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Jason Smith and Mike Harmon are LIVE with all the BIG reaction coming off Week 7 in the NFL. Plus, visits from NFL Insider Jason La Canfora and Lions linebacker Jack Cambpell.

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Speaker 1 (00:31):
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way tire buying should be. Well, here we are drop
smack dab into a huge night in sports. Two Monday
Night Games, Game seven of the ALCS, the biggest sports
night in Seattle sports history. You have the Mariners on
the cusple potentially going to the World Series. You have
the Seahawks at home with a quarterback who's decent, ready

(01:14):
to play Monday night football. This is a big, big,
night for Seattle. My friend, I like.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
That you just categorized him as he's decent in today's
NFL Sam Darnold Stanza among the gods.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Clearly the city of Seattle chose to keep the right
geno Ja Gino Suarez. They let got rid of Gino Smith.
It's a one geno town in Seattle. They kept the
right one.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
Still didn't think going off to the desert that he
would find the fate of so many who have and
it's long and uh problematic history. But he found that
cliff over over there, didn't Gino Smith.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
But yes, Suarez, here's the cliff I'm going over it.
I'm going over it right now, doing over the falls
and a barrel.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
Hey, yeah, no, it's it's not gone well there. But yeah,
for Seattle, three to one here bottom six, Vladdie Guerrero Junior. Up,
we've got doubleheader Monday night football. I mean, there's a
huge weekend. College football was getting crazy. The NFL might
have been even crazier. So yeah, fantastic to be in.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
So let's start with Game seven of the ALCS before
we get to the NFL. Right now, Seattle leads Toronto
three to one and one thing you have to understand.
People can't titner and tell me other way. Home runs
in the playoffs are not overrated. If you're gonna win
World Series, you have to hit home runs. That's how
it goes. In the playoffs. Runs harder to come by.

(02:36):
Teams can hit home runs wind up winning. What do
you see tonight? So far? The team hitting home runs
is winning this game. Big home run from Jay Rod,
big dumper. But it's the stars that are coming through,
right These are the guys that have to hit. But
I mean, really, you know, and when you look at
the matchup that could be coming up with the Dodgers,
I mean, look the Blue Jays, just Rake Vlad Guerrero
is having a playoff that is just unreal so far.

(02:58):
But you have home run hitters on the Mariners up
and down the lineup, like this is gonna be some
kind of seven game series no matter who winds up
coming out of this, because both sides can hit, both
sides can hit home runs. But you see tonight the
Mariners have two home runs and they are now counting
outs in the bottom of the sixth inning. To get
to the Worldla.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
You go all the way back to the first inning,
you have the opportunity to make some hey right, the
Mariners get on the board first, Jay Rod with the double,
the lead things off. He comes around to score, and
then you start getting base runners. You have some nervous moments.
You can't do anything but scratch out one and then
it's been a clean sheet ever since. Kirby's calmed down

(03:36):
and was strong. Now you get Wu out of the
bullpen where he had a fantastic regular season, So now
you're you're in trouble. Cal Rawley with that that home run,
we just looked at each other like that was a
no doubter. Yeah, all right, that was the give me
the next ball response from the pitcher. Not a hey,
I hit it into the nachos and out of a
stadium like jo Hey did the other night.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
But a no doubt or.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
And suddenly things getting a little tight. They're in terms
of the puckering for the Blue Jays fans, but the
bluep and of blast that that's all it is, right,
keep it within a slam and you've still got enough
big thumpers to come through this lineup to try to
make some ay, and it's it's a bigger lift mentally,
for a team, it's it's it's a bigger lift when

(04:20):
it's the Stars hitting home runs, right, when it's when
it is Jay Rod coming through, when it's big Dumper
with a home run, like, it's a bigger it's a
it's a bigger lift, it's a bigger thing when those
are the guys hitting them, rather than hey, hey, well
but we get a home run from the number eight hitter.
Well that's great, but boy, that's unexpected. It doesn't feel
like it's real.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Oh what's that? So when you and your stars are
coming through, that is a much bigger deal. And again,
here we are in the sixth inning. Now, still a
lot of game left to go, but it is a
three to one game for the Blue Jays trailing that
it's Mariners right now just watching base at the center
field us put a runner on base here in the
bottom of the six, one out, one on. We'll have

