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Well in a game and a result that seemed all
too likely, the extender is in and the Celtics may
as well gotten on the plane two days ago. It's
a sixty one to thirty five lead at halftime for
the Mavericks. This game is pretty simple. The Mavericks are
playing with intensity. The Celtics are.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Playing like they're ready to go home and play again
on Monday night. Well, the ex pretty easy.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
You've got no role here because they've gotten absolutely bludgeted.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
This has even had to extend. No, he's had to
do nothing.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
And even if you were to make that argument that
he had, make the argument that he had been the
extender and been part of it, the Mavericks didn't exactly
take advantage of it, missing six of their sixteen pre
throws in the first half. So add it all up.
Just a miserable performance five of nineteen from three point
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range and being out.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Muscled in the paint by twenty two points. That just
being out everything.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
This is a team that, hey, look, the Mavericks had
a choice, right, you come into Game four, either we're
done or hey we give it one last effort and
show we can win a game here finals, you're at home.
They came out with an effort, right, Luca Dantis has
a lot to prove coming off the last game that
really you'll clinch their fate in the NBA Finals. Okay,
they came out to play big, and I felt like
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once the Celtics saw that that was the Mavericks team
coming in that the Celtics decided, okay, yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Well we'll see the Monday. Well, we'll see them.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
They're just not playing with the with the intensity, they're
not playing with the they're not answering the challenges the
Mavericks are putting forward with the way they normally would.
It feels like the Mavericks are dictating the game and
the Celtics are okay with it. And look, they're not
going to absolutely stop playing, but it's like, hey, if
they start missing a lot of shots, we can hit
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some threes, okay. But this is again like from the beginning,
like midway through the first quarter, this was okay, we'll
see in Boston on a Monday night for game a.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Couple of big shots to close out the first quarter.
Thirty four points for the Mavericks in that one, and
working again inside, you know, thirty four points in the
paint in the first half, and already back to the
free throw line of fall On Tatum. So yeah, this
one just feels like a hey, we wanted, we wanted
another home get along the way. It's curious, right, you
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had Wednesday where you had two theater, well, you had
a stadium, two stadiums full, right, you had the arena,
and you had the stadium full. One was the Brady
Dog and Pony Show, and then you had a viewing
party for the other game. And here we are a
absolute no show effort here. Hey, guys, what do you know?
(03:34):
Jason Tatum disappeared in a big game? Dude, Jason Tatum's
you know, Jayson Tatum's got fifteen.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
He's the only guy.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
He's the only guy scoring anything for the self. Guy
disappears in the biggest games.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
They're up threes it. Yeah, he's got his forty, he's
got fifteen. I mean, what else do you want? Nobody
else even has ten. He's got fifteen.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Come on, man, Oh.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Is that because he's not a Laker? Because it's because
he's a Celtic. You said you were crowning him a
little too early early in the week. It's it's three zip.
They're going good. Here's not great. He's not even the
best player on his own team. They're going home to
win on Monday night and win the championship. That's what
I gonna happen. You think they're not gonna win, But
know what.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
The door's open, doors open, now, let's go.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
The doors open let's go. You lit a fire under
Lucas ass after Windors tagged in and he became a
triple threat match of insiders guy with a Jason Kidd
talking about, hey, he's got a contract up, he got
shams and woes doing their slap fight h and showing
up on shows that they might not, you know, really
(04:40):
should be showing up on. So Wendy said, hey, what
about me?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Now, look, look, I'll tell you look the most interesting
part of tonight's game. And then this is pretty easy
the most interesting part because now it's you know, ESPN's like, hey,
it's three zip. Let's get some players on the set.
Let let's get some people on. So all the Clippers
are on the set. Congratulations. We've seen the Clippers in
June a couple of times. I ever get to the finals.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
I don't know, man, what's closer being on TV now
or clipped, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
They're both pretty close.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
So you have all these Clippers on and you have
Joel em beat on and the best part was when
Joel Ebid was talking before the game. He's started talking
about how, hey, you know, I really we know we're good.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
He hates Boston, yet you know, it doesn't really respect
them because everybody was hurt, including myself. But he goes
on to say, hey, you know I need some you know,
I want to get some help next year, and he
gives the quick side.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
I looked to Paul George, who was sitting right.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Next to him, which, honestly, that's the best part of
the game so far. I mean, I would have liked
I would have liked Joel Ebad to go just need
some help next year and just turn to go dude,
what do you think? What do you think, man, you
gonna come to the East. It's a lot easier in
the East, man. Look at the West. Look how hard
it's been in the West for you. A lot easier
in these Come on to the East man, God to
these go on work with me.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
I got Maxie. Doc is over in Milwaukee. Doc you
sure he's not coming.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Back to them and go through. But yeah, that that
little exchange was really the most entertaining part of it.
