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September 17, 2024 38 mins

In the first hour of tonight's edition of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon, the guys begin the show discussing the Falcons vs. Eagles on Monday Night Football, Eagles HC Nick Sirianni’s questionable decision to go for it on 4th down in the 1st quarter & explain why the Michael Penix Jr era is closer than you think. NFL Insider Jason La Canfora joins the show to talk about whether or not the Saints are real, the Vikings win over the 49ers & more.  

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
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(00:52):
tire buying should be. Well, we jump right in like
we normally do here on Monday night. Football. Plenty of
time for Aaron Rodgers, plenty of time for Caleb Williams,
plenty plenty of time to Bryce Young plan sure, But
right now in Philadelphia, the under is hitting. I think
that's that's you should say that the under is hitting. Yeah,

(01:12):
the Eagles are deep in Falcon territory. They have a
second down just inside the ten yard line, trying to
go up. In this game, it is a nine to
seven Falcons lead. And there's two big takeaways from this
game so far. Other than the fact that wow, there
are no points.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
I mean the fact that the Falcons are really helping
the seven percent of people that put their money down
on the money line.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
No, that is true. That is true. That is true. Yeah,
we're work looking at for They're like politicians. Hey, that's
seven percent. We're looking out for you. We're looking baby,
let's go. But look, the first thing is this, and obviously,
with a close game happening right now, it's has not
been a lot of offense. We'll get to the Kirk
Cousins part of it, because that's the real big part.
Sure is that in the first quarter, first drive of
the game for the Eagles, they have the ball for

(01:57):
over five minutes, they're faced with a fourth and four
when they could kick a thirty five thirty seven yard
field goal and go up three to nothing, and instead
Nick Sirianni goes for it. Fourth and fourth, not fourth
and one, not fourth and a half. The yard not
we can try the toush push. Not we can get
Jason Kelce out of that green velure track suit he
was wearing before the game tonight, get him to come in. No,

(02:19):
they try to roll and throw the football. They do
not get it. And boy, they would love to have
those extra three points right now, and it would be
a ten to nine lead. And clearly I understand the
gambling aspect of it. And I don't mean gambling like, oh,
it's causing you money. I mean, hey, we're gonna roll
the dice here on fourth and four. Want to send
a message in the beginning of the game. I understand
all of that. But it's fourth and four and you

(02:42):
got the ball for five minutes, right, you had a nice,
nice long drive and this was a way. Hey we're
getting out early. We get the first score of the game.
And I get if it's fourth and two, if it's
fourth to one, I understand that. I got it because
the Eagles have made they've made their bones about that. Hey,
we get for it. But fourth and four, I mean,
that's that's that's not a hey, a high percentage down

(03:02):
for us to get this, and they don't get it.
And now I look at that and I go, man,
Siriani just trying to get fired, Like is he going, Hey,
I don't care anymore. Man, Let me just see what
I can keep doing to see if I can actually
get fired at some point, because this is gonna be
really interesting. Let's see if I could actually get fired,
because I'm gonna issue the field goal and do that.
Like I mean, I'm watching that and I'm saying that

(03:24):
is just this is this a first guess. This is
not a second guess. This is first drive of the game.
You have a chance to get points. And it's fourth
and long ish. Yeah, it's not fourth and short, it's
ever it's fourth and long ish, fourth and four. Take
the points. Everybody takes the points.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
Yeah, the quick Ai bought cycles back that it's a
sixty to sixty five percent play to get those four yards.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Yeah, but this plus but if you don't, yeah, but
if you don't. And the thing is, you can't really
say that in the post game. Well, AI told us,
and I don't mean Alan ivers I think dude, I
think actually in Philadelphia they would actually be okay with that.
If Alan Iverson said go get it. He said, oh, oh, oh,
you know Ai is He's I still love Alan Iverson.
I miss him so much. I think that was a
good call for him to tell Nick Sirianni to go

(04:07):
I'd rather Alan Iverson be your coach.