(04:58):
more on baseball as we continue to cover this throughout
the night.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
I thought it was more demoralizing and had a longer
reaching effect when it was the number nine hitter. Yeah,
all right, we're just psychologically of like, god, damn it. Wait,
we haven't even gotten hit by these guys yet, right,
because that was the theory, and it's all all great
in theory with the Dodgers. Hey, these guys aren't hitting well,
it doesn't matter because you're getting beat up by the
rest of these guys. They're picking up the slack. Oh yeah,

(05:23):
and you're not hitting worth a lick against their starting pitching,
including the guy that hit three home runs in Game four.
But all of that's to say, you know where we
see the stars come out and made. That's better for baseball,
There's no question about that. Right, More guys to put
up on the marquee. So again, we'll have more on
this again. One out, one on bottom of the sixth inning,

(05:44):
Seattle leads Toronto three to one, Game seven of the ALCS. Meanwhile,
Game one of Monday Night Football and not going at
all how we thought it was gonna go.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Unless you're expecting big things from Jamior Gibbs. Well that's
a given about four minutes to go in the fourth quarter.
A little over four minutes and Detroit leads Tampa Bay
twenty four to nine. Jamiir Gibbs having an unbelievable night
right now for the Detroit Lions. He's got a forty
point Fantasy Night. He's run for one hundred and thirty
six and two touchdowns, including a seventy eight yard also

(06:16):
caught three passes for eighty two yards. Look, we are
in a new era of the new dominant running backs
in the NFL being Bijon Robinson and Jamier Gibbs. Right
we have the peaking Jonathan Taylor right now. But when
you're talking about you guys coming to the cap, but
McCaffrey's nearing the end, he's nearing thirty, and you know,
Taylor's been around for a few years. But you're talking about, Okay,

(06:37):
who are the next great running backs? And the game
is in the great hands of these two guys. We
had Bejon Robinson last week, We've got Jamiir Gibbs tonight.
But you know, more so than that is Jamiir Gibbs.
And it's kind of fitting that he plays for the Lions.
He's probably the closest thing to Barry Sanders that we
have seen in in maybe twenty years, because there's not
been a guy this electric and this good where you

(07:00):
get him the ball and he is a threat to
go to the house every single time you hold your
breath and if you're a defense, you are absolutely frantic
because he doesn't look nobody has the moves of Barry Sanders.
No one's bed able to have that right and what
he's able to do his acceleration. I mean, Barry Sanders
the best running back I've ever seen. But you talk
about a guy where every time you give him the ball,
you hold your breath. There's great running backs, right Tae

(07:21):
Kwon Barkley amazing year last year, but the electricity of
House every single time he touches the football like he's
the closest thing to Barry. He had a couple of
moves tonight that are just subtle moves where a defender
looks like he's got him and he just gives him
kind of this subtle like slide step or just a
quick jab step and he's gone. And it's not even

(07:43):
where the defender can reach back and not hit him
square or just gets up a hand on him. This
is I'm not even touching him, like Jamir Gibbs is
just that electric. I don't know. I mean, look, we've
had guys that are fast. We certainly have had game
breakers at running back, like Chris Johnson was so incredibly fast,
and then he got paid and decided I don't to
be a running back. I can just get the ball
and fall down. He did that, He just got the

(08:04):
ball and fell down. That was Chris Johnson. But the
overall talent level with with Gibbs, both in the in
the running game, in the passing game. I mean, really,
he is the closest thing to Btry Sanders we've seen
in a long, long.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
Come on, all of these games count. You're saying that
guys are mailing it in. What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (08:21):
These are all important? I got paid. Every one of
them is like a playoff game. I'm mailing it in.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Guys played to the final out, to the final at bat,
to the final whistle and kneel down all those things.
So whis so yeah until some guys on the sideline
yelling whistle. But yeah, Chris Johnson certainly a tale of
two careers there.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
Yeah, you know I might. And now I'm just gonna
hold the football with both hands, run into the line
and fall down like That's what Chris Johns did once
he got paid. This is what I'm gonna do. I'm
not even gonna hide it, not eve gonna hide it.
It's gonna run the line and fall down. It's a
I'm gonna do now. I want to go back in
the the addles of history for what he did all
those years again. First carry after he signed his contract,
two hands go on in the line, fall down, that's

(09:03):
still two plus yards. I mean he was six feet tall. Good,
what do you got for Frostburg? You know who's not
coming on the show postgame? Who's not coming on the show.
The mere Gibbs here there you go.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
Anyway, the guy that I immediately went to, and it
was a short lived things, a flash, and certainly the
touchdown number wasn't there, but was Jamal Charles maybe a
little bit of preest homes for a bit before. I mean,
look all those guys then then fell apart fairly quickly
because back then you used them up in college, Joe,

(09:34):
they all had so they they And.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
That was the thing with Chris Johnson.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
You're wondering, like, all right, where's that cliff based on
the amount of carries and touches he had year to year.
But but yeah, watching Jamiir Gibbs in this offense, it's
really something special. And then when David Montgomery comes in
around the goal line. Everybody else pass to throw a past.
Come on, what are you doing?