You know, oftentimes you get players up there and they're
not going to give you a whole lot. And eb
did a lot of belly aching. I mean, he played
he o, which is fine.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Yeah, I kind of do. Look because it is, and
we talked about it from the beginning, and that's what
what can't not be stated about this is that when
the whole playoffs started, right going back, what did I say,
If the Celtics don't win this year, they'll never win
and I will never pick them again, because I'll go
on my never again list, because this is the year
that in the regular season you were the best team.
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Every team you played to get to the NBA Finals
was injured, or teams that didn't get there to you,
they were injured as well. And now here you are
in the NBA Finals and you're up three to nothing. Okay,
this is everything is fine. This is a team that
they've been the best all season long. They should win
the championship. They will win the championship. Tonight is not
(06:59):
their night. I don't like them to come forth with
a little bit bigger effort going forward.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Well them disappear. This is how good? Dude?
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Again, he's got fifteen points. Man, he's got fifteen points.
How's that working out for him?
Speaker 3 (07:10):
He's got fifteen You.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Know what, you're just trying to make your head it'd
be sixty seven to twenty three, which I think is
the difference in age of Belichick and his girlfriends right,
sixty seven twenty two.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Actually, you make sure he's seven twenty three.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
And cross all your numbers to make sure that it
was three times sixty.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
No, I don't, I don't know what it is. You
just wait till he starts dating Gizelle. The opportunity has not.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Can you imagine TMZ gain this is your practice going
towards that. Here's a photo of Gisella because like, what
did what was the story yesterday?
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Right?
Speaker 4 (07:41):
They apparently Giselle and her boyfriend the ju Jitsu broke
up because of the fallout from the roast on the
jokes Tom Brady is gone. Well, mission accomplished too many
jokes about timing, too many jokes, not all that. Not
only did I win that one, and now they broke up? Okay,
I mean this is the roast.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Is the roast works a little bit more? Now? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (08:00):
I think now, now I do it where Tom might
have felt bad about it, I mean, look, he's still
gonna feel bad for kids, but I'm doing it.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Felt bad about that part of it? Yeah, maybe that.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Disciplined it went from I'm happy to do it, I'm
glad I did it.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Oh, I don't know that I would do it again. Now, No,
I'm really glad I did it. Now that's how it goes.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Wow. And then he made a great speech on Wednesday Nights.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
There he's victory laps all over it because if he
already knew at that point that Giselle was on the
outs with that dude, I mean, that's why he really
strode to the to the front of that stage after
Jay Z introduced him and.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
All, come on, now, let's go now.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
But look this game, it's seventy three to forty with
nine minutes to go on the third quarter, and we're
just we're just we're just.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
You know, punching a time clock on this game. Jason
Tatum's on the bench.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Now.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
The Celtics should, like I said, they should have been
on the playoffs four falls. So yeah, but loo he
benched him. But as far as dude, it's been it's
been like eight years since the Lakers were in the playoffs.
It's felt like that long. Okay, this has nothing to
do with the Lakers. Why are you bringing them into
this is the only and you're saying this is because
you hate the Celtics. That's the only reason why at all.
That's the only reason why to bring stats. The dude,
(09:06):
the guy disappears in every big game. What do you
want stats? Okay, okay, well what are you going stats?
What am I saying that's wrong about Jason? What are
you saying? What do he disappears everybody? What are you
talking about?
Speaker 2 (09:15):
The guy?
Speaker 1 (09:15):
The guy could He's one of the He's one of
the two favorites to win NBA Finals.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
MVP, I don't know. You're talking about the best player
on his team.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
You're just gonna keep moving the goalpost ont Jameson's thea
When you would take Jason Tatum instead of anybody else
on your team, you would take Jason absolutely absolutely would. Look,
the Celtics have been playing I don't know what's happening
last let him letting him bait you has have the
Have the Celtics lost a game since the Lakers don't
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have a head coach?
