'm disappointed that he that it's
gotten so bad he can't even find joy, Like he's

(19:23):
got his eyes.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
Closed watching inside out. I can't find joy. I don't
know where joy is.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
I'm sadness sadness take over, yeah, or the the other
emo things of this one?

Speaker 1 (19:34):
What was the new one? That? That was the second one?

Speaker 3 (19:36):
And and yeah they had a bunch of like odd balls.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
Oh okay, yeah, cause I didn't see it. I know
it good. How could you say it's good? You don't
remember what the new what the new addition?

Speaker 3 (19:48):
I saw it a long time ago.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
But the new emotion is euphemisms? No, I mean, like,
I like, what is it? If it's that good, it
had to be a very memorable character.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
There were it was anxiety, embarrassment, envy and.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
On wei on wei. Okay, all right, very nice on
we correct I think you did. Yeah, everybody it's e
n n U. I yes, so everybody knows it's it's
oh that word. I understand the.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
Feeling of weariness and dissatisfaction, you know, kind of where
we're at with Jimmy Butler right now.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
Because I was gonna say, you know what when I
when I when the story broke last night, I said, yeah,
that's Jimmy right like that. That wasn't I wasn't surprised.
I wasn't. I don't think I was weary. I guess
I was more more like yeah, well, we've seen this before. Okay,
but now he's gonna get traded. Right now, you've crossed
that rubicon when you say I can no longer find

(20:42):
joy with this team. And of course you crossed rubicon
when you're thirty five years old. You're no longer the
best player on the team. And we told you last night,
somebody's gonna get in, and they're gonna get in on him,
because the one we know in basketball is that superstars
who get disenfranchised with their franchise raculously find a way
to turn it around and play great when they get

(21:03):
a new setting. Right. We've seen it with James Harden,
we saw it with Chris Paul. We've seen it with
a lot of guys like yeah, I'm done. I don't
care about being here. I just want to get out.
Oh look I found the fountain of youth and look
how well I'm playing. So yes, with the new team,
with a contending team, they can use Jimmy Butler's specific
type of volatile leadership that he has shown on and
off in the last few years. He's you know, he's

(21:24):
got he's got a big skill set, doesn't need to
be the number one scorer, anymore because he knows he's not.
But he's someone that can hit big baskets, play crunch
minutes and give you that little bit of crazy leadership
that some teams kind of neat, because sometimes a little
bit of crazy works. And sure enough, what do we
find out just a couple hours ago, Shams Tarani of
ESPN reporting Jimmy Butler suspended for seven games, and they're

(21:47):
going to listen to trade offers. Like we said last
night before this came out, I we can be NBA.
I can be an NBA. Int.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
I remember eight days ago when Pat we're not trading
Jimmy Butler. Yeah, yeah, but you have that saying don't
say never. But but here's the question now for Shams.
If I were to use a a meme right or
a gift up on Twitter to kind of describe this
whole thing, two of them are gone. I can't use
Connor McGregor or Vince McMahon. So how do who's walk

(22:16):
do I get to emulate? Is it Seth Rollins coming
into or you know, the the Cody Rhodes. I mean,
what am I doing?

Speaker 1 (22:24):
Yeah? You gotta find a new walk, Yeah, find a
new walk. Yeah yeah, there's a whole other thing.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
I did like Tyler heroes quote from last night though, quote,
I feel like the vibe is great. I'm about to
I'm about to enjoy my night because I'm.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
The best player on the team now.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
Man, I twenty four and a half.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
Man, I could say I can take all the shots now,
not just most of them. I can take all the
shots now. I could wear my bucket hat anywhere I want.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
To go lumberjack competition. Man.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
But look, of course he's going to get dealt. He's
played his last game with the heat. When you say
things like I'm I'm I'm not happy here, I don't
have joy. And when you're thirty five, you're no longer
the player you were and your team is meandering around
five hundred, it's time. It's time to make that move,
and they will, and you're gonna see big teams get
involved because he's not gonna cost very much. This is

(23:15):
not getting Jimmy Butler three four years ago. This is
getting Jimmy Butler at thirty five, when there's a there's
a lot of question about what he has left in
the tank. So you're gonna get a pretty a pretty
cheap uh. Ask back. So, Okay, so you're gonna it's
not just gonna be Hey, we're gonna dump you off
to Detroit or somewhere else. No, there's gonna be contending
teams that can feel we need a little bit of

