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December 12, 2025 40 mins

Jason Smith tells you why there is ZERO doubt Joe Burrow will be on a different team next season. Just how wide open is the NFL this season? And all the latest on  Sherrone Moore!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
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(00:51):
tire buying should be. Thursday Night football, second half kicking off,
Falcons getting the football. They have a fourteen to thirty
team lead over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, who six weeks
ago we thought they were great.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Now it's.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
But I do want to say this because I really
feel this from the bottom of my heart. Whether this
is a game that you know, we probably could have
done without on Thursday Night football. Falcons, Yeah, get before
the sever Oh the Falcons are gonna be good.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
No they're not.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Michael Pennix well he's not very good. Well and also
he's hurt and uh. And the Bucks well, I do
have to say we are all winning with this uniform matchup.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
No, absolutely, we are all winning with this.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
I mean this is one of the few times, like
I get that everybody seems to like certain uniforms and
I like this, and I like this.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
All right, great, I get it. I understand that.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
But there's something about when you see the Bucks creamsicles
that are like they're like the new Charger powder blue.
Right when the Charges first started wearing their powder blues,
like like twenty five years ago, it was look at
the powder best powder blue uniforms. Like Berman made a
whole cottage industry of that on primetime with that. Sure,
but I feel like that's kind of where we're at
now with the creamsicle, Like do you wear the creamsickles?

(02:01):
That's ah, like this this is the new whatever you're seeing, whatever,
whatever issues you're going through this holiday season. I mean,
unless you went to or you go to Michigan, like
you know, whatever, you're dealing with. Is this is gonna
put a smile on your face. Hey, we get to
see the bucks of the creamsickles. Yeah, it's only for
a moment or two. It makes you feel good. But
then some of the defensive lapses make you feel like

(02:21):
you're watching those nineteen seventy six and seventy seven Tampa
Bay Buccketeers where they couldn't win in this particular combination.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
Leroy and Dewey salmon shot for sure, Sure, nice Ricky Bell,
we never got a lot of run. No, Leroy got
all of that.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Leroy was also I think what fourteen four time All America. Yeah,
I mean.

Speaker 4 (02:43):
It's a bunch of successful restaurants and businesses in the Tampa.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
Sid you're the less successful brother slash twins slash sibling.
I just so you know that's gonna happen that way.

Speaker 4 (02:53):
But in throwback land, with this uniform, right, this helmet
and the orange jersey, they're one in five. Yeah, but
so with this helmet and the white jersey they actually
have some some more success. But here you can move
the units of this now, I would say also defensively,
they're playing like those seventy six and seventy seven.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
There's only two guys that can beat you, Kyle Pitts
and Bejeon Robinson.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Well, And the thing is, when Kyle Pitts is one
of the guys senior beat you, you have to look
in the mirror. Wow.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
Because the last two weeks thirteen for one hundred and
seventy two.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Yeah, okay, okay, great, yes, Oh, here comes a Kyle
Pitts breakout. The guy's thirty five years old. Now he's
not gonna break out.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
Okay. I'm not saying. I'm not saying he's a wizard.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
I'm just saying, like there's been a little bit of
a back and forth and a nice rapport with him
and Kirk Cousins, which means, you know what, cover that man.
Drake London is not on the field. Darnell Mooney is
not that guy.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
The Kyle Pitts breakout is not happening. Yeah, but here
he is in Fantasy Land, the Fantasy.

Speaker 4 (03:53):
Playoffs, and he's uh, he's dominating six for six, one
hundred eleven inches two over.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
It's over about Paul Mooney. You know what about who
Frostburg Paul Mooney?

Speaker 3 (04:03):
Uh No, I don't think.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
Nice, I don't think we can play most of the
one liners, though I didn't say that.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
So yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
So here we are fourteen thirteen, early in the third
quarter again, and even the even the Bucks coaches are
wearing the creamsicle colors like and and look, be honest,
orange is a tough color to pull off from a
guy who has worn orange's whole whole life. Like orange
is a tough color to pull off. But it's not
just that. Like you get to the falcon side, the
black jerseys, the red helmets, like that's a sweet look too, man,

(04:31):
Like I see the red helmet, I think Steve Barkowski. Actually, yeah,
this is all going back to the lates at William Andrews. Yeah, sure, sure,
yes see now you're talking. Yeah, I'm digging. That's I mean,
like when when when the uniforms are really good, you
can you can get past the bad football or the
lack of urgency on the football, Like I bet you
Al Michael's seeing these uniforms. He thinks both these teams

(04:52):
are great. He think, is what a great matchup we
have tonight? No, except for all the penalties, Well that
goes along with you know when when with the Falcon, Falcon,
what happens? I think they have fourteen points and fourteen penalties.
I'll tell you what though. Those helmets, yeah, really are
something special. Oh yeah, yeah, I mean the helmets are
absolutely fantastic. Uh So again, we'll bring you more on this.