Speaker 4 (04:09):
I think he'd probably be very good at I'm okay
with that. No, they'd be much more okay with that
than Ai doing. Yeah, that was the response. And then
obviously you do the deeper dive and Sporting News article
at the beginning of last year that said it was
about forty six percent, so a little less than the
coin flip. But you're trying to set the tone. You've
already watched the Atlanta offense last week that you think
you're going to be able to control with Captain Kirk. Again,

(04:30):
we'll get to Captain Kirk in a moment, but the
idea that you want to go and establish your identity
and show that even with changes on the offensive line
and either in the green track suit or then once
they put him in the booth saying you're putting on
this damn green suit coat, jerk that Kerry.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Yeah, all right, we're not some sort of bar cast
podcast whatever the hell you're doing. We're ESPN. You don't
come in here in some flor tracksuit when Joe and
Troy are wearing four thousand dollars ar money suits. Come on,
that's right, you gotta shuit up and take it up
to the next level. Do we have anything large enough
of a green jacket somewhere? Actually, I think the Philly
Fanatic has one that we use for special ki. Great,

(05:11):
just grab that, throwing on, just throw it on. What
going on?

Speaker 4 (05:13):
I think they might have attacked a former Masters and
thrown it from him.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
But Jack Nicholas is walking down the street.

Speaker 4 (05:20):
They run up and just off him, throw it on
him as he goes in, where's a jacket, Jack, where's
the jacket?

Speaker 3 (05:25):
Man? No?

Speaker 1 (05:26):
But look there's no Kelsey.

Speaker 4 (05:28):
Gritty Gritty took my jacket from me and gave it
to Jason Kelsey.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
Because that's you would now you're doing that. Now you've
got gritty and you would send great you You wouldn't
send the Philly fanatic. You would send that's a gritty job.
There's fanatic jobs and then there's grit. That's a gritty job.

Speaker 4 (05:45):
How do we not make this one of these five
knighted Freddy's comedy horror kind of movie.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
With all of the Philly mascots. All right, we gotta
go get that green jacket from that guy for for
Jason Kelcey gritty go you go, Yeah you're the guy,
but but just go, just go.

Speaker 4 (06:01):
God you feel about pulling the job with five other
guys anyway, but trying to establish the run. And we
saw how much success you had with Barkley early on right, nine, ten, ten, eleven,
all of that going back and forth. You're trying to
make that establish your identity here game two and saying
if we don't get it, kirking this offense ain't getting

(06:21):
us so and in the end right and getting the points.
You know, we always do the extrapolation of going, well
it would be this. Now it's like, well, maybe it
wouldn't right because.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
The game's different.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
Now we have the dynamic kickoff that would follow after
a made field goal.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
I just wanted to make fun of them.

Speaker 4 (06:38):
No, I know, I know, But it's always the if
we did this in the first quarter, this is this
ending would have been different, like the whole game would
have been different. All situations would have been different. You
can't say, hey, because we did this three minutes into
a game. You know that final minute man that play
really came back. It's specious logic.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
And you know, here's the thing is, this is one
of those times where you're making those really coaching points
about things, and all I'm thinking is, wait a minute,
A heist movie with mascots. That's it. That's the next
thing for you, you know, like the like the Nuns
in the Town, sorry spoil, you know, you have the
mascots and mister Met and fanatic, and you bring the
San Diego or the Sandy Chicken would be the one

(07:20):
who'd be mess That's how it goes. Yeah, yeah, grimaces, Yeah, yeah, no, no,
I think I think that's the movie. Mascots pulling a
heist and and and you don't know who's in there
because they have to wear the costumes the whole time.
Like it would it would like if like if Brad
Pitt pulls off a you know, uh, you know, I

(07:41):
don't know if it turns out to be Ragnar, Like okay,
you could because you could see him a little bit.
But you know, I think the upset mascots, like maybe
the ones that that have been the maskots that have
been fired, like the mister Met who flipped everybody off Ragnar.
Guys that have been let go. No, No, we're gonna
get back at this team.

Speaker 4 (07:59):
Meanwhile, just showed the training videos of Ragnart getting himself.
We're gonna get back at the and they do it
like the Super Bowl. So it's kind of like it's
kind of like Logan Lucky, except it's the mascot.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
Hang on, I got it. Patent pending, pat and pending,
can't steal my idea. Cancel help.