(23:38):
that on our team, right, like all the teams that
thought maybe middle of last year, hey, if the Warriors
want to part ways with Draymond Green, we could really
use a little bit of that attitude. Maybe he's not
the player he was, but boy, he really comes in
and he's the policeman and he knows how to he
knows how to push buttons and get a team focused.
We could use some of that. Jimmy Butler is kind

(23:58):
of like that, but but no, not quite as demonstrative
and over the top, and he doesn't get thrown out
as many times. But that that teams that need something
like that, they're gonna look to him. And all those
teams on his list that he put out a few
weeks ago. Phoenix, yeah, the Dallas yeah, of course, Golden State. Yeah,
all these teams are gonna say, yeah, we can use
it because he could be a great addition because of

(24:19):
what he can bring. If as long as he has
the fountain of youth, and he feels motivated for the
next year plus. Right, the beauty of.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
It is, he only got to get through the end
of this year because he's got a player option, which,
according to the reports, he already has informed everybody, he
and his agent and anybody will listen, they're declining it.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
Yeah, let's wait and see, let's wait, and let's see
how the rest of the year goes before you watch.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
But no, but but but there's the beauty of it, right,
there's there's the risk risk idea of it. Of well,
it is a player option, and if this goes south,
he's gonna be waving at us telling me to give
you his fifty to two million dollars.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
Now, if you're looking at where he could end up, right,
looking at where he could it up. He gave his
list of teams that he would be okay going to
right and and and we we told you about that list.
The Rockets are also on this list. The Rockets might
be a little nervous about it, because like, hey, we
got a kind of got a good thing going on here,
and and nobody thought we were gonna be good and
looking look, we're pretty good.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
And someone James Harden.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
Yeah, don't uh, don't say anything. Don't tell anybody. We're good.
But we feel pretty good about what we have. So
I can see Houston saying no, but Dallas absolutely. I
can see the Golden State Warriors absolutely, Phoenix absolutely. But
you're gonna see teams like the Lakers are gonna get involved,
and maybe the Nuggets get involved, and maybe the Timberwolves go, hey,

(25:43):
we need another guy. Come back, Jimmy, come back, everything
is forgiven. Come back here. And other teams in the
East are gonna say, yeah, we think we need Jimmy too.
The Atlanta Hawks, do we do we punt on the season?
Do we? What do we do? No, let's go get Jimmy.
You're gonna see a lot of teams that are gonna
wind up going in on him. But I'll tell you
this one hundred percent, pat Riley is not gonna trade
into a team in the East. It is only going

(26:04):
to the West. He will give him to a team
kind of on his preferred list because you have to,
because you want to move on from him. You want
to make sure he reports he's gonna go there, he's
gonna play, So it will be from his preferred team.
I'm gonna say this. I'm gonna say when it comes
down to it, the four teams, we're gonna be talking
about it the next few days. Take the Rockets out
because I don't think the Rockets want to do that

(26:25):
at this point. They want to continue to see what
they have. They're ten games over five hundred, they're a
game out of second place. I think the Rockets think
they're pretty good. But a team like but it's gonna
be Dallas, it'll be Golden State, it'll be Phoenix, and
it will be the Lakers. Watch out for the Lakers.
They're feeling good about what they've done. They just made
a trade already with Frid'angelo Russell. They've opened things up

(26:46):
for Austin Reeves. Maybe Jimmy Butler is that guy that
comes in that can do what they were hoping some
of their guys could do this year, and that is, hey,
we have Knights, so we can give Lebron some rest
and a d some rest. Because Jimmy Butler can be
a guy that once every three or four games can
be the Jimmy Butler of old and hey, this game
we're doing pretty well. Lebron can take a little bit

(27:07):
less minutes and not worry about the wear and tear.
I'm telling you take the Rockets out, put the Lakers in,
because he can kind of take any role you need
right there. He can shoot, he can play clutch minutes.
He's done it before. You know, Lebron and Ad would
trust him right away. I'm telling you put the Lakers
on that list. With those other three teams.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
Well, got to have a bit of veteran leadership in
a locker room, right to make sure that if he
comes in, you know, you've got some guys that have
the gravitas to, you know, keep him to where he's
not taking over. Because that was the problem in the past,
right with young players, that he would be too exacting,
too demanding, dismissive, and then they'd get in their fields.