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Like? What? Like?
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Is that?
Speaker 1 (09:46):
How long they've gone on a win streak? The Lakers
fired their head and still don't have a head coach.
They still don't have one. It's been like months and
the eleven edge.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
I was really gotta open I mean, we'd get the
close out tonight. So all of a sudden that eleven,
right before we went off, we'd get to JJ Redlook I.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Was hoping to But look, but before he signed up. Hey,
by the way, on the new coach, I don't know.
I just know it's true hot take Frostburg.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
No, but look, But to go back to the embid
part of it is that, look, he understands it. Hey,
the East is still open even though the Celtics had
an amazing year this year and they've shown they're the
best team in basketball. Hey, if I could get a
little out now, not surprising, here's a beat.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
I need help, I need help.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
I have.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
How much more health do you need?
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Right?
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Like, how much more help do you need? You're a
guy that can't stay healthy. Uh, you've won the MVP,
You've had chances to win, you can't. You can't make
free throws at.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
The end of the game.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
You're tired at the end of games. Uh, you're tired
during the games?
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Like, how long?
Speaker 1 (10:42):
What's he gonna I need eleven guys, if I have,
if I had the dream team, then I would win.
I would win a championship. If I had the dream team,
around me, like I'd like to see who he'd pick
for his college player. That could be really controversial. No,
he would pick Caitlin Clark and then everything would be
oh yeah, I begin absolute but no. But he's right
when he talks about the East, because look, this was
(11:03):
a great year for the Celtics, right, it was a
great year for them. This is their year to win.
Forget about a dynasty. Although you look back and say,
this will be three years in a row of NBA finals,
Eastern Conference finals, NBA Finals, likely a championship, so you're
looking for that's a pretty big three year run for
the Celtics.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
But it's still open.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
It's not the case of like the Western Conference, like man,
it's loaded, like the Western Conference, open because anybody can
do it because it gets loaded, right.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
It's loaded three more teams on least.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
The East is much more fallible and there's many more
opportunities to get through the East. It's kind of the
path of least resistance. So I understand him. I understand
him talking about the Celtics where they are.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Understand him. Wanted to get more to understand all of that.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
But in the end, you still have to come back
and say, Okay, the Celtics still have been the best
team in the NBA also and that hasn't changed, like
the like they haven't they I don't know what else
people want this outside of a big night to night
which they've just decided we're packing it up and going home.
I don't know what else people want from the Celtics.
They it's through the regular season. They blitzed through every
team in the playoffs, and you know, they had a
(12:04):
chance to potentially sweep the conference finals and NBA finals
no one's ever done. But they decided we're fine. I mean,
they've really done everything you could ask of them, and
for a lot of pundits and and and experts, but
it's just not enough. They're just going to find a
way to be anti Celtics no matter what.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Well.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Tatum even said that when he was being asked, you know,
about the season as it stood by the media yesterday,
just like, well, you know, we'll have to do it
again because you know you're gonna say we didn't beat
this team or that team, or they were hurt or
like he lead late and straight out. And I love
the honesty of it, you know, not just hey, it's
it's fun to be on the precipice of winning, and
(12:42):
we look forward to, you know, raising that ban or
whatever and finishing the job. No, he started talking about
next year, and then he did a little bit of
a slap to the faces of the assembled media as
because that's what it's been. It's been discrediting all along.
You can only beat who's on the schedule. Okay, you
know we did this all the time, and to mix
and bring Brady and the Patriots back in, we always
(13:05):
did that to them. But it was never, Hey, Peyton
Manning's beating up on a bad AFC South except Tennessee
on once or twice and Jacksonville once maybe twice.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Otherwise they ran roughshot. Likewise, Drew Brees and the Saints
with Sean Payton. There were no challengers there except once
in a blue moon when somebody got hurt.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
All of a sudden it opened the door.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Yet they didn't get the same level of derision for
Tatum and Brown going back to last season, it was
all they can they coexist?
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Can they play together?