Speaker 1 (09:58):
You're doing? What are we doing it? Now? The flip
side of this and here's here's your big take from tonight.
Baker Mayfield has stunk out loud tonight in this game.
Now the Lions defense, and clearly why not right, why
not start with the bank forget about being a head coach.
It is quite clear that the Lions may have upgraded

(10:18):
at defensive coordinator off last year with Aaron Glenn. I mean, really,
you look being a head coach, like this is a
Lions team that's in the in the top ten overall
and yards and total yards and total defense, and and
they're in the top five as far as turnovers go.
They are getting the football. Look at the Jets. They
can't get any turnovers at all. They have one, yeah,

(10:42):
turnover through seven weeks. Like it is clear, it's impressive
the Lions have upgraded defensively as as Aaron Glenn went
and took the head coaching job of the Jets, Like,
I think that's clear. You see how you see how
well their secondary is playing up on the Buck White side.
Fantastic tonight. Now they are dinged up and and egg
Book has been after an injury, ranches out right and
Evan's got hurt, right, So there is it is a thing.

(11:04):
But they I can't They are playing extremely well and
look clearly that that's a deal for the for the
Lions because they've upgraded with that without Aaron Glenn. Like
Aaron Glenn may not work again in the NFL after
the Jets fire after this year. But how much money
did he make on that TikTok video dancing? I hope
he mayn't get paid. But Baker Mayfield really has been

(11:26):
terrible tonight. He has been off. He has been throwing
the ball high all night. Guys that are open. Test
Johnson is having a night where it's like, my goodness,
look at Test Johnson doing having a night like this,
and Baker Mayfield is throwing everything five feet over everybody's.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
Well, he should have had a touchdown on their last
possession to make it a one score game. Uh, and
well he overshot him.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
He missed by four yards and he and he throws
it ten feet over.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
His scraping across the end zone wide open. Just need
to lay it out and miss him entirely. Oh for seven.
Uh at last count on pass his own over twenty
yards and that seems to be rising up. And now
they're just teeing off on him. He's been hit repeatedly,
four sacks on the night. Number of knockdowns here coming
up late, just two fourteen on his forty nine attempts,

(12:14):
a touchdown and a pick.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
Yeah. I mean, I want to give the Lions credit
because they are playing well, but this is just so
uncharacteristic from Baker Mayfield. I mean, everything is sailing like.
He looks like a guy that hasn't had like you know,
he looks like he looks like when a team has
to change quarterbacks early in a game because somebody gets
banged up, and here comes somebody without a lot of reps, okay,
and they're throwing the ball wild all over the field

(12:37):
like he's got guys that are open. This should not
be a twenty four to nine game. This should be
a close ish kind of game. But instead they're gonna
wind up. They're gonna wind up losing this game, and
not even in ten points, and it's gonna be what happened.
Baker Mayfield's gonna say I missed a lot of throws
in this game because he's missed guys, he's had chances,
he's held onto the ball too long, he's tripping in

(12:59):
the hocket and getting sacked like this is this is
the absolute worst game I've seen Baker Mayfield play in
quite a long time. Yeah, I mean, I don't know
the last time he's played this bad.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
I don't know if he's gonna go to the podium
and say he was seeing ghosts or hearing footsteps all
but he's been playing with a bit of happy feet
and sailing the ball, and I get it fight or
flight response, and everybody's gonna have an off night. This
is the first time that we've really seen them miss
Bucky Irving for a full game. Right, There's been spots,

(13:30):
but Rashad White just ten of thirty eight. Now, the
fact that you get punched in the face early by
this Detroit offense certainly doesn't help matters. Jared Goff to
forty one an ice pedestrian, steady as you go kind
of night.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
I don't know that second pick that kind of kept
the game close. I'm like, Jared Goff, what did you
see on that?

Speaker 4 (13:48):
Man?