(27:48):
Go back to your guy Bodega and so many others.
The history is littered with them. With Lebron and Ad
it would work. Now I've seen a couple of us
wondering about you.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
Got to make the money work. That's the big things.
You got to make the money work. But there's ways
to do that with three teams and say hey, we're
gonna make this trade here and do this, So you
could always find a way to make the money. It
doesn't have to be well, it's got to be Austin Reeves,
that's not gonna happen. There's ways to.

Speaker 3 (28:13):
Make No, you're not bringing in Jimmy Butler and getting
rid of Austin reasons.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
No, what I'm saying is that you gotta make the
salaries much.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
But the NBA, Yeah, I mean, you've got to be creative.
There's no question about it. Get another team involved. Because
the Lakers outside of and we had this conversation a
couple of weeks ago in terms of what else they
could do. The fact that they were able to make
a deal and ship off De'angelo Russell. Okay, there's part one.
But you don't have a lot of other discernible assets

(28:41):
that are building you towards a championship contending squad that
are on the roster. Nor do you have guys that
are making big money that make the equations for the
NBA trades work, which is why you'd have to get
creative with a third or fourth team coming into the fray.
But that gets fun. The Clippers were all so kind
of mentioned. It's curious because you're still waiting on. Is

(29:03):
it Kawhi Leonard supposed to play one of these days?
Isn't that at some point?

Speaker 1 (29:07):
Yeah, there's a lot of there's a lot of talk.
Maybe he's gonna play at some point. All to talk
about him is false according to the every day he'll
play at some point, we'll see him. We see him
every year. We just don't see him that often. He's
gone from Hey, a guy we saw all the time too. Yeah,
he comes back into town once a couple of times
a year. I saw him at a bar. A couple

(29:28):
of weeks ago. I saw Uncle Jim at a bar.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
It's like when I have the schedule opportunity to go
home to Chicago. Yeah, Mike's gonna be at this bar
and you can show up. Great, there's not enough time.
It's a short trip.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
He's not just we went from seeing him all the
time and now now I don't see him anymore. So
you run into that front. Hey, you ever see yeah?
You e you ever see Bob anymore?

Speaker 3 (29:50):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (29:50):
Man? No, I used to see him all the time,
but now, like I don't know, a couple times a year.
I saw him at that big wing ding event. Uh,
he was there, but then he was only there for
a little while. I saw him at Christine's birthday, but
now then he went back home. That that's kawhi Lenny's
gone from. Hey, we used to go out all the time, man,
we were wingmen. Yeah. Now it's as I see a
couple of times a year, but I at.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
Least have the excuse, you know, the You can commiserate
with me on air twenty two hours a week plus
a podcast, so you can have my thoughts on a
wide range of topics like you intimately are sitting at
a table with me over a candlelight in a dimly
lit dive bar.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Let's go exit out about a Fresca exit swollen dome.
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Carman,
live from the tire rack dot Com studios. Time now
to find out what's trending in the wide world of
sports with special delivery Steve the Seger, and I do
want to say this coming in breaking news coming in
the Knicks Thunder game was abandoned in the fourth quarter

(30:48):
with the Knicks having a lead. They're going to finish
that game tomorrow night. Steve, you have more details on that.

Speaker 4 (30:52):
Yeah, it turns out it was only abandoned by the Knicks.
Yeah City wins the game one seventeen, one oh seven.
The next nine game winning streak is over. OKC has
won fourteen in a row. Shake Gilgess Alexander thirty three points.
OKAC outscored him in the fourth by eighteen. New Orleans
ended an eleven game losing streak. Beat Washington won thirty

(31:15):
two to one twenty C. J McCollum with fifty points
tonight from three point range, he was ten of sixteen.
Looks like Cleveland's gonna win again. Leading at Dallas with
four minutes to go one twenty seven to one oh eight,
thirty four points for Evan Mobley. This would put Cleveland
at thirty and four. This would be their ninth straight win.
For the Mavericks, Kyrie Irving out due to illness. At Denver,

(31:38):
the Nuggets Nikola Jokic with thirty seven points. Denver is
tied late third quarter against San Antonio eighty seven all
the two late games. Lakers are about to host the Hawks.
The Kings are hosting the Grizzlies. Boston won again twenty
six and nine record after a victory at Houston one
oh nine eighty six Rockets forward Jabari Smith broke his