Speaker 4 (13:36):
And now as they stand at the end of this road,
you're still getting all the thought pieces of what might
have been if this guy hadn't gotten.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Hurt, well guess what he did.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
He did, and his teammate did, and this coach sucked,
and then Rick Carlisle couldn't finish games and his team
couldn't finish games in that round.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
That's the way the world works.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Exit out Bout of Fresca x swallen down The Jason
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seventy five forty two lead over the Celtics and Belichick
Belichick's girl for Oh no, No, Celtics have way more points.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Than how we'll go out for that Ratio's gone gone
tell So we'll have.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
More on this bud coming up next.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
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Speaker 1 (16:15):
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Speaker 4 (16:18):
Uh. Sometimes you just have to take the one on
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It's The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Carmen,
Live from the Tirack dot Com Studios. Yes, Game four
of the NBA Finals. If you can call it a game,
it is a thirty three point lead for the Mavericks. Somehow,
this third quarter is taken forever.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
The greatest thing would be, though, Jason, if we could
do minute by minute ratings.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
What is I mean? What is it? I mean this
third quarter?
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Like, come on, guys, the Celtics don't care, and like
there's been so many timeouts and stoppages, and I feel
like this game's gonna go like.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Four hours and it's eighty to forty seven.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Remember they also had what's seem to be a really
extended halftime.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
It was for a blowout.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Get me every other game that was the blowout the
other way, I was like, all right, here's a minute
of content and a lot of ads.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
This time, I'm seeing a lot of these guys.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
There's like nineteen people at a desk elbow to elbow, shoulder, shoulder.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
I don't know if they're all.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Wearing one top and just went over the top of
them all. I don't know, but it's just like, all
of a sudden, I'm getting a lot of deep thought
analysis over the fact that the Mavericks decided not to
go down quote went out a fight, and these Celtics
were happy to win it at home. There's your analysis.
Go back to another commercial, eighty to forty seven.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Again, the difference in age between Bill Belichick's okay, well
really really not. It's way more than you jealous, But again, no,
it's just studying. I'm like, wow, he really does Oh
like this start page six New York Post has It's
all over the internet now, Apparently Bill Belichick is dating
a former Patriots cheerleader. He's seventy two, she's twenty four.
(17:58):
He's no longer working here, you know he is.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
He is absolutely three times per age.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
I helped you do that. Math, that's pretty good. I
shoot your shot.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Yeah, because you said that, I said, oh my god,
he's like three times ras ago.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Oh my goodness, he's exactly three times, right, you said, yeah, yeah, Math,
you're right. Well, you know exactly three times.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Need to start firing. You took another sip of your kola,
and all of a sudden, it all worked.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
But yeah, I don't need to coach anymore. If I'm
seventy two ago, I don't need to coach anymore.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
You go, everybody out there across the globe on the
iHeartRadio app. However you're listening, Thanks for being part of
the extended family. Shoot your shot. Yeah, that's what's going on.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
But yes, we have a gambling story that is way
worse than anything we have seen so far in the NFL.
Since gambling has become illegal and Major League Baseball, the
Pirates minor leaguer last week got suspended for life for
gambling on games.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Right, we have seen some players.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Calvin Ridley got the one year suspension, We saw a
couple of other players get suspended for gambling. Basically, it's hey,
you can't gamble from the from the team facilities, and
when when you're placing your bets, this is not the
place to do it. It's been a deal, but I
don't think so far it's been anything that either Major
League Baseball or the NFL has felt we can't handle this.
(19:13):
We knew there's gonna be some people trying to gamble.
So far we feel pretty good.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
But it's also a as Todd Furman was with us
last Friday, you know, talking about the Padres and the
other minor leaguers, was the idea that, you know, you've
got the checks and balances and the fact that all
of this is above board, you're going to catch people right,
and it's.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Going to be a deterrence in theory.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
In theory because we have a story now that a
Major League Baseball umpire has been disciplined for violating the
league's gambling rules. This is ten days after the league
levied a lifetime ban. Yeah, on the pirates minor leaguer,
and again, I want to say right away it is
not Angel Hernandez.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Just saying it's not Angel Hernande.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
I know people think, oh, it's got to be Angel Hernandez,
wild the bad, not Angel Herne. Angel Hernandez is not
near this story. It is not near. It would explain
some of his calls. But he is not near this
story at all. He is not near this story. Is
not Angel mean to implicate the Padres. I'm watching him
losing to the Mets. It's not Angel Hernanda, not Angel.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Are you sure I am positive?