Speaker 1 (13:49):
What did you see? Like that was where the game
could have been over end of the first half, you're
going up seventeen nothing. Instead, the Bucks get the ball back,
kick a field goal, and then the game is, you know,
in doubt. I mean it's not in doubt anymore. The
Bucks go for it on fourth down, can't get it.
Two minute warning. Is a twenty four to nine lead
for Detroit.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
I'm on ross A Brown steady as they go six
eighty six and one. But when you look at Jamiir
Gibbs all the way well exceeding the two hundred yard
total yard mark.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
So we'll have more on these games coming up. We
just kicked off in Seattle. Double things going on right
now in the city. I don't know, I don't know.
I gotta think more people watching the Mariners.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
Oh yeah, absolutely, Maybe they don't even know the Seahawks
cook The over under was like forty and a half.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
Yeah, they're watching the big dumper exit out out of
Fresca exit Swallen Dome. We'll have more on these games
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Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best friend
Mike Harmon on camera, bottom of the seventh lead off
walk for the Blue Jays, trailing three to one the Mariners,
nine outs from the World Series, but still one more
time through the order for Toronto at least. Meanwhile, Zach
charbonay touchdown run has the Seattle Seahawks up seven to

(17:20):
nothing over the Texans. Texans of the ball near midfield
midway through the first quarter. It is over, mercifully for
Baker Mayfield in Detroit the Lions. When at twenty four
to nine we talked about it a few minutes ago,
Baker Mayfield looked absolutely awful. Tonight the lines defense looked tremendous.
Aaron Glenn now overrated as a defensive coordinator in nbing

(17:42):
awful as a head coach. So there's that wow. Joining
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Speaker 4 (17:57):
Man? How are you, Hey, what's going on? Jess?

Speaker 1 (18:01):
What au so? I mean, busy night for you tonight?
Would want to bet like what you did? You have
a bad Can you actually bet Baker Mayfield sucking? Because
you could do that well. I would have bet that tonight.

Speaker 4 (18:10):
You could bet Baker Mayfield two passing touchdowns, which I
really needed. But the officials were intent on not when
that happened. I mean as sad as he was, like,
how are you not going to call that trip? So
now we're making up the rules as we go along.
What Big Brother is or isn't adjudicating? Like the Aughton
play gets double reversed. I've never seen that before in
my life. And then it's clear as day that that's

(18:33):
a trip. But Big Brother in New York, I mean what,
they're boozing it up. It's past bedtime. They got a
whole nother game. They need a butcher, Like what I mean,
make that makes sense? What now you know? Last Monday,
Jared Goff catches what everybody thinks a tough touchdown pass.
None of the officials, none of those bozos on the field,
of a problem with it. Right then they get told

(18:55):
you screw that up. Last night McCaffrey gets dragged six
yards in for it that should have been a ten
yard penalty. They don't need to look at that. But
then you see what does get called that's clearly not
coming from the field. I don't know, man, I think
they've opened up quite a Pandora's box here, and lord knows,

(19:15):
the freckless billionaires won't actually pay competent people to sit
in New York City and the replay death and the
dutyicate everything happening in all these games, because they have
to actually spend some resources on that. But it's it's,
it's it's it's pretty dubious what is now being decided

(19:37):
from Big Brother and what's not.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
We know, it's funny you say, you know people you
know who know what they're doing football wise in New
York City, and that clearly is not the case after
what we saw yesterday for both teams. What'd you take
away from the Giants collapse? You know, I mean, there's
there's so many things you can say. I mean, that's
but just the fact that you see the numbers, it's
insane polem. That's a Jets to do. And the Giants,

(20:01):
I mean.

Speaker 4 (20:02):
If not, nobody's gone I mean, what according to the broadcaster,
one six hundred and two instances of a team being
up by eighteen points or more than six minutes to
play the other one thousand, six hundred and two all
won the game. Like, I don't know, man, Like I
get that. You know, Dave All wants to you know,

(20:22):
he's going to go to ownership and say, I'm developing
the quarterback, But like quarterback was pretty well developed. I mean,
the quarterback is going to be a calling card for
any of the best and brightest minds to want that
Giants job. I don't know. I don't know why they
weren't running the ball. I don't know why they didn't
activate the quarterbacks legs when you know, you got two

(20:43):
cracks at five yards to pretty much win that game,
and they've got him throwing the ball in the middle
of the field. What was going on defensively and how
they allowed that collapse to happen and gave up thirty
three points in the quarter after giving him none and
forty five minutes. How they couldn't funnel more things to
the middle of the field, Like it's I mean, it's honestly,

(21:08):
statistically pretty much impossible, And that might be a tough
one for Dable to for them to shake off as
a young team, and for Dable to outlive because the
momentum you could have built up there having a signature
win like that coming off from that eagle thing, I
think you could have really done wonders for them. And now,

(21:32):
I don't know, man, there might be a bit of
a hangover from that one. But the quarterback looks better
than anybody could have stopped and maybe that rules today,
But I don't know, man, There's a lot of people
can coach quarterbacks. The head coach. You got to be
able to protect an eighteen point league with which should

(21:53):
have been a three possession game. Tops.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
Did the Giants then bring in McDaniel and Glenn as
their new coordinators?