(31:59):
hand shoot around. He'll be reevaluated in four to six weeks.
Victories for Detroit and Orlando. The Miami Heat did suspend
Jimmy Butler's seven games for conduct detrimental to the team.
The Heat will listen to trade offers now. College hoops
on Fox TV tonight. Eighteenth thrank Michigan State was a
winner at Ohio State sixty nine to sixty two, and

(32:20):
there's a game on FS one right now at a
rank Marquette, the home team holding on against Creighton fifty
six fifty three with eleven minutes to go. Among the
five NHL games, Edmonton up on Anaheim two to one
at the end of two periods. Florida in a shootout,
beat Pittsburgh three to two. The Dodgers signed Korean infielder
High Sung Kim three years plus a two year option.

(32:42):
In college football a couple of bowl games. There's one
in Charlotte with about two minutes left right now. Minnesota
leads twenty four to ten over Virginia Tech in Dallas today,
Texas State beating North Texas thirty to twenty eight, and
Dolphins quarterback tu Atongavailoa is unlikely to play Sunday at
the Jets due to his hip injury. Quarterback Tyler Huntly
due to start for Miami. Season ends this weekend.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve O. And oh, by
the way, I to show you what I'm like as
a radio host in the person, I can put my
fandom aside sometimes and say things that that credit teams
that I really don't like. Georgetown might be back. Yeah,
they won tonight over Xavier. Georgetown is twelve and two

(33:26):
so far, they're unbeaten the Big East like George. Which
it pains me to say this because I go I
tell Zoe, you go anywhere you want. You can't go
to Georgetown, can't go to College of Georgetown, only play Way.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
But if they become a juggernaut again and it knows
to go, No, can't go to George, and then you
can keep yelling it like Voldemort is back, No, Georgetown
is back.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
Can't go to but Georgetown. I mean, they are twelve
and two and they have been just absolutely terrible the
last few years and here they are now top of
the Big East. Twelve and two. I mean, this is
some kind of turnaround right now for Georgetown, I'll tell you.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
How does that make you feel they have a.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
Better record than Yukon right now?

Speaker 3 (34:00):
I mean Yukon will never travel again?

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Oh no, you cut. Yeah, Danny Urrell is gonna say,
listen around in Hawaii. All home games, thirty home games.
That's what we're gonna play. We're only gonna play two
away games. We're gonna play once in Hartford, right so
we don't have to go very far, and we'll play
one game at Madison Square Garden. That's it.

Speaker 3 (34:18):
So he's based games up in the SEC football schedule.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
Thirty games, that's all. It is. The Jason Smith Show
with the Mike Carmon Lift the Tirack dot Com studios.
Coming up next is Sunday going to be the final
day for one future NFL Hall of Fame quarterback. We'll
tell you that's next. Jason to Mike Fox.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
Fox Sports Radio. The Jason Smith Show with My best
Friend Mike Harmon Live Forthtirack dot com Studios got more
NBA on the way in a little bit. But this
weekend I think we got caught up in the drama
a lot. But this weekend could bring the final game

(35:10):
in the Hall of Fame career of Aaron Rodgers. This
could be it Jets and the Dolphins, Tyler Huntley and
Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
Let's go uh snoop.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
This could be his final game. And I'm gonna stick
with what I told you a couple of months ago. Yeah,
it might be, but don't count on it because you're
gonna have a new regime coming in and the Jets
are talking to everybody right the interviewed Mike Vrabel today
interviewed Lewis Riddick to be the GM like yesterday.

Speaker 3 (35:41):
I mean, I get a shot to keep the job
next week.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
That that should be he should say, yeah, my interview
is that yet? Thanks, we don't need to interview you.
It's been awful, Okay, you've been You've been absolutely terrible
since taking over. I don't know, he just lunch the Jets,
the Jets, I don't know who the Jet the Jets.
I feel like if they let Vrable out of the
building today, their last chance hotel like it. It's the
only people who are gonna be the GM and the

(36:06):
head coacher. People aren't gonna be gms or head coaches
anywhere else because no one wants to go there because
it's a train wreck and you gotta work for Woody
Johnson and Woody Johnson's kid, Oh my sweet brick. So
I mean, I feel like it's last chance hotel. But
no matter who comes in, right, you're not getting a
quarterback in the first round of the draft. You're not.