Speaker 1 (20:16):
I am positive Angel Hernanda under the name of No, No, No.
Fred Hoiberg gonna be he's the mayor. It is not
Angel Hernandez. He is not near the I look, he
is not in the story. Umpire Pat Hoberg. Now maybe
you say, wait, that name sounds familiar. This is because
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he was the guy that got the perfect score and
umpiring Game two of the World.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Series last year. He called every.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
Single pitch correctly, got every gout, every ball in every
strike right, a perfect game.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
For an umpire behind home plate. He is not umpired
this year, and obviously most likely because Major League Baseball
has been looking into him violating the league's gambling policy
and this is why you could talk about players get
but whoa, whoa, whoa when an umpire reference, which not
too long ago, we remember the Tim Donnegy situation. It's
why would we see stuff like Scott Foster's out a game.
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The NBA knows who they're sending the games. Okay, they
really want to see a game five. They're sending the
extender right, which which you know there's there's an angle
of that as well. But when you're talking about an
umpire who has gambled on games like this is a
guy that understands and knows and and and we don't
know any details as.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
To what what he has gambled on. He hasn't been
on a field all year. He called the perfect games.
So in theory you could have just said, hey, he
was retired, because I mean, how do you improve on perfection?
Speaker 3 (21:38):
You're done.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
He's only been umpiring for seven years full time in
twenty seven. He's got a full pension. You know what,
you're gonna take it early retire? No, No, you get
a full pension at seven years. I think he had
to go at least ten on it. Ten you got
at least ten because usually it's one rules for perfection.
All I'm trying to say, first perfect game, we can retire.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Wait, he's going to be h He's going to be
in trouble for violating rules.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
You know, we're just gonna say he went out with
his perfect game.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
I mean, this is way worse than any player, because
this is someone who has more control over the game
than anybody else, the home player, especially the homeplayed umpire,
first base umpire, third base umpire. Now we don't know
what he's gambling on, but does he know certain umpires
and what they like to call? And hey, this umpire
hates this pitcher. So we're gonna find out, like the
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sausage is made really poorly. And oh yeah, I knew
to bet Angel Hernandez when Madison Bumgardner pitches. I knew
to bet against Madison Bumgardner because and I'm just throwing
names out there. I'm just using names to make my
example here, Like Angel Hernandez hates Madison Bumgardner. So anytime
Bumgarner would pitch, Hey, I'd bet on that game because
I know he's not going to give Bumgarner anything. Like
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there's certain things like that. Forget about the whole Hey,
I'm calling balls and strikes. I'm Leslie Nielson in Naked Gun,
you know, not quite that, but just the stuff that
he might know that he's throwing this out there. I mean,
that's crazy because if you're player, at least if you're
a player, it's you. You can only control so much,
and you control what you do. You don't control what
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anybody else does you control you doing. You're one player.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Now if you're a pitcher, it's a little bit bigger
deal because you have more control over the game pictures
and catchers have the most control over the game.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
But it's still you only control so much. You're in
the umpire. You don't control everything. Like to have an
authoritative figure that suddenly, hey, you're the one who has
violated rules, It's like, whoa dude, this is this is.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
A really this is where major league baby, Okay, this
is where this is something that we really have to
get into and show everybody that baseball is safe. Right,
umpires are safe. The guy hasn't humped, so you know,
something that's got to be going back to last year
that wow, he umpired the World Series and this was
going on then because the guy's not been you know,
umpiring now, so this is something. Major League Baseball's got
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to come out and say, hey, well, you can't just
broadbrush this and say here's what all played.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Umpire that was no, this is this is what he did.
This is how we control it. Everything is fine. Major
League Baseball is safe. You can invest in us like
a bank. Hey, you know, I know we lost money
and you know we got robbed or whatever it was.
You can bank with us. Banking is safe, you can
do everything like. Baseball's got to get into this now
because this is a Donnegie situation that is not going
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to bring trust in the game. Defense.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
You tried to bring Uncle Billy in from It's a
wonderful life. I see what you did there. Financial insolvency. No,
what's curious in their statement though, like there's no specificity
potential violation of MLB's sports betting policies as we talked
talked about, there's a lot of angles to that in
terms of time, plays, down, distance, other games, et cetera.