(05:14):
Uh again, fourth and eight for the Falcons. They'll punt
it away early in the third quarter. They lead the
Bucks fourteen thirteen. This game a huge deal of playoff
implications in the NFC, specifically the NFC South, with the
Carolina Panthers somehow being as bad as they are and
they are sitting there, Hey, we could just wind up
finishing six and and eleven and making the playoffs because

(05:36):
everybody else in the division stinks. So h this is
where we are at right now with this story. However,
as we said yesterday, the big shock of the Sharon
Moore situation with Michigan. He has fired as head coach
when the university dismisses him because of an inappropriate relationship
with a staffer. We also find out he was then

(05:58):
detained and taken into police custody after an assault type
situation in a smaller town outside of ann Arbor, and
last night it was Okay, we told you last night. Listen,
there's a lot of stuff going on the internet right now,
and I can seeing now because now we know more,
and I know in twenty four hours we will know
more and we will have a little bit better idea
of what happened.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
And we do.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
There was a lot of different things last night, but
the concrete things we know because if they've been reported.
Early in the day today you had the first reports
Pete Thammill on ESPN saying that he had his behavior
had been very erratic for a while, berating coaches. Not
the same guy he was. We found out the woman
he was in this relationship with got a very surprising

(06:43):
bump and salary from fifty thousand dollars a year to
ninety thousand dollars a year without getting a promotion or
anything else. Requietly the money gets bumped up, and then
the big hammer drops late in the day when the
nine to one to one call from yesterday came out
about the assault call in which it was called it
was a phone call was made from the victim's residence,
ostensibly potentially it was the woman he was involved with,

(07:06):
in which she says he's been stalking me for months.
He's here right now. He threatened me with a knife.
He threatened himself and this is when police were called
to the residents and they found scheron More at a
church somewhere nearby and reports were that he had the
knife and he dropped it. He is now still being
looked at by police and he is in some sort

(07:26):
of evaluation care because of the potential self harm situation.
And this is where the situation where Sharon Moore sits
right now. And in the last hour or so, we're
starting to open the door to when did Michigan know
about this situation? There are some reports that they knew
as far back as September, maybe before. Maybe it's just

(07:47):
a couple of weeks ago. So now this is where
the big, the big thing goes. How long did Michigan know?
But was this something where they were made aware of
it a couple of weeks ago and after a couple
of weeks agne by they acted on it was just
something that was in September and let him coach the
whole season. Was this eight nine months ago and they
still let them coach. That's the next part of this.
But I don't think people understand The one part of

(08:09):
the story that we haven't really gotten into yet is that, yeah,
this is an incredibly sad story, and you see what's
going on, you feel for everybody involved in You don't
know what what's happening and what the motivations are and
what this relationship was like. You know that Sharon Moore
is married with three kids, but I don't think people
understand that just how bad this is for the Michigan brand,

(08:29):
just how awful this is. Because this is not Hey,
here's a coach and we can wipe our hands and
walk away. This is the head coach of the football team.
You go to that campus and you see that, and
you see the sports complex and you could see the
trillions of dollars that has poured into this because of
the football probably. Look, the basketball team is phenomenal, hockey
team is phenomenal. They have they're sports in Michigan, sports

(08:53):
at top to bottom are terrific. But this is this
is how bad. This is the head coach at Michigan
and every thing I just outlined this is what's happened.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
Imagine what this story is like. Okay, what if this
was at.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Ohio State or Alabama or or usc think of all
these big schools Texas where here's a coach, the guy
that's got the biggest job, who is who is basically
running the state, all of a sudden gets involved and
throws it away because of an affair with somebody else.
And there's there's a reports of assault, and and and
now he's fired for cause. And what an absolute messis

(09:28):
is yes, and we're you know, Sharon Moore, I get
being focused on him, but this is so unbelievably bad
for Michigan, especially thinking that, well, the next part of
it's gonna be what did they know? When did they
know about it? Ward Manual, the ad who got an extension,
He's got a four year extension a year ago. Like,
I don't know, people understand just how bad this is
for Michigan, for the brand, for the football program, because

(09:50):
now all their their recruits are gonna wind up leaving.
They're gonna Bryce Underwood deserve me talk about him getting
poached from from somewhere else, Like that's how bad this is.
Just this are on more part of it. This is
what we're focused on, but Michigan, which is a much
bigger deal. This is absolutely a lot of people understand
just how bad this is going to be for them.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
Well, i'll take the underwood part first.