Speaker 4 (08:15):
We'll get that from you know, voice to text, and
we'll make sure we submitted for copyright and trademark protection.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Now let's get to Kirk Cousins. Yeah, all right, this
has been a game where Cousins to be kind. He's
been a tough watch and for Cousins coming back from injury,
and yes, there's a big I told you still coming
for Cummens coming Cousin's coming back from injury. He doesn't
look confident. He is not accurate. And there's a couple

(08:43):
of throws in the first half, easy bingo throws that
anybody except for Bryce Young is gonna.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
Make that he's gone. We had to sweep him in
now too soon. You couldn't let that sit out there.
A couple more men had to come through. Ah here,
I'm going Kirk Cousins, and you went right, turn.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
Clyde, anybody other but loose man. I can't sugarcoat what happened.
Look but he does not look good. He does not
look right. He does not look confident. He looked he
he's locking in on receivers. He got sacked on the
on the goal line their last possession that forced him

(09:21):
to kick a field goal. He is locked on Drake
London the entire play and when Drake London was covered
by the time kirk Cousin looked away.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
Boom, there was a linebacker in his the end zone,
you know, over the over everybody's heads. He's looked three
open receivers. They ended up settling for the field goal
at the end of the half.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
We told you before the season started. When when word
comes down kirk Cousins, how healthy is he? Not getting reps?
Still might not be happy that the Falcons rafted Michael
Pennock junior. Michael Pennock Junior looked really good in summer workouts.
Everybody liked him. All his teammates raved about him. Kirk
Cousins is a bridge quarterback that doesn't matter the money

(10:02):
he is making. He is a bridge quarterback, and the
Michael Pennick junior era is really really close. You think
all the pundits who say, oh that the job this
year belongs to Cousin, you're insane. It doesn't matter how
much money you are making. When you have a guy
you took in the top ten of the draft to
be your quarterback that look good and everybody wants to
see play, you have to be good out of the

(10:24):
gate or guess what, you're gonna lose your job. And
the Falcons aren't gonna sit here and go. Man, if
we start zero and two and we can't get any
offense going, how long do we go until we give
Michael Penix Junior a chance? We're not gonna postpone the future.
The Michael Pennix junior era, we've told you since the
beginning of the summer, is way closer than you think.
It could be a week five, week six thing. And

(10:45):
it gets hastened with every bad offensive performance that the
Falcons have. Week one Steelers, okay, Steelers have a really
good defense. Their first game, Cousins hasn't played a lot.
Here's Week two, Falcons, and the third quarter they have
nine points, and Cousins is airmailing balls and and and
eyeballing receivers and it has just not been good. So
I don't know what to tell you other than Michael

(11:06):
Pennick Junior is gonna play soon. I mean, for all
of that's going on.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
And and you're gonna wanna sit Kirk Cousins because you
want to protect his value. Because if Kirk Cousins plays
for seven eight weeks and is awful, well, how are
you gonna spin him in the off season. Team's gonna say, yeah,
we like Kirk Cousins, but we're not gonna give anything.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
And you're gonna pay most of the money. Oh okay,
that's that's that's kind of what we'll do. So you're
you're gonna want to do, uh what the rams into
Jared Golf back when he was a rookie. And that's. Look,
we're just gonna sit you down because things are going
really bad and it's not gonna get better. He wants
you to be in a good place mentally. We're gonna
protect you. But what the Falcon's doing is protecting their asset.
So if Kirk Cousins is not gonna be out here

(11:42):
and suck for a long time, and then they're gonna
sit him and then go to Michael Pennix Junior. Because
that's just gonna be a well, I don't know what
to tell you. We're gonna wind up just trading you
for nothing and absorbing a lot of money and and X,
Y and Z down the row and it's gonna be
just a disaster. So that's the big thing. If Cousins
continue used to not ball, this is what's going to
go on. And as I say this, I put this

(12:04):
out in the air. Karma comes back. Kirk Cousins hits
a wide open Darnell Mooney. Where did you play last year?

Speaker 2 (12:10):
Where did you play?

Speaker 1 (12:11):
I'm I'm sorry, buddy, Darnell Mooney is wide open.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
Hddle of the feceivers. Ain't the problem with Chico right now?

Speaker 1 (12:17):
You get to that. A mistackle at the five yard line.
Mooney is into the end zone. Kirk Cousins throws a touchdown.
Congratulations Kirk. The Falcons are going for two. They're up
fifteen to ten over the Eagles. So maybe Kirk Cousins
heard what I said, But it doesn't matter. Depending how
this game ends, depending where it goes, you can see
Cousins is really not where he was, and it's only
a matter of time.