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While MLB's investigation did not find any evidence that games
worked by mister Hoburg were compromised or manipulated in any way,
MLB determined that discipline was warranted mister Hoburg has chosen
to appeal the distermination and therefore we're not commenting any furthers.
So you know, you leave it in this nebulous form
of all right, you're off the field, So it goes to.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
How far does it go?
Speaker 4 (25:01):
Right and immediately because you start thinking about other umpires
being implicated or their tendencies.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
That you know he's just aware of.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
As you alluded to, player beef right, Scott Foster, Chris
Paul one of the great beefs in the NBA for years, right,
and always going back and forth, some players coming back
actually advocating for Scott Foster, which is kind of funny,
knowing he'll he'll referee a game and you may not
have to try to catch a pass from Chris Paul.
But in this there's just so much unknown of He
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was still on the field for a World Series. You
laid it out, he called the perfect game, Like if
you had any inclinations on any of it at that point,
he's not on the field, he's gone, and you're you're
getting past that. Now he got a perfect game. That's great,
but it's still all right, what are your processes? This
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comes up during spring training? How does this get alerted.
You suddenly have someone you know, looking to bounce their
way up into the rotation of crew chiefs and stuff
and goes, oh, I've got some information. I'm just curious
how this, you know, what was brought to light to
Major League Baseball in their offices to even start investigating.
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You know, where's the smoking gun in this process?
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Yeah, if there's certain gambling you can blow off, right,
like for instance, right we talked about the minor league
for the Pirates last week that that got caught.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Like if you're if you're.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Injured and you're not playing and you're gambling and you
keep losing, the way that tucapet Marcano was doing. Uh, Okay,
you know this wasn't a guy that was playing one
hundred and fifty games a year. Okay, that's fine because
the leagues know coming in, Okay, when gambling comes, we're
not Pollyannas where we just think that everything's gonna go great.
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We know some people are gonna be stupid and they're
gonna try to make money. They're gonna gamble. We just
have to hope and police it that it's not star players,
it's not everyday players. It's not players gambling games. They
played it like there's certain gambling you can get by,
but when it's an.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Umpire like this is like like like I get that.
You you you.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Want to make sure that everybody you know is treated
fairly and equally. But if you're I'm sorry, you can't
bound baseball games.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
I mean not even legally. Do that, kid? Do that?
This is I want to go back and watch eight
Men Out again. I mean, I really I want to
do I want to go I.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Mean, this is this is crazy when you think that
here's an umpire and again people don't know his name,
but remember we just told you World Series he was
the perfect game umpire and that usually a think Jim Joyce,
that's the imperfect game Umpire. This is the perfect game umpire.
Who was like, oh yeah, now he's caught up in this.
This is this is something that Rob Manford and I'm
hoping that he embraces this, but again, he doesn't want
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anything to be on his MLB tombstone, on his Wikipedia
page it shows anything other than hey, pace of play
was great and everybody made money. He's got he's got
to really show and be public with this. You can't
bury this story. I mean the fact that this comes
out on a Friday night on during a game during
the NBA Finals, What does that tell you that where
Baseball wants to go out the story?
Speaker 3 (28:11):
But this is like whoa what umpire betting on the games?
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Whoa?
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Whoa?
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Whoa?
Speaker 3 (28:15):
What umpire? Who was umpiring in the World Series?
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Whoa?
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Whoa?
Speaker 1 (28:18):
And if you're umpiring then and you're gambling? What does
that mean to other people that umpires? Are they gambling
on games that you're umpiring? Because you know that. I mean,
there's so many things that it's not just hey, here's
a guy, Ball's coming right down the middle, Come on
up ball to no.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
But that's the point like that, I stress from the
what we did get in the statement from Major League
Baseball is that there's no appearance of impropriety in games
he umpired.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
So like, okay, how big does this get.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
In terms of can you prove knowledge and cooperation with
other umpire?
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Right? What are the tendencies?
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Is?