(36:27):
There's not anybody you're gonna take in that sweet spot
where you're gonna draft around seven or so. And if
you beat the Dolphins on Sunday, which I'm telling you
what is gonna happen, you're gonna wind up drafting now
more towards number ten. So what are you gonna do.
Are you gonna go crazy to go get a veteran quarterback. No,
you have a new regime coming in. They're gonna want
to draft their next guy. They have Jordan Travis coming back,

(36:47):
who hopefully will be healthy next year. Hey we have him.
We have another guy in the second round that we like,
We're gonna fill up our quarterback room. That's what the
Jets are gonna do. They're not They're gonna fill up
their quarterback room and say, Okay, now we have a
lot of guys, what's the right guy. Who's the right
guy to bring back for one more year? Aaron Rodgers
because he knows. Whatever he says in the press, whatever

(37:09):
it seems like he wants to be a Jet or
he wants to get cut, he's all over the place.
He knows it's the Jets are nowhere. He knows he's
gonna be a Jet next season, or he's not playing
football because no one else is gonna go out and
sign him. He hasn't played terribly in the last half
of the season, but it hasn't been to what the
Jets thought it was gonna be. But when you're looking
at next year, coming in with developmental guys and a

(37:31):
second round pick, I'm sure they'll take Maybe they draft
Jalen Milroe, who knows, But you got Milroe and Travis
or whoever. Hey, you got a couple of young guys
you like. At some point he can sde the job
to them. If Aaron Rodgers is terrible for most of that,
it doesn't matter. Aaron Rodgers can finish on the bench
and be the guy he already said he would mentor
a quarterback. Your new GM and head coach will come

(37:51):
in and you will get a mulligan on next year,
and that is the most valuable thing you can get
as a new head coach. Wait, I don't have to
win right away. I get a mulligan because we're a
reset a little bit. Because if Aaron Rodgers is bad, hey, okay,
now we have our quarterback, so last year that doesn't count.
No one's gonna say I need to go. I'm a
bad head coach. I'm a bad GM. We had Aaron Rodgers.
It didn't work out. Okay, it's a free year, and

(38:13):
that's very attractive to gms and head coaches who come in.
Oh I come and get a year to make mistakes
and figure my roster out. Sure, Rogers, you think it's
not gonna happen, but watch, Aaron'll be a jet next year.
All this stuff going on with Rogers now when he's
when he's saying things like I could get cut by
a teenager, I'd love to come back. It's the best
two years of my life. The reason he's giving you

(38:35):
these messages is because He's never been in a position
of not having power in a long time, and he's
got no power. Either the Jets bring him back or
they don't. He's got no I can talk my way
into this because the Jets are four and twelve right
there's nothing else. He doesn't know how to play it.
He's playing one day it seems like I love the Jets.
One day it seems like boy be fun to be
cut by a teenager, and I'm gonna make fun of

(38:56):
Woody Johnson. But he knows in the end it's the
Jets or nobody. He's a little awkward right now because
he doesn't know how to play it because he doesn't
have the power. But the new regime's gonna come in
and it's gonna be Fillip that quarterback room. And who's
better than some continuity with Aaron Rodgers and DeVante Adams
and Garrett Wilson and these guys again with a different
kind of leadership. Trust me, you think it's gonna be

(39:16):
the end on Sunday.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
It's not as long as Garrett Wilson doesn't force his
way out. But we'll cross that bridge when we get
to it the larger scale, and we're having this conversation
a little in the hallways before the show. When you
start talking about where the quarterback options are for this offseason,
it drops off pretty fast, right, You got the question
of Matthew Stafford, is he sticking around? Is he gonna

(39:40):
leave Los Angeles? They've got Jimmy Garoppolo starting this week.
But in terms of true free agents, because we assume
Purty stays with the forty nine ers, Okay, Sam Darnold,
all the reports that they want to keep him there
in Minnesota, Okay, cool, So he's off the board. Who
else she got? If you're trying to look for a quarterback,

(40:02):
Aaron Rodgers actually has a little more power in the
marketplace then perhaps you'd think, because you got a bunch
of journeyman guys that are that are hanging around, and
then your quarterback class in the draft isn't particularly deep.
But yeah, he's he doesn't certainly have the clout in
New York that he once did, and now he's worried
about the kid who can't drive.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
It's the end. It's not exit out about a Fresca
exit swollen dome. Jason and Mike coming up next, We'll
tell you who's making the playoffs next
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