Speaker 4 (12:37):
Find a little bit of rhythm on that drive, working
out of the shotgun, and just one one one thousand
and two one thousand, get rid of the ball right,
because if they're trying to wait for plays to develop downfield,
I don't care how good that offensive line is. He's
not mobile enough. We saw him try to skip to
the edge at one time play earlier in this possession
and to buy that extra second, and you could see

(12:59):
him his big exasperated sigh of relief. Then he got
rid of the ball just early enough because he heard footsteps.
So that part of the equation certainly is there. But
b John Robinson, he's already hit his over total for
the total yards here. You've got playmakers downfield. Pits made
a big catch down the middle. It's all about spreading

(13:22):
out getting the ball out fast. If you can do
that and start playing on rhythm and timing, be fine. Otherwise,
we look at the row of defenses that are coming
up for this squad, and that's where it's really curious
for me. You've got Kansas City next, then you're playing
New Orleans. That suddenly they've sold their soul at the
football gods or something, because that's two weeks of perfection

(13:45):
that they put out. Then you've got Tampa Bay, then
you get at Carolina, then you play Seattle. That defense
flies around, and then you're on the road at Tampa.
That's your next run of games. All you've got is
Carolina Circle and all of it. Unless you can fight,
Unless you can start finding more of these rhythm kind
of sequences that they just experienced here. That might be

(14:07):
the big exhale that as a team they needed. But
I don't know how how quick you how you can
do that? Possession for possession? Why doesn'tnybody go under center anymore? Really,
I feel like an old man, like, hey, you know,
just running the ball. We're just.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
Why worry about? Why make the guy go back anymore?

Speaker 4 (14:28):
The stats tell me that the run game can actually
help you win.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
We we saved no, I don't know if you know,
but we save approximately seventeen point six miles on a
quarterback's legs by not having him drop out. Well that's good.
So we already starting in the shotgut. So that happened.
So again they don't get the two point conversion. It
is fifteen ten fifty. I don't know anyway.

Speaker 4 (14:48):
Would this be a score Gami, It's it's fifteen to ten.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
They kicked, they would go. It's been a field goal game.
They decide to go anyway. This this game is going
to make your head hurt. So that's where we are
right now, nearing the end of the third quarter. But
day to Michael Pennix Junior era, look at you. You
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Jason Locking Forest Tops by NFL Inside are extraordinary. We
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(15:13):
time number one overall pick has already lost his job.
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Speaker 1 (16:39):
Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with my best friend
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near midfield. They trail the Falcons in a barn burner
fifteen to ten. The happiest people right now Falcon fans
Michael Pennock Junior, because he's probably gonna start soon. And
if you had the under I think that's everybody right there.

(17:00):
I think about.

Speaker 4 (17:02):
And if you made a provisional pickup of Briton Kobe,
I'm making that provisional pickup, all right. AJ Brown going
Monday night football, You're like, damn it, I don't have
another player.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
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Speaker 3 (17:37):
What's going on? Gentlemen?

Speaker 1 (17:38):
I well, look, first I want to make sure you're
okay there, because I know things haven't been going great
for the O's and boy, not exactly the start the
Ravens had in mind. So I'm hoping you're okay in Baltimore.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
Yeah, I mean quite a weekend. Almost got no hit,
almost got perfected by the Tigers on Friday night with
an opener, three different pitchers, and you thought that might
be the low point of the weekend. And then they
blow another ten point lead the Ravens do in the
fourth quarter, this time to the Raiders. So we got

(18:12):
to to talk about on the radio here at the
very least. But yeah, yeah, a lot of work for
these teams to do.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
You know. The thing for the Ravens is is sometimes
and it's something that comes up, is that early in
the season a team can suffer a loss and it
really takes them a long time to get over it.
And just the way they talked after the Chiefs game,
I can't believe they took the touchdown away. I thought
we won, that we were going to win the game.
It's like, Okay, I get that you were upset, but
you know, Isaiah likely was out of bounds. You could

(18:41):
see he was out of bounds. And the way they
couldn't really accept the loss, I wondered where they were
mentally for that being able to put that away and
get into this game against the Raiders and instead you
see they have no killer instinct and they blow that.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
Yeah, I mean, they built a team with a significant
offensive line hall, and they thought they could patch it
up with some mid round picks. But they haven't been
doing very well drafting and developing offensive linemen, not nearly
as well as they did under Ozzie Newsom. So they
don't have the guys ready to play. And the right

(19:17):
guard is not an NFL caliber right guard, and they're
rotating right tackles and teams that have elite pass rushers
have exposed them twice, and Michael Parson's is not too shabby.
So you know, that's undermining their entire offensive identity and
ability to do anything other than Lamar Jackson on scramble drills,

(19:37):
whether he keeps it or throws it. Derrek Henry's getting
hit in the backfield. He's not at the stage of
his career where he's running through two and three guys
like he needs legitimate holes to open up, and the
steam doesn't seem to fit him, and the offensive line
doesn't seem to fit him. And defensively, m McDonald look
his first five or six games running this defense was