Speaker 4 (29:02):
You know, can you do like they do for all stats? Right,
anything that that happens in a game we've got all
the statistical pulls. Is the first time this has happened
since blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Can we do that with umpires like that that he knows?
Speaker 4 (29:14):
Hey on and you know every other Tuesday he calls
more strikes than balls, thereby keeping the keeping the hitters
you know, on their toes, and being more aggressive at
the plate, thereby creating more run scoring.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
I mean, I don't know, like it's really.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
A curiosity because again, nothing that he umpired. So is
Angel Hernandez down gonna get in snare?
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Why? Because you did it first? I just thought on it.
I did a call back to you. I just had
to make sure people knew he was nowhere near this story.
Yet he's no.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Right now, he is not because if I said to you,
you know people are talking this we go hear that
story about the Major League Baseball umpire, Go got caught
gambling when he shouldn't.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Oh Angel people, Angel Hernandez. Why is that why he
was tired? Stop? But it's not.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
He is nowhere near this story I was is not
near the story.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
He's not. But there may be other umpires that become
part of this.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Like I said, we talked about there's some different nuanced
things that could happen, whether it's people he knew, people
knew him what he knows about umpires and how they
feel about certain pictures.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
It's all out there, man, he was safe.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
Well, Angel Hernandez blew the call and the infield being
back should have cost him the game.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
It didn't.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Well that should tell you right there. Gambling betting on
the White Sox not good for you.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
You have got to be canned. Made for you.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
U exit call by Hernandez mona Fresco exit swollen down.
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Tim Hardaway Junior heard all your slam of not scoring
for a month. Oh he scored nine points in the
last fifty seconds of this game.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
You know the number of people who have been tweeting
the last couple of games.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
But Hardaway Junior in like suddenly hit the other way.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Yeah, like Lebron is on the bench and they're not playing.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
They immediately cut you a image of his old man
sitting there.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
That's my gad.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
Maybe he's gonna get in the game, maybe not. Maybe
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coming up next, speaking of blowouts, we into a big
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quarterback after yesterday, but it really didn't. That's next right here,
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Jason and Mike Fox.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
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Speaker 1 (31:52):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best
friend Mike Harmon livemthatirack dot com studios where Tim Hardaway Junior. Okay,
just think about this for a second. Yeah, he hasn't
scored in like two and a half months. In six
minutes tonight, since he's come into this game for the Mavericks,
since the game has been over for a good couple
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of long time. Now he's got fifteen points.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
Yeah, five minutes, five of six from three point range.
He's also added three rebounds and an assist.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
More than his next career. Ah, it may be, it
might be. It might be. He's plus thirteen on the night.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
And oh, by the way, the Mets closed within two
games of wild card spot as they just close out.
They finished that off two to one. Narco comes in strikeout,
leaves the tying run at third.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Mets win.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
Yeah, I was just win talking to Frostburg. He was
having the Sophie's choice kind of thing. No, no, he'd
rather have you miserable with Diez blowing a save on
a Friday night. No, no, no, he wants there and Padres
to look. We had a conversation Pod. He wants Padres
to look. You say it like I'm scared of the Padres.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
What I'm saying you want the Poday to lose yet,
So there there's more hatred for the Padress to the
Padres would be good.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Yeah, that's win. Me's win another not JD.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Martinez to run double only two runs of Mets need
there we go here come.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
He's really looking good for the trade deadline.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
But no, I mean like so many teams are within that,
you know, shouting distance to that second wild card.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
That's why it's a great.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
Move for Major League base So overall, even if you
had to suspend it on.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Fire, you had a great day.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Uh now again one fifteen seventy four, Dallas leads Boston
right now, four and a half to go in the
fourth quarter of more in Game four of the NBA Finals.
If it merits, because again, it's been over since the
beginning because the Celtics decided we don't need to show up.
But there's been a lot of conversations about, boy, you
know who's got to be the happiest guy in the
world after yesterday?
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Is Dak Prescott? Right?
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Because Trevor Lawrence ridiculously gets a fifty five million dollar
year contract extension, two hundred million dollars guaranteed.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Yeah, I still don't have a problem with it.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
And now he's he's at the top of the food chain.