Speaker 4 (10:10):
A week ago everybody was like, he can go somewhere
else because they didn't like him. So now we can't
suddenly wring our hands and say, oh, it'll be terrible
if he leaves because that.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
We're going to give you more money. Okay, great, like
the old he's not been great.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
He got a guy that was evaluated as that Michigan fans,
we're terribly upset about it, but he's.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
Still the starter quarterback of the football team who they
gave eleven million dollars of nil money to and oh yeah,
and now this guy could go like think about how
embarrassing it was for a Tennessee left year and now
with Tennessee and nicoy Amalava, who.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
Was like, yeah, nobody really knew who the guy was.
Now this this is Michigan. That's how bad this is. No,
but that's it. It's the how, what?

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Why?

Speaker 3 (10:54):
Where all of that?

Speaker 5 (10:56):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (10:56):
And connecting the dots back in the timeline. Is it November?
Is it September? We saw prominent Michigan alums all, hey,
you know, hey, I had multiple people tell me essentially
the same story months ago, and it's sat there all right,
So if they'd gone ten and two or eleven and one,
does it get buried? Does it stay in unearthed? Was

(11:20):
it going to be coming out inevitably? Right? Like some
of those details that we still await, are going to
decide how bad it is for the school, Cause we've
seen schools across the landscape, basketball, football, whatever, pro teams
you survive, right, that coach, it's insulated, it's isolated, it's gone.

(11:44):
But once it goes into how many more people within
the organization, within the pecking order going all the way
up and down into state representatives, let alone people on
the employed by the university itself and knew about things
and either tried to cover it up, cover it up,
or move it down the line. Yeah, that's that's where

(12:06):
it is, right. The cover up always worse than the
crime itself. Here, you start asking about, you know, mental
health and when you're firing for cause and the timeline
of that. If there's a stocking situation, can they corroborate that?

Speaker 3 (12:21):
Right?

Speaker 1 (12:21):
Had there been you know, police, had there been police
intervention in the months prior, Like, all of these things
are questions that'll come out. And as we navigated it
last night, it was a lot of stories, a lot
of allegations like yeah, I don't I don't know that
it's in our right or responsibility. It's our responsibility to

(12:44):
not breathe, breathe into that until it's corroborated and the
eyes are dotted and the teaser crossed. As we talked
about yesterday, even some of your tabloidal websites didn't go
down that road, whether they had Michigan ties or just
from a hey, actually, let's try to capitalize journalism for

(13:05):
a moment.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
They didn't go down that road.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
Neither did we, and some of it were still awaiting
for the corroboration. But as it sits now, I mean,
he's still in a holding cell and they haven't decided
whether the press charges or not. Like that, that's where
we're at as we come on air tonight, like that's
still an unknown. I mean, you think it's bad, now,
just wait, just wait, like this mushrooms and this is

(13:28):
months of Michigan and corruption and what was known and
what this that that's I mean, people don't understand that
you can't just move on and say well, if you're
on more and we're out and here comes Klen deer
boor or here comes Jesse Mint. It's not going to
be that simple.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
It is.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
It's it's going to be so it's it's one of
those when I talk to my because all I do
all day is we talk about this because my wife's
family wants to know and all this stuff and be
in Michigan and then there they've seemed to all just
like the entire state just seems to be coming to
agreement with This is just gonna suck for a long
time and it's gonna get even worse. I'm like, yeah,
that's exactly how it's gonna.

Speaker 4 (14:03):
Got I meaning, you know, plus or minus and not
to be glib about it. The lack of a real
control by anything NCAA related actually helps anymore.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
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said today, I want out.

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(16:21):
Thursday Night football in Tampa.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
It is a now.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
Twenty to fourteen lead for the Bucks. Baker Mayfield throws
a touchdown pass. They were facing a fourth and goal
when we last left you. Whoever a penalty gave the
Bucks the first down. Two plays later they were in
the end zone. Now it's the Falcons with the ball
on the move. Bejon Robinson just caught a pass in
the flat and got about twenty five yards. So here

(16:46):
come the Falcons looking to play spoiler here in the
NFC South, because, boy, the chances of the Bucks going
to the playoffs. You know, according to the big math
they like to do with a win tonight. It's like
somewhere over with a loss night, it's down to like
fifty percent.

Speaker 4 (17:03):
Yeah, I drop into seven and seven be huge. Still
a couple of dates left with the Carolina Panthers to
try to win the division. We've seen some chaos. We
saw a missed opportunity by a Tampa Bay defender to
play before that big screen pass and scamper from Jean Robinson.