(19:58):
it was difficult adjust meant for him, and he had
called play successfully at the college levels that always never
called plays. And they didn't get a Marvin Lewis around
here like they didn't get a Leslie Frasier around here,
like McDonald you know, got out them that in Seattle.
They didn't have any of that going on. So it's
it's it's talon error. And they've been very passive. They're

(20:21):
not very exotic. When they blitzed, they don't blitz that
much period. And Kyle Hamilton and Roquan Smith have been
complete nothing burgers through two weeks, which is kind of
impossible to consider when when you look at how you
know how much they change games and what force multipliers
they were in McDonald's defense. So this is, you know,
it's quite a desperation bowl here at Dallas. And normally

(20:44):
this is a game that I think the Ravens would
win handling and the generally the more physical team, and
I don't usually like Dallas against AFC North teams, and
I generally think Dallas is flagazy. But man, if your
offensive line is that far low grade, it opens up
a lot of avenues for the other team to beat you.

Speaker 4 (21:05):
Jason, we already have the the end at least short
term of the Bryce Young era. Dave can Alis not
able to work magic off the jump, and now it's
the end the Dalton era. How much was the invisible hand,
well maybe not so invisible hand of Tepper on this
one forcing the issue and the change.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
I mean, nothing's happening with that quarterback that the owner
isn't okay with. Man, if David Pepper picks you to
do a job, there's a pretty good chance you stink
at that job. Like that's especially if it relates to football. Obviously,
his businesses is whatever, you know, his hedge funds. I'm

(21:43):
sure there's plenty of people who are glad that, you know,
they work for him, and hey, the football people are too,
because he will pay you a lot of money. But
that's a joke operation. I mean, they've been outscored until
fifty to three in the first half of these games,
like this is the NFL. Man, that's that's not you know,
this isn't Friday Night, you know JV against the varsity,

(22:04):
Like it's not supposed to happen, and the quarterback was overwhelmed.
But I mean this coach was brought in to help
turn the quarterback around, and that experiment's over, you know,
after two games, and it wasn't even really two real
games because garbage time started in the third quarter in
both those games. So I don't know, man, Like they're

(22:24):
Here's what I know. Pepper as an owner has thirty
wins and seventy one losses. He has the lowest winning
percentage in the NFL since twenty eighteen when he took
that team over. And I don't think anybody who coaches
for him is going to win many football games for
quite some time. And I think the real question being asked,
and I've got a piece on this coming out in

(22:45):
the Washington Post tomorrow because I started talking to people
about it before the season started, is if this inevitable
happened and Bryce Young is considered not salvageable and this
is the worst team in the league, which means they're
picking first overall, and they take a quarter, is he
going to give that quarterback to Canalis? Or is it
another reboot? Like could it be another one and done?

(23:06):
And normally you would say that just doesn't happen in
this league, but I would point to a bunch of
things that David Tepper's done and say that usually doesn't
happen in the league either, So I stay tuned.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
No, no, we saw that with Wilkes couple of years ago.
I was thinking after today's press conference, when Canalis was
asked what role did David Tepper have in this decision?
He wouldn't say anything. It's like, yeah, okay, okay. And
also learning the lesson where he says yesterday, no, Bryce
Young is our guy. Bryce is our quarterback, and now
all of a sudden it's, oh, the next day, Bryce
is not our quarterback anymore. Like like you could, you

(23:35):
could tell how bad things are already, and they'll be
great when Shador Sanders comes in and Deon Sanders is
the coach next year, it'll be even better.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
Well, look, I don't see that team winning a lot
of football games. They don't have a discernible strength. I mean,
it is a terrible roster. Evaluators, people who watch them
in the summer, people who do this for a living,
you know, believe that that is the worst football team
in the NFL. I mean, they're not competitive at the
point of the tackle on either side of the ball.

(24:05):
It's a coaching staff that's probably a little bit overwhelmed.
Maybe a lot overwhelmed, you know, as one GM said
to me, like Canal has spent a lot of time
in Seattle, and those guys are pretty good at what
they do, and they didn't talk to them. Anybody other
than Temper talked to Canalis for his head coaching jobs.