He and Joe Burrow have the highest contracts at per
year in NFL history.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
So all but for.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Dak here it is Dak is good. Oh, Dak's gonna
make good. Let me tell you nothing has changed for
Dak Prescott. Nothing has changed. If Dak Prescott gets the
Cowboys to the NFC title game, Jerry Jones will gladly
give him money. Doesn't matter. Jerry Jones has never been
shy about paying players, paying guys. He wants to believe me,
he wants the headline of, Hey, I want to have
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my arm around Dak when I give him sixty five
million dollars a year, whatever it's going to be. But
Dak is in such a proven year where it really
doesn't matter. Now if he has a great year and
falls short again, the Cowboys have already decided. Jerry Jones
has already been okay with Hey, we're okay with allowing
him to play it out and lose him.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
You would sign him if you wanted to keep him.
You're okay with losing him.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
So yesterday, Hey, it's a great day for all quarterbacks,
but Dak dec Dak h. Yeah, good luck with Dak
trying to get whatever he can from the Giants next
year or whatever other, whatever other team he winds up
going to in free agency, because nothing has changed for him.
The Cowboys have not to Oh, Jerry Jones made a mistake,
because they should have signed when it was cheaper. I'm
gonna give Jerry Jones a benefit of the doubt that
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he kind of understands where salaries are going in the
NFL and what it is to pay for a quarterback.
I don't think he just woke up today going boy,
I should have signed the guy all a year ago.
I wouldn't have to give him fifty five million enough,
because the other option is you're not giving him anything
and you're starting over with somebody else that you are
paying less money to for less amount of time. I'm
pretty sure Jerry Jones knew exactly where the quarterback salaries
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were going and how they were going to be and
what it was going to be to keep Dak Prescott.
He had every chance to sign it right if he
wanted to. He didn't because he's okay with letting him go.
Nothing has changed for Dak in the last day, despite
the fact Trevor Lawrence signed this deal.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
If he's great and the Cowboy, but the Cowboys got
to win the playoffs because he's been the reason why
they're out of the playoffs the last two years. He
has had two craptastic games that have knocked them out.
That's such a big deal. The Cowboys are ready to
turn the page on Dak. They're ready to go. So
if that happens, everything is still out there. As we said,
nothing changed for Dak Prescott yesterday. Yeah, I mean, you
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go through it and he got a little bit of
a hall pass going into the offseason because the defense
was so historically bad. But guess what it was all
short drives by the offense that just put the ball
back on the other side and put the defense back
at risk and you know it was a snowball that
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you know became an avalanche and a blizzard. So you
get the Utah team in while we can't. I'm just saying,
I'm gonna go to dairy queen, though I would like, there's.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
None near but nearby me. Oh, we can't get it.
One of the cement.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
They're so good, queen. Yeah, no, that's good stuff. Not
a sponsor yet. But when you said Blizzard, and I
know what I got you fired up. But Blizzard but
not Wizard Blizzard. You said Blizzard. Yes, the Wizard would
not make me want to have ice cream. Blizzard makes
you want to have a Blizer. Could have said a
lizard and you get hungry, no liverd flavor.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
No, then I would think about Porzingis and him not playing. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, Blizzard,
it was a blizzard.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
Yeah. See Steve collapse along too. Everybody's in on it.
But it's the question of what do you do with
him going forward, because you can always franchise tag him.
He won't be happy maybe, but you get it one
year and just kick that can down the road. In theory,
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you're also making your team better around him while not
paying him. Now, the Lawrence deal doesn't actually kick in
for another couple of years, so that's been lost. It's
not like he immediately walks in and he's making fifty
five this year. But for the price of poker keeps
going up. We watched the trajectory of quarterback salaries. We
know the salary cap keeps rising, so all of it ergo.
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Jerry Jones has people on the staff that have kind
of convinced him not to pay Dak and go against
his former habit of doing things, you know, like chasing
Zeke down to Mexico.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
He knows exactly what he wants to do with Dak Prescott.
He knows exactly what it's gonna be. A year of
you got to prove it all the way until Game
seventeen and then you'll get paid.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
If not, somebody else will pay you well.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
And if nothing else, it's gonna be Micah versus CD
versus Dak, and we'll see who wins that triple threat match.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Exit out about a Fresco exit swelling down the Jason
Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon coming out
next more on Game four of the Finals and a
big NBA hot take, Fox,