(17:25):
And now a deep ball to your guy Sills and
it goes straight through his hands.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
Oh TJ. Clearly they saw that play from Santa Monica
to Beverly Sills drops it what could have been a
big game that was well done for those who don't
know Beverly Sills an actress for many, many years.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
What is also interesting is that he just he just
dropped a pass that was a touchdown. That was the
forty five yard touchdown. The defensive back fell down. All
Sills has to do is catch it, and.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
He just dropped.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
He puts his hands out to catch it and he
just dropped. I mean, that's a fifty yard touchdown pass
and the Falcons are leading this game and he just
dropped it. It's one of those I get guys drop passes,
but man, like you see the skills wide receivers have
in the NFL, It's like, how do you drop something
like that? Generally you don't want the ball to come
into your body. On that one, let the ball come
into your body and then corral it went and tried

(18:21):
to snag it with his hands and just flat out
dropped it. Over the course of the night.

Speaker 4 (18:26):
The graphic that keeps going up is the number of
first downs that the Falcons have is basically one to
one with the number of penalties that they have for
the Buccaneers, because everybody saw the stars coming back and
got excited. Your touchdowns scored by Sean Tucker and Devin
Culp cus y'all seldom used tight end, second year man
out of Washington, drafted in the seventh round last year.

(18:49):
Otten's out, everybody's hurt, and here you go the pattern
run by the touchdown. He ran a curly culp to
get the touch nicely done. I was gonna curly cult.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
I had that in.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
The the wheelhouse, but not in the burmanism for you.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
I mean I could I I could I the other
other one because I get a Robert Culpin. But that
would have been really tough. I'd have gotten Bob in
But like, do people know Bob Culp? Robert Culp, you know,
I mean Robert Colpe showed up on Everybody Loves Raymond,
and sure he was around for what about Bob BP?
What about Bob blah blah? Yeah, he's at him. We
don't have time for nonsense with Bob blah blah. So

(19:28):
twenty to fourteen Bucks with the lead Falcons, with the
football again about the forty five yard line of the Bucks,
about four and a half to go in the third quarter. Meanwhile,
things just got really really interesting in the off season
if your team needs a superstar quarterback. And I mean

(19:49):
not just oh, I don't mean like, oh, Kyler Murray's available.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
No, No, things.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
Got really really interesting today and we're gonna tell you
why because it is normal. Well, Thursday press conference, Bengals
quarterback Joe Burrow went on a I don't want to
say a long diatribe, but he spent a good couple
of minutes talking about his happiness and where he sits
right now with how happy he is in football and life.

(20:16):
And he says, I got some personal things happening too,
but asked about how much fun he's having playing and
playing right now. This is the answer that Joe Burrow
gave a couple of different ways. This wasn't just a
one answer. This is a couple of different ways. This
is Joe Burrow answering the happiness question earlier today.

Speaker 6 (20:33):
I want to keep doing this.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
I have to have fun doing it.

Speaker 6 (20:37):
You know, I've been through a lot, and if it's
not fun, then what am I doing it for? I'm
not sure. I'm not sure there is a singular moment
or of time. It's just a reflection, reflection on a
lot of things that I've done and been through in
my career. I think I've been through more than most
and it's certainly not easy on the brain or the body.

(20:58):
So let's trying to if I'm doing it again.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
He turned twenty nine yesterday, so it's definitely one of
those celebrating a berth dag in a look at my
life and see the choices that I've made.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
Dude, you bought the batmobile. I think you're doing okay.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Well, I don't know that he's ability of that purchase.
He was rumored to be and then I think with
the break in and everything, maybe he got salty and
said no and You've seen a lot of things as
he talked about. Look, he had the break in at
his home not too long ago, the injuries he has
been dealing with. It's privacy being invaded. How happy he
is playing football and going out having a you know

(21:33):
when he goes out there, he plays terrific, but he's
been hurt a lot. The team is not winning. Another
big effort on Sunday goes by the wayside. He throws
four touchdowns, couple of picks, they lose to the Bills.
It's officially in done season now in Cincinnati. And when
I hear him talking like this, right, and everybody jumped
to one conclusion, that's, oh, he's going to pull the

(21:54):
Andrew Lucky's going to retire. You know, if that's where
it was going, that's where it was going. You don't
say stuff like this, right. That's that's something where if
you're thinking about retiring, that's where you talk to yourself.
You know, you talk to your loved ones about it.
It's not something that goes in in in public. Right.
You also wouldn't have grinded your ass to get back
on the field when the season was spiraling as it was.