(24:26):
So good luck.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
Jason locking for NFL Insider our guest the Jason Smithshire
with Mike Carmon live from the tirec dot Com Studios. Okay,
so yesterday we watched the Saints blow out the Dallas
Cowboys in the game, and I think shocked so many
of us. Was this, hey, everybody sleeping on the Saints,
or was this, Wow, the Cowboys really might not be
that good.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
I don't know, guys, I don't think the Cowboys are
very good. So that's baked into my cake. Like just
you know, that's just sort of my general feelings about
that franchise at any given time. As to the other
side of it, I'm not ready to buy the same yet.
I'm just not like they faced Week one that they

(25:14):
didn't face an NFL team, like they just get they
didn't face an NFL team, And you know, I think
Dallas is overrated, and I think Dallas got caught up
in a lot of their own bs about Week one,
but that was inflated. Dude, get two hundred and sixty
four net yards in that game, like Deshaun Watson pe
down his leg and the Cowboys field goal kicker was

(25:36):
kicking them from seventy five. I mean, not really but basically.
And so they won comfortably. But you know, and they
don't usually beat AFC no our teams, and for them
that was a big deal. They won on grass, right,
they won on the road. They beat a physical team
that had the number one defense at home a year ago.
And yeah, so what you know in the Saint time

(26:00):
and the ripped their face off. So I'm taking my
time with the Saints. I'm not a Dennis Allen believer.
I am not a Derek Carr guy whatsoever. And now
people want to anoint Quint Kubiak, like, okay, all right,
let's just let this play out a little bit.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
Well, then we can do the choose your own adventure.

Speaker 4 (26:18):
Are you a believer that Sam Darnold has found his
space or is it more fun or engaging to talk
about how the forty nine ers will have nobody left
to play by week six.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
Well, here's what I think. I'm I'm old enough to
remember the Vikings being in the playoff hunt until what
the end, basically week seventeen, week eighteen, and that was
juggling between three or four different quarterbacks, right, and then
finally going back to Dobbs against like Kevin O'Connell's legitimate.
And I'll tell you this, like Flores is no joke,

(26:51):
his defense is no joke. And Flores is now three
and oh, his defenses are three and oh against Kyle Shanahan.
They allow seventeen points a game to that Shanahan offense.
Like I know McCaffrey didn't play. McCaffrey did play when
they beat their ass in Minnesota a year ago, and
McCaffrey didn't do anything in that ball game, So he
got a little bit of secret salt there. And if
those teams were to meet in the playoffs, I don't

(27:13):
think cal Shanahan would be all that fired up about it,
even though he's facing Sam Darnold. So I don't know, man,
Like I like Minnesota's cut, Like I'm one of the numbers.
I'm putting some of my early bets end, Like I don't.
I mean, Minnesota's didn't two and a half at home
from Houston. Like I just told you that Flores owns

(27:34):
that Shanahan's system, right, Well, where did slow it come from?
Like what's he trying to run there? Where did Demika
ryans before? At San Francisco, it's that family tree, Like
I know C J. Stroud doesn't turn it over. Well,
Purty usually doesn't either. Like San Francisco, Yeah, they got problems,
like they were going to regress. They weren't. They're like
the Ravens. They weren't nearly gonna win as many regular
season games this year. They were going to regress. They

(27:55):
were going to have more adversity, they were going to
have worse injury luck. No way was McCaffrey staying healthy
three straight years, like so so far, Like it's you know,
I mean, that's a team I thought would step back now,
the team I felt would take advantages of rams. But
they've been completely obliterated by injuries already. But I didn't

(28:16):
think San Francisco was winning that division. And I'm still
far from convinced that they're gonna Maybe it's Seattle. I mean,
I'm not an Arizona guy whatsoever. I'm not a Kyler
Murray guy. I'm not gonna go crazy about one week.
But like I don't think that the door is wide
open for San Francisco to run away with that division,
even with the Rams having the start that they've had,

(28:37):
and obviously those two teams meet this week and that's
going to be a bit of a desperation ball.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
He's on Twitter at Jason Locke and four That is
at Jason Locke and four. Check him out on Odyssey.
Is big piece on the Washington Post coming out as well,
one oh five seven. The fan Jay is always Bundy.
Appreciate your time, my friend. We'll talk to you next week.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
Look forward to it. Guys, Thank you, see.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
You aboy had great stuff as always from Jason locking
for Look, we got more football coming up in a
couple minutes. But right now, let's find out what's trending
in the wide world of sports, because right now everybody's
mind is on one thing, and one thing only, that
Mets walk off win against the Nationals to give them
the sole lead for the third wild card. Steve Desager

(29:18):
has all the details. I'm not gonna be snarky.