Speaker 4 (22:02):
Yeah, you know, I don't know why McDaniels still has
a job. The everything I can think of is he
was Darren. You know he was Darren. Here's billionaire overlord
to fire him so he can go, you know, dress
up with his kids for Halloween and until the holidays
and be home. And I think the owner is like, now,

(22:23):
I'm not gonna I'm gonna make you make you play
this out, So I'm gonna make you wear this and
at some point they'll have to get around to an interim.
But I'm justin Ross didn't want to do that for
you know, over half the year. But it is kind
of dubious because they played twice in five days, like

(22:44):
they play Sunday and then they turn around and host
the Ravens. So the time to blow him out would
have probably been now. But obviously if it happened, it's
not going to be until. You wouldn't do it in
a short week, so it won't be until after that
Ravens game and you'll have you know, whatever your nine
aff that so and then yeah, Glenn, that was looking

(23:04):
like a want and gun man. Uh, it just is now.
I talked to some some gms, some former gms about it,
and the first six to eight games like they're not
going to tell the tail, but it can be kind
of telling. And this looks like an overwhelmed situation. It's

(23:27):
just it's just not professional grade. Uh, And you know
he's got half a season now to make it professional
grade or I am guessing what you will move on?

Speaker 1 (23:40):
I completely agree look for the for the longest time. Look,
I loved him in the preseason. But I said, Okay, well, obviously,
Mike McDaniel, that's a tire fire. That's just where it's not.
Ok that's just a question of when. But like Aaron glennam,
I'm saying, okay, so and here's and here's where you
can where you can say all right, it's too it's
too much for him, like he's in over his head.
He apologized after last week when the Jets didn't throw

(24:02):
a hail Mary for the final play of the first
half on fourth down. Look, I should have done that.
I'll do that last night, same thing yesterday, same thing.
End of the first half. Okay, could call a time
out with one second left, the Jets are at midfield. No,
let's get off the field, and he says, ah, I
wanted to get to the locker room. Didn't want to
have any bad plays.

Speaker 4 (24:17):
Man.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
I'm like, what's going on?

Speaker 4 (24:19):
Man?

Speaker 1 (24:20):
What's going on? This is clearly where the job is
too much for here. And some people are head coaches,
some people aren't. But wow, and if the Jets are
gonna finish with a you know, the worst record, they're
gonna pick a quarterback and you're not gonna trust Aaron
Glenn to come in and say okay with this offensive
system with justin fields and taking football back seventy years
by running the ball like he's not gonna be the

(24:41):
guy in charge of getting the team back next year
when you're taking Fernando Mendoza or Dante Moore number one overall.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
Yeah, I mean I would. And look this league when
you do look at the coaches that they are quick
to punt on, and who gets multiple years and who
gets one and done or who does a tremendous job

(25:12):
as an interim and then still doesn't get the job.
It's overwhelmingly African American coaches. It's just a fact that
can put the numbers on it. They have been historically
viewed by this league has more quickly disposable than their
white counterparts. And I think this can be heading in
that direction.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
Jason locking forward, guess here, Fox Sports Radio, Jason Smith,
Mike Harmon.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
All right, as we get should they finish the line
here in Week seven, big bye week with six teams
next week, who's the best team in the NFC?

Speaker 4 (25:45):
Oh boy, I mean, I don't know how good any
of these teams are truly. I mean, you want to
talking about recency I mean it might be Detroit. I

(26:06):
think it probably you know, is Detroit, Green Bay. I
can't quite figure them out. I thought they'd be great,
and maybe they still will be, but it's certainly been.
They play with their food, I mean everything, everything is
a struggle with them. I mean out of the West.

(26:28):
I think it's the Rams, and look, it might be
you know, it might be the Rams. And that was
a tough little wicket that they navigated here, having to
stay east for basically two weeks and play in London.
I think it's probably Detroit in the Rams.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
There was activity in mid October at Camden Yards though,
so that was good.

Speaker 4 (26:48):
Yes, Yes, we had Matt Stafford on the mound throwing
a football, so that was that was good. That was good.
All right. So you won't be seeing any Orioles pitchers
doing that anytime?