(22:18):
If you were really on the I don't love this anymore.
You're not killing yourself to get back on the field. Yeah,
and he's and and it's a it's a different it's
a different take. Remember when Andrew Luck did it, nobody knew,
nobody knew he was doing. He was on the sideline
of their preseason game, and all of a sudden, Adam
Schefter says, hey, Andrew Luck is retiring. And then he
beats it off the field at the end, and you know,

(22:39):
now he's running Stanford football. So it's a it's a
it would be handled differently if this was a retiring thing.
This is Joe Burrow saying I have to get out
of here, right. And we talked with this a couple
of years ago where the biggest thing that Bengals need
to do is keep him happy. He's the beginning of
their era of good feeling.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
Right.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
He said four years ago, Hey, you got the right guy.
He's the right quarterback. You got to make sure that
he is happy, because this is how lucky you get
lucky in the draft to get him coming off the
year he had. How good he is. I mean, he
is a phenomenal talent. You have to keep him happy.
You have to keep him up right, keeping him up right.
It's been a problem now. Sometimes it's just hey, maybe

(23:18):
he's not as durable. Sometimes it's their offensive line as
the twenty eighth ranked offensive line, and he gets hit
way too much. But he is not happy, and he
talks about happiness and wanting to do it. Believe me,
he's a pretty smart dude. He knows what he says
and how it's going to be taken. This is him
throwing out there for the very for the very first
time publicly, Yeah I'm not happy here in Cincinnati. And

(23:40):
Cincinnati has a plethora of problems. Look how many how
many stories you have to hear about Cincinnati and how
badly they're run. How many times you have to see
the end of season, here's the survey of teams and
what Cincinnati does worse than anybody else. I mean, you've
heard so many stories about this is what life is
for the Bengals. And they got lucky. They got lucky
that they got Joe Burrow. All you got to do

(24:02):
is keep that guy happy. Man, Yeah, you and not.
You gave Jamar Chase money, you gave to his money.
That's great, but you have to make sure that he
is happy as far as being able to win, being
able to succeed, be able to put in a position
to succeed. It's the offensive line, it's everything that goes along.
It's being happy coming into work every day. And whether
it was the combination of losing to the Bills, because

(24:23):
you could see the look on his face following that loss.
He was a very quick congratulations of Josh Allen. It
was an incredible game and you could see him walking
off the field and you could tell there's gears grinding
in his head about stuff. He has a twenty ninth
birthday a day ago. No coincidence that he is saying
this now four games left in the regular season. He's
letting it be known. I want out and come and

(24:44):
get me. And since that happened, you know that teams
have been calling and texting and trying to figure what
out Does he want out? What are we doing because
in the offseason there's not a lot of great guys
available free agency. The draft is pretty weak. It's not
like what it's going to be projected to be in
twe only twenty seven. Doesn't mean quarterbacks aren't gonna get taken,
but do you have a choice to say, well, I
could take Dante more fourth overall, or I could go

(25:07):
get Joe Burrow. I'm gonna go get Joe Burrow. He
is on a different team in twenty twenty six. He
is starting for a different franchise, a franchise that is
not just anybody that can put draft picks together like
the Jets. Hey we got first round picks. No, it's
gonna be I'm going to a place where I'm in
a position to succeed, where I can win. Because I'm
twenty nine, I'm seeing my football mortality. I don't know

(25:28):
how many years I have left. I want to think
I have a lot, But man, twenty nine, I'm gonna
I'm gonna be thirty and I'm not gonna have anything
accomplished like I wanted to. Yeah, it's gonna be a
team that's on the uprise, that's a quarterback away that
he's gonna be on next year. Book a new team
for Joe Burrow.

Speaker 4 (25:43):
The Colts asking and what the warranty was on at
Sauce Gardner in getting those picks. But all of that
to say for Joe Burrow, right, this was part of
the big birthday celebration as he met with the media midweek,
talked about getting a Pokemon on box from his teammates,
who was very excited about that. Went deep into Pokemon culture.

(26:05):
So that was the stuff that got the first round
in terms of the publicities. Ah, that's kind of funny
talking about the hobby and scalpers or whatever else. And
then it got very somber on the football side. And
it goes back to when we had the Super Bowl run,
when they were out here and Cincinnati Bengals fans weren't
nearly as I rate and upset about things as I

(26:26):
thought they should have been. The way the fourth quarter
went down against the Rams, Ah, you know, we're just
getting starters, Like, that's not the way this works, man,
It's not the.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
Way football works.