Speaker 7 (29:21):
We're actually gonna get to that, because there's only two
weeks left to the.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
Major League Baseball regular season.

Speaker 7 (29:27):
What we're gonna lead with, actually is that nobody can
stop the White Sox. You can only hope to contain them.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
They won a series for the first time since twenty
seventeen this weekend late June.

Speaker 7 (29:38):
I think it was, but it just felt like that.
White Sox are leading seven to one in Anaheim, bottom of.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
The fourth against the Angels. Break them up just in time.
They gotta go what eight and six something like that,
eight and six to avoid the worst record of all time.

Speaker 7 (29:54):
They have one hundred, one hundred and fifteen losses. Yeah,
the record is one hundred and twenty losses, the expansion
me of the early sixties.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
Yeah, they have to go. Sorry, they have to go
and five, eight and five to just tie it, in
which case En is like, yeah, then what was this
waste something?

Speaker 4 (30:11):
Either fall short or break it, but don't talk. Okay,
that doesn't help anybody.

Speaker 7 (30:17):
Monday night football games at Philadelphia, and with under seven
minutes to go, the Eagles are back in the lead
eighteen fifteen over the Falcons. Atlanta had taken the lead
on a touchdown late third quarter went for two and
missed the pass. Philly answered, went for two and got
the run on second effort. Saquon Barkley with the two
point run. So eighteen fifteen, Philadelphia in the lead.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
You know, if Saquon Barkley could kick, the Giants would
have kept him.

Speaker 7 (30:45):
You know, for those who are aware of the Giants
gave yesterday, that's really.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
One to ponder. Actually he could kick, Giants would a
sign them woul have kept him.

Speaker 7 (30:53):
The injury yesterday was on the opening kickoff for a
Graham Gano of the Giants. He could miss a few
weeks with the Hams during injury. So the Giants worked
out four kickers today. So they missed three extra points yesterday,
a kick and a couple of two point tries, and
they lost by three. So their opponent only had seven
drives the whole game, but went seven for seven on.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
Field goals, including on the final plan. That's how they look,
I think. I read they were the first team in
NFL history to score three touchdowns, not give up a
touchdown and loose loose. Yes, I saw that's like, that
doesn't sound that's mathematically possible.

Speaker 7 (31:30):
I saw a stat that in this century teams that
outscored their opponents by three touchdowns had a record of
twelve hundred and one, and now it's twelve hundred and
two exclusive company. But my favorite stat from yesterday might
be as we get to the Bryce Young story, the
Carolina quarterback who yesterday was eighteen of twenty four passing

(31:52):
eighteen completions eighty four yards through the air. To have
eighteen completions and only eighty.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
Four yards, I think, wasn't that the White Sox record
at one point eighteen and eighty four? That's right, that
might have been as discussed. Yeah, The Jason Smith Show
with Mike Carmon live from the tirec dot Com Studios
coming up next, we continue on with the NFL. Something
I saw yesterday I hadn't seen in maybe almost twenty years.
That's next right here, Jason and Mike Fox.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
Wait a minute, matam minute, heh vitamin. It's my favorite
part of this song when bon jovies like he's out
of breath at the end, wait a minute, Holla, I
haven't singing a lot. Alright, alright, alright, Fox Sports Radio
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon,

(32:55):
live from the Tirec dot Com studios. Four minutes ago
in the fourth quarter, Eagle have the ball and the lead.
They are just outside the Falcons thirty yard line. They
lead at eighteen to fifteen, facing a third and two
of more in this game coming up in a few minutes.
I gonna tell you something, Mike, I can tell you.
I gotta tell you something I haven't seen in the

(33:18):
NFL in almost twenty years. Like I got to go
back to like two thousand and eight. In early two
thousand and eight, and that was when Joe Flacco came
elite tramatic. I thought he was a rookie like in
nineteen eighty six. I mean, I thought he turned forty
in two thousand and two, and now he's man. Is
that When the Jets got the ball in the fourth quarter,

(33:42):
I knew Aaron Rodgers was taking us down for a touchdown.
And I haven't had that feeling since Sanchez was No.

Speaker 3 (33:49):
No.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
Since the first half of Brett Farve's year in two
thousand and eight. That was a hell of a run
and then I was biceping end. Things are terrible. I
haven't just think about that. I haven't had a feeling
that our quarterback's taking us down and we're gonna score
and win this game. I have not had that feeling.
And Rogers was close enough to Aaron Rodgers Yesterda. There's
still a little bit that I'm a little nervous about.