Speaker 1 (27:03):
No, no, no, no, probably not probably not no, probably,
but you could have Stafford start opening day? Why not?

Speaker 4 (27:10):
I'd be into it.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
Hey. So speaking of you know, Baltimore back from the
bye still o Lamar Jackson to practice? When do you
think we see him next?

Speaker 4 (27:21):
Well, better be Wednesday. I mean he doesn't practice Wednesday.
Then you got big proud I mean today was sort
of a glorified walk through kind of day, not like
a full blown practice. Remember they're coming off of bye,
so the normal, you know, real NFL work week is
Wednesday Thursday. It's certainly not ideal, though, I mean, you'd

(27:41):
think you'd want him out there for anything, you do,
considering the importance from this game at one in five,
and considering you are coming off of bye and yeah,
I mean they need him to be a miracle worker here,
and he has that ability, certainly, but he's working with
a less than full deck with what's around him right

(28:02):
now as an offensive line, what's around him right now
as an entire defensive game in sub part special teams,
and Lamar with a soft tissue issue as much as
he had to run. Remember he's actly Kentuck before he
even suffered this injury. Uh, you know that that could
be suboptimal.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
All right, as we're finishing the week, let's rewind it
back to Thursday night. Was it wasn't it fun watching
a couple of forty year olds slip all around?

Speaker 4 (28:32):
Pretty wild? Right? Yeah? I mean the flat thing really
is is bonkers. Like, you know, he looked pretty washed
in Cleveland and just ches to show you that you
get some you get some real talent around, you know,
and uh, you know you you get a chance to
sort of air it out there a little bit. I

(28:54):
don't know what's going on with pitts Perk's defense. That
defensive line looks horrible. I thought it would be the
strength and team and yeah, I mean, look, you got
to give Rogers flight Flocko a little extra come to operate.
But when you do, they can still they still cut
you cut you up. That was that was pretty wild.

(29:14):
And that division. I mean again, I don't know any
of the teams a particularly did, but somebody's got to
win it. And it's going to be interesting with all
the subplots there. I mean, the only team that Slato
hasn't played for in the division is Pittsburgh, and the
way Mike Tomlin was talking about that trade, I think
Mike Tomlin, you know, Mike Comin stays in Pittsburgh next
year and Aaron Rodgers retires till Clocko might be their

(29:36):
starting quarterback.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
He's on Twitter at Jason lock and for that's at
Jason Locking for all the latest on Wanna Bett is
there as well. Honesty one O five seven. The fan
in Baltimore, Washington Post Jay is always buddy, appreciate it, man.
We'll talk to you next week.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
Thanks guys.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
See you Jays would be good. Great stuff there from
Jason lock And for a meanwhile, the Seahawks maybe the
yin and yang of what it means to be a
Seattle sports fan. Jackson Smith the Jigma in the end
zone eleven yard touchdown catch from Sam Darnold. The Seahawks

(30:12):
lead fourteen to nothing over the Texans. I say this
because of what just happened in Major League Baseball and
special delivery. Steve de Sager has the latest on that
right now. Steve, I know I warned the entire city.
What you're gonna say to start things off?

Speaker 7 (30:33):
Oh my, George Springer has hit a three run homer
in the bottom of the seventh at Toronto, and the
Blue Jays have the lead in Game seven of the
American League Championship Series, four to three, Toronto, end of
seven on Fox TV. The Seattle Mariners as soon as
John Morosi tweeted out the Mariners are nine outs away

(30:55):
from the World Series.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
I've had none. Oh yeah, don't say it's his fault.

Speaker 7 (30:58):
Don't do that sure enough, the club that has never
made the World Series may still never have made the
World Series. Six outs to go till Toronto hosts Game
one of the World Series Friday Nights against the Dodgers.
Chris bass At, a starter, is coming on in relief.

(31:19):
Kevin Gosman, a starter, pitched the last inning, walked three
but did not allow a run. Shane Bieber was the
starter for tonight's Game seven for the home team. He
was pulled in the fourth inning to run seven hits allowed.
The Mariners did use their all star pitcher Brian wo
for two and a third in relief. He just returned
to the roster and pitched in relief. Recently, he'd been

(31:41):
out four weeks with pectoral inflammation. As soon as he
came out with two men, a board reliever Edward Bizardo,
who in the regular season was good, allowed the three
to one bomb to left center Springer, the hero so
far four to three Toronto in the top of the eight. Toronto,
the best team in the may comeback wins this year.