Speaker 4 (26:35):
And watching the proliferation of injuries for him, it piled up.
They did him right by bringing bringing back Chase and
Higgins and and they've loaded up on the offense. The
offensive line is an exact science that we see from
myriad NFL teams. Nobody gets it right. They try and

(26:56):
then a lot of it as your quarterback, and he's
had some unlucky breaks along the way defensively, lou Aniruma
was the fall guy last year for what was a
horribly constructed eleven man unit, and then Hendrickson, they have
all the fight in the offseason, then he gets hurt
and he's unavailable right so down the stretch. So that

(27:18):
game against Buffalo was the culmination of a lot of things,
battling back from injury to get back on the field,
doing everything you could with the four touchdown pass, you
had him on the ropes, and then a couple of mistakes,
tip balls all that your defense can't get you one stop.
And that's been the story of the year. Even when
Joe Flacco was out there, right, you couldn't get the

(27:40):
one stop, even if the offense was putting up points.
And after a couple of years of that rehabs and
recognizing nothing's changing at the top, right, it's the old adage.
If you got a bad ownership group and they don't
do right by the players, by the community, by everything.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Mike Brown, everybody, Mike Brown, and again to his credit,
he paid his wideouts.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
Problem is that that's not a team.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
But look, and and the reason why this is gonna
happen is because look, I'm old enough to remember when
Carson Palmer wanted out and Mike Brown let him sit
for weeks and weeks and weeks, Joe Burrow was saying this,
does he strike you with someone that has any problem, saying,
I'm just gonna sit until you trade me. That's all.
I'm hurt all the time now here for whatever it is,
because you can't protect me. I am absolutely okay because

(28:26):
I know my value. I know what it is for
a team to get me at the age of thirty.
It's gonna protect me. I am absolutely okay because eventually
you will trade me. Eventually someone's gonna come in and
you're gonna tire of the storyline and you're gonna make
that move. Something's going to happen. He is He is
not a guy that I that I said, Ah, he's
just gonna try to do this and and and and
bluff his way through and force a trade. No, the

(28:47):
Bengals have shown we'll let a quarterback sit and he
he is a guy.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
He's telling you, I gotta be happy. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
Hey, he is absolutely gonna be fine sitting until they go.
I'll miss half the season. It's fine, I'll miss half
the Season's timing week An, I don't think he can
do that because otherwise he wouldn't be playing right now.
He wouldn't have come back if he was that guy. Well,
I don't think he changed that much. I'm just with
the one game. He came back because he thought, even
though it's a bad year. The division stinks, right, the

(29:15):
Steelers are terrible, the Ravens can't get going, and Lamar
Jackson's hurt. Hey, I can come back and I can
lead us and we can maybe get back in this
That's why that's why he came back is.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
I know he can still screw up, but now he can't.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
Right, But now he can't because clearly they just lost
too many games. If they had won last week, boy,
you think about where they're at. But they lost. The
last couple of weeks were difficult, and now he knows. Okay,
I came back. I gave it my best shot. I
thought we could do it.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
We're not.

Speaker 5 (29:42):
Now.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
I got to lay the groundwork for getting on a
new team.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
In twenty twenty, s angles fans start lining up all
those Pokemon that you've collected, your PSA graded ones and
line them at the feet of Joe Burrow and start
begging him to feel happier about life. Liberty and his
opportunity with the Cincinnati Bengals make him realize he loves Cincinnati,
he loves his teammates, because otherwise he gone.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
Get ready new team in twenty twenty six, Get ready
for Joe Burrow franchise quarterback in the back. Oh no, no,
he's wants to go fumble that.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
No, no, no, no, He's got to go to a team
that's like a quarterback away from being a super Bowl.
But what's also funny, though, is like we do the
old ay you know, this quarterback class, because remember this
quarterback class for twenty six was supposed to be pretty good.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
Yeah and it stakes.

Speaker 7 (30:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
Now, so the fact that we're already going, eh, just
wait till twenty seven. Yeah, and then we'll wait till
twenty eight, twenty nine. Yeah, you have proof of concept.

Speaker 4 (30:35):
The guy could actually quarterback on one leg and with
one arm.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
You know where he could go. Where's that trending? Now?

Speaker 7 (30:41):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (30:42):
I like that Frostburg. There you go.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Let's find out what's trending in the wide world of sportsman.
Guy who's been called the Joe Burrow of Fox Sports Radio.
He had a batmobile, except he was six and he
got it for Christmas. It's Steve de sag.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
Slightly different paychecks.