(34:09):
He was a little jittery early. You know, the deep
ball wasn't really there. I didn't try to throw deep.
That's something we can get into. But I knew that drive,
we're getting a touchdown, we're getting a touchdown, We're going
up and the Jets defense now has to hold on.
But I've never had I've never had that where I
knew Rogers a quarterback, was going to do it. And

(34:30):
those couple of throws that he made. He made a
great throw to Garrett Wilson, made an incredible throw in
a catch by Mike Williams when the deep before the
defensive back turned around, and I said, this is something
I don't even know what this feels like to have
a quarterback that I can say, yeah, give me the
ball with two minutes left, We're getting down there, We're
going to score. I have never felt that, And that
was Aaron Rodgers in the fourth quarter yesterday.

Speaker 4 (34:49):
Yeah, I mean, we could do all the stuff on
driving and pushing the ball downfield, because there's a lot
of video in comparison that we can do between he
and where Captain Kirk is in terms of how they're
delivering the football, moving, et cetera. But yeah, having that
come on, that's the best feeling in the world as
a football fan. I was sitting in the it was
at Dodger Stadium. I ended up going to see the
Pink concert with my cousin was in town, right, you

(35:12):
met her on Friday, And I'm sitting there watching the
fourth quarter. While watching, You're like, what are you doing?
Everybody else ups sinking along. I'm like, I'm watching the Jets. No, no,
I'm watching at the end of the Bears and Texans
like come on now, and feeling that same thing. As
ugly as it had been for Chicago, there was still
just that bit of hope that you had that they
were gonna be able to make the one play and

(35:33):
come back and sting the Texans. Alas that did not
happen the chaos continues. We'll talk about that game in
a larger scale as we go on tonight, But yeah,
I mean that there's no better feeling in the world.
It's that and having a closure that you know is
going to finish a game if you were a baseball fan, right.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
Not exactly, that's just shot at t As you take
that back.

Speaker 4 (35:56):
I'd like to be in a position whereby my team
actually had to use a clothes because we've done it
all year long. They have more blown saves than wins
do my White Sox. Yeah, okay, so really I was,
you know, flogging myself there in.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
The moment as much as I was your guy and
Timmy l. Trumpet.

Speaker 4 (36:16):
But for the NFL, I mean, how many teams have
that no where you really feel like we got the guy.
I mean we're talking passing touchdowns, the passing touchdown tonight,
we're twenty twenty passing touchdowns behind what they did a
year ago. I guess what that was the lowest in
five years? Well like sixty seven or sixty eight touchdowns

(36:37):
for the week are for the first two weeks of
the season. So to say, yeah, I've got a quarterback
that's gonna lead me to the promise lane.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
Not many teams are able to say that right now.
It's just the confidence I know. I said, he's taking
us down and we're gonna score. I don't know how,
but we're doing it. And mainly what I like the
fact is I found that after the game is that
he was basically changing all the plays and calling his
own stuff. Like after reading read and listening to them
talk after the game, every big play was oh yeah, yeah,
well Aaron went to this at the line of scrimmage,

(37:05):
like the touchdown pass to brees Sall. Breesall said, Hey,
if I'm one, I'm on a linebacker, throw it to me.
Rogers said, okay, Breese Hall was one on one the linebacker.
He threw it to him for a touchdown.

Speaker 4 (37:14):
But that doesn't surprise this though, right like the veteran
quarterback that has seen it all, even though he's got
his NEPO Buddy Hacket installed that he has a title
and a name, Playton whatever else.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
You think. The plays come in as just suggestions. You
don't have to run it, But here's my suggests. Yeah
that's great, We're do this. Here's what I'm seeing.

Speaker 4 (37:33):
Here's two options. Rogers says with that, here's secret option.
See we're running this or Breecee Hall's they're drawing on
the field, saying here's what I can do. They keep
leaving me a ISO against a slow footed linebacker, give
me a chance.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
I have never had that feeling, and it was awesome.
I can't tell you what that.

Speaker 4 (37:53):
Positivity well, I mean, I saw you in the final
outs of the Mets game. I'd give anything to have
that level of to where I'm screaming like an idiot
and a WHOA wasn't a Ric Flair impression?

Speaker 1 (38:06):
Exit out Vata Fresca exit swollen Dome. Coming up next,
more on the Falcons and the Eagles, and two big
stories coming off a week two in the NFL. Fox
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