(32:02):
As for the NFL, yes two games tonight and at Seattle.
It is a lead for the Seahawks at the end
of one fourteen to nothing over the Houston Texans. Zach
Sharman had one yard touchdown run Sam Darnold, a TD
pass of eleven yards to Jackson Smith and Jigba one
first down in the first quarter for the Houston Texans.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
What good is that good? That's not good?

Speaker 7 (32:25):
Five yards five in the first and in other words,
they're doing their Tampa Bay Bucks impersonation. Detroit beat the
Bucks twenty four to nine. Detroit led fourteen three at
a half. At the time, the yardage advantage was two
seventy five to fifty eight, but there had been two
turnovers each, so it was still a game. Jamior Gibbs
put it away. Seventeen carries, one hundred and thirty six

(32:46):
yards for the Lions, two scores on the ground, plus
three receptions for eighty two yards. Tampa Bay wide receiver
Mike Evans just returned after his hamstring injury. He left
in the second quarter with a concussion and show injury.
There are two reports that it's a possible collarbone injury
that could take him out long term this season. Washington

(33:07):
says quarterback Jaden daniels hamstring injury is not significant, but
they don't know if he'll play next Monday at Kansas City.
Defensive end Brandon Graham will sign with Philadelphia tomorrow, coming
out of retirement. Jets defensive back Sauce Gardner is in
concussion protocol. Saints running back Hendry Miller is out for
the year with a torn acl Panthers quarterback Bryce Young

(33:29):
is out this week with a high ankle sprain. Police
say former Bucks running back Doug Martin died in custody
last weekend after a break in at a home in Oakland.
They were attempting to detain him. Martin's agent says tonight
the former running back battled mental health challenges.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
A reminder.

Speaker 7 (33:45):
The World Series starts Friday night on Fox TV. It
could be the Dodgers on the road in Canada. Top
of the eighth, one out four, three Blue Jays over Seattle.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve O. The Jason Smith
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baseball on the way again, the Blue Jays five outs

(34:18):
away from the World Series. But straight ahead, we got
the play of the day. And you know what, Mike
Harmon asked such a big question at Jason Locking for
a couple of minutes ago. We're gonna break that down
coming up next. The answer to this question will surprise you,
Jason and Mike Fox Meers.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific, Fox.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best friend
Mike Harmon. Toronto lead Seattle four to three, nobody out,
bottom of the eighth thing Blue Jay's three outs away
from the first World Series is nineteen ninety three. Meanwhile,
a fourteen nothing lead for the Seattle Seahawks you're giving

(35:07):
you get with Seattle seems like a much bigger deficit
for the Texan din it. We got some bigger stuff
coming up major in the NFL in a couple of minutes,
But first we have the Play of the day. The
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get to be the play of the night?

Speaker 8 (35:50):
Right? Up?

Speaker 2 (35:50):
That got there? Those kids foot race.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
Winfield can't get there?

Speaker 2 (35:57):
Tuxdown Lions.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
There was ESPN on the call the Lions beat the
Tampa Bay Bucks twenty four to nine and joining us
now on the hot line Lions linebacker Jack Campbell, Jack,
congrats on the wind man. How you doing so?

Speaker 8 (36:13):
Thank you sir. I'm doing fantastic. I'm ready to go
home and lay on the couch. Though. After that, what
was it like the nineteen play driver at the end
of the day.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
Yeah, it just kept going. But you guys standing up strong.

Speaker 8 (36:28):
You's gotta do what you gotta do.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
At what point during that drive where you're like, Okay,
I just want to get off the field. I just
want to get off the field.

Speaker 8 (36:36):
I mean, and I don't think that when I'm on
the field, But now, like looking back, I'm like, I
cannot wait to go home and.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
Just show out what does that do?

Speaker 8 (36:44):
When I'm on the field, I go, however many players
I gotta go.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
Yeah, but you know, you come off the field and
you look around, it's like, got off. Do you get
a drive of that length that comes away with zero points?
That's kinda feel.

Speaker 4 (36:55):
Yeah, that was a huge.

Speaker 8 (36:57):
Yeah, that was huge. I mean definitely when I came
off the side of into water, but yeah, that was
It's just a testament to all the guys on the
defense just playing for each other. Everyone's given everything they
had and I just couldn't be more proud and thankful
to be part of the line.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
So well, I'll tell you, Jack Baker Mayfield's been phenomenal
since he since he came into Tampa this year. He's
one of the top MVP candidates. He was terrible tonight.
What did you guys do to him tonight? There was
able to have such an effective night.