Speaker 7 (30:57):
The Bengals, by the way, playing in Cincinnati, Y this weekend. Currently,
the forecast is twelve degrees for the day, Cincinnati four
and nine, as they'll be hosting Baltimore this weekend. The
Bengals do have the worst defense in the league, allowing
thirty two points a game over four hundred yards a game.
The Atlanta Falcons at four and nine, are in action

(31:19):
right now, and we're actually leading at Tampa Bay fourteen
to ten, late first half. It's now the Bucks late
in the third a head at home twenty to fourteen.
Baker Mayfield fourteen of twenty six passing two hundred and
forty four yards, one touchdown. Mike Evans back after a
couple months out he had a broken collar bone. He's
finally back from that. Tonight they've targeted him ten times.

(31:41):
Evans has five catches one hundred and twenty two yards.
Kirk Cousins with two touchdown passes in the first half
for Atlanta, both of those to Kyle Pitts, who has
seven receptions for one hundred and seventeen yards and two scores.
Bijon Robinson sixty six yards rushing sixty two yards receiving
on five catches final seconds of the third quarter at

(32:02):
Tampa Bay, the Bucks lead twenty to fourteen. The Bucks
are tied for first in the NFC South with Carolina,
and Tampa Bay plays two of its final three games
against the Panthers. Bengals wide receiver T Higgins was limited
in practice again today after a concussion. Dallas wide receiver
Cede Lamb practice fully after a concussion a week ago.

(32:24):
Steelers pass rusher TJ. Watt was hospitalized for a lung injury,
so his status for Monday night is in question. Rams
wide out DeVante Adams Smiths practice again with a hamstring
injury to the NBA just four games tonight, the LA
Clippers have just lost by two at Houston Rockets one
fifteen one thirteen. The final Clippers record now six and nineteen.

(32:47):
At Milwaukee, a win for the Bucks over Boston one
sixteen one oh one that ends the Celtics five game
winning streak. Also in action, well, New Orleans has lost
seven in a row. Orland's wound up winning that is
now final. Tonight one forty three to one twenty against
the Blazers and the late game. Has Denver had forty

(33:07):
six twenty six at Sacramento early in the second quarter.
Golden State Steph Curry is due to return Friday. He
missed five games with a quad injury. In men's college basketball,
on FS one, fourth ranked Iowa State was trailing at
home by thirteen late first half, but still beat rival
Iowa sixty six sixty two. Syracuse is four and zero

(33:28):
at home so far and leading at home tonight fifty
eight to fifty four against Saint Joe's with six minutes
to go. Green Bay won its first Horizon League game,
won and two in conference now eighty five seventy five
at IU Indianapolis. Among the thirteen NHL contests.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
Were any chairs thrown after the game tonight? How don't
even know that no chairs were thrown?

Speaker 7 (33:48):
No apologies tomorrow all right? Tampa Bay and the NHL
and eight four win at New Jersey Carolina, a shootout
winner at Washington three to two victories for Boston and
the Islanders. The Braves signed former Padres closer Robert Suarez
to a three year deal. Atlanta closer Rice Saleyglacias has
a new one year contract. NASCAR settled the anti trust

(34:09):
lawsuit brought by two of its race teams, and it
is now through three quarters at Tampa Bay. The Bucks
lead the Falcons twenty to fourteen. The Atlanta Falcons through
three have fifteen penalties for one hundred yards.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve Though, Jason Smith, Mike
Carmen Live at the Fox Sports Radio Studios.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
Coming up next. You want to know how.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
Wide open the NFL is. I'll tell you something from
today that tells you just how wide open the entire
playoffs is. And if your team can get in, you
got a chance. That's next, Jason and Mike Fox.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific, Fox.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best friend
Mike Harmon. Baker Mayfield starting to cook after a Bejon
Robinson in fumble which Wow, didn't look like he had
the football for long enough to fumble, but it stands up.
Mayfield throws his second touchdown of the night and they
get the two point conversion and now it is a
twenty eight to fourteen lead, Tampa Bay over the Falcons.

(35:15):
Still a lot of time left, about thirteen and a
half minutes to go in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
But now some.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
Daylight for a team that is hoping to put a
little bit of positive spin on the last few weeks
where they've kind of falling off the lead in the
NFC South and really plant their foot towards what could
be a big December.

Speaker 4 (35:33):
Two steps, three steps fumble. We're gonna have that debate
once again. But the way you phrase that sounded like
a man who was salty. He might have just lost
two points in a fantasy.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
Maybe I did.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
Maybe I'm upset about the two points I lost. I
don't think I should have lost him. Maybe I'm gonna
sue the NFL because of it.