Speaker 8 (37:28):
I have a lot of respect for that player. He's
just so good and he can hring in so many
different ways. But I really feel like we just took
the element tried to making one dimensional. I'm trying to
make him throw in a tight windows and ultimately we
did that and I feel like we did that at
a high level and kind of led to the result.
But I've almost respect for him and their organization. They

(37:48):
do think is the right way, and it.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
Shows that's certainly how the outside world is looking at
you guys right now looking at that unit coming together,
a little bit of a step back against Kansas, but
right back against the top notch offense. What is it
about this this unit at this point coalescing uh, mid
mid point of the season.

Speaker 8 (38:09):
I feel like that's the thing about nowadays, just with
the media and everything, is we try to blow things
out of proportion. But at the same time, that's about life.
You're gonna have setbacks, adversity, things that no, obviously don't
go your way. Not everything is going to be perfect
all the time, but just how you respond. Do you
just continue to do the little things every single day,

(38:31):
chip away through the things that just take self discipline,
self control, and just it'll show. But you can't just
sit there and cry when things aren't going anyway. You
just got to work. And I feel like that's what
we what we do here, and we embody it and
I'm just going to continue to do it.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
So now you said in body, continue to do it.
The NFL put out a memo the other day about
punch outs and you know, punching out the ball and missing,
and you said, blanket, screw it. If I miss it,
I missed. They got pads on. Uh will you think
of that all tonight and anything going through after the
first game after.

Speaker 8 (39:04):
That memo came out, you know, I wasn't thinking about
it at all. I'm definitely like, you got to be
smart though out there. When a guy goes down, you
can't just like launch on him. So that's something that
I feel like I sometimes have to control myself doing
because I kind of I don't know, I tend to
do that a lot. But I'm not going to change
my play. But I just need to continue to remember

(39:26):
that and the guy's down, I'm gonna continue to punch
at the ball and if they hear the flag, they
say the flag. But I'm gonna be twinty about my punctions.
There's no ill intent. I'm just trying hard and I'm
just trying to see my job.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Jack.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
How about you an advantage does it give you going
up on Sundays after trying to tackle Jamiir Gibbs all week.

Speaker 8 (39:43):
Chase, Yeah, yeah, uh. I'll just say he's not the
easiest one to take the garden man, the man and
the tackle on the whole. So it makes u It
makes some days just a little bit easier.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
Jack Campbell lines line back, and thanks so much for
stopping by with us. Enjoy whether you get Buddy's pizza
delivered or not.

Speaker 3 (40:02):
You know, great, I don't know, appreciate you stop it by, Jack, Congratulations.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
I love how we just started. Hey, guys, I'm tired.
I can't wait to go get a nineteen point drive. Man, dude,
I'm really tired. Man as well. Let you know right away,
because that's the thing. They were on the field a lot.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
Yeah, you know, for a twenty four to nine game,
and you say, hey, they shut down, they moved the ball,
and then they they backed up, they boned up when
they needed to, and big plays downfield. Baker Mayfield struggling
all night and here in footsteps, I think the Bucks had.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
More plays tonight than Mayfield had passing yards. Think they
had over one hundred and fifty plays and Mayfield threw
for about one hundred year, didn't That's about where it was.
I mean, look, incredible night by the Lions and and look, honestly, yeah,
they've clearly traded up off of last year defend. Now, look,
they do have Aiden Hutchinson back who got hurt in
the middle last year, and that was a big the
end of last year, they were really a mass unit defensively.

(41:02):
So but you can just see there's something different about them,
the attitude wise they have this year. And we'll get
to a big, big topic with the Lions coming up
in a few minutes. Wanted to jump in. We had
Jack Campbell on the line to talk to him. But
I mean, you could tell that they just have something
a little bit different. Whether it's a prove it quality,
which can be a really good thing, and that hey,

(41:22):
our coordinators left for what they thought were going to
be brighter past years. They took it personal against against
Johnson when they really played against them, and now here
they are. The defenses playing this way almost was like
the challenge maybe the Lions needed to keep things fresh
a little bit.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
Get this, two hundred and fifty one total yards of offense,
sixty six plays, Wow.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
That's all sixty six plays, that's all that more than
that hundred and sixty. So that's why I went back
to check it. I'm like, no, it seemed like they
were on the field a lot more. Coming up next,
we'll tell you the two best teams in the NFL
are and they're not who you think. Fox
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