Speaker 4 (35:49):
It's another one of those great battles, going back to
the likely play at about one hundred others over the
course of the year.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
What is a Catch? Twenty twenty five edition.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Again, twenty eight to fourteen, thirteen and a half to
go in the fourth quarter, Tampa Bay up by two touchdowns.
Now you've heard a lot the last few weeks, but
how wide open the nfls and yes, it is right.
We've talked about how the teams at the top, they're interchangeable.
We thought the Rams were the best team in the
NFL by far. Now maybe they're still the best team,
but maybe not by far. Nothing illustrates how wide open

(36:23):
it is more than this. Okay, just think about this
for a second, because in part of my research today
getting ready for the show, I saw one of those
if the season ended today, here are the NFL playoff
matchups for the first weekend. Okay, if the season ended today,
and then it goes to the committee and it all
goes to help right, No, we're voting, yeah, and I'm sorry,
Notre Dame's not making it. This is going for you know,

(36:45):
the team that finishes, you know, team in first has
the bye. This is what the matchup the season ended today,
if the season ended today, because that's how you got
to play this game. If the season ended today and
we were playing the playoffs this weekend, I would take
the lower seeded team in every playoff game, in every game,

(37:06):
every one, I would take the lower seeded team. I
would take Houston over New England. And that's the one
that's a little dicey, but Houston's defense. Yeah, I feel
pretty good about them against New England and a team
getting their first taste of the playoffs. Buffalo in Jacksonville.
I'll take Buffalo, Chargers in Pittsburgh. I'll take the Chargers
all day long in that one. Chicago, Green Bay, I'll

(37:27):
take the Bears to win the rematch they should have
won last week.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
Well we get we already get it again.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
So San Francisco, Philadelphia, I'll take San Francisco. Not that
I think the San Francisco is great, but wow, Philadelphia
is just falling apart. Seattle, Tampa Bay. I'll take Seattle
like I will take all of these teams. I will
take all of the lower seeded teams in the first round.
All of that, and I really again Houston, New England
the only one that gives me a little bit of
a pause, because, look, New England is very good, but boy,

(37:54):
their schedule has been really easy. And this Texans defense
is the best defense in the NFL. And if we're
playing this weekend, right, because that's that's the game right
season today, if they're playing this weekend, I'll take I'll
take them over the Patriots offense. I'll take the lower
seed in every matchup.

Speaker 4 (38:10):
I'll get a noe doubt to Firman to see what
kind of odds you could get on that if the
playoffs were to start this weekend, because certainly that's a
that's a hell of a parlay along the way, we
talk about home field advantage maybe not having that same
juice that it once did in a lot of these circumstances,

(38:31):
so that that's part of the equation. A lot more
indoor teams as we traverse. But yeah, for the Patriots
still the jury's out. A lot of love for Drake May.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
But something we've chronicled all season, part of it fueled
by your Jets hate, is their strength of schedule, and
that really is the underscore, you know, underline and bold
face italics. Whatever we want to do to it of
the twenty twenty five season is that as we go
unit to unit, that that's exactly how we have to

(39:04):
do it because we're not going team to team. We're
trying to figure out, all, right, where's the best side
of a football team?

Speaker 3 (39:10):
Right?

Speaker 4 (39:11):
You're used in defense, while is the offense up the
task most Sundays?

Speaker 3 (39:17):
Just enough?

Speaker 4 (39:18):
Right, Seattle, You love the defense and what they've done.
Do you trust sam Donold in a big spot right that,
that question still remains.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
I'll trust them this well, I'll trust them this week
play Tampa Bay. I'll trust that defense. Yeah, but I'll tr.

Speaker 4 (39:32):
But with all of these guys back on the field,
I'll take this full compliment of players. I'll take the
Tampa Bay offense. But but it does beget a very
interesting thing for Roger Goodellen company because they just smile
and start cackling, because that means everybody's gonna watch waiting
on upsets. All the sports books are excited because wait,

(39:55):
you want to put money on all the dogs?

Speaker 3 (39:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (39:59):
Now, look is that this is not saying that, Okay,
all of that's going to happen. But if you're saying
to me individual game by game, I'll take all the
lower seeded that's how wide open this is. I'll take
all the lower seeded teams in the game.

Speaker 4 (40:12):
With the chaos, I mean, the Bears did play a
very good second half of football, and but for the
bad read of the situation by camleb Williams on that
interception right, having a comet underneath, having the ability to
run for the first down, still having time on the clock,
all of those things. But yeah, it's it's gonna be

(40:32):
a fun final four weeks as we jockey for playoff position.

Speaker 3 (40:35):
Exit about of Fresca, exit, Swellendome. That's how wide open
it is.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
We got more from Thursday Night Football and okay, smart guy,
you say Joe Burrow is gonna get traded in the offseason.
Where's he going? I got two teams for you next,
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